The Charlie Kirk Show, November 14, 2025

Commentary on the housing market, Antifa, terrorists, Jeffrey Epstein, call in questions from members, the founders of America, Vice President JD Vance, young people, the economy, and voting         

Guests: Andy Ngo and Tiffany Justice 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
SNAP is a broken program. SNAP is full of corruption.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
We found one.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hundred and eighty six thousand dead people. We asked for
the SNAP data earlier this year has never been turned
over to the federal government.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Before.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
We had twenty nine states turn it over, mostly red states.
Twenty one states said no, thank you for In litigation
from just those twenty nine states, we have found again
almostwo hundred thousand dead people.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's just it's remarkable.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
If it wasn't for SNAP benefits, I wouldn't be able
to feed my children.

Speaker 6 (00:50):
As millions of low income Americans wait for food stamp
benefits to be fully restored, they.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Don't have anything these today in the brow.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Does it work?

Speaker 6 (00:59):
Seattle's Town International District is facing another kind of problem
around this government assistance program.

Speaker 7 (01:05):
Fraudulently using food stamp cards.

Speaker 6 (01:08):
Last month, SPD arrested eleven people in a food stamp
fraud ring, with several more suspects.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Still at large, and so your EBT card then shut down?

Speaker 6 (01:16):
Yet or investigator say homeless drug addicts were cargeted and
convinced to sell their benefit cards for cash on the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
But they say that cash.

Speaker 8 (01:24):
But then they used to buy drugs in the Chinatown
International District.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
But even after this massive bust, the hustlers are now
back in business.

Speaker 9 (01:31):
You got to only abts. Yeah, how much?

Speaker 6 (01:35):
In this frontline's turning point us a Discovery Institute joint investigation.
We went straight to the epicenter of this black market.
That's okay, well how much you want for that twenty five?

Speaker 9 (01:46):
Oh, I mean, I'll pick them bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
The moment I arrived, how do I know you got
credit on that?

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Several people offered me their foodstamp cards for pennies on
the dollar. These guys ended up arguing with you each
other because they were both competing.

Speaker 9 (02:02):
For my business.

Speaker 10 (02:02):
Well that's yours, that's his, so they.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Could feed their fentanyl addiction. Here's how it works. A
runner took me to this local grocery store, asked me
to pick out two hundred dollars worth of items and
said I could have it all for half the cost.
That's a one hundred dollars savings. I did not follow
through for obvious legal reasons. Even as I was trying

(02:28):
to leave, I was getting hounded by more foodstamp card sellers.

Speaker 11 (02:31):
He's breathing, so he's okay, but community active as Tanya,
who says, others come to Chinatown and take advantage of
the system every day.

Speaker 12 (02:41):
You know what the secle looks like.

Speaker 13 (02:43):
You know, there's folk taking out to the narrages, people who.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
Are addicted, creating an ecosystem of crime and chaos. Out
of all the neighborhoods in the city, the CID consistently
ranks in the top three for fights, shootings, and drug.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Deals were overwhelmed.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
Who says the Trump administration, along with state leader or
should use this downtime to find a better way to
enforce foodstamp fraud.

Speaker 12 (03:04):
We all want the same thing.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
We all want this to sell, which by some estimates
caused taxpayers more than ten billion dollars per year versus
a all that soda. If there is one silver lining
to foodstamps being cut, If you don't have EVT cards, Brandon,
what are you going to do? Neighbors in this area
say they've seen less illegal activity on the streets.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know that's selling it the league, right.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, and it's picking AQLA.

Speaker 12 (03:24):
So now I couldn't even if.

Speaker 9 (03:26):
I wanted to it.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
But who says it's only a matter of time before
it all comes roaring back.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
There should be peasants here, counts and presents.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
But they're no officers there.

Speaker 10 (03:36):
Right now yep.

Speaker 12 (03:37):
And where they were seeing officers.

Speaker 14 (03:39):
Here fortunately, and we know Keuth Partner is overwhelm.

Speaker 13 (03:42):
There are so many far left people who run the
Democratic Party in Washington, d C.

Speaker 9 (03:47):
They just want to burn it down.

Speaker 13 (03:48):
They don't care if the troops don't get paid. They
don't care if you cost billions of dollars in loss productivity.
They don't care if you shut down the airline industry,
which they were very close close to doing. They just
want to get Trump, and they don't care if they
have to burn the entire country down in order to
get Trump.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
That's what they want to do.

Speaker 13 (04:05):
I don't understand the psychology of a Democrat who says
we'd like to burn the country down in order to
get Donald Trump. But unfortunately it just drives home that's
what their party is about.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I think some people might say Charlie Kirk's rhetoric was extreme,
these kinds of words lead to violence.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Free speech.

Speaker 15 (04:24):
I'm an absolute free speech guy, and you have the
right to say these things, and you definitely also have
the right not to get shut by sharing your views.

Speaker 9 (04:35):
We're going to win the midterms.

Speaker 13 (04:36):
We're going to do everything that we can to win
the midterms, and then after that, I'm gonna sit down
with the present of the United States and talk to
him about it. We've got well over a year to
do as much as we can for the American people.
The question that I try to ask myself is what
is good for the President, the administration and the American
people right now? That's what I have to be focused on.
And I think so long as I do that again,

(04:57):
politics to take care of itself.

Speaker 16 (05:00):
Arlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 10 (05:06):
From every angle, but the will to deceive if you're not.

Speaker 17 (05:09):
He found the place for truth, the voice of a
generation that still has the will to believe in the
greatest country in the history of the world. This is
the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here.

Speaker 18 (05:22):
We go on.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
All right, Welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 19 (05:26):
I'm Andrew Colvett joined by Mikey McCoy in the studio.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Again we get you like, what is this the third
time this week?

Speaker 20 (05:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, oh you I love it.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's great. Mikey McCoy. We also have Blake nef I
think he is. Uh are we working today?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Is it working?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's working, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 21 (05:49):
Now follow up question, the follow up question, is it
Mikey McCoy or Michael McCoy because he can only be one.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I don't know what it is actually anymore.

Speaker 12 (05:59):
So oh, okay, that's how it's I'm just gonna rip name.

Speaker 19 (06:04):
There is a new conspiracy theory that Mikey's name is
not Mikey.

Speaker 10 (06:09):
Well, this is news to me.

Speaker 19 (06:10):
Question yea, what does it say on your birth certificate Michael, Thomas,
McCoy and McCoy.

Speaker 21 (06:19):
You're adding a whole additional name here, Thomas. You yeah,
it doesn't sound you know that sounds suspicious. My middle
name is also Thomas.

Speaker 10 (06:27):
Is look at us.

Speaker 19 (06:30):
I always thought it was perfect because when I was
becoming a Christian, I was like, I really struggled.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
So I didn't become a.

Speaker 19 (06:36):
Christian to I was in college. I mean I was born,
I was born born in baptized, Catholic and all that stuff.
And when I went to college, I became a Christian
and I struggled with doubts, which I think is a
really normal thing to do. And I always thought it
was perfect because it was doubting Thomas. There you go, Yeah,
show me the wounds.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Lord.

Speaker 19 (06:52):
Anyways, that was not where I planned to take this
of the show. Anyways, Blake, Blake is a Blake is
still on assignment traveling the Eastern Seaboard.

Speaker 20 (07:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
So we're glad he could make it.

Speaker 19 (07:06):
And thanks to our friends at Real America's Voice DC
for making a home for for Blake here today.

Speaker 20 (07:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I want to get into I do. I'm going to get.

Speaker 19 (07:15):
Into this idea that they are listening to you there.
I think there was a sense in the last couple
of weeks that the administration was messaging, their messaging was off,
that they weren't on on point, they weren't focused. And
I believe that we are seeing every single sign that
you could ask for that they are listening.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Now, more needs to be done.

Speaker 19 (07:36):
I'm not this is not you know, success moving on situation,
but I will.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I want to. I want to hammer it home because
now there.

Speaker 19 (07:44):
Is multiple pieces of evidence that we can glean from
to show that there has been a messaging pivot, that
they hear the concerns, the consternations, the anxieties of the base,
the people that watch this show the people who watched
War Room before it that listen to us on the radio,
that they are hearing you. And I think it's really
really important that we give credit where it's due. You

(08:06):
can't just be a voice that is complaining all the
time without offering solutions without also giving praise word it's due.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
And so I just want to say that.

Speaker 19 (08:16):
So we talked a lot about and I went on
Bannon's War Room yesterday. Charlie had given a six points,
you know, checklist. It was a punch list of what
we need to do to restore the social compact with
gen Z and that included mass deportations, that included building
ten million million homes, crushing the college cartel, ending H

(08:37):
one B scam, ending diversity visas and lottery, and then
also dramatically reducing legal immigration. Now we're not on that
one yet, but listen to this.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
So JD there it is. That's the tweet. So listen
to this.

Speaker 19 (08:55):
JD Vance speaks with Sean Hannity, and listen to this
and tell me if you don't, if you can't, also
confirm that they have in fact got the memo three
fifty three.

Speaker 13 (09:08):
A lot of young people are saying housing is way
too expensive.

Speaker 9 (09:13):
Why is that?

Speaker 13 (09:14):
Because we flooded the country with thirty million illegal immigrants
who were taking houses that ought by right go to
American citizens. And at the same time, we weren't building
enough new houses to begin with, even for the population
that we had.

Speaker 9 (09:27):
So what we're doing is trying to.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Make it easier to build houses.

Speaker 13 (09:31):
Trying to make it easier to build factories and things
like that so that people have good jobs. We're also
getting all of those illegal aliens out of our country,
and you're already seeing it start to pay some dividends.

Speaker 19 (09:43):
So what are those dividends that we're seeing, Blake, I
want you to chime in here on this. Let's go
ahead and show three forty six. This is us rent
prices are declining. We have three months in a row
marking the steepest October decrease in fifteen year years. So
you see that on the right side of your screen
for those watching on radio listening on radio, on the

(10:06):
right side of the screen, you see three months in
a row where rent prices are decreasing. Now, now, Blake,
this is not like, this is not huge. I think
it's what is it? Down point three to one percent
month over month in October. But that's the steepest October
decrease in fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
What do you make of this?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, it's well, so it's it's a decrease.

Speaker 21 (10:26):
It's in rentals, which I think the thing we're flagging is, uh,
what have we complained about so much of the last
few years. We've complained about illegal immigration, We've complained about
too much immigration, and those people who are coming in,
who are coming in as illegal immigrants, as guest workers,
as low wage labor, they're typically going into the rental market,
and so if we're seeing declines there, that's probably an

(10:49):
indication that you know, we recently had the news that
the foreign born population of the US is actually falling
for the first time basically in living memory, and that's
going to have an impact on the housing market, which
has so consistently been able to count on just kind
of an endless flot of new people from abroad. And
if we can lower the constant demand pressure on housing,

(11:11):
which we've seen drive up prices in Canada, in the UK,
in all a bunch of other countries, we'll hopefully get
lower rental prices and that will translate over time into
lower prices for a normal entry level home. All of
you know, housing kind of all flows together in terms
of its impact on prices, and I think we're we're
seeing that now.

Speaker 19 (11:31):
Yeah, And I think to your point, I think we've
seen approximately two million, maybe slightly more deportations and self deportations.
So we actually have less people in the continental US
than we had at the beginning of Trump's presidency, which
is huge, and that isn't despite the fact that we're
still allowing for one to one point two million new

(11:53):
green cards that are legal immigrants to the country every year,
a number that I think should be at least slashed
in half, if not a full moratory, I'd be totally
down with a full more torn But it's not just
it's not just surging new homes where the admin is
listening to us. Let's play three sixty four. This is
Harmeat Dylan, Assistant Attorney General. She's in the Civil Rights Office,

(12:15):
and she saw all of the chaos, all of the
violence that came out of UC Berkeley. And I want
to give her kudos here because she's actually taking the
initiative and she's going after these thugs that targeted our
Turning Point USA event at UC Berkeley play cut three
sixty four.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Antifa is a terrorist organization. The chapter here is called
by any means necessary.

Speaker 12 (12:38):
I've sued them and been involved with them as well.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
But there's also UC Berkeley is legally on notice based
on the prior litigation and the settlement about this exact
type of event. And Third, at the Civil Rights Division,
we're in charge of how the police treat the citizens,
and the police in Berkeley seem to think this is
kind of a.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Sport or a joke.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Equal protection under the Constitution requires that you treat citizens equally,
including if you don't agree with their viewpoints. And so
at all three levels and maybe more, we have some
serious problems and we're going to be deeply engaged in
a legal action here, I suspect very soon.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
And not only that. And you've got to remember the.

Speaker 19 (13:21):
Gentleman that pulled the trigger and assassinated our friend, Charlie
Kirk had bela chow and hey, fascist catch on bullet
casings that authorities collected.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
This is Antifa. These are Antifa slogans.

Speaker 10 (13:37):
This you know.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I'm not saying he was a card carrying member.

Speaker 19 (13:40):
I'm saying that these ideologies spread, they're decentralized, and go
ahead and throw this up. This is three point fifty
two Marco Rubio, State Department Secretary of State has designated
Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization. And we're going to
bring in Andy no who is probably the most accomplished,

(14:02):
longest running journalist in the space covering Antifa and all
its different permutations and geographies, and he's gonna explain why
this is important from a legal standpoint because, as you,
as he will explain, there is one thing to sign
an executive order designating Antifa as a domestic terror organization,

(14:23):
but this unlocks extraordinary legal powers when you're able to say, hey,
they are a foreign terrorist organization as well. So across
the board we've got more examples. We are seeing the
ADMIN take action on the things that we've been talking
about on the show, that you've been talking about emailing
us about freedom at Charliekirk dot com. We're gonna read
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(14:46):
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gonna welcome back radio in one second. All right, welcome
back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Blake Nef, Mikey McCoy,
Andrew Colvett. We got an email from Melissa Michael.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Do you have you still have that?

Speaker 9 (17:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (17:38):
Yeah, this is pretty good.

Speaker 9 (17:40):
I love it.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
I was actually like, yes, please stop calling Tyler Robinson
the gentleman who killed Charlie gentlemen. Come on, guys, He's
a thug, murderer and a sick, demented freak.

Speaker 19 (17:51):
My message to Melissa agreed, noted, noted, agreed, Uh, yes, agreed.
So the change will be made, absorbed, internalized.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Thank you, Blake.

Speaker 19 (18:05):
I want to get your reaction to a clip, because
again you have to give credit where it's due. When
people are actually listening to you. We have to not
only be a squeaky wheel that gets the grease. We
have to say thank you for listening.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
All right.

Speaker 19 (18:18):
This is Steven Miller, who I think just absolutely nailed
it three seventy five.

Speaker 22 (18:24):
We're focusing relentlessly on affordability. So President Trump's working to
bring down the cost of living even more than he
already has. So Thanksgiving meals are going to be twenty
five percent cheaper. But President Trump is not content with that.
He is fighting to bring down the cost of every
single consumer and household good. And the tax bill is
going to be a huge part of this. Because when
we make life more affordable for our companies, for domestic industry,

(18:47):
for domestic manufacturing with one hundred percent expensing, with the
largest tax cuts in history, then prices are going to
keep coming down.

Speaker 19 (18:55):
And proof proof, Blake, I'll get your sorry. I've decided
I wanted to lean two together. Three sixty eight.

Speaker 23 (19:03):
Target is dropping prices ahead of the holidays. The company
announcing reduced costs on three thousand food, beverage and essential
items starting this month. Target is also bringing back it's
Thanksgiving meal at its lowest price ever. The deal gives
customers a complete dinner with all your holiday favorites for
less than five dollars per person.

Speaker 21 (19:25):
All right, Blake, thoughts, so I don't want to overreact
to a specific Target.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
It's good.

Speaker 12 (19:32):
I'm glad they're doing it, but it's it's one store.

Speaker 21 (19:36):
I think I'm more more optimistic about seeing the fall
in rental prices, which some people are saying, Oh, that
might be a concern too, and you know, people have
their leverage, you know, rental unit whatever. But the point
is is, like, what if people complain, They've complained prices
are high, so you want to look at the high
level things.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
What do they spend the most on.

Speaker 21 (19:54):
The biggest expense for the vast majority of people is
their housing, and right now the cost to get a
rental in the United States is going down everywhere in
the country. In the long run, people will feel that
the drop is actually not a lot. But you know,
we also have inflation. So if you're holding even, if
the price of housing is holding even and.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Inflation is going up a few.

Speaker 21 (20:18):
Percent a year, that's effectively like a three percent cut
in the cost of housing. And people have seen it
only go up for years and years on end, especially
since COVID, and I think we're seeing where once you
stop the endless flood of demand into the country.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Things are getting better, things are getting more affordable.

Speaker 10 (20:37):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you, Blake.

Speaker 8 (20:38):
I'm actually more interested in seeing rents drop, but then
also how many homes we're building.

Speaker 10 (20:43):
Interest rates dropping.

Speaker 8 (20:45):
The biggest win for the economy and for young people
in general is just deportations. Two million plus deportation self deportations.
This has a direct impact on cost, going down on rent,
going down on affordability, just in general in the United States.
But then also as a young couple, there's something about

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buying a house, being able to walk around your neighborhood
safely with the you know, back in your psyche, knowing
that there's less illegals now, there's less criminals in this
country now. But then also back to just Antifa, I
want to really praise Harmeat Dylan and also the FBI
who put out the website for tips. We at the

(21:26):
same time as we're deporting all these illegals and criminals
in our country, we want to find the active criminals
that are part of Antifa, and we're going to keep
talking about that later in the show. But we want
justice for that. And the administration is on point on
multiple fronts with housing deportations.

Speaker 19 (21:45):
Well, think about it, think about it from this perspective.
You know, about a year ago, we were our FBI
was targeting us, Yeah, you know, turning point, USA was
getting spied on. Yeah, and now the FBI is putting
out tip lines to target to find you know, Antifa thugs, Yeah,
that we're attacking, assaulting, and trying to disrupt our event

(22:09):
in UC Berkeley.

Speaker 8 (22:10):
Yeah, and how fast they came after the January six ers.
But we're gonna come after the real Antifa criminals fast.
We're gonna find each and every one of you with
GEO tracking, if you spit on our attendees, if you
attacked our attendees, like this is disgusting stuff that happened
two months after Charlie's assassination at our event at Berkeley.

(22:31):
This is We're not going to stand for it. We're
very upset and we want to see accountability and justice.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know, Blake, just real quick.

Speaker 19 (22:40):
Actually, Danny on our team makes a good point that
according to the polls you know, you're right, Rent is
probably a larger bucket of cost for the average person.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
But from a pure polling.

Speaker 19 (22:53):
Standpoint three seventy eight you show this it's bipartisan that
the number one issue for most people is inflation, cost
of living, and that is cost of goods, groceries, gas.
Those sorts of things tend to leave potentially a bigger
emotional impact so for what it's worth, Andy no on
Antifa next.

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at the White House for the signing of the President's

(24:50):
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are aging out of foster care. The order also creates
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Speaker 1 (27:00):
I'm very excited about.

Speaker 19 (27:02):
The next guest that we're going to have on the
show here, and that is Andy Know. He's a reporter
for the Post Millennial. He's also the author of the
book Unmasked Inside Antifa's radical plan to destroy Democracy and
you can also check out his writings at No Comment,
which I think is great. But it's nngocomment dot com.
It's a substack ngocomment dot com.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Andy no Welcome to the Charliekirk Show. It's good to
see you, my friend.

Speaker 10 (27:29):
Thank you so much for helping me on.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's been it's been a while.

Speaker 19 (27:32):
I haven't seen you for many moons now, Andy, but
it's great to see you and great to have you.
And you've been doing tremendous work covering I mean you've
always done tremendous work covering Antifa. You've been one of
the most fearless journalists about this, and you have a
new piece where you're talking about this huge development where
Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Trump administration have

(27:55):
designated them as a foreign terrorist organization, and you have
a great write up on The Post Millennial about this.
Explain to our audience that might be a little unsure
of why this is important versus the previous executive order
that designated a domestic terror group.

Speaker 20 (28:14):
Thank you for having me on. So when I spoke
at the White House round table on Antifa, I, one
of the things that I suggested to the President and
his cabinet that they could do is to look at
the international networks and organizations within Antifa and to designate
the applicable ones as ftos foreign terrorists organizations. And why

(28:38):
that's so important is because unlike the categorization of domestic terrorism,
there's actually legislation and a legal category of a foreign
terrorist organization. And the announcement from Secretary Rubio with Antifa

(28:58):
AUS and three other European based Antifa groups and networks
being declared ftos, these are now on the same category
as isis, as al Qaeda, and other prescribed terrorist groups
that your listeners and viewers may have heard of. This
is very different than when people in the administration talking
about Antifa being domestic terrorists. And the key difference is

(29:22):
that there's actually no legal category in the US for
domestic terrorism in terms of like a group cannot be
declared that way.

Speaker 10 (29:33):
And then be banned.

Speaker 20 (29:35):
So the executive Order describes Antifa as such, but it's
not like a law that would ban providing support for
Antifa domestically or to have membership in a violent group
that's within the Antifa network. And that's because the First
Amendment protections. I'm speaking to you from London now and
in my travels in the UK and Europe, when I

(29:58):
speak to liberals or leftists, they say, well, home, the
US hasn't banned the KKK or like neo Nazi groups.
And the reason is the First Amendment has been interpreted
through the courts to provide very wide protections for associations.
So but that doesn't mean that the executive orders and

(30:20):
what the administration now is doing domestically doesn't matter. There's
been very importantly at the federal level. The dj was
able to get two indictments against alleged members of an
anti fos CEL in North Texas, indicted on providing materials
support to terrorism, you see, So like that, that's where

(30:42):
that focus that the administration has on anti fund terrorism
matters rather than the label of domestic terrorists.

Speaker 10 (30:50):
But going back to.

Speaker 20 (30:51):
FTO, it's it's it's the first time in US history
that the US government has declared any Antifa associated group
as being officially terrorists.

Speaker 19 (31:05):
So yeah, and you write in the Postmoliennity you said
the FTO label is not symbolic. It's a legal tool
under US law, enabling sanctions against individuals associated with the
group's asset, freezes, travel bands, and criminal penalties for membership
or providing material support. In short, it's how it's now
a federal crime to belong to or assist the four

(31:26):
violent Antifa anarchist groups that were labeled. And there's some
in Greece and Italy and Germany that you that you
outline in there.

Speaker 16 (31:34):
Now.

Speaker 19 (31:34):
I want to bring our attention back domestically, though, Andy,
because at this UC Berkeley event, I noticed that they're
at least from the videos I saw, there wasn't many
of these Antifa thugs wearing black block.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Right.

Speaker 19 (31:47):
It is intentionally decentralized. It is intentionally without hierarchy, at
least you know, on a spreadsheet an org chart. Right, So,
what is the way that these groups are organized domestically
and they're going to they're going to shift their tactics
as the government attempts to crack down on them. Where

(32:08):
do you see this going and what can you just
explain to us about the hierarchy question.

Speaker 20 (32:15):
So, for the last five years, within the organized militant
Antifa American groups such as Rose City Antifa and other
groups that are within the Torch Antifa network in cities
like New York, Asheville, Philadelphia, they've moved more underground. You'll
see that they have been posting a lot less on
social media when they have had a presence that direct actions,

(32:38):
they no longer show the logos and symbols of their
particular organization, and I think that's because they've seen in
some jurisdictions there's been ongoing domestic terrorism investigations, like in
the state of Georgia where sixty one people were indicted

(32:58):
on domestic terrorism arges. There was a cell in San
Diego County where twelve members of SoCal Antifa were convicted
either at trialed or through plea deals. So they're trying
to go underground and bunker down until there's a Democrat

(33:20):
administration where they can come out. But whether or not
they're underground, it doesn't mean they don't exist and they
don't organize, and a lot of the terrorism that Antifa
does involves people who are actually not going to their
meetings or have not been through their particular cell betting process.
And that's the decentralized nature of a lot of terrorist

(33:42):
groups actually internationally as well, in that they put out
the ideology online or there are certain social media accounts
that put out the propaganda and the goal is to
get fellow travelers, sympathizers or ideologues to go and do something.
Just show up, show up and commit violence. And I
think that was seen in some part at what happened

(34:06):
at UC Berkeley. This is their playbook. They call the
targets fascists and Nazis and use inflammatory rhetoric and lies
and get a mob to show up and create an
environment where people their comrades are encouraged to commit assaults
or intimidate or harass or to rob their particular targets.

(34:28):
And going back to the four groups that have been
declared ftos, I think it's important to talk about what
they have done.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
In Europe.

Speaker 20 (34:36):
These groups have not been proscribed because of ideology, and
if people read my article piece or they look at
what the State Department put out. One of the groups
is Antifa aust which translates to Antifah East in their
Germany based Antifa group, where their method of attack is

(34:56):
to mob beat their targets with batons and hammers and
to go specifically for breaking bones, smashing schools open. Some
of their members have been convicted of aggravated assault and
attempt the murder. Some of the other groups that were
declared ftos based in Italy and in Greece have been

(35:16):
involved in bombings and shootings, shootings of CEOs, and bombings
of police stations. So these are terrorist groups, and yet
we still see some leftists coming out unsurprisingly to defend
Antifa in the wake of this announcement from the State Department.

Speaker 8 (35:34):
Yeah, I looking at the FBI's definition for terrorism, it's
the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or
property to intimidate or coerce the government, civilian population, or
any segment thereof in furtherance of.

Speaker 10 (35:46):
Political or social objectives.

Speaker 8 (35:47):
So there, if it's the definition of terrorism, that's exactly
what we saw.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
UC Berkeley.

Speaker 8 (35:52):
Charlie used to always say that people would hide their
face when they secretly know that what they're doing is wrong.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
And so these people know that what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (35:59):
Is wrong, you really know that this is terrorism, But
my question to you, Andy is how are these people
communicating with each other? They have a tendency to show
up in mass numbers. Who's secretly funding this stuff? How
are they all getting funded? I just don't feel like
we always get the answers to this. I'd love any
insight that you have on that.

Speaker 20 (36:20):
So the communications amongst the cells is primarily done through signal,
and we can know that by looking at what's come
out at trials and in criminal indictments. Going back to
the Texas terror attack on the Ice facility in Alvarado
on the fourth of July, they were able to get

(36:41):
into the signal communications of the members of this North
Texas Anti FACL and each one had aliases. And in
the sole Cal Antifa case in San Diego last year,
when that went to trial, the evidence came out signal
was also used. That is primarily the mode of communication.
They use Berna phones leases obviously, and then they create

(37:02):
ad hoc group chats for different purposes on signal. Regarding
the funding, there's always an exus of registered nonprofits and
azer no money. As a good piece that came out
two days ago on Fox News about one of the
nonprofits that was involved in organizing the UC Berkeley direct action.

(37:30):
But a lot of the funding is also through essentially
what's just crowdfunding. The extreme far left are great at crowdfunding.
They create gofundmes, they have cash app handles, Venmo handles,
PayPal even.

Speaker 9 (37:47):
And those types.

Speaker 20 (37:49):
So a lot of it is done in places that
law enforcement can be can track and in my reporting,
and what I hope that the FBI starts paying attention
to now that they have a directive from the executive
that antifa's domestic our domestic terrorists, is to look into

(38:10):
the sources of funding. We're not talking about dark money
and crypto and things like that, although that may be
part of it. For the most part, it's true people
organizing these campaigns and sharing the lanks. You, you and
your listeners and mirrors are familiar with those huge fundraisers
to raise bail money.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
For advice suspects.

Speaker 19 (38:30):
Yeah, we're we're coming up against the heartbreak. I wish
we had you for more time. But that's Andy No
reported for the Post Millennial, author of Unmasked, and you
can check them out at a substack no comment, NGO comment.
Thank you Andy No. So good to see.

Speaker 17 (38:42):
You speaking the truth. No one else that's the guts
to say the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 19 (38:57):
All right, welcome back to Charlie Kirkshow got Blake Nef
Mikey McCoy here with us as well. I'm going to
play a piece from Charlie and actually there's I see
two numbers here. It's the video ck on why Antifa,
Why he considers Antifa terrorists three seventy seven.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Let's play it.

Speaker 26 (39:19):
I do call the protesters outside terrorists outside of say
one broken window, Well.

Speaker 27 (39:25):
It's more than one broken window, assaulting cops, spray painting,
the death threats that they throw at me, the violent intimidation.

Speaker 10 (39:31):
But that's not what you think.

Speaker 26 (39:33):
It's bigoted to call all protesters who are outside as terrorists.

Speaker 27 (39:36):
Why is it bigoted? They're mostly white liberals without jobs.

Speaker 26 (39:40):
You're calling all protesters terrorists.

Speaker 27 (39:42):
I'm calling Antifa out there that are anonymizing their identity,
sending death threats to my family, smashing windows and spray
painting the campus the entire week leading up to this
terrorist Yes, I absolutely stand by.

Speaker 26 (39:53):
That A lot of them are just call it students
who don't agree with the point of view that you're.

Speaker 27 (39:57):
Propagatd maybe they should have come to the front of
the line and asked a question like you and not
acted like somebody in a third in a third world
country where they settle their differences with gang violence.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Blague feel free.

Speaker 21 (40:14):
He was just so great, and it just it discuss
me that these parasites are just like it discussed me
that these parasites and Antifa like are basically free in
any blue city to roam around and terrorize people. And
like it feels trite, and yet the truth is they're
basically a modern KKK in the truest sense. Look at

(40:36):
what the original KKK did. They were basically a menacing group.
They would go around, they would intimidate people, terrorize them.
We have a bill, we have the ku Klux Klan Act,
and what it's designed to do is it's designed to
go after groups that intimidate people who want to vote,
who want.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
To use their freedom of speech, and.

Speaker 21 (40:54):
Instead, like we had it used against these I think
they used it against.

Speaker 12 (40:59):
Freakin Douglas because he made a meme that Hillary Clinton
didn't like.

Speaker 21 (41:02):
Why don't we use it against Santifa? They're a terrorist
group to suppress freedom of speech. They should be treated
that way.

Speaker 19 (41:09):
Well said, yeah, we're going to welcome back Radio in
about five seconds. Stay right there, all right, Welcome back
to the Charlie Kirkshaw. I want to get to a
piece of news here, Blake and Mikey where we talked

(41:32):
about Epstein yesterday and it's been this really beautiful thing
to watch because there was an allegation that Jeffrey Epstein
said he spent Thanksgiving with President Trump in twenty seventeen, which,
by the way, I think he was kicked out of
mar A Lago in two thousand and seven, declared a
child predator in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
And yet you know, Bill Clinton and all.

Speaker 19 (41:54):
These types kept hanging out with him, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton,
Prince Andrew, all these types of types, Larry Summers, apparently
there's a bunch of people that still hung out with him.
As far as we know, Trump was not one of them. Okay,
but there has been volley after valley trying to tie
President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein and this House Oversite Democrat

(42:16):
House Oversight Committee.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
They leaked these these emails trying to do it.

Speaker 19 (42:22):
Now they're deleting them, which is just so rich, so
put up image three sixty six. This was from the Democrats,
literally the ex account the Democrats, says new document show
Donald Trump spent Thanksgiving with Jeffrey Epstein in twenty seventeen.
At the time, Trump was already president Epstein already a
convicted sex offender.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Well, they deleted that.

Speaker 19 (42:44):
And it's not just the Democrats handle, it's CNN is
backtracking as well.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Play cut three fifty seven.

Speaker 28 (42:53):
And we do want to be clear the President Trump
did not receive or send any of the messages which
Larlie predated his time as president. He's not been accused
of any criminal wrongdoing in connection with Epstein or Maxwell.

Speaker 19 (43:06):
Oh okay, so that is legal ease. By the way,
you know, somebody from corporate was like, please say the
following and read this verbatim.

Speaker 10 (43:17):
This is so great.

Speaker 8 (43:18):
And then and then you have people going back and
finding Milania Trump's tweet.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, yeah, we're a Thanksgiving. We had to put up
three eighty four. So yeah, this is so good. Yeah,
so this is President Trump.

Speaker 19 (43:29):
This Melanias is thrilled to spend part of our Thanksgiving
with the local Coastguard station in Florida.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Thank you all.

Speaker 19 (43:34):
Thank you to all the members of the military who
keep us safe. Happy Thanksgiving twenty seventeen, and here you
got Jeffrey Epstein, a known liar, convicted liar, saying, Ah,
I don't worry, I spent Thanksgiving with Trump.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Go ahead.

Speaker 21 (43:47):
Well, it just it blows my mind. And I don't
even think he really said they. If you look at
the exchange, it's just like where are you? He says
a place, and he's like, who else is there? And
he kind of rattles off some names, and so it's
sort of like bigger picture, other people are there.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
But it's also just the entire.

Speaker 21 (44:02):
Thing is so stupid to go through your head that
as president of the United States, Donald Trump would be
like able to go anywhere in the United States on
a holiday like Thanksgiving, where his every movement is very
closely tracked. Everyone knows where he is. There's all these
rituals that the president does on Thanksgiving, and then he

(44:22):
would secretly hang out.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
With Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 21 (44:25):
It's just it's there's a word I get in trouble
when I use on this show.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
It's it's really stupid. It's really stupid.

Speaker 19 (44:34):
I just I just think it's amazing that time after
time after time. So what I mean, let's track the
providence of this, of this whole debate that we're having.
So Joe Biden was president for four years. Yeah, we
didn't hear a peep about Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump becomes
president and the base of the Republican Party starts getting

(44:55):
very interested in it, trying to expose a child predator. Yeah,
and you know, there's some there's some back and forth.
Let's just say there's a little bit of a row
on the right when it comes to what would what
to do with these docs in the base wanting more.
It's only then that the Democrats are like, hmm, maybe
we can hop on here.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
We're gonna get involved in this.

Speaker 19 (45:15):
So then James comer a Republican subpoena is the Epstein
estate to get these emails. They come during a government shutdown.
They don't coordinate a leak or anything like that. What
are a release of it? They leak three very suspicious,
highly selective emails out of a trove of twenty thousand,

(45:37):
and every single one of them has basically been debunked, ridiculed,
and they have had egg on their face completely as
a result of this, including the fact that they they
redacted the name of Virginia Guffrey, who testified under oath
that President Trump did nothing wrong and then had And
by the way, we played a clip yesterday, I have

(45:57):
a woman talking about that Virginia Guffery wanted President Trump
to be elected because of the transparency with the Jeffrey
Epstein case.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
And that was actually her biographer. Apparently it was a
representative for her.

Speaker 19 (46:08):
So this whole thing has blown up in their face.
They were trying to distract from the shutdown, which they
got nothing except throwing the country to chaos, and now
they have egg on their face.

Speaker 8 (46:18):
And this is like their fifth time around the Epstein
it's the fifth time that it's amounted to nothing. But
they just kind of bring it up again their gluttons reunishment. Yeah, exactly,
they got nothing new under it.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Blake take us home twenty seconds.

Speaker 21 (46:32):
It's just the whole thing has become this. It's like
a parody unto itself because.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
I will actually feel bad.

Speaker 21 (46:41):
People have pointed out in the emails where we should pause,
we should dial back because we're laughing here. But we
should remember this is a bad guy who hurt a
lot of people, And in DC there's just a lot
of people who've decided it only matters in the sense
of how they can hurt one specific guy, well said
our two ask us anything coming up.

Speaker 18 (47:00):
We'll be right back, folks, the.

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(50:20):
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top of the move, on top of not having the
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We have two little kids, and it was and I
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It wasn't their fault, but that's part of the emotions, right,
Like you're so stressed out, you're just like you kind
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found out about this through a letter in the mail,
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Speaker 1 (52:59):
That joined us in uh.

Speaker 19 (53:00):
And yet you too, Tyler, Tyler Boyer has joined us.

Speaker 21 (53:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 19 (53:04):
But you have brought a very special guest with us.
So why don't you introduce Tiffany for us.

Speaker 30 (53:09):
Yeah, we have the head of everything political over at
Heritage Heritage Action. So those of you that know Heritage Foundation, UH,
probably one of the longest standing brands within the conservative
movement that was loved, beloved by President Reagan, that was
beloved by Rush Limbaugh.

Speaker 17 (53:26):
Uh.

Speaker 30 (53:27):
That obviously is they have Action, great partner they've been
They've had Action for many, many years. But the new
leader is Tiffany Justice, who is here with us on
campus today and we're just working through, you know, all
the things.

Speaker 10 (53:39):
So welcome Tiffany. We're excited to have you on the
Charlie Kirschow.

Speaker 19 (53:42):
Tiffany is also famous for being the co founder of
Moms for Liberty which you've.

Speaker 10 (53:48):
You've SPLC's worst NIGHTMAREAG.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yeah, yeah, I hate to say you got the hate room.
You got the hate.

Speaker 30 (53:55):
Moms are so hateful when you don't clean your room
and you don't vacuum. Yeah, you don't take out the trash,
you don't eat what you're supposed to. But I don't
think that's what the SPLC meant.

Speaker 7 (54:05):
No, they messed with the wrong moms.

Speaker 10 (54:06):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 30 (54:07):
So she's the co founder, tons of the brains that
she's brought over to lead Heritage Action into really a
new era. I don't know if you just want to
talk about that just for a second with Kevin Roberts,
who's a brilliant doctor. Kevin Roberts, who's a brilliant man
over Heritage we love them to death.

Speaker 10 (54:25):
And Tiffany now really muscle.

Speaker 31 (54:29):
Yeah, I'm really excited to join Heritage and to inspired
by the work that you guys do at Turning Point Action, right,
A lot of federal lobbing that Heritage Action has done,
some state lobbying that they've done since twenty nineteen, but
really expanding the portfolio now and making sure that we're
getting out the vote. Americans want to be empowered to
take our country back, so excited to kind of emulate

(54:50):
some of what Turning Point Action is done across the
country at Heritage Action.

Speaker 30 (54:53):
And that's what's really critical is everyone has to be
focused on Nothing will matter, nothing will get done if
we don't get out the vote and actually win, as
we saw last Tuesday when we had some dramatic losses
because not enough GOOTV was done on our side and
in specific states where we don't necessarily operate full time.

Speaker 10 (55:12):
But those are places that need a lot of help.

Speaker 31 (55:14):
So, yeah, blown away by the amount of money that
Democrats spent in the House of Delicate Races in Virginia,
like sixty eight million to Republicans twenty five. So something
has to change, and Heritage Action is going to help
to try to change it.

Speaker 19 (55:24):
Wow, And a lot of people like, on a very
basic level, I think our audience would get this. But
you know, if you're kind of a noormy, you're just
out there, you're not really political understanding the difference between
a C three and like a C four, for example,
turning Point USA C three. So a lot of people
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do our ballot chasing. It's where we do our scorecards,
where we endorse candidates. It's completely different and separate from
turning point USA.

Speaker 31 (55:54):
Yeah, I mean I would say about heritage and foundation
and action. I think of the Heritage Foundation as like
the chef that makes a beautiful meal. All these amazing
policies that they write over a heritage foundation. But if
you don't have power, if you're not winning elections, and
that's how you get power, then you can't put any
of the policies into place.

Speaker 7 (56:09):
So they're really strategic partners.

Speaker 10 (56:11):
Yep. Power is everything.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Power is everything.

Speaker 19 (56:16):
We have a first question. I believe this is from Brandon. Brandon,
you are joining the Charlie Kirk Show.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Welcome guys, can you hear me? Yes we can. Thanks
for joining. What's your question?

Speaker 32 (56:30):
Well, I'm back with another book question. It's mainly for Blake,
but I don't know if he's still on, but.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Yes, here, I'm here. You got me, you goot me.

Speaker 32 (56:41):
So my question is what books or authors do you
recommend to learn about the Revolutionary War and the period
from seventeen seventy six to seventeen eighty nine, so before
we actually have a first president.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Alrighty oh man.

Speaker 21 (56:58):
Well, so first of all, you should never discount like
the actual legit primary sources for that sort of thing,
so like it's actually worthwhile to go and read Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson, he wrote a lot of letters, He wrote
notes on the state of Virginia. Like you hear a
lot of things about the founders, and yet they are

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real people.

Speaker 12 (57:21):
They were engaged in war, they were engaged in politics.

Speaker 21 (57:24):
They had feuds with one another that are now like
easily forgotten about, and yet like that's the lives they lived.

Speaker 15 (57:33):
You know.

Speaker 21 (57:33):
The Federalist papers of course, which were to ratify the Constitution,
but there was letters they were writing beforehand. So I
always encouraged that. I also encourage knowing what went into
the revolution. I've advocated for Albion's seat on this show before.
That's kind of about the different groups of people who
settled America in the colonial period from England. They were

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very different groups, and they shaped America.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
For the revolution itself.

Speaker 21 (57:59):
One that I like it came out around nineteen ninety
and it was the radicalism of the American Revolution, and
obviously as conservatives, we like the revolution, yet we also
have to admit it is like it was a very
radical It was a revolution. It basically top of the
monarchical government. It installed the first major kind of you

(58:19):
know it. Charlie hates the word democracy, but we founded
democratic ish governments in a lot of these states, and
that hadn't been seen in the West for two thousand years.
Hugely transformative event. And there was stuff going on during
the Revolution where they were just you know, you'd overthrow
your role governor and have this super radical state constitution,
which now these constitutions would seem conservative to us if

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we still have them, but for the.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Time, hugely, hugely.

Speaker 12 (58:48):
I'm looking at my list here a radical documents.

Speaker 21 (58:51):
Another thing just for the war itself, Empire of Liberty
was like I think the either Oxford or Cambridge.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
History of the United States. It's a whole big series.

Speaker 21 (59:00):
Their book on the American Revolution is like a just
decent one on the actual revolutionary period. I think The
Glorious Cause is also their book about the war itself.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
That's solid if you're a big toy.

Speaker 21 (59:16):
Some people really like there's like old, like extremely conservative
books that argue the Revolution was a mistake and the
loyalist should have won. I do not believe that I
disavow and I can't remember them off the top of
my head anyway, but I would be remiss if I
left them out.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
So I hope that helps a little bit.

Speaker 30 (59:32):
Blake, can I add into I think one of the things,
and we talk about this all the time. I actually
talked about this with Charlie a lot behind closed doors,
is that there isn't enough education around the anti federalist papers.
So one of the things that I would say that
is a huge mistake when that conservatives make is they
there's a lot of books writing about the Federalist papers.
There's a lot of books that that comment on the

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federalist papers. The author's many heroes of the revolution. There
are many heroes that were the writers behind the names
and the anti federalist papers. There's not actually a ton
of books written on commentary the anti federalist papers, but
they really shape what the arguments for and against which
there are many good arguments that were made about the

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mistakes and potential pitfalls of a federal government that were
made by the anti federalists at that time, and they're
not really complicated. Although there's some simple there's some simplified
versions of books that say, here's a simplified way to
explain the arguments that are made in the anti federalist papers,
especially Patrick Henry and so on. I cannot encourage enough,

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especially young people to also study anti federalist literature, especially
in private schools, charter schools, public school teachers that are teaching,
they just gloss over or they don't.

Speaker 10 (01:00:47):
Even comment on any of these things at all.

Speaker 30 (01:00:50):
And there's a lot of really important subjects that are
in there that are discussed that that framed a lot
of the problems that we see today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Blake, I have one I just got remembered.

Speaker 21 (01:00:58):
I just remembered one that was very funny because you
mentioned the anti federalists.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
There's a book.

Speaker 21 (01:01:03):
It's a bit later than the era you're asking about,
but I like it. It's called Fears of a Setting Sun,
the Disillusionment of America's Founders, and it's just it's an
interesting one to read because if you read it, it
turns out if you look at the founders in eighteen oh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Five, they're all black pilled.

Speaker 21 (01:01:19):
They think it was a total disaster what they'd done,
messed up.

Speaker 12 (01:01:24):
They're super depressed. They think it's not going to work out.

Speaker 21 (01:01:27):
That's some great perspective to have because these great men
who we know they founded this tremendous country that had
so much success, they were black piled.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
They let themselves get black pilled.

Speaker 21 (01:01:36):
And so if they, you know, if their country got
through that era where they thought it was so terrible,
we can get through periods that we think are terrible too.
So I wanted to throw that there. That's a great question.
I loved that one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, really good question.

Speaker 19 (01:01:48):
Really And by the way, Churnow, Dave McCullough, those are
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Sarah remote yourself?

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Sarah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
All right, read it.

Speaker 12 (01:05:19):
I think we know our questions. We do know our question,
so we'll read it. Because all right, and we'll see
if any of you guys have thoughts on this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
But I know I do.

Speaker 12 (01:05:27):
What is your opinion on the Conservative Party?

Speaker 10 (01:05:30):
I think I'm here?

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
There we go, There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Hey, Sarah, awesome, all right.

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I do not know what happened to my microphone on
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I've been there.

Speaker 10 (01:05:42):
Let's give us your question.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
What's your question? Sarah?

Speaker 33 (01:05:46):
Okay, so I am from Canada and my first question
I have too what is your guys opinion of the
Conservative Party of Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Well, so there's two. Let's just define terms.

Speaker 19 (01:06:00):
You're really quick here, Right, there's the Conservative Party ACCADAC CPC,
which would be Pierre's party. I forget I looked it up,
how to say it, Pierre Paul or whatever? Ye, Poly,
that's right, he would be the leader of that party.
That's going to be your more establishment wing of the
Conservative Party in Canada.

Speaker 9 (01:06:20):
Right.

Speaker 19 (01:06:20):
So then you also have the People's Party of Canada,
which is the more populous wing. So when we're saying,
what are you asking about one or the other or
just in general the Conservative Party?

Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
Yeah, I asking about like the official.

Speaker 19 (01:06:33):
CPC CPC, all right, So Tyler has actually been working
with them.

Speaker 30 (01:06:37):
Well, I've talked to a number of individuals, and there's
some just like we have in just for our Americans
that are home, just like we have some good Republicans.
They're good Republicans and they're bad Republicans. And the parties
broad based. Uh, you know, there's some good Conservatives, Conservative
Party leaders and better Conservative Party leaders that we see

(01:06:58):
across Canada that I think are leaning more towards the
things that we like, you know, I can't speak highly
enough of Danielle Smith, although I'm sure Canadians have, you know,
different varying opinions.

Speaker 10 (01:07:10):
I mean, daniel Smith, I think.

Speaker 30 (01:07:11):
Actually cares enough so much that she has been in
contact the premiere of Alberta, which to put into kind
of conceptually is kind of like all incompacy senator for
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we do at turning Point, and it has been at
the forefront of having conversations to represent I think the
more conservative wing from an elected position, and I know
that there are a great a great number of individuals
who have engaged with Conservative Party in Saskatchewan that I
have done a great job. And I think those two
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Saskatchewan are the future. And I think that the Conservative Party.
My opinion is this is that if the Conservative Party
were smart, they would consolidate their efforts two into those
two areas and then spend time with the Conservative activists
to grow from there and really wheel power as we
talk about power against the establishment, to try to actually

(01:08:20):
expand their talking points that I think are more successful,
which again, Canada combated the complete shutdown of their country
during COVID. It was like the worst parts of the
United States, just to put perspective, and I'm sure you
have some opinions on that, Sarah. And there's a number
of other different things that obviously happen at the governmental level,
the policy level, that are terrible that most of the

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resource driven individuals that live in the central parts of
Canada disagree with, particularly on the oil and the oil.

Speaker 10 (01:08:51):
Basin that exists within Alberta.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
A lot of oil by the way, in Canada.

Speaker 19 (01:08:55):
I would say this like, first of all, the establishment
wing of conservative parties right now, they're they're pesky, they
have a way of sticking around, They have a lot
of institutional backing.

Speaker 10 (01:09:05):
But they do deals with the bad guys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
They do deals with the bad guys.

Speaker 19 (01:09:08):
And here's the other thing I would say to any
conservative movement across the Western world is if you are
not tapping into the populist energy of your party, you're
gonna you're gonna miss the boat. That's where the activist
energy is. That's where uh, Sarah. I'm sure that you
probably find yourself more about a strong nation, probably limited immigration.
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it comes to conservative activists. And if you're not going
there because you're afraid that it's you know, the country's
not ready for it. I would just say look at France,
Look at uh, what do we we've got the Netherlands.
Look at the UK. What's happening in the UK right now?
The UK is so buttoned up it's it makes Canada
look like a like a third world backwater or something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I mean, they're just that's just the way the UK is.

Speaker 19 (01:09:53):
And yet Nigel Farage and reform is rising in the
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It's never.

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Schedule is crazy. Oh yeah, a lot revolves around the President.

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And then sometimes these things are last minute, sometimes are
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younger voters want. And I'm also wondering whose VP at
USA and fields it has and who the government has
to speak to the youth vote and successfully convey that
to the government.

Speaker 8 (01:17:16):
Yeah, we can we play clip three fifty three again
of JD. Van's We certainly can, Yeah, because this helps
answer that question. If we can play three fifty three.

Speaker 13 (01:17:26):
A lot of young people are saying housing is way
too expensive.

Speaker 16 (01:17:31):
Why is that?

Speaker 13 (01:17:32):
Because we flooded the country with thirty million illegal immigrants
who were taking houses that ought by right go to
American citizens, And at the same time, we weren't building
enough new houses to begin with, even for the population
that we had.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
So what we're.

Speaker 9 (01:17:46):
Doing is trying to.

Speaker 13 (01:17:47):
Make it easier to build houses, trying to make it
easier to build factories and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
So that people have good jobs.

Speaker 13 (01:17:53):
We're also getting all of those illegal aliens out of
our country and you're already seeing it start to pay
some dividends.

Speaker 8 (01:18:01):
So and love your question because it also is my
question every single week, is what can the administration do
for young people now that Charlie's gone?

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Because Charlie is our biggest advocate, and.

Speaker 8 (01:18:11):
I think Jade Vance has been kind of the mouthpiece
for that in honoring Charlie both in that interview that
he just did, but also looking back to Ole Miss
just a couple of weeks ago with you know, Vice
President Vance and Erica Kirk too, and at turning point,
we're continuing the work. But the biggest thing, and Charlie
said this all the time we talked about an hour

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one of today's show, is the biggest thing to help
young people in the short term is deportations to drive
H one B y.

Speaker 10 (01:18:41):
Yeah, And so JD.

Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
Vance understood everything that Charlie stood for when it came
to young people, and I think he's doing pretty incredible.

Speaker 19 (01:18:48):
JD has stepped up in a huge way to be that.
I think a lot of people with Chris rufo On
last week, who is saying that JD is basically the
guy that can really, you know, do that he can
sort of, you know, unite some of these warring factions
within the conservative movement, but don't I would say this also,
remember that President Trump time and time again when he

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has he'll he'll he'll send up little trial balloons, right,
and he'll he'll kind of float ideas and you never
know what three D chess he's playing. For example, with
the Chinese thing that a lot of people got riled
up about six hundred thousand Chinese visas.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
I would be one of them.

Speaker 19 (01:19:22):
However, two days later, cash Bettel says, Oh, we've just
struck a deal with the Chinese Communist Party to stop
all these precursors to fentanyl coming in the country, which,
by the way, if you really care about young people,
you want to make sure that one hundred thousand young
people every year aren't dying of fentanyl overrooses.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
And so you got to you gotta.

Speaker 19 (01:19:39):
I really do believe that we have to trust a
couple of things here, And Charlie would have said the
same thing. He said, the same thing we were bombing Iran, right,
he said, I trust President Trump. I believe that he's
got the best interests at heart of the United States
and for our people, and that includes young people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
But he's got a lot of competing interests.

Speaker 19 (01:19:56):
So we have to keep yelling and screaming and making
our voices heard. And I just want to tell you
one last thing. Here is a lot of those relationships
that Charlie was so good at within the ADMIN, within
the conservative movement, working and talking to and texting and
all this backchanneling stuff that was happening. I will just
tell you that a lot of those people when Charlie

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was assassinated, they they ended up coming to a lot
of us. And I know Tyler's in comms with a
bunch of them, Mikey's and comms.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
I'm in comms, Erica's in comms.

Speaker 19 (01:20:26):
And so those relationship, excuse me, those relationships remain intact
in some really important ways. And we're certainly still making
our voices heard, and we're still making sure that the
things that Charlie was fighting for, this gen Z economic moonshot,
this revival for the economics of young people, making sure
that they have a stake in the American dream. Those
conversations are still going. And one last thing, when you

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talk about deportations, also, you got to understand we are
climbing out of of a hole that's very, very deep.
And why because we flooded our economy with cheap money.
We deficit spent for a generation. And when you do that,
it debases the currency, it inflates asset prices like homes,
stocks for one k's and that's good for economic incumbents,
people that already have skin in the game. It's really

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bad for people trying to get into the economy as
a first rung on that economic ladder.

Speaker 21 (01:21:15):
So you say we deficit spent for a generation, Andrew like,
we're not still done.

Speaker 19 (01:21:21):
It's a fair point. And that's that's a fair point.
And that's another debate that we're having on the right
correct break that you know, what are we doing with
some of this tariff revenue? Yeah, some two thousand dollars
dividend check would be great, but you know, we really
do have to focus on this debt and the deficits.
And there's the budget hawks of DC are getting drowned
out right now.

Speaker 10 (01:21:39):
It doesn't buy you.

Speaker 21 (01:21:40):
I mean you basically, I worry truthfully that we're kind
of getting into more and more of a like delusional
state on it, like it didn't blow up in our
face as quickly as people predicted, And so you have
a lot of people who say deficits don't matter. I
think Cheney said that, now you have modern monetary theory,
which is a somewhat well, it's very modern. We can

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say that that you can just print money forever and
there's actually no downside to it. All I will say
is there are many countries that have attempted that, and
I don't know of any that have gotten away with it.

Speaker 30 (01:22:11):
So, and I want to remind everyone too, I don't
know if we've done a good enough job of this.
I don't know if the administration has done enough of this.
And they need help, right, they need all of our
help to say, remember when we were coming into this
Trump administration, that the word on the street was that
that we were heading into a massive recession, the biggest
one since you know, the Obama recession, and that that

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was going to happen, and that the entire economy was
going to crash, that the stock market was going to crash.
Remember all this that was happening in the beginning of
last year, and we have to give credit where credits due,
is that the Trump administration stabilized that situation. And of
course we still have massive problems for young people on
how affordability is going to look for the next two decades.

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The question you have to ask yourself is Trump is
are you going to trust the Trump administry turn into
maybe a JD.

Speaker 10 (01:23:01):
Vance administration to fix that, or are you going to
trust more of the.

Speaker 30 (01:23:04):
Joe Biden style policies Gamo, Newsom and Mom Donnie to
do that for you, because the answer is going to
be no.

Speaker 10 (01:23:11):
We just have to make that pitch very We have.

Speaker 19 (01:23:12):
A new clip here apparently three let's see here, I'm
seeing two clips three eighty seven or three eighty eight,
three eighty seven.

Speaker 35 (01:23:22):
The White House wants to cut a bunch of red tape,
especially the kind that holds up houses from being built,
with the argument being that the current housing inventory has
been flooded for several years with illegal immigrants. New houses
plus deportations could free up a lot of existing homes
and apartments, according to Vice President Vance.

Speaker 19 (01:23:42):
Yep that's from this morning new report this morning. So
I think I think we're we're getting there. The message
is getting through. I mean, I'm telling you this was
a pivot from a messaging standpoint that was pretty dramatic.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
When do you.

Speaker 31 (01:23:55):
Agree to any Yeah, And I just want to say
the most important thing that we can do for young
people in America to empower them to vote and to
get their friends to vote, I mean, you know, and
to run for office, right, I mean that that is
truly how long term we're going to be able to
have better policies for the future of families in America.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah, you gotta vote, gotta get out to vote.

Speaker 19 (01:24:14):
Thank you so much. And next up is Gina I believe. Yeah, Gina,
Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. What's your question?

Speaker 20 (01:24:23):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Guys, just wondering what your thoughts are on.

Speaker 36 (01:24:27):
I've seen lately them talking about the USS libertine. I
was just curious what your some of your feedback is
on some of that, and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
I can talk about that.

Speaker 21 (01:24:38):
I can talk about that those who if you haven't
heard about it. The USS liberty was an incident in
the late nineteen sixties where it was a kind of
us like spyeship sort of a signal monitoring ship. It
would sit international waters and it would monitor communications.

Speaker 12 (01:24:56):
And we'll probably have to continue into the break on this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
People ask about this all the time.

Speaker 21 (01:25:00):
And during the Six Day War between Israel and its
Arab neighbors, it was near Israel and Egypt monitoring the
situation and it gets attacked by Israeli fighter jets. It's
strafed and I think it's hit by a few bombs
or torpedoes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
And about thirty I think thirty four.

Speaker 21 (01:25:17):
US sailors actually are killed. Several hundred are wounded. Now
that's a good number, but it's also it's during the
Vietnam War, so it's you know, when we're having a
lot of military.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Casualties, and it's brought up a lot today.

Speaker 21 (01:25:29):
Charlie notably he would get trolled with attacks or not attacks,
with questions about the USS liberty from Greiper's around twenty nineteen,
and you can get a lot of questions about it,
and I'm just it's complicated. So we have fifteen seconds here.
I'll continue this once we get into the commercial break.
That does deserve a real answer.

Speaker 19 (01:25:48):
Yeah, we'll keep going in the commercial break to continue
answering Gina's question, don't go anywhere, We'll.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Be right back.

Speaker 21 (01:26:03):
Frankly anti Semitism, and it's brought up for that reason.
But there's like a rational way to understand this event
as a tragedy, as likely an accident, likely appalling military incompetence,
and fortunately they did pay compensation to the people affected
by that.

Speaker 12 (01:26:20):
That's my overall thoughts on it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Thank you, Blake. Did you have something to add to Oh?

Speaker 31 (01:26:25):
No, I think it was an interesting question. I guess
I would ask why the question was asked in Yeah,
I didn't realize.

Speaker 19 (01:26:30):
We're talking about it again. I've definitely heard other people
bring it up throughout the years. I will say one
interesting thing is that Dennis Prager actually wrote a letter
and he was kind of going through some of the
claims made about Israel, and I think he was trying
to kind of deal with it in a very rational way.
And so this was a letter that he wrote before

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he got injured in October twenty twenty four, and he
basically explained that his position had changed. He mentions that
terribly of his mistakes happened in every war, and initially
he thought the Liberty attack might have been another.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
One of those mistakes.

Speaker 19 (01:27:04):
However, he is now quote persuaded that the strike on
the Liberty was probably deliberate. He states in that letter
that the attack quote, if everything said about the attack
on the Liberty is true, it appears to him been
a criminal war crime. And he expressed frustration that he
doesn't understand why both the American and Israeli governments covered
it up at the time and have never since explained
why it happened. Now that POV differs from a lot

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of the official narratives, but that's coming from Dennis Brager,
who is a is about as Jewish as it gets,
as a dear friend of Charlie. And so I'm just
saying to Blake's other point, you know, it was sixty
years ago. Why does it have to be a guiding
light about what we're how we conduct ourselves now. And
if even Dennis Brager, who is you know, I said,

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card carrying Jewish guy who's written the books of the Torah,
five books of the Torah. I think he's writing his
fifth commentary on even now from being bedridden.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
We love Dennis.

Speaker 19 (01:27:59):
So I mean, if if he's willing to sort of
you know, reassess his the way he feels about that story,
then I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Not afraid to certainly so I keep an open mind.

Speaker 19 (01:28:11):
But again, sixty years ago, uh, and I think people
use it as a as a for altiers.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
It was.

Speaker 21 (01:28:17):
It got brought up a lot, in part because people
will get uncomfortable when they were asked about it, or
they weren't familiar with it, and so it became kind
of a meme for that reason.

Speaker 9 (01:28:25):
All Right, got it.

Speaker 19 (01:28:26):
Gotta welcome back radio one second. All right, all right,
welcome back to the Charlie kirk Show. Ask us anything,
final segment of the day, Avery, Welcome to the Charlie

(01:28:46):
Kirks Show.

Speaker 9 (01:28:47):
Hey, guys, great honor to speak to you today.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 9 (01:28:52):
I appreciate all you do. Can't even begin to imagine
what the challenges have been like I have. I think
it's much like the disciples questioning God's timing when Jesus
left them, and yet they picked up the ball built
on the foundation, and here we are two thousand years

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later with millions and billions in the Kingdom of God
because of what they did. And you guys are like you,
so thank you. I wanted to ask have I know
this election last week is I don't think you can
really take that much from it, but to some extent

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it is obviously a little discouraging. I'm one that wants
us to win everything, so I don't want to give
I don't want to give an inch. But so we've
got twenty twenty six coming up, and TPUSA and TPUSA action,

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in my opinion, gave us the wind for twenty twenty four.
I know others have played a vital role, but what
you guys did, Tyler and it was just incredible. What
I need to hear today is some encouragement that there's

(01:30:23):
a good plan being put in place to hopefully maybe
mobilize this tremendous army with all of the new TPUSA
chapters and everything else, that is going to give us

(01:30:43):
a victory that we desperately have to have for twenty
twenty six. Otherwise, MAGA and Trump are going to have
a lane duck those last two years and we can't
afford that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Do you want to address Avery's concerns?

Speaker 17 (01:30:59):
Yes?

Speaker 30 (01:31:00):
So, Avery, first off, thank you for that, and thank
you for the support, I mean, obviously for the entire audience.
The power behind the Charlie Kirks Show was that we
were able to mobilize tens of thousands of people, really
hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions if you look
at our TikTok and everything else, to help change the narrative,
change the game for twenty twenty four. Completely agree with you. Actually,

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that's why we're so excited that Tiffany's here with us
on campus. I mean, I could literally showcase to you
the work that we're doing right now, not just for
twenty twenty six, but twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty, twenty
thirty two. Is we're talking about everything ten years out
and working our way backwards, working with the biggest and
most impactful organizations across the country to be able to
put the boots on the ground where we need them

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in the right places. And this is the biggest problem,
the challenge that we've talked about. Charlie talked about this incessantly,
and we will start talking about this a lot more
this year now that we're the clock is ticking through
twenty twenty six. Is we're going to be talking about
just the same way that Charlie was talking about all
last year of how all the right has not done
a good enough job about organizing bodies and putting people

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where we need them most impactfully start to finish across
the country. And so the thing that we've been discussing
all morning and I will be into the late evening
here as we work with Tiffany is that we have
a place to go and strategic targets that matter the most.

Speaker 10 (01:32:25):
And I don't know if you want to.

Speaker 30 (01:32:25):
Talk a little bit about that, Tiffany, about kind of
the focuses and bringing people together.

Speaker 31 (01:32:30):
Yeah, I'm just so excited to work with Turning Point Action.
I think you're right that Turning Point was a huge
was the factor that helped us to win in twenty
four and put President Trump in the White House. And
so at Heritage Action, as I said, we do a
lot of federal work, a lot of state work.

Speaker 7 (01:32:46):
We're focusing on political action.

Speaker 31 (01:32:47):
We're focusing on acquiring power and working with Turning Point
and other organizations in order to mobilize voters, get them out,
and we're looking for the lions.

Speaker 10 (01:32:56):
Paper in the box, Paper in the box.

Speaker 19 (01:32:57):
Can I just make it an observation We started in
this space and Tyler can attest it was like dog
eat dog.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
They didn't want.

Speaker 19 (01:33:04):
Us getting in invading their terrain. They were worried about
donors all stuff. So have Heritage Action and Turning Point
Action cooperating on this is just like such a huge
advancement in the space.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
I just want to give you guys both.

Speaker 31 (01:33:18):
Credit for that and what I've seen just for my
limited time in politics from my mom of four so
I'm in it for the right reasons is the fact
that there are a lot of people that get involved
and suck money out of the ecosphere of politics, and
you know, we're here to invest in the American people
and making sure that we're getting, as Tyler says all
the time, more paper into the ballot box.

Speaker 30 (01:33:36):
Yeah, and that's the one piece that is probably the
most impactful is that if we can just just by
two or three or four percentage points make the conservative
movement more impactful with every dollar that's spent and get
that out to gootv get out the vote operations, chasing ballots,
then you win significant I mean we're not talking three
or four percent more elections. We're talking about thirty or

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forty percent more election Well.

Speaker 19 (01:34:00):
Got to wrap it up there, because we're coming up
at the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Blake.

Speaker 12 (01:34:02):
Now one more, one more questions, one.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
More okay, okay.

Speaker 19 (01:34:06):
In the stream, fine to radio, to real America's voice,
we say goodbye.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
We'll see you on Monday. Thanks so much.

Speaker 19 (01:34:12):
We'll take one more in the break