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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to this edition of Dateline Jerusalem. I'm joined by
dear friends and names that many of you would recognize,
Brock and Body Tenney, who have really have a treasury
of works that many of you may have read about Israel,
about America, about the prophetic times that we're living in.
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And I just want to thank you Brock and Body
for being such an encouragement in prayer and encouragement for
me and Liz throughout the years, particularly even before we
came here in to Israel. We met in London for
a couple of days and that was really a godsend
for Liz and I and our two daughters, Grace and Kathleen,
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who are with us. That was really a special time.
And here we are almost twenty five years later. Wow,
yeah you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Know, yeah, So thanks for joining.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
For those that may not know, tell us about the
treasury of works that you've done documentary and chronicling the
history of Israel and America.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Sure well, Body is the writer that created person I'm in,
the historian and the researcher. We began with a series
about forty years ago. Now a part as that is
to believe for us, the Zion Chronicles, which is the
story of the rebirth of Israel from nineteen forty seven
into the spring of nineteen forty eight. A very first
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book is called Gates of Zion and connected to that.
After that was finished, we knew so much about the
backstory of the characters who appeared in the Zion Chronicles,
what had gone on in Europe that made the rebirth
of Israel an absolute necessity after the Holocaust. Then we
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backed up in time and body wrote the Zion Covenant Books,
which is nine books beginning in the Nazi rise to
power in the nineteen thirties and going up to the
beginning guns literally of the Second World War. And then
we've been a number of other historical series since, including
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some set in the life and times of Jesus the
Messiah called the ad Chronicles. And most recently, and one
you're aware of already, is a set called the Elijah
Chronicles that we wrote with our dear friend, Pastor Ray Bentley,
who passed away very sadly recently a couple of years
ago now, But that was a five book series called
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the Elijah Chronicles that's in contemporary as well as historical
and prophetic Israel. So all of those together and some
other things lead up to about a total of eighty
historical novels altogether.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, I highly recommend well all of them, but in
particularly the Elijah Chronicles. I had an opportunity to read
all of those, and I know you finished I think
the last edition with Vicky Bentley, after Ray had gone
home to be with the Lloyd.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Correct Now, that book was only about halfway done when
he went to heaven, and so with Vicky we continued
working until we got it completed, and that was number five,
the last book in that series.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's a fascinating way of how you wove in scriptures,
prophecy as well as you know, a thriller, intriguing thriller
of the times that we're living in right now. How
did you feel about writing that body?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know, it was different than what we usually do.
But the thing that has blown my mind is how
the things are coming true. And you know, I'm still
we live in California full time, but I am expecting
a big shaking to come to this state. I mean,
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we've seen what's happened in the fires in the north
and the fires in the South, and you know, unless
people wake up, I think there's more to come. And
you know, so we based on what scientists say would
happen if we had a big one, you know, dams
breaking and and and the reservoirs and big lakes, you know, flooding.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The earthquake.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's what I'm talking about. It's it's I think it's
it's really possible. But something we think we feel is
probably coming to the state that will shut things down.
And and and you know, I'm hoping praying that things
will change now, that this that this is a kind
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of a final wake up call, the fires in the South,
and that people are going to come to the Lord.
And we see that everywhere, Chris, we see the Lord's
hand at work in the churches. That people are waking up.
And that's what we need. We need real revival in
this state and across America. And of course it's happening.
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It is happening, and God has given us a bit
of a reprieve, hasn't he. So believe anyway, that Final Witness,
which is the last book we wrote after Ray passed away,
that that book, I think is a is a kind
of a look into the future and based on scripture,
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things that could and it looks back here because it
looks at the origins of America. I think one of
my favorite scenes I can dip in here in Final
Witness is the scene of our main character visiting the
John Winthrop and the boat. Do you remember that scene.
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I don't know. It's it's very close to the end
and something that God gave us that we didn't know,
really did not know before we started writing this. And
of course Brock being the historian, he picked up on
this right away. But the original ship that brought the
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Don Winthrop over to America in sixteen thirty was named
the Eagle, and our main character sees it and he says, okay,
that is that's appropriate, and has a big eagle on
the you know, on the bow, and they took it
off and took it down before they loaded the passengers,
and they renamed it Arbella. Now, because you're in Israel,
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you know that Mount our Bell is where Jesus stood
and you could see everything and he gave the Great
commission to his to his followers from that mountain. And
I mean, there are other places they think it could
have been, but we really believe it is Mount our Bell.
And of course the the village of Arbella, which is
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in the valley below was uh stood firm but fell,
and it's in the book of Maccabee. So he renamed
the ship the Arbella. And most Americans do not know
that that. John Winthrop loaded his pilgrims ontomooth the uh
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the Arabella, went to the continent of America and gave
his you know, gave his talk to them about from
from Deuteronomy thirty about how important it was that they
follow the Lord. It's uh the scripture h that he
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that he preached to those folks was a scripture that
America was based on. Basically, they came for the sake
of the Great Commission. And did America fulfill that well
in a way? Yeah, but generation to generation that needs
to be true for us. And so interesting to me
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that one of the hostages that is so in the
center of everything is named Our Bell. Wow, you know
that's that's yeah in.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The news as we speak, as we speak, what's.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Your last name, it's yeah, yeah, which yeah, right, So
you have our Bell, which is the same name as
the ship that brought the Americans. And of course America
was the I mean the first Americans. America was the
first country to acknowledge and to help Israel. And we
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remain now, especially with our president, we remain a great
supporter of Israel. So all of those little dots connect
those dots, and you as we write, we are seeing
that many of the things that we wrote about are
really coming true. Chris, It's it's an astounding thing. I
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I'm excited about it that that Winthrop on the Rbell
preached Deuteronomy thirty, if you follow the Lord, choose this
day who you will serve. And you know, we need
to do that. We need to be the ones that
choose the Lord.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Here we are coming up on the four hundredth anniversary
of that voyage and that commissioning of opening a new
land based on the great commission to you know, fulfill
as part of America's responsibility to be that light to
the nation. And you know, it's as body said, it
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is a generational thing that every generation act reminded of
that responsibility and take up that particular burden to go forward.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And I believe the connection to Israel with America is
what keeps us going. I think we are suburbs. I
think America is a suburb from Israel and itsctly. So yeah, yeah,
therefore let us choose life and that we and our
seed may live by obeying his voice and cleaving to him,
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for he is our life and our prosperity. And that's
John Winthrop in sixteen thirty on the r Bell. So,
you know, as we pray for the hostages. I don't
know what exactly the spiritual connection is to her name
and all of this, but I think it's all somehow
tied together, you know. Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, so you see such a deep connection between Israel
and the United States. And when I guess a lot
of people look to Genesis twelve, those are bless, Israel
will be last, those will be cursed. And I think
we've seen that chronicle throughout the history of America brought you.
You teach history now American history, probably unlike maybe what
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some people get in public school, but talk about the
historical connection that you teach and that you've researched. Well.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I am always maintain American exceptionalism, that this nation is
founded on principles like nowhere else in the world, no
other nation was ever created. It doesn't mean we got
everything right. It doesn't mean that we didn't have our
own struggles to live up to the founding principles, and
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yet there has been steady forward progress in creating a
land of equal opportunity for all, And as everything that
moves that needle forward to being blessed in the way
that we relate to the rest of the world, In
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the strength of our leaders, and the strength of our character,
and the strength with which we hold fast to constitutional principles.
Those are all things that not just bless America, but
bless the whole world. And the same is true in reverse. Historically,
you can see backing up from those allowing for instance
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of time period that we were very familiar with where
Hitler was allowed to flourish because nobody wanted to get
involved and nobody wanted to call him out, and nobody
wanted to commit until it was could not be prevented
from being a major conflagration that it did literally involve
the entire world, you know, And we see that sort
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of thing manifest now where people say, oh, no, let's
not pursue that, let's not get involved in that, let's
back up from that challenge, and that never works out well.
As an author that I know once said, apathy is
that the glove into which evil thrusts its hand.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh wow, what afraid it did? Yeah, you know, and
I think after October seventh, we just saw an explosion
of anti Semitism around the world that seemed.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
To be late to mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, you know, I never thought see it again when
we were writing the Zion Chronicles and Zech Covenants and
you know, putting forth the true history of what happened.
I mean, how did they get there? How did this
come to pass? And you know, I mean there's a
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whole lot in those books. We have heard from various
people that they read them and use them to teach,
you know, teach history, teach the history of Israel. It's
and that is our goal, is that people will find
these books again, that people will share them with other people,
and so everybody will know the history.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But it's mind boggling to think that, say, ten years ago,
an outburst burst of anti Semitism in the Unit, say,
it is just unthinkable. You can't even imagine that happening.
And it to see it in the last couple of
years be so widespread and so intense and so ignorant.
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It is just without any regard to the true history.
Of the region and anything connected with.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Israel and Palestine, and the latest history of October seventh.
When you look at that, that is, you know, you
can go back and look through not just this history
and the history of Israel now today and its re establishment,
which is a phenomenal miracle, but the fact that you know,
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the Islamic armies attempted to come into Europe in Vienna
in sixteen eighty three, and we're turned back by a
coalition like NATO, okay, who all came together and fought
them and pushed them back from Vienna. And now we
have Europe, we have America. Everybody has opened their doors
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to a profound cultural evil. I mean, it is something
that is you know, Sharia law, all of the different
things that are intrinsic in these beliefs are so anti Christ.
And our forefathers of course said nope, not coming in
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to you know, in Europe in sixteen eighty three. So
it's the Satan is really patient, and you know, it's
like the the Battle of Vienna happened on September eleventh, Okay,
and then we have you know, however many years later,
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from how many years is that it's a long time
to our own nine to eleven what happened there, and
so dates are significant and.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
In their way of thinking, very significant, Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Very yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So when we know those things and we look at
them and we look at the brutality that took place
in a place like Khartum, which was you know, in
the late eighteen hundreds, Khartoum was in the Sedan, was
surrounded by the Mahdi and his armies and overtaken and
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thirty thousand people were slaughtered and I mean slaughtered like
October seventh. So it's you know, when you know the history,
you begin to sit back and go, is this ever
going to change? And no, probably not. It's going to
take Jesus Christ and knowing him to change people to
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come to know that we can be brothers and sisters.
That's the way we're brothers and sisters is through the
salvation of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right. You know, I've heard changing stories about how far
along Islam has taken over parts of Europe. Apparently in
some places like Paris, no go zones. Thankfully. Perhaps the
election is a bit of a wake up call to
the United States and a change of what the direction
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we may be going. I wanted to say that you.
I hope too. As you mentioned that people can rediscover
Design Chronicles and the Zion Covenant for a new generation.
When actually do your first those come out?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Nineteen eighty five was the release of Agi.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, and just would do you know about two a
year probably? Yeah. The folks that they the folks that
lived through it all were alive, and so we interviewed them.
We knew them, and you know it was I mean,
we knew the guy who you know, who was the
pilot who flew over the Arab armies and dropped Seltzer
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bottles to make that well there was Lou and yeah,
and you know, I mean we interviewed the real deal.
So when you read those books, Zion Chronicles and Zion
coming of you, you're getting the real thing.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, well they should be rediscovered. Tell us what
you're working on right now.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, what we were just talking about is a perfect
lead into that question. About twenty years ago now, we
started a nonprofit organization called the Shiloh Light Foundation, and
we used it to distribute books and bibles and other
inspirational literature to disaster areas like Hurricane Katrina. Send them
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to prisons and to hospitals and to reach retirement homes
and so on, and so it has filled that role
very well over the years. But just recently we have
been really challenged to think about the fact that there
is a whole generation, maybe even two generations now, that
don't know the accurate history of the Middle East, don't
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know about the necessity of their being in Israel, don't
know what had to happen for that to be true,
and all the you had to say it's a miracle,
because it took millions of miracles day today for Israel
to survive and exist from nineteen forty eight to present day.
And we still see that now. They're still surrounded by
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very hostile forces who want nothing better than to see
Israel wiped off the face of the earth. That attitude
has not changed, and to get people then to re
examine that. It has always been our goal for the
novels that Body rights to be historic accurate in every way,
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shape or form. These are not, you know, romance novels
that are set in a time period and have a
kind of a passing connection to an era. They are
seriously written based on interviews and historical research, to be
read as accurate history. And so the new goal of
the Child Lake Foundation is to get those into the
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hands of college students and high school students, connecting with
other organizations that have entree into that audience, and as
you already said, to cause a new set of readers
to discover them and to use that to combat the
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brampant anti Semitism that's been foisted on university campuses and students,
you know, all over the US. One of the ways
to combat that is to give people facts to fight
back with, and the Chronicles and the Covenant are really
designed to do that. So we have have some ministry partners, UH,
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Mission Navigators Foundation is helping us to get those relaunched
into all those different categories you talked about and UH
and then us to do some traveling, to do some
speaking at different locations. VOD He's a member of the
She Leads organization, which is now international, not as She
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Leads America, but beyond that, and has spoken carried this
same message into the United Kingdom UH and into Washington,
d C. And has some other venues like that in
her future. So we want to be very open and
to talk about the necessity of another generation learning the
accurate history of Israel and its relation to America.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yep, it's all. It's all biblical, it's all you know,
it's all intrinsic in the in the scriptures, and as
we I mean, I think we're a lot closer than
we thought. And for the you know, for the rapture,
I believe in it. And I go to bed at
night thinking, wow, am I going to wake up and
you know, in the middle of the space or something.
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I mean, I don't know. It's just it's a really
exciting time, as scary as it is. And I know,
I do think that America has a reprieve here that
we have that we have a little time to do.
All the church in America has a little time to
do what we need to do to get that great
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commission out to share the word of God.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, you know, long after the fact, we looking back
at forty years of historical novels, we realize that they
are all about reconciliation. Whether it's Jews and Christians, or
Catholics and Protestants, or blacks and whites. That's the overriding
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theme of every single series. Because that's one of Satan's
great lives is to create division between people of different
colors or different religious different races, whereas in reality, the
only distinction that makes any eternal difference is are you
say it or not?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's right, Yeah, exactly, And you know I would I
would say after October seventh, in particular, that the Shiloh
Light foundation that you're doing to re introduce these Desion
chronicles in the Zion Covenant is because I think a
lot of people instinctively rebel against some of the anti Semitism,
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but they don't have maybe the facts that they need
to know why Israel exists, why it exists biblically, why
historically it has a right to the land and has
a right to be back, and it is. It is
a miracle, but as you said, it takes millions of miracles.
It's also you know, based in fact and biblical prophecy.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah it is. And John Wayne, who I worked for,
you know that. But yeah, I don't know who does
know it. You used to tell me you can tell
people what they need to know if you put it
in a good story. Yes, I you know, I learned
to write, you know, at there in the in the
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offices of that Jack, I learned how to tell a
good story. And that was the word that I've walked
away with. I need to tell it or show it
in a good story, not just tell it historically, but
to show it in a good story and relate what
these people went through. Now you know the Uh, there's
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a saying for all of us writers that the blood
of the martyr is the ank of the scribe. And
you know that one it's we are you know, we
are now watching the martyrs as they fight against or founding. Yeah,
you be martyred in a whole lot of ways. You
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can go to you know, prison for standing outside of
an abortion clinic and pray. I mean, that's that's martyred.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, And so.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
It's there, and it is there for all of us
as Christians. We need to be that have that kind
of courage. And you know, all Brock and I are
doing is telling the truth with using the blood of
the martyrs to share that with you.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's interesting that you say that because while we're recording this,
the next day, I'll be heading to Egypt and I'll
be doing a story on a new film called The
twenty one. The Yes, the twenty one Martyrs Christian Coptic
men killed by icens on a beach in Libya, and
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we're going to that to premiere that it'll be premiered.
We'll be reporting on it as well as meeting some
of the women they the widows. Yes, those men, I
understand that they have such a vibrant faith in light
of all they've lost and yet and speaking of miracles,
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I've been told that they kind of live LIFs of miracles,
lives of miracles. But these are men who really sacrifice
the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of the gospel.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yes, yeah, yeah, And that's that's an exciting thing and
something that we need, you know, we need more believers
to share and to tell just you know, talk story.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Jesus talked to he did, he spoken parables, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
He gives the ultimate storyteller, and he and he would
tell stories about people. You know, it wasn't some esoteric
thing way out there. It was it was what people
lived and what they understood. And you know that the
thing that's so exciting is to see that as a
as a writer, that God has given us all the
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gift of telling stories. That's why we need eternity, Chris.
We're gonna have to everybody's story. You know, it's yeah,
we're gonna we're gonna sit around a campfire and this
one's gonna tell and this one. So you know, that's
what we're about. That's what we're about, telling the true stories,
the real stories, and showing people how what it was
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like and letting them then step into the picture and
step into the story. And we've we're doing it with
you know, homeschooling and you know, in a zillion different ways.
So it's it's an exciting thing to be part of.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Our good friend Ray Bentley, who's gone on to be
with the Lord, used to say step into the story.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Right, Yeah, yeah, that was his that was his uh,
his motto is step into the story. Oh what a
what a celebration in heaven, you know, I mean, ge
was really And the a neat thing about the the
Elijah Chronicles is that every cent of that, I mean,
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we were paid to write and that was it. You know,
there's no we don't get royalties, but we were paid
to write and the every penny of that goes to
Ministry for Israel. So that's a neat thing. You know,
we we did it and h and so when people
go on Amazon and they buy the Elijah Chronicles, which
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is bragmantly body tainey and should have had Brock on
it too, because all the research can get anyway. It's
you know, that's that's a that's a place that's it's
a little bit different. You know. We we did present
day stuff, but those are those are books that have
gems of a biblical connection and historical and prophetic connection.
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And like I said, the most exciting thing for me
what's in we found this? God gave this to I
guess Ray was gone but the arbell And I'm going
to be fascinating when I get the Harem and say
to the Lord what was the connection between mott Arbel
and this beautiful young woman who is in all compstage?
What is that about you? Hear? Yes, it must it
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must be somehow connected.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, How would you encourage people right now to step
into the story, as Ray would say, and be part
of what's going on God's prophetic plan wherever they are.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, I'm going to let Brock feit of that. I've
got a thousand things that I could say.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Okay, I will to those who have already read, let's
suspect a title. If you've read Gates of Zion and
it's sitting on your shelf and you don't expect to
read it again. Then pass it along, give it to somebody,
give it to a child or a grandchild, or a
church library. Put it out there where somebody else will
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see it. And obviously, if you haven't read the books yet,
then you didn't check out your church library see if
they already have Gates of Zion or buy one, go
online and pick up a copy. It is a absolutely
perfect place to get your head around what's going on
in the world, in the Middle East and why it's
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so important.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, we've had politicians say to us reading your books
influenced my ideas about Israel, and you know I'm thinking
about that right now. I mean, Michelle Blachman is one
of them who said, I read your books Design Covenant
series while I was pregnant, and she named her youngest daughter,
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so she was pregnant with at that time, she named
her Elisa, after the main character design Covenant series. Isn't
that funny? Oh? Yeah, Michelle is a great friend of
mine and in yours as well. But yeah, pass them
on to people, pass them on, and if you're a
homeschooling parent, get your kids. And I'm talking you know, Junior,
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I can read these. We kept them clean, guys. We
we just there's no reason to go into foul language
or or explicit sex or any of the things that
are in modern books now. And so we we have
kept all of our books very very readable for the family.
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So they're available autographed, uh and you know, well priced
at teenybooks dot com. Or you can find them on Kindle,
all of them, almost all of them on Kindle, so uh,
they're they're there and uh tiny books dot Com. And
and we autograph them and package them. Then I've gotta
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they've got a whole box this sign right now, Yeah,
to go to go sign after we're done here. But yeah,
just pass them along to give them to your kids,
let them read, and they will find the truth of history.
They'll find the truth in history.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, if you want to give them a little insulation
before they go into the fires at university or public school, yes, exactly,
a good place to start. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And speaking about Michelle Buckman, she's overseeing the Israel Institute
there at Regent University, yeah, School of Government and then
doing a great job there. And I can also as
you say, this. I have a granddaughter in mine that
I think would love to read The Gates of Zion
and uh and maybe the whole series. How about Shiloh
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Shiloh Light. How do people find out about that?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
The Shiloh Light donation is uh, it's it's in process
right now.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Okay, you know, we'll be Shiloh Light dot org when
the website is all of it.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
And meanwhile Taty books dot com is probably to start. Yeah. Yeah,
we named it after a series that we wrote, which
is my family uh in Arkansas during the Depression, which
is my favorite books. Yeah, the Shiloh Legacy books and
my favorite favorite and they they are also books of
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reconciliation between blacks and whites in the South. Yeah, and
French brought them together.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So yeah, any any final thoughts about what you want
to share, what's on your art?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We as long as we bless Israel and pray for
Israel and ask God to give wisdom to the to
the leaders that we have. Now we're going to make
it through, guys. We will. It's it's now down to
a laser pinpoint of every single person matters, and that's
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what the scripture teaches us it's not some universal, big
you know thing that you know, all Christians are all denominations,
which we know many of them are not really Christian.
But your relationship with Jesus Christ is what matters. And
so if I could say anything to anybody, it is
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get your heart right with God. And the way you
do that is you you just bow your head and
you pray. Lord Jesus, I need you, thank you for
forgiving my sins and cleansing me of my sins and
dying for reasons. And you are resurrected, and I know that,
knowing you, I will also be raised to life from death.
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And that start there, start there. And I don't care
if you if you have blown it in the worst way.
When I would say to everybody is look, get your
heart right with God because we're out of time. That's
what I would say.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Brought any final thoughts, I don't think I can improve
on that.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It sounds exactly right.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Well, would you both like to lead us in prayer?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Then?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
B P First, Lord, who want to thank you for
this opportunity to share to talk about how you have
blessed us in our relationship with Chris over these many
years and getting the word out about the reality of
history and the significance of Israel, and the importance of
continuing to support and pray for Israel as that real
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beacon of light in the world that so many forces
are trying to snuff out. Lord, we pray against the
evil forces against Israel and in America that we have seen,
as we have said, going back to the time of
the Holocaust and the horrific events that happened, then we
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see same demons, different bodies, and they're still here and
they have never given up on their goal of eliminating
Israel and the Jewish people and the prophecies that are
all connected with Israel and the Jews. Lord, we just
pray against those and we want everybody to be awake
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through the dangerous times and the prophetic times in which
we live, so open their minds and hearts to see
the reality in every way.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Thank you, Lord, Thank you Lord, for Chris and for
his incredible ministry in Israel, and for his family and
the sacrifices that they have made for you and for Israel,
and for the Kingdom. Lord, for your kingdom. I pray
God that you blest the folks of CBN Michelle and
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the Israel Institute and all things Lord that you are
doing to wake people up, help our work, only to
give you the work where we asked this in the
name of yesh Amen Amen.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Father. I also pray for brock and Body, and pray
that a new generation would rediscover the Zion Chronicles, the
Zion Covenant, Elijah Chronicles, the ad Chronicles, all the works
that they've done throughout the years. I pray, Father for
the Shiloh, a light foundation that you would use at
as well, just to spread spread this word about Israel,
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about America, about prophecy, and about your return. And I
also want to pray for anybody that's listening to that
heart was moved by what body shared. If you'd like
to receive Jesus into your heart, you can just say
that simple prayer that she mentioned. Father. I am a
sinner and I know you sent Jesus to save my
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save me from UH fraternity. So I invite you Jesus
into my heart as my Lord and savior and help
me live my life for you in Jesus' name. You
know there's a website you can go to a CBN
dot com. UH people there will pray with you and
and encourage you if that's what you've done in the
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last in the last few moments in Jesus name, well,
a delight to be to be with you, brock and
body and all.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, we're with all of you, guys and men. Just
ask you know P. Ninety one, the Angel, the Angel
of the Lord doing camp around you and keep you safe,
and keep Israel safe. And and we're praying for the
for the return of the hostages. We're praying for Israel
and and for America. I love this country. I love
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this country and what we stand for. So anyway, as
a suburb of Israel, we're praying also for America.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Amen, God bless thank you, thank you.
Welcome to this edition of Dateline Jerusalem. I'm joined by
dear friends and names that many of you would recognize,
Brock and Body Tenney, who have really have a treasury
of works that many of you may have read about Israel,
about America, about the prophetic times that we're living in.
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And I just want to thank you Brock and Body
for being such an encouragement in prayer and encouragement for
me and Liz throughout the years, particularly even before we
came here in to Israel. We met in London for
a couple of days and that was really a godsend
for Liz and I and our two daughters, Grace and Kathleen,
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who are with us. That was really a special time.
And here we are almost twenty five years later. Wow,
yeah you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Know, yeah, So thanks for joining.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
For those that may not know, tell us about the
treasury of works that you've done documentary and chronicling the
history of Israel and America.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Sure well, Body is the writer that created person I'm in,
the historian and the researcher. We began with a series
about forty years ago. Now a part as that is
to believe for us, the Zion Chronicles, which is the
story of the rebirth of Israel from nineteen forty seven
into the spring of nineteen forty eight. A very first
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book is called Gates of Zion and connected to that.
After that was finished, we knew so much about the
backstory of the characters who appeared in the Zion Chronicles,
what had gone on in Europe that made the rebirth
of Israel an absolute necessity after the Holocaust. Then we
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backed up in time and body wrote the Zion Covenant Books,
which is nine books beginning in the Nazi rise to
power in the nineteen thirties and going up to the
beginning guns literally of the Second World War. And then
we've been a number of other historical series since, including
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some set in the life and times of Jesus the
Messiah called the ad Chronicles. And most recently, and one
you're aware of already, is a set called the Elijah
Chronicles that we wrote with our dear friend, Pastor Ray Bentley,
who passed away very sadly recently a couple of years
ago now, But that was a five book series called
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the Elijah Chronicles that's in contemporary as well as historical
and prophetic Israel. So all of those together and some
other things lead up to about a total of eighty
historical novels altogether.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, I highly recommend well all of them, but in
particularly the Elijah Chronicles. I had an opportunity to read
all of those, and I know you finished I think
the last edition with Vicky Bentley, after Ray had gone
home to be with the Lloyd.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Correct Now, that book was only about halfway done when
he went to heaven, and so with Vicky we continued
working until we got it completed, and that was number five,
the last book in that series.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It's a fascinating way of how you wove in scriptures,
prophecy as well as you know, a thriller, intriguing thriller
of the times that we're living in right now. How
did you feel about writing that body?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know, it was different than what we usually do.
But the thing that has blown my mind is how
the things are coming true. And you know, I'm still
we live in California full time, but I am expecting
a big shaking to come to this state. I mean,
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we've seen what's happened in the fires in the north
and the fires in the South, and you know, unless
people wake up, I think there's more to come. And
you know, so we based on what scientists say would
happen if we had a big one, you know, dams
breaking and and and the reservoirs and big lakes, you know, flooding.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The earthquake.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's what I'm talking about. It's it's I think it's
it's really possible. But something we think we feel is
probably coming to the state that will shut things down.
And and and you know, I'm hoping praying that things
will change now, that this that this is a kind
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of a final wake up call, the fires in the South,
and that people are going to come to the Lord.
And we see that everywhere, Chris, we see the Lord's
hand at work in the churches. That people are waking up.
And that's what we need. We need real revival in
this state and across America. And of course it's happening.
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It is happening, and God has given us a bit
of a reprieve, hasn't he. So believe anyway, that Final Witness,
which is the last book we wrote after Ray passed away,
that that book, I think is a is a kind
of a look into the future and based on scripture,
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things that could and it looks back here because it
looks at the origins of America. I think one of
my favorite scenes I can dip in here in Final
Witness is the scene of our main character visiting the
John Winthrop and the boat. Do you remember that scene.
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I don't know. It's it's very close to the end
and something that God gave us that we didn't know,
really did not know before we started writing this. And
of course Brock being the historian, he picked up on
this right away. But the original ship that brought the
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Don Winthrop over to America in sixteen thirty was named
the Eagle, and our main character sees it and he says, okay,
that is that's appropriate, and has a big eagle on
the you know, on the bow, and they took it
off and took it down before they loaded the passengers,
and they renamed it Arbella. Now, because you're in Israel,
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you know that Mount our Bell is where Jesus stood
and you could see everything and he gave the Great
commission to his to his followers from that mountain. And
I mean, there are other places they think it could
have been, but we really believe it is Mount our Bell.
And of course the the village of Arbella, which is
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in the valley below was uh stood firm but fell,
and it's in the book of Maccabee. So he renamed
the ship the Arbella. And most Americans do not know
that that. John Winthrop loaded his pilgrims ontomooth the uh
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the Arabella, went to the continent of America and gave
his you know, gave his talk to them about from
from Deuteronomy thirty about how important it was that they
follow the Lord. It's uh the scripture h that he
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that he preached to those folks was a scripture that
America was based on. Basically, they came for the sake
of the Great Commission. And did America fulfill that well
in a way? Yeah, but generation to generation that needs
to be true for us. And so interesting to me
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that one of the hostages that is so in the
center of everything is named Our Bell. Wow, you know
that's that's yeah in.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The news as we speak, as we speak, what's.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Your last name, it's yeah, yeah, which yeah, right, So
you have our Bell, which is the same name as
the ship that brought the Americans. And of course America
was the I mean the first Americans. America was the
first country to acknowledge and to help Israel. And we
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remain now, especially with our president, we remain a great
supporter of Israel. So all of those little dots connect
those dots, and you as we write, we are seeing
that many of the things that we wrote about are
really coming true. Chris, It's it's an astounding thing. I
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I'm excited about it that that Winthrop on the Rbell
preached Deuteronomy thirty, if you follow the Lord, choose this
day who you will serve. And you know, we need
to do that. We need to be the ones that
choose the Lord.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Here we are coming up on the four hundredth anniversary
of that voyage and that commissioning of opening a new
land based on the great commission to you know, fulfill
as part of America's responsibility to be that light to
the nation. And you know, it's as body said, it
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is a generational thing that every generation act reminded of
that responsibility and take up that particular burden to go forward.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And I believe the connection to Israel with America is
what keeps us going. I think we are suburbs. I
think America is a suburb from Israel and itsctly. So yeah, yeah,
therefore let us choose life and that we and our
seed may live by obeying his voice and cleaving to him,
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for he is our life and our prosperity. And that's
John Winthrop in sixteen thirty on the r Bell. So,
you know, as we pray for the hostages. I don't
know what exactly the spiritual connection is to her name
and all of this, but I think it's all somehow
tied together, you know. Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, so you see such a deep connection between Israel
and the United States. And when I guess a lot
of people look to Genesis twelve, those are bless, Israel
will be last, those will be cursed. And I think
we've seen that chronicle throughout the history of America brought you.
You teach history now American history, probably unlike maybe what
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some people get in public school, but talk about the
historical connection that you teach and that you've researched. Well.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I am always maintain American exceptionalism, that this nation is
founded on principles like nowhere else in the world, no
other nation was ever created. It doesn't mean we got
everything right. It doesn't mean that we didn't have our
own struggles to live up to the founding principles, and
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yet there has been steady forward progress in creating a
land of equal opportunity for all, And as everything that
moves that needle forward to being blessed in the way
that we relate to the rest of the world, In
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the strength of our leaders, and the strength of our character,
and the strength with which we hold fast to constitutional principles.
Those are all things that not just bless America, but
bless the whole world. And the same is true in reverse. Historically,
you can see backing up from those allowing for instance
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of time period that we were very familiar with where
Hitler was allowed to flourish because nobody wanted to get
involved and nobody wanted to call him out, and nobody
wanted to commit until it was could not be prevented
from being a major conflagration that it did literally involve
the entire world, you know, And we see that sort
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of thing manifest now where people say, oh, no, let's
not pursue that, let's not get involved in that, let's
back up from that challenge, and that never works out well.
As an author that I know once said, apathy is
that the glove into which evil thrusts its hand.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh wow, what afraid it did? Yeah, you know, and
I think after October seventh, we just saw an explosion
of anti Semitism around the world that seemed.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
To be late to mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, you know, I never thought see it again when
we were writing the Zion Chronicles and Zech Covenants and
you know, putting forth the true history of what happened.
I mean, how did they get there? How did this
come to pass? And you know, I mean there's a
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whole lot in those books. We have heard from various
people that they read them and use them to teach,
you know, teach history, teach the history of Israel. It's
and that is our goal, is that people will find
these books again, that people will share them with other people,
and so everybody will know the history.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But it's mind boggling to think that, say, ten years ago,
an outburst burst of anti Semitism in the Unit, say,
it is just unthinkable. You can't even imagine that happening.
And it to see it in the last couple of
years be so widespread and so intense and so ignorant.
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It is just without any regard to the true history.
Of the region and anything connected with.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Israel and Palestine, and the latest history of October seventh.
When you look at that, that is, you know, you
can go back and look through not just this history
and the history of Israel now today and its re establishment,
which is a phenomenal miracle, but the fact that you know,
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the Islamic armies attempted to come into Europe in Vienna
in sixteen eighty three, and we're turned back by a
coalition like NATO, okay, who all came together and fought
them and pushed them back from Vienna. And now we
have Europe, we have America. Everybody has opened their doors
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to a profound cultural evil. I mean, it is something
that is you know, Sharia law, all of the different
things that are intrinsic in these beliefs are so anti Christ.
And our forefathers of course said nope, not coming in
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to you know, in Europe in sixteen eighty three. So
it's the Satan is really patient, and you know, it's
like the the Battle of Vienna happened on September eleventh, Okay,
and then we have you know, however many years later,
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from how many years is that it's a long time
to our own nine to eleven what happened there, and
so dates are significant and.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
In their way of thinking, very significant, Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Very yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So when we know those things and we look at
them and we look at the brutality that took place
in a place like Khartum, which was you know, in
the late eighteen hundreds, Khartoum was in the Sedan, was
surrounded by the Mahdi and his armies and overtaken and
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thirty thousand people were slaughtered and I mean slaughtered like
October seventh. So it's you know, when you know the history,
you begin to sit back and go, is this ever
going to change? And no, probably not. It's going to
take Jesus Christ and knowing him to change people to
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come to know that we can be brothers and sisters.
That's the way we're brothers and sisters is through the
salvation of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right. You know, I've heard changing stories about how far
along Islam has taken over parts of Europe. Apparently in
some places like Paris, no go zones. Thankfully. Perhaps the
election is a bit of a wake up call to
the United States and a change of what the direction
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we may be going. I wanted to say that you.
I hope too. As you mentioned that people can rediscover
Design Chronicles and the Zion Covenant for a new generation.
When actually do your first those come out?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Nineteen eighty five was the release of Agi.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, and just would do you know about two a
year probably? Yeah. The folks that they the folks that
lived through it all were alive, and so we interviewed them.
We knew them, and you know it was I mean,
we knew the guy who you know, who was the
pilot who flew over the Arab armies and dropped Seltzer
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bottles to make that well there was Lou and yeah,
and you know, I mean we interviewed the real deal.
So when you read those books, Zion Chronicles and Zion
coming of you, you're getting the real thing.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, well they should be rediscovered. Tell us what
you're working on right now.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, what we were just talking about is a perfect
lead into that question. About twenty years ago now, we
started a nonprofit organization called the Shiloh Light Foundation, and
we used it to distribute books and bibles and other
inspirational literature to disaster areas like Hurricane Katrina. Send them
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to prisons and to hospitals and to reach retirement homes
and so on, and so it has filled that role
very well over the years. But just recently we have
been really challenged to think about the fact that there
is a whole generation, maybe even two generations now, that
don't know the accurate history of the Middle East, don't
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know about the necessity of their being in Israel, don't
know what had to happen for that to be true,
and all the you had to say it's a miracle,
because it took millions of miracles day today for Israel
to survive and exist from nineteen forty eight to present day.
And we still see that now. They're still surrounded by
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very hostile forces who want nothing better than to see
Israel wiped off the face of the earth. That attitude
has not changed, and to get people then to re
examine that. It has always been our goal for the
novels that Body rights to be historic accurate in every way,
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shape or form. These are not, you know, romance novels
that are set in a time period and have a
kind of a passing connection to an era. They are
seriously written based on interviews and historical research, to be
read as accurate history. And so the new goal of
the Child Lake Foundation is to get those into the
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hands of college students and high school students, connecting with
other organizations that have entree into that audience, and as
you already said, to cause a new set of readers
to discover them and to use that to combat the
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brampant anti Semitism that's been foisted on university campuses and students,
you know, all over the US. One of the ways
to combat that is to give people facts to fight
back with, and the Chronicles and the Covenant are really
designed to do that. So we have have some ministry partners, UH,
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Mission Navigators Foundation is helping us to get those relaunched
into all those different categories you talked about and UH
and then us to do some traveling, to do some
speaking at different locations. VOD He's a member of the
She Leads organization, which is now international, not as She
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Leads America, but beyond that, and has spoken carried this
same message into the United Kingdom UH and into Washington,
d C. And has some other venues like that in
her future. So we want to be very open and
to talk about the necessity of another generation learning the
accurate history of Israel and its relation to America.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yep, it's all. It's all biblical, it's all you know,
it's all intrinsic in the in the scriptures, and as
we I mean, I think we're a lot closer than
we thought. And for the you know, for the rapture,
I believe in it. And I go to bed at
night thinking, wow, am I going to wake up and
you know, in the middle of the space or something.
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I mean, I don't know. It's just it's a really
exciting time, as scary as it is. And I know,
I do think that America has a reprieve here that
we have that we have a little time to do.
All the church in America has a little time to
do what we need to do to get that great
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commission out to share the word of God.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, you know, long after the fact, we looking back
at forty years of historical novels, we realize that they
are all about reconciliation. Whether it's Jews and Christians, or
Catholics and Protestants, or blacks and whites. That's the overriding
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theme of every single series. Because that's one of Satan's
great lives is to create division between people of different
colors or different religious different races, whereas in reality, the
only distinction that makes any eternal difference is are you
say it or not?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's right, Yeah, exactly, And you know I would I
would say after October seventh, in particular, that the Shiloh
Light foundation that you're doing to re introduce these Desion
chronicles in the Zion Covenant is because I think a
lot of people instinctively rebel against some of the anti Semitism,
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but they don't have maybe the facts that they need
to know why Israel exists, why it exists biblically, why
historically it has a right to the land and has
a right to be back, and it is. It is
a miracle, but as you said, it takes millions of miracles.
It's also you know, based in fact and biblical prophecy.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah it is. And John Wayne, who I worked for,
you know that. But yeah, I don't know who does
know it. You used to tell me you can tell
people what they need to know if you put it
in a good story. Yes, I you know, I learned
to write, you know, at there in the in the
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offices of that Jack, I learned how to tell a
good story. And that was the word that I've walked
away with. I need to tell it or show it
in a good story, not just tell it historically, but
to show it in a good story and relate what
these people went through. Now you know the Uh, there's
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a saying for all of us writers that the blood
of the martyr is the ank of the scribe. And
you know that one it's we are you know, we
are now watching the martyrs as they fight against or founding. Yeah,
you be martyred in a whole lot of ways. You
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can go to you know, prison for standing outside of
an abortion clinic and pray. I mean, that's that's martyred.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, And so.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
It's there, and it is there for all of us
as Christians. We need to be that have that kind
of courage. And you know, all Brock and I are
doing is telling the truth with using the blood of
the martyrs to share that with you.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's interesting that you say that because while we're recording this,
the next day, I'll be heading to Egypt and I'll
be doing a story on a new film called The
twenty one. The Yes, the twenty one Martyrs Christian Coptic
men killed by icens on a beach in Libya, and
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we're going to that to premiere that it'll be premiered.
We'll be reporting on it as well as meeting some
of the women they the widows. Yes, those men, I
understand that they have such a vibrant faith in light
of all they've lost and yet and speaking of miracles,
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I've been told that they kind of live LIFs of miracles,
lives of miracles. But these are men who really sacrifice
the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of the gospel.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yes, yeah, yeah, And that's that's an exciting thing and
something that we need, you know, we need more believers
to share and to tell just you know, talk story.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Jesus talked to he did, he spoken parables, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
He gives the ultimate storyteller, and he and he would
tell stories about people. You know, it wasn't some esoteric
thing way out there. It was it was what people
lived and what they understood. And you know that the
thing that's so exciting is to see that as a
as a writer, that God has given us all the
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gift of telling stories. That's why we need eternity, Chris.
We're gonna have to everybody's story. You know, it's yeah,
we're gonna we're gonna sit around a campfire and this
one's gonna tell and this one. So you know, that's
what we're about. That's what we're about, telling the true stories,
the real stories, and showing people how what it was
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like and letting them then step into the picture and
step into the story. And we've we're doing it with
you know, homeschooling and you know, in a zillion different ways.
So it's it's an exciting thing to be part of.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Our good friend Ray Bentley, who's gone on to be
with the Lord, used to say step into the story.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Right, Yeah, yeah, that was his that was his uh,
his motto is step into the story. Oh what a
what a celebration in heaven, you know, I mean, ge
was really And the a neat thing about the the
Elijah Chronicles is that every cent of that, I mean,
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we were paid to write and that was it. You know,
there's no we don't get royalties, but we were paid
to write and the every penny of that goes to
Ministry for Israel. So that's a neat thing. You know,
we we did it and h and so when people
go on Amazon and they buy the Elijah Chronicles, which
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is bragmantly body tainey and should have had Brock on
it too, because all the research can get anyway. It's
you know, that's that's a that's a place that's it's
a little bit different. You know. We we did present
day stuff, but those are those are books that have
gems of a biblical connection and historical and prophetic connection.
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And like I said, the most exciting thing for me
what's in we found this? God gave this to I
guess Ray was gone but the arbell And I'm going
to be fascinating when I get the Harem and say
to the Lord what was the connection between mott Arbel
and this beautiful young woman who is in all compstage?
What is that about you? Hear? Yes, it must it
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must be somehow connected.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, How would you encourage people right now to step
into the story, as Ray would say, and be part
of what's going on God's prophetic plan wherever they are.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, I'm going to let Brock feit of that. I've
got a thousand things that I could say.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Okay, I will to those who have already read, let's
suspect a title. If you've read Gates of Zion and
it's sitting on your shelf and you don't expect to
read it again. Then pass it along, give it to somebody,
give it to a child or a grandchild, or a
church library. Put it out there where somebody else will
(30:07):
see it. And obviously, if you haven't read the books yet,
then you didn't check out your church library see if
they already have Gates of Zion or buy one, go
online and pick up a copy. It is a absolutely
perfect place to get your head around what's going on
in the world, in the Middle East and why it's
(30:27):
so important.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, we've had politicians say to us reading your books
influenced my ideas about Israel, and you know I'm thinking
about that right now. I mean, Michelle Blachman is one
of them who said, I read your books Design Covenant
series while I was pregnant, and she named her youngest daughter,
(30:53):
so she was pregnant with at that time, she named
her Elisa, after the main character design Covenant series. Isn't
that funny? Oh? Yeah, Michelle is a great friend of
mine and in yours as well. But yeah, pass them
on to people, pass them on, and if you're a
homeschooling parent, get your kids. And I'm talking you know, Junior,
(31:14):
I can read these. We kept them clean, guys. We
we just there's no reason to go into foul language
or or explicit sex or any of the things that
are in modern books now. And so we we have
kept all of our books very very readable for the family.
(31:35):
So they're available autographed, uh and you know, well priced
at teenybooks dot com. Or you can find them on Kindle,
all of them, almost all of them on Kindle, so uh,
they're they're there and uh tiny books dot Com. And
and we autograph them and package them. Then I've gotta
(31:58):
they've got a whole box this sign right now, Yeah,
to go to go sign after we're done here. But yeah,
just pass them along to give them to your kids,
let them read, and they will find the truth of history.
They'll find the truth in history.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, if you want to give them a little insulation
before they go into the fires at university or public school, yes, exactly,
a good place to start. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And speaking about Michelle Buckman, she's overseeing the Israel Institute
there at Regent University, yeah, School of Government and then
doing a great job there. And I can also as
you say, this. I have a granddaughter in mine that
I think would love to read The Gates of Zion
and uh and maybe the whole series. How about Shiloh
(32:51):
Shiloh Light. How do people find out about that?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
The Shiloh Light donation is uh, it's it's in process
right now.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Okay, you know, we'll be Shiloh Light dot org when
the website is all of it.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
And meanwhile Taty books dot com is probably to start. Yeah. Yeah,
we named it after a series that we wrote, which
is my family uh in Arkansas during the Depression, which
is my favorite books. Yeah, the Shiloh Legacy books and
my favorite favorite and they they are also books of
(33:29):
reconciliation between blacks and whites in the South. Yeah, and
French brought them together.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So yeah, any any final thoughts about what you want
to share, what's on your art?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We as long as we bless Israel and pray for
Israel and ask God to give wisdom to the to
the leaders that we have. Now we're going to make
it through, guys. We will. It's it's now down to
a laser pinpoint of every single person matters, and that's
(34:03):
what the scripture teaches us it's not some universal, big
you know thing that you know, all Christians are all denominations,
which we know many of them are not really Christian.
But your relationship with Jesus Christ is what matters. And
so if I could say anything to anybody, it is
(34:25):
get your heart right with God. And the way you
do that is you you just bow your head and
you pray. Lord Jesus, I need you, thank you for
forgiving my sins and cleansing me of my sins and
dying for reasons. And you are resurrected, and I know that,
knowing you, I will also be raised to life from death.
(34:49):
And that start there, start there. And I don't care
if you if you have blown it in the worst way.
When I would say to everybody is look, get your
heart right with God because we're out of time. That's
what I would say.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Brought any final thoughts, I don't think I can improve
on that.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It sounds exactly right.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Well, would you both like to lead us in prayer?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Then?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
B P First, Lord, who want to thank you for
this opportunity to share to talk about how you have
blessed us in our relationship with Chris over these many
years and getting the word out about the reality of
history and the significance of Israel, and the importance of
continuing to support and pray for Israel as that real
(35:38):
beacon of light in the world that so many forces
are trying to snuff out. Lord, we pray against the
evil forces against Israel and in America that we have seen,
as we have said, going back to the time of
the Holocaust and the horrific events that happened, then we
(36:00):
see same demons, different bodies, and they're still here and
they have never given up on their goal of eliminating
Israel and the Jewish people and the prophecies that are
all connected with Israel and the Jews. Lord, we just
pray against those and we want everybody to be awake
(36:20):
through the dangerous times and the prophetic times in which
we live, so open their minds and hearts to see
the reality in every way.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Thank you, Lord, Thank you Lord, for Chris and for
his incredible ministry in Israel, and for his family and
the sacrifices that they have made for you and for Israel,
and for the Kingdom. Lord, for your kingdom. I pray
God that you blest the folks of CBN Michelle and
(36:51):
the Israel Institute and all things Lord that you are
doing to wake people up, help our work, only to
give you the work where we asked this in the
name of yesh Amen Amen.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Father. I also pray for brock and Body, and pray
that a new generation would rediscover the Zion Chronicles, the
Zion Covenant, Elijah Chronicles, the ad Chronicles, all the works
that they've done throughout the years. I pray, Father for
the Shiloh, a light foundation that you would use at
as well, just to spread spread this word about Israel,
(37:29):
about America, about prophecy, and about your return. And I
also want to pray for anybody that's listening to that
heart was moved by what body shared. If you'd like
to receive Jesus into your heart, you can just say
that simple prayer that she mentioned. Father. I am a
sinner and I know you sent Jesus to save my
(37:51):
save me from UH fraternity. So I invite you Jesus
into my heart as my Lord and savior and help
me live my life for you in Jesus' name. You
know there's a website you can go to a CBN
dot com. UH people there will pray with you and
and encourage you if that's what you've done in the
(38:11):
last in the last few moments in Jesus name, well,
a delight to be to be with you, brock and
body and all.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, we're with all of you, guys and men. Just
ask you know P. Ninety one, the Angel, the Angel
of the Lord doing camp around you and keep you safe,
and keep Israel safe. And and we're praying for the
for the return of the hostages. We're praying for Israel
and and for America. I love this country. I love
(38:47):
this country and what we stand for. So anyway, as
a suburb of Israel, we're praying also for America.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Amen, God bless thank you, thank you.
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