June 28, 2025 • 48 mins
Breaking Point with David Zere - June 28, 2025
A - David discusses his time reporting from the White House and the events of the week
B - David and Uri Kaufman talk NYC Mayor race, Iran bombing and Middle East
C - David and Major Fred Galvin talk about Classified info leak and Iran attack
D - David and Donald Wilkie discuss the NYC Mayoral Race effects on business and more
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hello, everybody, Welcome to Breaking Point. You're watching Real America's
Voice News. I have an action packed show for you today,
and man, has it been a whirlwind. I got back
from Washington, DC last week. Real America's Voice News sent
me down there to fill in for Brian Glenn who
was out for a couple of days. And I was
down there at the White House when the Iran bombing
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took place and got to be on the South lawn
watching Trump's departure on Marine one for Bedminster and then.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
His return to the next day.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And obviously the decision was already made when he got
off the chopper because that mission started seventeen hours before,
but we didn't know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What was up.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Trump looked resolute, determined, did not stop and take any
questions like he did before at Bedminster or in Jersey
at the airport on his way to Bedminster. And it
was really just a fascinating situation unfolding at the White House.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We knew something was up, and then an hour later
we got word there was a bombing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But then there was a tight lid on the press
at six forty pm and we broadcast well into the night,
I think almost to about midnight.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But you know, Trump making a speech from.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
The East Room in the White House, historic and historic event,
and you know, not only peace through strength, but taking
decisive and bold action to end an existential threat not
just to Israel but the surrounding countries around Israel and
potentially the United States, because Iran's goal was to take
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you know, ballistic missiles and throw their you know, nuclear
weaponized missiles at other countries, or even if they just
wanted it as a deterrent, they've been bad actors.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And if you take all.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
The terrorists attack going back to like Jim Buckley, the
CIA station chief and I think in Lebanon and Colonel
Higgins hanging our colonel on TV and the US Navy
seal dumped on the tarmac in Beirut in the early
eighties on the TWA flight and blowing up our embassy twice,
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killing two hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And forty one Marines who are in Lebanon.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And you know the attack on the Senior Center in Argentina,
I think they killed about eighty five seniors.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
An attack on Jews Cobar Towers.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Killing nineteen of a serviceman, but a year before did
it another attack prior that killed five or six American
troops as well.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
These guys are bad actors. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I am concerned about all the intertwined things involved over
there in the stability of you know, Iran right now,
and there's a lot of you know, there's Salafes, there's
the Suni versus the Shia element. You've got Turkey chomping
at the bit, seething, you know, to make a move here.
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You know, they benefited from the HTS in Syria because
they're Salafes, and Erdawan is exploiting that and he benefited
from that. So will there be expanded influence in the region,
And where does it leave the safety of the Gulf States?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Right You've got the uae an.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Incredible economy, like one hundred years of or one hundred
billion barrels in reserve of oil over there, but they
also buy like seven or eight billion dollars in goods
from Iran every year, including petrochemicals and some fossil fuels.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And other goods.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And the other nations over there and Cotter where you
had the International Brotherhood money over there and Salafi terraces
over there, and then you got the Saudi government you know,
who was actually attacking Salafi terrorists for US after nine
to eleven in the Egyptian region and other areas.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
They've got their own.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Intricate battles between al Qaeda, which is basically dedicated to
taking out the royal family going back to the Wahabas
in the eighteenth century, going all the way back to
Timanere in the thirteenth century, and the strict interpretation of
the Quran. You know, there's a battle going on inside
the Islamic world.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And then you've got the Dao Bande.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You know, al Qaeda was means the base, but they
were like fourteen groups that evolved from that. And then
you've got the dale Bondi operating on the Indian subcontinent
in Sri Lanka and other areas. So this is a
powder keg, and this is something to take lightly. But
we can't be MUSHes and we can't be delivering palettes
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of cash, two billion dollars in cash on pallets, you know.
And I'm not an advocate of going to war unless
you really have to. But you know, Trump made a decision.
I think it's been effective thus far, and something we
have to keep a lid on, a cap on to
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make sure if there are any attacks on Alisada Air Base,
which they attacked after Solomoni was killed by Trump in
twenty seventeen. You know, Trump's the only one who's taken action,
and you know, some of these preemptive strikes, like these
incredible attacks in Somalia. We had sixteen f eighteen super Horn.
It's taken off of the deck of the USS Harry
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Truman in the Red Sea over there and going into
Somalia and taking out Al Shabab and Isis targets, the
largest navy based bombing in the history of the world,
authorized under Donald Trump to take out Shabab and Isis
guys hiding in caves and cave networks in Somalia. So
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there's been a string of things that Trump has done
that you know, don't get much attention and he's not
getting credit for that may prevent these When people say
forever wars, they don't want to be entrenched somewhere after
fifteen or twenty years anymore, and they don't want us
lives dying or to be maimed. And unexpected circumstances like
Solomon's brutal IEDs that may have led to the deaths
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of somewhere between six hundred and one thousand US soldiers
and iraqed these liquid metal forming copper explosive devices that
melt at like four thousand degrees. The copper, you know,
tied into these one fifty five millimeters shells that go
and they split our convoys like butter because the copper
melts and creates a spear. And I'll never forget my
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time at Chris Levy. I used to run a veterans
group and take wounded soldiers the most grievously wounded soldiers
from Ward fifty seven in the Army Hospital Walter red
in DC took them to Congress to testify about conditions Aghanistan.
Being out hundreds of miles from the main post, they
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couldn't trust the tribal police, tribal leaders or the local police,
and you know, these guys are stuck out there and
they were getting maimed and under attack and couldn't trust people.
So it's really important that we don't go to war
unless we really have to. And I look at as
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Afghanistan as a success in the sense that we prevented
many terrorist attacks around the world. I have family and
the Joint Terrors and test force that was taking off
the battlefield the most wanted by the FBI after nine
to eleven and transporting them to Gitmo.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And we did do a lot of good things and
we didn't lose like soldiers.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
For the last seventeen or nineteen months of the Trump presidency,
right prior to Trump there, Biden takes.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Over and just throws everything in the garbage.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So listen, I can go on forever about this stuff,
but Trump's in the driver's seat. Get in respect from NATO.
And these B two missions were so incredible, seven B
two bombers taking off and dropping these bunker busters on there.
There were Operation Midnight Hammer was the largest strike package.
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They dropped four one hundred and twenty thousand pounds of GBUS,
not including the thirty or one thousand pound te LAMB
Tomahawk missiles on these locations, and I ran that may
have crippled the Iranian weapons nuclear weapons program at least
for now, maybe for a number of years. But the
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longest B two Spirit mission prior to that was in
two thousand and one when B two Spirit bombers from
the five h ninth bomb wing from Whiteman Air Force
Base flew three days of missions, like forty five hours
of missions.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was like a fifteen thousand mile bombing run en
route to.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Over there in Afghanistan. And I got to tell you
what these pilots are able to pull off is so
incredible and deserves credit.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You know, the largest strikes.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Before that, or the longest distance covered by bomber strikes,
you have to go back to, like I think the
First Gulf War there was a very long mission there.
But nineteen eighty two British Vulcan bombers went from the
Ascension Islands and tacked Port Stanley in the Falklands War,
and that was about eight thousand miles and within flight refuelings,
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and that was a big accomplishment for the British, for
the Royal Air Force. But the number of things happening
under Trump is stunning. We're securing a position in the world.
I just think that we have to watch things really closely,
and I don't want things to escalate in Ukraine. We'll
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see where Russia's are going to stand and what they're
going to do. But they said week that every step
of Russian soldier takes in Ukraine belongs to the Russians.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So I hope that doesn't want to double.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Down now because we've protracted this war out and uh,
you know, it looks like Zelenski might be coming around
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Uh, So we're going to follow all this closely. But
I've got a great show for you today. I want
to thank you so much for joining us. I'm so
honored to be part of the Real America's Voice news family.
I want to thank all your viewers. I enjoyed your
diverse views going in the war room chat this past
week when I was in Washington, d C. That's what's
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Trump right now, and you know that's what makes America great.
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Speaker 2 (12:07):
Your head's probably spinning already. I'm gonna make it spin
around a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So much going on, so much to talk about here,
But I have Ury Kaufman with us.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
We've had him on before.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Middle East expert, author of American Intifada in eighteen days
in October.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I want to welcome back Ury Kaufman.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
How are you, sir, great, great to be here, Thanks
so much.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yes, you gave us some great insight the last time
you were on. I know that you're a respected historian
and an author about what's happening here. I wanted to
come out of the gate and talk about this New
York City mayor's race because you know, Zooran Mandani is
a Muslim. And it's not just because he's Muslim. He's
a radical leftist, Marxist Muslim. And now you're going to
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have two of the largest cities in the world or
in the Western hemisphere outside of Mexico City, London and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
New York led by a radical Islamist. What do you say.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I don't care that he's a Muslim, honestly, And to
be honest, I don't know much about the mayor of London,
but I could tell you.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You know, I live in three blocks from New York City.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm right in Long Island, but right on the on
the county line.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I grew up in New York.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know, I've been living around here my whole life.
So we're all trying to get take a measure of
this guy. But what they're saying is just downright terrifying.
They're saying he actually compared the October seventh Hamas attack
with the Warsaw ghetto uprising.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I mean, are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
What does he think of nine to eleven? Is that
like the Alamo? That maybe the Honaker Roof? I mean,
this guy's if that's true, he's nuts and he's just
playing crazy. He talks about globalized to fada. That's a
call to violence. His policies are bonkers. He's talking about
socialized grocery stores. He's talking about a rent in a
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city that already has.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
A housing shortage.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
There's tens of thousands of empty apartments in New.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
York because landlords can't afford.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
To renovate them to make them habitable, because they're not
allowed to charge rent.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He says, let's double down. You can't charge what you're charging.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Now we'll all be homeless the way we're going. And
what's scariest of all is we've been through this.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
New York elected a radical liberal in the nineteen sixties
named John Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Now he was nominally a Republican because in those days,
the progressives were actually Republican, as hard as it is
to believe.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Luckily, you know, Ronald Reagan drew the drove the money
changers out of the Temple and got rid of them.
But he was a radical liberal. He did the same stuff,
and the city burned down. You know, if you can't
charge rent enough to upkeep your building, you abandoned it.
And an abandoned building is a fire waiting to happen.
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Under Deblasio, which is you know, two mayors ago, he stopped.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Giving rent in increases.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So we're already like twelve years into this where the
landlords are all starving. In the nineteen sixties, New York
found out that they thought they were cheating their landlords,
they ended up cheating themselves.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
We're gonna find out the same thing with this guy.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
John Lindsay ran in a plurality. He won in a
plurality in a three way race. Now with the four
or five way race, Zorn could win. It's a very
real possibility here. And there's like there's I think two
hundred thousand Muslim voters in the city that would add
to his base probably. And again I agree with you,
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it's not that he's a Muslim. It's his positions and
they're very scary.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
They're very scary.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And like I said to you know, I always talk
about the watermelon where Islam meets Marxism, the red in
the middle for the communists and the green on the
outside from us. My friend Rich Higgins wrote a paper
on that in the National Security Council. God Rest his soul,
and McMaster didn't like it, but Trump loved it and he.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Got fired for writing that paper.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
All right, So I wanted to talk about your You
wrote a book eighteen days in October talking about the
Young Kupole War or the was it the Young Kippot
War or seventy three?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that's so.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
In comparison to this war, which lasted about twelve days.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
In a sense, are there any comparisons?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Well, certainly, First of I got to go back to
the watermelon analogy because it's spot on, because I don't
know if you even realize this, but the Palestinians have
made watermelon one of their great symbols because if you
look at the Palestinian flag, it's got the red triangle.
So think of a slice of watermelon, and that's a
that's a big symbol for them, so it's it's pretty apt.
But anyway, I mean, the obvious way that the two
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compare is the surprise attack the Egyptians and the Syrians
attack by surprise on the Young Kipoor holiday in nineteen
seventy three caught everyone by surprise.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
This time it was on.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
October the seventh, which was another Jewish holiday called Simchatorah,
and they did the same thing this time. They really
it ended very very badly for the Arabs is now
a parent. The other comparison is, in both instances it
was a Republican president that rescued Israel, and in both instances,
I have to tell you.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I shuddered to think of what.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Would have happened if the Democrat had won the election.
George McGovern, who ran, of course against Nixon in seventy two,
was a.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Very unabashed liberal.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He was not very fond of Israel, and that was
against the stream in those days. In those days the
Democrats were very pro Israel. He stood out the other way.
And I don't tell you what Kamala was all about.
I mean, Kamala basically said during the while she was
vice president, in a speech on July twenty fifth, twenty
twenty four that if she won the election, Israel was
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going to lose that war.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
She was going to put a stop to it. So
I guess in both instances Israel got lucky that way.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, going back to the Sixth Day War and in
nineteen sixty seventy is Rael, he's knocked out like a
third of the Egyptian air force for the even took off,
and their air campaign in seventy three was like a
forty six hour battle. I was unprecedented right for its time.
I wanted to talk about George mcgovernal quick, My old
boss was a Republican leader here in New York in
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Suffolk County, and he worked alongside Nickson. He bought an
eighty one thousand vote majority to suff County, one of
the highest in the nation next to Orange County, California.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
But he always he gave me this article.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That George McGovern wrote called run your business for your
run for office, because he was a socialist, right but
in the nineties he tried to build a hotel in
Connecticut as a private builder, and he foiled because of
the bureaucracy, and he wrote an article called run your
business before you run for government or run for office.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I thought that was a lesson in life for him.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
It's true, and what he should have written was run
your business the way Ronald Reagan ran government, and then
he might have actually succeeded. But yeah, I mean that's
absolutely the case. You know, politics were very different in
those days.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Lyndon Johnson was.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Until Donald Trump, I would have said, the most friendly
president Israel ever had.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
He was outstanding, he was great.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
And in those days, you know, if you were a Democrat,
it was fine to be pro Israel. But unfortunately we're
in another time and in our time, too many Democrats
I think are just too juiced up on the issue
of race.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And that's really what this boils down. To ask yourself
a simple question.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
You know, Biden budgeted billions of dollars for the Palestinians after.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
The October seven attack. Now, he would have said it
was for the innocent civilians.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Okay, I get that, But try to imagine if the
Palestinians were white supremacists who attacked Israel, who murdered twelve
hundred people, who raped women, who said Jews aer apes
and pigs, and the opinion poll showed complete support as
it did in Gaza. Do you really think Biden would
have given billions of dollars, you know, to white supremacists
who said those things. Of course he wouldn't. But here
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we are and now people of color. So now the
Democrats aren't so sure. And this is really the tide
that we're swimming against. And you know, you look at
Azora Mundani and co opting I can't even say Jewish
history and applying it to the October seven attack.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean, it's utterly bizarre.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, I was on the South Lawn last week waiting
for Trump's arrival on Marine one as the White House
correspondent for Real America's Voice News, filling in for Brian Glenn,
who's doing a great.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Job down there.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And Trump came right off the helicopter, right into the
White House to the Oval Office for a national security meeting,
and then they put a lid on everything. But about
an hour later after we landed, they announced that they bombed,
you know, and that mission started seventeen hours earlier. But
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Trump kept a good lid on that. But it was
such an incredible evening in there. Now you predicted that,
you know, peace through strength would work for Trump but
you also have been an Africa.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I was worried about spillover.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I was worried about attacks on Cotter and Alisata air Base,
but that really hasn't panned out yet, right.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It most definitely is not.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
And those of us who observed this a lot thought
it played out exactly the way people thought.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I mean, once in a while the analysts actually get
it right.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
This is what the ir audience did back when Trump
took out Cossum Sulimani. They fired some rockets, it was choreographed.
A few Americans suffered some traumatic brain injury on not
minimizing that. But the fact of the matter is it
was a tiny fraction of what people expected. And I
want to make one other really important point. What Donald
Trump did you know? And I predicted he was going
to do it. I was sweating, And I'll tell you why.
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There was an Axios pole on Friday. Of course, the
American attack was Saturday night. There was an Axios pole
the day before, and it only showed sixteen percent of
Americans supporting the strike on Iran. So Donald Trump ordered
that strike frankly without the American people behind him. And I,
you know, I'm a bit of a history above. I
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was kind of poking around trying to find an example
of a leader going to war when that war would
have only enjoyed sixteen percent.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Of the polls. I couldn't find one. But Trump did it.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
And now, of course, like eighty percent of Americans say, yeah,
it was the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It was a great decision.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
So you know, that's what leadership is all about, and
that's what leadership through strength is all about.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And we're all experiencing the benefit.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Now Iran has stood down, the nuclear program is finally
finally gone. The world is a much much safer place,
and it's a safer place for America.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
He put America first.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Incredible events, incredible times that we're living in, all right,
So we got to go. But before we do, tell
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Speaker 4 (22:56):
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Speaker 3 (23:09):
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Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thank you very much, and social media. Ten seconds, social media.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know, I'm a twentieth century guy. I apologize. I
just you know I'll get there eventually.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I still have an Olive Eddy typewriter in my bedroom.
So all right, thank you Jurie Kaufman for joining us,
and we'll have you back soon.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Thank you so much. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Welcome you too. All right, everybody, don't go anywhere. We
got great stuff ahead. Well, you got to keep their
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head on a swivel to keep up with everything that
is going on. Trump making bold moves, showing leadership, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Get in respect at a NATO.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
While the media was trying to say, oh, you know
they're calling you daddy.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know all this what are you doing? Everybody? You know?
Meanwhile they're coughing up.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They're fast share except for Spain, but they'll talk to
them over a bolo gaspacho.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And these countries have to contribute and start defending themselves
and be ready for these things.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
In the United States could.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Save like three hundred and thirty five billion dollars a
year or so if we do that. I have our
next guest with US Major Fred Galvin. He's the author
of a Few Bad Men, the true story of the
US Marines ambushed in Afghanistan and betrayed in America.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Thank you very much for having me, David.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I know that you have your own experiences to share
with the audience, and thank you so much for your
service your US Marine Corps retired. Correct, that's correct, And
you know Trump under a lot of pressure. It's got
to be extraordinary, but he plans on limiting sending classified
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information to Congress after this intel assessment on Iran damage
was leaked? Is this unprecedented? And tell us about your
book and how it compares to your experiences.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Absolutely, well, this is exactly where the director, the Director
of National Intelligence needs to provide who has a requirement
to know this information. So just because someone has a
top secret clearance as I did in the Marines and
as an intelligence official afterwards after retiring from the Marine Corps,
you may have a top secret security clearance, you may
(26:13):
have access to special access programs, but if you do
not have the need to know specific programs, you don't
have the right to know that. And as you mentioned,
there was one gentleman who was in the Special Operations
Task Force that I was a commander of. He had
He didn't spill the information, he didn't share the information
(26:34):
or leak it, but he had classified information on a
government unclassified computer. Now that computer was not plugged in
any type of Internet source where it was shared. But
he created briefs and he was The bottom line is
he built briefs on a classified computer for his convenience
(26:56):
because it was faster for them to do that on
an unclassified computer and put a thumb drive in and
put it into a and it was just big no, no,
big no no. So everyone who signs who has a
classified clearance, whether it's secret or top secret or beyond that.
With polygraph and special access programs. You signed documents that
(27:18):
say it's critical to grave if you ever divulge any
of this information, which is different than mishandling it, you
can you know, oops, I oh, I forgot, you know,
and not be wittingly. You know, those are still punishable.
And in this gentleman case, in the task force that
(27:38):
I commanded, he was separated from the United States Marine
Corps and he was an officer. So this, this does happen,
but it seems strange that people who are sharing information
are spilling it intentionally in the intelligence community and with
members of Congress, they're not held account. This is what
we need to correct.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, and in such a politically charged environment, in your situation,
you commanded a special operations task force in combat, right,
and you were ambushed by the Tally ban and you
would drag through the mud under law fair and other
types of things.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
How does that relate to classified information?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Well, very similar. And I'm going to add a different.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Subject, but what the Secretary of Defense and the President
were discussing last night, where you have highly trained, skilled warriors,
in our case special operators fighting on the ground against
an enemy, and in this case, what occurred this last
week or weekend. These were the most highly trained aviators
doing a you know, a day and a half long
(28:44):
mission in the air, precise coordinators dropping precision guiding munitions
on target. And now you have people downplaying American citizens.
You have people doing that on social media, you have
members of Congress, you have members of media, and then
some somebody says they're in the intelligence community and they're
(29:04):
spilling information that the public doesn't have a right to
know that. So just like this administration, they have a
right to go out and track down who had access
to that information, where that was shared, put subpoenas on
people who in the media who said that, Okay, this
person gave this to me, you cannot. I mean that
is national security information that is not sharable with people
(29:29):
without that clearance, and definitely not in the media. But
this did, this type of lawfare did happen to us.
We were going after the n Emmy. We were shot at,
blown up, shot out on multiple sides, sniper fire, trapped
in this kill zone. We killed the enemy at nine
o'clock in the morning, point blank, and then this started,
you know, within twenty minutes. This was out on the
(29:50):
BBC first and then the New York Times Washington Post
for twelve years we got assassinated.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Even after we went.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Through the longest courtroom trial where we were exonerated. There
are some people who wanted to lay the blame on,
particularly myself and the unit that I commanded, so they
would do these dry buys in the media. So even
I served for seven more years and even after the
day I retired, they hit me that day and several
other times that year, and it continued on and it's
(30:19):
very damaging, like the President's experiencing with this professional destruction.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But you turned it the other way and you were
saying that you know, because you're targeted like Trump, you
never backed down. Tell us about that refusal to fail
and fighting back.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yes, So some people who have voted for people that
they respect, and in my case, these are military officers,
very senior general officers who in America we have a
lot of patriotism, but it's just like we have in
the military as trust but verify if you do something
where you're dragging your own members of the Marine Corps,
(31:00):
the frontline foot soldiers, and you're destroying them, you need
to be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That that needs to be exposed.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
So that's that's what took me eleven years to get
this information declassified, which what I just described to you, David,
that's a garden variety gun battle. This is not Jason
Bourne's knock list or the locations of the submarines at sea.
This is you know, day one tactics of Taliban attacking marines.
(31:27):
So there was no need to have this procedure that
they use in the courtroom where for three and a
half weeks longest courtroom trial Marine Corps history, they would
move the media out of the court. Media was allowed
in there, but every time there was a defense witness
with exculptory information which they knew, the media would get
escorted out. So you got one side of the media.
So we were exonered, but the label in the press.
(31:51):
That continued for twelve years until January two, twenty nineteen,
the day after General Maddis was fired by President Trump
as his secretary of Defense. Well six months actually seven
months prior to that. In May twenty eighteen, a board
convened in the Pentagon and they fully exonerated us. But
they sat on their hands because not only was General
(32:11):
Madison Secretary of Defense in twenty eighteen. But he was
a convening authority in our case in two thousand and seven,
so he was the puppeteer. He was the geppetto pulling
all this strings, and he did not want.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
But we were exonerated.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Thank god for this female civilian general counsel with the
Department of the Navy. She bottom lined this twelve page
report that named names, and that was what fully exonerate
is under Donald Trump's watch.
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All right, I'm very grateful I know you far away
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Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Breaking Point, Unreal America's Voice News.
I'll tell you this last couple of weeks has been
some journey between all the things covering the Ice protest,
the New York City Bernie Carrick's funeral, the two hundred
and fiftieth Army Parade, filling in for Brian Glenn as
a White House correspondent while the bombing was going on
(36:34):
with Iran. Really just an incredible time to live.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
And I had some hope for Washington, DC when I
was there.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I have a little bit of hope for New York
City until the results of the primaries. And here to
discuss that for the mayoral race is author Donald Wilkie.
He's the author of Freedom Revealed, a simple, elegant system.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Welcome to the show, Thanks for having me pleasure to
be here.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, it's great to have you.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And you know, I could see the campaign slogan now
don't mess with the zo ran right in New York City, Mom,
Donnie basically a radical Marxist, the watermelon where Islam meets
the Marxist culture. Green on the outside for Islam, red
(37:27):
in the middle for socialism, Marxism and communism.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
What do you say, well, socialism doesn't work. But the
problem is most people never ask the question why doesn't
it work? And that's what I answer in my book.
And the real simple answer, if you will allow me, sure,
is that everybody thinks socialism is an economic system, but
(37:53):
in reality, it's a government system. And what it is
is the government distorting the marketplace.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
And the reason the marketplace and.
Speaker 8 (38:02):
Government are different is because government is singular, so there's
no competition. The marketplace has a lot of competition. One's
a competitive system, one's a non competitive system, and that
makes all the difference.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Right, So we have this incredible mayor's race going on.
I think part of the reason why I'm Donnie won
the primary was a protest vote against Cuomo in a way.
And you know, I would take Curtis over anybody. I
would even take Adams over anybody besides Curtis, because he's
kind of getting a message.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
He got away with murder, maybe with.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
You know, his corrupt police commissioner under him, the Turkish deal.
Trump not pursuing you know, the indictments and all that
other stuff. So but the new police commission is doing
a better job in New York City.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Jessica tish Now.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Shootings and murders down, Rape still let twenty two percent,
felony assaults still at twenty five your highs. The Blasio
numbers misdemeanor assaults up thirty something thousand. New York has
assaulted in the streets. But the business climate in New
York City is awful. There's no buzz anymore. Curtis took
a picture last year of Third Avenue at ten in
the morning. There's no traffic, you know, there's not really
(39:17):
a lot going on. Congestion pricings killed it the economy.
COVID forty percent of the office building is still empty,
so or only forty percent of the building still occupied
for office spase since COVID tell us what is the
damage that having a socialist as a mayor is going
to do to New York If that happens.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Well, he's just going to distort the marketplace further.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
The only way you eliminate waste is through competition, and
in socialism there is no competition. The way I always
win the socialist argument as I ask a socialist how
do you eliminate waste? And they never have an answer.
So you have a socialist system. You let the government
run grocery stores he's talking about, and you're just going.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
To compound it.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Why did they have to wait in the Soviet Union
for hours at a time to get a chunk of meat,
hair sticking out of it?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
You know, I saw the bread lines. I saw the
breadlines in Moscow in eighty six. I saw them.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Well, that's how it works. I mean you have waste.
Speaker 8 (40:18):
Now, what happens in the private sector when you have competition, Hey,
people won't go there, and what happens to your company?
You go out of business. Well, what happens to government
if nothing works?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Right?
Speaker 5 (40:29):
They stay there and they can they double down on
what they're doing. So that's the whole problem.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
So, Ma'mdonnie's economic platform has some crazy things and it
can you go over some of his things like rent
stabilization and getting rid of like privately owned convenience stores.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
What's this guy doing?
Speaker 8 (40:48):
Well, I just heard a little bit about his marketplace,
I mean grocery store proposition. And the buildings aren't going
to pay rent, they're not going to pay taxes, So
that's going to cut your costs and et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. We're not going to make a profit, so
that's going to cut your costs. What he never says,
what they never talk about, is the waste that government
(41:10):
has to create. A non competitive system has to create waste.
You can't eliminate it, and that's always way worse than
any savings you might talk about. And again, anytime you
look at a socialist system, they're always dirt poor and
nobody understands why. But it's just simply a lack of competition.
(41:32):
They're not a marketplace system, they're a government system.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
You know, New York City might be one of the
safest large cities in the country per capita, but I
will tell you that it's probably the filthiest and the rodents,
the leaks, the mold right, the heating breakdowns. These landlords,
(41:59):
you know, they can't survive if the government wants to
take their property or give them, you know, peanuts in
New York City's used, the free market, high rents, Fifth Avenue, Downtown,
all that stuff. We're looking at the middle class being
wiped out.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (42:17):
Now I should tell you that I'm from Detroit, and
Detroit went broke, as you know, and.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
It saw everything you're talking about. Now. A lot sooner
than New York has.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
And that's exactly what happened to Detroit, the entire industrial base.
Detroit was the greatest industrial city in the country in
the fifties sixties, and by nineteen eighty, the entire industrial
base had left it. There was nothing left. There is
no tax revenue for the government. And today in Detroit,
believe it or not, there's vast open areas, acres and
(42:54):
acres open field where they've just torn everything down. Now,
we were never as big New York, and that's a difference,
but there was no law. Yeah, he reigned in Detroit,
and it looks like it's coming to New York.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I worked alongside the Juliani administration representing private developers, and
I am a first hand witness and a participant to
Giuliani New York City Housing Partnership taking the Jack Kemp
enterprise zones, giving people maybe a grant through like the
State Sunny May Lending program, which was a great program
first time buyers. It would take some money off the
(43:32):
sale price of a new home. They would give the
land to the builders if it was city owned or
tax condemned or in rem lots, and they were able
to build these three story town homes. You know that
would go for not a lot of money, But you
gave title to people. They cleaned up the streets, they
kicked out the drug dealers. I watched the firsthand at
Bushwick and the Bronx. That's why we had Williamsburg today
(43:53):
and the Park's Slope revival and all that other stuff.
But his anchor revitalization program, bringing back and attracting retail
businesses is guaranteeing with federal seed money, guarantees for Bilders
to take risks in bad areas Brooklyn Avenue, Brooklyn, Coney Island,
Mermaid Avenue, Harlem, one twenty fifth Street, one sixteenth in Lenox.
Who is going to do that for New York City?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
But you made a great point. Unless a person has
skin in the game, what do they care?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, you know, they.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Have to have an investment.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
And if they don't have an investment, they got nothing
to lose. So that is another problem with socialism. You
don't have people with an investment, right, And Giuliani did
a terrific job in New York, almost.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
A miracle job, but it was predictable.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
You have to let the marketplace work and prosperity is
created when waste is eliminated.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
From the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
It's quite simple, right, So, Okay, we have this really
competitive mayoral race, and if there's a four or five
waist split, Curtis I only got twenty eight percent last
general election.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
He only needs thirty to.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Thirty five percent to win in a plurality like John
Lindsay did in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
He won in a three way race.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
If Cuomo jumps back in and runs and mem Donnie
is the Democratic candidate, and then you have working families running,
this could be and then you might have Adam staying
in as independent, could be a path for Curtis Lee
or what do you say?
Speaker 8 (45:26):
It'd be very nice. I mean, I like Curtis. I
like the things he's done. What I don't know is
the money behind Mondanmi. He's obviously well finded. Somebody is
propping him up. I don't know how deep the pockets are,
And that's the question I think we should know.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, well, I guess it's also a question of where
will Bloomberg's money go. You know, he gave it to Cuomo,
and Cuomo could stay in.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
He's not out. You know, but I don't know. The
whole thing's kind of a disaster. Here. Tell us about
your book.
Speaker 8 (45:59):
Well, well, it's the first time freedom has been looked
at as a mechanical system as opposed to a philosophy.
And I'll get to the heart of it. I've talked
about it basically a little bit already. But I looked
at nature and I asked myself, how does nature work?
And one of the statements all environmentalists have is there's
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no waste in nature. Well, the question is what drives
waste out of nature? And the obvious answer is competition.
Competition eliminates waste. So the market, the natural world is
extremely competitive. And the other part of the foundation of
nature is everything in nature moves to ease. That's why
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we have signs at national parks that say do not
feed the animals. So you take three simple concepts and
apply them to everything, and they explain everything, how prosperity
is created, why welfare never works, why socialism never works.
And it's quite astounding when you take just these three
(47:03):
simple concepts, almost like the three basic colors, and put
them together in different ways and you can predict outcomes.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Sure, tell our viewers Where can they get your book?
And where can they follow you?
Speaker 5 (47:15):
Sub Stack you can follow me there.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
I've got videos on YouTube too, Freedom revealed dot net
and of course Amazon, the big giant in the in
the house.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, all right, everybody.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Donald Wilkie, author of Freedom revealed the Simple Elegant System,
Thank you so much for joining us on everybody. Thank
you for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News.
I'm sure more excitement coming this week. Well, we'll see
you next time.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Don't go anywhere
Hello, everybody, Welcome to Breaking Point. You're watching Real America's
Voice News. I have an action packed show for you today,
and man, has it been a whirlwind. I got back
from Washington, DC last week. Real America's Voice News sent
me down there to fill in for Brian Glenn who
was out for a couple of days. And I was
down there at the White House when the Iran bombing
(00:34):
took place and got to be on the South lawn
watching Trump's departure on Marine one for Bedminster and then.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
His return to the next day.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And obviously the decision was already made when he got
off the chopper because that mission started seventeen hours before,
but we didn't know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What was up.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Trump looked resolute, determined, did not stop and take any
questions like he did before at Bedminster or in Jersey
at the airport on his way to Bedminster. And it
was really just a fascinating situation unfolding at the White House.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We knew something was up, and then an hour later
we got word there was a bombing.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But then there was a tight lid on the press
at six forty pm and we broadcast well into the night,
I think almost to about midnight.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But you know, Trump making a speech from.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
The East Room in the White House, historic and historic event,
and you know, not only peace through strength, but taking
decisive and bold action to end an existential threat not
just to Israel but the surrounding countries around Israel and
potentially the United States, because Iran's goal was to take
(01:54):
you know, ballistic missiles and throw their you know, nuclear
weaponized missiles at other countries, or even if they just
wanted it as a deterrent, they've been bad actors.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And if you take all.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
The terrorists attack going back to like Jim Buckley, the
CIA station chief and I think in Lebanon and Colonel
Higgins hanging our colonel on TV and the US Navy
seal dumped on the tarmac in Beirut in the early
eighties on the TWA flight and blowing up our embassy twice,
(02:28):
killing two hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And forty one Marines who are in Lebanon.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And you know the attack on the Senior Center in Argentina,
I think they killed about eighty five seniors.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
An attack on Jews Cobar Towers.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Killing nineteen of a serviceman, but a year before did
it another attack prior that killed five or six American
troops as well.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
These guys are bad actors. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I am concerned about all the intertwined things involved over
there in the stability of you know, Iran right now,
and there's a lot of you know, there's Salafes, there's
the Suni versus the Shia element. You've got Turkey chomping
at the bit, seething, you know, to make a move here.
(03:17):
You know, they benefited from the HTS in Syria because
they're Salafes, and Erdawan is exploiting that and he benefited
from that. So will there be expanded influence in the region,
And where does it leave the safety of the Gulf States?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Right You've got the uae an.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Incredible economy, like one hundred years of or one hundred
billion barrels in reserve of oil over there, but they
also buy like seven or eight billion dollars in goods
from Iran every year, including petrochemicals and some fossil fuels.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And other goods.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And the other nations over there and Cotter where you
had the International Brotherhood money over there and Salafi terraces
over there, and then you got the Saudi government you know,
who was actually attacking Salafi terrorists for US after nine
to eleven in the Egyptian region and other areas.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
They've got their own.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Intricate battles between al Qaeda, which is basically dedicated to
taking out the royal family going back to the Wahabas
in the eighteenth century, going all the way back to
Timanere in the thirteenth century, and the strict interpretation of
the Quran. You know, there's a battle going on inside
the Islamic world.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And then you've got the Dao Bande.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You know, al Qaeda was means the base, but they
were like fourteen groups that evolved from that. And then
you've got the dale Bondi operating on the Indian subcontinent
in Sri Lanka and other areas. So this is a
powder keg, and this is something to take lightly. But
we can't be MUSHes and we can't be delivering palettes
(04:54):
of cash, two billion dollars in cash on pallets, you know.
And I'm not an advocate of going to war unless
you really have to. But you know, Trump made a decision.
I think it's been effective thus far, and something we
have to keep a lid on, a cap on to
(05:16):
make sure if there are any attacks on Alisada Air Base,
which they attacked after Solomoni was killed by Trump in
twenty seventeen. You know, Trump's the only one who's taken action,
and you know, some of these preemptive strikes, like these
incredible attacks in Somalia. We had sixteen f eighteen super Horn.
It's taken off of the deck of the USS Harry
(05:36):
Truman in the Red Sea over there and going into
Somalia and taking out Al Shabab and Isis targets, the
largest navy based bombing in the history of the world,
authorized under Donald Trump to take out Shabab and Isis
guys hiding in caves and cave networks in Somalia. So
(05:57):
there's been a string of things that Trump has done
that you know, don't get much attention and he's not
getting credit for that may prevent these When people say
forever wars, they don't want to be entrenched somewhere after
fifteen or twenty years anymore, and they don't want us
lives dying or to be maimed. And unexpected circumstances like
Solomon's brutal IEDs that may have led to the deaths
(06:20):
of somewhere between six hundred and one thousand US soldiers
and iraqed these liquid metal forming copper explosive devices that
melt at like four thousand degrees. The copper, you know,
tied into these one fifty five millimeters shells that go
and they split our convoys like butter because the copper
melts and creates a spear. And I'll never forget my
(06:41):
time at Chris Levy. I used to run a veterans
group and take wounded soldiers the most grievously wounded soldiers
from Ward fifty seven in the Army Hospital Walter red
in DC took them to Congress to testify about conditions Aghanistan.
Being out hundreds of miles from the main post, they
(07:03):
couldn't trust the tribal police, tribal leaders or the local police,
and you know, these guys are stuck out there and
they were getting maimed and under attack and couldn't trust people.
So it's really important that we don't go to war
unless we really have to. And I look at as
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Afghanistan as a success in the sense that we prevented
many terrorist attacks around the world. I have family and
the Joint Terrors and test force that was taking off
the battlefield the most wanted by the FBI after nine
to eleven and transporting them to Gitmo.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And we did do a lot of good things and
we didn't lose like soldiers.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
For the last seventeen or nineteen months of the Trump presidency,
right prior to Trump there, Biden takes.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Over and just throws everything in the garbage.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So listen, I can go on forever about this stuff,
but Trump's in the driver's seat. Get in respect from NATO.
And these B two missions were so incredible, seven B
two bombers taking off and dropping these bunker busters on there.
There were Operation Midnight Hammer was the largest strike package.
(08:17):
They dropped four one hundred and twenty thousand pounds of GBUS,
not including the thirty or one thousand pound te LAMB
Tomahawk missiles on these locations, and I ran that may
have crippled the Iranian weapons nuclear weapons program at least
for now, maybe for a number of years. But the
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longest B two Spirit mission prior to that was in
two thousand and one when B two Spirit bombers from
the five h ninth bomb wing from Whiteman Air Force
Base flew three days of missions, like forty five hours
of missions.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was like a fifteen thousand mile bombing run en
route to.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Over there in Afghanistan. And I got to tell you
what these pilots are able to pull off is so
incredible and deserves credit.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
You know, the largest strikes.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Before that, or the longest distance covered by bomber strikes,
you have to go back to, like I think the
First Gulf War there was a very long mission there.
But nineteen eighty two British Vulcan bombers went from the
Ascension Islands and tacked Port Stanley in the Falklands War,
and that was about eight thousand miles and within flight refuelings,
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and that was a big accomplishment for the British, for
the Royal Air Force. But the number of things happening
under Trump is stunning. We're securing a position in the world.
I just think that we have to watch things really closely,
and I don't want things to escalate in Ukraine. We'll
(09:55):
see where Russia's are going to stand and what they're
going to do. But they said week that every step
of Russian soldier takes in Ukraine belongs to the Russians.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So I hope that doesn't want to double.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Down now because we've protracted this war out and uh,
you know, it looks like Zelenski might be coming around
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Uh, So we're going to follow all this closely. But
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I want to thank all your viewers. I enjoyed your
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week when I was in Washington, d C. That's what's
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Speaker 2 (12:07):
Your head's probably spinning already. I'm gonna make it spin
around a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So much going on, so much to talk about here,
But I have Ury Kaufman with us.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
We've had him on before.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Middle East expert, author of American Intifada in eighteen days
in October.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I want to welcome back Ury Kaufman.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
How are you, sir, great, great to be here, Thanks
so much.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yes, you gave us some great insight the last time
you were on. I know that you're a respected historian
and an author about what's happening here. I wanted to
come out of the gate and talk about this New
York City mayor's race because you know, Zooran Mandani is
a Muslim. And it's not just because he's Muslim. He's
a radical leftist, Marxist Muslim. And now you're going to
(12:52):
have two of the largest cities in the world or
in the Western hemisphere outside of Mexico City, London and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
New York led by a radical Islamist. What do you say.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I don't care that he's a Muslim, honestly, And to
be honest, I don't know much about the mayor of London,
but I could tell you.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You know, I live in three blocks from New York City.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm right in Long Island, but right on the on
the county line.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I grew up in New York.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know, I've been living around here my whole life.
So we're all trying to get take a measure of
this guy. But what they're saying is just downright terrifying.
They're saying he actually compared the October seventh Hamas attack
with the Warsaw ghetto uprising.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I mean, are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
What does he think of nine to eleven? Is that
like the Alamo? That maybe the Honaker Roof? I mean,
this guy's if that's true, he's nuts and he's just
playing crazy. He talks about globalized to fada. That's a
call to violence. His policies are bonkers. He's talking about
socialized grocery stores. He's talking about a rent in a
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city that already has.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
A housing shortage.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
There's tens of thousands of empty apartments in New.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
York because landlords can't afford.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
To renovate them to make them habitable, because they're not
allowed to charge rent.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
He says, let's double down. You can't charge what you're charging.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Now we'll all be homeless the way we're going. And
what's scariest of all is we've been through this.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
New York elected a radical liberal in the nineteen sixties
named John Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Now he was nominally a Republican because in those days,
the progressives were actually Republican, as hard as it is
to believe.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Luckily, you know, Ronald Reagan drew the drove the money
changers out of the Temple and got rid of them.
But he was a radical liberal. He did the same stuff,
and the city burned down. You know, if you can't
charge rent enough to upkeep your building, you abandoned it.
And an abandoned building is a fire waiting to happen.
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Under Deblasio, which is you know, two mayors ago, he stopped.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Giving rent in increases.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So we're already like twelve years into this where the
landlords are all starving. In the nineteen sixties, New York
found out that they thought they were cheating their landlords,
they ended up cheating themselves.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
We're gonna find out the same thing with this guy.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
John Lindsay ran in a plurality. He won in a
plurality in a three way race. Now with the four
or five way race, Zorn could win. It's a very
real possibility here. And there's like there's I think two
hundred thousand Muslim voters in the city that would add
to his base probably. And again I agree with you,
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it's not that he's a Muslim. It's his positions and
they're very scary.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
They're very scary.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And like I said to you know, I always talk
about the watermelon where Islam meets Marxism, the red in
the middle for the communists and the green on the
outside from us. My friend Rich Higgins wrote a paper
on that in the National Security Council. God Rest his soul,
and McMaster didn't like it, but Trump loved it and he.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Got fired for writing that paper.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
All right, So I wanted to talk about your You
wrote a book eighteen days in October talking about the
Young Kupole War or the was it the Young Kippot
War or seventy three?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Yeah, okay, yeah, that's so.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
In comparison to this war, which lasted about twelve days.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
In a sense, are there any comparisons?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Well, certainly, First of I got to go back to
the watermelon analogy because it's spot on, because I don't
know if you even realize this, but the Palestinians have
made watermelon one of their great symbols because if you
look at the Palestinian flag, it's got the red triangle.
So think of a slice of watermelon, and that's a
that's a big symbol for them, so it's it's pretty apt.
But anyway, I mean, the obvious way that the two
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compare is the surprise attack the Egyptians and the Syrians
attack by surprise on the Young Kipoor holiday in nineteen
seventy three caught everyone by surprise.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
This time it was on.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
October the seventh, which was another Jewish holiday called Simchatorah,
and they did the same thing this time. They really
it ended very very badly for the Arabs is now
a parent. The other comparison is, in both instances it
was a Republican president that rescued Israel, and in both instances,
I have to tell you.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I shuddered to think of what.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Would have happened if the Democrat had won the election.
George McGovern, who ran, of course against Nixon in seventy two,
was a.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Very unabashed liberal.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He was not very fond of Israel, and that was
against the stream in those days. In those days the
Democrats were very pro Israel. He stood out the other way.
And I don't tell you what Kamala was all about.
I mean, Kamala basically said during the while she was
vice president, in a speech on July twenty fifth, twenty
twenty four that if she won the election, Israel was
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going to lose that war.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
She was going to put a stop to it. So
I guess in both instances Israel got lucky that way.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, going back to the Sixth Day War and in
nineteen sixty seventy is Rael, he's knocked out like a
third of the Egyptian air force for the even took off,
and their air campaign in seventy three was like a
forty six hour battle. I was unprecedented right for its time.
I wanted to talk about George mcgovernal quick, My old
boss was a Republican leader here in New York in
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Suffolk County, and he worked alongside Nickson. He bought an
eighty one thousand vote majority to suff County, one of
the highest in the nation next to Orange County, California.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
But he always he gave me this article.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That George McGovern wrote called run your business for your
run for office, because he was a socialist, right but
in the nineties he tried to build a hotel in
Connecticut as a private builder, and he foiled because of
the bureaucracy, and he wrote an article called run your
business before you run for government or run for office.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I thought that was a lesson in life for him.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
It's true, and what he should have written was run
your business the way Ronald Reagan ran government, and then
he might have actually succeeded. But yeah, I mean that's
absolutely the case. You know, politics were very different in
those days.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Lyndon Johnson was.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Until Donald Trump, I would have said, the most friendly
president Israel ever had.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
He was outstanding, he was great.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
And in those days, you know, if you were a Democrat,
it was fine to be pro Israel. But unfortunately we're
in another time and in our time, too many Democrats
I think are just too juiced up on the issue
of race.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And that's really what this boils down. To ask yourself
a simple question.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
You know, Biden budgeted billions of dollars for the Palestinians after.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
The October seven attack. Now, he would have said it
was for the innocent civilians.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Okay, I get that, But try to imagine if the
Palestinians were white supremacists who attacked Israel, who murdered twelve
hundred people, who raped women, who said Jews aer apes
and pigs, and the opinion poll showed complete support as
it did in Gaza. Do you really think Biden would
have given billions of dollars, you know, to white supremacists
who said those things. Of course he wouldn't. But here
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we are and now people of color. So now the
Democrats aren't so sure. And this is really the tide
that we're swimming against. And you know, you look at
Azora Mundani and co opting I can't even say Jewish
history and applying it to the October seven attack.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean, it's utterly bizarre.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, I was on the South Lawn last week waiting
for Trump's arrival on Marine one as the White House
correspondent for Real America's Voice News, filling in for Brian Glenn,
who's doing a great.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Job down there.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And Trump came right off the helicopter, right into the
White House to the Oval Office for a national security meeting,
and then they put a lid on everything. But about
an hour later after we landed, they announced that they bombed,
you know, and that mission started seventeen hours earlier. But
(20:52):
Trump kept a good lid on that. But it was
such an incredible evening in there. Now you predicted that,
you know, peace through strength would work for Trump but
you also have been an Africa.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I was worried about spillover.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I was worried about attacks on Cotter and Alisata air Base,
but that really hasn't panned out yet, right.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It most definitely is not.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
And those of us who observed this a lot thought
it played out exactly the way people thought.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I mean, once in a while the analysts actually get
it right.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
This is what the ir audience did back when Trump
took out Cossum Sulimani. They fired some rockets, it was choreographed.
A few Americans suffered some traumatic brain injury on not
minimizing that. But the fact of the matter is it
was a tiny fraction of what people expected. And I
want to make one other really important point. What Donald
Trump did you know? And I predicted he was going
to do it. I was sweating, And I'll tell you why.
(21:50):
There was an Axios pole on Friday. Of course, the
American attack was Saturday night. There was an Axios pole
the day before, and it only showed sixteen percent of
Americans supporting the strike on Iran. So Donald Trump ordered
that strike frankly without the American people behind him. And I,
you know, I'm a bit of a history above. I
(22:10):
was kind of poking around trying to find an example
of a leader going to war when that war would
have only enjoyed sixteen percent.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Of the polls. I couldn't find one. But Trump did it.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
And now, of course, like eighty percent of Americans say, yeah,
it was the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It was a great decision.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
So you know, that's what leadership is all about, and
that's what leadership through strength is all about.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And we're all experiencing the benefit.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Now Iran has stood down, the nuclear program is finally
finally gone. The world is a much much safer place,
and it's a safer place for America.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
He put America first.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Incredible events, incredible times that we're living in, all right,
So we got to go. But before we do, tell
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Speaker 4 (22:56):
So American into Fada Unfortunately largely on Amazon, it's in
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Speaker 3 (23:09):
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Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thank you very much, and social media. Ten seconds, social media.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know, I'm a twentieth century guy. I apologize. I
just you know I'll get there eventually.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I still have an Olive Eddy typewriter in my bedroom.
So all right, thank you Jurie Kaufman for joining us,
and we'll have you back soon.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Thank you so much. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Welcome you too. All right, everybody, don't go anywhere. We
got great stuff ahead. Well, you got to keep their
(24:14):
head on a swivel to keep up with everything that
is going on. Trump making bold moves, showing leadership, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Get in respect at a NATO.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
While the media was trying to say, oh, you know
they're calling you daddy.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know all this what are you doing? Everybody? You know?
Meanwhile they're coughing up.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They're fast share except for Spain, but they'll talk to
them over a bolo gaspacho.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And these countries have to contribute and start defending themselves
and be ready for these things.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
In the United States could.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Save like three hundred and thirty five billion dollars a
year or so if we do that. I have our
next guest with US Major Fred Galvin. He's the author
of a Few Bad Men, the true story of the
US Marines ambushed in Afghanistan and betrayed in America.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Thank you very much for having me, David.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I know that you have your own experiences to share
with the audience, and thank you so much for your
service your US Marine Corps retired. Correct, that's correct, And
you know Trump under a lot of pressure. It's got
to be extraordinary, but he plans on limiting sending classified
(25:36):
information to Congress after this intel assessment on Iran damage
was leaked? Is this unprecedented? And tell us about your
book and how it compares to your experiences.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Absolutely, well, this is exactly where the director, the Director
of National Intelligence needs to provide who has a requirement
to know this information. So just because someone has a
top secret clearance as I did in the Marines and
as an intelligence official afterwards after retiring from the Marine Corps,
you may have a top secret security clearance, you may
(26:13):
have access to special access programs, but if you do
not have the need to know specific programs, you don't
have the right to know that. And as you mentioned,
there was one gentleman who was in the Special Operations
Task Force that I was a commander of. He had
He didn't spill the information, he didn't share the information
(26:34):
or leak it, but he had classified information on a
government unclassified computer. Now that computer was not plugged in
any type of Internet source where it was shared. But
he created briefs and he was The bottom line is
he built briefs on a classified computer for his convenience
(26:56):
because it was faster for them to do that on
an unclassified computer and put a thumb drive in and
put it into a and it was just big no, no,
big no no. So everyone who signs who has a
classified clearance, whether it's secret or top secret or beyond that.
With polygraph and special access programs. You signed documents that
(27:18):
say it's critical to grave if you ever divulge any
of this information, which is different than mishandling it, you
can you know, oops, I oh, I forgot, you know,
and not be wittingly. You know, those are still punishable.
And in this gentleman case, in the task force that
(27:38):
I commanded, he was separated from the United States Marine
Corps and he was an officer. So this, this does happen,
but it seems strange that people who are sharing information
are spilling it intentionally in the intelligence community and with
members of Congress, they're not held account. This is what
we need to correct.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, and in such a politically charged environment, in your situation,
you commanded a special operations task force in combat, right,
and you were ambushed by the Tally ban and you
would drag through the mud under law fair and other
types of things.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
How does that relate to classified information?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Well, very similar. And I'm going to add a different.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Subject, but what the Secretary of Defense and the President
were discussing last night, where you have highly trained, skilled warriors,
in our case special operators fighting on the ground against
an enemy, and in this case, what occurred this last
week or weekend. These were the most highly trained aviators
doing a you know, a day and a half long
(28:44):
mission in the air, precise coordinators dropping precision guiding munitions
on target. And now you have people downplaying American citizens.
You have people doing that on social media, you have
members of Congress, you have members of media, and then
some somebody says they're in the intelligence community and they're
(29:04):
spilling information that the public doesn't have a right to
know that. So just like this administration, they have a
right to go out and track down who had access
to that information, where that was shared, put subpoenas on
people who in the media who said that, Okay, this
person gave this to me, you cannot. I mean that
is national security information that is not sharable with people
(29:29):
without that clearance, and definitely not in the media. But
this did, this type of lawfare did happen to us.
We were going after the n Emmy. We were shot at,
blown up, shot out on multiple sides, sniper fire, trapped
in this kill zone. We killed the enemy at nine
o'clock in the morning, point blank, and then this started,
you know, within twenty minutes. This was out on the
(29:50):
BBC first and then the New York Times Washington Post
for twelve years we got assassinated.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Even after we went.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Through the longest courtroom trial where we were exonerated. There
are some people who wanted to lay the blame on,
particularly myself and the unit that I commanded, so they
would do these dry buys in the media. So even
I served for seven more years and even after the
day I retired, they hit me that day and several
other times that year, and it continued on and it's
(30:19):
very damaging, like the President's experiencing with this professional destruction.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But you turned it the other way and you were
saying that you know, because you're targeted like Trump, you
never backed down. Tell us about that refusal to fail
and fighting back.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yes, So some people who have voted for people that
they respect, and in my case, these are military officers,
very senior general officers who in America we have a
lot of patriotism, but it's just like we have in
the military as trust but verify if you do something
where you're dragging your own members of the Marine Corps,
(31:00):
the frontline foot soldiers, and you're destroying them, you need
to be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That that needs to be exposed.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
So that's that's what took me eleven years to get
this information declassified, which what I just described to you, David,
that's a garden variety gun battle. This is not Jason
Bourne's knock list or the locations of the submarines at sea.
This is you know, day one tactics of Taliban attacking marines.
(31:27):
So there was no need to have this procedure that
they use in the courtroom where for three and a
half weeks longest courtroom trial Marine Corps history, they would
move the media out of the court. Media was allowed
in there, but every time there was a defense witness
with exculptory information which they knew, the media would get
escorted out. So you got one side of the media.
So we were exonered, but the label in the press.
(31:51):
That continued for twelve years until January two, twenty nineteen,
the day after General Maddis was fired by President Trump
as his secretary of Defense. Well six months actually seven
months prior to that. In May twenty eighteen, a board
convened in the Pentagon and they fully exonerated us. But
they sat on their hands because not only was General
(32:11):
Madison Secretary of Defense in twenty eighteen. But he was
a convening authority in our case in two thousand and seven,
so he was the puppeteer. He was the geppetto pulling
all this strings, and he did not want.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
But we were exonerated.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Thank god for this female civilian general counsel with the
Department of the Navy. She bottom lined this twelve page
report that named names, and that was what fully exonerate
is under Donald Trump's watch.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
In about thirty seconds, tell our viewers where they can
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Marines ambush in Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And betrayed in America. A story of real life.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Portrayal, corruption and redemption.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Major Fred Galvin.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yes, David, this has been sold out many times nationwide,
so you can get her on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
It's available on audible, hardback.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Kindle, and you can go to my website commandoshow dot
com and find out more information about a few bad men.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
All right, I'm very grateful I know you far away
that you came and joined us today, and I'd love
to have you back and talk some more.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Thank you again, absolutely, thank you, David.
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Maria. How are you.
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Speaker 1 (36:14):
Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Breaking Point, Unreal America's Voice News.
I'll tell you this last couple of weeks has been
some journey between all the things covering the Ice protest,
the New York City Bernie Carrick's funeral, the two hundred
and fiftieth Army Parade, filling in for Brian Glenn as
a White House correspondent while the bombing was going on
(36:34):
with Iran. Really just an incredible time to live.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
And I had some hope for Washington, DC when I
was there.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I have a little bit of hope for New York
City until the results of the primaries. And here to
discuss that for the mayoral race is author Donald Wilkie.
He's the author of Freedom Revealed, a simple, elegant system.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Welcome to the show, Thanks for having me pleasure to
be here.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, it's great to have you.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
And you know, I could see the campaign slogan now
don't mess with the zo ran right in New York City, Mom,
Donnie basically a radical Marxist, the watermelon where Islam meets
the Marxist culture. Green on the outside for Islam, red
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in the middle for socialism, Marxism and communism.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
What do you say, well, socialism doesn't work. But the
problem is most people never ask the question why doesn't
it work? And that's what I answer in my book.
And the real simple answer, if you will allow me, sure,
is that everybody thinks socialism is an economic system, but
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in reality, it's a government system. And what it is
is the government distorting the marketplace.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
And the reason the marketplace and.
Speaker 8 (38:02):
Government are different is because government is singular, so there's
no competition. The marketplace has a lot of competition. One's
a competitive system, one's a non competitive system, and that
makes all the difference.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Right, So we have this incredible mayor's race going on.
I think part of the reason why I'm Donnie won
the primary was a protest vote against Cuomo in a way.
And you know, I would take Curtis over anybody. I
would even take Adams over anybody besides Curtis, because he's
kind of getting a message.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
He got away with murder, maybe with.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
You know, his corrupt police commissioner under him, the Turkish deal.
Trump not pursuing you know, the indictments and all that
other stuff. So but the new police commission is doing
a better job in New York City.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Jessica tish Now.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Shootings and murders down, Rape still let twenty two percent,
felony assaults still at twenty five your highs. The Blasio
numbers misdemeanor assaults up thirty something thousand. New York has
assaulted in the streets. But the business climate in New
York City is awful. There's no buzz anymore. Curtis took
a picture last year of Third Avenue at ten in
the morning. There's no traffic, you know, there's not really
(39:17):
a lot going on. Congestion pricings killed it the economy.
COVID forty percent of the office building is still empty,
so or only forty percent of the building still occupied
for office spase since COVID tell us what is the
damage that having a socialist as a mayor is going
to do to New York If that happens.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Well, he's just going to distort the marketplace further.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
The only way you eliminate waste is through competition, and
in socialism there is no competition. The way I always
win the socialist argument as I ask a socialist how
do you eliminate waste? And they never have an answer.
So you have a socialist system. You let the government
run grocery stores he's talking about, and you're just going.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
To compound it.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Why did they have to wait in the Soviet Union
for hours at a time to get a chunk of meat,
hair sticking out of it?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
You know, I saw the bread lines. I saw the
breadlines in Moscow in eighty six. I saw them.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
Well, that's how it works. I mean you have waste.
Speaker 8 (40:18):
Now, what happens in the private sector when you have competition, Hey,
people won't go there, and what happens to your company?
You go out of business. Well, what happens to government
if nothing works?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Right?
Speaker 5 (40:29):
They stay there and they can they double down on
what they're doing. So that's the whole problem.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
So, Ma'mdonnie's economic platform has some crazy things and it
can you go over some of his things like rent
stabilization and getting rid of like privately owned convenience stores.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
What's this guy doing?
Speaker 8 (40:48):
Well, I just heard a little bit about his marketplace,
I mean grocery store proposition. And the buildings aren't going
to pay rent, they're not going to pay taxes, So
that's going to cut your costs and et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. We're not going to make a profit, so
that's going to cut your costs. What he never says,
what they never talk about, is the waste that government
(41:10):
has to create. A non competitive system has to create waste.
You can't eliminate it, and that's always way worse than
any savings you might talk about. And again, anytime you
look at a socialist system, they're always dirt poor and
nobody understands why. But it's just simply a lack of competition.
(41:32):
They're not a marketplace system, they're a government system.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
You know, New York City might be one of the
safest large cities in the country per capita, but I
will tell you that it's probably the filthiest and the rodents,
the leaks, the mold right, the heating breakdowns. These landlords,
(41:59):
you know, they can't survive if the government wants to
take their property or give them, you know, peanuts in
New York City's used, the free market, high rents, Fifth Avenue, Downtown,
all that stuff. We're looking at the middle class being
wiped out.
Speaker 5 (42:16):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (42:17):
Now I should tell you that I'm from Detroit, and
Detroit went broke, as you know, and.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
It saw everything you're talking about. Now. A lot sooner
than New York has.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
And that's exactly what happened to Detroit, the entire industrial base.
Detroit was the greatest industrial city in the country in
the fifties sixties, and by nineteen eighty, the entire industrial
base had left it. There was nothing left. There is
no tax revenue for the government. And today in Detroit,
believe it or not, there's vast open areas, acres and
(42:54):
acres open field where they've just torn everything down. Now,
we were never as big New York, and that's a difference,
but there was no law. Yeah, he reigned in Detroit,
and it looks like it's coming to New York.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I worked alongside the Juliani administration representing private developers, and
I am a first hand witness and a participant to
Giuliani New York City Housing Partnership taking the Jack Kemp
enterprise zones, giving people maybe a grant through like the
State Sunny May Lending program, which was a great program
first time buyers. It would take some money off the
(43:32):
sale price of a new home. They would give the
land to the builders if it was city owned or
tax condemned or in rem lots, and they were able
to build these three story town homes. You know that
would go for not a lot of money, But you
gave title to people. They cleaned up the streets, they
kicked out the drug dealers. I watched the firsthand at
Bushwick and the Bronx. That's why we had Williamsburg today
(43:53):
and the Park's Slope revival and all that other stuff.
But his anchor revitalization program, bringing back and attracting retail
businesses is guaranteeing with federal seed money, guarantees for Bilders
to take risks in bad areas Brooklyn Avenue, Brooklyn, Coney Island,
Mermaid Avenue, Harlem, one twenty fifth Street, one sixteenth in Lenox.
Who is going to do that for New York City?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
But you made a great point. Unless a person has
skin in the game, what do they care?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, you know, they.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Have to have an investment.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
And if they don't have an investment, they got nothing
to lose. So that is another problem with socialism. You
don't have people with an investment, right, And Giuliani did
a terrific job in New York, almost.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
A miracle job, but it was predictable.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
You have to let the marketplace work and prosperity is
created when waste is eliminated.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
From the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
It's quite simple, right, So, Okay, we have this really
competitive mayoral race, and if there's a four or five
waist split, Curtis I only got twenty eight percent last
general election.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
He only needs thirty to.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Thirty five percent to win in a plurality like John
Lindsay did in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
He won in a three way race.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
If Cuomo jumps back in and runs and mem Donnie
is the Democratic candidate, and then you have working families running,
this could be and then you might have Adam staying
in as independent, could be a path for Curtis Lee
or what do you say?
Speaker 8 (45:26):
It'd be very nice. I mean, I like Curtis. I
like the things he's done. What I don't know is
the money behind Mondanmi. He's obviously well finded. Somebody is
propping him up. I don't know how deep the pockets are,
And that's the question I think we should know.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, well, I guess it's also a question of where
will Bloomberg's money go. You know, he gave it to Cuomo,
and Cuomo could stay in.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
He's not out. You know, but I don't know. The
whole thing's kind of a disaster. Here. Tell us about
your book.
Speaker 8 (45:59):
Well, well, it's the first time freedom has been looked
at as a mechanical system as opposed to a philosophy.
And I'll get to the heart of it. I've talked
about it basically a little bit already. But I looked
at nature and I asked myself, how does nature work?
And one of the statements all environmentalists have is there's
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no waste in nature. Well, the question is what drives
waste out of nature? And the obvious answer is competition.
Competition eliminates waste. So the market, the natural world is
extremely competitive. And the other part of the foundation of
nature is everything in nature moves to ease. That's why
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we have signs at national parks that say do not
feed the animals. So you take three simple concepts and
apply them to everything, and they explain everything, how prosperity
is created, why welfare never works, why socialism never works.
And it's quite astounding when you take just these three
(47:03):
simple concepts, almost like the three basic colors, and put
them together in different ways and you can predict outcomes.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Sure, tell our viewers Where can they get your book?
And where can they follow you?
Speaker 5 (47:15):
Sub Stack you can follow me there.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
I've got videos on YouTube too, Freedom revealed dot net
and of course Amazon, the big giant in the in
the house.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, all right, everybody.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Donald Wilkie, author of Freedom revealed the Simple Elegant System,
Thank you so much for joining us on everybody. Thank
you for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News.
I'm sure more excitement coming this week. Well, we'll see
you next time.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
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