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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Any whites who act friendly toward negroes, a fox acts
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acts friendly toward the lamb, and usually the fox is
the one who ends up with the lamb chop on
his play. The wolf doesn't act friendly, and therefore the
wolf has more difficulty in getting the lamb chopped in
his play.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'd like to point out though, that I I I
say that because it is usually the if you l
study the structure of the Negro community m economically, politically, civically, psychologically, and.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Otherwise it's controlled by the white liberal who usually poses
as the friend of the negro, who actually differs from
the white conservative, and in the same way that the
fox differs from the wolf.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
M uh.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Their appetite is the same, their motives are the same.
It's only their mannerisms and and methods that differ.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I would agree that, no doubt, there have been a
large number of of white who have posed as liberals
and as friends of the negro, and who have time
and again betrayed the Negro. On the other hand, I
think one could point to a large number of whites
who have struggled for civil rights, give me mot equality
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and have got little or nothing out of it.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Other than quite a few bruises.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Give me an example, well, the large number of white
students who have gone into the South, for example working
for Snick and other organizations.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Not working for Snick or other organizations, but working for
the white political machines who benefit by the voting efforts
of negro.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I'll be more specific. I would cite Herbert Hill.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
For example, as a kind of person who has champion
negro job rights, for example in New York City and elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
He has fought the political machine.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
First time I met Herbert Hill personally was when they
were picketing to stop the working on the Harlem High Hospital.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
In Harlem.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Negroes for ten years had to fight the city to
get an annex built on the Harlem Hospital. Cause in
Harlem we need a hospital more so than anything else.
Our people are sick. Plus we do a lot of
cutting and shooting of each other, though we profess to
be non violent. And Herbert Hill brought his forces out
and stopped the working on that site. Uh, this is
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the first time I ever saw him. Then, Uh, when
work was brought to a halt on a hospital in Harlem,
the same Negroes tried to stop the work at the
Downstate Medical Center in Brooklyn, which is predominantly white. They
were out there for three months during the summer, couldn't
stop anything, and I never saw Herbert Hill out there
one time. Now, whenever something, whenever it takes a stoppage
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of something that's going to affect the white man, you
find the white liberal absent. But it's when it involved
something that primarily will affect the best interests of black
people and black people only then that white liberal as president.
Herbert Hill is the labor secretary for the NAACP, and
if he was interested in black people, he would prepare
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a black man with the type of knowledge and understanding
of the labor troubles involving black people that would enable
a black man to sit in the same position as
Secretary of Labor or labor secretary in the NAACP. I'm
suspicious of whites who join negroes and always have to
be in the lead, who always have to be the head,
who always have to be at the top in negro organizations.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Those whites who really have the.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Interest of blacks at heart. Let him give some advice
to some negroes and stand on the sideline, but don't
join the organization and then get at the head of
it and pose as a friend of Negro.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
In the fiercest bat A lot of things. You from
all these erros in the side, I will well keep
you from zangel and Vu.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Royce White is speaking truth to power.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Jimmy, we will not get up a senior rat guarantee.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
You know I'm long gonna talk about the real things,
okayis if I'm gonna die, I'll die now. What's wrong
in this country is our sense of American citizenship is lost.
It's lost inconvenience. Convenience will be the death of freedom.
This is my show, and on my show, I can
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show the conversation. Welcome back to the Royce White Show.
I'm your host, Royce White. Here in the Belly of
the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. You're watching Real America's Voice, headquarters
of the Ultra Maga in America First Movement. Excuse me,
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it's good to be back with you this Saturday. We
appreciate the opportunity for Real America's Voice as always to
lead off for War Room and the Great Steve Bannon
on Saturday mornings. And we have some trouble in Paradise.
President Donald Trump, it appears to be cutting ties with
Marjorie Taylor Green her The Hill. I saw some of
the back and forth and and the the news on
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social media, and I'm going to talk about this later
on in the in the show.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Because I think right now.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
My my experience as an athlete and being on a
team can can be useful and helpful whatever little bit
of influence that I have hear from the cockpit on
Saturday Mornings, Real America's Voice. Uh, there is a lot
of infighting going on in the movement, and it breaks
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my heart to see it. I think some of these
issues are much more black and white, much more simple
than we've made them. And at the same time, I
understand because there are some fundamental issues that we have
to sort out. And the only way you can the
only way you can justify how our country got to
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the place that it is today, is that we lost
the plot on some fundamental issues. So we have to
find a way to sort some of those fundamental issues
out before we can move forward and move on. So
a lot of the the infighting is is somewhat warranted,
but not to the level that we've taken it. And
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it's on both sides of what we all understand to
be a sort of rhino establishment, an old Republican guard
versus the new MAGA, and even now splitting off in
their own and their own mind Merica First Movement. If
you're America First or if you're MAGA, there really is
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no splitting off. There really is no quitting the team.
If you quit the team, then your affiliation with the
MAGA in America First Movement were much more rooted in
frustration and anger and less duty and sacred honor. That's
what I'll say, there's no quitting the team. Like if
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you quit the team in the middle of the game,
your coward. It doesn't matter what's going on. I mean,
there'd have to be something so in basketball, let's use
it as an example. There'd have to be something so
perverse going on in the game, a level of cheating
or you know, something physically take place in the game
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in order to justify getting up off of the bench
and taking your jersey off and quitting in the middle
of the game. It's one of those things you don't
really come back from. In sports, you quit in the
middle of the game. That's why if you watch professional sports,
you ever see it happen, everybody unanimously looks at that player, like,
what's wrong with that guy?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You know, what's wrong with them?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
They don't understand the you know, the basics of American
culture and the expectation when you play on a team. Now,
politics is a little bit different, but everything is a
little bit different and still the same. We do have
a team, and our team does have to coalesce, and
we do have to come together and unify, but under
the right principles. We have to unify under the right
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principles and move people towards the principle. That's what the
conservative thought process, That's what the conservative movement is supposed
to be about. How can we conserve anything if we
don't have a principle that we move people towards. The
question ultimately is what is the principle? And we have
to get right about that. We have to figure out
what the principle actually is because right now we are
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a little all over the place. And that makes sense.
You know, when you've had a uniparty run your politics
or sixty odds some years without really much pushback, you're
gonna be a little scattered.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I mean, your your resources.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
You're thinking the amount of issues that the types of
nuances and complexities you have to deal with to bring
any of these institutions back to sanity, much less the
entire country that is captured by what we can only
describe as mass formation psychosis. And that's really what it is.
Plus the advent of the Internet and social media, where
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everybody's the star in their own movie, and for most
of you, it's a C movie. It's not a B
movie or A movie. It's a C movie, no, no offense.
But everybody thinks they're the star and their own Hollywood blockbuster.
Now your movie is a C movie at best. So
you know, we're dealing with all of these things in
Vox Popular Live Vox Day. If any of you out
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there consider yourself to be populous, you understand that the
the spirit and the will of the people, it's prime.
I mean, it takes primacy. The intellect is the only
thing that can combat the will of man. And as
a Catholic, the Great Saint Thomas Aquinas always emphasized that
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there is a primacy of the intellect that transcends and
supersedes the primacy of the will. So and this is
why I said, when people who talk about i Q.
It's very convenient to talk about IQ number one. IQ
is not a Christian idea. The intellect is not static.
Intelligence is not static. There may be baselines, but the
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intellect and the spirit are inextricably linked. The intellect can
be developed, as too can be the spirit. So, you know,
we have a lot of things to sort out fundamentally, intellectually, philosophically.
We're going through a sort of philosophical and political renaissance
here in this country and in the West, all at once.
So there's gonna be some some hurt feelings, and there's
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gonna be some people who are offended, and there's gonna
be fights. We have to keep our eye on the
prize though, And you know, I'm not saying that some
of these things don't need to be hashed out. We're
gonna talk about one today with this Epstein report, the
Epstein files, and the contentious argument still brewing about Israel.
I think I'm pretty even handed on Israel, and then
I'll talk a little bit bit about that the moment.
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But the cold open there, I mean, let's not forget
the signal from the noise, the cold open there with
Malcolm X A man that was far ahead of his time,
although theologically not in alignment with our Christian values. As
a Muslim, said some very very insightful things about the
relationship between the black community Black America and the liberal
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structure that governs over them. We're gonna talk about that
and much more. You're watching the Royce White Show here
on Real America's Voice. Stay tuned, we'll be back in
a moment. Welcome back to the Royce White Show. I'm
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your host, Royce White here and the Belly of the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota,
and you're watching Mill America's Voice, headquarters of the Ultra
Maga and America First Movement. You notice how every Saturday
I say the two together, because there is no country
without the Ultra Maga in America First Movement. We can't
save the Republic without the Ultra Maga and America First Movement. Now,
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I know, I know there are some America Firsters out
there who who will get a little sensational, will get
a little sensational with their with their policy prescriptions. But
you gotta understand the Marjorie Taylor's. The Marjorie Taylor Greens
of the world are necessary. The Tucker Carlson's of the
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world are necessary. We used to understand that. We used
to And I'll tell you who understands it. The left
understands it. The left understands it. Well, Oh, they play
this game like they play the world like a fiddle.
They play this country like a fiddle. That's what That's
what Malcolm X was describing there in the cold open.
It was more related to racial racial components of American
politics as he was describing it. But what he was
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really saying is that the NAACP chair Herbert Hill only
posed as a friend to the negro And when you
really got down to the the you know the details
of his involvement in certain political activism, you can you
can follow a thread where he was more so controlled opposition,
even within the liberal side of things, than he was
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an actual mechanism of change, a mechanism of of fighting
for the people. The liberals do this well, the left
does this well, they'll throw an AOC at you, they'll
throw the squad at you and say, oh, you know,
we're the progressive wing of the party, you know, and
they'll coordinate to have them hold Schumer's feet to the
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fire and pretend like Schumer's a Centris Schumer's not a centrist,
not by our standards, not by the American First and
MAGA standard. Nobody to the left of the center right
is adequate for this period in American history. Nobody left
of the center right, and that includes the center right,
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is adequate for this moment in American history. Now again,
I've said it every single week, and this calls for
American citizens to do a few things. American patriots, we
have to solve the math. We have to figure out
from an electoral standpoint, from a political participation standpoint, how
do we replace those votes? How do we replace those votes?
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You got votes in the inner city that you can get.
President Trump opened up that doorway. We see there is
an avalanche of minorities all across this country that are saying,
wait a second illegual, unfettered, ellegue immigration, No thank you.
Our tax money is going to go to give free
health care and and and credit cards to illegal immigrants.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No thank you.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Even the people who come from the places where the
illegal immigrants are coming from are saying no thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I can't tell you.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
How many, how many Hispanic or how many Southeast Asian
immigrants I run into that, say, you know what, my
parents immigrated to this country legally. We have a problem
with all these illegal immigrants coming and getting things that
we had to stand in line and wait for.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
So we we have headway there. Is it going to
be easy? Absolutely not.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
And I'm going to talk about that probably in the
next block, because there there's something that we have to
discuss about, this this monolithic black vote. I think I
think it's very important for us to wrap our arms
around the monolithic black voting. Why why it continues to
march to a certain a certain tune. But you know,
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we're making headway. There not going to be easy. What
should be easy, What should be obvious is the Christian
the uptick in Christian participation. That should be obvious. We
should have a tidal wave of Christian participation in the
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twenty twenty six mid terms. There should be there should
be such a you know, an uptick in Christian participation
for these midterms. It should almost look strange in the
trajectory the history, the recent history and trajectory of how
midterms usually go in terms of voter turnout, because that's
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how dire the situation has become, especially after Charlie. Let
me tell you this, and I say this with all
due respect, has nothing to do with Charlie Kirk. It
has nothing to do with his legacy. He did exactly
what he was supposed to do. He led the way
he was supposed to lead, and he left Turning Point
and the entire country in a position to understand his
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sacrifice and use it as motivation to carry out his mission.
If Christians don't show up in Mass for the twenty
twenty six midterms, in this nation's darkest hour, there is
no Christian movement. Understand when your numbers called. If you
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don't show up, you don't exist. You're not real. That's
how it is in basketball, at least that's how it
is in sports. I'm sitting on the bench and coach
gives me the nine and says you're going in the game.
And you get out there and you fumble the ball
off your feet, you shoot an air ball. If you
don't produce, you no longer exist. You go back to
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the bench. And for a long time, a good portion
of our Christian community in America has been on the bench.
Now now is your time to shine. This is your moment.
If there's one person who has a Hollywood blockbuster lined
up in the star role is all prime for you
to deliver an Oscar winning performance. It's our American Christian
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community in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, twenty twenty
six midterms should belong to the Christian community and the
Christian vote. We should there should be a red wave
across this country based on our Christian community alone. And
Minnesota is no different Minnesota. You know, maybe most of
all the numbers suggest that almost a million and this
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is conservative, I'm being conservative. A million Christians and Conservatives
didn't vote in the twenty twenty four election. Again, we
look at that and say, we still have to figure
out the election integrity. Who's counting the votes, how votes
are being counted, if they're being counted at all. I
see Jasmine Crockett, you know, Jasmine unbelievable Crocket go out
in public and say we have to watch these Dominion
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machines because one of President Trump's friends purchased Dominion or
one of these voting machine software technology companies purchased the company,
and they may try and solidify a steal in twenty
twenty six by rigging the machines. I mean, this is
how brazen our enemies are. And we have to keep
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that in mind when we commit so much energy to
the infighting. And I'm not Look, I'm not. I fight
the uniparty as much as anybody, and I will continue
to and I find it, I find it quite odd
that when you look at the net total of people
who are on one side of this this and this
you know, this this conservative civil war as they've now
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dubbed it, if you look at one side versus the other,
there's there's one group who has traditionally been against or
not in complete support of the America First and MAGA
policies that President Trump has has pushed. And it may
take you a while to sift through the you know,
through the debris, through through the you know, the fake
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trail to find who people really are. But I give
you a prime example. It It blew my mind to
see our former US Senator Norm Coleman, uh, you know,
stand up there and read in Pete Hegseth at his confirmation.
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Hearing it blew my mind because here in Minnesota, there
there there probably isn't a better example of somebody who
pretends to support the president but in in secret is
more uniparty, is more uh uh, you know, internationalist than
they are America first than Norm Coleman. And has nothing
to do with him being Jewish. That has to do
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with the fact that he doesn't understand the fundamentals of
the policy. He doesn't believe in the fundamentals of policy.
It's George Bush. George Bush says, you know the other day,
three words that always pop up isolationism, nativism, protectionism. You know,
these things will pass like they're just a fad, like
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they're you know, they're just a phase. They're not a phase.
The American people are finally fed up with being on
the back burner. That's a natural response. The populist movement
is a natural response to the you know, the stratification
of wealth and even more importantly power. The natural response
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when the when a man works a blue collar job,
he's a welder, and you tell them, hey, you can't
retire as sixty five anymore. After his body's been battered
and beaten. You should keep working from sixty five to
eighty five, and you work until the day you die,
and you can save money. But the banks are gonna
rape you because they're gonna charge you to keep their money.
They're they're they're no savings accounts. It was a huge
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backbone of the American dream that you could work a
nine to five for thirty years and have a decent life,
take care of a family, and retire and live decent
in the twilight of your life. Now, President Trump is
a great example of the moxie that this country needs
to save itself from itself, because in the twilight of
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his life, he's still risking his life to help save
the country. So, you know, there's great utility to say
that President Trump is the example of who we should
be at eighty years old. I'm not knocking that. But
the question is what's right and what's wrong. What's right
and what's wrong. So we do have some decisions to make.
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We have some decisions to make. We have some things
to discuss next and in the next block here, I'm
going to talk a little bit about this Epstein thing,
this Israel thing, this civil war in general.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I think it's silly, but it's got to happen.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
My fear is that you know, we you know, we
are into election season here, and if we think we're not,
then as a candidate who ran in the last cycle.
Let me tell you we are in the twenty twenty
sixth election season now, especially in some of these places
that are going to be highly contested. We're in it now,
and we better get our message together. We better get
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our message straight. Some of these things have to do
with our message. But there's a much better message. There's
a greater message. There are greater issues that face this
country that we can speak to that will help us
be more successful in twenty twenty six. We better get that.
We better start figuring it out right here and right now.
Let's have this fight for about another thirty days, because,
as the Great Steve Bannon says, we are burning daylight.
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You're watching the Royce White Show here on Real America's Voice,
headquarters of the Ultra Magan America First Movement. We'll be
right back in a moment. Stay tuned, Welcome back to
the Royce White Show. I'm your host, Royce White, here
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on the Belly of the Beast. In the Belly of
the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. You're watching Real America's Voice, headquarters
of the Ultra Maga in America First Movement. Look, the
in fighting is the infighting it's gonna happen. It was
bound to happen, It's destined to happen. It is inevitable.
I said two years ago that this thing was gonna
come down to Israel because the beating heart of the
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Mega movement in many respects is a repudiation of our
foreign policy, and not our foreign policy with any relation
to one specific country, our foreign policy in general, and
the fact that American citizens, in the minds of American citizens,
have been put on the back burner for far too long,
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too many wars, too many NGOs like USAID before your
average American citizen didn't even really know what to call it,
but they still had the intuition that something was off.
The money that we spend abroad is better used here
for our own country. And we've we've marched ourselves down
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a dangerous path where we do have to deal with
global trade, you know, a global market of trade that
we've been in mesh ten for many, many, many decades,
many many decades. You can look at NAFTA you get
I mean, you know, you go back to seventies, the seventies,
but Nixon and Kissinger we've been in meshed intentionally and
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meshed in global trade for a long time. So even
the stability of our markets at a fundamental level are
going to be deeply affected by the choices that we
make on the international stage economically. Still, still, the conversations
need to happen, and people are right to challenge it.
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The question is how do we respond to challenge. One
of the most uh one of the most honorable things
I think I've ever seen, is the great Steve Bannon's
response to the rift that developed between himself and President
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Trump after the first term. And he never waivered. He
never you know, pulled this support. He never threw a
hissy fit. You know, he never took it personally. He's
never said, oh, poor me, the president doesn't like me,
he's upset with me. No, that's that's not what soldiers do.
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Not if you say the goal is to save this country,
see you, you can separate the two. You can say,
this is my personal relationship with the president, this is
how I feel personally about these individual things. But the
goal is still the same. The goal remains the same.
The goal is we have the power right now to
crush our opponents. And if we don't crush them, sure
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as the sun will rise they will defeat us. And
when they defeat us, some of you are going to prison.
It's not just going to be the Steve Bannons or
the Alex Joneses of the world this time. It's not
just going to be the President Trump's. Some of you
out there in the audience are going to prison. You're
going to prison for criticizing the establishment. You're going to
prison for what used to be the freedom of movement.
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You're going to prison for not being vaccinated. You're going
to prison for whatever you know, wacky trumped up charges
you get from your your your IP history from the
internet providers. Some of you are going to prison and
some of you will die. That's as honest as I
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can be. We know how color revolutions work. We know
how Marxist revolutions work. We know that the centrist to
the center of the road capitalists, they don't have the
stomach or the heart to stop the angry mob. When
it gets too loud, they will fold. That's how some
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of these corporations went woke in the first place. They
had the money, they had the power, they had the influence,
they had the attorneys, they had all the resources you need.
Marshalled in their favor to fight the insanity of the
woke left. But they couldn't. They're weak mentally, emotionally, they're
susceptible to democratic mobs. We're the last bashion of freedom,
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We're the last bashion of hope for this republic, for
this country, whether we like it or not. And it's
not fair. Is it fair? No, it's not fair. Life
isn't fair. But I guarantee you, if we don't figure
this out, we will lose and we will die. It's
not extremism, it's is serious. They wanted to throw the
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President of the United States in prison for life. Ninety
one indictments, ninety one felony indictments. They touted around like
it was the you know, the sort of Damocles. And
all the indictments have been overturned. Why because they weren't
legitimate to begin with. And these people, an age old
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adage is the end justifies the means, and they believe
that wholeheartedly. They believe the end justifies the means. And
they'll wear that evil, sadistic smirk on their face while
they do it in front of everybody, insaulting the intelligence
of the American people and themselves.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
True wickedness, true evil.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
The fact that they were going to try and cart
that man off to prison, knowing good and well that
those indictments were politically motivated is absolutely abhorn And we
have to remember that, we have to remember who are
in a And maybe we table this conversation about Israel
for now, And I don't mean table it as in,
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you know my position is any different, but is there
a bigger issue?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
To me?
Speaker 7 (30:17):
The bigger issue is the integrity of the elections. The
integrity of our elections is a bigger issue, and artificial
intelligence is the granddaddy of them all. My position about
Israel is no different, and I've been very even handed. Look,
you want to criticize Israel, you have that right as
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an American citizen.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
We all do.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
And I have plenty of criticism for Israel and for
the lobbyists and for the attempt to censor people who
have a legitimate and reasonable question about our relationship there.
Very critical, so much so they call me anti Semitic.
I mean, even even though my mentor is a Ukrainian Jew.
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I mean, if you didn't see the episode last night,
please call me crazy on YouTube, Please go and watch it.
Professor Penn laid out what it means to be Jewish
in such an honest and eloquent way. He really did
very important podcast last night with the great Professor Penn.
I think they ranted on war rooms platforms as well,
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very important for the times that we're living in. So
I'm very very critical. But don't tell me Israel's not
a legitimate nation, and don't tell me that those aren't
the real Jews. Number One, if you fight a war
for your territory, you organize it as a country, and
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you're willing to defend your territorial integrity. You are a country,
no matter if somebody likes that or not. That's the
way it is. You're a country. The Kurr's got a
territory there in the Middle East. They might as well
be considered a country by all, you know, geopolitical standards,
in policy. They are a country. The Kurds have a country.
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It's not you know, it's not concretized with any real
borders or constitution. But trust and believe the Kurds have
a territory that is just as good as a country
in many respects.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So Israel's a legitimate nation. And if you're Jewish.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
If you're Jewish, like you believe in Judaism, most faith
is a voluntary submission to God. You can choose to
be Jewish, you can choose to be Christian, you can
choose to be Muslim. So you know, there are no
real sons of Abraham or not. It's voluntary. So these
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two arguments are goofy, And there are a lot of
goofy arguments over there on the right about Israel in general,
but there are some legitimate criticisms as well, like our
entire form policy as for the most part since World
War Two, been centered around our relationship there in the
Middle East. That was never originally about our faith in
God or our spiritual relationship with the nation of Israel
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or the Jewish people. It was about energy. It was
about energy, It was about military expansion. It was about
an empire, a formation, a foreign policy that we no
longer desire. Broadly, we no longer desire to be the
world's police, especially in a region we've been in for
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seventy years and it's as tumultuous as it's ever been.
It didn't work, It didn't work. What makes Israel legitimate nations?
In nineteen sixty six, they won a war on off
fronts against their neighbors with our help, some of our help.
In that day, They, like we did during the American
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Revolutionary War, claimed their independence and their status as a
sovereign state. But they faced a similar attack recently. So
what did our involvement really do? And I'm more on
the extreme side. I don't care what Israel does. These
people claim they want to kill, you know, the Jews,
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and they want to wipe Israel off the face of
the earth. That's their right as human beings to claim.
It's not their right, however, to do it without any
without any challenge, without catching some bullets in return. People
are going to fire back. That's the way of the world.
And if Israel wants to do greater Israel and they
want to take that entire region, God bless them, God
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speed to you. The question is what's America's involvement and
what's the expectation on our people and on our public
figures to talk about the situation in one particular way
or another. That's the question. Do I agree with everything?
Tuck across and the saying no, do I agree with everything?
Nick went to as a saying Candice one's absolutely not.
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But when they tell the truth and they say something
less legitimate, it's right for us to say, hey, wait, man,
that's legitimate. All right, we hear you, We hear that.
And there is a lot of that. I've never known
Tucker Carlson to be a guy that wasn't wasn't rational
in his thought He's a very very smart individual, very
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smart individual, very measured, very detail oriented in the way
that he formulates his thoughts. Will be talking about this
a little bit more on the other side of the break.
Gott to sort this out. It's okay, don't shy away
from it, don't cower, don't run and hide. Confrontation is fine.
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That's what separates us from the left. Confrontation sometimes it's necessary.
You're watching the Royce White Show. Stay tuned. We'll be
back in a moment. Welcome back to the Royce White Show.
I'm your host, Royce White here and the Belly of
the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. You're watching Real America's Voice, headquarters
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of the Ultra Maga and America First Movement. Yeah, is
there a civil war breaking out in the MAGA movement
between the Maga Movement and the America First Movement. I mean,
part of me says, sure, this conversation we have to have.
Part of me tends to think, right, when you get
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up to the point where you're actually gonna be able
to win and change things, people have a tendency to
sabotage themselves. And I'm not saying on one side or
the other of the Civil War. I just mean that
the human condition makes people gravitate towards self sabotage and
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the moments where they're close to victory. Every people, every mission,
every team faces that moment where you're right on the
verge of victory. You're right there, and there's a propensity
of proclivity just to trip yourself up. You know, your
your own worst enemy. Right now, I think our movement
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has become its own worst enemy. I say it again.
My position on Israel is very clear, and I think
it's even handed. Don't be saying that those aren't the
real Jews. Don't be saying Israel is not a legitimate
nation because America had to help them win a war,
the French had to help us win the American Revolutionary War.
Doesn't make America any less legitimate. And all nations stand
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upon conquered land. So that's a dumb argument too. If
that's the case, there are no borders anywhere and there
are no nations. Not lost on me that our far
left opponents are far left financiers and philosophical thought leaders
make the argument that there are no real nations. There
is no such thing as a nation or borders. We're
not playing that game.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Now.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
If you say, how much money do we spend every
year to be involved in a region that is not
vital to our national interest, that's a legitimate question. That's
a completely legitimate question. Even more important question is what's
the expectation in our movement from our leaders to capitulate
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to this relationship so much so that you can't have
any criticism whatsoever without being called a racist or a
bigot or an anti semi. That is a pertinent question,
because that's a question about our culture. That is a
question about our fundamental belief in American principles and values
and freedom of speech and the right, nay, the duty
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to speak the truth. Israel is not a nation that
can do no wrong. No nation is an that can
do no wrong, because no man can do no wrong.
There was only one perfect man in his name was
Jesus Christ. So until Jesus Christ returns and stands at
the head of a nation and leads a nation, then
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a nation will be beyond critique or reproach until that day.
Until that day, everybody can be criticized, everybody can be questioned,
But there are still bigger issues. The integrity of our
elections is number one. Let me say it very clear
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for everybody. The integrity of our elections is numero who No.
And one A is what are we going to do
about artificial intelligence? Because if we play around with that
too much longer, we're not going to get a chance
to We're not going to get a chance to make
a choice. The choice will be made for us. So
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there are bigger issues. Is that is that too much
to Is that? Is that complicated? Is that hard to
understand that this is a hot issue, But it's not
the issue. It's not the issue. It's a good issue
for us to distract ourselves from a feeling of unempowerment
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to deal with the real issues. And that's where I
just I won't participate in the scapegoating. I don't like scapegoats.
My number one pet peeve, I think in life has
been scapegoats. We actually get the term scapegoat from the
Jewish culture. Un ironically. Escapegoating is during during the you know,
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the during the Jewish tradition, they cast their sins onto
a goat, and they cast a goat into the wild,
and that's a way to to uh, you know, repent
for the things that have gone wrong in the village
or in the tribe.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
My number one pet peeve is scapegoats. I can't stand them. Again.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
I kind of get the sense that we don't really
feel empowered to deal with artificial intelligence or these elections.
We feel unempowered to deal with artificial intelligence because a
part of us, you know, convenience would be the death
of freedom. A part of us likes all the things
that come along with the advancement of technology. So we
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don't really want to have to go there, and we
don't really want to have to go there about the
elections because ay, we might find something that we don't
like or b B. There is a subtle implication that
that issue, that particular issue, threatens to unravel the entire
political theater, meaning that if there was ever a real
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and when I say real, I mean a real push
to solidify the integrity of our elections. Your elits, your
political eleads, your financially leads, your global elites, who you've
given so much power and freedom to may say, you
know what, we're done playing the game. We're gonna go
straight to authoritarianism. And I bring that point up to
talk about this monolithic black vote here to end. We
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tend to think that black people vote Democrat because they're stupid.
We tend to think that black people vote Democrat because
they've been convinced by the narrative. No, it's much darker
than that. It's much more pernicious than that. Black people
vote eighty five to ninety percent Democrats still because the
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Democrat liberal order has run this country in the world
for the last sixty years. And you get neo kon
Rhinos like David Frum who stand up before a Canadian
off audience and say, the point of conservatism is to
conserve what is best about liberalism. That is why black
people vote Democrat because they've won. Traditionally, they've won. Black
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people are kicking the winning side. They don't want to
be on the wrong end of the bullying. And you
know who the bullies are. If you ever spent any
time on the playground, you know who the bullies are
and you know the dangers if you cross them. And
that is a lack of sacred honor in the Black community,
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no doubt about it. I'm not giving them an excuse.
I think it's dishonorable for you to go with the
winning team because they're the winning team. But I'm just
making the point that it is traditionally the case throughout
human civilization that people tend to pick the winning side.
That's how you got Nazi Germany. The reason why Adolph
Hitler and the Third Reich had ninety percent support in
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Germany is because people had the instinctual, you know, the
instinct to know the consequences if they didn't. You know how,
I know Black people are smarter than we give them
credit for, because out of all of the supid choices
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they've made following along the Democrat Party, they still didn't
take that vaccine. They still didn't take the vaccine. In fact,
some of you and the audience you took the vaccine.
And I know, I know, I don't shame you for
it whatsoever. I understand it was a moment of fear
and we were led by the guidance that we had
the best information that we had at the time. But
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there were some among you who stood up and said,
my dear friend, doctor zev Zelenko, if you remember doctor
zev Zelenko, My how time flies. We lost the great
doctor zev Zeleenko, who went to Israel before the Rabbinical court,
the hyrabbinical court, and told them, please do not do
this with the vaccine. You are setting a dangerous precedent
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that will be used against us in the future to
kill the Jewish people. Funny how in all of this
conversation about Israel we forget the heroes like doctor zev Zealenko,
who by the way, endorsed me in my first run
United States Congress. I talked to him a month before
he passed, talk to him often. And so you can't
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call me an anti semi And you know you can.
You can't avoid the reality and the truth that I'm
willing to speak. You can try, you can try to
play fast and loose with the with you know, with
the semantics and the and the propaganda all you want to.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
But I'm a man that speaks the truth.
Speaker 7 (45:25):
There's a reason why why the gray Steve Banner, says
royces All signaled no noise, speaking truth to power. You
can't call me anti semitic. You can, but it didn't work.
Doesn't phaze me one bit. I know the truth. The
truth is that we here in the conservative movement, we
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do a lot of bickering, We do a lot of gossiping.
We get caught up in this, this high brow intellectual
debate more so than the political activism. We need to
actually organize the people, we need to vote for us,
and we like to self sabotage. Now, some people would
say it's not organic self sabotage, it's intentional, strategic, conscious
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self sabotaged. And there's plenty of legitimate argument for that.
For again, David from Intellectual thought Leader, editor in chief
of The Atlantic, You Know is Atlanticism, stands up before
a Canadian crowd and a debate with Steve Bannon and says,
the point of conservatism is to conserve what is best
about liberalism. And we wonder why the Democrat liberal order
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has taken over the entire the entire country, root and branch,
And then why black people who are vulnerable, and they
are vulnerable psychologically, spiritually, socially, we wonder why they vote
monolithic for the Democrat Party. They're picking the winners. We
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have to do the things necessary to become the winning team,
and you'll see people leaving droves. And that's what President
Trump represents. President Trump represents a shift in the tectonic
plates of our political landscape so great that for the
first time, black people go, you know what, we can
leave the winning team because the winning team may in
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fact change, and it may change for good. We need
more of that. We need more of that. We need
less vickery. We need more honest conversation. We need less censorship.
We need less canceling than another episode of the Royce
White Show. I wish I had more time with you today. Next,
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you got the great Steve Bannon in War room. Shout
out to the entire war room posse. We are the
tip of the spear and the ultra Maga movement. Americans
come first, American citizens come first. America comes first. Nothing
wrong with that. God Bless God's speed. We'll see you
next weekend. Have a good day.
Any whites who act friendly toward negroes, a fox acts
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acts friendly toward the lamb, and usually the fox is
the one who ends up with the lamb chop on
his play. The wolf doesn't act friendly, and therefore the
wolf has more difficulty in getting the lamb chopped in
his play.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'd like to point out though, that I I I
say that because it is usually the if you l
study the structure of the Negro community m economically, politically, civically, psychologically, and.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Otherwise it's controlled by the white liberal who usually poses
as the friend of the negro, who actually differs from
the white conservative, and in the same way that the
fox differs from the wolf.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
M uh.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Their appetite is the same, their motives are the same.
It's only their mannerisms and and methods that differ.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I would agree that, no doubt, there have been a
large number of of white who have posed as liberals
and as friends of the negro, and who have time
and again betrayed the Negro. On the other hand, I
think one could point to a large number of whites
who have struggled for civil rights, give me mot equality
(01:15):
and have got little or nothing out of it.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Other than quite a few bruises.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Give me an example, well, the large number of white
students who have gone into the South, for example working
for Snick and other organizations.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Not working for Snick or other organizations, but working for
the white political machines who benefit by the voting efforts
of negro.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I'll be more specific. I would cite Herbert Hill.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
For example, as a kind of person who has champion
negro job rights, for example in New York City and elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
He has fought the political machine.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
First time I met Herbert Hill personally was when they
were picketing to stop the working on the Harlem High Hospital.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
In Harlem.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Negroes for ten years had to fight the city to
get an annex built on the Harlem Hospital. Cause in
Harlem we need a hospital more so than anything else.
Our people are sick. Plus we do a lot of
cutting and shooting of each other, though we profess to
be non violent. And Herbert Hill brought his forces out
and stopped the working on that site. Uh, this is
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the first time I ever saw him. Then, Uh, when
work was brought to a halt on a hospital in Harlem,
the same Negroes tried to stop the work at the
Downstate Medical Center in Brooklyn, which is predominantly white. They
were out there for three months during the summer, couldn't
stop anything, and I never saw Herbert Hill out there
one time. Now, whenever something, whenever it takes a stoppage
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of something that's going to affect the white man, you
find the white liberal absent. But it's when it involved
something that primarily will affect the best interests of black
people and black people only then that white liberal as president.
Herbert Hill is the labor secretary for the NAACP, and
if he was interested in black people, he would prepare
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a black man with the type of knowledge and understanding
of the labor troubles involving black people that would enable
a black man to sit in the same position as
Secretary of Labor or labor secretary in the NAACP. I'm
suspicious of whites who join negroes and always have to
be in the lead, who always have to be the head,
who always have to be at the top in negro organizations.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Those whites who really have the.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Interest of blacks at heart. Let him give some advice
to some negroes and stand on the sideline, but don't
join the organization and then get at the head of
it and pose as a friend of Negro.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
In the fiercest bat A lot of things. You from
all these erros in the side, I will well keep
you from zangel and Vu.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Royce White is speaking truth to power.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Jimmy, we will not get up a senior rat guarantee.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
You know I'm long gonna talk about the real things,
okayis if I'm gonna die, I'll die now. What's wrong
in this country is our sense of American citizenship is lost.
It's lost inconvenience. Convenience will be the death of freedom.
This is my show, and on my show, I can
(04:36):
show the conversation. Welcome back to the Royce White Show.
I'm your host, Royce White. Here in the Belly of
the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. You're watching Real America's Voice, headquarters
of the Ultra Maga in America First Movement. Excuse me,
(04:58):
it's good to be back with you this Saturday. We
appreciate the opportunity for Real America's Voice as always to
lead off for War Room and the Great Steve Bannon
on Saturday mornings. And we have some trouble in Paradise.
President Donald Trump, it appears to be cutting ties with
Marjorie Taylor Green her The Hill. I saw some of
the back and forth and and the the news on
(05:22):
social media, and I'm going to talk about this later
on in the in the show.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Because I think right now.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
My my experience as an athlete and being on a
team can can be useful and helpful whatever little bit
of influence that I have hear from the cockpit on
Saturday Mornings, Real America's Voice. Uh, there is a lot
of infighting going on in the movement, and it breaks
(05:58):
my heart to see it. I think some of these
issues are much more black and white, much more simple
than we've made them. And at the same time, I
understand because there are some fundamental issues that we have
to sort out. And the only way you can the
only way you can justify how our country got to
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the place that it is today, is that we lost
the plot on some fundamental issues. So we have to
find a way to sort some of those fundamental issues
out before we can move forward and move on. So
a lot of the the infighting is is somewhat warranted,
but not to the level that we've taken it. And
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it's on both sides of what we all understand to
be a sort of rhino establishment, an old Republican guard
versus the new MAGA, and even now splitting off in
their own and their own mind Merica First Movement. If
you're America First or if you're MAGA, there really is
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no splitting off. There really is no quitting the team.
If you quit the team, then your affiliation with the
MAGA in America First Movement were much more rooted in
frustration and anger and less duty and sacred honor. That's
what I'll say, there's no quitting the team. Like if
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you quit the team in the middle of the game,
your coward. It doesn't matter what's going on. I mean,
there'd have to be something so in basketball, let's use
it as an example. There'd have to be something so
perverse going on in the game, a level of cheating
or you know, something physically take place in the game
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in order to justify getting up off of the bench
and taking your jersey off and quitting in the middle
of the game. It's one of those things you don't
really come back from. In sports, you quit in the
middle of the game. That's why if you watch professional sports,
you ever see it happen, everybody unanimously looks at that player, like,
what's wrong with that guy?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You know, what's wrong with them?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
They don't understand the you know, the basics of American
culture and the expectation when you play on a team. Now,
politics is a little bit different, but everything is a
little bit different and still the same. We do have
a team, and our team does have to coalesce, and
we do have to come together and unify, but under
the right principles. We have to unify under the right
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principles and move people towards the principle. That's what the
conservative thought process, That's what the conservative movement is supposed
to be about. How can we conserve anything if we
don't have a principle that we move people towards. The
question ultimately is what is the principle? And we have
to get right about that. We have to figure out
what the principle actually is because right now we are
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a little all over the place. And that makes sense.
You know, when you've had a uniparty run your politics
or sixty odds some years without really much pushback, you're
gonna be a little scattered.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I mean, your your resources.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
You're thinking the amount of issues that the types of
nuances and complexities you have to deal with to bring
any of these institutions back to sanity, much less the
entire country that is captured by what we can only
describe as mass formation psychosis. And that's really what it is.
Plus the advent of the Internet and social media, where
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everybody's the star in their own movie, and for most
of you, it's a C movie. It's not a B
movie or A movie. It's a C movie, no, no offense.
But everybody thinks they're the star and their own Hollywood blockbuster.
Now your movie is a C movie at best. So
you know, we're dealing with all of these things in
Vox Popular Live Vox Day. If any of you out
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there consider yourself to be populous, you understand that the
the spirit and the will of the people, it's prime.
I mean, it takes primacy. The intellect is the only
thing that can combat the will of man. And as
a Catholic, the Great Saint Thomas Aquinas always emphasized that
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there is a primacy of the intellect that transcends and
supersedes the primacy of the will. So and this is
why I said, when people who talk about i Q.
It's very convenient to talk about IQ number one. IQ
is not a Christian idea. The intellect is not static.
Intelligence is not static. There may be baselines, but the
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intellect and the spirit are inextricably linked. The intellect can
be developed, as too can be the spirit. So, you know,
we have a lot of things to sort out fundamentally, intellectually, philosophically.
We're going through a sort of philosophical and political renaissance
here in this country and in the West, all at once.
So there's gonna be some some hurt feelings, and there's
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gonna be some people who are offended, and there's gonna
be fights. We have to keep our eye on the
prize though, And you know, I'm not saying that some
of these things don't need to be hashed out. We're
gonna talk about one today with this Epstein report, the
Epstein files, and the contentious argument still brewing about Israel.
I think I'm pretty even handed on Israel, and then
I'll talk a little bit bit about that the moment.
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But the cold open there, I mean, let's not forget
the signal from the noise, the cold open there with
Malcolm X A man that was far ahead of his time,
although theologically not in alignment with our Christian values. As
a Muslim, said some very very insightful things about the
relationship between the black community Black America and the liberal
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structure that governs over them. We're gonna talk about that
and much more. You're watching the Royce White Show here
on Real America's Voice. Stay tuned, we'll be back in
a moment. Welcome back to the Royce White Show. I'm
(12:06):
your host, Royce White here and the Belly of the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota,
and you're watching Mill America's Voice, headquarters of the Ultra
Maga and America First Movement. You notice how every Saturday
I say the two together, because there is no country
without the Ultra Maga in America First Movement. We can't
save the Republic without the Ultra Maga and America First Movement. Now,
(12:29):
I know, I know there are some America Firsters out
there who who will get a little sensational, will get
a little sensational with their with their policy prescriptions. But
you gotta understand the Marjorie Taylor's. The Marjorie Taylor Greens
of the world are necessary. The Tucker Carlson's of the
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world are necessary. We used to understand that. We used
to And I'll tell you who understands it. The left
understands it. The left understands it. Well, Oh, they play
this game like they play the world like a fiddle.
They play this country like a fiddle. That's what That's
what Malcolm X was describing there in the cold open.
It was more related to racial racial components of American
politics as he was describing it. But what he was
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really saying is that the NAACP chair Herbert Hill only
posed as a friend to the negro And when you
really got down to the the you know the details
of his involvement in certain political activism, you can you
can follow a thread where he was more so controlled opposition,
even within the liberal side of things, than he was
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an actual mechanism of change, a mechanism of of fighting
for the people. The liberals do this well, the left
does this well, they'll throw an AOC at you, they'll
throw the squad at you and say, oh, you know,
we're the progressive wing of the party, you know, and
they'll coordinate to have them hold Schumer's feet to the
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fire and pretend like Schumer's a Centris Schumer's not a centrist,
not by our standards, not by the American First and
MAGA standard. Nobody to the left of the center right
is adequate for this period in American history. Nobody left
of the center right, and that includes the center right,
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is adequate for this moment in American history. Now again,
I've said it every single week, and this calls for
American citizens to do a few things. American patriots, we
have to solve the math. We have to figure out
from an electoral standpoint, from a political participation standpoint, how
do we replace those votes? How do we replace those votes?
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You got votes in the inner city that you can get.
President Trump opened up that doorway. We see there is
an avalanche of minorities all across this country that are saying,
wait a second illegual, unfettered, ellegue immigration, No thank you.
Our tax money is going to go to give free
health care and and and credit cards to illegal immigrants.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
No thank you.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Even the people who come from the places where the
illegal immigrants are coming from are saying no thank you.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I can't tell you.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
How many, how many Hispanic or how many Southeast Asian
immigrants I run into that, say, you know what, my
parents immigrated to this country legally. We have a problem
with all these illegal immigrants coming and getting things that
we had to stand in line and wait for.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
So we we have headway there. Is it going to
be easy? Absolutely not.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
And I'm going to talk about that probably in the
next block, because there there's something that we have to
discuss about, this this monolithic black vote. I think I
think it's very important for us to wrap our arms
around the monolithic black voting. Why why it continues to
march to a certain a certain tune. But you know,
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we're making headway. There not going to be easy. What
should be easy, What should be obvious is the Christian
the uptick in Christian participation. That should be obvious. We
should have a tidal wave of Christian participation in the
(16:21):
twenty twenty six mid terms. There should be there should
be such a you know, an uptick in Christian participation
for these midterms. It should almost look strange in the
trajectory the history, the recent history and trajectory of how
midterms usually go in terms of voter turnout, because that's
(16:44):
how dire the situation has become, especially after Charlie. Let
me tell you this, and I say this with all
due respect, has nothing to do with Charlie Kirk. It
has nothing to do with his legacy. He did exactly
what he was supposed to do. He led the way
he was supposed to lead, and he left Turning Point
and the entire country in a position to understand his
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sacrifice and use it as motivation to carry out his mission.
If Christians don't show up in Mass for the twenty
twenty six midterms, in this nation's darkest hour, there is
no Christian movement. Understand when your numbers called. If you
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don't show up, you don't exist. You're not real. That's
how it is in basketball, at least that's how it
is in sports. I'm sitting on the bench and coach
gives me the nine and says you're going in the game.
And you get out there and you fumble the ball
off your feet, you shoot an air ball. If you
don't produce, you no longer exist. You go back to
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the bench. And for a long time, a good portion
of our Christian community in America has been on the bench.
Now now is your time to shine. This is your moment.
If there's one person who has a Hollywood blockbuster lined
up in the star role is all prime for you
to deliver an Oscar winning performance. It's our American Christian
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community in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, twenty twenty
six midterms should belong to the Christian community and the
Christian vote. We should there should be a red wave
across this country based on our Christian community alone. And
Minnesota is no different Minnesota. You know, maybe most of
all the numbers suggest that almost a million and this
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is conservative, I'm being conservative. A million Christians and Conservatives
didn't vote in the twenty twenty four election. Again, we
look at that and say, we still have to figure
out the election integrity. Who's counting the votes, how votes
are being counted, if they're being counted at all. I
see Jasmine Crockett, you know, Jasmine unbelievable Crocket go out
in public and say we have to watch these Dominion
(18:59):
machines because one of President Trump's friends purchased Dominion or
one of these voting machine software technology companies purchased the company,
and they may try and solidify a steal in twenty
twenty six by rigging the machines. I mean, this is
how brazen our enemies are. And we have to keep
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that in mind when we commit so much energy to
the infighting. And I'm not Look, I'm not. I fight
the uniparty as much as anybody, and I will continue
to and I find it, I find it quite odd
that when you look at the net total of people
who are on one side of this this and this
you know, this this conservative civil war as they've now
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dubbed it, if you look at one side versus the other,
there's there's one group who has traditionally been against or
not in complete support of the America First and MAGA
policies that President Trump has has pushed. And it may
take you a while to sift through the you know,
through the debris, through through the you know, the fake
(20:04):
trail to find who people really are. But I give
you a prime example. It It blew my mind to
see our former US Senator Norm Coleman, uh, you know,
stand up there and read in Pete Hegseth at his confirmation.
(20:27):
Hearing it blew my mind because here in Minnesota, there
there there probably isn't a better example of somebody who
pretends to support the president but in in secret is
more uniparty, is more uh uh, you know, internationalist than
they are America first than Norm Coleman. And has nothing
to do with him being Jewish. That has to do
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with the fact that he doesn't understand the fundamentals of
the policy. He doesn't believe in the fundamentals of policy.
It's George Bush. George Bush says, you know the other day,
three words that always pop up isolationism, nativism, protectionism. You know,
these things will pass like they're just a fad, like
(21:10):
they're you know, they're just a phase. They're not a phase.
The American people are finally fed up with being on
the back burner. That's a natural response. The populist movement
is a natural response to the you know, the stratification
of wealth and even more importantly power. The natural response
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when the when a man works a blue collar job,
he's a welder, and you tell them, hey, you can't
retire as sixty five anymore. After his body's been battered
and beaten. You should keep working from sixty five to
eighty five, and you work until the day you die,
and you can save money. But the banks are gonna
rape you because they're gonna charge you to keep their money.
They're they're they're no savings accounts. It was a huge
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backbone of the American dream that you could work a
nine to five for thirty years and have a decent life,
take care of a family, and retire and live decent
in the twilight of your life. Now, President Trump is
a great example of the moxie that this country needs
to save itself from itself, because in the twilight of
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his life, he's still risking his life to help save
the country. So, you know, there's great utility to say
that President Trump is the example of who we should
be at eighty years old. I'm not knocking that. But
the question is what's right and what's wrong. What's right
and what's wrong. So we do have some decisions to make.
(22:46):
We have some decisions to make. We have some things
to discuss next and in the next block here, I'm
going to talk a little bit about this Epstein thing,
this Israel thing, this civil war in general.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I think it's silly, but it's got to happen.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
My fear is that you know, we you know, we
are into election season here, and if we think we're not,
then as a candidate who ran in the last cycle.
Let me tell you we are in the twenty twenty
sixth election season now, especially in some of these places
that are going to be highly contested. We're in it now,
and we better get our message together. We better get
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our message straight. Some of these things have to do
with our message. But there's a much better message. There's
a greater message. There are greater issues that face this
country that we can speak to that will help us
be more successful in twenty twenty six. We better get that.
We better start figuring it out right here and right now.
Let's have this fight for about another thirty days, because,
as the Great Steve Bannon says, we are burning daylight.
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You're watching the Royce White Show here on Real America's Voice,
headquarters of the Ultra Magan America First Movement. We'll be
right back in a moment. Stay tuned, Welcome back to
the Royce White Show. I'm your host, Royce White, here
(24:09):
on the Belly of the Beast. In the Belly of
the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. You're watching Real America's Voice, headquarters
of the Ultra Maga in America First Movement. Look, the
in fighting is the infighting it's gonna happen. It was
bound to happen, It's destined to happen. It is inevitable.
I said two years ago that this thing was gonna
come down to Israel because the beating heart of the
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Mega movement in many respects is a repudiation of our
foreign policy, and not our foreign policy with any relation
to one specific country, our foreign policy in general, and
the fact that American citizens, in the minds of American citizens,
have been put on the back burner for far too long,
(24:51):
too many wars, too many NGOs like USAID before your
average American citizen didn't even really know what to call it,
but they still had the intuition that something was off.
The money that we spend abroad is better used here
for our own country. And we've we've marched ourselves down
(25:14):
a dangerous path where we do have to deal with
global trade, you know, a global market of trade that
we've been in mesh ten for many, many, many decades,
many many decades. You can look at NAFTA you get
I mean, you know, you go back to seventies, the seventies,
but Nixon and Kissinger we've been in meshed intentionally and
(25:36):
meshed in global trade for a long time. So even
the stability of our markets at a fundamental level are
going to be deeply affected by the choices that we
make on the international stage economically. Still, still, the conversations
need to happen, and people are right to challenge it.
(25:59):
The question is how do we respond to challenge. One
of the most uh one of the most honorable things
I think I've ever seen, is the great Steve Bannon's
response to the rift that developed between himself and President
(26:21):
Trump after the first term. And he never waivered. He
never you know, pulled this support. He never threw a
hissy fit. You know, he never took it personally. He's
never said, oh, poor me, the president doesn't like me,
he's upset with me. No, that's that's not what soldiers do.
(26:44):
Not if you say the goal is to save this country,
see you, you can separate the two. You can say,
this is my personal relationship with the president, this is
how I feel personally about these individual things. But the
goal is still the same. The goal remains the same.
The goal is we have the power right now to
crush our opponents. And if we don't crush them, sure
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as the sun will rise they will defeat us. And
when they defeat us, some of you are going to prison.
It's not just going to be the Steve Bannons or
the Alex Joneses of the world this time. It's not
just going to be the President Trump's. Some of you
out there in the audience are going to prison. You're
going to prison for criticizing the establishment. You're going to
prison for what used to be the freedom of movement.
(27:28):
You're going to prison for not being vaccinated. You're going
to prison for whatever you know, wacky trumped up charges
you get from your your your IP history from the
internet providers. Some of you are going to prison and
some of you will die. That's as honest as I
(27:50):
can be. We know how color revolutions work. We know
how Marxist revolutions work. We know that the centrist to
the center of the road capitalists, they don't have the
stomach or the heart to stop the angry mob. When
it gets too loud, they will fold. That's how some
(28:10):
of these corporations went woke in the first place. They
had the money, they had the power, they had the influence,
they had the attorneys, they had all the resources you need.
Marshalled in their favor to fight the insanity of the
woke left. But they couldn't. They're weak mentally, emotionally, they're
susceptible to democratic mobs. We're the last bashion of freedom,
(28:39):
We're the last bashion of hope for this republic, for
this country, whether we like it or not. And it's
not fair. Is it fair? No, it's not fair. Life
isn't fair. But I guarantee you, if we don't figure
this out, we will lose and we will die. It's
not extremism, it's is serious. They wanted to throw the
(29:02):
President of the United States in prison for life. Ninety
one indictments, ninety one felony indictments. They touted around like
it was the you know, the sort of Damocles. And
all the indictments have been overturned. Why because they weren't
legitimate to begin with. And these people, an age old
(29:24):
adage is the end justifies the means, and they believe
that wholeheartedly. They believe the end justifies the means. And
they'll wear that evil, sadistic smirk on their face while
they do it in front of everybody, insaulting the intelligence
of the American people and themselves.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
True wickedness, true evil.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
The fact that they were going to try and cart
that man off to prison, knowing good and well that
those indictments were politically motivated is absolutely abhorn And we
have to remember that, we have to remember who are
in a And maybe we table this conversation about Israel
for now, And I don't mean table it as in,
(30:10):
you know my position is any different, but is there
a bigger issue?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
To me?
Speaker 7 (30:17):
The bigger issue is the integrity of the elections. The
integrity of our elections is a bigger issue, and artificial
intelligence is the granddaddy of them all. My position about
Israel is no different, and I've been very even handed. Look,
you want to criticize Israel, you have that right as
(30:38):
an American citizen.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
We all do.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
And I have plenty of criticism for Israel and for
the lobbyists and for the attempt to censor people who
have a legitimate and reasonable question about our relationship there.
Very critical, so much so they call me anti Semitic.
I mean, even even though my mentor is a Ukrainian Jew.
(31:03):
I mean, if you didn't see the episode last night,
please call me crazy on YouTube, Please go and watch it.
Professor Penn laid out what it means to be Jewish
in such an honest and eloquent way. He really did
very important podcast last night with the great Professor Penn.
I think they ranted on war rooms platforms as well,
(31:24):
very important for the times that we're living in. So
I'm very very critical. But don't tell me Israel's not
a legitimate nation, and don't tell me that those aren't
the real Jews. Number One, if you fight a war
for your territory, you organize it as a country, and
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you're willing to defend your territorial integrity. You are a country,
no matter if somebody likes that or not. That's the
way it is. You're a country. The Kurr's got a
territory there in the Middle East. They might as well
be considered a country by all, you know, geopolitical standards,
in policy. They are a country. The Kurds have a country.
(32:07):
It's not you know, it's not concretized with any real
borders or constitution. But trust and believe the Kurds have
a territory that is just as good as a country
in many respects.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So Israel's a legitimate nation. And if you're Jewish.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
If you're Jewish, like you believe in Judaism, most faith
is a voluntary submission to God. You can choose to
be Jewish, you can choose to be Christian, you can
choose to be Muslim. So you know, there are no
real sons of Abraham or not. It's voluntary. So these
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two arguments are goofy, And there are a lot of
goofy arguments over there on the right about Israel in general,
but there are some legitimate criticisms as well, like our
entire form policy as for the most part since World
War Two, been centered around our relationship there in the
Middle East. That was never originally about our faith in
God or our spiritual relationship with the nation of Israel
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or the Jewish people. It was about energy. It was
about energy, It was about military expansion. It was about
an empire, a formation, a foreign policy that we no
longer desire. Broadly, we no longer desire to be the
world's police, especially in a region we've been in for
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seventy years and it's as tumultuous as it's ever been.
It didn't work, It didn't work. What makes Israel legitimate nations?
In nineteen sixty six, they won a war on off
fronts against their neighbors with our help, some of our help.
In that day, They, like we did during the American
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Revolutionary War, claimed their independence and their status as a
sovereign state. But they faced a similar attack recently. So
what did our involvement really do? And I'm more on
the extreme side. I don't care what Israel does. These
people claim they want to kill, you know, the Jews,
(34:18):
and they want to wipe Israel off the face of
the earth. That's their right as human beings to claim.
It's not their right, however, to do it without any
without any challenge, without catching some bullets in return. People
are going to fire back. That's the way of the world.
And if Israel wants to do greater Israel and they
want to take that entire region, God bless them, God
(34:39):
speed to you. The question is what's America's involvement and
what's the expectation on our people and on our public
figures to talk about the situation in one particular way
or another. That's the question. Do I agree with everything?
Tuck across and the saying no, do I agree with everything?
Nick went to as a saying Candice one's absolutely not.
(35:02):
But when they tell the truth and they say something
less legitimate, it's right for us to say, hey, wait, man,
that's legitimate. All right, we hear you, We hear that.
And there is a lot of that. I've never known
Tucker Carlson to be a guy that wasn't wasn't rational
in his thought He's a very very smart individual, very
(35:25):
smart individual, very measured, very detail oriented in the way
that he formulates his thoughts. Will be talking about this
a little bit more on the other side of the break.
Gott to sort this out. It's okay, don't shy away
from it, don't cower, don't run and hide. Confrontation is fine.
(35:48):
That's what separates us from the left. Confrontation sometimes it's necessary.
You're watching the Royce White Show. Stay tuned. We'll be
back in a moment. Welcome back to the Royce White Show.
I'm your host, Royce White here and the Belly of
the Beast, Minneapolis, Minnesota. You're watching Real America's Voice, headquarters
(36:12):
of the Ultra Maga and America First Movement. Yeah, is
there a civil war breaking out in the MAGA movement
between the Maga Movement and the America First Movement. I mean,
part of me says, sure, this conversation we have to have.
Part of me tends to think, right, when you get
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up to the point where you're actually gonna be able
to win and change things, people have a tendency to
sabotage themselves. And I'm not saying on one side or
the other of the Civil War. I just mean that
the human condition makes people gravitate towards self sabotage and
(36:55):
the moments where they're close to victory. Every people, every mission,
every team faces that moment where you're right on the
verge of victory. You're right there, and there's a propensity
of proclivity just to trip yourself up. You know, your
your own worst enemy. Right now, I think our movement
(37:19):
has become its own worst enemy. I say it again.
My position on Israel is very clear, and I think
it's even handed. Don't be saying that those aren't the
real Jews. Don't be saying Israel is not a legitimate
nation because America had to help them win a war,
the French had to help us win the American Revolutionary War.
Doesn't make America any less legitimate. And all nations stand
(37:43):
upon conquered land. So that's a dumb argument too. If
that's the case, there are no borders anywhere and there
are no nations. Not lost on me that our far
left opponents are far left financiers and philosophical thought leaders
make the argument that there are no real nations. There
is no such thing as a nation or borders. We're
not playing that game.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Now.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
If you say, how much money do we spend every
year to be involved in a region that is not
vital to our national interest, that's a legitimate question. That's
a completely legitimate question. Even more important question is what's
the expectation in our movement from our leaders to capitulate
(38:28):
to this relationship so much so that you can't have
any criticism whatsoever without being called a racist or a
bigot or an anti semi. That is a pertinent question,
because that's a question about our culture. That is a
question about our fundamental belief in American principles and values
and freedom of speech and the right, nay, the duty
(38:53):
to speak the truth. Israel is not a nation that
can do no wrong. No nation is an that can
do no wrong, because no man can do no wrong.
There was only one perfect man in his name was
Jesus Christ. So until Jesus Christ returns and stands at
the head of a nation and leads a nation, then
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a nation will be beyond critique or reproach until that day.
Until that day, everybody can be criticized, everybody can be questioned,
But there are still bigger issues. The integrity of our
elections is number one. Let me say it very clear
(39:35):
for everybody. The integrity of our elections is numero who No.
And one A is what are we going to do
about artificial intelligence? Because if we play around with that
too much longer, we're not going to get a chance
to We're not going to get a chance to make
a choice. The choice will be made for us. So
(39:55):
there are bigger issues. Is that is that too much
to Is that? Is that complicated? Is that hard to
understand that this is a hot issue, But it's not
the issue. It's not the issue. It's a good issue
for us to distract ourselves from a feeling of unempowerment
(40:17):
to deal with the real issues. And that's where I
just I won't participate in the scapegoating. I don't like scapegoats.
My number one pet peeve, I think in life has
been scapegoats. We actually get the term scapegoat from the
Jewish culture. Un ironically. Escapegoating is during during the you know,
(40:38):
the during the Jewish tradition, they cast their sins onto
a goat, and they cast a goat into the wild,
and that's a way to to uh, you know, repent
for the things that have gone wrong in the village
or in the tribe.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
My number one pet peeve is scapegoats. I can't stand them. Again.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
I kind of get the sense that we don't really
feel empowered to deal with artificial intelligence or these elections.
We feel unempowered to deal with artificial intelligence because a
part of us, you know, convenience would be the death
of freedom. A part of us likes all the things
that come along with the advancement of technology. So we
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don't really want to have to go there, and we
don't really want to have to go there about the
elections because ay, we might find something that we don't
like or b B. There is a subtle implication that
that issue, that particular issue, threatens to unravel the entire
political theater, meaning that if there was ever a real
(41:45):
and when I say real, I mean a real push
to solidify the integrity of our elections. Your elits, your
political eleads, your financially leads, your global elites, who you've
given so much power and freedom to may say, you
know what, we're done playing the game. We're gonna go
straight to authoritarianism. And I bring that point up to
talk about this monolithic black vote here to end. We
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tend to think that black people vote Democrat because they're stupid.
We tend to think that black people vote Democrat because
they've been convinced by the narrative. No, it's much darker
than that. It's much more pernicious than that. Black people
vote eighty five to ninety percent Democrats still because the
(42:32):
Democrat liberal order has run this country in the world
for the last sixty years. And you get neo kon
Rhinos like David Frum who stand up before a Canadian
off audience and say, the point of conservatism is to
conserve what is best about liberalism. That is why black
people vote Democrat because they've won. Traditionally, they've won. Black
(42:59):
people are kicking the winning side. They don't want to
be on the wrong end of the bullying. And you
know who the bullies are. If you ever spent any
time on the playground, you know who the bullies are
and you know the dangers if you cross them. And
that is a lack of sacred honor in the Black community,
(43:19):
no doubt about it. I'm not giving them an excuse.
I think it's dishonorable for you to go with the
winning team because they're the winning team. But I'm just
making the point that it is traditionally the case throughout
human civilization that people tend to pick the winning side.
That's how you got Nazi Germany. The reason why Adolph
Hitler and the Third Reich had ninety percent support in
(43:40):
Germany is because people had the instinctual, you know, the
instinct to know the consequences if they didn't. You know how,
I know Black people are smarter than we give them
credit for, because out of all of the supid choices
(44:00):
they've made following along the Democrat Party, they still didn't
take that vaccine. They still didn't take the vaccine. In fact,
some of you and the audience you took the vaccine.
And I know, I know, I don't shame you for
it whatsoever. I understand it was a moment of fear
and we were led by the guidance that we had
the best information that we had at the time. But
(44:22):
there were some among you who stood up and said,
my dear friend, doctor zev Zelenko, if you remember doctor
zev Zelenko, My how time flies. We lost the great
doctor zev Zeleenko, who went to Israel before the Rabbinical court,
the hyrabbinical court, and told them, please do not do
this with the vaccine. You are setting a dangerous precedent
(44:45):
that will be used against us in the future to
kill the Jewish people. Funny how in all of this
conversation about Israel we forget the heroes like doctor zev Zealenko,
who by the way, endorsed me in my first run
United States Congress. I talked to him a month before
he passed, talk to him often. And so you can't
(45:08):
call me an anti semi And you know you can.
You can't avoid the reality and the truth that I'm
willing to speak. You can try, you can try to
play fast and loose with the with you know, with
the semantics and the and the propaganda all you want to.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
But I'm a man that speaks the truth.
Speaker 7 (45:25):
There's a reason why why the gray Steve Banner, says
royces All signaled no noise, speaking truth to power. You
can't call me anti semitic. You can, but it didn't work.
Doesn't phaze me one bit. I know the truth. The
truth is that we here in the conservative movement, we
(45:47):
do a lot of bickering, We do a lot of gossiping.
We get caught up in this, this high brow intellectual
debate more so than the political activism. We need to
actually organize the people, we need to vote for us,
and we like to self sabotage. Now, some people would
say it's not organic self sabotage, it's intentional, strategic, conscious
(46:08):
self sabotaged. And there's plenty of legitimate argument for that.
For again, David from Intellectual thought Leader, editor in chief
of The Atlantic, You Know is Atlanticism, stands up before
a Canadian crowd and a debate with Steve Bannon and says,
the point of conservatism is to conserve what is best
about liberalism. And we wonder why the Democrat liberal order
(46:31):
has taken over the entire the entire country, root and branch,
And then why black people who are vulnerable, and they
are vulnerable psychologically, spiritually, socially, we wonder why they vote
monolithic for the Democrat Party. They're picking the winners. We
(46:54):
have to do the things necessary to become the winning team,
and you'll see people leaving droves. And that's what President
Trump represents. President Trump represents a shift in the tectonic
plates of our political landscape so great that for the
first time, black people go, you know what, we can
leave the winning team because the winning team may in
(47:16):
fact change, and it may change for good. We need
more of that. We need more of that. We need
less vickery. We need more honest conversation. We need less censorship.
We need less canceling than another episode of the Royce
White Show. I wish I had more time with you today. Next,
(47:37):
you got the great Steve Bannon in War room. Shout
out to the entire war room posse. We are the
tip of the spear and the ultra Maga movement. Americans
come first, American citizens come first. America comes first. Nothing
wrong with that. God Bless God's speed. We'll see you
next weekend. Have a good day.
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.