November 14, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON
RAHEEM KASSAM
LAURA LOOMER
JOEL GILBERT
DAN FLEUTTE
TREVOR COMSTOCK
CHRIS HOAR
MIKE LINDELL
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Mega media?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Worry u'se your host, Stephen k Ba.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, welcome back. It is Friday, fourteenth September, Year of
Verlert twenty twenty five. Only hitters only today. Roger Kimba,
Rahem Cassam or Laura Lumer's going to join us in Momentarily.
I was so engrossed on and Joe Lavarnay from Treasury,
very smart guy. O. Were there really the kind of
the head messaging guy for a secretary Bessant?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I haven't done.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He reads Birch Gold, take your phone out now more
than ever you've seeing the turbulence right now. But Michael Burry,
the UH, the Big Short Guy, remember the UH prey
played by I think Christian Bale in the movie The
Big Short Guy shut down a fact on the front
page of the UH. He shorted Pallanteer and he shorted
(01:35):
Navidia the other day, big short investor Burry shuts. He wrote,
he shut down his after shorting them, and the shorts
weren't huge positions after shorting them. I guess as a test,
he closed his He closed his UH his fund. He
said he couldn't. He couldn't. He doesn't know how to
value these artificial intelligence companies anymore. And I'll get to
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this whole thing that was in zero headgesday. But the
five trillion dollars of capital costs and this is not
like some ten year projection.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
This is like the here and.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now five trillion dollars just to build out the data
centers and the energy right and you don't think your
electric bill is going to be hit a wait for it,
but worse than that of the five trend they know
they need now one trend's got to come from you.
It's a hole that they can't because they don't want
to sell equity. They don't be deluded say look for
you suckers to pay for it, and you get none
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of the upside. This is the grossest example since the
two thousand and eight bailouts of the system looking for
to socialize the risk. That's the way they're mitigating the risk.
They're going to socialize the risk. That's a fancy term
of saying, that's on your shoulders. You're the full faith
and credit of the United States government, any of these guarantees,
and they're going to keep all the upside. They keep
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the ups you mitigate the risk. Well, we're not going
to allow that to happen. You've been treated like suckers
for two longs. That's not going to happen. But that's
the plan. Very scary, and of course the advances in AI.
We have no earthy idea what's happening in these labs
right now, because you have more regulation on Capitol Hill
to open a nail salon than any of the four
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Frontier labs. Have it all on artificial intelligence. Okay, Laura
Lumer joins us, this reason I love Laura Lumer. Courage
it is courage is the virtue of which all the
other virtues rest. And one thing you say about Lumer,
She's one of the most courageous people I know, an
absolute warrior.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So I just want to start off.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean your bona fides as being one of the
leading voices of anti Muslim brotherhood of radical Islam. I mean,
you've been sued, You've had to pay fines, nobody came
to your defense. One of the biggest defenders of Israel,
one of the biggest defenders of the Jewish people, but
always in a context. You put in a context. One
of the biggest contexts is about the Muslim brotherhood and
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what they're trying to do around Israel with all these
radical Turk Muslim and Arab nations.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
On Tuesday, I believe it was.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You came out with a couple of tweets, but you
talked about the sovereignty of Israel and to really have
Israel not be a protectorate or quote unquote not be
the greatest ally, but to be an independent or sovereign nation.
It needed to stop this four billion dollars a year
or whatever the number is of American arms, and it
needed really to make a statement that you're an independent
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nation and you're going to make your own independent decisions,
and hey, you're always an ally of the United States,
but you're an ally like any independent nation, any sovereign nation.
On Thursday morning, Axios, who I think is pretty dialed
in over there, has this article Scoop exclusive that there
is now a twenty year deal, that is a twenty
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year memoranum of understanding, that there would be the commitment
of the four billion or five bian whatever it is,
or for twenty years that would have some tweaks of
some our first language in it, but essent you would
be doubling down on basically Israel's protectorate. And as I
read that, I go gosh, I think they took Laura
Lumber pretty seriously because somebody senior in the Israeli government
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just put a shot across her bow and they did Access.
Now two minutes after Access the Times of Israel, every
big paper had it, and this thing had been briefed.
You could tell they were talking to senior people's, senior
people in the Netnahu government. Then yesterday afternoon, an Australian
reporter who wanted to said.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
You first, I told you that the story was faking.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes, yes, yes, I should say. She texted me said
this story is totally phony. It's false, it's not happening.
Then a couple hours later bb came out and said
absolutely is false in fact, and we'll play the BB
thing a little while. In fact, we're essentially embracing Laura
Lumi's plan. We need our own independence, our own sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We don't need the money. We want to wean ourselves
off it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So just walk us through behind the scenes, what the
hell happened in Israel this week that you started this
kind of movement to you know, get your sovereignty. But
there's obviously some senior folks somewhere that convinced Axios in
the Times of Israel that in fact, the exact opposite
was happening.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Man, Well, obviously we've seen a pivot, right, Steve.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
There's a lot of anti Israel rhetoric.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
On the left and also now on the right, where
we're seeing, you know, extreme hostility towards not just the
State of Israel, but also Jewish people. I called this
Israel derangement syndrome. And I know you and I kind
of got into it back and forth last time I
was on your show. But my point was that, you know,
we need to start focusing on the bigger picture. People
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want to criticize Israel. When you break down the number
and you look at the actual numbers of aid, the
value of aid, you have three point eight billion dollars
per year. Sometimes it's three point three, sometimes it's three
point eight.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That we give Israel.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Now, there was a report, Steve that came out the
other day that showed that our return on that investment
is about forty eight billion dollars a year. Whether that's
through weapons sales or technology or you know, investments in pharmaceuticals,
whatever it may be, we certainly get a lot more
out of our relationship with Israel then we give to
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Israel every single year. However, doesn't matter what the numbers are,
there's no convincing a very large fraction of gen Z
and also a growing number of leftists and also conservatives,
that our relationship with Israel is beneficial. That's not going
to change the fact that Israel's always going to be
our ally, as you just pointed out. And so when
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I was in Israel, I met with military officials. I
met with members of the kanesse I, met with high
level Israeli politicians, and I had discussions about this, and
ultimately what I said is, well, why don't you just
embrace cutting off a cutting off aid to Israel.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
What's the worst that could happen. You're a sovereign nation.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I mean, if the United States is getting forty eight
billion dollars a year out of the relationship with Israel
and our investment into Israel, then it's our loss. Really,
it's our loss as the United States of America if
America doesn't want to appreciate the return on investment with
the aid that we're providing Israel every single year. I
also told these officials when I met with them that
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I don't think that Israel does a good enough job
highlighting the benefit of our.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Relationship with Israel. What do I mean by that?
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Well, people say, oh, well, they're just trying to interfere
in our elections with APAC.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
First of all, I'm not here to defend APAK.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I think that APAC should actually have to register with FARA. However,
when we cut off a to Israel, that's the great thing.
We're not going to need Fara anymore. We're not going
to excuse me, We're not going to need APAC anymore,
because the whole point of a pack is to convince
politicians in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
To support Israel.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
So this whole debate about you know, Israeli interference in
our elections, poof, it's gone, it disappears. And so we're
able to do two things simultaneously. We're able to help
Israel truly become a sovereign nation. We're going to take
these golden handcuffs as I like to call them, off
of the Israelis because America first means not dictating what
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other countries do if you're truly a sovereign nation. And
I know that she'll agree with me on this, Steve.
America first means not telling other countries what to do.
And you made that argument during the two year war
between Israel and Hamas, and people say, well, we're paying
for those you know, those weapons that are being used
to bomb people in Gaza, So we have every right
to tell Israel what to do as it relates to
(09:30):
not bombing Iran or not leveling Gauza. Well, if we're
not giving Israel three point eight billion.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Dollars a year. Who are we? Who are we steve
to tell Israel what they can and can't do.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
So when it.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Comes to taking out the Ayatola, when it comes to
going into Gaza, they violate the seasfire. Americans are no
longer going to be able to complain about Israel perhaps
assassinating the Ayatola or.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Flattening Gaza rights.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
As ominous as it may sound to the critics of Israel,
that's what it means if we're truly going to be
America first, and we're not going to be giving Israel
that's three point eight billion dollars a year and benefiting
from the forty eight billion dollars in return.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That's we used to see.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's y'all who.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Before argument, before we get to the punchline, I want
to make sure we go back you because there's a
lot of criticism here of Trump and saying, hey, how
weak is Trump's understanding of geopolitics or national security. He's
got Laura Lumer coming in and telling me about the
national security. Guys are not really America first, they're neo cons.
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But when you went to Israel, you actually had senior
level people that took meetings.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Why would they take a meeting with Laura Lumer? Why
would they take a.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Meeting with Laura Lumer and have Laura Lumer talk to
them about what their sovereignty is. That's pretty that's a
scoop right there. Why would they do that?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Well, Look, I think that a lot of the lies
that are pushed out against me, they're malicious. I think
a lot of them are you know, are spewed against
me because I am Jewish and because I'm a woman.
I mean, I'm not trying to parent feminist talking points
right now, but there is this animosity towards outsiders. I mean,
people have animosity towards you, Steve. And because I'm not
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an elected official, and because I'm not an official advisor,
people think that I shouldn't have a seat at the
table or I shouldn't be able to share my opinion.
But you know, I have nearly two nearly two million
followers on x I know that I've been doing this
work for a very long time. I have earned the
trust of the magabase, and obviously the President takes into
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account what I have to say. Oftentimes, the President will
call me, ask me for my opinion, ask me for
my advice. He's admitted this publicly when asked by reporters,
And so why wouldn't Why wouldn't politicians in Israel and
high level officials in Israel want to take meetings with me?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Why wouldn't they?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Mean, I am one of the most outspoken and well
known Jewish conservative leaders in America, and I am approaching
this from an America first perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I agree, we're thirty eight trillion dollars in debt.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
We need to have a conversation about cutting off eight
not just to Israel.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But to all countries.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
We don't need to be the sugar daddy of every
single country in the world when we really need to
be advocating for countries to be truly sovereign. However, it's
a double edged sword if Americans are going to say
we hate Israel. We don't want to be giving aid
to Israel anymore, we don't want our money funding Israel's wars.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
We don't want to die for Israel.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I mean, there's all these ridiculous talking points about how
Americans are dying for Israel when we don't have troops
on the ground in Israel. If anything, Israelis are dying
for Americans. You know, one of the things that I
did see when I was in Israel is I met
a lot of IDF soldiers and they're on the front
lines doing the counter terrorism intelligence work that we are
benefiting from with our shared intel agreement with the Israeli government,
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and so there's a huge PTS.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Issue and.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Angry.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Second, by the way, we are going to have brother
Cats is going to be on here eleven o'clock next week.
We have Cats on the While Israel Slept. I'm going
to do the second half of the interview we did
the first half about the intelligence failures. We're going to
talk about the IDEF and particularly in the first couple
of days of the October seventh situation.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
A magnificent book. If you have not, if you have.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Not purchased While Israel Slept, it's absolutely astounding, a great book.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Real quickly, I'm going to hold you see the break
at Laura.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But the as you're going into Israel and meeting with
senior level people and you're talking about, Hey, look, guys,
we want to be a sovereign nation. The United States
is going to America first, going to do what they're
going to do. We got to be Israel first and
do what we're going to do. Give me a minute
on this for your break.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
How is this?
Speaker 6 (13:36):
I just want to make it very clear. I'm not
Israeli when I say we. I'm approaching this from a
perspective as an American. I'm not Israel first. I'm America first.
But this isn't the best interest of America and also Israel.
We're thirty eight trillion dollars in debt, and the Israelis
understand this. They understand that there's an optics issue right now.
I don't think that this is an issue that's been
created by the Israeli government, but it's just a reality.
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I don't think that we're going to be able, doesn't
matter how much money the Israeli government.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Throws at this.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I don't think that we're going to be able to
convince a large portion of the American voting population that
our relationship with Israel is beneficial. I believe that it
is beneficial. I mean, the math is pretty clear. We
got a forty eight billion dollar return on our investment
for the aid that we give them, Steve, and we
get enormous amounts of counter terrorism intelligence that is protecting
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Americans from the threat of global Islamic jihad. However, you
can say this, you can present all the graphs, all
the evidence, show people the numbers.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
There's a lot of people out there who truly do
have Israel derangement syndrome.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
And that's the argument that I was trying to make
on your show last time I was on, and so
I think that they were appreciative and grateful.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I found out that it's actually.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
A lot of is really hang on one second? On
one second?
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Where does it go to?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Commercial break? Laura Lumers in the war room? Short break
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Speaker 3 (14:56):
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Speaker 2 (15:31):
There's a huge article on Newsweek right now about our
guest Laura Lumer. Laura came out a couple of days
ago and said Magus far from dead and listened out
different policies that got to work better, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They have a huge article and they have a quote
from Kareem Jean Pierre. Remember we called her zen Master
because she never talked about anything real.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
It's called kind of the very zen.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
She referred to Laura Lumer as hateful, repugnant and racist.
Lara Lumer, while you're in Israel, why would senior understanding
you're a huge influencer, You've got the President's here, you
are have a very set convictions about America first, also
about the MAGA movement, policies like H one B, visas,
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et cetera. But why would they take your discussion with
them as about their sovereignty and take it seriously and
actually look like they're going to move to do something
to the to the point of people that countered that
took a long time to brief Axios in brief the
Times of Israel to counter what you were saying, right
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and to do it in really a huge kind of
a middle finger way, Hey, baby, how about this a
twenty years now? Are we not going to stop taking
American aid because we want to stop being part you know,
we're going to make our own decisions and not have
America part of that. But we're going to do a
twenty year deal and maybe even do a bigger deal.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Ma'am.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Well, look, I think that there's there's no discounting the
fact that there's a huge business and money making opportunity
right now for people pushing anti Israel rhetoric. As I
said before, it's kind of like Trump derangement syndrome. This
concept of Israel derangement syndrome has people foaming at the mouth.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Steve over anti Israel.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
You asked me why I think right, But you asked
me why I think the axios would live. I'm explaining
to you they lied, they.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Pushed the fake story.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You're saying no, but that story was clearly given to
them that actions would never pretty.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
But that's I'm trying to answer your question and explain
why I think they're doing this. I think that they
knew that all of the Israel haters were going to
jump on that article, which is exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What they did.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
I mean, everybody who hates Israel posted that article and
they were like, see, you know the the United States
government is completely controlled by Israel. They tried to say
that this was tied to the new Epstein emails. There
were all these conspiracy these that came out, and meanwhile
it was a completely fabricated story. I mean, Barack Revied
completely made up this story. And I know for a
fact because.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's they want to call me la la Lara. You're
telling me the Times of Israel. I think it was
the Jerusalem Post. You tell me the most reputable publications
in Israel, all three of them, with the Axios and
a guy. Quite frankly, it has been pretty accurate. They
made it up out a whole cloth. This was given
to them.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
We know that they went to them.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
How do we know they went to them? I don't
trust anything that Axios says. They can say that people
went to them all they want, It doesn't necessarily mean
that they actually went to you.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Are you making the case that Mike Allen and Jim
vander Hay and what they've done with was what's his name, Robot,
the guy that covers Israel that They literally made up
a story of whole cloth just because they saw your
tweets and what you were talking about Israeli sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
They made it.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I don't know why it.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Was made up.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
But I do know for my conversations with individuals at
the White House press shop that Barack is constantly making
up lies and he's a huge headache for the White House,
and he's constantly post out fake news, and so I
wouldn't put it past them. I mean, why would they
come out with this report and then twenty minutes later
you see Prime Minister's doing an interview with Aaron Milan.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It just doesn't make much sense to me. I think
it's strange.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't think it's strange at all. I think if
people inside the Israeli governments say, hey, we don't want
this woman who's very powerful to start setting a narrative
that we're breaking off a lot of the people over
there don't want to break off at all your idea sovereignty,
they would say would be close to the suicide for
the country.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
They're not ready for you. A lot of people do.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I met a lot of people in Israel that actually do.
I met a lot of people in Israel, including officials,
who have told me that this has been a discussion
amongst the people of Israel for quite some time. It's
actually a big national debate in Israel about whether or
not Israel would be better off because there's a lot
of people that don't want to be handcuffed by the
United States military telling them you can't bomb the Acatola,
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you can't go into a.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
People Listen, it is a debate. Well, lucky whereby he's
in the States next week, he's going to be by here. Also,
we're going to get a time. He and I have
had this debate. He says, Hey, he said now for
six months or eight months, it's time. Now, you got
to cut it off. We got to go our own direction.
My point is it is a debate. It's going to
be a bigger debate. The people on the other side
of the debate from you basically went to Axios and said, hey,
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we're actually going to work a twenty year deal. I
don't believe at all that the Times of Vision of
the Jerusalem Posts and Axes would sit there and just
go make up a story.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That was a total bald face, like somebody clearly said
to them that we're going to do this and we're
going to work on this.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You don't believe that. You think they just made it up.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Well, I don't know why they would do that. I
mean the person to go to is Prime Minister nets
and Yahoo himself. I mean, why would they just take
it from the horse's mouth directly? He said that his
story was a lie. I mean that's what he said
when he did this interview, and.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
So let's play. That means that would.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Mean, logically speaking, that the story was made up.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No, I think, but look, maybe it didn't happen. I
think what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
There are people in the government that want to counter
what you're saying, which is about because it's a big step,
it's a big psychological staff of what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But people clearly believe that's smart.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I think Nanya who looked out there and said, hey,
I think we're program let's play.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Let's play what he's said. Can we play the club
of Nanyahu?
Speaker 9 (21:13):
You were a few moments late, clearly running a country,
so you're forgiven. But I'm glad you were because this
headline just dropped and I want to start the interview
by asking for your reaction to it. It's on the
Axios news site and it says scoop Israel seeks twenty
year military aid deal with US with America first tweaks.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Is that correct?
Speaker 10 (21:35):
I don't know what they're talking about. My direction is
the exact opposite. You know, when I first became Prime
Minister in nineteen ninety six, I went to the US
Congress and we were receiving financial aid and military aid,
and I said, the first thing is, you know, we're
going to build a high tech, free market, capitalist economy.
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We don't need the financial aid. Phase it out. And
everybody gasped, how dare he? You know, this young prime
minister eager for a pr title, he's giving up billions
of dollars. And I was happy to do it, and
I was right to do it. So we got rid
of that. Now I want to make our arms industry independent, totally,
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as independent as possible. So my direction is the exact opposite.
I don't know who's talking for Israel. I do so
follow what I say, not what is put forward in
some leaks that are not true.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
So Prime Minister, you think it's time to cut military identik.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
All right right there, he says, time to cut military
agrees with you one hundred percent about Israel's sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Where does this go from here, Well.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Look, hopefully this is actually going to be able to
be implemented. It's going to obviously take you some time
to implement this policy. I don't think it's going to happen,
but hopefully there can be this discussion so that by
the end, at least of the end of the Trump
administration over these next three years, we can see an
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end of aid to Israel. I don't think it's going
to be immedia. I think that you would probably agree
with me. It's going to take some time to figure
out how this is going to work exactly. But ultimately
I think that the United States of America will be
better off and Israel will be better off. And I
don't think that we're going to be necessarily financially better off,
because we're going to be forfeiting the forty eight billion
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dollars that we get on this return for our investment
in Israel.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
But clearly the issue.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Of giving aid to Israel has been the center of
a lot of political tension and conflict in our own country,
and so Hopefully this can take the temperature down. We'll
see a decrease and conspiracy theories. We'll see a decrease
in anti Semitism in our country, We'll hopefully see a
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decrease in anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Around the world.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
And hopefully all all of these people who hate Israel,
and these America only isolationist types who truly say that
they are America First, or America only, as Marjorie Trader
Green likes to call herself, maybe they will be consistent
and they will also say, all right, let's cut off
aid to all countries, because if we're going to end
(24:19):
all aid to Israel, then logically speaking, we should just
end all aid to every other country. Steve, it can't
just be, you know, ganging up on Israel for the
sake of ganging up on Israel. I agree, let's end
all aid to Israel, but let's also end all of
the aid to every other country as well.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
The America first perspective.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Would you be open to set aside your.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Time as an investigative, reporter and influencer if the President
asked you to be the American ambassador to Israel during
this transition period.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Ma'ams, I mean Look, if.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
The President asked me to serve, I'd be happy to serve.
I think that I would be better suited helping the
president handle issues of domestic policy.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I mean, if I.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Was working in the White House right now, I don't
think that we would see the President talking about the
need to increase H one B visas or to give
six hundred thousand visas to Chinese students who we all
know are just going to beat Chinese spies. And we
certainly want to be seeing ISIS terrorists in the White
House because I would be pushing back heavily. I think
that with my talents and being as plugged in with
(25:25):
the base as I am, that I would be better
suited working in the White House assisting and advising the
President on domestic policy. But hey, if the President asked
me to assist, I'd be happy to assist. Although I
think that the Ambassador Huckabee is doing a great job
as it is.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, we will leave that. We different that, but we'll
leave that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Laura, where do people go to become one of your
follower followers on Twitter? And where they get your podcasts
that comes on a couple times a week.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, they can follow me on x at Laura Lumer
and also on x at Lumer on Leash and then
my show Lumer on Lee does every Tuesday and Thursday
on Rumble, Rumble dot com slash Laura Lumer again, that's
Rumble dot com slash Laura Lumer. And if you want
to review all of my exclusive articles and investigative reports,
you can follow me on my website lumored dot com. Again,
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that's lumored dot com and that's where people can support
my work.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, any of these journalists that come out to attack
Laura Lumer influence, just look at the week in Israel.
It started with her tweets. You then had Axios, the
Times of Issuel. I believe the Jerusalem Post all put
out definitive stories.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Totally reverse with the Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Benjamin Netanyahu yesday with the interview with the Australian reporter.
Completely back the Laura Lumber play. Laura, thank you so
much for joining us. Short Break. Joe Gilbert, next in
the War Room.
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out all out today, Joe Gilbert, we're really pressed for time.
I got y'all here on another great piece. When Joe
Gilbert gets on the topic, he's like a dog with
a bone. He's on Eric Swalwell, but he's been on
this for a while. Give me a minute. On Laura
Lumer going to Israel and saying, hey, look, guys, let's
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be a sovereign nation. Let's just cut the aid, do
it ourselves, and then you know, as an ally, we
can talk to America and keep them informed. But if
they're not paying for things and we're not dragging them
into things, we can do what we want, including takedown
turn if we so want. Your thoughts are.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
I think maybe she was effective because it's not really
a new argument in Israel. For forty or fifty years,
especially on the right, they've been arguing that every time
Israel gets in a war or makes a piece deal,
it's the United States pressuring Israel by offering more aid
or offering to or saying they're going to withdraw aid
if Israel doesn't agree. So even the war in Gaza
(28:55):
was caused by Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in two thousand
and six or seven, in which the United States promise
more aid. The Egyptian peace Treaty was based on the
United States promising massive aid, and that hasn't worked out
at all. Egypt is still a hostile country to Israel.
They helped Hamas get armed withdrawing from southern Lebanon. Israel
(29:15):
withdrew without any security arrangement whatsoever. Again, in Israel, they
felt that the United States was unduly influencing Israel because
of promises for extra aid or promises or threats to
withdraw aid. So it's not a new argument. And a
lot of Israelis think they'll be better off without the
(29:35):
US financial aid.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And that's like, we'll have a different we'll have a
discussion later, Gilbert, because you know this pretty well. But
that's also a difference of understanding of the Jewish donors
to the Republican Party and actually people that live in
Israel and have to deal with the reality. Let's put
a pin in that. We'll come back to it, because
I don't want to run out of time on your Swallwell.
So the President, the Justice Department, and others are going
(30:00):
after Swalwell just like tiss Jams and others that have
these fraudulent mortgages and or you know, fraudulent bank statements
and defrauding banks for lower interest rates. And he's making
a case he's President's number one enemy and they're coming
after him. We said yesterday on the show you Know
with Mike Davis, I had Natalie was sitting in as
a coho show state, why are we not going after
(30:20):
Fang Fang. I mean the bigger problem with with Swalwell's
not his mortgage. That's I'm sure something that people will
get to the bottom of, but that he was, you know,
open information to the Chinese Commis Party.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
He was honeypotted. And you've done some research on all
of this. What do you got for?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You got a brilliant article up on Gateway punnet. What
do you got, sir well?
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Don't forget Dan Feinstein was also penetrated by the Chinese
intelligence for many years and not much really happened. Look Swalwell,
we took a look at his mortgage. He declared he
bought and purchased a home in Washington, DC that he
declared is his principal residence, while not having any verifiable addressing
in California. According to the US Constitution, you have to
(30:58):
be an inhabitant of the state that you represent California
Law Code three forty nine, you actually have to have
a physical address and live there. Swawell has big financial problems.
I looked at his financial disclosure since twenty eleven when
he entered Congress. He still has not paid off his
student loans. He still has the same debt to American
(31:20):
Express Chase Bank. He's a financial disaster, and that might
be why he can't maintain a home in California like
he's supposed to. And in today's article I wrote about
how his twenty ten divorce, him and his wife were
exchanging and bickering over can openers and salad tossers and plates,
(31:43):
clearly because he didn't have any money. So even though
he's made one hundred and hundred and seventy four thousand
a year in Congress, he's never paid off any debt.
So that makes the whole Chinese spying Fang Fang thing
of more concern. Where's this guy's money going? And why
can't he payoff debts? And why can't he maintain a
home in California.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Just give the audience a minute on the Fang Fang situation.
Why is that something that China hawks and people that
are anti CCP, like you know, Natalie Winner's war room
ban and others continue to harp on. Why do people
harp on the Fang Fang situation? What's such a big
deal about it?
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Well, there's a long term influence operation by different countries,
sometimes Russia and certainly China, to penetrate US political parties
and influence them by placing influencers inside people that they
think have potential to become president one day. Look Tim
Walsh in Minnesota, who used to go to China every
(32:43):
year for many many years. He was under great influence
from the Chinese Fang Fang. The FBI apparently felt she
was some kind of part of a spying operation and
they had to tell Eric Swalwell to get rid of her,
which he did. But then Swalwo was kicked off the
Intelligence Committee because of the risk that he posed. So
it's been a long term threat. The FBI is constantly
(33:05):
following around. You know, how can they follow around six
hundred thousand Chinese students. But there's definitely an effort to
penetrate the American political system and influence our politics, from
Joe Biden to Tim Walsh to Eric Swalwell.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Just foy, let's go.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
The authorities came to him and notified him that this
was a problem, and this is the reason that he
basically broke off the relationship or at least toned it down.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
That's all we know.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
We know very little about it.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Even the Dane Feinstein, her driver for twenty years apparently
worked for the Chinese Communist Party and that was the
last we heard about it. So we don't get enough
information about this stuff. And Eric Swalwell and Tim Walsh
are still serving and they won't answer any question. So
it's definitely frustrating not to be able to really find
(33:58):
out what happened in these situations and why there's never
any prosecutions.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
If you want to see the amazing story of his
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At least I think some of the current problems has
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I want to get your thoughts more about what Laura's
talking about in this movement over in Israel about Israeli sovereignty.
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In fact, Dan Flow is Dan fluent up? Can I
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Even as I speak, Dan Floyd? Is Dan Floyd going
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You're working on some of this. We got the J
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The J six Prison Course is going to release their song,
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I think that's the fifth.
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So yeah, one of the main things that I try
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Perfect. Okay, I'd love that poster. By the way, everybody
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week on MAHA, the Children's Health Defense Conference. One of
those you did some sidebar interviews. Do we have any
idea when those interviews is going to be up, because
I know they should.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, they should start to be trickling out as early
as Monday. We're gonna we'll make a big splash with them.
And it was I did like probably nine hours a
day of interviews, and I thought I was pretty up
on the back stuff. And you know, I knew quite
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And then to see uh, some of these healthy people
who have come through that I got to I got
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Speaker 4 (40:05):
And I couldn't be.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Happier that Bobby Kennedy's in there fighting that good fight.
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Now we're gonna have we'll make a big launch on
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
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You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Mega media?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, welcome back. It is Friday, fourteenth September, Year of
Verlert twenty twenty five. Only hitters only today. Roger Kimba,
Rahem Cassam or Laura Lumer's going to join us in Momentarily.
I was so engrossed on and Joe Lavarnay from Treasury,
very smart guy. O. Were there really the kind of
the head messaging guy for a secretary Bessant?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I haven't done.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He reads Birch Gold, take your phone out now more
than ever you've seeing the turbulence right now. But Michael Burry,
the UH, the Big Short Guy, remember the UH prey
played by I think Christian Bale in the movie The
Big Short Guy shut down a fact on the front
page of the UH. He shorted Pallanteer and he shorted
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Navidia the other day, big short investor Burry shuts. He wrote,
he shut down his after shorting them, and the shorts
weren't huge positions after shorting them. I guess as a test,
he closed his He closed his UH his fund. He
said he couldn't. He couldn't. He doesn't know how to
value these artificial intelligence companies anymore. And I'll get to
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this whole thing that was in zero headgesday. But the
five trillion dollars of capital costs and this is not
like some ten year projection.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
This is like the here and.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Now five trillion dollars just to build out the data
centers and the energy right and you don't think your
electric bill is going to be hit a wait for it,
but worse than that of the five trend they know
they need now one trend's got to come from you.
It's a hole that they can't because they don't want
to sell equity. They don't be deluded say look for
you suckers to pay for it, and you get none
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of the upside. This is the grossest example since the
two thousand and eight bailouts of the system looking for
to socialize the risk. That's the way they're mitigating the risk.
They're going to socialize the risk. That's a fancy term
of saying, that's on your shoulders. You're the full faith
and credit of the United States government, any of these guarantees,
and they're going to keep all the upside. They keep
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the ups you mitigate the risk. Well, we're not going
to allow that to happen. You've been treated like suckers
for two longs. That's not going to happen. But that's
the plan. Very scary, and of course the advances in AI.
We have no earthy idea what's happening in these labs
right now, because you have more regulation on Capitol Hill
to open a nail salon than any of the four
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Frontier labs. Have it all on artificial intelligence. Okay, Laura
Lumer joins us, this reason I love Laura Lumer. Courage
it is courage is the virtue of which all the
other virtues rest. And one thing you say about Lumer,
She's one of the most courageous people I know, an
absolute warrior.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So I just want to start off.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean your bona fides as being one of the
leading voices of anti Muslim brotherhood of radical Islam. I mean,
you've been sued, You've had to pay fines, nobody came
to your defense. One of the biggest defenders of Israel,
one of the biggest defenders of the Jewish people, but
always in a context. You put in a context. One
of the biggest contexts is about the Muslim brotherhood and
(03:57):
what they're trying to do around Israel with all these
radical Turk Muslim and Arab nations.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
On Tuesday, I believe it was.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You came out with a couple of tweets, but you
talked about the sovereignty of Israel and to really have
Israel not be a protectorate or quote unquote not be
the greatest ally, but to be an independent or sovereign nation.
It needed to stop this four billion dollars a year
or whatever the number is of American arms, and it
needed really to make a statement that you're an independent
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nation and you're going to make your own independent decisions,
and hey, you're always an ally of the United States,
but you're an ally like any independent nation, any sovereign nation.
On Thursday morning, Axios, who I think is pretty dialed
in over there, has this article Scoop exclusive that there
is now a twenty year deal, that is a twenty
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year memoranum of understanding, that there would be the commitment
of the four billion or five bian whatever it is,
or for twenty years that would have some tweaks of
some our first language in it, but essent you would
be doubling down on basically Israel's protectorate. And as I
read that, I go gosh, I think they took Laura
Lumber pretty seriously because somebody senior in the Israeli government
(05:12):
just put a shot across her bow and they did Access.
Now two minutes after Access the Times of Israel, every
big paper had it, and this thing had been briefed.
You could tell they were talking to senior people's, senior
people in the Netnahu government. Then yesterday afternoon, an Australian
reporter who wanted to said.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
You first, I told you that the story was faking.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes, yes, yes, I should say. She texted me said
this story is totally phony. It's false, it's not happening.
Then a couple hours later bb came out and said
absolutely is false in fact, and we'll play the BB
thing a little while. In fact, we're essentially embracing Laura
Lumi's plan. We need our own independence, our own sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We don't need the money. We want to wean ourselves
off it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So just walk us through behind the scenes, what the
hell happened in Israel this week that you started this
kind of movement to you know, get your sovereignty. But
there's obviously some senior folks somewhere that convinced Axios in
the Times of Israel that in fact, the exact opposite
was happening.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Man, Well, obviously we've seen a pivot, right, Steve.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
There's a lot of anti Israel rhetoric.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
On the left and also now on the right, where
we're seeing, you know, extreme hostility towards not just the
State of Israel, but also Jewish people. I called this
Israel derangement syndrome. And I know you and I kind
of got into it back and forth last time I
was on your show. But my point was that, you know,
we need to start focusing on the bigger picture. People
(06:40):
want to criticize Israel. When you break down the number
and you look at the actual numbers of aid, the
value of aid, you have three point eight billion dollars
per year. Sometimes it's three point three, sometimes it's three
point eight.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That we give Israel.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Now, there was a report, Steve that came out the
other day that showed that our return on that investment
is about forty eight billion dollars a year. Whether that's
through weapons sales or technology or you know, investments in pharmaceuticals,
whatever it may be, we certainly get a lot more
out of our relationship with Israel then we give to
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Israel every single year. However, doesn't matter what the numbers are,
there's no convincing a very large fraction of gen Z
and also a growing number of leftists and also conservatives,
that our relationship with Israel is beneficial. That's not going
to change the fact that Israel's always going to be
our ally, as you just pointed out. And so when
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I was in Israel, I met with military officials. I
met with members of the kanesse I, met with high
level Israeli politicians, and I had discussions about this, and
ultimately what I said is, well, why don't you just
embrace cutting off a cutting off aid to Israel.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
What's the worst that could happen. You're a sovereign nation.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I mean, if the United States is getting forty eight
billion dollars a year out of the relationship with Israel
and our investment into Israel, then it's our loss. Really,
it's our loss as the United States of America if
America doesn't want to appreciate the return on investment with
the aid that we're providing Israel every single year. I
also told these officials when I met with them that
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I don't think that Israel does a good enough job
highlighting the benefit of our.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Relationship with Israel. What do I mean by that?
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Well, people say, oh, well, they're just trying to interfere
in our elections with APAC.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
First of all, I'm not here to defend APAK.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I think that APAC should actually have to register with FARA. However,
when we cut off a to Israel, that's the great thing.
We're not going to need Fara anymore. We're not going
to excuse me, We're not going to need APAC anymore,
because the whole point of a pack is to convince
politicians in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
To support Israel.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
So this whole debate about you know, Israeli interference in
our elections, poof, it's gone, it disappears. And so we're
able to do two things simultaneously. We're able to help
Israel truly become a sovereign nation. We're going to take
these golden handcuffs as I like to call them, off
of the Israelis because America first means not dictating what
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other countries do if you're truly a sovereign nation. And
I know that she'll agree with me on this, Steve.
America first means not telling other countries what to do.
And you made that argument during the two year war
between Israel and Hamas, and people say, well, we're paying
for those you know, those weapons that are being used
to bomb people in Gaza, So we have every right
to tell Israel what to do as it relates to
(09:30):
not bombing Iran or not leveling Gauza. Well, if we're
not giving Israel three point eight billion.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Dollars a year. Who are we? Who are we steve
to tell Israel what they can and can't do.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
So when it.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Comes to taking out the Ayatola, when it comes to
going into Gaza, they violate the seasfire. Americans are no
longer going to be able to complain about Israel perhaps
assassinating the Ayatola or.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Flattening Gaza rights.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
As ominous as it may sound to the critics of Israel,
that's what it means if we're truly going to be
America first, and we're not going to be giving Israel
that's three point eight billion dollars a year and benefiting
from the forty eight billion dollars in return.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That's we used to see.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's y'all who.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Before argument, before we get to the punchline, I want
to make sure we go back you because there's a
lot of criticism here of Trump and saying, hey, how
weak is Trump's understanding of geopolitics or national security. He's
got Laura Lumer coming in and telling me about the
national security. Guys are not really America first, they're neo cons.
(10:36):
But when you went to Israel, you actually had senior
level people that took meetings.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Why would they take a meeting with Laura Lumer? Why
would they take a.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Meeting with Laura Lumer and have Laura Lumer talk to
them about what their sovereignty is. That's pretty that's a
scoop right there. Why would they do that?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Well, Look, I think that a lot of the lies
that are pushed out against me, they're malicious. I think
a lot of them are you know, are spewed against
me because I am Jewish and because I'm a woman.
I mean, I'm not trying to parent feminist talking points
right now, but there is this animosity towards outsiders. I mean,
people have animosity towards you, Steve. And because I'm not
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an elected official, and because I'm not an official advisor,
people think that I shouldn't have a seat at the
table or I shouldn't be able to share my opinion.
But you know, I have nearly two nearly two million
followers on x I know that I've been doing this
work for a very long time. I have earned the
trust of the magabase, and obviously the President takes into
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account what I have to say. Oftentimes, the President will
call me, ask me for my opinion, ask me for
my advice. He's admitted this publicly when asked by reporters,
And so why wouldn't Why wouldn't politicians in Israel and
high level officials in Israel want to take meetings with me?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Why wouldn't they?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Mean, I am one of the most outspoken and well
known Jewish conservative leaders in America, and I am approaching
this from an America first perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I agree, we're thirty eight trillion dollars in debt.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
We need to have a conversation about cutting off eight
not just to Israel.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But to all countries.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
We don't need to be the sugar daddy of every
single country in the world when we really need to
be advocating for countries to be truly sovereign. However, it's
a double edged sword if Americans are going to say
we hate Israel. We don't want to be giving aid
to Israel anymore, we don't want our money funding Israel's wars.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
We don't want to die for Israel.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
I mean, there's all these ridiculous talking points about how
Americans are dying for Israel when we don't have troops
on the ground in Israel. If anything, Israelis are dying
for Americans. You know, one of the things that I
did see when I was in Israel is I met
a lot of IDF soldiers and they're on the front
lines doing the counter terrorism intelligence work that we are
benefiting from with our shared intel agreement with the Israeli government,
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and so there's a huge PTS.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Issue and.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Angry.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Second, by the way, we are going to have brother
Cats is going to be on here eleven o'clock next week.
We have Cats on the While Israel Slept. I'm going
to do the second half of the interview we did
the first half about the intelligence failures. We're going to
talk about the IDEF and particularly in the first couple
of days of the October seventh situation.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
A magnificent book. If you have not, if you have.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Not purchased While Israel Slept, it's absolutely astounding, a great book.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Real quickly, I'm going to hold you see the break
at Laura.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But the as you're going into Israel and meeting with
senior level people and you're talking about, Hey, look, guys,
we want to be a sovereign nation. The United States
is going to America first, going to do what they're
going to do. We got to be Israel first and
do what we're going to do. Give me a minute
on this for your break.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
How is this?
Speaker 6 (13:36):
I just want to make it very clear. I'm not
Israeli when I say we. I'm approaching this from a
perspective as an American. I'm not Israel first. I'm America first.
But this isn't the best interest of America and also Israel.
We're thirty eight trillion dollars in debt, and the Israelis
understand this. They understand that there's an optics issue right now.
I don't think that this is an issue that's been
created by the Israeli government, but it's just a reality.
(13:58):
I don't think that we're going to be able, doesn't
matter how much money the Israeli government.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Throws at this.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I don't think that we're going to be able to
convince a large portion of the American voting population that
our relationship with Israel is beneficial. I believe that it
is beneficial. I mean, the math is pretty clear. We
got a forty eight billion dollar return on our investment
for the aid that we give them, Steve, and we
get enormous amounts of counter terrorism intelligence that is protecting
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Americans from the threat of global Islamic jihad. However, you
can say this, you can present all the graphs, all
the evidence, show people the numbers.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
There's a lot of people out there who truly do
have Israel derangement syndrome.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
And that's the argument that I was trying to make
on your show last time I was on, and so
I think that they were appreciative and grateful.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I found out that it's actually.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
A lot of is really hang on one second? On
one second?
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Where does it go to?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Commercial break? Laura Lumers in the war room? Short break
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Speaker 3 (14:56):
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Speaker 2 (15:31):
There's a huge article on Newsweek right now about our
guest Laura Lumer. Laura came out a couple of days
ago and said Magus far from dead and listened out
different policies that got to work better, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They have a huge article and they have a quote
from Kareem Jean Pierre. Remember we called her zen Master
because she never talked about anything real.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
It's called kind of the very zen.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
She referred to Laura Lumer as hateful, repugnant and racist.
Lara Lumer, while you're in Israel, why would senior understanding
you're a huge influencer, You've got the President's here, you
are have a very set convictions about America first, also
about the MAGA movement, policies like H one B, visas,
(16:14):
et cetera. But why would they take your discussion with
them as about their sovereignty and take it seriously and
actually look like they're going to move to do something
to the to the point of people that countered that
took a long time to brief Axios in brief the
Times of Israel to counter what you were saying, right
(16:37):
and to do it in really a huge kind of
a middle finger way, Hey, baby, how about this a
twenty years now? Are we not going to stop taking
American aid because we want to stop being part you know,
we're going to make our own decisions and not have
America part of that. But we're going to do a
twenty year deal and maybe even do a bigger deal.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Ma'am.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Well, look, I think that there's there's no discounting the
fact that there's a huge business and money making opportunity
right now for people pushing anti Israel rhetoric. As I
said before, it's kind of like Trump derangement syndrome. This
concept of Israel derangement syndrome has people foaming at the mouth.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Steve over anti Israel.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
You asked me why I think right, But you asked
me why I think the axios would live. I'm explaining
to you they lied, they.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Pushed the fake story.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You're saying no, but that story was clearly given to
them that actions would never pretty.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
But that's I'm trying to answer your question and explain
why I think they're doing this. I think that they
knew that all of the Israel haters were going to
jump on that article, which is exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
What they did.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
I mean, everybody who hates Israel posted that article and
they were like, see, you know the the United States
government is completely controlled by Israel. They tried to say
that this was tied to the new Epstein emails. There
were all these conspiracy these that came out, and meanwhile
it was a completely fabricated story. I mean, Barack Revied
completely made up this story. And I know for a
fact because.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's they want to call me la la Lara. You're
telling me the Times of Israel. I think it was
the Jerusalem Post. You tell me the most reputable publications
in Israel, all three of them, with the Axios and
a guy. Quite frankly, it has been pretty accurate. They
made it up out a whole cloth. This was given
to them.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
We know that they went to them.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
How do we know they went to them? I don't
trust anything that Axios says. They can say that people
went to them all they want, It doesn't necessarily mean
that they actually went to you.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Are you making the case that Mike Allen and Jim
vander Hay and what they've done with was what's his name, Robot,
the guy that covers Israel that They literally made up
a story of whole cloth just because they saw your
tweets and what you were talking about Israeli sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
They made it.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I don't know why it.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Was made up.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
But I do know for my conversations with individuals at
the White House press shop that Barack is constantly making
up lies and he's a huge headache for the White House,
and he's constantly post out fake news, and so I
wouldn't put it past them. I mean, why would they
come out with this report and then twenty minutes later
you see Prime Minister's doing an interview with Aaron Milan.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It just doesn't make much sense to me. I think
it's strange.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't think it's strange at all. I think if
people inside the Israeli governments say, hey, we don't want
this woman who's very powerful to start setting a narrative
that we're breaking off a lot of the people over
there don't want to break off at all your idea sovereignty,
they would say would be close to the suicide for
the country.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
They're not ready for you. A lot of people do.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I met a lot of people in Israel that actually do.
I met a lot of people in Israel, including officials,
who have told me that this has been a discussion
amongst the people of Israel for quite some time. It's
actually a big national debate in Israel about whether or
not Israel would be better off because there's a lot
of people that don't want to be handcuffed by the
United States military telling them you can't bomb the Acatola,
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you can't go into a.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
People Listen, it is a debate. Well, lucky whereby he's
in the States next week, he's going to be by here. Also,
we're going to get a time. He and I have
had this debate. He says, Hey, he said now for
six months or eight months, it's time. Now, you got
to cut it off. We got to go our own direction.
My point is it is a debate. It's going to
be a bigger debate. The people on the other side
of the debate from you basically went to Axios and said, hey,
(20:18):
we're actually going to work a twenty year deal. I
don't believe at all that the Times of Vision of
the Jerusalem Posts and Axes would sit there and just
go make up a story.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That was a total bald face, like somebody clearly said
to them that we're going to do this and we're
going to work on this.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You don't believe that. You think they just made it up.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Well, I don't know why they would do that. I
mean the person to go to is Prime Minister nets
and Yahoo himself. I mean, why would they just take
it from the horse's mouth directly? He said that his
story was a lie. I mean that's what he said
when he did this interview, and.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
So let's play. That means that would.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Mean, logically speaking, that the story was made up.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No, I think, but look, maybe it didn't happen. I
think what happened.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
There are people in the government that want to counter
what you're saying, which is about because it's a big step,
it's a big psychological staff of what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But people clearly believe that's smart.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And I think Nanya who looked out there and said, hey,
I think we're program let's play.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Let's play what he's said. Can we play the club
of Nanyahu?
Speaker 9 (21:13):
You were a few moments late, clearly running a country,
so you're forgiven. But I'm glad you were because this
headline just dropped and I want to start the interview
by asking for your reaction to it. It's on the
Axios news site and it says scoop Israel seeks twenty
year military aid deal with US with America first tweaks.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Is that correct?
Speaker 10 (21:35):
I don't know what they're talking about. My direction is
the exact opposite. You know, when I first became Prime
Minister in nineteen ninety six, I went to the US
Congress and we were receiving financial aid and military aid,
and I said, the first thing is, you know, we're
going to build a high tech, free market, capitalist economy.
(21:56):
We don't need the financial aid. Phase it out. And
everybody gasped, how dare he? You know, this young prime
minister eager for a pr title, he's giving up billions
of dollars. And I was happy to do it, and
I was right to do it. So we got rid
of that. Now I want to make our arms industry independent, totally,
(22:19):
as independent as possible. So my direction is the exact opposite.
I don't know who's talking for Israel. I do so
follow what I say, not what is put forward in
some leaks that are not true.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
So Prime Minister, you think it's time to cut military identik.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
All right right there, he says, time to cut military
agrees with you one hundred percent about Israel's sovereignty.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Where does this go from here, Well.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Look, hopefully this is actually going to be able to
be implemented. It's going to obviously take you some time
to implement this policy. I don't think it's going to happen,
but hopefully there can be this discussion so that by
the end, at least of the end of the Trump
administration over these next three years, we can see an
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end of aid to Israel. I don't think it's going
to be immedia. I think that you would probably agree
with me. It's going to take some time to figure
out how this is going to work exactly. But ultimately
I think that the United States of America will be
better off and Israel will be better off. And I
don't think that we're going to be necessarily financially better off,
because we're going to be forfeiting the forty eight billion
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dollars that we get on this return for our investment
in Israel.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
But clearly the issue.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Of giving aid to Israel has been the center of
a lot of political tension and conflict in our own country,
and so Hopefully this can take the temperature down. We'll
see a decrease and conspiracy theories. We'll see a decrease
in anti Semitism in our country, We'll hopefully see a
(23:57):
decrease in anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Around the world.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
And hopefully all all of these people who hate Israel,
and these America only isolationist types who truly say that
they are America First, or America only, as Marjorie Trader
Green likes to call herself, maybe they will be consistent
and they will also say, all right, let's cut off
aid to all countries, because if we're going to end
(24:19):
all aid to Israel, then logically speaking, we should just
end all aid to every other country. Steve, it can't
just be, you know, ganging up on Israel for the
sake of ganging up on Israel. I agree, let's end
all aid to Israel, but let's also end all of
the aid to every other country as well.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
The America first perspective.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Would you be open to set aside your.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Time as an investigative, reporter and influencer if the President
asked you to be the American ambassador to Israel during
this transition period.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Ma'ams, I mean Look, if.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
The President asked me to serve, I'd be happy to serve.
I think that I would be better suited helping the
president handle issues of domestic policy.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I mean, if I.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Was working in the White House right now, I don't
think that we would see the President talking about the
need to increase H one B visas or to give
six hundred thousand visas to Chinese students who we all
know are just going to beat Chinese spies. And we
certainly want to be seeing ISIS terrorists in the White
House because I would be pushing back heavily. I think
that with my talents and being as plugged in with
(25:25):
the base as I am, that I would be better
suited working in the White House assisting and advising the
President on domestic policy. But hey, if the President asked
me to assist, I'd be happy to assist. Although I
think that the Ambassador Huckabee is doing a great job
as it is.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, we will leave that. We different that, but we'll
leave that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Laura, where do people go to become one of your
follower followers on Twitter? And where they get your podcasts
that comes on a couple times a week.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, they can follow me on x at Laura Lumer
and also on x at Lumer on Leash and then
my show Lumer on Lee does every Tuesday and Thursday
on Rumble, Rumble dot com slash Laura Lumer again, that's
Rumble dot com slash Laura Lumer. And if you want
to review all of my exclusive articles and investigative reports,
you can follow me on my website lumored dot com. Again,
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that's lumored dot com and that's where people can support
my work.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, any of these journalists that come out to attack
Laura Lumer influence, just look at the week in Israel.
It started with her tweets. You then had Axios, the
Times of Issuel. I believe the Jerusalem Post all put
out definitive stories.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Totally reverse with the Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Benjamin Netanyahu yesday with the interview with the Australian reporter.
Completely back the Laura Lumber play. Laura, thank you so
much for joining us. Short Break. Joe Gilbert, next in
the War Room.
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out all out today, Joe Gilbert, we're really pressed for time.
I got y'all here on another great piece. When Joe
Gilbert gets on the topic, he's like a dog with
a bone. He's on Eric Swalwell, but he's been on
this for a while. Give me a minute. On Laura
Lumer going to Israel and saying, hey, look, guys, let's
(28:17):
be a sovereign nation. Let's just cut the aid, do
it ourselves, and then you know, as an ally, we
can talk to America and keep them informed. But if
they're not paying for things and we're not dragging them
into things, we can do what we want, including takedown
turn if we so want. Your thoughts are.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
I think maybe she was effective because it's not really
a new argument in Israel. For forty or fifty years,
especially on the right, they've been arguing that every time
Israel gets in a war or makes a piece deal,
it's the United States pressuring Israel by offering more aid
or offering to or saying they're going to withdraw aid
if Israel doesn't agree. So even the war in Gaza
(28:55):
was caused by Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in two thousand
and six or seven, in which the United States promise
more aid. The Egyptian peace Treaty was based on the
United States promising massive aid, and that hasn't worked out
at all. Egypt is still a hostile country to Israel.
They helped Hamas get armed withdrawing from southern Lebanon. Israel
(29:15):
withdrew without any security arrangement whatsoever. Again, in Israel, they
felt that the United States was unduly influencing Israel because
of promises for extra aid or promises or threats to
withdraw aid. So it's not a new argument. And a
lot of Israelis think they'll be better off without the
(29:35):
US financial aid.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And that's like, we'll have a different we'll have a
discussion later, Gilbert, because you know this pretty well. But
that's also a difference of understanding of the Jewish donors
to the Republican Party and actually people that live in
Israel and have to deal with the reality. Let's put
a pin in that. We'll come back to it, because
I don't want to run out of time on your Swallwell.
So the President, the Justice Department, and others are going
(30:00):
after Swalwell just like tiss Jams and others that have
these fraudulent mortgages and or you know, fraudulent bank statements
and defrauding banks for lower interest rates. And he's making
a case he's President's number one enemy and they're coming
after him. We said yesterday on the show you Know
with Mike Davis, I had Natalie was sitting in as
a coho show state, why are we not going after
(30:20):
Fang Fang. I mean the bigger problem with with Swalwell's
not his mortgage. That's I'm sure something that people will
get to the bottom of, but that he was, you know,
open information to the Chinese Commis Party.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
He was honeypotted. And you've done some research on all
of this. What do you got for?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You got a brilliant article up on Gateway punnet. What
do you got, sir well?
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Don't forget Dan Feinstein was also penetrated by the Chinese
intelligence for many years and not much really happened. Look Swalwell,
we took a look at his mortgage. He declared he
bought and purchased a home in Washington, DC that he
declared is his principal residence, while not having any verifiable addressing
in California. According to the US Constitution, you have to
(30:58):
be an inhabitant of the state that you represent California
Law Code three forty nine, you actually have to have
a physical address and live there. Swawell has big financial problems.
I looked at his financial disclosure since twenty eleven when
he entered Congress. He still has not paid off his
student loans. He still has the same debt to American
(31:20):
Express Chase Bank. He's a financial disaster, and that might
be why he can't maintain a home in California like
he's supposed to. And in today's article I wrote about
how his twenty ten divorce, him and his wife were
exchanging and bickering over can openers and salad tossers and plates,
(31:43):
clearly because he didn't have any money. So even though
he's made one hundred and hundred and seventy four thousand
a year in Congress, he's never paid off any debt.
So that makes the whole Chinese spying Fang Fang thing
of more concern. Where's this guy's money going? And why
can't he payoff debts? And why can't he maintain a
home in California.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Just give the audience a minute on the Fang Fang situation.
Why is that something that China hawks and people that
are anti CCP, like you know, Natalie Winner's war room
ban and others continue to harp on. Why do people
harp on the Fang Fang situation? What's such a big
deal about it?
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Well, there's a long term influence operation by different countries,
sometimes Russia and certainly China, to penetrate US political parties
and influence them by placing influencers inside people that they
think have potential to become president one day. Look Tim
Walsh in Minnesota, who used to go to China every
(32:43):
year for many many years. He was under great influence
from the Chinese Fang Fang. The FBI apparently felt she
was some kind of part of a spying operation and
they had to tell Eric Swalwell to get rid of her,
which he did. But then Swalwo was kicked off the
Intelligence Committee because of the risk that he posed. So
it's been a long term threat. The FBI is constantly
(33:05):
following around. You know, how can they follow around six
hundred thousand Chinese students. But there's definitely an effort to
penetrate the American political system and influence our politics, from
Joe Biden to Tim Walsh to Eric Swalwell.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Just foy, let's go.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
The authorities came to him and notified him that this
was a problem, and this is the reason that he
basically broke off the relationship or at least toned it down.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
That's all we know.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
We know very little about it.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Even the Dane Feinstein, her driver for twenty years apparently
worked for the Chinese Communist Party and that was the
last we heard about it. So we don't get enough
information about this stuff. And Eric Swalwell and Tim Walsh
are still serving and they won't answer any question. So
it's definitely frustrating not to be able to really find
(33:58):
out what happened in these situations and why there's never
any prosecutions.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
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At least I think some of the current problems has
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I want to get your thoughts more about what Laura's
talking about in this movement over in Israel about Israeli sovereignty.
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In fact, Dan Flow is Dan fluent up? Can I
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Even as I speak, Dan Floyd? Is Dan Floyd going
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You're working on some of this. We got the J
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The J six Prison Course is going to release their song,
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I think that's the fifth.
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If my math is correct, they're going to release their
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worked on the people. I have a copy here in
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So yeah, one of the main things that I try
to do, and I'm so appreciative of the efforts of
war Room is and you you've always been a supporter
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We see them being canceled.
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They can't get any kind of like commissions work, they're
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Or books or you just name it.
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And war rooms really stepping into the breach there, and
and and it's and it's really important for uh, for
for this movement is Andrew Breitbart like to say, Uh,
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and one of the things that I try to do,
you know, I recently did the Rebels, Roads and Outlaws
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Looks really wonderful. And people can get it just by
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We've got a lot of options, whether you like canvases
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Perfect. Okay, I'd love that poster. By the way, everybody
comes in, we have one standing right here. Anyway, right
when you walk into the warm itself, you say to people,
are well, what is this or is my picture going
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a buddy real soon now we're working. You did a
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(38:52):
week on MAHA, the Children's Health Defense Conference. One of
those you did some sidebar interviews. Do we have any
idea when those interviews is going to be up, because
I know they should.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah, they should start to be trickling out as early
as Monday. We're gonna we'll make a big splash with them.
And it was I did like probably nine hours a
day of interviews, and I thought I was pretty up
on the back stuff. And you know, I knew quite
a bit about COVID and man, it's it's absolutely shocking.
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And then to see uh, some of these healthy people
who have come through that I got to I got
to meet and and and talk with to see them
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were coerced to do in many, many instances. And that's
take a shot, especially when they're young, you know, they're
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is something that really needs to be tackled.
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And I couldn't be.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Happier that Bobby Kennedy's in there fighting that good fight.
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Now we're gonna have we'll make a big launch on
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Ruthie's Table 4
For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.