A Burke in Progress w/Peta Murgatroyd Chmerkovskiy

As Cheryl continues to find ways that allow herself to grieve the divorce and move on, she finds comfort in a visit by her friend Peta Murgatroyd Chmerkovskiy.

Peta opens up about her own childhood, parenthood as well as her infertility struggles and how thought she had lost Maks in the war in the Ukraine. 

It’s a raw, open and extremely emotional conversation that serves as good therapy for us all. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Burke in the Game and I heard radio podcast.
Hey guys, welcome to Burke in the Game. I have
got a very special guest. But before we get there,
just a little update. As always, Um, you know, I
guess you can say I've been very emotional lately, like
very um sad, anxious a little bit, but more like

(00:26):
just trying to process my emotions. I just reminded myself
this morning actually, as I was getting ready to record
the podcast, that I haven't really grieved or mourned the divorce,
the official divorce, which was the premiere of Dancing with
the Stars. What a coincidence that was September nineteen. So

(00:47):
now that things have kind of calmed down, I mean,
I'm still in a lot of professional numbers on Dancing
with the Stars, but now that you know my schedule
isn't as crazy, I have realized that I'm um full
of emotions, whether that be you know, a possibility of
me not coming back on top of a divorce, on

(01:07):
top of possibly going to trial or I am going
in January. There's just so much drama. I guess you
can say in my life at the moment that I'm
kind of trying to not numb, right, I mean not
kind of. I'm not numbing. I'm not using anything. I'm
not drinking anything as far as alcoholic beverages go. Obviously,

(01:29):
I'm still sober. However, I could still numb through productivity
and the last two days. I know we're going through
solar eclipse for all of you into astrology, but I
guess it's all it's happening everywhere, but really intense for
me at the moment. I can only speak for myself.
And um, Like, I was just driving to get a
COVID test per the show, and I was just bawling

(01:51):
my eyes out in the car. And I'm just really
trying to let in the feelings because I, as you
guys know, I'm really good at pushing them away. But
I just have tried intentionally to cry it out, you know.
I think in society today we're so um consumed with
like just be happy, just be positive. And it's like

(02:13):
I've never lived my life um in a way where
I'm masking in that sense. Like I I even don't
do that when I'm dancing. I don't just put a
smile if I don't feel like smiling, you know, I
like to be as authentic as possible. And I would
like to say that's one of my best qualities as
a person is authenticity. So I'm trying to do that
with myself in my own company as well. And um,

(02:35):
you know, whether it be my dog or um, just
being distracted with responding to emails. That is also a
numbing device, you know, for those of you guys that
can relate, just because you know, numbing may sound to
you like, oh, you know, using no you can numb
through other things. You can numb through stuff that is
socially acceptable, like productivity. Put yourself all into just work

(03:00):
and stress and all of that, so that you don't
have to deal with the sadness that can may come
through your body or disappointment or anger or whatever it is.
And it's like, it's okay to be sad, it's okay
to not be okay. Um. I had a therapy session yesterday.
It's been a while since I've been on the show.
You know, sometimes that has to be put aside, and

(03:21):
I was just saying, how sad it is that, you know,
there's so much transition happening in my life at the moment,
so many you know, great things, maybe in the works.
I definitely know that that is coming, which is exciting,
but let's not numb like for me. What I tend
to do is I tend to just focus on, Okay,
what's next, what's next, instead of just being living in

(03:41):
the uncertainty of life, because life is uncertain. That's something
that I can guarantee. Um, I've been listening to Oprah
a lot. Um. She is just I love her. I mean, jeez, Louise,
I just love everything that she has to say. And
I mean she's never been to therapy herself, she said,
and I think she's just learned so much through the
years of doing the Oprah Show. Anyway. I just feel

(04:04):
like sometimes we try to pretend to be okay, and
I know that that tends to just stay in your
body and that can cause diseases in the long run,
hopefully not. But I just say, you know what, I'm
here to say, let's it's okay to really not be okay.
And I'm and I guess I can say I'm not
okay right now. You know, there's a lot of change happening.

(04:24):
It's overwhelming, it's sad, but um, I truly believe in
my heart that this is something I need to do. Okay,
I'm start crying again, but I just put my eyelashes on,
so I really don't want to before Peter gets here. Anyway,
I love you guys, enjoy this interview. Pete is a
great friend of mine, and you know she's gone through
a lot the past couple of years, so stay tuned. Peter,

(04:55):
Oh my god, you're here and you have a baby
is not a baby anymore, but and you have a
to spend and thank you for making the effort. No,
I wanted to come because I haven't been to your
house and like, oh my gosh, when was the last
time you were here? I just asked you. I was
probably drunk ten twelve years ago. Were drunk drunk, and
definitely at nighttime, probably wee hours of the morning. Yeah, um,

(05:16):
how are you? I'm good. It's so nice to not
see you in um, well us for sure, but dance
outfits and and work out where and actually just have
a nice conversation. I know, it's just, um, I feel
like we're always either dancing, got Rhyan stones on and
Peter Jane beauty is that what it's called. I was

(05:39):
just talking about your product and it's actually pretty amazing.
I still go to tanning beds because that's who I am.
But you don't idea. I was just in one yesterday. Sure,
I covered my face, cover my face, yeah, but I
don't have any like moles or anything. Yeah, but they
can pop up really quickly. You got to be careful
with that ship. God. I love a good old tanning

(05:59):
bed though. I remember when I first came here to
l A in two thousand and six, I was so
tann and that wasn't even that wasn't like fake tan,
it was tanning bed tan. Let's get into it, shall we.
What is your first question? Well, have you ever heard
Burke in the game before? Have you listened to it? Honestly,
it's okay. I have seen snippets on social okay, if

(06:19):
I'm honest. So Burke in the game is basically getting
me back in the game, the dating game, but also
just life in general. It's kind of veered off to
like it's super interactive. So we ask audience, like our
audience just questions and um they just you know, give
me advice basically, and I really do take it all in.
But I guess lately it's been very dramatic my life.

(06:41):
As you know, it's been um the divorce happened the
premier night of Dancing with the Stars. Then I have
possibly or no for sure going to trial in January
for my dog. Yeah, and likely as you know, this
will be my last season on Dancing with the Stars.
So there's lots of luge is happening and it's been
really comforting. Like Louis was here last week, and I

(07:02):
guess you know, you've known me for so many years?
How long have we known each other since? Like two eleven?
Whoa what year are we in now? Is eleven years? Yeah,
that is eleven years. I guess you know. For me too,
I've seen I've been kind of the observer of your
life as well, you know, and how you came here

(07:24):
and you were a part of our cast with you know,
no baby and none of it and then your life
just turned around. But let's take us back, me and
my listeners to how dance became a huge part of
your life and why you love dance so much. Well, so,
I don't know if you know like the full story,
but I um started in ballet obviously in Australia, and

(07:50):
I kind of didn't really have a choice, Like my
parents just put me in it, and I did it,
fell in love with it, continued with that until I
um hurt my ankle. I had a major ankle surgery
at fifteen, and I kind of had to decide then
and there what I wanted to do. If I wanted
to continue dancing and see if I could do something else,

(08:10):
see if I can get back up on two point
choose again, And ultimately I chose to dance still, but
it wasn't the same with ballet, so I had to
make that and I got to go into a bit
more detail. But I was like a Russian ballet school,
like it was strict. Yeah, it was really strict. It
was the viguan of a method of training. So it
wasn't like vigano, which is like what that mean? The

(08:33):
tough Russian style like it was that's why you married,
isn't that funny? Like well you are who you? Yeah?
And that was that was kind of my childhood. Um.
But it was a really really serious school. And so
when I decided to give up ballet, I was like,
what am I going to do? Because I still want
to dance and this is my outlet, as you know,

(08:55):
it's like it's what we love to do to like
if we're sad, if we're depressed, to go and dance,
and of things seems to fall into place. Um. So
I went into the local town hall. It was ridiculous
and there was all these old people doing salsa and
I was like, I want to I want to salsa
with you guys. And so I went in there and
like sneakers and flat shoes and just yeah, and I

(09:17):
just went and danced with this little old man and
the teacher. They're kind of sore, like oh my god,
you have some potential. Like have you dance before? I
was like, yeah, I do ballet, but I've never done this.
And he's like, let's see how you go, and like
would you like to do competitions? And we do, you know,
bore him dancing competitions and I was like what's that?
You know, I had no idea what I was getting
myself into. And then like literally within three or four months,

(09:41):
I had the ex Australian Champion as my partner. Like wild,
you can't make this ship up. So like I just
did little salsa lessons until they took me to this
Humphries Dance studio, which was like fred Astaire, Yeah, like
a fredist there. And they were like, oh, yeah, she
has potential. Let's like try to get her a partner.
And so in walks Joshua Keife like the amateur champion

(10:07):
Ta Sparkle, and he was like, and I had no
idea what I was going to do, like an audition,
like a tryout. I had no idea what a tryout was.
So I had only been like a single ballerina, so
like coming in this guy was like, okay, walk for
me like a bad boy of ballroom. No, he wasn't
a bad boy. Actually, okay, I love it. I love

(10:30):
you josh um. Yeah. So he made me train eight
hours a day and he and he was literally put
CDs in my hands, CDs and my hand in CDs
are like what we used to listen to you before,
put one on my head and I would have to
like rumble walk like this, and like for eight hours
my feet were bleeding, bleeding with the shoes, with the

(10:50):
heels and everything, and of course I didn't know how
to do bore room dancing. But he trained me for
eight hours. And were you a fan, Like, were you
watching VHS tap kids again? This is how are you
used to watch a video. I used to watch the
Australian Championships every Christmas night. We used to have them on,
so it's like PBS like for us back in the day,
and like Ohio star Ball was like yeah, yeah, yeah,

(11:10):
it's like a big TV special type of things. So
I used to get hooked on that ship and then um,
after that, decided to compete with him. He accepted me
as his partner, and um, we decided to keep dancing
and we went to UK Championships, didn't do very well,
came back, got a different partner, got third with Trent
Witten in Blackpool, which was like my highlight a no

(11:33):
in under twenty one. Okay, that's still that's huge. It
was Blackpools, like you may have heard me talk about
it with Louis. It's like our Olympics. Yeah, totally um
and then stumbled across burned the floor and burn the
flu to me about that, So burned the floor, you guys,
we'll explain what burn the Floor is. Burn the Floor
is a stage show created by Jason Gilkison, Peter Roby,

(11:54):
Harley Medcalf and it went all around the world. I
started in is a theater show. So we did like
packed as theaters. We performed to like ten thousand people
in Tokyo. Um and when was that? You were part
of the original, not the very very original. It was
like the second or third installment of it. And it's
still going. You have still going on cruise ships. And

(12:16):
you went to Broadway. Went to Broadway. That was like
the pinnacle highlight of my theater career. That was amazing.
Have you been. I saw you guys, you and Max.
I saw you guys on Broadway. Really I went to
visit you. I wore the silver Nasty shirt with bootleg
or boot cut jeans I have remember, Yeah, no, I
told you. The only reason why I remember this because

(12:37):
I had my storage and my phone got so full.
I had a race pictures and that was one of them.
Oh my god, that's very amazing. Um. And that's that's
where I met Max. And um so you did you
compete more than just under twenty one or no, babe,
I competed for two years. Okay, so talk to me
about First of all, I have so many questions because

(12:57):
I am single, but I also want you know the
possibility of kids. We have talked in private a lot,
and I know you strongly believe in one way. I
keep going back and forth because I've got other issues
to deal with, not just you know, the fact that
I'm single, which I don't mind being a single mom.
It's more about like body dysmorphia and um how like, honestly,

(13:18):
I I am so scared to even carry my own
baby because of the fact that if I gain weight.
I just know, like I've been trying to observe like
those moments of insecurity when I do feel maybe not
at my best or maybe it's all in my head,
who knows, but it affects my whole day, my life,

(13:38):
and I don't want that to be brought down to
my kid. I totally see you, hear you on all
of that. I think a lot of dances, as you know,
have a bit of most disbody dysmophia, eating disorders at
some point in their life of some type, whether it's
bolimia and arexia, whatever it is. We've all dealt with
those issues of trying like saying that we look fat

(14:00):
and like when we don't lookin of mirrors all the time,
right right mirrors and skimpy costumes, and you know, we
have to look our best at all times. And my
weight has fluctuated throughout my life, you know, with a
good five to seven pounds always like I always lose
weight on the show, always gain it back within a
month after the show. It's just a thing. Um. But yeah,

(14:21):
I'm about when you were carrying your baby. Oh no,
I was told. I knew that. Like when I was
carrying my baby, I I was all in. I was like,
there's nothing that's going to jeopardize, like I will eat
until my heart's content type of thing, Like I am
not going to be that person. Like I really put
all of those thoughts aside. I honestly didn't have those.

(14:41):
So I knew my thighs where I knew I had
cellulite all over my thighs, but I hit it and
I was fine with it because I knew that I'll
get it off, you know. So how did you I
know that you came back to Dancing with the Stars
soon after correct or seven weeks seven weeks after you
gave birth, So what was how did you handle all
of that mentally? Again, I think I just we had

(15:06):
a full time nanny, like and I mean twenty four
hours a day and that was like a saving grace
because I couldn't do it otherwise it was impossible. Um,
and how about with your body changing, it was a
little difficult, but again, wardrobe walked worked with me. I
put tights on, I wore black a lot of the time.
I cinched my waist in. I strapped my boy to

(15:26):
this day, like my boobs were double D s M huge.
Still breastfeeding obviously for breastfead for six months. So it
was like, you work through it because you have this
beautiful trial. No, you're literally like, I don't give a
shit about myself anymore, do you know what I mean?

(15:47):
You really enter that period of just like just everything
is for them and it is not about you, and
you really get over that ship real quick, you do.
It's I mean, I just don't I think. Look, I
don't know. All I know is that when carrying a baby,
I think I would want to have a partner with
me because I think that's a lot I um, I

(16:07):
can't even imagine. Um. First of all, I want to
talk to you about the IVF process because that has
also been something that you know, we've had a specialist
on here as well who has talked me through it all.
And then we've also had Louis on last week where
he talked about adoption, and I've really considered adopting. Um,

(16:29):
I don't want to wait for me to have a partner,
you know, I get the pressure of that all like okay,
well until I have a partner, and then it's like, well,
now am I going to go searching for one and
then just picking the best next thing instead of really
taking the time and time maybe as a woman right
now is not on my side as far as freezing
eggs go. You know, I want to hear about your

(16:51):
experience with it, like as I'm thirty eight or thirty six,
so how is the process? Process is different cult? I
mean we are nearing forty, so after thirty your egg
count goes down, the eg quality goes down, and it's
really difficult to get a large amount of great eggs.
So my advice, my simple advice, is to do it asap.

(17:15):
I know that that sucks, and I know that that's
hard to hear, but it would be you know, are
you going to wait five years? I just went doing something.
Just adopt, so you would never want your own child.
It's it's just I never really as a little girl
like I always thought for some reason I was going
to adopt. I never. I don't yearn for carrying my

(17:35):
own kid. I yearn more for being mentally healthy. And
that's that's your choice. Then that's amazing. And there's so
many unwanted kids out there right now, and the system,
as far as all of that goes, is just not great.
But I also don't want it tomorrow. You know, I'm
still trying to get my feet planted on. You know,

(17:57):
there's a lot of changes happening in my life, so
I would like to at least feel a little bit
more grounded or yeah, I think that though, if you
put some wheels in motion, maybe a little bit like
so then when you're you are settled. It's like kind
of like what like the adoption if you want to adopt,
like start filing a conversation. God, I just know that

(18:19):
if I find one that I'm gonna want it tomorrow.
It But that's what So Louis said, be careful because
once you get on this website, you're gonna just it's
You're going to cry. And I just know me, I
am an addict. I'm either all or nothing. So the
thing is is when I see just like my dog,
like you just I want it now, Like there's nothing

(18:42):
convincing me other than me wanting something now. I can't
stress enough, Like if you want to freeze your eggs,
start it tomorrow. I can't because it is so and
I really can't do this alone. I don't think you
couldn't you don't think you can freeze your eggs. Well,
I don't think this thing of that. I think I
need some sort of moral support. I'll come over and

(19:03):
shoot you. I love you, but not even that bad. No,
But honestly, it was not even that. It's just the
hormones of it all like and then just like feeling
I just first of all, I would have to get
off my birth control that you know, I'm very codependent on,
and I know it's horrible and whatever, but at the
end of the day, I need a first beef done
with WHOA done with the show? This thing sometimes just

(19:26):
you know, smack you across the face anyway, but you know,
and then from then on it's like I just need
to know I'm never going to get back into a
dance costume again if I do this. That's not true,
that's not true. I was skinnier after I gave birth,
like six months after. But I mean getting off the
birth control. So I don't know if you know this,
but like so I've been on birth control and then

(19:46):
I went through a phase where like after season seven,
I got off of it and I retained all this
water weight twenty five pounds literally overnight on camera. I
was answering to the Maurice Green that and I got
firsth control, thinking I was gonna lose weight. That's what
everyone says, right, and that's what happens. Nope, I retained it,
and that was when the nation decided to call me fat. All.

(20:08):
That was when those articles came out. Listen, I get
that with like pts, everything that comes out because I
stopped at the birth control, and there is I guess
the way to wean off of it. My point is
is that it can't happen tomorrow. It's just a lot,
you know. I think it's a lot. I think that, look,

(20:29):
if it's meant to be, it'll be. But I also
know there are stories like Vibika, my dad's coach, she
also had a baby, not she wasn't planning on it,
but it was like forty forty five. If it's meant
to be, it'll be. I also don't mind adopting, and
I also don't I'm okay right now, Like right now,
I have to think about one foot in front of
the other, literally, like one day at a time. I

(20:49):
was just saying earlier before you got here, how like
emotional I've been lately? Um, because I guess I haven't
processed the okay, the actual divorce. You know that I'm
it's officially over since I've been numbing through Dancing with
the Stars, just like constantly going, going, going, and then
on top of it all, just like the grieving and
morning of that, and then also of possibly being done

(21:12):
with the show, like trying to take in every single
second because this is a huge it's another huge change.
It's a little overwhelming. New chapter. It's about to begin, yes,
but it's going to be probably the best chapter. And
I truly do believe that you're going to find somebody
when you least expect it. Yeah, I really do believe
that someone is out there. I don't know who, I

(21:34):
don't know how when. But it's not like he's going
to be down the street. You could be recompining at
my closet, unfortunately, because I love staying home. Probably won't
meet anyone under my roof, right, probably not. I also
refused to do dating apps. If you were single, would
you be doing dating apps? No? I don't like them. Yeah,
have you ever tried? You never tried? But like when
people scroll through, Like when I see people do right

(21:56):
and stuff, I can't. I don't know. I just I
think I don't want to meet somebody like that. You
don't want to be a scroll through? Yeah, I don't
want to be like a swipe left girl. Yeah. I
don't know. But dating in l A is hard. I
will give it to you. When Max and I broke up,
tell us more. And when I started to be like,
oh this ship, I'm going out and dating, you know,

(22:19):
let's let's do this, I found it very difficult because
boys douchebags, and it's just hard in Los Angeles boys
to find, you know. I think it's hard in general,
I really do. I think I think the more we
are achievers, right, I think, um in life and the
more independent you are, I think, the harder it's going

(22:39):
to be. Yeah. Now, speaking of Max, yes, I can
even imagine the terror you're going through during his time
in Ukraine. For those of you guys that are just

(23:02):
hearing this for the first time, which I highly doubt,
but obviously you know Max was in the Ukraine, right
you want to tell my listeners. Yes, so he was
in the Ukraine shooting World of Dance. He was a
judge for that and Dancing with the Stars as well
on a couple of different networks. So he was doing
really well over there. I was so proud of him.
He was having a ball part on me though, because

(23:24):
I was here by myself with shy Um, but you know,
I was just so proud of him that he's done
really well over there. And then we heard about all
this happening, right we heard President Biden make the speech
Americans get out. He came back on to surprise me
for Valentine's Day and we had a great two days

(23:45):
and then had to decide as to whether he's going
to go back because Biden had already said that speech,
and so we called production companies, we called everybody over there.
It was like, you know, people in the consulates, everything,
can he come back? Should he come back? Yeah? Come back? No,
no worries, you know, like everything's fine. Ukraine is the same,
which it is. It was literally nobody was changing anything

(24:06):
about their daily day, you know what I mean, their
daily workflow. Everything was as per usual. So he went
back and I remember giving him a massive hug at
the airport, just being like, okay, please, God, like just
be good. And then was your intuition saying something else? Yeah,
I mean we were both like really nervous for him

(24:28):
to the President of the United States is telling you
not to go, right, But we all thought it was
they were bluffing, that they were never going to cross
that line and come in into the territory. So we
were all just like, NAT's not going to happen. You know,
they're just you know, because no one else was scared
over there, so nobody and you know, in hindsight, we
obviously made the wrong decision, but so sent him back over.

(24:54):
And then within I'm going to say, maybe five to
seven days, I remember it started ramping up and then
I called him and he was in the middle of
packing his bags and he was he was in a
very bad state. He was like hyperventilating packing his bags
and he was trying to face time me. But you know,

(25:15):
if the phone was just going wild, like he was
just throwing shot in his suitcase and I was trying
to see what was going on. And then he showed
me what was happening outside the window, and he's like,
look at the line of cars. How am I going
to get out of here? And I'm like, babe, call
anybody you know jumping a car, jumping a car that's
in the line to get out of the country. I
don't care how you get in. And so anyway, so

(25:36):
there was no lead up to this, like it just
happened overnight, overnight, like even the first five days he
was there. There was no warning signs. There weren't like,
you know, nothing nothing on the news, nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing,
and like there was nothing happening or they kept talking
about they kept talking about it, but nothing had happening,
had happened. So um, but he woke up it was

(25:58):
like five in the morning his time, and he had
his phone had blown up because the production company had
tried to call him to say go now, go now,
and he was sleeping, so he didn't get all these
texts and these calls. So he woke up to like
an absolute bombardment of fear. And yeah, it was Cheryl
was so bad nine days. I think it was so

(26:21):
those videos we all saw on Instagram that was him
at a hotel or was he underneath like was he
in like a The first couple of videos you saw
was at his hotel. And get this, in his hotel
people were still going around in their robes and their
slippers going to the spa. He showed me. He literally went, babe,
look this is how people are reacting to the Americans. No, no, no,

(26:44):
they were Ukrainians. He would he would point the phone
and I could see in the distance people just walking
in their white robes to the spa like they didn't
care what was going on. That people were still giving
services like that. That's crazy, I know. And so obviously
the hotel was like trying to shield people. Every most
hotels have business bunkers and stuff like that. You know,

(27:06):
what do you call it? Bomb shelters? Um? So, I
mean when Max was by yourself, Oh my god, I know,
I can't go. It was so bad. Like I remember
him sitting in the lobby and him literally holding the

(27:28):
phone and being so scared, like just saying, I don't
know what I'm going to do. I could die right now,
Like they could come right now because they were trying
to get into the central part of Kiev. Um, and
he was right there. They were trying to get to
the consulate and it was like literally down the road
from when he was staying. So like every night when
the sirens would go, um, he would fear for his

(27:49):
life and it was it was really bad. And so
we we contacted, um some people to try to get
him out of where he was, to get him to
like a safer area, and UM, that was the best
thing that we did. Did you, Um, does he have
family there not? Not like not like immediate not immediate family. No.

(28:10):
So okay, So explain to me now what your situation
was during that time, like where were you, well, who
were you with? Because I know, you know, I did
reach out. This is when I had just gotten separated,
and I was like, I'm at the Fairmont if you
want to come here and you need to get away. Um,
I obviously didn't know, Like I was just glued to
CNN with my dog in my hotel room, just like

(28:33):
then going back and forth from CNN to Max's account
and then just like asking Leah if you were okay,
because I knew that she had contacted you. I didn't.
I knew you were getting bombarded with text messages and
so like I just wanted to send one long one,
which I did, but like, you know, just because it
just is nice regardless, you know, I know it can
get overwhelming, but I don't know what the situations. I've
never been in it. So what were you doing? And

(28:55):
how were you feeling? Alone? Did you how did you
what did you tell Shy? I was is awful. It
was me on the couch with literally I had cried
so much. I had burnt rings around my eye, and
I my neighbors were giving, like you know, knocking on
my door to say, you know, like here's some cookies.
Are you okay? You know, Val and Jenna would come
over and spend the night sometimes so I could sleep,

(29:17):
and they would be on the couch watching CEE and
would take turns. And you know, it was hard too
because communicating with him over there time difference. Plus also
in this other place where he was staying actually can't
mention it. Um they would tell him they're coming, this

(29:37):
is it, They're coming in tonight. Turn off all your lights.
And he called me and he said, he said, Pete,
don't call me it more. He said, don't call me.
I'm going out for a couple of hours. Now I'm
turning off all the lights. Um, I have closed my
shutters and I'm gonna go to sleep. Okay. It was
the worst fucking thing ever. And he said, please don't

(29:59):
call me because they could see the phone light up,
they could see my lights come on. And I'm like, okay,
all right. And that was probably the worst thing ever.
That that phone call was the worst thing because I
was like, this could be in No. I just didn't
know what was going to happen, and so I was
just home by myself and obviously was shy, like really
affected him. Um, I had to go to him. No,

(30:21):
it's okay. I had to go to the school teachers
and they were like they came to me and said,
he's not doing great. He's coming in he's not confident anymore.
And I had to have a big sit down with
the teachers, and you know, it affected everybody. I can't
even imagine. Did you talk? So he still went to
see still I took him to school. He would ask me,

(30:42):
why why are you sad today, mummy? And he saw
you cry, he did. I tried to keep it as
much as I could, Like, um, I had my housekeeper
watch him a couple of times too, so then I
could just be in my room by myself and just
kind of like not have the TV on near him.
But he was very oblivious to it, apart from me

(31:02):
seeing me with my red eyes every day. So I
didn't tell him that. Oh no, no no, no, I just
said that Papa was still away working and you know,
nothing nothing was said. No, I couldn't because you guys talk.
Did he ask like, why are you crying? Ever? Yeah?
Yeah he did, And I can't remember what I said
from a moment, but it's just a mummies having a
sad day to day or something, you know, like very vague. Um,

(31:27):
I have never cried about this when I've spoken in
any interviews that I've done. You have to let it
out because it's really it's important because it can cause
you know, issues of your body, and I think it is.
I can't even imagine how this probably felt like every
time you woke up in the morning like a horrible dream. Yeah,

(31:48):
I I well, I didn't sleep. I honestly didn't sleep.
I would maybe taken nap for an hour, and you know,
when it was calm over there. Max was like, please
go to sleep, baby, go to sleep. I'm fine. We're
going into the bomb shelter now, okay, Like I'm fine
in the bombshell and nothing's going to happen to me.
And you know, it was just I couldn't sleep. It
was like all this, yeah, yeah, he would come over

(32:11):
like you feel helpless, yeah, helpless. There was nothing that
I could do. I called the get this. I called
the U. S Consulate and I will never forget this
call because they said, look, my husband is over there.
And this is like day two and I'm like They're like,
have you filled out the forms? And I'm like, yes,
I've filled out the forms. I've done everything. And they're like, well, ma'am,

(32:34):
if he's not out, we suggest that he takes cover.
And if he doesn't take cover, we suggest that he
picks up a firearm. And I'm like, take cover and
get onto something because and I'm like, that's all you
can offer me. Nobody can go and grab him. They're like, no, ma'am,
We're so sorry. Nobody can come and grab your husband.
Right now. We've told everybody to be out, and I

(32:56):
was like, wait, So they told everyone to be out with.
They weren't able to go out, Like, well, they're saying
that we told Americans to leave before, and well President
rightn't he did. He said, Americans, you've got to get
out of the country right now because they shut all
the airports. They bombed all the airport runways, so no

(33:16):
planes could take off forgotten, no private planes, you know,
because we're thinking, who's got a private jet? You know,
like we're thinking of all these crazy no no ideas
and fight flight or freeze. I mean actually, and so
when did was there, hope, when did that turn around
for you? Was he still there? Well? The people that
he was with, um, they were like West staying, West staying,

(33:38):
so they yeah, okay, you don't have to They were
like West staying. So you either stay with us because
we've got you, or you need to leave. And I
was like leave, leave, get in a train, get on,
get on, you know. But it was hard because everyone
knows him there, so he can't just jump into a

(33:58):
car because he's either going to get for his money.
There's curfews. I mean, he was outside outside. Did he
get arrested? He got arrested. Yeah, And that was another
thing I was like, what the you just from? What for?
Going outside? They thought that he was a Russian spy
because they had caught other Russian spies around his hotel
that were dressed as civilians. So they thought he was Russian,

(34:22):
and so they took him in. They put him on
their seat and they Max had swept through everything he had.
He thought he was going to be shot in the head, tortured, tortured,
and he had sweat. He said he was wet, just
with absolute fear. And they took his phone, they took everything,
and they were like who are you? Who are you?

(34:42):
Tell us who you are and he's like, Max, I'm
on the TV show. You can look me up, like
like like trying to, you know, sort of get out
of it. It was quick, but they asked him to
say a word in Ukrainian. They said, say something in
Ukrainian because Ukrainian is slightly different from Russian. And luckily
he said it in the right way with the right accent. Accent,

(35:03):
I guess. And there's a different diet, is the same
linguage different day, completely different, no, completely different, but there
are some words that are the same. With this word,
only Ukrainians would probably know this word or something like that.
Thank god he knew that word. And then somebody recognized
him in the hotel. They said, no, no no, no, that's Max.
Let him go, let him go type of thing. So

(35:23):
that is the movie. You can't write this ship, I know.
And I was like, what the hell were you doing
out on the street, Like why are you out on
the street? Get back in the hotel. You know, I
guess you just don't really know, right, like I mean,
I know he just wanted to get some fresh air
and for a second, but so was that when? So
after that happened, did he call you and tell you sorry,
I'm just fascinated by this? He did? Yeah, he called

(35:44):
me and told me he's like I got arrested. It
was like are you doing? And then Max? And then
from then was it the next day he got on
that train? Um, I don't know. No, it wasn't the
next day. It was probably three days after because we
were contemplating how to get him to the train station
and who was driving him and do they have a
gun to protect him because people were getting I don't

(36:06):
know if he saw the images they were hijacking the
people who could fight, right, like they wanted people to
stay back, right, No, but like the Russians were killing
civilians who were trying to get out of that country,
because like, did they ever ask Max to stay back
and fight for his country? No? They never, They never
asked him, did he contemplate? I don't think he did. No.

(36:31):
I mean, he thought about definitely getting a gun and
protecting himself. But because he's you know, this is what
people maybe don't know, but he hasn't been a Ukrainian
citizen since he was twelve. You know, he left. It
was optional his He wanted to get back to his family.
He wanted to get back to us. Yeah, I mean,
you know, I don't think that that is really his

(36:51):
war to fight, and I don't think it's also um
mutually exclusive that he can't you know, obviously have passion
and empathy for the country that he was born in,
but he doesn't actually want to die there, even because
he lives here. You know, he's an American citizens, an
American citizen with the American family, so totally. But he did.

(37:11):
So he got on that train and I remember him
feeling really guilty, is that the right word he felt?
And I was trying to talk him out of that
because I'm like, no, you deserve. You were the one
that was lied to that you don't have to get
out of the country. You deserve to be on that
train like all the other Americans that were on those
trains that got to leave the country in time. Was

(37:32):
that why he felt guilty. Yeah, he felt guilty because
he was there with only women and children. No other
men could leave the country. So he was one of
the men, like and in the back trying to not
take up space, you know, because you know, I guess
I can't even imagine that. I know that shame and guilt,
but then also maybe the looks of I mean, I
don't know, I wasn't there, but I mean he was

(37:54):
doing his best to try to protect give their children
all of his food and stuff like that, because there
was babies crying, like I mean, separated from their fathers.
It's just it was heartbreaking, like real war, like that
was like the most war that he still going on,
still going on. Yeah, it literally I thought it was
going to be I was. I never forget. It was

(38:16):
in the fair amount where my ex and I got married,
and then here I am watching CNN and it's like
two days it's going to happen today and then it's
like it's still happening, still happening, and yet and then
him and Val went back. Max went to Poland. Is
that because he felt like he needed to. That was
absolutely he had to go back and to sort of

(38:36):
finish off and round up. And like he also built
ten homes over there as well with the money that
they raised from Rano. There ten ten homes with like
three beds in each, so they really, you know, they
put the money to good use. So was that when
like when you knew he was on the train, did
you was that You're like, there's a light. Oh yeah,
you just didn't know if you're going to see your

(38:57):
husband again? Yeah, I didn't until that where he had
gotten on the train. Um, it was like, nah, I
just don't know. When I was like calling all my
psychics that I knew, It's like everybody that had ever
had a reading with. I was like, tell me everything.
I've got a few in my back pocket. Um that's crazy.

(39:17):
But the train, I felt I felt comfortable with the
train because the train doesn't stop for anything. I nobody
unless they throw a bomb at the train, you know
what I mean. Like the train isn't stopping like it's
going all the way into Poland and stopping there, so
and then nothing can be touched as un territory. So okay,
thank you for being so vulnerable honestly, because I, um,

(39:39):
you know, it's really it's create life is so short, right,
and it just did this make I guess your guy's marriage,
I'm sure so much stronger. Yeah, I mean going through
nearly it feels like I nearly lost him. Um, yeah,
it does. I mean so much stress and so much
agony and worry and love for each other, you know.

(40:00):
I mean, he didn't know if he was ever going
to see his son again. You know, there's just things
that go through your head in those moments, like you know,
yeah it did. What is um, I guess what is
one thing that you can take away from that whole experience? Um,
like a life lesson? Um. I would really just r
on the side of caution more with not letting him

(40:22):
go back. I should have listened to my gut. We
should have really done the safest thing, and then if
it didn't happen, we would have sent him back over
you know, but we Yeah, we should have taken the
safer approach. Rather than oh, we'll see what happens. You
know what I mean, intuition follow it pretty strong, I think, um,
and we all have it if we want to have

(40:42):
it now when it comes to I know you and
Max had a kind of a roller coaster right of
a relationship. It like you would be on and off.
How many times was this now? No? Only one once? Okay?

(41:04):
So I know we broke up and then we got
a year and like three months okay, And how did
you get him to put a ring on it? Did
you give him an ultimatum? No, by not doing any
of that ship Like I don't believe in that ship
and I hate that ship. Like if you're like, oh,
this is the ring that I like, you know or
like or else or no. Yeah, I was just like

(41:27):
I knew that when we got back together that this
was it and I wanted it to be. Didn't pressure
him to marry you, or I wouldn't be like, if
you get back together, you have to marry me. No, No,
that's not that's not my style. Like like if you
love me, love me, you know what I mean, like
show it, show me, And he was showing me everything.

(41:48):
And then when he proposed me on the stage. I
was like in shock, Like I literally clamped up on
the floor. No. In Miami, we were doing sway that
stage should that dance with me particularly shocked, but I
was very shocked. I couldn't believe it. I clammed up
and I was I was like this walking towards him.
I looked like a freak. He was freaking out that
you were going to say no, no, I looked like

(42:10):
a freak. I was like, what is happening? But at
least he waited till you had hear makeup though. Well
yeah yeah, um, but you know, I guess I do
need to take some advice from you because I am
the opposite of you. Oh yes, yes, no precious show. So, um,
I may you know I need to have really And
this is why I've been advised by Patti Stanger herself,

(42:31):
the millionaire matchmaker, to date a pool of men. Have
you ever done that before? I've never done that. Yeah,
I'm a serial monogamous, so like I like one and
only you know, like the one and only Pamia and
like that's me, right, So I'm very loyal and I
also don't I get very jealous easily. Um, and I
think that has a lot to do with the way

(42:54):
I was raised and not having a really a staple
father figure other than my stepdad now, but that came
in obviously later in my life. As far as jealousy goes,
does that ever happen within like you and Max, especially
since you're on the show and Max isn't and you're
just I mean, I know the answer to this, but
you know, does it? How do you guys handle it?
I guess when it comes to even long distance, because

(43:15):
I don't know if I could handle that. That's a
long ways away. Ukraine. Um, I was thinking about this
driving in because I thought you were going to ask
me a question like this. It was really funny. I
was like, I'm a jealous, but like, look, we don't
wear wedding ranks, Like we don't just notice that. We don't, like,
we don't consider that you do have one. Oh yeah,
we have some massive I remember, we just don't. I

(43:37):
don't know. Is that something you've both talked about? No?
You just one day. I was like, you're not wearing
your wedding ring and he's like, oh yeah, babe, sorry
I forgot, like and I was like I was like, no,
don't be sorry, Like I didn't have one mind for
like three weeks. Like it's not a big thing for us.
Like when he goes to Ukraine, he doesn't take his
wedding ring with him, but everybody knows he's married, and

(44:00):
I don't. I don't know about that, babe. The thing is,
if he's going to cheat on me, he's going to
cheat on me with or without a ring, and I'm
never going to know about it the ring, you know
what I mean. And so I just I came to it.
I don't know. I just it's going to happen. It's
going to happen. Why are you so healthy? I'm no,

(44:20):
I think because he's because he's. Yeah, but he's proved
to me. He hasn't ever made me think never never, no.
And that's why I was so shocking for me when
he broke up with me. I was like, what the
our relationship is amazing, Like why did you do this? Like?

(44:40):
What what's wrong with us? I mean? What was the answer.
He's got cold feet, he's scared. Yeah, he did the
whole normal boy thing that men think that they just didn't.
They're just like, oh my god, this is great. Let
me let me just go away from it, let me
push her aside because it's not real. And then I
think probably the more you actually didn't pressure him, the
more he all more in love with you. Well, it's well,

(45:04):
this is one thing. As soon as I really removed
myself away from him in l A, like I was
doing my own ship. I was going out on my
own dates. I was saying this, I was saying that
I was That's when it was just like, yeah, that's
when it was just like, oh, wait a second, are

(45:25):
you dating this person? He would come up to me
and he would be like all over that ship, and
so that's good, it's gotta but you weren't doing it too,
like you weren't being intentional about making him maybe a
little bit. No, No, I was just like, he's doing
his own things. So why am I sitting back here
waiting like and you're broken up? Yeah, broken up? But

(45:46):
the men are funny. So what advice do you have
for me than Peter? Because you know my personality. I'm
very I don't know. You tell me what you think
my personality is. I think I think you know the
jealousy thing, that's a huge thing, Like did you have
that with with everybody? Because I've been let's just think
about like just and now I know through years and

(46:07):
decades of therapy, is it's really the not trusting men
because of me getting you know, sexually abused by one
my father. My first memory as a child is seeing
my father cheat. We talked about this. Have you thought
about what your first memory was? I asked her. I
like to ask my friends this, my listeners about like
what is your first memory as a kid, because for me,

(46:28):
it has a lot to do with the psychological. I guess, um,
the way you think about a relationship psychologically, I think
has to do a lot when you are in those
important stages of your life. And mine was seeing my
father with another woman is secretary. So that's crazy, Um,
I think. I think I said to you it was
being pushed on the swing, happy, and it's a happy memory.

(46:49):
I mean, yeah, I don't know. I think it back
to my jealousy issues, so you think that obviously. I
think this is why I think it's important for me
to date myself at the moment, because until I change
that and find more self love and security within myself
and not from outside sources, the more I will be
in that state of mind. Where it's like, no matter what,

(47:11):
I'll be okay whether without you. But I think you
have to also take a good look at yourself and
be like I'm Seryl, you know what I mean. No,
but seriously, like you're gorgeous, You're stunning, You're a great personality,
like your Cheryl Burke. You've done so much in this town.
I mean, I think that that has to be your
driving force. And then like, yeah, little things insecurities come

(47:32):
in with everybody everybody. I was looking at my thighs today,
you know what I mean in the morning and I'm like,
you know, like, oh, okay, there's a thigh and there's
the one thing. And I try to push that thought away,
you know, but they come in all the time. But
I think, you know, if you have that as your
your your baseline is that I'm freaking amazing, And then

(47:53):
anybody else that's trying that comes into your life that
wants to jeopardize that at the end of the day
is just so not worth it. Like you can't be
with those people. They have to literally be obsessed with you. Yeah,
I also have to change the pattern, like there is
a common denominator with everyone I've dated, Um, which I
won't mention, but you know, and I you know it's

(48:16):
hard for me, I guess in the past, and I'm
starting to now appreciate it. But when anyone was nice,
from my first dance partner to anyone, anyone with him
as a male figure nice to me, I was turned off,
so turned off by it because I didn't equate that
to love. I equated love to abuse and being cheated on,
and because that's what I saw so um to see

(48:38):
someone treat me with respect was really disgusting to me,
and I didn't understand. I actually thought they were disgusting.
It was such a turn off, it was uncomfortable. I
had to walk the other way. It's crazy. That is crazy.
I mean, I get the whole like you want the
bad boy or like the cat and mouse thing, like
that's the way to say it, but that's really what
it is though. It's literally because I didn't believe I

(49:00):
was deserved that I didn't understand, like why is this
guy being nice to me? Yeah? Why is he like
worshiping me? Yeah yeah? Or like oh he must feel
really shit about himself to be so to be so
kind like I was. And now I love it now
I'm like looking for it, like the little things like
opening the door for me or um just being aware

(49:22):
in general um of of my needs and vice versa.
And I've also I've noticed too there there has been
I don't think I've ever dated anybody who's more successful
than me because there's this type of control there that
I think I can buy love. In my subconscious I
know that that is not true. What you mean you

(49:42):
want to be top dog type of thing, like there
is a control like, oh well, if I support us,
then there's no way you're going to cheat. If I
support us, there's no way you're gonna Obviously that's not
the case. But I also again, I was raised with
my you know, my mom is the breadwinner, and it
wasn't like that with my all dad, but is now
like that, and I you know, she was raised in

(50:04):
poverty though, so it's like it's a different way. But
it's interesting just to tie it all together and just
be like, no, you know, I could change the pattern.
And I think that's the process that I'm in right now.
So when people ask if I'm dating, it's kind of
like I'm not even thinking about it because I know
that I'll fall back into that same pattern. So therefore
I have to take the time I need to be

(50:26):
alone and to change, um, just to change my my
chemistry and my brain and rewire. Yeah, and that takes time.
I think we need to find you somebody not in
the business. Not in the business. I think the dentist,
like teacher, I would like a neuroscientist and his name
is Can we talk about when you had COVID and

(50:47):
during that whole pregnancy? Yes? Um, gosh, win was that
um last season? I remember you told me you had COVID.
He was on the toilet when you text me that, Yes,
so um it was. Actually I went to Ukraine with
max Um for three days. I was trying to catch

(51:08):
my ovulation window, which is so insane because we haven't
we hadn't been together, he had been traveling so much,
and I'm like, how am I going to get pregnant
if you're not here? Like I need you here, And
I'm like, I'm just going to come to Ukraine. I
haven't been there for a while, so I'll fly out.
And so I flew out to meet him. I was

(51:28):
already starting to feel that's it. That's it for every
woman whoa the egg is there for twenty four hours.
I had no idea. Yeah, sorry, no, no, you're fine.
So I got there. I was feeling shitty, like regular
like aches and pains, like a bit of a headache,
and you know, I put it down to jet leg whatever. Anyway,
the first night that I spent there, I was so sick.

(51:51):
I was getting sicker and sicker, and I was there
to watch him on the show, and I mustered up
the energy to go and watch him on the show.
I was popping painkillers and I don't do this. I
was popping them every three hours, just I was eating
them because I was in so much pain. And I
had woken up in a pool of sweat before I
was meant to go. So I got my ship together

(52:12):
and I got tried to get pretty and walked off
into the set um. The next day, we went to
this really spiritual churchy place. I don't I forget the
name of it, but it is absolutely incredible. We prayed there,
we had one of the priests walk us around and
it was a really beautiful experience, and the priest knew
why we were there to try to bring a child

(52:34):
into into our life. And we walked outside afterwards, feeling enlightened,
feeling amazing. And then this little old lady came up
to us and she looked pretty regular. She didn't look homeless,
but Max said to me, she's homeless, like just just
leave her, just like, can't sort of turn away a
little bit. So we turned away, and she then came
up to us again and said something in Ukrainian like

(52:56):
can I please have some money? And so Max was
like no, no, no, sorry, we don't we don't have anything.
And then she's like no, no, no, please give us
some money. And he's like okay. So he gave her money,
and then she turned to me and she said, don't worry,
you're going to get a baby in there soon and Ukrainian.
And Max was like, oh my god. He grabbed my

(53:19):
hand and he walked me away. He was like, he's
very superstitious, as you know. So he was like, okay,
let's move away from her. And he wouldn't tell me
what she said. And I was like, what she say?
What did she say? And he's like, she's talking about
a baby in your stomach. I literally got pregnant that night. No,
I got pregnant that night. The last night in Ukraine,

(53:39):
flew back home super sick. I was vomiting on the plane. No,
I didn't know I had COVID. I thought I was
just I know, had virus of some sort whatever. Got
back home and didn't know I was pregnant. Took a
COVID test the next day, positive for COVID, and so
I was home by myself with shy with COVID. He
never got COVID. By the way, it's so weird how

(54:01):
this works. Um. I got so sick to the point
of calling an ambulance on myself because I couldn't do
it anymore. I was on the floor, couldn't open the
fridge door. I was so weak the fridge door I
could That's not that was my point. I was just
like I was putting like toast in the toast or
like this, like I was just I thought I was dying.
And it sounds so when people safety like freaking out.

(54:25):
No I was. I was just I felt horrible because
I couldn't parent him. I couldn't be a mom. I
was just like letting him be on the iPad all
day because I was just like all day process. Okay,
oh yeah, it was. It was like seven days of hell,
and I finally started to like hyper ventilate. The last day,
I was like on the phone with Max. I was
on the phone with Shanna and Brian because they lived

(54:46):
down the room. They were dropping me groceries across my
balcony because obviously they didn't want to get it. So
like totally get that. UM called Max and I'm like
I think I'm I think I got it, Like I'm
like this in his life. Max at it. No, he didn't,
not at all. And I was sleeping the same bed
with him everything like UM, and he said calling ambulance now,

(55:08):
and I'm like, what am I going to say? And
He's like, just call ambulance. And I'm like, I've never
called an ambulance before in my life, for anybody, for me.
So I was like got on the phone and I
felt like a dickhead and I'm like, I have COVID.
I think I'm dying. I felt so ridiculous and just dramatic.
But when they got there, like by the way in

(55:28):
Los Angeles, I was like, why did so many people come?
They bring out the fire truck, they bring out the ambulance,
and they bring out a truck to follow Babe all
of these people came for me. It was wild. Eight
people just had to happen. I don't know. I think
it's their protocol, like they have to bring everybody, um
the three different types of trucks, right, So all these

(55:50):
people came in. They were so good for me. They
took Shy into the other room because I was literally
in the chair hyperventilating. They were taking all my vitals
and they were like, I thought they were going to say,
we're just going to treat you here, but they said no,
we're bringing you in right now. And I'm like, oh
my god. They strapped me to a gurnee. Shy saw
me getting wheeled out on a gurnee and it was

(56:11):
just it was so bad. It was another thing. He
was like, Mama, where you're going. And I'm just say, baby,
Mom is going to be right back. I'm just going
to go check myself out. And you know, I'm trying
to like diffuse everything. And luckily a neighbor didn't really
care about COVID and she's like, I'm coming in no
matter what. I'm coming in. I'm looking after Shy and
I'm like, thank you so much. How did you find
out you were pregnant the hospital, in the hospital. In

(56:34):
the hospital, I have photos of myself. I don't even
look like me. That's how bad I was. I was
so swollen with all the I don't know I was.
I didn't. If I show you a photo, you're like,
that's not Peter. My face was like hideous. Um. I
was lying there. They did um so many different blood
tests and the doctor came back in one time and
he's like his face dropped and I'm like, what is it?

(56:57):
Tell me right now? Have I got cancer? What are
you talking? What are we what are we talking here?
And he's like and I had Max on my chest,
um face. I'm not FaceTime on speaker phone right He's
in Ukraine. Still, He's like, tell me what's happening. What
did the doctor say? And the doctor says, did you
know you're pregnant? And I'm like what And Max is like,
oh my god, baby, yeah, you're pregnant. And I was

(57:20):
like no, no, no, no, no no no. I was like,
wait a second, no, I just had my period two
days ago. And They're like it was the worst. It
was the worst. And I didn't realize I had had
a miscarriage at home. I thought I just had my
period early. It was a miscarriage. How many have you
had miscarriages? Three? Three and one failed IVF recently? Are

(57:43):
you planning so the future let's talk about the future
really quick or today moving forward? As far as your
future with Dancing with the Stars goes, do you want
to continue doing the show? Yeah? I would love to.
I mean as I feel like as long as I'm able. Yeah,
I do love the show. I love the direct and
that it's going. Yeah. Like I feel like the last
three seasons were tough, even for me because COVID everything.

(58:06):
It was just weird energy. Um, but this season, I
feel like the hearts back and they honestly they need
to have you back because you're now officially part of
the O G true, so we need as many ogs
in there as possible if you leave that I'm the oldest.
You are oldest woman. No, Sasha is older than me.

(58:27):
Yeah that's true. But as far as women go, yeah,
but hey, you know what, the older you are, the
more experience you have. Are you do you want? Are
you guys still trying for kids? For babies? Yeah? You want?
How many more? One? You? Just take whatever I can get.
So you're trying today, you're gonna go back to the
IVF process or you're just trying natural? Should be I'm

(58:47):
trying naturally, but I think I should make the coal
soon to stop the next round, especially if you can
do next season, right yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, Well I
wouldn't make it if I'm doing IVF. How long does
it take your no? No, no no, it takes a couple
of months. Oh yeah, three fol but then you get
pret nine months. That doesn't that is not the priority.

(59:08):
The priority is to have a baby, right totally. Okay, Yeah, Peter,
I love you, I love you to thank you so
much for coming on the show. I'm going to ask
my audience and listeners a question here, um and so
as you guys know, I love asking you guys questions,
and we're going to ask you the question of the week.
Pete is going to join us. The question of the

(59:30):
week is what is your first memory as a kid
and do you think this actually shaped who you are today? Anyway,
we want to hear from you, guys, so email us
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(59:50):
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