September 16, 2025 • 46 mins
In Part 2 of this week’s episode of Pretty Private with Eboné, David Joyner shares why he ultimately stepped away after a decade inside the purple suit, reflects on how his relationship with creator Sheryl Leach shaped his journey, and addresses the wild rumors he heard while bringing Barney to life. Tune in for an honest look at the legacy of one of the world’s most beloved characters.
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with David Joyner, the man behind Barney.
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as on Instagram. Okay Now and part two of my
conversation with David Joyner, we dive into the reactions people
had to his tantra business that outrage just rumors he
heard about Barney, including Barney being a pedophile, and.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I asked him one question as that actually bought him
the tears and maybe kind of tear up as well.
But y'all, hiss down.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This is one of my favorite interviews today, and thank
you all so much for the incredible feedback on part one.
I knew you would all would enjoy this conversation as
much as I did, so, I mean, why not. Barney
was such a huge part of our childhood, right, So
get ready because Part two starts.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I know when David Voss hears your story, I know
he'd be like, damn, like he gotta have some feelings
towards you.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I know that you laughing.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
And you know it's funny too, because you know, in
two thousand eighteen, when this journalist did this story on
me and it came out of former Barney Now runs
of Tantric Sex Business. You know, a lot of people
that I had worked with for years, they were like,
I can't believe. And I'm like, you know, I was
doing Tontra. Yeah, I had to sign an agreement about Tontra.
I would talk about Tontra all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I feel like even now they were still shocked because
I watched the documentary I Love You, You Hate Me,
and they was like.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I just we couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Like I still don't know what I'm like, come on, y'all,
stop it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You know I don't just from meeting you, you don't
see any type of person that would hide anything about yourself.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Like what you see is what you get exactly exactly.
And then also in Tantra, they teach you to walk
in truth.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And when you walk in your walking in your love,
you're walking in your purpose, and you're walking with honoring
yourself and knowing that as you're honoring yourself and you're
walking in truth, you're radiating that. So people were then
coming to you within truth. Yeah, you're able to see
through a lot of people's bull because it's like your
spirit's telling me one thing and your mouth is saying
the other. Yeah, stressed with the spirits telling me.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, facts fax facts.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And I feel like because of that, you had such
a good relationship with Bob West, which I'll even create
this term called Dino sinc. And when people would say
that Bob was the heart of it, heart of Barney,
but you was the soul of Barney.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, yep. Bob and I had a beautiful relationship.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Until when what's the tea?
Speaker 6 (06:24):
I knew?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So what's the tea?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
David?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
All Right?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So when I was working for Texas Instruments after graduating
it T T Tech, I was driving. I love cars,
So I was driving this Triumph t R seven that
I had bought in Indiana, and it was this whole
deal about My father was like, hey, you don't you
(06:49):
never want to buy a car from somebody's yard, blah
blah blah blah blah. So I bought this car.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
And the engine kept.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Messing up.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I had to get the engine fixed.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
When I got my job at Texas Instruments, you know,
it was over the phone, and so my car was
in the shop and I had to wait for the
car to get out of the shop to didn't drive
to Dallas. On my way to Dallas, the car blows
up again. And so then later on I go home
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to pick up the car, now making enough money to
put it in the shop.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
And so.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I know this story is crazy.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
So my dad comes to visit one time and we're
driving down the freeway and the car didn't have air
conditioning and you're in Dallas, Texas, where it's hot, hot, hot,
and you had these little fans, and then the car
breaks down again with my dad in it. So he's like, boy,
I told you how to buy this car, and I
told you to buy this car right. And so then
(07:54):
I bought this Mazda RX seven right. Loved Masa. When
I was in school. Good friend of mine, Tommy Mayberry,
his dad got him this Masa r X seven and
rotor engine, and so I didn't want to copy him.
So I was like, hey, man, now tell me he's
you know, he's driving this three hundred z and I said,
hey man, think about getting this Masa. He's like, yeah, man,
(08:15):
you're gonna love it. Man, you're gonna love it. So
I buy the Mazda right. So nineteen ninety three they
came out with a third generation Maza RX seven. I
wanted that.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Car so bad, don't tell me, Bob.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
When I was working at Texas Instruments, I even had
a poster of like this Mitsubishi three thousand gts and
I loved and my supervisors like, You're never gonna get a.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Car like that.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I was like, what do you mean? You're never gonna
get a car like that? So I was all right.
So when that Masa came out, I'm like, dang, I'm
getting that car. I go to even an auto show
and money falls out of my pocket in the car,
and I was like, down payment, yep, that's I would
come home from the clubs one of the dealerships had
(09:03):
one of them on the rack. I'd be laying on
the ground, looking at the body underneath the car, looking
at the shocks, looking at the struss, looking at the system,
the suspension system, all that falling asleep, birds chirping five
o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
So I'm gonna get this car.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I hadn't built up enough credit to make a purchase
of that amount because the car was thirty grand. So
I had this auto broker trying to put me like
this Toyota Mr.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Two and I'm like, no, no, no, I want this R.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Seven. So now, long story short, because it's got to
get longer. A good friend of mine who used to
come to a lot of my performances was the vice
president of this Toyota dealership, and he's always talking me about,
you know, I can put you in the Toyota the
new super comes out. He wants me to get in
the super and I'm like no, no, no, no, alright seven.
And I said, I have this broker looking for me,
but he says, my credit, I can't get it. He's like, well,
(10:01):
come by the office. Let's look at your credit. Let's
see what we can do. Go by this office. And
you know, he was like one of the major guys
who would come to my performances because I had developed
this following sometimes I do Fredis Stare, Michael Jackson, Prince
and people just thought loved my variety. And so I
go to his office and then he calls a friend
of his who works at a mas the dealership. He's like, hey,
(10:24):
you remember Barney. You know Barney. He's like, I got
Barney the Dinosaur in my office and he's looking for
a MAS seven.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I think you can help him out.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
So he's like, yeah, we're on speaker for him. He said,
tell me what you want. I said, well, I want
to black masa tan interior, the leather package, the touring package,
sun roof. He's like, well, I don't have one here
at the dealership, but I can find you one. I
might quarter it. He says, you know, when it comes in,
i'll let you know. I says, all right, I said,
but in the meantime, I'll come down. I'll sign some autographs,
(10:57):
you know, bring somebody, don't cut Two two weeks later,
I get the call. He's like, hey, Dave, we got
your car. We're gonna go pick it up. Blah blah blah.
You come down and so my I'm trading in. I'm
gonna trade in my old T I mean my R
seven and I had a mechanic because at RX seven
is you have to have a special mechanic to work
on those RX sevens. It's the engine. So he's doing
(11:21):
some work on my car so I can then get
it inspected and then take it and trade it in.
I go pick up the car, and I'm run test
driving the car, and I go down to get money
out to ATM. I'm driving back to his shop. This
big Friedo lay truck in front of me. The tail
lights are dirty. It slams on its brakes. I damn,
I hit the Freedo lay truck.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And so I was like, oh no.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
And so I called him up and said, Shannon, walk outside,
look down the street. He's like, what happened?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
So he's able to, you know, maneuver the engine so
that I can still drive the car.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
And I had the the.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Sports bra on the front, so the sports bra was
hiding all the defects. But now I can't trade.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
The car in.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Wow, I don't have a down Pavid. So Shannon's like,
I'll buy the car from you. I'll buy it and
fix it up or sold the parts. He's like, because
he knew he could sell those parts a lot. What
the car is worth?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Cool? So go get the car right, driving the car,
loving the car. I show up at the set. Everybody's like,
you got the car? You got the car? Said yes,
They're all excited for me, they're all happy. Yes, this
was May twenty May twenty fifth, nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Right, So.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I go to Shannon's shop because I bought this alarm
that it's like if you walk close to the car,
it's like security, please step away, security, please step away.
And when you look, when you turn the alarm on,
it's like the arm and then when it releases, alarm deactivated.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yes, so old school, all right.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I remember that Bob took me. Bob gave me a
ride to go to Shannon's to get pick up my
car after the alarm and everything was put on, and.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Then he's like, ohow, this is cool. Cool.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
So now he's talking to Shannon about rotary engines and
all this and all that, and Shannon's like, yeah, rotary
engines is only three parts. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Cut to.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
We have a week off in August, we come back.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
To the studio.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Bob got him a car.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
There's a rare one parked in my spot and I'm like, oh,
and you didn't see there was like maybe two or
three of them in Dallas at that time. And it
was like, who who got a red arc seventh and
why is it parked at my spot. I go inside.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Damn Bob runs up to me. He's like, hey, Dave,
did you see my new car? I said, that's your car.
He's like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
And I was like, Wow, you knew what it took
for me to get this car. You knew how much
I wanted this car. You knew what I had to
go through in the hoops I had to go through
as I get this car, and you just decide, Oh,
I'm gonna go ahead one just like it. I was
so mad.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I was so mad. Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
In hindsight, you're like, you know, it's just a car, right,
But everything that took place with the tr seven, my.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Dad and with him, it was just like nothing.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yeah, they are seven trading it in and then wrecking
it and all that stuff falling asleep under the car.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
It's like all this stuff and then you just gonna
go get one.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Just I was like, oh, man, what's up, y'all?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
Did he ever apologized or did he even understand what
that meant to you?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
No, he didn't understand. He didn't understand.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You know sometimes they don't understand. Well, we gotta go through,
we struggle to get and they can just Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Even even when I built my house.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I built a house in Plano, Texas, and I built
the house on residuals because I signed a really good contract.
All right, I don't want all my money.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I give it to over time a time.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
So when I told my mom, I said, you know,
I want to build your brand new house. I want
to build your house. But my mom passed. Never got
a chance to do that. So when my mom passed,
my dad came to visit. My mom passed October thirty first,
nineteen ninety four, and my dad came down for Christmas
(16:04):
that year, and we were going through these different homes
and these different designer homes, looking at different things, and
I'm like, yeah, Dad, next time you come down and visit,
I'm gonna have a house. I'm gonna have a house.
And he's like, yeah, okay, son. And so I found
this builder who made these really cool architectural homes and
I called this builder up. I said, hey, I want
(16:25):
to see some of your designs. He says, no, we
don't do designs. We do your designs. I said, I
said all right, So I go into his office. We
talked about it. I said, you know, I want to
build a white stucco house, Miami Vice style house in.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
A brick neighborhood in Plano, Texas.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Black man in Plano, Texas with a white Miamivice style right,
And he says all right. So he's like, well, what
are you thinking? So I'm drying sketching stuff out on
the onion skin paper and telling them when I'm thinking.
I love basketball. And I said, you know, if we
can come up with something that you know, can incorporate
basketball something And I said, you know, I have this
(17:09):
four foot clock, this diameter clock.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I would love to have an art and it's built
for the clock.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
And in one of these homes they had this really
cool design for the fireplace and I said, you know,
for the fireplace. I don't know what I want yet,
but I want to be able to come in and
draw it and then they could make it out.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Right. I want a home theater in it.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I want this, I want the poolah blah blah blah
blah blah blah. Right cool, So then it gives all
that design and my notes to the architect, and the
architect comes back with this beautiful elevation of the house
where the front windows actually look like a free throw
on the basketball.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Oh wow.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
The arch have the lanes where the guys are standing
before they go into to get the rebound.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Yeah, so those are what the windows look like in
the front of the house.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I know these people are like, who is this, who's
the neighbor?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
There's arches. There's arches all throughout the house.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
And then the house kind of goes up like this,
almost like a cathedral. And my my sister even said,
you built you a church, And so I had I
used to, uh, well I still do. I collect masks
right behind me, and I collect that's being masked also,
And so I had uh this this glass company, uh
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sketch into the glass, the front door sand blast the
uh comedy and drama mm. And then even the shower
wall had the thespian faces comedy and drama. Right, and
I had a home theater. Everything was beautiful.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
So I decide, I decide right to have a housewarming
party and I'm going to invite the production and some
people from corporate office to come to the house that because.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
You know, as I was going through the car, a
lot of people were part of that journey. Is I
was building the house. A lot of people's part of
that journey. Now it's like see the fruits.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Of right, they were jealous, they were Hayden. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
And then Bob's in there.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
He's like, oh, I would have done that too. I
would have done this too.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I would have done this too.
After that, I was I think I was called to
the attorney's office, like maybe every two months or something.
Somebody would come up with something. Somebody would say, David
Joyner did this. David Joyner said that I can't work
with David Joyner anymore. David Joyner is hard.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
To work with. David.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
David Joyner this and because I have such a friendly personality,
people gravitate toward me, and I gravitate toward them. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Playing on the airplane, I'm talking to a flight attendant.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Here comes Bob, you know, and trying to and the
next thing you know, I'm in the lobby with the
flight it's in it right right?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Wait, is that the reason why you left, or you
decided that good time.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
So I just knew after ten years, it's just okay.
My whole goal was to move to Los Angeles to
do acting. Right, Barney wasn't like in the picture at
that time when I had said that that statement, and
I said, Okay, I've done this for ten years. I
don't want to get locked into a costume my whole
acting career, so this is a good.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Time to move to Los Angeles. Sold the house.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I was married at the time, sold the house, moved
to LA and that's what it was. And then when
Carrie started doing Barney and the ratings started going down,
they hired me to do this nationwide campaign with the
Better Homes and Garden to try to ratings back up.
And I had joined SAG, so I couldn't do any
(20:54):
more Barney videos or anything unless I left SAG. And
I'm like, no, that was my.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Whole goal, yeah, because that's like one of the highest
things you can do within the acting world, right.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, yeah, you want to be considered legitimate, right, yeah, correct.
I couldn't even put Barney on my resume the first
couple of years I had moved to Los Angeles because
my manager says, you want people to know that you're
an actor.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, and to respect you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
And so.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
That and the fact that you know I'm trying to
make this happen. And so then they asked me if
I would train other Barney's because as I was telling
them about what I would do inside the costume, and
now it's like, okay, now we understand. Now we get it.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
They knew you was the secret sauce.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I said, But if I trained them, I need to
audition them.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I need to cast them. I need to know they
have a spiritual.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Aspect about them mm and.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Just be somebody trying to get a paycheck. Right. I
would do these training and we would do like energy
work and granted, like I would prepare myself before shooting
the show. I would run. I would lift weights the
heat of the day I'm at the track to get
my body used to heat. I would sleep under thick,
(22:04):
thick blankets. Now have a leather comforter that I sleep
under to make sure my body is adjusted to heat.
Heat is my friend, mind over matter. When I get in.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Costume, I say forty degrees, forty degrees.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I don't care how hot it is if I'm out
inside air conditioning, what doesn't matter forty degrees. And so
I started training guys to think that same way. And
then also I would say, okay, now let's breathe, let's
pull the energy from the earth, pull that energy up.
And if somebody did some kind of something or snide
remark or whatever, I'm like, all right, thank you for coming.
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Because I had Barney's Barney's live performances in other cities
and other countries. And then also they had different productions.
One in Israel had a different production and Singapore. Yeah,
so I trained those birniees.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Wow, what are some of the most outrageous rumors you heard?
Because I used to hear when I was a kid.
I remember them saying that Barney was a pedophile. I
was shocked when they say Barney was a drug dealer.
And then you even share in a documentary how your
mom called you crying hysterical because she said it's somebody
said that she was dead.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah. Yeah, Bardie had committed suicide.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
But yeah, even to this day, sometimes people say, oh,
didn't you go to jail?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I said, for what? Didn't you like molest one of
the kids.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, where did the ever wanna come from?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
No, that was Elmo, that wasn't Sorry, that's not David.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
But you know, like they talk about in the documentary,
sometimes people they would form these stories, you know, these
urban legend stories, and then they just pick up. Yeah,
and I invited people to my house. It's like, oh, no,
we're gonna hate.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, but where do you think all that negativity came from?
Because I didn't know people hated Barney that much.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, some people just well, here's the other thing. Barney
was targeted for two year olds. The two year old,
it's gonna want to see the show over and over
and over and over and over again.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Now I got to hear this music, hear the song.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But that's what kids do.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, And granted, you know you're you want you want
your child to listen to this going oh wow.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Yeah, they love it, they love it.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
But then after a while, you know, you made these
oh gosh, no, not Barney again. You go to the store,
there's all this merchandise. Child wants the merchandise. So now
you're spending all this money on Barney too. So blame
people for not feeling the love that we had for Barney.
Because we knew we were making a beautiful product. Looking
at it sometimes from a consumer point of view, where
(24:50):
they're buying this merchandise, they're having to listen to the
songs and the video, watch the videos over and over
with their kids.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
So you kind of developed this this annoying.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Kind of ah yeah, but for them to like really
come up with some dark seated stuff like the documentary,
you know, the Ji Hid of Barney or the I
Hate Barney fan clubs, and that's how a lot of
these rumors got started, you know. And then when the
Klan found out the guy in's side was black and
(25:22):
their kids were watching the show, and so you know
that's the other thing. You know, you got to deal
with not only the purple Dinosaur, but the black man
inside the purple Dinosaur. You know, I had to deal
with that. You know, the company had to take a
tolerance class. Wow.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
That was threatening to fire me because of all this
stuff that was going on. And I was like, no, no, no,
they're not liking me because of something else. And I
hired this h this labor attorney who was a member
of my church at the time, and even that was
like divine, I'm pull up in the parking lot after
this meeting, and his brother's like, brother, Jordan, how's it going.
(26:01):
I said, ah. He's like, man, you're not too happy South,
what's going on? And I told him. He's like, well,
you know, I'm a labor attorney, right I was. And
so he like, hey, next time you hear anything racist
or whatever, write it down. Write it down. Yeah. He
had all these notes so that when he talked to
the attorney, he's like bam bam bam bam bam.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
And so then everybody had to take a tolerance class.
And then one of the security guards he and I
were good friends, but he used to call me boy
all the time, and it was now he's like, hey, boy,
how's it going. I said he was, And I said,
I said, Jim, you got to stop calling me boy.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I said, my own dad doesn't call me boy. Oh,
I can call you what you want you what I
want you boy. So when he had to take tolerance class,
he refused, He's like, I'm not taking on tolerance class.
I can do whatever I want. So he got fired.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Wow hut to.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Gout to He passes away. Years later, his wife reached
out to me and she asked me if I would
speak at his funeral because she says, you know, he
was stubborn. He was from the old school, the old archie,
you know that Texas born. Yeah, you know less than
(27:23):
he said. But he loved you. And once he got fired,
he knew he had messed up. But he couldn't, you know,
come to grips to say, you know, I'm sorry or whatever. Yeah,
he says, you know, would you mind coming to the
funeral and saying a few words. M hm, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Wow, We're almost finished. But what was your relationship like
with Cheryl Leech?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Oh, Cheryl was the most sweetest, beautiful woman that you
could meet. Yeah, so much integrity, so much love. You
you really knew that you were connect with somebody who
I mean she coming up with the idea, right, and
(28:05):
it wasn't something that she just did. Of course. The
story was she wanted to help her son Patrick find
something that he could could capture his attention at a
young age.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
But Cheryl love Barney.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
She loved Barney, and Cheryl saw a lot of things
changing and I think that's when she decided to leave
and step down. And she's like, this is you guys,
aren't treating my baby like it's my baby anymore, this
corporate conglomerate kind of thing. And it's like, this isn't
what I wanted to do. But working with her, connecting
(28:41):
with her, she was a beautiful soul. L is a
light worker. Her energy is so loving to me. Yeah,
just beautiful, beautiful. I remember one time we were in Australia
and our rooms were connected.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
We're not connected, but next to each other.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Connected And all right.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Now, Barney, thatssing with the creator.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
All right. And a lot of times, Cherl, you need
a time. A lot of times I would wake up
listening to gospel music or listening to something that you know,
stimulates my spirit. And I remember we're going down and
we're doing some uh some content whatever, and she comes
up to me.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
She's like, you know, when I got off this morning.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I get hear like all this gospel music, and she said,
and I just found myself just dancing as I'm getting ready.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
She's like, thank you, David, thank you.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I said, you welcome, Cheryl, you welcome.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I really grew a soft spot for Cheryl because when
I heard about her husband comitted suicide because he had
the press.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
He was depressed. And then her son Patrick, he went
to jail for shooting his neighbor. I was like, my god,
Sharon gave everybody, one of everybody something that we can like.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Bernie was a part of my childhood imprint, so to
imagine what she went through.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I felt so bad for her. I felt so bad
for her.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, and even before that, she had to deal with
family issues from the in laws.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
M I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
A lot of people don't know the story of Barney
and Wishbone, and and how her her husband's sister's husband.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
So I guess that's.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I'm not if it's the sister, then it's the sister
in law. Right, she's married, Is that still a husband
in law?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Her father in law? Yeah, yeah, Well they always had
like a disdain for each other. Right, Dick Leech, you
know the dad who loaned the money to get the
project going. After Barney's making all this money, now he
wants to use this money for the son to fund Wishbone.
(31:01):
Barney's money. So Cheryl was like, no, you can't use
my money. I came up with ye. Right, he would
come up with all these different projects and none of them,
none of them work. None of them work, And so
they kind of had a falling out. And then when they.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Because it worked for me, doesn't mean it's gonna work
for you.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah. And then when they sold the company to Hit Entertainment,
then he got a large sum of the money also,
and so she had to deal with all that with
the infrastructure of the family too.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
So yeah, you think we deserved her looking back up
all the things you know about Barney and being a
part of her, I mean, being a part of the universe.
You think we deserve Barney and what Cheryl gave her,
our childhood deserve yea.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Yeah, yeah Cheryl. And if you really look at it
in a very loving way, Cheryl gave us a monument.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, God bless old man.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
And as a strong black man who.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Values love and to be able to walk in love,
be able to travel the world shouting love.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
I remember I was.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I was telling this close friend of mine, I said,
I just love to love, and sometimes people don't understand that.
And even when they look at me a certain way
and it's like, nah, you don't get it, bro, I love.
And if you don't understand that, then I got to
love you from a distance. Even with family members sometimes
(32:44):
they don't understand. And it's like, you know what, I
operate in peace. I walk in peace, I walk in love.
I walk in joy. I breathe smells speak love, love, love,
and I refuse to allow anybody to try to put
a cloud on that.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Yeah, Cheryl help me. Cheryl helped me live a life
of love. Yeah, so you have some monument.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, God bless your al man.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh and last, but not least, if Barney had a
message for today's world, what do you think He'll say.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Love that self, Love that self. And when you love yourself,
you walk outside loving others. Put the mirror in front
of the front door, look in the mirror and say
I love you.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Yeah, walk outside.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
You're walking outside with self love. You're not walking outside
with self hate. So you're not trying to hate. You're
trying to love, trying to shine. And then, you know,
I tell people all the time, I came up with
a sacronym I want to smell great. I want to
smell great. I want to shine my eternal love light
(34:14):
s M E L L smell shine my eternal love life.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
This has been such an honor to speak with you,
like hands down, like I am like super excited we
were able to do this and y'all.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
He also said I had great energy, so.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a light worker.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I am thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So what's next for you?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Tell everyone where we can follow you, where we can
support you when this book is coming out. If somebody
wants some massage, just.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Well, my social media is d Joiner twenty two. You know, Instagram, Facebook,
you know, hit me up. I get a lot of messages,
you know, I have a huge or Barney has a
huge autistic following, and I get a lot of messages
from the autistic community, and of course some of them
are like friends, and it's great to hear these messages.
(35:14):
And you know, sometimes you have to like okay, hold down,
slow down, slow down. But I love the fans and
I love being able to communicate with them. I wear
my Barney stuff. I started doing that after the documentary
came out. I started wearing Barney stuff again, just being.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Able to know you have so much Barney Perry, Oh
my god.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
And then you know, you know, now it's like, hey,
when you're a kid, you watch Barney growing up, you know,
that was me inside the costume, and then just the
reactions from that and taking photographs, and that is a
beautiful thing. I'm now working on another show that I
really can't tell people about yet. I'm one of the
(35:56):
co producers Doggyland, the new show Snoop Okay, yeah, yeah yeah,
and uh the show itself. It's a three D animated show.
And when we do live appearances, you know, there's a costume.
I'm not inside one of the costumes. I can't say
that anyway. Yeah, we just did a tour with kids.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Bob oh cool cool.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Yeah. And so yeah and hip hop Harry still doing
hip hop Harry.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Come now you you you book bless and busy, That's
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, I'm walking in love. Yeah, I think I'm
on television a lot, doing my thing. Just had another
just had a major audition that I turned in yesterday,
So we'll see how that that goes. But yeah, you
can find me riding around California on my Canem spider or.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Am my convertible.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Okay, enjoying life.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
I tell people I work hard so I can play harder.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Same, same, same, same, you know. One more question because
I just thought about it. How do you protect your energy?
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Oh, there's something that I call the protectives force spieled
an effective sphere. So what you do is you pretend
like you're inside a dome and you pretend that you
are able to see outside the dome.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
But others can't penetrate.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
That that don't fight them to penetrate that dome. Sometimes
we have to learn life lessons. So the spirit will
let you invite people into your space that you're going
to learn a lesson from, and.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
That lesson be a beautiful lesson.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
It may be a dark, ugly, dirty lesson, but you're
going to learn something from it to grow. And I
look at life also as we're stepping and like we
go to school, we have to study, we take the tests.
We don't always pass the tests, but we have may
take the test again, or we may have to study
harder knowing that we got another exam coming up. So
(38:03):
sometimes things happen to us in life where it's gonna
test us to see if we studied, if we've studied self,
if we allow the universe to flow with us, if
we allow the energy to flow with us. So my
thing is always staying in constant meditation. I hear people
all the time saying, you know, I find it hard
(38:24):
to like shut down my brain, to isolate myself, to
quiet my thoughts. And I tell them, I said, a
lot of times, we've been programmed to meditate wrong. How
you meditate, that's not how the world works. The world
is constantly revolving and evolving, right. We are constantly growing,
learning and understanding. So if we grow, learn and understand
(38:48):
with everything that's happening around us, then we're in constant
meditation of everything around us. So it's not about quieting,
it's about connecting, so that you connect your thoughts with
if you're trying to if you're going through something, you're
trying to figure it out, don't quiet yourself. Do something
that's going to allow you to focus on what you're doing,
(39:08):
so then you're starting to receive messages about what you
need to do. On that other situation, when you're driving
down the freeway and there's traffic and you're sitting in traffic,
don't get frustrated about the traffic. Take that time to relax.
You may be able to have a chance to look around.
You may see something that's going to be a sign
you may see a license or something on somebody's vehicle,
(39:30):
a bumper stick or whatever. That's a message that you
need to receive when you're in a relationship. Sometimes that
relationship is not working and a lot of times we
want to do this, but sometimes we got to do this. Yeah,
you have to understand that my energy is attracting this.
What am I not putting out right? That I'm attracting wrong?
(39:52):
So that also is something that you can look at.
So in protecting yourself, you're allowing yourself to be vulnerable,
you're allowing your life to shine, and you're allowing yourself
to understand that, hey, this is worth a lot, and
I will not let anyone, not even myself, lesser value
(40:15):
on it. Because when you honor your spirit, you're honoring
your peace of mind. When you're honoring your peace of mind,
you're honoring your physical flesh, spirit, mind, and body. So
you're now protecting everything by staying connected to everything.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
The creation of life.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Is always moving, always revolving, always developing, and you want
yourself to always move develop within it. When you step aside,
isolate yourself, you meditate, you're in this quiet space. You
come out of that quiet space, the world has been moving.
Now you got to catch up. Yeah, I force yourself
(40:56):
to catch up when you can move with it. When
you hear them say the athlete was in the zone.
Kobe Bryant, he was in the zone. Michael Jordan, he
was in the zone. That's meditation. When you meditate, you're
in that zone and things slow down for you, and
then you find things within that and you find these
little nuggets and these little nuances. That's then't going to
carry you in life. And that's what I love about
(41:17):
my contra business because I work with women who some
of them have been taking advantage of sexually, and some
of them have spiritual gifts. And those of us who
have spiritual gifts, our sexual energy is more active because
we've been given that gift of creation and we tapped
into that gift. When I can help someone ground that
(41:40):
energy and elevate their energy and find more value and
more purpose in their walk and their understanding of life, I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Like, not mis stay, okay, not mistay. David Joiner, everyone,
thank you so much. I really appreciate this. I really
really really do appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I can't wait for everyone to hear this, so thank
you so much for joining me on the show today.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
My plum please and pleasure sugar.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
For inviting me.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
You know yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Thank you to the listeners. If you have any comments,
I cant even get it out because I'm so happy.
If you have any comments, questions, so concerns, please make
sure to email me at hello at the PHG podcast
dot com. And until next time, everyone, Oh, we gotta
do the song, David.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
I was just gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
You ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I love me, you love me.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Happy be family with that great hug and a kiss
from me to you.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
I want you say you love me to Okay.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
You know before before you go, I played that song
in my dad's funeral, and I also played hip hop
Parry's Go Go Go at my funeral because I do comedy.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Of funerals, right, and I have a lot of lives.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
There for my dad.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
I did this game show because my dad, and this
is be quick.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
My dad taught us how to love unconditionally right, and
he loved my mom. My mom passed, then he started
dating again. He started calling me for dating advice, and
so they got married, and then she passed. And then
at seventy nine he got married again, and and so
then after six years he passed, right, And so I
did this whole game show, and I called it love Unconditionally.
(43:39):
You were taught. And you know, before you came to earth,
God gave me an envelope. Now you, before you can
transition back home, you have to open that envelope. That
envelope contains a number. That number determined how many chances
you have in this lifetime, the love unconditionally during this
in front of people at the funeral, right, So now
I'm doing all these different voices. So at the very end,
I said, Okay, now, Church, you've heard all three rounds.
(44:02):
You've heard all three relationships. If you believe in your
heart of hearts, that Roscoe Joiner loved unconditionally, shout amen.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
So everybody's like, ah, tell him what he's won, Johnny,
Roscoe Joiner, you just won an all expense paid trip
to the heavenly realms. You can now sit beside those
who have gone on before you.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Yeah, you know this guy with your smile. But more importantly,
you've taught us.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
What it means to love unconditionally. Roscoe Joiner, are you
ready to go home. Yes, I am so. I hit
the music. Go go, go, go go go.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Who's neck right?
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Oh, I'm like, my name is David Joyner. Thank you
for playing with me. Heaven's favorite love match game. Let's
all say it together. Love unconditionally, and remember to always smile.
If you find us smiling and you don't know why,
ask yourself this question. I hit the music.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
The reason we're smiling, Barnie is because of you. We've
had such an amazing day. Oh. I've had an amazing
day too with the people I love, love you, you
love me, and that the whole church is.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
The guy on the organ is.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Like he putting the right put the little sauce on it.
Oh that's amazing. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
That song means so much to me. Oh yeah, I'm
riding around l A and Mike can m has a
loud speaker system and I'll have the I Love You
song on repeat. I'm like in Hollywood, people are walking,
you know, you have a lot of tourists and they're
looking and then some of them are like, you know,
(45:41):
and they're taking pictures and I'm like, yeah, the love,
spreading the love.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
When I come to La I'm gonna come.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
And visit you, all right, all right, so you heard it?
Until next time, everyone.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
By all right.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Now, mistay.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
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Homegirl and on TikTok at Pretty Private Podcasts, as well
as on Instagram. Okay Now and part two of my
conversation with David Joyner, we dive into the reactions people
had to his tantra business that outrage just rumors he
heard about Barney, including Barney being a pedophile, and.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I asked him one question as that actually bought him
the tears and maybe kind of tear up as well.
But y'all, hiss down.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This is one of my favorite interviews today, and thank
you all so much for the incredible feedback on part one.
I knew you would all would enjoy this conversation as
much as I did, so, I mean, why not. Barney
was such a huge part of our childhood, right, So
get ready because Part two starts.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I know when David Voss hears your story, I know
he'd be like, damn, like he gotta have some feelings
towards you.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I know that you laughing.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
And you know it's funny too, because you know, in
two thousand eighteen, when this journalist did this story on
me and it came out of former Barney Now runs
of Tantric Sex Business. You know, a lot of people
that I had worked with for years, they were like,
I can't believe. And I'm like, you know, I was
doing Tontra. Yeah, I had to sign an agreement about Tontra.
I would talk about Tontra all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I feel like even now they were still shocked because
I watched the documentary I Love You, You Hate Me,
and they was like.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I just we couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Like I still don't know what I'm like, come on, y'all,
stop it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You know I don't just from meeting you, you don't
see any type of person that would hide anything about yourself.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Like what you see is what you get exactly exactly.
And then also in Tantra, they teach you to walk
in truth.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And when you walk in your walking in your love,
you're walking in your purpose, and you're walking with honoring
yourself and knowing that as you're honoring yourself and you're
walking in truth, you're radiating that. So people were then
coming to you within truth. Yeah, you're able to see
through a lot of people's bull because it's like your
spirit's telling me one thing and your mouth is saying
the other. Yeah, stressed with the spirits telling me.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, facts fax facts.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And I feel like because of that, you had such
a good relationship with Bob West, which I'll even create
this term called Dino sinc. And when people would say
that Bob was the heart of it, heart of Barney,
but you was the soul of Barney.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, yep. Bob and I had a beautiful relationship.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Until when what's the tea?
Speaker 6 (06:24):
I knew?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So what's the tea?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
David?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
All Right?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So when I was working for Texas Instruments after graduating
it T T Tech, I was driving. I love cars,
So I was driving this Triumph t R seven that
I had bought in Indiana, and it was this whole
deal about My father was like, hey, you don't you
(06:49):
never want to buy a car from somebody's yard, blah
blah blah blah blah. So I bought this car.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
And the engine kept.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Messing up.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
I had to get the engine fixed.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
When I got my job at Texas Instruments, you know,
it was over the phone, and so my car was
in the shop and I had to wait for the
car to get out of the shop to didn't drive
to Dallas. On my way to Dallas, the car blows
up again. And so then later on I go home
(07:20):
to pick up the car, now making enough money to
put it in the shop.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
And so.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I know this story is crazy.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
So my dad comes to visit one time and we're
driving down the freeway and the car didn't have air
conditioning and you're in Dallas, Texas, where it's hot, hot, hot,
and you had these little fans, and then the car
breaks down again with my dad in it. So he's like, boy,
I told you how to buy this car, and I
told you to buy this car right. And so then
(07:54):
I bought this Mazda RX seven right. Loved Masa. When
I was in school. Good friend of mine, Tommy Mayberry,
his dad got him this Masa r X seven and
rotor engine, and so I didn't want to copy him.
So I was like, hey, man, now tell me he's
you know, he's driving this three hundred z and I said,
hey man, think about getting this Masa. He's like, yeah, man,
(08:15):
you're gonna love it. Man, you're gonna love it. So
I buy the Mazda right. So nineteen ninety three they
came out with a third generation Maza RX seven. I
wanted that.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Car so bad, don't tell me, Bob.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
When I was working at Texas Instruments, I even had
a poster of like this Mitsubishi three thousand gts and
I loved and my supervisors like, You're never gonna get a.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Car like that.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I was like, what do you mean? You're never gonna
get a car like that? So I was all right.
So when that Masa came out, I'm like, dang, I'm
getting that car. I go to even an auto show
and money falls out of my pocket in the car,
and I was like, down payment, yep, that's I would
come home from the clubs one of the dealerships had
(09:03):
one of them on the rack. I'd be laying on
the ground, looking at the body underneath the car, looking
at the shocks, looking at the struss, looking at the system,
the suspension system, all that falling asleep, birds chirping five
o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
So I'm gonna get this car.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I hadn't built up enough credit to make a purchase
of that amount because the car was thirty grand. So
I had this auto broker trying to put me like
this Toyota Mr.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Two and I'm like, no, no, no, I want this R.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Seven. So now, long story short, because it's got to
get longer. A good friend of mine who used to
come to a lot of my performances was the vice
president of this Toyota dealership, and he's always talking me about,
you know, I can put you in the Toyota the
new super comes out. He wants me to get in
the super and I'm like no, no, no, no, alright seven.
And I said, I have this broker looking for me,
but he says, my credit, I can't get it. He's like, well,
(10:01):
come by the office. Let's look at your credit. Let's
see what we can do. Go by this office. And
you know, he was like one of the major guys
who would come to my performances because I had developed
this following sometimes I do Fredis Stare, Michael Jackson, Prince
and people just thought loved my variety. And so I
go to his office and then he calls a friend
of his who works at a mas the dealership. He's like, hey,
(10:24):
you remember Barney. You know Barney. He's like, I got
Barney the Dinosaur in my office and he's looking for
a MAS seven.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I think you can help him out.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
So he's like, yeah, we're on speaker for him. He said,
tell me what you want. I said, well, I want
to black masa tan interior, the leather package, the touring package,
sun roof. He's like, well, I don't have one here
at the dealership, but I can find you one. I
might quarter it. He says, you know, when it comes in,
i'll let you know. I says, all right, I said,
but in the meantime, I'll come down. I'll sign some autographs,
(10:57):
you know, bring somebody, don't cut Two two weeks later,
I get the call. He's like, hey, Dave, we got
your car. We're gonna go pick it up. Blah blah blah.
You come down and so my I'm trading in. I'm
gonna trade in my old T I mean my R
seven and I had a mechanic because at RX seven
is you have to have a special mechanic to work
on those RX sevens. It's the engine. So he's doing
(11:21):
some work on my car so I can then get
it inspected and then take it and trade it in.
I go pick up the car, and I'm run test
driving the car, and I go down to get money
out to ATM. I'm driving back to his shop. This
big Friedo lay truck in front of me. The tail
lights are dirty. It slams on its brakes. I damn,
I hit the Freedo lay truck.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And so I was like, oh no.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
And so I called him up and said, Shannon, walk outside,
look down the street. He's like, what happened?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
So he's able to, you know, maneuver the engine so
that I can still drive the car.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
And I had the the.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Sports bra on the front, so the sports bra was
hiding all the defects. But now I can't trade.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
The car in.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Wow, I don't have a down Pavid. So Shannon's like,
I'll buy the car from you. I'll buy it and
fix it up or sold the parts. He's like, because
he knew he could sell those parts a lot. What
the car is worth?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
All right?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Cool? So go get the car right, driving the car,
loving the car. I show up at the set. Everybody's like,
you got the car? You got the car? Said yes,
They're all excited for me, they're all happy. Yes, this
was May twenty May twenty fifth, nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Right, So.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I go to Shannon's shop because I bought this alarm
that it's like if you walk close to the car,
it's like security, please step away, security, please step away.
And when you look, when you turn the alarm on,
it's like the arm and then when it releases, alarm deactivated.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yes, so old school, all right.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I remember that Bob took me. Bob gave me a
ride to go to Shannon's to get pick up my
car after the alarm and everything was put on, and.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Then he's like, ohow, this is cool. Cool.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
So now he's talking to Shannon about rotary engines and
all this and all that, and Shannon's like, yeah, rotary
engines is only three parts. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Cut to.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
We have a week off in August, we come back.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
To the studio.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Bob got him a car.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
There's a rare one parked in my spot and I'm like, oh,
and you didn't see there was like maybe two or
three of them in Dallas at that time. And it
was like, who who got a red arc seventh and
why is it parked at my spot. I go inside.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Damn Bob runs up to me. He's like, hey, Dave,
did you see my new car? I said, that's your car.
He's like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
And I was like, Wow, you knew what it took
for me to get this car. You knew how much
I wanted this car. You knew what I had to
go through in the hoops I had to go through
as I get this car, and you just decide, Oh,
I'm gonna go ahead one just like it. I was
so mad.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I was so mad. Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
In hindsight, you're like, you know, it's just a car, right,
But everything that took place with the tr seven, my.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Dad and with him, it was just like nothing.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yeah, they are seven trading it in and then wrecking
it and all that stuff falling asleep under the car.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
It's like all this stuff and then you just gonna
go get one.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Just I was like, oh, man, what's up, y'all?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
Did he ever apologized or did he even understand what
that meant to you?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
No, he didn't understand. He didn't understand.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
You know sometimes they don't understand. Well, we gotta go through,
we struggle to get and they can just Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Even even when I built my house.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I built a house in Plano, Texas, and I built
the house on residuals because I signed a really good contract.
All right, I don't want all my money.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I give it to over time a time.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
So when I told my mom, I said, you know,
I want to build your brand new house. I want
to build your house. But my mom passed. Never got
a chance to do that. So when my mom passed,
my dad came to visit. My mom passed October thirty first,
nineteen ninety four, and my dad came down for Christmas
(16:04):
that year, and we were going through these different homes
and these different designer homes, looking at different things, and
I'm like, yeah, Dad, next time you come down and visit,
I'm gonna have a house. I'm gonna have a house.
And he's like, yeah, okay, son. And so I found
this builder who made these really cool architectural homes and
I called this builder up. I said, hey, I want
(16:25):
to see some of your designs. He says, no, we
don't do designs. We do your designs. I said, I
said all right, So I go into his office. We
talked about it. I said, you know, I want to
build a white stucco house, Miami Vice style house in.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
A brick neighborhood in Plano, Texas.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Black man in Plano, Texas with a white Miamivice style right,
And he says all right. So he's like, well, what
are you thinking? So I'm drying sketching stuff out on
the onion skin paper and telling them when I'm thinking.
I love basketball. And I said, you know, if we
can come up with something that you know, can incorporate
basketball something And I said, you know, I have this
(17:09):
four foot clock, this diameter clock.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I would love to have an art and it's built
for the clock.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
And in one of these homes they had this really
cool design for the fireplace and I said, you know,
for the fireplace. I don't know what I want yet,
but I want to be able to come in and
draw it and then they could make it out.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Right. I want a home theater in it.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I want this, I want the poolah blah blah blah
blah blah blah. Right cool, So then it gives all
that design and my notes to the architect, and the
architect comes back with this beautiful elevation of the house
where the front windows actually look like a free throw
on the basketball.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Oh wow.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
The arch have the lanes where the guys are standing
before they go into to get the rebound.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Yeah, so those are what the windows look like in
the front of the house.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I know these people are like, who is this, who's
the neighbor?
Speaker 6 (18:01):
There's arches. There's arches all throughout the house.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
And then the house kind of goes up like this,
almost like a cathedral. And my my sister even said,
you built you a church, And so I had I
used to, uh, well I still do. I collect masks
right behind me, and I collect that's being masked also,
And so I had uh this this glass company, uh
(18:26):
sketch into the glass, the front door sand blast the
uh comedy and drama mm. And then even the shower
wall had the thespian faces comedy and drama. Right, and
I had a home theater. Everything was beautiful.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
So I decide, I decide right to have a housewarming
party and I'm going to invite the production and some
people from corporate office to come to the house that because.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
You know, as I was going through the car, a
lot of people were part of that journey. Is I
was building the house. A lot of people's part of
that journey. Now it's like see the fruits.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Of right, they were jealous, they were Hayden. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
And then Bob's in there.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
He's like, oh, I would have done that too. I
would have done this too.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I would have done this too.
After that, I was I think I was called to
the attorney's office, like maybe every two months or something.
Somebody would come up with something. Somebody would say, David
Joyner did this. David Joyner said that I can't work
with David Joyner anymore. David Joyner is hard.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
To work with. David.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
David Joyner this and because I have such a friendly personality,
people gravitate toward me, and I gravitate toward them. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Playing on the airplane, I'm talking to a flight attendant.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Here comes Bob, you know, and trying to and the
next thing you know, I'm in the lobby with the
flight it's in it right right?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Wait, is that the reason why you left, or you
decided that good time.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
So I just knew after ten years, it's just okay.
My whole goal was to move to Los Angeles to
do acting. Right, Barney wasn't like in the picture at
that time when I had said that that statement, and
I said, Okay, I've done this for ten years. I
don't want to get locked into a costume my whole
acting career, so this is a good.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Time to move to Los Angeles. Sold the house.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I was married at the time, sold the house, moved
to LA and that's what it was. And then when
Carrie started doing Barney and the ratings started going down,
they hired me to do this nationwide campaign with the
Better Homes and Garden to try to ratings back up.
And I had joined SAG, so I couldn't do any
(20:54):
more Barney videos or anything unless I left SAG. And
I'm like, no, that was my.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Whole goal, yeah, because that's like one of the highest
things you can do within the acting world, right.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, yeah, you want to be considered legitimate, right, yeah, correct.
I couldn't even put Barney on my resume the first
couple of years I had moved to Los Angeles because
my manager says, you want people to know that you're
an actor.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, and to respect you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
And so.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
That and the fact that you know I'm trying to
make this happen. And so then they asked me if
I would train other Barney's because as I was telling
them about what I would do inside the costume, and
now it's like, okay, now we understand. Now we get it.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
They knew you was the secret sauce.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I said, But if I trained them, I need to
audition them.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I need to cast them. I need to know they
have a spiritual.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Aspect about them mm and.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Just be somebody trying to get a paycheck. Right. I
would do these training and we would do like energy
work and granted, like I would prepare myself before shooting
the show. I would run. I would lift weights the
heat of the day I'm at the track to get
my body used to heat. I would sleep under thick,
(22:04):
thick blankets. Now have a leather comforter that I sleep
under to make sure my body is adjusted to heat.
Heat is my friend, mind over matter. When I get in.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Costume, I say forty degrees, forty degrees.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I don't care how hot it is if I'm out
inside air conditioning, what doesn't matter forty degrees. And so
I started training guys to think that same way. And
then also I would say, okay, now let's breathe, let's
pull the energy from the earth, pull that energy up.
And if somebody did some kind of something or snide
remark or whatever, I'm like, all right, thank you for coming.
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Because I had Barney's Barney's live performances in other cities
and other countries. And then also they had different productions.
One in Israel had a different production and Singapore. Yeah,
so I trained those birniees.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Wow, what are some of the most outrageous rumors you heard?
Because I used to hear when I was a kid.
I remember them saying that Barney was a pedophile. I
was shocked when they say Barney was a drug dealer.
And then you even share in a documentary how your
mom called you crying hysterical because she said it's somebody
said that she was dead.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah. Yeah, Bardie had committed suicide.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
But yeah, even to this day, sometimes people say, oh,
didn't you go to jail?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I said, for what? Didn't you like molest one of
the kids.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, where did the ever wanna come from?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
No, that was Elmo, that wasn't Sorry, that's not David.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
But you know, like they talk about in the documentary,
sometimes people they would form these stories, you know, these
urban legend stories, and then they just pick up. Yeah,
and I invited people to my house. It's like, oh, no,
we're gonna hate.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, but where do you think all that negativity came from?
Because I didn't know people hated Barney that much.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Yeah, some people just well, here's the other thing. Barney
was targeted for two year olds. The two year old,
it's gonna want to see the show over and over
and over and over and over again.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Now I got to hear this music, hear the song.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But that's what kids do.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yeah, And granted, you know you're you want you want
your child to listen to this going oh wow.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Yeah, they love it, they love it.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
But then after a while, you know, you made these
oh gosh, no, not Barney again. You go to the store,
there's all this merchandise. Child wants the merchandise. So now
you're spending all this money on Barney too. So blame
people for not feeling the love that we had for Barney.
Because we knew we were making a beautiful product. Looking
at it sometimes from a consumer point of view, where
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they're buying this merchandise, they're having to listen to the
songs and the video, watch the videos over and over
with their kids.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
So you kind of developed this this annoying.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Kind of ah yeah, but for them to like really
come up with some dark seated stuff like the documentary,
you know, the Ji Hid of Barney or the I
Hate Barney fan clubs, and that's how a lot of
these rumors got started, you know. And then when the
Klan found out the guy in's side was black and
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their kids were watching the show, and so you know
that's the other thing. You know, you got to deal
with not only the purple Dinosaur, but the black man
inside the purple Dinosaur. You know, I had to deal
with that. You know, the company had to take a
tolerance class. Wow.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
That was threatening to fire me because of all this
stuff that was going on. And I was like, no, no, no,
they're not liking me because of something else. And I
hired this h this labor attorney who was a member
of my church at the time, and even that was
like divine, I'm pull up in the parking lot after
this meeting, and his brother's like, brother, Jordan, how's it going.
(26:01):
I said, ah. He's like, man, you're not too happy South,
what's going on? And I told him. He's like, well,
you know, I'm a labor attorney, right I was. And
so he like, hey, next time you hear anything racist
or whatever, write it down. Write it down. Yeah. He
had all these notes so that when he talked to
the attorney, he's like bam bam bam bam bam.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
And so then everybody had to take a tolerance class.
And then one of the security guards he and I
were good friends, but he used to call me boy
all the time, and it was now he's like, hey, boy,
how's it going. I said he was, And I said,
I said, Jim, you got to stop calling me boy.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I said, my own dad doesn't call me boy. Oh,
I can call you what you want you what I
want you boy. So when he had to take tolerance class,
he refused, He's like, I'm not taking on tolerance class.
I can do whatever I want. So he got fired.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Wow hut to.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Gout to He passes away. Years later, his wife reached
out to me and she asked me if I would
speak at his funeral because she says, you know, he
was stubborn. He was from the old school, the old archie,
you know that Texas born. Yeah, you know less than
(27:23):
he said. But he loved you. And once he got fired,
he knew he had messed up. But he couldn't, you know,
come to grips to say, you know, I'm sorry or whatever. Yeah,
he says, you know, would you mind coming to the
funeral and saying a few words. M hm, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Wow, We're almost finished. But what was your relationship like
with Cheryl Leech?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Oh, Cheryl was the most sweetest, beautiful woman that you
could meet. Yeah, so much integrity, so much love. You
you really knew that you were connect with somebody who
I mean she coming up with the idea, right, and
(28:05):
it wasn't something that she just did. Of course. The
story was she wanted to help her son Patrick find
something that he could could capture his attention at a
young age.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
But Cheryl love Barney.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
She loved Barney, and Cheryl saw a lot of things
changing and I think that's when she decided to leave
and step down. And she's like, this is you guys,
aren't treating my baby like it's my baby anymore, this
corporate conglomerate kind of thing. And it's like, this isn't
what I wanted to do. But working with her, connecting
(28:41):
with her, she was a beautiful soul. L is a
light worker. Her energy is so loving to me. Yeah,
just beautiful, beautiful. I remember one time we were in Australia
and our rooms were connected.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
We're not connected, but next to each other.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Connected And all right.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Now, Barney, thatssing with the creator.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
All right. And a lot of times, Cherl, you need
a time. A lot of times I would wake up
listening to gospel music or listening to something that you know,
stimulates my spirit. And I remember we're going down and
we're doing some uh some content whatever, and she comes
up to me.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
She's like, you know, when I got off this morning.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I get hear like all this gospel music, and she said,
and I just found myself just dancing as I'm getting ready.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
She's like, thank you, David, thank you.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I said, you welcome, Cheryl, you welcome.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I really grew a soft spot for Cheryl because when
I heard about her husband comitted suicide because he had
the press.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
He was depressed. And then her son Patrick, he went
to jail for shooting his neighbor. I was like, my god,
Sharon gave everybody, one of everybody something that we can like.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Bernie was a part of my childhood imprint, so to
imagine what she went through.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I felt so bad for her. I felt so bad
for her.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, and even before that, she had to deal with
family issues from the in laws.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
M I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
A lot of people don't know the story of Barney
and Wishbone, and and how her her husband's sister's husband.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
So I guess that's.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I'm not if it's the sister, then it's the sister
in law. Right, she's married, Is that still a husband
in law?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Her father in law? Yeah, yeah, Well they always had
like a disdain for each other. Right, Dick Leech, you
know the dad who loaned the money to get the
project going. After Barney's making all this money, now he
wants to use this money for the son to fund Wishbone.
(31:01):
Barney's money. So Cheryl was like, no, you can't use
my money. I came up with ye. Right, he would
come up with all these different projects and none of them,
none of them work. None of them work, And so
they kind of had a falling out. And then when they.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Because it worked for me, doesn't mean it's gonna work
for you.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah. And then when they sold the company to Hit Entertainment,
then he got a large sum of the money also,
and so she had to deal with all that with
the infrastructure of the family too.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
So yeah, you think we deserved her looking back up
all the things you know about Barney and being a
part of her, I mean, being a part of the universe.
You think we deserve Barney and what Cheryl gave her,
our childhood deserve yea.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Yeah, yeah Cheryl. And if you really look at it
in a very loving way, Cheryl gave us a monument.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, God bless old man.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
And as a strong black man who.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Values love and to be able to walk in love,
be able to travel the world shouting love.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
I remember I was.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I was telling this close friend of mine, I said,
I just love to love, and sometimes people don't understand that.
And even when they look at me a certain way
and it's like, nah, you don't get it, bro, I love.
And if you don't understand that, then I got to
love you from a distance. Even with family members sometimes
(32:44):
they don't understand. And it's like, you know what, I
operate in peace. I walk in peace, I walk in love.
I walk in joy. I breathe smells speak love, love, love,
and I refuse to allow anybody to try to put
a cloud on that.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Yeah, Cheryl help me. Cheryl helped me live a life
of love. Yeah, so you have some monument.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, God bless your al man.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh and last, but not least, if Barney had a
message for today's world, what do you think He'll say.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Love that self, Love that self. And when you love yourself,
you walk outside loving others. Put the mirror in front
of the front door, look in the mirror and say
I love you.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Yeah, walk outside.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
You're walking outside with self love. You're not walking outside
with self hate. So you're not trying to hate. You're
trying to love, trying to shine. And then, you know,
I tell people all the time, I came up with
a sacronym I want to smell great. I want to
smell great. I want to shine my eternal love light
(34:14):
s M E L L smell shine my eternal love life.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
This has been such an honor to speak with you,
like hands down, like I am like super excited we
were able to do this and y'all.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
He also said I had great energy, so.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a light worker.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I am thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So what's next for you?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Tell everyone where we can follow you, where we can
support you when this book is coming out. If somebody
wants some massage, just.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Well, my social media is d Joiner twenty two. You know, Instagram, Facebook,
you know, hit me up. I get a lot of messages,
you know, I have a huge or Barney has a
huge autistic following, and I get a lot of messages
from the autistic community, and of course some of them
are like friends, and it's great to hear these messages.
(35:14):
And you know, sometimes you have to like okay, hold down,
slow down, slow down. But I love the fans and
I love being able to communicate with them. I wear
my Barney stuff. I started doing that after the documentary
came out. I started wearing Barney stuff again, just being.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Able to know you have so much Barney Perry, Oh
my god.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
And then you know, you know, now it's like, hey,
when you're a kid, you watch Barney growing up, you know,
that was me inside the costume, and then just the
reactions from that and taking photographs, and that is a
beautiful thing. I'm now working on another show that I
really can't tell people about yet. I'm one of the
(35:56):
co producers Doggyland, the new show Snoop Okay, yeah, yeah yeah,
and uh the show itself. It's a three D animated show.
And when we do live appearances, you know, there's a costume.
I'm not inside one of the costumes. I can't say
that anyway. Yeah, we just did a tour with kids.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Bob oh cool cool.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Yeah. And so yeah and hip hop Harry still doing
hip hop Harry.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Come now you you you book bless and busy, That's
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, I'm walking in love. Yeah, I think I'm
on television a lot, doing my thing. Just had another
just had a major audition that I turned in yesterday,
So we'll see how that that goes. But yeah, you
can find me riding around California on my Canem spider or.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Am my convertible.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Okay, enjoying life.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
I tell people I work hard so I can play harder.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Same, same, same, same, you know. One more question because
I just thought about it. How do you protect your energy?
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Oh, there's something that I call the protectives force spieled
an effective sphere. So what you do is you pretend
like you're inside a dome and you pretend that you
are able to see outside the dome.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
But others can't penetrate.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
That that don't fight them to penetrate that dome. Sometimes
we have to learn life lessons. So the spirit will
let you invite people into your space that you're going
to learn a lesson from, and.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
That lesson be a beautiful lesson.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
It may be a dark, ugly, dirty lesson, but you're
going to learn something from it to grow. And I
look at life also as we're stepping and like we
go to school, we have to study, we take the tests.
We don't always pass the tests, but we have may
take the test again, or we may have to study
harder knowing that we got another exam coming up. So
(38:03):
sometimes things happen to us in life where it's gonna
test us to see if we studied, if we've studied self,
if we allow the universe to flow with us, if
we allow the energy to flow with us. So my
thing is always staying in constant meditation. I hear people
all the time saying, you know, I find it hard
(38:24):
to like shut down my brain, to isolate myself, to
quiet my thoughts. And I tell them, I said, a
lot of times, we've been programmed to meditate wrong. How
you meditate, that's not how the world works. The world
is constantly revolving and evolving, right. We are constantly growing,
learning and understanding. So if we grow, learn and understand
(38:48):
with everything that's happening around us, then we're in constant
meditation of everything around us. So it's not about quieting,
it's about connecting, so that you connect your thoughts with
if you're trying to if you're going through something, you're
trying to figure it out, don't quiet yourself. Do something
that's going to allow you to focus on what you're doing,
(39:08):
so then you're starting to receive messages about what you
need to do. On that other situation, when you're driving
down the freeway and there's traffic and you're sitting in traffic,
don't get frustrated about the traffic. Take that time to relax.
You may be able to have a chance to look around.
You may see something that's going to be a sign
you may see a license or something on somebody's vehicle,
(39:30):
a bumper stick or whatever. That's a message that you
need to receive when you're in a relationship. Sometimes that
relationship is not working and a lot of times we
want to do this, but sometimes we got to do this. Yeah,
you have to understand that my energy is attracting this.
What am I not putting out right? That I'm attracting wrong?
(39:52):
So that also is something that you can look at.
So in protecting yourself, you're allowing yourself to be vulnerable,
you're allowing your life to shine, and you're allowing yourself
to understand that, hey, this is worth a lot, and
I will not let anyone, not even myself, lesser value
(40:15):
on it. Because when you honor your spirit, you're honoring
your peace of mind. When you're honoring your peace of mind,
you're honoring your physical flesh, spirit, mind, and body. So
you're now protecting everything by staying connected to everything.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
The creation of life.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Is always moving, always revolving, always developing, and you want
yourself to always move develop within it. When you step aside,
isolate yourself, you meditate, you're in this quiet space. You
come out of that quiet space, the world has been moving.
Now you got to catch up. Yeah, I force yourself
(40:56):
to catch up when you can move with it. When
you hear them say the athlete was in the zone.
Kobe Bryant, he was in the zone. Michael Jordan, he
was in the zone. That's meditation. When you meditate, you're
in that zone and things slow down for you, and
then you find things within that and you find these
little nuggets and these little nuances. That's then't going to
carry you in life. And that's what I love about
(41:17):
my contra business because I work with women who some
of them have been taking advantage of sexually, and some
of them have spiritual gifts. And those of us who
have spiritual gifts, our sexual energy is more active because
we've been given that gift of creation and we tapped
into that gift. When I can help someone ground that
(41:40):
energy and elevate their energy and find more value and
more purpose in their walk and their understanding of life, I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Like, not mis stay, okay, not mistay. David Joiner, everyone,
thank you so much. I really appreciate this. I really
really really do appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I can't wait for everyone to hear this, so thank
you so much for joining me on the show today.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
My plum please and pleasure sugar.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
For inviting me.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
You know yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Thank you to the listeners. If you have any comments,
I cant even get it out because I'm so happy.
If you have any comments, questions, so concerns, please make
sure to email me at hello at the PHG podcast
dot com. And until next time, everyone, Oh, we gotta
do the song, David.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
I was just gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
You ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I love me, you love me.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Happy be family with that great hug and a kiss
from me to you.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
I want you say you love me to Okay.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
You know before before you go, I played that song
in my dad's funeral, and I also played hip hop
Parry's Go Go Go at my funeral because I do comedy.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Of funerals, right, and I have a lot of lives.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
There for my dad.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
I did this game show because my dad, and this
is be quick.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
My dad taught us how to love unconditionally right, and
he loved my mom. My mom passed, then he started
dating again. He started calling me for dating advice, and
so they got married, and then she passed. And then
at seventy nine he got married again, and and so
then after six years he passed, right, And so I
did this whole game show, and I called it love Unconditionally.
(43:39):
You were taught. And you know, before you came to earth,
God gave me an envelope. Now you, before you can
transition back home, you have to open that envelope. That
envelope contains a number. That number determined how many chances
you have in this lifetime, the love unconditionally during this
in front of people at the funeral, right, So now
I'm doing all these different voices. So at the very end,
I said, Okay, now, Church, you've heard all three rounds.
(44:02):
You've heard all three relationships. If you believe in your
heart of hearts, that Roscoe Joiner loved unconditionally, shout amen.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
So everybody's like, ah, tell him what he's won, Johnny,
Roscoe Joiner, you just won an all expense paid trip
to the heavenly realms. You can now sit beside those
who have gone on before you.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
Yeah, you know this guy with your smile. But more importantly,
you've taught us.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
What it means to love unconditionally. Roscoe Joiner, are you
ready to go home. Yes, I am so. I hit
the music. Go go, go, go go go.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Who's neck right?
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Oh, I'm like, my name is David Joyner. Thank you
for playing with me. Heaven's favorite love match game. Let's
all say it together. Love unconditionally, and remember to always smile.
If you find us smiling and you don't know why,
ask yourself this question. I hit the music.
Speaker 6 (44:53):
The reason we're smiling, Barnie is because of you. We've
had such an amazing day. Oh. I've had an amazing
day too with the people I love, love you, you
love me, and that the whole church is.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
The guy on the organ is.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Like he putting the right put the little sauce on it.
Oh that's amazing. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
That song means so much to me. Oh yeah, I'm
riding around l A and Mike can m has a
loud speaker system and I'll have the I Love You
song on repeat. I'm like in Hollywood, people are walking,
you know, you have a lot of tourists and they're
looking and then some of them are like, you know,
(45:41):
and they're taking pictures and I'm like, yeah, the love,
spreading the love.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
When I come to La I'm gonna come.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
And visit you, all right, all right, so you heard it?
Until next time, everyone.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
By all right.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
Now, mistay.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
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