First Color Kindle, New iPad Mini & Tracking Cats

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Amazon has its first Kindle with a color screen, a
new iPad many from Apple, but they didn't improve one
key feature, and how to enable Android's new theft detection feature.
Plus your tech questions answered. What's going on. I'm Rich
Demiro and this is Rich on Tech. This is the
show where I talk about the tech stuff I think

(00:22):
you should know about. It's also the place where I
answer your questions about technology. I believe the tech should
be interesting, useful and fun. Let's open up those phone
lines at triple A Rich one oh one. That's eight
eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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All right, we got some great guests this week. We're
gonna talk to swan dot COM's CEO, Corey Clipston. He's
gonna talk about bitcoin and the current state of the
cryptocurrency market. I went to the Bitcoin Day this week,
and uh, it's quite interesting to see all the bitcoin
getting together. They are really into this stuff and it's

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kind of exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
So we'll talk to Corey.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Then later in the show, we've got Consumer Reports Suki
Golatti to talk permission Slip. This is their tool to
help you reduce your digital footprint and protect your online privacy.
Suki will join us a little bit later in the show. Well,
it is fall, it is spooky time, it's pumpkin patch time.
Went to the pumpkin patch with the kids last night,

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had a nice time. It was a little emptier than
previous years. But it's one of those traditions that I
grew up on the East Coast, always going to the
pumpkin patch and taken. We did a lot of haunted
hay rides there. But my kids California, it's a little
bit different because sometimes you go to the pumpkin patch
and it's like eighty degrees. Thankfully, last night it was not.
That was fun always, you know, it's just tradition. Gotta

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do the tradition. On Instagram, by the way, I was
just posting something and I don't know if you noticed this,
but when you go into your stories, when you look
at the top, there's like little bats that fly around
on the lettering.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
So I was like, what is that? What is that?
What is that?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And so if you look at that, it's actually Halloween writing.
So if you go to my Instagram at rich On
Tech you can see I used it.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's a classic kind of like Halloween writing, and you
have to scroll all the way to the left. Let's
see what it's called. Let's see here, so go here create,
let's see. Oh you got to post a picture first. Well,
I'm glad I'm doing this on live radio. Very very exciting.
All right, tap that. Oh it's just called Halloween writing.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's funny too whenever I go to these events, I've
been testing phones for so long. To me, it's all
about when I look back in my pictures and my
Google Photos, It's all about the progression of the cameras.
Like I've been taking pictures of my kids at the
same pumpkin patch for ten years, and it's like back
in the day, the pictures were just so bad.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
They didn't look bad back then.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Now they look bad, and so I see that progression
of Like last night, I was using the new iPhone
sixteen pro and it's like, oh, wow, these look pretty good.
A little tip by the way, I was organizing. I'm
always organizing my Google Photos collection.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Google Photos is my preferred way to store my photos.
Always looking for ways to kind of like delete stuff
out of there that I don't need anymore.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
And I found a pretty good search.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Just search for the word blurry, and it'll bring up
all the pictures that hurt, like nonsense, blurry pictures that
you've taken over the years, and you could just go
through and delete a bunch of those. It also brings
up blurry videos, and that's a good way to just
kind of prune. I love pruning. That's like in some
people might prune their plants outside. No, I'm just pruning
like my Google photos collection all day every day. I

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thought this was interesting. Today I was filling up my
water bottle from the fridge and I noticed that the filter,
which seems to go very fast, needed a replacement. And
you know, I've got these Amazon Echoes around the house.
I've been telling you about how I replaced a bunch
of my Sono speakers, which I'm still enjoying, by the way.
I love the voice control on those things. But every

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once in a while, the Amazon Echo will have like
a green light on it and I'm like, all right,
you got me, like, Alexa, what do you thinking?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
And that's what I say to it.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
And it's like, I've got a notification you seem to
be running out of your whatever that you ordered six
months ago, and it's been pretty spot on with some
of the things. And I said, you know what, actually
you can help me right now. Can you reorder my
water filter for the fridge? And sure enough, she brought
up the old one that I've ordered over the past
couple of years and said, here it is. It's forty dollars.
Would you like me to place the order for you?

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And I said sure. Well, first she said I'll put
it in the car, and I said, well, actually, you
can go ahead and order that, and so she just
went ahead and said, okay, I have placed the order,
which I thought was incredible. I mean, I get it.
They put all these Alexas, these echo speakers in people's homes,
hoping that they would one day order items from them.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm not sure how many.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
People actually do that, but I did. And it's kind
of fun, kind of easy because it knows what you've
ordered in the past, so it just defaults to that.
And so I thought of a cruel prank, which do
not do this. But what if you were at someone's
house and you just ordered stuff off their echo. I mean,
are these things like linked to their actual voice. I'm
not sure they are. Do not do this, Please, do

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not say, rich On Tech told you to do this,
but I'm just you know, my mind goes to, like
all the different ways that this could be used nefariously,
and that's one of them. I mean, it's like, these
things are everywhere anyway, don't do that. You can always
cancel the order, but I mean, it's just kind of
a weird prank to play on your friends. Something else
I tried this week, I flew back to New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Last week's show was from New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
You know, I do these shows live, so I love
being live no matter where I am. But I'm back
here in Los Angeles today. But I did try something new.
I'm always trying something. Whatever is available, I will try
it because I love technology. I'm just going to see
how this stuff works. So TSA pre check they have
this thing called touchless ID. While you're checking in, it's like, hey,
do you want to go touchless? I'm like, all right,

(05:47):
let me try it. I've tried the digital ID, I've
tried just about everything they offer, but I was like,
let me try touchless. So basically, you use your face
for recognition at the TSA pre check line instead of
your ID. And so I said, all right, let's try it.
So I get to the pre check and there's two
separate lines. One is the touchless ID which uses your
face and your boarding pass has like a green outline

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around it to like signify that you've opted into this.
Because you can't do it at the airport, you have
to do it at check in. So the line was
like significantly shorter than the regular pre check line, which
is significantly shorter than the regular security line. And so
I get up to the front and of course I'm
like waiting for the person to be like, we don't
do that, but they said, okay, stand there, take your picture.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
You take a picture.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You't have to take anything out, you don't have to
show anything, and somehow it scans your face. Next thing,
you know, okay, you can go checks against your boarding pass,
which is pretty impressive. So I was wondering how this worked, right,
because where do they get my picture from. I didn't
submit a picture to anyone. I'll tell you about that
in a second. But then when on the way back,
I saw that you can do a self bag tag

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with just your face, and so I was like, all right, well,
let me take this to the next level.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Let me check in my bags without showing anything.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
You know, usually when you check in your bag, unless
you're going like first class, you know you have a person.
But usually if you're just going the regular class like
everyone else like I am, typically you just go up
to a little machine. You type in your number or
you scan your barcode, and it spits out the bag
tag and bag. Some places I've seen were actually tag
it yourself, Like when I was coming back from Hawaii,

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I actually literally put the bag tag on my bag,
like I am an airline employee now, like I'm trained
to do this stuff, and you know, my bag made it.
But you know, sometimes with the airline, usually the airline
I fly typically has someone that does it for you. Anyway,
I stand in front of this little machine, takes a
picture of my face and it says okay, and it
spits out the bagtag. Someone comes from behind the scenes

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and they put the thing on my bag and that's it.
Didn't have to show my ID to verify it's me
because they already did.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
So.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I asked the person, I said, hey, where are you
getting my picture from for all this technology? And they said, oh,
it's from your passport, so yeah, sure enough. I looked
up a little bit more information. TSA pre check touchless
identity solution is being test. It's totally optional, it's opt
in if you want to do it. It compares your
live facial images to pre existing government photo IDs, So

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guessing that's your passport most of the time, unless you've
submitted something else, maybe during pre check. I guess you
did have to submit a picture. It's currently being tested
at some airports with Delta and United. You can opt
in during your mobile check in and they collect data
including your live photo, your passport number, and your known
traveler numbers. They say the information is anonymized, encrypted and

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deleted within one hundred and eighty days. And of course
this is all aiming to enhance security and streamline the
verification process. So I don't know, I mean, it's just
these little things that are happening in our world that
are just progressing.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
There's a lot of pros and cons with all this
facial technology, facial recognition, but the reality is they've got it.
If you've been uploading your photos to Facebook, to Instagram,
maybe even Twitter, all this stuff is being scanned for
AI and it's being sliced and diced in a million
different ways. Remember Facebook was tagging people in photos years ago.

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I mean we're talking probably a decade ago. All of
a sudden you'd get a thing that said, hey, you
showed up in someone's picture, and they'd be like, I
didn't tag you in that. It was just automatically applying
the tag. So the information's out there. I think moving forward,
what's really important is how is this information used. Are
the organizations thinking about the privacy of this information? And

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of course, when you share any information, always be thinking
about how private it is, what the implications are of
sharing that information, and what could go wrong if that
information gets out If my photo that I took at
the TSA pre check, you know, gets out there in
the world. Not the end of the world. I mean,
people already know what I look like. It's really just

(09:50):
a general awareness I think you should have about how
you're sharing your information and where I would actually argue
that sharing your information for one of those like sweepstakes,
when you go to like a football game or something.
You know, it's like when this new car and you
fill out this whole form with like all of your
information and all of your identifying information and your your

(10:10):
just everything you know how many kids live in your house,
your household information. I feel like that is actually going
into a bigger database that will be used against you
than my photo at the TSA pre check.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
But again, think about this stuff and be aware of
this stuff. All right.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Coming up on the show, we're going to talk a
lot of stuff. We've got many many things coming up.
I'm going to talk about the new color Kindle. We've
got that. Apple also came out with a new iPad Mini,
so we've got that. You've got the website that's rich
on Tech dot TV. So if you want to go
there get in touch with me, you can do that
by hitting contact. You can get show notes there by

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Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
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Speaker 2 (11:07):
One oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to
two four one zero one. The email.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
If you want to get in touch with me that way,
go to the website rich on Tech dot TV hit
contact and we got an email from Steve about the
Alexa ordering. He said, I've never used it to order,
but I do believe there's an optional pin that probably
makes a lot of sense. In fact, if you do
not live alone, I would probably enable that. Probably smarter

(11:33):
to do that, although I have enabled the pin on
the Amazon Prime Video because of my kids, and it's
such a nightmare, Like every time I want to watch something,
which is not very often, but this is probably why
I don't watch a lot on Prime Video, I have
to put in this pin that's like, you know, six
digits on my remote control, and it just keeps me
basically from watching anything on Amazon Prime. Speaking of Amazon,

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let's see here. Amazon updated their entire Kindle family, including
the first ever color Kindle. Now I know the Kindle
is known for having a page that looks just like
the printed page. This still uses e ink, so I
do like that. You've got four new Kindle models hitting

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the market, including that first ever color Kindle. They also
reimagine the Kindle Scribe with some AI features. They've got
the fastest Kindle paper white yet, and then they've got
the new entry level Kindle in a fun Macha color
I don't know if you know about this trend started
on TikTok, where people they basically decorate their kindles. It's

(12:39):
like a whole thing. I mean, books are popular now
because of TikTok. They call it book talk. So these
these people they recommend books that they're reading other people
read them. Oh my gosh, what a concept, people reading
books again.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
So the Kindle Colorsoft, I think is the most notable
model here. This is the first kindle with a color display.
So it's color pages, it's got color pictures. It's also
got color on the screen. So if you want to
look at the cover of your book in full color,
you can do that, and then if you want to
highlight in color, you can do that.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Now. Do I think this is necessary on the Kindle?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
But is it nice to have. Sure, Like if you
read graphic.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Novels, kids are reading books on there, that's kind of
cool to have color for that. If you read comic
books on there, I think this was inevitable to have
the color Kindle.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Do you need it tomorrow? Probably not.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I can't think of a reason why I want the
Color Kindle except for the fact that it's brand new
and available, and I'm really fighting that urge to get one,
because why do I need this thing. I've been reading
books in black and white forever, and I like the
fact that the kindle is closer to the printed page.
It does not look like an iPad, It does not
look like a smartphone screen, it does not look like

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a computer screen. So even when I'm reading my Kindle,
I do not feel like I am engaging with technology.
And that's the whole beauty of the Kindle is that,
even though it is very high tech, the technology blends
into the background and you actually just focus on reading.
And I do love my Kindle. I really do prefer
it over physical books a majority of the time. Let's see, okay,

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colorsoft is waterproof, which is nice. Bring it in the bath,
you can bring it to the beach. It also has
wireless charging, so they did that for a reason make
it easier to charge, obviously, But this only gets eight
weeks of battery life. And I know that sounds like
a lot, but if you're like me, you don't charge
your kindle very much. I don't, so eight weeks is

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noticeably shorter than say, the months that a standard kindle
would last. Okay, Next up the Kindles Scribe, and I'll
tell you the prices afterwards.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Kindlescribe.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Remember this is the Kindle that is like a little
bit bigger of a screen. You can write on it.
It's almost like a notebook. So this has new borders,
smaller borders in book writing experience. You can actually write
inside the pages that you're reading and the text will
wrap a it, which I thought was pretty cool. It's
got an AI powered notebook for summarizing your own handwritten notes.

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This is for pre order. It will ship on December fourth.
Then you've got the Kindle paper White. This is the
Kindle I think that a majority of people should buy.
This is the one that has a faster page turns.
They're twenty five percent faster. It's got the highest contrast
ratio of any Kindle. It's got a larger seven inch
displace just a little bit larger there. But it's also

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the thinnest paper white ever, and that gets you up
to three months of battery life. So for my money,
I think the Kindle Paper White is probably the best
bang for your buck for everyone because you're getting kind
of like the best looking screen, the thinnest. Also, it's bigger,
and so I think that that's going to be probably
the best for most people. And then you've got the

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entry level kindle, which I get it's probably the most
tempting because it goes on sale the most. It's obviously
the cheapest, but I think if you spend just a
little bit more, you're going to get that kindle. Paper
white is just a better, better value for your money.
But this is the smallest kindle, it's the most affordable.
Obviously comes in that new Machta color. How do you
say that Macha macha color? Not machta macha. It's like

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macha tea, Macha green tea. It's like a green, yeah, green,
it's green. But you know, we gotta say macha because
that's what the TikTokers are. You know, everything on Instagram is,
you know, it's all about esthetics. It's aesthetics everything, Like
there are literally people on Instagram where everything is just
like a certain color or a certain vibe or a

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certain theme.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
It's all about aesthetics.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
And they make a lot of money promoting just stuff
that's aesthetically pleasing.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, it's a big thing.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
This has twenty five percent brighter front light, so that's
the entry level kindle.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
How much are these things?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Entry level Kindle starts at one hundred and ten dollars,
Kindle paper white starts at one hundred and sixty, the
color soft with that color screen two hundred and eighty dollars,
and then the Kindlescribe starts at four hundred dollars. Keep
in mind you're gonna want a case for any of
these things. That adds another fifty dollars to it, whatever,
maybe twenty if you get the knockoff cases. But again,

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do not buy these things full price. Do not buy
the kindles full price. They always go on sale, and
you can trade in your old Kindle to get twenty
percent off the nuance, So stack that with a sale.
Put this thing in your Amazon cart, save it for later, watch.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
When it goes on sale.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Eighty eight Rich one on one Rich on tech dot TV.
Submit your question there. We'll get to your questions right
after this. Let's get to us Stephanie in Los Angeles.
Stephanie are on with Rich.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Hi, Hi, Rich, I need some help in regard to telephones.
All I have now is a landline. I'm a senior citizen,
as you might guess, I have m acular degeneration, which
means I need oversized numbers, letters, markings on it. My
landline went out during the week and I was stuck

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here with no community vacation whatever, which made me realize
it's a long overdue that I get a cell phone,
a mobile phone, an iPhone what I referred to as
magic machine for emergencies, and I'm hoping that you can
make some suggestion emergencies and businesses. I don't need any colors, music, lights, whistles,

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anything like that.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, so you just want a simple phone that you
can use to call in the event that your landline
goes out.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Okay, Well, the website that I would check out is, well,
there's a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
So there's there's actually I have.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
No website, no computer, no TV, no you know, I
barely have a doorbell I have I have I don't
have any technology except for the landline, and I have
indoor plumbing.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, well so then it sounds like you need to go.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Can you go? Can you make it into a store.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Yeah, I have a caregiver.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Okay, okay, Well, I mean I would say for you,
you probably want to get a phone that has large
numbers on it, and that's basically it. Now, there is
a phone that's made specifically for folks with a sort
of a vision impairment or you know, so I'm trying

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to find it.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I did a story with it.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Saw that the Great Sea Sun Assistive Tech conference, and
they had all kinds of great stuff and this was
one of them on display. Now, the problem is it's
a little expensive, so I don't know how much you
want to spend. But this phone, it's called Blind Shell
B L I N D S H E l L.
And what I like about this is that they specifically

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created the phone to work for users like yourself, and
so all of the features on it are are really good.
Not only are the buttons really big, but the you know,
it's very simple. The letters on the screen are nice
and big. But it also can call out everything that
you do. So if you dial a number and you
dial three, it will say the number three as you
press it, which I really like as well. So that

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the problem with that is that it's a little pricey,
and I wish they would come out with a simpler one.
But that's that that would be the first thing I
would tell your caregiver about.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
Is blind Where do I find it?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
That You're gonna have to get online?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Typically, so you got to tell the caregiver to to
check out blind shell dot com. Okay, got that, so
blindshell dot com the other website. Now, you can also
walk into like a you know, a consumer cellular kind
of place if you want to get a phone from them,
or just go into like a Verizon store and see

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what's your You don't have a carrier at all.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
Huh, I don't have a carrier, okay.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
So what I would do is look for, you know,
maybe one of the carriers, whoever your your caregiver's carrier is,
maybe walk into their store and they typically sell a
couple of flip phones. You can even go into a
Walmart and and just see, like what flip phones they
have with big numbers. That's all I think you need
at this point is just a flip phone with big numbers,
and that's it. Okay, So and that's it, and then

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just get it activated, get it on a plan. It
doesn't sound like you need a lot of minutes, so
you can get it on a plan that's maybe prepaid
for the whole year at once or monthly whatever you need,
but you don't need like a big unlimited plan from
something like a AT and T or Verizon, because it's
just going to be wasteful. So get something maybe that's
you know, even pre paid, but that you know, those

(21:23):
those those will work for you. And I think the
other website that I like if you want to look
for phones that are just simple is Dumbwireless dot Com
did a story with them. It's a couple in Los
Angeles that's trying to, you know, help spread the word
about these simple phones. And they've got a bunch on
their website that at least can give you some ideas
for the simple phones and you might end up purchasing one.

(21:44):
So again, Dumb Wireless Consumer Cellular, check them out, blind
Shell check them out, and maybe just go into a
Walmart pick up a flip phone and just prepay it
for the year and that'll be perfect if you ever
need it in the event of emergency or if your
phone goes out. Thanks for the call, Stephanie, do appreciate it,
Mike writes in Let's see, I bought a Wi Fi

(22:07):
extender antenna and now it's installed, but I don't know
how to set it up.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
With all the ring and r low equipment that I have.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
My question is how to find someone to help me out,
But I'm not even sure what to search home Wi Fi.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Home security CCTV.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I live near Santa Clarita and Palmdale on a large property,
so extended Wi Fi is important to set up my
security cameras.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Any help is appreciated. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
So, Mike, I would just search on Yelp for home
network installation. So Yelp will have a great amount of
people that do this stuff. Home network installation. You can
search home automation. You can search TV mounting, a lot
of those folks will do it as well, and security systems,
so any of those searches will yield someone in your area.

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When it comes to selecting someone, what I like to
do is not only look for nice reviews, but also
call maybe the top two people that you decide on
and just get a feel for them. So if they
are nice to you on the phone, if they have
time for you on the phone, if they answer your
questions in a nice manner, then they will probably be
nice when you actually need them to install this, and

(23:12):
also afterwards if you have any problems with them, if.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
They're short with you. If they tell you, hey, can
you send me a text?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Whatever? Make this quick? You probably don't want to do
business with them. So again, just search for those things.
You might even just search for exactly what you're trying
to do, ring cameras or r low cameras and put
that into Yelp and see what happens there. But those
are the way to do it, and that should be
what you need.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Lori writes in from Canal Fulton, Ohio. What's the next
best Apple phone? After the twelve Mini? I prefer smaller phones,
probably because I started with a BlackBerry. Any recommendations, Well, Laurie,
what about the iPhone thirteen Mini? So if you go
to Apple's website, they do not continue to sell the

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previous phones after the original the new phones are out.
They only have a selection of them. So if you
go to Apple dot com and you look at the
phones that they sell after they release the new iPhone,
they typically discontinue certain old phones. So right now they're
selling the iPhone sixteen Pro, the iPhone sixteen, the iPhone fifteen,

(24:20):
the iPhone fourteen, and the iPhone se. So my advice
is go to a third party website get the iPhone
thirteen Mini. So this phone was released about three years ago,
which means is not gonna be the newest, not gonna
be the best, but it's gonna be an upgrade over
the twelve Mini, and I would say it probably has
about three years of software updates left, so you can

(24:40):
get this right now, and then what I would do is,
you know, just use that for the next couple of
years until it's discontinued. Now, there's a difference between a
phone being discontinued software wise and hardware wise, So theoretically
the iPhone or I guess currently the iPhone thirteen Mini
is discontinued. Apple's no longer actively making new phones, they're

(25:00):
not manufacturing those anymore, but they're still supporting it with
software updates. So that means that you could get this
phone today and you'll still be security wise and software
wise fine for the next couple of years. Apple doesn't
publish the amount of years they support the iPhones, but
they will tell you when the iPhones are supported through

(25:21):
the new updates of iOS. So if we look at
the iOS eighteen right now, they are supporting phones all
the way back to the iPhone ten R, the eleven,
the twelve, the thirteen. So if we extrapolate, the thirteen
is still one two three models ahead of the oldest phone,

(25:42):
which means they usually drop off one one year every time.
We're talking three more years of software updates, I would say.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
So.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I looked up on Amazon. It's about three hundred and
fifty dollars refurbished. So iPhone thirteen many perfect. It'll be
a great solution for your iPhone twelve Mini. Nice replacement
for that. And then what you can do is you
can buy the iPhone S when the three or two
years is up. Whenever you're done with this iPhone thirteen Mini,
then you can go with the iPhone se which is.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Expected to come out.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Let's see if you go to MacRumors Buyer's Guide Buyer's
Guide dot MacRumors dot com, this is an excellent website.
This will tell you the cycle of the phone. So
right now, just to give you some perspective, iPhone sixteen
pro says buy now in large green, and it's only
been out for thirty six days.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I can't believe I only had this for thirty six
days and I actually got it two weeks early, so
I've had this for a little bit longer. So iPhone S,
on the other hand, has been out ready nine hundred
and fifty six days. The average is seven hundred and
twenty five days. This is what I love about the Internet.
There's someone that sits there and tracks this stuff, so
you don't have to and I don't have to. So again,

(26:54):
buyer's guidet, MacRumors dot com. It's uh, they are rumoring
that the iPhone S will be updated pretty much any
day now, so we can expect this. Uh it's supposedly
in the spring, but we can expect this just any
moment now. iPhone se So again, that's the that's the
one i'd wait for. Is for your replacement for this

(27:15):
other one?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
All right?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Eighty eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven
four to two four one zero one. The website for
the show rich on tech dot tv. If you want
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new iPad Mini. Speaking of which, iPad Mini, let's see

(27:38):
how long that went?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Can I find that real quick? Oh, it's only been us.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Twenty seven days since they had a new one, but
now it's available very soon. I will tell you what
the iPad Mini has and what it doesn't have, coming.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Up right here on rich On Tech. Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Let's go to uh Morgan, who wrote in from Thousand Oaks. Hey,
rich I'm moving to a twenty three hundred square foot
house and a five acre ranch surrounded by avocado trees,
which means lots of coyotes. I want to get tracking
callers from my two indoor kiddies in case they get out.
There are so many options, I'm having difficulty deciding. Any
advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm a huge fan and

(28:18):
trust your advice for keeping my kiddy safe.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, so Morgan, Okay, good.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I was gonna say, I'm glad these are not outdoor
cats because with coyotes not good, not a good mix.
So and even if they get out, you got to
keep them inside. You don't want these cats outside. So
couple ways you can do this. So, just to give
you a basis of understanding, there are a couple things
going on here. There are callers for pets that have

(28:45):
GPS built in.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Now that is going to give you the absolute best.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Precision location every second that this cat is moving anywhere
they go, because that is actually going to have a
cellular connection on it along with GP. Yes, that is
going to be the most precise. It's also going to
be the most expensive because they typically come with a
monthly monitoring fee and the battery life is going to
be the absolute worst out of all of the solutions.

(29:12):
So I would say, at the very least, probably don't
do that because it's probably not the best case scenario.
So you're going to be charging this thing all the time,
You're gonna be paying a monthly fee. And again you
mentioned that these are indoor cats, so this is only
if they get out you want an idea, but on
the flip side, you get the best location tracking. So

(29:32):
the two brands that are probably the tops for this
are one called Tractive tr ac Tive and then Whistle Whistle.
I've actually done a story with Whistle and their stuff
is great. They mostly market it towards dogs, so if
you'd probably want their smallest one, I would check to
see what the weight limits are or what the suggested

(29:55):
weight is, but there typically we did this story with
a small dog and that was one of the issues
is that the tracker is a little bit big, so
but again that's gonna be the most precise. The thing is,
the battery life is gonna be really bad. So I mean,
once these things are on full GPS, you're gonna get
about two days of battery life before this goes dead,
which means if your cat got out and you didn't

(30:15):
find them within two days, that's it.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
That collers one hundred percent useless.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So you can extend that time by creating sort of
like a geofence around your house, which means the caller,
if it's in the area that you set for that geofence,
will not use GPS, which means it's not going to
use the battery up. It's gonna use Wi Fi around
the house, which uses much less power. Now, the two
other ways you can do this is with a tracking
device like a tile or an air tag or a

(30:44):
Google tracker or a Samsung tracker. Let me go through
those real quick. So an air tag obviously is probably
the most popular way people do this. You get an
air tag collar on Amazon. You put the air tag
on your cat cat gets outside. Anyone who has an
iPhone nearby which Remember, you are in this big area,
five acre ranch. There's not gonna be a lot of
iPhones on that five acre ranch, so the chances of

(31:06):
getting an update on where your cat is located in
that area is going to be tricky. But the neat
thing that the air tags have with the new iPhones
is precision location. So if you are getting close, if
you walk around your yard, your iPhone will tell you
how close you are to your cat. So yesterday I

(31:26):
left my phone somewhere around my house. I did not
know where it was. I went on my Apple Watch
I used to find my feature and it directed me
to my phone which was sitting on the car seat
outside in my car, and it said, Okay, your phone
is thirty nine feet away, it's forty feet away, it's
forty it's twenty feet away, it's ten feet away, it's
five feet away. Okay, you're right there, and then you

(31:47):
can ring it. Same thing with an air tag, you
can use that to kind of get to the general location,
and then you can ring it to see where your
cat is. When it comes to tile, they don't have
the precision finding, but they do have a very wide
long rain for the tile tracker which is anywhere anywhere
from three hundred and fifty to five I think it's
up to five hundred feet, and so you can get
a tile tracker hanging on your cat. Again, it's going

(32:10):
to use all the other TILE users in the area
to find it, but there's probably not going to be many,
so you're going to be relying on your phone to
help you find it. But the good news is you
can ring it from far away and still find it
because it's got that long tracking. Now, if I was
going to do something, if you have a Samsung phone,
I'd probably go with a Samsung specific tracker. They call
them smart tags, I think, and are smart things, and

(32:32):
those are going to be great because they also have
the precision finding. So again my recommendation, if you've got
an iPhone, probably go with an air tag. If you've
got Samsung, go with their specific Samsung tag. And if
you don't have one of those phones, you got a
random Android phone, maybe go.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
With the tile.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
But I think this specific GPS tracking callers are going
to be the most expensive solution and they're also going
to be the best if your cat ever went missing.
But it's also the most headaches because you're paying every month,
and you're charging this thing all the time, which may
not sound like a big deal right now, but I
guarantee this eighty to eight. Rich one on one, thanks
for the call or the email from Thousand Oaks. If

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you want to get your email in, go to rich
on Tech dot tv, hit the website, hit contact there,
and that's where you can find it. I'm gonna tell
you about the iPad Mini coming up. iPad Mini has
a brand new chip, it's got some new features, it's
got the same price tag. But there's one thing in
particular I don't like about what Apple did not improve.

(33:31):
I'll explain coming up right here on rich on Tech.
Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
out with you talking technology on a beautiful fall weekend.
Hopefully it's nice where you are. The weather is uh.
This is like the perfect time of the year. It
just really is. I Spring and fall are just two

(33:53):
of my favorites. Rich on Tech dot tv is the
website to go to. Let's see. You can hit the
light bulb if you want links to anything I mentioned.
I keep great show notes. This is show number ninety four,
so you can go in there and check out anything
that I mentioned. You can hit contact if you want
to get in touch with me, which many of you do.

(34:13):
And that's what I love about this show. You know,
I talk about the tech stuff I think you should
know about. You know, I cover this stuff, and there's
so much more to it.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's not just me.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
This is really like a community because I've got you listening,
and you're also writing back to me saying, hey, Rich,
let's mention this mention that. So I got a lot
of emails about the question about the senior citizen who
wanted just a simple phone for emergency. Stand Ward says, hey, Rich.
Target sells consumer cellular prepaid plans. I've been with them

(34:42):
four years. That's a record for me. Walmart has straight talk.
I didn't care for them, only lasted two weeks for me.
Let's see here. Thank you, stan Ward. Then we've got
Randy said app Rich. Apple sells refurbished phones on their site.
You can also get them from gazelle dot com. I
buy mine and get a significant discount. The phones come

(35:02):
packaged in a white box like new. You might see
a spot or two, like a mild scratch, but the
phone is brand new and worth the huge discount. They
have Samsung and Google as well. I personally never buy
new and I own the phone, so you can sell
your old phone back to them. Randy, computer technical surgeon
and computer angels. Wow, Randy sounds like he knows what

(35:22):
he's doing. And yes, I one hundred percent agree, Randy,
buy your stuff refurbished because you will save money. The
problem is, we as Americans, are so in love with
the finance plans and the installment plans that when you
tell someone, hey, you could buy this phone out right
for six hundred bucks on Gazelle, or you can walk
into your AT and T store and pay thirty dollars

(35:43):
a month for the next three years, nine times out
of ten people want to pay thirty dollars a month
for the next three years. Don't ask me why. That's
not the way I am. That's not what I like
to do. But I think buying the phone is great,
and you made a great point. At the end, you
own the phone, and you can sell your old phone
back to them with a lot of these products, you know,
installment upgrade plan things. You got to give the phone

(36:03):
back to get your new phone. And so it's eighteen
and T and Verizon they get to capture that. You know,
it might be one hundred or two or two hundred
dollars spread, but times millions of customers. They are really
making out on all these installment plans that pretend to
be zero percent or whatever, zero for thirty six months,
but really at the end of the day, you're paying
more for your plan, and you're also paying more when

(36:27):
you give up that phone and give up that one
hundred to two hundred dollars that you may get the
spread between what they're going to resell it for and
what you could have sold it for on your own.
So highly recommended, Randy, I love your system. Gazell dot
Com is great. Swapa is also a good one. That's
a very popular site for buying things like phones and
stuff like that. So just be sure that you're getting

(36:48):
it from a respectable site, because you know, some of
these phones, you want to make sure that they're they're
on the up and up, and by going to a
Gazell dot com or a Swapa they typically are, and
of course of Apple's webs as well. Let's see Nika
in Torren says Rich I've used track phone for twenty years.
It's perfect. Verizon owns it, so no reception problems. Home

(37:12):
Shopping Network in QBC sell with an entire year of service.
I have a nice latest model Samsung, but for the
woman who called a flip phone, will cost less than
forty dollars with a year service plan after this nineteen
ninety nine every three months ideal for an emergency phone.
Love your show, great suggest in Nica. That is a
good way to do it. I love having it the

(37:33):
whole year in advance, right, very very simple. And Ralph
in Van Buren Township, Michigan writes in to say there
is a flip phone with features for the elderly. It's
called the Jitterbug. It's a flip cell phone and camera
with large number buttons.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
The Jitterbug.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, isn't the Jitterbug? Is that its own brand? Okay,
that's through Lively, Oh, best Buy. I bought this company, Yes,
Jitterbug from best Buy. Great great suggestions. As you can see,
there are many many options out there. The other thing
you can do if you have like a regular Samsung phone,
and you've got a person that you helped take care
of or that has a phone and just thinks they're

(38:11):
way too complicated. Samsung has what's called easy Mode, and
if you are helping an elderly person with their phone
or someone who's not so tech savvy, turn on easy Mode.
It makes the Samsung any Samsung phone so much easier, It.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Makes all of the.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Display screen size much bigger, it simplifies everything.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
It's just so much easier.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
So easy Mode on the Samsung devices is like a
hidden kind of gem. If you're using any Samsung device
with a person that needs help, Let's go to let's
see Oscar in Winchester, California.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Oscar. You're on with rich Y.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Rich Hi. I got a simple question. Last week. You
were talking about the switching from Verizon to Google Messages
and you mentioned that it's best if we do an
SMS backup before doing it. So I was looking on

(39:12):
Google Play for an SMS backup and I found SMS
backup restore, but I was looking for one that didn't
have Some of them just said it had a lot
of options, but some of them said with ads and
stuff like that. I was looking for a name that

(39:33):
was just looked like it was generic, just do a
backup and restore, and I downloaded one that that SMS
backup and restore but in setting it up, it asked
for some stuff which was normal, I think, like excuse

(39:59):
me that access access to messages, uh, calls storage. But
when I got stubbed when danced me for ability to
make calls and that I you know, I got out

(40:19):
to the program then just set up.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Okay, well the so great question.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
And this is something that is very simple on the
Android side of things, which is what you're using, and
it's this is the only backup SMS backup that I
recommend on the Android side of things, because this is
the one that I've been using pretty much forever.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
It's gone through it's changed hands over the years.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
But the specific name of the program, like you noticed,
is SMS Backup and Restore and the company that makes
it is sync Tech pty Ltd sink Tech.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's the one that I like, and that's the one
that I use. Now, you are right.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
It does ask for a couple of permissions, but it's
mostly for the things that it needs to do, and
typically it asks if you want to back up your
messages and your phone calls, and then it asks where
do you want to store your calls and messages? So
you can configure this thing to run on Google Drive
or drop Box, or you can just keep it on
your phone and then you can schedule a recurring backup

(41:20):
as well. And so what I think what you got
tripped up on was why did it ask for access
to the phone. The reason for that is to access
the phone logs. Now, I don't think you need to
back up your phone logs unless you had, you know,
business or something where you needed that information, so you
can safely turn that off.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
And this is a trusted app.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
It's been around for a very long time and I
do trust it, So even if you had access to
your call logs, I mean, look, here's here's the thing
that we have to think about in general, is this
app has accessed to your text messages. There's a lot
of information, personal information in text messages. So when you're
choosing a backup app, you do want something that is
trusted because it does have full access to a lot

(42:03):
of data. So what I like about this is that
it's putting it into your own places. So it's putting
it into Google Drive, it's putting into Dropbox, One Drive,
or your phone. It's not putting it to its own cloud.
So I think that that's going to be Okay, I
think that this is a way to go. I think
that you should do this for sure if you have
an Android phone, and it's it's very simple to do.

(42:25):
So a great question, Oscar, go with that app and
I think you'll be fine. Get those messages backed up.
I did get some emails from folks that we're going
through that changeover Verizon, you know, as you know.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Is getting rid of their messages.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Plus in just a couple of weeks, November seventh, I believe,
is the date where that app will stop working, and
so everyone's switching over, and everyone was asking, you know,
what should I switch to? Google Messages is the app
that I recommend because it does have support for rcs,
which means your messages to Android other Android phones and
more importantly iPhones are going to be much much improved,

(43:00):
especially photos and videos.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
But some people did have issues and they didn't.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Make a backup and they lost all of their text
messages in the switchover.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I don't know how, but you know, it's software. It
can happen.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
There could be a hiccup, So please back up your
messages if they're important for me.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I don't care. I don't need my messages backed up
to me.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Text messages are fleeting, and I don't really need them
backed up because it's mostly like, hey, i'm outside, okay,
I'll come down and get you, or Hey, your pizzas here,
whatever it is. I'm not like sitting there having, you know,
things that I want to remember forever on my text
message conversations. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but that's the
way I feel right now. On the Android side of things, again,

(43:39):
just do a backup SMS, backup and restore.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I'll put the link in the show note.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
On the iPhone side of things, it's a little bit
trickier because Apple backs up your text messages, but they
don't give you really a way to access those. But
if you want a way to access them, I like
an app called imazing I the letter I mazing mzing.
The website is the letter imzing dot com. You will
have to pay for that. It is not free software.

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Eight and eight rich one oh one eight eight eight
seven four two four one zero one. I see the
calls on the board. We will get to those. Plus
more of your emails at richon tech dot tv. Hit
contact to send me an email. Plus Netflix just had
their earnings report and uh, not only are they adding

(44:24):
more subscribers, there's some interesting takeaways.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I'll tell you what they're doing next coming up right
here on rich on Tech.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Welcome back to rich on Tech, rich DeMuro here. Okay,
I did promise two stories, so let's probably get through
these Apple new iPad Mini so iPad Mini you know
and love same thing, basically, just a couple of upgrades,
new chips, so it's going to be faster. It's got
the A seventeen pro. Obviously, it's built for Apple Intelligence,

(44:56):
which is their new AI that's coming soon, coming very soon. Actually,
let's see the rumor mill has it by the end
of the month, because well, actually it's not a rumor
anymore because this Apple iPad announcement said the first phase
of AI will be coming by the end of the month.
So end of October now comes with double the storage,
one hundred and twenty eight gigs instead of the old

(45:17):
sixty four for the same price. So apparently it's faster,
better graphics, it's got the AI features like the writing tools,
improved SERI more down the line, it's got faster Wi
Fi so Wi Fi six e, which probably your router
does not handle. So that's not really that exciting unless
you have a router that's Wi Fi sixty enabled. It's

(45:40):
got five G support on the cellular if you buy
the cellular version. No more physical simcard, it's e SIM only.
Cameras are improved. Now supports the Apple Pencil Pro. It's
got a couple of new colors, including blue and purple.
Comes in the standard. I think it's starlight, and let's
the other one space gray. It's got an eight point

(46:00):
three inch screen. The USB C port is faster. It's
got well I think I had lightning on the old one.
Now it's USBC. It's got ten gigabits data transfer, so
faster than before if you're transferring big files off this thing.
But the screen, Let's talk about the screen real quick.
That's the thing I'm disappointed at. It's got an eight
point three inch screen that doesn't seem to be improved

(46:21):
from before. And I will tell you an experience. I
bought the iPad Mini because I wanted to use it
as my in flight kind of entertainment, and I could
not deal with the screen because it just wasn't very clear,
and I'm very used to the clear screen. The retina
display on the iPhone, and I don't think this iPad
Mini has it, so I'm gonna have to see. I'm
gonna have to go into the store and check it
out when it launches. But that's my feeling right now

(46:44):
is that if you want the clearest iPad screen, and
this is not cheap by the way, this is five
hundred dollars. So if you want kind of like a
better screen, you gotta go with a better iPad. Let's
go to let's see here, Let's go to Sarah in
a studio city. Sorry, you're on with Rich?

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Hi Rich. I'm so glad I held on because I
love your advice and I have some two questions I
really need help with. Okay, So the California fast tech scam,
I don't know if you've heard about it.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
A lot of people were talking.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
About it on the neighborhood app. I got that text
and unfortunately I clicked it, but nothing opened up. I
didn't let it go so long that it opened up.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I caught it.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
I was like, oh no, that's that might be wrong,
and I closed it and you know, it went away,
and then I blocked and reported the text. But yes,
my phone has been not really acting funny. But I
got kicked out of my Instagram and had to log
back in and had a problem doing that, And that's
really the only thing that's happened weird. But I'm a
little nervous. Is there anything I should do? Or really

(47:42):
I want to know what can they do if they
did get in my phone?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Well, okay, so number one, you got to follow me
on Instagram, Sarah, because I did post about this yesterday
and it was so when I get a bunch of
emails from people about things. And by the way, this scam,
this toll scam has been going on for a while.
Better Business Bureau wrote about this thing. Let's see, they
wrote about this thing back in August, so they were talking.

(48:09):
They sent out the warning and Better Business Bureau. Actually,
it's kind of like me, where a bunch of people
email me and tell me about something, then I'll write
about it. Better Business Bureau has this thing called Scam Tracker,
so all people around the US are like writing in
and saying how they got scammed or the scams that
they've encountered, and then it kind of bubbles to the top,
and Better Business Bureau will right about the ones that
they see over and over.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
This was clearly one of them.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
But anyway, so I got that email from people, a
bunch of emails from people saying, rich, I'm getting these
scam told scam things, and basically it says, California Fast Tracked,
you have an outstanding toll balance to steer clear of
a late fee. Kindly settle your balance, and then it
gives you a website. You clicked that website that and
then did you put in any personal information?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
I didn't even let it go so far is to
open a website, so I wasn't sure where it was
even going.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
I dropped it and closed the.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
The page.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Yeah, well, I click the websites. Do not do this
at home, but I actually click the websites and I
test them out to see exactly what the scam is.
And in this one, of course, like most of them,
they are trying to capture as much personal information as possible,
your payment method and anything else they can get from you.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
So it's good that you close it out.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I don't think that the getting logged out of Instagram
is related to this, So I think you're okay because
you do not let this website go through. But just
to be safe, what I would do on your iPhone
is clear your browser, all the data on your browser,
so clear the cash, clear the any of the browsing history.
So you can go on Safari to do that, go

(49:40):
into your settings and just clear out everything. And I
tell you how to do that real quick, but I
got to look it up and see. But you can
go on just just Google search Safari clear cash and cookies,
and that that should tell you how to do it.
Clear history, cash and cookies from Safari. I'll put the
link in the show notes as well. But once you
do that, restart your phone. Obviously you should be okay

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with that. But again, these kind of scams. There's another
one going around right now with Amazon Prime. That's also
on my Instagram at richon Tech, So check that one out.
And so I kind of explain the anatomy of this scam,
which you know, it doesn't use your real name. It
tells you have to update your payment method to continue
using Prime. It's got a link, and so of course

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I did click the link, which I do not recommend
you doing, but I did it to figure out how
these things work. The email address on the email is
not from Amazon, It's from some random email address. The
sign in page on this Amazon Prime scam looks very realistic,
and so once you go through there, it'll capture your
login information. Then it brings you to a payment page.

(50:44):
It'll capture your payment information, and then the icing on
the cake is that it will say enter the one
time password. We just sent you the one time code
the two factor authentication. So because you just they just
tried to log in with your Amazon account, you got
that code text at your phone.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Now they ask you for that. It's a scam.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
And the California toll or any other toll authority does
not ask for payment via text.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
This is rich on Tech. Coming up, we're talking bitcoin.
Let's talk Bitcoin.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Went to the LA Bitcoin Day this week and kind
of interesting to be in the same room with a
lot of hardcore bitcoiners. Bitcoin, let's see, hovering over sixty
eight thousand dollars right now per coin, up eight percent
this week. And you know, this was a gathering of

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folks discussing all the aspects of bitcoin, which they believe
is the future of money. So I spoke with Swan
CEO Corey Clipston about the bitcoin market.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
What is the state of bitcoin in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 9 (51:51):
Yeah, it's been an incredible year for bitcoin.

Speaker 10 (51:53):
A lot of legitimacy came in with black Rock and
Fidelity and some of the other large Wall Street firms
launching Bitcoin spot ETFs back in January, and then obviously
it's been a big topic in the presidential election cycle
and a lot more favorable attitudes of regulators and Congress,
which has been really cool.

Speaker 9 (52:11):
It's been a nice tailwind.

Speaker 10 (52:12):
So we've seen the price go up from the thirties
about this time last year and we're about sixty eight
thousand dollars per bitcoin today, now very important. You can
buy a piece of a bitcoin, you don't have to
buy a whole thing. Just making sure people know that.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
That is important to know because people see that large
number and think that's it. Explain in layman's terms what
bitcoin is. If someone's watching or listening and they just
don't even really understand what bitcoin is, how do you
explain that to them?

Speaker 10 (52:38):
Yeah, I think one of the easiest ways to think
about it is it's a new technology that has created
a better form of money. And so all that you're
seeing essentially with all of this hype cycles of you know,
price goes really far up and then it crashes back down,
and then it goes up even more, and then it
crashes back down.

Speaker 9 (52:53):
And this has been going on for the last fifteen years.

Speaker 10 (52:56):
Is just more and more people around the world understanding
what it is, and they're making a bet that they
think it's going to be adopted by more people. But
essentially it's just better monetary technology, better than gold and
better than paper dollars like fiat cash, like the US
dollar or the euro.

Speaker 9 (53:13):
And so that's really what it is. It's an adoption story.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
So what makes it a better type of currency? Is
it the digital underpinnings of it.

Speaker 10 (53:23):
So I think what it is is if it's outside
of any one person's control. That's the secret of bitcoin.
It's actually decentralized. It means that you can't print more
of it, so there can never be more than twenty
one million bitcoins. They are subdivisible, so you have plenty
of bitcoin and kind of infinite subdivisibility, but you can't
print more of it, unlike what we see with the dollar,

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the euro and all these other fiat currencies. Fiat just
means government controlled. They just print more of it. And essentially,
when you print more dollars, that's a tax on everybody else.
So this is what we've kind of seen for the
last one hundred years or so, is instead of having
to pass attack to be able to spend more on government,
they just inflate the currency by printing more of it

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and that's what they spend.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
So you have some people that are sort of speculating
on this and buying it for that reason. Some people
want to make it the currency of the world. Do
those two ideas work together, Yeah, they do.

Speaker 10 (54:18):
I mean, I think you need price discovery no matter what.
So we welcome lots of traders in bitcoin. We focus
on long term savings, investing for the future, kind of
you know, seventh generation type stuff. So it's very much
about accumulating and not a lot of active trading. But
you can't have price discovery if you don't have a
liquid market, and bitcoin has a very deep global twenty

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four to seven liquid market, more than any other asset.
One of the interesting things we've seen over the last
five years or so is it's actually that bell weather
that tells you before the market opens or over the weekend,
what's going to happen with the markets that trade, you know,
nine to five or nine thirty to four or whatever,
because bitcoin is something that they can actually sell or

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where they can actually express their view that we're heading
into a bullish stretch.

Speaker 9 (55:04):
Or something like that. Bitcoin actually moves.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
First, do you think the average person should get into bitcoin?
And why?

Speaker 9 (55:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (55:11):
So, look, I think that buying bitcoin goes hand in
hand with learning about bitcoin.

Speaker 9 (55:16):
So we always say the more you know, the more
you buy.

Speaker 10 (55:18):
So I always say start with education now if it
helps you to pay more attention and have selective attention
for bitcoin podcasts, bitcoin when they're talking about it on
CNBC or whatever. To own a little bit, just go
buy one hundred dollars worth, go buy a thousand dollars worth,
have it on an app, and just start following the price.
Then you'll start to follow the news. Then maybe you

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buy a book. Then maybe you talk to a friend
who's into it, and you kind of go down the
rabbit hole, as we say, and you basically, like any
good investment, you should only buy what you know and
what you understand. Otherwise, by definition, we humans are just
very sort of prone to buy the shiny object and
then sell when it gets scary. So unless you actually

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know what you're holding, and what you've bought and understand it.
You'll basically buy high and sell low, which is not good.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Have we seen a breakthrough moment for bitcoin or do
you think that's still on the horizon or will that
day ever come?

Speaker 2 (56:14):
And what do you think that looks like?

Speaker 9 (56:17):
Look, I think we've seen.

Speaker 10 (56:18):
It's so funny if you kind of zoom out and
you look at the last fifteen years since bitcoin launched
in January of two thousand and nine, it didn't have
a price, and then it was trading for tens of
thousands of coins per dollar, and now it's sixty eight
thousand dollars per bitcoin.

Speaker 9 (56:33):
So it is actually happening very rapidly.

Speaker 10 (56:36):
And when we look back on this, you know, one
hundred years, two hundred years from now, I think we'll say, wow,
that was actually incredibly fast when you think about being
able to add a new monetary asset for eight billion
humans around the world. Like I think sometimes people are
very impatient and they want it to happen all at once.
But by definition it is hard to understand, and there's
a lot of science and a lot of technology underpinning it,

(56:58):
and it takes a pretty good knowledge of seven or
eight different disciplines to be able to understand bitcoin pretty well.
You know, monetary theory, monetary history, cryptography, economics, finance, like
so many different things you need to understand to in
the rabbit hole goes ever deeper.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
When I hear that no one, no one person controls it,
you know, and no government controls it. That tells me
that governments may not like the idea of this is
that proven to be the case.

Speaker 10 (57:25):
So it depends on the government, and it depends on
who it is in the government. So what we always
like to say is governments are actually just made up
of people. And there are a lot of huge fans
of bitcoin in the US government and in other governments
around the world. And then also if you think about
governments and totality, some governments are more in control than others, right,
so we have dollar hegemony. Dollars, the U is the

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reserve currency of the world. There are a lot of
countries around the world where that's not the case, and
they may actually prefer some other currency, and more.

Speaker 9 (57:53):
And more they're choosing to look at bitcoin.

Speaker 10 (57:55):
They're mining bitcoin for themselves, you know, with their own
energy resources, or they're opting it as legal tender and
it's just an alternative.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Why is there so much lore around bitcoin and discussion
and just in the news and everything.

Speaker 10 (58:10):
Why it's just the most fascinating thing that I think
has happened for a lot of people. It just touches
a lot of interesting buttons for them and kind of
helps them see things in a different way.

Speaker 9 (58:23):
I didn't set out on this path. I was like
a startup guy.

Speaker 10 (58:26):
I used to work for big tech companies and was
a consultant in all this. But it just, you know,
it ticks something in my brain when I started to
learn about it back in twenty seventeen, and we often
refer to it as a mind virus, like it gets
in there and it's really hard to think about anything
else that has as much potential for positive impact in
the world as bitcoin. I think it's the I think

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it's the one thing going on in the world that
has the largest potential for positive change for humans.

Speaker 9 (58:54):
And that's why I focus on it.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
What is this week all about? What is the LA
Bitcoin Week all about? What are the people doing here?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
What do they hope to learn?

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (59:03):
Absolutely, so it's definitely about learning. It's also about connecting.
It's about just you know, people can Some people live
in a city with a high concentration of bitcoiners, a
lot of people don't, and so giving them an opportunity
to come somewhere and connect with other people in real
life instead of just seeing bitcoin people tweet on x

(59:25):
It's just something that I think a lot of people
really enjoy.

Speaker 9 (59:27):
So we have people in from all over the world
for this.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
As we all know, there's a lot of noise in
the space and around the space, whether it's all the
crypto stuff.

Speaker 9 (59:35):
You know, kind of the non bitcoin thing's going on,
and you know.

Speaker 10 (59:37):
It's just really hard to figure out what's real and
what's not, and so we try to be that voice
that provides pure signal and people can trust us because
we've done the homework and figured out what's true and
what's not.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
We're ever going to find out who Satoshi is, we can.

Speaker 9 (59:49):
Talk about that.

Speaker 10 (59:51):
So, yeah, there was just a yet another attempt to
see who Satoshi was. HBO did not get it right,
but it was very good for marketing and promotion. I
don't think we're ever going to know who the pseudonymous
founder of bitcoin was. He went by Satoshi Nakamoto. I
think that is lost to history, and I think it's
better that way. It's a great foundational myth, as you
were saying, like one of those things that intrigues people

(01:00:13):
and gets them interested. Now, that is something that was
a genius marketing stroke by the creator of bitcoin once again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
That was Swan CEO Corey Clipston. And they help you
invest into bitcoin. So if you want to check out
their website, it is Swan bitcoin dot com. And the
documentary he was referring to at the end there is
called Money Electric, The Bitcoin Mystery.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I did watch it. It is on Max so if
you want to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
It's a new documentary about bitcoin, and the first half
of the documentary really delves into what bitcoin is. The
second half really tries to like nail down who created it.
It's obviously anonymous, and they try I don't know if
they got it right. He didn't think they got it right.
I don't think they did there either, But still entertaining.
Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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four to two four one zero one the website for
the show Rich on tech dot Tv coming up, Netflix
adding continuing to add more subscribers. Tell you some of
the details from their recent earnings report and what they're doing,
what they're focusing on now, and how they're differentiating from YouTube.

(01:01:30):
Let's talk Netflix. Netflix is uh man. They are just
continuing to kill it. Added five million subscribers in the
last quarter, bring their total to two hundred and eighty
two million paid subscribers globally. Members watch about two hours

(01:01:50):
of Netflix per day on average. Live programming is where
they are expanding. They see this as high value content.
They've got that I don't know if it already happened.
The Mike Tyson, what's the other guy's name, Paul? What's
Jake Paul?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Yeah? Boxing match out? Did that already happen? I don't remember.
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Okay, then they have NFL football on Christmas Day. Ads
supported tier is very popular. This is a trend we're
seeing across all streaming. Apparently fifty percent of new sign
ups are for the ads supported tier, which is so
interesting because when Netflix first started to remember it was
the anti ad company, you know, it was no ads,

(01:02:33):
And now people are signing up. They're saying, I'd rather
pay a little bit less and I'll deal with the ads.
They're facing out their basic plan almost everywhere. The basic
plan was their cheaper plan that had no ADS, but
they're focusing on, of course, the ads supported plan is
the low cost option games. They keep making these games.
I don't know who's playing them, but I guess people are.

(01:02:54):
But they make games based on Netflix shows. Squid Game
and Virgin River are popular or those are upcoming rather,
but they do have a couple of popular ones. How
are they differentiating from competitors like YouTube premium high budget
content and of course taken on the financial risk for creators.
So YouTube, anyone can do it. Anyone can make it,

(01:03:17):
takes a little bit of investment. You need a camera
and I need to set up. But Netflix is focusing
on premium, high budget stuff, which sometimes when you watch
it you wonder they're not okay, They're not going to
bundle with other streaming services, not interested in that. That
makes sense because Netflix is kind of an outlier. Everyone
else is like Peacock. It's like all these other ones.

(01:03:37):
You're like, ah, do I really need that? But so
you might bundle it. Disney of course obviously has a
lot of interest in bundling with their three brands that
they have, but Netflix does not have any interest in
that and they still see a lot of room for
growth less than ten percent of TV time. That they
still account for less than ten percent of TV time

(01:03:58):
even in their biggest markets. So just when you think
netflixes everything to them, they still have got ninety percent
of the market to capture.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Let's go to uh Diego in San Diego Diego. You're
on the rich.

Speaker 11 (01:04:12):
Hello, Hi, I have an iMac mom and Penham from
my daughter to my wife, and she's complaining about any
window that can't open. It tends to refresh itself when
she's typing looking for something, and we refresh itself every
nine to ten seconds. Only when you have a window open,
even a web browser or anything like that, we don't.

Speaker 9 (01:04:33):
Know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
So explain to me what's happening again.

Speaker 11 (01:04:38):
Any windows you have open refresh itself. So as you're
looking for something in the search, a window up on
top and refresh itself. You have to reclick again to
that window so you can keep typing, and you got
to kind of beat the clock, which is nine or
ten seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Are you Is this happening in a web browser.

Speaker 11 (01:04:57):
In any window you open, even like text edit or
she's looking for a picture or a document usually uses
it for email and document writing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
And it just so the window refreshes. Yeah, and is
it is it a screen thing or is it a
computer thing? Like it's does it look like the screen
is refreshing itself or does it look like the window
itself is doing something like software wise?

Speaker 11 (01:05:26):
No, because I can close every window and just look
at the desktop of all this stuff on top of there,
and it's just okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
So it stays okay.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Well, I would say it sounds like you've got something
running on this computer that is not agreeing with it,
and that's that's probably what's going on here. I would
say it's a graphics thing. But if it's if the
computer desktop just sits there and doesn't do anything while
you're just letting it sit idle, then it's probably not
a graphics thing. And so okay, So let's I'm still

(01:05:59):
trying to figure this out. You you open up let's
say a web browser, and you're sitting there using it,
and the screen just like the actual window just refreshes.

Speaker 11 (01:06:07):
Yes, we'll be watching We watched something some Christmas but
I can watch it movie miracle or something, and it
kept annoyingly kept doing it every nine to ten seconds,
so we think the window out made a smaller and
it still did it, and it was funny. Just gave up.
We'll just repress itself. It doesn't have to be in

(01:06:29):
the window. It has to be next to browsers. It
doesn't on which he does a pretext, so your text
edit rewrite something there, it still transfer onto a war document.
And even that those two windows, the word document or
the text edit will refresh itself.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Okay, Well, I think what I would do personally is
check to see what's going on in this computer, Like, uh,
there's so many things you got to do to see
what's going on here. So first off, is this computer
still supported software wise?

Speaker 11 (01:06:59):
Well, it's an always him point six point eight. It's
pretty old.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Okay, so it's pretty So it's not getting active software updates? Yeah, okay,
So so if it's not, that's ten point six point eight.
Oh wow, it's like snow Leopard. That's yeah, that's a
while ago. So if it's not getting any new updates,
what I would do is I personally just go you know,
number one, I'd probably start figuring out what the system,
what the situation is for a new machine at some point,

(01:07:26):
you know, budget whatever you need to do to get that.
But to get this thing to work again, I would
probably what I would do is just reinstall the operating
system the whole thing. Because this is an old computer anyway,
It's got a lot of little fragments and things on it,
so you can reinstall the entire operating system. That's probably
what I would do first. If you can't do that,

(01:07:47):
or you don't want to do that, I would probably
look through and get rid of any programs on this
computer that I don't recognize, don't need, don't know, restart it.
I would go into the login on the system settings
and see if there's anything in the login items that
are launching at startup. And that's probably the first thing
I would do, is look in that login items and

(01:08:09):
see if there's anything that's launching with the startup of
this computer. And that could be some sort of program
that's just not agreeing with it, and you can unclick
those and then of course restart your computer there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
And then you know, obviously you can't do the updates.
You can't do that, but if.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
You're really a little bit more tech savvy, you can
start this thing up in like safe mode and see
if there's anything in there that you can delete or
get rid of. But I would personally just try to
get rid of anything on this computer that you don't need,
don't use, don't want, and then restart it and keep
doing those actions until this cleans itself up. And if
it doesn't, then you might have to take it to

(01:08:47):
some sort of like Mac place for them to take
a look at this a little bit more closely. But
good question, Diego. That is a frustrating issue to have.
But I think if you get rid of stuff on
that computer, hopefully that should work. There's another I like
called clean my Mac that might be a good thing
which you can run on there as well get rid
of some of the gunk that's uh clogging up that

(01:09:08):
old old computer. Eighty eight rich one O one eight
eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.
I'll tell you how Google flights is going cheap coming up,
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What?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
What like around the multiverse? You know the healing? What
does that mean?

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I don't have weapons.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
So wow, Okay, everybody's like twin rays.

Speaker 7 (01:11:47):
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Okay, well I like the idea of this. So what
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It's very peaceful. It sounds like in your multi diverse
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But and you're blogging every day. It looks like I'm
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and then he quit and my sister helped me. She
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and then stopped with that. But they started not talking
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Well, all I know about the Mormons right now is
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Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
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All right. Well, don thanks for the suggestion. I'll take
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You're prolific writer on that site, and I like your
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That's a that's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
So thanks for the call today, and do appreciate you
listening to me, even if I don't understand everything you
were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I you know, I I got, I got, I get
the gist.

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Although flights were a lot cheaper back then than they
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You type in where you want to go, departure dates
if you want, if you want to get that specific
or just look at the calendar and see the dates

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in green, and it will tell you those are the
best cheapest days. But if you need to go on
certain days but you want to get there cheaper, there's
now a cheapest tab. This will show you the lowest
airfare options, even if they're less convenient. So personally, you know,
I'm of a certain age and I want to get
there on a direct flight and I don't want a

(01:14:32):
lot of you know, fuss, and so that is what
I prefer. But if you just want and that's not
always the cheapest, If you want the cheapest fair and
maybe you have some extra time, maybe you don't care
if you need a layover, Maybe you don't care if
you fly to one airport and drive out of another.
Maybe you don't care about the third party booking site.
These are all the expanded options that the cheapest tab

(01:14:54):
takes into effect. Because most people you know, with with
with these search engines, they want the best fare and
the you know, the the easiest kind of a combination
of convenience and fair. But this is like, no, you
want cheapest, we will find you the absolute cheapest. So
this might include a longer layover, this could include multiple airlines,
It couldn't could include something. It's called a self transfer.

(01:15:15):
I've never even heard of this until I read about
this with Google. A self transfer works like this. You
fly one airline to a city. As you're connecting city,
you collect your luggage, and then you check in at
another airline to connect continue your flight. I mean, and
those are not you know, they're not sort of like
connected on your ticket. It's just like you booked them all.

(01:15:37):
That's that's a wild way to go, but that's another
way to do it anyway. So if you're looking for this,
if you want cheap, just look on Google Flights and
check out the new cheapest tab. It is rolling out,
so it may not be on there right away. It
was not on there the last couple of times I
tried searching on there, which is pretty much every day.
But if you're looking for the cheapest, absolute cheapest way

(01:15:59):
to go. Oh and by the way, Google did throw
in that right now is the cheapest time to book
or the best time to book holiday flights, so that
is right now in October. All right, there you go, cheapest.
Let's see what else do we have here. We got
so many emails from people. Let's see rich from New Jersey. Wait,
is this me writing in What's What's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Here? Am I in? Am I in the Don's multiverse?
Right now? I am coming from the future?

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Rich?

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
No, I'm just kidding. This is not me, Rich, Rich
here we go?

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Rich from New Jersey commented that he loves the show,
writes in Hey, Rich, I have the great LG seventy
seven inch TV with the Sonos Arc, the large subwoofer,
and two so nos one rear speakers. When I bought
all this, the salesperson never told me I wouldn't get
at most with the ones. I found out I'd need
the Sons fives for true at most. This really upsets

(01:16:53):
me because I spent a lot of money. So my
question is do I spend another thousand dollars to get
the fives or is it not worth it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
What? I not that big of a difference. I'm considering
just staying with the surround sound.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
What are your thoughts? Thanks and love your show. Well, Rich,
here's the deal. You've got the ones. How much are
those Sonos ones are?

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:17:13):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Two?

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Okay? Two pack is six hundred bucks. So two pack
is six hundred bucks and you need the fives? For
one thousand dollars, So maybe you sell the ones and
just upgrade for the extra, you know, five hundred bucks,
whatever it's gonna be. If you want the Dolbie Atmost,
you've already gotten this far.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
I don't know if you need the Dolby Atmost, but
it is definitely People who have it love It is
a very popular sound format. And if you're not familiar
with what Atmost is, if you're familiar with regular surround sound,
it's just stuff that's sort of like left and right right.
At Most adds that sort of overhead and three D

(01:17:54):
world around you. It's almost like basically spatial audio. So
let's say there's like a helicopter to you might hear
it left or right, you know, in the movie theater,
this would be hear the helicopter coming from like the
back left to the front, back right to the front left,
so it flies over you and Dobey Utmost would give
you that, and so it's more realistic. It's kind of

(01:18:16):
like it envelopes you in the sound. And I think
that because you've already got rich sounds like you like
nice stuff. You've got that nice LGTV that's big you've
got the son nos ark, you've got the subwoofer, and
you've got the sons rear.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
I think I'm thinking you want to upgrade, but I
know you said maybe not, just stick with the sround,
but I don't know. I have just regular surround sound
seems to be fine. But if you want to get that,
then you know I would go for it. Go for it, Richard,
you deserve it if you work hard.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Eric from a Bismarck, North Carolina, North Dakota, listens on
Apple podcasts. He writes in hey, rich do you have
a recommendation for the best USB cable to use car
play with my iPhone pro Mac sixteen. I have a
twenty eighteen niece on Rogue with USBA. I'm looking for
a USBA to USBC. Many cables I've tried caused my
vehicle to lose connection randomly or produce static. I prefer

(01:19:10):
a straight cable if possible, but I'm open to using
an adapter. I enjoy your show. I listen to the
podcast almost every week. Thank you, Eric, Do not use
an adapter that will probably cause more problems. I noticed
this with my wife's car when we got the new
iPhone for her, she had an issue with the USBC
with her CarPlay. I think that a lot of times

(01:19:30):
these systems were not really they were engineered for one thing,
and now we're kind of back ending in backing in
some other things. So I did take about three tries
with cables before I found when that worked with hers perfectly.
So obviously the if Apple has an official cable on
their website, that's probably a good way. That's going to
be the most expensive. But I would just go on

(01:19:52):
Amazon and search for an anchor cable and get that
USB USBA to USB C and also check to make
sure that you're the USB A connection on the car
is not loose, like if that thing is coming out
like it moves left right up down, because it's like
an older car, maybe you've plugged in so many times,
so if that's loose, I would bring it in to
get that kind of tightened up. That could be causing

(01:20:13):
it as well. But I think any any high quality cable,
that's the main thing. It's got to be a high
quality cable. So if you're buying one for a dollar
at the checkout at the convenience store, probably won't work
as well. I mean it may, but it just may
not with the newer cars. Sure, it's all, it's all
pretty simple, but the older cars. For some reason, when
this new iPhone came out with USBC from USBA, it

(01:20:35):
got a little bit, you know, that connection just seems
a little bit more finicky than the standard USBC to
USBC or USBA to lightning.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Good question.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Thanks for emailing in, Eric from Bismarck, North Dakota, appreciate.
Listen to the podcast out there. Rich on tech dot
tv is the website. If you want to send me
an email. The phone number is eighty to eight rich
one on one eight eight eight seven four to two
four one zero one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Uh the FCC making it easier to cancel subscriptions.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
I'll explain coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Shanna's in Long Beach, California. Shanna, you're on with Rich
Oh Hi hi, hi, So at work.

Speaker 8 (01:21:23):
I have a work iPhone and I was wondering, I
know they tracked me and stuff. Not that I care.

Speaker 7 (01:21:28):
I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 8 (01:21:29):
Wrong, but I'm just curious if what what's the tracking
app that they use for? Like, and they're there, they
can get into my phone, calls and text messages and
emails and stuff like that. But like, is there like
an app on my phone that I can see that
they use to track me?

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Well, how do you know they can get into all
this stuff that they.

Speaker 7 (01:21:48):
Told you this, No, it's just kind of obvious.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Well, okay, I don't think it's that obvious because typically,
especially on the iPhone, they are they are very much
locked down to vice. Now, if it is a company
issued device, they of course reserve the right to basically
track anything that you do on that phone, but with
respect to getting access to your messages and things like that,
they don't typically have that. Now your emails, of course,

(01:22:16):
but let me I mean, so, the main way that
companies can track you on your iPhone specifically, this is
iPhone specific. Android obviously much easier because it's a different
operating system and there's things that they can do on
there that they can't do on the iPhone. But there's
typically what's called a VPN or an MDM profile. So
this is this is a little app that they can

(01:22:37):
have or a profile on your phone that basically gives
them more access than typically allowed. So if you want
to look for that on your phone, you can go
into settings are you on iOS eighteen or before that?

Speaker 7 (01:22:51):
Oh it's an old phone. It's an iPhone five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Oh my gosh, that's a that's a security risk in itself.
That is I iPhone five. Wait a second, what kind
of what?

Speaker 11 (01:23:01):
What?

Speaker 8 (01:23:03):
And it still works, it's still fast and takes the updates.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
I don't see how there's no updates for the iPhone
five anymore. Oh hold on, let me let me see
what's going on. Hold on, let me see end of
iPhone five. Hold on, let me see. I'm looking up
the end of life date on this. Okay, iPhone five,
it's not even on my list. Oh there it is, Okay,
iPhone five. This is a twelve year old phone September

(01:23:30):
twenty first, twenty twelve, and it is eleven years ago.
They stopped making it and then the software updates ended
five years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
What kind of company is this? Why are they giving
you such an old phone?

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:23:47):
No, it's it's a home health agency. I'm a registered nurse.
I do home health, and I mean, if it works,
I don't you know, there's no reason for them to buy,
you know, new phone for all the nurses.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Okay, interesting, all right, Well, so the main place to
look is general, is settings General, and then there's something
that says VPN and device management. So if you go
into there and there is a profile for your company,
that's where they're tracking you. And so that's the little piece,
the key piece of information that gives them the ability
to track you in general. Like I always tell people,

(01:24:21):
if you're using a company device, yes, they are probably
tracking you in some sort of way. If you're on
your company Wi Fi at work, yes, they're tracking you
in some sort of way. If you're driving a company car, yes,
they're tracking you in some sort of way. If you're
using company email, yes, they are tracking you in some
sort of way. Now AI makes this stuff a whole
lot easier because they're not necessarily looking at your phone

(01:24:43):
or looking at your email, but they're using management software
on the back end that will maybe alert them to
Let's say you're a home health nurse and you know
you go to the same five houses every day every week.
All of a sudden, you start spending a lot of
time in a different location. There is software that may
tell hold on, you may want to look into this,
and we're noticing that there's a variation in the pattern

(01:25:06):
and so that's really what these things are looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
When it comes to email and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
They're looking for maybe keywords that you're talking about, you know,
company secrets, whatever. But this, this is what these these
software programs are doing. They're looking for things in a
smart way. They're not just looking at every single thing
you do. I mean they are, but it's a computer
most of the time, and if it needs to kind
of kick that up to the bosses, then it will say, hey,
you may want to review these five things or this

(01:25:32):
website that this person keeps visiting or something like that.
But in general, I would always just you know, be
aware of that, especially if you're using a work VPN,
especially if you're using a work issued computer. There are
programs specifically on computers that they can pretty much watch
your entire screen.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Ask your kids they use them at school. Most of
the schools have.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
This screen monitoring software built in where literally they can
replay anything that happens on that screen any time, so
that they you know, if a kid is sending a
text or something through there, or an email they write it,
they can just call up that screen later on and
see exactly what they did and what they said. So
this stuff happens, it's there, it's real, and you just

(01:26:13):
have to be aware your your privacy is not your
privacy when you're using a work device.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Good question, Shanna. Thanks for the call today from Long Beach.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Coming up, we are going to talk about an app
speaking of privacy called Permission Slip.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
It's from Consumer.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Reports and we're going to talk all about that coming
up right here on Rich on Tech. All right. Joining
me now is Suki Galotti, Gilbert product manager for Permission Slip.
This is an app from Consumer Reports that helps you
reclaim your privacy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Suki, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Hi, Rich, Thanks for.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Having me, so thanks for being here. Tell me, first off,
what permission Slip is all about.

Speaker 12 (01:26:56):
Permission Slip is all about making it easy to exercise
your right to digital privacy by submitting data rights requests
to companies on your behalf. So what that means is
we tell companies to stop selling your personal information or
to delete it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
And so this, i imagine is something that's like very
deep inside their terms and conditions or something like that.
When you hand over your phone number or email and say,
by the way, you can tell us not to sell this,
but nobody ever does.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:27:23):
So this is, you know, so important because every search, click,
and tap you make online it's tracked by these companies,
and submitting these requests is one of the very few
things consumers have the power to do in the face
of that. But as you mentioned, when we did research,
we found that the links to exercise these rights are
hidden deep in the privacy policies and they can be
quite time consuming to find.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
And so, what kind of like what kind of companies
do you work with with this app? I mean, I
know you don't well, I don't know do you work
with them or do you like just you've figured out
like how to delete the data from all these companies,
and like, explain to me how it works, Like I
sign up on the app.

Speaker 12 (01:27:58):
And then what yes, So the way it works is
we send what's called data rights request to these companies.
Privacy law in the United States it's a big patchwork
of it, and some states guarantee you the right to
ask that companies stop selling or delete your data. But
as you mentioned, exercising this right is difficult, and even

(01:28:18):
a step before exercising that right, there's this question you asked, Right,
who do I tell this to? So Permission Slip has
two sets of companies on the app, consumer facing companies
and the data brokers. I'm going to talk about data
brokers a little bit because these are companies who you
don't know, but they know you. They know your address,
they know your family, they know your voting registration records,

(01:28:41):
and they sell all of that data for profit. So
what Consumer Reports does is we talk to experts and
we survey state data broker registries to get a list
of the worst offenders and to understand which data brokers
own other data brokers and put together Right now we
have a list of over one hundred. We're constantly revisiting

(01:29:01):
it and working to expand it. And we tell these
companies that you want them to stop selling your data
and to ask that they delete your data.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Oh wow, okay, so and so now I know you
have a new like a plus version like that. So
permission Slip at its core is free. You can do
all this, like a lot of these things for free.
But now I know you have this new plus version,
So explain what do I get with the plus? Is
that the data broker stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:29:28):
Absolutely, So the short answer is that Permission Slip saves
you time and permission Slip Plus saves you even more time,
so the process to send a data rights request.

Speaker 9 (01:29:38):
Can can be involved.

Speaker 12 (01:29:41):
And so what permission Slip as its core free tier
does is we've gone to all these websites for you,
both consumer facing companies like home depot or ticketmaster as
well as data brokers whose names you might not know,
and we've gone to the website and we've extracted the
link so that you can send those requests by yourself
in one tap, and in many cases, even on the

(01:30:03):
free tier, we actually will send them for you. So
if you download the apps, some of these companies have
a lightning bolt by them and those are ones that
will you know, we will will put we have our
team of data data concierges sending these sending these requests
on your behalf, even on the free tier, but on
the Plus tier, we will give you a much more

(01:30:23):
powerful automation and more human support to send out requests
to over one hundred data brokers within minutes. So it
can save you really hours of effort. Because even with
all the work permission slip has done to get it
to be just one tap to send these requests, it's
still it's still a lot of time to send them
out one by one, and so we have collected a

(01:30:44):
list of over one hundred data brokers, and once you
subscribe for Plus, we'll we'll send those requests out. Our
data con search team will monitor them, monitor for them,
monitor them for you, and work behind the scenes to
get as many of those fulfilled as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
But just to be clear, if I you know, I
don't need to sign up for Plus to get some
benefits out of this app, because this app has been
around for a long time before you introduce the Plus feature.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
Absolutely so.

Speaker 12 (01:31:08):
Permission slip is something that Consumer Reports built because we
believe privacy is a fundamental right. And so when you downloaded,
you can immediately put us to work to be sending
privacy requests for you on the free tier as well.

Speaker 9 (01:31:22):
You'll just save more time if you send it for Plus.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Okay, now, what kind of information are we talking about?
What kind of personal information? Like do I have to
put in like my social or anything like that to
ask for them to take it down?

Speaker 8 (01:31:35):
You do not have to put in.

Speaker 12 (01:31:36):
Your social So we send we ask for your phone number,
your address, and your email address. The reason that we
ask for this information is because that is sort of
the minimal set of information. A lot of these companies
need to identify you within their records so that they
can delete you. And we're always we practice the principle

(01:31:56):
of data minimization, so we collect as little data from
you as we can to ensure that these requests get
fulfilled as effectively as possible. But in terms of what
data these companies have about you, they absolutely could have
you know your social Security number, your address, your purchase history,
so that the data that they have can get can
get quite invasive and intimate. But the data that we

(01:32:18):
ask from you is for the purpose of them identifying
you so they can they can delete it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Got it?

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
And then what's the benefit? How successful are you in
these requests? And then what's the benefit of having less
information about me out there? Great questions like why would
I want not want ticket Master to be sharing my
data or whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
You know, explain that aspect absolutely so.

Speaker 12 (01:32:42):
There are so many reasons that it is beneficial to
have less of your data out there. The first, of course,
is just you know, if you're someone who believes in
privacy as a principle, there's principled reasons too, But a
lot of those it's election season. A lot of those
texts that you're getting from campaigns are because a data
broker sold your phone number to a research group. That

(01:33:03):
data breaches, which become more frequent, can have your financial
data much more likely if it has been sold by
one company to another. Of course, all kinds of marketing
that you don't want can can hit your doorstep by.

Speaker 9 (01:33:17):
Your address being sold.

Speaker 12 (01:33:19):
So really concretely, you know a lot of these spam
techs and emails that flood your phone and inbox are
because your data has been sold or exchanged. And there's
also much more insidious and kind of inscrutable ways that
your your data is propagated that can result in all
kinds of you know, little marketing efforts or invasions of

(01:33:40):
privacy that you might not even be fully aware of
on the day to day.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
And it's interesting because the thing I get to kick
back sometimes or the pushback people will be like, hey,
you know, like I'm not doing anything wrong. I don't
really care if my information's out there. At the very least,
you may spend less money because you're being marketed to
less and like that's at like the very least, right,
And if all the other bad stuff is not a problem,
Like you might just spend less money because they're not

(01:34:04):
as good at getting you, you know, sold on on
products and services.

Speaker 9 (01:34:09):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 12 (01:34:10):
It's you know, it's not necessarily that you're doing something
you don't want people to know about. But I think
it's about the presumption by which you're kind of going
through the world. Is the presumption that you're an open
book for people to take what they know about you
and use it to advance their own interests or do
you want to be in control of what you're sharing
with who, when and why?

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
So do you think companies like literally you said they
have a list of like purchase history, Like do you
think that that stuff is sold around too? Like I
always wonder that with like my credit card or debit card,
Like is my bank like telling people like what I'm
buying online?

Speaker 12 (01:34:45):
Yeah, I can't, you know, I don't. I can't speak
so specifically whether your bank is, but I but I
can tell you that this purchase history and basically everything
you do is being tracked or sold on some level.
You know, so rewards programs for you examples, many of
those can be bought and sold as information about your
purchase history.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
That's why everyone has a rewards program. It's not to
save me money.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
It's because I'm basically agreeing to Hey, you can have
my entire everything I purchase at Target, everything I purchased
at you know, the grocery store. It's all on this
list that I've somehow said, oh, yeah, you can take
this information and market it as you please.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Yes, a lot of you.

Speaker 12 (01:35:26):
Know, third parties that are offering to operationalize that reward
service for a company. The company might who's running the
reward service might not even know, but that that party
who is running it for them is tracking your purchase
history and selling it.

Speaker 9 (01:35:40):
We also see a lot.

Speaker 12 (01:35:42):
Of you know, different companies that are selling your for example,
your health data to insurance companies, which can result in
changes in your rates. There's been a lot of recent
news around, for example, right twenty three and meters and
the different ways in which your genetic data can be
sold to places that you might not want to see
it sold.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
So scary scary stuff. We're gonna leave it there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Suki Galotti, Gilbert, thank you so much for joining me today.
From Consumer Reports. The website is permission slipcr dot com.
Permission slipcr dot com. Download it, reclaim your data and
reclaim your privacy. Thanks a lot for joining me today,
Thanks for taking time. All right, coming up, we are

(01:36:26):
gonna open up. I could barely drag it in here.
The feedbag it's so big this week, it doesn't even
fit in this room.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
What am I gonna do? Thanks for emailing. We'll have
that in just a moment.

Speaker 11 (01:36:39):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Welcome back to rich on Tech, rich DeMuro here hanging
out with you, talking technology. Want to get through maybe
a couple more stories before I get into the feedbag,
which is overflowing this week. But I want to tell
you about Android's new theft detection theft protection feature. If
you have an Android phone, you have a new security

(01:37:05):
feature called theft detection lock. If someone grabs your phone
out of your hand and tries to run away with it,
or walk away with mostly run or like bike, or
you know, just get away from you quickly, your phone
is now going to use it it's accelerometer to understand
that and say, oh, I think something bad is happening here.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
I'm gonna lock down this device. But it is not
turned on by default, so you have to turn this on.
So what I want you to do.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
If you have an Android phone running I believe it's
Android ten and up, which is most modern phones, go
into Settings, then search, look for Google, and then tap
all Services and then you'll see theft protection and then
toggle on theft detection lock. So again, got settings, Google

(01:37:55):
All Services. It's you'll see theft protection and toggle on
theft detection in luck, I've got those instructions on my
newsletter this week.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
So go to the website Rich on tech dot TV.
Hit the newsletter.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
It's the one that says theft protection on it, and
turn that on for sure if someone ever grabs your phone.
I thought about this, you know the other We talked
about this a while ago. Anyway, iPhone users also have
a feature called Stolen Device Protection. So it's not the same,
but it's similar, and so you can use that to
protect your device as well. So if you're an iPhone user,
you probably want to enable that too. All right, let's

(01:38:29):
open up the feedback. We've got a lot. First email
from Gary in Orange, Connecticut says Rich, thanks for all
you do.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
I love the show. I look forward to the newsletters.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
I've got my why security cameras set to send an
alert to my phone when they detect motion, but the
notification is just a normal one time tone. Is there
a way to set up a notification that will continue
to ring until I disarm it, similar to a regular alarm?

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Gary?

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
I assumed Gary was using an Android, but you know,
I emailed him back and said, hey, are using Android
or iPhone? But I just told them the solutions. But
for Android, you can do a lot with your notifications
pretty much anything you want. iPhone not so much. But
for Android, I've recommended two apps. First is called Buzzkill
b u zz ki ll that will give you a

(01:39:16):
lot of a lot of you know, you could do
a lot with your notifications basically anything you want with them.
And then the other one I like is called Glimpse Notifications,
and that's the one I used on my Samsung device
when I wanted d screen to light up when I
got a notification, And so that's there. On iPhone, i'd
probably recommend just making like a really uploading your own

(01:39:37):
ring tone that's really long and that will just keep
going for like, I don't know, I don't know what
the maximum ringtone sound is on an iPhone, but that's
what I would do if you're on iPhone and Gary
did follow up and say, let you know I installed
buzzkill you recommended, did exactly what I needed to do.
It was extremely easy to set up. Thanks for your
personal response. It's great to have a resource. Thank you Gary.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
All right, do rites in.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
I continue to be amazed that the amount, variety and
detail of information you provide. This week was particularly interesting
had the massive AT and T Direct TV dish announcement
massive outage involving AT and T oh this must have
been from a couple weeks ago. My personal laptop malfunction,
which was like catching fog to fix a plant power
outage that affected my home tech setup. The Bank of

(01:40:21):
America glitch affected our church accounts. It's like trying to
drive at sixty five when everyone else is at ninety
and weaving between lanes. There's no way to totally exist
disconnected from this glitching world. Keep doing what you're doing. Rich,
we all need you. Thanks Jim from Hollywood Hills Rights
in Hey, Rich, I just remembered Henry Radio on Olympic
Boulevard in West Los Angeles. Mostly hamgear, but a good

(01:40:42):
source for large air insulated variable capacitors intended for high
power transmitter final tuning. Also good for Tesla coils. There's
also Federated Electronics sort of like a Best Buy, but
mostly TVs and high five gear. I still have my
loud speaker system in my home and I don't need
a sub. It has two huge oiled walnut enclosures with

(01:41:03):
twelve inch passive radiator instead of adducted port. You're no
Leola Port, no better or worse, just different. I listen
to your show whenever I have the free time. Nowadays,
computers are just a tool for me, not a toy.
So enjoy hearing the sorts of problems other have the solutions.
Saves me a lot of time having to search on
the internet. Thanks Jim from Hollywood Hills. I lived near

(01:41:23):
the Henry Radio on Olympic Boulevard and I passed it
ten thousand times in my life. I never knew that
that was an actual radio store. Interesting, Rudy, let's see here, Okay,
let's go. Mike oh also wrote in Mike from Atlanta, Georgia.
He says, I remember going to ad raise for Electronics
and Van Eyes. I loved it and Rogers Sound in

(01:41:45):
Canoga Park. Bill from Cleveland says, Hey, great show.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Rich.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
You mentioned quite often the latest data stealing scams, apps
and sites, but at the same time you tend to
recommend products such as any Google product as a solution.
Recently you spoke about alternatives to Verise and Plus and
recommended Google Voice. Google products are aimed squarely at sucking
up as much data as possible. We live in a
world where we have almost no privacy, so the little
we do have we should probably protect. Love the show,

(01:42:11):
and it'd be great to recommend more privacy centered solutions
in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Bill, Thanks for that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
I actually recommended Google Messages, not Google Voice, but I
also like Google Voice.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
Look, I do think I talk about privacy a lot
and recommend that. But you gotta you know, if you're
not paying for something, you are the product, and so
you just have to understand that with some of these
Google things. But I do I think I put a
fair amount of work into the privacy stuff. Uh Don
writes in thanks for the overview on budgeting apps. I
paid for a year of Monarch money, but it can't

(01:42:40):
connect to my regional bank, so it lost its ability
to connect to two investment accounts, which pretty much makes
the service useless to me, so I won't be renewing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Empower's been pretty good, and.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
As a Fidelity customer, I'm using the full View program now,
which I didn't know existed until you mentioned it. I
think the edge goes to Empower because it links to
more accounts and can pull in a zilo estimate automatic
rather than having to enter it manually in full View.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Keep up the great work.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
James from Inverness, who listens on WXJB, says thanks so much.
I listen to your program every week and enjoy it.
When I can't listen live, I definitely listen to your
podcast and oh we got more. Andrew from San Diego
listens on the radio AM six forty on Saturday and
six hundred on Sunday in San Diego. Love your radio show.
You're so informative, friendly, easygoing and trustworthy for a novice

(01:43:29):
novice novice like me loved your show about all the
brick and mortar electronics stores that used to exist. And
Stephanie finally writes in hey, Rich, I was able to
shock someone recently with a tip you shared some time ago.
I showed a friend coworker how to exchange phone numbers
with our iPhones. Just by touching the two iPhones together.
He was freaking out. Thanks for all the tips to
keep my back pocket for times like this. And we

(01:43:51):
did get more emails about the electronics stores and things
like that, but I'm gonna have to hold those until
a later date. But apparently you like to talk about
the old days, so do I. That's gonna do it
for this episode of the show. You can find links
to everything I mentioned on my website. Just go to
richon tech dot TV hop on the newsletter. If you're
not there, you can find me on social media. I
am at rich on Tech. Coming up next week, got

(01:44:13):
a cool interview. Patrick O'Neill is going to join us.
He is an entrepreneur. Remember those oloclips, those little lenses
you would attach to your iPhone before they had the
ultra wide lens and all those telephoto lenses built into
the iPhone.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
He invented those. He's going to be here to talk
about his latest creation.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways
you can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending
it right here with me. Thanks to everyone who.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Makes this show possible, including Adam filling in. I'm rich
Timiro talk to you soon.

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