Apple’s new Digital ID, OnePlus 15 review & Ring founder Jamie Siminoff (148, Nov 15, 2025)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
After years of saying no, is Tesla finally caving to CarPlay,
Apple launches a digital ID you can use at the airport,
and Amazon's AI can now buy stuff for you at
the price you name. Plus your tech questions answered. What's
going on? I'm Rich Dmiro and this is Rich on Tech.

(00:23):
This is the show where I talk about the tech
stuff I think you should know about. It's also the
place where I answer your questions about technology. I believe
that tech should be interesting, useful, and fun. Let's open
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(00:44):
question about technology. Email is also open. Just go to
richontech dot tv and hit contact. All right, We've got
some great guests this week. Alison Johnson, senior reviewer at
the Verb, is going to share her review of the
one plus fifteen and why if you love battery life,

(01:05):
this might be the phone for you. And later, Jamie Simonoff,
founder of Rain, is going to join to talk about
his new book Ding Dong and how his garage project
grew into a billion dollar brand. And later in the
show of Assant dhar nyu Stern, professor and AI pioneer.
We'll explain his new book called Thinking with Machines and

(01:29):
how we stay in control as AI gets more powerful. Well,
I hope you are having a fantastic day in Los Angeles.
It is raining, and it doesn't rain often in this city,
but when it does, everything just grinds to a halt.
People don't know how to drive rivers overflow.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
People just go a little nutty.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
And it's for good reason, because we're just so used
to never thinking about the weather. So when it rains,
for some reason, it likes to do it for a
very long time. I think they call this like an
atmospheric river. This is literally like a river that's just
like you know, going into your city. So it is
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Uber has a new option, canoe. It's raining so hard

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just says good luck. Oh, it's raining so hard in La.
Rappers are apologizing for saying make it rain. Finally, La
has so much rain right now, even Trump wants to
put a teriff on it. Thank you, folks. I'll be
here all day. I you know, look, I you have

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to have some fun on this show. And I think
we do have a lot of fun. And you know,
the biggest news of the week, this is just wild.
The biggest news in the tech world this week. I
kid you not okay, all jokes aside. Apple launched a
knitted accessory that lets you wear your iPhone like an

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extra pocket. No joke, This is not a joke. No,
we could stop the jokes. This is true. Apple teamed
up with the fashion brand isse Miaki and introduced a
new accessory called the iPhone Pocket. This is a three
D knitted pouch inspired by the idea of a get
this piece of cloth. It holds an iPhone and it

(04:04):
also stretches to hold other small items. Now, I am
not joking. This is all true. It's called the iPhone pocket.
This literally stole all the tech headlines for the week.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And the wildest thing about it.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay, it looks like an elongated sock that you can
slip your iPhone into. It's kind of like it looks
like an elongated sock, or almost like if your kid
does karate, like the karate belt. But there's like a
slit in the center that lets you put your phone
in there and hold it, and then you can put it.
You know, you can carry it by hand, you can
tie it to your bag, you can wear it like
a crossbody strap. There are two different strap lengths. Okay

(04:41):
you ready. One hundred and forty nine dollars for the
short strap, two hundred and twenty nine dollars for the
long strap. Over one hundred dollars now. Apple sells a
lot of accessories for the iPhone. A case for the
iPhone is expensive, a screw, a case, a screen protector
is expensive.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
This is a new one.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It is available. They're already sold out. Apparently I did
not go to the store to buy one. But they
come in different colors. But again, this is the iPhone
pocket and it's a collaboration with the Japanese fashion brand
Issey Miyaki.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, there you have it.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Now in more useful Apple News, they did introduce something
that is kind of cool this week called digital ID.
So if you have been dragging your feet on getting
a real ID but you have a passport, you can
now set up this digital ID in Apple Wallet and
use it to travel.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
So this works on iPhone and Apple Watch.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's you know, kind of built into the same system
as Apple Pay, and you can use it at two
hundred and fifty TSA checkpoints for domestic travel. Don't try
to use this for international travel. It is not a
passport replacement, but if you don't have a real ID,
you can use this to travel domestically. Now, personally, I
would still bring your passport as a backup, but you know,
you can use this on your phone. So to set

(05:58):
it up, all you have to do is open up
Apple Wallet on your phone, scan your passport's photo page.
Then you scan the chip on the back of your
passport with the iPhone. Then you take a selfie, you
move around, it verifies you are who you say you are,
and then once you're verified, by whatever system they use
to verify you. The digital idea is now in your wallet,
and so you can use this at TSA checkpoints. Like

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I said, but the idea here is really to create
almost a new digital idea that could be used everywhere
all kinds of businesses, because businesses will be able to
eventually accept this. So if you're going into a club,
I don't know why you would be, but if you're
going into a club, you're buying alcohol at the grocery store,
theoretically the businesses would be able to have you tap

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your iPhone and prove that you are twenty one or
who you say you are. So kind of an interesting
new thing. If you want to set that up, go
into your Apple wallet and look for digital idea. I've
not done that, so I can't tell you how easy
the process is. But I've added my driver's license to
the Apple wallet and it works pretty well. It's a
little bit tricky at the airport to get it because basically,

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if to tap your phone and then do face ID,
which requires like pulling up your phone a little bit,
and so it's a little bit awkward, but I think
they'll figure that out eventually.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
And then Amazon this week. This is just wild.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
So they put out this press release saying that they're
gonna have all their deals for Black Friday and Cyber
Monday start on November twentieth through December first. Right then,
there is one little line about this new feature called
auto by, and this is wild. You can now have
Amazon's AI buy stuff for you automatically.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
So here's how it works.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
You go onto an item on the Amazon app, and
then you look for that little rufous icon that's like
their AI icon.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's usually in the lower right hand corner.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
You tap that and then you just say, you know,
buy this when the price drops below one hundred dollars
or whatever you want the price to be, or buy
it when the price drops twenty percent, or you can
just tap in a type in auto by and it
will bring up the kind of the flow to get
this set up. And so once you do that, it
gives you a whole bunch of information about the product.

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It says, here's you know, you can choose these various
prices that you can set, or here's the lowest price
this product's ever been.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
So if you just want to start with that, you can.
And so you can set this up.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
It'll just watch the price once you set it up,
every thirty minutes, it'll check the price of this item,
and if it drops to the price that you've set,
it will purchase it for you. No, it's not going
to buy it for you. It will purchase it for
you using your default payment method and your shipping address,
and you'll get a notification that the order has been
processed and you have twenty four hours if you want

(08:41):
to cancel it, and of course you can always return
these things. You can have up to two hundred of
these alerts at one time, so it's kind of brilliant.
It's also kind of scary because I've already set up
a bunch of alerts. I don't even remember what they're for,
so all of a sudden, I'm just gonna start getting
stuff shiped to my house because I'm like, oh, yeah,
that was a good price. But during the holidays, it's
kind of cool because if you have your eye and

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a bunch of stuff, this is an easy way to
buy it when it hits a price that you are
comfortable with. So again, go into the Amazon app, find
a product that you want, and just type in auto by.
After you hit the little roofus icon and that will
start the flow of how to set this thing up,
and you can cancel them as at any time, and
then Tesla this news. I don't do rumors on this

(09:22):
show most of the time. Rumors and speculation I do
not typically do. But I have to do this one
because I think that CarPlay is really really cool and
Tesla does not have it, and it's one of the
most requested features from owners. And so now the rumor is,
according to Bloomberg, that Tesla is testing car Play to

(09:43):
add it to the Tesla cars. Now, it would run
inside a window on the Tesla interface. It wouldn't replace
their entire system. But the cool thing is it would
support wireless CarPlay, So when you get into your car,
your iPhone would immediately be projected onto that screen in
the middle a. So that means you can access Siri,
you can use your music apps, whatever you want, whatever

(10:04):
app that has a car play app. You'd suddenly be
able to use this in car play. About a third
of buyers, according to Bloomberg, say missing car player Android
Auto stops them from choosing a car. It didn't stop
me from getting another Tesla, you know, the Tesla saved
my life. I still really really like my car, but
I would really love to have car play in it.

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It's not going to control all the features like self
driving or all the vehicle settings, but hey, I will
take it. And I feel like I'm not the only
Tesla person out there that would take this car with CarPlay,
because I was in a rental car for a month
after my accident and it had car play and I
just absolutely loved it. I just remembered how great it was,

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and so that may be coming to Tesla hopefully. It
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(11:08):
being with me here. My name is rich Demiro more
rich on tech coming your way right after this. Coming
up this hour, we have Alison Johnson from The Verge
to talk about the new one plus fifteen smartphone. I've
been testing this out and she has her review. I
think a lot of the reviews agreed in the same

(11:31):
places it's a great phone. But we'll get all of
her thoughts on that coming up. Let's go to Wayne
in Silver Lake. Wayne, you're on with Rich.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Rich listening to your program, especially when you have your
kids on explaining things for us.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's what we need, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
We need to get them on more often. They don't
want to be on as much anymore. I don't know why.
Too busy playing roadblocks.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Okay, great, listen. I'm trying to buy on Black Friday
projector for that I can use for the to project
the films to see. But I'd like to use one
inside and outside. And the last time I was shopping
for when you had to buy a specific screen so
it would auto focus. But that won't work outside if

(12:18):
I'm using a huge paint tarp in the backyard.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Why do you want to use a paint tarp?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Well, because I don't. I don't know. I just thought
buying one of those kind of screens would be the
expense of doing that. That's my other projector. We use
that and that worked out. Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
What I would say is, I mean, look you can
if you're going to put the money into a projector,
I would say, get the screen.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I have a screen. I bought it during COVID.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
You know, it was big, and it's you know, it's bulky,
but you know, you get it and it's gonna look
a lot better because a screen has some like reflective
properties and the you know, built into the product that's
going to just make your entire experience better because the
picture is going to be brighter, your picture is going
to be crisper. And yes, a lot of the new

(13:09):
projectors do the auto keystone I think they call it,
which means you basically just set them up on a table.
The toughest part is getting it at the distance from
the screen, because you know you have to make sure
it fits on there. But once you do, it's pretty
much any angle these projectors are at, they will automatically
adjust the picture to look like it's you know, not

(13:30):
off kilter or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
On the screen, it looks great.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So with that said, if you're looking for a projector
for outside, and I assume you're going to take this in,
you know, when it's raining and the weather's not very
good and stuff like that, I will tell you a
couple of the projectors that have come through on this
show that reviewers have liked. I've I've tested a couple
of them myself, the X Jimmy, x G I, M I,

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and they make a lot of great projectors that people like,
and of course they're going to have a Black Friday sale,
and they've got some port projectors like the Mogo four,
which I've tested and I really like that.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
So that's a good place to start.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
X G I, M I. And then we actually had
on a guest a couple months ago, Philip Jones, who
is the lead reviewer at Projector Reviews. You know, he
kind of talked about what to look for when buying
a projector, and he also gave us some recommendations. Now,
his top of the line recommendation is the epsom QL
seven thousand that's going to run you a cool thirty

(14:28):
three thousand dollars. I don't think you're getting that one
for your backyard. That is not going to happen. And
his other two that he really likes are just as expensive,
so we're not going to do those. But I did say, hey,
do you have anything that like the average person can afford,
And the one that he mentioned is yaber Y a
b e er. He specifically said the v twelve and

(14:49):
if you look that up, that's about three hundred dollars.
Typically it's on sale right now. It's early Black Friday,
so typically it runs about four to twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
And the other one that he liked, let's see where
it was.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
That's here, Oh, the Epsin Epsin, Epic Epiq, Epic Vision Flex,
and that is a three hundred and thirty dollars projector. Again,
I would probably wait for the for the Black Friday sales.
Like you said, I'm gonna look this up. I'm using
rufus on Amazon to see what the price has dropped

(15:24):
to on this Amazon on this Epic Vision from So
let's see. So the cheapest price ninety days cheapest price
is right now, Yeah, three hundred and twenty five dollars.
So that's the cheapest it's ever been. So that's a
great price for this device right now. And the main
thing about this is that, look, you got everything you need,

(15:44):
three hundred inch screen, it's got streaming ready, three thousand lumens,
and this thing looks like a winner.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
The other thing I should mention is that TCL does
have a projector as well. What was the one that
there was one that's also three hundred and twenty nine dollars,
so the other one that, oh yeah, Netflix officially licensed.
So that's kind of cool because here's the thing about
some of these projectors. You get them and the software,
Like if you're just going on Amazon and buying a
projector that's like really cheap, the software is going to

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drive you nuts because it's so bad, and a lot
of them don't have the apps built in that you want,
and so you're gonna end up having to add a
third party device like a Chrome cast to them or
an Amazon fire Stick, which is fine, but it's nice
that some of these devices actually have a license for
Roku or Netflix built in or Google TV, which I

(16:34):
think if you find one with those, it's going to
be a lot better experience for you because you're not
going to be having to juggle a second device that
you're connecting to these devices. So just be aware that
that's one of the delineations between some of these cheaper
project projectors. Wayne, thanks so much for the call today
from Silver Lake, or as I called it today, Silver

(16:55):
Sa because it's raining so much here in La Stay
dry eight eight eight rich one one eight eight eight
seven four to two four one zero one coming up,
We're going to talk about the new one plus fifteen
smartphone right here on rich On Tech. Lots to do today,
lots on the show. We've got so many great guests.

(17:17):
One of them is joining us right now, Alison Johnson,
senior reviewer at The Verge, does all the smartphone stuff
at the Verge.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Allison, thanks for joining.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Me, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
So today we.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Are talking about the one plus fifteen. This is a
brand new phone. That is I say it kind of
went on sale because it's gone on sale in other
places but not the US.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
This is the first time I've ever seen this happen.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
But this phone was delayed for sale in the US
because the company couldn't get the appropriate permissions because the
government was shut down. This is the first time I've
ever seen this happen. Have you seen this happen before?

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Uh No, It's such a strange situation.

Speaker 7 (17:56):
And you know, definitely the the shut down is over
in theory, but it's who knows how long of a backlog.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
The FCC has.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
They've gone a month without working on any of these
kinds of approvals. So one plus is very much like
we are ready to sell this device. We have submitted
everything we need to, but it's just a question mark
of when that will actually go on zale.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So they said, yes, we have.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
You know, the one plus has finished all the required
tests from the FCC's recognized labs and the certification application
has been formally submitted. So it is a nine hundred
dollars phone and it's it's great specs.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So you get this great screen.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
And the snap Dragon eight Elite Gen five I think
they're calling it, and this giant battery. So can you
tell me about this phone, like what your first impressions
are of it?

Speaker 7 (18:53):
Yeah, it is extremely souped up, I guess, is how
I would describe it. You have that snap Dragon chipset,
which is brand new. It's going to be the chip
set in the Android flagships, you know, for the coming year.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
So it's got that.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
We've got a huge battery, seventy three hundred million hours
is insane, you know, compared to anything else from Samsung, Google, Apple.
They're using that new silicon carbon technology for the battery,
which allows them to cram in that huge cell.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Most phones are about I would say, what three thousand
to five thousand, Yeah, yeah, of cours.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Five thousand is like very good. You know, so this
is just head and shoulders above that.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
And so from every review I saw in my personal experience,
the battery life on this phone, like I couldn't believe it.
I'm just like, okay, this thing, like you never need
to charge it practically.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
If you have a night where you're you know, you're
laying down to get some sleep and you realize, oh, I.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
Got to charge my phone. It's but it's across the room.
Who can be bothered to get up and do that.
It's optional.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
You don't have to.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
Get up in charge the phone. You can just cruise
through it. You will probably have no problems through the
following day. I think, depending on your settings, you could
get like well into a third day, depending on how
much of a power user you are. But I think
comfortably this is a two day phone for just about anyone.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
And it's got, I mean, the specs.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
If you are like an Android fanatic, like if you're
like a phone geek, the specs are perfect across the board.
Like you get a great screen, you get it's a
great size, it's got a great material that just feels
good in your hand.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
You know. The memory like you.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Can get like I think the one they sent was
like sixteen gigs of RAM plus five twelve gigs of storage,
triple fifty megapixel cameras, so it hits all the marks.
Super fast charging of course, so it hits all the marks,
and like when you use this device, it is so fast.
I'm not a huge fan of their software anymore. Like

(21:06):
they've changed a lot to kind of emulate iPhone a lot,
and I think it's kind of eh, Like I'd rather
have it emulate more of uh, you know, the pixel.
But and then they also dropped the Hasselblod uh partnership
for this new detail Max engine for their photography. So
I will say that my biggest downside is the camera

(21:26):
is a little hit or miss for me. What what
were your findings there?

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Yeah, about the same for me. And you know, the
one plus thirteen, the phone that came before this, with
the with the Hassle Blood kind of color processing and everything,
it was great, really nice colors, really nice photos. APO
you know, parent company to one plus still uses that

(21:51):
Hassleblod branding in the image pipeline in their in their appo,
you know, flagship phones, so not on the one plus
and there they've turned to this detail Max engine, which
is kind of their own special sauce for processing your photos,
and it, you know, like most modern phones, when you're

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in good lighting, it looks good.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
It's hard to take a bad photo with a with
a modern phone, I feel like.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
But the thing for me that really felt like a
step down this year is all those camera sensors there's
on the rear. You know, you've got the fifty megapixel
in the main camera, the ultra wide, and the telephoto,
but all of those sensors are just a little bit
smaller than the ones that were on the one plus thirteen,

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and I think that really hurts image quality, especially when
you get into low light where you have a subject
that's moving around in less than great light, which it
just seems to be how I take pictures these days.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, I mean, it's just capturing less light. It's you
know that it's not going to look as good like
in general, and these cameras have gotten so good at night,
Like I think that that's the problem, is like they're
now pushing up against like the Pixels of the world,
the Samsung's of the world, the you know, obviously the
iPhone of the world. So if you want to compete
with them, you have to be as good and in

(23:19):
some ways better, which they are with the battery life
and the specs. I mean, this to me is like,
I this is my ideal Android phone. Like it's just
it's screaming fast, It's got every single spec it's got
the right kind of hand feel like, it's just every
it just fires on everything, except for when I have
it in my pocket.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I don't trust the camera, and that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
The other thing that I realized as I was going
through this phone is that all of these phones, the
ones I just mentioned, they all have at their base
basically satellite messaging. They all have like car crash and
all these protections built in which the one plus just
does not have. And that to me is like kind
of a deal breaker.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
It is becoming one of those things that I think
people are slowly realizing that they're going to find useful.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
I was at a.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
Trailhead earlier this year, no sales service at all, but
I had an iPhone seventeen on me and I was
able to send out a message over satellite to let
my husband know where I was so people are going
to start having those moments where they were like, oh,
this is this is a future I can expect from
my phone, and it's actually going to come in handy sometimes.

(24:31):
And yeah, one plus is just like kind of a
step behind on things like that.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
There is a lot.

Speaker 7 (24:37):
Of a little bit of like me too with the
with the AI features, there's a lot of like you
mentioned iOS influence here, So it does feel a little
bit like they are they're catching up in some ways,
and maybe that'll come on the next version.

Speaker 9 (24:56):
All right.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Bottom line is say nine hundred dollars or one thousand
dollars to pen on the model you get. Bottom line,
We've got about thirty seconds. Who do you think this
is for? Do you recommend this phone for anyone?

Speaker 7 (25:06):
If you hate charging your phone, if you commute on
public transit and you are always running your battery down
and you're tired of it, this is the phone, man.
It is so cool to go through two entire days
using a lot of screen time and just not worrying
about battery life.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
I think that was just a game changer for me.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
All Right, there you have it.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Alison Johnson, senior reviewer at The Verge, check out her review.
The one plus fifteen is the phone to buy if
you hate charging your phone. That is the title right there.
You can find it at the Verge dot com. Alison,
thanks so much for joining.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Me, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Really appreciate it. All right, coming up, we're going to
do the Gadget of the Week. Phone lines are packed,
We've got you, we will talk to more of you
on the phone, and just lots to get through today.
It's a busy day here in the tech world. Eight
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This is rich on Tech pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Every time it rains hard in LA I post the
same exact video and I've been doing it for I
can't believe it six years now. Today I actually re
edited the video and it's this silly video of me
using this like weather pod thing. It's like an umbrella
that like straps to you then like it's like you
just got to look at it. But it's basically if

(26:34):
you've ever been to like a Chick fil A, the
order takers wear them. But this was novel back when
I did this video, I've never seen this thing before
and I just popped it open put it on. I said, oh,
let's do a little video, and so we shot the video.
It you know, sort of went viral, and every time
it rains, I post this video. Well, when I first
edited the video, there was no such thing as like

(26:54):
reels or vertical video, so it was like a square,
tiny video. Now I went back, I did the whole thing,
I said, I remastered it, and so I literally went
through and made it like a real And of course,
you know, some people already have seen it, so they're
like laughing again. Some people are discovering it. But it
is at at rich On Tech. Check it out. It's
just kind of silly and fun. The other thing I

(27:14):
want you to check out there is this fingerprint padlock.
By the way, both of these products are shark tank products.
I can't I just realized. But it's so silly because
people debate the things that I post, like this fingerprint
padlocks called the Benji lock outdoor fingerprint padlock.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
You go buy it on Wayfair. And this guy met
him at CS.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
He invented this thing because he said, you know, he
was at the gym and someone lost their locker combination
or whatever their key and he said, why isn't there
a lock that you can have without, you know, a lock,
like a code or a finger anyway, so he came
up with a fingerprint code. I'm sorry, I'm distracting, so
I'm looking up my story so I can see what

(27:55):
he said was his was the reason why he came
up with this thing. Of course I can't find it
now anyway. It's a fingerprint padlock. It's forty millimeters stainless
steel body, satin nickel finish IP sixty eight waterproof, can
handle the weather, the dust, the rain. You can store
up to ten different fingerprints and you just basically put

(28:16):
your fingerprint on the bottom and unlocks. So if you
have family members, they can also register their fingerprints. But
the neat thing is you can do it all without internet,
no Wi Fi, no app. It's all completely offline. And
I said in my video the battery lasts up to
a year. I probably should have said the rechargeable battery
lives last for up to a year, because it's got
a little USB sport that you can charge it with.

(28:38):
So I thought it was really cool. It's just such
a neat idea for like the gym, because I go
so few times to the gym that I always forget
my code to my locker, and so or my locker,
you know my padlock, and so I'm my combination. And
so this is just perfect because all I need is
my fingerprint. So anyway, check it out on Instagram or

(28:59):
just look it up. It's called the Benjilock Outdoor Fingerprint Padlock,
now available on Wayfair eighty dollars. Yes, it's expensive, but
again new technology, and that's what happens with new technology.
All right, let's go to Chime in Sherman Oaks.

Speaker 10 (29:14):
Chime you're on with Rich Hi, they are Rich. I
am spoiled by FM type fidelity. Obviously I have about
eight HD radios here, so that would probably prove it.
I still have a landline, but it's through AT and
T U Verse, and on my instrument I get normal quality.

(29:36):
But yet when we use my wife's cordless phone or
either of our cell phones, it's hi Fi, And I'm like, well,
isn't there some way to get that kind of fidelity
through this instrument? Is like an adapter I can get to.
I think there's another connection inside the uverse modem that's

(29:56):
for something else other than hooking up an instrument. Any
any guesses on that.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Uh no, you're you're trying to basically get higher quality
audio out of your smartphone.

Speaker 10 (30:08):
No, no, no, this is not a smartphone. This is
like a standard instrument. I mean, like like you would
have for a regular old fashioned landline.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, when you say instrument, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 10 (30:19):
Ummm, just uh, you know, plugged into the wall. You
don't take it with you, it's stays.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay. Oh it's a standard phone. Yes, yes, okay, got it.

Speaker 10 (30:28):
And as a matter of fact, since I'm totally blind,
I got this phone from one of this outfit that
loans out phones to folks with special needs.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
What's it called? So maybe other.

Speaker 10 (30:38):
People can get XL forty or something?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
What's it? What's what's the outfit?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Umm?

Speaker 10 (30:45):
Oh, you know, I can't remember the name of it.
They're coming to show me some new new instruments on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh that's neat.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
So you're trying to figure out how to get that
same high quality audio where on.

Speaker 10 (30:57):
This instrument, through through through my universe, through the universe.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Got it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Well here's the thing I think is happening. I mean,
what's happening is you know, if you're if you're looking
to get higher quality audio. I mean, it's I don't
think unless that device has a way to toggle that,
I'm not sure you're gonna be able to add that
because you're at the mercy of whatever system that device
is using. I don't think it's the uverse situation. I

(31:22):
think that you know, whatever you plug into there, you're
gonna get the audio equality from that device itself. And
I know with all this stuff, it's all compressed nowadays,
it's all you know, it's all digital, and so it's
not it's not gonna have the richness of an analog
connection that you're probably used to or that you had
in the past. And clearly you you can tell the difference,

(31:43):
and I can tell the difference.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I can.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I can tell when I'm on different phones if the
audio quality is tinny or if it's just a little
bit higher, you know, or lower quality or higher quality.
Like I can tell basics. But it sounds like you're
a little bit more attuned to this stuff. I would say,
you know, when they come to to talk about this
equipment that you've got, see if they have any suggestions

(32:04):
for higher quality, you know, either a hands a headset
or something you can plug into this, but I'm not sure.
I've not really heard about that, especially when it comes
to audio quality. I feel like people have just given
up on audio quality at this point. Eight eight eight
rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to
two four one zero one More rich on Tech. Come
in your way right after this. Welcome back to rich

(32:30):
on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking
technology at Triple eight rich one O one eight eight
eight seven four to two four one zero one.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Uh, We've got a.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Great show today, so much to talk about. Jamie Simonov,
founder of Ring, Yeah, the video doorbell company, He's going
to be joining us this hour to talk about his
new book, which I'm reading and just very much enjoying.
And I've we'll talk more about this, but I've been
kind of on the the Ring. I don't know, I
was like one of the earliest people to review their

(33:01):
original device, which was called door Bob by the way.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Back in the day.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
So we can talk about all things Ring and you know,
going on Shark Tank and all that good stuff. If
you are into bitcoin, you've been watching your bitcoin this
week was.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Brutal, really really brutal.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Last five days down ten percent, last month down fifteen percent,
past six months six percent. But the good news is
it's up too percent for the year, so I guess
that's good. It's at ninety five thousand, which if you're
following bitcoin, you know a couple months ago it was
that like uh one twenty something like that. So yeah,

(33:41):
why did this happen?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
But of course tech stocks are also falling, and bitcoin
often moves with them. Analysts, according to CNBC say there's
less money in the system, so people are selling to
cover other losses. I don't know what that means. I'm
you know, I'm not one of these like investor p
so I don't know. None of this stuff makes sense
to me, Like why does it go up? Why does
it go down? All the bitcoin people have a reason.

(34:05):
Don't worry about It'll be fine. But the one thing
I do know is that these institutions are buying more bitcoin,
and so they play a bigger role in crypto. And
so everyone with bitcoin says, oh, every four years, it's
not like this cycle of up and down in four years,
but now because it's it's so many people are in it,
like these big, huge companies that buy it for their clients.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I think it's just changing the nature of it.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
And of course some people say like I told my
kid about this, Oh well, got to buy it then.
I mean, it's funny how some people are just born optimists.
My kid is one of them. He'says like, oh, that's
the time to buy it. Gotta love that, right, I'm
not giving you that advice. I don't know what's gonna
happen with bitcoin. If you've got Spectrum, you can get
a free speed boost for Thanksgiving Week. So Spectrum is

(34:52):
giving customers a speed boost up to one gig I've
never seen this happen before. But basically, if you go
on the my Spectrum app, look the offer. They're calling
it Thanksgigging thanks Gigging Week. But you go on the
app and yeah, and you just basically activate this, then
they'll they'll boost your speed to one gigabit. One gigabit

(35:14):
and it runs November. Let's see, No, it's running now
through December. First, you have through December twenty fourth to activate.
November twenty fourth to activate it. And basically they're saying, hey,
you know, here's a freebee for you.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Now you you don't have to do anything to like
cancel it or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
But it's just kind of cool because you know, it's
a busy time during Thanksgiving week. You might have extra
people at your house, you might have you know, guests,
you might be all using your devices, so this is
kind of nice.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
To have that speed boost.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
People are telling me though, that if you have your
own let's see, what did this person say? A couple
people have been writing me saying basically, if you have
your own personal router, you can't take advantage of this
free promotion.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
You have to have one of the Spectrum routers.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
So you know, I'm getting a lot of mixed kind
of reviews on this promotion, but I would try it.
You know, there's a link on my website Rich on
tech dot tv in the show notes to sign up
for it, or just go to the my Spectrum app
and look for the offer through November twenty fourth. You
don't have to like sign up for something new. It's
just literally one click and you're good. All right, let's

(36:18):
go to Lee has been patiently waiting in Memphis, Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Lee, you're on with Rich.

Speaker 11 (36:26):
Hey, good afternoon, Rich, wondering about that Apple car play
that you're talking about with Tesla, Yeah, is that going
to be something that they are able to update to
car owners already?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
They did not say that.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And this is why I don't like to do rumors
in my show because I don't know the answer.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
But here's the thing. Do you have a Tesla?

Speaker 11 (36:50):
My son does?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Okay? How long has he had it?

Speaker 11 (36:54):
Since twenty one?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Okay? So I had.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I got a Tesla in twenty twenty one as well,
and I could not believe how many new features they
added to that car over time. Like I'm talking, when
I first got that car, there was no support for Spotify,
there was no support for Apple Music, there was no
support for YouTube music, there was no support for Amazon Music.
There's no support for Audible, I mean, and then not

(37:18):
to mention all the little features they added, like what
is it the blind spot you know detection and the
you know, the cameras when you're changing lanes. So one
thing that I've seen over time with Tesla is that
they add new features to their older cars, kind of
like the iPhone, like it is always getting new features
or an Android, And so I would have no reasonab

(37:40):
believe I think there will be a cutoff for which
models will be able to take advantage of this new
software just based on the specs that those cars have,
like if they have an older processor or something, they
can't handle it. But I will tell you, just knowing
what I know about car play and seeing how many
cars it's in, I don't think you need a lot
to run that. And I think that even older Tesla's
will alt run it. So I would say it's probably

(38:02):
a good chance that the car, even older cars, will
get it. And so that's gonna be a really I
mean overnight, You're gonna have people that are just very
very happy to have this. So well, see Lee, I
I hope it. I hope it comes to all of them.

Speaker 11 (38:16):
All right, I appreciate it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
All right, thanks for calling today. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight
seven four to two four one zero one. Let's see here,
Let's uh to Amazon, let's see, let's go to Man.
So many calls. I'm trying to Okay, let's see, let's
go to Kevin. I'm trying to look at people who
have been waiting for a long time. Kevin in San
Diego looks like that's line four.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Kevin, you're on with Oh.

Speaker 12 (38:41):
Actually, now I'm in Orange County, I'm the coach.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Oh my gosh, well you made some progress, so that
means the traffic is not so bad.

Speaker 11 (38:48):
No, it's not.

Speaker 12 (38:49):
Neither is the I'm sorry, not rain, but atmospheric river.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yes, it's uh, we don't get rain. I remember when
I first got to LA, there was something called El
Nino and it was my first, like I don't know, experience,
and I was like, wait, what's the deal. I thought
it ever rained in LA and they're like, oh no,
this is something different. But I feel like every couple
of years we get something similar. But anyway, what can
I help you with, Kevin?

Speaker 12 (39:13):
Okay, I upgraded from fourteen iPhone fourteen Promax to the
new seventeen Promax nice through T Mobile, and there are
two things that just will not work at all, and
it's so frustrating. Apple can't help me and T Mobile

(39:35):
can't help me.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Okay, I love you calling me When Apple and T
Mobile can't help, you're like, oh, maybe rich who can't
even see my phone, can help. But I will do
my best. I'm just not guaranteeing that I will be
able to solve this. But let's hear what the problem is.

Speaker 9 (39:49):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (39:49):
Well, I have a wife in Thailand and we communicate
through Facebook Messenger. We have been for quite some time,
whether it's texting, whether it's selling sending photos, or whether
it's selling short you know, under one minute videos. It's
never had an issue with my fourteen. When I with
the seventeen, Uh, it just says sending, sending, sending, like

(40:12):
all day, you know, even a text. So what I
had to do is delete the app and reinstall it,
and it works for maybe a few hours and then sending, sending, sending,
and it's frustrating. I have to I have to delete

(40:32):
the app and reinstall it, you know, a dozen times
per day.

Speaker 9 (40:37):
Oh well, I won't work with.

Speaker 12 (40:38):
My friends either, So it's not because it's going overseas
or her phone.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Hmmm. Interesting.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I was gonna say, well, and these things work no
matter where the people are.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I mean, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
That's the beauty of something like a you know, a
third party messaging app like a WhatsApp or a messenger
is that they work universally no matter what device these
the other person's on or where they live, which is
what's great about them. So it does, okay, And so
you've deleted the app and it'll start to work and
then it stops working.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yes, and every single time.

Speaker 13 (41:10):
Yeah, it'll it'll work a couple of times, you know,
and then it'll just you know, an hour goes by,
she'll send another text, or I'll send a text, and
it just sending, sending, sending.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
And it's only is it her or is it everyone?

Speaker 10 (41:25):
Everyone?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Interesting? That is uh yeah, that's a that's a head scratcher.
Have you tried a different app with her, like a
WhatsApp just out of curiosity?

Speaker 12 (41:35):
Well, WhatsApp works fine, and.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
It works fine, okay, so it's just Messenger. Interesting. Well,
I would say.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
You've deleted the app, and when you delete the app,
do you restart your phone?

Speaker 12 (41:47):
I have done that, and or I just you know,
delete it and you know, reinstalled or reinstall it and
then it will.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Work okay temporarily. Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I'm looking at your Okay, I'm looking at like device.
I'm looking if there's any sort of options inside the
Messenger app that would be doing this that would maybe
be like you know, restricting this or or somehow slowing
it down. I'm looking and seeing I mean, you can't
really an iPhone. I would say, if it's Android, you'd

(42:18):
be able to clear out the cash or something like that,
and iPhone you really can't do that. So there's not
really a way to kind of besides deleting an app,
there's not much more you can do. Here's my question,
what about if you try sending a message on your desktop,
does it still give you the same error?

Speaker 12 (42:35):
You know, I have not yet tried that. In fact,
I've never used the Messenger on my desktop.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Okay, well, I'm gonna sign you some homework and you
don't have to call me back, and let's try that.
So I want you to go to you know, messenger
dot com and try logging in and seeing if you
get the hang ups there. If you don't get the
hang ups there, then it's something that has to do
with your phone. And if you get the hang ups there,
then it's something on your account. So that's what I
would do, is try that first, get back to me

(43:07):
Kevin next week or send me an email we can
diagnose and see what's happening there. I would think, I mean,
this sounds like a very very odd thing because usually
it's so simple to use apps like this, like they
just work everywhere, And unless I would say your phone
had a storage problem, like if there was no storage
available on your phone, that's really the only thing I
can think of that would be causing this to happen,

(43:29):
because if you've got Wi Fi and you've got your signal,
you're fine. Unless you were using like a VPN or
some sort of AD blocker. That's the only other thing
I can think of that might be interfering, So I
would check those things as well. Great question, definitely one
of those head scratchers, but hopefully we can figure it out.

(43:49):
Thanks for the call today, Kevin, appreciate it. First in
San Diego, now in Orange County. All right, coming up?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
What else?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
What am I gonna tell you about Google rolling out
a major a shopping upgrade.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
You've got that plus.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
More of your calls at eight eight eight rich one
oh one, and we've got Jamie simonoff coming up from
ring eight eight eight seven four to two four one
zero one.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
This is rich on Tech Adam. You're on with Rich Hi.

Speaker 9 (44:23):
Rich, thanks so much for taking my call and for
help that you've given me very often listening to your program.
I wanted to let you know I need some help
with the following. I am traveling for Thanksgiving, like a
lot of people are, of course, by playing, but I'm

(44:44):
nervous that considering what's happening and flight's being canceled and
being very delayed, I won't be able to visit family
one thousand miles away traveling for Thanksgiving, so I may
have to drive, and so so I'll take a couple
of days to do it. But I still have to
do some work. I normally work from home and I

(45:08):
do everything on my PC, so I never need a laptop,
and so I may have to get an alternative. I
don't want to purchase a laptop because I'll never use
it again because all my work from home for clients
is through my PC. But I do have a Amazon

(45:28):
Fire ten tablet that I bought four years ago, and
I sometimes watch television on it through the Spectrum app.
And now my question is, I do have a Google
Drive and a Gmail account where I communicate with clients
and I type woord documents and send them back as PDFs,

(45:48):
and I may have to do that on this trip
if I'm leaving earlier the week of Thanksgiving to travel
by road, and so my question to you is is
there a way to get Google drive open up documents
to work on my Amazon's Fire tablet Because I tried it.

(46:11):
I can open it, but I can't manipulate the documents.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, well, I mean there are there probably are ways,
but I will tell you this, the Amazon Fire devices
are content consumption devices. They are not content production devices.
So what you're talking about number one? If you've noticed
on the Fire devices you can't even get the Google apps.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
There's no way to download them. I mean, yes, people
can find ways around it. There are ways to sideload
these things, but it's not easy and nor would I
recommend it. And so I'm sure you've noticed that there's
no way to download Google drives, there's no way to
download Gmail. And yes, you can go to the browser
and download them, or I guess access them from the browser,

(46:59):
but the experience is not going to be as good.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
What and you're trying to edit what a pdf?

Speaker 8 (47:05):
You said?

Speaker 9 (47:06):
Uh No, I basically have to just type client ask
need to write a short report. It's a one page thing,
and I will. I usually do it on on a
the software that that opens up word documents. I forgot
a life of I forgot the name of the the software,

(47:30):
the free software Libra Office. Yes, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 10 (47:34):
That's it.

Speaker 11 (47:34):
I've been using that.

Speaker 9 (47:36):
But I also have a Gmail and I can save
documents to my Google Drive. I just need to type
word type documents, Okay, send it back.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Well, it looks like there is an Office app on
the on the Amazon App Store, so maybe use that,
and there is also you can also use Google Docs.
So I mean, look, this can be done. It's just
it might not be as simple as it would be
on something like an iPad. So I think if you're downloading,
if you're downloading the documents, you can go to Google

(48:07):
drive drive dot Google dot com on the tablet from
the browser, do what you need to do, download the
document whatever, and then look in the app store.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Or it might be pre.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Installed for Microsoft Office. I'm not sure. I think if
it's pre installed it should work out of the box
without payment. But you can do that and then you
can use that to edit the documents. There there's some
other apps I'm looking online here. It looks like there's
something called Office Suite you might be able to use
in the app store, But basically you're at the mercy.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I thought they got rid of the Amazon App.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Store, though, I guess it's still on the tablet huh.
For Android, I guess it's not there anymore. So if
I go in here Amazon App Store and I'm just
looking up word and let's see here, so it's got Yeah,
it's got Office three sixty five and something called Office Suite.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
So those are what you're going to want to.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Use to do this work on there, and then of
course you can save the documents e mail and back
go to Gmail dot com on the browser. I'll be honest, Adam,
I would say, get yourself an iPad. It solves all
these problems. It's just such a better, such a better
experience than what you're talking about here. I just really
feel like the fire tablets are great for watching stuff

(49:17):
and consuming content. They are just not so good for
actually producing content or editing or any of that kind
of stuff. But it can be done. It's just a
matter of finding the right apps. And I think if
you do the three sixty five or the Office Suite
and the web versions of Gmail and Drive, you should
be able to do this. Now typing them out that's
gonna be a whole other subjects, you know, typing them out.

(49:38):
If you were on iPad, I'd say just download an
app to type out, like whisper flow, and it would
be amazing. You can just dictate everything, but I'm not
sure that's something you could do on this tablet.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
All right, good question, Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Adam in Orlando eight eight eight rich one O one
eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.
Coming up, we're gonna talk with Jamie Simmonoff, founder of Ring.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Let's go to Liz in San Diego. Liz, you're on
with Rich Hyrich.

Speaker 14 (50:12):
I've gone crazy with so many scams, calls uh from
the IRIS, the resolution programs, blah blah blah. I get
like ten calls and every day and they leave messages.
How can I? And they call from different er codes

(50:32):
because I block the numbers, but they call from all
kinds of eric codes eighty eight A six six eight
four four A three three? How do I get rid.

Speaker 9 (50:47):
Of these people?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Are you on iPhone or Android iPhone? Okay? Are you
on I iOS twenty six?

Speaker 3 (50:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Okay? Can you get to iOS twenty six?

Speaker 15 (51:02):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 14 (51:03):
My phone is like six years old?

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Okay, So what model do you have, do you know
specifically the x R something.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Okay, so you're on the ten R.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Okay, let me see what the compatibility is. I'm looking
at the models of the phone that can get it. Okay,
you're just after the cutoff. So the starts with the
iPhone eleven this time around. So here's the deal. Apple
just added a new feature which will screen or silence

(51:37):
unknown callers. And so that is something that I've turned
on on my phone and it really works well. The
other thing, so if you don't have that, that's unfortunately
you can't. That's not on your phone, but they do
have some other things that you can do. Have you
gone into your settings under phone? No, okay, so there

(51:58):
are let's see here. So there I'm trying to figure
out what's available on your device. I have the latest
model in front of me, so I can't see like
what's on the old devices. But I would go into
settings and then go into apps and then go into
phone and under there you'll find all your options for
screening calls. And so what I would do is if

(52:22):
you can screen calls in any way, the unknown numbers,
if you can just put them, you know, just make
sure that they just don't ring your phone. I would
do that. And so let's see here, you've got call filtering,
so you can do settings app phone. You can do
call filtering and turn on your spam filter, so that's

(52:43):
one way. And then you can filter unknown callers by
turn on unknown callers, miss calls and voicemails from unknown numbers,
or move to your unknown callers. But that doesn't keep
your phone from ringing. Now, there are third party apps
you can get, like there's an app called true Caller.
But the problem is if you're just trying to, you know,
stop these things on your phone, it's kind of tricky.

(53:03):
You just have to use what's built into your phone
if you don't want to pay anything extra. But I
would say on the new phone, like I get these
calls all the time now, and it's my phone is
always just.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Screening a call.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
And so the other thing you can turn on is
what's called live voicemail and see if that can help,
because that will pick up for you. But I think
you're just it's it's a tricky thing. These these calls
are brutal, they really are. And unless you're you know,
unless you're never picking up your phone, they're just going
to continue to ring it. So I would go into
your settings under phone and look at whatever options you

(53:37):
have available for screening these calls. The other thing, which
which carrier do you have?

Speaker 14 (53:43):
I have, Oh, got T Mobile?

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
T Mobile has something called scam Shield, and so you
can activate that as well. And so you can, let's see,
I think you have to download an app. Yeah, and
so you can download the app called scam Shield you.
I'll put a link on the website, but that's another
way to do it, so you can. I would do

(54:09):
that and see if that helps. But I'll be honest,
you're you're dealing with something that a lot of people
are dealing with. And with iOS twenty six and the
latest version of Samsung and Pixel phones, it's gotten a
lot better on how to screen these things so they
don't ring your phone first. But being on that older software,
on that older phone, it's just you're limited to what's

(54:32):
available on that phone or downloading a third party app.
But I would definitely, I would definitely go to the
T Mobile website, look up scam shield and see if
you can at least get that on your phone to
help you cut down on some of these calls. Liz
is very frustrating. It really is, and I can tell
you just because of my phone. I don't know what

(54:53):
kind of list my number got on, but it has
been the last couple of weeks it has just been NonStop,
just call. I'll call after call after call after call.
But because my phone is screening them. And if you,
by the way, okay, so I should probably tell if
you're on iOS twenty six, for sure, you want to
go into your settings apps phone and there's an option

(55:17):
under screen unknown callers never ask reason for calling or silence,
and silence is like the absolute highest level of filtering.
I do what's called ask reason for calling. So basically
my phone picks up, it says, hey, we're trying to
figure out why are you calling? Tell me the reason,
and nine times out of ten, as soon as the

(55:39):
scam system here's that, they just hang up, and so
it just cuts off the call. The caller just hangs up.
Usually their systems are automated. They're waiting to hear you
pick up the phone and that's when they take over.
So that's what i'd recommend is definitely set that up.
And if you're on Pixel or Samsung, they have similar features.
Pixel has a screen unknown callers you can let's see

(56:02):
it's called call assist, I believe, let's see here. Let's
go to phone and if you go to your settings,
you'll see that they have a call screen automatically screen
calls on the Pixel maximum protection, medium or basic. So
I definitely turn that on if you're on the Pixel,
and then if you're on Samsung, they have a similar
feature too, which also is in by the way, you

(56:25):
have to go to the phone app to turn these
things on. So you can go into the phone app
and go into your settings and you'll see they have
another one that you can block numbers, and then you
can toggle on call our ID and spam protection. And
then they also have one called let's see here, where
is it? Text text call? You can do that as well.

(56:48):
So it's really tricky. These these these scam artists, they
know what's going on, they know what they're doing, and
it's just for us we have to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
And that's the bottom line. It's not not very exciting. Okay.
So we've got Jamie on the line.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
We're gonna come to him after the break, so don't
don't worry about that. But let me tell you this
before we go to break Netflix. I played this last night.
Really really cool. Netflix added a bunch of games that
you can play on your TV, and so they added
a bunch of party games. Now they've always had games
you could play, but they added a bunch of specifically

(57:24):
party games. So Pictionary, Tetris, Boggle, Lego, Party party Crashers.
These are all games you can play easily without being
a gamer. And so Netflix has had a bunch of
stuff in the past. A lot of the stuff in
the past has been related to their programming, like let's
see what do they have, like Stranger Things they stay
I think that was their first game. But now they're

(57:46):
doing just regular games that everyone can play. And so
I tried this last night. It's really cool. You just
go on Netflix, you look for the game section, and
then you scan this QR code on your TV screen
with your phone, and then you use your phone as
a controller. Now that's cool, but also a little bit
challenging because I played this Tetris TimewARP and it's kind
of tough on your mobile phone when it's a screen

(58:09):
to be able to push buttons that you can't see
or feel. I should say, right, because if you have
a physical controller, you can feel where the buttons are
on that controller with your phone.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Because it's a flat screen and even though they.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Use haptics, you still can't exactly figure out where the
controller buttons are without looking. And so that was my
only downside to this, and that's really a Tetris thing
because you're playing so fast. But otherwise I loved it
and I was like, oh, this is cool. That's included
on Netflix. I don't think people are going to sign
up for Netflix to get these games, but it's like
a nice value add and you can play them on
your phone as well. So again on your TV, go

(58:46):
to Netflix, check out Pictionary, Tetris, Time, Warp, Boggle, all
kinds of cool stuff you can play from your TV.
And by the way, they're going to add new games,
puzzle games. Everyone's into these puzzle games, so they're gonna
add Sudoku, Crosswar, and word searches. The silly thing is
it's all gonna be based on Netflix shows, which I mean,
I guess if you're a big fan of these shows,
then sure, but otherwise it's kind of silly, Like I

(59:10):
love these games, but okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
We're gonna go to break.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
We're gonna come back and see if we can get
Jamie on the line. Eight eight eight rich one O
one eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.
My name is rich Darmiro. You are listening to rich
on tech.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
Here.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
He is Jamie Simonov, founder of Ring. He's got a
new book called Ding Dong.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Obviously get it.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Uh, he's gonna talk all about the book and his story. Jamie,
thanks for joining me, Thanks for having me. Rich So,
congrats on the book. Very exciting. I started reading it,
and uh, I love it. I think you did a
great job. I mean, I'm not done yet, but I
so far just thoroughly enjoying it.

Speaker 16 (59:54):
Yeah, you know this, it's they say like comedians, like
the best comedians had the most painful lives. I think
you know the book is good because Ring was. I
love what we did with Ring. I love the impact,
but it was certainly painful getting Ring into the world
and which where.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
It is today, which is so wild, and that's what
I really my early takeaway is that you have always
been this person who is just pushing to do new
and different things, and Ring just happens to be the
one that hit you know, I mean obviously had some
things before that, but ring is like the big one,
and it's so amazing when you have that idea and
you probably felt this way that you just wanted this

(01:00:30):
baby to happen, and it was really tough to get there.

Speaker 8 (01:00:33):
Yeah, I like had to have it happen.

Speaker 16 (01:00:35):
And it's funny because the baby you're talking about people
think is the doorbell.

Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
It actually wasn't.

Speaker 16 (01:00:39):
It was the mission to make neighborhoods safer, and once
like we invented I'll say that mission, I couldn't stop.
I still can't stop, like I since since then, I've
not been able to stop thinking about it, executing on it,
trying to build with it and get it out there.
And we've been very fortunate to be pretty successful with it.
But it was very close a few times, which makes

(01:01:01):
again the book, the book super entertaining because the life
was very.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Difficult, pretty successful. I mean, look, you look at any
neighborhood and every door. It's like, what must be so
cool for you to walk down a street and just
see like your dream is on doors everywhere. I mean,
you go anywhere and you see these things, so it's there.
And also it's interesting because last time we talked to
you on this show, you had left Ring, and now

(01:01:25):
you're back at Ring, So your mission is like probably
even more clear now to really do something with this company.

Speaker 8 (01:01:32):
Yeah, I can't. I kind of can't help myself. I
love Ring. I love what we're doing, especially with AI.

Speaker 16 (01:01:37):
Now there's so much more that we can do with
Ring and that network that you're talking about. I mean
it is sort of the Kleenex of cameras, which is
amazing for me.

Speaker 8 (01:01:47):
I mean, it really is. I pinched myself.

Speaker 16 (01:01:49):
I can't believe that I have even anything to do
with it, let alone found of it and invented it.

Speaker 8 (01:01:55):
And now we're doing stuff like dog search parties.

Speaker 16 (01:01:56):
So we're literally out there right now looking for lost
dogs and neighborhood through AI when someone loads them and
then contacting neighbors. It's it's just there's so much cool
stuff we can do with this to help neighborhoods and
really build sort of better communities.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
That's a that's a feature that is really interesting because
obviously it's going to help people. Do you think you'll
expand that feature to do other things like lost you know,
kids or you know, seniors or something like that, can you.

Speaker 16 (01:02:25):
I think you know, each each use case of it
you have to think through to make sure that the
unintended consequences are not there, because you'd be very careful.

Speaker 8 (01:02:32):
So right now we're focused on the dog Search party.

Speaker 16 (01:02:36):
We're literally launched it Monday, you know, nationwide, so like
we're just getting our feet wet getting figured out that.
But yeah, you can see at some point, I mean,
we want to use this concept for other things to
help people in neighborhoods, while always protecting people's.

Speaker 8 (01:02:51):
Privacy and their confidentiality and their data.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
So what inspired you to write the book.

Speaker 8 (01:02:58):
It's funny.

Speaker 16 (01:02:59):
I talked to people about the story, like that's so crazy,
this is so crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:03:03):
And I was telling you.

Speaker 16 (01:03:03):
That one guy who was that makes a lot of
movies in Hollywood, and he said, your story is just
the craziest story.

Speaker 8 (01:03:09):
And I was like, I he said, you should really
write it down. And that was the kind of the
moment where I was like, you.

Speaker 16 (01:03:13):
Know what, maybe we should, maybe we should document this thing.

Speaker 8 (01:03:18):
It ended up being great.

Speaker 16 (01:03:19):
I think I do think the book came out actually, Grant,
I'm really proud of it. But also it was a
very therapeutic going through all these ups and downs and
kind of getting them out and talking about them, and
even just having people close to us. Now it's close
to my family reading it and saying like, I now
know what you went through. Like no one everyone saw
the output. Everyone just saw like a billion dollars from Amazon,

(01:03:39):
and it's like that's like so great, but they didn't
see all like the stuff behind that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, we just recently watched your Shark Tank episode or
segment and it still holds up. I mean, and then
reading it in the book, I thought was great because
it's like you're seeing what was on TV and then
you read the background in the book. Tell me about
that early Shark Tank journey, because that really did that
make or break you? Do you think that really was
a kind of the early turning point for this success.

Speaker 8 (01:04:07):
Hundred percent made us.

Speaker 16 (01:04:08):
It just gave us this extra boost that every startup
kind of needs, I guess, especially a hardware startup.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
We were in the garage and we end up going
on Shark Tank.

Speaker 16 (01:04:17):
It's basically like a Super Bowl ad, you know, twelve
minutes on ABC. At the time, Shark Tank was a
massive show, massive ratings. I did want money. I actually
was not going on there just to sort of get
the ratings. I Mark Cuban, I was like certain Mark
Cuban was going to invest. He was out in like
two seconds, but I was like certain he was going
to invest. But yeah, being on the show was what

(01:04:37):
I'd say, gave us the boost to let us then
get to the next step, which then let us get
to the next step and kind of get to where
we are today.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
And spoiler alert, I mean, it's been many years, but
you didn't get a deal on that show. And it's
interesting to think what would have happened if you did
get a deal, because I think you the deal that
you ended up getting later on in life, I think
was pretty good. So and also a couple of things
I learned about you. Number one the New Jersey connection.
You know, I'm from New Jersey and you mentioned a
couple of things. I don't know if you're from New

(01:05:05):
Jersey or you said something about Jersey in the book.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
And then you're in the Palisades.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
The garage was that affected by the fires.

Speaker 8 (01:05:14):
From I grew up in Northwest Jersey in Chester.

Speaker 16 (01:05:19):
And then moved out to California like twenty years ago,
and so the garage the original place we invented ring
actually burned down in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
The fire, oh, which.

Speaker 8 (01:05:27):
Was really sad as well as most of that neighborhood.
I still I still live.

Speaker 16 (01:05:32):
In that area, and I actually came back and fought
the fire off my house and stayed in it for
a few days. And it was it was certainly, I mean,
you know, still one of the probably craziest things ever
to I mean just a just complete just you know,
disaster for everyone here and then the other fire zones.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Oh my gosh, what and we got a We've got
a couple of minutes here. What is your biggest piece
of advice for someone starting a company, because I'm sure
people are always just hitting you up for how do
I do this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
How do I do what you did? You captured that?

Speaker 16 (01:06:01):
And they want like the one answer they want like
just like you know, use Facebook marketing or.

Speaker 8 (01:06:05):
Like like some like sort of very quick sort of answer.

Speaker 16 (01:06:08):
The reality is, and this is what I think the
book sort of lays out, is that we won because
we just kept grinding, Like we just didn't stop grinding,
and I don't stop. And I think the best thing
I can tell people is, like, find something to work
on that you care about, you know, I cared about
making neighborhoods safer, and then just grind and grind and grind.
And obviously you're not guaranteed to get there, but it

(01:06:28):
seems like the harder you work, and if you work
towards something that can impact people in a good way,
you're more likely to succeed.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Do you think that's lost in our world right now?
People want you just said they want the one thing,
They want, the simple thing. I feel like I hear
that all the time. And I I had to work
to get to where I am, and you know it's
not to where you are, but it takes a lot.
And people just see that you're on the radio, you're
on TV, but they don't see all the things all
the place side to move over the past, you know,
twenty years.

Speaker 16 (01:06:54):
Yes, And I hope the book actually helps people like
kind of realize that, like just the amount of actual
work to get to these places.

Speaker 8 (01:07:01):
And I do think like things like TikTok and we've
created this like fifteen second.

Speaker 16 (01:07:06):
You know, you just keep shuffling through things and you
just you don't see what's behind it. And I even
with AI, I think grit and determination and resilience is
going to become way more important to success than even
i'll say Ivy League education or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
And you guys just came out with your first four
K cameras, didn't you.

Speaker 16 (01:07:27):
We did a whole line of four K cameras. I'm
super proud of those. They're awesome, they're shipping. I love them,
And yeah, we have we have just tons of new
stuff coming out.

Speaker 8 (01:07:36):
It's been fun to be back and inventing.

Speaker 16 (01:07:37):
In the world's largest garage, which is what I feel
like I have, and we're shipping some great products.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Well, Jamie Simonov, founder of Ring. The book is called
Ding Dong. You can get it now and it's got
everything you need to start your own successful business, just
like Jamie hopefully hopefully.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Thanks for joining me today, Jamie.

Speaker 8 (01:08:00):
Thanks rich all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I mean, if you have a doorbell you want to
hear the story, it's his And if you have like
what do we watch it on Hulu? If you have Hulu,
you can still watch the original Shark Tank that Jamie
was on eight eight eight Rich one O one eight
eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.
And I'll put a link to the book on the
website rich on Tech dot TV.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Your calls coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging
out with you, Talking Technology eight eight eight Rich one
O one eight eight eight seven four to two four
one zero one. This has been such a packed show.
I don't think I don't even think I've had a
second to breathe here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
This is episode one forty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
So if you're going to the website, you want the
show notes, anything I mentioned, You want to get Jamie's
new book Ding Dong, It's all linked up on the website.
Highly recommend if you're into business, if you're into any
of these kind of stories of you know, people doing
really interesting and cool and unique things. They'll all these
people have a certain quality to them where they just

(01:09:04):
push and push and push and push. They don't take
no for an answer, and they just continue to try
to do what they want to do their mission in
different ways. And I think, out of all the people
I've interviewed over the years, that's what I've realized about
the really successful ones is that they don't just let
someone say now that doesn't work, you know, like so
many people. I mean, it's even in Hollywood. You know,

(01:09:26):
if you want to be an actor, you want to
be whatever. Back in the day, you know, people with
ninety nine percent of the time you're hearing the words no.
And that's pretty much the way it is. Any time
you want to do something big in your life. Starts
when you're a kid. Your parents know that just keeps going.
So you just have to go through the no. Now,
I'm not saying you break laws and things like that,
but you have to figure out ways of continually finding

(01:09:51):
new ways to do and accomplish what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
No matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
If you listen to every naysayer out there, you will
never accomplish a thing. I'll tell you that right now,
bottom line. And that's just how it works. And it's
a good thing that people say no ninety nine percent
of the time because it cuts out a lot of
the nonsense. Right the people that just are doing things
for you know, different reasons that are maybe not you know,

(01:10:18):
not the best reasons. They just want to do something,
you know, for the glory or whatever it is, right,
So it's best to have most people say no because
it just filters out all the fluff. Thank you, Adam, Adam,
and for Bobo by the way, today's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Doing a great job with the music the board. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Got an email from uh from Rick in response to
the person who is having trouble with the messenger. He said, uh,
VPNs can absolutely block things, and the T mobile is
sim and Imei mismatch comes up a lot too. Call six'
one one instead of visiting a store is great. Advice,

(01:11:03):
Yeah so basically it sounds LIKE i was onto something
with THE.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
VPN i wonder if that was the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
PROBLEM a lot of times these VPNs they're, Great but
if you're ever having an issue with something you're trying
to do on your, phone turn off THE. Vpn that
really really. Helps chuck In oregon has a, Tip, chuck what's?

Speaker 11 (01:11:19):
Up?

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Hey SO i heard the lady talking about having all
these spam calls and ringing her phone all the, time
and What i've been doing for at least the last
ten years on my. Phone i've got an, iPhone but
this will work on any phone where you can wrote
a ringtone. On i've got a silence ringtone and that's
my default. Ringtone so anyone that's calling me THAT i

(01:11:43):
don't know who this person, IS i never hear.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
The call, well, wait so you have the silent ringtone for,
everyone or just people that are not in your address.

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
Book for people THAT i don't. Know, yeah, Okay, GOD
i create ringtones for people you. Know So i've got
unique ringtones for other people that aren't as special for
me to create a ringtone for, THEM i just use
one of the defaults on. It BUT i set a
ring tone for everybody THAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Know oh, wow it's calling. Me that's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
SMARTLY i only do that for my, wife BUT i you,
know it's just to, like well signify a different.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
WAY i know who's calling, me you, know because my
phone's in my pocket all the, time AND i know
whether or NOT i need to answer, it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
All, Right so silent ring tone and do that for
the unknown. Callers have you ever missed an important call
because of this system or?

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Nope, Okay and if it's an important, call they'll leave a.
Message i'll get back to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
YEAH i, mean that's the, thing like we forget that
it used to be you weren't able to get into
touch with someone instantly twenty four to. Seven, now if
you text someone and they don't text you, back or
they don't call you, back it's, like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
It you must. Something you must be in a ditch
somewhere right like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
It people are, busy people are doing, things and so
you don't always have to be available twenty four to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Seven but it's it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
WILD i find myself falling into that where it's, like,
okay If i'm not answering the phone in the first,
ring it's, like you, know what's what are they going to?
Think but that's a good. One, so or how do
you make the ring? Tones by the, way what do you?

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
USE i think WHEN i created, THESE i Used, audacity,
okay which again is a free program to. Download, yeah
AND i WOULD i would just take clips of songs
for you, know the the actual vocal ring, tones and
just clip a span of silence for my silent ring.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Tone, Okay, Yeah audacity is indeed. Free, actually this is
thanks for the, Call, chuck appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
It this is actually a great. TIP i forgot about.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
This it is built in the ability to make a
ring tone is now built into the. iPhone so if
you are on any sort of, audio let me go
to my files app and see IF i have like
AN mp three or. Something of COURSE i, don't but,
basically let's see, Here, OKAY i do so if you're
on any sort of audio file on your, phone, okay

(01:14:04):
all you have to do is tap the share the
little share, icon and there will be an option there
that says save as. Ringtone and so, Here i've got
something here And i'm pressing share and if you scroll,
down let's see where is. It, well it's not showing up,
there but it is, there and it's it's it is
an option to do. That so maybe it has to

(01:14:26):
be a. Wavefile let me try this. One let's see. Here, Okay,
well for some, reason While i'm on the, radio it's
not showing, up but it's definitely in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
There it's in iOS twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Six they definitely made the ability to just share out
as a. RINGTONE i THINK i mentioned it my, newsletter
so you can search for the old newsletters look up.
Ringtone but, yeah if you're not and by the, way
if you're not subscribed to the newsletter rich on tech dot,
tv sign up for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
That it's really it's Like i've started.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Doing two now a, week because one is just all
my tech thoughts and the second is all your. Emails
i'm just formatting them in a way WHERE i send
them out like almost like a deer abby AND i
put them in the email and people are loving it
because it's like all these little things that people ask.
About and let me just see IF i can find
this real. Quick, okay here it, is, Yeah september twentieth.

(01:15:14):
Newsletter so ring. Tone, yeah so you can turn any
supported audio file into a ring tone from the files.
App just open the, file hit share and select uses ring.
Tone no extra, Software so there you. Go it's kind of.
Fun let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Here another caller about these, Callers eduardo And. Tampa you're
on With.

Speaker 17 (01:15:36):
Rich, yeah thank you for taking my. Call i'm glad
you guys are getting their rain now instead of WHEN
i come down over there in a few weeks for a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Pastime oh, Great, yeah it's gonna be much nicer and
once this thing blows.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Over but my.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Question, IS.

Speaker 17 (01:15:55):
I don't know if you can help me with. This
it is something wrong with my. Settings WHEN i call,
SOMEBODY i think i'm quote there's something they're not recognizing a.
CALL i don't know if there's something in settings to
make sure that WHEN i call somebody that, okay they
know it's coming From because my last four numbers ARE
pickt eight, eleven so or my name is going to

(01:16:16):
show up on? THERE i don't, know is there something
maybe that's wrong in my?

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Settings, well there's two. Things are you on an iPhone Or?
Android it's A se by the, way, okay it's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
An iPhone Se. Okay SO i mean here's the. Deal
so phones in, GENERAL i, mean unless you've blocked your,
number your number is going to show.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Now you know you can press star sixty, seven BUT
i believe that is a one time, thing, Right like
if you Did star six seven and then the phone,
number it would just block that. Phone you, know your
your CALLER id for that one. Time but you may
have a. Setting are you ON T MOBILE at AND
T verizon something?

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Else?

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Mobile, Okay so in your, settings there is a setting
FOR T. Mobile if you go into your and then
apps and then phone and you scroll to where it
says show my CALLER. Id, Now i've got two numbers
on my. Phone one IS T, mobile one Is. Verizon
i'm only seeing this option FOR T. Mobile so you

(01:17:16):
may see this. Option and if you tap your phone
number there where it says show my CALLER, id that
may be. Toggled, Off i'm trying to see it's waiting
for mine to kind of come up, here but that
you may want to CALL T mobile and just, say,
hey is my CALLER id? Blocked and they can figure
out on the maybe on the network level if it's.

(01:17:37):
Blocked but if you can also do this on your,
phone you can just look in that. Setting it looks
like it's just popping up on the. iPhone so again
It's Settings Apps, phone and then scroll down where it
says show my CALLER. Id, now keep in, mind that's
only going to show up if you have if your
carrier supports that, option and not every carrier, does because

(01:17:58):
LIKE i, Said i've, got for, eye A T mobile
on this. Phone verizon is not showing that. OPTION T mobile,
is and so you can go in there and show.
That the other thing is what shows up when you
call someone on an, iPhone which is called a contact.
Poster and that's the one where it just shows like
your little picture and things like. That and if you
want to change the way that, looks go into. Contacts

(01:18:21):
open up The contacts. App up at the top it
says my card and so if you look at your
card you'll see the picture that is sent to other
iPhone users and if you tap at the, top it
says shared name and photo contacts. Only so you can
customize what. This they call it the contact. Poster what
that looks like and you can customize. That and if

(01:18:43):
you scroll, down you can choose your, name your first,
name last, name and then you can say it says
share automatically and you can choose always ask or contacts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Only they're not going to share this with. Strangers it's
just people that are. Contacts good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Question Edward os for the call And chuck as. Well
eighty eight Eight rich ONE o one eighty eight seven
four to two four one zero. One coming up this,
hour uh vicant Dar Nyu stern professor is going to
talk about his new book Called thinking With, machines and it's
all about how we can stay in control in OUR ai.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
World this Is rich On. Tech share your on With.

Speaker 14 (01:19:27):
Rich, Hi, rich how are?

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
You i'm doing fantastic things for, Asking.

Speaker 15 (01:19:32):
SO i call myself trying to do this. Myself BUT
i try to clean up my system off A Microsoft pro.
Computer AND i tried to clean up my system AND
i THINK i might have deleted SOMETHING i shouldn't.

Speaker 13 (01:19:45):
Have.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Uh, oh what were you?

Speaker 15 (01:19:47):
DOING i had way too much stuff on my computer
and it was causing you, know the operation to be,
defective like it wouldn't function properly BECAUSE i also have Like,
Adobe Poltish shop and everything like. That SO i transferred
a lot of things to like external hard, drive and

(01:20:08):
THEN i THOUGHT i was deleting STUFF i didn't, need
LIKE c plus plus and stuff like. That NOW i
get an air message that, says the code execution cannot
proceed because become one hundred dot d L l was not.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Found, okay and that's what you're. Getting that's the message
that you're. Getting that's for, that that's for That VISUAL
c plus plus package that you, Deleted. Sherry so you've
got to try to repair this and bring it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Back so. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Uh without being an expert in this, stuff it's going
to be tricky because it sounds like you have to
reinstall that. Package And I'M i guess you can download
it maybe from the. Website can you download This VISUAL
c plus?

Speaker 11 (01:20:59):
PLUS i believe, So but here's the.

Speaker 15 (01:21:02):
DILEMMA i am now On windows, eleven. OKAY i think
THAT c plus plus package was related To windows. Ten,
okay AND i did download, it AND i said it was.
Successful but now That i'm on, eleven this message still pops,
up still pops.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Up, okay well a couple of. THINGS i, mean it
seems like it seems like it's related to that message
from What i'm seeing. Online. Uh so that's number, one
so we've got to figure that. Out number. Two, uh
there's an app Called Sea. Cleaner have you heard of?

Speaker 11 (01:21:33):
That oh, NO i.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Haven't, okay so that might, help you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Know there's some debate around this, app whether it's, good
whether it's, bad but it might be worth. Trying i'm
not usually a fan of, these you, know these apps
that just like you, know scan your system and do
all the checks and things like. That but this this
may help and you can see if it, fit you,
know comes up with any error that it can. Fix
it sounds like, basically this there's a program that's trying to,

(01:21:59):
run that's trying to find something on your, system and
it's not finding that file and that's why you're getting
that error. Message so the solution is either completely uninstall
that program or to install the program again and get
it to not you, know have that. Error SO i
would say try This Sea. Cleaner see if that cleans it.
Up the other two Programs in the, future when you
want to clean up your, computer there's a couple ways

(01:22:20):
to do that that don't mess up. Everything Number, One
microsoft makes a program Called MICROSOFT Pc, manager and you're
gonna want to make sure you go to the right,
link Because i'm sure if you search that On, google
you're gonna get a bunch of various. Links but pcmanager
Dot microsoft dot. Com so try running that on your

(01:22:41):
system first before you do anything and see if that
fixes the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Error that's WHAT i would do number.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
One, okay if that doesn't, work THEN i would try
the Other Sea cleaner. Thing the other app there is
there's an app CALLED pc Health check. App you can
install that and you can use that to kind of
see if.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
There's any problems with your.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Computer and that's also A microsoft, app so you can download.
That SO i would start with THE Pc, manager THEN
i go TO pc Health, check and then if that doesn't,
work maybe download The Sea cleaner and see if that
fixes it. Up Otherwise i'd have to do a little
bit more research on this to see how to fix
this little error and see if you. CAN i, mean

(01:23:23):
you could do a restore if you want to try
to go back to your old. System but that's kind
of tricky with with what we're talking about, here BUT
i think those two programs are probably going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Your best bet for getting this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Resolved and, yeah, Stop Cheryl, sherry you gotta, stop you,
know poking around and just deleting random stuff on your.
COMPUTER i know it's, tempting believe, me And i've done it,
before So i'm guilty of. It but as soon AS
i delet, Something i'm, like, OH i THINK i needed,
that SO i get.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
It but use these apps to kind of free up
the storage on your. Computer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Windows you, know at the very end of the, Day
by the, way if you, want if this is just
completely bugging, YOU i, mean obviously you can bring it
to a.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Professional and they can probably figure this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Out that's going to cost you, Money but at the
end of the, day there is a way to do
a sort of a clean install Of windows on your.
Computer and so there's, something let's SEE i think it's
Called Repair windows. Eleven let's see IF i can find. This,
yeah you can go Into Windows. Update they've got a

(01:24:26):
recovery tool which will help you repair. Things so maybe
try that as. Well so let me just. See i'm
trying to IF i go into My Windows update, here
check for Updates Windows update, settings and if you go
in here there are some let's see advanced. Options i'm
trying to see where to do. This there is a
way on your system to kind of reset the whole

(01:24:50):
thing where you can like Reinstall windows. Completely there it
is reset THIS. Pc, okay so there's. Okay there's another
THING i want you to. Do if you type in
reset in your status and your taskbar up at the
top or at the, bottom and then just type in
reset and you'll see system. Recovery and there's one thing
that says fixed problems without resetting YOUR. Pc it says

(01:25:13):
try resolving issues by running a. Troubleshooter SO i would
do that as. Well, now if you can't do, that
there is a way to reset THIS pc which will
keep or remove your personal. Files SO i would do
the option to keep your personal, files BUT i would
also have them backed. Up eight eight eight seven four
to two four one zero.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
One this is rich On TECH.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Sai stuff is getting wild to talk about some of
that vacant Dar Nyu Stern professor AND ai pioneer is
here to talk about his new, Book thinking With machines
and how we can stay in control in a machine
Driven worldscant thanks so much for joining.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Me nice to be.

Speaker 9 (01:26:00):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Rich so you've been RESEARCHING ai for many years. Now
what do you think feels different about what's happening in
the world at this?

Speaker 18 (01:26:09):
Point several things feel, Different, rich BUT i think you,
know if you look at the world PRE, gpt you,
know chatchept and post CHAT, SEPT i think the biggest
breakthrough of MODERN ai is that we finally got computers
to understand common.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
Sense that had been like a big barrier TO. Ai you,
know we used to distinguish between expertise and common, sense
and we said common sense is just too. Hard let's
focus on. Expertise and that's WHAT ai was focused on
for its you, know the first sixty years of its.
Life and the big breakthrough was when we GOT chatwept
and it seems to actually understand or we're telling, it you,

(01:26:51):
know we tell it, something it comes. BACK i said, no, no,
NO i want something, different and it knows what we.
Want that's common. Sense we didn't have, that and that's
a game. Changer how do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
You explain WHAT ai is because people often, ask, like
what IS? AI i, mean we've had you, know to
me LIKE i always say and kind of like what
you're talking about is like to, me for the for
the like for the person that's using. It it's like
we can finally talk to our computers the way that
we talk to other people and they understand what we're.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Saying but how do you DEFINE?

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Ai you, know this might seem really, weird but there
is no accepted definition OF. Ai people have proposed lots of.
Things they're, Interesting so people tend to describe it in
terms of its. Characteristics, right that something is intelligent if it,
understands if it, learns if it, plans if it, reasons

(01:27:39):
if it. Thinks, Right so we really describe intelligence in
terms of these other words and, language and that's really
the best we can. Do some other people would, say,
well it's. Different it has to do with consciousness and
healing and you, know things like. That so there's lots
of ways to look, around you, know to think ABOUT.
Ai but, essentially you, know what most people regarded as

(01:28:01):
is it's something like. Us you, know where intelligent if
you can create machines that are like, us in our,
image then we'll accept the. Intelligent and of course this
has been a philosophical question for a long. Time how
do you really tell that the machine is? Intelligent then
there's a famous touring. Test it, says if you can't
tell the, difference it's. Intelligent so IF i put a

(01:28:21):
machine on a human AND i can't tell the difference
Who i'm talking, to then it must be. INTELLIGENT i,
mean it's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
WILD i MEAN i use CHAT gbt on a daily,
basis and it's just the stuff that it comes up
with and the way that it talks back to you
is just it's truly like you almost feel like it
is a person behind, it but it's. Not and you
have to like remind yourself that in your book you
talk about how machines could govern. Us what does that
mean in practical?

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Terms, well you, know in practical, terms it means that
the machine becomes the gatekeeper to. Everything you, know have
you noticed like how difficult it is sometimes to get
to a human these? Days, yes for.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Everything the fact that we're talking is a, MIRACLE i.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Know so the fact that it's getting hard to get
to a human tells you, something right that the machine
has become sort of the interface you apply for a,
job a machine looks at YOUR, cv you, know your,
application it decides whether you're going to go to the next.
Step and guess what the next step is an, interview
and that could be by a machine as. Well like
machines are interviewing people for all kinds of jobs like,
customers support roles and things like, that which are well.

(01:29:22):
Defined so the machine is becoming the gatekeeper for. Us.
Right it's, like how messed up is?

Speaker 10 (01:29:29):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Right where we're actually talking to a machine to get
past it to get a job or to you, know
get a government service or. Whatever, right it's becoming harder
and harder to talk to a human because guess, what
machines are becoming good at. It they don't get, exhausted
they don't, complain they don't go on. Strike, Right so
the writing is on the, wall right that we're going
to be increasingly dealing with. Machines so it's really important

(01:29:53):
to ask ourselves this question about whether we will be
still governing them or whether they'll be governing us and,
deciding you, know our lives how we live.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Them SO i, mean and that's, Fine like if you're
calling an. Airline you have to get past the. Machine, okay,
fine it's it's a little bit of an, annoyance but
it doesn't like change. Things it doesn't really ruin your.
Life but what about like the risk to everyday consumers
as these ais gain more?

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Power, well you, KNOW i mean you're segueing to like
a slightly different, subject that is risks to. Consumers, well
what's happening is that the machine just knows a lot about, us,
Right it's observing our points of interaction with all these,
systems and it's learning about. Us and what we don't
realize is that in some ways it knows us better

(01:30:37):
than we know. Ourselves and what happens there is there's you,
know we're sort of in this dangerous territory now where
we can give you, know as an operator of AN
ai can give the machine a goal like get close
to your, user and you, know the computer might decide

(01:30:58):
that the best way to do it is through deception
and the right and those are the kinds of risks
that we face going. Forward that the machine gets so
good at getting into a head and doing what we,
want knows what's, up you, know what our triggers, are
what are buttons are that's able to press, them and
so those are the everyday risks to all of.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Us that's.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Wild AND i just as you were giving me, THAT
i just Asked chatt to tell me about. Myself and
at first it just said like WHO i was and
all this, stuff and THEN i, said, well more about
me as a, human and it just came up with
a whole essay about you, know my values and my
core and you know WHAT i HOW i lead my.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Life and you're, right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
You're you're someone who leads with, Kindness you thank, people
you take pride in being a, steady trustworthy. Voice it's
just it's wild That i'm even asking a computer to
tell me about. ME i, mean isn't that just just
COMPLETELY i don't, know it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Weird, yeah, yeah, yeah who to funk? It? RIGHT i
mean even even like five years, ago funk it? NOW i, mean,
Look i've been that day for like fifty. Years. Right
if people have told me ten years ago we'd be
talking to a machine In, English i'd tell them they
were smoking. Something. Yeah so this is this is how
fast it's it's, happened and how fast it's, moving which
is WHAT i find somewhat, alarming. RIGHT i, MEAN ai

(01:32:17):
to me is like the history's biggest double ed. Sword.
Right this is the first machine that humans have created
without a, purpose and it can do amazing, things but
it is a double ed.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Sword SO i guess along that question of you, know
we've we've heard about regulations and you, know rules and stuff,
like do you think that society needs some regulations or
frameworks to KEEP ai in?

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Check or, like who comes up with?

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
THAT i know the companies would love to just do
their own, thing but do we need government to step?

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
In do we need this kind of?

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
STUFF i think? So AND i say that with you,
know some some some degree of, hesitation Because i'm not
big on regulation for its own. Sake you, know it,
leads it often has unintended, consequences so it's not SOMETHING
i would suggest. Likely but the risks here are so
high that to not do anything and not to ask

(01:33:12):
ourselves questions about how we regulate this, LEAST i think
it's just plain. Irresponsible and WHAT i mean by, regulation
by the, way is three. Things one, is should there
be any constraints ON ai that we should put that
that certain things are just outside the domain OF? Ai,
right that you can't have a robot come and arrest
you at home for non payment of? Taxes? Right this

(01:33:32):
should be you, know like do we want?

Speaker 5 (01:33:35):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
Right so we need to ask ourselves questions like around
restrictions we place ON. Ai should there be certain obligations
of THE? Ai you, know just like in certain human
professions there are obligations someone in finances produciary, responsibility someone
in healthcare has or duty or care. Right so we
need to like start thinking about that when it comes TO,
ai because it's straying into our personal, lives into our mental, lives,

(01:33:58):
Right so should there be an? Extra should there be an?
Obligation and, last but not, least is what rights do
we want to ascribe to? It? Right as it becomes
smarter and, agentic, right and we give it agency to
act on our? Behalf, right what kinds of rights will
it have you know going? Forward, well you, know and
what sort of precedents do we have for thinking about?

(01:34:19):
It you? Know it should be a, corporation you, know
is a corporation and interesting precedent to think about how
we should think ABOUT? AI i, Think so there's there's you,
know there's lots of interesting precedents that we have that
be good to apply and thinking ABOUT, ai.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
AND i know we got to, run But i'm just
curious when we GET ai into a humanoid, robot what
what's your take on? That that's when it gets really
interesting to.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
ME i, mean it gets super, interesting, right because if
you think about WHAT ai has been doing so, far
is it's been it's been learning from, language, Right it's
been learning from, language which is the collective expression of
humanity on The. Internet, Right so everything's been. Condensed languages
learned from, That but humans learn based on a lot more.
Information we learn through what interactions with the real. World

(01:35:02):
and now that THE ai has started interacting with the real,
world it's going to start learning about the real world
and how to interact with. It and that's, wild.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Like what it feels like to step into quicksand or
what it feels like to feel a leaf on a.
Tree like it starts to collect all this knowledge that's
not just written out on The internet somewhere that it's
scraped exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Right as the sensors get, sophisticated it'll know what it
feels like, to you, know feel the breeze on its.
Face oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Wow, okay if we're gonna leave it, there this is
just wild with the future. Brings the book is Called
thinking With Machines viscant DAR Nyu stern professor AND ai,
pioneer thanks so much for joining me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Today really enjoyed our.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Conversation thank, you Rich AND i should Say i've written
the book for, everyone SO i hope you enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
It, Yeah thinking With machines check it out. Again i'll
put the link on my. Website rich On tech DOT.
Tv all, right coming, up we are going to open
up the. Feedback let's see do we Have, YEAH i
think we GOT i think we got a bunch this,
week like more THAN i Think i've ever gotten in my.
Life you are listening to rich On. Tech welcome back

(01:36:18):
to rich On. Tech we're gonna get through a couple
stories before we attempt the feedback. Today first, Off uber
And lyft both expanded their women driver. Options so if
you are a female and you feel more comfortable having
a female, driver you can set this in your. Preferences
this is For, uber it's Called Women. Preferences they've expanded

(01:36:40):
it to twenty six more. Cities and, basically when you're
getting a, ride it'll say this has a woman, driver
and then in lift it's called women Plus. Connect SO
i put the information on My instagram at Rich On.
Tech it's kind of a nice thing if you like
to you, know the security of a female driver and
you're a. Female speaking of, Cars, waimo these are all car. Related,

(01:37:03):
Actually weaimo is now starting freeway freeway rides In Los,
angeles rolling out support for its driverless rides In Los,
angeles oh And San francisco And.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Phoenix.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Wow so if you are A weaimo, rider these are autonomous,
cars no. Driver when you're in the, app you can
select to, say, HEY i want to take these freeway.
Trips weimo says they've tested them with millions of freeway
miles with their employees and guests to validate all of
their technology before opening it to the. Public and, yes

(01:37:35):
they've taken on the challenges like higher speeds and, merging
and they've built THEIR ai to do all that. Stuff
so that's an interesting. ONE i Guess i'll have to
try that at some. Point and, finally if you have A,
volkswagon you've got a bunch of new. Features number, one
you're going to Get Tesla supercharger access Starting november.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Eighteenth you will need an.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Adapter they sell it for two hundred dollars online or through,
dealers and you can get a one hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Rebate if you've got the.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Original owners of model year twenty twenty FIVE id four
AND id, buzz get a one hundred dollars rebate on the.
Adapter come standard with a twenty twenty Six VOLKSWAGEN, evs
and then if you have one of these, evs you
got An Apple watch or ware, os you can out
download The volkswagen app and you can lock and unlock your,
car honk and flash your, horn check vehicle status and

(01:38:28):
lock status right from your, wrist and you can do
a whole bunch of other. Things, Anyway, basically there's now
support for the watches and The Tesla Supercharger. Network all,
right let's open up the. Feedbag here bev rights. In, Hey,
RICH i love your segment On. JAPAN i loved it
so MUCH i went last year. TWICE i recently purchased
an iPhone seventeen. PRO i wanted to download helpful. Apps

(01:38:48):
which pre scanner do you? Recommend is there a free
editor for PDFs where it will allow me to add TEXT.
BEV i feel like you're setting me up. Here this
was a brand new app they added to the. iPhone
it's Called. Preview you can use it to scan dot,
documents fill out, PDFs add text or, signatures no need
to download anything.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Else and, yes you KNOW i Love.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Japan want to bring the kids, There jim writes In
WHEN i turn on My High SENSE tv With, ROKU
i was greeted with a new prompt asking me to
enable automatic content. RECOGNITION i opted. Out, interestingly the default
was to accept, it AND i didn't see the same
prompt on my Separate roku.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Stick, yeah good, Call.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Jim that is for automatic content. Recognition that means that
it scans everything that comes across that, screen no matter
which input it comes, from, antenna, streaming, Whatever it just
scans it and it recognizes what you're, watching so it
can help recommend content and personalize your. ADS i would,
say if you care about, privacy definitely. Disagree and if

(01:39:48):
you have A ROKU, tv go To Settings, Privacy SMART Tv,
experience toggle all that. Off you have any SMART, tv
toggle OFF. Acr there are ways of finding how to do.
That i'll link it up on the, show Notes, bob
after listening to the show about chargers and power, BRICKS
i wanted to share two close. Calls the neighbors house
caught fire from a charger while they were. Away it

(01:40:09):
took nearly a year to clean up and, repair and
just this week my son found a swollen power bank
that could have been dangerous if it wasn't handled. Properly
the hazardous waste facility said they see that. OFTEN i
only plug in chargers When i'm home and can keep
an eye on. Them good, Reminder, Bob, yes this stuff is,
Electronic tony writes in a listener asked about that catchy

(01:40:29):
tune with the hit line them, up hit them up
when you're hit them when you're, up hit them when you're.
Down tony thinks it might be pop music By Robin.
Scott chris From modesto, SAYS i think the elevator song
you mentioned on the last broadcast Was Disco lady By
Johnny taylor nineteen seventy. SIX i don't know if either
of those are, true but thanks for the. SUGGESTIONS jb,

(01:40:51):
SAYS i found it the hard way that not having
enough memory can wear out your computer's. Drive MY pc
has two solid state. Drives one started to fail Because
windows was using it as an extra. MEMORY i only
had eight gigs OF ram with too many browser tabs.
Open AFTER i upgraded to sixteen gigs OF, ram the problem.
Disappeared my tip add more. Memory that'll keep YOUR ssd

(01:41:11):
healthy and your computer running. Faster, yes always get the
most memory you, can the MOST.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Ram.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
ABSOLUTELY i would say sixteen to thirty two thirty two
minimum with this point on your desktop or your.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Laptop, Jonathan i'm loving your podcast a.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Newsletter when you talk about a website with a homophone
or a product or, service could you spell it last
week when you mentioned the guests from, BOARD i didn't
know if it was Bored board or bor. Ed if
you spelled it at the first, mention it would help
me picture the. Name hope this makes, Sense, Yes, JONATHAN
J O N A T H A. N i will
definitely do that in the. Future let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Here we got one more.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Minute richard From Wales rights in Far off a few weeks.
AGO i heard you talking about who empties the dishwasher
in our. House we don't have. To we have two of.
Them we take dishes from the clean, one we turn
them to the empty. One when the empty one is,
full we run it and swap a little sign between
them to show which is. Clean we've used the system
for over seven. Years it means les cupboard space and

(01:42:11):
plenty of capacity when hosting. PARTIES i love. THAT i
just need a bigger kitchen to add another titchwa. Washer
And rick writes In Dear, RICH i love Your Dear
abby approach to answering listener.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Questions you're.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
RIGHT i can't tell you how many Times i've heard
a question that perks my ears. Up we could never
get too many how to emails from. You thank, you Rich. Rick,
YES i started that new this, week My Dear abby
style newsletter with all THESE i can't get to all
the feedback on the, show SO i put them in the,
newsletter the secondary.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
One so sign up rich on tech dot. Tv that's
going to do it for this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
Episode links at the, website me on social media at
rich on. Tech next week we're going to talk deals
With Nathan, burrow senior deals editor At, wirecutter and we're
gonna have the co founder Of doctronic on to explain
HOW ai is helping patients get a more accurate medical.
Insights thank you so much for. LISTENING i know there

(01:43:04):
are so many ways you can spend your. TIME i
really do appreciate you spending it right here with. ME
i hope you understand how much FUN i have doing this.
SHOW i really do enjoy. This one, reminder, though please
do not text and. Drive don't drive, distracted put down the.
Phone it is for the safety of. Everyone thank, You
thanks everyone who makes this show. Possible we Had adam

(01:43:26):
on the board. Today kim on the. Phones my name Is.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
RICHDIMIRO i will talk to you real. Soon

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