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Speaker 1 (00:01):
R and B Money.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Thanks vologized. We are the authorities on all things R
and B. Ladies and gentlemen, what's going on? I am
Tankdale and this is the R and B Money Podcast,
the authority on all things, all things, all things R

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and B. We have, we have a treat, we have
a vocal gift. We have elite, elite company in the building.
I mean just I mean, I mean listen when when
they were casting for the Clark Sisters. If you know
anything about the Clark Sisters, who are gospel music royalty,

(00:55):
but to any singer, they are royalty period.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I don't care what religion you are.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Facts.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
They had to call they had to call this youngling. Uh, Ladies, gentlemen.
Rby music community makes some noise.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Thank you, thank you, thank you you call.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Oh start there, We're gonna start there.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We're gonna start there.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
We're just gonna get.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
We're gonna celebrate you from the moment we start here.
You as a singer is just something different different.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
I appreciate that, I really do.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
And I think for me, it's like both of you guys.
You might not remember the first time I met you.
I know, you know, but you guys have been nothing
but supportive and so kind and just so loving and
supportive of what I do, and so I just I
just gotta thank you guys for that, because you guys
were so instrumental in like those earlier years.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, I feel like I'm in like the same classes
like Obama. I haven't. I haven't sag have you.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I have not called me personally Quincy Jones. You know
when I saw at Quincy Jones, I wasn't invited, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
But then you took what you took over.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
You literally took over.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
He started doing a Quincy Jones impersonation that everybody was
dying over.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You know what, can I tell that story because I'm mad?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I got the video, Yo, I got the video.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Upset with my guy? You know.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
God, uh comedian, I know you're.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
Talking about I know, I said, Okay, Chris Tucker.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, the money.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Talks himself, Chriser.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It was by far one of one of the greatest comedian. Absolutely, Okay,
So this is start. We'll start there as I going
to my start.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
So this is the I mean, no, this is back
in disrespect.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's not just it.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
We did this a lot a lot because he's a
nice guy. Mind just comes straight.

Speaker 8 (03:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
So we're having a good time at a Quincy Jones.
It's like, you know, anybody who's helped forge the foundation
of R and B music, it's there right there there,
like it's it's crazy. And so Chris Tucker gets on
the mic and he starts doing this Quincy Jones impersonation.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
And I'm sitting back to guys, I wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
I wasn't even you.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Know, it's just fine, uh as a plus one as
I was, I'm standing watching him do this impersonation. And
mind you, I have been studying Quincy and trying to
do a Quincy impersonation only because of Jamie Fox, who.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Does Jones so many people. So he started made me
want to learn.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I would try to do my
Quince impersonation and study how Fox would do it.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
And so Tucker starts doing this Quincy Jones impersonation that
I'm not excited about.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
That I'm not happy with, you know, and he's he's
better than this.

Speaker 8 (04:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
So it's like a Michael Jackson Quincy.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
He's goods good.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
High It wasn't authentic.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
It's a cadence too.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
It's a cadence all of that.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's all of that.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
And when and I.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Was sitting at the piano when this was happening, mind you,
I had I don't know what if I had just
sang or I was about to sing, and then.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I grabbed the mic and I grabbed the other.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Mic, the other one, the one that Quincy, the one
that Stevie has.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Nobody knew I had the mic, and so I grabbed
the mic and I started talking, you know, you're really
not doing any justice man, just talking me. So he looked,
he said, he was like, I'm the real quick listen, No,
I'm the real qu So we go back and forth.
And so what happened was Quincy thought when I started

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doing my impersonation of him, he thought that somebody had
started playing a recording my you know what I'm saying,
playing in search from Quincy Jones.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
Because he was saying things that like Quincy would say,
you know you behind is.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Man not solid man.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It don't happen right, So Quincy saw because he sits
in the same so you have to circle around and
get it.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
When I got to him, he said that that was
you got that ship out.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
He goes, you got that shut out man?

Speaker 4 (05:56):
You up.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Anyway?

Speaker 5 (05:58):
That was you know, that was that was such, that
was that was So that was a really great night.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
That was a great listen.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
I was so happy to be in that space.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And I know you know you you you frequent those
spaces because like you just have a different a different
kind of gift, man, Like that's just out of this
world and too, you know, to the Quincy Joneses and
Jimmy My Godfather's Man My.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Musical to some of the biggest people who have ever
ever done.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
It on every level like they look to you, which
is cool.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean it's crazy. So we what we like to do.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
We like to start at the very beginning, like like
when did you know? Or when did somebody tell you
you got something?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Let's start there and then work our way up.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
To yeah, the White House.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Kennedy forget for just a couple of times.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
You know.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
I can say this really quickly because I think we
I know, we come from from very similar backgrounds.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I can't remember what what are you?

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Church?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
No church? I say that because sometimes it can.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Be very difficult for us to talk about ourselves because
we feel.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Like that's not being humble. And that's how I.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Think we were raised right in a way.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
And so it's like I have I had to almost
it took a while for me to be able to
recognize you have this God size gift because God gave
it to you. So it's okay for you to lean
into it as long as you continue to.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Like you know, give it right back.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
But you can't like almost diminish your gift because you're
diminishing God.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So I think, yeah, we weren't always thought to raise
our hands.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
And so you know, like this platform, like you know,
this is for you to raise your hand and say
this is this is.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
What I did.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Okay, So White House twice, standing ovation by you're.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Gonna look at the Niggash House.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's fine, Fine, getting gonna go through your security.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
The first time. That's why I got the White House
the first time.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Literally why somebody else so.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Many people could not pass the background check. That's literally
how it happened the first time. Okay, So a lot
of going but going to the beginning, what you say.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
I said, So a lot of singers.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Saying you have to remember at that time under Obama,
they were it's like any any little tiny thing, it's
like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, because they were it. Yeah,
that's a whole other conversation. But but yeah, the beginning, man,

(09:11):
the beginning, beginning.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
You know, my earliest memory is music.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
So, like my mom said, like at two years old,
I was harmonizing, like and to me, like, when I
look at somebody who's two years old, it's like that
was scary.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
They like could find harmony like that. But I was
stay on there.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
No, you know, I was like I remember this little
wooden piano that that my parents had gotten me, and
you know, I'll be making little songs for my sisters
around three or four years old.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
So my earliest memories were music.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
But I say all that to say my parents both
very musical in the church. I just only saw them
use it in church and that was it. So I
thought that's what I would do. That was that I
didn't really see any you know, me having it as
a career. I just thought I would just serve in church.
And it really wasn't until when I went a way

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to college. I joined this this girl's group, and that
was like my first taste of just like being in
the studio. It was it was like the gospel version
of Destiny's Child.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
It was called Forgiven and we were all hot. Yeah,
like we were. We were cute.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
We were cute. We were four cute girls.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
And you know, I say that because we were packaged
that way and.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
We were we had a little deal on the table
for Black Ground Records.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Lord says, anyway.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
But how does how does that work in the gospel right?
Because obviously is that a thing where you're like you said,
we were packaged as a group that could sing, but
also because of what the group looked like, is that
a thing in gospel music? It can be, it can
be okay.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
And I think at that time too, it's like, you know,
that was just the and as we know in this industry,
people are always looking for the next what arguments is,
so they're winning, we need a gospel version of that.
And and to me, Mary Mary came and that's what
even though it's just the two of them, it was
that kind of energy, beautiful, you know, vibrant, actually dressed

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like sexy, which was like, you know, very difficult, so
you know, but but yeah, so that was really my
first taste of just being in what I would say
the industry of just going to the studio and writing
and producing and just that feeling just like Okay, this
is it.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
But you're not in Los Angeles at this point.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
No, I'm going to school with this HBCU in Huntsville,
Alabama called Oakwood College Oakwood University.

Speaker 9 (11:41):
Now they know you in Huntsville out so like A
and M that whole, yeah, all of it.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I'm a product of the Bible Belt. Wow, yeah period.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's where my career started, like promo shows. Yeah,
all through the Bible Belt in a van, in a van,
staying at motels where you walk into your room from.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Outside where they quite motails and were they hotels but
they don't have an hr M on it, do you know?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (12:28):
Yeah, both, yeah, I know the ones you got you
get them from outside. Yeah, you go, you go upstairs
and you yes, you get your.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Key from from your lady in the window there.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
She don't want no trouble.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
You've been there.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
So is this the first time that that you felt
like you were being recognized on that level like this,
could you could have a career in this?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Like you were special in this place?

Speaker 6 (12:56):
It wasn't so, you know, interestingly enough, I always felt
like I was special, like my my gift was special.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
I knew that very very.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
Young, but that didn't necessarily mean it had to be
a career, you know. But this was the first time
where it was like, Okay, there's nothing else I even
want to remotely do.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
This is it?

Speaker 5 (13:17):
And so that was that was like a pivotal moment.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
But to like say, like when I was more settle
into like I feel like what I can bring just
this industry, that was later on. I don't know if
you want me to skip to that moment, but that
was that was a little later on where I felt settled,
like I don't care how long this takes. I already
I know I'm where I'm supposed to be. But that
was a little later that there was. That was a
pivotal performance in a pivotal moment.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So forbidden forgiven.

Speaker 10 (13:41):
Yeah again I like I like forbidden me, I like
forgive forgiven.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
It was.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
We had a little Roman numeral for.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Talk.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Hey, we all got them.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
So what is what is in between that? Because there's
gotta be Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
It's a lot, it's a lot. So the girls group
didn't work out. You know, I think, you know, we
were all super young and had had different interests, and
I think kind of looking back in retrospect, I was
I was such a intense person. I think it was
like a little overwhelming sometimes, Like it was I was like,

(14:34):
let's do this, Like forget if. I remember calling my
mom up my mom and I was like, I don't
even want to finish college because I already found it.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Like this is it.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
I don't I don't need to look any further. She
was like, no, we're not going to do that. So
I did get my degree. I got my degree in
music and this is piano.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I got it.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
I graduated kum laude.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
From from Ocala College. Uh but I you know, I
just said this, this is it. And for me, I
just loved music that I kind of started more off
on the writing side, the writing. And so right after

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I graduated, that's when I, you know, met up with
Jimmy gimme Terry Louise around the same time that we
can I'm trying to figure out how did we connect
through Harvey and Damon? Were you like at the Underdogs
back in the day we met.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I'm not sure. I'm not I'm not all aways, sure,
but I mean it's possible because obviously I was part
of the underdogs with them, so I had to have
been that then, But at that time I wasn't. I wasn't.
I wasn't working with them at that time. I wasn't
working with.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Them at that No, I remember you, you and Ronnie.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I actually left the Underdogs the second time because of
Little Ronnie got it. They kicked him out, so I
was like, yeah, I can't kick my little homieaut because.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
This is my guys.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Two thousand and four.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Sorry to that.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I like, I'm like, if if you're gonna kick him out,
he come with me.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
So literally, like little Ronnie came and lived at my
studio house. That was my studio house that used to
come to and record, and Ronnie was because he was
he wasn't from l a one from California. So I'm like,
listen to you figure it out?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, you with me? You're my guy?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
So, oh my god?

Speaker 5 (16:22):
What was that song that we did?

Speaker 7 (16:26):
What?

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Wait?

Speaker 7 (16:28):
What to go on?

Speaker 5 (16:28):
To take to wake up every day?

Speaker 11 (16:31):
To love and to be happy?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Record like you used to love?

Speaker 5 (16:36):
I hate I'm treading everything so something to feel no
change can't go home this way.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
It's not the way I wanted nothings schooling, wrong, going right?

Speaker 5 (16:49):
What are we doing and wrong?

Speaker 7 (16:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, now you're singing it.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I don't even like that your notes.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
The first funny thing is she sang a song that
we wrote together. But what I remember the most was
when you came and sang for me the first time
you sang in dr E Ready for Love.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I never forgot that because I'm like, this is amazing,
Like this is amazing, And did I just do it
like a pill?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Or play you play?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
You played and.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Sang and I was like this, I ain't never seen
nothing like this.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
I don't ever sing that song.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I need to bring that back.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Shout out to dr my favorite songs of all time.
And I just remember you, you know, because that's how
people that don't know the music business. It's kind of
how it goes when you go to meet somebody and
you know you're showing your gift, you usually just you know.
And I think you might have asked me like, okay,
so what do you what songs?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Which is a whole nother cheat code that you guys
have because you both play and sing to be able
to kind of be little juke box. And I was
just like, this is insane, Like this is literally insane.
I'm going to find the song. You just saying, No,
I had magical time. I know I have it on
the drive or somewhere.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Oh my god, I can literally see your place now,
like I remember the room and everything, like how.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
It was where we would where we would record the vocals.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
And then I met you around this spirit Yes it was.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
It was yeah, I didn't even know that.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah, and then I met you around the same time. Underdogs.
That's that's the thing, the underdogs. They would always just
like just sick me on anybody who would come through,
so like it used to come through sing singer. He
was chewing some gold when I started to sing, and
he said I didn't choose this gun, and then he

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had his assistant and he made him spit the governor's head.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
God, I love some ses.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm sorry, but it was.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Oh my god, I will I will never forget. Those
early BOMs coming to you were no different. And you
came in one time and they were like saying, sing
something for tank, and I did never felt this way.
Bright Night and this was this was no one else
sing then the other the piano intro, and I finished singing,

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and I will never this was like, member, I told
you that. There was this pivotal moment for me from
what you said. And the first thing you said was
you're anointed. And I remember thinking, what a weird thing
to say after I sing what I considered to be
a secular song. And because again, like the way I

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grew up, everything is like there's sacred and then there's secular.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
There's no blurry.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's what that's what it is, sacred and secular.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Never knew that Okay, yeah, yeah we're gonna bring alaw
it's glorious, have a knack.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Glorious.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
But so for me, that was that was like that's
when I kind of had to start that that introspection
of realizing that my gift was not what I what
song I sang.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Period, period, period, But it was when you said that.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
I was like, that's such a weird thing for someone
to say you're anointed after but it was like you
felt the God in me and that's why you said that.
And then I realized, okay, this is this is not
something where you can turn and even further, take it
a step further. I grew up seventh day to where
you know, you don't sing, you know, any do anything

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secular like on Friday night and Saturday. So like in
the beginning, I wasn't doing shows during that time.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Because of that reason, I thought, Okay.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
All of a sudden, nose shows or any not not
just shows, but no anything anything doing sessions.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
You would you would make you would, you would make
it around the other days.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
And so that was kind of the beginning of when
I sayd and Kirk Whalem also was was very instrumental
in that and just helping me to see that your
gift doesn't it doesn't turn off the period doesn't. It's
it's you're a vessel and it's about what you bring
that the light through that vestal.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I struggled with that early early on because because of
the teachings, because of it always being pushed that, you know,
secular music was.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know, the gateway to hell.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, in a sense pretty much.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
And here I am in this R and B place,
you know, with this annoying, with this calling on life.
What am I doing here?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
And so it took a while for me to accept
that this was from him and not from anybody else.
This opportunity for me to share my gift all over
the world and to in essence put my life on
paper and then ultimately on record, and it make room

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for me, you know, it provides me a place to live,
It provides food for my family. I was like, that
can only come from one place. And it took me
a while. Was tormented for a while, you know what
I mean. And people would say to me, you a
church boy, like you like what you're.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Doing out here? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
This club and I didn't. I didn't necessarily fit in,
you know what I mean. But at a certain point
I just stopped trying to.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I just accepted exactly exactly.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
I feel the same way because that you almost don't
fit on either side, because you recognize that there's more
for me. It was like, there's more that I want
to say, Yes, there's more that I want to There's
there's more ways that I want to express myself. So
it can't only be gospel to me. Gospel is how
I live my life, the way I treat people, and

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and that would be my response to every time someone says.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Oh, you know, you make sure you never stop singing
for Jesus. I'm like, well, really more about.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me,
let me, let me me right, so kind of what
I'm gatting, you know, my own little layman terms. Yeah,
because are like musically mixed.

Speaker 11 (23:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
So it's like, you know, you meet somebody who has
one parent that's one and another or whatever, and they
got to figure it out because they don't truely fit
either side. But when you're really talented, eventually they all
gravitate towards you. Is what I found just watching even

(24:11):
with Tank, where it's like I'll see the church and
the gospel singers and the pastors be like, yeah, so
it can Tank come perform at the church? What would
you like for him to perform? I don't know if
he has that selection, but what's wild they'll ask for

(24:39):
the songs. For the songs. I'm like, so, y'all won't win,
we they w I've.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Been to you're doing the church banquets or that's.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Where like it's like it's just it it's so far
away from the traditional thing that has been taught. Like
I feel like, now you know especially for those pastors
that I that I performed for Keith Battles, who is
a good friend of mine, and Pastor Gray, like they
understand the reality of a thing, like when it's time

(25:09):
for them to lay down with their wives. They're not
playing for him and we love, we love not for
that moment, they're not playing her. Frank, you know, they're
gonna they don't need, they don't need, they don't need,

(25:30):
They're gonna.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
They're gonna need.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah, you started, and so it had to be.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's understanding that, yeah makes it.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
It's human human.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
So heavenly bound, that you're earthly good, understand what's.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Happening exactly exactly.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
And there there's and you know, there's been so many
people who have started in the church and and to
your point, yes, it's kind of mixed where we're on
one side and and and there's another side. But then
there's also the people like us, we're on the other side,
who are people who just had the courage to do more.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
So were I still understand that world.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
I still very much like when I played you know,
during the Clark Cole, I very much knew that world
and just that whole ecosystem you know like it's it was.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
It was very real to me.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
But I also know the other side, and sometimes it's
you having the courage to say, I want to do more.
And that's why I love Yolanda Adams, who she just
does whatever she wants. If they ask her to do
a tribute to to you know, Sha Ka Khan or
you know, she's gonna do that, She's gonna do She's
gonna do the Ray Charles.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
She and I both did this my second White House
show together.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Okay, this floss is just I don't have a drink
because this is you know, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Here's the thing today when she sings, when Yolanda Adams
they actually sing together, and I sing with Adams, I
had to I had to take a step back and
and let your Linda say, well, we.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Didn't we didn't do a duet. We were on the
same we were on the same bill. So I actually
did a duet with Anthony Hamilton. We did the right time.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
That was that was a tribute to Ray Charles. Yea more.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
So.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
But yeah, no I say all that, I don't know
what our original point. We've kind of gone around.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Listen, this is here's here's the other thing. This is
our show. We want I see you ass niggas in
the comments. I see they said it's irrelevant.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Irrelevant, it's not your podcast.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
So we have whoever on the show and we will
talk about whatever we want to.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I love that, I love where we were.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah about you being great, This is ultimately, this is
what no, this is why we brought you here because
of your gift and what you do. Obviously we've known
you for years at this point and you know throughout
the years, but we really we want to put the
spotlight on people we believe that are great. I appreciate
flat out and really and really talk about it and

(28:20):
talk about that journey of how they got there. I
think you were probably at we were getting off off
the Girls group and you were in LA talking about
how we met and the songs. So were you signed
to Jimmy Geanme, Terry Lewis.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
I was a part of their writing camp.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
Okay, so yeah, it was almost like I wasn't technically signed,
but we were just I was on all of their
projects that they were doing. So that's actually how I
got like a lot of my little you know, movie credits.
So I would be on a keeling the b and
I would be, you know, doing backgrounds.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Me and my daughter's favorite movie shout out.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, I love what she's been saying in the in
the in the news. Yes she's incomparable. So yeah, let's
just start there. But but yeah, it's so I got
Will and Gray to a lot of.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
A lot of different stuff that during that time, whatever
they were on, I was on, you know, whatever they
were writing for whatever. And so that's actually when I
don't know if you guys remember the movie Jumping the Broom,
So that was did you you want?

Speaker 5 (29:29):
You wanted to be what character?

Speaker 4 (29:32):
And I was gonna ask, did you give a ship?
What they call it?

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah? I can't my line.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I was supposed to be the Ray's character.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Oh you would have been funny in that one.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
But he was funny too. He was funny too.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
But you know, so much I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
So I'm doing the audition, and you know, I'm just
being natural, you know what I'm saying, Grapes on the table,
and I saw, like, you know, see the grapes on me.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Use the grapes probably grab a grape to a grape. No, no,
I start dying.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Choke the middle only you only what man? What's the day?
Was looking at me? No used to be that was.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Married to baby Face Tracy. She was part of looking
at me like you grabbed my grape.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Not only were they not community grapes, they were someone
else's grapes too much. Yeah, you haven't been in her.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I haven't been in any of her. Sorry, I'm putty.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Now talk to man.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Oh my god, you took her grapes and she said
no thing the grape said no thanks to me.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Yeah, so you actually that was like my I was
getting more into the writing. Like I said, I just
loved I just wanted to be just a part of
the process. I didn't have to be, you know, on stage.
It was just writing and producing. And so I learned
so much during those years with Jimmy, Jam and Terry
and so by kind of like my big I would say,

(31:29):
like my big break was when I was on Take
six's album who I considered it be like my brothers
And I was doing this song called someone to Watch
Over Me, And of course y'all know Stevie Wonder Love
some some Take six.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
I don't know Steve one day that you said, you know, man,
I got it.

Speaker 8 (31:50):
I got to.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Accomplish something and I don't know the guys.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
So Steve and he was like, who is this girl?
I want to meet her, you know.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
And so.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I'll tell you guys that story that straight.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
It's a champagne on here, because if not, she's probably
poured it all over me. All Steve, Stevie wonder what

(32:31):
it was.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Okay, but I'm gonna just tell you how off I was.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
So, and I'll give a little background, as I told
you guys, with being with Jimmy and Terry, everybody would
come through there, you know. So I remember when Maurice
White was and I treasured these moments and I didn't
realize how special it was.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I knew it was special.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
When Fire and I remember I played and sing something
and he's like, girl, you got some chords, And I'm
just like.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Just those kind of moments would happened there all the time.
So I'm prefacing the story by saying that. So I
go and I meet Stevie and Stephanie, who still works
with him. I love her to death. I just talked
to her not too long ago. She wanted to surprise
him with me just showing up to the studio. So

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I go to the studio and you know, he was
in the middle of doing something, so he was like
recording something else. So I'm just kind of like on
the couch or somewhere waiting. So hour goes by, another
hour goes by, and I'm just like, yeah, I gotta go,
you know, I gotta go, Like I have, I got shipped.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Somebody tells Stevie I was here, Please don't air this part.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Okay, but that's not even that's not even the bad part.
So so I talked.

Speaker 12 (34:13):
So I talked to them, and I was like, oh god.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I was oh my god, man, he protects babies and fools.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
So anyway, so I'm like I meet him. I'm just
kind of like, okay, cool I met. I met Stevie
Wonder and so I was just like.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
They were like oh, and he was like, well, you know,
can you come by tomorrow? And I was like, no,
I can't.

Speaker 11 (34:52):
Yeah, i'.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
I'm going to cry.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Oh god, Stevie, don't work on Friday.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
Friday.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I hain't coming.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
No, it wasn't even a Friday that would make the worst.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
It wasn't even Friday. So I bounced.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Nah.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
So I called my sister and I'm like, oh, you know,
I just met Stevie. You know, he was busy all
the time. I just got to say, Hi, that's it.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
And she's said, well, what happened?

Speaker 5 (35:46):
She said, you know, what are they say?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I said, you know, I got some things to do.
I was like, I could make it back.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
She was like, Julia that she doesn't curse, but she
would have said, that's fucking Stevie Wonder, that's Stevie Wonder.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
And I was like, what if I so to borrow?

Speaker 5 (36:13):
The next day I called, so I just showed up.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I literally just showed up.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
I just went to the studio and I will never forget.
I can literally see where everybody was sitting and he was.
He wasn't there yet, and so when he came in,
somebody must have says something.

Speaker 11 (36:34):
And I laughed and he was like, you came back.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
He recognized meeting just meeting me yesterday, and he's like,
you came back. And the rest is history.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
I mean, after that, we just connected so so deeply,
and I went I remember going to the piano and
we were just singing.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
And later on that here so that was he was
about to go on tour.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
So that Christmas, I sang for his House full of Toys,
the know, the show he does every year, and I did.
Who could imagine a King? And I just remember thinking like,
oh my god, am I really butt cheeked a butt
cheek with Stevie Wonder. I'm sitting at the piano, He's
like sitting at the roads. And that was just kind
of the startup to be probably one of the most
beautiful friendships that I have in this world.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
And I tell people, like everything that you think.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
About him, you know, when you when you hit like
back to what you were saying, how certain songs conjure
up certain memories. You know when you hear you know,
you are the Sonshine of my life or my Sharim
or how it feels like light.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
He really is like that. He is that light. And
you know, I've never heard him we joke.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
I mean, we we talked ship with each other all
the time, just all up front on stage, like just
we have the most hilarious.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Uh nah, because it's it's just like this. There's these
rumors that Stevie want their drive.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
No, well, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
I haven't experienced that with Okay, I have every time
we've been.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
You ain't that close then, because you ain't.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
We've been driven be driven now.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
We always have a drive.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
We when we had we had Ray Parker Jr. On Yeah,
and he told the story about how, like you know,
they would let Stevie drive in.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
The open, like on the road that kind of opened,
but let him.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Drive behind that wall. I fumbled my Stevie, Uh, my
Stevie moment?

Speaker 5 (38:45):
What was yours?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I was so I was who starstruck? Yeah, And I
had sang Stevie songs for all sorts of weddings. Course,
of course, Stevie Wonder walks into my show I was
performing at Universal City Walk.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Was that like a peepy kings up there? What was
that up there?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
It was?

Speaker 7 (39:02):
It was Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Stevie Wonder shows up and comes on stage with me,
and we sit down on my piano and he starts
playing and singing my song, and I'm supposed to go
back and sing his song with his lyrics and play it,
and I blank, I blank.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
I don't know the words to Ribbon in the Sky
that you've been sung.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Times.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
He brought me a gift like a recorder and a microphone,
and you do a lot of fumbling fumbles.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
The ex football player.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
You know you played football, bro I gott and I
never thoughted playing football.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know, it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
I played football too, half back on offense, safety on
defense where I played in high.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
School and college, I mean not like professional, you know,
I played the inner Murals.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah, so you're an athlete's putting pads on you out
there just just tackling people, know bad?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Ok, yeah, I respect.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
You just went to another place.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Yeah kidding? Half back and back and safe and safety
that means she likes to hit people, tackle them.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Yeah, quick and quick lasts you know.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Okay, back to Stevie.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
So what does it ever come to you?

Speaker 8 (40:32):
Do you ever?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Do you ever sing the lyric? Or does he prompt you?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Like what what happens?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Get off? Because yours is way better. You go from
you have this amazing moment takes six Steve, he comes
in friendship and and and.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Then I don't hear from then.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
I don't hear from him for years, from Stevie, from
Steve for years, and and that's I always tell people, like,
you don't reach.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
Stevie, Stevie reaches you. And it wasn't until I did,
uh when Whitney passed, God rest her soul and I did.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
I literally was just at this one of my dearest friends,
Tony Sheppard, I was at his house and I was
just at the keyboard and I just went through, like
just some of my favorite songs of hers, and it
kind of went like semi viral, like a lot of
people like that or her dancers.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
This is after she passed.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
Her dancers, singers, best friends, family, they all reached out
to me, and even her daughter reached out Bobby Christina
May she also rest in peace, and she was like,
when I hear you sing, I feel my mom's spirit
with me. And if my mom was here, she would
be so proud of you. So somebody sent Stevie that
and they were like.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
There's this girl. She's like singing. Her name is she?
He's like Shealeia.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
They're like, yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
So he calls me and then after that we just
stay connected, but you know, going through different lives. He
I think he was going through a divorce at that time,
you know, just different life, which I just didn't hear
from him for a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I went through a divorce, you know what I mean,
so I had.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
To also learn to be very specific. I remember Stevie
asked me, he said, what do you want me.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
To do for you?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
And because I was so afraid of her coming off, Yeah,
how do you answer that?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Thank you for saying that, because I didn't.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
I didn't know how to answer that, and b I
didn't want to come across like so, Okay, I need
you to do this, this, this, this, and that.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
I was just like, I just want you to just,
you know, keep loving me the.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Way you do.

Speaker 6 (42:38):
And what I'm what I've learned now since then, guys,
need you to be a little bit more direct and specific.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
That was that was? That was?

Speaker 5 (42:47):
That was weird. That was a weird answer was answer.
But I didn't know what else to say.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I just because I didn't want to come across like.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Is an NDA coming along? What you just said to me?

Speaker 5 (42:58):
Because he asked, he asked it, very very direct, what
do you want me to do for you?

Speaker 6 (43:07):
And you know, I think when I look back at
some pivotal moments in my career, I'm very happy with
where I am right now. But I know a lot
of people would have asked me many times like I
just don't understand why you're not a household.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Name or this or that.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
I don't know if it's because I answered Stevie that
way hysterical, but you know, I think sometimes in the
past it might have been a mindset that it was
coming across, like maybe perhaps I wasn't hungry enough, but
I was.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
But I just was doing it my way. And I
still feel confident in the way that I've done things.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
But I do look at right and left terms and
wonder if if I was a little bit more direct,
if that.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Would have made a difference. Who knows. I mean, the
question I asked myself most is are you enjoying what you're.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Doing right now?

Speaker 5 (43:59):
And very much yourself?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Okay, so before we get to yeah, yeah, I'll be
seeing you on stage. Foster.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Yeah, David, who started off as just a session player, that's.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Just David Foster had a cable car at his house,
just a cable card. Yeah, so you know that is
absolutely so. Obviously in San Francisco, we have cable cars
that will take you from down the hill all the
way up the hill, and it's kind of known.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
For that in Francisco.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Yeah, I went at his house. He just yeah, it'll
take you. It would take you from the grounds to
the house.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
I was, I was, I wasn't there during that era,
that era.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
I need to know how I'm still I'm sure he
can still know what it's like.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
It's like he's kind of like my north Star. He
and Ricky Minor are kind of liken. Ricky Minor are
like kind of like my north So, so I meet
Stevie through takes It. I meet Ricky Minor through Stevie
Wonder because he was m ding the show. He would
always m d all Stevie's House full of toy shows.
Then I meet Quincy Jones through Ricky Minor because he's

(45:12):
doing some event.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
And then me and q just hit off.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
I know, I'm like going all over the place, but
it's just but that's like kind of like the branching out,
like that's how.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
And so then I met David Foster because David and Stevie.

Speaker 6 (45:24):
Were doing a record together that probably won't see the
life day, but it was such a great record. It
was like with the London Filmonic Orchestra, like his his
songs with the orchestra, and and so I sang as
I was, I was Stevie brought me into to do

(45:44):
that and.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
So and it's cuse he changed it to six eighth.

Speaker 8 (45:52):
Like they just.

Speaker 7 (45:56):
It was.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
It was God, it was amazing. I mean just how
she just you know, she starts speaking the language.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Progress.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
We have a lot of discussions in this little R
and B thing about you know, the gifts, you know,
who can who can't? Can they really this that and
the other, and then someone like yourself comes on here
without saying it. It just fully stamps like okay, I'm.

Speaker 6 (46:26):
Different because me, if I got to say it, then
I already lost. You know, you got to you got
to know it for yourself, you know.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
But M like, it's it's just incredible. So anyway that
they were working on that question. So that's how I met.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
David, and I will never forget. It was like one
two in the morning and David was on his way.
You know how David is when he's about to leave somewhere.
It's like this, you know, and Steve was like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
I wanted to sing something for you.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
He's like, okay, well just a just a verse and
a chorus, this is David, just a verson of choruse
I'm about to go.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
So I go to the piano and play some song
and he was like, okay, very nice.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
I remember I called my dad, was like, Dad, I
just met David, but I don't think I made an impact.
And He's like, nah, you made an impact. I was
like no, Dad, He was just kind of like shrug
me off, like okay, nice, that was cute.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
That was nice.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
That's what you said about maybe seven six seven months later,
that's when he called me. And that was the first
event I did with him, and we had been We've
been touring together for years now. You know, he was
on my PBS special, I was on his jonessentially what

(47:53):
you know what.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
This is how I know she's been hanging around all
these high levels because this is what they do.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
It's just it's just it doesn't it's.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
You know, it's Yeah. I will never forget meeting with
David Foster and realizing that he was using a Grammy
as a paperweight.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Well he's got sixteen of themself.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
He was using it as a paper so the paper
on fly away paper.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah, I said, I I'm.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Serious, gonna put this somewhere with some lights on it.

Speaker 6 (48:31):
He's got he's got, he got them all sixteen all
of them all stacked up.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
But this day, you know, randomly, I don't know, but yes,
it's literally it's a paperweight, Pa Grammy.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Yeah, that's David for you.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
I love him, and you know, just recently, he, you know,
we we had this conversation and he's like, I just
see you know, you're star rising. And because now it
started getting a little you know how it was promoted
to start getting a little awkward because I was literally
performing at the same venues that I was doing with him,
David Foster and friends. So it was just like it

(49:05):
started getting weird, you know, and so it just meant
that it was just I needed to graduate. It was
time to graduate, and so we just.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
All love and he, you know, he and Cat are
doing their Dave and Cat.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Show and.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
I saw that. I saw the promo for that when
I was in Vegas.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like, yeah, I have to
I'm now headlining my own show. So it's it's it's
just not working, you know, It's not in a negative way.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It's yeah, right, okay, Clark sisters, Yeah, let's get into it. Yeah,
I want I want first phone call or.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Clark sisters, give me to give me.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
The whole thing sisters. Well, first of all, I didn't
see myself as an actress, you know, at all.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
So you hadn't done any acting before.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Okay, I will say this.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
I was. I was.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
I had a small role in this actually very big
movie was called All the Way, and it starred Anthony
Mackie and he was he was Martin Luther King and
Lyndon B. Johnson was Brian Cranston. Actually eight Emmy nominations
and all that. But I just had like a little
small role where I was like singing live. I was

(50:25):
singing live though, So I was singing So I kind
of looked back at that moment like that was kind
of like foreshadow and kind of preparing me for it
because like.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
You know how it is, you absolutely know, I.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
See, you know how it is with all these different
takes and stuff.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
So you know, over over all these different angles. So
I was singing live, so I had to sing live
every single time, you know.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
So that was that was cool. So that was like
a small little role.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
But again I didn't see myself as like, you know,
being really part of an ensemble cast. And so Christine Swanson,
who was the director, she and I were working on
a completely different project, just musically.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
And I remember when she came and she told me,
she's like, I just got signed on to direct the Clerk.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Sisters First Ladies of Gospel, and at that time, well
it was called You Brought the Sunshine then it wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Was, that's what it was called.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
And she was like, you know, I can't make you
any promises, but I think you should just put your
name in the hat for it, like, you know, try
to you know, put a self tape and submit it.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
So I was like, really you think? So, I feel
like that's that's like a that's a big role, that's
a you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
You start thinking of all the other people that could play.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
It instead, who looked more like her, you know, just
all of that, and she said, just just do it,
just do it. So I did it, and they it
wasn't a no, but it wasn't a yes either, you know.
So I keep working, I keep working, I keep working,
and I work with Josie Josie Harris. She's a great,

(52:00):
great acting coach. And I remember I was actually on
tour with Dave Cause at the time, and by on
a side note twenty seven shows and thirty days.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Yeah, twenty seven shows.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
And thirty days like a cruise, yeah, but not a cruse.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
It was.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
It was insane. And so I remember one of the
days I was just so tup. We were on our
way to San Antonio and that was going to be
like one of the days off, and Christine's like, I
think you should come to Detroit and just meet Karen,
meet Kiara, you know.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
Just fill it out, you know, And I was just like, damn,
like I'm so. I was just like when you just
have nothing, like just just fumes. So I make my
little ticket, used, little my little miles, pay for my
way to get there, get my little hotel, and I
meet with them. I go to their church and I

(53:07):
meet Kier and we go to the piano and I
don't even know how anything literally came out.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
But we start. I start playing you brought the Sunshine, No, no,
no miracle. I'm looking for a miracle. And we do
this duet and so Christine sends it to the producers
and they're like that that's nice.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
That's Kier, that's Karen, and that's Derndao.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
So that's what says.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
So I tell people just on a side note, like
you want everybody to invest in you, you want people
to take chances on you, you have to bet on
yourself first before anybody else, will you know? Yeah, yeah,
because I didn't have the role then at all. You know,
it wasn't a no, but they weren't. I was, you know,
I was really green. So that's when really the work began.

(53:55):
And I worked my ass off, like you know, working
with Josie, you know, a couple of times a week
for months, and by the time they old action, it
was I was more ready in that moment that I've
ever been for anything in my life.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Do you feel like the acting helped you as far
as being a performer as well, just your live performance
and just preparation, because obviously acting is a whole other
level of study.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
It's a different muscle. But Tank, I'm sure you can
back me up on it. It comes from the same
place because it's just storytelling and that's what you re heep.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Tapping into his acting.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
First of all, I'm on a TV one BT, I'm
talking talking here.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
I'm not going to even look.

Speaker 7 (54:41):
At this guy.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
That's ay.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
They just called me and give me roll lifetime, you
know what, I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
I know than does those movies that they give you
the funny haircuts.

Speaker 8 (54:54):
In down there.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
At the eyebrow, So I enjoy craft.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Aren't you having a good time here?

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I already knew what time it was with you guys.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
I mean, come on, so so yeah, I mean it
literally is she said when you sing, she said, you
tell a story. And that's why it's like for me,
this is another little site note, Like I don't want
somebody to say, damn girl, you you you really can sing.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
I want them to say I felt something. You made
me sad, you made me hopeful, huge difference, You made
huge difference.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
And there's there's a there's a huge difference between being
impressive and impactful. A lot of people want to be impressive.
You know, I can do this run, I can sing
this note, I can do that, but it's not impactful.
You're not tapped into the story. There's no truth there.
And so that's one thing that I've always felt is

(56:15):
what has made me different is that people will always
feel and hear the truth in whatever genre I'm singing.
And so once I was able to just transfer that
to acting, it was like, all you're doing is just
telling the truth, whatever is truthful to you in that moment.
So she said the first thing, she says, this story
isn't about Derinda.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
This is a story about Chilea. You know, you have
to find, you have to find, you have to find
you in Derinda.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
And so, you know, it was actually very easy to
find myself because we have very similar life experiences, blended family,
you know, being raised in the church, you know, just
all of those dynamics, and so it was very easy
for me to be truthful in that that moment. But
I think, you know, the wind was so many people

(57:04):
that know her well. They were like, I literally felt
like I was looking at Derinda and I know her well,
and they're like, but you literally became Derinda.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And then vocally, that's a whole other thing.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
It's like one thing to have her essence.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
But then her voice is so specific specific, she's she
you know, she there's clarity, but then there's rasp.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
You know, she almost sings like a horn player. And
their style of run is it's jazzy, but then it's
but it's it's very unique. It's very unique. Her choices
are are very very specific.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Here in the R and B Money Podcast. We want
to we want to get into your R and B mind.

Speaker 13 (57:56):
R and B questions all right, top five mm hmm,
R and B artists hate, we need, we need?

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Don't be political? I know thingybody. Yeah, some people just
have a gift that strikes you different than that's true.

Speaker 6 (58:21):
And see and I think that all the people that
I really love you wouldn't necessarily say can you be
more specific?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
I mean, I think R and B is best I know.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
But like R and B now, or like R and
B like in the forever, what connects with you?

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Like it's Stevie R and B.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
You don't see R and B.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
I'm just saying he's He's everything.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
The Godfather.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
But you feel like it starts in R and B.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
It's like it starts.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Okay, absolutely you feel Stevie, but you.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
Feel country artists, you feel you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
But it's a different place. It is a different place.
R and B is a different Do you do you.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
Feel like Stevie sings his gospel songs differently? Let me
ask you this is a whole other question.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Really quick.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
Do you feel like you sing gospel songs differently than
you sing R and B songs like is there is
there a conviction that you have when you sing gospel
that you know?

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Well, I mean every I think every song is different
based on the message. Yeah, right, so I think the texture,
the texture in tone that definitely has to match the moment,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
So I'm definitely not going to sing when we the
same as I sing. Jesus is the answer, right?

Speaker 3 (59:42):
You know what I'm saying. There there is a difference
there in delivery and intent, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
and even where your mind is when you're.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Right right, when you're in that place.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
So yeah, But then like Whitney, who she would she
would put oh like a in a dance in something,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
What I'm saying anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
So you just dropped that off like that, very disrespectful,
very rude. It's really really perfect, really perfect, really rude
but respectful. Whatever she disrespected and punched by a vocal
Money podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
I just wanted to just show the illustration. But I
you know, I say that because.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Question five, ay Stevie, it has.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
To be Stevie, and to me, it also has to
be Aretha.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
Site note, I'm going to be making my Royal Albert
debut in London next month, doing a tribute Totha Franklin
with the full orchestra, Quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Better And we wanted you here because because this is,
this is you are necessary, right and and and and
the young girls growing up. There has to be a bar,

(01:01:13):
There has to be a level, because what we grew
up on, what we all grew up on, there were bars,
and those.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Bars were mainstream, yes they were. And now those bars
for us or for the coming up generation aren't so mainstream.
They have to look for those inspirations.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
And so you're necessary because you're such a gift and
such an inspiration that needs major platform display, majors. You
just you deserve it so that these young ladies coming
up who want to be anything I'm not even gonna
limit it to singing or or who want to be anything,

(01:01:57):
can see that in you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Because you know, Aretha Franklin.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
Orchestra next month, next month, it's been sold out for
months now. I already known don't don't don't play me
on this and be like okay, she she like how
you guys douse the name drop. They told me to

(01:02:27):
say everything, Okay, don't don't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
They're like you don't want to tell them everything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I even told you everything.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Wonder Aretha Franklin.

Speaker 11 (01:02:41):
Okay, this is R and B, R and B of
all time for you, for me, for me, mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
I know I want to say Marvin Gaye because there's
so much deep storytelling.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
I know on the day, look at him. Try to
get apart.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
I'll try to get the part.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I can see that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Okay, Marvin.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
God, this is so hard because like all these names
are like flashing before my eyes.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
Anita Baker, I remember, I remember the first time I
heard her record because I growing up I could only
listen to gospel music. So I remember I was with
my aunt in l.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
A and this came on. I was like, what is this?

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
Like, what is this? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
And how old were you at this point when the
first time you heard like secular music in a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Sense, Well, what's crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Ist?

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
I would we would listen to Stevie though it was
almost like Stevie and Whitney like if they were on TV,
like we would watch that, but it just wasn't like.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
I don't really.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
I had to play ketchup. I had to play ketchup
later on, So yeah, four.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yearefore imagine they would have been giving me a deal.
Imagine that I know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
People that can't sing, and then Whitney, of course, Whitney.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Wow, that's a great.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Is that a good five?

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Great five? And that's not just good, that's a great.
I mean because there's everyone you know this in my opinion,
they don't have any holes in their games. Like everybody
that you name is legit. They can perform live, have
great songs, like the artistry was amazing, like that's especial,
special were quick, though, because I want you to get

(01:04:44):
your five first, I wanted to point out because you
spoke about going over to London selling our shows, you know,
starting off with David Foster and then being able to
do the same venues that he does. I want to
point out that that is off pure gift and hard
work more so than any kind of backing or any

(01:05:08):
kind of I caught some random song that blew up
on TikTok or just caught a wave on a radio,
like Because the other thing that happens in our business
is people think that there's only one way to be
successful or to have a career in music, and you
are the prime example that you can be very successful

(01:05:32):
going the route that you want to go, yes, and
taking the steps that you needed to take for your
career and how you wanted to see your career. Because
on the flip side of that, there are artists who
have had massive songs one, two, maybe a couple few
records that can't fill out a hundred seater two hundred seaters,

(01:05:56):
They can't go to London, they're not going to be
performing in these special places, and that just there needs
to be a light on that as well, because I
think a lot of artists get discouraged that if they
don't have this type of record that takes them somewhere,
they'll never have a career. And that's not the case

(01:06:19):
at all. And you're, to me, you're a prime example
of that because you're not chasing a record, You're out
here having a career, right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
Thank you for saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Yeah, very different and just and it should be applauded
and it should, and like Tank said, there needs to
be platforms that shine the light on that. Yeah, hopefully
we're hopefully we're.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
One of them.

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
I think you are hopefully absolutely not. I think you
absolutely are, and you know, thank you for saying that.
Because yeah, it's like the Franks is not just song
just popped in my head.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
I did it my way, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
And I tell people all the time, like figure out
out what success looks like and feels more more importantly,
feels like to you, because as you said, we can
look at a lot of people's careers that it looks
very successful, and it might even be successful if you're
looking at numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
But but how does it feel?

Speaker 7 (01:07:20):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
I I still feel like that two year old when
I first you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Know, watching mister Rogers, I want to totally age myself.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
But watching mister Rogers, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Thinking, who the fuck is playing the piano?

Speaker 12 (01:07:40):
Mister Rogers?

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Yes, it was, mister.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Actually, mister Rogers.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
I heard somebody fact checked me on that, but I'm
pretty sure. But I still that same kind of childlike
love for.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Just what I do.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
I still feel that way, and I'm grateful for that
that after all these years. Yes, do I experience moments
of frustration and disappointment. Absolutely, you know, even if I
wasn't doing music, I would feel that at some point.
But I love what I do and I've been able
to find out what my why is, and it really

(01:08:22):
is to touch people's hearts through music. And so when
I get somebody DM me and say you know your song,
you are enough. I listen to that every morning before
I go to work. I play it for my kids.
Some people have even said I wanted to end my life,
but I had that on repeat and literally I decided

(01:08:42):
not to.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
That's the way, That's that's my Grammy, that's that's you know,
that's my wife.

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Do I want those things one day, absolutely, but that's
not the core of why.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
And so I think for that reason, I've been able
to stay true to what I do and and not
be waivered by any trend because I really love what
I'm doing right now. I've been able to find like
just the the core of where that joy comes from.
And that's something that honestly that that is the highest

(01:09:25):
level of success to me, is to be able to
do that and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Use your words, I'm sick of you, I'm sick of you,
okay top five R and B songs or R.

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
And B albums, okay off the top. I already know,
like I want you that album Marvin Gaye, I want
You like to me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
There's literally no skip.

Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
It's such a beautiful body of work in that same
in that same vein. I would have to say Maxwell
the first one Urban Hank Suite. Hear it to me,
there's something so just connected about it. And then of

(01:10:22):
course let's go back to Stevie and I. It's either
between Talking Book.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Let's see there's okay.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
There's this one album right before Talking Book. He wasn't
It was like you could you started hearing him really
become Stevie. It wasn't that Motown sound. And it's an
album called Where I'm Coming From. And that's to me,

(01:10:53):
when he really started like going deep. And that's when
Talking Book was right after that. So I always but
like that was like the pre Talking Book.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Yeah, so I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
Gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go out on a limit.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
Put that one because I feel like it was an
important album for his development. So where I'm coming From,
I don't know if it's top. I'm just trying to
be exotic with the choices. Okay, let's get some girls
in there. Let's see what the album like that like,
no skips.

Speaker 5 (01:11:26):
I don't know why this one just came to me.
Jill Scott like that first album was just like it
was just it was so cohesive, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:11:35):
Yeah, and I remember like where I was, Like I
always like look at records, like, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
Do you remember where you were like and during that time,
Like I can see it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
I can so that I would say, Jill, which I'm
sure these are like so not what people would expect
me to choose.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
And then let's get some ce in there. But that
was actually the jazz. So no, it's okay, let's see
m hmm. I'm talking about like his earlier, earlier stuff
like Quintessential that's jazz. Let's see the juke joint.

Speaker 6 (01:12:11):
Yeah, but I don't know if if that's like my faith,
but but I do love that record that has September
on that that's Moody's Moved for Love Brian and yeah, God,
because it really creates I don't want to like miss somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Okay, who are my top five?

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
I said, Whitney said Baker, Yeah, Anita Baker, Marvin Gaye,
Stevie and Franklin. M hm, Okay, I'm not gonna I'm
just gonna say this one because I just feel like

(01:12:58):
I should say. And I do remember where I was
Carl Thomas.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Wow, I love Summarine. I mean that was a very
deep I wish I wish all of those.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I mean, Lily your buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
I mean, I feel like that's a very I wanted
to do it for that reason.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
That is my God, that is my guy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
I feel like I should have. I feel like I
wanted to like shout that out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Yeah, okay, here we're going R and B voultron. You're
taking a vocal mm hmm. Are we breaking down Jay a.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Vocal vocal performance style? Yeah? If you're if you're putting
together the perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
R and B artist, who do you take the vocal from?
Who do you take the style from? Who do you
take the performance from? And put it all together?

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
And the performance and dance moves can be different, right
because Rick James a great performer. With Michael Jackson dance different,
you know what I mean. Like, so it's like that's
a difference in performance too. You know, are how Mary J.
Blige she get up there? Yeah, Crankie Beverly ain't doing

(01:14:24):
no dance moves, but he performing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
So yeah, these are.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Okay, So the vocals I would take from.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
And this is all R and B.

Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say Stevie, because only
you guys are like, we don't need your explanations. But
I'm saying it's the impact because when I would tour
with him, I actually didn't mention this, but I toured
with him for a couple of years to we did.

(01:15:01):
When he did the songs in the Key of Life tour,
he lost one of his singers. They had, you know,
some health issues. So I stepped in and he was like,
I know, this is not what you do. I was
actually working on an album. He was like, but can
you just come with me, just help me finish this tour.
And so just watching him every night, I mean, the

(01:15:22):
show would start with like Loves and Need and then
he would literally do the whole album in track order,
everything all the way to Yeah, Another Star. So hearing
that every night, all of the nuances vocally that he
would have to do Summer Soft, all those key changes.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
And she's gone, you remember, it keeps going up, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
So I just feel like.

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
The vocal has to start there because it's just so
pure and it's so you know, it's such a unif
versul sound.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
I haven't heard anybody who really can replicate that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Nobody's it's the light.

Speaker 6 (01:16:13):
But it's not even it's not because if you look,
he doesn't really do a lot of runs all the
time like he can.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
It's not the he's done that more in later years.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
It's not run.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
It's it's the technique and how he attacks, how you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Skip a note like just real, real quick. It's subtle.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Everything is real subtle, but it's still very difficult if
you don't know placement and know how to know where
to put those little skip it's a technician.

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
It's not easy what he but he but he does
it effortless effort because he's not thinking.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
He's just he's just being.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Stevie Wonder is a style. He's a style of the vocal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yes, yes, it's his absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Established, which is where you get stokely, where you get
then I come along and follow.

Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
Brian and all them that that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
Yes, you don't have to explain, we get I know,
I don't have to explain, but I just I just
wanted to, like because to me, when you would look
in that audience and you would literally see.

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
Just the world, you know what I mean, Like he's
not he doesn't belong to any race. You know, everybody
feels like he's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
There a time, Yes, yes, barriers.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
Him putting a line literally saying directly, like speaking directly
to the issues at hand. I mean I was at
a show where he was like, yes, yes, all lives matter, Yes,
but right now black folks lives are in danger.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
So that's why we have to say black lives matter.
And all y'all in here are black, so it should.

Speaker 11 (01:18:02):
Matter to you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Nobody said nothing because Stevie said it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
You know, all y'all got a little black in you,
so it should matter to you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
So that that's who he is, and that's to me.
His voice has attracted literally every person for every walk
of life. So that's why I would start with the
core voice.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Being him vocal Stevie, vocal Stevie performance performance meaning like
just how hard they go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Captures?

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Yeah, would you take him?

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Put in your R and B artists, whether it be,
it doesn't matter whether they dance or don't dance, It
doesn't matter you picked the performance style.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
Okay, this is gonna sound really weird, but there is
something so magnetic and sensual and connected about.

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
The way that she articulates, the way she performs exists,
the way she just.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
But where she performed.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
It's like it's it's something.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
It's just so it's mesmerizing. Can you imagine, Like I
know it's some were accommodations.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
Stevie was like or like, but like that's bomb.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Is just with whose style? Whose style style?

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
Like like their swag, like the energy, So maybe I
should have what they wear?

Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
Like Yeah, I would say a leah m only because
it's complimentary to like.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
The thing, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
So yeah, great style. Mean so many girls who followed
that look and absolutely wow, Yeah that's what she's.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Hot, right, Like that artist, that R and B artist
has that the level of.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
Stevie with like the sensuality and connectedness of got the
swag like Leah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
I signed it, I said, I sign it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:29):
Sure, that's so that's so not probably what I would
have thought going into it, but that's just what I
felt right now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Yeah, what about I just want to know really quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
I'm sure you guys have thought about it, like what
would you do?

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
You're not doing it curious podcast. We have a part
of the show. It is we can it to be
a pretty important part of the show. It's cart I
ain't saying on names. Okay, will you give us a

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story funny or fucked up? Are both? And the only
rule is you can't say the names of the people
that are in the story. Now, you can give hints
of who they may be.

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
I mean, because you know, you know everyone, this is
social media.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
But and it's like I said, it's either funny or
fucked up or both, and the only rule is you
can't say their names. Okay, I mean, you're a musician
that can start off this one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Time camps.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
It's cracking.

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
I don't know if it's a story, like it's not
like a long drawn out, big story.

Speaker 11 (01:21:58):
But I was at a.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
Studio and this particular another artist walked in. I'm there,
I'm just chilling and so this artist walks in and
like the whole like energy like shifts right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
So I just immediately like walk out.

Speaker 6 (01:22:20):
It's clear that, you know, my presence is offending them.
So it was told to me later on that they
were like, you know, who's the I had like a
high bun. Who's the girl with the bun in her head?
They're like, oh, no, she's she's like she's an artist.

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She's not like just some studio rat just chilling around
like it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
You'll sing, and so they heard.

Speaker 6 (01:22:55):
So I was actually walking in right as that conversation
was being had, and so they tried to complay it all.
It's like I heard you're a great singer.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
I heard you you can sing?

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
You know, yeah, so you know, sing something from me,
like expecting me to be like probably like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
I've heard.

Speaker 8 (01:23:27):
I heard, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
What was wrong with.

Speaker 7 (01:23:39):
So? So? No, So I.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Got to it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
I gave that bitch everything and the whole it just
it just changed change.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Yeah, and then it was like, oh, love is love.
It was love love, you know, And listen, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
It's competitive.

Speaker 5 (01:24:06):
It's competitive and and energy is energy. If you don't
know me, you like your space a certain way, just.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Like the bun girl girl to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
You know what I'm saying exactly I need to.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Know we are not saying.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
First of all, you are absolutely amazing from head to toe, spirit,
everything about you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
I just you know, we've we've always been in awe
of you, and we will continue to be and prayerfully
our platform will give others an opportunity to be in.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
That same awe.

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
Wow, thank you, that is the goal.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Oh we give you nothing but flowers. We thank you
for you you had a beverage, having a beverage.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
With us, and thank you actually really like it too,
just giving us.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
A moment of your time, telling us your story and
sharing yourself with the world.

Speaker 6 (01:25:28):
You're awesome And I just have to say, just for
what you guys are doing, just for the culture, just
for just the integrity of music, specifically R and B music,
thank you. Thank you for what you're doing, and for
just being such a light in my life. You know,
you guys don't realize just how nurturing you were to

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me in those years, you know, those earlier years and
and even now, just just your words of encouragement mean
something so.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
So deep to me.

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
So thank you for just being who you guys are.

Speaker 6 (01:26:00):
And I want to see this go just as high
as it can go, because you guys got something really special.
And I love your chemistry. You know, I love being here.
And I saw when I was just looking at clips
just so I was like, what am.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
I getting myself in?

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
I was like, Oh, this is gonna be a good time.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
But I've I already loved you guys individually put together,
you guys have something real.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
You are you are you are so thank you for
just giving me this moment just to just share space
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Sure, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
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