June 26, 2025 • 49 mins
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Segment A: CHINESE VIROLOGIST AND COVID WHISTLEBLOWER SOUNDS ALARM OVER POSSIBLE CHINESE AGRO-TERRORISM EFFORTS
Segment B: FARMERS EXPLAIN HOW FRAGILE OUR FOOD SUPPLY REALLY IS
Segment C: CONGRESSWOMAN MARY MILLER DISCUSSES WHAT CONGRESS CAN DO TO STOP AGROTERROR
Segment D: THE AUTHOR OF "THE COMING FAMINE" SPEAKS OUT
Segment E: HOW VULNERABLE IS THE AMERICAN FOOD SUPPLY?
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Go check that out. All right, folks. A lot of news.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Today's Supreme Court issuing a major, major ruling affirming that
states have the right to reject planned parenthood from Medicaid.
That will be followed in a couple weeks by a
vote in Congress to potentially defund planned parent at the
federal level. Now, normally we dig a deep dive in
the headlines, but today we're going to do something different.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Amanda, We'll be back tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'm going to team up today with the great Steve Gruber,
my colleague here at Real America's Voice. We want to
tackle a topic that you probably don't know much about,
probably just started hearing about a couple weeks ago, but
it is a serious, serious problem, the threat, the growing
threat of agroterrorism. You know about the three Michigan scientists
hall from China. Three Chinese scientists working in the United
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States in Michigan at the University of Michigan being arrested,
bringing in deadly pathogency the United States. You know about
the story we broke earlier this week on the show.
A thousand scientists have been brought into this country from
hostile nations like China, working at the NIH They weren't
properly vetted. Now we're scrambling under the Trump administration to
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vet them. The potential for a famine causing or food
disrupting as act is higher than it's ever been. In Tonight,
we're going to bring you into the real world, including
introducing you to a defector from the Chinese scientific community,
doctor Lee Mengnen. You'll may be amazed by her story
and what she says China is plotting and planning. She
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knows she worked for them. But before we get to
all that, let me bring in my amazing co host
for the Evening, the one the Only, Steve Goover, Steve,
good to have you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm good to be teaming up with you tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
John good to see it. Glad to be here, my friend.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Listen, this is such a great idea. I know you
came up with this idea. I'm so excited. I don't
think six months ago people were thinking, boy, I have
to worry about famine in the United States because some
roundworm or some pathogen is going to get released and
I could wipe out our crops. And then these three
scientists get picked up. We're all a little bit more
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aware of things now.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, as you mentioned off the top, so many headlines.
I mean, the news cycle is intense these days, to
say the least.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Donald Trump doesn't sow down.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
You've got the you've got the economy, You've got the
Supreme Court, you've got the Warner run. And we're missing
the point that maybe one of the biggest stories is
right under our noses.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Our food supply is vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's vulnerable to the Chinese Communist Party, it's vulnerable to
the scientists at NIH that you just mentioned. It's vulnerable
because we haven't been paying close.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Enough attention to John, and we really need.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
To because if they can destroy the crops, they can
destroy America without ever firing a shot.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And by the way, that is the Chinese playbook. They
don't want a kinetic war. They want to feed us
through these alternative means. I want to ask real Cookie
before we get to our first guests. You're at ground
zero for where this story broke a few weeks ago.
What has been the reaction in Michigan to realize that
they had these scientists smuggling in these dangerous pathogens.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, as you can imagine, people like Governor Whimer say nothing.
Of course, she has encouraged Chinese investment in Michigan with
these big battery plants and any things that are very
controversial for the farmers on the ground. Though we'll hear
from them just a few minutes. They take it very seriously.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
They know how vulnerable they are.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
They know if they can't defend against a fungus or
a bacteria or another pathogen, not only will it shut
down and destroy their farms. Once it gets up into
the jet stream, up into the air, these things spread.
It may take a month or two or a year,
but by the time it spreads, we're in real trouble,
and by that point it could be too late.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, that's right. Most of these are airborne.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They move the wind, can move them from one location
to another, and all of a sudden, you have an
outbreak all across this country. It's really scary stuff. I'm
really excited about our first guest. She first blew the
whistle back in January or assume me in the summer
of twenty twenty, when she defected the United States and
told us that just like we now know that the
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COVID virus was in fact man made and leaked from
Muhan virus.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But today she is.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sounding the alarm about China's larger intentions with our food supply.
Take a look at this incredible interview we did earlier
this week with doctor Lee Meng. Yeah, all right, joining
us now a person. It was on the front lines
of China's bio research, Chinese biologists and coronavirus. What's the more,
doctor Leminghan. Doctor, good to have you on the show.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Thank you, John, Thank you for having me again.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's a great honor. I want to start with a question.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think a lot of Americans have, which is, why
does China have research that tries to make viruses more
deadly like the coronaviruses that escape from the Wuhan lab,
And why is it that their researchers are now trying
to bring in pathogency the United States that have the
potential to do great harm to our crowns. What's the intention?
What does it's China doing this for the good of
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science or do they have a more malicious intent?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Ah Hi, John, These are a very good question. And
since I reviewed the COVID nineteen origin, I keep telling
people that I come from that regime. I know what
they're doing, and I can tell you for sure that
why is the folks on file weapons about heroism? Because
according to ccap's doctrine, they believe that bile weapons are
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a poor people's nuclear weapons, so they treat it as
the alternative form of the nuclear weapons with the more cost.
And it's very easy to manipulate the passagings. So you
say that during COVID nineteen and they release the weaponize
COVID nineteen from Uhan to the United States and coust
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over millions of deaths, and the treatise of US and
Also now we say just within several weeks this year,
the FBI have caught the SAP agents pretending to be
the researchers smuggling the dadly fungus and also the round
the worms, which can cause about security threats to the
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agriculture and human and animals in the US. Through your
custom and also more importantly, you will say that these researchers,
they have their laps in the US. For example, in
these two cases, the laps in the based in the
University of Michigan could help them to do this kind
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of work. And if you do more research, you will
see that CCPs infiltration deeply rooted in the University of Michigan,
like how they routed in Harvard, Johns, Hopkins and other
US universities, so China could pay very little cost like
some funding. Some researchers provide materials and working with CCPs
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esponages and also pro CCP campaigns in the US to
gain your high technology, gain your taxpayers money, gain your resources,
and make these weaponized passages to create damage to the US.
Because here is the answer of your question that the
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US Americans are the primary enemy for communist China. For
the CCP from the beginning when CCP was established.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You know, China is at war with America, even though
America may not realize the doctor they're targeting us when
we're sitting here complacent too often. I read one of
your articles here recently about how they're targeting using quote
unquote innocent students to hide under that umbrella.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
They introduced not.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Just fungus and ring worm and round worm like they
did the University of Michigan, but using genetic modification to
alter plants, insects to destroy plants, viruses, bacteria, fungus, and
other path leigiens to destroy plants and food shortages. That's
the ultimate goal here, because if you can take the
food away from somebody, you can certainly weaken America from
the inside.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Is that what you're seeing? Oh?
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Yes, sound was I quote?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Here is an exacting word from people's viperational armies textbook.
This textbook named the Biosecurity and it was published as
an early off Shijen King's regime. Around twenty fourteen. I
read a food textbook and this is not the only
textbook talking about how you weapons nice passages and under
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these kind of fancy words about security it clearly mentioned
that about weapon targeting both human and also agriculture is
the best one because I mean either human or agriculture
or both, because not I may target the enemy but
also target their food supply chain. Like for example, China
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try to convince you that COVID nineteen can spread through
the code chain because they want to also control the
colde chain. Then that is the very important part of
your food supply chain right right. And now you see
the founders and the round the wolves, both of these
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can hurt human, animal and agriculture. So why China purchase
a lot of friends in the US near the military. Yes,
that can be used as military espionage, but also like
for example the very famous case the full Phone Group
purchased the land and near the Nosta Kota military base,
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they also want use that to make up about rorism
and about at text in the unrestricted warfare. Because if
you check the full Phone Group's background, that agriculture company,
they have the military savile fusion projects working with Cepiece
leading by weapon General Jandre full from Academy of Military
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Medical and Science who's also the leading experts in developing
COVID nineteen virus.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Doctor, I want to talk about the experience you have.
You come to the United States, you blow the whistle
on COVID nineteen, you say it's most likely genetically created
in a lab, and the scientific community sails you any
way possible. But it turns out from reporting we did
the last few weeks that the DEIA came to the
exact same conclusion as you in early twenty twenty as
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well behind the scenes where you talking to US intelligency FBI,
and were they taking your concerns seriously even as a
scientific community trying to silence you.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I want to tell you that first, I know this
is true when I provide that, so I'm always confident
about that. I know one day, even after one hundred years,
that will be verified. And I provide this information to
American government agencies and for example FBI, and I can
tell you that's why FBI was among the few intelligence
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agencies back to Biden administration telling that this is from
the Colinineen's from the Chinese lab. At that time, most
of intelligence agencies that, oh, as I don't know, or
it comes from the nature. So that shows how crapt,
how compromised these American scientists and some of the intelligence
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agencies are anyway, I want to say that there are
some buireoucritical things always happened in your government and agencies.
I hope that can be improved, but I won't say that.
We have more evidence not only about the COVID nineteen origin,
but also during the past five years accumulated from our
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exclusive sources around CIGP and inside SAYCAP talking about not
only the COVID nineteen, and there are more similar foule
weapon projects going on, and also there are more unrestricted
warfare tactics going on. Some of them are very evil
strategy and all of their targets are Americans. So the
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one destroy you. They are your number one enemy for
your life and your future.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I think the whole here is maybe there's a different
day when it comes to the intel.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Community here in America.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I say that because cashpital support smuggling and non aggrotaris
agent into the US not just a violation of law,
a direct threat to national security. So they're watching closer
than they have for the last four years. But you
also make a tie to all the money that flows
to American universities.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
University Michigan fifty four million dollars, and I.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Think if we go around this country, you'll find other
universities have the benefit of an open checkbook from the
CCP AD buys a lot of cooperation and a lot
of people looking the other way when.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
These sorts of things are going on. That would be
my assumption.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
What say you, Oh, I would say that I work
at the University of Hong Kong and previous ized studying
the top Chinese medical universities, and I can tell you
that people who have the very good academic knowledge doesn't
mean they are all the nice people. Actually, a lot
of them are very greedy and the easy it can
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be bought. So China knows that. That's why they put
the money to universities into US and bring these professors
or experts to the China to get the collaboration, and
then they compromise them. If someone among them cannot be compromised,
then China will use the national power to isolate to
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silence these people. So that's why back to twenty fourteen,
when the US experts believe that gain of function should
be stopped. After several years around two thousand and seventeen
to twenty eighteen, most of expert in the Council A
reject gain of function, removed, and then the new expert
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involved into the council again support gain of function. So
that's the change, and show you how China, if you
give them time, they could use very little money compared
to your taxpayers money compared to the government income. They
use very little part to buy the scientists, the expert,
the media and then make them working in favor of
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trans Communist Party and harm Americans. So of course there
must be more all that and other kind of regulation,
kind of countermagers, intelligence countermagers, because this is related to
your national security, and previously you'll give too many opportunities
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to China.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, Wall, it's got about a minute left.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Doctor. I want to ask one quick question. That is,
we had a story earlier this week. Hundreds of Chinese
scientists have been brought here on visas by the National
Institutes of Health. Is there any reason to believe that
they're not here working for the interests of the Chinese
Communist government on these programs you just talked about.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You mean the scientist getting visa, scientists getting visa from
China to the US. They are visiting scholars. They have
sunned the contract with Chinese government to go back to China,
serve for China with whatever they can get from the US.
That's why they get visa from Chinese government. So from
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the beginning they already made the deal with CICAP and
become CCAPS kind of agents. So China has these people
come here, grab your intellectual properties, grab your technologies, compromise
your people. And that is like the tumor, like the parasites,
go to your body, go to your country. So China
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use these people, and that is China's national strategy. So
you ask Gum and must treat it as anti kind
of hopsas national threats. Yeah, not only individual cases.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah so well, soome doctor, you took the courage to
you made the courage to actually.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Go flow the whist on what China was doing.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Our scientific community impuned you for a while, but history
has shown you told us the truth and now the
rest of the American government agrees with you. A great
honor to have you on the show. Tay, thank you
so much for joining us.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Thank you see your next time.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yes, what a great conversation. What an extraordinary woman.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
All right, folks, we're going to take a quick comercial
break when we come back. A lot more very important
topic of agroterrorism.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
That I think it's message all right, welcome back now.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Over the last couple of.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Weeks, I've traveled to speak with real farmers in their
fields to ask about what they think about the dangers
of agroterrorism. And I've got to say, what they told
me about the fragility of our food.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Supply will give you pause.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
The problem with Americans is they look at war as
a binary question. Most believer either ad war with another
country or we're not. It seems they've lost the concept
of the Cold War that lasts from the waning days
of World War Two until the waiting days of the
Reagan Bush era.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
In nineteen ninety one and ninety two, mister garbaschofv teared
down this wall.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
The Chinese, however, know perfectly well they are war with
the United States and they are executing that war every
single day. They deliver attacks on high tech targets, steel,
intellectual property, plant moles in the private sector, academia, and
the highest levels of government.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
We've written the cyber.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Attacks as the FBI and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency
SISA have highlighted Chinese operations targeting US tech companies, universities
and government agencies too. Intellectual theft, according to numerous estimates,
could be six hundred billion dollars a year, and espionage
is ongoing. Highlight of a case is like the twenty
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twenty arrest of a Chinese military officer posing as a
US college student.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And those are just some easy examples.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Chinese warfare in America is ubiquitous and unless we wake
up and soon, they could win this war because they're
fighting on battlefields we don't know exists, or at least
don't pay attention to. And one of the most disturbing
is unfolding in the nation's hardlands.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
Bioterrorism by a warfare, yes, warfare, warfare without fire and shot.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Mark Benjamin is a sixth generation farmer in southern Michigan.
The Stanley began feeding the nation sometime around eighteen eighty
and his forefathers and mothers.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Have been turning this ground ever since.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
They faced a Great depression, floods, droughts, and tornadoes as well.
But Mark says the recent arrest of several Chinese students
from the University of Michigan carrying fungus designed to attack corn, beans, wheat,
and rice is an all new threat and one that
he takes quite seriously. From what you've read, from what
you've figured out, an enhanced fungus that maybe is fung
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just side resistant, and that's what you're reading.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What would it mean? What could it mean?
Speaker 9 (19:45):
Right now, we can treat the diseases on wheat and
corn with.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
The fungus side, but the stuff.
Speaker 9 (19:52):
The third person snuck into the US is stuff that
they can use to make the disease resist to our
fungus sides.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
What would that mean? That would mean that.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Easily wipe out half the crop half half easy? If
it's on wheat right now, every year we're dealing with it.
Even sometimes when it's treated for it, you'll still get
docked if the wheat has too much vomitox in it.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
If you look around, you know, wheat, corn beans, whatever
field you look at, if the United States lost half
of its crop, because once it was here, the fungus
spreads naturally, doesn't It just gets in the air and
it goes.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Yeah, it's airborne, and of course it could be spread
intentionally anywhere. And when you get the right weather conditions
with the right amount of rain and the winds, it'll spread.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
If America lost half of its crop, what would that mean.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
If the fungus was to be enhanced so it's or potent,
and then also enhanced so we can't control a fungicides,
and when it was half a crop for a couple
of years, then you're starting to talk about massive world starvation.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
That's right, Famine like America has never known because from
the first days of Europeans settling this nation, there's always
been farmland, and not just ordinary farmland, but the most
productive land in the world.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And for the last one hundred and.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
Fifty years, America and the American farmers have fed the world.
In fact, America is currently exports about twenty five percent
of its grain production annually. The impact of an agricultural
failure here would be felt around the world, especially in
areas where food and security is already an issue like
Sub Saharan Africa.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
Back Roads like this have been the backbone of America
from the beginning of this country. Farms, farmland, they've fed
a nation. In fact, we've fed the world. But now
farmers here in places like.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
This, they're worried.
Speaker 10 (21:58):
They're worried that their livestile being taken away.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Their farms are going bankrupt and.
Speaker 10 (22:02):
They're not being targeted by China, and they're worried because
they know how ruthless China can be, especially when it
comes to things like bioterrorism.
Speaker 11 (22:11):
If they're willing to sneak in fungus now, and they're
probably snuck in fungus before, or any other pest or
any other genetics, we're catching them already. We can expect
them to ramp it up, you know, especially as world
tensions they're escalating. They're going to use any method they
can find to mess with us and give themselves an
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advantage over us.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And if they starve us to death, they probably don't care,
do they. No, they don't care.
Speaker 11 (22:37):
And that's where we need to rely on our politicians
and government to help prevent it.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Alex Clark is another family farmer who's deeply concerned about
what he sees on the news and reads in the headlines,
and he's frustrated because to him, Washington is very slow
to react to the clear and emerging threat of bioterror
and using weapons as simple as enhanced fungus to take
down the nation. Instead of banning China for owning American farmland,
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reduction facilities and even seed companies. Washington remains silent, placated
by lobbyists, and a whole lot of Chinese money does
not value.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I mean, here you are are fourth generation family farm. Honestly,
China shows up.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
They buy the seed company, that buy the meatpacking company.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
They send their scientists here to steal intellectual property.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
When we make advancements at Michigan State or Texas A
and m or Ohio State or wherever it is, they
either buy their way in or sneak their way in.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
It's upsetting because for like my brother and I, we're
relatively small operation. We don't have any control over what
China is doing what We don't have any control over
what they're doing in Chicago or Toledo in terms of prices.
So we're kind of at the mercy of our country
and we're competing with these Chinese you know, actors that
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are most.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Likely manipulating them all.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
We know they maynipulate the markets with you know, dipping
into served classes or changing their imports and exports and
affects you know, directly every day, directly and indirectly every day.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
So what if what if China took the next step
to destroy American crops.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
What would that mean?
Speaker 8 (24:17):
Well, according to Mark Benjamin, the damage would be far
worse than hunger and breadlines.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
He believes it could destroy the nation altogether.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
You take out the US economy. How farms fail, you
have massive bank problems. If the US agriculture is hit
with US Okay, farms fail. Average house in the USA,
fifty eight thousand dollars of somebody's mortgage is just for
the land the house is sitting on. You whip out
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US farms, land values crash to practically nothing all of
a sudden, overnight, housing mortgages are upside down because the
land is citting on that costs fifty eight thousand dollars
is now worth one two thousand dollars. And then that's
a problem for all the banks and going to go
back to the same housing crisis with mortgage crisis we
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had ten fifteen years ago. And then the US is
spending all what's money to try to keep that afloat,
and we're no longer able to invest in defense.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
So China brings in a fungus, creates an agricultural failure,
creates a failure of farms, creates a crash in the
price of land, creates a bank panic, creates a default
by the federal government.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Is that about right? One domino after another? Yes?
Speaker 8 (25:37):
So are we at war? It's pretty clear we are.
It's pretty clear that China has been targeting us on
every level, from supply chains to the energy grid and
now our food. And if you can take out the
food supply, as you've now heard, you can bring down
the entire nation. Like Mark said, you could do it
without firing a shot. Is it an active war? It's
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an active war.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
So what will it take for Americans to recognize the
clear and present danger that is China?
Speaker 8 (26:07):
And what will Washington do to protect our farms from
being destroyed by pests delivered potentially? The bottom line is
this targeting American agriculture is just another strategy and the
Chinese approach of asymmetrical warfare designed to weaken America from
the inside out, and you lasting damage to us economically, socially,
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and politically.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
An act of war without firing a shot. Pretty frightening, right,
But we're going to stay on top of the destroy
because if you've just seen what a foreign power could
do to our food supply with very little effort, I
might add, it's incredibly dangerous and the government needs to
start doing more to protect us. Right now, we'll have
more for you after the break. Staying right there, welcome
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back to this special report. John Solomon and I looking
into a topic tonight that isn't often discussed but should be.
We're talking about America's food supply, how fragile it really is.
And we've got a good reminder of that after the
FBI announced they had arrested two Chinese scientists were struggling
a toxic fungus into my home state of Michigan. A
third has now been arrested. So do we have the
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place in place the safeguards we need joining us now?
Someone who can help answer that act. She represents the
great state of Illinois is on the House Agriculture Committee,
Congresswoman Mary Miller.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Congress Woman, thank you for being here, Thank you for
having me.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
Also, my husband and I farm in central Illinois, so
I can tell you as a representative from the AG community,
and then being on the Ag Committee, that having open
borders as a concern for us in light of agriterrorism,
and you know here we are. We've got proof sure
and one thing I don't want people to do is
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to forget the damage that Joe Biden did when he
opened up the border.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Never forget.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
How concern were you a congressman when you heard about
these University of Michigan students coming in.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I mean, where you live is the heart of corn country.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
It's corn, it's beans, it's wheat, It's along the Mississippi River,
a huge part of central Illinois. It would destroy American farms,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 12 (28:32):
Yes, Well, this is this particular case is some kind
of fungus that would cause a blight in grains such
as wheat and barley, but it also causes illness in humans.
But we let so many people in Joe Biden basically
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advertise and incentivize the invasion. But we know that tens
of thousands of Chinese nationals walked across the border. So
not only those that we let in and gave them
student visas and they're on our campuses doing supposed research,
we have all these other ones that walked in. It's
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a terrible problem because China is our enemy. They've infiltrated
all of our institutions. They are not to be trusted.
And you know, we need to backtrack on who's here
and what their intentions are.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, congresswomen, We had a story the other day on
Justin News confirming that the Trump administration is investigating more
than a thousand NIH researchers who were given visas from
the NIH, but they hail from countries that are called
countries have concerned those who are hostile to the United States.
China is the largest portion of that thousand. The reason
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that investigation was launched. These scientists apparently weren't properly vetted
when they were first let in. Congress has a lot
of oversight capabilities. Is is this an agency and I
set maybe needs to be reined in a little bit.
Speaker 12 (30:04):
Absolutely, And the American people want to know who's coming
here and why the whole world wants to come here.
We should be choosy about who's coming and where they're
coming from. And they need to be properly vetted. You know,
under the Biden administration, even the people that came during
the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, that many of them were not
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properly vetted. So we need to backtrack and go back
and find out who's here and do proper vetting on them.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, when it comes time to do that vetting and
looking for answers condres. And my question is is, look,
there's a lot of money behind this, a lot of
money being pumped in by the CCP into academia, into
agricultural companies. China controls meatpacking plans like Smithfield, they control Syngenta,
which is a seed company. I mean, they've got their
tentacles into all these different areas of agriculture, and I just.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Feel like it's the wild West. Let's say you.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
It's a national security issue, and I'm glad that we
have someone President Trump at the top that loves our
country and cares and recognizes it and has the courage
to not only speak out against it, but to stand
up against it. And we need to halt immigration and
student visas from China definitely, as well as many other
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countries that our known enemies.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, kinuswoman, the Committee's been very business this year, and
for the first time in a long time, farmers are
getting some of the policy attention they were denied under
a Democratic Congress, democratic president. What are some of the
most important initiatives in your committee right now looking to
aim to protect the food supply, grow the food supply,
make sure that we don't have an artificially caused famine
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because of one of our enemies.
Speaker 12 (31:48):
Well, I mean, the borders have to be secured, and
like I said, we need to go back and do
a like a backtracking on our vetting process for the
student visas, especially in the like we have a land
grant university at the University of Illinois and we have
a lot of Chinese nationals there on student visas, and
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we need to backtrack on that vetting process. But a
lot of important things coming up for that ag community.
The farmers are hurting big time because of four years
of out of control inflation and then passive trade policy,
and right now we're looking at blow blow break even
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prices for our grain. It's a serious issue. We got
to be there to support our producers and the American
people don't want corporate ag taking over our food supply.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
We've had that in the protein processing. You brought it up.
Speaker 12 (32:52):
One out of our four main protein processors is owned
by China, another one's owned by Brazil. This should not
it's the national security issue.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's a great point.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You touch on something really important there, and that is
half of the pigs live in America.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
They our Chinese owned Smithfield.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
The Giants hacking company is owned by China since two
thousand and four.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Of these are a great time.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And you mentioned a congresswoman the family farm.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
There you have one. They're in Illinois.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Family farmly going bankrupt at an ever faster rate while
corporate farming continues to gobble up land and power. And
they seem to be and maybe I'm wrong, correct me
if i am, but it would seem to me watching
this they're more susceptible to all that money coming from
China and anywhere else that doesn't have our best interest
in mind.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Is that a concern of yours? It's definitely a concern.
Speaker 12 (33:41):
And like I say, a lot of our policies that
we're implementing, our driving consolidation and industry. And one of
the things I'm going to bring up is the green scam,
which I'm very thrilled that President Trump is speaking out
against it. The big beautiful bill that we passed and
went to the Senate is rolling back the IRA tax credits.
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Not one Republican voted for it, but they are covering
I could tell you in Illinois, they're covering class A,
Class B farm ground, the best farm ground in the
world with solar panels and windmills, and a lot of
those people are they that are bullied up to these subsidies.
They don't own the land there, but the ones that do,
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they're the ones now that had the money to go
buy overpriced farm ground or out rent through options. And
it will cause consolidation on agriculture. Not to mention it's
really bad management of our beautiful land.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, I want to just ask real quickly.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
The Big Beautiful Bill has a lot of provisions that
will benefit the family farmer also ensure that the family
farmers able to bring its generations down and without losing
having to sell the farm because of taxes and death taxes.
Could you tell us how important some of those provisions
are to farmers.
Speaker 12 (35:00):
It's very important. We got to pass the tax or
make the Tax Cutting Jobs Act. We've got to make
sure that's put in permanent law. And that's one of
the most important things in that big beautiful Bill. And
you know, I just think the whole economy will be
heading to recession if we don't get that passed quickly.
I think the markets are nervous, and I could tell
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you at the family farm. It will be gone if
we don't get that because the taxes not being able
to write off investments quickly and then also pass the
farm onto the next generation. Not just for the family farm,
but also for family businesses, small businesses.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So important, very important.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
We appreciate you being here a congress women.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I gave you the last word here because the family
farms in trouble is being attacked by large agricultural interest
It's being attacked by governments from overseas and possibly by well,
could be could be a ringworm, could be a pathogen
of unknown origin.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
A lot of concerns for the farm in America. I'll
give you the last word.
Speaker 12 (36:08):
Well, I think that we need to look at the
policies that have been hurting the family farmer. You know,
we need to make sure that energy is cheap, tamping
down inflation, which President Trump and understands all these things.
But also we need to have a robust trade policy.
And I'm appalled that we have imported. I believe in
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the last couple of years we have imported billions of
pounds of hamburger into our country. We have every ability
to be producing our own beef, but we have bad
policies that disincentivize beef production, and so I think we
need to look at those things and get us back
on track to be highly productive in our ag sector.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Congress, I think we all agree with that. Congress from
Mary Miller of Illinois, thank you for being here. You're welcome.
They appreciate it. All right, we'll take a break and
be right back on Just the New. There's no Noise.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
All right, welcome back to the special edition of Just
the News, No Noise. A little earlier, I had the
chance to speak to an expert who's been predicting we
may see a global famine and soon. He had some
interesting perspectives on just what could cause it. Listen to
this well, as we know, the world's population is growing fast.
But when it comes to the question of a global
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food crisis, opinions are divided. On one side, there are
those who warn that we're running out of resources needed
to feed billions of people on the planet. On the
other side, skeptics that call that fear overblown, just another
round of doomsday predictions, they say. But in his book
The Coming of Famine, author Julian Cribbs sides with the
warning camp. He joins me now from Austria. Julian, thank
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you for joining us here.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Believing.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Now, as you know, we were discussing just before you
came on, how vulnerable the food supplies are, regardless of
what the cause might be.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And I want to go over this a little bit.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I want people to understand we're really just a moment
awagh at any given time of having starvation on this planet.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Whatever the cause.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Could be a pathogen brought in by the Chinese, could
be a drought, could be a flood, could be weather
patterns that create problems and cause crop failure in the
United States or Canada, South America, Ukraine, wherever that problem
may be.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You tell me we're only a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Away at any given moment from having a full blown
famine in great parts of this world.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 13 (38:48):
So generally there are twelve to sixteen weeks of grain
in store worldwide, and then another harvest comes in, whether
it's in the Northern hemisphere or whether it's in the
Southern hemisphere.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
And that keeps on rolling.
Speaker 13 (39:00):
And that's what keeps the food in the supermarkets worldwide. Now,
the thing you've got to bear in mind is there
are twenty five million a billion meals being eaten every
single day, twenty five billion meals, right, and if there's
any glitch in that supply, then people starve. And when
people starve, governments come down. So you can get a
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fairly catastrophic failure in short order. And let me just
run through you mentioned resources. About around a third of
the world's top soil has already been lost, a well
attested scientific figure. We're losing seventy five billion tons of
soil just by farming every single year. Okay, so within
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fifty years we're going to run out of soil.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
We're running out of water.
Speaker 13 (39:47):
Fresh water is in extremely scarce supply in the Middle East,
in Central Asia, in North China, in the North Indian Plain,
all of those places around the world.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
We're running out of water.
Speaker 13 (39:58):
And our water grows forty percent of the world's food
on irrigation. Okay, so if you run out of that water,
you can't grow that food. So that's another vulnerability. The
next thing is that we're using five million tons of
highly toxic pesticides in agriculture around the world every single year,
and those are having a very untoward effect on the
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health of the soil and on the farming environment.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Those are all critical factory.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Effect is but it's a negative.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
One, right.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
There are all factors here, But this whole, this whole
emergency famine, if you will, could be expedited by a
pathogen being brought in that could cause crime failure long
before any of those things that you just laid out
would become a concern.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Do you concern.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yourself with what we call bioterrorism agro terrorism? Somebody introducing
a parasite, a bug, a fungus, a bacteria, any of
those things.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Do you concern yourself on such things?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (41:01):
Yes, indeed, I mean anthrax was used against the horses
that pulled the guns in World War One, So bioterrorism
is a not unfamiliar thing. People have been thinking about
it for well over one hundred years, and there are
people tinkering, as we know now with dangerous viruses and
bacteria of various kinds, and genetic engineering is creating new
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and underwards strains of these things.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
So it's quite possible.
Speaker 13 (41:29):
But the qualifier is that if you released something like that,
it would start off having a very local effect, and
if you could quarantine it, then you could control it.
But the problem now is that there are out of
the thirty thousand edible plants on the world, we eat
six main crops, and that makes those crops terribly vulnerable
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to new pathogens, whether they're man made or not.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
So wheat my suggestion, and corn barley clearly.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
But the conserv would be if one country had created
a past resistant or a fungus resistant strain of corn
or rice, or whatever the case might be, before they
released the pathogen into the rest of the world, they
could eat when others couldn't. You could have a man
made catastrophe for some and maybe not for others, a
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designed famine. That's what concerns me here today.
Speaker 13 (42:30):
It generally takes several years for a pathogen, a new
pathogen like wheat rust for example, to spread around the world.
So the chances are that you can quarantine and that
you can breed resistant strains before.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
It arrives in your neck of the woods.
Speaker 13 (42:45):
It depends where you are, and it depends where it's released,
and it depends how much grain you are shipping from
that area around the world and therefore transporting helping to
distribute the mechanic the pest. So yes look it's a vulnerability,
but like biological warfare compared to nuclear warfare, it's not
the worst possibility.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, America exports twenty five percent of its grain twenty
five percent, so if America had a failure, regardless of cause,
places like Sub Saharan Africa would pay the price in
hunger in a way that other less vulnerable places would not.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I'll give you the last word, sir.
Speaker 13 (43:25):
Most of America's grain is used for feeding cattle and livestock,
so that would be the industry worst hit. First, we'd
run out of meat, basically. But let me say this,
we can overcome all of these problems if we go
to renewable food. We need to go to renewable food,
which is food that has not produced agriculturally, that is
climate resistant.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
And which has not grown on farmers.
Speaker 13 (43:49):
Basically, then you can feed everybody everywhere in the world safely.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
And we'll save that conversation for the next time around.
Julian Crib, I really appreciate you being here. The book
is The Coming Famine.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
If you want to.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Read it, I suggest you do and find out more
and be prepared.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Julian, thank you so much for being here. It's all fascinating,
it says.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Okay, so coming up next, John and I will have
some final thoughts on what we've learned.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Tonight, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Welcome back in America. Just a few minutes left in
this very special discussion. I've really been honored to be
joined tonight by my amazing colleague Steve Gruber.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
This is an important topic and I'm going to bring
Steve right in.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Steve, I walked away today with two incredible impressions, and
I feel like I know a lot of things being
in Washington. But when you listen to doctor Yen and
you see the little literally the program that China has
at every scientist that's going to come to the United
States signing a contract, they're given their orders, and as
she said, they act like parasites, sucking all of our
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knowledge out of us and taking it back to that
one day they can destroy us.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's a pretty dramatic moment in the show.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
We got to educate the Americans that this is the
Chinese's plan.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
We certainly do.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Look the farmers I talk to, they know that it's
out there because they see they're buying seeds from China.
Some of the right they're buying fertilizer from China some
on them all. So they realize that as a back
and forth, and they realize these tentacles are in there.
But you look at these these pathogens being brought in
University of Michigan, for example, and this sends a chill
down their spine. They know that China has somewhere close
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to half a million acres of farmland in America, and
that's not a significant amount, it's less than one percent.
Until you realize that it's not just the farmland. If
they want to come in and contaminate American farms, they
don't have to go to Mark Benjamins, they don't have
to go to Alex Clark's. They go right to their
own farm and put that pathogen on the on the
crops that they're growing themselves, and.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Then get them airborne.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
They know that.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
And the other thing, John is you know these pieces
of farm land that the Chinese buying up are also
close to strategic military operations for the United States military.
So that's another concerning aspect of those farmland being gobbled up.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, Listen, the Chinese are playing four dimensional chests in
hopes that they will defeat us without ever having to
fire or shot, and I think tonight we got to
see just how sophisticated their game plan is and how
vulnerable are The other thing that struck me tonight was
listening to those interviews with the farmers.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
We really are.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
More vulnerable to a famine, more vulnerable to a sudden
crop disaster than I appreciated until I heard from those farmers.
Those are pretty poignant stories.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
They really.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
I mean, there was a time in America when we
had long term storage of grain, for example. But the
way the supply chain works now you know Kellogg's or
whoever I use, Kelloggs or a Michigan company, they bring
the grain in, they push it out.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
They bring the grain and they pushed out. Then they
wait for Argentina to deliver.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Their products because those two seasons rotate. So you've got
the American crop, then you've got the South American crop,
then you've got the Asian crop. And so the way
the supply chains work, okay, everything's great, right until there's
a miss in the supply chain. When America gets shut
down in Illinois where Mary Miller's from, or you have
a problem in Michigan or Iowa, you have a problem
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in one of those places, and then it starts to steamroll.
The domino effect comes into place. Like Mark Benjamin mentioned,
you lose a couple of harvests, and he's told me
this for years. I've known Mark for a number of years.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
We're two failed harvests away.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
And like they also discussed and I talked about it's
America getting hit, but then it's Sub Saharan Africa, it's
Asia where they cannot.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Afford the food insecurity. They already have the ripple effect
across this planet. John is frightening.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yes, we'll say something in America we've never seen, but
the rest of the world could suffer worse than first.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
It is amazing.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
And in the sophistication of how the Chinese have set
the table in case they want to call on this option,
it is so scary. M was pretty adamant today that
Congress has to do more. They have to get in
the game. I've been learning a lot about these scientists.
I've been going literally scientists by scientists, a thousand that
come from these hostile countries, and they're now being vetted
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for the first time.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
A lot of them get in through.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
The back door, which is nih doesn't say we're giving
an award to China. They give it to an American vendor,
and then the American vendor subcontracts, and so it's even
hidden on the books. It takes two jumps to find
the Chinese trail. The Chinese are brilliant. They're working on
one now where they go to a famous hospital chain,
they make a donation, they get in good with them,
and then all of a sudden, subcontracts coming in and
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they're doing all this work. We would never know unless
you could look two layers down. This is a sophisticated
operation on Beijing's part.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
And let me say one thing about that. The same
thing is true in academia. When they come into the
University of Measane or Texas A and M, or the
University of Iowa, whatever the Landgran College is where they're
focusing on agriculture, they come in with big checks. All
these universities want the money because right now they're strapped
for cash, so, oh, easy money from China will take it.
We'll just kind of go with it and see what happens.
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And it's leaving us unprotected in a perilous position because
they're in such need of the money. They're wanted to
look the other way. I think that's a problem, and
that is frightening.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
In and of itself.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, one of the FBI agents I talked to for
these stories said, we don't have an achilles hea. We
have a wallet that is our weakness. China buys their
way in and then we have an addiction. It's an
amazing thing, Steve.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
This was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
We're going to do this again next month.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
We're going to keep this conversation going and to get
some cabinet secretaries, maybe an FBI director in here.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
But we'll we team up again in another month.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
I really enjoyed this thing, and thank you for coming
up with such a great idea.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Thank you, John.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, a lot of fun. What a great journalist, so
lucky to share the network question. All right, folks, that
is it person night.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
We're going to head off to the amazing Grant Sinchwell
back tomorrow night and the men will be in the chair.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I'll be underwell to see you then.
Good evening, America, and welcome to the Thursday edition of.
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Today's Supreme Court issuing a major, major ruling affirming that
states have the right to reject planned parenthood from Medicaid.
That will be followed in a couple weeks by a
vote in Congress to potentially defund planned parent at the
federal level. Now, normally we dig a deep dive in
the headlines, but today we're going to do something different.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Amanda, We'll be back tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'm going to team up today with the great Steve Gruber,
my colleague here at Real America's Voice. We want to
tackle a topic that you probably don't know much about,
probably just started hearing about a couple weeks ago, but
it is a serious, serious problem, the threat, the growing
threat of agroterrorism. You know about the three Michigan scientists
hall from China. Three Chinese scientists working in the United
(01:33):
States in Michigan at the University of Michigan being arrested,
bringing in deadly pathogency the United States. You know about
the story we broke earlier this week on the show.
A thousand scientists have been brought into this country from
hostile nations like China, working at the NIH They weren't
properly vetted. Now we're scrambling under the Trump administration to
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vet them. The potential for a famine causing or food
disrupting as act is higher than it's ever been. In Tonight,
we're going to bring you into the real world, including
introducing you to a defector from the Chinese scientific community,
doctor Lee Mengnen. You'll may be amazed by her story
and what she says China is plotting and planning. She
(02:15):
knows she worked for them. But before we get to
all that, let me bring in my amazing co host
for the Evening, the one the Only, Steve Goover, Steve,
good to have you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm good to be teaming up with you tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
John good to see it. Glad to be here, my friend.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Listen, this is such a great idea. I know you
came up with this idea. I'm so excited. I don't
think six months ago people were thinking, boy, I have
to worry about famine in the United States because some
roundworm or some pathogen is going to get released and
I could wipe out our crops. And then these three
scientists get picked up. We're all a little bit more
(02:50):
aware of things now.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, as you mentioned off the top, so many headlines.
I mean, the news cycle is intense these days, to
say the least.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Donald Trump doesn't sow down.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
You've got the you've got the economy, You've got the
Supreme Court, you've got the Warner run. And we're missing
the point that maybe one of the biggest stories is
right under our noses.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Our food supply is vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's vulnerable to the Chinese Communist Party, it's vulnerable to
the scientists at NIH that you just mentioned. It's vulnerable
because we haven't been paying close.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Enough attention to John, and we really need.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
To because if they can destroy the crops, they can
destroy America without ever firing a shot.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And by the way, that is the Chinese playbook. They
don't want a kinetic war. They want to feed us
through these alternative means. I want to ask real Cookie
before we get to our first guests. You're at ground
zero for where this story broke a few weeks ago.
What has been the reaction in Michigan to realize that
they had these scientists smuggling in these dangerous pathogens.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well, as you can imagine, people like Governor Whimer say nothing.
Of course, she has encouraged Chinese investment in Michigan with
these big battery plants and any things that are very
controversial for the farmers on the ground. Though we'll hear
from them just a few minutes. They take it very seriously.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
They know how vulnerable they are.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
They know if they can't defend against a fungus or
a bacteria or another pathogen, not only will it shut
down and destroy their farms. Once it gets up into
the jet stream, up into the air, these things spread.
It may take a month or two or a year,
but by the time it spreads, we're in real trouble,
and by that point it could be too late.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, that's right. Most of these are airborne.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They move the wind, can move them from one location
to another, and all of a sudden, you have an
outbreak all across this country. It's really scary stuff. I'm
really excited about our first guest. She first blew the
whistle back in January or assume me in the summer
of twenty twenty, when she defected the United States and
told us that just like we now know that the
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COVID virus was in fact man made and leaked from
Muhan virus.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But today she is.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sounding the alarm about China's larger intentions with our food supply.
Take a look at this incredible interview we did earlier
this week with doctor Lee Meng. Yeah, all right, joining
us now a person. It was on the front lines
of China's bio research, Chinese biologists and coronavirus. What's the more,
doctor Leminghan. Doctor, good to have you on the show.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Thank you, John, Thank you for having me again.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It's a great honor. I want to start with a question.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think a lot of Americans have, which is, why
does China have research that tries to make viruses more
deadly like the coronaviruses that escape from the Wuhan lab,
And why is it that their researchers are now trying
to bring in pathogency the United States that have the
potential to do great harm to our crowns. What's the intention?
What does it's China doing this for the good of
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science or do they have a more malicious intent?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Ah Hi, John, These are a very good question. And
since I reviewed the COVID nineteen origin, I keep telling
people that I come from that regime. I know what
they're doing, and I can tell you for sure that
why is the folks on file weapons about heroism? Because
according to ccap's doctrine, they believe that bile weapons are
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a poor people's nuclear weapons, so they treat it as
the alternative form of the nuclear weapons with the more cost.
And it's very easy to manipulate the passagings. So you
say that during COVID nineteen and they release the weaponize
COVID nineteen from Uhan to the United States and coust
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over millions of deaths, and the treatise of US and
Also now we say just within several weeks this year,
the FBI have caught the SAP agents pretending to be
the researchers smuggling the dadly fungus and also the round
the worms, which can cause about security threats to the
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agriculture and human and animals in the US. Through your
custom and also more importantly, you will say that these researchers,
they have their laps in the US. For example, in
these two cases, the laps in the based in the
University of Michigan could help them to do this kind
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of work. And if you do more research, you will
see that CCPs infiltration deeply rooted in the University of Michigan,
like how they routed in Harvard, Johns, Hopkins and other
US universities, so China could pay very little cost like
some funding. Some researchers provide materials and working with CCPs
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esponages and also pro CCP campaigns in the US to
gain your high technology, gain your taxpayers money, gain your resources,
and make these weaponized passages to create damage to the US.
Because here is the answer of your question that the
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US Americans are the primary enemy for communist China. For
the CCP from the beginning when CCP was established.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You know, China is at war with America, even though
America may not realize the doctor they're targeting us when
we're sitting here complacent too often. I read one of
your articles here recently about how they're targeting using quote
unquote innocent students to hide under that umbrella.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
They introduced not.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Just fungus and ring worm and round worm like they
did the University of Michigan, but using genetic modification to
alter plants, insects to destroy plants, viruses, bacteria, fungus, and
other path leigiens to destroy plants and food shortages. That's
the ultimate goal here, because if you can take the
food away from somebody, you can certainly weaken America from
the inside.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Is that what you're seeing? Oh?
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Yes, sound was I quote?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Here is an exacting word from people's viperational armies textbook.
This textbook named the Biosecurity and it was published as
an early off Shijen King's regime. Around twenty fourteen. I
read a food textbook and this is not the only
textbook talking about how you weapons nice passages and under
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these kind of fancy words about security it clearly mentioned
that about weapon targeting both human and also agriculture is
the best one because I mean either human or agriculture
or both, because not I may target the enemy but
also target their food supply chain. Like for example, China
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try to convince you that COVID nineteen can spread through
the code chain because they want to also control the
colde chain. Then that is the very important part of
your food supply chain right right. And now you see
the founders and the round the wolves, both of these
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can hurt human, animal and agriculture. So why China purchase
a lot of friends in the US near the military. Yes,
that can be used as military espionage, but also like
for example the very famous case the full Phone Group
purchased the land and near the Nosta Kota military base,
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they also want use that to make up about rorism
and about at text in the unrestricted warfare. Because if
you check the full Phone Group's background, that agriculture company,
they have the military savile fusion projects working with Cepiece
leading by weapon General Jandre full from Academy of Military
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Medical and Science who's also the leading experts in developing
COVID nineteen virus.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Doctor, I want to talk about the experience you have.
You come to the United States, you blow the whistle
on COVID nineteen, you say it's most likely genetically created
in a lab, and the scientific community sails you any
way possible. But it turns out from reporting we did
the last few weeks that the DEIA came to the
exact same conclusion as you in early twenty twenty as
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well behind the scenes where you talking to US intelligency FBI,
and were they taking your concerns seriously even as a
scientific community trying to silence you.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I want to tell you that first, I know this
is true when I provide that, so I'm always confident
about that. I know one day, even after one hundred years,
that will be verified. And I provide this information to
American government agencies and for example FBI, and I can
tell you that's why FBI was among the few intelligence
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agencies back to Biden administration telling that this is from
the Colinineen's from the Chinese lab. At that time, most
of intelligence agencies that, oh, as I don't know, or
it comes from the nature. So that shows how crapt,
how compromised these American scientists and some of the intelligence
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agencies are anyway, I want to say that there are
some buireoucritical things always happened in your government and agencies.
I hope that can be improved, but I won't say that.
We have more evidence not only about the COVID nineteen origin,
but also during the past five years accumulated from our
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exclusive sources around CIGP and inside SAYCAP talking about not
only the COVID nineteen, and there are more similar foule
weapon projects going on, and also there are more unrestricted
warfare tactics going on. Some of them are very evil
strategy and all of their targets are Americans. So the
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one destroy you. They are your number one enemy for
your life and your future.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I think the whole here is maybe there's a different
day when it comes to the intel.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Community here in America.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I say that because cashpital support smuggling and non aggrotaris
agent into the US not just a violation of law,
a direct threat to national security. So they're watching closer
than they have for the last four years. But you
also make a tie to all the money that flows
to American universities.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
University Michigan fifty four million dollars, and I.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Think if we go around this country, you'll find other
universities have the benefit of an open checkbook from the
CCP AD buys a lot of cooperation and a lot
of people looking the other way when.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
These sorts of things are going on. That would be
my assumption.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
What say you, Oh, I would say that I work
at the University of Hong Kong and previous ized studying
the top Chinese medical universities, and I can tell you
that people who have the very good academic knowledge doesn't
mean they are all the nice people. Actually, a lot
of them are very greedy and the easy it can
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be bought. So China knows that. That's why they put
the money to universities into US and bring these professors
or experts to the China to get the collaboration, and
then they compromise them. If someone among them cannot be compromised,
then China will use the national power to isolate to
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silence these people. So that's why back to twenty fourteen,
when the US experts believe that gain of function should
be stopped. After several years around two thousand and seventeen
to twenty eighteen, most of expert in the Council A
reject gain of function, removed, and then the new expert
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involved into the council again support gain of function. So
that's the change, and show you how China, if you
give them time, they could use very little money compared
to your taxpayers money compared to the government income. They
use very little part to buy the scientists, the expert,
the media and then make them working in favor of
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trans Communist Party and harm Americans. So of course there
must be more all that and other kind of regulation,
kind of countermagers, intelligence countermagers, because this is related to
your national security, and previously you'll give too many opportunities
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to China.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, Wall, it's got about a minute left.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Doctor. I want to ask one quick question. That is,
we had a story earlier this week. Hundreds of Chinese
scientists have been brought here on visas by the National
Institutes of Health. Is there any reason to believe that
they're not here working for the interests of the Chinese
Communist government on these programs you just talked about.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You mean the scientist getting visa, scientists getting visa from
China to the US. They are visiting scholars. They have
sunned the contract with Chinese government to go back to China,
serve for China with whatever they can get from the US.
That's why they get visa from Chinese government. So from
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the beginning they already made the deal with CICAP and
become CCAPS kind of agents. So China has these people
come here, grab your intellectual properties, grab your technologies, compromise
your people. And that is like the tumor, like the parasites,
go to your body, go to your country. So China
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use these people, and that is China's national strategy. So
you ask Gum and must treat it as anti kind
of hopsas national threats. Yeah, not only individual cases.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah so well, soome doctor, you took the courage to
you made the courage to actually.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Go flow the whist on what China was doing.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Our scientific community impuned you for a while, but history
has shown you told us the truth and now the
rest of the American government agrees with you. A great
honor to have you on the show. Tay, thank you
so much for joining us.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Thank you see your next time.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yes, what a great conversation. What an extraordinary woman.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
All right, folks, we're going to take a quick comercial
break when we come back. A lot more very important
topic of agroterrorism.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
That I think it's message all right, welcome back now.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Over the last couple of.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Weeks, I've traveled to speak with real farmers in their
fields to ask about what they think about the dangers
of agroterrorism. And I've got to say, what they told
me about the fragility of our food.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Supply will give you pause.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
The problem with Americans is they look at war as
a binary question. Most believer either ad war with another
country or we're not. It seems they've lost the concept
of the Cold War that lasts from the waning days
of World War Two until the waiting days of the
Reagan Bush era.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
In nineteen ninety one and ninety two, mister garbaschofv teared
down this wall.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
The Chinese, however, know perfectly well they are war with
the United States and they are executing that war every
single day. They deliver attacks on high tech targets, steel,
intellectual property, plant moles in the private sector, academia, and
the highest levels of government.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
We've written the cyber.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Attacks as the FBI and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency
SISA have highlighted Chinese operations targeting US tech companies, universities
and government agencies too. Intellectual theft, according to numerous estimates,
could be six hundred billion dollars a year, and espionage
is ongoing. Highlight of a case is like the twenty
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twenty arrest of a Chinese military officer posing as a
US college student.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
And those are just some easy examples.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Chinese warfare in America is ubiquitous and unless we wake
up and soon, they could win this war because they're
fighting on battlefields we don't know exists, or at least
don't pay attention to. And one of the most disturbing
is unfolding in the nation's hardlands.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
Bioterrorism by a warfare, yes, warfare, warfare without fire and shot.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Mark Benjamin is a sixth generation farmer in southern Michigan.
The Stanley began feeding the nation sometime around eighteen eighty
and his forefathers and mothers.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Have been turning this ground ever since.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
They faced a Great depression, floods, droughts, and tornadoes as well.
But Mark says the recent arrest of several Chinese students
from the University of Michigan carrying fungus designed to attack corn, beans, wheat,
and rice is an all new threat and one that
he takes quite seriously. From what you've read, from what
you've figured out, an enhanced fungus that maybe is fung
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just side resistant, and that's what you're reading.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What would it mean? What could it mean?
Speaker 9 (19:45):
Right now, we can treat the diseases on wheat and
corn with.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
The fungus side, but the stuff.
Speaker 9 (19:52):
The third person snuck into the US is stuff that
they can use to make the disease resist to our
fungus sides.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
What would that mean? That would mean that.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Easily wipe out half the crop half half easy? If
it's on wheat right now, every year we're dealing with it.
Even sometimes when it's treated for it, you'll still get
docked if the wheat has too much vomitox in it.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
If you look around, you know, wheat, corn beans, whatever
field you look at, if the United States lost half
of its crop, because once it was here, the fungus
spreads naturally, doesn't It just gets in the air and
it goes.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Yeah, it's airborne, and of course it could be spread
intentionally anywhere. And when you get the right weather conditions
with the right amount of rain and the winds, it'll spread.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
If America lost half of its crop, what would that mean.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
If the fungus was to be enhanced so it's or potent,
and then also enhanced so we can't control a fungicides,
and when it was half a crop for a couple
of years, then you're starting to talk about massive world starvation.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
That's right, Famine like America has never known because from
the first days of Europeans settling this nation, there's always
been farmland, and not just ordinary farmland, but the most
productive land in the world.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And for the last one hundred and.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
Fifty years, America and the American farmers have fed the world.
In fact, America is currently exports about twenty five percent
of its grain production annually. The impact of an agricultural
failure here would be felt around the world, especially in
areas where food and security is already an issue like
Sub Saharan Africa.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
Back Roads like this have been the backbone of America
from the beginning of this country. Farms, farmland, they've fed
a nation. In fact, we've fed the world. But now
farmers here in places like.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
This, they're worried.
Speaker 10 (21:58):
They're worried that their livestile being taken away.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Their farms are going bankrupt and.
Speaker 10 (22:02):
They're not being targeted by China, and they're worried because
they know how ruthless China can be, especially when it
comes to things like bioterrorism.
Speaker 11 (22:11):
If they're willing to sneak in fungus now, and they're
probably snuck in fungus before, or any other pest or
any other genetics, we're catching them already. We can expect
them to ramp it up, you know, especially as world
tensions they're escalating. They're going to use any method they
can find to mess with us and give themselves an
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advantage over us.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And if they starve us to death, they probably don't care,
do they. No, they don't care.
Speaker 11 (22:37):
And that's where we need to rely on our politicians
and government to help prevent it.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Alex Clark is another family farmer who's deeply concerned about
what he sees on the news and reads in the headlines,
and he's frustrated because to him, Washington is very slow
to react to the clear and emerging threat of bioterror
and using weapons as simple as enhanced fungus to take
down the nation. Instead of banning China for owning American farmland,
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reduction facilities and even seed companies. Washington remains silent, placated
by lobbyists, and a whole lot of Chinese money does
not value.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I mean, here you are are fourth generation family farm. Honestly,
China shows up.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
They buy the seed company, that buy the meatpacking company.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
They send their scientists here to steal intellectual property.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
When we make advancements at Michigan State or Texas A
and m or Ohio State or wherever it is, they
either buy their way in or sneak their way in.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
It's upsetting because for like my brother and I, we're
relatively small operation. We don't have any control over what
China is doing what We don't have any control over
what they're doing in Chicago or Toledo in terms of prices.
So we're kind of at the mercy of our country
and we're competing with these Chinese you know, actors that
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are most.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Likely manipulating them all.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
We know they maynipulate the markets with you know, dipping
into served classes or changing their imports and exports and
affects you know, directly every day, directly and indirectly every day.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
So what if what if China took the next step
to destroy American crops.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
What would that mean?
Speaker 8 (24:17):
Well, according to Mark Benjamin, the damage would be far
worse than hunger and breadlines.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
He believes it could destroy the nation altogether.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
You take out the US economy. How farms fail, you
have massive bank problems. If the US agriculture is hit
with US Okay, farms fail. Average house in the USA,
fifty eight thousand dollars of somebody's mortgage is just for
the land the house is sitting on. You whip out
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US farms, land values crash to practically nothing all of
a sudden, overnight, housing mortgages are upside down because the
land is citting on that costs fifty eight thousand dollars
is now worth one two thousand dollars. And then that's
a problem for all the banks and going to go
back to the same housing crisis with mortgage crisis we
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had ten fifteen years ago. And then the US is
spending all what's money to try to keep that afloat,
and we're no longer able to invest in defense.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
So China brings in a fungus, creates an agricultural failure,
creates a failure of farms, creates a crash in the
price of land, creates a bank panic, creates a default
by the federal government.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Is that about right? One domino after another? Yes?
Speaker 8 (25:37):
So are we at war? It's pretty clear we are.
It's pretty clear that China has been targeting us on
every level, from supply chains to the energy grid and
now our food. And if you can take out the
food supply, as you've now heard, you can bring down
the entire nation. Like Mark said, you could do it
without firing a shot. Is it an active war? It's
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an active war.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
So what will it take for Americans to recognize the
clear and present danger that is China?
Speaker 8 (26:07):
And what will Washington do to protect our farms from
being destroyed by pests delivered potentially? The bottom line is
this targeting American agriculture is just another strategy and the
Chinese approach of asymmetrical warfare designed to weaken America from
the inside out, and you lasting damage to us economically, socially,
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and politically.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
An act of war without firing a shot. Pretty frightening, right,
But we're going to stay on top of the destroy
because if you've just seen what a foreign power could
do to our food supply with very little effort, I
might add, it's incredibly dangerous and the government needs to
start doing more to protect us. Right now, we'll have
more for you after the break. Staying right there, welcome
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back to this special report. John Solomon and I looking
into a topic tonight that isn't often discussed but should be.
We're talking about America's food supply, how fragile it really is.
And we've got a good reminder of that after the
FBI announced they had arrested two Chinese scientists were struggling
a toxic fungus into my home state of Michigan. A
third has now been arrested. So do we have the
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place in place the safeguards we need joining us now?
Someone who can help answer that act. She represents the
great state of Illinois is on the House Agriculture Committee,
Congresswoman Mary Miller.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Congress Woman, thank you for being here, Thank you for
having me.
Speaker 12 (27:47):
Also, my husband and I farm in central Illinois, so
I can tell you as a representative from the AG community,
and then being on the Ag Committee, that having open
borders as a concern for us in light of agriterrorism,
and you know here we are. We've got proof sure
and one thing I don't want people to do is
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to forget the damage that Joe Biden did when he
opened up the border.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Never forget.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
How concern were you a congressman when you heard about
these University of Michigan students coming in.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I mean, where you live is the heart of corn country.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
It's corn, it's beans, it's wheat, It's along the Mississippi River,
a huge part of central Illinois. It would destroy American farms,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 12 (28:32):
Yes, Well, this is this particular case is some kind
of fungus that would cause a blight in grains such
as wheat and barley, but it also causes illness in humans.
But we let so many people in Joe Biden basically
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advertise and incentivize the invasion. But we know that tens
of thousands of Chinese nationals walked across the border. So
not only those that we let in and gave them
student visas and they're on our campuses doing supposed research,
we have all these other ones that walked in. It's
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a terrible problem because China is our enemy. They've infiltrated
all of our institutions. They are not to be trusted.
And you know, we need to backtrack on who's here
and what their intentions are.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, congresswomen, We had a story the other day on
Justin News confirming that the Trump administration is investigating more
than a thousand NIH researchers who were given visas from
the NIH, but they hail from countries that are called
countries have concerned those who are hostile to the United States.
China is the largest portion of that thousand. The reason
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that investigation was launched. These scientists apparently weren't properly vetted
when they were first let in. Congress has a lot
of oversight capabilities. Is is this an agency and I
set maybe needs to be reined in a little bit.
Speaker 12 (30:04):
Absolutely, And the American people want to know who's coming
here and why the whole world wants to come here.
We should be choosy about who's coming and where they're
coming from. And they need to be properly vetted. You know,
under the Biden administration, even the people that came during
the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, that many of them were not
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properly vetted. So we need to backtrack and go back
and find out who's here and do proper vetting on them.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, when it comes time to do that vetting and
looking for answers condres. And my question is is, look,
there's a lot of money behind this, a lot of
money being pumped in by the CCP into academia, into
agricultural companies. China controls meatpacking plans like Smithfield, they control Syngenta,
which is a seed company. I mean, they've got their
tentacles into all these different areas of agriculture, and I just.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Feel like it's the wild West. Let's say you.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
It's a national security issue, and I'm glad that we
have someone President Trump at the top that loves our
country and cares and recognizes it and has the courage
to not only speak out against it, but to stand
up against it. And we need to halt immigration and
student visas from China definitely, as well as many other
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countries that our known enemies.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, kinuswoman, the Committee's been very business this year, and
for the first time in a long time, farmers are
getting some of the policy attention they were denied under
a Democratic Congress, democratic president. What are some of the
most important initiatives in your committee right now looking to
aim to protect the food supply, grow the food supply,
make sure that we don't have an artificially caused famine
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because of one of our enemies.
Speaker 12 (31:48):
Well, I mean, the borders have to be secured, and
like I said, we need to go back and do
a like a backtracking on our vetting process for the
student visas, especially in the like we have a land
grant university at the University of Illinois and we have
a lot of Chinese nationals there on student visas, and
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we need to backtrack on that vetting process. But a
lot of important things coming up for that ag community.
The farmers are hurting big time because of four years
of out of control inflation and then passive trade policy,
and right now we're looking at blow blow break even
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prices for our grain. It's a serious issue. We got
to be there to support our producers and the American
people don't want corporate ag taking over our food supply.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
We've had that in the protein processing. You brought it up.
Speaker 12 (32:52):
One out of our four main protein processors is owned
by China, another one's owned by Brazil. This should not
it's the national security issue.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's a great point.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You touch on something really important there, and that is
half of the pigs live in America.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
They our Chinese owned Smithfield.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
The Giants hacking company is owned by China since two
thousand and four.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Of these are a great time.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And you mentioned a congresswoman the family farm.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
There you have one. They're in Illinois.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Family farmly going bankrupt at an ever faster rate while
corporate farming continues to gobble up land and power. And
they seem to be and maybe I'm wrong, correct me
if i am, but it would seem to me watching
this they're more susceptible to all that money coming from
China and anywhere else that doesn't have our best interest
in mind.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Is that a concern of yours? It's definitely a concern.
Speaker 12 (33:41):
And like I say, a lot of our policies that
we're implementing, our driving consolidation and industry. And one of
the things I'm going to bring up is the green scam,
which I'm very thrilled that President Trump is speaking out
against it. The big beautiful bill that we passed and
went to the Senate is rolling back the IRA tax credits.
(34:05):
Not one Republican voted for it, but they are covering
I could tell you in Illinois, they're covering class A,
Class B farm ground, the best farm ground in the
world with solar panels and windmills, and a lot of
those people are they that are bullied up to these subsidies.
They don't own the land there, but the ones that do,
(34:26):
they're the ones now that had the money to go
buy overpriced farm ground or out rent through options. And
it will cause consolidation on agriculture. Not to mention it's
really bad management of our beautiful land.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, I want to just ask real quickly.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
The Big Beautiful Bill has a lot of provisions that
will benefit the family farmer also ensure that the family
farmers able to bring its generations down and without losing
having to sell the farm because of taxes and death taxes.
Could you tell us how important some of those provisions
are to farmers.
Speaker 12 (35:00):
It's very important. We got to pass the tax or
make the Tax Cutting Jobs Act. We've got to make
sure that's put in permanent law. And that's one of
the most important things in that big beautiful Bill. And
you know, I just think the whole economy will be
heading to recession if we don't get that passed quickly.
I think the markets are nervous, and I could tell
(35:22):
you at the family farm. It will be gone if
we don't get that because the taxes not being able
to write off investments quickly and then also pass the
farm onto the next generation. Not just for the family farm,
but also for family businesses, small businesses.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So important, very important.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
We appreciate you being here a congress women.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I gave you the last word here because the family
farms in trouble is being attacked by large agricultural interest
It's being attacked by governments from overseas and possibly by well,
could be could be a ringworm, could be a pathogen
of unknown origin.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
A lot of concerns for the farm in America. I'll
give you the last word.
Speaker 12 (36:08):
Well, I think that we need to look at the
policies that have been hurting the family farmer. You know,
we need to make sure that energy is cheap, tamping
down inflation, which President Trump and understands all these things.
But also we need to have a robust trade policy.
And I'm appalled that we have imported. I believe in
(36:30):
the last couple of years we have imported billions of
pounds of hamburger into our country. We have every ability
to be producing our own beef, but we have bad
policies that disincentivize beef production, and so I think we
need to look at those things and get us back
on track to be highly productive in our ag sector.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Congress, I think we all agree with that. Congress from
Mary Miller of Illinois, thank you for being here. You're welcome.
They appreciate it. All right, we'll take a break and
be right back on Just the New. There's no Noise.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
All right, welcome back to the special edition of Just
the News, No Noise. A little earlier, I had the
chance to speak to an expert who's been predicting we
may see a global famine and soon. He had some
interesting perspectives on just what could cause it. Listen to
this well, as we know, the world's population is growing fast.
But when it comes to the question of a global
(37:37):
food crisis, opinions are divided. On one side, there are
those who warn that we're running out of resources needed
to feed billions of people on the planet. On the
other side, skeptics that call that fear overblown, just another
round of doomsday predictions, they say. But in his book
The Coming of Famine, author Julian Cribbs sides with the
warning camp. He joins me now from Austria. Julian, thank
(38:01):
you for joining us here.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Believing.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Now, as you know, we were discussing just before you
came on, how vulnerable the food supplies are, regardless of
what the cause might be.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And I want to go over this a little bit.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I want people to understand we're really just a moment
awagh at any given time of having starvation on this planet.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Whatever the cause.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Could be a pathogen brought in by the Chinese, could
be a drought, could be a flood, could be weather
patterns that create problems and cause crop failure in the
United States or Canada, South America, Ukraine, wherever that problem
may be.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You tell me we're only a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Away at any given moment from having a full blown
famine in great parts of this world.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 13 (38:48):
So generally there are twelve to sixteen weeks of grain
in store worldwide, and then another harvest comes in, whether
it's in the Northern hemisphere or whether it's in the
Southern hemisphere.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
And that keeps on rolling.
Speaker 13 (39:00):
And that's what keeps the food in the supermarkets worldwide. Now,
the thing you've got to bear in mind is there
are twenty five million a billion meals being eaten every
single day, twenty five billion meals, right, and if there's
any glitch in that supply, then people starve. And when
people starve, governments come down. So you can get a
(39:21):
fairly catastrophic failure in short order. And let me just
run through you mentioned resources. About around a third of
the world's top soil has already been lost, a well
attested scientific figure. We're losing seventy five billion tons of
soil just by farming every single year. Okay, so within
(39:42):
fifty years we're going to run out of soil.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
We're running out of water.
Speaker 13 (39:47):
Fresh water is in extremely scarce supply in the Middle East,
in Central Asia, in North China, in the North Indian Plain,
all of those places around the world.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
We're running out of water.
Speaker 13 (39:58):
And our water grows forty percent of the world's food
on irrigation. Okay, so if you run out of that water,
you can't grow that food. So that's another vulnerability. The
next thing is that we're using five million tons of
highly toxic pesticides in agriculture around the world every single year,
and those are having a very untoward effect on the
(40:19):
health of the soil and on the farming environment.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Those are all critical factory.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Effect is but it's a negative.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
One, right.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
There are all factors here, But this whole, this whole
emergency famine, if you will, could be expedited by a
pathogen being brought in that could cause crime failure long
before any of those things that you just laid out
would become a concern.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Do you concern.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yourself with what we call bioterrorism agro terrorism? Somebody introducing
a parasite, a bug, a fungus, a bacteria, any of
those things.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Do you concern yourself on such things?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (41:01):
Yes, indeed, I mean anthrax was used against the horses
that pulled the guns in World War One, So bioterrorism
is a not unfamiliar thing. People have been thinking about
it for well over one hundred years, and there are
people tinkering, as we know now with dangerous viruses and
bacteria of various kinds, and genetic engineering is creating new
(41:25):
and underwards strains of these things.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
So it's quite possible.
Speaker 13 (41:29):
But the qualifier is that if you released something like that,
it would start off having a very local effect, and
if you could quarantine it, then you could control it.
But the problem now is that there are out of
the thirty thousand edible plants on the world, we eat
six main crops, and that makes those crops terribly vulnerable
(41:52):
to new pathogens, whether they're man made or not.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
So wheat my suggestion, and corn barley clearly.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
But the conserv would be if one country had created
a past resistant or a fungus resistant strain of corn
or rice, or whatever the case might be, before they
released the pathogen into the rest of the world, they
could eat when others couldn't. You could have a man
made catastrophe for some and maybe not for others, a
(42:25):
designed famine. That's what concerns me here today.
Speaker 13 (42:30):
It generally takes several years for a pathogen, a new
pathogen like wheat rust for example, to spread around the world.
So the chances are that you can quarantine and that
you can breed resistant strains before.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
It arrives in your neck of the woods.
Speaker 13 (42:45):
It depends where you are, and it depends where it's released,
and it depends how much grain you are shipping from
that area around the world and therefore transporting helping to
distribute the mechanic the pest. So yes look it's a vulnerability,
but like biological warfare compared to nuclear warfare, it's not
the worst possibility.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, America exports twenty five percent of its grain twenty
five percent, so if America had a failure, regardless of cause,
places like Sub Saharan Africa would pay the price in
hunger in a way that other less vulnerable places would not.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
I'll give you the last word, sir.
Speaker 13 (43:25):
Most of America's grain is used for feeding cattle and livestock,
so that would be the industry worst hit. First, we'd
run out of meat, basically. But let me say this,
we can overcome all of these problems if we go
to renewable food. We need to go to renewable food,
which is food that has not produced agriculturally, that is
climate resistant.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
And which has not grown on farmers.
Speaker 13 (43:49):
Basically, then you can feed everybody everywhere in the world safely.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
And we'll save that conversation for the next time around.
Julian Crib, I really appreciate you being here. The book
is The Coming Famine.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
If you want to.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Read it, I suggest you do and find out more
and be prepared.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Julian, thank you so much for being here. It's all fascinating,
it says.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Okay, so coming up next, John and I will have
some final thoughts on what we've learned.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Tonight, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Welcome back in America. Just a few minutes left in
this very special discussion. I've really been honored to be
joined tonight by my amazing colleague Steve Gruber.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
This is an important topic and I'm going to bring
Steve right in.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Steve, I walked away today with two incredible impressions, and
I feel like I know a lot of things being
in Washington. But when you listen to doctor Yen and
you see the little literally the program that China has
at every scientist that's going to come to the United
States signing a contract, they're given their orders, and as
she said, they act like parasites, sucking all of our
(45:01):
knowledge out of us and taking it back to that
one day they can destroy us.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's a pretty dramatic moment in the show.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
We got to educate the Americans that this is the
Chinese's plan.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
We certainly do.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Look the farmers I talk to, they know that it's
out there because they see they're buying seeds from China.
Some of the right they're buying fertilizer from China some
on them all. So they realize that as a back
and forth, and they realize these tentacles are in there.
But you look at these these pathogens being brought in
University of Michigan, for example, and this sends a chill
down their spine. They know that China has somewhere close
(45:35):
to half a million acres of farmland in America, and
that's not a significant amount, it's less than one percent.
Until you realize that it's not just the farmland. If
they want to come in and contaminate American farms, they
don't have to go to Mark Benjamins, they don't have
to go to Alex Clark's. They go right to their
own farm and put that pathogen on the on the
crops that they're growing themselves, and.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Then get them airborne.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
They know that.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
And the other thing, John is you know these pieces
of farm land that the Chinese buying up are also
close to strategic military operations for the United States military.
So that's another concerning aspect of those farmland being gobbled up.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, Listen, the Chinese are playing four dimensional chests in
hopes that they will defeat us without ever having to
fire or shot, and I think tonight we got to
see just how sophisticated their game plan is and how
vulnerable are The other thing that struck me tonight was
listening to those interviews with the farmers.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
We really are.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
More vulnerable to a famine, more vulnerable to a sudden
crop disaster than I appreciated until I heard from those farmers.
Those are pretty poignant stories.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
They really.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
I mean, there was a time in America when we
had long term storage of grain, for example. But the
way the supply chain works now you know Kellogg's or
whoever I use, Kelloggs or a Michigan company, they bring
the grain in, they push it out.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
They bring the grain and they pushed out. Then they
wait for Argentina to deliver.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
Their products because those two seasons rotate. So you've got
the American crop, then you've got the South American crop,
then you've got the Asian crop. And so the way
the supply chains work, okay, everything's great, right until there's
a miss in the supply chain. When America gets shut
down in Illinois where Mary Miller's from, or you have
a problem in Michigan or Iowa, you have a problem
(47:18):
in one of those places, and then it starts to steamroll.
The domino effect comes into place. Like Mark Benjamin mentioned,
you lose a couple of harvests, and he's told me
this for years. I've known Mark for a number of years.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
We're two failed harvests away.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
And like they also discussed and I talked about it's
America getting hit, but then it's Sub Saharan Africa, it's
Asia where they cannot.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Afford the food insecurity. They already have the ripple effect
across this planet. John is frightening.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yes, we'll say something in America we've never seen, but
the rest of the world could suffer worse than first.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
It is amazing.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
And in the sophistication of how the Chinese have set
the table in case they want to call on this option,
it is so scary. M was pretty adamant today that
Congress has to do more. They have to get in
the game. I've been learning a lot about these scientists.
I've been going literally scientists by scientists, a thousand that
come from these hostile countries, and they're now being vetted
(48:15):
for the first time.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
A lot of them get in through.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
The back door, which is nih doesn't say we're giving
an award to China. They give it to an American vendor,
and then the American vendor subcontracts, and so it's even
hidden on the books. It takes two jumps to find
the Chinese trail. The Chinese are brilliant. They're working on
one now where they go to a famous hospital chain,
they make a donation, they get in good with them,
and then all of a sudden, subcontracts coming in and
(48:38):
they're doing all this work. We would never know unless
you could look two layers down. This is a sophisticated
operation on Beijing's part.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
And let me say one thing about that. The same
thing is true in academia. When they come into the
University of Measane or Texas A and M, or the
University of Iowa, whatever the Landgran College is where they're
focusing on agriculture, they come in with big checks. All
these universities want the money because right now they're strapped
for cash, so, oh, easy money from China will take it.
We'll just kind of go with it and see what happens.
(49:08):
And it's leaving us unprotected in a perilous position because
they're in such need of the money. They're wanted to
look the other way. I think that's a problem, and
that is frightening.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
In and of itself.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, one of the FBI agents I talked to for
these stories said, we don't have an achilles hea. We
have a wallet that is our weakness. China buys their
way in and then we have an addiction. It's an
amazing thing, Steve.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
This was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
We're going to do this again next month.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
We're going to keep this conversation going and to get
some cabinet secretaries, maybe an FBI director in here.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
But we'll we team up again in another month.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
I really enjoyed this thing, and thank you for coming
up with such a great idea.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Thank you, John.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, a lot of fun. What a great journalist, so
lucky to share the network question. All right, folks, that
is it person night.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
We're going to head off to the amazing Grant Sinchwell
back tomorrow night and the men will be in the chair.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I'll be underwell to see you then.
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