June 13, 2025 • 44 mins
SEGMENT 1: IRAN RESPONDS TO ISRAEL'S OPERATION 'RISING LION'
SEGMENT 2: COL. DEREK HARVEY JOINS TO STEVE GRUBER TO DISCUSS IRAN'S STRIKE ON ISRAEL
SEGMENT 3: WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR ISRAEL-IRAN?
SEGMENT 4: ISRAEL LAUNCHES OPERATION ''RISING LION''
SEGMENT 5: MULTIPLE COLONELS JOINS STEVE GRUBER TO DISCUSS THE IRA-ISRAEL CONFLICT
SEGMENT 6: FINAL THOUGHTS ON IRAN'S STRIKE ON ISRAEL
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 5 (00:40):
Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Gura. It is Friday,
the thirteenth of June. We have a lot to get
to today, from the recisions build of the past, the
house just yesterday, to the immigration crisis.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But more pressing it was Israel's.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Attack on Iran and now are retaliatory strike going on
in real time. We're watching it happen live on sources
as Tel Aviv has seen a number of missiles come
in severe damage to a number of buildings in Tel Aviv, Israel.
We don't know the number of casualties at this point,
the iron dome working pretty well, but it's not fool proof,
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it's not perfect, and so therefore a number of ballistic
missiles have come through. But the airstrike areas are Tel Aviv,
Haifa just off from Gaza, and Bier Shiva and some
other areas of Israel being struck now by what appeared
to be obviously Iranian missiles retaliate, retaliating because Israel overnight,
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with the knowledge of the United Station the blessing of
Donald Trump, even though he discussed earlier saying he didn't
support this, actually he gave a green light, so say
many sources, to Israel to go in and take out
with a vengeance the Iranian nuclear capabilities.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Now, the word is.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
That Iran could have been within about six months of
having uranium nuclear weapons that were deliverable in about six
months time. Too close for Benjamin and Yaho in the
Nation of Israel to tolerate or put up with. So
they went in with a fierce strike against nuclear facilities
in Iran.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Iran at this hour.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
As I just mentioned, conducting retaliatory strikes on Israel, we
saw one Fox News reporter chased off his position as
they fled the scene as Iranian rockets were raining down.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Rockets now seen over Jerusalem as well.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
As this war has escalated in the last twelve or
fourteen hours, I guess, and we're keeping a close eye
on it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This is happening in pretty fast time.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
As you can imagine airsirens being heard all over Israel
as the incoming ballistic missiles. Iran trying to retaliate, but
they don't have the ability to punch the way that
Israel had the ability to.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Punch Iran in those nuclear facilities.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
This is obviously a situation we're watching very closely. Joining
me now is Congressman from Tennessee, Tim Burchett. He's also
been watching this. We'll get to the budget information so
forth in the moment. Congressman, thank you for being here.
Obviously we're all watching the situation. Israel went in took
out with authority, I guess, I'll say the nuclear capabilities
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of rom We don't know if it was a knockout punch,
but we do know that it took out at least
three of its top leaders. It was a decapitation punch
into an apartment building.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And Donald Trump was aware of this.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
He gave a headfake to Israel said, hey, we're going
to send in some more negotiators try to figure this
out when really the planet appears Congressman was to take
out the top military leaders and destroy Aroon's nuclear capabilities.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Thank you for being here. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I couldn't agree with you more if you count Donald J.
Trump out on the negotiating. I think you're wrong. I
told somebody, I mean, the guy deals with tagsters in
New York. I think he can probably handle most of
these world leaders. And as usual, Israeli intelligence is beyond reproach.
They know exactly what they're doing. They're very targeted. They
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take care of business, and in Iran is a bad actor.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
They do not need nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And they'll and I'm sure the media and the left
will be saying now that not you all, of course,
but they'll be saying, oh, they were going to use
this for generating energy, when the reality is they're sitting
on some of the largest oil supplies in the world.
This is clearly they were going to use this for
offensive measures. And and there are two targets, so the
two people they hate the most or America and Israel,
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and their missiles don't have the capabilities of reaching US.
I think they could get to Greece or some lace
like that. But they do have the capabilities of hitting Israel,
and they have to. You know, when your enemy swears
he's going to kill you, I think you better take
take full advantage of that. There's an old rock and
roll band out of Jacksonville, Florida named Leonard Skinnard, and
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Ronnie van Zant was the leader of that, and he
had a saying about it. Somebody says, they're coming at you,
you better sco on and punch them in the face
right off the bat and settle the score. Because it's
not it can turn out worse. And that's clearly what Israel.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Did well done.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Ronnie van zan said something else to He said, Tuesday's
gone with the wind, and if Iran doesn't stop messing around,
they're going to be gone with the wind in this
effort as well, because Israel will continue to pound them
into oblivion. It's not the Iranian people, it is the
Iranian regime that is in Tehran. It's that's weakest points
since nineteen seventy nine. Congressman, there's conversation's happening right now,
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right here in Washington, where I am hopeful that maybe
regime change is at hand. Maybe it can happen. This
regime has been weakened. The Iranian people buy and large
do not support this regime.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Is there an opening here?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Is there the possibility that Donald Trump and this administration
could oversee a change for the first time since nineteen
seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I believe there is, and I believe he's the one
that can deliver it. He said, Iran better get to
negotiating where they're not going to have anybody left to negotiate.
I think what you have to worry about, you know,
I study history a lot. My dad fought in the
Second Redward. My mama flew an airplane near in the
Second World War. But you know, they at towards the
end of the war, they had an opportunity to take
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Hitler out several times, and they didn't take that. They
tried earlier and they missed early, but later they didn't
because he was such a horrible leader, and they knew
the number two and number three could be a lot worse.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And that's something I.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Think that that's played in has taken into play here.
I think they know the number two and the number
three people that are still alive, and they know that
they don't want total destruction and they rather be in
charge of something or be on the run for the
rest of their lives. And that's that's clearly the option
they have right now.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
You can run, but you cannot hide. Mossad maybe the
most effective intelligence.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Agency in the world.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
We know that without that, no question, without a doubt.
We'll keep an eye on all of that. Now, let
me shift gears who We're going to keep an eye
on the live footage coming out of.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
We'll keep an eye on the because Iran is now
returning fire, sending in ballistic missiles, and some of them
got through the Iron Dome, not a lot, but enough
to do some serious damage. We'll keep an eye on
that live feed from Tel Aviv. Meanwhile, Sir, on Thursday,
the Houses you know nearly passed the Recisions Package two
fourteen to two twelve, a major victory for President Trump
as he tries to codify the.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
DOGE cuts many of them.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
This Recisions Package claws back nine point four billion dollars
of waste, till spending, fraud, and abuse identified by the
doge eight point three billion previously allocated to USAID and
one point one billion to NPR and PBS. They of course,
are screaming like smashed cats, as if they don't have
to compete in the marketplace like the rest of us.
(07:49):
This network doesn't get free handouts from taxpayer dollars. NPR
and PBS get about ten to fifteen percent of their
money from taxpayer dollars. I've said my entire broadcast career
that doesn't make makes sense. Why are they not forced
to compete? Make Big Bird compete with everybody else? That's
what I say, sir.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Are your thoughts I couldn't agree with you more going.
We used to have toy stores. But go into any
big box store and look in the toy section and
just see how many sesame.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Street dolls and toys and games.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
There are billions and billions of dollars incredible merchandise. And
they decided to farm that out and do whatever. They
made a poor business decision. That should be their cash
cow right now, that should be funding them, but instead
they tried to go another direction. They can't have it
both ways. And you're exactly right, and it's not anti
First Amendment they can say all the garbage and propaganda
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they want, but America doesn't have to pay for it.
And I'll give you an example. I was pulling in
my farm the other day and it's coming to the gate,
and I don't know I wasn't at gunpoint. I'm not
sure why I was listening to MPR, but I wanted
to see what all the fuss was about. And I
thought I was being set up because they asked on
the show, they said, what is your definition of propaganda?
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And the other person on the propaganda said Lee Greenwood, singing,
God Bless the USA. I nearly wrecked my duly pickup truck.
I thought to myself, what in the world. I immediately
called Marjorie Taylor green and I said, cheer lady, this
needs to be on the agenda.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And she heard me, and she did and she wore
it out.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And I'm very proud of her and the work we've
done on the Dough Subcommittee by bringing this stuff to light.
I'm just disappointed that our Republican controlled Congress didn't have
it up the first day after that meeting. We should
have because the information on them was out there. The
arrogance that their directors. Leadership showed was so apparent in
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those meetings, and it should have been.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It should have been taken care of that day.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But we're listening America, and we're finally getting off our
butts and doing something about it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
We're clawing back.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
It's a start. It's low hanging fruit. But my concern
is when you have to beg people like Don Bacon.
Then look, I get it. In a complicated district in Omaha,
it's a blue district. Some of the other Republicans four
and all that voted no other and complicated districts in
New York and elsewhere. I get it, but it does
make it harder for you. Two fourteen two twelve, not
exactly a big victory, but it's a Win's a win.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I guess we'll take.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It, right, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And it's And it's funny how the Democrats have said, oh,
it's just billions, it's just a few billion dollars. But
yet when President Trump in his first term wanted to
build the wall, he wanted four billion dollars and the
Democrats said it with bankruptis. So you know, the shoes
on the underfoot, the lime stream media, as it will
as it is has forgotten clearly what has happened in
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trying to rewrite history, and it is a start. I'll
tell you, a billion dollars in Tennessee is still a
heck of a lot of that gun money.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, you know, it's a lot of money in Michigan
where I'm from too. Here in Washington where I am today,
apparently it's a rounding era.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But we can do better, America. We can.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Let me ask you one more thing you've been watching.
I'm sure the event's unfolded in Los Angeles tomorrow, all
the big parade. Right here in Washington, DC, it's locked
down pretty good. But fifteen hundred of these events going
to happen. Yeah, I'm sure in places like Nashville in
your state as well. What should happen to the people
that set fire to police cars, that throw bricks at
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law enforcement, that attack federal buildings or state buildings or
other municipal buildings.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What should happen to those folks.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
As you had their heads busted? They're breaking the law,
they're using violence. They probably don't even know what they're
using violence for. Most of them are just paid thugs.
And you get a few instigators and then you get
a bunch of sheep following in there, and kids that
have daddy issues or something.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They need to have their tails busted.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
They need to be thrown in jail and punished to
the fullest extent of the law. You know, in Los Angeles,
say that all the poor immigrants, the poor people. What
about the poor shopkeepers that have worked their butts off
their whole badgum lives who've lost everything because they won't
enforce the law. And can you imagine dan law enforcement
in these towns. The morale would be about this high
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they you know, you're not going to see that in
Knox County. I can guarantee it. And they're right out
here on every road where I live. You won't be
seeing that out there. There will be some serious, Yeah,
I think there'll be serious reprisals, But I would warn people,
you know that that are God fearing Americans, don't go
out there, don't go watch it, don't get caught up
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in that, because you will get hurt and you will
be set up.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah, you know, it reminds me of the Rodney King
riots back in nineteen ninety two in Los Angeles, Korea
town was under siege but the Korean shop owners stood
on top of their buildings with aar fifteens and you
know how many of their buildings got burned zero? You know,
So there's a reason to protect your property. And that's
what you're talking about. You know, you mentioned one.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Other thing, and that is your farm.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
And I can't help but also point out the fact
that it looks like the irs is coming in. They're
identifying where the money comes from, but it looks like
a lot of this money by be coming in from
our friends at the Chinese Communist Party, Congressman, and whatd
that say to you?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Is is that an active war? And as I'm on
the China subject, let me ask you one more thing.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I'm sure you saw this in the headlines, the Chinese
bringing in fungus into this country that would potentially cripple
the American food supply.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean, is that an active war?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
At what point are we going to stand up and say, China,
you cannot do these things anymore and expect us to look.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The other way.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's why that's why Trump did the tariffs on China.
So thick and the Congress and their arrogance said, oh,
we should do that because we don't have the guts
to do it either party. All we're going to do
is write them with that gum strong letter or something,
and they know it. And when Tim Burchett writes his novel,
it's going to be called compromise, because that is what
this Congress is, that is what this country is. When
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the communist Chinese can operate literally a commissary inside a
military base by farmland in the United States of America
to control the commodity or about property in and around
a military that tells you we don't have the guts
to stop it, we should stop it. They are our enemy.
They're a sworn enemy. And k Street lobbyists are in
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bed with them, and most of they might not know it,
but most of Congress is as well, because the lobbyist
dollars flow. And that's why Trump isn't waiting on Congress
to do something, and that's why he's gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
And yeah, you're right, they are. It is an act
of war.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Any other country would take it as that we're the
gutless right now that we won't put the strong tariffs
on them. That's why Ronald Reagan, you know, and Harley
Davidson was going out, and he put the big tariff
on the thousand CC bikes and above.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
He didn't wait on Congress. Willie G.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Davidson said, somebody said, well, Washington fixed fix that for you.
He said, no, he didn't. Ronald Reagan fixed that for him.
And that's why Trump's doing it, because he's got the
guts to do it. We got a leader. Look, I
don't want Trump to teach my daughters that GM Sunday
school class, but I share as hell like him had
on Pennsylvania have an eight.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I think we all do. We do here anyway.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Consman, thank you so much. Have a good weekend. Appreciate
you taking the time. It's always a place for brother.
Thank you there.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You have it all right. We'll take a break and
be right back. It's America's Voice live well. As you know.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Early this morning, in the early hours, Israel launched an
offensive attack on Iranian nuclear sites, hitting with vicious precision,
also targeting top military commanders, including two generals.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
They are no longer with us.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
The offensive duded Operation Rising Lions still developing, but initial
reports indicate that many nuclear weapons facilities were hit and
hit hard. Fatalities indicate, like I said, at least two
Iranian generals were taken out.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
This attack by Israel.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Iran has of course garnered strong reactions, especially from Donald Trump,
the President, who took the social media to remind the
people of the sixty days he gave Iran. He also
is Iran leadership to make ada relating to the nuclear
weapons before things got work. Now we're seeing the missiles
come into Tel Aviv and to Jerusalem, most of them
being taken.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Out by the Iron Dome, but not all.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
We've seen tel Aviv had some serious impacts and damage
done by these Iranian ballistic missiles.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Were watching it in real time and keeping an eye
on it. For you here to talk to me about.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
This is former Special Assistant to President Donald Trump, Colonel
Derek Harvey. Colonel, thank you for taking the time. I
know it was short notice, but we appreciate you being here.
Donald Trump gave these folks in Tehran a lot of time,
a lot of leeway to get something done. And then
he gave my head fake said hold on, we're going
to send another envoy, Steve Whitcoff is going to come over.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
He didn't mean it at all.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
He bought Israel time to do what they pulled off.
They had the green light from Washington. We know that
now I was actually supposed to be in Iran. Excuse
me in Paris right now, meeting with the Iranian government
and exile. I guess I'll call them. They called me
five days ago said hey, we're going to post on
our meeting. Now I know why, Caerl, thank you for
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being here. A lot to deal with here. Where do
you want to start?
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Well, first off, I'd start with this campaign has been
a long time in planning, many many years. And keep
in mind that the Israeli intelligence apparatus is the best
in the world in my judgment, not just the beeper bombs,
the patriar bombs and things like that, but their penetration
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of Iran, the human collection, the assets they have on
the ground, their technical collection, and their ability to move
in and out and operate in a hostile environment is
just superb. They combine that they need this type of
intelligence because they have limited assets. We go to war
and we fight with mass and massive amounts of planning
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and aircraft and things that sencon plans for a war
with Iran. The Israelis do it with limited resources. But
their career and They rely on an extraordinary intelligence, deep knowledge,
and an understanding of their enemy, and that gives them
tremendous advantages.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
We don't know the extent of the damage done to
the nuclear facilities, but here's what I'm understanding. According to
people here in Washington today, Iran probably had enough nuclear
material to produce one weapon in the next few weeks,
enough nuclear material to produce maybe as many as a
dozen in the next sixteen.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To twenty weeks.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
They were close to having the material now a delivery
system they didn't have yet. But we were told that
a conversations I had this morning that could have been
as little as six or eight months out. Israel said,
that's too close for comfort. They've got the material, they've
enriched the uranium, they could have a delivery system, they
could have gotten a missile from North Korea or some
of the other people that they play ball with, and
so today was the day.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I mean, it was too close, wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Well, it's I think it was much closer than that
from what you've been told. I think it was much closer.
You know, I've worked this problem for a number of years.
I've got excellent contacts, and I think that they were
just a matter of less than ten to fifteen days
from having a weaponized delivery system. That's my judgment. Okay,
it might not have been sophisticated on an ICBM, but
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it doesn't require sophistication. You know, in many cases, there
are many ways of delivering things, as we've learned recently
here look at what you know, the Ukrainians did with drones,
and look what the Israelis did with drones. You can
deliver nuclear you know, weapons by boat, a freighter or
some other means. So you know, let's not discount the
fact that they were at the threshold and Israel, given
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the doctor and the ideology and the commitment of Tehran
to destroy Israel and to bring armaged into the region,
they can't wait any longer. And thankfully President Trump, you know,
gave them the go ahead.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Well, Kerlatt's news here today, and that's important breaking news.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Please stay with us here, colonel.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
If they were fifteen days away from having a weaponized
delivery system, even if it was crude, Israel, if they
can get it up and over a rock from Iran,
it's a pretty short flight. If they can pull it off,
Colonel Derek Harvey with his expertise here.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
We'll get back to him in just one moment.
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That's Bowling, four o'clock Monday.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I'll be right back, all right, you're looking live. We're
gonna show you some pictures here live Tel Aviv, Israel.
The Iranians are conducting a counter strike after Israel when
after their nuclear facilities overnight, hitting them hard, also killing
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at least two high ranking generals in Basically it was
they took off the head of the military again Israel did.
This is something that's been planning for a long time.
Clearly Donald Trump was involved with this.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Colonel Derek Harvey.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Is still with me and also joining us now forming
the United States Air Force Attenant Colonel and congressional candidate
in Nevada David Flippo, Both gentlemen are here. Now, let
me start with you David, you've been watching this unfold.
We've seen what looks like a very well sophisticated, pre
planned event in and around the nation of Iran. Israel
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came in with incredible force, hit the nuclear facilities, took
out at least two of the top.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Generals, maybe more. We'll learn more as time goes on.
How do you assess this situation so far?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah? Absolutely well. Obviously, as the colonel said earlier, Israel's
been working on this for a while. They've been in
place and you know, attacking for I'm the enemy's homeland,
so all those things were in play. The you know,
I always go back to where did this start? And
I believe this started on October seventh with the Hamas's
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attack on Israel. So I can't tell me thats wasn't
directed by Iran, you know, and I think that was
one of the failures of Iran now is that now
they're proxy players out there. Hamas has blood and the
Hoodies they've all been pretty much decimated and they're on
their own now.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
So here's the thing. Donald Trump gave them a head fake,
and a pretty good one, I might add, said that no,
hold on, we're going to send over our ENVOYE.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Steve Whitcoff, We're going to try to get some last
minute deals put together. He didn't mean it, because this
deal had already been greenlit by the White House.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
We know that now.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
They had basically said, Look, and if Colonel Harvey's right,
and I have no reason to think that he's not,
they're a lot closer than what I've been told here
this morning in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I was told they were within maybe a month.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Of having material ready to deliver one bomb, and a
few weeks away from having several. He says, maybe fifteen days, David,
I mean that's too close for comfort. Israel says we're done.
We're going in right.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well, when you have a country that is openly said
they're going to decimate and destroy Israel in the United States,
there is no negotiation left.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
If they're that close to having nuclear weapon, we can't
allow it to happen. Israel can't allow it happen.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
All right, And I want to bring in Derek Harvey
again here, l look, the concern being aired on social media.
I'll just bring this to the attention to people. It's
obvious concern is what about that open border that we had.
What about sleeper sells in America? What about all of
these events being held around America tomorrow? There's no kings
(24:48):
protests being set for fifteen hundred cities, soft targets everywhere.
What's your level of concern of terrorist activity happening in
the United States right now?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Well, no King's event set that aside that we'll probably
see violence at many of these events that are already
preparing for that. I think, you know, whether it's Hezbalau
or other sleeper cells taking advantage of the situation or
being turned on to act. I think that's a real
concern in the FBI. Uh from my knowledge and experience
(25:21):
is you know, pretty good at tracking and understanding that threat.
There's a lot we don't know about what came across
the border because it was so wide open. But Steve,
I just I think there's a couple of things here
you alluded to it earlier. You know, the potential threat
here of drones or contagions, you know, the Chinese threat
(25:41):
or another entity, you know, taking advantage of our poorest borders,
our system of allowing foreign countries to buy land near
a military basis, in the technological use of drones and
autonomous vehicles for delivering you know, munitions in a terrorist
way or as part of a larger military campaign. We
have to be concerned about that. And it's not just
(26:03):
the high profile events. It could be a you know,
Texas high school football game with ten thousand people, right,
so we have to worry about that. The other question
is this, you know, we are concerned about getting involved
in a long war there. We got to give Israel
the lead way to do what's necessary, and I expect
(26:24):
they're going to continue to hit and pummel Tehran and
nuclear facilities and going after leadership, command and control, and
delivery systems for the next two weeks. They have to
finish the job. Then the third point is what is next.
Is there a decision point Maybe it's already been taken
to start the information warfare, to flood the zone with
(26:47):
messaging to undermine the regime and to promote alternatives in
order to bring it down regime change. That's that's a question.
I don't know where that's gone. But this is you know,
a decision right now that you're either going to do
it or you're not. And you know there are pros
and cons that because We do not want to get
involved in being on the ground there in any way,
(27:09):
and I know this administration is not going to go
in that direction. But that's a question that's out there.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Let me ask you this, gentlemen, and Colonel Flipp I'll
bring you back into this because here's the debate of
American citizens out there, and.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I want to get this quick. Are we closer to
World War three right now?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Or did Israel push us farther away from World War three?
That's the real question here today and it's one that's
on the minds of many Americans today.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
What can you tell me, Well, you know, I can't
predict the future. I think what President Trump is doing
is the right play. What we need is the people
out there being diligent. You've seen it. You've seen it
twice now. The attack on the Russian bomber base was
done inside from the territory. You just saw it in Iran.
(28:00):
We have to be prepared and not just our police forces,
but the general public.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And large watch what's going on.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
We have to be diligent because, like the colonel said,
it could be a high school football game, right, all
this Chinese property being But if you remember the balloons
that came over a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Was that.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I mean, if these things are launched from within the
United States, right, and that's you know, and we've just
seen it recently with Russia and Iran. We have to
be diligent here in the United States, and I believe
our police forces and the crisis action teams in the
military are working on that. Okay, So, but what we
need is the American people understanding what's going on.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
We need to prevent, to be vigilant, got to be educated.
That's exactly right, Lieutenant colonel. Lieutenant colonel, hold your spots
right there. We're going to continue our live coverage of
what's happening as Iran is now retaliating against Israel. About
ninety five percent of those missiles being shot down by
the Iron Home, but some of them making their way
to target in Tel Aviv and elsewhere. We do not
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Right, keeping an eye on the live video coming out
of Israel at this hour. Iran responding to Operation Rising
Lion that happened overnight as Israel targeted the nuclear facilities
of Iran, apparently far too close for comfort, Iran almost
with his hands nuclear weapon. Two leading generals of the
(31:03):
Iran military killed in those strikes as well. Jonathan Suttlesworth
is joining me now, Jonathan, good to have you on
the program. Greatly appreciate you taking the time. I know
you were driving, you pulled over. You're here with us. Look,
Israel went in. This was a planned attack. It's been
many months in the planning. Clearly by the depth of
the operation, the precision of the work. Donald Trump was
(31:24):
in the loop, but he threw a hell of a
head fake over the last twenty four hours and say no, no, no,
We're going to send our envoy over there, Steve Witkoff
is going to come overse here we get a last
second deal that was never going to happen. The deal
had already been sworn. Donald Trump said, I gave him
sixty days. I told him they needed to negotiate or
something bad was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well, it sure did. What do you make of it?
Speaker 7 (31:46):
I'm a pastor, So for me, everything is viewed through
the lens of Bible prophecy, which is I hear a
lot of pastors praying for peace in the Middle East,
But if you read the Bible, that's not going to
be a thing for a while. That the Bible not
only tells you that Israel is going to be under attack,
but it tells you the exact nations from three thousand
years ago that we're going to line up against them.
(32:08):
And so for me, it's a fulfillment of Bible prophecy.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So where does it go from here? Then?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
If we're going to read those tea leaves, you know,
I'm not quite as good at following those tea leaves.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Maybe you can help me here. Where does this take us?
Where does it lead? What happens next?
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Well, any Jewish scholar, a Christian scholar will tell you
because it's both.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
In the Book of Ezekiel, it.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Says when you see Persia, may God and God the
kings of the East, which is China, which to me
is amazing that it told you which nations are going
to line up, China, Russia, Iran will all be Turkey,
North Africa would be against Israel. And then I don't
believe that this is that end battle. I believe it's
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a precursor for it, because another Bible prophecy is that
all nations will hear the Gospel. Any anybody knows Iran
has had a stranglehold on any Christians coming in to preach.
So I see the IRGC was already weak.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Now they're extremely weak.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
My prediction from the Bible, and this is not a
prophecy but a prediction, I would say that the IRGC
is going to not recover from this, and it's going
to open like Saudi Arabia and Qatar and United Arab Emirates,
where you have a moderate group that allows Christianity in,
because that's a fulfillment of Bible prophecy. I feel like
(33:32):
this is a toppling of the Iranian government.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I think that a Bible prophecy or no.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
The regime in Tehran, according to numerous sources and experts,
is that it's weakest points since nineteen seventy nine when
they correst stormed the American embassy and took those.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Hostages fifty two hostages.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
For four hundred and forty four days, that is until
the day Ron Reagan was sworn in. I see some
parallels here. Ronald Reagan got the hostages back. Maybe Donald
Trump will get a Ron back. Wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 7 (34:10):
I see it going that way, and I think that's
why I thought it was pretty telling. For example, if
when the attack was launched last night by Israel, if
you saw Jordan and Syria and Russia all jump in,
then you're gonna have a major problem with the fact
that they were all quiet kind of let you know
that they're gonna allow that regime to topple and another
(34:33):
regime is gonna come in that that is more like
the new Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates, which is
which is good, and it's gonna allow a window of
peace before the incomes in my opinion.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Well, Jonathan, I greatly appreciate your input here today We're
watching it from all angles, watching it play.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Out in real time.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
You know, it's a it's a different place than we
were a few years ago, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Jonathan, thank you.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
We're gona take a brea here on America's Voice Live,
continuing live coverage, though we'll continue after the break here
on Real America's Voice. All right, there's a live look
at Tel Aviv, Israel. The missiles has stopped for now. Obviously,
(35:21):
Israel punched hard at Iran overnight, devastating the nuclear facilities,
taking off the head of their military, taking out at
least two top generals. Joining the conversation now is Colonel
Rob made Us, along with Colonel Derek Harvey and Lieutenant
Colonel David Flippo. Rob, I'm gonna start with you because
you're just joining the conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You've watched this play out.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Clearly, this was a well planned and well executed operation
to target Iran's nuclear capabilities. And you know, Derek Harvey,
Colonel Harvey told me earlier he believes that they were
within maybe a couple of weeks, maybe two or three
weeks from having the ability to deliver some sort of
a nuclear weapon, even in a crude fashion.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Well, it's my opinion from my experience that I had
indepentagon on the Joint staff in nuclear operations and looking
at the intel when the North Korean breakout was occurring,
that they probably have or are really close to having
a warhead that's made able to probably a missile. That's
their favorite mode of delivery over the Iranians. So, you know,
(36:28):
the Israelis were well within their rights and needs really
following in America or at an Israeli first in their
interest policy to go ahead and do this attack.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Look, the Iranians are at war with Israel.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
They're at war with the United States for goodness sake,
but they've been in kinetic warfare against Israel for many,
many years now. On the October seventh, twenty twenty three
attack was just a culmination of an attempt to try
to bring the country down and kill as many Jewish
people as possible, and that continues to stay. So the
Israeli is going in and doing this was very very
(37:05):
well within their rights and exceptionally well planned. I have
to add that, you know, the Israeli Defense Forces established
Air Dominance, Communications Dominance Command and controlled dominance, information, overall dominance, intelligence,
dominance over a country that's over twelve hundred kilometers from.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Where they're at.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
And they're not even flying long range aircraft so to
speak from what we're used to here in the United
States aka my platform, the B one bomber. They're flying
F sixteen's, F fifteen eyes and F thirty five eyes
and they just did a job and continue to do
the job that much larger countries would only have the
(37:49):
capability to do. And it's an incredible operation. I know
we've probably helped them with intel quite a bit and
some other support functions, but the IDF intelligence preparation battlefield
has just been absolutely phenomenal, and they continue to carry
this fight to Iran, and Iran is just a shell
of what it was several years ago, and it's going
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to probably fall. The government will probably fall, in my opinion,
over the next weeks or months.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
You know, and maybe maybe we'll get lucky like we
have in Syria thus far. You have a former terrorist
who has apparently seen the light. We'll see how that
plays out of the next few years. But what would
come next that would be the question. Let me bring
Derek Harvey on on this one, Colonel, what happens next,
because I think we are on the precipice of this
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regime in Tehran falling. It's at its weakest point since
nineteen seventy nine. And for those of us that are
old enough, what a horrible period of time that was
fifty two hostages, four hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And forty four days.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Jimmy Carter inept unable to aggressively take on that regime
at that time. Although I wouldn't say this about Jimmy
Carter at least as a Democrat. He still loved America.
He served in the United States Navy. He was different
than Democrats and ay, but that's on the side. What
happens next, Colonel.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Harvey, Well, the decision about trying to support regime change
is a big one, and what happens when he'd go
down that path is also a very interesting question.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
You know, the foundations of.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
The regime, you know, have been weakened extremely, you know,
and then not just from the economic deprivation and other
challenges and the losses they've had in the region, but
this strikes at the heart of the regime and shows
that it's more of a facade in many ways, but
its internal control and its willingness to use brute force, okay,
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has always been its trump card. And you know, the
fracturing of that and undermining the internal security regimes and
the synergy of you know, the religious police, the religious
leadership and those that hold power and benefit economically, you know,
is that cracked enough? That's gonna be a question. You know,
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Saddam Hussein in nineteen ninety one, when the regime collapsed,
he was able to you know, with his brute force,
you know, hold onto power and then re establish power,
you know, and power, force of arms and things like
that will matter. And you know, could this devolve into
a civil war?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
We don't know.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Will it just collapse and will there be popular uprisings?
Don't see evidence of that yet. You know, there's a
lot of you know, latent resistance there. But it takes
tremendous amount of courage, you know, to go over the
ramparts and into you know, street fighting and risking your
family and your lives and your extended families to try
and topple a regime. So you know, we're at a
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very difficult stage here. If that's the direction, we're going
to try to support.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
All right, we're going to take a break here.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
We're going to come back with Lieutenant Colonel David Flippo,
Colonel Derek Harvey, and Colonel Rob Manus here as we
continue to watch as events unfold both in a.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Iran and Israel.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
As Iran is trying some retaliatory strikes, although we don't
know to what effect they have had a couple of
missiles land. We'll see where that all plays out. We'll
be right back on America's Voice Live.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
All right, you're.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Watching those live pictures out of Tel Aviv, Iran, apparently
delivering missiles back not nearly as effectively as Israeli is
delivered to Iran overnight, devastating the nuclear facilities, taking out
the head of their military.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Two generals to top generals taken out there. I want
to bring back in the panel.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
I've got Colonel Derek Harvey, Lieutenant Colonel David Flippo, and
Colonel Rob Mainis here with us today.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
And Lieutenant Colonel Flippo. Where does it go from here?
Speaker 5 (41:45):
We were talking a little bit about what happens inside
of Iran. Now this regime is weakened, Is there going
to be a popular uprising? Is there an opportunity. Is
the door open. Could we see a change in regime
in Iran? In Tehran for the first time since I
was in middle school.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Absolutely, So regime change is very difficult. The most successful
regime change comes from the people. So if the Iranian
people want regime change, that's where it'll have to come from.
You know, what support we provide there will be dependent
on what happens. But the most successful regime changes come
from the American from the Iranian people. What we need
(42:25):
to decide as a country is are we going to
unite or the Democrats still going to resist everything that
Donald Trump does. You know, at this point in time,
we need to unite and we don't need this resistance.
We don't need this internal fighting. What Democrats need to
understand is it is because of the weak leadership of
President Biden that we're in this situation, and we need
strong leadership right now. Donald Trump is that strong leader.
(42:48):
He's making the tough decisions. These aren't easy decisions to make,
but he's the right leader at the right time to
get this country back on track and get the world
under control and prevent World War three.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
All right, Colonel Harvey, I'll give you the last word
from you, sir. Where do we go from here to
get about thirty seconds?
Speaker 6 (43:07):
Well, I think we are. We've walked back from the brink.
To answer your earlier question, I think we have an
opportunity for a safer and more stable Middle East, and
therefore that will benefit the region and the international community.
The caveat there is Israel must finish the job. It
was US and European allies and other support to allow them,
(43:30):
give them the space to do it. But I think
with President's leadership, his steadfastness, and his commitment to bringing
stability and protecting American interests, were in a better place
today than we were just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
All right, and Rob manus thirty seconds do you close
us out here?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah? I agree with I really.
Speaker 8 (43:50):
Colonel Harvey just said that we'd just add that the
President keeping the United States out of entering another long
term war in the Middle East is the most important
thing that he's going to do in this and he
has done that very well so far while giving space
to the Israelis and along with our allies so that
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they can get this job done. They've got to get
it done. And David said internally, the Iranian people have
to be the ones to do a regime change. If
that's going to go that far, that's exactly right. We
cannot allow ourselves to be drawn into this on the ground,
and we cannot allow ourselves to be drawn into this
to do combat operations. But supporting with defense and those
(44:34):
kind of things is a wonderful thing. The President's going
to walk us through it, and the Iranian people's representatives
have the opportunity to do.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
What there got to leave it right there.
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
But more pressing it was Israel's.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Attack on Iran and now are retaliatory strike going on
in real time. We're watching it happen live on sources
as Tel Aviv has seen a number of missiles come
in severe damage to a number of buildings in Tel Aviv, Israel.
We don't know the number of casualties at this point,
the iron dome working pretty well, but it's not fool proof,
(01:13):
it's not perfect, and so therefore a number of ballistic
missiles have come through. But the airstrike areas are Tel Aviv,
Haifa just off from Gaza, and Bier Shiva and some
other areas of Israel being struck now by what appeared
to be obviously Iranian missiles retaliate, retaliating because Israel overnight,
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with the knowledge of the United Station the blessing of
Donald Trump, even though he discussed earlier saying he didn't
support this, actually he gave a green light, so say
many sources, to Israel to go in and take out
with a vengeance the Iranian nuclear capabilities.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Now, the word is.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
That Iran could have been within about six months of
having uranium nuclear weapons that were deliverable in about six
months time. Too close for Benjamin and Yaho in the
Nation of Israel to tolerate or put up with. So
they went in with a fierce strike against nuclear facilities
in Iran.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Iran at this hour.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
As I just mentioned, conducting retaliatory strikes on Israel, we
saw one Fox News reporter chased off his position as
they fled the scene as Iranian rockets were raining down.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Rockets now seen over Jerusalem as well.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
As this war has escalated in the last twelve or
fourteen hours, I guess, and we're keeping a close eye
on it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This is happening in pretty fast time.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
As you can imagine airsirens being heard all over Israel
as the incoming ballistic missiles. Iran trying to retaliate, but
they don't have the ability to punch the way that
Israel had the ability to.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Punch Iran in those nuclear facilities.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
This is obviously a situation we're watching very closely. Joining
me now is Congressman from Tennessee, Tim Burchett. He's also
been watching this. We'll get to the budget information so
forth in the moment. Congressman, thank you for being here.
Obviously we're all watching the situation. Israel went in took
out with authority, I guess, I'll say the nuclear capabilities
(03:20):
of rom We don't know if it was a knockout punch,
but we do know that it took out at least
three of its top leaders. It was a decapitation punch
into an apartment building.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And Donald Trump was aware of this.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
He gave a headfake to Israel said, hey, we're going
to send in some more negotiators try to figure this
out when really the planet appears Congressman was to take
out the top military leaders and destroy Aroon's nuclear capabilities.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Thank you for being here. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I couldn't agree with you more if you count Donald J.
Trump out on the negotiating. I think you're wrong. I
told somebody, I mean, the guy deals with tagsters in
New York. I think he can probably handle most of
these world leaders. And as usual, Israeli intelligence is beyond reproach.
They know exactly what they're doing. They're very targeted. They
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take care of business, and in Iran is a bad actor.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
They do not need nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And they'll and I'm sure the media and the left
will be saying now that not you all, of course,
but they'll be saying, oh, they were going to use
this for generating energy, when the reality is they're sitting
on some of the largest oil supplies in the world.
This is clearly they were going to use this for
offensive measures. And and there are two targets, so the
two people they hate the most or America and Israel,
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and their missiles don't have the capabilities of reaching US.
I think they could get to Greece or some lace
like that. But they do have the capabilities of hitting Israel,
and they have to. You know, when your enemy swears
he's going to kill you, I think you better take
take full advantage of that. There's an old rock and
roll band out of Jacksonville, Florida named Leonard Skinnard, and
(04:55):
Ronnie van Zant was the leader of that, and he
had a saying about it. Somebody says, they're coming at you,
you better sco on and punch them in the face
right off the bat and settle the score. Because it's
not it can turn out worse. And that's clearly what Israel.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Did well done.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Ronnie van zan said something else to He said, Tuesday's
gone with the wind, and if Iran doesn't stop messing around,
they're going to be gone with the wind in this
effort as well, because Israel will continue to pound them
into oblivion. It's not the Iranian people, it is the
Iranian regime that is in Tehran. It's that's weakest points
since nineteen seventy nine. Congressman, there's conversation's happening right now,
(05:33):
right here in Washington, where I am hopeful that maybe
regime change is at hand. Maybe it can happen. This
regime has been weakened. The Iranian people buy and large
do not support this regime.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Is there an opening here?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Is there the possibility that Donald Trump and this administration
could oversee a change for the first time since nineteen
seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I believe there is, and I believe he's the one
that can deliver it. He said, Iran better get to
negotiating where they're not going to have anybody left to negotiate.
I think what you have to worry about, you know,
I study history a lot. My dad fought in the
Second Redward. My mama flew an airplane near in the
Second World War. But you know, they at towards the
end of the war, they had an opportunity to take
(06:14):
Hitler out several times, and they didn't take that. They
tried earlier and they missed early, but later they didn't
because he was such a horrible leader, and they knew
the number two and number three could be a lot worse.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And that's something I.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Think that that's played in has taken into play here.
I think they know the number two and the number
three people that are still alive, and they know that
they don't want total destruction and they rather be in
charge of something or be on the run for the
rest of their lives. And that's that's clearly the option
they have right now.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
You can run, but you cannot hide. Mossad maybe the
most effective intelligence.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Agency in the world.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
We know that without that, no question, without a doubt.
We'll keep an eye on all of that. Now, let
me shift gears who We're going to keep an eye
on the live footage coming out of.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
We'll keep an eye on the because Iran is now
returning fire, sending in ballistic missiles, and some of them
got through the Iron Dome, not a lot, but enough
to do some serious damage. We'll keep an eye on
that live feed from Tel Aviv. Meanwhile, Sir, on Thursday,
the Houses you know nearly passed the Recisions Package two
fourteen to two twelve, a major victory for President Trump
as he tries to codify the.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
DOGE cuts many of them.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
This Recisions Package claws back nine point four billion dollars
of waste, till spending, fraud, and abuse identified by the
doge eight point three billion previously allocated to USAID and
one point one billion to NPR and PBS. They of course,
are screaming like smashed cats, as if they don't have
to compete in the marketplace like the rest of us.
(07:49):
This network doesn't get free handouts from taxpayer dollars. NPR
and PBS get about ten to fifteen percent of their
money from taxpayer dollars. I've said my entire broadcast career
that doesn't make makes sense. Why are they not forced
to compete? Make Big Bird compete with everybody else? That's
what I say, sir.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Are your thoughts I couldn't agree with you more going.
We used to have toy stores. But go into any
big box store and look in the toy section and
just see how many sesame.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Street dolls and toys and games.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
There are billions and billions of dollars incredible merchandise. And
they decided to farm that out and do whatever. They
made a poor business decision. That should be their cash
cow right now, that should be funding them, but instead
they tried to go another direction. They can't have it
both ways. And you're exactly right, and it's not anti
First Amendment they can say all the garbage and propaganda
(08:41):
they want, but America doesn't have to pay for it.
And I'll give you an example. I was pulling in
my farm the other day and it's coming to the gate,
and I don't know I wasn't at gunpoint. I'm not
sure why I was listening to MPR, but I wanted
to see what all the fuss was about. And I
thought I was being set up because they asked on
the show, they said, what is your definition of propaganda?
(09:01):
And the other person on the propaganda said Lee Greenwood, singing,
God Bless the USA. I nearly wrecked my duly pickup truck.
I thought to myself, what in the world. I immediately
called Marjorie Taylor green and I said, cheer lady, this
needs to be on the agenda.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And she heard me, and she did and she wore
it out.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And I'm very proud of her and the work we've
done on the Dough Subcommittee by bringing this stuff to light.
I'm just disappointed that our Republican controlled Congress didn't have
it up the first day after that meeting. We should
have because the information on them was out there. The
arrogance that their directors. Leadership showed was so apparent in
(09:43):
those meetings, and it should have been.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It should have been taken care of that day.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But we're listening America, and we're finally getting off our
butts and doing something about it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
We're clawing back.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
It's a start. It's low hanging fruit. But my concern
is when you have to beg people like Don Bacon.
Then look, I get it. In a complicated district in Omaha,
it's a blue district. Some of the other Republicans four
and all that voted no other and complicated districts in
New York and elsewhere. I get it, but it does
make it harder for you. Two fourteen two twelve, not
exactly a big victory, but it's a Win's a win.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I guess we'll take.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It, right, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And it's And it's funny how the Democrats have said, oh,
it's just billions, it's just a few billion dollars. But
yet when President Trump in his first term wanted to
build the wall, he wanted four billion dollars and the
Democrats said it with bankruptis. So you know, the shoes
on the underfoot, the lime stream media, as it will
as it is has forgotten clearly what has happened in
(10:40):
trying to rewrite history, and it is a start. I'll
tell you, a billion dollars in Tennessee is still a
heck of a lot of that gun money.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, you know, it's a lot of money in Michigan
where I'm from too. Here in Washington where I am today,
apparently it's a rounding era.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But we can do better, America. We can.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Let me ask you one more thing you've been watching.
I'm sure the event's unfolded in Los Angeles tomorrow, all
the big parade. Right here in Washington, DC, it's locked
down pretty good. But fifteen hundred of these events going
to happen. Yeah, I'm sure in places like Nashville in
your state as well. What should happen to the people
that set fire to police cars, that throw bricks at
(11:15):
law enforcement, that attack federal buildings or state buildings or
other municipal buildings.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What should happen to those folks.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
As you had their heads busted? They're breaking the law,
they're using violence. They probably don't even know what they're
using violence for. Most of them are just paid thugs.
And you get a few instigators and then you get
a bunch of sheep following in there, and kids that
have daddy issues or something.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They need to have their tails busted.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
They need to be thrown in jail and punished to
the fullest extent of the law. You know, in Los Angeles,
say that all the poor immigrants, the poor people. What
about the poor shopkeepers that have worked their butts off
their whole badgum lives who've lost everything because they won't
enforce the law. And can you imagine dan law enforcement
in these towns. The morale would be about this high
(12:02):
they you know, you're not going to see that in
Knox County. I can guarantee it. And they're right out
here on every road where I live. You won't be
seeing that out there. There will be some serious, Yeah,
I think there'll be serious reprisals, But I would warn people,
you know that that are God fearing Americans, don't go
out there, don't go watch it, don't get caught up
(12:23):
in that, because you will get hurt and you will
be set up.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah, you know, it reminds me of the Rodney King
riots back in nineteen ninety two in Los Angeles, Korea
town was under siege but the Korean shop owners stood
on top of their buildings with aar fifteens and you
know how many of their buildings got burned zero? You know,
So there's a reason to protect your property. And that's
what you're talking about. You know, you mentioned one.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Other thing, and that is your farm.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
And I can't help but also point out the fact
that it looks like the irs is coming in. They're
identifying where the money comes from, but it looks like
a lot of this money by be coming in from
our friends at the Chinese Communist Party, Congressman, and whatd
that say to you?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Is is that an active war? And as I'm on
the China subject, let me ask you one more thing.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I'm sure you saw this in the headlines, the Chinese
bringing in fungus into this country that would potentially cripple
the American food supply.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean, is that an active war?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
At what point are we going to stand up and say, China,
you cannot do these things anymore and expect us to look.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The other way.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
That's why that's why Trump did the tariffs on China.
So thick and the Congress and their arrogance said, oh,
we should do that because we don't have the guts
to do it either party. All we're going to do
is write them with that gum strong letter or something,
and they know it. And when Tim Burchett writes his novel,
it's going to be called compromise, because that is what
this Congress is, that is what this country is. When
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the communist Chinese can operate literally a commissary inside a
military base by farmland in the United States of America
to control the commodity or about property in and around
a military that tells you we don't have the guts
to stop it, we should stop it. They are our enemy.
They're a sworn enemy. And k Street lobbyists are in
(14:09):
bed with them, and most of they might not know it,
but most of Congress is as well, because the lobbyist
dollars flow. And that's why Trump isn't waiting on Congress
to do something, and that's why he's gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
And yeah, you're right, they are. It is an act
of war.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Any other country would take it as that we're the
gutless right now that we won't put the strong tariffs
on them. That's why Ronald Reagan, you know, and Harley
Davidson was going out, and he put the big tariff
on the thousand CC bikes and above.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
He didn't wait on Congress. Willie G.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Davidson said, somebody said, well, Washington fixed fix that for you.
He said, no, he didn't. Ronald Reagan fixed that for him.
And that's why Trump's doing it, because he's got the
guts to do it. We got a leader. Look, I
don't want Trump to teach my daughters that GM Sunday
school class, but I share as hell like him had
on Pennsylvania have an eight.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I think we all do. We do here anyway.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Consman, thank you so much. Have a good weekend. Appreciate
you taking the time. It's always a place for brother.
Thank you there.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You have it all right. We'll take a break and
be right back. It's America's Voice live well. As you know.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Early this morning, in the early hours, Israel launched an
offensive attack on Iranian nuclear sites, hitting with vicious precision,
also targeting top military commanders, including two generals.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
They are no longer with us.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
The offensive duded Operation Rising Lions still developing, but initial
reports indicate that many nuclear weapons facilities were hit and
hit hard. Fatalities indicate, like I said, at least two
Iranian generals were taken out.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
This attack by Israel.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Iran has of course garnered strong reactions, especially from Donald Trump,
the President, who took the social media to remind the
people of the sixty days he gave Iran. He also
is Iran leadership to make ada relating to the nuclear
weapons before things got work. Now we're seeing the missiles
come into Tel Aviv and to Jerusalem, most of them
being taken.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Out by the Iron Dome, but not all.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
We've seen tel Aviv had some serious impacts and damage
done by these Iranian ballistic missiles.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Were watching it in real time and keeping an eye
on it. For you here to talk to me about.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
This is former Special Assistant to President Donald Trump, Colonel
Derek Harvey. Colonel, thank you for taking the time. I
know it was short notice, but we appreciate you being here.
Donald Trump gave these folks in Tehran a lot of time,
a lot of leeway to get something done. And then
he gave my head fake said hold on, we're going
to send another envoy, Steve Whitcoff is going to come over.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
He didn't mean it at all.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
He bought Israel time to do what they pulled off.
They had the green light from Washington. We know that
now I was actually supposed to be in Iran. Excuse
me in Paris right now, meeting with the Iranian government
and exile. I guess I'll call them. They called me
five days ago said hey, we're going to post on
our meeting. Now I know why, Caerl, thank you for
(17:03):
being here. A lot to deal with here. Where do
you want to start?
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Well, first off, I'd start with this campaign has been
a long time in planning, many many years. And keep
in mind that the Israeli intelligence apparatus is the best
in the world in my judgment, not just the beeper bombs,
the patriar bombs and things like that, but their penetration
(17:29):
of Iran, the human collection, the assets they have on
the ground, their technical collection, and their ability to move
in and out and operate in a hostile environment is
just superb. They combine that they need this type of
intelligence because they have limited assets. We go to war
and we fight with mass and massive amounts of planning
(17:51):
and aircraft and things that sencon plans for a war
with Iran. The Israelis do it with limited resources. But
their career and They rely on an extraordinary intelligence, deep knowledge,
and an understanding of their enemy, and that gives them
tremendous advantages.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
We don't know the extent of the damage done to
the nuclear facilities, but here's what I'm understanding. According to
people here in Washington today, Iran probably had enough nuclear
material to produce one weapon in the next few weeks,
enough nuclear material to produce maybe as many as a
dozen in the next sixteen.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To twenty weeks.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
They were close to having the material now a delivery
system they didn't have yet. But we were told that
a conversations I had this morning that could have been
as little as six or eight months out. Israel said,
that's too close for comfort. They've got the material, they've
enriched the uranium, they could have a delivery system, they
could have gotten a missile from North Korea or some
of the other people that they play ball with, and
so today was the day.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I mean, it was too close, wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Well, it's I think it was much closer than that
from what you've been told. I think it was much closer.
You know, I've worked this problem for a number of years.
I've got excellent contacts, and I think that they were
just a matter of less than ten to fifteen days
from having a weaponized delivery system. That's my judgment. Okay,
it might not have been sophisticated on an ICBM, but
(19:19):
it doesn't require sophistication. You know, in many cases, there
are many ways of delivering things, as we've learned recently
here look at what you know, the Ukrainians did with drones,
and look what the Israelis did with drones. You can
deliver nuclear you know, weapons by boat, a freighter or
some other means. So you know, let's not discount the
fact that they were at the threshold and Israel, given
(19:43):
the doctor and the ideology and the commitment of Tehran
to destroy Israel and to bring armaged into the region,
they can't wait any longer. And thankfully President Trump, you know,
gave them the go ahead.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Well, Kerlatt's news here today, and that's important breaking news.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Please stay with us here, colonel.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
If they were fifteen days away from having a weaponized
delivery system, even if it was crude, Israel, if they
can get it up and over a rock from Iran,
it's a pretty short flight. If they can pull it off,
Colonel Derek Harvey with his expertise here.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
We'll get back to him in just one moment.
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Speaker 5 (21:42):
I'll be right back, all right, you're looking live. We're
gonna show you some pictures here live Tel Aviv, Israel.
The Iranians are conducting a counter strike after Israel when
after their nuclear facilities overnight, hitting them hard, also killing
(22:03):
at least two high ranking generals in Basically it was
they took off the head of the military again Israel did.
This is something that's been planning for a long time.
Clearly Donald Trump was involved with this.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Colonel Derek Harvey.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Is still with me and also joining us now forming
the United States Air Force Attenant Colonel and congressional candidate
in Nevada David Flippo, Both gentlemen are here. Now, let
me start with you David, you've been watching this unfold.
We've seen what looks like a very well sophisticated, pre
planned event in and around the nation of Iran. Israel
(22:38):
came in with incredible force, hit the nuclear facilities, took
out at least two of the top.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Generals, maybe more. We'll learn more as time goes on.
How do you assess this situation so far?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah? Absolutely well. Obviously, as the colonel said earlier, Israel's
been working on this for a while. They've been in
place and you know, attacking for I'm the enemy's homeland,
so all those things were in play. The you know,
I always go back to where did this start? And
I believe this started on October seventh with the Hamas's
(23:11):
attack on Israel. So I can't tell me thats wasn't
directed by Iran, you know, and I think that was
one of the failures of Iran now is that now
they're proxy players out there. Hamas has blood and the
Hoodies they've all been pretty much decimated and they're on
their own now.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
So here's the thing. Donald Trump gave them a head fake,
and a pretty good one, I might add, said that no,
hold on, we're going to send over our ENVOYE.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Steve Whitcoff, We're going to try to get some last
minute deals put together. He didn't mean it, because this
deal had already been greenlit by the White House.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
We know that now.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
They had basically said, Look, and if Colonel Harvey's right,
and I have no reason to think that he's not,
they're a lot closer than what I've been told here
this morning in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I was told they were within maybe a month.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Of having material ready to deliver one bomb, and a
few weeks away from having several. He says, maybe fifteen days, David,
I mean that's too close for comfort. Israel says we're done.
We're going in right.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well, when you have a country that is openly said
they're going to decimate and destroy Israel in the United States,
there is no negotiation left.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
If they're that close to having nuclear weapon, we can't
allow it to happen. Israel can't allow it happen.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
All right, And I want to bring in Derek Harvey
again here, l look, the concern being aired on social media.
I'll just bring this to the attention to people. It's
obvious concern is what about that open border that we had.
What about sleeper sells in America? What about all of
these events being held around America tomorrow? There's no kings
(24:48):
protests being set for fifteen hundred cities, soft targets everywhere.
What's your level of concern of terrorist activity happening in
the United States right now?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Well, no King's event set that aside that we'll probably
see violence at many of these events that are already
preparing for that. I think, you know, whether it's Hezbalau
or other sleeper cells taking advantage of the situation or
being turned on to act. I think that's a real
concern in the FBI. Uh from my knowledge and experience
(25:21):
is you know, pretty good at tracking and understanding that threat.
There's a lot we don't know about what came across
the border because it was so wide open. But Steve,
I just I think there's a couple of things here
you alluded to it earlier. You know, the potential threat
here of drones or contagions, you know, the Chinese threat
(25:41):
or another entity, you know, taking advantage of our poorest borders,
our system of allowing foreign countries to buy land near
a military basis, in the technological use of drones and
autonomous vehicles for delivering you know, munitions in a terrorist
way or as part of a larger military campaign. We
have to be concerned about that. And it's not just
(26:03):
the high profile events. It could be a you know,
Texas high school football game with ten thousand people, right,
so we have to worry about that. The other question
is this, you know, we are concerned about getting involved
in a long war there. We got to give Israel
the lead way to do what's necessary, and I expect
(26:24):
they're going to continue to hit and pummel Tehran and
nuclear facilities and going after leadership, command and control, and
delivery systems for the next two weeks. They have to
finish the job. Then the third point is what is next.
Is there a decision point Maybe it's already been taken
to start the information warfare, to flood the zone with
(26:47):
messaging to undermine the regime and to promote alternatives in
order to bring it down regime change. That's that's a question.
I don't know where that's gone. But this is you know,
a decision right now that you're either going to do
it or you're not. And you know there are pros
and cons that because We do not want to get
involved in being on the ground there in any way,
(27:09):
and I know this administration is not going to go
in that direction. But that's a question that's out there.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Let me ask you this, gentlemen, and Colonel Flipp I'll
bring you back into this because here's the debate of
American citizens out there, and.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I want to get this quick. Are we closer to
World War three right now?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Or did Israel push us farther away from World War three?
That's the real question here today and it's one that's
on the minds of many Americans today.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
What can you tell me, Well, you know, I can't
predict the future. I think what President Trump is doing
is the right play. What we need is the people
out there being diligent. You've seen it. You've seen it
twice now. The attack on the Russian bomber base was
done inside from the territory. You just saw it in Iran.
(28:00):
We have to be prepared and not just our police forces,
but the general public.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And large watch what's going on.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
We have to be diligent because, like the colonel said,
it could be a high school football game, right, all
this Chinese property being But if you remember the balloons
that came over a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Was that.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I mean, if these things are launched from within the
United States, right, and that's you know, and we've just
seen it recently with Russia and Iran. We have to
be diligent here in the United States, and I believe
our police forces and the crisis action teams in the
military are working on that. Okay, So, but what we
need is the American people understanding what's going on.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
We need to prevent, to be vigilant, got to be educated.
That's exactly right, Lieutenant colonel. Lieutenant colonel, hold your spots
right there. We're going to continue our live coverage of
what's happening as Iran is now retaliating against Israel. About
ninety five percent of those missiles being shot down by
the Iron Home, but some of them making their way
to target in Tel Aviv and elsewhere. We do not
(29:04):
know the extent of casualties, though we've seen video some
tremendous damage to.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Apartment buildings and so forth.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
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Speaker 5 (30:43):
Right, keeping an eye on the live video coming out
of Israel at this hour. Iran responding to Operation Rising
Lion that happened overnight as Israel targeted the nuclear facilities
of Iran, apparently far too close for comfort, Iran almost
with his hands nuclear weapon. Two leading generals of the
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Iran military killed in those strikes as well. Jonathan Suttlesworth
is joining me now, Jonathan, good to have you on
the program. Greatly appreciate you taking the time. I know
you were driving, you pulled over. You're here with us. Look,
Israel went in. This was a planned attack. It's been
many months in the planning. Clearly by the depth of
the operation, the precision of the work. Donald Trump was
(31:24):
in the loop, but he threw a hell of a
head fake over the last twenty four hours and say no, no, no,
We're going to send our envoy over there, Steve Witkoff
is going to come overse here we get a last
second deal that was never going to happen. The deal
had already been sworn. Donald Trump said, I gave him
sixty days. I told him they needed to negotiate or
something bad was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well, it sure did. What do you make of it?
Speaker 7 (31:46):
I'm a pastor, So for me, everything is viewed through
the lens of Bible prophecy, which is I hear a
lot of pastors praying for peace in the Middle East,
But if you read the Bible, that's not going to
be a thing for a while. That the Bible not
only tells you that Israel is going to be under attack,
but it tells you the exact nations from three thousand
years ago that we're going to line up against them.
(32:08):
And so for me, it's a fulfillment of Bible prophecy.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So where does it go from here? Then?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
If we're going to read those tea leaves, you know,
I'm not quite as good at following those tea leaves.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Maybe you can help me here. Where does this take us?
Where does it lead? What happens next?
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Well, any Jewish scholar, a Christian scholar will tell you
because it's both.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
In the Book of Ezekiel, it.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Says when you see Persia, may God and God the
kings of the East, which is China, which to me
is amazing that it told you which nations are going
to line up, China, Russia, Iran will all be Turkey,
North Africa would be against Israel. And then I don't
believe that this is that end battle. I believe it's
(32:53):
a precursor for it, because another Bible prophecy is that
all nations will hear the Gospel. Any anybody knows Iran
has had a stranglehold on any Christians coming in to preach.
So I see the IRGC was already weak.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Now they're extremely weak.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
My prediction from the Bible, and this is not a
prophecy but a prediction, I would say that the IRGC
is going to not recover from this, and it's going
to open like Saudi Arabia and Qatar and United Arab Emirates,
where you have a moderate group that allows Christianity in,
because that's a fulfillment of Bible prophecy. I feel like
(33:32):
this is a toppling of the Iranian government.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I think that a Bible prophecy or no.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
The regime in Tehran, according to numerous sources and experts,
is that it's weakest points since nineteen seventy nine when
they correst stormed the American embassy and took those.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Hostages fifty two hostages.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
For four hundred and forty four days, that is until
the day Ron Reagan was sworn in. I see some
parallels here. Ronald Reagan got the hostages back. Maybe Donald
Trump will get a Ron back. Wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 7 (34:10):
I see it going that way, and I think that's
why I thought it was pretty telling. For example, if
when the attack was launched last night by Israel, if
you saw Jordan and Syria and Russia all jump in,
then you're gonna have a major problem with the fact
that they were all quiet kind of let you know
that they're gonna allow that regime to topple and another
(34:33):
regime is gonna come in that that is more like
the new Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates, which is
which is good, and it's gonna allow a window of
peace before the incomes in my opinion.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Well, Jonathan, I greatly appreciate your input here today We're
watching it from all angles, watching it play.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Out in real time.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
You know, it's a it's a different place than we
were a few years ago, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Jonathan, thank you.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
We're gona take a brea here on America's Voice Live,
continuing live coverage, though we'll continue after the break here
on Real America's Voice. All right, there's a live look
at Tel Aviv, Israel. The missiles has stopped for now. Obviously,
(35:21):
Israel punched hard at Iran overnight, devastating the nuclear facilities,
taking off the head of their military, taking out at
least two top generals. Joining the conversation now is Colonel
Rob made Us, along with Colonel Derek Harvey and Lieutenant
Colonel David Flippo. Rob, I'm gonna start with you because
you're just joining the conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
You've watched this play out.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Clearly, this was a well planned and well executed operation
to target Iran's nuclear capabilities. And you know, Derek Harvey,
Colonel Harvey told me earlier he believes that they were
within maybe a couple of weeks, maybe two or three
weeks from having the ability to deliver some sort of
a nuclear weapon, even in a crude fashion.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Well, it's my opinion from my experience that I had
indepentagon on the Joint staff in nuclear operations and looking
at the intel when the North Korean breakout was occurring,
that they probably have or are really close to having
a warhead that's made able to probably a missile. That's
their favorite mode of delivery over the Iranians. So, you know,
(36:28):
the Israelis were well within their rights and needs really
following in America or at an Israeli first in their
interest policy to go ahead and do this attack.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Look, the Iranians are at war with Israel.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
They're at war with the United States for goodness sake,
but they've been in kinetic warfare against Israel for many,
many years now. On the October seventh, twenty twenty three
attack was just a culmination of an attempt to try
to bring the country down and kill as many Jewish
people as possible, and that continues to stay. So the
Israeli is going in and doing this was very very
(37:05):
well within their rights and exceptionally well planned. I have
to add that, you know, the Israeli Defense Forces established
Air Dominance, Communications Dominance Command and controlled dominance, information, overall dominance, intelligence,
dominance over a country that's over twelve hundred kilometers from.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Where they're at.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
And they're not even flying long range aircraft so to
speak from what we're used to here in the United
States aka my platform, the B one bomber. They're flying
F sixteen's, F fifteen eyes and F thirty five eyes
and they just did a job and continue to do
the job that much larger countries would only have the
(37:49):
capability to do. And it's an incredible operation. I know
we've probably helped them with intel quite a bit and
some other support functions, but the IDF intelligence preparation battlefield
has just been absolutely phenomenal, and they continue to carry
this fight to Iran, and Iran is just a shell
of what it was several years ago, and it's going
(38:11):
to probably fall. The government will probably fall, in my opinion,
over the next weeks or months.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
You know, and maybe maybe we'll get lucky like we
have in Syria thus far. You have a former terrorist
who has apparently seen the light. We'll see how that
plays out of the next few years. But what would
come next that would be the question. Let me bring
Derek Harvey on on this one, Colonel, what happens next,
because I think we are on the precipice of this
(38:40):
regime in Tehran falling. It's at its weakest point since
nineteen seventy nine. And for those of us that are
old enough, what a horrible period of time that was
fifty two hostages, four hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And forty four days.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Jimmy Carter inept unable to aggressively take on that regime
at that time. Although I wouldn't say this about Jimmy
Carter at least as a Democrat. He still loved America.
He served in the United States Navy. He was different
than Democrats and ay, but that's on the side. What
happens next, Colonel.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Harvey, Well, the decision about trying to support regime change
is a big one, and what happens when he'd go
down that path is also a very interesting question.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
You know, the foundations of.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
The regime, you know, have been weakened extremely, you know,
and then not just from the economic deprivation and other
challenges and the losses they've had in the region, but
this strikes at the heart of the regime and shows
that it's more of a facade in many ways, but
its internal control and its willingness to use brute force, okay,
(39:41):
has always been its trump card. And you know, the
fracturing of that and undermining the internal security regimes and
the synergy of you know, the religious police, the religious
leadership and those that hold power and benefit economically, you know,
is that cracked enough? That's gonna be a question. You know,
(40:02):
Saddam Hussein in nineteen ninety one, when the regime collapsed,
he was able to you know, with his brute force,
you know, hold onto power and then re establish power,
you know, and power, force of arms and things like
that will matter. And you know, could this devolve into
a civil war?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
We don't know.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Will it just collapse and will there be popular uprisings?
Don't see evidence of that yet. You know, there's a
lot of you know, latent resistance there. But it takes
tremendous amount of courage, you know, to go over the
ramparts and into you know, street fighting and risking your
family and your lives and your extended families to try
and topple a regime. So you know, we're at a
(40:43):
very difficult stage here. If that's the direction, we're going
to try to support.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
All right, we're going to take a break here.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
We're going to come back with Lieutenant Colonel David Flippo,
Colonel Derek Harvey, and Colonel Rob Manus here as we
continue to watch as events unfold both in a.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Iran and Israel.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
As Iran is trying some retaliatory strikes, although we don't
know to what effect they have had a couple of
missiles land. We'll see where that all plays out. We'll
be right back on America's Voice Live.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
All right, you're.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Watching those live pictures out of Tel Aviv, Iran, apparently
delivering missiles back not nearly as effectively as Israeli is
delivered to Iran overnight, devastating the nuclear facilities, taking out
the head of their military.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Two generals to top generals taken out there. I want
to bring back in the panel.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
I've got Colonel Derek Harvey, Lieutenant Colonel David Flippo, and
Colonel Rob Mainis here with us today.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
And Lieutenant Colonel Flippo. Where does it go from here?
Speaker 5 (41:45):
We were talking a little bit about what happens inside
of Iran. Now this regime is weakened, Is there going
to be a popular uprising? Is there an opportunity. Is
the door open. Could we see a change in regime
in Iran? In Tehran for the first time since I
was in middle school.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Absolutely, So regime change is very difficult. The most successful
regime change comes from the people. So if the Iranian
people want regime change, that's where it'll have to come from.
You know, what support we provide there will be dependent
on what happens. But the most successful regime changes come
from the American from the Iranian people. What we need
(42:25):
to decide as a country is are we going to
unite or the Democrats still going to resist everything that
Donald Trump does. You know, at this point in time,
we need to unite and we don't need this resistance.
We don't need this internal fighting. What Democrats need to
understand is it is because of the weak leadership of
President Biden that we're in this situation, and we need
strong leadership right now. Donald Trump is that strong leader.
(42:48):
He's making the tough decisions. These aren't easy decisions to make,
but he's the right leader at the right time to
get this country back on track and get the world
under control and prevent World War three.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
All right, Colonel Harvey, I'll give you the last word
from you, sir. Where do we go from here to
get about thirty seconds?
Speaker 6 (43:07):
Well, I think we are. We've walked back from the brink.
To answer your earlier question, I think we have an
opportunity for a safer and more stable Middle East, and
therefore that will benefit the region and the international community.
The caveat there is Israel must finish the job. It
was US and European allies and other support to allow them,
(43:30):
give them the space to do it. But I think
with President's leadership, his steadfastness, and his commitment to bringing
stability and protecting American interests, were in a better place
today than we were just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
All right, and Rob manus thirty seconds do you close
us out here?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah? I agree with I really.
Speaker 8 (43:50):
Colonel Harvey just said that we'd just add that the
President keeping the United States out of entering another long
term war in the Middle East is the most important
thing that he's going to do in this and he
has done that very well so far while giving space
to the Israelis and along with our allies so that
(44:11):
they can get this job done. They've got to get
it done. And David said internally, the Iranian people have
to be the ones to do a regime change. If
that's going to go that far, that's exactly right. We
cannot allow ourselves to be drawn into this on the ground,
and we cannot allow ourselves to be drawn into this
to do combat operations. But supporting with defense and those
(44:34):
kind of things is a wonderful thing. The President's going
to walk us through it, and the Iranian people's representatives
have the opportunity to do.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
What there got to leave it right there.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
Bowling is next tier in America's real America's voice. He
will keep you up to speed on everything that's having Colonel, Colonel, colonel,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
All this has been America's voice. Live more to come.
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