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November 14, 2025 44 mins

SEGMENT 1: DOJ FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST NEWSOM FOR REDISTRICTING BASED ON RACE
SEGMENT 2: THE U.S. MILITARY CAN INDEED TARGET DRUG BOATS
SEGMENT 3: ADDRESSING THE DANGERS OF SOCIALISM
SEGMENT 4: CHARLIE KIRK MEMORIAL SABOTAGED IN THE U.K.
SEGMENT 5: WILL THE FLU SEASON BE A CONCERN FOR THIS YEAR?
SEGMENT 6: TENNESSEE VALLEY AUTHORITY'S REALINGMENT UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP

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Speaker 1 (00:41):
Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve grit Is Friday.
Thankfully November the fourteenth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Let's con today's top stories. Thank you for joining us
on RAB as always.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
American forces recently targeted two boats believed to be operated
by foreign terrorist groups involved in funneling narcotics toward the
United States. But the reasoning Democrats say this action is illegal.
I'll bring you that in just a few minutes. Also,
socialism knocking on America's door from Zora Mamdani in New
York to now Katie Wilson and Seattle. I'll discuss the

(01:12):
dangers of socialism with a former Democrat socialist himself today.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
You'll don't want to miss that one.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
And then later taking across the pond Manchester, England, where
a memorial held for Charlie Kirk was sabotaged by violent protesters.
Details and updates coming your way today, but first we
start with jerrymannering efforts in California. Yes, I know you've
heard about this, but some things are changing now. The
Justice Department is taking legal action against California Governor Gavin

(01:39):
Newsom and Secretary of State Shirley Weber over the state's
new congressional redistricting plan. The challenge targets Proposition fifty, a
measure of the pass during election day by voters that
lets the state legislature redraw district maps even though it
violates state law and the Constitution. Officials ledge the new
map gives racial considerations, particularly Latino demographics, undue influence in

(02:02):
determining district lines, and violates the equal protection clause.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Of the US Constitution.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Supporters of the lawsuit argue that every voter's voice should
carry equal weight regardless of race, and one that the
plan undermines fair representation in Congress. The case now heads
to federal court, setting up a major legal battle over
how California chooses it's congressional districts and its members of Congress.
Here to discuss this further as legal expert and host
of the What's Right Show sim Marzowski, as well as

(02:29):
a Justice Department reporter for the Washington Examiner magazine, Kayland's.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
All right, gentlemen, thank you for being here. Kaylin, I'll
start with you.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Proposition fifty pass with like sixty percent of the vote,
but it violates state law. It violates the state constitution.
They already had a non partisan district and committee that
did the job.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
A commission maybe was a better term, but that's how
they did it.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
And this got overturned, but only temporarily, just enough to
gain the system while Donald Trump is in office.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Yeah, Well, the duj's argument is very It's that California
used race as a stand in for partisan advantage, and
the complaint that it filed states that the state engineered
Latino population targets and used race as a proxy to
secure in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection laws.
And what's really interesting is that at the same time,
the Supreme Court is already considering oral arguments in a

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pivotal case around Louisiana, and in that case, Louisiana drew
a second majority black congressional district as a remedy to
prior rulings under Section two. What was very interesting in
oral arguments is that the justices signal that they could
go a step further beyond the map in question and
possibly reconsider how Section two of the VRA functions at all,

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and that could have implications for this fight that's now
tied up in California. If that case goes sideways for
the people that had wanted the second majority black congressional
district in Louisiana, it could spell a good set of
optics for what's happening in California. Albeit, this current app
is set for being used in the twenty twenty six midterms,

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and it doesn't seem like so far that there's going
to be anything changing that at the moment.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, that Supreme Court case could certainly change that. I
would expect a ruling in June of twenty twenty six,
and if that happens, Sam, I want you to consider this.
Of course, California reacted to what Texas was doing with
redrawing its districts, and they'll cancel each other out. Five
new Republicans in Texas, five Democrats in California.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Close enough.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
But if the Supreme Court case goes forward, it'll affect Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi,
a whole host of states and could add as many
as twelve seats for the Republicans right there. There's also
a conversation that Florida could do redistricting along with North Carolina, Indiana.
As I say to my friends, careful what you wish for,
and Democrats, careful what you wish for, because if this
case goes the other way, it could nullify what California

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did and they'd lose those five. This could be a
plus twenty or more deal for the Republicans in twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
That would be a remarkable change, wouldn't it Sure would?

Speaker 6 (05:01):
And you're absolutely right, Steve. I mean, this is what
happens when you play with fire. Uh.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
The Cali case, and I'm glad Caitlin brought this up
louising A v. Cally of course as a racial gerrymanderin case,
and and the administration argued that a few weeks back.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
You know, the the long and the short of it is.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
You know this, it'll depend on what comes from that
ruling and what the what the law becomes as to
what's permissible in terms of gerrymander districts, and what the
test is.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
It could very well affect California because if if if
basically we are able to prove, if the Trump administration
is able to prove that that they came in and
that they created this Latino only district and did so
for racial purposes, not political purposes, but racial purposes, Uh,
then I think the whole map would get thrown out
and and would would would this would obviously push back, uh,

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redistricting effort well beyond the twenty twenty sixth elections.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
So you know something to watch here for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, it's the Article two of the Voting Right to
Act from nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I'm not mistaken, Kaitlin.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
And look, if I'm going to suggest this because it
does impact states, not just Louisiana, but Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee,
a whole host of states that have drawn districts based
solely on race.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Those are black districts.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
The California districts are based on race for Hispanic advantage.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Look, this is not legal in America.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
You can't have people go to college based on racial preferences.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You can't do this. It's unconstitutional.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
But it also violates California's constitution and it's state laws.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's a big problem for California, I believe.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
But what I was gonna say is this, if the
ruling comes down in June, these states that I just
mentioned better be prepared ahead of time with new maps
ready to go day one, because otherwise they won't have
the time.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
What are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah, time is very much a major consideration here. That's
why you know in California there is this expectation, at
least with the one of the challengers that the DJ
intervened in. Believe, it's a state running a person running
for state representative office, and essentially, I mean, the focus
is getting this map overturned, but also being prepared to

(07:23):
go along with a potential map redrawing for twenty twenty
six that would be in the short term the bad outcome.
But like you're saying, this is all in a state
of flux, and if the Supreme Court does act quickly here,
it could give enough time. But everything about this effort
by California really just shows that the Democrats aren't actually

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thinking in terms of the long term. They're just trying
to make short term inroads with what they have still
left to sort of exploit with the VRA. But as
we've seen from this jurisprudence in this court and the
justices thinking on things, I think it's only a matter
of time before this focus on building these these districts

(08:07):
just purely based on race is something that's going to
become a thing of the past.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
This isn't you know, the twentieth century any longer. And
I think that, you know, as we saw from the
twenty twenty four election with Donald Trump, we saw major
demographic shifts happening. You know, the most Latino voters for
a president Republican president in history. And so I think
that this is something that is you know, sort of
underscoring these short sighted views of Democrats in California because

(08:35):
the landscape is shifting more and more people every day
are getting behind the Republican Party platform. And that's something
I think that's also notable.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Except for young women that are fleeing. That's a story
for another day.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Sam. Here's the Here's are the facts in the ground today.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Facts are something that many on the left don't care
to hear, but here it is today. In America, one
hundred and fifty five million Americans have zero Republican representation
in Washington in the House. Zero out of one hundred
and fifty five million people. You take all the Northeastern states,
for example, and then compare that to sixty five million
Americans who have no Democratic representation in Congress. Look, the

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Democrats have out maneuvered and out jerrymannered the Republicans almost
three to one. And yet it's the Democrats screaming foul
when they get played on their own game.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
When when you end up on the same field and
say let's make this even and fair, the Democrats, oh.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
They're jerrymandering one and sixty five million to sixty five million.
I mean, come on, the Democrats are jerry mannered for
years and done it.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well. The Republican's just waking up to it.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Well, I hope they keep waking up to it. And
I hope that some of these red states that are
refusing or at least for an hour, holding off on jerrymandering, go, Look,
this is the other side is playing for keeps and
you can't you know, you can't have your your your
moral scruples here because the other side is been playing
this game for four years. This Supreme Court has cleared

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political jerrymandering as permissible, as constitutionally allowable.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
So that came out in rout show it's good law.
You can do it.

Speaker 7 (10:13):
And you know, politics is why I was like to
remember remind my Republican friends. Politics is about winning. You
got to win, and you know, and and pretending to
you know, to have sensitivities and be respectful of the
opposition when they're not respectful of us.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
I think it's foolish.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, well, Indiana is resisting the idea, but they may
still draw new lines December of next of this year.
Next month, Caitlin, let me ask you this because here's
something that's been discussed at length more recently. Members of
Congress us to represent about fifty thousand people, now it's
eight hundred thousand. Would we make the United States House

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more fair if it wasn't just four hundred and thirty
five members, if it was seven hundred members or eight hundred,
wouldn't that make more sense? Because let's be honest, how
can you represent eight hundred thousand people fairly in the district?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I mean that's the average.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now, should we relook at the way we do districting completely?

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Your thoughts, well, I think you bring up a good
compelling argument, and I would say that that would definitely
I think, bring in maybe more representation of more localized areas.
And I think it's you know, you know, just just
also to put a you know, you know, a finger
on it. You know, another issue that could lead to
more accurate representation of areas is something that you know

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is unpopular. It's it's popular until it's unpopular by a
lot of lawmakers.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And that's the issue of term limits.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
And you know, I think that you know, imposing that
sort of you know system would almost you know, sort
of equate to you know, giving that that effect of
what term limits would do. I suppose you could make
an argument that if more localized areas become their own
sets of districts and we expand the size of Congress

(12:04):
in it itself. Then you wind up in a situation
where maybe the constituents in each state have more of
their issues tended to. But I think that's something that
could be another long ways out if that was ever
to be a thought. But you know, perhaps some time
in the distant future.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
All right, Caitlin, Sam, We're going to keep an eye
on it.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Redistricting is going to be front and center for the
twenty six midterms and of course for twenty eight. The
next presidential election is going to be key, and so
is that Supreme Court case.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I thank you both for being here.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
Thank you, Steve Good to be with you.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Thanks Steve Good to be with you. Gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I'd after the break, the US military stepping up it's
fight against drug traffickers, recently targeting more of these drug
boats linked to foreign terror groups. If I will say,
the goal is simple, defend American shores and disrupt the
flow of deadly narcotics coming into this country.

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Speaker 2 (14:08):
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
This story has been in the headlines and created a
lot of emotion, to say the least, the United States
military stepping up its crackdown on drug running operations, recently
launching another round of precise lethal strikes against drug traffickers
using high speed fast boats. Defense Secretary Pete Hegsath confirmed
on Sunday the American forces targeted two boats believed to

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be operated by foreign terrorist groups deeply involved in funneling narcotics.
Deadly narcotics toward this country. These latest actions are part
of a broader campaign to choke off the drug pipelines
that fuel crime, violence, and addiction here in America. So far,
US forces have reportedly carried out nineteen successful strikes, eliminating
twenty vessels and taking out seventy six suspected drug runners.

(14:51):
Because you'll say, the mission is clear, defend America's borders,
disrupt the cartels and tear networks behind the trafficking, and
ensure these threats never reach out shores. And while the
Trump administration is busy ensuring these narcotics don't make it
in the United States, the Democrats are throwing a fence
saying that these strikes are illegal. Jordan, I have to
discuss this as a former JAG officer and a candidate

(15:12):
for the Republican nomination to be the next Senator from
North Carolina, Don Brown, Don nice to see you here today.
Look you're a former federal prosecutor. If we have identified
and look, the people are saying these are fishing boats.
I've been in a lot of fishing charters. I've owned
a couple of fishing boats. These are not fishing boats.
Do let's just eliminate that myth first, shall we I didn't.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
See any nets, rods and reels. I've done a lot
of fishing mysself. These things are nefarious looking. I'm very
confident of our military has it sufficient intelligence capabilities to
determine what the boats really are.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, you got big plastic drums in these boats. I've
seen them. These plastic drums are not carrying bait. They're
carrying poison to America shores. I think most people are
behind this. When you have more than one hundred thousand
Americans that die from illegal and narcotics brought into this
country off and over the southern border or by boats
like this, I think most Americans are in favorite and
a good friend of mine lost a nineteen year old son,

(16:09):
college kid, good kid last year, died from a federyl overdose.
He went out, he experimented, like a lot of us
did when we were in college. One fatal mistake. One
and you've got to consider that.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
That's a sad story, but we hear it over and over.
Stephen Young, you have to consider the consequences of not acting.
I mean, you pointed out some of the numbers. We
lost more Americans than one year to fentanyl than ten
years into Vietnam War. A few years ago, then Director
FBI Chris Ray was testifying before Congress that the FBI
found enough fentanyl in one tractor trailer in Arizona to

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get this to kill the entire state of Pennsylvania. So
what we're looking at with the sophistication of this deadly
fentanyl is fighting against weapons of mass destruction brought into
the United States. You cannot afford to ignore it. The
Democrats opened the border. Now President Trump shut the border,
and these drug runners are now trying to use boat,
invest in small vessels to run this these terrible weapons

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of mass destruction into our nation.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
And we really don't have a choice. And it's perfectly legal.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
And I've come in the Trump administration and my friend
Pete headset for a stepping up and taking ash in here.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
And well, we have to do something.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Sitting idly by leaving an open border and drug cartels
bringing in piles of money. Look, the way you hurt
the drug cartels is to hurt their profits. To hurt
their money, right, cut your choke off that money, don
and you can have a real impact. Finally, and declaring
them as terrorists organizations was a brilliant move.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I don't think Americans opposed that either, do.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
They absolutely not, And listening to Democrats have no idea
what they're talking about. They seem to be drug friendly,
just like they're anti police. You have to wonder what
they're thinking. You know, this is not unpresent at all.
Many American presidents have offered ordered action on the high seats,
going back to Thomas Jefferson, the Barbary Pirates wars to
protect American interests. Abraham Lincoln sees a royal maleship, the Trent,

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which had Confederate sympathizers on the high seas. President Reaganson
the eighty second Airbone into Grenada to protect the Americans
against that coup.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
President George H. W.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
Bush sent troops into uh into North into Noriega to
capture Manuel Noriega as a result of drug running coming
out of Panama. Bill Clinton order the blockade of Haiti
to protect Americans. It's not unprecedented the United The United
States Constitution, Article two gives the President the inherent right

(18:33):
to protect Americans on the high seas. The President is
operating fully within its constitutional authority and under international lawsuit
the Democrats were just spouting off the mouth again really
not knowing what they're talking about. President Trump and Secretary
head Chef have to take the action of their taking
and that I can again I commend them for it.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Steve Well, Donna Als want to ask you about your
race to be the next Senator for the state of
North Carolina. Michael Wattley was the first guy to announce,
but your Paul numbers put you neck and neck with
Michael Wattley, the former Iron C chair now in the
state of North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Tell us about the state of the race.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
Well, you know, I actually announced before Waltley and then
to run against Senator Tillius who dropped out. Watley dropped
into the race, I would say toward the end of
June after Laura Trump, who was President Trump's first choice,
elected not to run. Now, they the entire Republican machine
and and you know, certain elites within the Republican Party

(19:28):
are trying to ram Walley down the throat of North
Country Republicans. But North County Republicans are not having it.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
And he's out outs meant me probably one hundred and one.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
But right now we just had a pull release through
Politico conducted by The Carolina Journal that the race between
Whalley and I is basically a statistical tie. The grassroots
want to change and the momentum is with us. We're
going to take Walley out and then we're going to
set our sights on Roy Cooper, the most liberal governor
in the state's history, who basically, you know, drove North

(19:57):
County's economy into the ground during COVID and who also
commuted fifteen savage murderers on the day that he left office,
who were facing the death penalty, murderers just like the
thug that killed this poor arena, this Ukrainian girl here
in Charlotte.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
We're gonna take Roy Cooper out.

Speaker 8 (20:12):
He has a target rich record and we're going to
expose that record, and we're going to keep this seat
in the hands of the Republican Party. And I want
to step forward and help us fight this national debt
and finally get this country turned around.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
And Don if somebody wants to find out more, if
they like you, your positions, they're pretty straightforward, pretty blunt.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
How do they find you?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Very blunt?

Speaker 8 (20:34):
We're not playing any games, no status quo Republicanism. Please
go to our website at BROWNFORNC dot com. That is
Brown Brown the number of the letter for I mean
the word for Brown fo r NC dot com and
please drop us a drops the line, send us a contribution.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
We love to commute, to have correspondence with the voters.
We appreciate the great people to stay in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Don good time, good conversation. Thank you for being here.
We wish you the very best in your campaign.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Thank you very much. Steve. Good to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Also, thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
All right, after the break, I'll bring on a former
Democrat Socialist a DSA member, now a member of the
Republican Party, to discuss the dangers of socialism in America.
An important topic concerning socialism on the doorstep of this
country already rooted in New York and Seattle. Now what
details straight ahead?

Speaker 2 (22:11):
All right, Republicans getting a wake up call.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Last week, two major American cities elected Democratic Socialist mayors
Zorroon Mamdani in New York City, of course, you know
that one. But you might have missed this when Katie
Wilson and Seattle, she was finally declared the winner just
a couple of days ago. The clear solution for younger
Americans is affordability. They'll vote for anything with that idea.
They're feeling economic despair, especially the eighty two percent of

(22:34):
New York City women between eighteen and twenty nine who
voted for Mamdanni. Republicans must focus on economic solutions acounter
the traction socialism is gaining in this country before it
metastasizes democratic socialist policies problems, government run groceries, free buses,
free rent, free everything. If Republicans don't respond and find solutions,
they risk of political guillotine with young people equating the

(22:57):
Constitution's pursuit of happiness with a government.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Guarantee a right to happiness.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Here discuss how to change the minds of a generation
of younger people with offering it the alternative capitalistry markets
and its benefits is GOP strategist ab Sure Omar, who
himself was a Democrat Socialist for a number of years.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Ab Sure, welcome back.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
Well, thanks for having me back, Steve, and yes that
is true. In my early college days, I was a
member of the Democratic Socialists of America and moved through
that progression to more moderator CENTRIS stands within the Democratic
Party and when we look at the election that happened
last week with zoron Momdannie winning in New York.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
City, Absure, let me jump in here. I think people
want to know. I want to know what changed your mind?
What had you get an epiphany where you said, wait
a second, what I've been preaching, what I've been.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Pursuing is wrong and you left it. How did that
happen and why?

Speaker 9 (23:56):
Well, that answer is twofold. The first part is when
you start looking at the numbers, the economic models, the
math does not add up. At the end of the day,
we're looking at hopeful projections of economic growth that's going
to translate into the material well being of Americans. When
you look at the socialist model, where I was a

(24:17):
former Bernie bro and a campaign staffer for Senator Sanders
political director in the Midwest for the twenty twenty election,
when you start looking at the actual models, it does
not work anywhere on planet Earth. And when you bring
up the Scandinavian model, they're not socialist societies. They're market
economies with elements of socialism, but not full blown Marxist

(24:40):
Leninist socialist economic models. But when we're looking at this
in particular right. The second part of that story is
how the social dynamics of the DSA changed, where we
started having free speech curtailed, where we're having individuals who
were staunched of the constitution now telling members of the

(25:02):
party you can't use this language, you have to follow
these pronouns, you have to do these things. And the
reality of it is most people that are affiliated with
the Democratic Socialists or who like AOC or Bernie Sanders,
they're on that side for a few social issues, but
most importantly economics in this country, when you have politicians

(25:25):
talking about can you afford rents? Can you afford to
buy groceries? Can you afford to pay for childcare? Those
are bread and basket budget items for families in this country.
And the reality of it is we're technically not in
a recession, but everybody is living like we are. Jobs
are hard to come by, people's savings have been eviscerated.

(25:46):
And when you have candidates run here a question, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
What has to be done to turn the tide?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Look, you pointed out eighty one eighty two percent of
young women eighteen to twenty nine in New York City
voted for Mom Donnie same.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Similar numbers in SAT.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
We hear about young men and how young men are
breaking for Republicans and Conservative candidates, but not the women.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
How do you reel that in? How do you get
this back?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Because if not, if Donald Trump can't deliver on some
of those economic promises that he made during the campaign
leading up to the election last year, there's going to
be a real blood bath. I think in the midterms
we have got to get to the word affordability. How
do we get there?

Speaker 9 (26:24):
This election is a canary in the coal mine for
the twenty twenty six mid terms. If we don't start
talking about the economic issues that the average American is facing.
Wall Street is not average America when you're talking about
these tech billionaires Elon Musk getting a trillion dollar pay package.

(26:44):
We live in a free market and you should be
able to make as much money as you want. But
the reality of it is when the American people are
looking to see those that this administration is siding with
and what the issues that they're talking about. If you're
not talking about the economic well being of the average
American to pay for rent, gas, groceries, childcare, healthcare, which

(27:04):
is a very increasing issue in this country, we have
to start talking about the pain of the everyday American
otherwise the GOP will suffer a wopping defeat in next November.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
And this is a serious issue.

Speaker 9 (27:19):
Exactly needs to have that conversation.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, we certainly do, and we're going to continue to
have it here and I look forward to having you
back again because this is incredibly important. From a former
DSA member to a person who said, wait a second,
this is not true. A lot of promises for free stuff,
but a lot of promises turn out to be empty.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'm sure.

Speaker 9 (27:36):
Thank you for being here, absolutely, thank you, Steve.

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Coming up after the break, I'll bring on a chapter
present from TPUSA to discuss a memorial held in the
UK for the late Charliekirk that was quickly sabotaged by
well by radical leftists. More on that coming up on
abl The word Charlie Kirk put in building turning point

(29:01):
USA to its height is a thing of marvel, especially
because the influence of TPUSA has reached an international scale.
Now we take you across the pond of Manchester, England,
where memorial held for Charlie Kirk was sabotaged by violent
protesters who did everything in their power to garner a
reaction from the TPUSA crowd by tastelessly wearing white freedom

(29:22):
shirts with red paint smeared on them, along with other
displays of gross disgross behavior. The organizer of the event,
Lois Miller, belonged to the Pro Life Society at the
University of Manchester and noted that the protesters outnumbered them
ten to one and had it not been for the police,
people would have got hurt. Judy to discuss is the

(29:42):
president of tpusa's UC Berkeley chapter, John Paul Leone.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
John Paul, thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I mean, the visceral hate for Charlie Kirk to me
is bizarre, but turning point, USA is growing every day.
What do you make of this outburst, these these protesters.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
In the UK.

Speaker 10 (30:03):
Yes, of course, So I hate to say it, but
I am not surprised at all, and the slightest And
that's a shame because when we had our event here
at UC Berkeley and we had our protest, people are saying, well,
you're going into a super liberal area, wouldn't you expect this,
And it's like, yes, I do expect it. And that's
exactly why it's wrong. Charlie Kirk was a man. He

(30:24):
was a great father, he was a great husband, and
he stood for something that he truly believed in and
not many people are courageous like that. And to see
a courageous man get shot in broad daylight, and your
reaction is to mock him, is to point out his
corpse and to laugh when you try to go and
infiltrate these memorials for people who loved him, and you
mock his death by wearing those freedom shirts and pretending

(30:48):
like you're the dead Charlie Kirk. That's just absolutely insane.
And what's even more insane is the expectation of it.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
The expectation because you just expect these people to come
out to mock the death of Charlie Kirk. I thought
America was a place where people liked free speech, where
the robust conversations and exchange of ideas was cornerstone, because I.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Believe it is.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I believe that the first moment in the Nited States
Constitution is the envy of the world, and we should
protect it with every fiber we have.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
That's what Charlie Kirk did. We have to carry on
that legacy, don't we. Yes.

Speaker 10 (31:27):
Absolutely, there are too many people now in America from
the left who just do not support free speech at all.
They might think they do, but then they'll often condition
it by saying free speeches not hate speech, or free
speech doesn't give you the right to preach fascism. And
the mistake they're making here is they're deeming us as
fascists so they can kill us, and they're doing that

(31:50):
without even having a conversation with us. They don't have
any idea what we believe. They don't even care what
we believe. Frankly, they just think Charlie Kirk to Turning
Point USA bad. We must do anything we need to
do to stop it, by any means necessary. And I've
been seeing that phrase a lot, by any means necessary,
and it's just quite a shame to see that there's

(32:11):
such a large movement. But I do believe there is hope.
I do believe the majority of Americans do still love
free speech and do still know that free speech is
a liberty that must be protected. And you know it
comes with the consequences of hearing things that you might
not like all the time, but that's what we have
to protect.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
John Paul greatly appreciate you being here.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Turning Point continues to go despite the backlash from the left.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
We need to be standing up proud and I think
our voices be heard. Thank you for being here on
a Friday. Thank you now.

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into America's Voice Live will continue in a moment.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well, it's that time of the year.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Flu season off to a roaring start, apparently, health officials
in the UK warning it could be the worst in decades.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
But don't they warn us about that every year?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Health officials in North Carolina reported for flu related deaths
already this year. The answer from the medical establishment has
been that more people need to get the flu vaccine.
That's what they say every year. It seems like a replay.
We could just play this segment again a year from today.
Here to discuss this with me is the chief of
Disaster and Emergency Medicine at the Wellness Company, my friend,
doctor Kelly Victory.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Doctor, nice to see you here today.

Speaker 11 (34:40):
Thanks very much for having me, Steve.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, I can put this on a loop every year.
It's the same thing. But here's the question. Isn't the
flu vaccine basically a guest they spin the wheel.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Well, this one will be the prevalent strain.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Does the vaccine really work or is it just hit
and miss a shot in the dark.

Speaker 11 (34:57):
You are quite correct, Steve. The flu vaccine is largely
it is very very low efficacy. And here's why. Influenza viruses,
much like other respiratory viruses, including rhinovirus and coronavirus number one,
they all mutate very quickly, so by the time researchers
have come up with whatever vaccine they want to produce,

(35:19):
that strain is gone. It's already mutated away. So you're
fighting last year's war and then you are correct. They
guess every year which strain of influenza is likely to
show up, and they make that guestimation months before flu
season starts. If they happen to guess well, in a
good year, the influenza vaccine might be as much as

(35:42):
fifty to fifty five percent effective. It allows a year
it can be well less than twenty percent effective. And
the reality is people are getting these shots every single year,
flogging their immune system to produce antibodies to a strain
that may or may not show up. And the reality
is we really ought to double down on those things

(36:06):
that improve our immune function because the vast majority of
people steve other than the very very old and the
very very young, will really generally sail through influenza. You
might be sick for five or seven days. But most
people will do just fine.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Now, if people do get sick, look, you got to
do everything you can to fight it, to stay healthy,
eat well, wash your hands.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
All the things that your mom told you were true.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
But if people do get sick, what can they do
to shorten the duration of the flu.

Speaker 11 (36:39):
Well, for starters, if you think you've been in contact
with somebody who are in a safe flying on planes
regularly the way I do, you can use the simplest
of things like oral sprays and nasal sprays intended to
prevent the virus from taking hold the nose in the
mouth are the primary ports of entry for upper respiratory viruses.

(37:00):
There are many of these nasal sprays and oral rinses
on the market. I am to like the one that
the Wellness Company has because it doesn't include any drugs,
no harsh chemicals. It's xylotol and erythritol and tastes really
really good. So I use that regularly because of how
much I travel. Then, should you develop symptoms, there are

(37:22):
medications that will decrease the duration of influenza, specifically tamiflu.
It's one of the medications that we include in our
medical kit. Not everybody needs to take it, as I said,
but it is an option for those people who think
that they might be at higher risk for severe infection
from influenza should they contract it.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, I want to talk to you about something else,
and that's politics, because it seems that politics is becoming involved,
entangled honestly in medicine, and it's not a good thing
for us overall.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
A lot of.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
These Democrat governors where they locked us down during COVID,
they also banned the use of iromactin. It became a
crime in some states to even write prescriptions for iromacten,
one of the most tested proven drugs of all time,
because people pounds be effective. I found it to be effective.
When I was sick with COVID, I took iromeactin in
the morning. After an argument with my doctor. She allowed
me to get the prescription. By that evening, doctor, I

(38:20):
was a different human being. I had turned the corner.
I was on my way to recovery almost completely.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
What about this wave of new ultraliberal governors.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Could they once again limit access to important drugs that
are used off label on a regular basis.

Speaker 11 (38:34):
They certainly given the precedent that was set during COVID.
It certainly is possible that was the first time in
my entire medical career that had happened where a legitimate prescription,
where a FDA approved drug was denied and you had
everyone from governors to CEOs of pharmaceutic pharmacies telling you

(38:56):
that you couldn't write that prescription or that they wouldn't
fill it. The reality is ivermectin is incredibly safe. It's
been taken by hundreds of millions of people every year
around the globe. It's over the counter in almost every
country other than the United States, and fortunately it is

(39:16):
likely to slowly become over the counter and more available
in the US. But in the meantime, you're right, Steve,
we have to fight this liberal wave of governors and
politicians who are overstepping their mounds. And it's one of
the reasons, frankly, that the Wellness Company was established.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, it's another one of the reasons that the Willness
Company offers American made ivermectin.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
You can get it there. Doctor appreciates you being here,
and we tell people how they can find it. You
have a great weekend. We'll talk again soon.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Thanks. So much, Steve.

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Now and welcome back.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
We've got a major story developing out of the Tennessee Valley,
and as usual, it's when you won't hear honestly from.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
The corporate media.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
The Tennessee Valley Authority, the largest public power provider in America,
is officially breaking away from the Biden era green energy
delusion and string itself back toward President Donald Trump's America
First Energy agenda. Folks, this shift is long overdue. At
their final board meeting of the year, the TVA's leadership
made some.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Things very clear.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
The AC is reversing course and preparing to restore reliability, accountability,
and real energy production, not fantasy land solar targets cooked
up for climate activists.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
TVA is still operating without a full board quorum, which
means they can't formally implement major decisions quite yet. But
inside the agency, senior officials are saying outright, the TVA
is ready to move and move fast once President Trump's
nominees are confirmed by the Senate. Four of those dominees
already passed committee with strong support of fifth is awaiting
a hearing. Once they're confirmed, the TVA will finally have

(42:18):
a fully rebounced board that can take decisive action and
deliver on the Trump administration's mission to unleash American energy,
create jobs, and secure long term prosperity for this country.
And let's be honest, TVA needs this pivot badly because
during the Biden years, TVA was dragged into one of
the most misguided energy detours in its past history. Past

(42:40):
leadership pushed huge carbon neutral pledges and massive solar mandates
eighty percent carbon free by twenty thirty five and ten
gigawatts of solar by mid century. Nice bumper stickers and
slogan's terrible policy. That agenda swallowed resources that should have
gone to reliable, affordable baseload power. TV officials now admit
that those policies weakened the grid, diverted investment, and created

(43:03):
unnecessary risk for the millions of Americans who depend on
TVA electricity every single day that era is ending. New
CEO Don Moole, who took office in April, is sigling
a total course correction. He's doing it while earning a
million's less than his predecessor, Jeff lash who alone tells
you how loaded the previous leadership had become under Biden's watch.

(43:25):
Under this new direction, TVA is preparing for one of
the largest investment periods in its nearly century long history,
focusing on nuclear power, grid reliability, modernization, and economic growth
across the entire Tennessee Valley region. No more chasing unrealistic
climate goals. No more diverting billions into unreliable solar rays,
no more pretending that intermittent energy is the future of

(43:48):
a modern a nation including ours. TVA and SIRES say
they are ready to fully relign with President Trump's priorities,
but they need the Senate to get this going. By
confirming the nominees, a TVA can officially move. Once that
board is seated, TVA expected to spend a permanent shift
back to energy, to independence, reliability, and American strength, the
exact opposite at the cost of renewable mandates pushed under

(44:12):
Joe Biden. The bottom line is simple. TVA is turning
the page. TVA is reclaiming its mission, and TVA is
getting back to what it does best, delivering dependable, affordable
power to Americans and putting America's energy future back where
it belongs in American hands. And so that's quite a
big story coming out of the Tennessee Value Authority today.

(44:32):
We'll keep you update on that in the weeks to come. Remember,
if you want to be part of the program, you
can always send me an email here go to Steve
Gruber dot com send me an email, might use it
right here on the air. In the meantime, God bless
you and have a great weekend. We'll talk soon.
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