Rap Radar: 2 Chainz

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Raperate Our Podcast. Aliah Wilson, my name is Brian B.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Dot Miller.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Man, you get a.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Full government, man, that's how you're feeling. Man, that's how
you're feeling right now. Gotta say the whole thing like
a tryp cool question, man. Queens Man, Queen's in the building, Man,
so be ben within a home stretch man, our final episodes.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Man, how you feeling?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Then we're getting down to the home stretch.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's the final countdown.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I can't believe it. Man. Once they got us back
in the scenes, they can't get rid of us.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Man, absolutely, Man, make sure y'all stick around though. For
that Queen Naje episode that's available right now.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Right now, thank you to the Queen for blessing us. Man.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm real proud of when we do stuff like that, Man,
like what ging them on a on their Victoria one
and then we'll do like thirty eight spash or Geechee Gotti.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Man, we got to show them the range. Man.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Nobody got the range that we do with these rap
Ariate Our Podcast episodes.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Man, I like to think so, but you know, it's
also about why right now, like timely, it always has
to make sense as to why now you know, so
thirty eight special might have made since you know, a
year ago, but today he does, and so does Queen Naga.
So shout to her, shout to after the butterflies, make
sure y'all stream that, or she says, go buy it.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
She wants you to copy. Man, make sure you go
to get that dust off your iTunes account. Man, get
to buy some CDs man fifty cents counting man say
he keeps track of all those things, little sales.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's hard to remember.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
That was passwords man.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
But speaking of which man, I was looking at the
landscape man, and then we was like, wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know, obviously it'd be great to have you know,
Collie Grove a little way and two changs together, but
you know, two changs to me on his own is
the story too. And then I know with these collegegirl projects,
he really knows. He's really kind of to me the
engine mind putting those things together. So I was like, yo,
beat out, what do you think about us going down
to the atl and checking our old friend to change man? Absolutely,
you know, it's been like five years since we last

(01:40):
talked to him, but she was like, it was yesterday.
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yeah, And and a lot has happened since then, right,
So you got the new Collige Grove project was Little Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
He just opened up a new strip club, you know,
the strip club.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
We was in there, man first, Is that the first
rapp ord or podcast of the strip club?

Speaker 5 (01:56):
I think it has been. Man, We've done Arenas, We've
done hell copters. Now we can say we get a strip.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, for the record, there were no strippers dancing at
the time. You know, I'm a married man, but you
know it was Candy Land man, his lovely established videos
gotten off the ground. It's a new establishment, right for
mister two chains.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah, you know, he's a budding hospitality and entrepreneur already
has the restaurant and tap his escobar. So now he's
expanding his reach into the gentleman's nightlife space. And he's
called us onto it too, man Like. There were some
things about that scene and I didn't know, Like, you
can't just open up a strip club and you have
to be grandfathered in. So it was definitely an educational

(02:38):
process for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
And again slut when it comes to the music, man,
you know, I've heard about this project coming together for
a while now, but I had My change is patience man,
to go through the pols into the game, you know
what I mean? And like and that record doesn't sound
like it's old. It sounds timely.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
There's some really good singles on there, you know, Oprah
and Gale with Benny the Butcher I guy on there. Like,
there's some really good ship on there. Like, so I
really salute to Chains for you know, persevering. And now
he's he's in a damn rap group a little Wayne man,
it's official facts.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
You know what's funny is like I honestly didn't think
it was gonna happen because it's been like almost seven
years since the last project. Yeah, and you know, sometimes
things just kind of fall by the wayside. But you know,
like you said, they delivered a really solid effort and
Ppa is one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
We had a nice conversation about that.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, you're gonna break that acronym down, man, you know,
connect to connects to the episode of this this one
right here boy crazy absolutely will b.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
I got a question, man, what happened to your Twitter?
But you got hacked? Man, they're trying to get you
for this year. En listabit. These people try to get you.
What happened, man, that's the Russians. Man, I don't know
what happened.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
I woke up one day and all of a sudden,
my emails told me someone was in my account and.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
They changed it.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
But you know, luckily, I know a guy that knows
the guy, and uh, you know we we we're restored order.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
So we're back. Okay, we're back in business. Man.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I was worried out there, but I feel like the
rappers got on you, man. They're worried about that that
year en list man. They tried to get an early peak.
They trying to get her peaking to see what you
got in the list.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
It was gonna make the cut. Man, it's almost the
sapper man.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Listen, we don't negotiate with terrorists, but coming out real soon.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
So stand by.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
The wrap, roll the weights, man. What I'm saying, also
the rapper all the waits. After this's two chased, when
we got one more to go right by season two.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Finale, we'll keep that at the tuck for now, we'll
keep that at the tuck.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's a good one.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
It's a good one. I don't think anybody's gonna see
it coming. I will say that.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think it's the fact when we didn't even know
it was gonna come, you know, pause or whatever to
Cameron to make safe, but uh, you know it was time, man,
And it's not Cameron to make sorry spoiler alert.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's not Canon. May working on that but not yet.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
So now it's definitely a really good finale that we
already got the can. We'll talk about it next week, man. Yeah,
Season two has been amazing season. We appreciate everybody's support,
you know, listening to the audio, watching the video on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Man, we appreciate y'all.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know, the podcast space is hectic, man, But we
continue to you know, leave our own market in the game,
and we can't do it without y'all.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
So we appreciate y'all.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Appreciate the people absolutely, we have to. Man, without them,
there is no us. So with that being said, sit back,
listen to to Change to podcasts. Yeah, yo's rap arateof podcasts.
My name is beat Ott Elliott, Wilson Elliott. We're here
in candy Land.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Is it the PPA once no board game?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
That's for damn sure, Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's back.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Finally to Change Changes man, Thank you, man, I appreciate
you been a.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
Minute man since we chopped it up on this platform.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Man, good to see you, brother, Good to see you too.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Both of y'all change. Man, you're a serial entrepreneur. Where
are we at? Candyland?

Speaker 4 (05:41):
You Candyland?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Heard you bought this for your birthday?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Right? Yeah? Yeah? The reason I said that because, yeah,
the money that I would have used to buy watch
our car, use it to help me get this piece
of you know, property, which is which? And it was
around my birthday. So that's why it went out like that,
but it was it was the truth. One of my

(06:05):
friends called me from prison and he was like, you know, Tony,
you know, he was watching my page, like what you get?
What you get yourself for your birthday? Man? You know,
I'm you know I'm gonna buy something right and uh man,
ain't see you posting that on your page anybody, now,
I said, Man, I can't. I was just I can't
tell you man, I'm about to get something like tell me.
I'm just And I'm just one of those people who

(06:27):
I don't like to talk about things until you know
it's it's it's it's it's closed. Everything The ink is dry,
so you know the process, you know, it just takes
time to do, you know, basically anything these days. And
it took a while. And in my mind, it was
supposed to be open around my birthday and I was

(06:47):
gonna you know, and it just didn't happen that way,
and that's how God and said it fit. But it
ended up happening and we're here now and I'm one
of the I'm not gonna say black. I'm use myself
as like an artist or entrepreneur. I mean an artist
or uh a rapper, but I don't like to call

(07:09):
myself a rapper anymore. But someone in that space that
owns something like this and own it right to have
some ownership and something like this because they don't sell
strip clubs anymore. You have to have this. This ain't
about who got the most money and all of that stuff.
Even though I'm doing well in that to part, I
don't want to act like somebody in Atlanta is not doing.
You know, this is a city where people are flourishing,

(07:31):
and if and if it was possible, it would be
strip clubs on every corner like liquor stores. Because we
have it like that. It's just a situation where you
have to it was this is our relationship driven. It's
just like what I'm teaching my kids right there, Like
money is cool, but you know, timing and knowing people
being in the right place, you know, you get at
least you get an opportunity. And that's what I was given,

(07:53):
an opportunity and I capitalized on it.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, because the whole strip club think is so much
a part of Atlantic culture, right, Yeah, like what's grew
up in it?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
And yes, but do you.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
Have to claim ownership in it? The challenges of that?
Was that always something in your mind that you wanted
to try to achieve.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, so that's that's that's another part. You have it
in your mind, but it's not possible here. I mean,
like legally not possible to open up a strip club.
It has to be something that's existing. Someone has to
have to have a permit and you have to negotiate
that with the person that holds a piece of paper

(08:28):
that's no longer. I mean, you can't get it anymore.
They don't print this twenty dollars bill or this whatever
piece of paper anymore, you know what I mean. And
so that's where I talk about relationships. Being in the
right place at the right time to be able to
try to negotiate something with someone that has something so valuable.
So you have to be grandfathered in absolutely. Wow, yeah,
you have to do that. So and it's still things

(08:49):
getting changed over because because of that process.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Like once you finally got it going though, it's just
been nothing but great energy out to get I saw
your numb when they was doing things. Like everything's just
been on the on the right level of like oh
this feels right.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah. For me, it's about support, you know what I mean,
And a lot of people support me and my endeavors
and what I do, and obviously I reciprocate the support,
but I'm able to gauge it. And it's not about
who comes in here and throws the most money. We
got good food, we got good vibes. You know what
I'm saying. You can come in here and you know,

(09:24):
make you a playlist and listen to what you want to,
you know, listen to. So it's not about you know,
coming in here and having to get once to impress
me and impress the lady's. Just coming in the parking
lot makes me a very happy man, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, do you pick the dances yourself.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I've been here for some auditions. I had to see
it all the way through. Man, I have to see
it all the way through. I'm you know, this business
is different than some of my other businesses, but they
still have like a common thread in them, you know.
So you know, like that picking you know, dances and
all of that, how that works, and and then telling

(10:04):
them how to go get the proper permit to work.
You have to have to have a permit to work
in here. In order to have a permit, you can't
be like a feeling, you know, you can't be like
one of them, like thug and chicks trying to like
yeah whatever whatever. You know, I actually gotta And I'm

(10:29):
not talking down anybody, because I became a feeling very
very very young, and it just sometimes stuff just happens.
But in this system, I would to never I want
to never know that, Like, yeah, yeah, I want to
never know. I thought you could just so you know,
it's like they got like this moral standards for for
for some people. You know, you would think like this
would be you know, you look at like this's got

(10:50):
to be the hour. This is the wild, wild West.
It's got to be some have fingerprints, two forms of
I D You have to do.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
That. Yeah, that's important having this place.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
It's kind of ironic because you made birthday song one
of the best strip club anthems of all time.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
That's crazy because birthday songs should be one of the
best birthday songs all the time. It's just blurry. It's
a little blurry, and with the music that I made,
obviously it has some strip club tone and energy in
it because I have been attending strip club when I
was fifteen, sixteen years old, you know what I'm saying, Like,

(11:31):
I remember a strip club used to on Cleveland Avenue
used to give away like free popcorn, and I was like,
I think, you know what I'm saying, Like we go
up in there and be smelling so good, we might
need to bring that here, honestly, man, Yeah, booming, and
they got the machine in the back and you go
up there and we sit back and you know, so
I've been coming here a long time and it was like,

(11:53):
you know what, mind owning something like this, And the
opportunity came, Man, it was It's a real blessing.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Us have a great opportunity to make records with this
guy a little Wayne. I feel like every college growth
album is its on journey to get to the finish line.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
So talk to me about this, about this current one
and the journey of this do that and why is
that so important you think when you look at it
to your legacy and your musical legacy.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
The one that's out now I am, and I'm going
to put me more music out. But if I didn't
do another thing, I would be just so content with
my journey. That's how proud and how how much hard work, sweat,

(12:40):
blood and tears and just time and and effort went
into not only putting it together but seeing it to
the finish line. Patient, Oh my god, all of that.
So someone that that is not afraid to learn new
things actually want to learn new things. Someone is not

(13:02):
afraid to learn new people, and so on and so forth.
This was a journey of all of those things. It's
a rap album, it's with bars, It's yes, it's a
rap out. It wasn't created this year like this has been.
This has been cooking for a long time a lot
of and I'm into micro waverable things as well, you

(13:26):
know what I'm saying. But I can honestly tell you
this is old fashioned, set the oven on three point fifty. Yeah,
whatever that process is, that's what this process was for
the for this and so you know, you know, being
around him is always a different energy from me because

(13:46):
I'm always like the captain wherever I am or whatever,
you know what I'm saying, Being around someone like him,
who I have modeled a lot of my success after
and who has I ultimately kind of like recognized as
someone as the kind of gave me that catch aport
I needed, you know what I'm saying, because honestly, without

(14:10):
the Dubel bag boy, I think whole little energy around
that time, he's just hot. He don't even have to
mess with these two guys, like who are these two guys?
And then like the circle they actually rapping and it
just and so I never looked back after that. I
was somebody that really took the ball and just kept running. Yeah.
I mean, and I look back and it may not

(14:32):
be anyone behind me. I'm just still running even from
that time. So the beta, you know, the first one
I thought was something that I thought was like it
was doing a period he couldn't really put out on
his own body at work. So I'm like, yeah, the
first one, I'm like, you know, this is my brother.
You know what can I do? And you know, I'm
thinking I'm being smart. I could just really like use

(14:52):
you know, because I would never like pay him per se,
you know, I'm like, because we do, but like I
got a budget with these people who I would would
I would I would pay if I want to be
this artist or something, I would pay them. So let
me pay my homeboy. Look out while he whatever, I

(15:14):
don't know what he's doing, you know what I mean.
So that was the mindset around the first one, and
it's still something that I love very much. The second
one was like we on every song, we know what
this mission is. Right now, let's let's really a group
of your line. Yeah, we we you know we're doing.
This is the first interview I've done without him since
putting out the project, because I didn't even want to,

(15:34):
like we either do it together. I don't want to
do it. We appreciate that. Yeah, And so this is
the first one I did without him. But like, because
I'm very very happy, you know what I'm saying. I'm
I'm grammy happy. I'm like that happy you know what
I'm saying when I talk about that, And I don't
know the process or whatever, but I just feel that
way about this project. You know, from top to bottom,

(15:56):
from the narrations that I put together with Fifty to
the musical bed that's behind the narrations that I put
together with them joints, you know what I'm saying, and
everything just so much thought that this was just not
an accident.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
Like the first voice we hear is in on the album, like,
how did you convince him to do the narration for
the project?

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Well, I have a rapport with fifty, you know what
I'm saying, I have a report with a lot of people.
I'm just not like, I don't know what it is.
I'm just you know, just be cool. And so I
had this idea because you know, it's, uh, how do
I explain it? A lot of the projects that were
coming out, I felt like we're getting back to like

(16:42):
some type of interaction. It was just like, you know
what I mean, at least that's what I wanted to
bring back into the game. And instead of doing like
a normal maybe like a DJ hosting type of thing,
because I saw Felicia to go do it with with
with with Drum I've already done. But even even we're
even doing that, I would have felt like I'd have

(17:03):
been even though I've done one, I felt like I'd
have been being a follower, so to speak. Yeah, and
so with Welcome to Collie Grow, it's like this fictional
place I put college part whatever together. So now I'm
trying to and now I'm listening to some of the
songs and I'm like, they have these like to me,
have a visual aspect to it or whatever. So I
actually wrote these things for fifty to say you know

(17:26):
what I'm saying, and I sent it to him and
I explained to him because first of all, fifty is
somebody that has a voice I think people can recognize.
And two he's in the TV space. And three I
knew that when it was trying to put out the album,
I was gonna do something to like maybe fuck people
up to think maybe he was putting out I had
this whole thing in my head about trailers and just
you know, you know, chaos and mayhammer, just like what

(17:48):
the hell of they got going on? And so I
reached out to him, but I was already having a
mutual conversation with him about BMF. Yeah, okay, because I'm
in the first, I'm in the next whatever being Yeah Stacks,
that's right. Yeah, so that's my character name Stacks. That
nigga five. I don't even want to see. I don't

(18:10):
like to talk about stuff until you see what I'm saying.
So I'm gonna leave leave them, leave that alone.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
But look out for that.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, so special. Yeah, So I'm I'm doing BMF. I'm
stacked somebody to do this be a meth thing. And
so I hit him and he and he did it
for me. I mean it didn't take long and he
killed it on the first take. As far as like
knowing how to breathe, the spaces, just little stuff that
us as creators just you know that I just wanted.
So that part was done, and then it became time

(18:39):
for me to, Like normally I would let someone else
arrange my album. I'm somebody that's like it's done, figure
it out or whatever. But with this one, I felt
the need to just do everything because if it was
gonna be a movie, then it didn't I couldn't worry
about tempos and what came next and all of that stuff,
because if you're watching a movie, they have these different
scenes and different energies, and so when I started putting

(19:01):
the scenes together, it just, man, it just made it
a beautiful piece of art. And I'm just excited about it,
and and and I'm looking forward to using this old
footage next year whenever we go to the Grammys and
and pick pick up, pick up that thing.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
It early chains, I'm serious. Word, What do you think
of it?

Speaker 5 (19:21):
When Wayne says that you and him are the new
big Timers, do you feel like any pressure living up
to that title?

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I think that was just a bar Okay, Yeah, I
think that was just abart. The big Timers were a
Baby and many Fresh, and we could never replace those guys.
You know what I'm saying, Baby is a huge you
know whatever you want to call it. Logul Many Fresh
is one of our greatest producers of you know whatever.
And he actually did that beat. So I think that's

(19:48):
what that was, and that song was a Big Timers
sound right.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, But you also compare yourselves to Ray and Ghosts
because you're a big.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Great qualm. Yeah, I do. I saw Raykon at uh
Callus birthday recent I was like, man, that's my dog
right there. Man, I met I met Ray Kuon in Atlanta.
He was going in like a racetrack gas station. I
was with my wife. I was like, man, that's ray Kwan.

(20:17):
She was like, I'm like that's very corn You got
like a certain box. Just ran to see me. So
I'm like, man, ship, I'm about to go. I walk
in the stove, yo. Right. He don't really know me
at the time, you know, like I would be if
somebody walked up in the game. I totally get how
is it? He's like, what's good? I'm like, titty boy

(20:39):
whatever whatever. I kicked on. I'm a huge payan man,
you know Atlanta, you know, like cool cool, like you know.
Then I hit him with my second you know my
real job. You need some weed, you know your man whatever?
You know what I'm saying. And man, we built a
beautiful relationship. Man. We on old National, like the street
I'm from whatever, like sitting at this little place it

(21:02):
was called the Frozen and he pulled up in a
range row. But I never forget it. Man, he was
walking up the hill and like, man, this nigga looked
like right was his nigga looked the whole time? It
was him. Man, it was just he was just walking
with open arms. He ended up I mean my mixtape days.
He did verses and he actually told me that I

(21:23):
was gonna be. He he predicted. I mean I kind
of felt it, but he I remember him saying, You're
gonna be. You wanted them once.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
I always remember. I felt like it was the magic sign.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Was like, oh, nine twenty ten, we had just got
rapperated out going spend.

Speaker 8 (21:38):
It was taken off.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I remember text sent us to email like he's no
longer titty boy, He's two chains.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Oh he's sent out an email. He's stuff stuff, don't
even be sposing you.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Was like, you know, Trappa Valley tea boy. But it
was like now you're two chains. Spending was taken off,
and even the breakfast Club we didn't show, SOB's Breakfast
Club hosted the show.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
I remember that we were like a sponsor.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
You came to my room, interviewed you, and I feel
like everything was coming together, like two changes, like the
artist Breakfast Club ro Radar as a website, like like
just talk about it, like like I always tell artists,
like it's really that one song, as much work you
put in that one song, eventually changes everything, Right.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
I think everybody's one song away, everybody, Yeah, the biggest artist,
the yeah one. It just it's just it's really take
one song. I mean, you know a lot of other
things have to happen, but it's really one song.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I mean, here's it's It's spended for you. But that
might not even get played in yoursell list now. But
what that record was at that time was needed for
you to be who you.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Are today, and it was something other people could relate to,
like the song and it's mine whatever. It was that energy,
and it was the fact for me that this was
actually my seven to mixtape. I'm just like damn seventh trying. Yes,
I was on my seventh mixtape when I put this out. Yes.

(23:04):
And with that also came some shows, some thirty five hundred,
some five some seventy five hundred shows, you know what
I'm saying, to the point where I did run up
you know sixty Yeah, I run up a couple of bands, right,
That's not with the so I got bag bands because

(23:26):
before before dumble Bag, I'm I'm the song dumble bag.
I'm serving tune too, I'm serving rapper. That's what I
was known because yeah, you know, ludas working. He used
to work on the radio, and everybody knew him, and
he knew me. And so that's how I really was
in with a lot of rap Snoop and a lot

(23:47):
of these other guys whoever. It was before I even
was said I was a rapper. I would just do
this and so so when when when That's why I
was so happy when Wayne did the hook the dumbel
Bad Boys. I didn't tell him shit. He just said,
go get double back. I was like, I'm like, nigga,
do this, nigga. Know it was just so much like
I'm like this, nigga be paying attention, you know, you know,

(24:09):
it was just it was just crazy how that happened. So,
you know, fast fast forwar. In that space, I'm having
some money, you know, I'm hustling. I got a studio,
but I'm not recording all the time. And then I
go on tour with Wayne to see just how much
he you know, raps, and I understand that this is so,

(24:29):
this is job. I'm I supposed to do this every day.
I'm really I'm I'm really chripping. I'm trying to like
make up play and rap. Later on. And then so
once I go cold turkey, no hustling, that stopped. This
other thing started happening. You know what I'm saying. And
I see it happening. I'm feeling it happen. I'm all
the artists dming me or whatever it is at the time.
And and and that focus that I got from that focus,

(24:52):
I think, I mean, it just turned me up. You
know what I'm saying. It wasn't about you know, you know,
weed or nothing. No more so when the songs spend,
it come out, we serving it to radio and and
all of that. And I never forget this. I never
forget this. Tech comes to me, the same one that
emails you and says, man, we're gonna need about forty
thousand dollars or we're gonna lose this record. You know
what I'm saying. We independent, We're not with a label.

(25:13):
He's like, we're gonna have to get some people. He's
trying to explain to me, like to basically work for us,
help us, man, you know what I'm saying. And they
gonna Man, we're gonna be up good up in Detroit
and DC. Man, we need I'm telling you, we're gonna
lose this record. So I said, all right, cool, cool,
col I hang up the phone right and then on
answer for like two days because I'm like, I ain't
got like a six this is my wrap. Man done,

(25:35):
ran up. I got about sixty seven. He want forty
of it and man man man. To this day, I'm
happy I did it, but I did not want to
do it. I'm gonna be honest, you know, because I
could see my I had a count. I could kind
of see how much money I was gonna get, whether
it be it was you know, we call it the
chitling market with you know around here you can you

(25:55):
can be rich in Mississippi and Memphis markets and the
Caroline honest. And so I did that, and I have
to make that sacrifice. I had to. I had to
ship my own video with my own you know money,
and and it's just it just like it was a
lot of things that that that I want artists to
know like that. I know that is what makes other

(26:15):
people believe in you when you're not afraid to like
go in your own pocket and be like, you know, ship,
I'm gonna do it. You know what I'm saying? How
much the video, like damn that's how much damn you know, like,
and I did that. Can't nobody take that from me?
And it worked for me, you know. And I do
know other people that will wait kind of wait for
somebody to you know, do something for him, you know,

(26:37):
whether it's you know, book a flight or do anything
like that. But I'm just somebody that's kind of proactive
and I go get it myself.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
You still got that hunger, though, man, I saw that
you tweeted. I still wrap every night, just in case
you thought I was comfortable, you know, at this point
in your career, Like what's fueling that hunger?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Me?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Not knowing what I'm gonna say next is still super
exciting to me. Me not knowing Like me, I said
some shit the other day. I'm in the studio. I'm
already working on this next roightject, right, so I say
some shit the other day. Right, Well, it's looping because
I'm trying to get the rest of my shit together.
Not the blue motherfucker said, Man, I just heard this

(27:16):
song been looping fucking twenty thirty minute. Nigga just heard
what I said, and it just geeked me up that
you know what I'm saying. I said something about a
meeting Greek. A fan asked me to sign a pee,
but I was going I was in this lane and
niggas did. Didn't hear it until like thirty minutes later.
So I think me just knowing that I'm not burnt

(27:36):
out yet. You know what I'm saying. I think I'm
still creative. That's what I want to say. I still
have good ideas, and people pay money for ideas. People
still ideas. God still giving me ideas. That's why I
want to say. That's why I want to make my point.

(27:56):
Did I really want to say that? I think ideas
is one of the biggest forms of currency. I get them.
I have a lot of ideas still to this day.
So that's what my drive.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
You think that's a blessing is just it.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Gotta be people by the people pay fuck billions. You
got a really good idea, this idea, think about it.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I got something right.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
I'll tell you about this ship out of this fifty
shit a year old I don't put together on these ideas,
even the ship that the trail ain't even the listening
party in the movie theater Boom Boom, even what this
listening party in the theater means for the next chapter
of My Wife is all just like these ideas I got.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
That's what always buzzed me out about artists like y'all
can make something and you have to sit on it
and wait a year, maybe for two years for it
to come out. But the crazy thing about this Collego project,
even though it took so long, it doesn't feel like
y'all just was sitting on it.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
They feel like it could have been made last month.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
You're so first of all, good music, it's time less.
We know that you're not talking about you know what, Yeah, yeah,
you do this. I'm just gonna you know what I'm saying.
You know exactly what it is. So when it's not
trendy raps or trendy flows or trendy beats, shit, we

(29:18):
got a song pressure with it. Damn. I didn't even
know the producer was whistling until we did. I'm like,
we're gonna go to Jimmy, Jimmy kim and do this show.
I want you to make the beat Jimmy fallon and
do the show, and i want you to make the
beat on TV because it's like, I'm just saying what
we could do to be creative and keep you know,

(29:40):
and then for me a lot of times, because I've
done TV so much, I feel like most of the
times it should be melodic hooks because the crowd there
drives that what you're saying on TV, you know what
I'm saying. So if it's like somebody singing at the end,
then you can hear the TV goal. They get everything.
You know what, I've done this. When you go up
there trying to rap and ship right at you might

(30:01):
hear one, you know, and it could be a hit record. Right.
I'm like, man, I don't know you're gonna do this.
I'm like, man, maybe we should do you know the
Usher record transmant. Now, we gotta wake you know what
I'm saying. That's how big one we're gonna So I'm like,
what can we Let's just be creative, man, you know
this is crazy creative. You know what I'm saying. He
gonna wear a crazy hat or some shit, and I'm like,

(30:23):
let's let's have him make the beat.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
You know what I'm saying. This is no bullshit. Take
this this ship eight times? This nigga whistled the same
way eight times. I was like, yeah, and I know.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Tune was like, man, man, he fresh used to make
beats you know, you know verbally too, you know what
I'm saying. So they had Yeah, So just stuff like that,
just taking those creative risks and then honestly having somebody
like Wayne with me makes it easy for me to
take these creative risks because I'm with a whole alien
over here, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, man,

(30:55):
bro I'm thinking about just like he like cool, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
So, but as tight as you guys are, do you
have creative differences? What does that look like? Is that
arguing in the studio?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
It's fun though, it's fun man, because you probably motivate
the alien like nobody else can.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
So what that comes to other motivated and aggravate one
of the other.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
That's that's where the other side comes from, right, like it?

Speaker 7 (31:23):
But like you like that fire in them more than
anybody in some.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Sense, Yeah, I mean, and not just in the studio,
every video set, wherever it is. You know what I'm saying.
It's just no, because he he is who he is already.
He don't have to really like prove nothing really not
me either, And but I honestly, like I was saying earlier,
Still I'm still in a space where I can still

(31:48):
learn things, not like learn how to do a record.
But it's still you know, maybe I'm not carrying myself
to the highest level that I should in certain instances,
you know what I'm saying. And there's not so much
of him saying that. It just made me like, think
you know what I'm saying, because sometimes I will. I
don't know. I'm just somebody that's I like to try

(32:11):
to be as normal as possible. Still, you know what
I told you, I gotta what I gotta do after this,
and shit, I got like daddy ship to do after this,
you know, doing my interview in the strip club. Then
I'm i gotta go do some daddy reality. Yeah, and
I'm gonna you know what I mean. So I'm somebody
trying to trying to do all that, you know what
I'm saying. So, but you know, it is that energy
where we we do want the best for each.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Other being at your second time in the group, Like,
is there similarities of differences working with Wayne versus Dollar
from play a Circle?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Now, that's a good question, thank you. It's a real
good question. Well, I can tell you this man, Dollar
grew up together, you know what I'm saying. And at
this point I've known Wayne for twenty years, so we've
kind of grown up. I guess the second part of
my life. I ain't thinking about it like that.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Wow damn.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, you love a rap.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
But but him and Dollar with both you know, on
side of me when I got Merrit, you know what
I'm saying. So they both was there, best men. Yeah,
they both there. So the the process with me and
Dollar is that, I mean, it's some similarity. Dollar was

(33:17):
rapping before me. Mum hm, you know I learned stuff
from him as well. You know. Uh, I don't know, man,
It's just I don't know, you know, Wayne was his
little Wayne. You know, I don't know how to how
to put it. But just like when I'm thinking about

(33:37):
like the process of it, like the projects, but the
process of doing the songs is kind of like similar.
Like we're not giving each other like a lot of
directions I think out of respect and confidence knowing that
they got this, like, you know, I think that's what

(33:57):
it is on both on both of those projects. It's like,
I know, Dollar gonna go crazy. I know I ain't
gonna go crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, but how war it was it because the first
college growth there was some label politics.

Speaker 8 (34:08):
You couldn't have them on every song.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
You're so good.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Now this album is like you get to be a
real rap group. Like there's no solo song every song.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
You know, both connected to that was very important. That
was that was that was one of the most important
things for me, that we be on every song together.
We could have did the one solo song a piece
or whatever, but I didn't. I didn't even see that
being fit. I thought we all needed to mesh up,
do songs, mix it up, you know. Like I said,
production was key. You know, we got two Havoc beats

(34:38):
on there. You know what I'm saying. It's like it's
you got a many fresh and a habit and a
brain of this what y'all got going on over here,
you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, yeah, we
can do that, like we're able to do We're in
a space where we can do this. We can take
these creative risks and read the rewards when it's time too.
And so with with that being said, it was it

(34:58):
was it was more fun to do it when we're
on each project together and even the visuals, just being
in the same place together doing them and not knowing
what the hell we're gonna come out the trailer looking like,
you know what I mean, it's fun.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Still, I'm gonna go back to be That's a regual question,
because I don't think you answered it.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
I skipped your question all right.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
When you and Waine do.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Have a mindor difference, like how does it get resultd
give its an example of when you might not have
seen everything in the same way, but you got on
the same page and that's what we now hear. Yeah,
is there an example from a new album where you
felt like it was it had to get to that place?

Speaker 4 (35:35):
No? No with with Wayne, like so the process with
this album was a couple of songs weren't clearable or
had to be reconstructed to be clear. Now he works
just as hard as and if not as hard as me,
so he doesn't mind that. He'll be like, you know,
fuck it, we could just you know, we got other
songs or whatever my thing may be. You know, I

(35:57):
think we need this one, right, I think we need
to figure you know, And I'll just figured out but
it's not. It's nothing that that we can't never fix
or nothing where it you know, we have to come
to blows anything crazy like that. It's just some creative
stuff where one person, maybe you know, more nonchalant and
the other person is like, I'm telling you, you know
what I'm saying. We get this one right, This motherfuckers

(36:19):
gonna go.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
So do you think he do you think he appreciates
that you have such a kind of solid vision of
what you think college growth should be. Do you is
he comfortable how you kind of assume more of a
leadership role of like what that aesthetic, what collige growth means.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
He's still he's still very much a part of part
of everything. He's still very much a part of everything.
You know. We text We texted.

Speaker 8 (36:39):
There every day, which you agreed upon.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
We talk a lot. Yeah, just run them like run this,
run this, run his body, vice versa. And then you
know he had ideas too, which was which was very cool. Yeah, yeah,
ideas too, which was very very cool, Which is what
I wanted. That's what I told him, Like I need
like I want you to be a part, Like I
don't want to do all this stuff, I say, I
know what you do. So that was important.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
What was the example one of his creata.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
The idea behind oprang Geale was his idea with the butcher. Yeah,
with being the butcher. The way we shot it with
his particular camera man, it was three different eat our
own personal cameraman shot this like you know, like cinematic,

(37:28):
like you know, black and white footage and gluted it
all together and the shit crazy. You know what I'm saying.
It's one. It's one of the you know, you pay
all this money. But I'm not talking about all the
videos look nice. Let me just feel like all the
videos look nice. But it was something that I ain't
see because, like you know, I'm explaining, like, you know,

(37:48):
we got this, you know, we got an usher record,
and we got like a pressure record, but you know,
like we got we really rappers. We got to let
these folks know we wrapped like we can't like you know,
And so I guess he like thought about what I
said or something like that, you know what I'm saying.
And that was the one. And it's been getting some
great feedback, you know what I'm saying. It's been getting
some great feedback.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
So do you know if Gaylor openheard the record yet.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Well you know, Oprah hit me last night. It's funny
you asked you want to hear it? No, op Gail
DM me this morning. No, man, I ain't heard nothing
from them.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Or what make you do that?

Speaker 8 (38:26):
You get a car, you get a car, you get
a roe.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
I bought twenty Rollies last year for Christmas from my team.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Really twenty one.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Damn. You always say your team, and I always see
that's the thing. People, you know, like you laughing, we'll
be debt serious though. Yeah, I can get people coming here, lady.
All of them got forty one. The women. I ain't
getting no little bit everybody, the women, the women got
forty one. Everybody. That's a part of like, I don't
know me. I just I just love everybody. I appreciate people,

(38:58):
and I actually pray that I can help people by
getting them rollies. Ain't really helping them, but they helped
me get to you a certain point that I reciprocated.
So that's what a rolely idea came from. I really
bought twenty one brand new, not no motherfucking recently. I
really went there and you know, and they was playing Jane.
They won't all bust down, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (39:17):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, Since we talked about some of
these songs, one of my favorites is PPA.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
How did that soon develop?

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (39:28):
At the candy land.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
I have, I don't have land. Yeah. Ppa is short
for a pretty Pussy Award. I just be thinking of
some crazy shit, some ideas, huh, And I do have
I do have a vision on doing a real award.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
What does the pretty Pussy Award look like? Chase?

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Oh well, let me tell you how I was gonna
do it. Please, Yeah, I'm gonna have a whole ward.
I'm having a dog. I can have just a little boy.
See somebody very toxic. You know what I'm saying, right,
you gotta have a toxic Let's do it. Let's do it, Okay.
I can't do it in l A really because they
can't get naked. I can't do it in New York
really because they can't get naked. I can do it

(40:14):
in Atlanta, but don't need to do it in Atlanta.
And we'll talk about that thing, Okay. So I'm thinking
about maybe like Houston.

Speaker 7 (40:22):
Okay, I think it's gonna Miami outside it's going with.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
It or Miami okay, but Houston in the middle, everybody
come all the way up. But Miami a good idea,
and then we do a real people come dress whatever whatever,
and it's different, you know, stuff we don't do me

(40:49):
like this like this, but a real award thing where
it's kind of like you know, they have porn awards
and all. Yeah, So it wouldn't be porne because it's
no sexy. The class will be just about something that
I was in my head, something that's classy and sexy,
that that celebrates the female.

Speaker 8 (41:11):
Appreciate beauty on all levels.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
So that's what the PP Pretty Push Awards would be,
you know what I'm saying. And you know at the end, well,
you know Grammy's they do a vote, right, you know,
we have to figure out this out.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Is there a prize? You know? Like okay, you.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Listen, you might have to go g wagon forever. Hey.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
So in terms of the song, though, who hits Low?
So who is Fab?

Speaker 8 (41:44):
Like, yo, you gotta get out?

Speaker 4 (41:46):
So I see Fab? So that's that's that's a good story.
So I see Fab in New York. Man. I don't
know what the hell we were doing, but me and
Fab was hanging out in New York and he came
to the studio with me and I was playing these
joints and Fab is like one of the ones to see.
That's what I want to let y'all know to some
of us has been doing this thing over a decade.

(42:07):
They're still like, you know, relevant, hungry, getting booked, still
knowing how to put their clothes together, still knowing how yeah,
all of that stuff. FA just had a birthday out
of the day, still look taking care of herself, whatever
the thing. So I have a high respect for that
because a lot of people don't even know that. There's
like probably four or five people that's at that level

(42:28):
now it's been doing. It's not that, manuye. That's very
low percentage to be in if you're in your forties
and motherfucking like, I'd like to hear wrong and say,
oh my back, like if you ain't doing all that,
you know what I'm saying, and like you know what
I mean.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
But relevant today, man, yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Man, I'm booked this weekend. Next took this bitch over
the rest of this year, you know what I'm saying.
And you know, and so anyway, I respect FA and
so similar space. And so I went to the studio
and that beat man that beat just gave me one

(43:07):
of them. I don't know, like a you know we
say your kid now like a New York type of vibe.
It has that, it has that sampling. And my boy
Mark Mark Bird did that beat and so I was like, man,
I played it for him and then you know, it's
one of the ones where he totally got it, like
he like he went in on it. So appreciate Fat
for that. That was one of the features that just

(43:29):
because it was believe it or not, it was it
was kind of hard to get features on this project. Yeah, yeah,
it was. People really gets busy and stuff.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
But when you talk about features, you're like the feature
king and this year, like on the low you've been
kind of killing it. Like from Larry June Ocean's really.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Good man, that's a hard ass verse.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
We get some other verses. Got off the lot with currency,
spaceship views of the Killer Mike album, Mask Up Bucks
his list Ready, I'm.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Just saying those bars on that.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Yes, And you know I ain't capping back in like
twenty twelve, you went crazy with like one hundred features.
So it's like this year, like what's your approach when
you go to do features, are you just.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Trying to I still do them the same night, I
get them, send them back. I still do them.

Speaker 8 (44:11):
You said, same night every time.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah I do that. I still do that.
I got the most stug gonna come out in a minute.
I did it for people. Yeah, I still do that.
But it's of course I'm not getting asked as much
as I was in twenty twelve. But if somebody asks
me to do something, I'll I'll do it and send
it back because I'm already in the studio every night.
You know what I'm saying. I call it homework. So
I asked my agine, we got the homework do tonight? No,

(44:35):
just do us? I do that.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Do you think it has to connect to you right
away for you to feel like it's the write song
for you to be on.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
No, when I'm doing a feature for someone. When I'm
doing a feature for someone, obviously I listen to the song. Yeah. Now,
if it's something that I'm just not in that space,
then I'm not gonna do it. And I have some
some people have sent me a couple of things, but
it's just like I'm not even I'm not there anymore
or whatever it is. It might be if it's heavy
on the maybe the boodhis shake and the heavy on

(45:03):
some other stuff like come on, man, I can't be
some of this stuff. But for the most part, people
been giving me some really dope, dope records and stuff
like this, and like, you know, the Larry record. Cardo
actually sent me that record. I ran into Cardo at
a hotel. I don't even know what the hell I
was at, but I ran into him and he was
telling me that he was finishing up the Larry project.
And I'm a Larry fan. And so that's how that happened.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
Last year though you had the record with the Osley Brothers,
the plug. He said, God worked this out in a
real crazy way. Can you explain what happened that?

Speaker 4 (45:33):
Man? Another thing, Man, I was in LA and I
called Lance from fifteen hundred okay, yeah, yeah, And I
was like, man, I got this idea for a record, man,
and I saw you messing with this. I saw you
with Ron or something like they like, yeah, I ain't

(45:54):
finna pull up. Now you have to pull up too.
We shooting a video. Wow, Like you shouldn't be like
all right, cool, I want to meet him. I came.
When I came to meet him, Run liked me so
much he put me on the song they shooting a
video for. And I had to go get some clothes
to get in the video that same day that they
were shooting. So I get there they shooting the video. Man,

(46:16):
He's like, man, you started calling me son and everything.
You know. I like, man, my daddy passed away. I'm like, Pops,
what's what we're doing? We build that cool report And
I did a verse right there. He sat right here
and I did my verse rop beside him, and then
that was like you you ready to shoot the video?

(46:36):
So I sent somebody to the crib to grab some
some pans or something, and we shot the video. And
then after that the original thing that I called for.
I was like, well, man, I got this idea and
it's a song I got. It's called Atlanta. It's gonna
come out so and I love it. But that's how
it ended up happening in a really godly way. I'd
like to say, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
That's dope. Let's get back to some more of the
music from College grow too millions from the.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Means from that, I was just playing that pulling up.
Literally when I parked, I was playing.

Speaker 8 (47:04):
That song that feels like a lot of your energy.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
And it's the truth. The thing about my stuff is,
and I mean it's so humbly, so so humbly. But
when people come to me and be like, you know, man,
I booked you, book you in twenty thirteen at the
such and such a South Carolina. First of all, a

(47:29):
lot of artists don't actually meet the person that booked them.
Let's get that clear. Really, No, they deal with you
have a you have a booking person that deals with
the promoter. I show up to the club. I'm not
I'm not. You know, it'd be a couple of promoters
that make their way in there and do whatever it
take you mighty, but you ain't hit me up, gave

(47:51):
me no money, I ain't put so then you might
walk up, I might see someone somewhere, and obviously we
all look different from ten years ago, most men, most
men and women and so and so. Then you know,
you do that and it's like, man, that was millions
of dollars ago. Humbly, I just don't remember that, you

(48:16):
know what I'm saying. And so, in a in a weird,
crazy way by the time some of us get a
million dollars, we won't remember the person that we had
knew it ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Money brings amnesia.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
It just bring a whole bunch of shit because you
got to do a whole bunch of shit to get
this money, and you just may not. Now of course
those those special love and close ones to you. But
this is then, honestly, this is just my theory, my
take on things. I don't I'm not right about everything.
But you know, I'm not somebody that says money should
change you or nothing like that. But you know, in

(48:55):
certain senses, by the time you.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Save instance for me, you know, rigally, for me to
get a meeting, I might have to do so many,
so many shows. Right, So then I'm in different states,
different stages, I see different fans. I'm not just getting
my million dollars in Vegas at a resident I'm actually
moving around, you know. And even if it was Vegas,
that's a tourist city, so people will be moving around,
so it don't expect me. And that's all I'm saying.
So I mightn't remember. You won't remember, you know, so

(49:21):
you know I remember you because you're still around if
you came back and like, man, I was in your room,
like you know, this weird, So that that's what it is. Man.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
You would say you made a million dollars bootlegging your
own mixtape.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
How did you, man, I'll just be telling the truth.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
That's why you're here.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Well, when I say bootleg my mixtape is I did
the mixtape. And then you know this is back when
you had to press up so many CDs, and you
know this is around this right after I've seen GZ
run running ship all the way up. I'm seeing all
these niggas running it up. So by the time I
get to like true religion and all that stuff, I

(49:59):
just started, you know, press more of my things to sell.
And so that's what I meant by you know. So
when I did get my deal, when I finally went
back to depth jail, it wasn't so much about the
money and definitely I wasn't doing the three sixty because
I had so much leverage and I had some money.
My my thing and every meaning that I went to

(50:19):
was about being my international superstar, like what y'all got
going on internationally. That was some of my questions. How
many you have you have employees over there, someone would
say twenty something would would say, you know, we have
this this, And so I wanted to be known internationally
because I felt like when I finally was going to
get a deal, I had already made some I had

(50:41):
been to South Dakota, North Dakota, I had been the
Boys Idaho. I'm one of them people. But I didn't
touched it. I swear, I'm like, I done did the
whole United States. When I look up, I did the whole,
you know, And so of course I'm you know, I
ain't doing my towner or some shit like that. But
and so that's that was my my, my my approach

(51:01):
to to doing what I'm doing.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
Why do you think you was ready for?

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Like?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Because think about it, like you put all the work
in to get to that moment, spend it happens. Then
I remember just that first run, everybody felt like chance
can't miss no lie birthday. Everything was just like this,
like why do you think you was so built for
it that moment? And like what was that like with
that momentum you was building at that time?

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Wanted is so bad? Man? That's that's I have to
I have to really remind myself not all the time,
but sometimes I have to remind myself that I prayed
to be here, like asks to like ask whatever God
I believe in. You know, I believe and I prayed
to be so sometimes when I don't feel like taking
a picture or fucking like yeah, you know what I'm saying,

(51:45):
it's like, you know, because I'm a human being with
you know, feelings and most sometimes I'm tired and all
that stuff. I do actually have to think, like, man,
I prayed to be like a not I pray to
be like a good like rap. I ain't just say
you want to wrap please, just like let me be
a rap. I want to be like yeah, I'm like,

(52:06):
I'm really letting it in. It's like it's starting to happen.
It starting to because you know, for me, it's about
lining up. I remember how the no light thing happened.
I remember how I remember how the birthday song happened.
When when you heard I remember, I remember how all
these things even happened.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Break that down, No, break that down. A lot of
people know know at this point that was you know
with those spend it takes off.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Just spend it takes off, and then.

Speaker 7 (52:29):
No lie and like birthday like that whole no lie.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
I saw Drake at a All Star game and I'm popping.
I mean, like people yelling too chains from the court
during during the national anthem, I'm like Lebron yelling to
but I'm like in roll ten. At the same time,
I still ain't gotten my ship all the way together.

(52:55):
Now I see I think I see Tune down and
on the bench, which I know wherever he at. Even
then I'm good and I see Tuned, I see a
couple other people, you know, I see they know me
down here, you know what I mean. So, just like
anything else, I just like I was supposed to be here.
So I started walking down And now that I'm thinking
about this, I never forget I remember Mary J. Blige,

(53:17):
even though I'm really I'm cool with her. Now I
remember her saying, hey you to changing. I'm like, man, Mary,
know who the fuck I am. I remember just being
like a moment and then I ran in the drizzy.
But I already knew him from when I went on
tour with music to see like, oh this is how
you you know, you get off stage and then you
go back to the studio like that's all Wayne did

(53:37):
so that's what when I talked about going cold Turkey
with the trapping. So when I saw him, he was like, man,
what's good? I said, man, you know I got one
for you, and I was lying. So it's funny that's
called no lie. It's funny that it's called a lot.
That's hilarious. But one of my investments before I got
my deal was this tool bus with a studio on it.

(53:59):
Because I already what this boy way Anet be doing
on this. I'm already when I went on to let me,
I'm sleeping on the studio bus. So that was one
of my big I don't went through like two of
these little converted This is before sprinting, so I'm going
through these little turtle top bands and then I saw
tour bus. It's three four hundred thousand. You know, mama

(54:22):
got a house. I got her house, and this before
I even got my house. I said, you know how
you know how we think no, this how we think
of shit, don't go right, we go back to my mind.
This is how, you know. And I've met mentors of
my life that told me that's not the way the
other cultures think. That's just some like some really some
black ship get up this house and then I get

(54:43):
this tour bus. But in my mind, I'm like, the
two bus got beds, kitchen, and if I got two nigga,
this the crib, you know what I'm saying. And the
bus outside, and I go to the bus and my
engineering I go to my engineer said, ship, man, I
just told you, Drake, I got some form. He said,
send it and he's like, what you gonna see him on? Like, man,
I don't know. So they was like, we need to
pull up some beats. And me and Mike Will had

(55:05):
been working together for years since Mike Will before Mike
Will was twenty one. I literally I've said this before.
He used to sneak him in the clubs with you
know what I'm saying. He was just somebody that just
Mike was someone that just did not take no far answers.
And I'm being honest, like, and it worked for him.
He did not. There was no way. He was not
pulling up on you. It was no way. And so

(55:29):
even though Mike Will wasn't there, his he was on
my mind. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, ladies,
you know Mike Will, you know something, Yeah, yeah, and
he played the beating and no lot beat like had
like some type of drop in it that I told myself,
this sounds like a part where Draken like some melody.
You know. I feel like I feel like Dracer do
some melody. Ship right here. So I do a verse

(55:50):
right then and there, and I sent it to him
and he's like, you know, great, whatever he's gonna. You know,
he got me, you know, and I'm like, okay, cool,
and I'm like, man ship, it be crazy. And you know,
he got me turned to like a week and maybe
took like two weeks and maybe not a month, but
maybe maybe three weeks. You know what I'm saying, And
why I'm just like waiting, like to see what he gets.

(56:12):
I do another verse, just waiting, you.

Speaker 8 (56:14):
Know what I'm saying, on the same song.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
On the same song, I do another verse, name a
nigga that won't some o rapers as our traps ahead
and sent that to him. Now I'm just sitting on that, yeah,
only sending the first one. And so then and so
when he does do the hook, he sends the hook
and he does the verse, which is like, if Drake
does that for anybody, you should you should and if

(56:38):
you can't win off that, then you should just not.
You should not just like.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
New occupation.

Speaker 8 (56:46):
If he does it for beat, that might happen one d.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
That's just my personal opinion. You know what I'm saying.
And I'm talking about even now. You know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Saying, that's still worse now. Yeah, so that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
I'm telling you. So he said this hook like, I said,
oh no, this is no bullshit. I listened to the
song two times and I never listened to it again.
I said, this is my first time knowing what it hit.
Sounds like I put that on everything, like this ship.
It had sounded like I heard this ship one hundred times.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
It was already done. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
I keep closing because my mind it was it was
like my computer and I just remember like and I
remember my homeboy came and I remember playing for him,
and I just you don't need to hear me once.
I'm like, you know what this you know?

Speaker 2 (57:36):
You know?

Speaker 4 (57:36):
And I put my and that that one was that.
And then with the birthday song I did south By
Southwest and Big Sean and Kanye came to support me,
Boom boom, and at this time, same thing, I got
my bus outside of my studio, and I got my
chef with me. I've been having a chef for ten
fifteen years. But that's something that I also saw Wayne

(57:57):
had back in O eight. So I got the chef
only certain food. I've been only eating certain food and
and I don't really I'm not a fast food eating
So I got my cheft cooking, you know what I'm saying.
Got everything smelled. So I'm like, man, you know, you
guys want something to eat like And I remember Sean
got something different, whatever it was, and Yay got some

(58:17):
different than we on my studio bus. And I had
a song in my mind that I thought was some
Yay ship and I'm sure everybody always does this to everybody.
There's some two change and I'm like, no, it ain't.
I'm like, I play this ship for yeah. Let me
let me see what else you got, you know. And
I was like, damn, man, I just know he was
gonna love this song, you know. And I played song cool,
and then I play this song you know my birthday

(58:40):
is a big booty hole and he he was like
that's hard. I was like, you this what he said?
Some most stuff that I ain't gonna say right, so yeah,
he was like this the one and not and you know,
and shot the Sunny digital because he was a producer

(59:02):
on that. And then you know that that that took
off too. So all this energy was just.

Speaker 8 (59:06):
But but so that momentum.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Yeah, but I want to say this, those two songs,
So No Lie was my first single, Birthday songs my
second single, but my third single was different, right, and
and with them different, I remember being in London and
them telling me that it was platinum. It sold him,

(59:31):
you know, it did his thing, and that out of
all the songs, made me feel like I was an
artist or whatever I came because it was just me.
You know. I did the hug, I did the verse,
must it did to be ain't no soundple ain't nothing
Like with No Lie? I still well, it kept. I

(59:56):
still was humble, like this drake on it. You know,
bless Yeah, he blessed me with birthday song. He's like, yay,
he gonna pick the person to do the video here
and the song like man, this is you know I wasn't.
I wasn't you know. But when I'm different, when platinum,
I'm in the mirror like you got this, you know

(01:00:19):
what I'm saying, right, that's right short, you know what
I'm saying. They don't know they believe you. They you
know what I'm saying. They thought you you did this.
You know what I'm saying. You you you know what
I'm saying. It was just that and so that was
the energy behind that, you know what I'm saying. And
I and I feel that way for other artists too.
I'm like, artists know when they ain't done shit, like

(01:00:39):
you know, you know, you don't know. Sometimes they be like,
you know, throw this money away because I know, ain't
done shit. Or sometimes they be like, let me be
cool because it's you know, two ways to do it.
But you know, for me, that was my energy around
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Earlier. You say, you know you're working on your own
solo stuff still.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
You know last year though, for your project, you have
a song called free BG.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Now free BG's free.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Yeah, yeah, we have a song together already. Oh really okay,
BG's actually knew BG. I met BG before I met
Wayne Wow. Because BG, for people who know the hot
boys thing, they broke up or whatever. BG came to
Atlanta and once again I was selling, I was trapping,
you know what I mean, and he came to Atlanta.
When he came to Atlanta, everybody was like, man, you know, BG,

(01:01:26):
Atlanta was like fucking with him. T I was had
him around a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:01:31):
And so trying to bring the groundhouse.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Yeah, so we built it. We build a report in
and you know, drinking lean and all that ship back then.
And then I ended up I ended up meeting you
know Wayne maybe a little wise after that, not that
long ago.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Have you guys obviously done the record? What was that session?

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Like, we weren't in together. Mike will too, that's crazy,
Mike will put it together. I did something and Mike
will put it together for me. But me and BG
we facetiming all. I just didn't try to like recorded
and put it everywhere and all that. We had a
good long conversation. Yeah that's a that's a friend of mine.
And we did when he was locked up too though. Yeah,

(01:02:10):
this is not my first time community came in.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Okay, So spell back to the solo effort, Like, what's
the outlook for that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Like, what's the goal?

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Man, it's gonna it's a man.

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
I already kind of got it put together.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
I'm excited, man, I am already. Yes, man, it's gonna
be dope too. Okay, Yeah, man, I got together the
title I'm working with like some of the arrangement and everything,
but it fl I mean, has some samples that need
to be clear like everything else, but I'm happy about it.
The next project I'm putting out is that static project,
you know what I'm saying. But it's a lot of upgrading,

(01:02:44):
moving around some stuff like that. So it's actually fun.
It's actually really really fun fun to be working on this.
It's like no trap, drums, no whatsoever, you know, but
I'm able to I'm able to navigate through that. You know,
I'm I'm a really good rapper. Man, I'm a really

(01:03:05):
good rapper.

Speaker 8 (01:03:06):
I've gotten better as a rapper.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
I still think I can get better, you know. I
think I got these things that I'm ultimately good at,
Like if it was sports, you know what I'm saying.
But it's some things I can work with on my
off hand, you know what I'm saying. And I think
my offhand would be like more like more or less
more melodies and stuff like that. You know, I'm not
somebody's gonna come on like just try to sing the
roof up and nothing like that. My melodies come just
if I you know, stretch a word or something like that.

(01:03:30):
But it's not really intentional either. I have like this
self melody thing. So it's just about, like I said earlier,
taking certain creative risks, but also using the studio to
make those arrangements and adjustments. You know what I'm saying,
use the studio to make those mistakes. You know what

(01:03:50):
I'm saying, Like, I'm not making a mistake when I
put it out. When I put it out, you know,
I'm already like gotted where I needed to be. Yeah,
but I do think even where I am now, Like
like I told me that, I still really really, I
promise to god, I surprised myself. Man, I'm gonna say
some ship and I'm gonna be like, man, what the
like I will talk to I'm the only child, so
I talk to myself. I'll be like, well, what the

(01:04:11):
fuck is wrong with you? But I'll be talking to me.
But yeah, that's that's still where I am right now. Man.
And I don't think I have to like prove that
I can outrap the next you know, top tier rappers.
But I've done songs with most of all of them.
And yeah, and still be kind of like, you know,
more people I would like to play, I won't.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
I do like those creative risks, like as a fan,
you know, for your next project, just putting it out there,
like you talk about ideas. I love what you did
on wrap Go to the League, the song saying I
felt that was very underrated because I never saw you
talk about that subject matter and I've never really heard
anybody talk about that, especially what you said on the outro.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I said, Okay, I didn't know about taxes like that.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
So I feel like that record really helped me understand
it just a little bit more clear.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
That's dope, Thank you man. Yeah, So, how how how
do we say this hot? And I think Hope does
a good job of this and maybe Ross a little bit,
But how to balance the a cool way of teaching,
because that's what rap kind of that's what NAH does,
that's what rap is really kind of supposed to be.

(01:05:20):
Like one of my homeboys kids came over and uh
it just I mean he's like not a kid, he's
twenty three or twenty four, but he was listening to
Long Story Short on our album and he said, oh man, yeah,
I had to look up vicariously. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
He tells us that, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I had
to I had to google vicariously today.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
You know what I'm saying. I was like, you know,
but what you're saying is that, like, you know, find
a cool way to spread some game, so to speak.
You know what I'm saying, And I don't. I don't
mind that. I got a couple of songs. That's crazy, said,
I got a couple of songs kind of in those
lanes where not too preachy, yeah, not too preach, but

(01:06:00):
it's just some it's just some game in there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
But that's how much your place in the game. Though,
if you think about it, it's like, what is that transition?
Like that You're like you was the one trying to
get in. Now you you're in and you're the establishment
in the sense like you're a standard. What do you
think that transition is?

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
In a sense being being You got to be transparent,
got to be transparent with with what you're doing where
you are. You know what I'm saying. Whether it's whether
it's doing the interview, it can't Candyland or I'm saying
Esco whatever, it just got to be like, this is
what's going on, and whether an artist like it's saying,

(01:06:34):
they get it, they get it. We don't open up
a bunch of lounges in Atlanta since ESCO been open,
you know what I'm saying, Like people or people get
what's going on, you know what I'm saying. And it's
like that's kind of like my way of spreading game.
Whether I actually articulated in the verse or not. I'm
so transparent. It's like, you know, I'm just I'm out
I'm I'm in Atlanta, I'm out here. I'm just showing

(01:06:56):
people what the possibilities will be. You know what I'm saying.
I'm not like keeping anything took. I mean, you know,
like I said, I might announce it, announce it when
it's time to announce. But for the most part, you know,
you know, you know how many artists came here. I mean,
how you get this? Ship mean, I poll to do
this all pull just like this is what happened, bro,
you know, this is the process.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
So I don't have a problem. I don't have a
problem like sharing information, that's a big problem in our community.
But I don't I don't think I got a problem
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I don't have you said, the hustle is genetic.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
So that is though my mom my, mom my, mom
my mom. You know, I was in my mom my
dad they did the trap thing, but then my mom's
mom then did the bootleg house where they sold liquor
when you want supposed to. So when I think about it,
you know, my kids not gonna have to really sell anything,
you know what I'm saying. So when I think about
it's just something that that I that I feel like

(01:07:51):
that we all should do when around anyway, Like I
talk about selling drugs a lot of my route because
a lot of my life. I actually to the point
where it's hard for me to believe. I ain't gonna lie.
But I talk about it also with the ed like
in past tense. I don't really think it's cool right now.
I didn't think it was a matter of fact. When
I did say drug, it wasn't cool. You like didn't

(01:08:15):
tell everybody you like played crazy, You didn't like yeah yeah.
When I was around like Luda or something like that,
I didn't tell the niggas I had a jay outside
waiting on me. I was just like, man, I'm about
to run run to the store right quick, or whatever
that that excuse was. And so, and that's another thing,
not even just like with using the past and whatever

(01:08:36):
happened in the past, as far as trauma and stuff
like that, now figuring out a way to not do
like I see a lot of people because right now
I'm in the process of working on a book and
a FM. But these things that I'm working on are
not based on who went through the most pain, who
went through the most trauma, who the toughest, who had

(01:08:56):
the toughest background, or whatever that is. You know what
I'm saying, Because when I think about trauma a lot
with me and we talk about you know, we will
talk about, you know, whatever that we were dealing with
in the household. When you talk about trauma with a woman,
she could go into something that we can't even be

(01:09:17):
on the same level with. So the presentations that I'm
gonna present with the book and with the film and
about me trying to out out gainst a nobody, out
tough nobody, nothing like that. Actually, my book is going
to really be a different angle than what you've heard
a lot of people that's like me put out. Let

(01:09:37):
me just say that without telling too much. And as
far as the film space, I would say that in
the same space, it's not some I'm not in the film.
I'm just inking at seeing it through and all of
that stuff. But at the same time, it's not based
off you know, it's some stuff in there, but it's
not based off like this is the most gangsters, grungees

(01:10:00):
stuff like you know what I mean, I'm really I'm
really in this into in this creative space. You know
what I'm saying. I'm really just being into something that's
just putting dope stuff together, you know what I mean,
Curating dope stuff. That's where I am right now in life,
whether it's curating this, this is how this looks. I'm
just into curating ship right now. For real. I love

(01:10:23):
this place, man, stick around tonight. You know, I always
want to know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
This as a rapper, and just its on the right
like with the rids of streaming and like the fall
of gatekeeping, right, how important is the strip club still
when it comes to music, like for breaking new music.

Speaker 8 (01:10:40):
Rather, that's a good one man focused today.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
I got some good ones man. Streaming is a whole
other world. Streaming is a whole other world, and it's
an era thing, but I think what I'm starting to
see and in all the spaces it's kind of like
and I hate use let me just like you see

(01:11:08):
older talent or talent before me or whatever. A lot
of the things they do, the fans just they grow
with them, so they're able to still go on to
They able to still sell merchy, able to still do
stuff like that. In a crazy sense. The strip club
has a similar thing, not so much to females but

(01:11:29):
the actual people that attend strip clubs who attended them
five as they still might pop out to go to
a strip club because the energy and the strip club
has always been I just want to go swearing, Cheerwell,
ain't a lot of people. I just want to hear
some music, have a drink, and if a naked girl
walk by, that to be really cool. I'm serious. Ain't

(01:11:51):
nobody like low Ki, Ain't nobody like I want to
go spend I want to go throw away five thousand.
That's not the mentality of most people that come in
the strip club. They like, I'm going to go he
watched the game blah blah blah. I'm not. I'm They
actually like I'm too old to go to the club.
You know. So when you say that, I'm thinking, and
I'm thinking about us a lot of people that I
see coming here, and it's like we are growing up together,

(01:12:15):
you know what I'm saying. Like even the strip I
guess the strip club fan base or whatever, they grew
up and still you know, kind of want to you know,
they still come out. It's not so much where like
a lot of young cats come out twenty two, twenty
three and throw two thousand like happened in the p
I don't see that a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
Yeah, because like you know, artists like a Geezy you know,
his songs got broken in the strip club and artists
as well. And it's like, I don't know if it's
still the same, like the attitudes or you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
You are here songs, But I think it's I think
it's I don't think it's here first. It used to
be here first, like we used to be here first,
and then it was here first because the people it
was some besides the people that were just coming to chill,
it was some movies and shakers and that were coming
straightrip clubs, you know, yeah, because it's it's not many

(01:13:04):
people getting killed in the strip club, beat up, none
of that ship. It's like, this is really a place
you can come. You just smell like smoke. When you leave,
your clothes still look the same. You know, it's really
like that. You really, it's really like that. Man, When
you just think about the probability of going to the
strip club lead going and leaving getting home safely is
a very high chance instead going to club.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
What you doing? Man? Get you out all that old energy?
You know what I'm saying. It's very rare in here
because really only the girls supposed to be dancing, so
ain't nobody got no bending really bumping into you, stepping
on your shoes and stuff. That's my philosophy on things,
you know. So I think that's why. But but as
far as music, I don't hear the first song. I
ain't a lot at ESCO. And that might be based

(01:13:47):
on the DJs. I've heard songs in there that I
have never heard been like who is in it? I
mean a month later that should be out of here.
But I think that's based off the particular dj. You
know what I'm saying. When I think about it, Yeah,
I think it's the because I've heard man when when
man Club Club God beat King's first like he been

(01:14:09):
doing his thing, but when he had the like when
the run come with the eat Me Out and all
them little the songs like that, Man, I'll being Esco
and everybody around me. That would be just you know, like, man,
who is this? And it was a couple, it was
another artist, a couple of artists. But I remember that stand.
I remember asking like who is this? And I remember
it was a couple of the artists. But in the

(01:14:29):
strip club, I think it's might be secondary now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
And be honest, first things. Firsts is college Grove too, man,
make sure everyone goes stream.

Speaker 8 (01:14:38):
That by it sad.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Please do tour for this. Yeah, we're going. That's gonna
be fun too. Yeah, we're trying to, you know, get
it all together, write all that stuff. But a tour
that is necessary for this project. I guess some ideas
for that too, But the tour is necessary for the project.
And then he, you know, he got the call the

(01:15:01):
six coming. I got my yeah, man, you know he
can rap right, it's I heard. Yeah, you can wrap
you both a pretty good. I like I like to
I like to pat myself on the back to they
ain't get washed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Competitive with the verses when you like every.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
Time does it ever? Man, I don't want nobody to
look at our phone and I phone full of like
fullish off the record, fullish Ship. But it's like man home,
he's he's man, It's just like it's dope. Man, it's dope,
you know. And I'm sure now rap group of Little Wayne. Yeah,

(01:15:38):
I ain't thinking to rap group a Little Wayne. Yeah,
that's that's that's cool. I ain't boy titty boy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Rapple Little Wayne, little Wings in the rapt Hello.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
And I ain't getting washed now, I ain't getting I'm
standing on. I'm standing on business. I love it, I
love you. I'm standing on business. Man, get washed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Man, what do you think that when you look back?
I mean, you're gonna do more albums after? Like, what
do you think that these colleague growl projects will way?
What does that mean to your career?

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Your legacy? You think when you look at it? You
got the one cover with my face his tattoo, the
other cover with his face my beard. We we just
we brothers like that. Man. It was good that we
had an error where we can go back and sit
like we put some because man, the music the music,

(01:16:29):
although like all the music we do, it has a
time caps on you can like go back and kind
of remember what was going on. It's just something, you know,
really special about just working with somebody that really don't
have to do nothing no more, but still does it
every day, very passionately, at a very high level, you
know what I'm saying, And so being able to come

(01:16:50):
into that world and like I say, still sharp and
steel and you know, like if you don't know, like
he's someone that's like playing a guitar right here and
rapping it and the recording that you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
doing our type of stuff, you know, And so it's
just about not believing and having like a glass ceiling.

(01:17:11):
I think that's what this project just proved. Like it's
no such things as a glass ceiling, you know what
I'm saying. We just you know, we're standing on on
whatever we have to stand on. But they're just a
blessing man. And when you say being in a group
with little I ain't really think about it like that,
but I guess currently ghosts and ghosts, ghost ghosts, somebody

(01:17:33):
actually hit tegers like y'all need to we need to
go out with them and do some stuff that'll be
cool too. What made you do that?

Speaker 8 (01:17:39):
With the whole shame on it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Like do we ask.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
To go all in? But to go all in with
I went all the way in. I changed my tone.
I was shameoanner. I was on all that, and actually
Dollar put me on them. I wasn't on wool change.
I was somebody that would only listening to like Atlanta
music for a long time. And then I never forget
I knocked on Dollar doing and his mom was like

(01:18:06):
his doors made. When you open the door of the
steps go straight to his room. His mom like, yeah, there,
listen to something, and man, I never forget it. Bro,
you got to thank somebody from Atlanta. I want you.
I want to put you where I was. I'm young,
I'm from Atlanta and he's listening to just stors and
it's all that I don't know if yeah, so you

(01:18:29):
gotta think when I look at them, I'm not knowing.
I'm like, what video game? But he explained to me
that they trapped to That's really what he was trying
to tell me, Like, Bro, you gotta listen. He's like, Bro,
the folks you know, they don't know talking about doing
snoring and everything. So dollar, Bro, the folks trapped to Bro,
they trapped just like we trapped. Trying to tell me

(01:18:50):
there I can't even get I can't even yeah, I
can't even get you know, through it. But he kind
of the one put me in there, like, Bro, you
gotta listen home, said he doing this. They they're doing
week you know, And I was like, oh, you know,
that's how I got put on it, and then started
being like, oh damn, damn. You know what I mean
when I started being able to like read their language,

(01:19:11):
you know what I'm saying, But it did. They was
like some some street dudes, so to speak. So but yeah,
that that's what it was. To redo that, to pay
homage to them.

Speaker 8 (01:19:21):
Yeah, Collie growth too change. Thank you, brother, We thank
you appreciate your.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
One of the best the ship.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Rap rate All podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Yeah True.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
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