THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JUNE 10, 2025 (EP. #4548)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON,

GUESTS:
MIKE LINDELL
BILL MCGINLEY
BEN BERGQUAM 
JAMES RICKARDS

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our local PD to protect our own national Guard because
they're being used upon. Show some decency, I show some humanity.
More importantly, act like the commander in chief. This chaos
is manufactured, and it's my job as governor working with
local law enforcement to clean up their mess.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I can't emphasize enough the level of fear and terror
that is in Angelino's right now. He talked about violent
criminal drug dealer. You go from a drug dealer to
chasing people through the parking lot of a home depot
where there's day laborers working.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
This entire situation is.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
What leaves us believing that we're being used as a
test case.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
The response of the American people to it has been
exactly what you think. I mean, bigger protests than ever
in Los Angeles, the solidarity protests that I just listed
all day Sunday and all those cities all across the
country today, Solidary protests, Solidarity protests in Atlanta, across the
street from Atlanta's Immigration Court building, Solidary protest today in Baltimore,
Solidary protest today in Boston, and also in Chicago and Tampa, Florida.

(01:42):
Today there was a huge solidarity protest in Rawleigh, North Carolina.
In Washington, d C. Today, there were protests outside the
Justice Department headquarters. You know, and when people stand up
and protest, what we are learning over and over again
in this administration is that protest works. And one of

(02:07):
the ways that it works is that it puts steel
in the spine of the political opposition in this country.
For elected Democrats, it clarifies thanks for them, It shows
them that the more they themselves push back as elected officials,
the more support they will have from their own constituents.
And so it's a sort of virtuous circle right amid

(02:30):
this primal surge of protests, this moral revulsion and rejection
of what Trump is doing. I mean, you see the
elected Democrats stepping up and standing.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Up to when the context of the massive military parode
that Donald Trump is throwing for himself in Washington, d C.
This coming weekend to mark his birthday as well as
the anniversary the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
The US Army.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Donald Trump craves and always has craved sort of militarized
shows of force that is endemic to who he is as.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
A political figure.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
He wants to surround himself, which shows a force and strength,
and he was shocked and furious to find that many
military leaders in his first term didn't share his views
of the politicization of the military that Donald Trump had
in mind for his presidency. This time around, he's finding
it much easier to have his demands met. He is

(03:27):
a different kind of Defense secretary in Pete Hegsap.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
He's already fired his first Chairman of.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
The Joint Chiefs, and he has the ability now to
create these spectacles almost on demand, and I.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Anticipate that he will continue to do so.

Speaker 7 (04:30):
Do you think the president was right to override the
rights of the state in terms of making its own
decisions and in this case he chose to send.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
It that's a miss I come from Merchmond, Virginia, so
I know something about states rights. In Gavin Newsom is
acting like a neo Confederate right now. The federal government
has every availability to do what they did to federalize
national regards, particularly if they think of the Commander in
chief thinks that's something's not being handled a proper and

(05:00):
that's what President did. Our argument today on the show
is that he should double and triple down today with
ice rates.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I mean, we've had.

Speaker 8 (05:07):
An invasion of this country just on Biden's watch of
ten to thirteen million illegal alien invaders, and they all
have to go home, not just the criminals. Every person
that came here in Biden's watch has to be deported.
And that's what they're trying to stop now with these
with people like Mayor Bass and Gavin Newsom. And it's
absolutely the prerogative of the President's commander.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
In chief to do what he did.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
So in what way is a situation that we've seen
just in the last couple of days in Los Angeles
an invasion or a rebellion as described in the Peace
of Law that the President has referred.

Speaker 8 (05:40):
To, Well, there's been invasion people specifically, we agree to
that thirteen million people came, which he had as ICE
agents during their normal raids to basically get people to
deport them out of the country. And this was stopped.
This was stopped by this mob. This is what was
surrounding the ICE headquarters. Couldn't let ICE out and the
local LAPD didn't really intervene. You know, over the last

(06:02):
two days, the lnpd's kind of stood down.

Speaker 9 (06:04):
Maybe a redline for everyone that's not to deploy US
forces domestically here. It's clear that Donald Trump is tearing
this country apart. He's pitting American citizens against one another.
The National Guard men and women who have been deployed
to the streets of Los Angeles, they're citizens of California.

(06:24):
I'm sure they don't like the idea that they have
to fulfill their obligations as National Guards people. You know,
despite the recommendations, the strong recommendation of the governor and
the mayor not to do that. But Donald Trump is
determined to have this confrontation and provoke confrontation. And that's
why just listening to Mike Johnson basically say it's okay

(06:45):
to deploy US military forces domestically here against American citizens.
I mean this just after one hundred and twenty days
or so of this administration. I can just, you know,
imagine where it's going to go over the next twenty
days and remember the next three and a half years.
And I'm hoping that there's going to be individuals of
principle in the Republican Party who.

Speaker 10 (07:05):
Were going to say enough is enough.

Speaker 9 (07:08):
But you know, I've lost faith in so many of
them who have just been willing to give Donald Trump
everything he wants again irrespective of law and order, respect
of the constitution, respective of common sense, and irrespective of
what keeps this country together, which is the people that
keep us together.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
And again, I think.

Speaker 9 (07:26):
Donald Trump is going down this road intentionally again to
try to provoke these types of confrontations that's going to
go nowhere.

Speaker 11 (07:33):
Good immigrant voters, foreign born voters have gone tremendously to
the right on this issue in twenty twenty four and
twenty twenty five versus where they were in twenty twenty.
Closest to our trust Warren immigration, you go back to
twenty twenty, Democrats get this, held a thirty two point
lead on this issue. Immigrant voters were in the Democratic camp.
Jump forward to twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five.
Look at that shift, a forty point shift to the

(07:56):
right among immigrant voters. Republicans now now lead on this
issue by eight points over Democrats, more so than any
other group that I could find. The group of voters
who became more hawkish on immigration, where in fact immigrants themselves,
immigrants who are registered to vote in this country.

Speaker 12 (08:15):
Now that folks have.

Speaker 13 (08:16):
Their red meat, now that they're going to see the
spectacle of quote unquote LA on fire, which it's not right.
What will happen will reactivate the ugliness that God him
an office in the first place, will focus now the
clear why they love it, because we know that he's
always good on the immigration question. And then the second thing,
this reminds me historically of the It's not a clear analogy,

(08:39):
but when the nation, when when these political factions divided
the nation in between between slaveholders and slave catchers, when
they made everybody with the future of slave law, all
of us had to if someone escaped, all of us
had to return that particular piece of property to these
folks with ice running around LA forcing people to make choices.

(09:01):
Will they protict their their friends, their neighbors, their family members,
Will they take will they confront these folks and they're terrorized.

Speaker 14 (09:08):
I'm sitting here trying to figure out, right, what will
the country's stomach? Are they going to allow this man
to do this? And the answer that I keep coming to, yes, say,
I don't know what else to say. How can I say?

Speaker 13 (09:26):
Here's the thing, Donald Trump, as a political charlatan of sorts,
gives Americans license to be who they really are.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
They don't have to pretend.

Speaker 12 (09:39):
And when you see what.

Speaker 13 (09:40):
They really are, who they really are, these people who
support it, right, it's dark.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
I guess my hopecifics of what we still I just
for the weekend.

Speaker 8 (09:51):
You just asked me, so where's the violence? What did
your eyes tell you?

Speaker 7 (09:54):
Did you watch the foot But what I'm saying to
is some of not all, some of those protests are
US citizens. My colleagues on the ground have spoken to them.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
If you're both.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
But I just want to get to the tanking morn.
I want to get to the tanking behind this and
what Pete Haig said, the sinks. It's interesting for our
viewers to see this. If you have US Marines in
California rand protesters, does that not move America?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Protest different?

Speaker 8 (10:22):
It's not protests, it's not protesters.

Speaker 12 (10:25):
See this is what you try to do with your
language all the time.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's not a protest.

Speaker 8 (10:29):
That was a riot.

Speaker 12 (10:30):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (10:31):
They're interfering with folks that are being deported out of
this country. They are breaking the law and their writing.
They shut down Los Angeles for like eighteen hours yesterday.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's not a protest.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
Nobody's saying about peaceful protests. If you want to come
protests they intervene with ICE agents doing their job. Certainly
should call up the Marines and the US Army if
you have to.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Or activate the reserve.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
The Army Reserve national federalized, the National Guard is just
step one. But folks have to understand and particularly BBC owned,
embrace this. This is not going to stop. We're going
to do this, and I'll be blunt. This should have
been done in England a long time ago. You guys
should have stood up to the fact of the problem
you've got with illegal mass migration. This is what has
to happen. All you're saying, you have to have a country,

(11:14):
you have to have borders, you have to have your sovereignty.
And President Trump has the American people in backing. He
won the national election. The polling right now is overwhelming
you support this. They're going to go to federal court
argue it out.

Speaker 12 (11:25):
We'll see how that plays up.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
But I will tell you today in Los Angeles they're
going to double a triple the number of ice rays
they're going to do on this. Now. The only problem
I have with the ICE rates they're not arresting CEOs.
I think they would go into these workplaces and start
arresting the white collar managers. I hold them just as
responsible and maybe more responsible than the folks that have
the job. This is the primal scream of a dining regime.

(11:52):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people. You're not going to free shot all these
networks lot about the people.

Speaker 10 (12:01):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it.

Speaker 12 (12:07):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 15 (12:12):
Mega media?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 10 (12:19):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 8 (12:23):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
War Room.

Speaker 15 (12:30):
Use your host, Stephen k ma.

Speaker 10 (12:36):
It's Tuesday, ten June. You're your lord. Twenty twenty five.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
I want to thank the Real America's Voice crew in
Denver and Parker and particularly my producer Cameras Wontant. That
was a work of art that was a perfect arc
of exactly where we stand. What the two sides are
one is for law and order and to get our
sovereignty back right.

Speaker 10 (12:57):
And I hate to say it, you've got to.

Speaker 8 (13:00):
Press the bet today, Holman and I love Tom Homan,
but a strong recommendation.

Speaker 10 (13:06):
Tom.

Speaker 8 (13:06):
You know, we didn't want Pam Bondi to be a
co host over there at Fox. Get back in the
Justice Department and to start inditing people. Let's start arresting people.
Tom enough TV. We got it, We got the message
laid out right there. President Trump's going to Afford Bragg today.
He's going to Afford Bragg.

Speaker 10 (13:25):
Our own Brian Glenn's gonna be with.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
Him today in Los Angeles and throughout the country because
Dallas and San Antonio, other play started light up. The
Ice should triple down today in LA. And I didn't
like Tom. I love you, but I don't like you know,
Peter Schwarzertier at the Great Peter Sweitzer, you're saying, Hey,
that wasn't about an ICE ray, that we're doing some

(13:47):
money laundering.

Speaker 10 (13:48):
We stopping cartels.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
Don't apologize all ten million and a half to go,
not just the criminals in the insane asylument. This is
what Bass and knew. Some are whining about if you're
here illegally. You're going to go back to your home.
And if ICE has to enforce that, it has some force.
We hope most people just pack up and leave. This

(14:10):
is righteous cleaning up this mess. The Democrats are on
the wrong side of this. Look at Harry Enton. We
can play much more of Harry Inton sitting there going
this is This is absolutely the issue.

Speaker 10 (14:24):
The United States wants. They want their simary back.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
You know who wants it, Hispanic citizens and African American citizens.
They want these festering sores of these big cities like
Los Angeles cleaned up, the schools, cleaned up, the medical system,
cleaned up.

Speaker 10 (14:41):
The law and order, and the neighborhood's cleaned up.

Speaker 8 (14:43):
And the way you do that is to deport ten
million illegal alien wait for it, invaders. And at the
same time, let's get Mayorkist and Biden the entire crowd,
arrest them.

Speaker 15 (14:58):
America, use your host. Stephen came back.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
Okay, We're going to go to the street to la
in a moment. I've got the great Bill McGinley, the
is in the House of the Bills. Also a guy
born and raised in southern California ran at Huntington beach.

Speaker 10 (15:15):
Yes, well, baby, he went to school in La.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
Went to school in LA. We're going to get to
you in a second. Let's Mike Lindale. Day two of
your testimony. I think is today connect some dots here
for me, brother, well.

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Speaker 10 (17:06):
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Speaker 16 (17:08):
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Speaker 8 (17:12):
Okay, Mike, I gave you the watchword yesterday and you
delivered with your shield or on your shield. Mike Lindell,
go forth and conquer. Mike Lindell.

Speaker 12 (17:21):
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Speaker 8 (17:23):
It's all on the line. My Pillow two goes to
the jury later in the week. We'll give you coverage
non stop. I want to play Harry into I get
berkwam in the streets of LA. So just make sure
you understand the big picture here. The overwhelming show of
force is what broke this riot and sent them all home.

Speaker 16 (17:40):
Right.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
Otherwise you had LA burning for a week and CNN saying, oh,
look at this, they're just so frustrated, broken.

Speaker 10 (17:46):
But this is just the predicate.

Speaker 8 (17:48):
The key is to get back that the ICE agents
need to get back into the streets today in a
massive show of force and rounding people up and deporting
them back to.

Speaker 10 (17:58):
Their home countries.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
Do what you mainly to do it, make sure that
you do it in appropriate manner, but it's got to
be done.

Speaker 10 (18:06):
Let's go.

Speaker 8 (18:06):
I want to play Harry Inton one more time. I've
got the McGinley here in house, and we've got on
the streets of Los Angeles our own Ben Burke.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
One.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
Let's play herey Inton one more time.

Speaker 11 (18:15):
Immigrant voters form born voters have gone tremendously to the
right on this issue in twenty twenty four and twenty
twenty five versus where they were on twenty twenty Closest
to our trust, Warren, immigration, you go back to twenty twenty,
Democrats get this, held a thirty two point lead on
this issue. Immigrant voters, we're in the Democratic camp. Jump
forward to twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five. Look
at that shift, a forty point shift to the right

(18:38):
among immigrant voters. Republicans now lead on this issue by
eight points over Democrats, more so than any other.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Group that I could find.

Speaker 11 (18:48):
The group of voters who became more hawkish on immigration,
where in fact, immigrants themselves, immigrants who are registered to
vote in this country first ran back in twenty sixteen.
Immigrant voters are one of his weekd bots. But look
at this Trump's vote share in presidential elections among again
immigrant citizens, those who registered the vote.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Look at this. In twenty sixteen, you got thirty six
percent of the vote. You go to twenty twenty, thirty
nine percent of the vote.

Speaker 11 (19:10):
Look at this in twenty twenty four, all the way
up to forty seven percent of the vote. Some polls
I looked at had him barely losing that vote.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Some polls I looked at had him barely winning that vote.

Speaker 11 (19:19):
Again, there is no block of voters that shifted more
to the right from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Then immigrant voters and Donald.

Speaker 11 (19:28):
Trump, at least in some surveys, actually won that vote.
On average, it's about equal. So there may be all
this stuff right about undocumented immigrants and Trump being harsh
on them, but immigrant voters themselves have increasingly liked Donald
Trump and have increasingly moved to the right on immigration
into the Republican camp. The net favorable rating immigrants who
are here illegally among immigrants citizens again those registered to

(19:50):
vote in twenty twenty, look at this plus twenty three
points on the net favorable rating.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
But look at where we were in twenty twenty.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
Bom in the streets, Ben Burg cram in the streets
of Los Angeles. Ben, you're reporting, will play him later
or throughout the day.

Speaker 10 (20:04):
You've done Man in the street.

Speaker 8 (20:05):
Interviews of people cleaning up the mess that are immigrants citizens.
They agree with Harry Innton and CNN.

Speaker 17 (20:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny. Absolutely hands down. The immigrant in
particularly the legal voting immigrant community in America. This everything
that you're seeing from the Democrats right now, all the
defacing of property and attacking of police and law enforcement
and ice, you're just turning them more maga. But what
we're also seeing, and this was pretty shocking. Not so

(20:34):
much shocking, but to get them on camera. I was
just walking down the streets to get over here today
and we had this crew of guys cleaning off the graffiti.
I walk up and the guy turns me and says,
what does this prove? And I walk over and he
just starts giving me an interview. I walk further down
to the Walt Disney Concert Hall, a historic landmark here
in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
It's got graffiti all over it.

Speaker 17 (20:52):
There's this woman across the street shaking her head same thing.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I just start filming her. She starts talking.

Speaker 17 (20:57):
You know, as she even said, I would generally be
sympathetic to their cause, but when you do stuff like this,
you're turning.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
The people off. Those were her words. You won't wait
till you see the interview.

Speaker 17 (21:07):
This is not just turning off the immigrant community, the
black American community who feel like they've been abandoned by
the Democrats. This is turning off the liberal white Democrat base.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
So keep it up, Democrats.

Speaker 17 (21:18):
I mean, I don't know whose strategy this is, but
it's it's working.

Speaker 10 (21:22):
For moment.

Speaker 8 (21:22):
You get the data, there's you you got you got,
you got the Walton family. This all kinds of things.
Hangover for a second bench, stay right there and come
back to you. McGinley. You're from LA you know the city.
I want to the legal immigrant community. Has their schools destroyed,
their healthcare destroyed. Trump's their savior. That's what he's coming
in and trying to do, is he not?

Speaker 18 (21:41):
Yeah, I mean it's one of the reasons that they
came to this country in the first place was so
as rule of law not men.

Speaker 10 (21:46):
Right.

Speaker 18 (21:46):
One of the basic civics lessons that we all had
growing up is that in the United States, it's a
rule ruled by laws, not men. We don't want subjective standards.
And if you look at what Gavin Newsom and Karen
Base are doing. Bass are doing basically saying, we're going
to selectively decide which laws are going to be enforced
and which ones are not. That is a personal decision
for them, and under their federalist system federal law, Trump's

(22:11):
state law, it occupies the field under the supremacy clause
in the court cases are telling you that the federal
government meeting the President of the United States, based upon
the authority that the Congress has given him by statute,
by cameralism and presentment has the authority to do this.

Speaker 10 (22:26):
I should follow the law.

Speaker 18 (22:27):
They should go and get the warrants for some of
these folks, but they should also enforce the immigration laws.

Speaker 10 (22:32):
A lot of times you don't need the warrants. Yeah, no, no,
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 18 (22:35):
You should enforce the immigration laws without the warrants. But
basically they should follow the law. They're going to have
the support of the community. They may not have the
support of Karen bats and Gavin Newsom, but that's okay
because everybody is looking at what they're doing with the
people who are throwing cinder blocks at police officers at
law enforce.

Speaker 8 (22:54):
Let's talk about that. Let's talk about this. There's obviously
pre stage. You have bricks, you have center blocks.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
All of it.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
You had the Watch riots in the mid sixties. You
then had the Rodney King in ninety two. I think
now today and President Trump, what has changed. Because President
Trump has had a massive show of federalized National Guard.
He's got a Batania Marines coming up. I think he's
put another two thousand National Guard. He's thinking about Army Reserve.

(23:20):
He's going to Fort Bragg today as a show of force.
Why is LAPD like over the weekend? It was kind
and I kind of feel for these guys, the frontline guys,
because a little bit looks like they're forced to play
namby Pamby.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
There were virtually no arrest right in San Francisco.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
They had a four one hundred and forty two arrest
in LA virtually nothing.

Speaker 10 (23:38):
What's going on?

Speaker 18 (23:38):
Yeah, because the rank and file in LAPD and the
LA County sheriff deputies don't have the support of the political.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
Leaders in the county and the city or he get
into the police chain of command.

Speaker 18 (23:49):
Yeah, I think some of those guys are trying their
best to support the rank and file. But if you
talk to the rank and file, and I have friends
who were part of the rank and file and still
talk to some of them, a lot of them are demoralized.
A lot of them don't want to risk anything because
they know that the city, the county, and the state
are not going to back them up. When you have
some of these folks who are trying to cause physical
harm and property damage, they want to enforce the law,

(24:10):
They want to get them off the streets. Why because
the overwhelming majority of Angelino's in Californians are good people.
They're hard working people. They're working multiple jobs just to
be able to afford to stay in California because of
all the taxes that Gavin Newsom and Karen bats are
imposing on them, whether it's eight dollars gas or anything else.
These people just want to live their lives and raise

(24:31):
their kids and have their small business.

Speaker 8 (24:33):
Unless you take care of the illegal alien situation, you're
not going to be able to get the schools back
up to standard, You're not going to be The medical
system there is destroyed, the schools are destroyed, the law
and order, the neighborhoods are destroyed. And the reason is
you have, I think they're talking about in LA maybe
a million or two million illegal aliens until you sort
that problem out the working class Hispanic citizens and working

(24:57):
class African American citizens, because first off, it suppresses.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
Wages so hard.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
This is why the elites in LA, the Gavin Newsoman's
of the world, love illegal aliens because they get the
grass cut cheaper, their nannies, all of it right, the
people doing the yards, and the wages drop for everybody
in the working class area.

Speaker 18 (25:17):
But all these hardworking people have been living with a
crime ridden city for a long time.

Speaker 10 (25:22):
People forget about that.

Speaker 18 (25:24):
They basically declared, we're not going to prosecute people who
steal items value just.

Speaker 10 (25:30):
Under one thousand dollars.

Speaker 18 (25:31):
You're coming off of the era where they had gascon
as the LADA who acted more like a criminal defense
attorney as opposed to a prosecutor to protect the citizens
and get violent criminals. Whenever the LAPD and the sheriffs
were bringing these folks in and booking them, the prosecutors
were processing them right back out.

Speaker 10 (25:49):
Onto the street. So on the heels of that, now
they have a new LADA.

Speaker 18 (25:54):
Who's better, right, Who's better? But I don't think he's
good enough. I think he needs to take a harder
line on the violent crime. And you know, I think
LA PD needs to know that the political leadership has
their back, which Bass does not. I think that the
La County Sheriff's Department needs to know that the la
that the political leadership has their back.

Speaker 10 (26:12):
And Gavin Newsom right to me.

Speaker 18 (26:14):
My question for Gavin Newsom how much property needs to
be damaged, how much promise he needs to be destroyed?

Speaker 10 (26:20):
How many people need to be injured.

Speaker 18 (26:22):
How many people have to die before you would call
in the national gard and do the right thing. What
is the trigger for you to restore law and order
and actually enforce the law in the state of California
and in Los Angeles, We guys yet to answer that.

Speaker 8 (26:36):
We've got McGinley, Angelino in the house, We've got bren
Bergham on the streets, Jim Rickers, the geo political strategist.

Speaker 10 (26:44):
This is an aspect of the Third World War.

Speaker 8 (26:46):
And also it's going to join us and Chris Meritz,
who knows something about the failed state of California all
next in the war?

Speaker 15 (26:56):
Or use your host, Stephen k Bath.

Speaker 8 (27:05):
It's not just the foot soldiers out front, right, It's
not the foot soldiers out front. And to talk about
narrative control, CNN did not even show the press conference
with Bass last night. They understand that's a loser. How
do we get to the bottom of how this thing's organized.
There's another huge thing financed by the Walton family and
all these billionaires.

Speaker 10 (27:25):
We'll get some names here in a minute, But.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
What do we know?

Speaker 8 (27:28):
Why are we not all Why is the Justice Department
not all over this? Why is the FBI cash said, hey,
he's going to be doing all this, why are we
not all over the financiers and the people in back
of this who ought to be per walking those people
out today.

Speaker 18 (27:39):
Look, I think that after this is done, after they
restore order, I would fully expect that the FBI and
the Department of Justice, it's going to take a look
at a couple of things. Were these protests financed, If yes,
by whom was their coordination? Did that coordination involve obstructing
federal law enforcement processes and arresting, you know, their duties

(28:03):
under federal law. And I think that those are going
to have to be some hard questions that a lot
of people in California, the people who are organizing the protests,
but potentially some of these political leaders as well.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
They passed a thirty four billion, thirty four million dollar
bill of financi at Berkwam answer mcginley's question, you're on
the streets where the preposition bricks and the stones. You've
been down there with the street level. Is this organized
or not?

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Sir?

Speaker 17 (28:29):
Yeah, from the very top, there is coordination by all
these different groups from you know, now you have this
new one no kings, but it's all the same groups Indivisible,
the American Socialist Party, Democratic Socialists of America, all going
back to Great Society, and all of these organizations. It
is all coordinated, all organized. They're communicating to each other.

(28:51):
They've got walkie talkies, they're talking back and forth. Who's
going where. You've got Antifa coordinating with the liberals, the
activist attorneys organizations, the attorney's guilds, they are all coordinated.
And again it's through multiple groups, but it's all coordinated.
And the big thing I mean this to me is
just a Rico case waiting to happen.

Speaker 10 (29:11):
Well, hold it, hold of hang on McGinley.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
The part of the Arizona engine room is telling me
right now, if they cut off the head of the snake,
it all ends.

Speaker 10 (29:22):
You agree with that, No, I think that, Dave.

Speaker 18 (29:24):
I think that back in the day, the dem Dark
Money network was a very top down organization. I think
after the president was elected in twenty sixteen, they all
got together and decided to make it more of a
dispersed group. They wanted to give it the appearance. So
we just can't organic, We just can't.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
But it's still a couple of billionaires in back of it.
The Walton for a couple more than a couple. I
think that's what they're saying. Do you go after the
billionaires today?

Speaker 18 (29:47):
I think you've got to find the organizations or you're
going to find the donors.

Speaker 8 (29:50):
You've done the most, You've done the most work on
all this dark money time together. Where the two or
three this morning that you would tell the Justice Department
to go in seize, get a warrant, seize their record
and let's roll.

Speaker 18 (30:00):
Yeah, I would take I would take a look at
all of the big national dark money groups and look
at the state and local groups that are on the
ground that Bennet's talking about, and what are the transfers.
You can pull those out of the nine nineties that
these groups file. Now the twenty twenty four nine nineties
aren't coming available until probably around November or later. But
I would want to take at and follow the money

(30:22):
because it's not just the national groups that you have there.
You have to, excuse me, follow it down into the
states because that's where the rubber hits the road on
some of these And a lot of people will ignore
California because it's a one party rule state.

Speaker 10 (30:36):
But when you look at some of the activities.

Speaker 18 (30:37):
That are happening on the ground right now in Los Angeles,
Santa Anna and some of these other communities. You need
to get down there and find out these community groups.
Who's financing them, Who's who's.

Speaker 8 (30:49):
Support Another part of the INJURYM is telling me the
trust Afarians, how big a deal is these trust fund kids,
these NEPO baionaire babies that are funding this.

Speaker 18 (30:57):
Look, I don't know who is funding this, Steve so
I don't want to come out and name names, but
I do want to say that there is enough evidence
here for the Oversight Committee in the House of Representative.

Speaker 8 (31:06):
Dude, you're boring me, and right, I get come on, Bill,
and don't get me, But Homan, don't do another TV interview.
Get ice guys at that got Bill McGinley here. Drop
the hammer. He calling Comber. We're gonna have a We're
gonna have another hearing.

Speaker 10 (31:20):
Can I hold it? Can you draft a strongly worded letter?
Maybe we do. That's what the hell.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
Listen, Trump's and in troops, I mean Trump's, Trump's taking
it up.

Speaker 10 (31:30):
But you can walk into gum At the same time.
It broke them though, didn't it.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
Yes, the show of force broke the protesters, Yeah, and
gave the l A p D some backbone. It gave
the the California Highway Patrols of backbones.

Speaker 10 (31:42):
Yacause cavalry saw that there was somebody supporting.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
The cavalry arrived, did it not. That's right, h We're
going to Fort Bragg. Brian Glenn's me in the second hour,
berkwam Uh. Where when are we gonna get your uh?
When are we gonna get your interviews? Your man in
the street interviews? Where are they?

Speaker 17 (31:58):
I'm gonna cut those. I'm gonna cut them up in
the few minutes. As soon as I get him up.
I'll send it to you guys first, and I'll let.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
You know, no, cut him up and come back to me.
We've got time.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
I'm playing in the second hour. This is okay, Harry
Enton told you. The biggest group that shifted this is
Star County, Texas down on the rear ground, where Corte
has been talking about working class Hispanics that are American citizens,
working class blacks that are American citizens, one thousand percent
support what President Trump is doing because you know why,

(32:28):
it's looking out for them.

Speaker 10 (32:29):
They're the ones that are they're bearing the brunt.

Speaker 8 (32:32):
Of this, not the Trustafarians right who are dining off
this and this gets back also they're dining off the
h one B Visa's hang on one second, Bell, I
want to you stick around.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Ben, you go?

Speaker 10 (32:41):
Do you go do your thing? Where do people get
your content?

Speaker 16 (32:44):
Ben?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Go?

Speaker 8 (32:44):
Cut your stuff and come back in the second hour?
Where do people get it?

Speaker 10 (32:47):
In the interim?

Speaker 17 (32:49):
Always first on Real America's Voice at real am Voice,
on all the social media and then my social media
at ben Berkwam, Substack, Frontline America and frontline America dot com.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
Great reporting, So proud of you, brother. Let's bring in records.
I said yesterday that this was another front in the
Third World War and the arc of instability from Kursk
all the way down to the Red Sea, the South
China Sea around Taiwan. This global conflict that's metastasizing. One
of the key areas is the invasion of the United

(33:22):
States was ten million illegal alienvaders. In the mainstream media
went absolutely crazy, ban inputs, weird conspiracies up there, sir.
You're the best geopolitical strategists I know. We're negotiating in
London on rare earths and chips. Right now, we got
a Chinese a PLA People's Liberation Navy carrier battlegroup that's

(33:45):
steaming east of the Second Island Chain. Right when we
said for years it could never happen, You've got the
Russians have hit Kiev last night, I think as hard
as London got hit in some of the nights of
the blitz. But is not one of the biggest battlefields here.
The invasion that took place, and you're seeing it in
La County Jim records.

Speaker 12 (34:07):
Well, that's absolutely right, Steven.

Speaker 19 (34:08):
When you're talking about warfare, you have a lot of
kinetic are potentially kinetic aspects to it. But financial warfare
is as much a part of the geopolitical struggle you're
describing as kinetic warfare, and that happens to be my specialty.
I have one quick story and then I'll kind of
bring this back to the situation in Los Angeles some
years ago. I was asked by the CIA to organized

(34:30):
at clandestine operation to stabilize a certain country.

Speaker 12 (34:34):
I'm not going to mention the name of the country.
I've been there.

Speaker 19 (34:36):
It's a pretty place, but no need to mention the name. So,
but no Bay of pigs kind of stuff. It had
to be financial.

Speaker 10 (34:42):
That was my area.

Speaker 19 (34:45):
So I studied it for a while and I very
quickly realized that you could do it pretty easily by
cutting off remittnesses.

Speaker 12 (34:51):
And for those who.

Speaker 19 (34:52):
Don't know, when people leave their country and go somewhere
else the United States and they get a job, they
make money, they send money back home. I mean everyone's
supposed to do that, what they do, and these remittances.
I identified the channel that they were going through. It
wasn't Venmo, but it was something like that, and it
was an online application, and I identified the channel. I
said to the agency, get your technical people. Cut off

(35:13):
the channel. Say cutting off the oxygen supply, you'll have
social unrest within days.

Speaker 12 (35:19):
And then throw ins to propaganda and take it from there.
So I wrote this up.

Speaker 19 (35:23):
And then with the CIA, you tell them stuff and
they don't tell you anything back. It's kind of a
one way street. So some months later I bumped into
my point of contact. I said, hey, whatever happened to
that idea I put out there. He goes, oh, they
decided not to do it, and I said why not?

Speaker 12 (35:37):
He said they thought it might work. In other words, I.

Speaker 19 (35:40):
Said, oh, you didn't really want to stabilize and me
I just wanted to kind of mess with them a
little bit. But the point is remittances are like oxygen supply.
It will totally destabilize the country. Now bring that to
the big beautiful bill buried in there. Very technical provision.
By the way, I was International Tax Council at the
City for ten years, so this is another one of
my specialties. Vision to put a five percent with holding

(36:02):
tax on remittances to Mexico. Now, before you say, hey,
this is some you know, landscape percenting one hundred bucks
back home. No, the remittances to Mexico are sixty four
point seven billion dollars a year from the US to Mexico.
Individual transfers not be small, but the total is sixty
four point seven billion dollars. That's three point five percent

(36:24):
of Mexican GDP. That's more money than Mexico makes in
oil exports. That's larger than Mexico's trade surplus with the
United States. This is their total oxygen supply. Now you say,
and Claude Steinbabber, it's so huge.

Speaker 10 (36:39):
Yeah, that's part of the scam.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
Hang on, But Jim, why wouldn't you demand that they
be able to show proof of citizenship at Western Union.
And if you can't show legitimate proof of citizenship, you
can't send the wire that the only wire that can
be sent is by a United States citizen. Why would
you why would we allow make it if they try
to do it, take it one hundred percent tax, just

(37:02):
seize it, take it all.

Speaker 10 (37:04):
I mean, why why would just five percent?

Speaker 8 (37:06):
That's fine, I understand that's that's kind of smart, but
it doesn't get to the heart of it.

Speaker 10 (37:10):
The heart of it is.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
That in La County we have is it two million?
I think overall in the county illegal aliens, sir.

Speaker 12 (37:18):
P personally, you could do that. It would not be difficult.

Speaker 19 (37:21):
And uh, you know, just whatever channel they use in
these days, you know, the old day Western Union banks, Venmo, whatever,
they are, a bunch of channels. They're not They're not
difficult to find, and you could put that requirement on them.
By the way, sixty four point seven billion Mexico would
be begging to rejoin the United States.

Speaker 12 (37:38):
I mean that would And this is.

Speaker 19 (37:39):
Why Scheinbaum is completely melting down this and it's more
than just a five percent. Five percent sounds small, and
I agree, it could be as much as you want,
but said we're going to skim five percent.

Speaker 12 (37:51):
But the point is Mexico when they.

Speaker 19 (37:52):
Get the money, they put a value added attacks on it,
sixteen point sixteen percent.

Speaker 12 (37:57):
Value add attacks. So it's a big story. It's not
as you know, people sending.

Speaker 19 (38:01):
Money to their grandmother or whatever in some village. It's
a big source of revenue for the Mexican government. The
cartel takes a skin. The money itself could be use
to pay for the border war. I mean, this is
a even the five percent is a very big deal.

Speaker 10 (38:12):
But you're right.

Speaker 19 (38:13):
If you want to make it higher than that, dial
it up to twenty percent or even one hundred percent.
You could do that, and as I said, Mexico would
gorind to a halt. This is this is a three
point five percent of their GDP coming from Mexicans living
in the United States sending money back home. And by
the way, the provision to put the five percent on
is in the big beautiful bill. So it's it's coming.

Speaker 12 (38:35):
And that's why.

Speaker 19 (38:35):
Now there's some notion I can't I'll just be clear,
this is speculation. I can't verify this, but there's some
notion that because Shinbaum said, we want to mobilize the
Mexican population in the United States to resist this. Now,
she didn't say violence, but is what's going on in
LA in some way that mobilization that she referred to.

Speaker 10 (38:57):
She's throw up. I know, you get a bounce some
observations on all this.

Speaker 18 (39:01):
Look, I think that it's so convenient with all the
short term memory, just from Boulder with the guy who
came in. We had a tear attack in a park,
right Karen bass is yelling about, Oh, they tried to
do a raider. ICE agent showed up at home depot,
we had an anti Semitic attack, and Boulder in a park.

Speaker 10 (39:19):
How soon do people forget that?

Speaker 18 (39:21):
Chris Ray sat before Congress last year, no friend of
the war room, nobody that we trust, saying I've never
seen the red lights blinking like they are right now.
I mean even the Biden administration toward the end realized
the folly of their ways and began to realize how
insecure that they placed America in. And I think that
what we need to do is we need to be
supporting these ICE agents. We need to be supporting federal

(39:44):
law enforcement. President Trump needs our back. Everybody needs to
back him up. You and I have talked about how
we need to almost have a permanent campaign to support him,
not only on the big beautiful bill, on the immigration policy,
everything else that he wants to do, try and write
the ship of everything that's gone wrong.

Speaker 10 (40:02):
I know you got a bounce. I'm gonna contact you.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
I want to have you back on that sup of
days because between between Rickets getting worked up on the remittances,
and you are the expert in the dark money, the
war and Posse right now is blowing up the Chad's
saying they want scalps of billionaires, sons and daughters. So
I want to come at you're the expert of that.
I want to come back.

Speaker 10 (40:22):
We got to cut that. We got to stop the
funding of this.

Speaker 8 (40:25):
The funding it in California, it's coming through it's coming
through their Assembly because it's a one party state. But
also these Baionnaire kids that are funding the destruction of
our country. We got to get an organ and you're
the smartest guy out there about it.

Speaker 18 (40:37):
And in California Assemblance held a press conference I think
it was yesterday where he basically said, you know you're
taking the money from the law enforcement, and you're giving
it to these groups that are helping to organize these protests.

Speaker 10 (40:49):
Hang on, have you give social media everything?

Speaker 15 (40:51):
We want to come back?

Speaker 8 (40:52):
Short commercial break. I got Jim Rickards, Bill McGinley. Short
break back in a moment.

Speaker 15 (40:59):
Your host Stephen K B.

Speaker 10 (41:05):
M Guinea's go a little people under one. People want scalps.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
I can't believe I got Bill McGinley in here first,
first time and this is one of my dearest friends,
first time here actually in studio, side phone, and it's
got to be since before inauguration.

Speaker 10 (41:19):
Yeah, okay, maybe since.

Speaker 8 (41:21):
My prison stint. They want they know McGinley is a hammer,
you know where all the money is? And was McGinley
give me? I think we got to call an oversight committee.
Thatt Comber, Oh my god, People like, getme off.

Speaker 10 (41:33):
What is McGinley?

Speaker 8 (41:34):
That's a body double real quickly, people go get you
for all your information. You've got a great new thing.
We'll get to that when you come back. But what's
going tell me where we'll go.

Speaker 10 (41:44):
On axit w J McGinley get her at McGinley.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
W J.

Speaker 10 (41:49):
Do we have the individual indivisible? Is that is that
loaded yet? The picture of the tweet with the picture
of was that Lee, uh Ezra Levin and Lee.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
I mean, this is one of the issues that's these
Bay and our kids, right, are these kids that are
putting this together, that are financing all this stuff like
Indivisible as I think part of the New Kings. I
think the full paid ad I saw in the New
York Times was by one of the Walton people. I
think we got to get to the people that are
funding this. I mean, otherwise the other people in the

(42:17):
streets that Berkwam's got to deal with, other foot soldiers, right,
they're always going to show up, but you've got to
cut the money off.

Speaker 18 (42:24):
Yeah, but you got to get to the broader network
that's out there. None of this is you can you
view in isolation. You know, you've got to look at
all of the stuff that they've done in elections. You've
got to look at everything that they've done.

Speaker 10 (42:37):
The Justice Department.

Speaker 8 (42:38):
If the Justice Department gets a special deal going here
with Ed Martin or something, you will be open to
be in.

Speaker 10 (42:42):
You and Tom Fitton could be advisors to that.

Speaker 16 (42:44):
Correct.

Speaker 10 (42:45):
Yeah, I'll go in and talk to Ed Martin anytime. Okay.
Perfect social media acts.

Speaker 18 (42:49):
Once again McGinley or w J. McGinley and get her McGinley, w.

Speaker 8 (42:54):
Jack folks go blowing up today, said m ban is
bringing for an hour to be a hammer. You're hunting
the beach guy, act like a hunting beach. Tinian beach.
By the way, talk about a city that's flipped. Yeah, way,
it's a bright red dot in a blue state. It's amazing. Yeah,
those surfers, it's a full mega down there. You walk
through the street, you can see why on a Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 10 (43:13):
Yeah, spontaneous Trump demonstrations at the pier. I unbelievablebull mega.
Bill McGinley, love your brother, thanks for having me on
oversych Committee.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
Wow, uh, ricords the broader war here, the Russians, the
Russians hit they're slugging it out now the Ukrainians and
the Russians, are they not?

Speaker 12 (43:34):
They are?

Speaker 19 (43:34):
And you know the the media, well you know New
York Times, they watched the Post and so far they
report on these Russian very large drone attacks five hundred
Johns or more also using ballistic missiles, not using the Russian,
the Ishklins, other missiles and bombers.

Speaker 12 (43:51):
So this is a massive attacks.

Speaker 19 (43:52):
But they don't report very much on what the Ukrainians
did to the Russians. I mean, obviously this blowing up
a few of these strategic bombers. By the way, the
Ukrainians lie about everything, So if they say they blew
up forty bombers, make it five, and it's not clear
that they really blew them up.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
They were damaged to set. Yeah, they did some damage. Nice,
hang on the first. The first casualty of war is
the truth. The Russians don't do a bad job either, right,
I mean, they're kind of pros of this.

Speaker 10 (44:19):
So everything you're reading from the battlefield, you got to
kind of filter, right, Well, I.

Speaker 19 (44:24):
Agree with that, But if you're winning, you're more likely
to tell the truth. So I think that actually the
Russian Defense Ministry has a very good track record. They
put out a few propaganda pieces, but when you compare
what they say to what actually happens, sometimes you don't
learn two weeks or even months later. Their track record
is pretty good. Ukraine just you know, I don't know
what to say. They just lie about everything.

Speaker 8 (44:44):
But Lensky's lighting up the Jim Zelensky's lighting up the
President United States today saying I don't even talk out
of Washington.

Speaker 10 (44:54):
I need action. How do you interpret.

Speaker 19 (44:56):
That he's It's not just because Ukraine's losing the war.
That would be want the reason to be desperate, But
he personally is kind of a pawn for the neo
Nazi element, the ASA Brigades and you know the Bandera descendants, etc.
He's under their thumb. Now he's the president, actually is

(45:17):
not the president. He's a dictator because his presidential term
expired in May of twenty twenty four, so he's now
under a year and a half of being a military dictator,
a dictator period, but he's under the thumb of the
of the neo Nazi element. By the way, I had
a discussion with the head of the US Marshall Foundation,

(45:37):
it's basically a pro German US organization. I asked her
about this and she said, yeah, they're Nazis. She kind
of said, we keep our distance, but I got an
acknowledgment from an expert, Yeah, they are in fact neo Nazis.
So I guess he has his houses in Dubai and
maybe Miami. All said he's got money abroad, he's good to.

Speaker 12 (45:58):
Go, But do we know that that or going to
protect himself. Do we know that?

Speaker 10 (46:05):
How do you ascertain?

Speaker 8 (46:06):
How do you back that up as a fact that
he's got these houses we keep here, he's got houses
in Egypt, he skimmed so much off the top of
the oligarks.

Speaker 10 (46:13):
How do we actually know that for a fact?

Speaker 19 (46:16):
I allow on sources who have very good track records,
So yeah, it's it's secondhand, but I but I always
test them. I said, Okay, I've been listening to you
for three years and you've been right about almost everything.
And on occasions when you're not right, you admit that.
You say, hey, we got that wrong.

Speaker 8 (46:33):
Uh.

Speaker 19 (46:33):
That gives you a lot of credibility. And I view
I was teaching a class. There was a lady from
the State Department, fairly senior who was in my class,
and I went through some of this and she came
up to me doing the coffee break and said, could
you give me your sources? And I said sure, and
I did. But I thought it was odd that she
has the highest possible security clearances and she's asking me

(46:55):
for you know, basically, where to open sources, you have
to know where to look. So yeah, I do rely
on on sourcing, but I also judge them by their
track record, and it's very good.

Speaker 8 (47:05):
Jim, Can you stick around for a little while when
we need to lose you now at the top of
the hour, can you stick around to the in the
second hour?

Speaker 10 (47:12):
Sure for okay? Perfect Jim Rickards.

Speaker 8 (47:16):
John Solomon's also going to join this amazing breaking story
from John Solomon that will make your head blow up.

Speaker 10 (47:22):
That's what we got John here at the top of
the hour.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
Also, Brian Glenn, our man in the White House, is
going to be on the road today with President Trump
as he goes to Fort Bragg.

Speaker 10 (47:31):
Yes it's Fort Bragg, not Fort.

Speaker 8 (47:32):
Liberty or whatever they named it in the illegitimate Biden regime.

Speaker 10 (47:35):
Fort Bragg.

Speaker 8 (47:37):
Brian Glenn will be there as President Trump goes down
to visit the eighty second Airborne.

Speaker 10 (47:44):
Today another show of force. Home tit lock.

Speaker 8 (47:52):
Eighty percent or nine percent of your net worth and in
a time of financial turbulence, it may be time to
make sure that you actually own it. Nobody's slipped in,
no AI, no cyber, no rogue lawyer or accountant, or
maybe even you know a family member that's got their
own ideas about what you own and what they own
Your title is one piece of paper to make sure

(48:12):
you own your home. One million dollar triple Locke protection.

Speaker 10 (48:15):
What does it mean?

Speaker 8 (48:16):
Number one twenty four to seven coverage Number two, anything
happens even.

Speaker 10 (48:21):
The middle of night, Boom, you get an alert.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
Number three one million dollar restoration program. Talk to Natalie
Domingus in the team. That program is to make sure
you get your title back, that little piece of paper
that says that you own the real asset that you
call your home or whatever property you own home title
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Speaker 10 (48:44):
We keep it simple. They do the work. Go check
it out.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
If they talk to Natalie Dimingus and the team, the
right stuff takes is out one hundred and twenty seconds.
John Solomon, Jim Rickards in the war room.