June 24, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON
GUESTS:
MARC CAPUTO
MATT SCHLAPP
SEN. JOSH HAWLEY
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And again I don't want to say this will be
the consequence. We need to understand what's really happened here
is that we used to have tabs on that in raiseranium.
We had inspectors, We had a program and a regime
to go look at that and have the spot inspections
to make sure that was not being pursued toward a
nuclear weapon capability.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
If we've lost sight of that and.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Lost track of that, there's are real question as to
how stronger hand really is in terms of Iranian's ability
to pursue that further.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And the question for me now, and I think for.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All of us, is will this cease fire shouldn't hold?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And I think we all hope that it will.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Will that lead us to a diplomatic channel that's truly fruitful.
We got to get back to that situation because a
military only conflict only empowers the worst actors in Iran
and makes it far more I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
But I'm not happy that Israel's going out now. There
was one rocket that I guess was fired overboard, it
was after the time limit and admits it's dogged. And
now Asriel's going out, these guys got to calm down.
I didn't like plenty of things I saw yesterday. I
didn't like the fact that Israel it right there, they
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didn't have to unload, and I didn't like the fact
that the retaliation was very strong. But in all fairness,
Israel unloaded a lot. And now I hear Isua just
went out because they felt it was violated by one
rocket that didn't land anywhere. That's not what we want,
I'll tell you, and I'm telling you I'm not happy
about that Israel either. That place is demolished. The B
(01:32):
two pilots did their job. They did it better than
anybody could even imagine. They hit late in the evening,
it was dark with no moon, and they hit that
target with every one of those things, and that place
is gone. But when I see CNN all night long,
they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as
demolished as we thought it was demolish. That you take
(01:53):
a look at the pinpricks and you see that place
is gone. And I was saying, I think CNN or
to a powerologize to the pilots of the V two's.
I think that MSD and CEO to apologize. I think
these guys. Really, these networks are these cable networks are
real losers? You really are, You're real, your gutless losers.
(02:19):
I say that the CNN because I watch it. I
have no choice. I gotta watch it all fakes. But
I think CNN is a gutless group of people and
the people that run it. Nobody even knows who's been
sold so many times, but the people that are run
it over to be ashamed. MSD and C. A guy
named Brian Roberts. He heads it. He's a disgrace. He's
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a weak, pathetic, disgrace.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Wrong, violent in the war room.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
He actually reminds me of that guy in Deliverance. Who
is that guy in Deliverance? Baby? What was his name?
Can you google that? Well, I'm talking to you, mister producer. Okay,
that just looked that. That's who he really reminds me of.
Except his hair is longer, you know, he looks like
a hippie. But nonetheless, nonetheless, while he's picking on Kaylee mcanenny,
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who's in that suite, who's a sweetheart because he doesn't
like her opinion, Marjorie Tayler Green has to be one
of the dumbest people to ever serve in the House
of Representatives. This stupidity that comes out of that woman's
mouth is it's hard to imagine the Iranians didn't kill
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any Americans. Just stupid, which is.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Why they want to promote her or.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Katarlson on a day like this, shouldn't he be praising
the president and the Prime Minister of Israel for what
they've achieved. No, he praises katar hence his name Katarlson.
Then we have Matt Gates, who's really destroyed his career,
destroyed himself.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But what expect, No wonder he didn't want that report
to go out.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
This guy is officially certified one of the biggest perverts
in my humble opinion, just my opinion. I went back
and looked Holy Macro. Wow, just a very strange group.
Great piece by rich Lowry Nash, reviewed by this guy,
(04:23):
Dave Smith, a comic, got to check that out. So
they're there. But here's the thing. There are millions and
millions of you. There are hundreds, if not thousands, or
brilliant writers and commentators who lay out the case for
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freedom and the constitution, for our own countries, national security,
for border security. I bring them to you often, whether
it's on this program, on television or on Blaze, rational people,
not grifters, not slogan ears, morons, and worse. That's what
(05:07):
we do here. We don't call our show the war
room the war room. We don't praise Qatar today. We
praise the American military and our commander in chief and
our allies, the Prime Minister of Israel and the Israeli military,
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a fantastic alliance that has achieved an enormous, enormous amount
in twelve days. You know who knows this, President Trump?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He knows this.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
After the Iranian attack on the US Basin Cutter, which
is right here, do you expect the US personnel, US
interests or at any risk in the region.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Probably not.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
The United States likely saw those missiles on the pad
before they've even launched, and came at them. We understand
that they gave us a heads up as they were coming.
I mean, it's kind of you know, missile theater, kabuki theater,
and it's just it's just crazy. I'm not of the
mindset that we should be accepting missile attacks from any
country regardless. I think there's so many unintended consequences that
can happen, but we let it happen. As you know
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the Middle East, that is how it goes. But from
this point going forward, I'm not so sure that Iran
will target US forces.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
And again, you know this is this is where this
is some footage right now from inside Israel of what's
been hit in Israel. This is in the southern part
of the country where there were casualties and people killed there.
What are you looking for in the next few hours here?
Speaker 7 (06:32):
So again, Israel has been going after regime centers of gravity.
They've been going after police forces and Republican guard units.
Why because they know if there is regime change, those
are the units that will control the crowds. So Israel's
not looking to stop. They i think want regime change,
and so from their perspective, if they go after those
targets like they've been going after before, that's what they
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want to do.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Ron violated the agreements. Do you believe that Iran.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Supe I do?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
They violated, But Israel violated it too. Israel, as soon
as we made the deal, they came out and they
dropped the load of bobs the likes of which I've
never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm
not happy with Israel. You know, when I say okay,
now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in
the first hour and just drop everything you have on them.
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So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with
Iron either, But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out
this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that
was shot perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not
happy about that. What we have, we basically have two
countries that have been fighting so long and so hard
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that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do
you understand that.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
This is the primal screen of a dying regime.
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 9 (08:07):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 10 (08:17):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Mega media?
Speaker 7 (08:22):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Worry. He's your host, Stephen.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
K ma.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's Tuesday twenty four, Junie.
Speaker 9 (08:45):
You're a Rolert twenty twenty five boy, Tel Aviv, live
in Tel Aviv, live in is He's big mad.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh, he's big mad, big meg.
Speaker 9 (08:56):
Because he didn't as a as a spokesperson and as
a spokesmodel for a foreign nation, they didn't get what
they want President Trump, and saw you saw hy Bb
can't be trusted.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That you know who can't be trusted?
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Yesterday they took the This cease fire was as much
to save Israel. That's the hidden story here. They bid
off way more than they could chew. They were played
out as far as yesterday was a brutal day for
the citizens of Israel. Took horrible incomings, particularly in Tel Aviv,
and I guess Bersheba also they needed this because they
were running a defensive ammunition and President Trump stepped.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
In there with the help of Qatar.
Speaker 9 (09:35):
Look, you know, we can't We've come a long way
since seven years ago when Qatar, you know, would not
work with us. On stopping the financing of Islamic terrorism,
the financing of it, and they come a long way.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
They've stepped in the middle.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
Of the situation in Gaza, and they stepped in the
middle here. And President Trump is going his way to
praise him, and he's not going to have his way
to praise net Yehu's government, which I think. I think
he's getting to be an issue when President Trump puts
out the kind of true socials he's put out today,
target you know, focus on the net Yahoo government. You
ought to take those as a papal bull. He's tired
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of it, He's tired of the nonsense. There's not going
to be regime change. Your whole strategy for this, which
was regime change from the very beginning. If it happens,
is going to be the Persian people that do it,
which should be the way to go. And I'm not
the Iya Tolas are as bad as they get. Mark
Caputo from Access you join us. You're reporting on this
has been pretty extraordinary. Can you talked this morning about
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particularly this phone call which I think you're the only
person reporting it is this phone call with between the
President of the United States in net Yahoo well.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
In fairness others have And from what we were told
by senior administration officials is and they said us in
diplomatic language on background that Trump called and relieved his
concerns in very strong terms, and that Prime Minister and
Yahoo said he understood those concerns.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Now, when I spoke.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
To one of my sources who I'm trying to make
sure to protect him, called him a Trump advisor and said, boy,
it sounded like BB got a ripped by Donald Trump.
They said, yeah, pretty much. Now you saw and you've
seen Donald Trump angry. You've been in private rooms with him.
(11:23):
You know what that's like. So I would imagine that
ride on that Marine one helicopter after Trump departed the
White House was probably one of those situations where aids
are just going to stay away from the President and
make sure he cools off because his blood was up.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And I think.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
You've been on this beat for a long time. I've
never seen the President that mad. I've never seen that
man to drop an F bomb like that. I've never
seen the way he's addressing net Yahoo. He's furious because
he's put it all on the line. He got he
worked and had to work with Kutar. They and this
was to save Israel. Netniahu jeopardized israe on the people
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of Israel. They're the ones taking the big in Cummings tomorrow.
Pursis one hundred million people. It's three times the size
of Texas. They can take a lot of beating Israel's tiny.
It's a strip of land on the sea and nine
million people they're taking and and and the dome ain't working.
I mean they're running out of ammo. I'm not saying
it's not working. The it's got too many ballistic missiles
coming at him. President Trump did that for him and
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his government. And now they're trying to and now they're
trying to get in every lick they can possibly get.
And Trump's not going to have it. He doesn't play
that way. He said, you know, his big thing is
no games. I mean, you've seen him Mark, Have you
ever seen this?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Mad? I have not seen him this, Mad. I mean,
he was infuriated. As I said, I don't.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Endy anyone being on that marine one helicopter ride with him.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Afterward.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
However, it appears that it was a message delivered and
message accepted. But this is the Middle East. It's difficult
to stop people from killing each other when they want
to kill each other. And if Trump pulls this off,
if this happens, it's going to be quite a few.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
No, he's put it all on the line here. Mark Kaputo,
your reporting is incredible. If you would stick around, I appreciate.
Hold you for another block. Mark Computo Ha actually had
about the phone conversation with nt Yahoo this morning. President
Trump's been working all night. You could tell I think
you're supposed to leave at five o'clock. I don't think
he left the six forty five. President Trump's not one
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to delay getting He's going to NATO with a whole
other can of worms about Ukraine and Russia and all
of it. Of course, NATO has agreed to five percent
of their GDP.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Think about that. We couldn't get these.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Guys to two percent that they had committed to in
the first term.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Now it's a cheery.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
I think the only outlier of Spain, and they're putting
Spain on some special program.
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Speaker 9 (13:48):
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Global South, the Persians being part of that, around being
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Speaker 9 (14:26):
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Speaker 4 (14:34):
We're long violated there the by agreement. Do you will
need that a run for we need to see it, Yeah,
I do. They violated, But Israel violated it too. Israel
as soon as we made the deal, they came out
and they dropped the load of bobs, the likes of
which I've never seen before, the biggest load that we've seen.
I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay,
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now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in
the first just drop everything you have on him. So
I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iron either,
but I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning
because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot
perhaps by mistake that didn't land. I'm not happy about that.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
President Trump furious about this day all you know, he's
not going to get involved in this thing.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
That's why he did one and done.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
Did the military strike one and done obliterated. Of course
the day they're going to they're.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Up on the hill. We're going to find out.
Speaker 9 (15:32):
We need to find out about this intelligence, about why
it was so urgent, why Ratcliffe and the CIA was
making the case against all the other intelligence groups, why
it was so urgent it had to be last Thursday.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And I think the other question's got to.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
Be when we went in and did the bombing, why
do we have to do Tomahawks said the third site
was above ground, Why why was that not taken out?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Because here's what it looks like.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
It looks like the Israeli did nothing at all about
the nuclear bomb making capability of the Persians, the reason
their entire objective from the first night. What we say
here on the show on Friday looked like a decapitation
not of the religious leadership, but certainly of the military
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high command, including the people that President Trump was negotiating
with Steve Wickcoff's negotia. When it turns out later maybe
they didn't get all of them, but at least on
that Friday morning, they didn't have any Nobody was taking
phone calls for the Sunday meeting. We need to get
to the bottom of all that for the good of
the country, Markaputo, I want to go back. This is
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pretty President Trump working onstop because he's not going to
get involved in regime change. If that's going to happen,
the Persian people are going to have to do it.
He's not going to get involved in regime change. He's
not going to get involved and tied up in some
long protracted conflict. He got to cease fire. He basically said, hey,
it's a twelve day war. It will be called the
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twelve Day War, right. He gave a name to it,
and he worked with the Guitaris and I'm sure some
other people behind the scenes to lay out the framework
and say, you know, guys, work it out. And yet
Netnyahu's government immediately tries to take an edge and tries
to game President Trump. That's not the way. He does
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not respond well to that. Do you think, sir, Well.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Obviously he didn't.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
At the same time, what do you expect if you're
going to say everyone is going to agree to a
cease fire in a few hours. Well, you know, human
nature responds to deadlines by waiting up until the last
minute to finish the job. And the best available evidence
indicates that in Israel's mind there was a lot more
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of the job to be finished. And my colleague at
Axos Barakravid had reported that last night in a conversation
between Trump and Yahoo, Trump told him you got to
scale back the attacks. You can't go full boar here,
and you got to call it off. And apparently Nan
Yahoo told him, well, I can't call everybody off for
whatever reason, but I'll scale it back.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So at least as of last.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
Night, Trump's understanding was this was going to be a
scaled back attack. This morning, Trump wakes up, looks at
the media, looks at social media. He sees that there
was a lot more firing than he wanted, and he
blew a stack, as we just saw there on the lawn.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
Because Nanya, who lied to him to be blunt, he
lied to him first of you should be able to
call it all off the president United States, that's put
everything on the line and actually went out and took
out the nuclear that you knew you had to do
at the beginning, and you didn't have the resources to
do it, and you knew that, which is obvious. In fact,
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you needed the Tomahawk missiles to take down the third one.
When President Trump says, hey, I want it knocked off,
you knock it off. But then if you say, oh, well,
I can't call everybody back, why why can't you call
him back? But if you can't, he says, scale it back.
And President Trump gets up in the morning after only
a couple hours sleep to get on a dawn launched
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to NATO, and he sees all over the world that
you pulverize these people.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
He's gonna get upset.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
And that's why you've seen him this morning, as mad
as I've ever seen him, Mark Capudo.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Indeed, Donald Trump does want peace in the Middle East.
One of the things you'd never want to ask Donald
Trump about as a reporter is his legacy, because if
you start asking him that in his ear, in his mind,
you're basically asking him when do you become irrelevant? However,
that having been said, Donald Trump is thinking about his
legacy and what he wants. And this is according to
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all the aids I've spoken to, and just my observation
of him is he wants to go out as the
guy who brought peace to the Middle East and peace
to Ukraine in the Russian invasion. So that's how he
wants to be remembered, at least when it comes to
foreign policy. Obviously, his America First domestic policy is well
worn and well understood, but it's important to understand the
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mindset of Donald Trump. He has a lot riding on this,
I think, as you said.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And when he.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Pardoned the pund not intended sort of shot out of
the cannon quickly and set on truth social on social
media yesterday, Hey we've got to cease fire between Iran
and Israel. He said that because he thought he had
an agreement between the two parties, and so when he
sees bombs and missiles going off, it's going to piss
him off.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Markapudo, where's your reporting going on this? You're all over
the White House. You obviously didn't take the trip to NATO.
President Trump's going to go over there. He's got a
whole another set of issues over there. In the Ukraine.
He wants to get the Russian rough prochment done in
this negotiation, wants them to lay down.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Their guns there.
Speaker 9 (20:51):
And since that's not on the front page every day,
they're getting pounded. Of course, Lensky's asked for forty billion dollars,
which I don't think is in the big beautiful bill
where's your reporting going on covering the entire Third World War?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Well, speaking of Zelensky and Ukraine is and I don't
know how many billions it is, but the money that's
been appropriated for the Ukraine War, the invasion of Russia
or whatever we're going to call it, there's still money
sitting around. And they call it presidential drawdown authority. The
president of the United States has the ability to send
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more billions of dollars already appropherty.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
A Congress over to Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Now, the question I have, and one of the things
I want to know, is if Iran looks as successful
as it does currently and if that remains, how does
it strengthen President Trump's hand to bring peace to Ukraine.
And that's sort of the big unanswered question. And Donald
Trump is a guy who you said to Zelenski in
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that famous White House meeting where he sort of blew
his stack at Zelenski as well, he thinks in terms
of what cards you have to play, well, that money
to arm Ukraine to help it wage its war or
its defense against the Russian invasion is a card to
play against Putin. Putin has lost a lot of I
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don't want to say he's lost an ally, but Iran's
ability to be a menacing, hyper threatening force in the
Middle East has been attenuate. Iran supplies Russia with a
lot of the drones it's been using for attacks, and
it's an open question as to just how much this
has strengthened Trump's hands going forward and how much it's
weakened Putin's. I don't know the answer to that, and
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that's something I'd like to find out.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Markaputa, Where do people get you on social media? And
where they get you at Axios?
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Mainly have Twitter, Mark a Kapudo, Mark with a C
and axios dot Com easy to find and sometimes perhaps
too often for my boss's tastes, reply to tweets, so
you can certainly find me on x.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Thank you very much, marka Puda, great reporting as usual.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
On the other stream, we've got Matt Boyle. Edward Breitbart
is doing a special today with the.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Cabinet.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
He's doing a series of cabinet interviews with cabinet officials
at these events he's putting on and are the Briightbart
guys are putting on. And we've got that. Grace has
got that. If you want to dip in and out
of that, or we'll save it so you see it later.
But it's live streaming right now. The Secretary Energy. Let's
get back to the situation President Trump. And this is
right now, I think starting shortly are closed door briefings
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by Tulsey, Gabbard, d and I in Ratcliffe. We have
to get a full accounting of what's going on here
because the Netanyahu government is out of control. You saw
this point blank. President Trump bent over backwards, moved heaven
and earth to get this thing sorted. Called it the
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twelve day war. He couldn't have been clear. It's the
end of the twelve day war. When President Trump gets involved.
When President Trump puts out these true socials saying things
or ended, you should take it like a papal bull.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
It's a fact.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Number one on the on the hearings I think we
got to hear from Ratcliffe. We still have no visibility
on what this special intelligence was and where it came
from that drove the Thursday night Friday morning attack.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
We need to find that out.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
We need to know who is the source of that,
what did it mean, and what did they say about
having a weapon that could be used like immediately or
very quickly, so that you had to go immediately to
draw President Trump into this, the United States into this.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's still very unclear number one.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Number two, we have to ask some pointy questions, particularly
why did you have to come for us to take
out the entire bomb making nuclear apparatus, including the above
ground that we had to hit with Tomahawk missiles. Why
did you appears that you didn't do any to sort
that out. Number three, you're planning to defend your own citizens.
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Why did you have to come to us immediately? And
I'm telling you yesterday President Trump did that for Israel.
Israel was getting pounded Netnyah, who basically bid off way
more than can choose, thinking that he could get as
drawn into a major war and it's not happening. And
President Trump did. The military operation was absolutely magnificent. And
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pulled off and, as President Trump said, obliterated their nuclear
bomb making capability. I think it's now time to get
the facts, and particularly the facts about Netnyah, who's government.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Which is not supportive of President Trump.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
President Trump, when he has a conversation with a guy
who he's getting a couple of hours of sleep after
bringing to a conclusion what he's called the twelve Day War,
to get on a plane to go deal with the
Ukraine and NATO, he's got to get up at five
in the morning. I think he gets two or three
hours of sleep. He tells you on the phone, I
want this thing stood down. And he gets up and
he sees that you lied to him, and in fact,
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you went even further of what he told you not
to do.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Now that's not being an ally. Of course, you're not
an ally.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
You're a protectorate, and protectorates are not supposed to act
like that. We need to get to the bottom of this,
regardless of the communications propaganda channel over at Fox.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
We need facts.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Here's your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
We have a third World war that's already here. Of
the kinetic part. President Trump is heading into talk to
the NATO guys and I talk about opportunity costs. He
has spent NonStop on this war, NonStop as commander in chief,
organizing all of it. And think about this, he's got
to not just cut the deal on the big beautiful bill,
which is enormously complex when you look at all the
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different aspects. So he's got to whip the vote. He's
the whip. He's the House whip and the Senate whip.
And oh, by the way, the invasion on the southern
border and the Stephen Miller is getting more airtime on
Fox and other places, is really the most important front
of the Third World War. Now, why are like tel Aviv,
(27:22):
Livin and all these guys, so, why are they so
apoplectic because we defeated them they wanted and you saw
them say, you can't.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Talk to the Persians any we can't talk to the
ratings anymore. You can't do you know, it's time to
overthrow all that. You heard Lindsay Grant. We gave Lindsay
forty minutes on the show yesterday. You heard it.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
We wanted to be with no filter. Let the American
people hear it, and you laughed.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
It's a joke. Ovin. They're all a joke.
Speaker 9 (27:49):
And of course at Fox there they're a mouthpiece and
a propaganda arm for a foreign government. And you have
to weigh and measure this. But President Trump's way to
measure it. What do you do? He came out exactly
what America for US is non interventionists. He took care
of what he thought the immediate problem was what he
(28:09):
was told was the media problem. And he is committed
to over a decade. Hey, they're not going to have
a nuclear bomb making capability. And besides the tea's over
the weekend, he was adamant about this. And I mean
he's put out a number of tweets, he's put out people.
The Walter Bloomberg's got quoted is no regime change. The
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iatolas are as bad as they get. But we live
in a world of bad own brace in Levin and
these guys talking about a thousand guys, Yes, the Marines
that didn't that were killed and slaughtered back when we
think in nineteen eighty three, that were never avenged, and
we never really got them their money, right, never got
(28:51):
the families, the money from the Persians from hesblow in
the crowd, yes, and the ones in Iraq. But that's
because that's because Levin and that crowd are the same
crowd that beat the war toxins, Mark Thesens, all of
them beat the war toxins. For the war criminal Chainey,
He's a war criminal. Because this wasn't a misinterpretation of intelligence.
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They bald faced lied. This wasn't some people make mistakes,
governments make mistakes. That was a lie to put Americans
in harm way for their own internal what they wanted
to achieve.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That they were never straightforward to the American people.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
That same crowd there running the same exact playbook and
including the upsell the sense of urgency, and then the
upsell the sense of urgency and then the upsell. And
President Trump savvy, not gonna be upsold. He put it
to bed. He said, no, the Twelve Day War is over.
You've had two important wars in the formation of israel I.
(29:52):
Remember as a paperboy, at least the first thing you had,
you had the sixty seven War, and then you had
the Six Day War.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
He had the seventy three war. He had the yam
Kapur War.
Speaker 9 (30:02):
Of which they were both they were undersneak, attack right
and beat back.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Right.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
The Arab armies the combined Arab armies. And President Trump's
not going to get We're not going to get engaged
again at that level. You're not going to You're not
going to get into a war in Persia, another forever war.
He put a kebash on it, the hardest pitch they
made because this was all about regime change from the beginning.
Make sure you understand that this was always about regime change.
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This is why they had to decapitate. Where were they
here on Friday that morning? Decapitation of their senior military command.
And to know that they never touched, they never touched
the nuclear capabilities of all, including the above ground, with
all the air supremacy they had, because that was the
hook for the Americans. President Trump did his duty as
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commander in chief. He took it out the immediately got
the threat. And now I wanted the investigation has got
to be what that intelligence that made it so urgent,
because I think it's going to shock you and the source?
And where's the ballistic missile capability that made us so
immediate that you had to go last Thursday? Given everything else,
President Trump has in this plate and this nation has
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on this plate, and quite frankly Israel and trying to
finish the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas franchisee in Gaza. Is it
a way that you treat what happened last night? And
I have preached this from the beginning. They're not trustworthy.
The net Nyahoo crowd is not trustworthy. They're not worthy
(31:37):
of our trust. They're not worthy of our trust, and
last night showed it in living color.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Don't ask me.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Ask a guy named Donald Trump, Commander in Chief of
the American Armed Forces and President of these United States,
before he goes to bed to have a phone call.
I don't want We're not You're not going to gain this.
I want everybody put it down. Well, I can't stop everybody,
but Trump says, hey on scale, I want to stop now.
I don't buy you can't stop everybody. I don't buy it.
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But even that he said, scale it back. When he
wakes up, you didn't do it, and you hit you
with both barrels this morning. And when you're a protectorate,
you better act like a protectorate. When the guy this
got jered, particularly after yesterday he did this. This was
not done just for the Persians, Theia Persia's three times
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the signs of Texas and God, I don't know, ninety
one hundred million people, it's huge in forbidding. I think
Tel Aviv Tehran's got with nine or ten million people,
and they're good.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
They're hitting it. Yesterday, they're doing the still day.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
They're bombing the prison, they're bombing the Revolutionary Guards headquarter.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Is good, good on you.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
But now when President Trump works and comes out with
a ceasefire of which you had come to him because
you're taking such intense income. I think they took down
a city lock in Tel Aviv. I'm not quite sure
that everybody's seeing what's happening in Telviy. The citizens of
Israel are getting pounded, pounded, pounded. And this is with
US coming in as air defense, with not just the
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Arly Burke class and the destroies and friggates in the
Eastern med everywhere, and they're running out of they're running
out of they're running out of anti missile and anti aircraft,
anti air they're running out of air defense missiles, running
out like it's not that I don't think we can
even supply him. He bit off more than the intrudance.
(33:36):
He could not finish what he started. He could not
finish what he started, and they have not been trustworthy
and last night showed it. Oh, Bennon, you're so hard,
But just look at the facts of last night and
look at the pressure Trump's under. How much sleep is Trump?
President Trump getting this guy get on a plane it
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was supposed to be five in the morning. Guy a
plane supposedly five in the morning, and fly all the
way over to Europe and sit down with that crowd.
You saw how much he loved him in Calgary. He
couldn't wait to get out of there. They're a waste
of his time. Now today they're going to sit there
and go we're going up to five percent defense spending.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Think about that for a second.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
You talk about another protectorate Western Europe in the In
the first administration, first term, we were like supplicants to
ask him to get to two and we kind of
got blown off. A President Trump ain't gonna get blown
off for too long. He might blow him off at
the start, but he ain't gonna get blown off like
b B blow him off last night. B B blow
him off. I would not blow President Trump off. I
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don't think that's productive. The European's blow him off. Now
they're five percent. He's gonna go over there. He's got
to figure out this situation in Ukraine to stop the
other part, the bloodiest part of the Third World War.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Two million and a million on each side.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
And that's coming from both Ian Bremmer and British newspapers.
As President Trump says, I think the Ukraine numbers a
lot higher. They're not exactly coming up with real numbers
all the time because they got a problem. They got
a demographic problem with people leaving the country. Big report
of young women leaving and young men. The parents don't
want them into you know, they don't even have a draft,
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don't want him in the military.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Plus and Lindsay's coming back. He needs another forty bay
in the year.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
He says, I'm not so sure that's totally in the
big beautiful bill. But President Trump has said that the
twelve Day War is over. So Lindsey Graham and tel
Aviv Levin and all that crowded Fox and all that
chest beating, if the Persian people want to do it, it's
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up to them, and that's the way you get regime change.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Let them do it.
Speaker 9 (35:49):
If they've had a belly full of it, they've had
a belly full of let them do it. This is
the way you get change, and the United States doesn't
get in the middle of it and not drawn into
another forever war. He's not going to be drawn into
a forever war. He did his duty. He did his duty.
And it might add that the Netnyahu government started a
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war knowing that they couldn't do anything on what they
said was the highest priority was the nuclear capability. Then
they said the ballistic missile that I don't know. I
think I suppose they've done a good job on that somewhat,
but they're still taking incoming like nobody can believe. There's
still Israeli citizens getting pounded. They're taking blocks and apartment
(36:31):
buildings down in Tel Aviv. But the first strategic what
you said, was the war about you did nothing. Hence
not just the bunker busters, don't lose, don't don't miss
the tell, the tells, the Tomahawks a nineteen eighty a
nineteen seventies technology, not armor piercing nineteen seventies technology, thirty
(36:55):
of them to take down the third facility. And then
because the whole time this entire thing was about regime change,
it was Nnyahu's government going for regime change. It's clear.
It's clear as day. And of course you heard Lindsay
(37:15):
Graham here, so they they're pushing he could. We gave
him the whole forty minutes. What do he finished with?
He culminates with, we need regime change. Well, hey, if
the Persian people want regime change, have it. Until in
fact that, in fact that until the cease fire, we
were saying, hey, with the Israelis, go for it.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
If you want regime change, you hit it. Baby.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
You're trying to do but steel day here, so you're
bombing the prison, you're bombing the headquarters.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Is good, go for it.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
But when President Trump stops the steps in the middle
of it, says I've seen enough. The twelve day War
is over. That's from him. He actually named the war,
and he stopped it on the twelfth day. He didn't
add a thirteenth day or fourteenth day. He didn't call
it the fifteen day war because to him.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's not. And you have the gall.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
Particularly of what this guy did for you and the
grief he's taken over here. You had the gall when
he said, this is what I've done, and I need
you to be a partner. I need you to stand
down first, is why I can't stay. I can't stop
at all, which is another lie of the many lies
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we've gotten from the Netnyahu government, a bald faced lie.
But then he says, okay, I need you to stand there.
I can't have any scale if you can't get some
guys backs. Fine, goes to bed, gets a couple hours,
he wakes up, and you lie to him. That's why
he's furious. That's as mad as I've ever seen the
president of United States. And think about it, how did
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you get his anger like that? Given everything he's done
for you and the pressure he's under, and a couple
hours sleep and he's got in a freaking plain and
fly for what six eight hours to sit down with
this crowded NATO, which you know he just wildly enthusiastic
about doing that, and plus putting so going in the
air at a time when you're in a shooting conflict
in the world, putting his life at risk to do that,
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and this is the what he gets, this is the
thanks he gets. Don't so don't sit there and don't
glazing Ninya who goes on Israel TIV and glazes, don't glazing,
don't slobber all over him. It doesn't mean anything. You
showed what you really thought of him last night. Oh,
President Trump's the greatest. You showed exactly your appreciation last night.
(39:30):
You showed exactly. And do I see any of the
bag Dad Bob equivalents, the Tel Aviv Levins, or any
of this crowd today calling him out. They never call
that nya who who got Israel into this? And for
supporters of Israel, which is kind of on the ropes
about this makes it very hard when someone when your
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top guy's dealing from the bottom of the deck and
is not straight and in fact notine, not straight, is
a bald faced liar.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
If you support Israel and you love Israel and.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
You want to see Israel not just survive but thrive,
you better be asking hard questions.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You better be asking hard questions.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
You better be asking hard questions and demanding straight answers.
Short break, We rejoice, moistic dolls.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Here's your host, Stephen k back.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
Okay, this morning, we're trying to get down. Senator Hawley's going.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
To join us.
Speaker 9 (40:41):
We also, may I hopefully have Senator ram Paul later
a match Slap's going to join us.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Also.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
We're going to focus on we're getting back and focus
on what we need to focus on some other issues
besides the issue that we've dealt with in the first hour,
because we're not gonna let ourselves be totally sucked in
to other people's issues and other parts of the world,
particularly in New York City. I think you're seeing some
of the politics that this play out. Unfortunately, you know,
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New York City is about to potentially get a mayor.
It's election days to day, and it could be a
little dicey there. Jackie Torborov, one of the firebrands from
up there, one of the moms are making things happen
in Manhattan, is going to join us in the second
part of the show to talk to him how it's going.
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But you've got a a I would say, a radical,
hottiest right or a radical. He's also a socialist. I
think that's the least part of the problems. And he
could be Cuomo today or come close or you know.
And I think the Working People's Party, which is essentially
with the Demo, with the was the Democrats Socialist have
(41:53):
kind of I'm not saying merge together but at least
in combined a campaign, and nobody's paid attention to it
because Cuomo is in a real race and you've got
his hardcore.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
These are hardcore.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
They make Letitia James in that crowd look like look
like Upper East Side liberal fashioned liberals. This is hardcore.
What's happened in New York City and nobody's paying attention
to it. I think I think some of what we're
seeing over the last couple of weeks is.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Playing out here and that's going to be a big problem.
Speaker 9 (42:25):
That is going to be a big problem because now
you have these You've got the Chicago situation, you have
Bass in La.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Look at what you got going on here.
Speaker 9 (42:33):
You've got these radicals running sanctuary cities. So it's incredible.
But we have Senator Hawley joins us. Santra Holly, thank
you very much for joining us. I know we have
limited time. I think we can hold you through the
break for a couple of minutes. I realized you got
to go, But first, can you give us your overview.
President Trump has put a ceasefire in already both iron
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but really Israel went against what he said to do
and try to, you know, laying to people. He's very
upset this morning. What's your assessment of where we stand
there and what do you think is the best direction forward.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
Well, I think the ceasefire is a huge achievement on
the President's part. I can understand why he's irritated. I
think the challenge now is going to get to have
both sides, is going to be to get both sides
to honor that ceasefire. And I think the longer term
thing Steve now for us is to get to a
position in the region with a ran specifically where we
could re establish de terrence, but where we could draw
down our presence. I mean, we need to not lose
(43:29):
sight here of our overall goal, which is that we
need to have less presence in the Middle East, less
presence in Central Command. We built up a lot of
force there just in the last two weeks. I can
see why the President did that, but this is not
a sustainable posture for US. I mean, this is part
of what the President ran on is that we're not
going to be the world's policeman in every single region.
(43:50):
That means we've got to empower our allies like Israel
in the region. But our goal ought to be we
should draw down our troops, draw down our forces. We
need to move some of those people will out bring
them home. So I think we've got to get to
a position where we can do that. I mean, that's
got to be our goal here. I think the president
of getting a ceasefire is a big deal. Obviously, getting
a ram back into his box is a good deal.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
But I think we've got some work to do.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
He would like to be sitting down with you guys
today to work through the issues of medicaid and the
big beautiful build. There's still so much work to do,
and the spending. But he's in NATO. They've committed to
five percent. But he's got the whole situation in the Ukraine.
Ukraine's now saying that we need forty billion a year.
That's Zelenski's ask, I think from yesterday, and you have
the situation in the Middle East to do the draw down.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
What would be your.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
Guidance to the president and looking at all of it,
the whole kind of emerging kinetic part of the Third
World War, with now two million casualties in Ukraine and
the Europeans still beholden to the Americans, what's your sense
of the drawdown or the refocus all over the place, sir.
Speaker 10 (44:56):
Yeah, we've got to get the Europeans to pay their
fair share of NATO. The President's absolutely right about this,
and the truth is they've been samdbagging on us for years, Steve,
I mean just for years.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
They haven't been meeting.
Speaker 10 (45:05):
They're two percent two and a half percent target, which
is not hard to do. So every single NATO nation
needs to spend more on their own defense and they
need to contribute more to the alliance. And we need
to say to them, Steve, it's tiving to have tough
conversation with them, but we need to tell the truth,
which is it. Look, guys, you're going to actually have
to step up and take the lead in the defense
of Europe. You are Europeans, this is your continent, and
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we have an alliance. Absolutely, but we need to do
this thing called burden sharing. And right now we got
a lot of challenges. We've got a southern border that's
absolutely out of control. You could see that every single day.
The President. We've got military on the border because we
have to in order to keep it under control. We've
got China to deal with over in the Indo Pacific.
No nation, but US can deal with China, we can't
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also be policing Europe and taking the lead on Europe
and having the Europeans just sort of hang onto our coattails.
So the Europeans have got to actually spend a substantial
amount of money in their own defense. I think that's
got to be the clear, unequivocal message, and I think
the President will deliver it him and he's talked about
this before. I hope he makes it clear to him
that this is not the time to hang back and
(46:10):
say all the United States will fix it, The United
States will fix it. No, the Europeans need to actually
take some responsibility here, and that begins with spending more
and taking the lead in defense of the European continent.
Speaker 9 (46:23):
So he's out of pocket, you know, heading over there
and be going for a couple of days. Where do
we say Last time we left you, you said, hey,
I think we can make I think we could make
the for July on his desk one just on timing,
and then we're going to go to break and come
back and ask some specifics about medicaiting, other issues AI
you're working on, but just on a timing and process.
(46:44):
Do you still see the July fourth as a time
that it would actually be on the desk of the
President of United States to sign.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I think it can be.
Speaker 10 (46:53):
I mean, I think the president's right to say we
need to go on this thing. I think the longer
that you wait, the worse that it gets. I think
the more people did and the more stuff they start
slipping in there, Steve, I mean, the more it's like, oh, well,
I want this thing. You know, we already talked about
the green new scam, which the President called out over
the weekend, the Green new scam tax credits all of
a sudden popping up again in the Senate bill. I mean,
what the heck. So I think the President's right, we
(47:15):
need to get this thing done. So let's push, push, push,
and we need to make sure that the Senate gets
onto the same page with the President and the House.
The President negotiated that House deal. We need to hew
as closely as we can to the House deal that
includes on rural hospital Steve's for sure includes that on
the green new scam. We ought to be phasing those
things out, those subsidies. I mean, I think we got
(47:36):
to go cold turkey on or be honest, let's that's
all Biden stuff. Let's get rid of all of that stuff,
cut it all out, and then let's get this thing
to the President's desk. I'm not in favor of further delay.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Here, Senator Johnson always going to stick with us.
Speaker 9 (47:48):
A few minutes to a ninety second commercial break the
President of these United States had his back one percent.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
He can THEVIC on a true social saying hey, I
want to get rid. I don't even know why we're
talking about this. The whole thing goes a whole green
new scam.
Speaker 9 (48:04):
Senator Josh Hawley defenders of Royal Hospitals making sure that
the Medicaid is actually appropriated correctly, Artificial intelligence, all of it.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Short commercial break back in a moment
And again I don't want to say this will be
the consequence. We need to understand what's really happened here
is that we used to have tabs on that in raiseranium.
We had inspectors, We had a program and a regime
to go look at that and have the spot inspections
to make sure that was not being pursued toward a
nuclear weapon capability.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
If we've lost sight of that and.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Lost track of that, there's are real question as to
how stronger hand really is in terms of Iranian's ability
to pursue that further.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And the question for me now, and I think for.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All of us, is will this cease fire shouldn't hold?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And I think we all hope that it will.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Will that lead us to a diplomatic channel that's truly fruitful.
We got to get back to that situation because a
military only conflict only empowers the worst actors in Iran
and makes it far more I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
But I'm not happy that Israel's going out now. There
was one rocket that I guess was fired overboard, it
was after the time limit and admits it's dogged. And
now Asriel's going out, these guys got to calm down.
I didn't like plenty of things I saw yesterday. I
didn't like the fact that Israel it right there, they
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didn't have to unload, and I didn't like the fact
that the retaliation was very strong. But in all fairness,
Israel unloaded a lot. And now I hear Isua just
went out because they felt it was violated by one
rocket that didn't land anywhere. That's not what we want,
I'll tell you, and I'm telling you I'm not happy
about that Israel either. That place is demolished. The B
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two pilots did their job. They did it better than
anybody could even imagine. They hit late in the evening,
it was dark with no moon, and they hit that
target with every one of those things, and that place
is gone. But when I see CNN all night long,
they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as
demolished as we thought it was demolish. That you take
(01:53):
a look at the pinpricks and you see that place
is gone. And I was saying, I think CNN or
to a powerologize to the pilots of the V two's.
I think that MSD and CEO to apologize. I think
these guys. Really, these networks are these cable networks are
real losers? You really are, You're real, your gutless losers.
(02:19):
I say that the CNN because I watch it. I
have no choice. I gotta watch it all fakes. But
I think CNN is a gutless group of people and
the people that run it. Nobody even knows who's been
sold so many times, but the people that are run
it over to be ashamed. MSD and C. A guy
named Brian Roberts. He heads it. He's a disgrace. He's
(02:40):
a weak, pathetic, disgrace.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Wrong, violent in the war room.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
He actually reminds me of that guy in Deliverance. Who
is that guy in Deliverance? Baby? What was his name?
Can you google that? Well, I'm talking to you, mister producer. Okay,
that just looked that. That's who he really reminds me of.
Except his hair is longer, you know, he looks like
a hippie. But nonetheless, nonetheless, while he's picking on Kaylee mcanenny,
(03:11):
who's in that suite, who's a sweetheart because he doesn't
like her opinion, Marjorie Tayler Green has to be one
of the dumbest people to ever serve in the House
of Representatives. This stupidity that comes out of that woman's
mouth is it's hard to imagine the Iranians didn't kill
(03:32):
any Americans. Just stupid, which is.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Why they want to promote her or.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Katarlson on a day like this, shouldn't he be praising
the president and the Prime Minister of Israel for what
they've achieved. No, he praises katar hence his name Katarlson.
Then we have Matt Gates, who's really destroyed his career,
destroyed himself.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But what expect, No wonder he didn't want that report
to go out.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
This guy is officially certified one of the biggest perverts
in my humble opinion, just my opinion. I went back
and looked Holy Macro. Wow, just a very strange group.
Great piece by rich Lowry Nash, reviewed by this guy,
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Dave Smith, a comic, got to check that out. So
they're there. But here's the thing. There are millions and
millions of you. There are hundreds, if not thousands, or
brilliant writers and commentators who lay out the case for
(04:44):
freedom and the constitution, for our own countries, national security,
for border security. I bring them to you often, whether
it's on this program, on television or on Blaze, rational people,
not grifters, not slogan ears, morons, and worse. That's what
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we do here. We don't call our show the war
room the war room. We don't praise Qatar today. We
praise the American military and our commander in chief and
our allies, the Prime Minister of Israel and the Israeli military,
(05:29):
a fantastic alliance that has achieved an enormous, enormous amount
in twelve days. You know who knows this, President Trump?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He knows this.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
After the Iranian attack on the US Basin Cutter, which
is right here, do you expect the US personnel, US
interests or at any risk in the region.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Probably not.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
The United States likely saw those missiles on the pad
before they've even launched, and came at them. We understand
that they gave us a heads up as they were coming.
I mean, it's kind of you know, missile theater, kabuki theater,
and it's just it's just crazy. I'm not of the
mindset that we should be accepting missile attacks from any
country regardless. I think there's so many unintended consequences that
can happen, but we let it happen. As you know
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the Middle East, that is how it goes. But from
this point going forward, I'm not so sure that Iran
will target US forces.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
And again, you know this is this is where this
is some footage right now from inside Israel of what's
been hit in Israel. This is in the southern part
of the country where there were casualties and people killed there.
What are you looking for in the next few hours here?
Speaker 7 (06:32):
So again, Israel has been going after regime centers of gravity.
They've been going after police forces and Republican guard units.
Why because they know if there is regime change, those
are the units that will control the crowds. So Israel's
not looking to stop. They i think want regime change,
and so from their perspective, if they go after those
targets like they've been going after before, that's what they
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want to do.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Ron violated the agreements. Do you believe that Iran.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Supe I do?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
They violated, But Israel violated it too. Israel, as soon
as we made the deal, they came out and they
dropped the load of bobs the likes of which I've
never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm
not happy with Israel. You know, when I say okay,
now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in
the first hour and just drop everything you have on them.
(07:23):
So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with
Iron either, But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out
this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that
was shot perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not
happy about that. What we have, we basically have two
countries that have been fighting so long and so hard
(07:44):
that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do
you understand that.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
This is the primal screen of a dying regime.
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 9 (08:07):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 10 (08:17):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Mega media?
Speaker 7 (08:22):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Worry. He's your host, Stephen.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
K ma.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's Tuesday twenty four, Junie.
Speaker 9 (08:45):
You're a Rolert twenty twenty five boy, Tel Aviv, live
in Tel Aviv, live in is He's big mad.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh, he's big mad, big meg.
Speaker 9 (08:56):
Because he didn't as a as a spokesperson and as
a spokesmodel for a foreign nation, they didn't get what
they want President Trump, and saw you saw hy Bb
can't be trusted.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That you know who can't be trusted?
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Yesterday they took the This cease fire was as much
to save Israel. That's the hidden story here. They bid
off way more than they could chew. They were played
out as far as yesterday was a brutal day for
the citizens of Israel. Took horrible incomings, particularly in Tel Aviv,
and I guess Bersheba also they needed this because they
were running a defensive ammunition and President Trump stepped.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
In there with the help of Qatar.
Speaker 9 (09:35):
Look, you know, we can't We've come a long way
since seven years ago when Qatar, you know, would not
work with us. On stopping the financing of Islamic terrorism,
the financing of it, and they come a long way.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
They've stepped in the middle.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
Of the situation in Gaza, and they stepped in the
middle here. And President Trump is going his way to
praise him, and he's not going to have his way
to praise net Yehu's government, which I think. I think
he's getting to be an issue when President Trump puts
out the kind of true socials he's put out today,
target you know, focus on the net Yahoo government. You
ought to take those as a papal bull. He's tired
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of it, He's tired of the nonsense. There's not going
to be regime change. Your whole strategy for this, which
was regime change from the very beginning. If it happens,
is going to be the Persian people that do it,
which should be the way to go. And I'm not
the Iya Tolas are as bad as they get. Mark
Caputo from Access you join us. You're reporting on this
has been pretty extraordinary. Can you talked this morning about
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particularly this phone call which I think you're the only
person reporting it is this phone call with between the
President of the United States in net Yahoo well.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
In fairness others have And from what we were told
by senior administration officials is and they said us in
diplomatic language on background that Trump called and relieved his
concerns in very strong terms, and that Prime Minister and
Yahoo said he understood those concerns.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Now, when I spoke.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
To one of my sources who I'm trying to make
sure to protect him, called him a Trump advisor and said, boy,
it sounded like BB got a ripped by Donald Trump.
They said, yeah, pretty much. Now you saw and you've
seen Donald Trump angry. You've been in private rooms with him.
(11:23):
You know what that's like. So I would imagine that
ride on that Marine one helicopter after Trump departed the
White House was probably one of those situations where aids
are just going to stay away from the President and
make sure he cools off because his blood was up.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And I think.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
You've been on this beat for a long time. I've
never seen the President that mad. I've never seen that
man to drop an F bomb like that. I've never
seen the way he's addressing net Yahoo. He's furious because
he's put it all on the line. He got he
worked and had to work with Kutar. They and this
was to save Israel. Netniahu jeopardized israe on the people
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of Israel. They're the ones taking the big in Cummings tomorrow.
Pursis one hundred million people. It's three times the size
of Texas. They can take a lot of beating Israel's tiny.
It's a strip of land on the sea and nine
million people they're taking and and and the dome ain't working.
I mean they're running out of ammo. I'm not saying
it's not working. The it's got too many ballistic missiles
coming at him. President Trump did that for him and
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his government. And now they're trying to and now they're
trying to get in every lick they can possibly get.
And Trump's not going to have it. He doesn't play
that way. He said, you know, his big thing is
no games. I mean, you've seen him Mark, Have you
ever seen this?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Mad? I have not seen him this, Mad. I mean,
he was infuriated. As I said, I don't.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Endy anyone being on that marine one helicopter ride with him.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Afterward.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
However, it appears that it was a message delivered and
message accepted. But this is the Middle East. It's difficult
to stop people from killing each other when they want
to kill each other. And if Trump pulls this off,
if this happens, it's going to be quite a few.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
No, he's put it all on the line here. Mark Kaputo,
your reporting is incredible. If you would stick around, I appreciate.
Hold you for another block. Mark Computo Ha actually had
about the phone conversation with nt Yahoo this morning. President
Trump's been working all night. You could tell I think
you're supposed to leave at five o'clock. I don't think
he left the six forty five. President Trump's not one
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to delay getting He's going to NATO with a whole
other can of worms about Ukraine and Russia and all
of it. Of course, NATO has agreed to five percent
of their GDP.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Think about that. We couldn't get these.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Guys to two percent that they had committed to in
the first term.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Now it's a cheery.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
I think the only outlier of Spain, and they're putting
Spain on some special program.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Make sure you check it out today.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Time with turbulence, the bricks nations are getting together, the
Global South, the Persians being part of that, around being
part of that because they're a huge supplier of oil
to the Chinese.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
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Speaker 9 (14:00):
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Speaker 3 (14:07):
Also talked to Philip Patrick and the team.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
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Speaker 3 (14:16):
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Speaker 9 (14:19):
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Speaker 3 (14:24):
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Speaker 9 (14:26):
Mark Caputo from Axios Next America.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
We're long violated there the by agreement. Do you will
need that a run for we need to see it, Yeah,
I do. They violated, But Israel violated it too. Israel
as soon as we made the deal, they came out
and they dropped the load of bobs, the likes of
which I've never seen before, the biggest load that we've seen.
I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay,
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now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in
the first just drop everything you have on him. So
I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iron either,
but I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning
because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot
perhaps by mistake that didn't land. I'm not happy about that.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
President Trump furious about this day all you know, he's
not going to get involved in this thing.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
That's why he did one and done.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
Did the military strike one and done obliterated. Of course
the day they're going to they're.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Up on the hill. We're going to find out.
Speaker 9 (15:32):
We need to find out about this intelligence, about why
it was so urgent, why Ratcliffe and the CIA was
making the case against all the other intelligence groups, why
it was so urgent it had to be last Thursday.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
And I think the other question's got to.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
Be when we went in and did the bombing, why
do we have to do Tomahawks said the third site
was above ground, Why why was that not taken out?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Because here's what it looks like.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
It looks like the Israeli did nothing at all about
the nuclear bomb making capability of the Persians, the reason
their entire objective from the first night. What we say
here on the show on Friday looked like a decapitation
not of the religious leadership, but certainly of the military
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high command, including the people that President Trump was negotiating
with Steve Wickcoff's negotia. When it turns out later maybe
they didn't get all of them, but at least on
that Friday morning, they didn't have any Nobody was taking
phone calls for the Sunday meeting. We need to get
to the bottom of all that for the good of
the country, Markaputo, I want to go back. This is
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pretty President Trump working onstop because he's not going to
get involved in regime change. If that's going to happen,
the Persian people are going to have to do it.
He's not going to get involved in regime change. He's
not going to get involved and tied up in some
long protracted conflict. He got to cease fire. He basically said, hey,
it's a twelve day war. It will be called the
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twelve Day War, right. He gave a name to it,
and he worked with the Guitaris and I'm sure some
other people behind the scenes to lay out the framework
and say, you know, guys, work it out. And yet
Netnyahu's government immediately tries to take an edge and tries
to game President Trump. That's not the way. He does
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not respond well to that. Do you think, sir, Well.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Obviously he didn't.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
At the same time, what do you expect if you're
going to say everyone is going to agree to a
cease fire in a few hours. Well, you know, human
nature responds to deadlines by waiting up until the last
minute to finish the job. And the best available evidence
indicates that in Israel's mind there was a lot more
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of the job to be finished. And my colleague at
Axos Barakravid had reported that last night in a conversation
between Trump and Yahoo, Trump told him you got to
scale back the attacks. You can't go full boar here,
and you got to call it off. And apparently Nan
Yahoo told him, well, I can't call everybody off for
whatever reason, but I'll scale it back.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So at least as of last.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
Night, Trump's understanding was this was going to be a
scaled back attack. This morning, Trump wakes up, looks at
the media, looks at social media. He sees that there
was a lot more firing than he wanted, and he
blew a stack, as we just saw there on the lawn.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
Because Nanya, who lied to him to be blunt, he
lied to him first of you should be able to
call it all off the president United States, that's put
everything on the line and actually went out and took
out the nuclear that you knew you had to do
at the beginning, and you didn't have the resources to
do it, and you knew that, which is obvious. In fact,
(18:53):
you needed the Tomahawk missiles to take down the third one.
When President Trump says, hey, I want it knocked off,
you knock it off. But then if you say, oh, well,
I can't call everybody back, why why can't you call
him back? But if you can't, he says, scale it back.
And President Trump gets up in the morning after only
a couple hours sleep to get on a dawn launched
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to NATO, and he sees all over the world that
you pulverize these people.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
He's gonna get upset.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
And that's why you've seen him this morning, as mad
as I've ever seen him, Mark Capudo.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Indeed, Donald Trump does want peace in the Middle East.
One of the things you'd never want to ask Donald
Trump about as a reporter is his legacy, because if
you start asking him that in his ear, in his mind,
you're basically asking him when do you become irrelevant? However,
that having been said, Donald Trump is thinking about his
legacy and what he wants. And this is according to
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all the aids I've spoken to, and just my observation
of him is he wants to go out as the
guy who brought peace to the Middle East and peace
to Ukraine in the Russian invasion. So that's how he
wants to be remembered, at least when it comes to
foreign policy. Obviously, his America First domestic policy is well
worn and well understood, but it's important to understand the
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mindset of Donald Trump. He has a lot riding on this,
I think, as you said.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And when he.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Pardoned the pund not intended sort of shot out of
the cannon quickly and set on truth social on social
media yesterday, Hey we've got to cease fire between Iran
and Israel. He said that because he thought he had
an agreement between the two parties, and so when he
sees bombs and missiles going off, it's going to piss
him off.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Markapudo, where's your reporting going on this? You're all over
the White House. You obviously didn't take the trip to NATO.
President Trump's going to go over there. He's got a
whole another set of issues over there. In the Ukraine.
He wants to get the Russian rough prochment done in
this negotiation, wants them to lay down.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Their guns there.
Speaker 9 (20:51):
And since that's not on the front page every day,
they're getting pounded. Of course, Lensky's asked for forty billion dollars,
which I don't think is in the big beautiful bill
where's your reporting going on covering the entire Third World War?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Well, speaking of Zelensky and Ukraine is and I don't
know how many billions it is, but the money that's
been appropriated for the Ukraine War, the invasion of Russia
or whatever we're going to call it, there's still money
sitting around. And they call it presidential drawdown authority. The
president of the United States has the ability to send
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more billions of dollars already appropherty.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
A Congress over to Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Now, the question I have, and one of the things
I want to know, is if Iran looks as successful
as it does currently and if that remains, how does
it strengthen President Trump's hand to bring peace to Ukraine.
And that's sort of the big unanswered question. And Donald
Trump is a guy who you said to Zelenski in
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that famous White House meeting where he sort of blew
his stack at Zelenski as well, he thinks in terms
of what cards you have to play, well, that money
to arm Ukraine to help it wage its war or
its defense against the Russian invasion is a card to
play against Putin. Putin has lost a lot of I
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don't want to say he's lost an ally, but Iran's
ability to be a menacing, hyper threatening force in the
Middle East has been attenuate. Iran supplies Russia with a
lot of the drones it's been using for attacks, and
it's an open question as to just how much this
has strengthened Trump's hands going forward and how much it's
weakened Putin's. I don't know the answer to that, and
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that's something I'd like to find out.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Markaputa, Where do people get you on social media? And
where they get you at Axios?
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Mainly have Twitter, Mark a Kapudo, Mark with a C
and axios dot Com easy to find and sometimes perhaps
too often for my boss's tastes, reply to tweets, so
you can certainly find me on x.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Thank you very much, marka Puda, great reporting as usual.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
On the other stream, we've got Matt Boyle. Edward Breitbart
is doing a special today with the.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Cabinet.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
He's doing a series of cabinet interviews with cabinet officials
at these events he's putting on and are the Briightbart
guys are putting on. And we've got that. Grace has
got that. If you want to dip in and out
of that, or we'll save it so you see it later.
But it's live streaming right now. The Secretary Energy. Let's
get back to the situation President Trump. And this is
right now, I think starting shortly are closed door briefings
(23:34):
by Tulsey, Gabbard, d and I in Ratcliffe. We have
to get a full accounting of what's going on here
because the Netanyahu government is out of control. You saw
this point blank. President Trump bent over backwards, moved heaven
and earth to get this thing sorted. Called it the
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twelve day war. He couldn't have been clear. It's the
end of the twelve day war. When President Trump gets involved.
When President Trump puts out these true socials saying things
or ended, you should take it like a papal bull.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
It's a fact.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Number one on the on the hearings I think we
got to hear from Ratcliffe. We still have no visibility
on what this special intelligence was and where it came
from that drove the Thursday night Friday morning attack.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
We need to find that out.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
We need to know who is the source of that,
what did it mean, and what did they say about
having a weapon that could be used like immediately or
very quickly, so that you had to go immediately to
draw President Trump into this, the United States into this.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's still very unclear number one.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Number two, we have to ask some pointy questions, particularly
why did you have to come for us to take
out the entire bomb making nuclear apparatus, including the above
ground that we had to hit with Tomahawk missiles. Why
did you appears that you didn't do any to sort
that out. Number three, you're planning to defend your own citizens.
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Why did you have to come to us immediately? And
I'm telling you yesterday President Trump did that for Israel.
Israel was getting pounded Netnyah, who basically bid off way
more than can choose, thinking that he could get as
drawn into a major war and it's not happening. And
President Trump did. The military operation was absolutely magnificent. And
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pulled off and, as President Trump said, obliterated their nuclear
bomb making capability. I think it's now time to get
the facts, and particularly the facts about Netnyah, who's government.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Which is not supportive of President Trump.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
President Trump, when he has a conversation with a guy
who he's getting a couple of hours of sleep after
bringing to a conclusion what he's called the twelve Day War,
to get on a plane to go deal with the
Ukraine and NATO, he's got to get up at five
in the morning. I think he gets two or three
hours of sleep. He tells you on the phone, I
want this thing stood down. And he gets up and
he sees that you lied to him, and in fact,
(26:09):
you went even further of what he told you not
to do.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Now that's not being an ally. Of course, you're not
an ally.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
You're a protectorate, and protectorates are not supposed to act
like that. We need to get to the bottom of this,
regardless of the communications propaganda channel over at Fox.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
We need facts.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Here's your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
We have a third World war that's already here. Of
the kinetic part. President Trump is heading into talk to
the NATO guys and I talk about opportunity costs. He
has spent NonStop on this war, NonStop as commander in chief,
organizing all of it. And think about this, he's got
to not just cut the deal on the big beautiful bill,
which is enormously complex when you look at all the
(27:00):
different aspects. So he's got to whip the vote. He's
the whip. He's the House whip and the Senate whip.
And oh, by the way, the invasion on the southern
border and the Stephen Miller is getting more airtime on
Fox and other places, is really the most important front
of the Third World War. Now, why are like tel Aviv,
(27:22):
Livin and all these guys, so, why are they so
apoplectic because we defeated them they wanted and you saw
them say, you can't.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Talk to the Persians any we can't talk to the
ratings anymore. You can't do you know, it's time to
overthrow all that. You heard Lindsay Grant. We gave Lindsay
forty minutes on the show yesterday. You heard it.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
We wanted to be with no filter. Let the American
people hear it, and you laughed.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
It's a joke. Ovin. They're all a joke.
Speaker 9 (27:49):
And of course at Fox there they're a mouthpiece and
a propaganda arm for a foreign government. And you have
to weigh and measure this. But President Trump's way to
measure it. What do you do? He came out exactly
what America for US is non interventionists. He took care
of what he thought the immediate problem was what he
(28:09):
was told was the media problem. And he is committed
to over a decade. Hey, they're not going to have
a nuclear bomb making capability. And besides the tea's over
the weekend, he was adamant about this. And I mean
he's put out a number of tweets, he's put out people.
The Walter Bloomberg's got quoted is no regime change. The
(28:30):
iatolas are as bad as they get. But we live
in a world of bad own brace in Levin and
these guys talking about a thousand guys, Yes, the Marines
that didn't that were killed and slaughtered back when we
think in nineteen eighty three, that were never avenged, and
we never really got them their money, right, never got
(28:51):
the families, the money from the Persians from hesblow in
the crowd, yes, and the ones in Iraq. But that's
because that's because Levin and that crowd are the same
crowd that beat the war toxins, Mark Thesens, all of
them beat the war toxins. For the war criminal Chainey,
He's a war criminal. Because this wasn't a misinterpretation of intelligence.
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They bald faced lied. This wasn't some people make mistakes,
governments make mistakes. That was a lie to put Americans
in harm way for their own internal what they wanted
to achieve.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That they were never straightforward to the American people.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
That same crowd there running the same exact playbook and
including the upsell the sense of urgency, and then the
upsell the sense of urgency and then the upsell. And
President Trump savvy, not gonna be upsold. He put it
to bed. He said, no, the Twelve Day War is over.
You've had two important wars in the formation of israel I.
(29:52):
Remember as a paperboy, at least the first thing you had,
you had the sixty seven War, and then you had
the Six Day War.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
He had the seventy three war. He had the yam
Kapur War.
Speaker 9 (30:02):
Of which they were both they were undersneak, attack right
and beat back.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Right.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
The Arab armies the combined Arab armies. And President Trump's
not going to get We're not going to get engaged
again at that level. You're not going to You're not
going to get into a war in Persia, another forever war.
He put a kebash on it, the hardest pitch they
made because this was all about regime change from the beginning.
Make sure you understand that this was always about regime change.
(30:31):
This is why they had to decapitate. Where were they
here on Friday that morning? Decapitation of their senior military command.
And to know that they never touched, they never touched
the nuclear capabilities of all, including the above ground, with
all the air supremacy they had, because that was the
hook for the Americans. President Trump did his duty as
(30:54):
commander in chief. He took it out the immediately got
the threat. And now I wanted the investigation has got
to be what that intelligence that made it so urgent,
because I think it's going to shock you and the source?
And where's the ballistic missile capability that made us so
immediate that you had to go last Thursday? Given everything else,
President Trump has in this plate and this nation has
(31:15):
on this plate, and quite frankly Israel and trying to
finish the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas franchisee in Gaza. Is it
a way that you treat what happened last night? And
I have preached this from the beginning. They're not trustworthy.
The net Nyahoo crowd is not trustworthy. They're not worthy
(31:37):
of our trust. They're not worthy of our trust, and
last night showed it in living color.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Don't ask me.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Ask a guy named Donald Trump, Commander in Chief of
the American Armed Forces and President of these United States,
before he goes to bed to have a phone call.
I don't want We're not You're not going to gain this.
I want everybody put it down. Well, I can't stop everybody,
but Trump says, hey on scale, I want to stop now.
I don't buy you can't stop everybody. I don't buy it.
(32:07):
But even that he said, scale it back. When he
wakes up, you didn't do it, and you hit you
with both barrels this morning. And when you're a protectorate,
you better act like a protectorate. When the guy this
got jered, particularly after yesterday he did this. This was
not done just for the Persians, Theia Persia's three times
(32:30):
the signs of Texas and God, I don't know, ninety
one hundred million people, it's huge in forbidding. I think
Tel Aviv Tehran's got with nine or ten million people,
and they're good.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
They're hitting it. Yesterday, they're doing the still day.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
They're bombing the prison, they're bombing the Revolutionary Guards headquarter.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Is good, good on you.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
But now when President Trump works and comes out with
a ceasefire of which you had come to him because
you're taking such intense income. I think they took down
a city lock in Tel Aviv. I'm not quite sure
that everybody's seeing what's happening in Telviy. The citizens of
Israel are getting pounded, pounded, pounded. And this is with
US coming in as air defense, with not just the
(33:14):
Arly Burke class and the destroies and friggates in the
Eastern med everywhere, and they're running out of they're running
out of they're running out of anti missile and anti aircraft,
anti air they're running out of air defense missiles, running
out like it's not that I don't think we can
even supply him. He bit off more than the intrudance.
(33:36):
He could not finish what he started. He could not
finish what he started, and they have not been trustworthy
and last night showed it. Oh, Bennon, you're so hard,
But just look at the facts of last night and
look at the pressure Trump's under. How much sleep is Trump?
President Trump getting this guy get on a plane it
(34:00):
was supposed to be five in the morning. Guy a
plane supposedly five in the morning, and fly all the
way over to Europe and sit down with that crowd.
You saw how much he loved him in Calgary. He
couldn't wait to get out of there. They're a waste
of his time. Now today they're going to sit there
and go we're going up to five percent defense spending.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Think about that for a second.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
You talk about another protectorate Western Europe in the In
the first administration, first term, we were like supplicants to
ask him to get to two and we kind of
got blown off. A President Trump ain't gonna get blown
off for too long. He might blow him off at
the start, but he ain't gonna get blown off like
b B blow him off last night. B B blow
him off. I would not blow President Trump off. I
(34:42):
don't think that's productive. The European's blow him off. Now
they're five percent. He's gonna go over there. He's got
to figure out this situation in Ukraine to stop the
other part, the bloodiest part of the Third World War.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Two million and a million on each side.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
And that's coming from both Ian Bremmer and British newspapers.
As President Trump says, I think the Ukraine numbers a
lot higher. They're not exactly coming up with real numbers
all the time because they got a problem. They got
a demographic problem with people leaving the country. Big report
of young women leaving and young men. The parents don't
want them into you know, they don't even have a draft,
(35:18):
don't want him in the military.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Plus and Lindsay's coming back. He needs another forty bay
in the year.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
He says, I'm not so sure that's totally in the
big beautiful bill. But President Trump has said that the
twelve Day War is over. So Lindsey Graham and tel
Aviv Levin and all that crowded Fox and all that
chest beating, if the Persian people want to do it, it's
(35:44):
up to them, and that's the way you get regime change.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Let them do it.
Speaker 9 (35:49):
If they've had a belly full of it, they've had
a belly full of let them do it. This is
the way you get change, and the United States doesn't
get in the middle of it and not drawn into
another forever war. He's not going to be drawn into
a forever war. He did his duty. He did his duty.
And it might add that the Netnyahu government started a
(36:11):
war knowing that they couldn't do anything on what they
said was the highest priority was the nuclear capability. Then
they said the ballistic missile that I don't know. I
think I suppose they've done a good job on that somewhat,
but they're still taking incoming like nobody can believe. There's
still Israeli citizens getting pounded. They're taking blocks and apartment
(36:31):
buildings down in Tel Aviv. But the first strategic what
you said, was the war about you did nothing. Hence
not just the bunker busters, don't lose, don't don't miss
the tell, the tells, the Tomahawks a nineteen eighty a
nineteen seventies technology, not armor piercing nineteen seventies technology, thirty
(36:55):
of them to take down the third facility. And then
because the whole time this entire thing was about regime change,
it was Nnyahu's government going for regime change. It's clear.
It's clear as day. And of course you heard Lindsay
(37:15):
Graham here, so they they're pushing he could. We gave
him the whole forty minutes. What do he finished with?
He culminates with, we need regime change. Well, hey, if
the Persian people want regime change, have it. Until in
fact that, in fact that until the cease fire, we
were saying, hey, with the Israelis, go for it.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
If you want regime change, you hit it. Baby.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
You're trying to do but steel day here, so you're
bombing the prison, you're bombing the headquarters.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Is good, go for it.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
But when President Trump stops the steps in the middle
of it, says I've seen enough. The twelve day War
is over. That's from him. He actually named the war,
and he stopped it on the twelfth day. He didn't
add a thirteenth day or fourteenth day. He didn't call
it the fifteen day war because to him.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's not. And you have the gall.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
Particularly of what this guy did for you and the
grief he's taken over here. You had the gall when
he said, this is what I've done, and I need
you to be a partner. I need you to stand
down first, is why I can't stay. I can't stop
at all, which is another lie of the many lies
(38:23):
we've gotten from the Netnyahu government, a bald faced lie.
But then he says, okay, I need you to stand there.
I can't have any scale if you can't get some
guys backs. Fine, goes to bed, gets a couple hours,
he wakes up, and you lie to him. That's why
he's furious. That's as mad as I've ever seen the
president of United States. And think about it, how did
(38:44):
you get his anger like that? Given everything he's done
for you and the pressure he's under, and a couple
hours sleep and he's got in a freaking plain and
fly for what six eight hours to sit down with
this crowded NATO, which you know he just wildly enthusiastic
about doing that, and plus putting so going in the
air at a time when you're in a shooting conflict
in the world, putting his life at risk to do that,
(39:06):
and this is the what he gets, this is the
thanks he gets. Don't so don't sit there and don't
glazing Ninya who goes on Israel TIV and glazes, don't glazing,
don't slobber all over him. It doesn't mean anything. You
showed what you really thought of him last night. Oh,
President Trump's the greatest. You showed exactly your appreciation last night.
(39:30):
You showed exactly. And do I see any of the
bag Dad Bob equivalents, the Tel Aviv Levins, or any
of this crowd today calling him out. They never call
that nya who who got Israel into this? And for
supporters of Israel, which is kind of on the ropes
about this makes it very hard when someone when your
(39:56):
top guy's dealing from the bottom of the deck and
is not straight and in fact notine, not straight, is
a bald faced liar.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
If you support Israel and you love Israel and.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
You want to see Israel not just survive but thrive,
you better be asking hard questions.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
You better be asking hard questions.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
You better be asking hard questions and demanding straight answers.
Short break, We rejoice, moistic dolls.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Here's your host, Stephen k back.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
Okay, this morning, we're trying to get down. Senator Hawley's going.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
To join us.
Speaker 9 (40:41):
We also, may I hopefully have Senator ram Paul later
a match Slap's going to join us.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Also.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
We're going to focus on we're getting back and focus
on what we need to focus on some other issues
besides the issue that we've dealt with in the first hour,
because we're not gonna let ourselves be totally sucked in
to other people's issues and other parts of the world,
particularly in New York City. I think you're seeing some
of the politics that this play out. Unfortunately, you know,
(41:11):
New York City is about to potentially get a mayor.
It's election days to day, and it could be a
little dicey there. Jackie Torborov, one of the firebrands from
up there, one of the moms are making things happen
in Manhattan, is going to join us in the second
part of the show to talk to him how it's going.
(41:31):
But you've got a a I would say, a radical,
hottiest right or a radical. He's also a socialist. I
think that's the least part of the problems. And he
could be Cuomo today or come close or you know.
And I think the Working People's Party, which is essentially
with the Demo, with the was the Democrats Socialist have
(41:53):
kind of I'm not saying merge together but at least
in combined a campaign, and nobody's paid attention to it
because Cuomo is in a real race and you've got
his hardcore.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
These are hardcore.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
They make Letitia James in that crowd look like look
like Upper East Side liberal fashioned liberals. This is hardcore.
What's happened in New York City and nobody's paying attention
to it. I think I think some of what we're
seeing over the last couple of weeks is.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Playing out here and that's going to be a big problem.
Speaker 9 (42:25):
That is going to be a big problem because now
you have these You've got the Chicago situation, you have
Bass in La.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Look at what you got going on here.
Speaker 9 (42:33):
You've got these radicals running sanctuary cities. So it's incredible.
But we have Senator Hawley joins us. Santra Holly, thank
you very much for joining us. I know we have
limited time. I think we can hold you through the
break for a couple of minutes. I realized you got
to go, But first, can you give us your overview.
President Trump has put a ceasefire in already both iron
(42:56):
but really Israel went against what he said to do
and try to, you know, laying to people. He's very
upset this morning. What's your assessment of where we stand
there and what do you think is the best direction forward.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
Well, I think the ceasefire is a huge achievement on
the President's part. I can understand why he's irritated. I
think the challenge now is going to get to have
both sides, is going to be to get both sides
to honor that ceasefire. And I think the longer term
thing Steve now for us is to get to a
position in the region with a ran specifically where we
could re establish de terrence, but where we could draw
down our presence. I mean, we need to not lose
(43:29):
sight here of our overall goal, which is that we
need to have less presence in the Middle East, less
presence in Central Command. We built up a lot of
force there just in the last two weeks. I can
see why the President did that, but this is not
a sustainable posture for US. I mean, this is part
of what the President ran on is that we're not
going to be the world's policeman in every single region.
(43:50):
That means we've got to empower our allies like Israel
in the region. But our goal ought to be we
should draw down our troops, draw down our forces. We
need to move some of those people will out bring
them home. So I think we've got to get to
a position where we can do that. I mean, that's
got to be our goal here. I think the president
of getting a ceasefire is a big deal. Obviously, getting
a ram back into his box is a good deal.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
But I think we've got some work to do.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
He would like to be sitting down with you guys
today to work through the issues of medicaid and the
big beautiful build. There's still so much work to do,
and the spending. But he's in NATO. They've committed to
five percent. But he's got the whole situation in the Ukraine.
Ukraine's now saying that we need forty billion a year.
That's Zelenski's ask, I think from yesterday, and you have
the situation in the Middle East to do the draw down.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
What would be your.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
Guidance to the president and looking at all of it,
the whole kind of emerging kinetic part of the Third
World War, with now two million casualties in Ukraine and
the Europeans still beholden to the Americans, what's your sense
of the drawdown or the refocus all over the place, sir.
Speaker 10 (44:56):
Yeah, we've got to get the Europeans to pay their
fair share of NATO. The President's absolutely right about this,
and the truth is they've been samdbagging on us for years, Steve,
I mean just for years.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
They haven't been meeting.
Speaker 10 (45:05):
They're two percent two and a half percent target, which
is not hard to do. So every single NATO nation
needs to spend more on their own defense and they
need to contribute more to the alliance. And we need
to say to them, Steve, it's tiving to have tough
conversation with them, but we need to tell the truth,
which is it. Look, guys, you're going to actually have
to step up and take the lead in the defense
of Europe. You are Europeans, this is your continent, and
(45:29):
we have an alliance. Absolutely, but we need to do
this thing called burden sharing. And right now we got
a lot of challenges. We've got a southern border that's
absolutely out of control. You could see that every single day.
The President. We've got military on the border because we
have to in order to keep it under control. We've
got China to deal with over in the Indo Pacific.
No nation, but US can deal with China, we can't
(45:49):
also be policing Europe and taking the lead on Europe
and having the Europeans just sort of hang onto our coattails.
So the Europeans have got to actually spend a substantial
amount of money in their own defense. I think that's
got to be the clear, unequivocal message, and I think
the President will deliver it him and he's talked about
this before. I hope he makes it clear to him
that this is not the time to hang back and
(46:10):
say all the United States will fix it, The United
States will fix it. No, the Europeans need to actually
take some responsibility here, and that begins with spending more
and taking the lead in defense of the European continent.
Speaker 9 (46:23):
So he's out of pocket, you know, heading over there
and be going for a couple of days. Where do
we say Last time we left you, you said, hey,
I think we can make I think we could make
the for July on his desk one just on timing,
and then we're going to go to break and come
back and ask some specifics about medicaiting, other issues AI
you're working on, but just on a timing and process.
(46:44):
Do you still see the July fourth as a time
that it would actually be on the desk of the
President of United States to sign.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I think it can be.
Speaker 10 (46:53):
I mean, I think the president's right to say we
need to go on this thing. I think the longer
that you wait, the worse that it gets. I think
the more people did and the more stuff they start
slipping in there, Steve, I mean, the more it's like, oh, well,
I want this thing. You know, we already talked about
the green new scam, which the President called out over
the weekend, the Green new scam tax credits all of
a sudden popping up again in the Senate bill. I mean,
what the heck. So I think the President's right, we
(47:15):
need to get this thing done. So let's push, push, push,
and we need to make sure that the Senate gets
onto the same page with the President and the House.
The President negotiated that House deal. We need to hew
as closely as we can to the House deal that
includes on rural hospital Steve's for sure includes that on
the green new scam. We ought to be phasing those
things out, those subsidies. I mean, I think we got
(47:36):
to go cold turkey on or be honest, let's that's
all Biden stuff. Let's get rid of all of that stuff,
cut it all out, and then let's get this thing
to the President's desk. I'm not in favor of further delay.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Here, Senator Johnson always going to stick with us.
Speaker 9 (47:48):
A few minutes to a ninety second commercial break the
President of these United States had his back one percent.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
He can THEVIC on a true social saying hey, I
want to get rid. I don't even know why we're
talking about this. The whole thing goes a whole green
new scam.
Speaker 9 (48:04):
Senator Josh Hawley defenders of Royal Hospitals making sure that
the Medicaid is actually appropriated correctly, Artificial intelligence, all of it.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
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