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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Podcast with Jonathan Bennett James on I Heart Radio.
Hello everybody, and welcome to a very special episode of Pridecast.
This part out because I want to get to this
your weekly dose of love, laughter, and hopefully a little
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bit of inspiration and reminder to be proud of who
you are. Hey, who's proud of who they are? Oh
my gosh, is that a live studio audience, James, Do
we have a live studio audience taping podcast. Yes. We
are joined right now by all of our outbounders on
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our inaugural trip. Inaugural inaugural trip for outbound travel our
l g B t Q plus Travel adventure company. We
are here with our outbounders on our very first trip
and we said, hey, we got to do our podcast,
and they said, well, we'll do it with you. So
hello everybody. Yeah, we're in the lounge at the front
of the ship currently cruising down the Dua River, which
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if you don't know what that is, it is the
river that goes up to Portugal. It's absolutely stunning, takes
us up to Spain. John Barrowman, superstar actor over here,
is making sense a strange gesture. It goes John Barrowman,
TV Star, Broadway, Legend, west End Dream and also geography,
geography and grammar teach our teacher. Yes, so that's good
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and also gay so well, sodast And you're holding a
plate of something? What are you holding a plate up
here in the lounge of Outbound yesterday when we went
to Salamanca? Um we Uh, I've been Spain many times
and something to eat at breakfast time is a madeleine. Okay.
It's like kind of a cross between a sugary pound
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cake with vanilla and it's just a lot of deliciousness.
So I got four. I know there's like eighty people here,
but we can we can be in you know exactly. Yeah,
well we'll cut them up, okay, but they're delicious. And now,
so we're here on Outbounds on an outbound trip, which
is basically a boat full of people who are excited
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to travel the world with people that are lgbt Q
plus and check off their bucket lists together. John, what
have you seen on this trip so far? I've seen
nothing but uh, family and that that is the one thing.
And you know, yeah, and we use the hashtag hashtag
I am outbound. Everybody here feels inclusive. Everybody here feels
like they're having fun. Everybody feels part of everything I have.
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Don't think I've eaten dinner with a you know, the
same person, uh twice. Um. We've tried to, you know,
go out and do the excursions. Some people make it,
some people don't. Because also we have a great time
at night. Everybody lets their hair down. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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it'll soak up the booze sitting. That's great. Also, you're
you're you're new people, you're meeting new friends, but you're
seeing part of the world you've probably never seen before
in a way that you've never seen it before. And
my I just say to you guys, great job on
doing the hosting, but also the crew and the staff
of the boating. John is saying that as they're about
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to fill up his next drink, so obviously he's trying
to get that heavy pore. I see what's going on here.
That was that was our whole reason for starting this though. John.
It's like we honestly, even with like podcasts, it's about
creating a space where we can all celebrate who we are.
That's that's the point of this right and become exactly
as you are because who you are is perfect and
that's been what we want everybody on and outbound experience
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to feel. And I feel like that that's what's happening, right, James.
I just got crying to my mom for fifteen minutes
on the phone, Cody jumping in, why are you here?
Because yeah, I mean, it's just it's been a beautiful
experience and to meet so many people from so many
different places. I'm gonna starting, you know, because this is
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been everything that I've wanted and more and I can't
thank everybody here enough. We're just making me feel h seen. Yeah,
we love you, Laps. The one thing that I know, Cody.
It's been a great experience from It's been a great
experience for everybody. But the one thing that we were
discussing last night. When we go to do other things
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than other vacations with other people, we always adapt, we
adapt to the situation. But here we can be our authentic,
true selves and not have to worry about adapting. So brilliant. Yeah,
and we're here with cow Cal. Where are you from Tuscaloosa, Alabama? Here? Well, Dodd,
I'm from Tuscaloosa, Ella. I am now cal Cal is
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Kel has been one of the stars of the ship.
Let me tell you where everyone loves col what's one
of the things that you've done on this trip that
you've really liked or what tell us some things that
have so Jonathan to me, one of the most amazing
experiences was getting to climb to the top of the
Salamanca Cathedral. That was phenomenal. I mean we were in
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yes and the views. We got to climb the cat
walk all the way into the belfry and watch the
bells ring, and it was phenomenal. Here's the thing, how
only you would call it a cat walk like you
would turn into a ram cat walk. I didn't know
if it's called the cat walk. What's it called John
Barrowman stair. Yes, you did wear your heel and your
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heels in your wig and you went right up that
bell tower. And yes you did cliang client client with
the bell. We can talk about the wigs and heels.
So we've had a lot of theme nights on here, right,
because it's all about fun. Last night was our wigs
and Wine night. Tell them how the wigs and Wine
night originated? Where you got so all right, So wigs
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and Wine Night originated back home in Palm Springs. We
have Drag Race viewing parties at John Barrowman's house, and
so we go over there and we watch Drag Race
each week, well one week because you were in Lakaj
and in the West End. But I also had two
friends over who were in Lakaj with me, but they
also dragged. Basically, so a bunch of people that do
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really good drag. We're like, hey, let's all do drag
for this episode with me and Jonathan, who have not
done drag before, and decided to do drag with them
for that all right listening. I've always thought that, like,
I'm gonna be this fierce queen if I ever do it,
like I'm gonna be stunning, I'm gonna be like a
real housewife, and I'm gonna kill it, all right. So
finally we put it on at John's house. He had
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these cute little dresses, gorgeous wigs, and these heels. I
cannot walk in heels to save my life, Like I
can't even stand in them. A fall over, and I
was the exact opposite of what I thought I was
gonna be. So I wanted to redeem myself from that evening.
That hurt my feelings so much because I wanted to
be flawless and all I was was flaws and James
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and drag looks like a semi truck driver linebacker slipping
on the floor of a restaurant a matter truck stop.
But that's what he looks. But I think we can
fast forward to last night and correct me if I'm wrong.
Ladies and gentlemen, what I learned was you have to
find who you are, and who I am was a
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country girl, so we got rid of the shoes, and
of course, you know, I'll find any excuse to wear
a short short and I had this gorgeous, glamorous wig
that Jackie Cox told me how to keep perfect when
I got to where I was going. And y'all, I
think I did good last night. Hey, hey, and a
tube top baby. If you want to see pictures of
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James and short shorts with his butt out and in
a tube top, you can go to my instagram. I
think I attacked him, so go check out my instagram. James,
you found out who you were last There was some
que looks. By the way. We got a shout out
Christian over there because you were Christian Christians currently and
how fun it was. Yeah, it was just honestly, like
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so liberating to get so much fun and like I
put on wigs and just like be free. I think
we all found the different versions of ourselves and it
was it was most fun I've ever had and I
think ever honestly last night actual dance night. It was
so much fun, a beautiful experience. And this is how
great the staff wasn't that dress? So here's what happened.
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Sonja are one of our lovely cruise directors on board.
She had a dress and Christian said, I don't have
a dress to wear, and Sonya says, I think I
have when you can wear. And he looked at her
and goes will it fit? And she eyed him up
and down and she goes, oh, it'll fit, and so
he glove. Go to Outbounds Instagram. There's a story highlight
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in slow motion you're studying Christian like beyond beautiful. It
was gorgeous. We absolutely love all of our outbounders collapse
for Christian. We have so much fun on our trips.
If you want to check us out, go to iron
outbound dot com. Come outbound with us because it is
a family of eighty one people, eighty one soul on
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this boat that are all so beautiful. We've all become
so connected and we are now a family, and we're
gonna just continue traveling the world together, seeing the world.
And we want you guys to come with us, so
please come be part of the Outbound family. We've been
here eight Lisbon Pride after this, by the way, you
guys were taking everybody with us to Lisbon Pride. We're
all staying at the same place and we're experiencing Lisbon
Pride together, which I'm so excited about because I feel
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like things have only jest. But I don't know, John,
they have just becus making a weird face of me
because I do strange gestures sometime when I talk. So
right now, there's no video elements of this week's episode,
but I have Yeah, he looks you look like Jesus
Christ on the cross right now, arms out right now,
stretching out in my shirt because I don't know why
this is what I do. We thank you. We love
all of our Outbounders. We love everybody on here. And yes, John, okay,
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I'm gonna chase to Madeleine. I've never had a Madelene
before I'm gonna try the made lane. We love you. Wait,
all right, what we're trying this, Madelene? Okay, now now
now mind you. What's really cool about these experiences, though,
was we charted the entire ships, so this whole thing
is ours. We've taken over the entire thing. We do
this every time so we can completely control the experiences,
so we can't wigs in wine night and have a
blast and be absolutely ourselves. All right, I'm buying into
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this thing. Hang on, I'm Madeleine is amazing. He's gonna
do the thing where he tries to be Brad Pitt
and I'm not trying to be Brad Pitt. I'm trying
to eat some more this though. Jonathan hayes when I
eat on camera or on microphones because he thinks he
eats like Brad Pitt, you know, like Brad Pitt eats
anything and it's sexy. James tries to do the same thing.
You can stop it at sexy. Ye Okay, it's just gross.
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What do you guys think? Is this? No? No? No, yes, yes, yes,
thank you very much, thank you, Happy pride everybody. We
love all of our outbounders. So much. We want you
to come and join us. We love being on this
boat with all these beautiful people. We love our community.
We love our lgbt Q plus community. Speaking of people
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in the community, we have someone amazing up right now
on the show. We have comedian Sensation, the one and
only Matteo Lane, one of the funniest people. Mateo Lane
is joining us right after this break, we have Matteo
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Lane with us comedic legend singer Painter, one of the
funniest people I've ever met in my entire life. Mateo,
Welcome to Pridecast. Oh thank you. I'm so happy to
be here. We're so pumped. You're seriously one of the
funniest people we know. You're that person that like, we
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see you and we get excited because everything you say
is funny, whether you mean for it to be or not.
It's the way he talks. Yeah, we were just talking
your inflection. Like we just said before we started the podcast,
I said, you were in Italy and you were cooking
in in your friend's apartment in Rome, and I would
watch you cook spaghetti all night long because it's just
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it's cathartic and it's hilarious. At the same time, I
don't know how to explain it. Thanks, Yeah, I don't know.
I I feel like, um, now, I can't even tell
if I've been so trained by stand up to like
it's just like kind of like innately in me, the
way I talk, like the patterns in which I talk
or people. I don't know, but I appreciate all the compliments.
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I'm a little jet lagged and full of pastas, so
I don't quite I don't quite feel um quite feel
the compliments. But yes, that's the title of this episode,
jet lagged and full of pasta. That literally thank you. Um.
And I can't believe his name was Pasta. Um, but
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who names there kid Pasta? Um? Honestly, if there was
an Italian and his name was Pasta, like, alright, fine,
let's just let's just get married. It's done, it's over. Wait,
so kid, James, and I quote you all the time
and I have no because your stand up is so funny.
If you guys aren't following the tail Lane on Instagram,
go follow him because you do these amazing little set
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up one minute clips from your sets when you're doing
stand up and you put and you post them and
they're so accurate because your observational humor is so funny.
We say this all the time and we quote you.
If there is one gay working at a Starbucks, everything
gets done. If there are two gays, nothing gets done.
It's so true. Explain it for everyone, because you do
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it better than I do, because it's so accurate. I
was when I used to live in the Upper East Side.
I used to go to the Starbucks and I start,
for those who don't know, Starbucks in New York are
really like the equivalent of like, you know, the t
s A. If it's sold coffee. I mean, it's just chaos.
And I would go to the Starbucks every day just
to get a shot of expressed before my shows. And
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there was this gay guy that worked there and he
was always like the most efficient, Like you'd walk in
and he was running it like it was a military
like moving let's go one at a time. No, wait
your turn, I'm not doing this. We need extra sprep
you know, just like so into it. And one day
I walked in and there was two gays and it
was like nothing was getting done. Like they're giggling, they're laughing,
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they're making drinks for themselves. We're all just standing in line,
like are we gonna take this abuse? And then it's
like hit me. I was like, why isn't that like
any gay event. If there's more than one gay involved,
like it's just a catastrophe because they're just spilling tea
to each other and and talking about everyone in line.
But if there's one, everything gets done because it's a
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nice coffee because we're ice coffee games, Like I have
a nice coffee and I and I get my ship
done that day that I need done. You know, I'm
not a nice coffee I'm the only game that's not
a nice coffee game. I'm a hot espresso gay. I mean, well,
you kind of are a hottest you are kind of
you are kind of a hot espresso espresso. Not I'm
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cooked at the right temperature because Americans always overcooked their espresso.
Then it's bitter. But that's just another but so am
I so that. And if you don't follow Matteo on
his social media's for his comedy, follow him for his
body because he has got body Audi audi and he
is serving it every single week on on Instagram. It's
one of the things we look forward to mostly in
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our week is what's Matteo going to post this week?
You get a little bit of everything you do, you
give a riety, you get laughs, and you get fired. Yeah. Absolutely,
and lots of desperation. So please come down, Come down.
Instagram Raymond Raymond our producer, Raymond who is our mateo?
This is Raymond Raymond is our gen Z Leaning producers.
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So we have someone to check us to what the
kids are saying. So, Raymond, are you a nice coffee gay?
Not you're not a nice coffee? Gate when kids drink? Well,
right now, we're making homemade soda with bosamic vinegar and
sprinkling water. Please tell you that's a joke. Please tell
me that's a joke. No. Just it just went viral
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on TikTok this weekend and it's like everyone's all the age.
This is what the kids, this is what the kids
are doing, mateo. Isn't it great We have a person
for what the kids are doing and it can tell
you what's going on in the world. Yeah, it's just
seems like a lot. I feel like kids are trying
to do things more difficult, like, you know, rather than
just purchasing soda, They're like, we're gonna make our own
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with bal sound like vinegar. I'm like, just say your
board yeah. And also, um, quarantine's over, so you can't
use the excuse that you know it was quarantine had
nothing to do like or my house. Now you're just
flat out board. See TikTok. I I I'll post a
video on Instagram and then I immediately posted on TikTok,
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but TikTok I walk away from I don't look at TikTok.
So I don't even know how to work TikTok besides
posting a video because it seems like it would suck
me in so bad that I just I'm like, I
only have one addiction in his fortnite, so that's it.
I can't get involved with TikTok. And the thing is
TikTok like the stuff that goes viral on Instagram from
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your page, like something does really well, you're like, oh,
this will do well on TikTok. You post it, it's
like four likes, like it just has no rhymor reason
to it. I mean there is, it's just I'm too
old to figure it out like it does it to
it And TikTok definitely excus younger because um, for the
times that like I've had a video blow up on TikTok,
I'll be like, oh, what are people are? What are
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they what they're saying? And the they're way more combative
and way more critical and way meaner on TikTok than
they are Instagram. Like on TikTok, you you could walk
on stage and be like I love water and there
will be five comments about people going on about like
there isn't enough. Let me read a comment actually to
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pace and this is a segment we like to call
comments from matail lanes. TikTok. I made a video about
carbon ar, right, so I'm cooking spaghetti all carbon so
you use just the egg yolks. This girl writes, I'm
glad to see a comedian cooking delicious carbonar, but my
heart ached when I saw you throwing egg whites away.
Two egg whites by the way. I know I'm not
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in a position to lecture in your life, which she's
doing right now, but you must consider, or you must
consider to please keep the egg whites separately in a
bowl and give it away to someone who might need it. No, yes, privileged,
affluent people might might not be bothered about the food wasted.
But by the way, I'm living in a one bedroom
in New York. I'm real, real affluent, but the food
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wastes and millions go to see without getting food. You
imagine me in New York City taking two egg whites
and putting them in a bowl, walking down six flights
of stairs and walking up to someone on the street.
It looks like I've got coming a cup and I'm like, here,
enjoy I mean a psycho, a psychotic person. I want
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to write back to this person, be like, you look
at your phone too much. That's what the problem is.
And Dad's TikTok in a nutshell, I blame him, not
blaming you. Framing or what you could have made. You
could have used that egg white to make a really
nice moisturizing face mask. Oh god, I have I have
grinder for that. And also it's just too much. I'm like,
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what are we doing with this? This is ridiculous. I'm
not saying she doesn't have a point. She could have
distarbed like, hey, make sure to save the egg whites
next time. That's a good idea. But to this whole
everything now is about speeches, you know what I mean?
Everything has to have some it's I noticed that you
the affluent when they don't. I'm like, all right, storm,
let's relife. It's like shut up, you know, wait, is
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this part of your new stand up? See now it's
just so ridiculous, Like I can't something. I just came
back from Italy and there's sole the opposite of we.
I think it's because they're living next to ruins that
are three thousand years old, and they're like, you know what,
like we've been here before, we're all gonna die. Let's
just have a cigarette and enjoy life in America, where
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like did you just say that? You know? It's like
all right, Yeah, it's perspective because they're like we civilizations
have come and gone multiple times. And I think it's
definitely like I am very much, like, very liberal, and
I think these types of conversations are really really important.
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But it is funny when it bleeds into ridiculous areas
like the cooking pasta on Instagram. Someone found a problem, Yeah,
found a problem with problems. Yep. Oh my god, I
love it so much. No, I want to ask you this,
when did you know you were funny? I know that's
a dumb question, but I know, I want to know.
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It's like, that's the question I get the most because
you're one of the people. I don't want to ask
that to every comedian, but you're the person I want
to ask you too, because it's so you're just so
inherently funny, Like how do you know that that that? Like,
when did you realize, oh, I should do stand up? Well,
I don't think I knew, you know, as a as
a kid, we didn't see gay men do stand up,
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so I didn't know it was offered to us. I
just I didn't have that. I didn't see gay people.
That's why I have that joke, like I didn't see
gay people on TV, so I saw see three feel like,
I just didn't. It didn't exist to us. We didn't
also have the means to find gay people, like we
didn't have YouTuber, Instagram and you know, in a old
chat rooms when I was thirteen. But that's like a nightmare.
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Do you remember his name? Do you remember your screen
name from your World job Nopoly nine eight six? Mine
was checked and what was your name? Mine was he boy? Okay,
well you yeah, it was. It was it was three
E S and it was he because it was like
a thing between Like all my friends and I had
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the skating rank, and so we all had he in
our names. Um, but yeah, that that name. Going into
the chat rooms exploring who I was was a very
interesting go on. Well I also stoking chat rooms and
pretend I was Britney Spears, and people would sometimes believe
you you know what I mean, like I'm Britney Spears,
Like no, you're not, Like, yes I am. And it
was just such a different type. But there was the
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wild wild West, wasn't it. But but I grew up
next to my my cousins and my aunt's You know,
I'm funny because of my family. I I know a
lot of comedians say that, but I actually do think
it's true. I think that my family is, if not
as funny, way funnier than me. My aunt Cindy, my
cousin Mega, my cousin Kelly, my nana, like I just
have a We just communicated through humor. So everything was
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about one upping each other and we all grow next
to each other. Um. You know, my my mom's family
is Italian and Mexicans, so it's very common to have
a ton of family constantly. You're sort of raised by
a community as opposed to just two parents, and um,
that was in every night you would just have dinner
with at least fifteen people and you'd have to one
up each other. And you know, and I only realize
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that now because I look back and I'll see my
aunt Cindy telling a story and I'm like, oh, that's
where I got it from, like the same patterns in
which I speak, how you press things using voices, like
it's it's all derivative of my my, my family. But
then all like you know, like when I saw Joan
Kathy Griffin when I was or Margaret Show or Ellen,
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like you know, that was like the first insight so
that I loved comedy. Um, And but Joan Rivers was
the one who like changed it all. I was twenty
one and I saw her on some Bravo special ironically
called Before Melissa Pulls the Plug, and yeah, she it was.
That's when I was like, it was like definitive. I
was like, oh, that's what I want to do. And
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but then getting into stand up is also weird because
there's no clear path and you kind of have to
find comedians and it was wild, but I stuck to
it well I mean it paid off. I think about that,
like not to try to get deep on this, but
I'm gonna try real quick. So you talk about how
like we didn't see anybody doing this stuff, so we
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didn't know we could do it right, and now like,
thank god, the kids do have it everywhere. They do
have it on TikTok and these spaces. They see so
many queer people doing so many great things. Maybe that's
where the whole like now I'm going to find a
problem comes from because they don't feel like they got
to fight to have it, because they're like, oh, I
can have it. I see it, so let me fight
with you about your eggs. I think that's like a
generational thing. I think every generation looks at the generation
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before and is better, right, you know what I mean,
they're like or the next one coming, and it's like,
well we didn't have it that. He's like, that's just everyone,
I think. I think what's really good about it is that,
you know, I think a lot of really um conservative
straight people who seem to be in a lot of
fear about like there's too many non binary trends and
everyone's queer, and it's like no, I think now everyone
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like how we said we finally saw gay people and
knew that's what we were. I think because of individuality
being celebrated and people being able to speak their voices
on things like social media, people can finally see themselves
and say, oh, that's what I am, or that's what
I relate to, or or I don't want to label
or you know. So, I think the expression of individuality
is a really great thing that's come from social media.
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But then the downside is you know you're getting yelled
at for a throwing away an eggway, yeah, battles right right,
I know what. I think that's what it is. I
think people are not picking their battles correctly. Yes, yes,
are you? I get so many? Give us all these notes,
have so many notes? Are you? Are you on tour
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right now? You're going on tour? You're going on a
comedy tour? Right I'm on tour. I am currently My
entire house is such a mess because I'm redecorating, but
in two weeks it will look beautiful. Um. But tour
to a comedian means every weekend, I'm in a new city,
so I'm in New York. Generally speaking like um, the
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like the Sunday to Thursday, and then a Thursday to Saturday,
I'm gone, so like I'll be in a new city.
So yeah, I mean that's what touring is. So basically
from this day on to the end of December, every weekend,
I'll be in a new city. And where can people
go and find out where you're gonna be because if
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you're if you're in their city, it's a it's a run,
don't walk situation. Run to wherever Matao is. Get tickets.
We're gonna un push old people up. Uh. Matail Lane
Comedy dot com has all my tickets and stuff. I'm
looking at it right now everywhere. I mean, And what
an original name for a website, right, matail Lane Comedy
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because they took my tail Lane, so I had tail
Lane Comedy. And that's the new division of Magnolia. I
think Mateo Lane it's like decorations, like house decorations come
into Mateo Lane. Um, that's where they sell it. I
think that's a totally different shure you just described baby.
Oh okay, what do you mean? Okay? Good? I'd everyone
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miss that. Somebody listening though, did not miss it. And
let's keep it moving. Work Okay, right now, where are
you Ye, we're in Palm Springs Springs. Oh, that's it.
I've never been to Palm Springs. Then come, I know
i've never been. That's another show. I'm that's well, that's
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the only fans um I Uh, yeah, I've never The
one thing with touring and this life that I have
as a comedian is I'm like completely sort of removed
from um, a lot of social queer events. So I like,
I've never been to Fire Island. I went once for
twelve hours and it was raining and um, so I've
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never had that experience on Fire Island or pet Town.
I've done because I've done shows there and I love
pe Town. It's amazing. Uh. But yeah, I've never been
to the where are you guys? What's it called again?
Springs Springs, Sing Springs. I never. I don't go to parties.
Like sometimes I feel a little sad for myself, Like,
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oh man, I wish. It's hard to like be constantly
touring and working and then also try and find time
to like go party or have fun or relax. You know, No,
it's exhausting. But the thing is you're like I feel
like you're like us like we love what we do,
so we'd rather be working than like out at a party.
Like our rush and our joy comes from like doing
what we love. Yeah, I mean I think I'm definitely
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in terms of like socialability, Like I I'm rewarded through
comedy at the Comedy Cellar because it's a it's a
social hang and a work hang. So I'm hanging with
other comedians and you know, I as strange as it sounds,
I'd rather sit with a bunch of comedians like Keith
Robinson who's barely alive, and sit and chat with him
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all night. It's like it's very stimulating, it's intellectually so
I really enjoy it. No, have you always been out
in your comedy? Like, like have you always? Has it
always been based in like you're gay? I know you
talked about your brother being gay, like being out in
I don't want to say out in comedy. Have you
started Did you start your career out of the closet
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or do is it something you had to like make
a decision to do? No, I mean I have gay voice.
It was really I couldn't. There's no way I could
walk on stage and like so my girlfriend, like there
was no humanly possible way anyone would ever buy it.
But in no way that kind of helped me because
I stuck out and I know a lot of comedians
who are still closeted and haven't come out yet, And uh,
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I wonder, you know, for me, comedy is so much
about vulnerability and being really honest with yourself, and sometimes
you feel like when someone's closet you can feel the
sort of resentment for the audience because I think the
audience picks up there hiding something. But I think we're
moving into a day and age where you know, every
like everyone's being celebrated for who they are, or people
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are less afraid, and that that part of life. But
I didn't have, let's say, the quote unquote luxury of
being able to be in the closet. I mean, I
just was such a faggot, like there's no way to
hide it. But your voice is like one of the
most magical parts about you, because it's what makes so
much what you say so funny, and it's also your
voice when you sing the man. If y'all have not
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seen him, I'm saying, holy cow, it's like the best
little surprise in his stand up show because it's phenomenal
how many octaves you got, because you're seeing the girl
parts of the boy parts in between parts, like you're
seeing all the parts. Today, I can hit about three
notes because my allergies are so bad, but I I
have a large range. I used to sing bass when
I sang opera, so that means as you're sing really
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low and which people don't believe that I'm a base,
but but you know, like that kind of like yeah, yeah,
but because my vocal course was so long, my voice teacher,
because I whistled tones. My voice teacher was like, oh,
I think that's what's creating those high notes. Is the
actual low part of your register is pinching, So that's
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what makes you be able to do whistle tones. Oh
So Mariah Carrie, who is your idol? Right? Is I
love Maria Carrie? Is is really a base. That's how
she she her natural speaking her what are they called?
Like her natural voice is low, Like if you hear
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her in interviews, she's very much high blah blah blah,
you know, like she's got a really really low voice.
So I think she probably has something similar where it's
like her vocal cords must be very long. She's got
a five active range, so you know, being able to
get the ways up there the way she does. Yes,
she probably has probably the same thing. Have you met her? Yes?
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I did. What was um, it is exactly what I
thought it would be like. She was well lit and
kind of nervous. But but no, I did this. I
used to spend this MTV show called Girl Code and
Guy Code, and I always talked about Mariah. And then
the producers of that show, we're doing another show for
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MTV called Fans Meet Their Idols, but it's in an elevator,
so they surprise fans that elevated or opens and there's there,
you know whatever, back to your boys. Whoever. So they
brought me in and it was Mariah. So it's not
an elevator with Mariah for about fifteen minutes and she
could not have been nicer, and we're wondering and beautiful
and um she's sang whistletone and we all saying, always
be my baby together. Oh my gosh. She was. When
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she was doing New Year's even Times Square, I was
hosting it, which which one the one? Alright, So I
was me. I was hosting near Zeve and we have
like my trailer set up like right off where all
the stars have to like walk by to to go
to their trailers, because mine's like right at the entrance
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and there's a a few back and Mariah carry. I
knew it was a huge Mean Girls fan because Lacy
Shavert had done a movie with her. I knew she
was a big Mean Girls fan, and I wanted to
meet her so bad, and she probably was very excited
to meet you. No, no, it didn't happen because I
embarrassed myself so bad. She's walking by and we goes Jonathan,
here she comes, here she comes, and I go, I
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opened up the door to my trailer and I see
her walk by with all these people, and I just go, Mariah, Mariah,
it's Jonathan from Me Girls, Mean Girls, Lazy Shabart says hello,
Like I just tried to name as many buzzwords to
try to get her to turn and like couldn't give
a ship because but it wasn't that she couldn't give
a probably didn't hear me because she was surrounded by
her whole model of like security. It was just like
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you know, not paying attention and just got rushed by.
But I'm over here going like Mariah, it's me, it's me. Aaron.
Samuel's like just so embarrassing and just ignored me and
walked by, and then the whole crowd had just turned
and looked at me, and I like slowly shut by,
and then she's a huge me girls. I know she
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just didn't hear me, But it was a very funny
moment because I'm like, Okay, I will say for Mariah
at that time, it wasn't a great time in her life,
and she was very poorly managed by this nightmare of
a woman, and I think she took advantage of Mariah.
And I think Mariah had some let's just say, interesting
people in her life at that time. And uh, she's
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since she seems so healthy and clear minded now and
like really happy and her voice sounds so good. But
at that time I actually defend Mariah for would that
look on her face when she knows that the sound
isn't working. That's the look of a professional who's been
doing this for a really long time, who doesn't want
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to put up with, at this high stake of a moment,
any kind of incompetence. And I get it, like her
just walking around being like whatever. This was a number
one hit. Also, like I get it. I've been in that.
I've been in that place where like you're tired, you're
running around, you've been getting ready all day and you
set up and no one else can do their job,
but you I get I totally get it. It's high
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stake moments for performers, and I think non performers don't
get that. And so those nerves, you know what I mean.
Like one thing that pisces me off a lot is
like like especially the comedy seller Um sometimes I'll right
right before I go on stage, someone coming from the
bathroom or something. They'll recognize me and they can see
I'm getting ready to go on stage. I have my
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notes in front of me. They're saying the next comedian
coming to the stage, like it should be very obvious.
I'm going to the stage. Oh my god, Matello, Oh
my god. So can we try and get a photo together?
And I it's like really makes me mad because it's
like so disrespectful, like I'm literally about to walk on
stage and like there's a fiery rage inside of me.
I'm like, please don't ruin this energy. Yeah, you're because
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because it's because you're vulnerable. You're in a state of vulnerability,
and you're sitting there like ready to go on, and
you have an emotion emotions going through you that most
people don't experience, and so no one can understand that
unless you're a performer that does this. Um, I'm so
sorry I did that to you, Matteo. I won't do
it again. Oh my gosh, very excited to see you.
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This is Pridecast, Matteo, and we like to talk about
moments in gay history because in order to for us
to know where we're going, we have to always remember
where we came from. So it's time now for our
segment this week in gay history. James, what happened this
week in gay history? Who is a good one? I
like this. I'm gonna give a little pop quiz that
so if y'all get this right. So this week a
gay history and President Barack Obama announced the designation of
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the first National Monument to Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender rights.
Do you know what that national monument is? Susan Boyle close?
I mean she she should be right. What was it
Billy the tennis player? Or was it the stonewall ding
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ding Ding? I thought Matay was going to get this
as in New Yorker. Yeah, it's Stonewall, the Stonewall National
Monumented Compasses, Christopher Park, the Stonewall and and the surrounding
streets and sidewalks that were the sites of the nineteen
sixty nine Stone Wall uprising, which we all know was
the birth of the modern day prize? Is the is
my birthday? J oh hey, look at that cancer Canada
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and the death of Judy Garland. My mother was really
trying for a child. Do you want to hear what's
even weirder? Get When's when's Judy Garland's birthday? Uh, that's
a great question. I actually I can tell you June tenth.
Why because we have the same birthday. So your birthday
is Judy Garland's death day and my birthday is Julie
Garland's birthday. Happy birthday. This is the gayest episode we've
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ever done officially, so that's that's great fun facts. You know,
Judy Garland was born Francis Ethel Gum. Yes, she was
the Gum Sisters. They were on vaudeville and her mother
beat the ship out of them to get on stage
and perform. And uh, she was like two years old.
She had to sing and dance and go on the road. Jeez,
poor baby. What let's let's just get a lot of
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fun facts from our producer here. That was one of
the fun facts on my list. So as you guys
switched to Judy, I was like, Oh, Raymond's got me covered.
Here's some Judy facts. This is podcast. And pride means
something different to everybody. So mateo Lane, what does pride
mean to you? Um? Probably being able to just express
myself freely, Okay, you know, I mean small thing. I
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think I think pride. I think we think really big
on pride, and I think that can sometimes be overwhelming
for people, and I think thinking smaller sometimes is also
really beneficial. So even small things that you can do
for yourself. You like dressing a certain way, if you
like a certain style of music, if you like your
hair a certain way. You know, being able to have
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being able to see yourself and express yourself the way
you want is also just a small form of having provide.
It doesn't always have to be like I'm on the
top of a float and I'm in front of thousands
of people and I'm posting every single day. You know,
you never know what's going to affect someone's life outside
of your own. And yeah, just you can be real small.
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Love that. Hey, speaking of pride, and I think the
best community on the face of the earth are LGBTQ
plus community. What is the best part for you about
being part of our community? The best part about being
queer being able to have a mustache? Non ironically, Jesus
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mateo lane for the wind that come on, man, I
can't imagine you without the mustache. When did the mustache start? Like,
were you born with I was, I was seven, I
don't I don't know, I don't remember. I've had this
mustache forever and now I don't even know what I
looked like without it. But I'm really quite comfortable with it.
I really enjoyed my mustache. It's it's your identity, like
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you have to keep it suits you like. Mustaches are
cute on certain guys, and yours is really cute on
so it's very super Mario Brothers too. Very I also
have a very Mediterranean face, you know what I mean,
So I think the mustache fits well with like my sloping,
like heavy eyelids that drooped down my face. This is
very not Poltano like, dark eyebrows, like my Roman nose,
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like it's a very Mediterranean shoved on my head. So
I think the mustache goes well with it. We think
everything about you is perfect, and we think everything about
you it's hilarious. So if you want to go see
matayl Lane on tour, go to Matay Lane Comedy dot com.
He's gonna be on tour now until the end of December.
Come into a city near you. Matail Lane, thank you
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so so so so much for joining us here on podcast. Yeah,
thanks for having me. It's nice to talk to you. Guys.
Go clean up your clean up. I know it is.
I'm waiting for a delivery. It's a whole thing. And
if you see your Starbucks ice coffee person, please tell
him that he's part of our He's now part of
our speak every day we talked about it. Okay, Well,
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if I ever go back to the Upper East Side,
which hopefully I don't have to, hopefully he's moved on
to a new job by now, you know, well, you know,
those benefits are pretty good. It's got that benefits. He
seems really stressed out. I think he needs a new job,
you know. He's probably a general in the military right now.
Do you do you know where I would want to
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work if I wasn't an actor. Magnolia Magnolia Bakery cupcakes
on the in the East Village or the West Village,
because the people that just sit there and frost the cupcakes,
zero stress, zero stress. They're just like, yeah, man, what
you want? Like they just put the frosting on and
that's the day, and it's so magical and relaxing and
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they're never going to die of a heart attack. That's
very telling you how busy you are. Because Whitney Houston
did an interview with Oprah and she said, at one point,
I just wanted to give it up and go sell
bottled water on Fiji. And I was like, I get it,
Like I get get I get it. You're so like,
you know, I woke up today and I have fifteen
things to do already. I'm like, how is my day over?
I haven't even made my coffee yet. Okay, go make
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your coffee. And Matailane, we love you, thank for being
on Proadcast. Before we go, we want to shine our
big gay spotlight on someone doing amazing things in the
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l g B T Q plus community this week. So, James,
who is our big gay spotlight this week? You know,
maybe I had a big list of people to choose
from this week. I gotta list. I'm working through, right,
But oh man, I just I'm so impressed by this person.
This is a friend of ours. So this is a
little personal this week. I'm shying my big gay spotlight
on Brandon Wolf. A lot of you know who he is.
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He was actually at Paulse nightclubs six years ago with
his friends when the attack happened and he lost several
of them. But I have heard him say so many
times his beautiful phrase he says. He says, honor them
with action. And so one of the things that he
did for his friend Drew that he lost that night
is create the Drew Project along with some of Drew's
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other friends. Now, the Drew Project creates scholarships for queer kids.
They put together g s, a curriculums, they do so
much stuff. I think they've given like a hundred and
fifty thou dollars and scholarships or something by now. And
in addition to that, he is also on the ground
in Florida, which you know, we need people there he
is doing the work that needs to be done to
help queer kids, but he is also all over the place,
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including even at the White House, advocating for gun control.
He really uses every single platform that he has to
do good. Absolutely adore this man. We love him so much.
So Brandon Wolf. This week my big gay spotlight goes
on you, buddy. Thank you, thank you, thank you for
being you.