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November 14, 2025 48 mins

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Segment A: The MAGA Gut Check
Segment B: The Economic Impact on Trump’s approval rating and recent elections
Segment C: The Importance of the American Working Man to Midterms
Segment D: The NJ Election Autopsy
Segment E: The GDP and Economic Conditions are NOT the same

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth
generation warfare.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
A commentator, international social media sensation and form a Navy
intelligence veteran.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Christ is king a major child pornography bust.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
State police say they need more than fifty arrests. In
just three days.

Speaker 6 (00:31):
Last week, troopers and officers arrested fifty five men and
one woman between the ages of eighteen and seventy five
years old for allegedly engaging in possession, production, and sharing
of child sexual abuse material, as well as child enticement
and other legal activity.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
My dear fellow Americans, I'm introducing a bill to completely
eliminate the H one B visa program, which has been
riddled with fraud and abuse and has been displacing American
workers for decades. There will be only be one exemption
in my bill, and it will allow for a ten
thousand per year cap on visas issued to medical professionals

(01:08):
like doctors and nurses who provide life saving care to Americans.

Speaker 7 (01:12):
That approval rating for the President, he's at a low
point of his second term. Thirty seven percent of Americans
in our poll approve of the job. Trump is doing
sixty three percent disapprove.

Speaker 8 (01:25):
Take a look at his approval.

Speaker 7 (01:26):
In this term over time. You see here he was
up hovering near fifty percent in his honeymoon after the inaugration,
and it is not going down pretty steadily. Since is
the Coastguard doing effective work in the Pacific?

Speaker 9 (01:39):
Sure?

Speaker 10 (01:40):
I mean the way the interdictions continue. The problem is
in addictions alone are not effective. You have to incentivize
this industry that these terrorists are using to flood our
country with heroin, with cocaine, fentanyl and so, and by
the way, destabilize the Caribbean in the process. In addictions,
don't interdictions have limited, no deterrent effect these drug organizations.

(02:03):
They've already baked in the fact they may lose five
percent of their drug shipments, it doesn't stop them from
coming continuing to do it. What you have seen is
an impact on drug boats. You have seen them much lesser.
You're starting to see it. It's in both the Pacific
and in the Caribbean basin. Especially in the Caribbean.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Venezuela is ordering a massive mobilization of its military as
the United States sends more of its own firepower to
the region Amante.

Speaker 11 (02:29):
We love peace. We deeply love peace. We don't want
war eir nor in any other place around the world.
But if they dare to touch Venezuela, they're going to
find us in every street.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
The announcement came after America's largest warship arrived in US
Southern Command Area of operations. That area includes most of
Latin America.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Leading gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily
here live on Real Marcus Voice. Today is November fourteenth,
twenty twenty five. Anno Domini. As many of you know,
if you're watching yesterday, I did have a step away
during President Trump's executive order signing with the First Lady.

(03:16):
They were signing an executive order on foster care. Incredible thing,
a lot of parents to step up, a lot of
abuses in that system, and.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
I certainly hope that the President's working to correct that.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I had to take care of a matter that I'm
I will be making public at the appropriate time, and
that's it's going to be the best way to put that.
So what we're really excited about though today everything's fine.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Don't worry. Everyone is fine. Don't worry that.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
We are on with Rich Barris, and he's going to
be coming on in a couple of minutes, because I
think what we do need is a gut check. It's
time for a MAGA gut check on where we're at,
where we're going, where we could be going, and and
it's time for an assessment on all of this. When
I was in the military, we would do the intelligence

(04:06):
briefings for the commanding officer, and the intelligence briefings would
always include this, and we were talking about a threat briefing,
we would say, what is the mL CoA and the
md CoA. So the mL CoA the most likely course
of action, the md CoA the most deadly course of
action or the most dangerous course of action. So we're

(04:27):
going to walk through fit a very you know, various
set of scenarios coming up, and we're going to talk
about where MAGA stands on all the issues. We're going
to talk about the most likely scenario. We're also going
to talk about the most dangerous scenario. And I really
want to get into New Jersey because people say, oh,
you know, you guys took the l Are you're going
to talk about it?

Speaker 5 (04:47):
No, we are going to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
We are going to do a thorough autopsy on New
Jersey because Jack Shittarelli, who I thought was a decent candidate,
you know, he didn't have the problems you have, the
baggage that wins Sears had down in Virginia. I thought
he was a good guy. But at the same time
didn't happen. It really didn't happen. And we have to
figure out why, because if we don't do that, and
if we don't do the work, then we can't understand

(05:10):
how to get better. If we act like we did
everything right, if we act like everything's fine when everything's not,
then we're doing a disservice to ourselves. We're doing a
disservice to the movement, and we are doing a disservice
to the country. And it's really as simple as that.
This movement is about making America great again, and it's

(05:31):
about supporting President Trump in his fight to do so.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
And that is what we're here for. That is what
we're here to do.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
But we're also here to tell the truth, okay, and
you can't do that if you don't tell the truth.
You can't be a good supporter. If you're not telling
the truth. That's what I do every day. We're gonna
tell the truth, same way we always tell the truth,
whether it's on the Iron Strikes, whether it's on Israel,
whether it is on anything that's going on. Jeffrey Epstein
did a whole episode on yesterday more than How to

(06:00):
Do It, and we went through every single email that
came out regarding President Trump. So let's go through all
the emails, see everything that came out, and we did
that political playbook, wrote us up, good for us.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
So we're here to do that today.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
So join us for the MAGA gut check. It's Jack
Pasobic Human Events Daily. We're going to have Richard Barris,
the People's Pundit, joining us.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
We're also gonna do an autopsy of the Jack Chitarelli campaign,
specifically in New Jersey, a place where many of us
were trying to reach those crossover Republican voters didn't happen.
We want to understand why it'd be right.

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Back, Welcome to the Second American Revolution.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
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cut short a little bit by President the United States,
but you know that is how it goes. And the
first Lady of the United States, Rich Barris, that People's

(08:40):
pundit joins us yet again, Rich, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Man?

Speaker 12 (08:44):
Living the dream? As always, my friend, how you doing
doing well?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
So we've been you know, you and I've been chatting
behind the scenes. We were looking at some of that
stuff with the New Jersey race. We're looking at the
president's numbers. We're talking about a lot of the polling
that's sort of been been up and down and all
over the place right now, and and and I just
wanted to get a gut sense. You know, you've been
out there, I've seen I've seen rasp Us and be

(09:09):
out there. I want to get a gut sense from you.
Where do you think? And and and as what did
Charlie say to a Tucker.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Go Max, Go Max Max? Where's maxin at right now?

Speaker 12 (09:22):
I listened to that video, by the way, and I
laughed because I mean, I'm sure you've heard Charlie say
that too, right, Look.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Ridge, I was, I was standing like three feet away
from Charlie and Megan and Tucker when I was like
over with one of one of the producers, and he
would do that too.

Speaker 12 (09:39):
I remember giving giving remarks at at a turning point
event after talking about election integrity, and I'll never forget it's.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
A pretty common it's a pretty common phrase. He always
said that.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
He did, Yeah, go Max.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Look for me, it was usually go hard. He would
be like, he'd be like, hey, go hard.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
All right, Look, this is the this is that version.

Speaker 12 (10:01):
The president is not in the same situation as Republicans,
congressional republicans, but he is at a crossroads. He's at
a pivotal point where he needs to course correct in
the message and in what people perceive his main focus
and priority is. But you know, again, I want to

(10:22):
put this in context. He is not in a terrible situation.
Our latest polling has him met about forty five percent
approval that was out at the end of October. We're
still tracking right now. He hasn't fallen below forty three.
But if you look inside the numbers, which is why
we call the show inside the numbers, there is there
are cracks in the coalition that should be addressed, and

(10:42):
there's nothing wrong with pointing those out and saying, look,
this is what this government's all about. When somebody has grievance,
you have to pay attention to them and try to
get to the heart of what that is. And young
voters over I would say the last three months and
party really, Jack, this started in July.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I mean, we could isolate this easily. At the time.

Speaker 12 (11:04):
We did try to speak up, you know, and say, look,
this is problematic.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
The president is beloved by a lot of people.

Speaker 12 (11:13):
And then there are there are voters and this coalition
that are relatively new and so the task for Republicans
was to get those voters into the coalition to complete
that realignment.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
So when you see an issue with some of those voters.

Speaker 12 (11:30):
You have to address it right otherwise you're not going
to complete the realignment. And that is what that's what
this race is all about. This has been a decade
long race, Jack, to complete a realignment before the Democratic
Party completes theirs and the Democrats are they lost in
twenty four but their base is now more defined and
more clear what's going on in the administration.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And you know, with the debates that have been happening
on the right is a product of this right.

Speaker 12 (11:56):
You have a part of the coalition that everybody wants
to prioritize what they think is more important. But there
are those younger voters especially and independence especially who really
want to see more focus on the economy at home.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
They're not interventionists.

Speaker 12 (12:11):
They were deeply disturbed about any kind of military action
over the summer that was going to They were fearing
would distract the administration from doing from focusing on the
more America at first, American at home agenda.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
And that's where we're at now.

Speaker 12 (12:27):
I mean where it's been months and we're at a
key time before the holidays where there has to be
a course correction here.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
That's the truth.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
So when you say course correction, what are the groups
than where where Trump's numbers need to go up?

Speaker 12 (12:45):
In what you're seeing, So immediately the immediately eighteen to
twenty nine year olds, thirty to thirty nine isn't as bad,
but you can start to see that as well. And
then Independence, So I mean, I'm always focused on age
because the signal is so strong with by age group,
by age buckets, they are not at all interested in

(13:07):
foreign policy. So last month we began to ask these questions,
and since July we have been asking about what they
think the US role should be and how much focus
they should put on domestic items versus the foreign And honestly, Jack,
these younger voters have been saying, look where our inheritance
has been squandered.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
We're in trouble at home, and we.

Speaker 12 (13:26):
Want a ninety ten split or one hundred zero split,
focus on what the country that we will have when all,
you know, when others who have had a much easier
go at it and have been able to enjoy the
peace dividends that they have never had, they are concerned
about their future and their financial stability and the ability

(13:48):
to rease a family in this environment or in the
future environment which is seen as kind of dire, and
they want that to be given the same, you know,
as much concern as they have, they want their representatives
to reflect the concern that they have, their energy to
reflect that concern. And it's definitely, I mean, the eighteen
to twenty nine is the most crucial, But it is
more than that, Jack, We're talking about under fifty all together.

(14:10):
Under the boomers are good, you know, fifteen above, they're good.
They think everything's fine, or at least most of them.
But everyone under fifty has a lot of concern.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
And one of the things that I'm seeing in one
of the reads that we're obviously getting out of the
twenty twenty five elections we saw in New York, New Jersey,
Virginia is economic conditions. And you know, the obviously the
common way of putting that is cost of living.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
The cost of living is you know, and you know,
we can talk about talk about all day long.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
We talk about, you know, President's efforts to fight for this,
but it really does seem like when you go to
these polls and when I talk to people that they
seem to be saying that the cost of living and
the optics surrounding the prioritization of cost of living are
something or responding.

Speaker 12 (15:00):
To this is what I would tell the administration is
that sometimes it's not even what you know, what the
achievements you're making, or how the big Beautiful Bill had
a lot of obviously had a lot of items in
there directed at that. But it's the focus, it's the
optics of it, right, and the overwhelming perception is that

(15:21):
since July, particularly when first it was the Epstein stuff
and that caused a little bit of a shake jack,
you know, with younger voters, that made them very suspicious.
But then if if there was a pivot, and that
pivot would have been you know, optic wise focused on
the domestic and their issues that they cared about, we
wouldn't be here right now.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
But instead the administration didn't do that.

Speaker 12 (15:42):
They got surrounded by a bunch of neocon pressure to
deal with Israel's problems, Ukraine's problems. And of course he's
the president, you and I know he has to deal
right with foreign policy.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
It's a big part of the presidency.

Speaker 12 (15:56):
But it's about how much it looks like a president
is concerned about that versus what they're concerned about at home.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
And when you I.

Speaker 12 (16:05):
Mean, honestly, anyone can go to the White House schedule
and go look at the last three months and you
can't argue with the voters. They're right, there has been
more of a priority on that, and they are you know,
a lot of people make this mistake.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
The Biden administration did it too.

Speaker 12 (16:18):
They tried to basically tell people everything is fine, We've
done a lot for you, you just haven't seen it yet.
That just doesn't work, you know, I mean it doesn't.
Obama did it to two percent is a new normal.
What's wrong with you? Get on with your life. For
the work, for the professional class and for the older
older boomers and beyond and super seniors, they're doing all right,

(16:39):
but the rest of the rest of the voters are not,
and they don't feel it. So even just the appearance
that they are the priority would go a long way,
and they didn't. They haven't been getting that, if we're
all being honest, they have not been getting that.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
So I mean that's what has to change.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
And by the way, that's why it's because of that sUAS.
That's the context whereby in when you know we've seen
this backlash to the h one b comments, that's where
the backlash comes from.

Speaker 12 (17:08):
Yes, And I do think that a lot of people
on the right who are very passionate about their support
for Israel also don't realize that some of these issues
are just being you they're just pressure points, right, And
I think it could have been any other conflict, Jack.
I mean, it could have been South Korea, it could
have been Taiwan, it could have been any other point

(17:30):
on the map, and it still would have led to
this backlash that.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
That we have seen.

Speaker 12 (17:36):
I do think probably, you know, the way, not probably
the way that the you know, the pro Israel more
interventionist wing of the party, the way they handled it
was the absolute worst way to handle it, because again
you have to realize a lot of these people are
new members of the coalition. But for people who think, well,
they're new and you know, they got only they got

(17:57):
to do their time, that's ridiculous. They are the younger,
less white, more diverse, They are the future, right, So
you're cow toowing to uh, you're cow towing and letting
this group of older, you know, the past, browbeat the
younger part of your coalition, which is your future and
the way the path to your victories, your future victories.

(18:19):
You're letting them browbeat them. And here's something that I
think people really need to understand. Sometimes I forget to
put it up daily, but I try to remember to
put it up daily.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
The Republican Party is.

Speaker 12 (18:29):
America first now by majority, overwhelmingly because of these voters
vote the older that you, the older the age bucket,
the more split Republican voters are between America First identification
and traditional Republican identification.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's overwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
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Speaker 8 (19:01):
You know that you talk about influencers. These are influences
and they're friends of mine. Jack Jack's breakdown.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
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Speaker 5 (20:41):
So Rich.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
We're on with Rich Barris here Human Events, the People's pundit. Rich,
you were talking about how the president is at an
inflection point. You were talking about how there's really been
this huge drop off with gen Z voters. You've talked
about how there's a way to you know, there are
ways to pivot on and really talking about how it

(21:02):
seems as almost though that foreign policy has taken the
driver's seat and taken the front row while the backseat
are given to domestic policy issues, and how this.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Isn't always necessarily.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Mean that the you know, the White House isn't doing
it anything, but it does mean it's an optics thing.
When the president goes overseas and the president's receiving a
foreign dignitary, it just seems like that's where his focus
is at because that's what people see, that's what they perceive,
and so you know, attention is influenced, so it seems
like that's where the influence is.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
If you were talking to the White House, are what
are some of the things.

Speaker 12 (21:42):
That you would say, go on a tour, go on
a tour, go on a manufacturing tour, go on to
America restoration tour, all right, something like that brand it,
something to that effect. Gear the messaging towards people who
are fifty.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
In under in this country.

Speaker 12 (22:00):
BacT of the matter is the numbers haven't moved all
that much with those who are fifty and above. This
is coming from core working voters, and the reason why
is very clear as far as I know, we're the first,
not as far as I know I'm being I'm trying
to be funny and facetious here. We are the first
Polster for years now to start to ask Republicans what
they identify as and what they want prioritized by their leaders.

(22:24):
And if you look at and we put this data out,
we have been for years now.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Jack, If you look at.

Speaker 12 (22:29):
It, you will see that the future of the Republican Party,
if they have one, is one hundred percent built.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
It has to be built around America First.

Speaker 12 (22:41):
Older voters are equally basically aligned between traditional Republicans and
those who identify more with the America First. To general,
they call themselves America First Republicans, but under fifty it explodes.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Prime working age people.

Speaker 12 (22:55):
Thirty to forty four are the most likely, it's over
two thirds majority, to say they're America First. And the
younger generations you can see, are getting more America First
the younger they get. So look, this is a matter
of numbers and demographic trends.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
You cannot give even if it's optics.

Speaker 12 (23:15):
You cannot appear to be giving more of your attention
to the issues that people who honestly won't be much
of a political factor in ten years. Tops you cannot
be giving them all your attention if you want to
build a durable, long lasting coalition. And ironically, Jack, we've
also asked this question now for a while. It's like
the perceived focus that the Trump administration has been giving.

(23:36):
Do you think that they give too much focus on
foreign policy verus domestic policy, too much focus on domestic
policy versus foreign policy, or the third option is about right.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
It's obvious. It's very clear.

Speaker 12 (23:49):
If you look at those who are above the age
of sixty five and above, they are about split, and
they say the largest pool of them will say that
it's about right. The Trump administration is splitting their time
and everybody else. And it's an overwhelming majority of all
voters because of this, and then obviously of the age
buckets below everybody else, it's overwhelming majorities that say they

(24:13):
are focused too much on foreign policy. And again, the
younger you get, So if it's you know, the thirty
to forty five, the you know, and we also do
age details, so you could look at it from eighteen
to twenty four, twenty five to twenty nine, thirty to
thirty nine, forty to forty nine.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
It's very clear. It's a very textbook, a very textbook.

Speaker 12 (24:33):
Age signal where you can see that the younger you are,
the more likely you are to say that they want
they think the President and the administration are too focused
on foreign stuff. They want more attention at home and
their own problems. And I mean again, honestly, if you
look at the I mean the president has to hold
you know that, hey has to host foreign dignitaries, he's

(24:54):
got to make foreign trips. But it's a matter of
how you're splitting your time. It's it's the opt of course,
and we're using this word. But the truth of the
matter is the voters are right. It's demonstrably true that
over the last three months you can look at the
schedule that the White House has given much more weight,
much more time. And then when you look at congressional Republicans,

(25:14):
here's the real danger. The entire nine months, last nine months,
the number one priority, the number one goal for the
Republican Party in Congress specifically, was to convince voters that
they were more like Trump, that they were going to
rebrand themselves as the Party of America.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
First, if they wanted to hold on to these new non.

Speaker 12 (25:35):
White voting coalitions, younger voting coalitions. They had to do
that because the truth is, these new Trump voters don't
really like the Republican Party all of that much at all.
They don't identify as conservatives. In fact, we're at a
historic low for overall identification as conservative, and it is
the it's obviously worse. It's the lowest the younger you go.

(25:56):
And Republicans just didn't do that, Jack, they did. I mean,
that's just a fact. So in order for them to
fix this, they're going to have to do something that
is relatively historic. They're going to have to break their
tradition of after the holidays, you know, shifting into campaign
mode being risk adverse, not wanting to take on aggressive
agenda items. They're going to have to put that aside.

(26:18):
And that's the way DC works, and I understand that.
But their window to rebrand themselves has closed. They literally
have to reopen it now because any any course correction
the White House makes is probably not going to trickle
down to them. In the generic ballad that Vose voters
are just going to continue to see Donald Trump as
differently than the Republican Party and that's going to hurt

(26:41):
them in the midterms badly, badly.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Well, I think that's right. I think it's exactly right.

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Speaker 1 (28:38):
Right, back on Rich Baris Rich. I gotta ask you, man,
and you're someone who knows the state even better than me.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
We got to talk about New Jersey because the Jack
Chitarelli campaign, and I was remiss. I did not have
the people's punted on before we went. We we you know,
went into that that state. We fought the good fight,
but nobody saw Mikey Cheryl coming out with a thirteen
point win. And the pollsters got this completely wrong. They

(29:07):
completely blew it. You did not release any public polling
in that case, but I would like to get your
read on it. As someone You're not from Jersey, but
you lived in Jersey for a long time.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
You understand Jersey. Walk me through what happened there.

Speaker 12 (29:24):
I and obviously you do know. I mean, we just
didn't release any public polling. But I will give I'll
try to say this because we didn't view that race
at the end to be that close. The same thing
with Virginia. But I will tell people to give pollsters,
depending on when they polled, you know, cut them a
little bit of slack here, because it really did run

(29:45):
away in the polling from Republicans in about the last
two weeks. So if somebody had pulled a little bit
before that, it could have been you know, if you
got like a Cheryl plus six or closer, it's justifiable.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
But it got away.

Speaker 12 (30:01):
And New Jersey, the Garden state, which I still have
a lot of love for, this is a great example
of the voters that you and I were just talking about. Specifically,
not so much even on the younger side, of course
that matters too, but definitely more on the non white
side of the new MAGA coalition. Donald Trump made that
state five points Jack, and it's remarkable, almost herculean task

(30:24):
when you consider that New Jersey was one only of
only two states along with Hawaii, in twenty twelve to
vote more for Barack Obama than it did in eight
And for people who don't know or don't remember, Barack
Obama won in twenty twelve by a much now or
a margin than he won in eight and he became
the first president ever to be reelected by a smaller
margin than when he was first elected. He has the

(30:46):
dubious distinction in history for that. But New Jersey actually.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Won by the way which I was talking about that,
and I was talking about how how Biden won by
a much wider margin than Obama won in twenty.

Speaker 12 (30:57):
Twelve, and that's how much of an impact the New
America First movement in that led up to twenty four
had jack not only on New Jersey but literally everywhere
around the country. And you know before maybe we didn't
talk about it before this election, but before twenty four,
you and I did speak about this. I went to
northern New Jersey and New York with my wife. We

(31:20):
were there to see her cousin get married, and we
were in a lot of the parts of the state
Passaic where this heavily.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Non white population.

Speaker 12 (31:29):
You could see the Trump supporters everywhere, and I'm not
talking about Appalachian working class Trump supporters.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
These were non whites.

Speaker 12 (31:37):
Multi racial, multi religious affiliations. It was incredible finding any
spot in where there's grass in some of the areas
in Northern Jersey with crazy, dangerous U turns still out there,
packed in and holding signs, not because it was a rally,
but because they were just there to show their support
for Donald Trump. Yet many of them still have the Democratics,

(32:01):
you know, candidates lawn signs right next to signs that
said Trump or bust voters. So when I stressed after
the election that you could have if you're the Republican Party,
you could assault the mid Atlantic. But it requires something new,
and that's not what we saw in New Jersey, for instance.
Cause let's get to the heart. So there's a lot
of things that went wrong for Republicans in New Jersey.

(32:23):
Let's get to the heart of some of them. The
prevailing view among people who were most involved or helping
Jackson Arelly in the campaign, the prevailing view is that,
you know, keep the president out of here because he's
going to drive up democratic turnout. That when I hear
things like that, ten years into this movement, it's so
frustrating and I just find and.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
By the way, I have to say it, I have
to say it, the people who were pushing that were
the Chris Christie people. It was this Chris Christie network
that's all throughout the state of New Jersey, the same
way that the McCain people. It was the same thing
that McCain people did with Kerry Lake in Arizona, where
this is this person is not from our network, this
person is not one of us, and therefore hasn't kissed.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
The ring, and therefore, you know, we're not going to
help them.

Speaker 12 (33:10):
And also they really do believe that nonsense Jack, you know,
and that's a when I hear it, it's it. It
tells me that there's still too many Republican consultants, whether
they meanwhile they or not.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
There's fans who think to stale.

Speaker 12 (33:26):
They're thinking of stale, and they don't understand, forget about
any of the intricacies. They don't understand the basics of
what of the realignment that they needed to complete.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
And the truth is, why, why why why.

Speaker 12 (33:40):
Am I saying that because Democrats now have the higher
propensity coalition, they're always going to have, especially in off
cycle in midterm races, They're always going to have a
base that is more reliable to turn out than Republicans
are going to.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
They have a smaller one, but they have that base
that's more reliable.

Speaker 12 (34:01):
It used to be, you know, back in twenty fourteen,
back in twenty ten, Republicans relied on this in order
to win midterms that they really shouldn't have won. If
all Demo, if all the voting population came out, they
would have lost those right. And Republicans have yet to
come to grips with this and the idea that you're
somehow going to Jews turn out more among the Democratic
base because Donald Trump is out there is just ignorant.

(34:23):
It means you don't understand this new world. It is
a new world, It is a new coalition, and it's
because of the realignment Donald Trump needs to be involved
in order to match the enthusiasm. Look, Democrats did not
bring Barack Obama into the urban areas, folks, because Mikey
Cheryl was in a good position three weeks before the election.
That's just bs and ridiculous. They brought Barack Obama in

(34:47):
because their polls were showing what everybody else's poles were showing,
which is that this is kind of dangerously close. We
need to bring Obama in to talk about this shutdown,
which was another big part of this. Especially in urban areas,
you had Democrats, including Brock Obama, running around saying, if
you don't vote for Mikey Cheryl, Republicans are going to
starve you out.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Look at what they're doing to you. They're keeping the
shot and the snap benefits, they are going to run out.

Speaker 12 (35:08):
And people bought it, and it's important not to, you know,
look down on those people, even if many of them
had just voted for Donald Trump. It's not you can't
blame them because they didn't get a counter message.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
They didn't see Donald.

Speaker 12 (35:23):
Who I know, by the way, the President was willing
to do in person events. Tele rallies do nothing, they
do nothing, which is why well.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
And so you and I discussed this early.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
So what a lot of people were putting the signal
out that there was going to be this this crossover
vote of Democrats voting for the Republican But are you
saying then that the crossover actually went the other way
and there were Republicans who voted for Mikey Cheryl.

Speaker 12 (35:50):
In both polling that Mark Mitchell at Rasmussen Reports did
and pulling I did, there were actually more Republicans who
were voting for Mikey Cheryl than there were Democrats voting
for Jack Chittarelly.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
And that's of the likely voter universe.

Speaker 12 (36:05):
So that goes to show you how much they failed
at turning out the universe of voters that they needed to.
And I hear people say things like, but we got
more votes than we did in twenty one guys, that
is a basic minimal requirement. You shouldn't be patting yourselves
on the back for it, you, Donald Trump, unless you
know anybody else than other than Donald Trump, who could

(36:26):
go to Wildwood, New Jersey and draw a crowd of
one hundred thousand people, then knock yourselves out.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
You can't, Donald Trump.

Speaker 12 (36:33):
Those Democrats that were in polls like the Emerson poll
right that was showing three to one crossover that actually
favored Chittarelly, they didn't vote. Those are Democrats that just
voted for Donald Trump, you know, twelve months ago.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Jack. But because Donald.

Speaker 12 (36:47):
Trump could not have gotten within five points, just for
all to dispel all the ridiculous like you know, exit
poll myths out there. Donald Trump cannot get within five
points the Kamala Harrison the state of New Jersey without
signific faking help from Democrats, and he got it.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
He also won independence overwhelmingly.

Speaker 12 (37:05):
There's just not enough Republicans in that state to even
get that level of supports. But it's it's the polling
models that were gauging that universe don't realize that that
universe is not going to be the electorate without Donald
Trump's direct involvement. I mean, it's obvious at some point

(37:26):
the Republicans have to learn to live without him.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Jack buff right now, they just simply can't.

Speaker 12 (37:30):
They just can't for people to understand the significance of
when I say he can bring one hundred thousand people
to Wildwood for everyone who was born and raised went
to school in south central Jersey. Wild Are you gonna
laugh when you hear me say this, because you know
Wildwood is not some typical Republican or wasp Republican or
silk stocking Republican town.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Trump pulled him out. He did it with He did
it with immigration and the economy.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
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Jack is a great guy, he's written.

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(39:42):
You know, we're talking about some of these things, and
you know, we want to be constructive as well.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Here that.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
You know, it really goes back to and as as
much as off the rocker as he's been, it really
does feel like it's the the old James Carville.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
It's the economy stupid.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, it's people want an And here's here's a big difference, right,
And I've been saying this online a little bit, is
we have to stop confusing the GDP for economic conditions.
We have to stop confusing the stock market for cost
of living.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
They're not the same thing.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
They're just not and and in fact they probably never
By the way, the GDP doesn't even really exist.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
It's a it's a theory.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's like an economic model, the same way that we
had climate models. That doesn't always necessarily mean that it
works out. So when when you take all that into consideration,
rich and this is something, by the way, Charlie talked
about this all the time, especially with gen Z.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
He talked about the debt bubbles.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
He talked about people taking out these micro loans, buy now,
pay later, all this stuff just to get food, just
to get door dashed, just to get uber eats.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
This is not a way to live.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
And you wonder why these people are so upset at
the system. Talk to me about the economic side of this.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
It's people need this.

Speaker 12 (41:00):
Start thinking about this as the people's perceptions of their
conditions in life, right. I mean, it's funny because you
used to foreign leaders like George Bush talk about the
human condition all around the world except for in the
United States. For once, people want their leaders to care
about their conditions, Jack, which is why when we ask

(41:23):
about our most important issues, we do a ranked distribution,
which in my opinion, is far superior than asking people
what their singular most important issue is. When we do
a rank distribution, cost of living is running running away
with it, and economy and jobs is number two, but
it's amazing how much of a distant number two it is.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Number three, by the way, is healthcare.

Speaker 12 (41:46):
So all the top three issues are about the conditions
of the economic conditions that people feel like they're living in. Right,
And while it is important, yes, that inflation at high
of nine what point two under Biden is since cooled
under Donald Trump. That's absolutely true. It's the other things are,
you know, in their lives. Healthcare costs, premiums, prescription drugs,

(42:09):
their rents, right, how much your cost the lease or
buy a vehicle if they're even able to do that,
have far out, you know, far outpaced the wages that
they're bringing in. A voter told us the other day,
and I know it's not exactly right, but this is
a voter, a leisure and hospitality voter for Trump, young
voter in Clark County in Nevada, where people don't really
know that it is. That's Vegas, and you know, the

(42:31):
tax on tips rule, you know, is convoluted with the
I R S. So they'll wind up just taking a
standard deduction and that's it. And they won't they won't
even deal with you know how you know, how whether
or not that policy can impact that can benefit them.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
So we need to you know, look at this more GDP.

Speaker 12 (42:49):
Like you said, it's totally useless to the average voter
what GDP is, and it's been the methodology has been
changed so often. Obama changed it to include his friends
in Hollywood. They're going to get a motion picture in
the next year or.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
So, Okay, throw that in GDP.

Speaker 12 (43:04):
Well, how does that help the average worker in Clark County, Florida,
I mean Clark County, Nevada. How does that help the
average worker in you know, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania. Right, it doesn't.
They don't care about that. This is about the how
they feel their life, their overall lives condition. We actually
asked that in our Economic Confidence Index, Business conditions, employment conditions. Right, income,

(43:28):
do you do you feel like in the next six
months your family income is your total family income is
going to meet you know, the the requirements of your
you know your your your economic conditions, and that will
tell you a whole lot more. And honestly, that index
plunged last month in October. It's not the lowest it's
ever been, but it is. It's the lowest it's been
in Trump's second term. And it's sad to watch this

(43:49):
because after Donald Trump was elected it hit an all
time high after being completely stagnant under Joe under Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
So you know, it's a very real thing.

Speaker 12 (43:59):
And people, you know, there's been a lot of people
out there dismissive of this stuff and pointing the traditional
indicators that you're pointing at, and it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
None of that matters.

Speaker 12 (44:09):
This is about perception and honestly, reality takes a while
to change perceptions.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
We know this. There's a lot of study, there's a
lot of research on this.

Speaker 12 (44:19):
You could have a low CPI, you know, three months
in a row, and it's going to take time for
people for that to sink in and for you know,
for people's views to change. And by the way, this
was again I'm pointing this out for a reason. This
was an electorally fatal mistake that Democrats made in the
Obama and the Biden years that would point to this

(44:41):
and they would say, look, we created this many jobs.
You just don't realize how good things are going. And
they would ignore the conditions that people felt they were
in and perception and the optics of it all. And honestly,
Mark Penn, he's a Democratic pollster. He has just saying
he's been saying this for.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
A long time. You know, you can continue with that.
But reality always wins.

Speaker 12 (45:03):
And the fact is that Republicans have to confront the
reality because it will win and they will lose.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Well.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
And this is what it comes down to, right, And
so it's optics. Okay, I've been out there a ton,
been out there a ton talking about guys throw something
out tariff, the outsourcing tarif, the remote work, and they
even said they were going to start looking at it.
By the way, people do view themselves as in a
competition with these foreign workers and when they're attacking people

(45:31):
and all the rest of it. And so you've got
to look like you're on the side of the American worker.
If you look at you're outside the American worker, then
the American worker is going.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
To support you. It's really as simple as that.

Speaker 12 (45:43):
You know, Barack Obama in his first term was actually
really good at this. You and I both know that
he did absolutely nothing to address the economic conditions following
the Great Recession, but he sure looked like he was right.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I mean, they were very.

Speaker 12 (45:59):
Good at putting on a show, and he would argue,
you know, obviously the new normal line. It got old
by the end of a second term, and that's why
Hillary Clinton, who tried to run on it, got wiped
by Donald Trump. But it did work in the beginning,
and that's a lesson Republicans should take. The American Reinvestment
Act actually hurt the economy, but it doesn't matter. They

(46:21):
weren't you know, this was the American Reinvestment Act. Don't
you see me working very hard to get you shovel
ready jobs.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
It's optics.

Speaker 12 (46:28):
And the difference here is that Donald Trump's policies actually
do have an economic benefit, right, so it doesn't have to.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
All be about optics.

Speaker 12 (46:37):
Eventually those policies will take root and people know that too,
which is a benefit that he has that others like
Barack Obama were never given. His approval rating In Obama,
I'm talking about his approval rating is to be positive
all the time. But his approval rating on the economy
was negative all the time. Trump's first term it was
the opposite. His approval on the economy was always positive,

(46:59):
but his his overall approval was negative. That's the danger
sign here, something people should be, you know, the red
siren should be going off like crazy, because if you
compare his first term to his second term in recent
recent from July on, you'll see that that now is
no longer the case.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
That is optics, all right.

Speaker 12 (47:19):
They believe that his administration, you know, by the spring
in the summer, kind of just stopped concerning themselves about
their problems, and again that this until this is addressed,
recognized and course corrected, it can only get worse. So,

(47:40):
I mean, this was something I tried to explain back
in July, and I remember a lot of people scoffing
it off and saying, oh my.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
God, he's making such big deal out of this.

Speaker 12 (47:50):
Then his it's only slightly negative, and the headline and
the press release even said slightly negative.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
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