THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JUNE 26TH, 2025 (EP.#4588)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON

GUESTS:
CAPTAIN JAMES FANELL
JACK POSOBIEC

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of the UN Atomic Energy Agency this morning, Raphael Grossi
US and Israeli strikes caused enormous damage to Iran's nuclear sites.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Don't take my word for it. How about the IDF's
chief of staff.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I can say here that the assessment is that we
significantly damage the nuclear program, setting it back by years.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I repeat years.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
The Iranian foreign minister the spokesman, our nuclear instrations have
been badly damaged.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's for sure. I'm sure that's an understatement.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
John Radcliffe, the director of the CIA, putting out a
statement just last night. CIA can confirm that a body
of credible intelligence indicates Iran's nuclear program has been severely
damaged by recent targeted strikes.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
This includes new intelligence from.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
A historically reliable very different than preliminary assessment with low confidence.
He's saying, historically reliable and accurate source of method that
several key Eroundani nuclear facilities were destroyed and would have
to be rebuilt over the course of years. CIA continues

(01:09):
to collect additional buyer sourced information to keep appropriate decision
makers fully informed.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
How about d n.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I Telsea Gabbard yesterday, she writes, and I quote, new
intelligence confirms what POTUS has stated numerous times Iran's nuclear
facilities have been destroyed.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Institute for Science Albright.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Overall, Israel and US attacks have effectively destroyed you and
Iran's centrifuge enrichment program.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Let me now turn to the bomber crews themselves give
you a few details about them.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
The crews that.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Attacked four Daux were from the Active Duty Air Force
and the Missouri Air National Guard. The crews ranked from
captain to colonel, and most were graduates of the Air
Force Weapon School, headquartered at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada.
I will state for the record that there is no beach, volleyball,

(02:09):
or football at the Air Force Weapon School. They were
male and female aviators on this mission, and a crew
member told me when I talked to them on video
the other day that this felt like the Super Bowl,
the thousands of scientists, airmen, and maintainers all coming together.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
One last story about people.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
When the crews went to work on Friday, they kiss
their loved ones goodbye, not knowing when or if.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
They'd be home.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Late on Saturday night, their families became aware of what
was happening, and on Sunday when those jets returned from
white men. Their families were there, flags flying and tears flowing.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
I have chills literally talking about this.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
The jets rejoined into a formation of four airplanes, followed
by a formation of three, and came up overhead white Man,
proudly in the traffic pattern, pitching out to land right
over the base and landing to the incredible cheers of
their families who sacrifice and serve right alongside their family members.

(03:16):
Like I said, there were a lot of flags and
a lot of tears because you.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You the press, specifically you the press corps, because you
cheer against Trump so hard. It's like in your DNA
and in your blood to cheer against Trump because you
want him not to.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Be successful so bad.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You have to hope maybe they weren't effective.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Maybe the way the Trump administration is represented him isn't true.
So let's take half truths, spun information, leaked information, and
then spin it, spin it in every way we can
to try to cause doubt and manipulate the public mind
over whether or not our brave pilots were successful. How

(04:07):
many stories have been written about how hard it is to,
I don't know, fly a plane for thirty six hours.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Has MSNBC done that story? Has Fox?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Have we done the story how hard that is? Have
we done it two or three times? So that American
people understand, how about how difficult it is to shoot
a drone from an F fifteen or sixteen or F
twenty two or F thirty five, or what it's like
to man a Patriot battery, or how hard it is
to refuel mid air. Giving the American people an understanding
of how complex and sophisticated this mission really was. There

(04:37):
are so many aspects of what our brave men and
women did.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
That because of the hatred of this press.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Corps are undermined because your people are trying to leak
and spin that it wasn't successful. It's irresponsible, and folks
in this room are privy to that information because of
the proximity here in the Pentagon. It's an important responsibility.
And time and time again, classified information is leaked or

(05:03):
pedaled for political purposes to try.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
To make the president look bad.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
And what's really happening is you're undermining the success of
incredible B two pilots and incredible F thirty five pilots
and incredible refuelers and incredible air defenders who accomplish their
mission set back a nuclear program in ways that other
presidents would have dreamed.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
How about we celebrate that.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
How about we talked about how special America is that
we only we have these capabilities.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I think it's too much to ask. Unfortunately for the
fake news, so we're used to that, but we also.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Have an opportunity to stand at the podium and read
the truth of what's really happening.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And the reality is.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You want to call it destroyed, you want to call
it defeated, you want to call it obliterated.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Choose your word.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
This was an historically successful attack and we should celebrate
it as Americans, and it gives us a chance to
have peace, chance to have a deal, and an opportunity
to prevent a nuclear Iran, which is something President Trump
talked about for twenty years and no other presidents had
the courage to actually do. How many stories have been
written about how hard it is to I don't know,
fly a plane for thirty six hours?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Has MSNBC done that story?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
As Fox?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Have we done the story how hard that is? Have
we done it two or three times? So that American
people understand, how about how difficult it is to shoot
a drone from an F fifteen or sixteen, or F
twenty two or F thirty five, or what it's like
to man a Patriot battery, or how hard it is
to refuel mid air, giving the American people an understanding
of how complex and sophisticated this mission really was. There

(06:34):
are so many aspects of what our brave men and
women did that because of the hatred of this press,
corps are undermined, because your people are trying to leak
and spin that it wasn't successful.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
It's irresponsible.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Do you have certainty that all the highly enrich uranium
was inside the Four Dome Mountain or some of it?
Because there were satellite photos that showed more than a
dozen trucks there two days in advance. Are you certain
none of that highly enriched uranium was moved?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Of course, we're watching every single aspect.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
But Jennifer, you've been about the worst, the one who
misrepresents the most intentionally.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I know what the President says.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
I'm familiar about the ventilations chefs on Saturday night, and
in fact I was the first to describe the b
two bombers, the refueling the entire mission with great accuracy.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
So I take issue with that.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I appreciate you acknowledging that this is the first, the
most successful mission based on operational security that this department
has done since you be here, and I appreciate that. Absolutely,
we're looking at all aspects of intelligence and making sure
we have a sense of what was where.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
Why not acknowledge the female pilots that also participated in
this mission. The early messages that you sent out only
congratulated the boys.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So when I say something like our boys and bombers,
see this is the kind of thing the press does. Right.
Of course, the chairman mentioned a female bomber pilot. But
that's fantastic. She's fantastic, she's a hero. I want more
female bomber pilots. I hope men and women of our
country sign up to do such brave and audacious things.
But when you spin it as because I say our
boys and bombers as a common phrase, I'll keep saying

(08:13):
things like that, whether they're men or women. Very proud
of that female pilot, just like I'm very proud of
those male pilots, And I don't care if it's a
male or a female in that cockpit, and the American.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
People don't care.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
But it's the obsession with race and gender in this
department that's changed priorities.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
We don't do that anymore. We don't play your little games. Yes,
there certain that.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
The uranium was removed from a facility before the B
two strung.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
So I'm not aware of any intelligence that I've reviewed
that says things were not where they.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Were supposed to be moved or otherwise.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Do you feel like this is being results of put
a little pressure from the White House or are.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
These good faith takes.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
I don't know what's causing it, but and I do want,
I guess, as a national security editor, sort of explain
what he said that was false. He said that, you know,
the media and physically named US has ignored these reports.
Here is our report, our story last night that I
personally published, written by my colleague.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Dandalous and Gordon Loubold.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
CIA says Iran's nuclear program severely damaged by US strikes.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
As soon as that was said, we reported it.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
This story has the CIA assessment, Chelsea Gabbard's statement on this,
the Israeli statement on this, so so many of the
things he said just about this mission and just about
the press coverage was exaggerated. You mentioned D Day. I mean, again,
the most complex and historic operation in history. There were
eleven thousand I looked this up. Eleven thousand aircraft involved

(09:35):
in D Day, seventy three thousand US troops participated in it,
two thousand, five hundred Americans died.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I don't know again.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
What's causing him to say that.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
You know, President Trump carried out the most complex and
historic operation in US history, but that's not true. And
then heg seth himself, you know, in the very first
briefing said Iran's nuclear ambitions have been obliterated. And this
goes go back to this broader issue of what happened
to the enriched uranium, And that's the question we should

(10:07):
be talking about. It was a successful mission. I as
salute the men and women who carried it out, but
I think distracting people by blaming the press and not
addressing the real issues is you know, again, national security
needs facts and honest debate, and that's what's so concerned.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

Speaker 10 (10:31):
Pray for our enemies because We're going to medieval on
these people.

Speaker 9 (10:36):
There's not got a free shot.

Speaker 10 (10:37):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.

Speaker 9 (10:42):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've
tried to do everything in the world to stop there,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Mega media?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 10 (11:02):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
War Room.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 10 (11:11):
Bat Okay, it's Thursday, twenty sixth June, in the year
of our Lord twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (11:21):
I want to read from the Commander in chief.

Speaker 10 (11:26):
Right at the conclusion of this morning's press briefing, and
I quote one of the greatest, most professional, and most
confirming news conferences I have ever seen. The fake news
should fire everyone involved in this witch hunt and apologize
to our great warriors.

Speaker 9 (11:45):
And everyone else. We would tend to agree.

Speaker 10 (11:48):
I have Jack Pisovic, I have Captain Jim fin Now,
I have two extraordinary naval intelligence officers who can get
down to it. So, first off, what you're seeing there
in the in the UH, in the inform in the media,
which is the information arm of the globalists and particularly

(12:12):
the deep state, particularly and when you especially when you're
talking about the Pentagon, they do not want this war
to be over. Because remember three quarters of the people
in that room are from smaller publications, specially publications that
focus on defense. All of their advertisers are the defense industry.

(12:37):
If you look at the mainstream media and you go
over to Fox News, you go over, you see Grumming
and Martin and Marietta and you know, or all the
new because they're all combined into three companies, right, Lockheed, Martin,
all of it. They've all combined in three huge companies.
They're taking ads all the time. You don't see those
ads on War Room not going to take them, just
like we don't take pharma ads, wouldn't take pharmer sponsors

(12:59):
or defend industry sponsors. They're paid by the weapons industry.
It's like MSNBC heaven Founcy up there. You watch MSNBC
at night, Each each advertising segment's got two or three Bizarro.
Bizarro ads from the from the big Pharma, the media

(13:21):
is one hundred percent captured over the Pentagon. For the
weapons and arms manufacturers, they want the war to continue.
President Trump with this briefing showed once again total obliteration,
one and done.

Speaker 9 (13:36):
It's over.

Speaker 10 (13:37):
The twelve day war is over, and President Trump in
the country are moving on. There's not going to be
any o the search. We're going to do the search
now for the for.

Speaker 9 (13:47):
The material, because they had trucks outside. We're going to
do a search for material.

Speaker 10 (13:51):
Maybe we need dev groups, we need the Sealed Team
six and some EOD specialists to go over and help
the IDF, the Israeli commando.

Speaker 9 (14:00):
No, if you want to go do it, go do yourself.

Speaker 10 (14:03):
There's not regime change, not going to do it. President
Trump said it total obliteration and the twelve day war
is over.

Speaker 9 (14:13):
And of course the.

Speaker 10 (14:14):
Heads of Tel Aviv Levin and the Fox News and
right there you saw it, not on the War Room live.
You saw Pete Hesitt, the Secretary Offense, called out Fox
News and said.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
You are the worst.

Speaker 11 (14:30):
They are the cheerleaders of the forever wars in Iraq,
in Afghanistan, in Ukraine and now in Iran, in Persia.

Speaker 10 (14:42):
Okay, all they want is forever worse. I don't know
is it had to do with the Murdoch relationships with
the deep state, or the globalist or.

Speaker 9 (14:51):
The defense industry. Let me just ask him questions. Short
and break.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen k Back.

Speaker 10 (15:04):
There's explosive news coming out about the big beautiful bill
that things are not in it.

Speaker 9 (15:08):
There's so much going on.

Speaker 10 (15:09):
President Trump's talking about deportations, mass deportations.

Speaker 9 (15:12):
Amazing news coming in on that.

Speaker 10 (15:13):
Because you know why, the commander in chief and the
President United States has done his duty and we're going
to talk. I got fanilla and puts over, so I want
to talk about. The real news is what happened in
NATO yesterday. That's the real news. This news is the President,
the United States's commander in chief, called upon his uniform
services and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and Syncom

(15:35):
to basically a shattering and catastrophic attack on both the
nuclear science part of it and the industrial process of
the Persians.

Speaker 9 (15:46):
It delivered a death blow, one and done.

Speaker 10 (15:49):
He declared victory on the Twelve Day War and said,
guess what we're out of there, and so the Fox
News and all these folks that from Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine
and now in Iran have to have a.

Speaker 9 (16:08):
Permanent war are in shock.

Speaker 10 (16:11):
And Fox News got called out brutally on a on
global television this morning, on something watched by tens of
millions of people because they're so fascinated about what's going
on and need to.

Speaker 9 (16:21):
Hear the results.

Speaker 10 (16:23):
Got called out as the worst by the Secretary of
Defense who used to work there.

Speaker 9 (16:29):
I want to start with Captain Fanel.

Speaker 10 (16:32):
Captain and just in your professional assessment, what did you
hear this morning and what are your thoughts on this.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Well? Steve, first of all, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 12 (16:42):
What we've observed since this strike and all the reactions
from people. It's a little bit typical of people second guessing.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
What the military does.

Speaker 12 (16:51):
Thirty four years ago, I was a lieutenant and I
was stationed in Hawaiian and I was doing bomb damage
assessment for deserts through various other technical means that we have,
and thirty four years ago those results, as we remember,
General Schwarzkov wasn't very happy about the bda that he

(17:11):
was getting to conduct that war, and in the last
thirty four years, there's been a tremendous amount of effort
put into you know, not just analyze. I'm a trained
targeting officer doing target analysis and finding the vulnerabilities. As
General Kine pointed out that the Defense Threat Reduction Agency
DITTRA had a team of people examining these facilities for

(17:34):
over a decade. Not only were we examining the facilities
and doing the targeting work, but we were also you know,
having in place the ability to do battle damage assessment.
And it takes in all forms of intelligence, human intelligence, imagery, intelligence,
signals intelligence, all kinds of intelligence that comes together to

(17:55):
give that assessment. And so far, from everything that I've heard,
not only from General kin and from the Secretary of Defense,
but from other retired officers and people that I talked to,
there's a unanimity that the facility was that we were
destroyed and destroyed significantly, and the equipment that is in
there is very sensitive equipment, so it doesn't take a

(18:17):
lot of destruction, but they received that kind of destruction
that will take them offline for a significant portion of time,
much longer than what the press has been saying in
the last few days about just a couple of months,
it's going to be years, if not decades, and so
I think we have to be careful and cautious. I
think Sam Fattis is right that we don't want to

(18:39):
be played by people feeding us information. But we should
also acknowledge, as the President is repeatedly stated, we should
acknowledge the great work that's been done by the Defense
Department in this operation. And so I think to that extent,
we should be confident that we've made a significant impact.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
And you combine that with what the Israeli did in
terms of.

Speaker 12 (19:00):
Taking out scientists and people that were specifically working on that,
and I think we have a significant impact on Iran's
nuclear capabilities and their ability to produce or even to
have somebody try to import nuclear programs from either Russia
or China or North Korea. So I think they're set back,

(19:21):
and we should be confident in that. We should continue
to investigate, you know, do more analysis and look at this.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
But they report that the secretary.

Speaker 12 (19:30):
Or the chairman just laid out here in this last
couple of hours is pretty definitive, and so I'm really
also I think we should call out that, you know,
this leak of this interim preliminary report from DA smacks
of the kind of politicization that we've seen in the
intelligence community over the last few years.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
I have a personal opinion on this.

Speaker 12 (19:53):
We saw this kind of leaking last year when it
was told, we were told by leakers in the intelligence
commun unity that China's three hundred and fifty ICBM silos
and Western and Central.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
China were non operational.

Speaker 12 (20:07):
And I had talked to a lot of folks in
the IC and they all said that that leak was
cherry picked out of the report and did not accurately
reflect the IC's assessment.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
So we have a problem right now. We have a
bloated bureaucracy.

Speaker 12 (20:21):
We have a bloated IC, and we need to start
taking some actions to draw this down.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
We don't need all of the.

Speaker 12 (20:28):
People that we have in the IC, especially the management level,
the people that don't actually do intelligence work, the people
that are non experts. We have way too many managers
and not enough analysts, and so I think there's a
lot of work that needs to be done there by
the Director of National Intelligence and the Director of Central Intelligence.
But the OD and I Miss Gabbert, has a work

(20:50):
cut out for her to take on how do we
draw this ic down and make it more.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Effective and less politicized.

Speaker 10 (21:00):
Quickly for a good of Pacovaco, And just give me
you like thirty seconds or a minute on this your
area of expertise.

Speaker 9 (21:05):
You did this under shorts, COF.

Speaker 10 (21:07):
Talking about your area of expertise is kind of the
thing we're actually talking about, correct, right.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
I joined the Navy and I was a targeting officer.
I did many.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
Tours on aircraft carriers, and I was a trained combat
targeting officer down a good fellow Air Force base. So
I worked in targeting for the first half of my career,
and I did battle damage assessment with my Air Force
counterparts during Desert Storm. And what I'll just say it again,
I mean it was a hard job in terms of
getting it right.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
And there were things that were made mistakes back then.

Speaker 12 (21:40):
But that was thirty four years ago, and I'm here
to tell you that we have new systems, new technologies,
and we have much more sophisticated ways of determining what's happened.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Not one hundred percent accurate all the.

Speaker 12 (21:53):
Time, but you have a unanimity amongst the retired officers
that have watched this seen what's going on. They know
them measures of effectiveness for these munitions against these target types.
And when I see the chairmen get up and talk
about a ditter team that's spent over a decade analyzing
these facilities, and then they know exactly what munitions were used,

(22:13):
exactly what time they were delivered and in what succession
with what spacing, and how those munitions performed through test
and evaluation observed test and evaluation.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Of these munitions.

Speaker 12 (22:25):
Then you can rest assured that when they say that
it's destroyed, that they're not politicizing this. This is kind
of an empirical science when it comes to the effectiveness
of munitions when they go into certain types of materials.
We do that and that's what battle damage assessment does.
It takes that into account and measures it.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
Jack Posobik, your thoughts and observations, sir.

Speaker 13 (22:50):
Well, Steve, of course, it still it's great to be
here on the war room, Captain Fanel. For longtime war
room listeners, they will remember that I had the honor
of serving on Captain Panel.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Was attached to one of his UH eight at pay comm.

Speaker 13 (23:03):
Delegations at one point for a Korea visit, working with
our r o K forces over there while I was
with the Office of Naval Intelligence. Look, Steve, when it
comes to this, we're looking at we're trying they're trying
to play games between battle damage assessment and the media assessment.
These are two completely separate things.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
And you and I said earlier on the morning show.

Speaker 13 (23:29):
That we hopped in and I said, I think what
we need here is a battle damage assessment of the
mainstream media's credibility after that press conference this morning with
Secretary heg Seth and Chairman King, because what's it's clear
what's going on here is that after they couldn't get
their questions answered, Jen Griffin starts bringing up what about

(23:49):
the female pilots? And you said we support our boys,
and you didn't say boys and girls, And that's it,
Like Jen, just just cut it all right, just cut
it the current battle down. I'm an assessment of Jen
Griffin completely and totally obliterated, absolutely obliterated. And this at
this point honestly becomes the president's new operation. He's conducting

(24:14):
information warfare at the same time that he conducted the
third generation warfare. So you've got third generation warfare, that's
the strikes going up against fourth generation information warfare.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
That's what the mainstream media is doing.

Speaker 13 (24:29):
Their counterattack has been all fourth generation warfare to try
to throw up, Oh, there's this assessment, and the assessment
says it was no good, and we got to keep
hunting these things. We need boots on the ground.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
We're going to give up.

Speaker 13 (24:40):
We can see exactly what they're doing, and the bad
actors who have these influences from raytheon, from Boeing et cetera,
et cetera, that want to push forward with more military
combat operations there from the Air Force, but also from
the Great Navy. Of course, that's what this is all about.
They're trying to push for more war.

Speaker 10 (25:03):
No, and the President was pretty adamant. That's why the
that's why this this was the second. We did one
on Sunday morning. We did another on Thursday morning. Uh,
it's conclusive. He added in the C, I, A, and
D and I reports. I do think it might have
been helpful, particularly if Tulsi's not going to the Hill today,

(25:26):
Bring her in and let her give her assessment, because
they're all, oh, well we're the intel guys, do that,
and and and and just drop the mic and move on.
This is what the forever war crowd, and particularly Fox
because they're they're particularly obnoxious about this and so obvious.
They don't hide their punch. The twelve Day War is over.

(25:48):
President Trump put together a unique strike package of naval assets,
air force assets.

Speaker 9 (25:55):
They had a in combination with.

Speaker 10 (25:58):
The Israelis, delivered a death blow to whatever nuclear power program,
the nuclear weapons program they had, both the science and
the industrial process.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
It's over. And you heard Captain Feron.

Speaker 10 (26:11):
You've heard other people in this for I don't know,
years and years and years, maybe decades. It's over and
the twelve Day War is over. And President Trump's commander
in chief is moved on. So all this about, oh,
we got to put boots in the ground and find
thing because.

Speaker 9 (26:27):
You're in here.

Speaker 10 (26:27):
They're always going to do Jack and Captain Fanel the upsell,
the urgency and the upsell constantly. But they got called
out today. They got called out in a brutal fashion.
The quote from the Secretary of Defense is Fox News
is the worst.

Speaker 9 (26:47):
I rest my case on Fox News.

Speaker 10 (26:49):
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Speaker 6 (27:01):
Certainty that all the highly enriched uranium was inside the
Four Dome Mountain, or some of it, because there were
satellite photos that showed more than a dozen trucks there
two days in advance. Are you certain none of that
highly enriched uranium was moved?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Of course, we're watching every single aspect, But Jennifer, you've
been about the worst, the one who misrepresents the most intentionally.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I know what the President says.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
I'm familiar about the ventilations chefs on Saturday night, and
in fact, I was the first to describe the B
two bombers, the refueling, the entire mission with great accuracy.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
So I take issue with that.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I appreciate you acknowledging that this is the first, the
most successful mission based on operational security that this Department
has done since you be here, and I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
We're looking at all aspects of intelligence and making sure
we have a sense of what was.

Speaker 14 (27:54):
Where the President lifted and the administration lifted some of
the sanctions on or on to be able to ship
crude oil to China yesterday as well. Why was that
necessary and how does that perhaps create the beginning of
a pathway towards this more prosperous Iran that you speak of.

Speaker 15 (28:17):
Well, I think it was a signal from the President.
Do you know he's got this uncanny ability to take
the temperature of how people are feeling about certain things.
I think, you know, this was a signal to the
Chinese that we want to work with you, that we're
not interested in hurting your economy. We're interested in working

(28:37):
together with you in unison, and hopefully that becomes a
signal to the Iranians. So I think I think it
was a great decision, and I'm not sure if it
was I'm not sure if it was unexpected or not.
But I have come to expect the President Trump doing
these sorts of things.

Speaker 10 (28:58):
Okay, stop, you've heard on this show a million times,
economic warfare, cut off the oil, make sort of the CCP.

Speaker 9 (29:07):
You'll crush the CCP, You'll crush the mulas.

Speaker 10 (29:10):
I got it. We're big boys and girls here. We
got we got Captain Fenel and Jack Posovic. The President
doesn't agree with that, that's fine. He's commander in chief
and I kind of dig his style. But for the
forever war guys, this is a crushing. This is wamp wamp.
This is a crushing blow to tel Aviv Levin in

(29:31):
the Fox guys now only say.

Speaker 9 (29:33):
The war is over. Yeah, I'm gonna let the move.
I'm gonna get let him.

Speaker 10 (29:37):
Get a little cash, keep the economy going.

Speaker 9 (29:40):
See see what can happen.

Speaker 10 (29:42):
I don't think he's gonna do regime change because he
just helped the regime get some cash money.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
This is my point.

Speaker 10 (29:49):
And let me say something here, and this gets back
to the amazing Washington Post story yesterday that Nnahu's government
has not refuted what they did is came out and
go it's nonsense because it's brutal. It's brutal about the massade.
It's brutal about what netnya who's been doing with various
American governments for.

Speaker 9 (30:08):
A long time, the whole nuclear power thing.

Speaker 10 (30:13):
And President Trump obliterated, as Captain Finel said, and so
many extras said, it's one and done. This thing's back years,
if not decades. I think it's totally over it. And
here's why, Jack Pasovic, I actually believe the more you
actually drill into this, I'm so glad President Trump has
taking it off the table by saying the Twelve Day War,

(30:33):
I did it. I eradicated it. The twelve Day War
is over. We can stop talking about it, and we're
moving on. And by the way, we're gonna live, so
little oil to the Chinese, get some cash. The nuclear
weapons entire program was a mcguffin.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
Now you say, well, see what's a mcguffin.

Speaker 10 (30:50):
Mcguffin's a plot device, particularly in the classic age of
Hollywood back in particularly in the thirties. The mcguffin is
is a plot device that drives the narrative forward in
the story but has no real meaning in reality.

Speaker 9 (31:09):
Now what I mean by that.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
A couple of classic examples are the is the the
Maltese Falcon, the falcon itself, and let's take Casablanca, the papers,
the sign papers, because obviously if the Germans didn't once
you go, it didn't go, so it had no meaning
in reality, but in the movie it drives all the action.

Speaker 9 (31:30):
That's a mcguffin.

Speaker 10 (31:32):
A mcguffin is the Maltese falcon, the entire nuclear weapons thing,
because you're seeing it right now.

Speaker 9 (31:38):
We destroyed it in one in one turn, and not
just that.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
The Masad and if you go to citizens Free Presses
and Cane's got great links to all these stories. The
Masade put out one of the most detailed stories of
Massad operations they've ever put out about how they so
infiltrated every aspect of Iran to kill these nuclear scientists
everywhere the story, he's kind of a self owned this
is ahead of Massade told it because you know what's

(32:03):
missing in the story a smoking gun, Like where is
the exact thing that you said had to be so
urgent that we had to bomb.

Speaker 9 (32:14):
Two thursdays ago?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
You know why?

Speaker 10 (32:18):
It's a mcguffin, Jack Bosobic. Am I right or wrong
on that?

Speaker 13 (32:21):
Sir well Steve, if I if I have my Hollywood
history correct, isn't that the end of the Maltese Falcon
when they go and actually check the statue, they they
chip off the black plaint paint.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
And then underneath it's just it's not it's it's fake.

Speaker 13 (32:36):
It's it's there's no jewels, or isn't it so at
Hemphrey Boger, what what is it really? And he says
the stuff that dreams are made of? Right, that's the
famous line. But I think that I think the real
falcon at the end of.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
The movie is actually fake. So I don't know if
that helps or hurts your house.

Speaker 10 (32:53):
My point is they had aspects of this, but were
they prepared to get a weapon and a bomb immediately?
The answer is the massade to put out details of
the story no smoking Gun. The Washington Post put a
brutal story on Nitya whose efforts to manipulate the United
States into this no smoking gun. The reason Tulsa Gabberd's
not going up to the hill today is not about

(33:13):
the battle damage assessment. It's because Ratcliffe and the Massade
are going to make their presentation on whatever it is,
and some declassified version of that should be brought forward.
But this is the power President Trump. What he did
he shut it all down. He set up the most sophisticated,
complicated military action since the Second World War. I actually
think maybe since D Day, or at least maybe the

(33:35):
bombing of Tokyo and the bombing of Japan at the
end of the war. He did this to shut down
the conversation and say, hey, guess what, the twelve Day
War's over. I don't want to hear any more about
it and we're moving on. It's pasoabic. Has he done that?
Because you've got win cough and I know nothing can
blow up with Finel Bannon or Prosobic's heads more than

(33:55):
we're letting himself oil to the Chinese Countess Party. But
he's got a bigger strategic vision here. Particularly he doesn't
want it appears he's not actually supporting regime change. He's
going in the opposite direction because he's get letting them
get a little cash.

Speaker 9 (34:07):
But Sobic your thoughts on.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
That, well, Steve, that's right.

Speaker 13 (34:12):
And China just completed the People's Liberation Army navy just
completed this massive first time they ever did this two
carrier deployment, so a dual deployment to the South China Sea.
This is the largest deployment of carriers that we've ever
seen from China. And as their navy pushes out further
and further into weas to say they were a brown

(34:32):
water navy, Well guess what they're showing us that their
navy is more and more bluewater brown water, meaning it's
closer to the littorals, it's shallower depth, the shallow depth
like the South China.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
See.

Speaker 13 (34:44):
Now they're pushing out beyond what the first island chain.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
They got, the second island chain in their sights.

Speaker 13 (34:50):
Now they're moving, and that means further and further across
the Pacific.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
That's what those island chains are.

Speaker 13 (34:55):
We'll go through the maps later on Human Events Daily
to get people to understanding of what you mean from
the opintel perspective of all this. But at the end
of the day, as China needs to push out more,
they want their navy to be able to backstop the
Belton Road initiative, the One Belt, One Road. They need
their navy to be able to protect more and more
of their shipping.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
And what do you need for all that. You need
cheap oil.

Speaker 13 (35:18):
So they're already getting one source from the Russians, and
then they need another source from the Iranians.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
This is their cheapest producer.

Speaker 13 (35:27):
And they are the number one customer by far of
the Iranians. So with President Trump putting that out, it
seems to me that what he's doing with the Iranians
it's a carrot and stick approach. So on the one hand, it's, hey,
you guys are building nukes. Boom, you get the bunker busters,
you get those penetrators dropped from the B twos. But
on the other hand, when you're moving in the right direction. Okay,

(35:49):
we're doing ceasefire. You're not restarting the nuclear program. You
have denuclearized. Now you get the carrot of the oil
sales to China. So he knows exactly where the pressure
points are, he knows exactly where the levers are with Iran,
and I think he's playing them right into a spot.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Where he wants everyone.

Speaker 10 (36:08):
This is absolutely amazing, Captain Fanel. So we didn't have
time to pull we didn't have time to play the clip.
But when they talked about uh, General raising Kane actually
started with the attacks on Katar and he talked about
the Patriot batteries and he said, hey, we pulled this
from Korea, we pulled it from the Pacific. As you know,
we've been huge advocates of this is the problem with

(36:30):
these Mid eastwards. They're taking so many assets. We had
the the Los Angeles Class, we had the submarines shooting
the Tomahawk missiles. We have way too many assets around
this situation. We gotta we gotta stand down as the
President wants to do and make the main thing the
main thing. Put in perspective of the NATO, what happened
in NATO also with the what Jack just talked about

(36:51):
we got to pivot back, uh outside the gravitational force
of Sendcom and we gotta we got to uh pivot
back to what is the most important thing. That's Taiwan
and the Chinese Commanist Party.

Speaker 12 (37:05):
Sir, Yeah, this is the thrust of the last quarter century.
It's been this essentially control of the Pentagon, and our
strategic outlook as a nation in terms of national defense
and security and war fighting has been focused on the
Sencom area of responsibility, going back to Desert Storm nineteen

(37:27):
ninety ninety one, Desert Shield, Desert Storm. So we're in
a thirty five year period of where we had some
strategic interests in Iraq and Afghanistan, and we can debate
all that, but after time, after a quarter of a
century of watching the People's Republic of China modernizer military
across all fronts, it's become clear that we have not

(37:51):
altered the defense departments focus on how we should address
the rise of the PRC and the PLA, the People's
Liberation Army, and so when we have things like this,
we do siphon off resources from the Indo Pacific theater,
and it puts that stability at risk. We've largely had
peace and stability in the Indo Pacific for eighty years,

(38:12):
vice the Korean War, which is still an armistice, and
the Vietnam War, but for the most part, it's been
very passive and calm there, and that's largely because of
the presence of the US military and the US Navy
and the seventh Fleet. But we've been sucking those off.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
In the last year.

Speaker 12 (38:29):
We've sent four carriers from the Pacific out to the
Gulf at various times to cover down on these emerging
situations that have been like this for twenty five years,
and so we need to stop and ask ourselves, are
we preparing the nation for the future war that will
come with the People's Republic of China who's declared it
against us, the People's war that they declared against us,

(38:51):
and are in fact pursuing it. They want to pursue
it non kinetically, but they've also prepared themselves kinetically.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
And so we're in a.

Speaker 12 (38:59):
Position right right now where the President has taken action,
a very strategic action that hasn't been done since nineteen
seventy nine. No president has done and attacked Iran like this,
and so we have taken that action, and for the
most part, it appears that Iran is going to crawl
into their cave and await things and let things percolate.

(39:22):
And so the question is what now can we do
to change the atmosphere we just saw, as you mentioned,
in the NATO summit, remember and Trump's first administration, they
scoffed and ridiculed him here in Europe and said, how
dare you ask people to pay these nations to pay
their obligation of two percent that they had previously committed to.

(39:43):
We just got them yesterday to all sign on and
say five percent except for Spain. So that's a dramatic,
dramatic event that happened yesterday, and it's not getting the
pres that it deserves. And what that does, it means
trillions of dollars from European governments are going to go
into rebuilding the NATO structure, which will then allow the

(40:05):
American military to get back to or not get back to,
but get to focusing on the main thing, which is
dealing with.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
The People's Republic of China.

Speaker 12 (40:14):
And Jack mentioned the two carriers that were operating Not
only did they operate inside the first Island chain, but
the Olio name operated outside the Second Island chain for
the first time ever.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
And we can talk about that and if you want.

Speaker 12 (40:26):
But there's a lot there that happened, and it's a
growing trend line that's very, very concerning, and our defense
department continues to prioritize spending on the army.

Speaker 10 (40:35):
Here not the name on Sencam hangar for one second.
We're gonna come back. Jack's gonna wrap up. Get so
much going on and getting ready for human events daily.
Jack's gonna wrap up. IM going to keep Captain Fanel short,
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(42:45):
I think we out to kind of refocus and recalibrate
the big beautiful bill. Looks like this morning they pulled
the rug on a couple of things. We'll get to
that in the second hour. Jack Pasobic any closing, any
closing thoughts or observations on President trump tobliterations given the
second briefing, he said, this was good move on. I

(43:05):
talked about letting the mulas have some cash whatever. You know,
they're dealing with them. I think they're gonna meet with
a delegation of them. Bad news for tel Aviv Levin
in the crowd. There ain't gonna be no war in
Persia right now. Your thoughts, sir, Well Steeve.

Speaker 13 (43:22):
I think President Trump is very clear on this that
this has been put to bed.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
The threat was the threat.

Speaker 13 (43:28):
The threat has now been eliminated, has been neutralized, obliterated,
whatever one of the adjective of the source of words
that you.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Want to go through. We can walk down the line.

Speaker 13 (43:40):
But President Trump is clearly sending the message.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I don't know how many more.

Speaker 13 (43:44):
Briefings these guys need before they realize that the threat
has been eliminated.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
It is over.

Speaker 13 (43:51):
We're not doing the regime change upsell. President Trump has
rejected the regime change up sell. He is out the
door and he is not coming back. All right, you
guys could not close the upsell. You couldn't close the upsell.
And it's as simple as that. We knew what you
were doing when you were doing it. Now you're sending
Jen Griffin in there, and what.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Does she do?

Speaker 13 (44:10):
Boom, she gets hit with a bunker buster right there.
We need a battle damage assentsment on Jen Griffin. Meanwhile, meanwhile,
right the rest of this, the rest of this is
going in and we're while we're not paying it, while
we're all sucked down, and China wants us to be
bogged down. And President Trump, by the way, talking about
Ron selling the oil to China, is he saying, I

(44:34):
know what you're doing. I know the connection here. He
understands the way this all flows. He understands the way
power flows. And it's something that he just understands intrinsically.
He is a natural ability that he has and he's
had his entire life.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
And look at this. When you put your Navy officer
hat on, you put your China hat.

Speaker 13 (44:52):
On June twenty twenty five, this was the first time
that we've seen a Chinese aircraft carrier crossed the An
Island chain PASSWAM, passed Ewo Jima, headed towards where the
next goal post, the next goalpost, the next milestone for
them will be Hawaii operations towards Hawaii. This is how

(45:13):
far out the Chinese aircraft carrier program, which, by the way,
by the way, I love this, but because I could
thread the needle on all this. You got a Chinese
aircraft carrier that's powered by Iranian hired by Iranian oil,
and it was built where it was built in Ukraine.
So it was built in Ukraine, powered by Iranian oil.

(45:36):
Now it's fueling the Chinese military ambitions across the Pacific.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
I just it.

Speaker 13 (45:41):
Threads the entire thing all the way through and explains
how it explains really the Hodgepodge and Dog's Breakfast of
threats to our geopolitical world that President Trump is navigating
as commander in chief our United States through to understand. Look,
I got I've got coming all over the place. I'm

(46:01):
going to handle the biggest stuff and then I'm going
to push it out to the regional allies. And if
you want that reset with Israel, it's look, Israel, you
got to manage this now because this is on your portfolio,
this is on your department.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
And now I'm going to move off to the next thing.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
There's going to be a reset.

Speaker 10 (46:19):
I mean Tel avivon Levin and these guys can throw
the toys out of the pram, they can scream and yell,
they can call people names, no, but we don't care.
We're about results in the United States is going to
a hemispheric defense that will have expeditionary forces, and the
hemispheric defense goes out to the island change.

Speaker 9 (46:34):
We'll explain this. You also explain this.

Speaker 10 (46:36):
You understand the strategic genius of the people that built
this country.

Speaker 9 (46:42):
You'll understand manifest destiny.

Speaker 10 (46:43):
You'll understand while they saw the Pacific as this great
physical barrier, you understand why they were interested in the
Philippines and these places in the nineteenth century. You also
understand in the Pacific War. Why it was so central,
the island hopping and the taking of what looks like
these small atolls in these islands. It all fits into

(47:04):
a grand strategic structure for the defense of this country.
And guess what, you're not in the Middle East where
you don't need to be in these endless wars. And
that's what the Israel First lobby has to understand. It's over. Okay,
it's over your protectorate. We understand that people love Israel,
support Israel, and want to see Israel not.

Speaker 9 (47:26):
Just survive, but thrive. Okay.

Speaker 10 (47:28):
The people that continue to push to try to get
the United States entangled entangled into these forever wars in
the Middle East are hurting Israel and hurting the Jewish people.
Jack Bosobek, where do people go for human events daily?
And your social media where you're on fire all the time.

Speaker 13 (47:47):
Sir Steve, We're going to be up at human events daily.
We're going to be doing a whole briefing on this
maps and all, and who knows, Steve, maybe we will
be playing some volleyball over on the US Navy Support
show later today.

Speaker 9 (48:01):
Wow, wow, Jack, thank you.

Speaker 10 (48:04):
A real shot taking by General Raisin Caine today a
top gun naval aviators, my kid brother's navy pilot.

Speaker 9 (48:11):
His head blew up.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Yeah, what do they call what do they call roughing
it in the Air Force? No room service, not built first,
No room service.

Speaker 10 (48:24):
Raisin Kane had that postman's head, the mailman's uniform on
this one in kub boom oh, Jack pisobig, thank you.
Captain Fanel is gonna stick around, Carrie Lake. Big big
decision at Supreme Court this morning on planned parenthood. So
much going on, and we're going to pivot all to
it after a kind of how do I say this

(48:46):
short briefing on the strategic direction of the United States
of America in America.

Speaker 9 (48:53):
First, next in the War room.