November 15, 2025 • 48 mins
SEGMENT A: TRUMP, THE CHURCH, AND THE FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE OF MAGA
SEGMENT B: ECONOMIC REALITY, CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW, AND THE BATTLE FOR AMERICA’S NEXT GENERATION
SEGMENT C: TRUMP’S RETURN, NEWSOM’S CRACKDOWN, AND THE FIGHT TO AWAKEN CALIFORNIA’S CHURCH
SEGMENT D: CALIFORNIA CRIME CRISIS, HOMELESS REVOLUTION, AND A FAITH-BASED FIGHT FOR THE STATE’S FUTURE
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So many of you are already familiar with Steve Days,
the Steve Days Show on Blaze Media as someone who.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Begins school in sports radio WA show.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
In the morning Iowa, but then pivot into political talk
for obvious reasons. He's got a really, i'd say, a
jeweler's eye, like Blake William Buckley had a book was
the Jeweler's Eye. He's got a jeweler's eye for speaking
critically to cultural issues politics and speaks with a faith
based advocacy. But it's kind of curious. He's the best
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selling author Rules for Patriots in twenty fourteen and The
Liberal War on Transparency in twenty eighteen. But what's for
those of you that are seven Mountain officionados. He also
produced the movie Nefarious, which my daughter was involved with
promoting in twenty twenty three, and that explores the demonic influence,
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the demonic influence through a Christian lens, but you could
see it virtually in a whole lot of area other
than just Hollywood right now. So I want to welcome
Steve Days. Welcome to the show. I got to them.
I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Good to see you, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I know what's percolating on the top of your list.
You're doing Blaze reporting, you're covering what are you? Are
you covering the shutdown? Are you covering the election result?
To what's your audience resonating with?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I think he answered all those questions is yes. And
you know, Lance, I think that there have been a
series of divine and providential clarifications over the last five years,
and I and maybe even over the last ten years.
And I think I think a lot of God's people
have prayed and wondered, how much longer are we going
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to let this continue to suffer, to slouch, to gomorra,
to quote the late great Robert Bork. And I think
over the last ten years you have seen I think
the Lord Act. And I think that there's been a
series of events. I think Donald Trump is the most
clarifying force in American history. I've just never seen one
person provoke that. It provokes so many people to tell
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us who they really are, uh than Donald Trump. And
I just I don't see how that's a natural explanation
for that. I think that is a supernatural phenomenon. And
then I think covid UH and especially what it did
to the Church uh, and then accompanied by the false
church that the spear of the age church uh, exemplified
by the uh the know the Summer of Floyd that
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exact same year. And then I think the aftermath of
my buddy Charlie Kirk's martyring. And I think in all
these events, you're you're seeing people kind of reveal themselves,
for better or for worse, who they really are. And
I think you're watching the Master Gardner kind of prune
his tree, so to speak. And I think, I think
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we've got to trim some fat, you know, And I
think the church has to get smaller before it gets better.
We've had an entire generation of Hawaiian shirt sweater vest uh,
you know, skinny Jean. Christianity and discipleship was not taken seriously.
And I think that the Lord is reading his church
for war, and I think, you know, there's got to
be some subtraction before there's multiplication.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And I think we're watching all of that now.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And when I when I look at at the right,
when I look at our side, I think there is
a choice, a generational choice before us.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Lance.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
If you look at what's happened in Western Europe after
the Church basically abrogated from the public square a generation ago.
And the right now in Western Europe is very reactionary,
almost like a self retardation of reactionary ism, to the
point that it can't get elected anywhere. The so called
righty parties are all just functions of a unibrow. There's
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no agency. They can't vote themselves out of, out of,
out of the mess that they're in. And I think
this is the choice before our side right now, and
that is are we gonna Are we going to see
Charlie Kirk revival or reactionary retardation where we just make
ourselves so reactionary to abs everything that we can't win
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elections on any level whatsoever. We can't win any kind
of critical mass of normy voters. We become an epistemological
black hole where well, I mean, I've got the real
conspiracy of the conspiracy of the conspiracy of the conspiracy.
And I say this as someone that you know, I
question the narratives a lot. I wrote a number one
best selling book questioning the entire scandemic narrative. But I
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think it's important for God's people lands to remember this
Christianity is not the endless asking of questions. It is
the ceaseless seeking of answers. We are heading into Christmas season,
where the King of the universe so wanted to be known,
he left heaven and put himself in the most vulnerable
form he could, as a human being. The truth asks
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seek not the truth wants to be known. The heavens
declare the glory of God. God came to us in
the form of a human being. He was with us, Emmanuel,
all right. He put his spirit now in us, all right,
the hope of glory Christ in us. And I think
this is the choice we now have, which is it's
not about questioning everything as much as it is finding answers.
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Jesus said to Pilot, for this reason, I came into
the world to testify to the truth.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And so are we going to seek truth?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Are we going to take our skepticism and let it
fund and and and and you know, sort of inspire
the biggest zeal for truth we've seen in a generation,
or we're going to let it retard us. So we
just sit around here and just say things that are
the absolute dumbest thing, so easily deconstructed all the time.
Because to have found the truth means you've somehow become
some kind of neocon or sellout, and I think that's
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the choice before us.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And I think it's no. You know, Charlie was the
best of us.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I think I really, I mean, he really was apostolic
in his giftedness. And I think people are now seeing
in the last few weeks how much of this reactionary
retardation he was actually holding back. And I don't think
it's any it's any coincidence that has just surged to
the forefront in the last in the two months since
his murder.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
So you got that. Listen, man, You're like a fire hose.
I love. I mean several notes that why we were talking.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So I'm going to go back to earlier comments you
made that I didn't want to interrupt you to say,
but I'm thinking going back. But you ended on Charlie.
So let me let me start with that I said
when he died, I said, Ben Shapiro made the comedy.
He said, if you don't understand that Charlie was a
coalition builder, that that was the art form that that
that Ben Shapiro saw. Then I thought about it, Well,
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he could hit you know, David Rubin and he has
the gay conservative contingency over here, and then he's got
the uh, you know, the Maha movement people over here
and the independence over there. And then you were talking
about the you'll have to explain this later.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
What a normy voter is. Some of my people don't
know that.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But anyway, he could take this broad constellation of relationships
and and he did not have Candice Owens at any
of the amer fests, and he didn't have her on
his radio show, but he kept he kept enough of
a text thread with everybody so that everybody knew he
loved them and he supported them, but he evaluated whether
or not they were healthy and useful to the coalition
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he was building. And you were invited or invited out
to speak based on that. But what I noticed is
the moment that he died. My mind went to the
Book of Acts where Paul was in Ephesus, and he said,
I know that after my departure shall fierce wolves break
in among you, and even from among your own selves,
shall menorize speaking perverse things in order to draw away
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the disciples after themselves. That word in Greek for speaking
to perverse things means focusing on some nuance of theology
or doctrine that will distinguish yourself from each other, to
fragment an audience to follow you. You couldn't describe more
perfectly what happened in the aftermath. Spiritually, what happened after
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Charlie's assassination was all guns should have shifted over on the.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Madness on the left.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That manifests itself in all of the extremism of the violence,
from Antifa to the trans in doctor to the university
cauldron of indoctrination. In other words, the guns were set there.
And what happens like almost in the absence of Charlie
to control the fire, everybody trained their guns on each
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other and started a circular firing squad. And so you've
got Candace. I'll dismiss from the moment because I got to.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Deal with her. She's talking about me, So she's a
separate subject.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But Tucker and Bannon and Levin and Shapiro, all of
these guys fighting with each other. And by the way,
anti Semitism is at the root of it, the issue
of Israel.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
If you could have asked.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
An evangelical for a more poignant confirmation where in the
last days, let Israel be the subject that divides a
move of God in the United States, they after they
fight a survival campaign for four years. So I look
at this and I go, that's demonic. But if we
don't settle this, Steve, I don't know who's got the
voice of the adult in the room. Maybe Trump has
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to have a private phone call. If we don't sort
this out fast. The movement that was begun with Maga
with Trump, that Charlie helped to coalition together will not
be together form mid terms. And the other point I
was going to make is I was laughing because you
said Donald Trump is that force of nature, like Haley's
comment that comes by ever so often. The problem with
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him is he is the singular factor that gets the
vote out. On the left, they'll be mobilized by their
hatred of Trump. But on the right, if he's not
on the ticket, he's not mobilizing. And the aha that
I got after the election results, and I didn't have
it the night, you know, like we get pulled on
TV to comment on stuff, and I didn't process it
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all that night because the gap was so big in
the turnout that it wasn't until the next day that
I said. What actually happened is that the Libertarian, the
Hispanic mail, the African American man, all the all those
people that made up that movement for Trump, including Mah
and the independ they weren't voting for Republicans.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
This is a serious problem in midterms. Am I right?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
One hundred percent? You are correct?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
And it's almost like the enemy knew exactly where to
hit us with Charlie's murder. And so it's good to
take a consortion of people that are going to be
that are going to have to now step into that
void with various sectors of skill and expertise to hold
it together. I will tell you who I believe is
a very key person in all of this, and that
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is Vice President JD.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Vance.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And the reason why is number one, It's obvious he's
the vice president as the crown Prince of Maga.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It is obvious that that. I mean, I just heard this.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'll say this publicly now, I just heard this from
Charlie privately, right to my face, all right, that people
like him and Don Junior and Tucker lobbied the President
to make him the VP with the expressed intent of
leaving an heir apparent and I had a conversation a
few months ago with Nut Gingrich, and he said that
the greatest political regret of his career on the right
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is that Ronald Reagan did not make Jack Kemp his
nominee for VP of nineteen eighty but tried a unity
ticket with the Bushes instead, and that left Reagan without
an ideological air. And so the minute that his time
was done, he stepped aside and based in the mainstream
Republican party of the past, took right back over. And
so he was hopeful that JD. Vance would be the
correction of that mistake. I think that Vance, as a millennial,
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understands the lament of our young men. Our young men,
particularly our young white men, frankly, have a lot to
be justifiably complaining about, given the mess in their laps.
And I say this, I've got a young man in
my home, and in the process of launching my eighteen
year old son out into the world.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He's learning right.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Now that he's going to have to make thirty thirty
five thousand dollars a year right out of high school
in Des Moines, Iowa to get a decent apartment in
a car. He's not embarrassed to pick a girl up
in for a date.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And no other generation has faced anything like that since
the Industrial Revolution. And so we've got to figure out
who can message that anger and then like Charlie could,
and then push it into a constructive venue.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Than Steve, I got to stop you and how this works.
So I got to do a quick station brig for
real America's voice.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
We'll be right back. All right, we are back now.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You said something right before the break about your son
thirty five thousand dollars has to come in and offer
him to have a decent car to pick up a
girl for a date, and then have an apartment. And yeah,
and Charlie, you know Charlie's passion. It was so interesting
because he had his finger on the pulse of the
millennial vote. If you expect to get that thirty year
old and younger vote, that turning points going after, you've
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got to get them affordable housing. The big issue for
them is economics. And I'd say that he was so
clear on that, and it's sad because he had the
ear of Donald Trump and he could say, you're never
gonna We're never gonna win an election. If we don't
convince to them that our policies are affecting them. This
isn't about the border now, this isn't about pharmaceuticals, this
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isn't about entitlements. This is about the ability of young
people to have confidence in the American system to be
able to provide for them. Or you're really subject to
the anarchy of what's going on with the left now,
because their appeal is the systems rigged. And this is
the other narrative that kind of intrigued me that Mondamie
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in New York is taking the Bernie Sanders and AOC line,
which I'm hearing from some essayists. It's similar to Trump's
appeal in that they're speaking to the frustrations of the
person out there that feels like they're not winning like
someone else is and this system is somehow rigged against them.
And Trump kind of comes along and says it is rigged,
but I'm going to fix it. And then the socialist
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comes along and says it's rigged, and I'm on your side.
I need your help. We better sort this thing out,
don't you think. And talk to me about where are
the elections for midterms? We should be having on our radar, we.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Have to understand moving forward.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Lance in New York City is I think the final
confirmation of this that elections now are rival missionary expeditions.
They're not just about turning out voters. You have to
speak to the soul. These economic issues speak to the soul.
We're talking about not top marginal tax rates and how
to spur on a new entrepreneurial class. We're talking about
real quality life stuff. Can I actually find a girl
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and have a family and experience the American dream at
a basic one oh one level? And if I can't,
then why in the world would I go ahead and
take on all these other social stigmas like DEI and
abortion and rot gut to TRAINESM and everything else in
the schools. And so that energy, all that male masculine
energy in our young men, has to go somewhere, and
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it will go someone somewhere, either constructively or destructively. And
when you skip a generation in the pulpit of men
collectively and a generation of fathers in the home collectively,
figuratively or little, there's a lot of young men that
don't understand meekness, power, under control. What that stuff means.
We need to earnestly disciple them. Charlie understood that we
need to follow that example. And that's why I think
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Frankly Vance is such a key figure in this because
I think he is the one person that has any
remote shot of slipping into some of those vacated.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Shoes of Charlie's.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
When you look at the elections coming up in midterms,
we need candidates that are able to speak to the soul,
that understand these are quality of life issues. So if
I can be a little selfish, I look at my
own home state of Iowa governor candidate that I'm supporting
at Adam Stein, and Adam talks about wanting to be
the most pro trade, skill manufacturing governor in America. But
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I love the way that he talks about it. It's
not just hey, these are real wages, but it's just
quality of life stuff. Hey, do I have an option
other than I leave high school and I go get
seven figures of loan debt and play Russian Roulette with
my soul? Am I going to walk out of there
as a gay, race, communist or not?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Right? But is there a few at your path beyond that?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
And I look at how Adam speaks to that former
Assemblies of God minister. He was the CEO of our state.
So he's run the state on a government level. He
understands where all the bodies are buried. He speaks to
these kinds of issues that are really at the heart
of what kind of country and way of life are
we going to have?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And we need candidates that are able to do that.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
All right, So he's in Iowa, right.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Correct, Adam Stein.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
So by the way, Iowa. So the Iowa caucus. That's
going to be a big deal. I guess to the
presidential election and he's up during the midterms. That's a
midterm vote we're doing.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yep, that's next year. We have a vacated seat for governor.
And here's the thing, and your audience is going to
find this fascinating. So our state's become one of the
reddest in the Union's redist in the Union. We have
had one Democrat able to win statewide. His name is
Rob Sand He's now running for governor. He won his
state auditor. He bought that seat with money he married into.
He's now running for governor. And if you look at
Rob Sand's socials lance, this is not a guy that
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is running away from faith. He's trying to co opt it.
I mean Rob sand is going to literally stand up
there and say Jesus was a socialist, and he's going
to say this to the people of Iowa in a debate.
And if we just send up there's some kind of
technocratic Republican who just is nothing but a construct of
consultant cliches, he's going to walk out of there looking
like a heretic.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
In front of swing voters or normy voters.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
We need somebody who can correct, you know, like you frankly,
like Christ, you know, saying to the enemy, correcting him
when he takes scriptures out of context. Rob sand is
taking the scriptures out of context in his post on
social media on a regular basis. He is trying to
coerce and are He's trying to co opt our own
language and use it against us. It is so important
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that we now nominate candidates moving forward who have the
right worldview and the ability to wield it. When you
talk about Charlie's ability to build that coalition, it was
an offshoot lance of his worldview. He understod common grace,
natural law, He understood all these.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Things and he was able to apply it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, I'm you know, as I said earlier before we
did the show, I have to listen to Can. This
has been targeting me yesterday. And part of her complaint
is the turning point, that Charlie became too evangelical and
that it.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Was too Mormon. It was too moremon the other day,
it's too evangelical.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Now, yeah, it's too evangelical. Yeah, and so he was
too much and it wasn't like this early on. I mean,
turning point wasn't always about this. I mean, the guy
did start when he was eighteen. He's allowed to develop
a worldview like Lincoln by the time he's thirty one.
But I think what surprises me is that there would
be an audience that would think that Christianity is just
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is only a religious thing that happens on Sunday. It
actually is a worldview for prioritizing a moral universe where
you're accountable to God and having a family and pro
creating and loving one another and then having meaningful work.
That there's an order, there's kind of like a primacy
in the universe of what's important.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yes, and Christians.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
What I want to break through and use this opportunity
with Candae to smash and start to get get across
more powerfully. Is that this Christian nationalism is like nobody
can define what it is. It was a label basically
to try to make people sound like extremist, racist or something,
but actually it was white Christian nationalism until David Harrison
a bunch of my black megabuddies started embarrassing them, saying,
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I guess I'm a white Christian nationalist, but Christianity ought
to be in the public. I think what Charlie did
that JD Vans confess. He said I wasn't talking about
Jesus up until two weeks ago. I'm glad to see
that he has said it because everybody else is evidently
that the Christian worldview is something which applies to the
health of society.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Am I right in that?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Unfortunately we have spent a generation collectively in the church
building brands and not the kingdom.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
We have we have you know, skinny.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Jeans, sweater vests, Hawaiian shirts, nicer in God, perpetually furrowed
brows when we're not being nicer than God, saying things like, well,
you know, I've got a very diverse, you know congregation
here that may not feel the same way about the issues.
Why would you have a diverse congregation of people who
don't believe in God's word? Why would that go unaddressed
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in any kind of church whatsoever? I mean, I mean,
I just that's not a church. That's a social club
with Bible versus out of context. And again I can
just say this, having had these conversations with Charlie privately
on multiple occasions. This is one of the key drivers
of everything he did. He was trying to build an
apostolic ministry and parachurch organization to take the place of
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much of the church which had vacated the public square,
particularly where men and young men were concerned for the
last generation. And that is a space now that the
rest of us have left to pick up the mic
and follow in his footsteps and try to fill. If
we win the men, will win the families. If you
win the families, you'll win over a civilization. What will
win them exactly the message, which is the application of
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the Word of God that you just articulated a moment ago.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
All right, So when you look at the church's response,
I think you said it was because I want to
lose you in just a moment you said it was
going to be like COVID and the George Floyd riots
and uh and then Charlie in the aftermath. But what
was it that you saw during COVID and the George
Floyd riots that you that that made you say that
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these were like almost like spiritually significant.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
What did you call it? You know, points of inflection
in the.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Formating cosmic clarifiers, cosmic clarifier of what.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Ultimately what field God is at working.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And one of the things you see throughout history, nothing
good comes from Nazareth. Well, who would want fishermen for
you know, for apostles the Hebrew of Hebrews, former Christian
persecutor now becomes a Christian. But not just any Christian.
He is now sent to a van the very gentiles
that he viewed himself as better than. You see this
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all throughout the Kingdom of God that he uses, the
the you know, the the he uses the foolish things
of this world that he is contrary to the world system.
Christianity is a paradox in and of itself, Die to live,
suffer to gain, you know, I mean, no other system
you know advocates these things like the Kingdom of God does.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And I mean, I just look at myself, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I'm a former mailroom clerk, porn addict, and now I've
got one of the largest Christian media platforms in the
United States of America.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I couldn't even tell you how it happened.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
It just kind of happened, almost against my will, if
I'm being honest with you. All right, So this is
not my life planned from twenty years ago how it
all turned out, all right, But this is how you
can tell when God is at work.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And the fact that the He usually and here's the
other thing to always watch.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
God always goes around the traditional religious structure that failed
the previous generation. Always goes around it every single time.
And you're watching that. Now you're watching I've said to
my buddy Lucas Miles over it a TPUSA faith. Congratulations, brother,
you're now head of the largest parachurch organization in the
entire history of Christendom.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
All right.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Lucas is from a modest sized church in South Bend, Indiana,
and he's only been on the job for a couple
of years. All right, But if you've been if you
spent ten minutes with Lucas, you'd see I guess guy's
heart has sold out to the gospel that is exact,
and that's why Charlie picked him, and that's exactly why
God picked him. And you can see every single time
God shames the structure that failed his people and goes
around the religious structure that failed the previous generation. That
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happens every single time. That rhythm is in the scriptures
repeatedly old in New Testament and throughout church history as well.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You know what simplified it for me was because I'm
a Seven Mountain guy. That's what I'm accused of anyway,
And I look at those mountains and I see this.
I saw Charlie was the guy who was representing the church.
But in order to get the family mountain, he went
into the education mountain to go talk about Christian worldview
to the students, and then he utilized that in order
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to get out the under thirty vote for political purposes
and fed his visibility in his organization by capitalizing on media,
training it into an artistic art form, taking debates and
having billions of views on YouTube off his debates, and
funded it off of business people that I know that
underwrote the experts. All seven mountains he threatens. That's why
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when you said apostolic, I said, he's so totally right.
He went outside the church representing the church. And now, truly,
if we're going to do what we're called to do,
we have to activate the parachurch in every one of
those spheres to pick up the fallen baton. I'm out
of time, Steve. We're gonna have to have you back again.
We're just getting started God. But how do people follow you?
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By the way, how do they get in.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Touch with you?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Easiest thing?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Just follow me on Twitter at Steve Day's show or X.
I'm sorry now I can't get used to that at
Steve days show on X.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well that's right, Well you feel sorry for me. Most
of my followers are still on Facebook. That tells you
about my aging demographic. All right, listen, we're doing all
all things politically. You think that was interesting, Wait till
you talk to uh cha ah. The guy that I
got coming up next is actually taken on that wicked
governor's seat out in California. And who knows, maybe it's
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time that we saw God move in California. You're gonna
not want to miss this. We'll be right back. Well,
a year ago, we had that moment when huh boy,
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what a relief that was. The Trump train pulled into
the station and history was being made right in front
of our eyes. And after all the prayer, and I
remember watching Charlie Kirk crying tears of relief because he knew,
as some other of us did, that we're on lists.
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We you know, by the Operation Artic Frost, we were
on lists of government attacks. They would come after us
with IRS documents and you know, because we talk politics,
but we're also preachers, and they would.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Have hit us.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
We were relieved and we were delighted that God moved.
Now we've got a new political season. Looks like the
Left is pushing back with a vengeance, got coiled spring
all that great awakening and move of God we talk
about in America. Let's face it, it may be a
move happening, but it's not resulting in a penetration in
the electoral realm. And brothers and sisters, if we don't
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guard the government gate, all the gains will be short lived.
So my guest right now is someone I've known for
years and I've been friends with. So when he said
that God was calling him to run for governor in California. Well,
I've said, I know what a battle that's going to be. However,
I want to do everything I can to introduce my
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audience to him. He's he could be called doctor Cheyon,
he's got an earned doctorate, could be called Pastor chay On.
He has built a strong church and a network of churches,
but he's most effectually known as Papa chay because he's
like a dad to a whole lot of Christians.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Welcome back on the show. Actually, because you and I
do flash right now.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I think I was having me What an honor, what
a blessing to be with you. It's amazing how this
started with me having a dream about you, and then
I called you, and then I also remembered you said
I want you on my show as we're running, and
so yeah, you can led to another and here we are,
well here, here we are.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So but you you know you're not a stranger to
the governor's mansion. The governor tried to lock you up.
And I want everyone to hear the story because it's like,
we forget this governor Newsom, who's gonna want to be president.
This guy was shutting down churches, threatening them with finds
if they went to church during his reign, the freedom
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of a tyranny over there, and then the pastors themselves
would be sent to jail.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah. Absolutely, and then we see how he just discriminated
against the church. He said, abortion clinics are essential, they're open,
Marijuana dispensaries are essential, they're open. A strip club in
San Diego was essential for the armed forces, and he
said that they're essential, but that the churches were not.
And I saw that. And then when the George Floyd
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rights took place, he does a press conference and there
was no social disc no one's wearing a mask. They
destroyed fear fact she talked about racism, was antisemitic, and
yet he commends them. He says, your First Amendment rights
must be protected and God bless you. And I'm thinking,
what about our First Amendment rights? So that was early
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in July, and I just said, you know what, we're
going to open up and we're going to sue Governor Newson.
Because the seed was planted by Matt Staver, my attorney.
Going back to the call days in two thousand.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
And we sad the call from my audience because we okay,
so the call so the Lord spoke to lou Angle
to gather young people after the Promise Keepers in nineteen
ninety seven gathered a million men, and he said, this
is a partial fulfillment of Malachi chapter four, five and six.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
He's sending the prophet Elijah before the great and terrible
day of the Lord. He's turning the hearts of the
fathers to the children. But now we need a counterpart.
We need to turn the hearts of the children to
the fathers. That we could have either revival or curse
if we don't respond. And so the Lord spoke to
him to mobilize young people. He asked me to be
the organizer, so I became president CEO of the Call Together.
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We've been together since nineteen eighty two, so over forty
years that we've been running together. So that was naturally.
He's been my profit on his apostle, and so we
put this together and we thought there'd be round one
hundred thousand people that'll show up at ten o'clock. Over
four hundred thousand and this is the number of the
park police gave us. They knew how to measure the
Washington DC mall and came up. It turned out to
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be the largest you care gathering in the history of America.
But we needed an attorney to cover us for liability
and any other problems we would have or having a
prayer gathering. So Matt Staver was our attorney and I
met him there and he did pro boneum and he
also said to me, if you sue Governor Newsom, we
will cover you financially. But because there needs to be
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someone that takes a stant. And the reason why I
called him was because we opened up and I was
going to be in trouble with the law and I
wanted him to protect me. And he said, well, you know,
if you sue Governor Newsom, they can't touch you while
you're in litigation. Now, if you lose, then you're going
to jail. But you have to take that risk. And
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so I said, well, let me pray about it. And
it just took a week I prayed about it. The
Lord gave me a word from Joshua one nine Have
I not commanded you be strong and courageous, to not
be discouraged, to not be afraid for the Lord your
Goddess with you wherever you go. And then with that word,
I met with all our pastors. I called the board
of him. They said, we're all in. Not only that,
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but Matt said, if you really want to make an impact,
have the other h giant pastors be part of the plaintiff.
I got one hundred and forty five pastors to sign
up and they said we're all in. So there was
a network like you know, these profits that are not
going to bother their need to bail. They said we're in.
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And so now I lost in the lower courts. I
got a letter from the district attorney say there's going
to be a one year jail term for opening up,
and they knew. I just sued Governor news them and
that's their retaliation is the classic Marxist, you know, cancer
culture playbook. They want to silence me, to back off.
One year in jail, four point five million in fines,
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and then the last paragraph of the letter from the
district attorney, we reserve the right to arrest your church members.
Now thing about alands. We're talking about you know, citizens
that pay their taxes, they don't have any criminal record. Meanwhile,
Newsom's allowing Position forty seven all these drug dealers, drug addicts,
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rapists out of prison, and they want to arrest us.
So we've come to basically what Isaiah five twenty says,
well to those who call evil good good evil, and
that's where our society has been, especially in California. And
so by God's grace, we appealed to the Supreme Court
and we won on February the fifth, twenty twenty one.
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And not only did we win six to three, I mean,
think about it, John Roberts sided with us, and he
normally doesn't go conservative, but he did with us because
it was clear that Newsom had violated our First Amendment rights,
the right to worship, the right to gather, the right
to speak. And so we won a one point three
million dollar settlement and we gave it to of course
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our attorney, because they were doing pro bona, and so
Matt said, that was the largest centema we've ever received,
and so we're glad that we were to bless them.
But that was beginning of the pathway to take us
stand in California with the woe ideology there, it really
is like a Marxist state and the totalitarian I mean,
just the proposition fifty that we just had. The German
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mandering is another indicator. It's not based on constitution. We
already have a independent commission that was said constitutionally. We
bypassed that, and all of a sudden, the legislators are
now determining instead of we the people who's going to win.
And he just wants to make sure we have a
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supermajority of Republicans.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So folks understand this because you know, not everybody that's
in these things is informed on them. So after theoretically
after Texas, because of the population we have, was redefined
five new districts, I guess Republicans could be voted in.
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The word was a California news mecido. Yeah, yeah, well
we'll do that too. But I just found out last night.
They've been working on this for two years. This wasn't
a response to Texas. They were planning on doing this anyway,
right because Newsom wants to get this because he wants
to become the next president and bring the misery of
California to the rest of the country. And so they
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the Republicans in your state are around forty three percent
of the state.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, the Republicans is twenty five percent of the state
registered Republicans. Now President Trump won forty in twenty twenty four, Okay, So,
which means that the Democrats and independance shifted over and
then we had ten counties that went and read, which
is a great sign because I think people are tired
of the totalitarian rate of news and the supermajority of
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Democrats in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So think about it, ten counties went red. But what
newsomb is doing by setting aside that committee that was
authorized to do this and soa I forget you were
just going to do it ourselves. He's actually going to
shrink the representation then of the what is it the
they are the nine.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's amazing because the district lines already is just only
seventeen percent of the Republicans really have a voice now,
so he's reducing that more. And so basically it is
just a super majority, super supermajority of Democrats that will
be represented as not a.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
How do you how do you win in California as
a conservative as a Republican with only twenty five percent
Republican voting?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, Well, let me just say this is that there
is a pathway because there are a lot of conservative
believers who are just not engaged. They're so discouraged they've
thrown tow So we have more evangelicals than any other
state except for Texas. But unfortunately we have twelve million,
by the way, and six million that are registered. Three
million that are registered don't vote. And so my goal
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is to awaken the church. If we just got the
six million registered to vote biblically, we would win every
single race without the six million that are not registered.
In other words, the last gubernatorial race, eight million showed
up totally. And so just imagine if six million worthy Republicans,
we would win that race, and we would win all
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the state Assembly. And so our goal is to really
again pray for revival, because revival begins with the church
being awakened, and we need to educate them. And that's
why even on Flashborn last night, they were advocating that
we need to educate, educate. Basically, the problem is is
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that we have real bad theology in the church in California.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, I didn't I got bad numbers. I didn't know
that there were eight million voters decided the less combernatorial race.
And we have six million evangelicals in California.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Exactly that are registered, that are registered, but three million
of them don't turn out and vote.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So we just have that the Christians just cared enough
exactly vote Absolutely they could.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
They could.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's like rebuking the devil. If they cared enough to
rebuke the devil on one day with a ballot or
with a vote, they can have a whole couple of
years worth of rebuke ability on the devil.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah. Well, part of it is a bad theology. They
have a pre trip mid trip rapture, and I believe
in the rapture. I believe that Jesus is coming back
and we'll be caught up with him when he does come.
But I also believe that when he does come, he
creates a new haven, new Earth. That's my position.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
All right, Well, listen, I'm gonna have to take a
quick break here because of the syndicates I work with.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
We'll be right back, and so we have to be
tough on crime.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I mean, thinking about it, you can now go up
to the store with your calculator and buy steals nine
hundred fifty eight dollars. It's still against the law, but
it's just a misdemeanor and they're not going to wrest
you for a misdemeanor. Priuce of courts are overflooded, with
misdemeanor and felony charges. So and so people are just
getting and so people like CBS is moving out of
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San Francisco, Norseroom just moved out of San Francis. It's
not sustainable to have people just come in and steal.
You could card jack, you could steal your Mercedes Benz
as just a misdemeanor. It's ridiculous. So what I want
to do as governor is to really enforce Proposition of
thirty six, which past twenty twenty four is to make
the misdemeanors of felony. It was passed by seventy percent
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of the Californians. But here's the problem. Newsom is not
giving one cent to it. It's not enforcing Proposition thirty six.
I'm going to enforce it. And what we're going to
do is, I do believe that we have I have
a solution for the homeless situation to do with compassion.
They're around twenty percent that are really needing help with housing.
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Eighty percent of those are people who are drug added,
drug pushers and mentally ill. And what I'm going to
do is I'm going to give them an ultimatum that
you go through treatment with a nonprofit faith based program.
We have all this nonprofit organization, but they're not going
to get results because we're not allowed to preach the gospel.
Dream Center with my good friend Matthew Barnett, he doesn't
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take one penny from the government because he can't preach
the gospel if he did. And so I'm going to say,
with our First Amendment rights, you have the freedom and
I'm going to give you money to treat because they
have a tremendous track record their organization that have the
data of the track record approven transformation of these homeless people.
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They're getting jobs, are working, they're being productive, and I'm
going to give them money to them instead of failed
government policy. We spend five billion, we have nothing to
show for. We just see an increase every day. This
is actually a crime because every day seven homeless people
are dying on them streets, three hundred and sixty five
a year, and so we're just talking about a culture
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of death that's being perpetuated in California. We've had Proposition
one that codified abortion to state constitution twenty twenty three.
We have the teenagers who are going through transition committing
suicide at the alarming rate, and so the whole transgender
ideology being shut down kids' throats, and we pass bills
where like AB one nine five five that teachers, even
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Christian teachers, cannot notify the parents that you've got to
watch out for your son wants to change his pronoun
and it wants to go through transition. We can't even
notify them by law. And so the parental rights have
been taken away. And again just recent bill AB four
ninety five that is really legalized a child custody from
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the parents' original parents, that anyone can just take the child.
And we're talking about human trafficking is going to take
place as a result of that, and it is so.
Human trafficking has tripled under Newsom's watch since some of
the WIG bills that he signed into law. I can
talk more about that, but it's just a problem. It's
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a mess, and so we have to bring law and order.
We have to bring safe communities back, affordable homes, by
reducing the energy prices, by opening up the wells and
patroleum once.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
Again, you have patrolling capacity, oh my goodness, in one
county alone, we have enough natural gas and crude oil
which we need in California for the refineries to produce
enough for our whole state.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
But we're importing sixty percent of our petroleum from Saudi Arabia.
Could wait another place like that, because we don't want
to be the ones that's polluting the air.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
They can, they can pollute the air, but not but
that air never shows up on your globe exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Newsom just wants a clean report guard. I'm a green
environmental less and look what we've done in California. And yeah,
the pollution that's happening, uh, just Unbelievable's.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Like Venezuela crude will import it.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
It's hypocrisy. It's just total hypocrisy.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
So the uh so, if people want to stay connected
with you, because you're really this is a populist movement
camp campaign and it's doing it with a faith based
hopefully a faith based support based So what do they
need to do?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Well, they can go to cha Chi number four for
CAA for California, Chay for CAA, and they can dot
com and they can look at my website. But I
want them to realize that I am running for governor
for all the people, not just a conservative religious right
I am a pastor over everyone in my church, Democrats, Republicans.
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I have people of every single background and I want
to be the pastor and governor. That's why people call
me Papa che around the world. Big. I've demonstrated being
a father to the fatherless, and right now we live
in an orphan state. It's just the young males, especially,
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They're so masculated. They just are staying home with their parents,
the smoking marijuana and just playing with their computer games.
And I just want them to get out there. I
want to empower them to get jobs. So we have
so many regulations. It's hard to start a business. We
have four hundred thousand regulations, the highest taxes. So I'm
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going to reduce the regulations. I'm going to reduce the taxes.
I'm going to encourage people to start because people don't
realize I'm also a businessman. I've been a pastor for
forty six years, but in twenty ten I started my
own escorpate and I'm making more money as a businessman
than I'm able to turn in my salary. Three times
my salary back to the church, and anyone who knows
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the books can attest to it. I've been doing that
for fifteen year's lance. So I want to apply the
principles I've learned in business apply it to Sacramento, because
we're now twenty billion dollars in deficit spending for this
year alone. Here's the fourth richest economy and we're twenty
billion in debt, and so we're gonna get rid of
the debt. We're gonna I'm gonna a doge everything. I'm
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going to audit the bullet train to nowhere. We think
about it. We approved forty billion in two thousand and eight,
is up to one hundred billion now and not one
foot of track to show for it.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
All that money, all that California money. How can new
some campaign He can't.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
This is the thing. When the record goes out, I
don't care what he thinks of himself. So if I
could just say this, it's just blind ambition, and it's
it's not about we the people, it's about him. And
so he uses his position to campaign for twenty twenty
eight election. That's what he's doing right now with probably
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in fifth Yeah, I mean, let's just be honest about that.
So we've had politicians that are absolutely self absorbed, narcissistic,
It's all about them, and it's not about me. It's
about the peoples. We the people. It is a populist movement.
I wanted to give empower people. So we have thirty
five percent of the middle class that are now living
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in poverty, and I want to eradicate them. And so
it is the economy stupid. You know, we need to
have California affordable game.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I got I got like around the thirty seconds left here,
But I do want to talk about who else is
running in California.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
What makes you different than them?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Well, first of all, let me just say they're all
wonderful people. I really mean that. You know, I've met
Steve Hilton, I met Sheriff Bianco. They really won what's
best for California. But I'm the only one that's signed
the Family First storm lighte Statement, which is pro life,
pro family, pro freedom, appropriate market, pro Israel. They won't
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sign it. And this is not to cast a negative
expersion on them. They have reasons they think in California
to win the Democrats over. They probably will lose if
they signed it. But to me, I believe I win
the Conservative Democrats over because I'm an Asian immigrant. We
have fifty one percent of California or people of ethnic background.
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And I came when I was five years old legally
obviously with my parents, and we have lived in the
American dream, and I want to give that opportunity for
every immigrant that's in California. We have over two hundred
different languages spoken just in Los Angeles alone, and so
I feel my pathway whereas all of them. And nothing
against being white male. You know, I'm not in the DEI,
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but I saded out to all of them, and the
Democrats think that way. And so I think if they're
going to look for a Democrat, that I mean a
Republican that's common sense oriented that want to restore parential rights. Again,
seventy percent of Democratic moms wants the parental rights to
be restored and not the state to take over their kids.
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And so I feel like I have a pathway to
convince them.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
Window I'm going to get the message out, folks. I'm
like I'm one minute over. Remember that cha for.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
C a dot com and you can find you can
keep in touch with him and follow me. Are you
on any social media?
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Also?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yes, on my platforms. Check out my Instagram, my Facebook,
count everything.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
All right, well, thank you for being with us, Popa
Chay and I can't believe with the time went boom,
that was it, all right, I can't believe it. We'll
see you again in the next segment for Real America's
Voice and uh see you tomorrow for my main platform.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
God bless
So many of you are already familiar with Steve Days,
the Steve Days Show on Blaze Media as someone who.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Begins school in sports radio WA show.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
In the morning Iowa, but then pivot into political talk
for obvious reasons. He's got a really, i'd say, a
jeweler's eye, like Blake William Buckley had a book was
the Jeweler's Eye. He's got a jeweler's eye for speaking
critically to cultural issues politics and speaks with a faith
based advocacy. But it's kind of curious. He's the best
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selling author Rules for Patriots in twenty fourteen and The
Liberal War on Transparency in twenty eighteen. But what's for
those of you that are seven Mountain officionados. He also
produced the movie Nefarious, which my daughter was involved with
promoting in twenty twenty three, and that explores the demonic influence,
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the demonic influence through a Christian lens, but you could
see it virtually in a whole lot of area other
than just Hollywood right now. So I want to welcome
Steve Days. Welcome to the show. I got to them.
I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Good to see you, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I know what's percolating on the top of your list.
You're doing Blaze reporting, you're covering what are you? Are
you covering the shutdown? Are you covering the election result?
To what's your audience resonating with?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I think he answered all those questions is yes. And
you know, Lance, I think that there have been a
series of divine and providential clarifications over the last five years,
and I and maybe even over the last ten years.
And I think I think a lot of God's people
have prayed and wondered, how much longer are we going
(01:40):
to let this continue to suffer, to slouch, to gomorra,
to quote the late great Robert Bork. And I think
over the last ten years you have seen I think
the Lord Act. And I think that there's been a
series of events. I think Donald Trump is the most
clarifying force in American history. I've just never seen one
person provoke that. It provokes so many people to tell
(02:03):
us who they really are, uh than Donald Trump. And
I just I don't see how that's a natural explanation
for that. I think that is a supernatural phenomenon. And
then I think covid UH and especially what it did
to the Church uh, and then accompanied by the false
church that the spear of the age church uh, exemplified
by the uh the know the Summer of Floyd that
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exact same year. And then I think the aftermath of
my buddy Charlie Kirk's martyring. And I think in all
these events, you're you're seeing people kind of reveal themselves,
for better or for worse, who they really are. And
I think you're watching the Master Gardner kind of prune
his tree, so to speak. And I think, I think
(02:45):
we've got to trim some fat, you know, And I
think the church has to get smaller before it gets better.
We've had an entire generation of Hawaiian shirt sweater vest uh,
you know, skinny Jean. Christianity and discipleship was not taken seriously.
And I think that the Lord is reading his church
for war, and I think, you know, there's got to
be some subtraction before there's multiplication.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And I think we're watching all of that now.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And when I when I look at at the right,
when I look at our side, I think there is
a choice, a generational choice before us.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Lance.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
If you look at what's happened in Western Europe after
the Church basically abrogated from the public square a generation ago.
And the right now in Western Europe is very reactionary,
almost like a self retardation of reactionary ism, to the
point that it can't get elected anywhere. The so called
righty parties are all just functions of a unibrow. There's
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no agency. They can't vote themselves out of, out of,
out of the mess that they're in. And I think
this is the choice before our side right now, and
that is are we gonna Are we going to see
Charlie Kirk revival or reactionary retardation where we just make
ourselves so reactionary to abs everything that we can't win
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elections on any level whatsoever. We can't win any kind
of critical mass of normy voters. We become an epistemological
black hole where well, I mean, I've got the real
conspiracy of the conspiracy of the conspiracy of the conspiracy.
And I say this as someone that you know, I
question the narratives a lot. I wrote a number one
best selling book questioning the entire scandemic narrative. But I
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think it's important for God's people lands to remember this
Christianity is not the endless asking of questions. It is
the ceaseless seeking of answers. We are heading into Christmas season,
where the King of the universe so wanted to be known,
he left heaven and put himself in the most vulnerable
form he could, as a human being. The truth asks
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seek not the truth wants to be known. The heavens
declare the glory of God. God came to us in
the form of a human being. He was with us, Emmanuel,
all right. He put his spirit now in us, all right,
the hope of glory Christ in us. And I think
this is the choice we now have, which is it's
not about questioning everything as much as it is finding answers.
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Jesus said to Pilot, for this reason, I came into
the world to testify to the truth.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And so are we going to seek truth?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Are we going to take our skepticism and let it
fund and and and and you know, sort of inspire
the biggest zeal for truth we've seen in a generation,
or we're going to let it retard us. So we
just sit around here and just say things that are
the absolute dumbest thing, so easily deconstructed all the time.
Because to have found the truth means you've somehow become
some kind of neocon or sellout, and I think that's
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the choice before us.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And I think it's no. You know, Charlie was the
best of us.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I think I really, I mean, he really was apostolic
in his giftedness. And I think people are now seeing
in the last few weeks how much of this reactionary
retardation he was actually holding back. And I don't think
it's any it's any coincidence that has just surged to
the forefront in the last in the two months since
his murder.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
So you got that. Listen, man, You're like a fire hose.
I love. I mean several notes that why we were talking.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So I'm going to go back to earlier comments you
made that I didn't want to interrupt you to say,
but I'm thinking going back. But you ended on Charlie.
So let me let me start with that I said
when he died, I said, Ben Shapiro made the comedy.
He said, if you don't understand that Charlie was a
coalition builder, that that was the art form that that
that Ben Shapiro saw. Then I thought about it, Well,
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he could hit you know, David Rubin and he has
the gay conservative contingency over here, and then he's got
the uh, you know, the Maha movement people over here
and the independence over there. And then you were talking
about the you'll have to explain this later.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
What a normy voter is. Some of my people don't
know that.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But anyway, he could take this broad constellation of relationships
and and he did not have Candice Owens at any
of the amer fests, and he didn't have her on
his radio show, but he kept he kept enough of
a text thread with everybody so that everybody knew he
loved them and he supported them, but he evaluated whether
or not they were healthy and useful to the coalition
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he was building. And you were invited or invited out
to speak based on that. But what I noticed is
the moment that he died. My mind went to the
Book of Acts where Paul was in Ephesus, and he said,
I know that after my departure shall fierce wolves break
in among you, and even from among your own selves,
shall menorize speaking perverse things in order to draw away
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the disciples after themselves. That word in Greek for speaking
to perverse things means focusing on some nuance of theology
or doctrine that will distinguish yourself from each other, to
fragment an audience to follow you. You couldn't describe more
perfectly what happened in the aftermath. Spiritually, what happened after
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Charlie's assassination was all guns should have shifted over on the.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Madness on the left.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
That manifests itself in all of the extremism of the violence,
from Antifa to the trans in doctor to the university
cauldron of indoctrination. In other words, the guns were set there.
And what happens like almost in the absence of Charlie
to control the fire, everybody trained their guns on each
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other and started a circular firing squad. And so you've
got Candace. I'll dismiss from the moment because I got to.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Deal with her. She's talking about me, So she's a
separate subject.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But Tucker and Bannon and Levin and Shapiro, all of
these guys fighting with each other. And by the way,
anti Semitism is at the root of it, the issue
of Israel.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
If you could have asked.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
An evangelical for a more poignant confirmation where in the
last days, let Israel be the subject that divides a
move of God in the United States, they after they
fight a survival campaign for four years. So I look
at this and I go, that's demonic. But if we
don't settle this, Steve, I don't know who's got the
voice of the adult in the room. Maybe Trump has
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to have a private phone call. If we don't sort
this out fast. The movement that was begun with Maga
with Trump, that Charlie helped to coalition together will not
be together form mid terms. And the other point I
was going to make is I was laughing because you
said Donald Trump is that force of nature, like Haley's
comment that comes by ever so often. The problem with
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him is he is the singular factor that gets the
vote out. On the left, they'll be mobilized by their
hatred of Trump. But on the right, if he's not
on the ticket, he's not mobilizing. And the aha that
I got after the election results, and I didn't have
it the night, you know, like we get pulled on
TV to comment on stuff, and I didn't process it
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all that night because the gap was so big in
the turnout that it wasn't until the next day that
I said. What actually happened is that the Libertarian, the
Hispanic mail, the African American man, all the all those
people that made up that movement for Trump, including Mah
and the independ they weren't voting for Republicans.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
This is a serious problem in midterms. Am I right?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
One hundred percent? You are correct?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
And it's almost like the enemy knew exactly where to
hit us with Charlie's murder. And so it's good to
take a consortion of people that are going to be
that are going to have to now step into that
void with various sectors of skill and expertise to hold
it together. I will tell you who I believe is
a very key person in all of this, and that
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is Vice President JD.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Vance.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And the reason why is number one, It's obvious he's
the vice president as the crown Prince of Maga.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It is obvious that that. I mean, I just heard this.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'll say this publicly now, I just heard this from
Charlie privately, right to my face, all right, that people
like him and Don Junior and Tucker lobbied the President
to make him the VP with the expressed intent of
leaving an heir apparent and I had a conversation a
few months ago with Nut Gingrich, and he said that
the greatest political regret of his career on the right
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is that Ronald Reagan did not make Jack Kemp his
nominee for VP of nineteen eighty but tried a unity
ticket with the Bushes instead, and that left Reagan without
an ideological air. And so the minute that his time
was done, he stepped aside and based in the mainstream
Republican party of the past, took right back over. And
so he was hopeful that JD. Vance would be the
correction of that mistake. I think that Vance, as a millennial,
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understands the lament of our young men. Our young men,
particularly our young white men, frankly, have a lot to
be justifiably complaining about, given the mess in their laps.
And I say this, I've got a young man in
my home, and in the process of launching my eighteen
year old son out into the world.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He's learning right.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Now that he's going to have to make thirty thirty
five thousand dollars a year right out of high school
in Des Moines, Iowa to get a decent apartment in
a car. He's not embarrassed to pick a girl up
in for a date.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And no other generation has faced anything like that since
the Industrial Revolution. And so we've got to figure out
who can message that anger and then like Charlie could,
and then push it into a constructive venue.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Than Steve, I got to stop you and how this works.
So I got to do a quick station brig for
real America's voice.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
We'll be right back. All right, we are back now.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You said something right before the break about your son
thirty five thousand dollars has to come in and offer
him to have a decent car to pick up a
girl for a date, and then have an apartment. And yeah,
and Charlie, you know Charlie's passion. It was so interesting
because he had his finger on the pulse of the
millennial vote. If you expect to get that thirty year
old and younger vote, that turning points going after, you've
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got to get them affordable housing. The big issue for
them is economics. And I'd say that he was so
clear on that, and it's sad because he had the
ear of Donald Trump and he could say, you're never
gonna We're never gonna win an election. If we don't
convince to them that our policies are affecting them. This
isn't about the border now, this isn't about pharmaceuticals, this
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isn't about entitlements. This is about the ability of young
people to have confidence in the American system to be
able to provide for them. Or you're really subject to
the anarchy of what's going on with the left now,
because their appeal is the systems rigged. And this is
the other narrative that kind of intrigued me that Mondamie
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in New York is taking the Bernie Sanders and AOC line,
which I'm hearing from some essayists. It's similar to Trump's
appeal in that they're speaking to the frustrations of the
person out there that feels like they're not winning like
someone else is and this system is somehow rigged against them.
And Trump kind of comes along and says it is rigged,
but I'm going to fix it. And then the socialist
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comes along and says it's rigged, and I'm on your side.
I need your help. We better sort this thing out,
don't you think. And talk to me about where are
the elections for midterms? We should be having on our radar, we.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Have to understand moving forward.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Lance in New York City is I think the final
confirmation of this that elections now are rival missionary expeditions.
They're not just about turning out voters. You have to
speak to the soul. These economic issues speak to the soul.
We're talking about not top marginal tax rates and how
to spur on a new entrepreneurial class. We're talking about
real quality life stuff. Can I actually find a girl
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and have a family and experience the American dream at
a basic one oh one level? And if I can't,
then why in the world would I go ahead and
take on all these other social stigmas like DEI and
abortion and rot gut to TRAINESM and everything else in
the schools. And so that energy, all that male masculine
energy in our young men, has to go somewhere, and
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it will go someone somewhere, either constructively or destructively. And
when you skip a generation in the pulpit of men
collectively and a generation of fathers in the home collectively,
figuratively or little, there's a lot of young men that
don't understand meekness, power, under control. What that stuff means.
We need to earnestly disciple them. Charlie understood that we
need to follow that example. And that's why I think
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Frankly Vance is such a key figure in this because
I think he is the one person that has any
remote shot of slipping into some of those vacated.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Shoes of Charlie's.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
When you look at the elections coming up in midterms,
we need candidates that are able to speak to the soul,
that understand these are quality of life issues. So if
I can be a little selfish, I look at my
own home state of Iowa governor candidate that I'm supporting
at Adam Stein, and Adam talks about wanting to be
the most pro trade, skill manufacturing governor in America. But
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I love the way that he talks about it. It's
not just hey, these are real wages, but it's just
quality of life stuff. Hey, do I have an option
other than I leave high school and I go get
seven figures of loan debt and play Russian Roulette with
my soul? Am I going to walk out of there
as a gay, race, communist or not?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Right? But is there a few at your path beyond that?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
And I look at how Adam speaks to that former
Assemblies of God minister. He was the CEO of our state.
So he's run the state on a government level. He
understands where all the bodies are buried. He speaks to
these kinds of issues that are really at the heart
of what kind of country and way of life are
we going to have?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And we need candidates that are able to do that.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
All right, So he's in Iowa, right.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Correct, Adam Stein.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
So by the way, Iowa. So the Iowa caucus. That's
going to be a big deal. I guess to the
presidential election and he's up during the midterms. That's a
midterm vote we're doing.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yep, that's next year. We have a vacated seat for governor.
And here's the thing, and your audience is going to
find this fascinating. So our state's become one of the
reddest in the Union's redist in the Union. We have
had one Democrat able to win statewide. His name is
Rob Sand He's now running for governor. He won his
state auditor. He bought that seat with money he married into.
He's now running for governor. And if you look at
Rob Sand's socials lance, this is not a guy that
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is running away from faith. He's trying to co opt it.
I mean Rob sand is going to literally stand up
there and say Jesus was a socialist, and he's going
to say this to the people of Iowa in a debate.
And if we just send up there's some kind of
technocratic Republican who just is nothing but a construct of
consultant cliches, he's going to walk out of there looking
like a heretic.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
In front of swing voters or normy voters.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
We need somebody who can correct, you know, like you frankly,
like Christ, you know, saying to the enemy, correcting him
when he takes scriptures out of context. Rob sand is
taking the scriptures out of context in his post on
social media on a regular basis. He is trying to
coerce and are He's trying to co opt our own
language and use it against us. It is so important
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that we now nominate candidates moving forward who have the
right worldview and the ability to wield it. When you
talk about Charlie's ability to build that coalition, it was
an offshoot lance of his worldview. He understod common grace,
natural law, He understood all these.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Things and he was able to apply it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, I'm you know, as I said earlier before we
did the show, I have to listen to Can. This
has been targeting me yesterday. And part of her complaint
is the turning point, that Charlie became too evangelical and
that it.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Was too Mormon. It was too moremon the other day,
it's too evangelical.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Now, yeah, it's too evangelical. Yeah, and so he was
too much and it wasn't like this early on. I mean,
turning point wasn't always about this. I mean, the guy
did start when he was eighteen. He's allowed to develop
a worldview like Lincoln by the time he's thirty one.
But I think what surprises me is that there would
be an audience that would think that Christianity is just
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is only a religious thing that happens on Sunday. It
actually is a worldview for prioritizing a moral universe where
you're accountable to God and having a family and pro
creating and loving one another and then having meaningful work.
That there's an order, there's kind of like a primacy
in the universe of what's important.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yes, and Christians.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
What I want to break through and use this opportunity
with Candae to smash and start to get get across
more powerfully. Is that this Christian nationalism is like nobody
can define what it is. It was a label basically
to try to make people sound like extremist, racist or something,
but actually it was white Christian nationalism until David Harrison
a bunch of my black megabuddies started embarrassing them, saying,
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I guess I'm a white Christian nationalist, but Christianity ought
to be in the public. I think what Charlie did
that JD Vans confess. He said I wasn't talking about
Jesus up until two weeks ago. I'm glad to see
that he has said it because everybody else is evidently
that the Christian worldview is something which applies to the
health of society.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Am I right in that?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Unfortunately we have spent a generation collectively in the church
building brands and not the kingdom.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
We have we have you know, skinny.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Jeans, sweater vests, Hawaiian shirts, nicer in God, perpetually furrowed
brows when we're not being nicer than God, saying things like, well,
you know, I've got a very diverse, you know congregation
here that may not feel the same way about the issues.
Why would you have a diverse congregation of people who
don't believe in God's word? Why would that go unaddressed
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in any kind of church whatsoever? I mean, I mean,
I just that's not a church. That's a social club
with Bible versus out of context. And again I can
just say this, having had these conversations with Charlie privately
on multiple occasions. This is one of the key drivers
of everything he did. He was trying to build an
apostolic ministry and parachurch organization to take the place of
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much of the church which had vacated the public square,
particularly where men and young men were concerned for the
last generation. And that is a space now that the
rest of us have left to pick up the mic
and follow in his footsteps and try to fill. If
we win the men, will win the families. If you
win the families, you'll win over a civilization. What will
win them exactly the message, which is the application of
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the Word of God that you just articulated a moment ago.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
All right, So when you look at the church's response,
I think you said it was because I want to
lose you in just a moment you said it was
going to be like COVID and the George Floyd riots
and uh and then Charlie in the aftermath. But what
was it that you saw during COVID and the George
Floyd riots that you that that made you say that
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these were like almost like spiritually significant.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
What did you call it? You know, points of inflection
in the.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Formating cosmic clarifiers, cosmic clarifier of what.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Ultimately what field God is at working.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And one of the things you see throughout history, nothing
good comes from Nazareth. Well, who would want fishermen for
you know, for apostles the Hebrew of Hebrews, former Christian
persecutor now becomes a Christian. But not just any Christian.
He is now sent to a van the very gentiles
that he viewed himself as better than. You see this
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all throughout the Kingdom of God that he uses, the
the you know, the the he uses the foolish things
of this world that he is contrary to the world system.
Christianity is a paradox in and of itself, Die to live,
suffer to gain, you know, I mean, no other system
you know advocates these things like the Kingdom of God does.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And I mean, I just look at myself, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I'm a former mailroom clerk, porn addict, and now I've
got one of the largest Christian media platforms in the
United States of America.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I couldn't even tell you how it happened.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
It just kind of happened, almost against my will, if
I'm being honest with you. All right, So this is
not my life planned from twenty years ago how it
all turned out, all right, But this is how you
can tell when God is at work.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And the fact that the He usually and here's the
other thing to always watch.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
God always goes around the traditional religious structure that failed
the previous generation. Always goes around it every single time.
And you're watching that. Now you're watching I've said to
my buddy Lucas Miles over it a TPUSA faith. Congratulations, brother,
you're now head of the largest parachurch organization in the
entire history of Christendom.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
All right.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Lucas is from a modest sized church in South Bend, Indiana,
and he's only been on the job for a couple
of years. All right, But if you've been if you
spent ten minutes with Lucas, you'd see I guess guy's
heart has sold out to the gospel that is exact,
and that's why Charlie picked him, and that's exactly why
God picked him. And you can see every single time
God shames the structure that failed his people and goes
around the religious structure that failed the previous generation. That
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happens every single time. That rhythm is in the scriptures
repeatedly old in New Testament and throughout church history as well.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You know what simplified it for me was because I'm
a Seven Mountain guy. That's what I'm accused of anyway,
And I look at those mountains and I see this.
I saw Charlie was the guy who was representing the church.
But in order to get the family mountain, he went
into the education mountain to go talk about Christian worldview
to the students, and then he utilized that in order
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to get out the under thirty vote for political purposes
and fed his visibility in his organization by capitalizing on media,
training it into an artistic art form, taking debates and
having billions of views on YouTube off his debates, and
funded it off of business people that I know that
underwrote the experts. All seven mountains he threatens. That's why
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when you said apostolic, I said, he's so totally right.
He went outside the church representing the church. And now, truly,
if we're going to do what we're called to do,
we have to activate the parachurch in every one of
those spheres to pick up the fallen baton. I'm out
of time, Steve. We're gonna have to have you back again.
We're just getting started God. But how do people follow you?
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By the way, how do they get in.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Touch with you?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Easiest thing?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Just follow me on Twitter at Steve Day's show or X.
I'm sorry now I can't get used to that at
Steve days show on X.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well that's right, Well you feel sorry for me. Most
of my followers are still on Facebook. That tells you
about my aging demographic. All right, listen, we're doing all
all things politically. You think that was interesting, Wait till
you talk to uh cha ah. The guy that I
got coming up next is actually taken on that wicked
governor's seat out in California. And who knows, maybe it's
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time that we saw God move in California. You're gonna
not want to miss this. We'll be right back. Well,
a year ago, we had that moment when huh boy,
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what a relief that was. The Trump train pulled into
the station and history was being made right in front
of our eyes. And after all the prayer, and I
remember watching Charlie Kirk crying tears of relief because he knew,
as some other of us did, that we're on lists.
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We you know, by the Operation Artic Frost, we were
on lists of government attacks. They would come after us
with IRS documents and you know, because we talk politics,
but we're also preachers, and they would.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Have hit us.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
We were relieved and we were delighted that God moved.
Now we've got a new political season. Looks like the
Left is pushing back with a vengeance, got coiled spring
all that great awakening and move of God we talk
about in America. Let's face it, it may be a
move happening, but it's not resulting in a penetration in
the electoral realm. And brothers and sisters, if we don't
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guard the government gate, all the gains will be short lived.
So my guest right now is someone I've known for
years and I've been friends with. So when he said
that God was calling him to run for governor in California. Well,
I've said, I know what a battle that's going to be. However,
I want to do everything I can to introduce my
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audience to him. He's he could be called doctor Cheyon,
he's got an earned doctorate, could be called Pastor chay On.
He has built a strong church and a network of churches,
but he's most effectually known as Papa chay because he's
like a dad to a whole lot of Christians.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Welcome back on the show. Actually, because you and I
do flash right now.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I think I was having me What an honor, what
a blessing to be with you. It's amazing how this
started with me having a dream about you, and then
I called you, and then I also remembered you said
I want you on my show as we're running, and
so yeah, you can led to another and here we are,
well here, here we are.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So but you you know you're not a stranger to
the governor's mansion. The governor tried to lock you up.
And I want everyone to hear the story because it's like,
we forget this governor Newsom, who's gonna want to be president.
This guy was shutting down churches, threatening them with finds
if they went to church during his reign, the freedom
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of a tyranny over there, and then the pastors themselves
would be sent to jail.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah. Absolutely, and then we see how he just discriminated
against the church. He said, abortion clinics are essential, they're open,
Marijuana dispensaries are essential, they're open. A strip club in
San Diego was essential for the armed forces, and he
said that they're essential, but that the churches were not.
And I saw that. And then when the George Floyd
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rights took place, he does a press conference and there
was no social disc no one's wearing a mask. They
destroyed fear fact she talked about racism, was antisemitic, and
yet he commends them. He says, your First Amendment rights
must be protected and God bless you. And I'm thinking,
what about our First Amendment rights? So that was early
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in July, and I just said, you know what, we're
going to open up and we're going to sue Governor Newson.
Because the seed was planted by Matt Staver, my attorney.
Going back to the call days in two thousand.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
And we sad the call from my audience because we okay,
so the call so the Lord spoke to lou Angle
to gather young people after the Promise Keepers in nineteen
ninety seven gathered a million men, and he said, this
is a partial fulfillment of Malachi chapter four, five and six.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
He's sending the prophet Elijah before the great and terrible
day of the Lord. He's turning the hearts of the
fathers to the children. But now we need a counterpart.
We need to turn the hearts of the children to
the fathers. That we could have either revival or curse
if we don't respond. And so the Lord spoke to
him to mobilize young people. He asked me to be
the organizer, so I became president CEO of the Call Together.
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We've been together since nineteen eighty two, so over forty
years that we've been running together. So that was naturally.
He's been my profit on his apostle, and so we
put this together and we thought there'd be round one
hundred thousand people that'll show up at ten o'clock. Over
four hundred thousand and this is the number of the
park police gave us. They knew how to measure the
Washington DC mall and came up. It turned out to
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be the largest you care gathering in the history of America.
But we needed an attorney to cover us for liability
and any other problems we would have or having a
prayer gathering. So Matt Staver was our attorney and I
met him there and he did pro boneum and he
also said to me, if you sue Governor Newsom, we
will cover you financially. But because there needs to be
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someone that takes a stant. And the reason why I
called him was because we opened up and I was
going to be in trouble with the law and I
wanted him to protect me. And he said, well, you know,
if you sue Governor Newsom, they can't touch you while
you're in litigation. Now, if you lose, then you're going
to jail. But you have to take that risk. And
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so I said, well, let me pray about it. And
it just took a week I prayed about it. The
Lord gave me a word from Joshua one nine Have
I not commanded you be strong and courageous, to not
be discouraged, to not be afraid for the Lord your
Goddess with you wherever you go. And then with that word,
I met with all our pastors. I called the board
of him. They said, we're all in. Not only that,
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but Matt said, if you really want to make an impact,
have the other h giant pastors be part of the plaintiff.
I got one hundred and forty five pastors to sign
up and they said we're all in. So there was
a network like you know, these profits that are not
going to bother their need to bail. They said we're in.
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And so now I lost in the lower courts. I
got a letter from the district attorney say there's going
to be a one year jail term for opening up,
and they knew. I just sued Governor news them and
that's their retaliation is the classic Marxist, you know, cancer
culture playbook. They want to silence me, to back off.
One year in jail, four point five million in fines,
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and then the last paragraph of the letter from the
district attorney, we reserve the right to arrest your church members.
Now thing about alands. We're talking about you know, citizens
that pay their taxes, they don't have any criminal record. Meanwhile,
Newsom's allowing Position forty seven all these drug dealers, drug addicts,
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rapists out of prison, and they want to arrest us.
So we've come to basically what Isaiah five twenty says,
well to those who call evil good good evil, and
that's where our society has been, especially in California. And
so by God's grace, we appealed to the Supreme Court
and we won on February the fifth, twenty twenty one.
(32:27):
And not only did we win six to three, I mean,
think about it, John Roberts sided with us, and he
normally doesn't go conservative, but he did with us because
it was clear that Newsom had violated our First Amendment rights,
the right to worship, the right to gather, the right
to speak. And so we won a one point three
million dollar settlement and we gave it to of course
(32:48):
our attorney, because they were doing pro bona, and so
Matt said, that was the largest centema we've ever received,
and so we're glad that we were to bless them.
But that was beginning of the pathway to take us
stand in California with the woe ideology there, it really
is like a Marxist state and the totalitarian I mean,
just the proposition fifty that we just had. The German
(33:09):
mandering is another indicator. It's not based on constitution. We
already have a independent commission that was said constitutionally. We
bypassed that, and all of a sudden, the legislators are
now determining instead of we the people who's going to win.
And he just wants to make sure we have a
(33:31):
supermajority of Republicans.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So folks understand this because you know, not everybody that's
in these things is informed on them. So after theoretically
after Texas, because of the population we have, was redefined
five new districts, I guess Republicans could be voted in.
(33:57):
The word was a California news mecido. Yeah, yeah, well
we'll do that too. But I just found out last night.
They've been working on this for two years. This wasn't
a response to Texas. They were planning on doing this anyway,
right because Newsom wants to get this because he wants
to become the next president and bring the misery of
California to the rest of the country. And so they
(34:20):
the Republicans in your state are around forty three percent
of the state.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, the Republicans is twenty five percent of the state
registered Republicans. Now President Trump won forty in twenty twenty four, Okay, So,
which means that the Democrats and independance shifted over and
then we had ten counties that went and read, which
is a great sign because I think people are tired
of the totalitarian rate of news and the supermajority of
(34:48):
Democrats in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So think about it, ten counties went red. But what
newsomb is doing by setting aside that committee that was
authorized to do this and soa I forget you were
just going to do it ourselves. He's actually going to
shrink the representation then of the what is it the
they are the nine.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's amazing because the district lines already is just only
seventeen percent of the Republicans really have a voice now,
so he's reducing that more. And so basically it is
just a super majority, super supermajority of Democrats that will
be represented as not a.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
How do you how do you win in California as
a conservative as a Republican with only twenty five percent
Republican voting?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Okay, Well, let me just say this is that there
is a pathway because there are a lot of conservative
believers who are just not engaged. They're so discouraged they've
thrown tow So we have more evangelicals than any other
state except for Texas. But unfortunately we have twelve million,
by the way, and six million that are registered. Three
million that are registered don't vote. And so my goal
(36:00):
is to awaken the church. If we just got the
six million registered to vote biblically, we would win every
single race without the six million that are not registered.
In other words, the last gubernatorial race, eight million showed
up totally. And so just imagine if six million worthy Republicans,
we would win that race, and we would win all
(36:22):
the state Assembly. And so our goal is to really
again pray for revival, because revival begins with the church
being awakened, and we need to educate them. And that's
why even on Flashborn last night, they were advocating that
we need to educate, educate. Basically, the problem is is
(36:42):
that we have real bad theology in the church in California.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, I didn't I got bad numbers. I didn't know
that there were eight million voters decided the less combernatorial race.
And we have six million evangelicals in California.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Exactly that are registered, that are registered, but three million
of them don't turn out and vote.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
So we just have that the Christians just cared enough
exactly vote Absolutely they could.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
They could.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's like rebuking the devil. If they cared enough to
rebuke the devil on one day with a ballot or
with a vote, they can have a whole couple of
years worth of rebuke ability on the devil.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah. Well, part of it is a bad theology. They
have a pre trip mid trip rapture, and I believe
in the rapture. I believe that Jesus is coming back
and we'll be caught up with him when he does come.
But I also believe that when he does come, he
creates a new haven, new Earth. That's my position.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
All right, Well, listen, I'm gonna have to take a
quick break here because of the syndicates I work with.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
We'll be right back, and so we have to be
tough on crime.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I mean, thinking about it, you can now go up
to the store with your calculator and buy steals nine
hundred fifty eight dollars. It's still against the law, but
it's just a misdemeanor and they're not going to wrest
you for a misdemeanor. Priuce of courts are overflooded, with
misdemeanor and felony charges. So and so people are just
getting and so people like CBS is moving out of
(38:16):
San Francisco, Norseroom just moved out of San Francis. It's
not sustainable to have people just come in and steal.
You could card jack, you could steal your Mercedes Benz
as just a misdemeanor. It's ridiculous. So what I want
to do as governor is to really enforce Proposition of
thirty six, which past twenty twenty four is to make
the misdemeanors of felony. It was passed by seventy percent
(38:38):
of the Californians. But here's the problem. Newsom is not
giving one cent to it. It's not enforcing Proposition thirty six.
I'm going to enforce it. And what we're going to
do is, I do believe that we have I have
a solution for the homeless situation to do with compassion.
They're around twenty percent that are really needing help with housing.
(38:59):
Eighty percent of those are people who are drug added,
drug pushers and mentally ill. And what I'm going to
do is I'm going to give them an ultimatum that
you go through treatment with a nonprofit faith based program.
We have all this nonprofit organization, but they're not going
to get results because we're not allowed to preach the gospel.
Dream Center with my good friend Matthew Barnett, he doesn't
(39:21):
take one penny from the government because he can't preach
the gospel if he did. And so I'm going to say,
with our First Amendment rights, you have the freedom and
I'm going to give you money to treat because they
have a tremendous track record their organization that have the
data of the track record approven transformation of these homeless people.
(39:43):
They're getting jobs, are working, they're being productive, and I'm
going to give them money to them instead of failed
government policy. We spend five billion, we have nothing to
show for. We just see an increase every day. This
is actually a crime because every day seven homeless people
are dying on them streets, three hundred and sixty five
a year, and so we're just talking about a culture
(40:04):
of death that's being perpetuated in California. We've had Proposition
one that codified abortion to state constitution twenty twenty three.
We have the teenagers who are going through transition committing
suicide at the alarming rate, and so the whole transgender
ideology being shut down kids' throats, and we pass bills
where like AB one nine five five that teachers, even
(40:28):
Christian teachers, cannot notify the parents that you've got to
watch out for your son wants to change his pronoun
and it wants to go through transition. We can't even
notify them by law. And so the parental rights have
been taken away. And again just recent bill AB four
ninety five that is really legalized a child custody from
(40:49):
the parents' original parents, that anyone can just take the child.
And we're talking about human trafficking is going to take
place as a result of that, and it is so.
Human trafficking has tripled under Newsom's watch since some of
the WIG bills that he signed into law. I can
talk more about that, but it's just a problem. It's
(41:09):
a mess, and so we have to bring law and order.
We have to bring safe communities back, affordable homes, by
reducing the energy prices, by opening up the wells and
patroleum once.
Speaker 8 (41:23):
Again, you have patrolling capacity, oh my goodness, in one
county alone, we have enough natural gas and crude oil
which we need in California for the refineries to produce
enough for our whole state.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
But we're importing sixty percent of our petroleum from Saudi Arabia.
Could wait another place like that, because we don't want
to be the ones that's polluting the air.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
They can, they can pollute the air, but not but
that air never shows up on your globe exactly.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Newsom just wants a clean report guard. I'm a green
environmental less and look what we've done in California. And yeah,
the pollution that's happening, uh, just Unbelievable's.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Like Venezuela crude will import it.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
It's hypocrisy. It's just total hypocrisy.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
So the uh so, if people want to stay connected
with you, because you're really this is a populist movement
camp campaign and it's doing it with a faith based
hopefully a faith based support based So what do they
need to do?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Well, they can go to cha Chi number four for
CAA for California, Chay for CAA, and they can dot
com and they can look at my website. But I
want them to realize that I am running for governor
for all the people, not just a conservative religious right
I am a pastor over everyone in my church, Democrats, Republicans.
(42:51):
I have people of every single background and I want
to be the pastor and governor. That's why people call
me Papa che around the world. Big. I've demonstrated being
a father to the fatherless, and right now we live
in an orphan state. It's just the young males, especially,
(43:11):
They're so masculated. They just are staying home with their parents,
the smoking marijuana and just playing with their computer games.
And I just want them to get out there. I
want to empower them to get jobs. So we have
so many regulations. It's hard to start a business. We
have four hundred thousand regulations, the highest taxes. So I'm
(43:34):
going to reduce the regulations. I'm going to reduce the taxes.
I'm going to encourage people to start because people don't
realize I'm also a businessman. I've been a pastor for
forty six years, but in twenty ten I started my
own escorpate and I'm making more money as a businessman
than I'm able to turn in my salary. Three times
my salary back to the church, and anyone who knows
(43:57):
the books can attest to it. I've been doing that
for fifteen year's lance. So I want to apply the
principles I've learned in business apply it to Sacramento, because
we're now twenty billion dollars in deficit spending for this
year alone. Here's the fourth richest economy and we're twenty
billion in debt, and so we're gonna get rid of
the debt. We're gonna I'm gonna a doge everything. I'm
(44:20):
going to audit the bullet train to nowhere. We think
about it. We approved forty billion in two thousand and eight,
is up to one hundred billion now and not one
foot of track to show for it.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
All that money, all that California money. How can new
some campaign He can't.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
This is the thing. When the record goes out, I
don't care what he thinks of himself. So if I
could just say this, it's just blind ambition, and it's
it's not about we the people, it's about him. And
so he uses his position to campaign for twenty twenty
eight election. That's what he's doing right now with probably
(44:59):
in fifth Yeah, I mean, let's just be honest about that.
So we've had politicians that are absolutely self absorbed, narcissistic,
It's all about them, and it's not about me. It's
about the peoples. We the people. It is a populist movement.
I wanted to give empower people. So we have thirty
five percent of the middle class that are now living
(45:20):
in poverty, and I want to eradicate them. And so
it is the economy stupid. You know, we need to
have California affordable game.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
I got I got like around the thirty seconds left here,
But I do want to talk about who else is
running in California.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
What makes you different than them?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Well, first of all, let me just say they're all
wonderful people. I really mean that. You know, I've met
Steve Hilton, I met Sheriff Bianco. They really won what's
best for California. But I'm the only one that's signed
the Family First storm lighte Statement, which is pro life,
pro family, pro freedom, appropriate market, pro Israel. They won't
(45:55):
sign it. And this is not to cast a negative
expersion on them. They have reasons they think in California
to win the Democrats over. They probably will lose if
they signed it. But to me, I believe I win
the Conservative Democrats over because I'm an Asian immigrant. We
have fifty one percent of California or people of ethnic background.
(46:17):
And I came when I was five years old legally
obviously with my parents, and we have lived in the
American dream, and I want to give that opportunity for
every immigrant that's in California. We have over two hundred
different languages spoken just in Los Angeles alone, and so
I feel my pathway whereas all of them. And nothing
against being white male. You know, I'm not in the DEI,
(46:40):
but I saded out to all of them, and the
Democrats think that way. And so I think if they're
going to look for a Democrat, that I mean a
Republican that's common sense oriented that want to restore parential rights. Again,
seventy percent of Democratic moms wants the parental rights to
be restored and not the state to take over their kids.
(47:02):
And so I feel like I have a pathway to
convince them.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
Window I'm going to get the message out, folks. I'm
like I'm one minute over. Remember that cha for.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
C a dot com and you can find you can
keep in touch with him and follow me. Are you
on any social media?
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Also?
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yes, on my platforms. Check out my Instagram, my Facebook,
count everything.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
All right, well, thank you for being with us, Popa
Chay and I can't believe with the time went boom,
that was it, all right, I can't believe it. We'll
see you again in the next segment for Real America's
Voice and uh see you tomorrow for my main platform.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
God bless
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