Rap Radar: Gucci Mane & B.G.

Gucci Mane and B.G. are a match made in trap heaven. After serving a dozen years in prison, B.G. linked with Gucci Mane for their debut collaboration, Choppers & Bricks. In his first interview since coming home, B.G. speaks on his new lease on life and musical partnership. Meanwhile, Gucci discusses his latest solo album Breath of Fresh Air, mixtape Mt.Rushmore, Takeoff, Big Scarr, “The 06 Gucci Mane” and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, it was to raporate our podcast. My name is
beat Out Elliott Wilson. Elliott is so hard to say goodbye.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Although we come to the end of the world.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yes, sir, season finale, Season finale, rapperate our podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Man, shout to the amazing people at Interval.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know we want through a lot beat out in
this on this podcast journey since twenty fifteen. But this
is the official close out of the second season of
our partnership with the good folks at Interval. Yes, Sir,
I can't believe we hear him mass but you know,
closing out at the good time, man, Howiday sees him.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Man a gift to the people, you know, a gift.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Twenty six weeks later. Man, who would have thought it?
But you got to give a shout out to like
you said, the good people are Interval Jake Samara, I'm
leaving out some names, Big Boss, any Coy, the Big
Boy Island of course. I got Martin's over there, Martin, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Lara,
Sarah over there too, yeah, Sarah, Laura of course. And
hyper House our amazing production people.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
There's the right here, man. Dyl Dylan got shot dealing.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Out absolutely, and of course we have the best photographers,
the best shooters in the game. Man, he's telling about
how the one of our best guests of the years
stole one of our photographers beat out. I tell him
about that, Man, I'm still tight about that. Burna boys
stole Nicky from us. Man boy took a liking to
Nikki Rose, Or of Photographers New York, and now she's
on the road with him. Man touching continents, passport stamps. Yeah,

(01:24):
man from b X to Berlin. So shout out to Nicki, Kenya, Steve.
He's in the mix, you know. So we we have
a good we got a good news assembly. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Don't forget our Atlanta crew.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
We got Trav and his crew and Riot Riders out
here shooting another adult female photographer we have on the
team in it. So yeah, man, we got to work
with a lot of great creatives this year. Man, it's
been exciting, man, absolutely, and especially our last episode with
two Changs, Man Chains, Speedy Recovery, the two Change l Yeah.
You saw him this past weekend, right, Yeah, I was
at some of our Basil Miami things. Sean Dickerson shout

(01:56):
to him. He girls like all the cool parties from
LA to wherever, and yeah, Wayne was there. Change was
their adapt up Change. And then that very night, I
guess he left the club and got into a really
terrible like free car smash up car accident. But you
know he's let us all know he's you know, he's
on a speedy recovery. So I just want to send
loving prayers and strength to him, and I hit tech
up and you know, he said he was recovering.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
So but yeah, we love we.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Love Change man, and we just had a great episode
with him, and I felt like that was a really
dope conversation, you.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Know, about the Collige Girl project with him and Wayne
and you know.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Way and I didn't realize that had been so long
since he was back on the Rapparado podcast, right, Yeah,
it's like, what six years? Can we take crazy crazy man?
It's been a minute. So I'm happy to have him
back on. Man, that was a really good episode. Make
sure y'all check that out.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
He could recuperate a candy lamb. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
They should just set him up in that strip club,
you know, saying give a little bend the side of
the room, you know, I mean, rest up at some
pineapple juice. Sappy a man but now we've had some
amazing episodes this year, man, you know to how the
creator obviously, what was some of your what was some
of your.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Favorites this year?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I mean everyone is my favorites, like asking, hey, what's
your favorite finger? You know, we got Jack follow.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
The Middle One, Man the Middle One.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Saus Moody, Joe Budd and Charlamagne Killer, Mike the Butcher,
and we can't even forget about last season. We did
the NB A young boy, We did Rich Paul, you
know and being a young boy two point six million, man,
don't don't mess around with the numbers. Beverage Paul is
a classic. What's that guy?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Brent fires Man teaso touchdown your favorite? Your favorite battle rapper?
He was at the spotse gche Gotti tear it down
these battle rapers, Yeah, Gotti, every fucking bar man.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Man, I thought we had a great uh wide ranging
of guests. You know, can't forget the ladies again, know
Monet and editorya Monet and the Queen and all these
other you know, multi talented artists.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Man got a couple of top tier artists.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Man, and just you know, just the consistency, Man, I
really appreciate, you know, how we approach these things, and
you know people kind of sometimes take for granted.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
You know, here's another great interview, but this is This
ain't easy, kids, This ain't easy. You know what I mean?
It damn sure is.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
And I think today's episode adds to that great catalog
of guests that we had this year. Oh, Guccie Man
and BG that sounds in sane, Gucci Man, Gucci Man
and Beg together, right, b Jizzle, what a dunke it nobody.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Would have dunck it man. Welcome home to b Gizzl Man.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
It takes me back to the cash Muddy ex Excel
days and you.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Know Vanessa dealing with those animals over there, and uh,
you know he.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Did Hot Boys covers and Jewey covers and Wade covers
and yeah, DG that did a real big man.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Came back with a full.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Natty get dreads and full hair, and you know, it's
just so great to chop it up with that brother.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
And he still stulls good man.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
He still sells good in that microphone. He definitely does.
He still has that Louisiana draw that we're known to love,
and uh, you know, he's like you said he has
a mister B and of course the united with Gucci Man.
He's had an out of a year with his new
album Breath of Fresh Air. He's you know, killing the features.
He's worked with guys like Jay Cole, the Baby. You know,
Gucci Man is a prolific uh, a prolific artist. So

(05:00):
this is like just adding to his canning of of
of records. And I don't understand how we got cool
with him, b Like we did the whole We did
the whole revolting with him a year or so ago.
And then when this run of breast with the surprise album,
you know, shout out to Ashley at Atlantic, he reached
out or said he wanted she wants us to get
the interview with him at BG BG still on, Like
what's the what's the thing we got to he's at

(05:20):
the halfway halfway house, Yes exactly, so we had limited time.
We went to Las Vegas to get it done, you know,
me and beat out to go out there and get
the story. But you know, goowap Mass, you know, very respectful,
showing a lot of love.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Man. That's crazy to know.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
The week like are cool with guwap Man, you know,
what I'm saying, He's dangerous, man. That's the thing. You
don't know. We'll never know what Gucci gonna get, gonna happy.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Gucci grow, Gucci.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Rappy, and we got rapped her Gucci, right. That was
fun to watch exactly chop it up with BG. I
got to ask that question, you know, me and me
and beat out the big fans of the Prodigy. H
n I see album rest Rest in Peace Prodigy and
it just to get to ask him about that collaboration, right,
young black entrepreneur, Yeah, young black entrepreneurs. I got to
ask him about chopping the city and the ghetto turned

(06:04):
twenty five, which he couldn't even believe. I can't believe
it's been twenty five years of that. Next year, we
also talked about life fatter, Cash Money is time in prison. Yeah,
and of course Gucci Man and his project and work
with so many artists. It's a really great episode man. Yeah,
I was really excited to hear about Gucci Man just
expressed his love and admiration for Cash Money and other
artists that he was listening to on the come up.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
And you know, it's a.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Dream for him to be making the whole record with
a beg and putting this out and it shout out
up to do some Mike will made. I heard he
tells us that he had played a key role in
getting those guys together to get the record done. Absolutely,
and also like the fact that she talked about the mixtapes. Man,
you brought up that mixtape graphic that's circulating on the
internet about Gucci not being on the Mount Rushmore. Oh yeah, yeah,
And I'm saying it's a criminal that can go up

(06:48):
on it. What do you think of that list? He
was mad the fifty cent wasn't getting enough respect, right.
I think he said, yeah, that tricked me out. I'm like, yo,
rap revisionism, that's like a subgenre, Yo. The only know
as a TV Bug's spelling, Like you said, he's Aaron spelling.
He's normally live you know about uh the big state. Man,
that's crazy. But I think Gucci deserves maybe not Mount Rushmore,

(07:10):
but maybe a bust we'll give him on his own statue.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I'm wondering, though, where's Gucci may gonna be on
these beat out end of the end of the year list.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Man, It's almost that time. Man, I'm scared for you. Man,
you're gonna be allR You're gonna changing up again what
we're doing.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
How was it looking? I said, what's coming together?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I might need security? You know, I'm making your list
of checking it twice so we'll find out real soon.
You are like like the evil say at the closet
rap at this time of year, man, with these lists, Man,
everybody's on baiting breath. Man, you know, Griselda got the
phone lines open already. You know, Griselda. I might get
died on uh a Man's eleven or something. I don't

(07:45):
know too far.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Hey, yo, beat out, Yo, you still mess it up?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Hey, Yo, you're still messing so good.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I don't see rope streets on this list. I don't
see it.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I'm waiting for that call right now. Operators are standing by,
so I know you're not gonna give me the lead,
not that yet. But what's I forget the rollout?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
So you do that? You do the artists first. That
shakes the game up right, and then you do the albums.
How do you do? Remember?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Man, I just be I just be freestyling, elliot, you know,
like I might do artists first, I'm doing songs, guests
versus and the albums. So okay, I don't know what
to come first. So artists, albums, guests versus. Yeah, and
what's the other category? Artist albums, guests versus and songs
best rap songs?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Okay, what categories? Man? Four categories at the Grammys. Man,
the beat Out it wasn't coming Man, the beat Out.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It wasn't covering. Everybody's scared, you know what I'm saying.
So that'll keep us hot while want not a little
hiatus right now. Everybody will have to tear it up
beat out going into next year. So when we return,
you know what I'm saying, we'll already have that beat
out being the most hated man of hip hop media,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
The new list is coming out, the new list.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
But in the meantime, I'm going golfer Man, Mosquito, mosquitoes, Man,
a little tobo for the rapper up boys. But we
will be back man and bring you some more greatness. Man,
I'm confident of that. But in the meantime, it's a
hell of a way to close out the year. Wants
to get a shout out to who wops out to
beat JIZZL.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yes, sir, we know you're gonna enjoy this one man.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Rap rate all podcasts. Yeah, rap right up podcasts. Yo,
it's the rap Rate all podcasts. My name is Beat Elliot,
Wilson Elliott. It's a new dynamic duo in the town.
Oh my god, we would have thought it BG Gucci Man,
he was just.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
A dynamic duo.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
These guys are legends, man, legends of hip hop, man
hip hop, all the famous man coming together.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
How does this partnership happen? Well, be not getting right
to it.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I've been a fan of BG, you know what I'm saying,
even before I even put out my first commercial album,
Like you know what I'm saying, nine eight nine and nine,
like his first taste, like all this shit I've been on,
so to me, it's been like a wishing to make
it even before I even thought about it, you know
what I'm saying, Like I know, I know he was
an artist that I like, you know what I'm saying.
And I don't really gravitate toward on a certain few artists.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
A lot of times you build younger artists, Like what
do you still see that that BG just sort of
hall of fame already still has to contribute to the game.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
We were around the same age and we've been through
a lot of the same things. Got we both got
a story BG.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
First of all, welcome home brother, man. We did some
amazing work with you in the Cash Money Days with
and that's Satin. It's just great to see you man
physically home.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
What you've been through.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Man, you man, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You've hit the ground running.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
How does it feel to be just out here and
just like getting right back to that music?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Man? It feel good. Man. There's nothing short of a blessing. Man,
you know what I mean to you know, be gone
as long as I was gone for twelve and a
half years. You know what I'm saying. It's just a
you know, come back out here. People still be receptive
to the music to even must still want to hear me, man.
I mean, it's just it let me know that the
music that I contributed past the test of time, right,

(10:48):
you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I just feel
in the man and blessed.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Were you writing a lot in prison?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, I had my I used to go through ups
and downs, you know what I'm saying. Like it was
a time where I just took like two years old
because at first I couldn't see the end, you know
what I mean. So I really thought it was over
with for me. You know what I'm saying. I'm like,
I thought they had closed the curtains. But you know,
the closer I got to the door, I kind of

(11:16):
was feeling like, damn, man, I still might have a
shot at it, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
I picked my pen back up, you know what I mean.
But yeah, I was off and on writing book.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
To answer your question, Guccie, is that also what connected
to you to like obviously you came out of your situation,
hit the ground running, like you know, to give the
brother a chance to like really get back on his
feet the right way.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
One hundred percent. I thought about like the thing people
were doing for me, you know what I'm saying, Like
Drake coming to my house when I was in the
Halfway House, just the inspiration mode, Mike Will and Dolph,
you know what I'm saying, Just like all those people,
you know what I'm saying, Like Hippie, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
They ain't had to do that, yeah, at that time
of their careers.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, so with the co record happened was at the
begetting of sort of just testing the waters here if
you guys had that chemistry, Like, what was it like
with putting that cold record together with Michae What made it?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Man?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Honestly, the core record happened. Me and Mike was in
the in the in the studio or doing the album together. Right,
he played the record. You know what I'm saying. For me,
he was like, Man, I got something I want you
to hear, and he played it and I was like, Man,
get Gucci on the.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Phone, kind of like the video, so that's close to
the l Like.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Man, I'm like, Man, I'm like, man calling Man, tell
him I need to get on their a SEP. You
know what I'm saying. Mike made it happen.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
You ain't miss a step on that record though, PG.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Nah, thank you man. I appreciate that. Man, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
And you guys had of another record, Choppers and Bricks,
that we were privy too.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Man, we actually got like a bunch of records, you
know what I'm saying. But yeah, the Choppers and Bricks,
that's definitely a super hard record man. I mean, like
he said, we both had a story this tell I've
been a fan of WIP, you know what I'm saying.
And for real, I manifested this whole album from myself.

(13:06):
You know what I'm saying. I used to be when
he went home. I just was watching. Now he was
moving and you know, watching all the moves he was making,
and I just want to follow in his footsteps, you
know what I'm saying, Because I know what I hadn't
been through was pretty much similar, right, you know what
I'm saying. And I was like, damn, man, I know
would do it. I could do it, you know what
I'm saying, especially with the drink and the lean and

(13:29):
the popping the pills and you know, just the wile
and stuff. And I was like, man, yeah, Now he
let me know, Like man, yeah, and I could be done.
So I was like, man, when I get out, man,
I got to go link up with run man and
make this happen.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
You guys have been communicating for a while when he
was behind the wall, like now the first start.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Now Mike will put it together. But Mike Will, I
was a fan of his because I always been talking
about like you know what I'm saying, We've always been
shining him out and we just you know what I'm saying,
He really put it together for me, Like, hey, you
know you need to fuck with BG, and like, hell yeah,
I wanted, you know what I'm saying, put us together.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
And actually when I was reading your book, I was
reading your book and you sent me a shout out
in the book when he was talking about I was
like like, oh, Ship, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Ship Real?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
I was like, yeah, nah, that was real when I
went when I'm telling you, when I was I read
your book twice. Actually, but when I was reading a
book and you was talking about the situation you and Julie,
you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Saying, Ship, Wait, you share what that is in case
people don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I mean, read the book.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
That's really good.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Books in your corner? Were the other artists that were
supporting you during that time?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
What doing my incarceration just you know, since I've been home.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
What you mean, why are you incarcerated?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Uh? Yeah, yeah? Most definitely my man Boosy, you know
what I'm saying. He walked pretty much the whole Vietnam
with me and my man t I. You know what
I'm saying. He was there for me. You know what
I'm saying. Throughout my big bird Man was there for me.
It was, it was, I mean, it was a few
people that.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Forget you had the moment when you was with t
I with Grand Hustle Woman. I remember we did a
cover with that when.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
You was Yeah, yeah Hustle Yeah Tip Tip co executive
produced the album with me. I wouldn't actually signed the
Groundhousse I was signing Atlantic, but yeah, t I definitely
played a part in the album and the whole process.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Even two Change. He had a song called free BG
on his last album.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Well fact, that's shout out the two chains Man, that's
my man. Man Change go way way back like two
thousand and three, two thousand and four, but yeah, Changed
my dog. He definitely was screaming free see.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Or it's on the Bricks and Choppers record.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I noticed that you made a point of saying on
the song that you're independent, right was why did you
decide to go that route instead of going like cash money?
Was it offer presented to you?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I mean, I mean, I haven't been home nothing, but
you know, two and a half months, you know what
I'm saying, not even three months yet, so you know,
I just want to that's the wall. Really, I want
to show you know what I can do on my own.
You know what I'm saying. I just ain't want to
Russian or nothing, you know what I mean, So keep

(16:08):
my options open, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, why do you think you're so decisive when it
comes to the artists.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I feel like when you make that decision you want
to rock with somebody, you just jump to it and
you execute it.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
I think it's like one of my my biggest attributes. Actually,
you know what I'm saying, not being scared to fuck
with discreets so fuck with people, you know what I'm saying.
Most artists when I was coming up, they all was like, bougie,
they're cool now, but like they was like.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I'm seriously, they wouldn't they weren't.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
They felt like there was on this high horse and
they were gonna they wasn't gonna open the door to
you know, no little artists, you know what I'm saying.
So as I always see it, like I almost never
do like be like that.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think if you do a great balance of with
ten seventeen, you're constantly you're staying active first and foremost,
then you're always building younger artists, but at the same
time you collaborate off your reputation respect you have in
the industry. The other artists want to mess with you.
We see you with Jake Cole. It's like, oh shit,
Goop and Jake Cole, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, that's me and Jacob behad post this. They had
supposed to do a song since like COVID, but it
took like two three years for us to like really
put together that one song, you know what I'm saying,
Not just that one song, but like it took two
or three years for us to make one record, you
know what I mean. But we still kept in touch.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Why do you think that's the bore for you to
kind of connect to other artists that are in the
space like currently.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I think that's what I do.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Like, you know what I'm saying. I'm a fan of music.
I make music. I consider myself a professional and my
door's open, you know what I'm saying, Beach.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
You know, obviously Gucci's always worked with new artists, But
while are you incarcerated, how are you getting hip to
the new music?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Like word the artists that you were listening to.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh yeah, man. I mean I'm a fan of music period, right,
so you know, I consider myself somebody that's part of
the community. So you know, I definitely kept my ears,
you know, open head, you know what I'm saying to
what was going on? But yeah, I was. I was

(18:05):
listening to a lot of Little Baby, a lot of
Money Bag Yo, a lot of little Dirt, you know
what I'm saying, Shot Glizzie Migos I was listening to.
I was listening to pretty much everything what I'm saying. Yeah, no,
that's a fact, I say.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
You with a new joint of Kevin Gates and Sexy
Red Man.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout after my man Gates. Man. He
reached out to me and was like, man, I got
a record. You know what I'm saying for you to
get on the record was actually men Gates on it
at first, you know what I'm saying. And then when
I heard it again, well, he reached out and say
he was putting Sexy Red on the record. I was like,
oh shit, that's gonna make it even hotter, you know
what I'm saying. And then when I heard it again,

(18:45):
she was on it and she killed it.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, and you're still working on your own stuff too hard.
The Street's two point five and three on the way.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Oh yeah. Actually, when me and WIP coming first with
the shoppers and Bricks, you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's gonna set the tone for everything else, you know
what I'm saying. So the Gucchin and BG mixtape coming.
Then I got a mixtape coming called Live from the
Halfway House. And then I got The Heart of the
Streets two point five, which produced by Mike Will made it,

(19:13):
he did the whole album. And then I got The
Heart of the Streets three. And I'm just I'm just
bailing my catalog.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Man, say what, speaking of the catalog, where does the
hunger come from? Just you already a Hall of famer.
You all fame with the Hot Boys, your Hall of
Famer solo like you bought the world blain bling.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I mean, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I've been gone man, Like well, you know, to my credit,
I was able to put in a lot of work
before I went the chair. I think I got like
thirteen fourteen solo albums, like three High Boy albums, couple
of Choppa City Boy albums, a bunch of mixtapes and
all that, But I felt like I was on the

(19:52):
sideline for like twelve and a half years. Ain't feel
like I was. I was, you know what I'm saying.
So I feel like I'm playing ketchup what I'm saying,
And a lot of people, probably you know, thought I
lost it, right, So you know, I just want to
show that, you know, it's it's it's in me. It's
not on me, you know what I mean. So yeah,
and I got a lot to say, I got a

(20:13):
lot to talk about, got a lot to get off
my chest. So yeah, it's gonna take all that, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You know he still had it.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Nah, you gotta strike when the fire is still hot,
and you gotta go, like you gotta go now. And
everybody missing, Everybody want to hear him, you know what
I'm saying. That include me in the whole like community,
and like the young kids need to hear the story
of like you know what I'm saying, Okay, I'd have
been through this and just the good side of it
and just the bad side of it, you know what
I'm saying, Like they need to hear that, not just

(20:43):
kids who ain't even ever heard of BG before you
know what I'm saying. And plus I was like, you
still got all of us who grew up listening to him.
You know what I'm saying, He inspired all these artists.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
How competitive is it when you guys are in the studio?
Make you want to still shark and still? When he
told me, let's do the table, start sending me records.
You know what I'm saying, it came apparent in me
like soon, like down all these songs hard. You know
what I'm saying, I ain't lying to.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
It was a couple of records that I sent him
and he sent back that I don't want to change
my birth.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I called him like, wow, man, you crushed me on this.
I think I might need to go back in, but
I ain't go. You can't do that. We can't do that.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
No, that's a fact that's here to hit me, Like,
oh man, you got off on this record.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I'm like, that's what's up.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
But it was a friendly competition, but I think we
pushed each other to you know what I'm saying, go hard,
And it came out to be what it is.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Because it hasn't been any previous collaborations. Right before it's
just crazy because you know, you guys have work with
a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Of people for.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
It was overdue. It was overdue.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Speaking of Calo, you talking about go Out. You won't stop, man,
We can't keep tracking. How many mixtapes to your albums
you have been I'll say it earlier, like when you
put the Call that Black record out January.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Look at it now.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's like you put all these records out that led
to Breath for Fresh Air. It's almost like you spent
the whole year rolling out an album.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Was that the intent?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
No, it wasn't the intent.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
But I kind of got inspired after you know, I
started singing scringing together like two or three Ruggords and
they start having success. I'm like, I need to keep
it going, you know what I'm saying. And then I
just like I'm gonna just push myself. And then I'm like,
I'm gonna drop problem in June is July because I
had a lot of good Ruckers in and sequence. But
then I'm like, nah, I'm gonna wait. The ten something team.
It was just, you know what I'm saying, It just

(22:33):
made sense. You never just so that's just.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Really what it is.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Maybe some people think I waited too long, you know
what I'm saying, Because you're like, Okay, after you came
with this rook and and this record, aren't you going
just drop off? I'll take you. But I was having
fun just dropping the singers like you were saying, so
I just kept going.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Nothing you did. I thought it was cool. Is you
kind of paid homise to your history?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Like with the videos you went back to the Atlanta Braids, Jersey,
the Yellow Women, they like what made you pay?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
How much? Kind of to yourself and your legacy in
a sense.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Because everybody else be doing it, you know what I'm saying,
people making hits out of your song, sampling your songs,
and like I'm like, let's say BG and master P
for instance. You know what I'm saying, I would be
sampling all these songs.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
To me.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
It's like, man, I'm big fans of them. You know
what I'm saying. The old stuff they used to make.
You know what I'm saying, because it was part of
my It's part of my life, you know what I'm saying,
part of my high school years, my trap years, you
know what I'm saying. Like I did a lot of
stuff to those records.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
So I feel like that's a cheat code. You feel
what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. But so
I'm like, even though they didn't do it, I'm like,
I'm gonna do it. Then you feel what I'm saying.
And that's what my tip that do it, my tempt
the doing it right.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Like Elliott say, you had a busy year this year,
Gucci like the Breath of fresh Air that title, like
what does that represent?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
You have the family on the cover?

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yes, I understand. It was just a lot of darkness,
not saying darkness, you know what I'm saying, but a
lot of just death and darkness, you know what I'm saying.
Just I was just seeing like Lowse takeoff and Scar
and that really golf take off, and you know what
I'm saying, Those really hit me hard, you know what
I'm saying. So it was just like made me appreciate
my family and made me want to document.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Me and my two little kids. I just you know
what I'm saying, because in my wife too, right, because
the album I was listening to and you know, I
really enjoyed it. It sounded like a launching pad for
a lot of new voices like you always do. But
it also felt like a lot of cautionary tails in
there because he had like broken hearted business not personal
Internet chatter, like was that your mission?

Speaker 4 (24:25):
I said, this was not gonna be like an album
when I try to like, you know, not talk about
you know, like you know what I'm saying, Like to
all the people that's talking about drilling and spinning, you
know what I'm saying. Just like, Okay, Gucci came out
with the album that's talking about going out to eat,
flying on the plane. You know what I'm saying, going
shopping with his kids. Just different topics so artists don't
have to keep regurgitating the same topics. You know what

(24:47):
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, one thing in particular that the intro must be
me very powerful record, and you kind of addressed, like,
you know, what is your responsibility of artists? Your artists
like go a certain way or something's don't go right
when the like what made you hit that topic head on?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
It feel like you had to you wanted to address it.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
I guess it was on my mind, you know what
I'm saying, Like you get blamed for like helping the
artists you get blamed, you see what I'm saying. So
it's like you can't win, you know what I'm saying.
You take somebody from like a bad situation, you try
to help them, you know, you're a mentor, you lean
by example. But soon as something bad happened to them,
they say, you know, your labor cursed you the reason,

(25:26):
you know, But I'm the one taking any chances with
these people. You know, nobody else will help, and that's
my way of giving back. I knew that was my plan.
But you know what I'm saying, it's weird to me
that like that, people that don't help got out all
the things the same.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, but since like artist you pick, it's like you're
competing and some sort of bidding war for them. You
find these talent early before most people.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Exactly, I ain't. You know what I'm saying. I'm not
chasing records. I'm finding talented artists and saying, okay, regardless
of what you got going on, let's just be from here.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah. So it does bother you when people blame you
for your artists going to prison or getting locked up
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
I think it comes with the terror joy, right, you know,
I don't agree with it, you know what I'm saying, but.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, you can understand the perspective. But it felt important
to address that to say, hey, look, yes, that's what makes.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
It what I had to put it into music, you
know what I'm saying, Like, you can't just take these punches.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
And what am I too?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Like it seemed like, you know, when you first came out,
like it's like there's only as rumors. You look different,
you're so focused, you're doing certain things, but you haven't
stopped on that path. And I saw one quote you
sell on Instagram. It said I was praying and fastening
in the pen for a second chance, but I can't
fumble the bag.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
No I can't.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
No.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I remember that post because I was just thinking, like,
not even those second chance me, I had like five, six, eight,
nine chances, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
this last chance right here, I can't fun with this chance.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
How do you feel in terms of that beg Like,
do you feel like you know?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Because what you're going through it is like, you know,
a lot of times people glorify certain things, but you
did a real bit. You did real time, you did
real time away and toring through all these scles, is like,
how important does it feel like that you have to
now seize this moment that you're finally back outside, oh.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Man, because I know it could have been much worse,
you know what I'm saying. Like you know they were
trying to give me twenty five years at one point,
you know what I mean, and you know, just just
man that to get another chance at it, man, Like,
I know this my last chance. You know what I'm saying.
I Like he said, Man, I had seven eighty nine chances.

(27:27):
You know what I'm saying. So you know how I
was able to really sit on and understand you know
what I'm saying, and just you know, get in tune
with myself and growing just the fall man Like when
you're in that cell and bosting like that man and

(27:48):
you know, taking away from your family, you know, taking
away from your career, taking away from just everything you love,
and you really have time to just really sit down
and think. You know what I'm saying, and you realize
what's important, you know, and I finally get it.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Did you said when you got out of jail felt
like you woke up from a bad dream. You talk
about your experience while you was locked up.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
I mean, what about it?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
One cold you say you see some real things. You
referenced that in the lyrics, and like, was you kind
of incarcerated in one space the whole time?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Right too?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
For like I was actually on tour, man, they had
me on. I did my I did my time in
like eight different prisons. I'm so you know, every time
I got in trouble, I was getting shipped. You know
what I'm playing. So I was started off in both
my Texas, ended up in Kentucky. They shipped me to Pennsylvania,

(28:48):
shipped me to South Carolina. I was in Florida. I
ended it in California.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Cali was the last one I saw, the Cali. Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I was pretty much I've been around.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
But like, people don't realize that this is a real situation.
These are real situations like being across rerated to doing
with the stuff you and just we have dealt with, right.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yeah, definitely serious.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, nah, people losing their life behind it, wall man.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Real ain't nothing to play with.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, no, that's a fact.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
How did the other inmates react to seeing you in prison?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I mean, shit, you know I was one of the guys,
you know what I'm saying. Like, I mean, you know,
at the end of the day, you know when when
when you know, when you go to jail, you strip
the you know that the jewelry, you know the cause,
you know the fame. You just a number. I was
three one nine six nine three four, you know what

(29:41):
I'm saying. So you know, I and I did mind
a GP you know what I'm saying. So it's like, yeah,
I mean, nah, it just was me, you know what
I mean. It's you know, it's some people you know
that that that see you and and see the person
they see on TV. But then it's up you know,
good man, who know you're a man first, you know

(30:02):
what I'm saying. And that's how I want to be
treated as a man first, you know what I'm saying.
Fuck Beach, you know this that like I'm you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
How do you think your pin involved from the chopping
in the city, chopping in the city's days till now? Like,
how do you think you've evolved as a writer?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, you know I ain't never been the most lyrical, right,
That's why I.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Need you on that autumneurs.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Just just tell my story pretty much, you know, talk
about you know what it's like journaling for me, you
know what I'm saying. So I'm talking about you know
what I'm going through, what I see, you know what
I'm feeling, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Like, Yeah, what was those catch money like years like
for you, Like you know you gotta set that matter
was going to take over the game nine nine in
two thousands and y'all did that, like you and the
whole crew hot boys, You're part of legendary group.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Like what was that life for y'all to like really
impact the game?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Really, I just want to talk about you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
We don't live in the past, right he is no
shoppers and bricks.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
It's definitely December fifteen.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
December fifteen. How many we don't get to hear the
full thing? Yeah, the full thing? So give us a
insight go out with the album.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
What could we expect?

Speaker 4 (31:26):
All kind of different producers, you know what I'm saying,
From Mike Will to at L Jacobs, you know what
I'm saying. So producers just turned me on to I
never worked with before. They were seeing the fire beats
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Ok, Yeah, and there's a current Scar album you've got
to put out just now to right, Yes, that's just
the posthumous.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Socially, Yeah, the Frozene. Yes, he got a trilogy. You know,
he got the secret Weapon, he got Big grimd Weep
already did this went go so like seven hundred thousand
units already?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Then he got the secret weapon. Night just dropped Frozene.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
So Peter Scar long Litle de Legions.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
The song that you put out last year, let it
the take off. It was really poignant, Like how hard
was it making that record like that?

Speaker 4 (32:11):
I don't I don't know. It seemed like there was
my really crying through that song.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I just wanted to.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Express the people, like, you know, this person was important
to me, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't about
how much the song screaming and seiling. I just wanted
to let the world know, Hey, this this you know
what I'm saying, Like, I can't let the day go
by without y'all knowing like this, my doubt, this hurt me.
This is what I'm feeling, like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Because it happened like almost a month apart.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, it was hard. That's still that's still something that
you know, I'm dealing.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
With, right, Yeah, with Vegas right now, go up there.
So you had a line you said, I got so
much catching Vegas. I feel like I'm Elvis.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
In Vegas at the top.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
So the video you shoot at the poems and yeah,
I got a big connection with Vegas. Like I made
Eliminade in Vegas. I don't know how long ago it
was when Eliminade was out, but that was just like
on one of my trips that I used to go
hard at. You know what I'm saying. And I still
go to the same hotel. I still stay in the
same room. And I know that was like eleven twelve

(33:07):
years ago. It's the same routine. You know what I'm saying.
I'm still making records at the same place, the same studio.
It's still going. That's why I said, shit like Elvis,
you know what I'm saying, I'm still going.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I think you like the shopping possibilities of the Vegas provides,
you know, saying the money.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
It's my spot, be honest, like seriously, like I really
love performing in Vegas. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
They love me, they supporting me.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
It's a beautiful it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
It was a Dre's nightclub, but Dreda's nightclub.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Definitely respect them. And you know what I'm saying, they
showed me a little but before them, just like the
whole community of Vegas that's been supporting me before that,
you know what I'm saying, they always want to hear.
Speaking of performances, Gucci, man, we saw it's a legendary
performance with you and t I a couple of months back.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
You know, you guys had friction in the past, but
you reconciled on stage in Atlanta. You talk about that,
and while it was important for that to happen.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
It was a long time overdue, to be honest, And
you know what I'm saying, I feel like both us
got a legendary stance in Atlanta, both us and did
a lot for the city. You know what I'm saying,
I'm glad that we did that, right.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
That's a very moment.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I don't know if you so go up this thing
online they were talking about to mixtape my Rushmore that
put Future fifty cent a little way and Jez. The
biggest OUTCRYSA was it was like you got to get
up on that, on that, on my Rushmore? What's your
take on like if you have to do your own
mistate my Rushmore? Who who belongs there in your mind?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I definitely belong on Inny Mountain rimore of anything. That's
just my opinion. I'm biased, you know, but you're not blind.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
I got different criteria that what I judge than proud
of what you would judge or somebody else might judge,
or the popular opinion might judge. What you mean by
that just in terms of how you view like all,
Like I said, for even with BG or the artist
that I like before I really put out my first
professional album. You know what I'm saying two thousand and five. See,
I remember in two thousand and three listening. I remember

(35:07):
the CDs I used to listen to. It was BG chopping,
sitting in the Ghetto. That sitting in the ghetto, it was,
it was it was when you left and you was
on your own. I had an independent life off the
cash miny. First one listen to that CD and uh,
I think I listened to Little John Dat Sideboys with
Post Choice.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I remember that playing g a yes no no no
no no no no no no no no no.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Little John had had a CD by itself. They came
out and they had a church like on the intro
with Jada kids, you know what I'm saying, And fifty
came out. Then the three CITs and I used to
be doing my thing, you know what I'm saying, going
from Atlanta back to my home. Three those my three
no from Atlanta to Alabama. Well, my granddaddy stayed in
ten seventeen, but the it was my three CDs. And

(35:51):
I used to be using this girl car and in
the three CDs I had bought and Birmingham Record Store,
and I just every time I get in the car
to the three CDs, I used to rotate yep. And
I'll be coming back down twenty with them three cities.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
So to me.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
But what made me like those artists was it wasn't
like I said, it wasn't about the lyrics. It's the story.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, you feel I can relate to this.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Story, listen to you and get rich of that triump
anything like that. I need to be around. I need
to tell my story. Yeah, my story important.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
We'll ever get to tell it. But it's interesting though
about the boy you kind of told in a lot
of ways, was this thing called the mixtape, right, whatever
that means, right, and we looked at it that.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Was the East Coast thing.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
But you was to me the most prolific of the
South to kind of really use that format to express yourself.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah, I honestly was like the only thing I can
take control of, you know, the major. You got control
of your album. I got control of this mixtape, so.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I can rhame over whatever I want.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Yes, I can drop it whenever I want. I don't
got to worry about you saying I'm gonna push your back.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I can't push it back.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
It's already out out. Yeah, they got it in their cars.
But as Gucci just alluded to, you know, listening to
Chopping City Together. Next year, it's turned twenty five, BG,
what do you think about the impact that had?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Five Way five man? Five years?

Speaker 1 (37:09):
What do you remember making that album in like the
impact of it?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Damn, man, I mean, it'd be hard for me to
remember twenty five minutes, you know, to remember Nah, But
I just I mean, man, I remember the camaraderie you

(37:34):
know that we had at a time you know what
I'm saying, Like, you know, we all used to just
support one another being in a studio at the same time.
You know, if I was in the studio, you know,
Fresh was in their shoes, and that Wayne was in there,
ls and there. It's not a slim you know, and
we all you know, contributed to each other's solo projects,
you know what I'm saying. So I think this was

(37:57):
maybe like the I don't know, maybe the second third
album on our deal or whatever. But yeah, I just
remember just going in there really just doing me, man,
just picking up from where I left off off the
first Chapper City album, because I dropped the first original
chaper City in ninety six, you know what I'm saying.

(38:18):
So when I did Chappa City in the Ghetto that
was like ninety nine. You know what I'm saying, you.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Had a major distribution. Everybody's looking yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, So it just was, you know, picking up from
where I left off with Chapel City, you know what
I'm saying, and just you know, telling my story, you know,
telling New Orleans story. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
It's crazy because that's your fourth album, but a lot
of people look at it almost debut.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they thought yeah yeah, and yeah that
because I had the true story. Then the Chapa City.
Then it's all on you Volume one, then it's all
on your Volume two, then the chap for Real.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Just what inspire you though, like before you started getting
even with cash? Like what inspired you as a kid
coming up in terms of hip hop?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I mean, you know, I come up on UGK, Skull
Face A Ball and MJG. You know, Dayton Family, Top
of the Family, Wow, like SPIKEE one Pop. I was
listening to cool g rap you know. I was listening

(39:29):
to all that in a bunch of local artists, you know,
Pim Dadded you NLF. You know what I'm saying. Just
I was big on the New Orleans culture too.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
But it reminds me of one of meet being beat
out from Queens one of my favorites that that Prodigy
album and I see you're on the album him when
I went back to Lewis, How did that come together?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
How did that situation?

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Prodigy reached out man, he was he was a fan
of a Chappa City in the ghetto, you know what
I'm saying, And he reached out the bird man and
was like, man, I'm trying to link up with beg
Man and Bird pulled up on and was like, man,
oh you called man.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
I'm like, what mess with everybody? Mess with everybody? Back then,
you couldn't get a cash feature.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
It was hard.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
It was hard.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Can you turn down?

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Like, like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (40:27):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I grew up with the opportunity only think people are
talking about this soon in the game. You all grew
up about hip hop and how much you know. You're
so clear on like the lineage of where you come
from with your just culture.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
I'm super inspired about the whole cash money cash, But
Shlim and Baby did like definitely what made me want
to get in the game. You know what I'm saying.
I was listening to the to them bgms. I remember
them cookouts. Who was having and not? I graduated in
ninety eight, you know what I'm saying. So I remember
not to nine someone. I remember not the eight something.

(40:59):
I remember, but when people were playing Beach, I remember
having these d CDs, you know what I'm saying. And
I remember what they were doing to my neighborhood and
how people were like adopting these nicknames of people you
feel what I'm saying, and it just inspired all of us.
But it definitely made me think, like, you know, like, Okay,
I ain't got to just sit on the block. What
if I tried to put up on label? What if
I made these niggas up under me?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
My artists?

Speaker 4 (41:22):
That's what That's what me and my friend, that's what
we tried to do. You know, that's what made me.
You know what I'm saying, It like a damn like
they shine, like let me try to you know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Saying, It's possible.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
It's possible.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
You know what I'm saying, BG what records from Gucci? Man?

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Did you gravitate towards.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
The Black Tea records? The Wasted was really one of
my favorite rights, you know what I'm saying. But that's
the whole point. I mean, he got so much work,
you know what I'm saying to you, Just gonna pop
that ship in and let it ride, you know what
I'm saying. And that's the type of artist that I
like listening to. You know nowadays, you know you one record, two,

(42:02):
you know what I'm saying, three records, But you know
I don't like skipping and ship you know, you.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Want to ride out to the album?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Man? Yeah, you you you That's what the music is
all about, right, you know what I'm saying. That's what
making the album is all about. You know what I'm saying,
giving people something that they can pop in and just
ride so instead of just being able to ski. That's
what we was able to do with the Shoppers and
Bricks album.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Focused focus the Christmas gift, the Christmas.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Gift, and it's crazy because that's what he was like, Man,
like this this is gonna be a gift to the streets.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
You know what I'm saying, because I feel like it's
a little light out there, like people do the big
fourth quarter releases, but this is dope to have you
guys come together and deliver this.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I like, I like, I like unexpected ship. Yeah, okay,
just going with the flow. A lot of artists can't
do that. Yeah, it takes them two years make one album.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
And somebody told me that too, because I was They
were like, man, how many songs y'all got on there?
They're like, I'm like, man, we got fourteen songs on that.
They was like, ain't no way y'all did fourteen songs
that fast? I'm like, yeah, like that's what we do,
you know what I'm saying. And I'm talking about Man,
this shit so hard.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I mean, especially when you talk about what Guop's catalog,
it's like your marathon.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
It didn't keep up because.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
I was sending him the records right and then he
was like, man, I'm going to the studio tomorrow, and
and he knocked out five of them in one day.
You know what I'm saying, shut them right back. I'm like,
oh shit, he a machine, just like you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I'm like, okay, let me get back on my ship.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Nah. It was it was It was fun doing that.
I wish we was able to be in there together,
but that time coming, like I said, I'm still in
the halfway house, you know what I'm saying. So we
had to work, you know, via sending shit back and
forth to each other. But we was able to pipeline
over the phone and you know, bounce ideas back and
forth off each other. So it was just like we
was in there together.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Some bucket lists. Like bucket list, I just did some
of the artists that you know, and started rapping. I
was listening to him that I know I liked it,
you know, like one my personal favorites and all my
homeboys know that. So to me, it was just like
a bucket list thing. I would listen to the Ruggers
as a straight fan, like I'm hearing the ship before
anybody else here.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I can't wait to hear what Beg says on this.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
I'm like, you know what I'm saying. I'm telling him, like,
send me more. I'm gonna get on every rucker. It
ain't a rock he send me that I didn't wrap on.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
He said, they gonna keep going like that, But how
do you stay so shock with it? Grew up? Like
what what's what's the reservoir? Like, why do you tell me?

Speaker 4 (44:35):
He's like my alternative was like was the streets? You know,
So if this is my business and this what I
what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying. I'm pushing.
I'm pushing my music and I'm pushing my artists.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
You know, because nothing that went crazy online when all
three thousands said that, you know, he get older, he
don't really know what to rap about. Like you know,
now we're in the world now where rappers can't get
older and still contribute, Like what.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
I saw that, and I saw what Wayne said this
response to that, and uh, you know what I'm saying,
I'm for the three years old, so about to be
for just saying like you know, basically basically like you
know what it is be to wrap about your life
when you know you're afford this. You know what I'm saying.
But I'm looking from a different viewpoint. You know what

(45:16):
I'm saying. I didn't have the success of one hundred
three thousand.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Oh, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
So I ain't coming down from the high, you know
what I'm saying. And I ain't chasing the light. You
know what I'm saying. I'm just doing what I'm doing,
and I know that some of the stuff that I'm
doing is resonating to the people who I want to reach.
And I can't reach everybody physically, so I reach them
like the ways I can. And I'm cool with that.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
So how can an artist at this point maintain a
legendary career like you guys have.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Be a legendary person?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Nah, that's a fact. Just really being consistent man, and
being authentic originality, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
that's that's to me is my you know how I
see longevity or the definition of having longevity. It's just originality, authenticity,

(46:09):
you know what I'm saying. Consistency, you know what I'm saying,
like not you know, filowing a trend. You know what
I'm saying, Like because everything that works for why it
might not work for me. Everything that work for you know,
you as as a host might not work for him
as a whole.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I know who you are, you man, like, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
This has been your favorite collaboration as you've done Gucci,
because you've done a lot of collaborations up there the top.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I was just thinking, that's the first time you've did
it with someone that influenced you.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
I guess it is like it's instead of me trying
to help somebody career. But yeah, but it kind of
worked the same way. He got the same youth for
spirital this do it, and he came to me with
it like I'm gonna use the person initiated, you know.
He like, let's do a tape, and I'm the type
of person like, you know, let's do.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
It, say leus.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yes, he had to think about it or ied the
idea I'll call you back tomorrow. You were like, let's
do it, and we right on top of it.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Gucci, obviously people been in fluenced by you, But why
are people so obsessed with the two thousand and six
Gucci man. That's the Gucci man who was like they
know what came with Hardy Killed Chicken talk.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Yeah, it was that part of my life. I'm tearing, like, man,
that was. That was That's a serious like you know
what I'm saying. I had a whole bunch of like
parts of my life. There a lot what was going on,
you know what I'm saying. But at that part of
my life twenty five and twenty six years old, like
he was up. That's the best way I can describe it,
because I had a real Macavelian approach to life, you

(47:50):
know what I'm saying. And I was just playing my card.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Absolutely, it's dope now, man. Just to see you guys together, man,
it's legendary. Absolutely, and I'm talking about that. You should know,
Gucci man, you got your own day as well. In
Atlanta ten seventeen.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
That was a surprise, you know what I'm saying. That
was that wasn't you know what I'm saying, Like the city,
the city gave me my flowers. I appreciate that. You
know what I'm saying. That was doping.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
How do you celebrate ten seventeen Day for next year?

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Next year?

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Ten seventeen Day?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I'm not sure yet. Okay, I'm not sure. It's a
holiday now, so we figure that out. That's what just
so when you touched down after where do you think
you're gonna lay your head after the halfway house?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And what city you think you're gonna live in?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Oh, I'm actually when I was in jail, I was
playing on building my dream house in Atlanta, going to
the Black Hollywood that. Yeah, I'm out here in Vegas
right now. You know what I'm saying. That's why I
got released her. So I'm gonna live. I said I

(48:57):
was gonna live out here for about a year. Yeah,
fill it out and see if I like it. I'm
gonna keep a spot out here. But I always wanted
to go back to Atlanta, man, you know what I'm saying,
because I had a spot out there in like two
thousand six, two thousand and seven, I had a condo
out there when I when I gave it up and
went back to the city, that's when everything went downhill,

(49:17):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
And fuck it, a's to jail.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I should have stayed in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, I'm definitely I'm gonna go down bottom man today.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
And when did you go to hair out?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Man?

Speaker 2 (49:31):
It's different baby legendary, oh man, you know.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
And I had already had breize, right, you know what
I'm saying. And I ain't wanna cut my ship. So
I actually had had locked it up New Year's two
thy eleven, and uh, I ended up going to jail
in like March of two thy eleven before it locked up.
And uh, in the beginning, I thought I was gonna

(49:57):
end up getting like a year a day, you know,
five years max, you know what I'm saying. But you know,
when they want to talking to football, I was like, man,
I definitely got to keep this ship. It ain't going nowhere.
And you know, it told my story right because when
I left, it was, you know, way up here. I

(50:21):
came home and it's way down there. You know what
I'm saying. And I'll be looking at pictures throughout my incarceration,
you know what I'm saying. I'm like damn man, that
hell really let me know, how did some time?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Real? What was the first thing you did when you
came home.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
When checked into the half way.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Gotta be right, gotta be on point.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, I ain't. Ain't jaywalking. I did exactly with that already,
told me you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I know
I did stop. I stopped and grab something to eat.
But I called the jay and made sure that they
called the halfway out.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Let them know and let them know that I might
quick bite, quick bite, but I be there.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
But yeah, I went, I went checking into the halfway house.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Do you have to do that?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
I should be getting out of there probably in another week.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Many this is the time for the holty, just the
time for the album.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Choppers and Bricks and bricks, man, you didn't grew out
another one.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Man, And it made so much sense. Man, you got
brick Squad and you got chopping City. It's like ship man,
choppers and bricks. It makes sense like that's yeah, that's
streets got ahead of man. I know they ready for that.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Absolutely absolutely ready. Man to the legends. Man continue to
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