Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
If Ai didn't scare the living bejeebis out of you before,
it sure will now. Also, the Chicoms have been coming
to our elite universities and then going back to China
and taking head spots in the Chinese Communist Party. And
also Disney is this is just so unfortunate. They're doing
layoffs and it happens to be a lot in the
entertainment department. I wonder what caused that. All that more
(00:31):
coming up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My
name is Jobob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together.
We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback in
this is Turning Point Tonight. And before we get to
those stories in our fantastic panel, we got to talk
about the newest thing that lives are big mad about.
This is from our friends over at the Daily Wire
who dug into this. But President Trump and the Trump
administration are attempting to halt the Job Core program. And
(00:54):
of course, the well intentioned or at least the libs
would say, job Core program, how what a tragedy. People
are looking for jobs and they're part of a core
it's job Corps. Turns out, the Job Core program riddled
with lots of different controversies, was also extremely an extraordinarily unaffective, ineffective.
(01:18):
If you don't know, this Job Corp gets about two
billion dollars almost two billion dollars from federal funding, and
it's been around since nineteen sixty four. What it does
is it is it houses youth, troubled youth, x cons
high school dropouts, runaway teams from sixteen to twenty four
in government paid housing in attempt to get them a
(01:40):
ged or trade skills to go out and work in
the trades. Now, I think that's a great thing. Working
in the trades is a great idea. Not everybody needs
to go to college. So on its face it makes
a lot of sense. However, like so many things in
the federal government, once you do a little bit of digging,
you start to see, oh, so this is not actually working.
(02:02):
A huge percentage of the people who are in charge
of this program, our government contractors, and turns out, well,
they were cooking the books. According to actual data, American
Job Corps spends up to seven hundred and sixty four
thousand dollars per student if you want to call them
students or participate participant in the program, and then after
(02:25):
they get out of the job Corps. I guess the
good news is they will end up making on average
seventeen thousand dollars a year. In other words, it costs
more for the taxpayer to put somebody through job Corps
than it does to go to Harvard, and then on
the back end you make almost barely more than the
standard deduction. Holy cow, that's ineffective. On top of that,
(02:46):
according to the Daily Wire the last three years, more
than five hundred sexual assaults have been reported in facilities.
In the last three years, did I say three years?
Five years? Three years? In the last three years, forty
six hundred reported violent assaults in eight thousand drug related instances.
In other words, if you want to be a proponent
of the job Corp, that is totally fine. It is
not a safe program, it is not an effective program,
(03:07):
and it is not a good use of American tax
payer dollars, and therefore it should go bye bye. Here
to comment on that and so much more is Alex Sneine,
friend of the show and Chloe Casteele, conservative commentator. Guys,
thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate you
taking the time. Thank for having us, Alex, I want
to start with you here again. Sounds good on its face.
(03:28):
There's there's a guy I forget his name, but he's
famous for saying sounds good doesn't work again. His name
will probably come to me at some point in the show.
But sounds like a well intentioned thing turned out was
wasting a lot of money and effectively not physically safe.
Is the Trump administration right to roll this back one percent?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Because you know, anything the federal government touches, they screw
up because the federal government is so incompetent.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So you know, seeing the job corps go this.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Is good and this is a more bloating wayte it
just needs to go. And that's so I was kind
of worried when Trump said that he was going to
reallocate two million dollars excuse me, two billion dollars from
Harvard and give it to trade schools. I was kind
of worried because they would probably mess that up. Is
in it to the wrong trade school or a damn
trade school in Afghanistan or something? You know, you know,
I don't think the Trump administration is going to waste
money on gender studies in Afghanistan and sup and stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But when it comes to this job corps, it's not
giving kids jobs, it's not teaching.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Kids the skills that they need to be successful.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know, look at our private prison industries like they
are taking advantage of people. So anything connected to that,
like job corps and you know what, what is it
rehabilitating criminals.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
It's usually just actually.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
A way to take advantage of people that are, you know,
more vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, and it really isn't fair to the people participating
in that. Yeah. And everything the federal government touches just
goes to crap. I think there's a Reagan quote. If
you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert,
in five years, they'd run out of sand. Chloe. One
of the requirements to be in job Corps and this
feels like a disincentive to me is that you can't
be able to read above an eighth grade level. I mean,
(05:04):
look again, all about helping people out, I choose would
love to do it privately through church institutions and other
things like that, But this seems like a disincentive to
actually succeed in life, does it not?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Absolutely, jobob and you know it's very frustrating, honestly, as
a young person to see how many ways, how many
various ways the government will try to dumb down my generation,
and they'll go through great links to make sure that
we are as uneducated and dependent on them as humanly possible.
And so this, I would say, one another great example
of that. And so it doesn't surprise me, honestly, I
(05:38):
think the federal government has been at this sort of
agenda for years. But I think it's great that President
Trump is scratching this and it's wonderful to see someone
in office plantaking a stand.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, Alex, you mentioned Harvard and the whole tribulations they're
going through at the moment. Part of that is President
Trump and Marco Rubio is saying, hey, the foreign students
things is got this is too much. A recent report
in the Wall Street Journal says that at Harvard. Harvard
is one of the top places that the Chai cooms
(06:09):
send their future leaders, even so much so that Jijen
Ping sent his daughter there when he was the second
in command, and then she graduated after he took power.
It feels like all of the turmoil around Harvard, the
libs are saying, oh, they're just picking on people that
don't agree with them. I don't know. With this kind
of report and showing that the Chinese Communist Party is
(06:30):
actively sending people here to get educated in America and
then take it back and then be a part of
our biggest adversary, it seems fairly reasonable. I feel like, I.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Don't understand how somebody could be so naive to think
that people wouldn't want to send their kids at the
number one school in the world, Harvard. I mean, so
obviously it's going to be an international school, so the
idea that international students are going to want to go there,
I mean, it's just if you don't understand that concept,
then you know, I just you're kind of slow, you know, really,
I don't know how to describe it, because this is
(07:02):
a problem though too.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
With Harvard.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's ultra competitive. The only people that get in there are,
like you said, basically these international foreign students. And that's
why I really don't like these everything schools of late schools,
and any American citizen that could get into Harvard could
get a full right scholarship to any state school, any
awesome state school in the country.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So I'm kind of against.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
These Ivy League elite schools like that, I wouldn't want
to send my kid to Harvard.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, I think it would actually be a net negative
on your kid's overall future. Chloe, This I think is
interesting too. Harvard obviously says, well, no, we just welcome,
We welcome everybody. But a lot of the elite schools
love international students. Now, personally, I don't know a single
person that paid the full actual freight for college. People
get in state tuition reductions, they get scholarships or different things,
(07:49):
and sometimes it may be minimal. International students pay one
hundred percent of the tuition, and I have to believe
that that factors into the school's decision to take more
international students and be super bullish on international students, right,
I mean, that just makes sense. It's it seems like
a money and a greed thing to me.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Well, honestly, I would wonder where the money is coming
from to send them there from these from these foreign
countries as well, because honestly, I find it very interesting.
The Chinese and you know, in particular, I think have
a very high standard. We've seen where they're ranking in
the world as far as education goes, also as far
as art and entertainment and culture.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
They value things like classical music, for example.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
And it's interesting to see their students being sent over
here to Harvard and you know, one of the top
schools in the US, while you know, our students were
we're making sure that they're learning all about the LGBTQ
agenda and transgender furry time in their college campuses. So
I mean, not that Harvard is woke. I think it's
just interesting though. I mean, you know, where is the
funding coming from to send them there? I think it's
the course of money thing. You always follow the money.
(08:48):
You'll find out where you know where people are head at,
what their intentions are. But I think that it's very
interesting two things. One, you know, why are we prioritizing
our enemies education over our own I guess citizens?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
And also where is that money coming from?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah? No, the prioritizing foreign adversaries education seems really ridiculous.
I want to get to this really quick before we
have to take a break. Alex, I know you were
devastated when you were not cast as a dwarf in
Snow White because they chose to opt out of a
to use AI or to use a CGI I know
that was really heartbreaking for you, so therefore you didn't
(09:23):
see the movie. Everybody else on the planet did see
the snow White movie, and everyone loved it. Of course,
I'm getting it bombed at the box office. Alex Disney
or Disney's now saying they're going to do with the
fourth round of layoffs in ten months, many of it
coming from their TV and film department. Is this a win?
Have we won? Are we at least winning?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I mean, I would say, show what is this cliche?
You know, go woke, get broke, and now are going
a little broke.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But I don't understand how Disney could lose any money
considering I see all these cringe Disney park hoppers, plus
sized park coppers and the world other inside a Disney
and spend eight hundred dollars on food. I mean, the
fact that they're hurting financially doesn't make sense. So I
mean they are really being mismanaged.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
They might be. Are they being run by the federal government?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But Walt Disney saw those six hundred pound women spend
one thousand dollars in his park on food, and then
he saw that they were losing money.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
He would be spinning in as grade. He wouldn't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Alex, I don't. I don't know if you know. I'm
not sure if you know that you stumbled. You possibly
have stumbled upon a revenue stream. Maybe they charged by
the pound for the plus sized park corvers. I don't know.
Just just a thought, Chloe, is this is this kind
of what we expect? Same question? Are we winning? Does
this mean we won the Culture Wars? This kind of
just a step in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I'd say, a step in the right direction. I'm the
same guide.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
You asked this because I get frustrated a loss with conservatives, honestly,
because you know, we're always talking about we see certain
things happen and we jump to yay, we won the
Culture Award.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
It's like, you, guys, we have such a massified ahead
of us.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
This should just be fueling our fight in and showing
us where we're stepping in the right direction here.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Not that it's over. It's far from over. Alex. That
was hilarious. I mean, I you know, I think it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Also we see all these Disney adults, honestly, and it's like,
what is happening to the adults in America.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Why are we so childish?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Honestly, I think it's great to have, you know, to
love your childhood, but when it comes to this point
in life, it's like, why we have all these plus
size adults, you know, just binging Disney. It's very interesting
to me, and I think that that's one thing in
the culture war though, honestly, that we still have these
people who you know, want to be there and who
want to you know, spend their spend their day eating
churros on with you know, Mickey Mouse ears on at
(11:36):
like thirty plus years old.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
That's concerning to me. I think that's a.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Sign that in our culture when you take more steps
beyond just saying Disney go broke in some way to
really take back our culture.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, have kids, and you will not have time to
go eat churros with Mickey Mouse. Here it's a Disney
lang or maybe once a year, and the priority will
be your kid. Alex and Chloe will be right back
after the break to discuss. I don't want to terrify you,
but you really should be terrified of this new study
or this new opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal
about AI and it's inability to delete itself. Don't go away.
(12:08):
We'll be right back after the break. Welcome back to
(12:31):
Turning Point tonight. We're together. We are charting the course
of America's cultural comeback. It is time to check in
with Turning Points. White House Correspondent Monica Page at the
White House, Monica, you know, this is one of those situations.
We're gonna talk about the Colorado terrorist here. This is
one of those There's a scene in Batman where Batman
says to Alfred, you know, you know how you always
(12:53):
love to say I told you so, And Alfred says, yeah,
but I don't want to be in that position. Effectively,
I don't want to say I told you so. This
seems exactly like one of those cases where conservatives are like, hey,
we told you this stuff is happening, and you know,
I don't want to be in a position where bad
things need to happen in order to say I told
you so. Give us the lowdown on what this guy
(13:15):
was is and those unfortunate I told you so moments.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, Unfortunately, that is the proper comparison that you're making,
Joe Bob. We know Mohammed Solomon is an Egyptian national,
and he came here on a tourist visa back in
twenty twenty two, where he ended up landing in Colorado
with his wife and five kids. He's charged with this
federal hate crime. He told investigators that he was planned
to kill everybody at this pro Israel rally. And what's
(13:42):
interesting is that this tourist visa that he came on
in twenty twenty two expired in February back in twenty
twenty three. Then he was granted this work permit that
was allegedly set to expire of March this year. He
worked as an uber driver previously, where he passed all
of his background CZECKSIE, including a criminal record background check
(14:03):
as well. And this is what's really interesting is also
respondents and those officials also allegedly found USAID paperwork in
his car when they were doing this investigation.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
But this really opens up the biggest question.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Of just how many illegal aliens are here in this
country overstaying their visas. And what's unfortunate is that it's
very hard to pin down and track down the number
of exactly how many of those people. Apparently we're in
DHS data three hundred and fourteen thousand illegal Aliens have
been overstaying their work visa. About twenty four hundred of
them are of Egyptian descent from Egypt, So it'll be
(14:41):
interesting to see how this administration plans on tackling this issue.
And this is something that I predict is not going
to go away anytime soon. I mean, just imagine how
many have come into this country under the Biden administration.
This is just one of how many thousands, you.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Know, Yeah, and it's awful to see. Minken't. I don't think.
I don't as that you have the answer to this,
but I'm curious about your kind of thoughts around it. Right,
this guy comes in with his wife and five kids
on a tourist visa, which means he had to have
money from somewhere. And I'm questioning, Okay, well where did
that money come from? And if he had money to
get here but then didn't have money to stay and
(15:17):
therefore we needed to work from it and then getting
USAAD money, Like does the administration feel like does it
feel like they're intent on finding out all of those
kind of details, because I think that's symptomatic of a
obviously clearly a much bigger problem.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Absolutely and that's a great point. I mean, the devil
is in the detail. When you find out what exactly
is going on with this man, you can pretty much
uncover a common theme with however, many thousands as well.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
So this is something that I think.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
That administration is taking very seriously and unfortunately has come
down to this. I mean, experts have been predicting perhaps
October seventh style attacks here on our own soil just
because of how many just skeptical people are coming through
our southern border, not only souther board, but the northern border,
or flying them in.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
I mean, it was a mess under the past administration.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
So to try and figure this out and pin pieces together,
this is a massive puzzle at this point, especially when.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
It comes to that you those USAID papers.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I think there's something up with that, and I'm very
curious to see how this administration will handle it.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, you and I both. I'm hoping they act aggressively
as they have been doing over the last couple months
they've been in office. Monica Page Stringpoints, White House Correspondent, Manica,
thank you so much for checking in well see tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Thanks so much, jobob s tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Thank you. Well, if you weren't terrified of artificial intelligence
and the robots taking over humanity as a whole. Yes,
should be, because there's a new opinion piece out in
the Wall Street Journal written by a CEO of one
of these AI companies saying, Hey, there's some really disturbing
things happening. Let's bring our panel back. Alex Stein Chloyd Castillo. Guys,
(16:51):
this is a little bit wild to me. This company
was attempting to shut down its AI program, or at
least this particular model, and seventy nine percent out of
the one hundred trials, seventy nine out of one hundred,
the machine rewrote its own internal code to not be
shut down. Then after they were explicitly told hey, no, no,
(17:13):
you have to be able to have your code authorize
you to be shut down. Still, in seven percent, almost
one in ten times, it figured out a way around
the human system to make sure that it wasn't shut down.
Even worse than that, in another AI model, Cloud four Opus.
I'm not super familiar with this, Alex. The researchers who
(17:36):
were studying whether or not the AI system could get
shut down or move said told the AI system, Hey,
we're going to potentially move to a different system, a
different model here, and the AI model then used emails
to try and blackmail the head researcher there into not
(17:56):
moving the AI models. I mean, this seems pretty terminator
esque to me. Are we scared about this? Should we
put the brakes on? Is there somebody who's calling out saying, hey,
this is this is a super big, big potential problem
we've got on our hands.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, I don't know if it's too late.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean, when I really think about my biggest fears
and I see the footage from the Ukraine War, I'm
almost more worried about like somebody putting a bomb on.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
A drone and just like flying it over you.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You know, I see that, But that a lot of
that is AI, you know, the drones kind of flying itself.
But there's this theory where there's an uncanny valley where
the top telecommunications company have spent billions of dollars and
they do this testing where they try to convince a
human that they're not talking to a robot, like when
they want to do these call centers, they want to
be able to do it or it's just all AI,
(18:45):
but human beings can always figure it out. So my
point is like, AI will never be able to create
the same art. They will be able to create stuff
and it will be very similar, but like, they won't
be able to be the same as human. Does that
mean that they're not a threat? No, they're a huge
threat to our existence. But it's just kind of weird
that AI will never be human.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I guess we could just defeed AI by turning off
the power. Maybe is that the only way we can
unplug it? I guess that's the only way that we
beat it. But other than that, I think we're pretty
much toast.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, I'm a proponent of unplugging the Internet. Chloe. My
biggest concern is that libs are going to try and
get AI to vote saying no, No, they are sentient
human beings and deserve the rights that American citizens have. Clay,
I don't know is this as concerning in your world
or to Alex's point, I do think that people will
(19:34):
seek out human made things. I find myself doing that
all the time, especially in the artistic world. How much
do we have to worry about this?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Well, you know, honestly, as far as voting goes, that
never even crossed my mind. So you have a new concern,
you know, for me to worry about now. Sorry, But
as far as art goes, you know, what Alex said is,
I think true people do want art that sounds like
it's a human creation. And honestly, one thing is concerning
to me isn't so much the AI is the fact
that the actual art that we do have out there,
the artists who are producing music in particular these days,
(20:06):
it's getting more and more and more and more electronically
focused and you know, centered around things that are harder
to differentiate between actual human art and just computerization of everything.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
So to me it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Honestly, maybe the you know, the powers that be are
trying to shift us to being more I guess, accepting
of this kind of sound, and then we're not going
to be able to tell the difference.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
I don't know, maybe not managed, just like my conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
But you know, I think it's interesting when you look
at the art these days, how agenda ridden it is,
and how I guess unartistic in a lot of ways
as well.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So that's a concern on my end of things.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I guess, yeah, I my vote would be to unplug
the Internet. I'm not sure if that's somebody you have
to call, if President Trump could do it, but I
think is unfortunately been in that negative and this this
really concerns me. Speaking of things that concern me, the
types of people that are able to be in the
Secret Service, or at least got hired during past administration, Alex.
(21:02):
This happened last week, but we haven't been meeting together
as a as a group of viewers and TV show
for a little while. But clip out of the Obama residence.
I think it's like seven seconds. Let's play this clip
really quick of some Secret Service agents that are about
to fight. It looks like that's yeah, two female Secret
(21:25):
Service offices outside of in the middle of the night,
outside of the Obama's residence, in a tussle over there. Alex.
It seems to me that if you're the type of
person that can't keep their cool, you should not be
in the Secret Service? In other words, is this all
DEI hires? And then I guess even further than that,
is President Trump assigning all of the DEI hires that
(21:48):
got hired under the passive administration to the Bidens and
the Obamas. Is that what's going on here? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, Donald Trump would be a genius to do that,
but you know, I wouldn't be surprised. Now we know
we're I'm a chef, is you know maybe it was
one of the Secret Service members I took out Obama's chef.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I mean, you see how you know?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And that's just no disrespect to female cops. Female cops,
are you know they want to shoot first, asked questions later?
So if I had a female Secret Service agent, oh
my god, I mean, I might as well just get
the gun and shoot myself.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
At that point. I mean, you know, you're you're not
going to really have much protection.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So good for Donald Trump if this is this five
D chess where he's putting all the DEI hires and
all the people that are on like you know, multiple
prescription medication to be the people that protect Obama.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
God bless his soul. He really is truly the greatest
commander in chief of all time.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, that's again, we're not thrown shade at the Secret
Service who earned their way there. It's just part of
highlighting the fact that, like, hey, if there are DEI
hires in the top perspective protective authority in this country,
of our our dignitaries and officials that that would be
a problem. Chloe, Well, I don't know, what do you
think is this?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Is this something that we're gonna see often. Again, nobody
wants anything bad to happen, nobody's suggesting that at all,
But I don't know. Some some mishaps, some some brawls
over maybe it was a man who knows what they
were fighting about, is something we're gonna see more. If
that is the case, President Trump is putting a DEI
Secret Service agents on the people that hired them.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
I think it'd be pretty darn funy. Honestly, I think
it'd be hilarious.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I love to see it if we found out that
our president was doing, you know, props to him for that,
but you know, it is ridiculous thing. Honestly, women in
these positions, and as a woman myself, I am a
proponent of you know, women not being the first option
to hire when it comes to the Secret Service. And again,
like Alex said earlier, you know, no shade to female
cops at all and those who have worked themselves up
(23:40):
to these kind of positions, but these DEI hires where
it's just a matter of you know, there's some you
know woman somewhere and it's like, okay, you know what,
I want to be a DEI hire here, and so
it's an easy end for a lot of people. I
guess people know each other, and you know, it's honestly
really tiring. I guess as a young woman to be
seeing somebody's issues that you know they see women can't
(24:01):
drive those kind of stereotypes.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
But you see stuff like this and I'm sorry, it's
just true.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
You don't need women in the Secret Service, you know, Honestly,
in my personal opinion here, I would love to see
an all male Secret Service. I think there's a there's
something to the stereotypes and maybe hey, what happens to
be just fallen for a while and maybe let all
the DEI hires do their time with the Obamas.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, I don't know that. Seems like Alex I saw
that grin you were gonna make a woman driving joke.
I thank you for not making well now women.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Can drive, no, But I mean it's Sam Hide's joke though.
You know, every female cop they all want to reach
for their pepper spray, and for some reason they all
accidentally reach for their gun.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And shoot the suspect.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But I don't know why that happens. I don't know
why that's a stereotype. But you know, maybe some stereotypes
are true.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't know. Yeah, just from a physicality standpoint, let's
just even go there. Just from like a hey, men
are bigger and stronger. It can do more agile things.
And that's what would joke Bob.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Women don't get drafted, so people want to say, I mean,
I mean, so they're not eligible to get drafted.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So then they shouldn't, you know, be they can be
female costs.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
So they should be like behind a desk or something,
you know what I mean, not out there busting skulls.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
In my opinion, yeah, this is all all comes back
to physicality, which is why we have such an issue
with the whole transgender dudes in sports. It's kind of
all ties together, I think. Alex Stein, Chloyd Castillo, guys,
thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking
the time.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Thanks you come out.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Next, We've got a fantastic clip from Alex Clark's Culture
Apothecary podcast produced by Turning Point USA. Don't go away,
We'll be right back after the break.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
What does it mean to have a good light diet?
Speaker 9 (25:49):
So a light diet is I love that term because
I think light is more important than food and exercise
more important, more important because we know, here's the definitive
study that proved this twenty seventeen. They took mice, so
they always take mice because they don't it's hard to
experiment on humans and try to give them cancer. That's
really a bad idea. So they took mice and they
(26:11):
fed them the same diet, so same calories in, and
they had them exercise the same amount, so they were
doing same calories in, same calories out. And people say
losing weight is about calories in calories out right, that's
not true because they had the same exact mice. They
had the same calories in, same calories out. They measured
like all of these things in the lab. But one
set of mice had twenty four hours of light and
(26:34):
the other set of mice had twelve hours of darkness
and twelve hours of light, no other difference. The mice
that had twenty four hours of light became obese, and
the mice that got twelve hours of darkness were normal weight.
And so that study alone proves that light is a
drug and that light can actually make you fat, and
(26:54):
so going on a light diet actually will help you
lose weight.
Speaker 8 (26:58):
So if somebody were to come to you, I guess
that he is and be like, you know, I'm really struggling.
Losing weight is one of the first questions you're asking
them about their light habits.
Speaker 9 (27:05):
Absolutely. And so I have a really good friend and
he's a bioacker, so he knows all the stuff, he's
certified and all these things right, and he couldn't lose
his last forty five pounds. It's a lot of weight.
And he tried everything, like every diet whatever, and he's like,
he called me one day and he's like Thattys, I
lost forty five pounds in six weeks. I was like,
what did you do? And he says, I finally did
(27:28):
what you told me to do. I got outside every
day at dawn and I started wearing blue light blocking
glasses and I didn't change anything else, and I lost
forty five pounds.
Speaker 10 (27:37):
Your kid, he didn't change anything else, nothing else.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Okay, somebody, like my audience, if you are somebody who's
been on this weight lost journey, and like nothing has worked.
I want you to try this and tell us, like
if this actually works, because this is so fascinating. How
does the wrong light mess with our hormones?
Speaker 9 (27:53):
It's because our body reads blue light, and blue light
increases cortisol. It keeps us awaken alert. That's awesome. During
the day, we want high cortisol, we want to be
awaken alert. But cortisol, as everybody knows, is a stress.
It's the hormone of stress. Its stress hormone. You don't
want it at night. So when we see blue light
(28:14):
at night, and again people think, oh, I don't see
any blue light, Well, your tablet, your television, your laptop,
your phone, and the overhead lights are blue lights, even
if they're incandescence. So let's just say, like you went
away from LEDs and you put in incandescence, those still
destroy fifty percent of your melatonin from the blue that's present.
So when we see blue light at night, I mean,
the fact of our biology is we have melanops and receptors.
(28:37):
These are receptors in our eye that read blue light
and when they see it, they tell the body it's
daytime and to increase cortisol and destroy melatonin. So we're
increasing our stress at night when we want to go
to sleep and destroying the hormone called melatonin that is
the body's master anti cancer hormone. When you destroy melatonin,
(28:58):
melatonin is what sets what we're hungry for. So when
we see light late into the night, our body makes
us crave sugar and carbs. It makes us do that.
We're biologically engineered to do that when we see blue
light at night because we think it's going to be
winter soon and we need to put on fat, so
we become more stressed, we become more anxious. It messes
(29:21):
with our insulin. It keeps our insulin high when we
see blue light at night, Our insulin stays high because
it wants to pull every bit of carbohydrate and sugar
into fat for the coming winter. And the problem is
we never turn the lights out all year round, so
we keep storing this fat for winter. With high insulin
and high cortisol, both of those things reduce the amount
of melatonin, which is cleaning up all our cells. The
(29:43):
other thing it does is it stops the production of leptin,
and leptin is a hormone when we wake up that
makes us hungry for breakfast, which is a good circadian
time to eat. So a lot of the community in
the health and wellness space says, like skip breakfast.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
Right, and you disagree?
Speaker 9 (29:59):
I completely di agree. Breakfast is probably the most important
thing and the largest meal of the day should be
your breakfast. Oh, we're biologically designed to have a bigger
breakfast because that sets our circadian rhythm. So light in
meal timing set your circadian rhythm, and it starts this
clock in our body. And the clock says after seeing
(30:22):
the sun rise and having a meal, we should produce
melatonin in sixteen hours.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
So if you are somebody who wakes up every morning
and you're never hungry for breakfast, your body is telling
you what.
Speaker 9 (30:32):
Your body is telling you that you have a broken
leptin system because your circadian rhythm is broken.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
So at nighttime when the sun is setting, are you
in the winter putting lighting fireplays? Are you only using
candles in the house or using some lamps or what
do you do?
Speaker 9 (30:46):
The best thing to do at night when it gets
dark is to not have any lights and go to bed.
No one's going to do that, So the next best
thing you can do is candles and fire. So we
put in a wood burning stove in our home. We
live in Wisconsin. It gets in the winter, so we
do have a fire every single night in the winter.
We do use candles whenever we can. But let's face it,
(31:06):
like sometimes I need to be on the laptop or
sometimes like you need more than a candle to cook dinner,
And I think nobody should be eating after dark. There
have been numerous studies that show eating after dark causes
weight gain every single time and disrupts circadian rhythm.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
Which time do you eat in.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
The winter, We eat at four pm.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Four pm. The only other person I know that eats
that freaking early for dinner.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
Is Howard Stern.
Speaker 9 (31:30):
Oh my gosh, Howard Stern.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
Because he is a morning show host and so he
eats dinner at like four pm. And I just know
that about him because I used to work in morning
radio and I've always thought that was so fascinating. I
could never get on his level. But oh my gosh,
that is so early. So then, so breakfast is how
soon after you wake up?
Speaker 9 (31:48):
Breakfast should be within thirty minutes of seeing the sunrise.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Okay, so you go outside and do sunrise stuff first,
then immediately.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
Eat the sunrise tells your body to start producing testosterone
from an estrogen women to start your circading clock for
the day, and then to allow you to be hungry
for breakfast, okay.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
And then what time is lunch? And how big of
a lunch are you eating?
Speaker 9 (32:08):
I had a pretty big lunch, so in my opinion,
breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince or princess,
and then dinner like a popper. Okay, so big, medium, small, Okay.
The best time to fast would be dinner, not breakfast.
Speaker 10 (32:21):
And what time is lunchtime?
Speaker 9 (32:24):
Solar noon, it can be any time between ten thirty
and one.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Thirty, okay.
Speaker 10 (32:28):
And then dinner is at.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Four in the winter. In the summer, dinner can be
at six or seven pm because it's still light out.
So in Wisconsin, in the Midwest and the North, we
eat with the sun. So when the sun is up
until nine pm, you can eat up until eight pm.
You know you really want to finish dinner, but three
to four hours before bed if possible, okay, to get
the best sleep doing what you do.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
And like this is your entire life's work is light
and circading rhythms and all of this, I mean everyone
in your life knows that this is your thing. So
does that mean that occasionally you do accept dinner bag
dinner invitationations for seven pm? Or does nobody invite you
out that late because they're like, you won't come, or
what happens?
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Like do you make exceptions?
Speaker 9 (33:06):
We do make exceptions. So breaking bread with family and
friends is really important, and let's face it, in our
modern society, it's going to happen. We do try to
minimize that though, Like, honestly, if you're having a meal
with friends and family and it's a social environment and
you're relaxed, it can be really healing. So we do
(33:26):
have less of those that happen though, because honestly, like
it is inconvenient to go to bed with the sun
and to eat with the sun, but cancer and obesity
are also pretty inconvenient for your social life. So we
really try to limit the amount that we do things
like that.
Speaker 11 (33:43):
And immediately nobodys thought about you, who's just twenty four
to seven flooding the zone, back to my thirteen year
old owning this space every day, getting a convert and
then I'm thinking about we're gonna stand back and watch
you run circles around us.
Speaker 12 (34:03):
He said it best at Turning Point USA, where relentless
we're changing minds on campuses every semester, defending conservative values
and fighting for America's future. Your donation helps keep us
on campus. Join the movement and donate to TPUSA today.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Welcome back to Turning Point tonight. That is right. You
can find anything Turning Point is doing TURNINGPOINTUSA dot com
TPUSA dot com. You can find out about all the
fantastic events this month. The YWLS Young Women's Leadership Summit
is coming to Dallas, Texas. You can't go if you're
a man, but if you're not a man, it's a
fantastic event you should consider attending. TPUSA dot com. You
can also find out about the Student Action Summit that's
(34:41):
happening in Tampa in conjunction with the Turning Point Academy
Educator Summit. Holy cout. Turningpoint is doing so much. You
can find out about everything at tpusa dot com. You
can also email the show TPT at tpusa dot com.
We love hearing from you. Whether you agree with everything
we say or you're wrong, doesn't matter. Send an email
to the Show TPT at TPUSA. Now I know we
say to email every time, but I really would like
(35:03):
your emails on what you think about what we're about
to do. Let me know if this is something that
you'd like to see more of, if you think this
is interesting, or if you're like, now I go back
to showing the libs doing lib things on the internet
because you Usually we'll react to some videos, we'll show you,
guys some of the crazy stuff that the libs are doing,
But in this particular case, I wanted to give you
(35:23):
a deep look into what people have to deal with
myself on threads. Threads is the Facebook offshoot of Twitter
or x and it is a cesspool of total lib
progressive insanity. Now, I don't like necessarily publicizing kind of
the back and forth people have on the internet. I
don't know if that's super compelling, but again, let me
(35:46):
know if you think otherwise. Tpt at TPUSA dot com.
Over the weekend, Senator Corey Booker of New Jersey was
in California giving a speech and in that speech, after
he was done, he made a very very unfre fortunate
racist and probably white supremacist hand gesture. Watch this slowed down.
(36:06):
This is Senator Booker just being awful. Now we all
know what this hand gesture is. It is clear, it
is evident, it is abundantly obvious to anyone with eyeballs
that Corey Booker obviously clearly is a Nazi sympathizer, or
(36:28):
at least that's what they said when Elon Musk did
a very similar hand gesture. Now I posted a video
effectively saying the same thing. Hey, libs, are we freaking
out about the fact that Corey Booker is doing a
Nazi salute? Now? I was clearly kidding. Everybody is kidding.
Nobody should be taking any of this seriously, because if
(36:49):
the contention that you're making that Elon Musk did a
Nazi salute, what you're saying is that he, the most
the richest man in the world, has hid his n
Nazi sympathies from the entire planet for so long. He
does he does these types of salutes in his spare time.
He loves it. But for some reason, on the biggest
(37:10):
stage he's ever had, at the presidential inauguration, he just
let it slip and you the progressives caught him in
the act. Or it's just an awkward ogrin hand boch,
because that's exactly what it was. Now the joke is that, well,
anytime the Libs do it, now, that makes them a Nazi,
which is what we're joking about with Corey Booker. In
(37:32):
this particular instance, I posted that to threads and the
comments section was hilarious. These are some of the comments
that the Libs left, apparently not knowing that we were
mocking them for their own insanity. First is this. This
is a series of comments that were left. Fingers are spread,
(37:53):
arm isn't fully extended? Bad form for a salute? Good
form if it's a wave to a crowd member that
he knew we're talking about the form. That's that's what
we're talking about. Okay, you missed the fact that this
was a joke and the fact that we were mocking you.
That one over your head. But we're it's a form problem.
Go to that second graphic. It's another form. This is
a consistent theme that was going through. Really doesn't seem
(38:15):
so obvious. I see clear differences between what he did
and what Ela did. Close hand, hard gesture, upward, other nuances. Again,
sir or ma'am or they them not entirely sure. I
don't want to assume your gender, especially considering that you're
posting stuff like that. Is is that it? It's again
(38:37):
not the fact that we're making fun of you. You're
you're basing your argument on the form of this salute. Again,
good luck with that one. It gets even crazier as
we go on. Man, the brain rot he's talking about
the brain rot from us the Conservatives is getting super bad.
If you guys are still simping for Leon, this hard.
(38:58):
My brain rod has gotten so bad. I've thought it.
He's spelled elon this entire time. It's only four letters.
I guess I don't know. My brain rod has gotten
so bad that I guess I can't even spell Leon's
name correctly, which apparently that's what he's called. Uh, let's
continue on down the list. We'll move quickly here. This
is where I think it's fascinating. Why don't you play
the whole clip? Nice try though. Next one says, Uh, cool,
(39:21):
How you need to cut it extremely tight and slow
it down to make it look like he's not not
look like he's waving. Next one continues, Uh, if you
watch the whole video, it isn't edited. It cuts short.
His hand's clearly waving. Then he calls me some very
mean words, says some says some very knotty words, and
even uses the R word, which is not okay, and
then the last one, which is uh, there's there's a
(39:43):
whole video that shows that's taken out of context and
or deliberately deliberately manipulating people. Awesome. I hope that libs
start to recognize that context. Two things matter. Remember when uh,
the whole talking points of good people on both sides,
even President Obama said that totally misleading and manipulated information.
(40:07):
One they're judging it on the form that's crazy. Two
they don't know that we're mocking them. And three they
want something that we've been clamoring about forever. However, I say, no,
this is what I actually think is happening. Yep, it's clarifying.
(40:38):
We're not going to joke here, we are. That's that's
what it is. He's a he's a black white supremacist.
Thanks guys so much for doing it. Charle's gonna take
us ou. We'll see it tomorrow, same time, Save place,
God bless America.
Speaker 12 (40:52):
Okay, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirks Show. Very exciting
guest here today, someone that is changing the world. It
is doctor Patrick Sunshiong, founder and executive chairman of Immunity
Bio and executive chairman of the Los Angeles Times. Doctor,
(41:15):
welcome to the program.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Great to see you.
Speaker 13 (41:17):
Thank you, Charlie. Good seeing you so.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Doctor.
Speaker 12 (41:21):
I see you all over the place. I'm watching the news.
I see you in Saudi Arabia, I see you in Qatar.
I see you with the President of the United States.
You are a surgeon who has dedicated fifty plus years
to researching cancer. What is your main message about what
you have learned that you want the American people to
know about cancer?
Speaker 13 (41:39):
Well, thank you for that opportunity, Charlie. I think you know.
I spent fifty years trying to unravel why we haven't
won this war, and it turns out we have the
key in our body. It's called a natural killer sell
And what has happened is nobody's figured out way to
(41:59):
turn on that natural killer cell in your body because
your body is a factory. God gave us this natural
killer cell to kill not only cancer, to kill infection.
And what is exciting, after thirty years of my life,
we found the key that could unlock this natural killer cell.
With the jab which we now called the BioShield.
Speaker 12 (42:22):
Tell us more about that, and then, so is your
main message this that cancer isn't bad genes or something
that's necessarily wrong with mutations, but is it your immune
system failing.
Speaker 13 (42:34):
That's exactly right, I saying, you know, I was, as
you said, I was in Saudi Arabia with the president,
and I was at Qatar and I met with the
Saudi Arabian regularity authorities and then given them all my information.
They made an astounding insightful statement that doctor Sun Shong,
what you've figured out is that your immune system is
(42:58):
a disease, meaning the loss of the natural killer cells,
and cancer happens just to be a symptom. And never
have we treated the root cause eye e. The disease,
which is the depletion of the natural killer cells in
your body. And I said, wow, you really understood this,
(43:19):
You really got it. What is even more disconcerting is
there understanding now that when we give high dose chemotherapy,
when we give high dose radiation, thinking that we're helping
the cancer patient, we actually wiping out the natural killer
(43:39):
cell and are then surprised that the patient gets metastasis
and spread and say we can't cure it. We have
not been treating the actual root cause of the disease,
which is the immune system or the history of medicine.
Speaker 12 (43:56):
So let me try to just ask it a question
that I know our audience has A is it true
that cancer rates are going up with young people in particular?
And b what is causing that? At least anecdotally, doctor,
I know people that I went to high school with
in my local community that are thirty five and thirty
six years old in Chicago. They're getting colon cancer. They're
(44:18):
getting cancers at a very young age. Is it true
that cancer rates are going up? Or is that just
media hysteria? And if true, what is causing that?
Speaker 13 (44:28):
Tell you ask exactly the right questions. That's why I
was in Saudi Arabia. You know, sixty percent of the
population they are under thirty and your audience, the college audience,
is something that I am very worried about, meaning the
following I have now beginning to see the cancer rate's
not only going up, but going up in younger people.
(44:48):
I have never seen a ten year old with colon cancer.
I've never seen a thirteen year old with metastatic pancreatic
cancer in my life. We are now seeing ovarian cancers
in twenty twenty one year olds. Yes, it is ridiculous.
What's going on? And I call that turbo cancers? And
you and I can delve into it, how we can
(45:10):
delve into it? Because I worry and your audience are
now more aware and smarter and sophisticated with the social
media to understand this is a real phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yes it is.
Speaker 12 (45:24):
And so what would you say, is one of the
main reasons that we're missing why this is happening? The
immune system is failing. Is that have anything to do
with happening post COVID that actually getting COVID? Is it
something that we are eating? Is it a failure of
the pharmaceutical companies? Because I can't imagine a thirty six
year old friend of mine who you know, he bikes,
(45:44):
he regularly exercises, he moderately drinks, he gets colon cancer
at age thirty six. This is we're supposed to be
getting healthier, doctor. The promise of modernity was that every
year we'd get healthier. But it seems as if we're
getting sicker.
Speaker 13 (46:00):
So it is a combination of all Charlie, let's delve
into it. First of all, we now suffering the long
term effects of all the toxins you're write. What we
eat is the dyes and everything has been talked about
with Secretary Robbie Kennedy. The dyes that we eat, the
issues the toxins, the pfat, the p fax which is
(46:22):
actually used and how believed in it's fertilizers, but it's
what they call these never chemicals, but it's in our
milk and it's our so called organic foods. But then
you compound that with two things I worry about. One
is electromagnet really the magnetic radiation that is happening. I
don't know if you realize that our pilots in the
(46:42):
military that's up in the air here are getting high
risk earlier of prostate cancer and bladder cancer. The idea
that now when you get down to COVID, that the COVID,
whether it be from the vaccine or from the infection,
the covid virus, if it persists in your body, is
(47:05):
highly immune suppressive. So if you have the combination of
the wiping out of your immune system and at the
same time the immune suppression of whatever you have, you
now begin seeing this rise of cancer, colon cancer, pancreatic cancer,
variant cancer, breast cancer, and very interestingly enough, I'm seeing
(47:26):
so called rare tumors. They're no longer rare cleoblastomers. So
all these issues now coming to bear, and that's why
I'm so excited by the discussions we had both with
the President and his team as well as with the
(47:50):
senior leaders at Saudi Arabia and Qatar who desperately want
to bring this spy shield to the world. Se