June 23, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JUNE 23RD, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Common wisdom about this president, about the political movement that
he leads, is that he is supposedly isolationists, that he
is supposedly anti war. That has never been exactly right.
That's always been kind of a lazy common wisdom. In
less than six months back in office, he has threatened
military action against Panama, against Canada, against Denmark in order
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to seize Greenland. He has bombed Yemen over and over
and over again. And now he appears to have entered
the United States military into a war in Iran, something
that neo conservatives have thrilled to for I guess two
generations now. A lot of commentary around the Trump phenomenon
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and Trump's politics would suggest that he has risen in
opposition to the neo conservatives who have advocated for this
type of war since essentially the Iranian revl in nineteen
seventy nine. But since nineteen seventy nine, the US military
has not engaged directly with Iran, but Donald Trump has
done so. Tonight, Donald Trump has ordered US military bombing
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raids on Iran. We are now in war with Iran.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I actually got emotional over this attack because we finally
have some sign of retribution for them killing us for
so many years, and we just kept taking it on
the chin.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
No doubt that because of the President's decisive action, we
have severely damaged Iran's critical nuclear infrastructure. I think we
have to be prepared for Iran to retaliate. And I
joined the President in his warning to the Supreme Leader
of Iran that if he targets Americans with military force,
who will see will make last night look like child's play.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
There's no question Iran was working towards having a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
That is without question. Everyone knows that that look of
the data on this.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
The question is will they be allowed to be able
to actually finish their work to be able to do that.
President Trump said, no, you cannot do that for the
security of the entire world and of American citizens.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Living in that region.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
I don't know how anybody could have been surprised at this.
I think President Trump certainly telegraphed it. He said he's
going to make his decision a couple of weeks. I
certainly understand why President Trump would not share an information
with the Democrats in Congress.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
And again, the.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Operation Security is just so crucial to protect our servicemen
and women I didn't need to notice. I've been saying
for over a week it'll be the president's decision. I
will support that decision.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
You can see this is the before satellite image of
the Florida nuclear plant, and then after you can see
these craters. Three craters here and here. Presumably those are
the impacts of the US bunker busting bombs. Now the
key is to assess how much DAMAD was actually done underground.
That's ongoing and as that happens, incredible amount of awareness
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now on the possibility of the Iranian counter attack finish it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, well, just think there were such a better place
as a result of the attack than what we were
before it. And I think when you look at this,
is this going to end at a negotiating table or
is this going to end on a battlefield?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
And I ran, they've.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Got to go through a couple of things. One, I
think the status of the damage and a nuclear enterprise
is a factor.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
In their decision making in my view.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Also, they're on their own time schedule, and Nick, we're
kind of getting into the crouch and getting ready for
an attack, but they may take their time. This is
their time schedule.
Speaker 9 (03:41):
Meeting has now begun between Vladimir Putin and Abbas Arakchi.
Cameras were allowed in at the start of the talks.
We saw and heard the pair exchange comments between translators.
Vladimir Putin called the aggression against Iran groundless. He said
that their meeting will give them the chance to find
ways out of the current situation. And he added, most importantly,
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perhaps that Russia was ready to help the Iranian people.
But the question everyone wants to know the answer to
is what kind of help will that constitute from Russia.
If Tehran is seeking military help from Moscow, I think
are actually going to be leaving here empty handed, leaving
here disappointed. And I say that for a number of reasons. Firstly,
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assuming things stay as they are, by the way. Firstly,
although the countries have this strategic partnership deal that they
signed in January that sought to deepen their military cooperation,
there's no mutual defense clause contained within it, so there's
no legal obligation for Moscow to step in and provide
military aid to Tehran. And the second reason is that
all of Russia's attention and resources right now are focused
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on Ukraine, and so I think they're reluctant to be
dragged into another conflict, and I think they might be
hard pressed too as well. And the third reason is
that this comes at a time when Moscow is trying
to get closer to Washington and improve relations there. If
they back Iran militarily now, then I think, of course
that will derail that kind of warming relationship there. So
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I don't think we're going to see at this stage
any material support from Moscow for Tehran. At the same time, though,
Moscow is very wary of things progressing towards regime change
in Iran. They lost an important strategic ally in Syria
when the Basha Alasad regime fell there in December, and
they don't want the same thing happening right now. So
for now, I think Moscow is going to be pursuing
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and working very hard to achieve a diplomatic resolution there
uniquely placed to do that.
Speaker 10 (05:37):
They've got these.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
Strong ties with Iran, they've got warm relations historically with Israel,
and there's this budding personal relationship between Vladimir Putin and
Donald Trump. So I think the Kremlin's going to be
trying to talk everyone down, and at this meeting today
with the Iranian Foreign minister. I think Putin clearly knows
that Iran has to respond, but I think he's going
to be trying to persuade them to limit that response
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to a symbolic one, hoping that then they can draw
a line underneath this. And if he can do that,
then he will be preserving Russia's interests in the region,
but also potentially gaining some leverage with Donald Trump that
he could then in turn use when it comes to
Ukraine and US military support for ki If. It's a
big if, and there's a lot, a lot of things
playing into it, but Russia has a lot of stake
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in how this progresses, and there's a lot that remains unpredictable.
Speaker 10 (06:28):
Talk to me Rick Stengel about where Prime Mister Natanyahu
factors into this debate.
Speaker 11 (06:35):
Well, he's the big winner in all of this, and
he seems to be conducting American foreign policy, masterminding American intelligence.
He had tried the last three presidents, including the first
Trump administration, to persuade those American presidents, that Iran was
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imminently about to have a nuclear weapon and the US
needed to help Israel obliterate it. He finally persuaded Donald
Trump in his second term. He's a very persuasive fellow.
He sees this ideologically. You know, one of the problems
of having an American president who sees foreign policy in
terms of the personality of foreign leaders is that makes
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him more receptive to the argument of those foreign leaders.
Remember early in his first term he said he trusted
Vladimir Putin's description of our intelligence more than.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Our own intelligence services.
Speaker 11 (07:34):
So, you know, BB is really guiding a lot of
what's happening here, and we should be talking about how
what he sees as the next step, because that's going
to help focus what the American electorate is going to see.
Speaker 12 (07:50):
Meanwhile, President Trump is floating the idea of a regime
change in Iran. In a truth social post yesterday, the
president wrote, quote, it's the current Iranian regime unable to
make Iran great again? Why wouldn't there.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Be a regime change? This is the.
Speaker 12 (08:05):
First time Trump's raised the possibility of changing the leadership
in Iran since Israel launched that war eleven days ago.
The President's comments also break from the restance of the
rest of his administration that they've been taking, as they've
been saying the intention of Saturday strike was not to
push for regime change, but to prevent Iran from obtaining
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nuclear weapons.
Speaker 13 (08:28):
Times the military has to be used, if it's used
by a smart commander in chief, if it's used wisely,
if it's used for a specific purpose, it gives us peace.
So I want the soap called I don't know what
to call them. People are running around warmonger. The slogan ears,
this should be an education for you too. There should
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be an education for you too, America. Don't you feel relief?
Of course you feel relief because this is These are
Islamo Nazis. We're building nuclear weapons to attack us too,
with intercontinenta bailistic missiles. Guess what, you can go to
bed peacefully tonight. No, that's not gonna happen. That's not
gonna happen. Not because of Obama, not because of Biden,
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not because of the Democrats, not because of some Republican,
because of Donald Trump.
Speaker 14 (09:18):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 15 (09:23):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 14 (09:28):
You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a bedelli full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
going to happen.
Speaker 10 (09:39):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Mega Media?
Speaker 15 (09:44):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 13 (09:53):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Will be saved.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
War Room.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 15 (10:02):
Bath Monday, twenty three June, in the Year of the Lord,
twenty twenty five in a sweltering Imperial capital. Don't you
feel didn't you go to bed Saturday night feeling better?
Speaker 14 (10:19):
Haven't you felt better all weekend?
Speaker 15 (10:22):
Mark Levin the propaganda department over there, the hectoring of
Fox because now the Syaps move into a they're moving
to a different location. We're getting that just a moment,
didn't you go? Didn't you feel better? Don't you feel better?
The engine room. Also in going through the cold Open,
I want to thank my team, just amazing cold open.
Speaker 14 (10:44):
Did you get enough neo.
Speaker 15 (10:44):
Cons there because we can load it up a lot
more folks, just for proportionality. Every dollar we spend focus
on this, every second we spoke, spend focus of this.
Speaker 14 (10:54):
We're not focused on the main thing.
Speaker 15 (10:56):
Although the Mullahs are an ally of I said for
all five years of the show, they provide the oil
for them.
Speaker 14 (11:02):
Dave Walsh is going to join us for that.
Speaker 15 (11:04):
Sam Fattis is going to join us for intel. His thoughts.
Jack psovieks here, we're gonna take this hour. In the
second hour, we're gonna get off the Iran war because
part of this siop is to get us not to
focus on what's important for this country, for America first,
and we're gonna do that, and we're gonna do that
every day. We're gona spend time on the war as
we have to, right and we should. But we're not
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gonna get totally consumed by this, because they get totally
consumed by this is to fall into their trap to
not focus on what's important in this country.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (11:38):
The engine room informs me though for proportionality, Mark Levin
and all General Keen love General Keen, great guy, Jack Keane.
Although General Kean is kind of morphing into the General
in in Doctor Strangelove a little bit. This is either
going to be ended now or ended in a battlefield.
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They're just there's hat to go. What's happening now is
that I think we lost a big part of initiative
yesterday morning, and I was very disappointed. And I love
Pete Heggs that this audience does. As you know, we
went fixedpan xx to get Pete as do od uh
and Raisin Kine a good man and has President Trump's confidence.
Speaker 14 (12:17):
But number one, we should have gone to the initiative.
Speaker 15 (12:20):
I needed, we needed to see some grainy photographs like
schwartzkof put up and they were out there because a
couple hours later, an hour later MSNBC, CNN, we're putting
up and driving the initiative of exactly what happened. I
understand Dood that you don't have the battle damage assessment
that's going to take three or four weeks, as you said,
but there's enough there to kind of take and start
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to drive the narrative.
Speaker 14 (12:44):
We lost that opportunity.
Speaker 15 (12:46):
I've been all weekend saying somebody the Pentagon's got stand
up in front of a podium that says Pentagon in
front of it and actually give us a first cut.
Speaker 14 (12:54):
Photographs are all over.
Speaker 15 (12:55):
We need we need an initial, preliminary, subject to chain
draft assessment of exactly what was accomplished.
Speaker 14 (13:03):
President Trump is so proud of this as he should.
Speaker 15 (13:06):
The precision, logistics, bravery valor, boldness of the attack itself unquestioned, right,
But exactly what was accomplished? Number two, because you see
now it's all about, Hey, we don't know where the
material is. You see the New York Times, the Financial
Times of London, the drum beat on Fox is that.
Speaker 14 (13:23):
What's that going to lead us too? Folks?
Speaker 15 (13:26):
Hey, do we need the seventy fifth Ranger Britaining to
go in and find it?
Speaker 14 (13:31):
Oh, it's coming, It's coming.
Speaker 15 (13:33):
And of course you saw the regime change narrative over
the weekend, right, they're gonna drive that.
Speaker 14 (13:38):
You saw the chavarint Son. I don't know a guy that's.
Speaker 15 (13:40):
Been partying in New York for forty years, fifty years.
They're now at the podium saying they're calling all remember Challiby.
This is Challiby two point Oh remember Challibe. We've got
Challiby two point zero and all that stuff's fine as
long as we're not part of it. You got to
come out of the battle damage assessment. If we got
enough of it done, hey, then it's to the Israelis.
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Because I think the tell here, and I think very upsetting,
is why did the United States have to take on
the other two facilities? Were never mentioned in the ROSARS
Fouridah can't get to Florida need bunker busting bombs to
get to Fido. Why is the US Navy in the
North Arabian Sea firing thirty Tomahawks.
Speaker 14 (14:23):
At one of the facilities?
Speaker 15 (14:25):
So why was I not taken out by the air
supremacy of the Israeli Air Force?
Speaker 14 (14:30):
Was the entire thing for the nukes?
Speaker 15 (14:33):
Just cosplay? Is this because the ultimate goal is regime change?
If that's fine, Israelis have at it. Like we said,
finish what you started. If you want regime change, go
for it, baby. Just no participation by the United States government.
Speaker 14 (14:52):
Short break, fattest wash pasobic, next America.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 15 (15:02):
Bab As the engine room atforms made it's a million
deaths by fentanyl. Have a million death by fentanyl fifty
thousand a year? Oh and we got ten thousand. By
the way, every American serviceman, including the Marines in Beirut,
who should have been the vengeance and them should have
come years ago, decades ago. And the money I think
still held up in court, right, I got it. And
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the Iranians are bad guys today right now, the Israelis
bomb and Tehran.
Speaker 14 (15:30):
I think they're having a Bestille day.
Speaker 15 (15:31):
They're the bomb in the prison, the Revolutionary Guard headquarters,
good on you bomb away the tumbat regime change. They
got the Shaw's son, like I said, he had a
press conference. He's challibee too. They're getting all that together
in New York City. A proxy for this is what's
happening in New York City right now with that mayor's race.
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You watch, you're going to have a radical Islamic mayor
on a socialist atop.
Speaker 14 (15:57):
Everything off.
Speaker 15 (15:58):
But that's the least of the issues that's gonna happen, folks.
Speaker 14 (16:02):
Or it's gonna come damn close.
Speaker 15 (16:03):
And of course you got the uh the rig voting
there right, So everything in New York City fought all
you progressives in New York City, hey, gets get ready
to embrace the future, folks. The progressives has brought this
on us. Now you get the Red Green Alliance. But
in the fog of war, this is where I got Fattest,
Walsh and Walsh and oil in the what's happening in
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the oil markets, particularly what's happened to the threat to
shut down the straits or her moves, which, by the way,
and any Crtesian kind of logic is the craziest things
the Iranians can do. But hey, they're taking incoming and
these guys are not exactly rational anyway, They're working, they're
looking for the thirteenth and you know they're they're following Madi, right,
They're looking for Madi. So this is the rationality. But no,
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Mark Levan, I don't think people are sleeping better. First off,
Sam Fattest, the raid itself was magnificent. It showed you
the coordination, the high technology. Nobody on Earth. I'm sure
the Russians and the Chinese Commis party got their number
two princils out and they were writing down a lot
of Oh my god, these brothers can move, and they
can move fast, and they can move hard, and they
can bring they can bring the heat. But I was
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very upset yesterday morning when we least didn't have you know,
give me a Norman Shortz cough, give me at least
a grainy gun caanon photo of exactly what the freaking
you know what happened? They said at the you know
Raisin Kane, who's fantastic and has the presence complete trust,
because Raisin Kane was the guy that actually took isis down.
I don't know in ninety days when they said it
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would take ten years. He started off, Sam, as jack
Is pointed out by saying, hey, I got all the
assets that are involved, including Space Command NRO. As you
know we can pick out a license plate on an
Audie in downtown Tehran. Why do I have no grainy photographs?
At least take the initiative that we're taking the initiative.
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This happened understanding a bomb damage assessment is thirty days away.
Speaker 14 (18:03):
Sam Fadus, Well, first of all, Steve, I agree with you.
Speaker 16 (18:06):
Obviously, all credit to the men and women who pulled
this off. That's never been our issue, right, the competence
of our people. Why didn't they give us an assessment? Honestly,
I don't think they have any idea what we just
blew up at ford ou' Let's keep in mind three
weeks ago, none of this was going on, and we
weren't talking about doing it until the Israelis showed up
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and handed us a bunch of intel that we apparently
did not have. And so now they're driving the train
and they're the ones that tell us Ford ou has
to be blown up.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
And this is what's there on.
Speaker 15 (18:40):
Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down, don't don't
go too fast, Okay, Israeli's because this is the big debate, right,
the Israeli showed up with intelligence we didn't have.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Correct Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 16 (18:54):
I mean, I get it that now people are attempting
to turn this into a debate. I don't see how
it can be a debate. We know what the written
I see assessment was as of the end of March
Telsea Gabbert delivered to Congress, but what she read word
for word was a prepared formal assessment by the entire
intelligence community, said, the Supreme Leader has not changed the
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decision that was made in two thousand and three to
abandon a nuclear weapons program. So were we concerned about it.
We were concerned about where we're allegedly watching it. Yeah,
was there any urgency? No, because our assessment of our
entire intelligence community was there is as of this point,
no Iranian effort to create a nuclear weapon to operationalize it.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Okay, so that's where we were three weeks ago.
Speaker 16 (19:48):
Nobody was talking about bunk or buster bombs attacking Iran
regime change. And then the Israelis showed up with intelligence
that at the point still remains largely unknown and said,
we're on the cusp. They're about to actually have more
than one. I think number has varied from nine to
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twelve operational nuclear weapons. And sometimes they've made it sound
like within days, as you've pointed out before. Sometimes it
sounds a lot longer. But based on this intelligence that
we did not have, apparently still don't have. Apparently, according
to Secretary Rubio, they still haven't shown us. We have
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now gone to the point where we are bombing sites,
bombing Forda. Now, the fact that Forda had a whole
bunch of centrifuges and it has been involved in the
right I just.
Speaker 15 (20:45):
Want to make sure because people are gonna pick this,
people are going to try to pick this apart. Right,
we're a king defender of virtual people of abandons, flip
eight flip folks.
Speaker 14 (20:53):
But let me be brutally frank.
Speaker 15 (20:55):
The United States of America and American citizens make decisions
for the States of America, full stop, and we will
not back off that one inch. If you don't like it,
that's your problem, okay. And we're going to get to
the bottom of this. We're going to get to the
bottom of this. We are going to look at the
bottom of this and we go get all the facts
hang on. But one thing in the interim from Tulsi,
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didn't the International Atomic Energy Think did come out correct
and make an assessment that they were working on fissicle
fissile material to make ten to fifteen bombs.
Speaker 14 (21:29):
Was that correct?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (21:31):
And the IAA has been kind of sounding that alarm
for some time. I mean, look, I think the Israelis
are closer to the mark than we are, but it
doesn't to me. The fundamental point here is we're steering
now making national security decisions at the highest level that
affect the United States, affect American citizens, and we are
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doing it based on intelligence passed to us by a
foreign power. And it appears to me, based on what
Rubio said the other day, that we have not even
been shown this intelligence. Now, as you say, this is
the United States of America. The Israelis are allies, but
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our decisions on behalf of our citizens. We have to
make for ourselves, and we have to make based on
our own own intelligence. So the Israelis are telling us
we got to bonb FORDEU. I question everything about that.
If they're really if the Iranians are really as close
to having a nuclear weapon as the Israeli suggest, then
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the enrichment activity that you would do at FORDEH is over.
I mean, taking it out will prevent them from a
riching more uranium. But they long since have done.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
The work they needed to do at ford OU.
Speaker 16 (22:53):
If they're really within days and the program now would
be being conducted in much smaller locations than the real
issue would not be that they're bunk they're in bunkers
hundreds of feet under the ground. The real issue would
be it could be done almost anywhere in a commercial warehouse.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Finding is the issue?
Speaker 15 (23:13):
What Okay Hangover saying, because this is the I'm gonna
get back to the bomb damaged assessment. And to me,
the tell, the tell on Saturday night is why we
send the Tomahawks to the third facility. I thought it
was all about ford out right Now we got to
send bunker bond busts to the second facility, but the
third facility.
Speaker 14 (23:30):
Which is kind of above ground.
Speaker 15 (23:32):
I thought the Israelis had air supremacy, supremacy.
Speaker 14 (23:35):
I thought they had air superiority.
Speaker 15 (23:37):
I thought they were doing combat sorty after combat story
and since this is their their number one objective is
this the nuclear power, the nuclear you know, weapons program.
Speaker 14 (23:46):
Number two is the ballistic missiles program.
Speaker 15 (23:50):
Netanyahu estually said point blank, We're not going to get
in a war of attrition. When when those are over,
it's over. I'm just quoting him, But Jack Pisobok. We're
getting Sam hangers, jackies. So we're constantly getting the upsell.
You get the sense of the false sense of urgency,
and maybe it's not false, but I'd like to see
that information. At least give us as much D class
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as you can, because Rubio, I think, I'm not sure
they haven't seen some of it, but certainly haven't seen
all of it to make an independent assessment. But we're
getting the sense of urgency, and we're getting an upsell.
The upsales first regime change, right, the second upsell today,
folks is to Sam's point, well, hang on, maybe they
took it. Maybe we got to find the we gotta
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find that since there was no uh, you know, nuclear
fallout or radiation, right, and no seismic activity.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
Right.
Speaker 14 (24:39):
I'm just quoting the experts. Now.
Speaker 15 (24:42):
Now, now, the Financial Times of the New York Times
both come out almost at the same time with the
same story. Oh well, now we've got to go hunt
for the for the for the material self.
Speaker 14 (24:52):
That reads to me, not just Israeli commandos.
Speaker 15 (24:55):
It's get on the phone and call the seventy fifth
Ranger Battalion. Let's get the seventy fifth Ranger Battalion on
the phone, because I think we got to send a
couple of guys in there to find this stuff.
Speaker 14 (25:02):
Am I wrong? We're getting upsold A Jack Pasovic.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
Yeah, stivet was interesting because the Washington Post rode up
our back and forth the other day, our diatribe about
the upsell, but they left out the part about the
upsell being regime change. I know that was very interesting
because we've always been very clear about this that President
Trump has been focused on the nuclear program. But the
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upsell was to try to suck the United States in
to say, well, you know, maybe it's just gonna be
a special operations rate. Maybe it's just gonna be a
little bit. A couple of boots on the ground, not
too many, just a couple of units. Get some get
some caag in there, Delta Force, Sealed Team six, get
the boys out of dev gru get a little black squadron.
Speaker 14 (25:44):
Go down.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
It'll be fine. It'll be totally fine. That was always
the upsell. Now, hold on a second, because President Trump
told me, obliterated completely. That's what my president said. So
if President Trump says this, obliterated completely, and the New
York Times is pushed for all this, and we got
a lot of questions about what actually went down here,
because I'm going to take the word of my president
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who says obliterated completely, So perfect strike, et cetera, et cetera.
What they're trying to push for. And all these guys,
Jack Keane, the Institute for the Study of War, which
has been completely wrong about everything in Ukraine. By the way,
the iw which Jack Keene runs, those are the guys
telling you, oh, it's going to be one fell strike. Now.
Well here we are three years later, and by the way,
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nobody's paying attention. Russia is advancing in Ukraine right now. Well,
no one's looking.
Speaker 15 (26:34):
No in the Chinese Communist Party is advancing in the
South China Sea.
Speaker 14 (26:38):
All these shoals down there and little carriers.
Speaker 15 (26:42):
They're sending, They're sending their fishing boats down there.
Speaker 14 (26:46):
They're really naval craft. Okay, we got Fattus, we got Pasobic,
We've got.
Speaker 15 (26:50):
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Next in the war.
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Speaker 14 (27:05):
Okay, welcome back, Birch Gold.
Speaker 15 (27:07):
You're going to get a little turbulence although and they're
threatened to shut down the streets or moves, which is
obviously for them. Dave wal is gonna be here explain
the logic because it would be absolutely economic suicide for them.
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and I hope everybody did their homework assignment. I know
there was a ton of downloads on the end of
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the global South head to Rio for the real reset,
sam Fats your assessment.
Speaker 14 (27:46):
Are we being upsold?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Here?
Speaker 14 (27:47):
Are we being upsold?
Speaker 15 (27:48):
And by the way, if I've said a million times,
if these Raelers want regime change, go for it. If
they want to go in and send people in to
find the material, go for it. It's their war they
started and they should finish what they started. And hey, look,
I think they've got the valor and the courage and
IDF in the Israeli Air Force, they punch way above
their weight. I think they got these guys maybe on
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the ropes.
Speaker 14 (28:12):
I don't know, Kamini.
Speaker 15 (28:14):
President Trump can't get a meeting for his negotiating time
because the Ayahtola ain't taking calls because the guys that
take calls end up dead.
Speaker 14 (28:23):
Sam fattis your assessment? In the CIA, shouldn't we have her?
Speaker 15 (28:26):
I thought we paid I don't know a trillion dollars
a year for all these seventeen.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
Intelligence agencies.
Speaker 15 (28:33):
We got everything in the world to have an independent
assessment that came from people called Americans that had a
perspective of the United States of America.
Speaker 16 (28:41):
Sir, Look, it is a given in any situation like
this that you're going to have everybody in the world
come out of the woodwork and try to use you
for their intended purposes.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
So, yeah, we got the Crown Prince.
Speaker 16 (28:53):
Now who claims that he's going to ride back into
Tehran on a white horse if we just back him
and restore the monarchy.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
What's the defense against that.
Speaker 16 (29:03):
The defenses against that is that your intelligence services do
their job and you know what the heck is going on,
and you can't be played. So with all respect to
the Israelis, who I've worked with extensively, doesn't change the
fact that they are representing is Israel's interest and our
interest in there do not coincide, and can are we
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in a position they do not coincide all the time,
So again you have to have your own intelligence. We
are now in a position where they are driving the train.
They're telling us things, and you know, maybe they're true,
and maybe they aren't true, and maybe there's a mix
of all of the above, and maybe they're just flat
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out wrong about some things and they believe they're true.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
This is the maze of mirrors.
Speaker 16 (29:53):
So we have to have our own eyes and ears,
and it is manifestly obvious we don't because again three
weeks ago, we didn't like what was going on in Iran,
but there was no screaming emergency. And now we're standing
on the brink of tumbling out of control and this
thing really becoming a major conflict.
Speaker 15 (30:14):
Under one thousand over forty years, and every one of
those lives are precious, right, including the Marines of the
Marine Barracks that even President Reagan says is the single
biggest mistake he may he admitted two mistakes in his presidency,
doing the deal on amnesty where they let it. They
gave him animascy first and never sealed the border, and
then the Marine barracks. And as soon as he got
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him in there and die, he told capern and get
the hell out of there.
Speaker 14 (30:39):
What are we doing? We got enough fight with the Russians.
Speaker 15 (30:41):
We can't be doing this, Jack Bosobic, how's the upsell
going to play out over the next couple of days
and what information do we have to get this audience
to make sure they understand they're being upsold?
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Sir Well, Steve, there's going to be a couple elements
to this. So let's keep in mind that the NATO
conference takes place tomorrow at the Hague and President Trump
is currently scheduled to attend that. We have heard the
leaders of South Korea and Japan, the president new president
and then the Prime Minister have both pulled out, citing
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unforeseen circumstances as well as Middle East instability as the
reason they don't want to go. Zelenski, of course, he's
up there. He's meeting with Prince excuse me, King Charles
right now at the UK and he's completely backed all
of the action in Iran. He's calling for potentially for
regime change as well. He wants the US to get
in there big, because here's what the big play is. Now,
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what else do you have going on in Europe right now?
The Foreign Minister of Iran, where's he? He's in Moscow.
He's sitting down at the Kremlin right now as we
speak with Vladimir Putin. The video is coming out and
they're saying we're going to deal with this jointly. And
the US has conducted a legal activity, et cetera, et cetera.
So what they're trying to do, Steve, is they want
to put the Iran fight together. Is what the EU wants.
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The European leaders, they want to put Iran and Russia
in the same bucket to get Trump to say, well,
wait a minute, you got to fight Russia too through Ukraine.
Couple three bombing runs maybe over there on Russian troops
in eastern Ukraine. So now you've got excuse me on
on Russian troops. Yeah, Russian troops in eastern Ukraine.
Speaker 15 (32:20):
But the Russians hang hanging with the Rustic But the
Russians didn't. The Russians didn't back in the Chinese. Nobody's
come through it and said hey, militarily, we're going to
come in and back off the Israelis. I don't think
the Russians call for the Israelis what Putin said, didn't
he say? Hey, he says, I got to play I
got to play it kind of safe here, Israel, folks,
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take your number two parents of line.
Speaker 14 (32:42):
Write this one down.
Speaker 15 (32:44):
Besides the ted Krusia known, there's roughly one hundred and
ninety some million or one hundred million in in Persia.
There're two million Russian Russian speaking Jewish people in.
Speaker 14 (32:54):
Uh In of the nine man in Israel.
Speaker 15 (32:58):
So he just can't pick a I'm sure some of
the people taking incoming and they're taking brutal incoming yesterday
are Russian citizens. So in taking our eye off the
ball of the larger war. And yes, Fox News, we
are in the Third World War. We just don't want
another battle front right now because we got one here
in the United States that we're not focused on enough.
Speaker 14 (33:20):
We got another in the South China. See that they're
running the tables on US.
Speaker 15 (33:23):
I should duly note South Korea canceled going to NATO
this morning.
Speaker 14 (33:29):
Did Japan did also?
Speaker 15 (33:30):
But South Korea, which is totally controlled by the Chinese
Commerce Party, that political party.
Speaker 14 (33:34):
Announced they're not going to NATO.
Speaker 15 (33:36):
They got other things they got to focus on, right,
and Japan announced they weren't going either. I'd actually be
surprised if the President actually attended. I'm not so sure
given the threats, given the hot talk coming out of Tehran,
the big talk Jack that I would send the president
over to NATO right now if you need to talk
to that first of those guys all boring. He was
in Calgary, got bored, came back, right. So how do
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we prevent the upsel from getting drawing US in more?
The issue before US is we did what President Trump
said he would do, is take down the nuclear program
he says, it's obliterated the Pentagon. I'm sure it's going
to come out to day or tomorrow and reinforce that
this thing is knocked down because our military and their
valor and their boldness knocked it down.
Speaker 14 (34:21):
It's our mission's finished, is it not? Jack?
Speaker 15 (34:24):
I mean the up the regime change is if the
peacock throne guy that's been hanging out in cocktail parties
in New York City and the Hamptons for fifty years
hasn't a lifting a finger to help free his people.
If that brother is ready to roll, then hey he's
chatiba two point out do it? Hey that sounds great,
That sounds like an idea. If the M e K
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want to team up with him, and all these other
revolutionary groups are outside groups, go with them. But we
should have nothing to do with that. Am I incorrect?
Speaker 14 (34:53):
Jack?
Speaker 10 (34:53):
Pisobc Well, Steve, not only that, another watchword to look
for is moderates. You're gonna hear this. This is going
to be rolled out very soon. They're gonna say, well,
there's there's moderate elements that perhaps we can try to
reach out to. And if we can get to the
moderate elements, perhaps they'll depose the I R g C.
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They'll depose the leader, and the moderates will rise up
and steve. This was the same exact failed logic that
led to what the third biggest scandal of the Reagan administration,
Iran Contra. Remember this, Robert McFarland. We're going to go
to the moderates, the moderate they're gonna work with us.
We're gonna come together. Everybody seems to have forgotten this.
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We tried this, We have tried all the trying try again,
and they tried to and they tried to impeach President Reagan.
Speaker 14 (35:43):
Remember they went on there.
Speaker 15 (35:44):
I think they indicted Sam Finn's Sam had poor cap
became a felon. I think they had They had to
pardoning later totally that one slipped the partnering, Hey, Sam
faddus the hunt for the material, this is a this
is a big deal, right because your point, it could
be anywhere. Who does the CIA normally in the military
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turn to. I threw had seventy fifth Ranger Battalion.
Speaker 14 (36:10):
But who would they go to?
Speaker 15 (36:12):
Because when they talk about we got to find the material?
Speaker 14 (36:16):
Am I missing it? They're talking about boots on the ground, sir.
Speaker 16 (36:20):
Well, if that's what they're talking about. We're totally screwed, Steve.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
I mean, how should it work. It should work that
you should have put up.
Speaker 15 (36:28):
Put up, Denver put Denver, put up, put up Financial
Times in New York Times, the two biggest stories in
those papers a day, which are the two dominant news
sources in the world.
Speaker 14 (36:37):
Is your point?
Speaker 15 (36:38):
At the very beginning, they think that they think the
Iranians pulled the stuff out beforehand, because this thing was
kind of telegraphed by the Israelis for a couple of
weeks and pulled it out or pulled it out over
time thinking it was a target. And so let's assume
for purposes discussion the Times and the Financial Times are right.
Speaker 14 (36:55):
What happens to go find it?
Speaker 16 (36:58):
Yeah, well, I think we know that there were trucks
running in and out of ford Ou over the course
of days. There's a question there why we didn't just
bomb those of the Israelis didn't bomb those, So we
know a whole bunch of stuff left for ford Ow.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
That's fact. How should you hunt it?
Speaker 16 (37:13):
You should hunt it with clandestine assets, which is what
the CIA is supposed to have inside Iran, which is
what we did in Iraq when the bombing campaign started
and they all displaced to unmarked locations, we followed them
with teams on the ground and gave us GPS chords
and put jadams through the roof. We apparently don't have
any human sources in Iran that are worth anything. So yeah,
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now are you talking about putting actual you know, whether
it's the range, whether it's the Ranger Regiment, or whether
it's other Tier one units. You're talking about putting uniformed American.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Personnel on the ground.
Speaker 16 (37:49):
I mean, come on, we know, Jack, I've worked with
those guys, are great, But you know how that ends
that you do not see undetected.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
It ends badly.
Speaker 14 (37:58):
Jack sam Fatta said, the magic word tier one. What
do you know? Oh my god, what will we get? Folks?
This is the way you get sucked in. Give me
what's Tier one?
Speaker 10 (38:08):
Yeah, WMD's and WMD material doctrine is that that's going
to be your Tier one elements. My bias is always Navy,
so you know, and and it but it's you know,
it's always kind of a jump ball there. But you know,
looking at a situation like that, with the Navy element,
you could have dev grew go in. But since you're
talking about WMD material and potentially bomb making material, because
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again the intelligence I haven't seen it, I haven't you know,
touched any of this. But there's been a lot of
questions about triggers. There's been a lot of questions about
delivery systems. So you're going to need a Tier one element,
so either dev grew or or Delta force, but you're
going to need an EO duh. You're gonna need the
EOD element attached to that so that they can deal
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with whatever situation they find on the ground there if
they are actually going in and need to render something
safe or confiscate or et cetera, et cetera, whatever you're
talking about. Because again, if this is phizzle material, you're
talking Tier one operators minimum minimum. If you're going to
be sending US boots on the ground, and yes, to
Sam's point of course, you're going to need to locate
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this first through intelligence and that also includes human intelligence. Look, uh,
you know you've got to payoff guys on the ground.
You got to need people there. Presumably Massage has had
all of these elements sites.
Speaker 15 (39:25):
Defin you're talking about Seal sealt U saying Seal Teams
e O D Seal Team six with with E O D.
E O D the Frogmen from D O D the
bomb squad that was so brave in Iraq. So youve
got EOD elements alright, D yeah, yeah, let's not getting
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that Army Navy fight. Hang on, you two guys, hang on,
I've got Dave Walsh. You're gonna Takotle oil. We got
the We got our two Intel guys, Jack psobic In.
I really appreciate Sam taking the time away day to
join us. He's a safe pair of hands and wrote
one of the best books ever about the Central Intelligence Agency.
We can get that up in the next break. Two
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things Number one Birch Gold in times of turbulence. Why
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This is why if you go back when we first
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Price of Gold then and the price of gold now,
we were there to teach you how to think about it.
That's what Birch Gold wants to do. So make sure
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get the seventh free installment about the Bricks Nations and
what they're planning on doing. And I think they're planning
on doing a lot. The Chinese Communist Party. Keep the
main thing, the main thing, And I understand that this
is a front against the CCP, but we got to
rank order those fronts. Number one here the fentanyl killing
over a million Americans, not under a thousand.
Speaker 14 (40:51):
Let's prioritize Fox News. Oh that's right.
Speaker 15 (40:53):
You can't because Murdoch in his relationship with the Chinese.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Communist Part huge Stephen k ban.
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Speaker 14 (41:34):
You get a special deal on that. And he throws in.
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those are coming into the next hour. Also Harmet Dylan,
we're trying to get her over the Justice Department as
we're gonna sit there and say, we're just not going
to get sucked in and focus on all this.
Speaker 14 (41:57):
Jack, give me.
Speaker 15 (41:59):
A minute on what you need to see from Pete
and the guys Gorilla the gorilla from Sencom and raising
Kine today. What types of elements would you like to
see to make sure we get a great picture here
as we say we stand relieved right with these frailis
relieve the watch. We want to have a complete turnover.
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What do you want to show them?
Speaker 10 (42:23):
Well, see, when it comes down to this, you know,
as as a prior intelligence officer and someone who's looked
at these types of situations before, when you're conducting battle
damage assessment and some of the things you're going to
look at they're not just going to be these commercial
imagery photos that we're seeing from Maxar and others. The
United States intelligence community, of course, So when has has
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every eye in the sky, and on a strike like this,
you would have every single intelligence satellite spy satellite focused
directly on every facility that was being hit, particularly FOURDOH
because of its extreme distance, extreme depth beneath the surface
of that mouth. And so we've got all sorts of
capabilities up there to see into this from an intelligence perspective,
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and and if if the President wanted to, he could
declassify this or other elements could be declassified as well.
So we're not just looking at basic satellite imagery of
say those sites and those tunnels. By the way, we've
got we've got if you're want to look inside a tunnel,
we've got satellites. They can shoot on an angle and
they can get right into that tunnel. So those trucks
looking up to this, you would have had satellites that
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were tracking every single truck, what was being done, what
was being put onto them. Plus you've got synthetic aperture radar,
you've got things that can look deep inside these mountains.
We've got all sorts of ability to look into this
to measure what's going on, and the red we've got
the rest to really track.
Speaker 15 (43:46):
This down if they wanted to drones all over the place. Yeah,
they got drones all over the place. They've been doing
drone war and winning into run hanger for a second.
Dave Walsh, give me, make me smart. The Presidence sends
out a tweet today going wild. Then he says, drill, baby, drill.
What is the president's issue today with oil? The straits
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of horror moves in the Persians?
Speaker 17 (44:10):
Sir, well, he's worried about the hor must rates being
blocked for a while. Prices, by the way, seemed to
be done point six percent so far today, seventy two
bucks ballpark. But with that said, he's doing the job
owning thing the President tries to do. Try to get
excellon mobile Chevron Occidental Marathon Jesspeake to do something they
(44:31):
have never done before for fifty five years in this country,
never done before, and that is, guess what, Let's not
match opek and world oil prices. That's not going to happen.
They're going to match world oil prices. In part one
reason we have never taken onopak. We have decided to
slow down, called it slow down, slow down.
Speaker 15 (44:52):
What did you just say I want to audience understand
it because I don't walk me through that again.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
No, he's going to jaw.
Speaker 17 (44:58):
He's attempting to job bone through social media the major
oil producers in this country to please don't go along
with world oil prices that okay, Deutsche Bank is forecasting
you're going to go from a range of eighty five
to one hundred and twenty bucks, possibly for the time
period that the straits of hormones may be blocked. We
buy precious little oil that comes from that source. Only
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like seven percent of our imports, which are almost nil
to begin with, come from there. What he's concerned with
is global pricing going to eighty five one hundred and
twenty bucks, from which we benefit massively, by the way,
is our major export commodity. But in consumers here will
be punished if that happens, because these companies will raise
prices to match what happens globally and the demand they
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get globally to displace the twenty million barrels a day
that comes from the sections of the Middle East that
are furnished through the hormone straits. So he's job owning
our domestic industry to try to hold prices in line.
Don't go along with the bad guys.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Not going to work.
Speaker 17 (46:00):
They're going to as they always have. They'll track prices
with Opek and the rest of the world to wherever
the global markets go. And right now the assessment of
Deutsche Bag, for example, is we might be headed to
eighty five low to one hundred and twenty high based
on this hormone straits impact for as long as it
may last. But it is to Rubo's.
Speaker 14 (46:21):
Poy, But hang on, hang on twenty twenty.
Speaker 15 (46:27):
Eighty percent of the cash flow comes from what they
sell the Chinese, and we see Malaysia and all this stuff.
Just those are off fronts for the Persians. Sell on
it to the Chinese. The Chinese Persians is on a
main and a half to two and a half maybe
three million barrels a day. Why why would you being
a sailor that's happened to sail a combatant into the
streets or herr moves? Why would the Iranians want to
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close it? If you close it, aren't they cutting? Aren't
they slitting their own throat? This is the logic. I
don't get what's the what's the strategic logic here? For
why they would even do it.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 17 (46:58):
It does appear on the surface to be suicidal as
a move for them, because that you're talking about the
two million barrels a day going to China all flow
that way from them, one hundred million dollars a day
of revenue for them. They're desperate, they're isolated, they're cut off,
They're they're basically looking for a sympathy play through this
process of attempting to congeal China, support Korea, support your.
Speaker 15 (47:24):
Specialist, and they would cut off Europe.
Speaker 14 (47:27):
Europe. Europe would be done if you cut off straight
to her moves. Europe gets no oil.
Speaker 17 (47:31):
Right large supply to Europe, way more than here, Yes, substantial, substantial.
But they want to try to conjail Guitar and the
Kingdom with them also because they're they're bad.
Speaker 15 (47:41):
The guys that king got it, Kingdom U a e
catar Okay, I got it. But I'm gonna spend I'm
gonna need some more time with you post, so you
gotta go. Sam Fetis, I'm a I'm gonna ask you
to stick posts of social media the show. You're up
here at two o'clock. Your social media is on fire.
Taking incoming sometimes but giving as good as you get.
Where do you go post.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
So for you, Well, people are more than happy to
step right up to come get me at social media.
If you want to follow me, just go go watch
to NBC, Washington Post, John Stewart, The Daily Show. They're
all coming after post. So and I'm more than happy
to take it on because as a Philly guide, that's
what we do. So, yeah, we're gonna be up. We
We've got the great Matt Boyle from breitbartar. We're gonna
(48:24):
be talking all things political because there's a domestic agenda
here as well, Hue deportations, the big beautiful Bill, all
the rest of it. You know, we've got some borders
that we are to worry about here at home too.
Speaker 15 (48:36):
By the way, Massy Portation is the leading front post.
So where do people go to your social media real They.
Speaker 10 (48:42):
Go at Jack Pasobic, truthcat or social or telegram.
Speaker 15 (48:47):
Also, this race in New York City, you're about to
have a radical jihadis Muslim as your mayor a proxy
for this war next in the world,
Common wisdom about this president, about the political movement that
he leads, is that he is supposedly isolationists, that he
is supposedly anti war. That has never been exactly right.
That's always been kind of a lazy common wisdom. In
less than six months back in office, he has threatened
military action against Panama, against Canada, against Denmark in order
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to seize Greenland. He has bombed Yemen over and over
and over again. And now he appears to have entered
the United States military into a war in Iran, something
that neo conservatives have thrilled to for I guess two
generations now. A lot of commentary around the Trump phenomenon
(00:49):
and Trump's politics would suggest that he has risen in
opposition to the neo conservatives who have advocated for this
type of war since essentially the Iranian revl in nineteen
seventy nine. But since nineteen seventy nine, the US military
has not engaged directly with Iran, but Donald Trump has
done so. Tonight, Donald Trump has ordered US military bombing
(01:11):
raids on Iran. We are now in war with Iran.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I actually got emotional over this attack because we finally
have some sign of retribution for them killing us for
so many years, and we just kept taking it on
the chin.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
No doubt that because of the President's decisive action, we
have severely damaged Iran's critical nuclear infrastructure. I think we
have to be prepared for Iran to retaliate. And I
joined the President in his warning to the Supreme Leader
of Iran that if he targets Americans with military force,
who will see will make last night look like child's play.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
There's no question Iran was working towards having a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
That is without question. Everyone knows that that look of
the data on this.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
The question is will they be allowed to be able
to actually finish their work to be able to do that.
President Trump said, no, you cannot do that for the
security of the entire world and of American citizens.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Living in that region.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
I don't know how anybody could have been surprised at this.
I think President Trump certainly telegraphed it. He said he's
going to make his decision a couple of weeks. I
certainly understand why President Trump would not share an information
with the Democrats in Congress.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
And again, the.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Operation Security is just so crucial to protect our servicemen
and women I didn't need to notice. I've been saying
for over a week it'll be the president's decision. I
will support that decision.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
You can see this is the before satellite image of
the Florida nuclear plant, and then after you can see
these craters. Three craters here and here. Presumably those are
the impacts of the US bunker busting bombs. Now the
key is to assess how much DAMAD was actually done underground.
That's ongoing and as that happens, incredible amount of awareness
(03:01):
now on the possibility of the Iranian counter attack finish it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, well, just think there were such a better place
as a result of the attack than what we were
before it. And I think when you look at this,
is this going to end at a negotiating table or
is this going to end on a battlefield?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
And I ran, they've.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Got to go through a couple of things. One, I
think the status of the damage and a nuclear enterprise
is a factor.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
In their decision making in my view.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Also, they're on their own time schedule, and Nick, we're
kind of getting into the crouch and getting ready for
an attack, but they may take their time. This is
their time schedule.
Speaker 9 (03:41):
Meeting has now begun between Vladimir Putin and Abbas Arakchi.
Cameras were allowed in at the start of the talks.
We saw and heard the pair exchange comments between translators.
Vladimir Putin called the aggression against Iran groundless. He said
that their meeting will give them the chance to find
ways out of the current situation. And he added, most importantly,
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perhaps that Russia was ready to help the Iranian people.
But the question everyone wants to know the answer to
is what kind of help will that constitute from Russia.
If Tehran is seeking military help from Moscow, I think
are actually going to be leaving here empty handed, leaving
here disappointed. And I say that for a number of reasons. Firstly,
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assuming things stay as they are, by the way. Firstly,
although the countries have this strategic partnership deal that they
signed in January that sought to deepen their military cooperation,
there's no mutual defense clause contained within it, so there's
no legal obligation for Moscow to step in and provide
military aid to Tehran. And the second reason is that
all of Russia's attention and resources right now are focused
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on Ukraine, and so I think they're reluctant to be
dragged into another conflict, and I think they might be
hard pressed too as well. And the third reason is
that this comes at a time when Moscow is trying
to get closer to Washington and improve relations there. If
they back Iran militarily now, then I think, of course
that will derail that kind of warming relationship there. So
(05:09):
I don't think we're going to see at this stage
any material support from Moscow for Tehran. At the same time, though,
Moscow is very wary of things progressing towards regime change
in Iran. They lost an important strategic ally in Syria
when the Basha Alasad regime fell there in December, and
they don't want the same thing happening right now. So
for now, I think Moscow is going to be pursuing
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and working very hard to achieve a diplomatic resolution there
uniquely placed to do that.
Speaker 10 (05:37):
They've got these.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
Strong ties with Iran, they've got warm relations historically with Israel,
and there's this budding personal relationship between Vladimir Putin and
Donald Trump. So I think the Kremlin's going to be
trying to talk everyone down, and at this meeting today
with the Iranian Foreign minister. I think Putin clearly knows
that Iran has to respond, but I think he's going
to be trying to persuade them to limit that response
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to a symbolic one, hoping that then they can draw
a line underneath this. And if he can do that,
then he will be preserving Russia's interests in the region,
but also potentially gaining some leverage with Donald Trump that
he could then in turn use when it comes to
Ukraine and US military support for ki If. It's a
big if, and there's a lot, a lot of things
playing into it, but Russia has a lot of stake
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in how this progresses, and there's a lot that remains unpredictable.
Speaker 10 (06:28):
Talk to me Rick Stengel about where Prime Mister Natanyahu
factors into this debate.
Speaker 11 (06:35):
Well, he's the big winner in all of this, and
he seems to be conducting American foreign policy, masterminding American intelligence.
He had tried the last three presidents, including the first
Trump administration, to persuade those American presidents, that Iran was
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imminently about to have a nuclear weapon and the US
needed to help Israel obliterate it. He finally persuaded Donald
Trump in his second term. He's a very persuasive fellow.
He sees this ideologically. You know, one of the problems
of having an American president who sees foreign policy in
terms of the personality of foreign leaders is that makes
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him more receptive to the argument of those foreign leaders.
Remember early in his first term he said he trusted
Vladimir Putin's description of our intelligence more than.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Our own intelligence services.
Speaker 11 (07:34):
So, you know, BB is really guiding a lot of
what's happening here, and we should be talking about how
what he sees as the next step, because that's going
to help focus what the American electorate is going to see.
Speaker 12 (07:50):
Meanwhile, President Trump is floating the idea of a regime
change in Iran. In a truth social post yesterday, the
president wrote, quote, it's the current Iranian regime unable to
make Iran great again? Why wouldn't there.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Be a regime change? This is the.
Speaker 12 (08:05):
First time Trump's raised the possibility of changing the leadership
in Iran since Israel launched that war eleven days ago.
The President's comments also break from the restance of the
rest of his administration that they've been taking, as they've
been saying the intention of Saturday strike was not to
push for regime change, but to prevent Iran from obtaining
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nuclear weapons.
Speaker 13 (08:28):
Times the military has to be used, if it's used
by a smart commander in chief, if it's used wisely,
if it's used for a specific purpose, it gives us peace.
So I want the soap called I don't know what
to call them. People are running around warmonger. The slogan ears,
this should be an education for you too. There should
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be an education for you too, America. Don't you feel relief?
Of course you feel relief because this is These are
Islamo Nazis. We're building nuclear weapons to attack us too,
with intercontinenta bailistic missiles. Guess what, you can go to
bed peacefully tonight. No, that's not gonna happen. That's not
gonna happen. Not because of Obama, not because of Biden,
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not because of the Democrats, not because of some Republican,
because of Donald Trump.
Speaker 14 (09:18):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 15 (09:23):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 14 (09:28):
You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a bedelli full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
going to happen.
Speaker 10 (09:39):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Mega Media?
Speaker 15 (09:44):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 13 (09:53):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Will be saved.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
War Room.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 15 (10:02):
Bath Monday, twenty three June, in the Year of the Lord,
twenty twenty five in a sweltering Imperial capital. Don't you
feel didn't you go to bed Saturday night feeling better?
Speaker 14 (10:19):
Haven't you felt better all weekend?
Speaker 15 (10:22):
Mark Levin the propaganda department over there, the hectoring of
Fox because now the Syaps move into a they're moving
to a different location. We're getting that just a moment,
didn't you go? Didn't you feel better? Don't you feel better?
The engine room. Also in going through the cold Open,
I want to thank my team, just amazing cold open.
Speaker 14 (10:44):
Did you get enough neo.
Speaker 15 (10:44):
Cons there because we can load it up a lot
more folks, just for proportionality. Every dollar we spend focus
on this, every second we spoke, spend focus of this.
Speaker 14 (10:54):
We're not focused on the main thing.
Speaker 15 (10:56):
Although the Mullahs are an ally of I said for
all five years of the show, they provide the oil
for them.
Speaker 14 (11:02):
Dave Walsh is going to join us for that.
Speaker 15 (11:04):
Sam Fattis is going to join us for intel. His thoughts.
Jack psovieks here, we're gonna take this hour. In the
second hour, we're gonna get off the Iran war because
part of this siop is to get us not to
focus on what's important for this country, for America first,
and we're gonna do that, and we're gonna do that
every day. We're gona spend time on the war as
we have to, right and we should. But we're not
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gonna get totally consumed by this, because they get totally
consumed by this is to fall into their trap to
not focus on what's important in this country.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
Uh.
Speaker 15 (11:38):
The engine room informs me though for proportionality, Mark Levin
and all General Keen love General Keen, great guy, Jack Keane.
Although General Kean is kind of morphing into the General
in in Doctor Strangelove a little bit. This is either
going to be ended now or ended in a battlefield.
(11:59):
They're just there's hat to go. What's happening now is
that I think we lost a big part of initiative
yesterday morning, and I was very disappointed. And I love
Pete Heggs that this audience does. As you know, we
went fixedpan xx to get Pete as do od uh
and Raisin Kine a good man and has President Trump's confidence.
Speaker 14 (12:17):
But number one, we should have gone to the initiative.
Speaker 15 (12:20):
I needed, we needed to see some grainy photographs like
schwartzkof put up and they were out there because a
couple hours later, an hour later MSNBC, CNN, we're putting
up and driving the initiative of exactly what happened. I
understand Dood that you don't have the battle damage assessment
that's going to take three or four weeks, as you said,
but there's enough there to kind of take and start
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to drive the narrative.
Speaker 14 (12:44):
We lost that opportunity.
Speaker 15 (12:46):
I've been all weekend saying somebody the Pentagon's got stand
up in front of a podium that says Pentagon in
front of it and actually give us a first cut.
Speaker 14 (12:54):
Photographs are all over.
Speaker 15 (12:55):
We need we need an initial, preliminary, subject to chain
draft assessment of exactly what was accomplished.
Speaker 14 (13:03):
President Trump is so proud of this as he should.
Speaker 15 (13:06):
The precision, logistics, bravery valor, boldness of the attack itself unquestioned, right,
But exactly what was accomplished? Number two, because you see
now it's all about, Hey, we don't know where the
material is. You see the New York Times, the Financial
Times of London, the drum beat on Fox is that.
Speaker 14 (13:23):
What's that going to lead us too? Folks?
Speaker 15 (13:26):
Hey, do we need the seventy fifth Ranger Britaining to
go in and find it?
Speaker 14 (13:31):
Oh, it's coming, It's coming.
Speaker 15 (13:33):
And of course you saw the regime change narrative over
the weekend, right, they're gonna drive that.
Speaker 14 (13:38):
You saw the chavarint Son. I don't know a guy that's.
Speaker 15 (13:40):
Been partying in New York for forty years, fifty years.
They're now at the podium saying they're calling all remember Challiby.
This is Challiby two point Oh remember Challibe. We've got
Challiby two point zero and all that stuff's fine as
long as we're not part of it. You got to
come out of the battle damage assessment. If we got
enough of it done, hey, then it's to the Israelis.
(14:02):
Because I think the tell here, and I think very upsetting,
is why did the United States have to take on
the other two facilities? Were never mentioned in the ROSARS
Fouridah can't get to Florida need bunker busting bombs to
get to Fido. Why is the US Navy in the
North Arabian Sea firing thirty Tomahawks.
Speaker 14 (14:23):
At one of the facilities?
Speaker 15 (14:25):
So why was I not taken out by the air
supremacy of the Israeli Air Force?
Speaker 14 (14:30):
Was the entire thing for the nukes?
Speaker 15 (14:33):
Just cosplay? Is this because the ultimate goal is regime change?
If that's fine, Israelis have at it. Like we said,
finish what you started. If you want regime change, go
for it, baby. Just no participation by the United States government.
Speaker 14 (14:52):
Short break, fattest wash pasobic, next America.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 15 (15:02):
Bab As the engine room atforms made it's a million
deaths by fentanyl. Have a million death by fentanyl fifty
thousand a year? Oh and we got ten thousand. By
the way, every American serviceman, including the Marines in Beirut,
who should have been the vengeance and them should have
come years ago, decades ago. And the money I think
still held up in court, right, I got it. And
(15:25):
the Iranians are bad guys today right now, the Israelis
bomb and Tehran.
Speaker 14 (15:30):
I think they're having a Bestille day.
Speaker 15 (15:31):
They're the bomb in the prison, the Revolutionary Guard headquarters,
good on you bomb away the tumbat regime change. They
got the Shaw's son, like I said, he had a
press conference. He's challibee too. They're getting all that together
in New York City. A proxy for this is what's
happening in New York City right now with that mayor's race.
(15:52):
You watch, you're going to have a radical Islamic mayor
on a socialist atop.
Speaker 14 (15:57):
Everything off.
Speaker 15 (15:58):
But that's the least of the issues that's gonna happen, folks.
Speaker 14 (16:02):
Or it's gonna come damn close.
Speaker 15 (16:03):
And of course you got the uh the rig voting
there right, So everything in New York City fought all
you progressives in New York City, hey, gets get ready
to embrace the future, folks. The progressives has brought this
on us. Now you get the Red Green Alliance. But
in the fog of war, this is where I got Fattest,
Walsh and Walsh and oil in the what's happening in
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the oil markets, particularly what's happened to the threat to
shut down the straits or her moves, which, by the way,
and any Crtesian kind of logic is the craziest things
the Iranians can do. But hey, they're taking incoming and
these guys are not exactly rational anyway, They're working, they're
looking for the thirteenth and you know they're they're following Madi, right,
They're looking for Madi. So this is the rationality. But no,
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Mark Levan, I don't think people are sleeping better. First off,
Sam Fattest, the raid itself was magnificent. It showed you
the coordination, the high technology. Nobody on Earth. I'm sure
the Russians and the Chinese Commis party got their number
two princils out and they were writing down a lot
of Oh my god, these brothers can move, and they
can move fast, and they can move hard, and they
can bring they can bring the heat. But I was
(17:13):
very upset yesterday morning when we least didn't have you know,
give me a Norman Shortz cough, give me at least
a grainy gun caanon photo of exactly what the freaking
you know what happened? They said at the you know
Raisin Kane, who's fantastic and has the presence complete trust,
because Raisin Kane was the guy that actually took isis down.
I don't know in ninety days when they said it
(17:35):
would take ten years. He started off, Sam, as jack
Is pointed out by saying, hey, I got all the
assets that are involved, including Space Command NRO. As you
know we can pick out a license plate on an
Audie in downtown Tehran. Why do I have no grainy photographs?
At least take the initiative that we're taking the initiative.
(17:58):
This happened understanding a bomb damage assessment is thirty days away.
Speaker 14 (18:03):
Sam Fadus, Well, first of all, Steve, I agree with you.
Speaker 16 (18:06):
Obviously, all credit to the men and women who pulled
this off. That's never been our issue, right, the competence
of our people. Why didn't they give us an assessment? Honestly,
I don't think they have any idea what we just
blew up at ford ou' Let's keep in mind three
weeks ago, none of this was going on, and we
weren't talking about doing it until the Israelis showed up
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and handed us a bunch of intel that we apparently
did not have. And so now they're driving the train
and they're the ones that tell us Ford ou has
to be blown up.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
And this is what's there on.
Speaker 15 (18:40):
Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down, don't don't
go too fast, Okay, Israeli's because this is the big debate, right,
the Israeli showed up with intelligence we didn't have.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Correct Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 16 (18:54):
I mean, I get it that now people are attempting
to turn this into a debate. I don't see how
it can be a debate. We know what the written
I see assessment was as of the end of March
Telsea Gabbert delivered to Congress, but what she read word
for word was a prepared formal assessment by the entire
intelligence community, said, the Supreme Leader has not changed the
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decision that was made in two thousand and three to
abandon a nuclear weapons program. So were we concerned about it.
We were concerned about where we're allegedly watching it. Yeah,
was there any urgency? No, because our assessment of our
entire intelligence community was there is as of this point,
no Iranian effort to create a nuclear weapon to operationalize it.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Okay, so that's where we were three weeks ago.
Speaker 16 (19:48):
Nobody was talking about bunk or buster bombs attacking Iran
regime change. And then the Israelis showed up with intelligence
that at the point still remains largely unknown and said,
we're on the cusp. They're about to actually have more
than one. I think number has varied from nine to
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twelve operational nuclear weapons. And sometimes they've made it sound
like within days, as you've pointed out before. Sometimes it
sounds a lot longer. But based on this intelligence that
we did not have, apparently still don't have. Apparently, according
to Secretary Rubio, they still haven't shown us. We have
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now gone to the point where we are bombing sites,
bombing Forda. Now, the fact that Forda had a whole
bunch of centrifuges and it has been involved in the
right I just.
Speaker 15 (20:45):
Want to make sure because people are gonna pick this,
people are going to try to pick this apart. Right,
we're a king defender of virtual people of abandons, flip
eight flip folks.
Speaker 14 (20:53):
But let me be brutally frank.
Speaker 15 (20:55):
The United States of America and American citizens make decisions
for the States of America, full stop, and we will
not back off that one inch. If you don't like it,
that's your problem, okay. And we're going to get to
the bottom of this. We're going to get to the
bottom of this. We are going to look at the
bottom of this and we go get all the facts
hang on. But one thing in the interim from Tulsi,
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didn't the International Atomic Energy Think did come out correct
and make an assessment that they were working on fissicle
fissile material to make ten to fifteen bombs.
Speaker 14 (21:29):
Was that correct?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (21:31):
And the IAA has been kind of sounding that alarm
for some time. I mean, look, I think the Israelis
are closer to the mark than we are, but it
doesn't to me. The fundamental point here is we're steering
now making national security decisions at the highest level that
affect the United States, affect American citizens, and we are
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doing it based on intelligence passed to us by a
foreign power. And it appears to me, based on what
Rubio said the other day, that we have not even
been shown this intelligence. Now, as you say, this is
the United States of America. The Israelis are allies, but
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our decisions on behalf of our citizens. We have to
make for ourselves, and we have to make based on
our own own intelligence. So the Israelis are telling us
we got to bonb FORDEU. I question everything about that.
If they're really if the Iranians are really as close
to having a nuclear weapon as the Israeli suggest, then
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the enrichment activity that you would do at FORDEH is over.
I mean, taking it out will prevent them from a
riching more uranium. But they long since have done.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
The work they needed to do at ford OU.
Speaker 16 (22:53):
If they're really within days and the program now would
be being conducted in much smaller locations than the real
issue would not be that they're bunk they're in bunkers
hundreds of feet under the ground. The real issue would
be it could be done almost anywhere in a commercial warehouse.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Finding is the issue?
Speaker 15 (23:13):
What Okay Hangover saying, because this is the I'm gonna
get back to the bomb damaged assessment. And to me,
the tell, the tell on Saturday night is why we
send the Tomahawks to the third facility. I thought it
was all about ford out right Now we got to
send bunker bond busts to the second facility, but the
third facility.
Speaker 14 (23:30):
Which is kind of above ground.
Speaker 15 (23:32):
I thought the Israelis had air supremacy, supremacy.
Speaker 14 (23:35):
I thought they had air superiority.
Speaker 15 (23:37):
I thought they were doing combat sorty after combat story
and since this is their their number one objective is
this the nuclear power, the nuclear you know, weapons program.
Speaker 14 (23:46):
Number two is the ballistic missiles program.
Speaker 15 (23:50):
Netanyahu estually said point blank, We're not going to get
in a war of attrition. When when those are over,
it's over. I'm just quoting him, But Jack Pisobok. We're
getting Sam hangers, jackies. So we're constantly getting the upsell.
You get the sense of the false sense of urgency,
and maybe it's not false, but I'd like to see
that information. At least give us as much D class
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as you can, because Rubio, I think, I'm not sure
they haven't seen some of it, but certainly haven't seen
all of it to make an independent assessment. But we're
getting the sense of urgency, and we're getting an upsell.
The upsales first regime change, right, the second upsell today,
folks is to Sam's point, well, hang on, maybe they
took it. Maybe we got to find the we gotta
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find that since there was no uh, you know, nuclear
fallout or radiation, right, and no seismic activity.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
Right.
Speaker 14 (24:39):
I'm just quoting the experts. Now.
Speaker 15 (24:42):
Now, now, the Financial Times of the New York Times
both come out almost at the same time with the
same story. Oh well, now we've got to go hunt
for the for the for the material self.
Speaker 14 (24:52):
That reads to me, not just Israeli commandos.
Speaker 15 (24:55):
It's get on the phone and call the seventy fifth
Ranger Battalion. Let's get the seventy fifth Ranger Battalion on
the phone, because I think we got to send a
couple of guys in there to find this stuff.
Speaker 14 (25:02):
Am I wrong? We're getting upsold A Jack Pasovic.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
Yeah, stivet was interesting because the Washington Post rode up
our back and forth the other day, our diatribe about
the upsell, but they left out the part about the
upsell being regime change. I know that was very interesting
because we've always been very clear about this that President
Trump has been focused on the nuclear program. But the
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upsell was to try to suck the United States in
to say, well, you know, maybe it's just gonna be
a special operations rate. Maybe it's just gonna be a
little bit. A couple of boots on the ground, not
too many, just a couple of units. Get some get
some caag in there, Delta Force, Sealed Team six, get
the boys out of dev gru get a little black squadron.
Speaker 14 (25:44):
Go down.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
It'll be fine. It'll be totally fine. That was always
the upsell. Now, hold on a second, because President Trump
told me, obliterated completely. That's what my president said. So
if President Trump says this, obliterated completely, and the New
York Times is pushed for all this, and we got
a lot of questions about what actually went down here,
because I'm going to take the word of my president
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who says obliterated completely, So perfect strike, et cetera, et cetera.
What they're trying to push for. And all these guys,
Jack Keane, the Institute for the Study of War, which
has been completely wrong about everything in Ukraine. By the way,
the iw which Jack Keene runs, those are the guys
telling you, oh, it's going to be one fell strike. Now.
Well here we are three years later, and by the way,
(26:28):
nobody's paying attention. Russia is advancing in Ukraine right now. Well,
no one's looking.
Speaker 15 (26:34):
No in the Chinese Communist Party is advancing in the
South China Sea.
Speaker 14 (26:38):
All these shoals down there and little carriers.
Speaker 15 (26:42):
They're sending, They're sending their fishing boats down there.
Speaker 14 (26:46):
They're really naval craft. Okay, we got Fattus, we got Pasobic,
We've got.
Speaker 15 (26:50):
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Next in the war.
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Okay, welcome back, Birch Gold.
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sam Fats your assessment.
Speaker 14 (27:46):
Are we being upsold?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Here?
Speaker 14 (27:47):
Are we being upsold?
Speaker 15 (27:48):
And by the way, if I've said a million times,
if these Raelers want regime change, go for it. If
they want to go in and send people in to
find the material, go for it. It's their war they
started and they should finish what they started. And hey, look,
I think they've got the valor and the courage and
IDF in the Israeli Air Force, they punch way above
their weight. I think they got these guys maybe on
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the ropes.
Speaker 14 (28:12):
I don't know, Kamini.
Speaker 15 (28:14):
President Trump can't get a meeting for his negotiating time
because the Ayahtola ain't taking calls because the guys that
take calls end up dead.
Speaker 14 (28:23):
Sam fattis your assessment? In the CIA, shouldn't we have her?
Speaker 15 (28:26):
I thought we paid I don't know a trillion dollars
a year for all these seventeen.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
Intelligence agencies.
Speaker 15 (28:33):
We got everything in the world to have an independent
assessment that came from people called Americans that had a
perspective of the United States of America.
Speaker 16 (28:41):
Sir, Look, it is a given in any situation like
this that you're going to have everybody in the world
come out of the woodwork and try to use you
for their intended purposes.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
So, yeah, we got the Crown Prince.
Speaker 16 (28:53):
Now who claims that he's going to ride back into
Tehran on a white horse if we just back him
and restore the monarchy.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
What's the defense against that.
Speaker 16 (29:03):
The defenses against that is that your intelligence services do
their job and you know what the heck is going on,
and you can't be played. So with all respect to
the Israelis, who I've worked with extensively, doesn't change the
fact that they are representing is Israel's interest and our
interest in there do not coincide, and can are we
(29:25):
in a position they do not coincide all the time,
So again you have to have your own intelligence. We
are now in a position where they are driving the train.
They're telling us things, and you know, maybe they're true,
and maybe they aren't true, and maybe there's a mix
of all of the above, and maybe they're just flat
(29:47):
out wrong about some things and they believe they're true.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
This is the maze of mirrors.
Speaker 16 (29:53):
So we have to have our own eyes and ears,
and it is manifestly obvious we don't because again three
weeks ago, we didn't like what was going on in Iran,
but there was no screaming emergency. And now we're standing
on the brink of tumbling out of control and this
thing really becoming a major conflict.
Speaker 15 (30:14):
Under one thousand over forty years, and every one of
those lives are precious, right, including the Marines of the
Marine Barracks that even President Reagan says is the single
biggest mistake he may he admitted two mistakes in his presidency,
doing the deal on amnesty where they let it. They
gave him animascy first and never sealed the border, and
then the Marine barracks. And as soon as he got
(30:36):
him in there and die, he told capern and get
the hell out of there.
Speaker 14 (30:39):
What are we doing? We got enough fight with the Russians.
Speaker 15 (30:41):
We can't be doing this, Jack Bosobic, how's the upsell
going to play out over the next couple of days
and what information do we have to get this audience
to make sure they understand they're being upsold?
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Sir Well, Steve, there's going to be a couple elements
to this. So let's keep in mind that the NATO
conference takes place tomorrow at the Hague and President Trump
is currently scheduled to attend that. We have heard the
leaders of South Korea and Japan, the president new president
and then the Prime Minister have both pulled out, citing
(31:17):
unforeseen circumstances as well as Middle East instability as the
reason they don't want to go. Zelenski, of course, he's
up there. He's meeting with Prince excuse me, King Charles
right now at the UK and he's completely backed all
of the action in Iran. He's calling for potentially for
regime change as well. He wants the US to get
in there big, because here's what the big play is. Now,
(31:39):
what else do you have going on in Europe right now?
The Foreign Minister of Iran, where's he? He's in Moscow.
He's sitting down at the Kremlin right now as we
speak with Vladimir Putin. The video is coming out and
they're saying we're going to deal with this jointly. And
the US has conducted a legal activity, et cetera, et cetera.
So what they're trying to do, Steve, is they want
to put the Iran fight together. Is what the EU wants.
(32:01):
The European leaders, they want to put Iran and Russia
in the same bucket to get Trump to say, well,
wait a minute, you got to fight Russia too through Ukraine.
Couple three bombing runs maybe over there on Russian troops
in eastern Ukraine. So now you've got excuse me on
on Russian troops. Yeah, Russian troops in eastern Ukraine.
Speaker 15 (32:20):
But the Russians hang hanging with the Rustic But the
Russians didn't. The Russians didn't back in the Chinese. Nobody's
come through it and said hey, militarily, we're going to
come in and back off the Israelis. I don't think
the Russians call for the Israelis what Putin said, didn't
he say? Hey, he says, I got to play I
got to play it kind of safe here, Israel, folks,
(32:41):
take your number two parents of line.
Speaker 14 (32:42):
Write this one down.
Speaker 15 (32:44):
Besides the ted Krusia known, there's roughly one hundred and
ninety some million or one hundred million in in Persia.
There're two million Russian Russian speaking Jewish people in.
Speaker 14 (32:54):
Uh In of the nine man in Israel.
Speaker 15 (32:58):
So he just can't pick a I'm sure some of
the people taking incoming and they're taking brutal incoming yesterday
are Russian citizens. So in taking our eye off the
ball of the larger war. And yes, Fox News, we
are in the Third World War. We just don't want
another battle front right now because we got one here
in the United States that we're not focused on enough.
Speaker 14 (33:20):
We got another in the South China. See that they're
running the tables on US.
Speaker 15 (33:23):
I should duly note South Korea canceled going to NATO
this morning.
Speaker 14 (33:29):
Did Japan did also?
Speaker 15 (33:30):
But South Korea, which is totally controlled by the Chinese
Commerce Party, that political party.
Speaker 14 (33:34):
Announced they're not going to NATO.
Speaker 15 (33:36):
They got other things they got to focus on, right,
and Japan announced they weren't going either. I'd actually be
surprised if the President actually attended. I'm not so sure
given the threats, given the hot talk coming out of Tehran,
the big talk Jack that I would send the president
over to NATO right now if you need to talk
to that first of those guys all boring. He was
in Calgary, got bored, came back, right. So how do
(34:00):
we prevent the upsel from getting drawing US in more?
The issue before US is we did what President Trump
said he would do, is take down the nuclear program
he says, it's obliterated the Pentagon. I'm sure it's going
to come out to day or tomorrow and reinforce that
this thing is knocked down because our military and their
valor and their boldness knocked it down.
Speaker 14 (34:21):
It's our mission's finished, is it not? Jack?
Speaker 15 (34:24):
I mean the up the regime change is if the
peacock throne guy that's been hanging out in cocktail parties
in New York City and the Hamptons for fifty years
hasn't a lifting a finger to help free his people.
If that brother is ready to roll, then hey he's
chatiba two point out do it? Hey that sounds great,
That sounds like an idea. If the M e K
(34:45):
want to team up with him, and all these other
revolutionary groups are outside groups, go with them. But we
should have nothing to do with that. Am I incorrect?
Speaker 14 (34:53):
Jack?
Speaker 10 (34:53):
Pisobc Well, Steve, not only that, another watchword to look
for is moderates. You're gonna hear this. This is going
to be rolled out very soon. They're gonna say, well,
there's there's moderate elements that perhaps we can try to
reach out to. And if we can get to the
moderate elements, perhaps they'll depose the I R g C.
(35:13):
They'll depose the leader, and the moderates will rise up
and steve. This was the same exact failed logic that
led to what the third biggest scandal of the Reagan administration,
Iran Contra. Remember this, Robert McFarland. We're going to go
to the moderates, the moderate they're gonna work with us.
We're gonna come together. Everybody seems to have forgotten this.
(35:36):
We tried this, We have tried all the trying try again,
and they tried to and they tried to impeach President Reagan.
Speaker 14 (35:43):
Remember they went on there.
Speaker 15 (35:44):
I think they indicted Sam Finn's Sam had poor cap
became a felon. I think they had They had to
pardoning later totally that one slipped the partnering, Hey, Sam
faddus the hunt for the material, this is a this
is a big deal, right because your point, it could
be anywhere. Who does the CIA normally in the military
(36:07):
turn to. I threw had seventy fifth Ranger Battalion.
Speaker 14 (36:10):
But who would they go to?
Speaker 15 (36:12):
Because when they talk about we got to find the material?
Speaker 14 (36:16):
Am I missing it? They're talking about boots on the ground, sir.
Speaker 16 (36:20):
Well, if that's what they're talking about. We're totally screwed, Steve.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
I mean, how should it work. It should work that
you should have put up.
Speaker 15 (36:28):
Put up, Denver put Denver, put up, put up Financial
Times in New York Times, the two biggest stories in
those papers a day, which are the two dominant news
sources in the world.
Speaker 14 (36:37):
Is your point?
Speaker 15 (36:38):
At the very beginning, they think that they think the
Iranians pulled the stuff out beforehand, because this thing was
kind of telegraphed by the Israelis for a couple of
weeks and pulled it out or pulled it out over
time thinking it was a target. And so let's assume
for purposes discussion the Times and the Financial Times are right.
Speaker 14 (36:55):
What happens to go find it?
Speaker 16 (36:58):
Yeah, well, I think we know that there were trucks
running in and out of ford Ou over the course
of days. There's a question there why we didn't just
bomb those of the Israelis didn't bomb those, So we
know a whole bunch of stuff left for ford Ow.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
That's fact. How should you hunt it?
Speaker 16 (37:13):
You should hunt it with clandestine assets, which is what
the CIA is supposed to have inside Iran, which is
what we did in Iraq when the bombing campaign started
and they all displaced to unmarked locations, we followed them
with teams on the ground and gave us GPS chords
and put jadams through the roof. We apparently don't have
any human sources in Iran that are worth anything. So yeah,
(37:34):
now are you talking about putting actual you know, whether
it's the range, whether it's the Ranger Regiment, or whether
it's other Tier one units. You're talking about putting uniformed American.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Personnel on the ground.
Speaker 16 (37:49):
I mean, come on, we know, Jack, I've worked with
those guys, are great, But you know how that ends
that you do not see undetected.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
It ends badly.
Speaker 14 (37:58):
Jack sam Fatta said, the magic word tier one. What
do you know? Oh my god, what will we get? Folks?
This is the way you get sucked in. Give me
what's Tier one?
Speaker 10 (38:08):
Yeah, WMD's and WMD material doctrine is that that's going
to be your Tier one elements. My bias is always Navy,
so you know, and and it but it's you know,
it's always kind of a jump ball there. But you know,
looking at a situation like that, with the Navy element,
you could have dev grew go in. But since you're
talking about WMD material and potentially bomb making material, because
(38:29):
again the intelligence I haven't seen it, I haven't you know,
touched any of this. But there's been a lot of
questions about triggers. There's been a lot of questions about
delivery systems. So you're going to need a Tier one element,
so either dev grew or or Delta force, but you're
going to need an EO duh. You're gonna need the
EOD element attached to that so that they can deal
(38:51):
with whatever situation they find on the ground there if
they are actually going in and need to render something
safe or confiscate or et cetera, et cetera, whatever you're
talking about. Because again, if this is phizzle material, you're
talking Tier one operators minimum minimum. If you're going to
be sending US boots on the ground, and yes, to
Sam's point of course, you're going to need to locate
(39:11):
this first through intelligence and that also includes human intelligence. Look, uh,
you know you've got to payoff guys on the ground.
You got to need people there. Presumably Massage has had
all of these elements sites.
Speaker 15 (39:25):
Defin you're talking about Seal sealt U saying Seal Teams
e O D Seal Team six with with E O D.
E O D the Frogmen from D O D the
bomb squad that was so brave in Iraq. So youve
got EOD elements alright, D yeah, yeah, let's not getting
(39:45):
that Army Navy fight. Hang on, you two guys, hang on,
I've got Dave Walsh. You're gonna Takotle oil. We got
the We got our two Intel guys, Jack psobic In.
I really appreciate Sam taking the time away day to
join us. He's a safe pair of hands and wrote
one of the best books ever about the Central Intelligence Agency.
We can get that up in the next break. Two
(40:08):
things Number one Birch Gold in times of turbulence. Why
is gold a hedge? It's not the price, not the
price to day tomorrow, it's the process that drives it.
This is why if you go back when we first
started doing this with the and the show at the
Price of Gold then and the price of gold now,
we were there to teach you how to think about it.
That's what Birch Gold wants to do. So make sure
you go get the end of the dollar empire. We
(40:29):
get the seventh free installment about the Bricks Nations and
what they're planning on doing. And I think they're planning
on doing a lot. The Chinese Communist Party. Keep the
main thing, the main thing, And I understand that this
is a front against the CCP, but we got to
rank order those fronts. Number one here the fentanyl killing
over a million Americans, not under a thousand.
Speaker 14 (40:51):
Let's prioritize Fox News. Oh that's right.
Speaker 15 (40:53):
You can't because Murdoch in his relationship with the Chinese.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Communist Part huge Stephen k ban.
Speaker 15 (41:03):
So Birch Gold also always go to Birch Gold promo
Coode Bannon and get to Philipatrin team. You need to
do that. That's who you need to talk to. They're
the pros, right, I just tee it up. They bring
it home. Also, if you like geopolitics, national security into
all that. Jim Rickards, one of our contributors, go to
Rickards war Room. It's a landing page. You get a
(41:24):
special deal on strategic intelligence. Read what the c suites
and what I mean by their chairman of the board, CEOs,
the top dogs, what they're reading strategic intelligence.
Speaker 14 (41:34):
You get a special deal on that. And he throws in.
Speaker 15 (41:36):
A free book money GPT about artificial intelligence and currency
and currency trading, all of it. So check it out
to the Artificial Intelligence MTG and Mike Davis on here
about something in the Big Beautiful Bill. So both of
those are coming into the next hour. Also Harmet Dylan,
we're trying to get her over the Justice Department as
we're gonna sit there and say, we're just not going
to get sucked in and focus on all this.
Speaker 14 (41:57):
Jack, give me.
Speaker 15 (41:59):
A minute on what you need to see from Pete
and the guys Gorilla the gorilla from Sencom and raising
Kine today. What types of elements would you like to
see to make sure we get a great picture here
as we say we stand relieved right with these frailis
relieve the watch. We want to have a complete turnover.
(42:20):
What do you want to show them?
Speaker 10 (42:23):
Well, see, when it comes down to this, you know,
as as a prior intelligence officer and someone who's looked
at these types of situations before, when you're conducting battle
damage assessment and some of the things you're going to
look at they're not just going to be these commercial
imagery photos that we're seeing from Maxar and others. The
United States intelligence community, of course, So when has has
(42:45):
every eye in the sky, and on a strike like this,
you would have every single intelligence satellite spy satellite focused
directly on every facility that was being hit, particularly FOURDOH
because of its extreme distance, extreme depth beneath the surface
of that mouth. And so we've got all sorts of
capabilities up there to see into this from an intelligence perspective,
(43:06):
and and if if the President wanted to, he could
declassify this or other elements could be declassified as well.
So we're not just looking at basic satellite imagery of
say those sites and those tunnels. By the way, we've
got we've got if you're want to look inside a tunnel,
we've got satellites. They can shoot on an angle and
they can get right into that tunnel. So those trucks
looking up to this, you would have had satellites that
(43:27):
were tracking every single truck, what was being done, what
was being put onto them. Plus you've got synthetic aperture radar,
you've got things that can look deep inside these mountains.
We've got all sorts of ability to look into this
to measure what's going on, and the red we've got
the rest to really track.
Speaker 15 (43:46):
This down if they wanted to drones all over the place. Yeah,
they got drones all over the place. They've been doing
drone war and winning into run hanger for a second.
Dave Walsh, give me, make me smart. The Presidence sends
out a tweet today going wild. Then he says, drill, baby, drill.
What is the president's issue today with oil? The straits
(44:07):
of horror moves in the Persians?
Speaker 17 (44:10):
Sir, well, he's worried about the hor must rates being
blocked for a while. Prices, by the way, seemed to
be done point six percent so far today, seventy two
bucks ballpark. But with that said, he's doing the job
owning thing the President tries to do. Try to get
excellon mobile Chevron Occidental Marathon Jesspeake to do something they
(44:31):
have never done before for fifty five years in this country,
never done before, and that is, guess what, Let's not
match opek and world oil prices. That's not going to happen.
They're going to match world oil prices. In part one
reason we have never taken onopak. We have decided to
slow down, called it slow down, slow down.
Speaker 15 (44:52):
What did you just say I want to audience understand
it because I don't walk me through that again.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
No, he's going to jaw.
Speaker 17 (44:58):
He's attempting to job bone through social media the major
oil producers in this country to please don't go along
with world oil prices that okay, Deutsche Bank is forecasting
you're going to go from a range of eighty five
to one hundred and twenty bucks, possibly for the time
period that the straits of hormones may be blocked. We
buy precious little oil that comes from that source. Only
(45:21):
like seven percent of our imports, which are almost nil
to begin with, come from there. What he's concerned with
is global pricing going to eighty five one hundred and
twenty bucks, from which we benefit massively, by the way,
is our major export commodity. But in consumers here will
be punished if that happens, because these companies will raise
prices to match what happens globally and the demand they
(45:44):
get globally to displace the twenty million barrels a day
that comes from the sections of the Middle East that
are furnished through the hormone straits. So he's job owning
our domestic industry to try to hold prices in line.
Don't go along with the bad guys.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Not going to work.
Speaker 17 (46:00):
They're going to as they always have. They'll track prices
with Opek and the rest of the world to wherever
the global markets go. And right now the assessment of
Deutsche Bag, for example, is we might be headed to
eighty five low to one hundred and twenty high based
on this hormone straits impact for as long as it
may last. But it is to Rubo's.
Speaker 14 (46:21):
Poy, But hang on, hang on twenty twenty.
Speaker 15 (46:27):
Eighty percent of the cash flow comes from what they
sell the Chinese, and we see Malaysia and all this stuff.
Just those are off fronts for the Persians. Sell on
it to the Chinese. The Chinese Persians is on a
main and a half to two and a half maybe
three million barrels a day. Why why would you being
a sailor that's happened to sail a combatant into the
streets or herr moves? Why would the Iranians want to
(46:48):
close it? If you close it, aren't they cutting? Aren't
they slitting their own throat? This is the logic. I
don't get what's the what's the strategic logic here? For
why they would even do it.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 17 (46:58):
It does appear on the surface to be suicidal as
a move for them, because that you're talking about the
two million barrels a day going to China all flow
that way from them, one hundred million dollars a day
of revenue for them. They're desperate, they're isolated, they're cut off,
They're they're basically looking for a sympathy play through this
process of attempting to congeal China, support Korea, support your.
Speaker 15 (47:24):
Specialist, and they would cut off Europe.
Speaker 14 (47:27):
Europe. Europe would be done if you cut off straight
to her moves. Europe gets no oil.
Speaker 17 (47:31):
Right large supply to Europe, way more than here, Yes, substantial, substantial.
But they want to try to conjail Guitar and the
Kingdom with them also because they're they're bad.
Speaker 15 (47:41):
The guys that king got it, Kingdom U a e
catar Okay, I got it. But I'm gonna spend I'm
gonna need some more time with you post, so you
gotta go. Sam Fetis, I'm a I'm gonna ask you
to stick posts of social media the show. You're up
here at two o'clock. Your social media is on fire.
Taking incoming sometimes but giving as good as you get.
Where do you go post.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
So for you, Well, people are more than happy to
step right up to come get me at social media.
If you want to follow me, just go go watch
to NBC, Washington Post, John Stewart, The Daily Show. They're
all coming after post. So and I'm more than happy
to take it on because as a Philly guide, that's
what we do. So, yeah, we're gonna be up. We
We've got the great Matt Boyle from breitbartar. We're gonna
(48:24):
be talking all things political because there's a domestic agenda
here as well, Hue deportations, the big beautiful Bill, all
the rest of it. You know, we've got some borders
that we are to worry about here at home too.
Speaker 15 (48:36):
By the way, Massy Portation is the leading front post.
So where do people go to your social media real They.
Speaker 10 (48:42):
Go at Jack Pasobic, truthcat or social or telegram.
Speaker 15 (48:47):
Also, this race in New York City, you're about to
have a radical jihadis Muslim as your mayor a proxy
for this war next in the world,
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