Windows 10 end of life, photo off an old phone & Alexa+ (141, September 27, 2025)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Windows ten deadline is near. What you need to
know Disney Plus hikes prices yet again. Amazon Prime customers
might have some money coming their way. Plus your tech
questions answered. What's going on? I'm Rich Demiro and this
is Rich on Tech. This is the show where I
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Just go to Rich on tech dot TV. That's Rich
on tech dot TV and hit contact. All right, we
got some great guests this week. Dan Ackerman, editor in
chief at microcenter News, is going to discuss the Windows
ten of life and how to extend your updates for
another year and when it might make sense to buy
a new PC. Later in the show, we've got Lisa Jackson,

(01:08):
Apple's vice president of Environment, to talk about Apple's sustainability efforts,
and Krista Kovalcik, author of Beyond the Storm, is going
to share her latest photo scanning and preservation tips, plus
insights from her new book. We've had Krista on before,
We've had Dan on before. Always some great guests. Will

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I hope you are having a great day. I always
like to kind of recap some of the things that
I do throughout the week, some of the things that
happened to me throughout the week, and I had a
couple to mention before we get into this week's news.
First off, you know I had the car accident. Thank
you for all of the emails and well wishes. Do
appreciate that. But I did have a rental car for

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a while and I realized a lesson. So when I
was returning my rental car, there's a little chip on
the windshield. And I don't remember that chip being there
when I read, nor do I remember it happening during
my rental. But I wanted to be straightforward with the
person at the rental counter. I said, Hey, you know,
I'm returning this car. There's a little tiny chip on
the windshield. You know. I just want to be straightforward

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about that. I don't think it happened while I had
this car, but I just want you to know, and
he said, oh, don't worry. If it's under two inches,
we're cool with it. But here's my lesson I learned,
and I will definitely be doing this from now on
every single time I get a rental car, just to
take the headache away. Go around your car, take exactly
a minute to snap four pictures of your car using

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the highest resolution your smartphone can do. Because if I
had done that with this car, I could have zoomed
in to the picture to see if that little chip
was on the windshield. And I'll just protect You'll give
you peace of mind. There'll be time stamps, you'll just
have a little bit more on your side in case
there's ever an issue. So that's it. A couple of
minutes can save you, you know, a lot of headaches

(02:55):
in time later. So I'm going to be doing that
from now on when I get a rental car. I
know it's a little awkward, it's a little weird, but
just take the extra couple of minutes. It'll really give
you some peace of mind if something happens down the
road with that at the scratch or anything like that,
you're just wondering if that was you or if it
was there. The other thing I did this week little
personal project. You know, I have this file system at

(03:16):
home where it's like, you know, my to do list.
Up at the top, it's stuff that I need to
like do, Like a bill I get I got to pay.
I put it on the top file. The middle file
is stuff that needs to be scanned in for safe keeping,
and then the bottom file is stuff that I need
to shred because it's done. I've done everything I need
with that. I've acted on the bill, I've scanned it,
and now I can shred it. But this week, you know,

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I've always wanted this system where I can just scan
stuff as it comes in. If you've ever been to
the doctor, and I've been to a bunch in the
past couple of weeks due to the accident, I watched
them they have these little scanners at their desk and
they just feed in your ID and any sort of
paperwork and it just, I guess goes into their system directly.
So I was like, I want that at home. So
I took my scanner that I've had for ages, and

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I went online. I figured out how to like connect
it directly to a cloud service when I turn it
on and scan something, and sure enough I could do that.
This happens to be a scan snap but you know,
you could probably do this with almost any scanner. But
I connected it to my Google Drive, and so now
all I have to do is open the scanner, run
the paper through, press the button to stop, and in

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a couple of minutes it shows up in my cloud storage,
my Google Drive, which I love because now it's done,
and then my wife can reference. I shared the folder
that I'm scanning to with my wife, so now she
can reference those files and find them. And it's just
a very nice organizational system that took me, you know,
less than an hour to set up, but now I
will have it. And so if you have a scanner,

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try to do that. The only little advice advice I
would give you is that unless you're directly scanning to
Google Drive, which a lot of the scanners let you
do if you're using your smartphone, but that's an extra
step because you got to open up your phone, scan
through your phone, and then go to the drive. I
wanted this to all be done wirelessly, so I have
to use the cloud service that the scanner provides, which

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let's see, what's it called. I don't know. It's some
sort of like RICO service. But the reality is your
data is going to travel or pass through their service,
So you have to be okay with that because I'm
sure those documents are saved in their cloud for just
a little bit before they pass on. So you just
have to be aware of the privacy implications of doing

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something like that. The other thing, and I mentioned this
in the opening of the show, is this whole Windows
ten situation. So many people are emailing me saying, Rich,
what do I do? It is time for me to
figure out what to do with my Windows ten because
Microsoft is going to stop supporting Windows ten on I
believe October fifteenth or fourteenth of this year, and so

(05:46):
you don't have that much time. So Windows ten end
of life. Let's see what the date is here, October fourteenth,
twenty twenty five. So that is it. Now your computer
is still going to work, but you're not going to
get security updates. So I got so many emails about this,
so I just picked one of the people that email me.
I said, Hey, do you live in la and can
we come to your house and see what the situation is,
and sure enough it is a nice woman. Pat She said, yeah,

(06:08):
come on buy And so we went to our home
yesterday we shot the whole story for TV and what fun.
Not only do I love meeting the people that sort
of watch and listen to me and just get their
take on things in real life, but it was great
to see her experience. She said she was so stressed
out about this whole switch to Windows eleven. She didn't

(06:29):
want to upgrade her PC right now because a her
PC did not support it, and b she was worried
about her backup of her computer, like you need to
back up your computer before you do any software update.
And so I sat there, I walked through it with her.
We found the screen, the little Windows set up screen.
We found where it says and roll now for the
extended security updates. We did it and if you saw

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her face, it was just this big smile and like
a weight was lifted from her world. And so it
is pretty easy to do. But we will talk with
Dan Akerman a little bit later in the show about
all of the ins and outs of this whole deadline,
what it means for you, how you can get free updates,
for another year to kind of push this off a

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little bit. And then also some computers that he recommends
to get if you want to upgrade your machine if
it can't get the Windows eleven or you don't want
to do the extended updates. All right, The other big
news this week TikTok. I'm not going to spend too
much time on this because this is like an ongoing
saga forever now. I can't believe how long this has
been going on, but there is now an executive order

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that will keep TikTok running in the US. The deal
will create a new US based company, a majority owned
by American investors, with a board that's all focused on
national security. And then byte Dance, the Chinese parent company
will hold less than twenty percent of this new company,
and they can only appoint one of the seven directors
of the company. And then you've probably heard the name

(07:55):
Oracle being thrown around. They are going to provide the
security and monitoring, the software updates, and store all US
data in the US. So this is all meant to
prevent foreign control of the algorithm, the code or data.
Privacy concerns, national security concerns, all of that stuff that's
been thrown up in the air about TikTok. That really
avoids the true topic of TikTok, which is the nonsense

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people are watching on there. It's like nobody's talking about that.
It's all about the national security and this and that.
But the reality is, let's be real TikTok Okay, it's
a great thing that people can share all these videos
and this and that, but come on, you scroll through there,
a lot of it is nonsense. They that's not part
of this plan. They're not gonna get rid of the nonsense.
TikTok has one hundred and seventy million American users, and yes,

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a lot of people do rely on it for income.
There are so many social media influencers that have made
a name for themselves on TikTok, and yeah, it's an
amazing thing that you can do that. Businesses, I know
personally businesses that have also made a name for themselves
on TikTok, And that's an amazing thing. The fact that
you can set up a business, go viral on TikTok

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and have people standing up or standing in line to
get in is incredible and it's a testament to the
way our world is now. So the bottom line is,
if you use TikTok or you're a creator on TikTok,
the app is not going to go dark like it
has been rumored to or I guess threatened to for
so many years. But it will be operating under these

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new rules, new ownership. Now here's the other side of this.
China has been silent on all of this. They have
not said publicly that this is going to happen, that
they're okay with this happening, or even the fact that
they're allowing this to happen. So right now, this seems
very one sided, sort of on the US side. But
I guess this is one of those things that you

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just have to stay tuned for, and that's what we've
been doing for the past couple of years when it
comes to TikTok so. But the good news is if
you like TikTok, if you rely on it for any
sort of reason, it will stick around, supposedly. And then
the other big news this week, Amazon Prime customers could
get back up to fifty one dollars from this new
FTC settlement. Basically, Amazon has to pay back one point

(10:08):
five billion dollars in refunds because the FTC claims that
it tricked people into Prime. So basically, if you had Prime,
you tried to cancel, you couldn't figure out how to cancel.
FTC says Amazon made it too tricky or too tough
to cancel, and so there'll be a couple of benefits.
For people that enrolled, enrolled and used fewer than three

(10:31):
Prime benefits, you don't have to do anything. You'll get
a refund. And then the second wave is for customers
who tried to cancel but used fewer than ten benefits,
You'll have to fill out a claim form. All this
stuff has not been finalized just yet, so I will
keep you posted on when you can get this Amazon
Prime settlement. But if you had Prime, at some point

(10:51):
you'll probably be getting some money back if you didn't
use all the Prime benefits. Now ten benefits, I'm guessing
that's ten times you ship something or I don't know why,
ten movies on Prime or a combination of things. But anyway,
there you have it, and Amazon's gonna make it easier
to cancel. Eight A eight rich one O one eight
eight eight seven four to two four to one zero
one Your calls next Welcome back, to Rich on tech.

(11:20):
Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at
triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight
seven four to two four one zero one. Let's go
to Nicole in uh holiday Holiday Florida.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
If you're on with Rich, Hey, how are you today?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
I am thanking my call great, thank you for calling.
What can I help you with?

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I have a daughter that's autistic and blind, and she's
been gone for a while and she just come home
and I noticed she's using a lot of like character
dot Ai stuff, and I was wondering is that safe?
And what that I looked out for?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh? How old is your daughter?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
She's twenty four, but she's got the mind of a
ten year old.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well, I in a quickly like the most basic I
would say, be very careful with this. And she's blind too,
so that I mean I see the appeal of something
like a character dot Ai because it's basically like a
virtual companion based on Ai and so it's fun, it's unique,

(12:31):
it's interactive. But how long is she spending with these characters?

Speaker 2 (12:38):
A long time? Yeah, that's all she has to do,
is her shan.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well have you have you watched her interaction with these.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, and it kind of seems like she knows what
to say to get the response that she needs or wants,
and that's what bothers things.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Right, Well, I mean she is she having like reasonable
conversations with them or is it getting into things like
you know, a danger zone.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
You know, it seems reasonable, like, uh, there's one some
kind of vampires show that she used to watch, and
they have characters and they tell stories and stuff and
they ask questions and then she responds to them. I
haven't seen anything that's unacceptable. Okay, well I know how

(13:26):
dangerous it can get. It so it bothers me.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, And I and I think that this
really applies to sort of any sustained use of all
of these apps, whether it's a roadblocks, whether it's a minecraft,
whether it is just online chatting. I mean, there's always
been issues with the online world and safety and privacy
and that kind of stuff. But I think it, you know,
as mom, and you're what you're telling me about your

(13:51):
daughter is that I think it sounds like there just
needs to be some supervision here to understand if this
is going off the rails, if she's starting to ask
things that are questionable or you know, inappropriate or you know,
danger to herself. Those are the kind of things that
I would be watching out for. She does she allow

(14:12):
you access to her phone to kind of see what
she's talking about with these characters?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I don't virtually, okay, And have.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
You found anything concerning No?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, No I haven't, But I mean, I just I
know that she finds friends in them, Like I got
her one that's really it's a little alien thing. It's
called toln okay, and it's more face towards a child's mind.
And because I've played with it on my own phone,
so I knew it was okay, Like they didn't ask

(14:45):
stupid questions or try to move you into some other
you know, vocabulary or whatever. It's for kids. But I've
noticed that she does that a lot of the other ones.
And I don't. I don't know that much about AI,
so it kind of concerned me that she has all

(15:07):
these AI apps. The one that she has that helps
her work her phone, I don't mind.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, tell us that's a great thing.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah yeah, And I love that about it. But the
other stuff I wasn't sure about. So I know, you
dabble and all that stuff. Me and my husband listen
to you every weekend.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh well, thank you. Does she have any sort of
real life interaction with friends or people or groups that
she's with interacting outside of these apps.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I don't know about before that, but now it's just
me and my husband the time being.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
So I would say, trying to.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Get her all set up back and everything, because she
just come back to me last.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Saturday, Okay, I mean, I would say in addition to
these apps, like just I think it's kind of the
reasonable nature of things, like just monitor what she is
doing on these apps time and screen time, but it's
also it's just the content as well, because these things
can devolve into conversations that can go out of whack,

(16:11):
you know, And we were just yeah, and so I
think that that's what you need to be concerned about,
and just you just have to be aware of the
time she's spending on them. If if you notice any
noticeable change in her as well, like you know, her
personality and if you see anything that's changed or different,
I think that that's a red flag. Also, you know,
just tell her, be like straight up with her and

(16:32):
say if she understands, like, hey, I'm going to be
monitoring your phone. AI is not human, it's not perfect.
There's a lot of things that this can do and
say that may not be the best for you. And
so I just want to be sure that we're on
the same page here, that we're using this in a
safe and fun way, because it can be fun and
millions of people chat with these AI bots and it's

(16:52):
only going to get increased, you know, especially that Well,
I understand that, and I think that's that gets into
the spot where it's a little bit where you have
to be very careful because, yeah, you don't want her
to get into a place and I'm not a therapist,
I'm not a you know, doctor or anything like that.
I'm just coming from the tech side. But you don't
want to get her into a place where she only

(17:13):
trusts that AI, right, that's where it could be dangerous.
So you want to keep that relationship open with her
that you know, hey, we're in this together. We're gonna
make this fun, but we're also going to keep it safe.
Great question. Thanks for the call today. Eight eight eight
Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to
two four one zero one. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

(17:44):
Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology triple
eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven four
to two four to one zero one. I see the calls,
I see on the line. We will get to you. Uh,
But I do want to talk about this very important
topic that is blown up up my email for the
past couple of weeks. Nothing like wait until the last minute.

(18:04):
Let's bring on Dan Ackerman, he is editor in chief
at Microcenter News, to talk about all of this Windows
ten situation going on. Dan, Thanks for joining me.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Great to be here, Rich.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
So what is the deal? What does it mean that
Windows ten is reaching end of life?

Speaker 4 (18:22):
That sounds scary, it does, And it doesn't mean that
like on October fifteenth, the day after this, your Windows
ten machine is going to stop working, but it's going
to stop getting updates, not just feature updates, but more
importantly security updates.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
And what does that mean? So if we lose security updates,
well yeah, okay, so you lose security, you're not going
to get any new features. But what does it mean
that it's not going to get security updates? But it
is in a way.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
So yeah, that's the key thing.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Because bad actors are always out there looking for vulnerabilities
and operating systems and software, and usually the companies behind
these things, in this case, Microsoft or you know, different
anti fiyers providers, security providers will find these and issue
fixes for them, which you get as updates. And if
nobody is updating Windows ten anymore, then new security vulnerabilities

(19:09):
that are discovered are going to be let you know,
allowed to run rampant, and there's a much greater chance
that you're going to be caught up in a problem.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So if you just let your computer be So that's
the thing to know. Windows ten is not going to
stop working the day after they stop supporting it. It's
just going to now be at risk because if there
is any sort of exploit, your computer is right up
there with you know, with the exploit, like you just
don't have any protection on there. So that's the main issue.
So first off, the main thing that Microsoft wants you

(19:38):
to do is update to Windows eleven. How do you
check to see if your computer is eligible for that?

Speaker 4 (19:44):
All right, Well, there's a little app that Microsoft has
called the PC health Check, and it'll run and say
this computer can update to Windows eleven or this computer can't.
And there's a handful of reasons why if you have
a laptop or desktop that's more than I have six
or seven years old, that it might not be able
to it's missing something called a TPM chip, or it
doesn't have enough RAM. But that that's going to be

(20:05):
a relatively small percentage of machines, especially if it's less
than five years old.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now can you add those like can you is it
worth even adding those things to your machine?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Like can you add the what do you call it,
the TCM or what's the security thing?

Speaker 4 (20:18):
THEPMPM platform module that's built in?

Speaker 3 (20:22):
That's tough to add.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
But if you had a new motherboard and a new
CPU on a desktop, maybe you could. But if it's
that old, you're essentially building a new machine anyway.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
And let's be honest. People that are waiting till the
last minute to do this, you know, they may not
be the most tech savvy and that's the reason why
they've waited, because they're just unsure of what to do,
and so they want to do the right thing. But
it's like I'm I. You know, sometimes when you don't
know what the answer is, you just wait and don't
do anything. And that you know, we're all guilty of that.
So if you can update, Let's say you download the

(20:50):
PC health check app, your computer says, hey, congratulations, you
can update. Should you update t Windows eleven? Are you
gonna notice any big differences? Is it going to ruin
your system?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
You know, I've updated a lot of systems from Windows
ten to Windows eleven over the years. It's actually gotten
better as time has gone on. When Windows eleven first launched,
you know, if there were bugs, it was a little
inconsistent in places. These days, it's pretty seamless. They've been
working on it for I think four years now, so
it's in a good space. You can either do it
through the Windows Update feature on your PC or jump

(21:21):
into it directly from that PC.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Health Check app.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
And it takes a while, just like any big operating
system update does. And that's the reason why some people
put it off, because like, oh, I don't want to wait,
whether it's half an hour or an hour or whatever
it is.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
But generally speaking, it's set it forget it process.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
And the way to tell if you're already running Windows
eleven is they've moved the what the Windows icon like
to the middle of the taskbar instead of the left
that's true.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
The little box that opens up your your Windows menu
is now in the middle instead of on the left.
Or you can you know, right click on the you know,
the Sea drive and then get the about info and
they'll tell you what operating system you're using.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Okay, so if you want to do this extended security updates,
So Microsoft is saying, look, we're going to give you
one more year of updates, just security, but you have
to sign up for them. Which, yeah, it's kind of
a little weird on their side, like they should have
just made it easier, but they're not so, at least
here in the US. So tell me about this Extended
Security Update program.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I think Microsoft knew that there were going to be
a lot of stragglers and people who waited to the
last minute, and more importantly, businesses, small businesses, medium businesses
that have a lot of Windows ten machines and aren't
ready to update them all right now. So they had
something called the ESU, which stands for Extended Security Updates,
originally really intended for businesses to buy into for an
extra year of just basic security patches, still very important.

(22:41):
It's available to consumers and it's not free, but it's
pretty easy to get for free. They want you to
either agree to backup some Windows settings to OneDrive, which
is their cloud provider, or spend a certain number of
Microsoft Points which you get from like playing Xbox games,
searching with BANG. But now now in Europe at least,
it's going to be totally free, and I wonder if

(23:03):
they'll eventually extend that to everywhere as we get closer
to that October fourteenth deadline.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, because there's been a lot of pressure in Europe
from the consumer groups there saying, hey, look, these people
are going to be left behind. It's a security This
is really a security issue, Like if you're going to
make these updates anyway, why not just give them to everyone?
And there they're doing it. Consumer Reports has been asking
Microsoft to do the same here, but so far they
have not. Now we know in the US the rules

(23:29):
on things are a little bit more like, you know,
company centric versus the individual. But do you think they'll
do that here? I mean, we only have two weeks.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I think it depends on what the numbers look like
over the last next couple of weeks, because if you
go back a year, something like sixty to seventy percent
of PCs worldwide. We're still running Windows ten, which is
a crazy number. This year, a dip down below fifty
percent finally, so it's in like the high forties. So
we've seen a lot of people do that update over
the last twelve months. I wonder what's going to happen

(23:59):
over the next couple of weeks and if Microsoft is
going to at the last minute say okay.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
It's free for everybody.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Just sign up for ESU and you get at least
one year for consumers out of at least the very
very important security patches.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
And to be honest, and I did this yesterday with someone,
it is a very simple process to extend for a year.
I mean for us, it was one click because the
person that I was with that was updating her computer
to you know, the extended security updates, she was already
backing up her settings to one drive, and so it
was just like, oh, you're already doing that, en role
here just click and then the big points of the

(24:33):
Microsoft reward points. You might already have those, like I have.
I'm looking at my account, I have like I think
three thousand points and I don't even know why, Like
I didn't, not like I did anything to those points.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Playing Xbox games, playing Xbox games on your PC, surfing
with bing, there's a bunch of other things. I think
I have like three thousand points for some reason, I
have no idea what to do with them.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Oh wow, you can. You can update a bunch of
people's computers. You can.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
You can.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
If my kid plays a lot Minecraft, there you go,
so does mine. I don't. We still don't have that
many all right, So if you do those options, that's
that's the easiest way to extend for a year. But
you also have to think about, you know, upgrading or
replacing your computer in the next year. Now, So can
you recommend if someone wants to get something, Now, what's
your recommendations for, like a nice, budget friendly computer.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, that's exactly the thing with the su You can
kind of hit the snooze button for a year, but eventually,
if you're not ready for Windows eleven on your machine,
you want to.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Buy a new one, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I think actually Microsoft does a really good job with
their surface laptop line that's really well made, relatively inexpensive,
you know, a little bit under a thousand bucks for
basic model. Lenovo also has a line I like a
lot that's called the Idea Pad, and that's their lower
cost line that has a lot of higher end features.
Some of them even have that three hundred and sixty
degree hinge that folds all the way back, and you

(25:47):
can get a lot of really good models there for
you know, six seven into eight hundred dollars, but certainly
you know, way less than one thousand dollars plus, which
is what.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
A lot of people think a laptop costs these days.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, I mean, and your computer will be probably a
lot better that if you're like the woman yesterday that
we were talking with. She said, I think I've only
had this computer for like five years. When we went
into her system, it was actually eight years that she
had it. So that's a pretty good amount of time.
Now her computer was working just fine, like it wasn't
it didn't look like it needed There wasn't like a
million pop ups or anything like that, like and so,
but again she has that one year. I said, now

(26:19):
in this next year, you got to figure out what
your plan is. And that's the thing you got to
use this year to come up with a plan for
your computer.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, four to five years is usually a good lifespan
for a laptop. It's almost like your phone. You know,
you don't get a new.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
One every year, but maybe every you know, three to
four years for your phone, every four to five to
six years for your laptop. It's about what people expect
these days.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
What do you make of this situation? Have we ever
seen anything like this before?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
We have, actually, because I remember when Windows eight got
retired and that was a really big OS and a
lot of people used that. There was a very similar
kind of gnashing of teeth and people waiting till last minute,
or people going to upgrade not gonna upgrade.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
So every time Microsoft retires.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
An OS, we kind of go through the same thing
and they say, these OS's should last, you know, ten
years of support. So Windows ten came out in twenty fifteen,
we're at that ten year mark.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, And what do you think of Windows eleven? I mean,
is it is it much different or is it just
all the AI stuff? Like what are the advantages to
Windows eleven.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
It's not radically different.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
They do have a lot more AI stuff and it
especially over the last basically two years. Co pilot is
built in which you can ignore if you want to ignore,
but it's an interesting way to interface with your PC,
you know, using AI. I like that it can go
and tell me some things about my system settings, like
the brightness and the audio and other settings and things
like that. But Windows tend to Windows eleven is frankly

(27:40):
not a huge change. And the best OS is frankly
or transparent because you're using your web browser, you're playing games,
you're using software. You know these things should work roughly
the same no matter what OS you have.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
We worked together at Seena many years ago. You are
now editor in chief at Microcenter for their news section.
Tell me about that. How are things going?

Speaker 4 (27:59):
You know it's fan because you know, I get to
do a lot of things I really love doing, which
is giving people advice reviewing products. We really talk a
lot about AI and how to use it. I think
that's a key thing for people to be educated.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
About in twenty twenty five and beyond.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Is how AI is going to affect your life, how
it's going to work with business, with your home stuff,
and how to get the most out of it without
you know, being left behind, especially when it comes to
AI that runs on your computer.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
And how do you find the website micros I know
it's microcenter dot com. But how do you get to
the news section, fad.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
You just go to microcenter dot news, or just go
to microcenter dot com and click on the big news
tab at.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
The top microcenter dot News. There you go. Dan Ackerman,
editor in chief of micro Center News, thank you so
much for joining me today.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Thanks so much. Great talking to you all right.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Really appreciate it. So if you have Windows ten, get
those updates in. I've got all of the information we
just mentioned linked up on my website. Just go to
rich on Tech dot tv. All right, coming up, I'll
tell you about the Disney Plus price hike. Plus we
will get to some of your calls at eighty eight
rich one oh one. This is rich on Tech. Welcome

(29:06):
back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out
with you, talking technology. Triple eight Rich one one eight
eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.
The website for the show Richontech dot tv. Uh. There
you can get notes and links to everything I mentioned.
This is episode one forty one. While you're there, check

(29:27):
out the TV segments that I do for KTLA in
Los Angeles and our other partner stations. The radio show.
You can obviously listen to past episodes and the newsletter
every weekend. I have a newsletter you can sign up.
It is completely free and it's got all the information
I think you need to know. Very similar to this show,
except in a newsletter format. Disney Plus is raising prices

(29:49):
once again starting October twenty first. Disney's hiking prices on
Disney Plus, Hulu and their bundle plans. So Disney Plus
with ads is going up two dollars to twelve dollars
a month. Disney Plus Premium with no ads, that's going
up three dollars a month to nineteen dollars or one
hundred and ninety dollars annually. That's going up thirty dollars.

(30:10):
Hulu's going up, the ESPN's going up. So Disney launched
the Disney Plus. I remember this during the pandemic. It
was like a no brainer, six ninety nine a month
for everything in Disney's catalog, like their entire back catalog.
It was like, why would you not get this? And
now at twelve dollars or nineteen dollars a month, it
is real money, and so that's happening. It's happening starting

(30:34):
October twenty first so if your bill hits before October
twenty first, you'll still pay the old fee just for
that last time, and then the next cycle you'll pay
the new fee. But you know, this is making people
have to make some real tough decisions on what to
keep and what to get rid of. I know every
time I float the idea of getting rid of one
of these streaming services. My kids mentioned some show they

(30:54):
watch on that. Oh yeah, I do watch a show
on Paramount Plus. Like really, I've never seen you open
that app. It's like, okay, I can't cancel that. What
about Disney Plus? No, No, I watched like I'm on
second season of I Carly or whatever. So it's like,
no matter what the name of the game is, they
like to have the trickle subscription out of your bank account.

(31:16):
Like that's just the reality of this. It's just like
they want you to just continue to pay these things forever,
and when you add it up over time, it's a lot.
It's starting to rival what we had with cable. All right,
who is holding no longer? Let's go to Let's go
to Charles in the San Fernando Valley. Charles, You're on with.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Rich, Hey, Rich, longtime fan all the way back to
Sam Ruben on five. I guess you're still on there. Hey, listen,
this is literally the second time a company has tried
to get me to buy a new iPhone just because
they're upgrading to iOS seventeen and I have an iPhone eleven.

(31:57):
Am I screwed? I mean, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Uh well, let's see, we've got to go to iOS seventeen.
So you're trying to hold on, what do you what
is your phone running right now?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Man, let me chet. I'm definitely not at iOS seventeen.
I think I think I'm let me just really quick
go to settings. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Are you on the phone? You're on the phone right now?
I take it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, so yeah,
see what you're running. And the thing is, typically the
way Apple works, is they the answer to the question is, really,
you're not going to be able to easily download iOS
seventeen to that phone, even though it does support if
you if you're on the iPhone eleven, it does support

(32:42):
iOS seventeen. But typically typically as far as I know, okay,
have you tried going into your settings and updating it?
And what does it say?

Speaker 6 (32:51):
Yeah, yeah, it just it just goes right back to
the notification. It just says you must upgrade to iOS seventeen,
and it does, and you know, I have automatic updates,
so it's it's it's definitely not going there.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
And okay, so so if you go to settings general
software update, what does it say in that area? What
does it say there?

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Okay general here I am. You know, that's why I
listen to you sometimes as long as I can take it,
because I'm not very tech savvy.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, no, I hear. Yeah, Well that's you know, I'm
trying to trying to reach everyone out there, you know,
and that's the beauty. Look, if you're tech savvy, you
probably wouldn't be calling me, so I understand that. Like, yeah,
there's a reason why we're doing the show back. Now.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
I'm right at sixty three point seven gigabyte and I
only have sixty four on this thing. So I'm pretty
sure I'm dealing with a dinosaur.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
But no, you are. I mean then if yeah, there's
just so your your company needs you to install an app,
but you can't install the app because they want it
to be on iOS seventeen. Is that right?

Speaker 6 (33:56):
Yeah, exactly. The app is on the phone. But they're saying,
and you know, we've added these updates to your system
to make it more streamline. And I'm like, come on,
I don't need that.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I'm looking at the.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Optional I think, but that not the way they set
it up.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, I'm looking. Okay, So here's the deal. The iPhone
you're on, if you're on an iPhone eleven, you should
be able to get a newer version of software for
that because it's still supported by Apple. So I think
either you're you're out of storage space which your phone
needs to update. That's what I think is happening. So
why don't you do this? Have you heard of this app?
I mentioned clever Cleaner.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
Clever Cleaner, No, I'll check. That's almost my last name.
That's so funny. It's clever that's great, clever cleaner.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
So if you look it up, I'll put it in
the show notes because I don't want you know, there's
a lot of random apps out there that purport to
do this. This one is completely free. It's there's no ads,
there's no funny business. So I like it a lot.
It's from Okay, it's from a company called Clever Files.
So if you want files, yeah, that's so if you
download that. So if you go to cleverfiles dot com,

(35:04):
you'll check out this. You'll see this Clever Cleaner app.
You download that if your phone will allow you to
download it and you can clear out some space. Now,
if you can't download it because you're completely out of space,
just go into your photos and delete like a big
video file and that will clear up. Okay, regular yeah, okay.
The other thing you can do is if this phone

(35:26):
is you know it is getting kind of old, you
can do like a factory reset and just clear it
completely and get all the junk off there. But obviously
you'd want to have a backup. But at this point,
I'm looking at iOS twenty six. It is supported on
iPhone eleven, so your phone is a dinosaur, but it
is still supported by Apple. There's no need for you
to have to purchase a new phone at this point,
so it's just a.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Matter of so it just has to have more memory.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I think you just need to clear out some storage
and that might allow you to download the app. And
if that doesn't, then you'll have to update your iOS
to a more modern version. Just go into that setting things.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Let me.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Just make sure I get this right. It's settings. Let's
see here settings general software update. That's what I'd like
you to do, Charles. Thanks for the call. No need
to buy a new phone. Look at this, we're saving
folks money. Eighty to eight rich one O one eighty
eight seven four to two four one zero one. With
that said, next year, you will need a new device
because it's not going to be supported with the new

(36:23):
operating system next year. But you still have a year
more rich on Tech coming your way right after this.
Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
out with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one
oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two
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(36:45):
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(37:08):
I mentioned, you can just go to the website. This
is episode one one. Search Ford or it should be
right at the top. If you go to Google right now,
you'll notice the logo looks a little different. It is
the twenty seventh birthday of Google, maybe not today, but
sometime around today, and so they're throwing it back to

(37:30):
nineteen ninety eight with their original logo. And if you
tap it in a sign of the times it taps,
you're right into AI mode and it says, what's the
story behind Google and its name? What does it mean?
How has a logo and search product evolved over time?
The name Google originated as a misspelling of Google, the
mathematical term for the number one followed by one hundred

(37:52):
zeros infinite amount of information. Before that, their search engine
project was named BackRub. This was all started at Stanford.
And the thing about Google is that it did search better.
There was something called Yahoo, and there was something called Excite.
There was something called Alta Vista. There was Ask Jeeves.

(38:15):
There were many search engines before Google. The thing that
Google did well is they actually gave you the answer
you were looking for, not some nonsense that their computer
systems that these other places came up with. You know,
a lot of them were just directories and things like that.
Like Google actually figured out what you were looking for
and serve that up, and they were so confident about that.

(38:36):
They still have the same button today, the I'm feeling
lucky button, So if you are just looking for something
and you wanted the best result, you could tap that
and be taken to it in one click. Now the
Google homepage has gotten a little bit. I wouldn't say
it's cluttered. It's still pretty clean for you know, millions
upon millions of people visiting it every day. But now

(38:59):
they've got let's just see how many ways to search.
You've got voice search, you've got image search, you've got
Ai Mode search, you've got standard Google Search, and you've
got the I'm feeling lucky search button. So it has
definitely expanded over the years, and many other products have
come out of Google. But if you want to check
out the new logo or the new the old logo,

(39:21):
it is there Google dot Com. All right, let's go
to line five. Here, Kirk is in an Upland, California. Kirk,
you're on with Rich here.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
It's how you're doing.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I'm doing well? Thanks for asking? What can I help
you with you? What's that can you here? We okay, yeah,
you sound great.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
Okay, I'm on a different point. I have an iPhone
eight that I inherited from my mom about two years ago.
It's on my brother's family plan. I haven't had any
problems with it until YouTube wanted me to update, and
so every time YouTube comes up, I have to quit
in order to to watch YouTube, and it won't let

(40:02):
me download certain apps. Right now, I just tried to
download the the Clever Cleaner app that you were talking
about on the iPhone. So I have it in that
mode right now, and it's wanting my mom's It shows
either her email address or pass code, and I don't
know either one, and I'm just wondering how I can
get past that. I tried to update before, or I

(40:24):
tried to. I think I even tried to factory reset,
but I still needed that to do it. I think
or that it was under another account.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yep, yep. It's called activation locks. So if you yeah, like,
let's let's let's say someone let's say someone found this
phone and they just erased it like you did, you
know they would not be able to use it fully
because it would still be linked to the other account.
So the thing you need to do is get in

(40:52):
touch with Apple. So if you are you said you
inherited this from your mom that passed. I'm sorry to
hear that, but you can request if you have the
proper documentation, you can ask Apple to remove this activation lock.
They're not going to give you access to the data
on that phone. It sounds like you have access to
the phone itself. So if there's any photos on there,

(41:15):
there's any pictures, any notes, anything like that, you want
to download all of those before you do this. And
so if you have photos, get those off of that
phone onto some other either the cloud or just transfer
them to a computer. Notes, anything that could be stored
on her phone that you may want to keep, you

(41:36):
need to transfer off that phone. Get in touch with Apple.
If you have the right documentation, you might need a
death certificate or some sort of whatever you may have
that Apple will ask for. You can get in touch
with them and ask them to remove the activation lock.
And once they remove that activation lock, then you can

(41:56):
go through and format that system and you can set
it up as your own phone. Now, the caveat to
all of this is that you said it's an iPhone
eight that is no longer supported officially, by Apple, so
you will not be able to get any software updates.
I'm not even sure you're able to download new apps
on there because it is running such an outdated version

(42:17):
of the operating system. So I guess the bottom line
is if you want to use this device and continue
to use it as your own device, then you can
get in touch with Apple and try to do this process.
But it may not be worth it because it sounds
like you have access to this phone no matter what.
You can unlock it, you've got the passcode or whatever.
It's just that you can't really do anything account related

(42:39):
on this device because you don't have the master password
for her Apple ID. That's what it sounds like to me. So,
but you can get in touch with Apple. They've got
a support page. If you Google how to remove activation lock,
and you scroll all the way down, it'll say if
you need help removing activation line, can have proof of documentation.

(43:01):
You can start an activation lock support request, and you
can do that with Apple. For the rest of you,
I would say, set up what's called a legacy contact
access key, so or sorry, set up what's called a
legacy contact so you can do this with Google. You

(43:23):
can do this with Apple. You can do it with Facebook,
I believe. But there is the ability to set what's
called a legacy contact. This is someone that can get
access to your account if you pass away. And so
I know this is not something you want to think about,
but it's something that can happen. And so if you're

(43:43):
set up and you want someone to have access to
your photos, your notes, or whatever you have on your
digital account, you can set that up in advance. And so,
for instance, on my Google I have it set up
where my wife will get an email if something were
to happen to me and I don't access my count
for a couple of months, she will get an email
that says, hey, Rich has not accessed this account for

(44:05):
a few months, would you like to access it? And
that is something you can set up. You don't need to,
you don't have to. You can also just leave your
password behind if you want. This is just a more
probably a more secure way of doing that. But no
matter what, come up with a plan for your key accounts,
whether that is social media, whether that's file storage, whether

(44:25):
it's your photos, just come up with the the I
guess continuation plan. If something were to happen to you,
just like you would with anything in your in your
in your life. You know, your car, your your estate,
whatever it is. You know, this digital stuff holds a
lot and you may want to pass that on. You
can also just download everything and put it on a
drive and just keep it safe for your kids. You know,

(44:47):
you can do that too, but come up with a plan.
It's it's probably the nice thing to do for your
family members. Thanks for the call, do appreciate it. If
you're using chat gbt, they've got a new feature called
this is getting wild. Chat gbt is just they are
throwing stuff at the wall and just trying anything because

(45:08):
they are right now, they are the market leader when
it comes to AI. They really are. They've got the
brand name. And this is a new feature called Pulse.
This is a preview. Everything now is preview. It rolls out.
It's for pro users, so you have to be paying
to see this. But it's daily personalized updates. So chat
gbt kind of goes through all of your chats, all

(45:29):
of its memory, anything you said to it, maybe your email,
your calendar if you've connected those, and at the beginning
of the day, it'll say, hey, here's a whole bunch
of stuff we think you should kind of think about today,
whether it could be a travel tip, an event reminder,
next step on a project, or an email that you
have to follow up with, and it's little cards on
your screen. I have not seen these arrive on my

(45:51):
app just yet, but I find it fascinating because it's
the next step of AI where it's more proactive versus reactive,
and that is really what I think is going to
help us in the future, is having more proactive AI.
I'm not sure if this is the answer or this
is any good, but at least they're trying it, and
it kind of makes sense because think about the way

(46:13):
you can use this. You can tell chat GBT you
know already. You can say, remind me that I need
to do this tomorrow. But imagine when you open up
chat GBT says, hey, remember it's your mom's birthday today,
or it is your anniversary. Can I help you get
some presents you know, or whatever, it's your thirtieth anniversary,
that's silver. Let me let me find some gifts online
for you. So it can really be helpful and useful.

(46:37):
This is a focus set of daily updates, so you
just see him once in the morning and then it
stops until the next day. And early testers say it's useful,
but they guide it with specific feedback, so they say like, Okay,
I like this, but I don't like that. So Pulse.
It's called from chat Gibt. If you are on the
pro plan, look for it on your phone. I have

(46:58):
not gotten it just yet, but I'm telling you this
week with CHATCHYBT, I set up all these projects, which
are basically instructions for things that you do over and
over so over and over. When I come up with
a guests for this show, I make a line that
says what that guest is going to talk about or
you know who they are and what their company is.
So I just taught chatch Ebt how to do that,

(47:19):
and now I just drop in some information about my
guests and it makes that line in a second something
that used to take me, you know, five ten minutes
to do. So it's just you can become very efficient
with these things. Lots going on in AI and it
can be very helpful. Eighty eight rich one oh one
eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero

(47:41):
one coming up more of your calls. Plus I'll tell
you about the app that was paying people for their
call recordings to harvest the data for AI. It's been
shut down, but I'll tell you what that's all about.
Coming up right here. I'm rich on Tech. Welcome back
to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,
talking technology. Eight eight a rich one oh one eight

(48:01):
eight eight seven four two four one zero one. I
was talking about setting up the legacy contacts for your
various you know, Google, Facebook, Apple accounts. Google actually calls
it the Inactive account Manager, So if you're looking for
that online, it's called the Inactive Account Manager. I've also
got it linked up on the website rich on Tech

(48:23):
dot tv. This week I got access finally. I can't
believe it's been almost a year, I think since I
went to New York to cover this. But the Alexa Plus,
which is the new AI version of Alexa, and OMG,
it is good. I posted a video on my Instagram
at rich on Tech. Check it out. I wasn't even

(48:45):
sure one of my devices was going to get this,
but two of them got it. I just got an
email and said, hey, you've got early access to Alexa Plus.
Check it out. And so this is something that's going
to be a free benefit for Prime members, but for
non Prime members it's going to be twenty dollars a month,
so which is silly because Prime is cheaper than that.
Twenty dollars times twelve months is two hundred and forty dollars.

(49:06):
Amazon Prime is one hundred and forty. So don't pay
for Alexa Plus, just pay for Prime and get Alexa plus.
Super weird there, But what is Alexa plus all about?
Oh my gosh, the conversational aspect of the voice and
the smarts is just so refreshing. It used to be

(49:27):
you had to say things a very certain way for
this assistant to respond. Now it is just like an
AI persona you would imagine. So you got to watch
the video on my Instagram at Richon Tech. It's just
all natural, Like you don't have to say please turn
on lights in living room, like you just say, hey,
you know, I'd like you to turn on the lights

(49:49):
by the couch in the living room, you know, if
you haven't set up that way, But it just figures
that out. And so then of course you can ask
all the information. You know, it's pre set with all
the information in the world. You can ask questions just
like you could before, but it's much more natural. And
then kind of the coolest aspect is that you can
feed information to Alexa using their app or their website

(50:11):
and then it can reference that information. So if your
kid has a list of soccer games coming up, you
can scan that in you know, take a picture of
it with your phone, upload it through the app. They
have a new app, and then when you say, hey,
do we have a soccer game this weekend? The assistant
can tell you if that's the case. And you can say, hey,
and what do I need to bring for snacks? What

(50:32):
are they asking for? And if it's on there, it'll
tell you. So I mean, really really big upgrade. I
think the big thing to look out for right now
is what Google's going to do because Google, they've been
teasing that Gemini, which is their AI assistant, is going
to take over a Google Assistant on all of their
smart home devices come October first. Now, it may not

(50:54):
happen that day for everyone. All these companies like to
roll things out, so it may be a slow rollout.
But again, I think if those are the two that
are really gunning for control of the home right now,
and if it's good as good as it seems like
it's going to be. It's kind of going to be
a whole new world of home control because we've been
controlling all this smart home stuff for a long time,

(51:15):
playing music, radio stations, controlling lights, smart home devices. To
be able to do all of that in a much
more natural way, plus to have the memory, plus to
be able to answer questions just back and forth, this
is going to be just a whole refresh of that
genre with the smart home. So I am excited for
that for sure. And just in my short time in

(51:37):
sort of fooling around with Alexa that sounds weird, Pobo,
just in my short time, it seems very promising. So
check it out. If you want to try Amazon dot
com slash Alexa plus, check it out. I mean, really
really cool. And I asked it, by the way, one
of the things I asked the fire TV, which also

(51:58):
got the upgrade. I said, Hey, play the movie that
is where the guy says in it roads where we're
going we don't need roads? And sure enough, Bobo, do
you know which movie I'm talking about? Sure no, he doesn't. Okay,
sure enough, right right away, back to the future at
the end, that's what doc Brown says, he goes, roads

(52:20):
where we're going, we don't need roads? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
I know it, And so Alexa easily she said, Oh,
here's your movie. She goes, I think you're talking about
back to the Future. And you know when you say
a quote for a movie, you have to say it
like the person said, I'm like, and the quote was
roads where we are going? We don't need roads? Now
which movie is that?

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Bobo?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
I am I'm not like a movie quote person. Are
you do you remember? Like I've got people at work,
like a couple of people I work with that Are
they remember every movie quote? Imaginable? I am not like that,
not everyone, but a little bit of them. Yeah, what
about Iceberg? Right ahead? The Titanic, that's right, Come on minute,

(53:02):
Well give me one. You must have a movie quote.
I'm a dude playing a dude disguise is another dude?
Oh don't know it?

Speaker 8 (53:11):
Serious?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah? Tropic Thunder? Oh god, yeah, I mean I saw that.
But I see again. I when I watch a movie,
it just goes in one ear and out the other.
I none of it sticks unless it's a movie like
Back to the Future or Christmas Vacation or home alone.
I mean, I know these are all very like them
three movies I just mentioned, like thirty years old. Like

(53:31):
I basically don't remember anything from new movies. Eighty eight
rich one on one eighty eight seven four to two,
four one zero one. Coming up, we are going to
talk to Lisa Jackson. I spent no less than eight
hours in the woods with Apple, and I'm telling you.
I'll tell you why coming up, But uh, yeah, it

(53:52):
was interesting. Eighty eight rich one O one eighty eight
seven four to two four one zero one more rich
On Tech right after this, Welcome back to rich On Tech. Yes,
I spent over eight hours in the middle of nowhere,
northern California in a redwood forest to check out Apple's

(54:17):
new investment there. Apple has partnered with the Conservation Fund
to basically safeguard over fourteen thousand acres of forest in
northern California. Beautiful area up there, but zero cell phone
signal the whole day. But this is their plan to
remove carbon from the atmosphere. It's all part of their

(54:37):
plan to go carbon neutral by twenty thirty and that's
coming soon. So these trees basically suck the carbon out
of the air and store it and this is part
of an initiative they have in northern California, but they've
got them in other places as well. While I was there,
I talked to Lisa Jackson, vice president at Apple for

(54:59):
Environment Policy, SEE and Social Initiatives. So, first off, beautiful
area we're in, I mean, amazing trees behind us. I
learned a lot about them today about how much carbon
they can take in and just keep forever. Basically, that's right.
Why do you think it's important that Apple does a

(55:19):
project like this and there's several of them.

Speaker 9 (55:22):
Yeah, well, I mean, first off, just being here, I
think is indicative of how we approached our.

Speaker 10 (55:30):
Commitment to the environment and climate change.

Speaker 9 (55:32):
You know, we we back in twenty twenty, we made
this announcement that we wanted to be carbon neutral across
our supply chain and across all of our customers energy use.
And it sounds like, oh, it's just another thing Apple says.
Then you know, you know we're going to do it
because we say we're gonna do it, But we wanted
to give a little sneak peek into what that means
and some of the creativity and innovation and technology.

Speaker 10 (55:55):
You know, trees are.

Speaker 9 (55:56):
A technology for us as well as being beauty and
part of nature that we used to get there. So,
as you said, you know this this redwood tree behind
us and the forest that you probably got a glimpse of,
and the act of restoring a redwood forest means that
those trees have to grow big trunks and leaves and

(56:19):
roots like this, and that's pulling carbon out of the air.
So when we came up with our plans, we knew
that just the technology available to us today meant about
twenty five percent of our missions. We weren't going to
be able to take those to zero, and so that
twenty five percent, we started looking around for the best
technology to make up for it, and we decided that
the technology already existed. And what's lovely about it, you know,

(56:43):
this is one of about twenty four projects around the
world on six continents. Is that each one of them
are different, and I've gotten to see several, but we
try to include the community.

Speaker 10 (56:55):
You know, we have wonderful partners like the Conservation Fund.

Speaker 9 (56:59):
The reason we like it is that they approach it
as regenerative agriculture, which has an impact on the community.
This is a community that has a long history of
timber and lumber production, and that's part of what makes
us a sustainable project.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Why not just buy your way to carbon neutrality?

Speaker 10 (57:21):
Well, you know, that's not very innovative. It's certainly a solution.

Speaker 9 (57:25):
And I don't want to knock it for people who
that's where they choose to spend their time. But at Apple,
we've always looked at our footprint as an opportunity to
lead on the technology. You know, we've been doing clean
energy and investing in clean energy for well over a
decade now. We've run the company on clean energy since
twenty eighteen. When we looked across at what it would

(57:49):
take to really move our products. We knew the material
that makes up our products, if we can move that
to recycled material. We've had incredible success changeing our supply
chain to incorporate more and more recycled material, like recycle
cobalt in you know, ninety nine percent of the cobalt
in our batteries now is recycled material. Those things make

(58:11):
changes that last for everyone. They don't just change Apple,
and they don't just change our products. They change the
approach that the world can take. And that's the same
way we feel here, you know, removing carbon and doing
it through projects that invest in communities around the world
and doing it in ways that allow the communities to
be economically viable. That's something that can be an example

(58:33):
that could be used and change it for more than
just us. And you know, we want to be the
ripple in the pond that that more we change, but
the world changes.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Well you just answer my next question. You know, are
you setting example do you feel like I mean, Apple's
a huge company moving millions upon millions of products, So
if you can do this, is that a message that
other companies can do this?

Speaker 6 (58:56):
You know.

Speaker 9 (58:56):
One of the real opportunities has been to work with
our supply chain. I mean, I don't like to think
of us as being bragging or telling any other company
how to do their business, but we have these supply
chain that's pretty broad and you know here in the
United States, and if we can work with our suppliers
to help them be able to harness the power of

(59:16):
clean energy or invest in nature based carbon removal as
we do, that's that.

Speaker 10 (59:23):
Will change a lot.

Speaker 9 (59:24):
You know, that's a huge ripple because of the size
of our supply chain, because we're around the world, because
we're doing projects all around the world, and so yeah,
I think I think it's part of our responsibility is
to say we're not just doing this so we can
feel good and pat ourselves on the back, but we
want to bring just the way we bring our supply

(59:46):
chain alone to make our products, we want to bring
them along on this as well.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
I think mother nature is reacting to us. I think
so average consumer, they buy a phone, they expected to work,
they expected to function NI and Apple does a pretty
good job at that, very good job at that. This
is kind of another side of things. Do you think
consumers can feel good the fact that they are upgrading,
they are getting new products, they are using these products.

(01:00:11):
Do you think they can feel good knowing that you've
thought about all this stuff about how to make this
a sustainable business.

Speaker 9 (01:00:16):
I hope that our customers take away from this that
we are doing a lot of that thinking for them,
so that they can know that the pledges and the
promises we made are backed up by real work. First off,
and we're happy to give the examples and explain what
we're doing and talk about our partners, but also that

(01:00:37):
they see their role in it, you know, as our
customers the best job in the world, you know, is
being an Apple customer, but also taking seriously this idea
of bringing back the product at the end of its life.
You know, we know our products last a long time,
they have great trade and value. That's another opportunity because

(01:00:57):
every time we can get those products back into the
recycling economy, back into that big circle of reusing material,
it means less material has to be mined from the Earth,
and that's a great thing. So we're really proud of
that as well, and I hope it's a delightful moment
for customers. Did you just feel delighted to know that

(01:01:17):
the same expertise that makes these amazing products is being
put to work on behalf of the planet as well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
The final question your relationship with nature? Why do you
do this? What you know? What makes you interested in
doing this?

Speaker 10 (01:01:33):
Such an interesting question. I'm actually a city girl. I
grew up in New Orleans.

Speaker 9 (01:01:37):
I live in the city, as I was saying before,
But for me, the planet has always been tied to people.

Speaker 10 (01:01:45):
We're part of this amazing ecosystem, and you know, we
need the planet.

Speaker 9 (01:01:50):
We need clean air to be healthy, and clean water,
and we need our stable climate that can support us,
and I think for me, the connection of these nature
based product projects to the local economies and then to
the economy of Apple is something that is profound and
really important.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yes it is. That is Lisa Jackson, vice president of
Environment Policy and Social Initiatives at Apple. While I was
in that forest for eight hours with no signal whatsoever,
I did have a chance to check out satellite messaging
on the iPhone and I will tell you it works.
The thing to know is that you do have to

(01:02:32):
have a clear signal to the sky, and it's a
slow process, so it's slow to send the message, it's
slow to receive the message, and you might not get
a notification that you have a new text, so you'll
have to sit there and connect again to check for
those messages. So the other thing to know is that
satellite messaging would not activate on my phone, and I

(01:02:52):
was like, what is going on here? And so finally
I restarted my phone and sure enough it worked. So
if you're ever in a place where you need to
use satellite messaging, your phone is not allowing it to activate.
Restart your phone, and by the way, not sure if
you know this, you can ask Siri to restart your phone.
You can say hey, Siri, restart my phone, and that'll
restart your phone. So that's another way to do it.
The other thing I discovered because we were on the

(01:03:14):
windiest road I have ever been on in my entire life.
Like when I tell you windy, I actually thought it
was almost like torture. It was so windy, Like I
don't get carsick, and I was carsick. There is a
feature on the iPhone called Vehicle Motion Cues. You can
turn it on in accessibility, but it puts these little
dots on your screen and somehow they move with the

(01:03:36):
motion of the car and it makes you feel like
you're not moving as much, Like you can look at
your phone screen and not get as sick feeling. So
check it out. They can go on automatically, like if
you get carsick all the time, you can just turn
this on once. It'll recognize when you're in a car
and it will just toggle that feature on again. It's
called vehicle Motion Cues. And the other thing that I

(01:03:58):
discovered up there is a beautiful place in California called Healsburg.
Oh my gosh, So I stayed there the night before
I had to go into the woods and it's like
this little wine sort of I don't know, I guess
it's like a it's kind of in your Napa valley,
but beautiful. It's like a little town square in the center,
and there was like tasting rooms, restaurants. Definitely somewhere I

(01:04:21):
want to go back. So northern California beautiful, beautiful place,
and it's nice to know that Apple is helping out
by preserving some of the woods up there. Redwoods by
the way, if you haven't seen them, those trees are incredible.
They'd last forever and they are just huge, so really
really cool. Anyway, if you want to see my story,
I did a TV segment on this, you can go

(01:04:41):
to the website rich on Tech dot tv and just
hit the icon or the link that says here's why
Apple is investing in a California redwoods forest. All right,
coming up, more of your calls eighty eight rich one
one eight eight eight seven four to two four one
zero one. I'll tell you about the app that was
recording call for AI and then one plus coming out

(01:05:02):
with the one plus fifteen. I'll tell you all about that.
Right here. I'm rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich
on tech eighty eight Rich one oh one eighty eight
seven four two four one zero one. Mike is in
Huntington Beach. You're on with Rich.

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
Hey, Rich, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 11 (01:05:29):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah, thank you?

Speaker 11 (01:05:31):
Okay, so good.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
This is first time caller.

Speaker 11 (01:05:35):
And uh, I've been wanting to ask you this question
for years.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
So here it is.

Speaker 11 (01:05:39):
I found an old Nokia sixty three fifty my flip
phone that I have a picture that I took of
my daughter in nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 8 (01:05:49):
Oh man, Then yep, I'm telling you what.

Speaker 11 (01:05:52):
It's just a real memorable one.

Speaker 8 (01:05:55):
And so I I really don't know anything about any
kind of phone.

Speaker 11 (01:06:00):
But as I'm looking at it, I took out the
little card where you used to be able to see
what pictures are on your card, and it's not on
that card. So that means that it must just be
in the phone somewhere. Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Is it possible that.

Speaker 11 (01:06:15):
It's just in the phone? And so I was wondering
if there's any way I can get to that and
have it, you know, get a copy that made.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
So you want to remove this photo from the phone,
That is correctly, Okay, and you don't. Okay, So there's
a couple of things. Number one, if it's got the
SD card, there may be a way to copy that.
I mean, do you have the charger for this phone?
Is it like powered on everything?

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
It's it's it's charging right now.

Speaker 11 (01:06:39):
I have a battery for it and the charger, And yeah,
I keep looking at it. Like once a year agoing
I got to call rich on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Tech and ask them this, do you have a USB
CA do you have some sort of cable for it
for your computer?

Speaker 7 (01:06:50):
You know, I don't know that answer.

Speaker 11 (01:06:52):
Okay, if that if that's that's something I'm going to
write down and see if I do.

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
Is that possible to have those out there that would sit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Into my mac?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I mean probably you could get like go on eBay
or something like that to see. But let's I think
I think there's gonna be a way to do this.
This is you said this in Nokia sixty three fifty.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Because this one, okay, this I'm looking online. It says
that was released in two thousand and nine, so that's
probably not it. There must be an older one. I'm
guessing I'm looking.

Speaker 8 (01:07:22):
At it right now.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
Let me see did I make a mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
They could have reused the number or the naming convention
you know later on. But anyway, I think there's there's
a couple of ways to attack this. Number one, I
think that if you can copy that photo, if there's
some sort of functionality, like when you're viewing that photo
on that phone, look for some sort of way to
copy it to the SD card. It might say there

(01:07:46):
might be a menu in there that lets you copy
that to the SD card. That would be the absolute
easiest way to do it. So that's number one. Number two,
I think this is going to be the second easiest
way is bluetooth, So you can bluetooth. Typically you can
send that photo via Bluetooth from that Nokia phone to
your computer. And this was one of the ways that

(01:08:09):
we transferred things back in the day before we got
all the high tech stuff that we have. Now. Have
you investigated that aspect of this, No, I haven't.

Speaker 8 (01:08:19):
I've just asked a few people and you know, and
they say, yeah, I have no idea how to do it.
So I've gotten written down there, you know, either copy
it to the phone or to the card, which there
is no card in it now. So I can't do that,
but I think this bluetooth thing, I'll try to figure
out if I can hook it up to the computer
and do it that way.

Speaker 11 (01:08:39):
Those are the only two options.

Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
I've even taken it into like photoshops, and they didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
Know what to do with it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
I mean, the only other option would be is if
you could go on eBay find a cable, the original
cable for this. It might be like the old school
USB cable, plus you know, some sort of proprietary connector
that Nokia used on these phones, and then you can
connect it to your computer. There's no guarantee that that
phone will show up as a drive on that computer,

(01:09:06):
but it may because you know, back in the day,
we didn't really transfer things wirelessly as much. We did
everything manually, so it may show up. Yeah, it also
may not show up on your Mac. It may you
may have to try, you know, try your Mac and
then if you have a friend with a Windows computer,
maybe try it on there. I if the bluetooth thing
doesn't work, I think the bluetooth thing is going to
be your best bet. So what you would do is

(01:09:26):
you would just turn on the bluetooth go to that
picture on the device and then on your computer. If
you're trying it on the Mac, you know, toggle on.
There's like the thing called Bluetooth File Exchange. Let me
see if we can find it here Bluetooth. You have
a Mac, you said, yes, I do. So if you
open up the Bluetooth File Exchange and let's see settings here.

(01:09:48):
I'm trying to see, you should be able to like
put your computer into like a receiving mode and then
have it receive that file from the computer so that
or you can even try it with your iPhone. I
mean you can just try like all of your different
like any of your devices that you have, like another
Android if you have it, or an iPhone, put it

(01:10:09):
in that pairing mode, like pair it up and just
try to send that file to that other device. So
that's that's another way to do it. So I think
between the SD card, the microSD, whatever kind of card
it had on their memory card, try to copy it there.
First you may have to be a memory card. Second
is a Bluetooth, third is the USB cable. So those

(01:10:29):
are the three ways to do it. There used to
be like a program and you might find these out there.
There's like a Nokia suite or something like that. But
it looks like all the downloads are not official anymore.
So you have to proceed at your own risk with
downloading that program. So I would be careful with that, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:10:51):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (01:10:53):
The knowledge that I have in my brain is kind
of telling me maybe the pairing thing and just trying
different devices. Try to go with the Bluetooth and.

Speaker 11 (01:11:02):
Just see if you can get in receiving mode, see
if it will transfer over.

Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
Yeah, so I think I have a good I have
a good place to start.

Speaker 7 (01:11:09):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
I sure appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
I bet it's kind of work, all right, Mike. Yeah,
I want to hear the report card on this. I
want to see if it works because I've done this
in the past. You know, I test a lot of phones,
and I've done this exact thing in the past. Now
I can't say I've done it with this exact phone,
but in the past, when there's been a challenge of
getting a photo off an old phone, Bluetooth is typically
the best way. Now, it's gonna be a slow process.

(01:11:31):
It's gonna you know that less than one megabyte file
is probably gonna take, like, you know, a little bit
of time, you know, thirty seconds to transfer over or something.
It's not gonna be like air drop, so just remember that.
But I think that you'll be able to do that
with the with the Bluetooth, and that's probably the best
solution I can think of. The Other thing you could
do is activate this phone again, just get it activated.

(01:11:54):
I know it probably doesn't have Wi Fi, but maybe
you can activate it with a SIM card and just
you know, exit to yourself. If you do that. That's
a very expensive option, but you know, you can get
a prepaid SIM out there and pop it into this
phone and text that picture to yourself. That's one more option,
So lots of different options. Hopefully you get that precious
picture of your daughter off of that phone and into

(01:12:16):
some sort of online storage so that you can keep
it forever. Great call, Thanks a lot. Eighty eight rich
one on one eighty eight seven four to two four
one zero one one plus skip it over the one
plus fourteen and going right to the one plus fifteen.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
They announced it and I will tell you more about
that coming up right here on rich on Tech. Welcome
back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out
with you, talking technology. Triple eight rich one oh one
eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Did you know you can listen to this show as
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tech in your favorite audio app. A couple things to

(01:13:17):
get to before we get back to the phone lines. Here.
One Plus coming out with the one Plus fifteen. They
officially announced it at the Snapdragon summit in China. It's
going to have the new Snapdragon eight Elite Gen five chip,
whatever that means. Now here's the interesting part. They are
dropping their five year partnership with Hasselblad. This is the

(01:13:38):
I believe European company that was doing all their color tuning.
They made a big thing about this for the past
couple of phones, but I guess they're ditching it and
now they're using one Plus's own detail Max engine for photography.
So I'll be honest. I love one plus phones. They
are really really good on the Android side, Like I'm
talking the best specs you can get on a phone,

(01:14:00):
and the downside has always been they were not able
to tune their camera properly. And I don't know why.
Every year I get this phone, I'm like, this is
a phone I want to use, and then I, you know,
take a couple of pictures of the camera, like, ah, okay,
we'll try next year. They did skip the fourteen. They
went from thirteen to fifteen because four is unlucky in

(01:14:20):
Chinese culture. Camera specs promises clear, natural, real shots. No
pricing or release date just yet. But the other thing
to know is that one plus phones often launched without
a carrier here in the US, so you do have
to go out of your way a little bit to
get them. But otherwise, if you like spex, one plus
phones are always screaming in that aspect. There's this app

(01:14:44):
called Neon that promised up to thirty dollars a day
for recording your phone calls and then getting all the
data from them and selling that to AI companies and
they would pay you for that, basically pay you to
record your calls. The company has apparently paused service. This
app went to like the top of the app store

(01:15:05):
because I guess people didn't mind having their phone calls
recorded and harvested for data. I said they only recorded
one side, which was your side, so they got around
the two party states. But I'm not sure. I'm not
a legal expert, but I don't know if that does that.
But apparently this app is no longer functioning. I guess
let's see Neon see if you go to the app store, ooh, simon,

(01:15:28):
there it is. Doesn't really say anything. Let's see if
the website says that it's been paused. Apparently tech Crunch
found a flaw that let other people access the recording,
So what a thought. I mean, I don't know. This
thing is just weird. We talked about it on TV.
I just don't get it. I mean, I understand about

(01:15:49):
making money on your calls, but like, who's going to
do that? I would not do that, but I know
you can record calls, and it's just anyway. The app
is called Neonmobile dot Com. If you want to check
it out. I can't record that you do this, and
I'm not even sure it's working anymore. But yeah, and
then we'll get to a call in a second. But
Steve wrote in, hey, Rich, I heard you talking about
the new Alexa. It might be the latest and greatest,

(01:16:10):
but I actually switch back to dumb Alexa when I
want to turn on a light for say two hours.
The new Alexa makes you set up a routine. All
I wanted to do was turn on a light for
a certain amount of time and then shut down. So
if one time I want the light on for one
hour and then one and a half the next day,
it makes you set up a routine for every time.
So I switched back to the dumb Alexa, and now
I could turn on a light for any duration without

(01:16:31):
setting up a routine. I have not checked that. I
will try that when I get home and see what happens.
All right, let's go to Christina waiting patiently in Monterey, California.
You're on with Rich.

Speaker 12 (01:16:43):
Hi, Rich, thank you for taking my call. Yeah, Hi,
So I question my Google account that I've had for
over five years. All of a sudden, just send me
an email saying that they can not verify that I'm
an adult and they're restricting parts of my account because

(01:17:07):
of this. I went into like, I only use it
for my Android phone basically just for emails and just
to have an Android phone active with the Google account.
But I couldn't find any settings, and I couldn't respond
to the email they sent me because it was a
no reply email and they didn't even ask me for

(01:17:32):
any proof of age. And I just don't know where
to find the setting to correct that, because I'm looking
at it from my androids phone and I don't see
anything that says we need your proof of age in
the account itself, other than the email.

Speaker 10 (01:17:49):
They sent me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Right, Okay, So a couple things. First off, Google is
indeed using AI to verify users ages. So are you
over eighteen?

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:18:01):
Yes, I'm well over eighteen. I'm fifty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Oh okay. Are you looking up things like cartoons, music,
toy reviews, gaming videos, educational videos on YouTube?

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:18:12):
I mean just recently. I just used the only recent
chain of I mean, I subscribed to Turning Point USA.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
But what about searching for things like fried egg, jellyfish, no,
screaming Harry Armadillo. No, okay, these are things that kids
might search. And so what Google's doing is they're using
a bunch of signals to figure out if someone is
under eighteen. And the reason for this is all these

(01:18:41):
child privacy and safety and security things, most of it
is over in the UK, but it does affect people
here as well. I will be honest. My mom got
this and I could not I was laughing because she
said I never heard of it before. She said, I
got this email from Google saying they can't verify my age.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
I know I'm over eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
What is this? And I never heard of it? And
they wanted her credit card to verify. And I said,
that sounds like a scam. But after some research, it
is not a scam. And so it sounds like they
have flagged your account for being potentially underage. But you
can go to a page on Google to verify your age,
and they might ask for something like an ID or

(01:19:22):
a credit card. They do a verification of like a
dollar or something, and then they credit you once they
do it. Now the age if you go to my
account dot Google dot com slash age dash verification. If
you go to that page, mine says congrats, your age

(01:19:44):
is verified. You don't need to take any action because
your Google account doesn't require age verification. You can close
this window. But I'm guessing if you go to that page,
it may say that your age is not verified, and
so you should follow the instructions there to verify your age.
You might also take a closer look look at that
email that you got and see see if there's any
link in there that lets you do this. Now, obviously

(01:20:06):
you need to be careful because you know, scammers try to,
you know, exploit these kind of things, and so just
make sure it's an official email from Google. But but yeah,
I mean, so it's just I.

Speaker 12 (01:20:17):
Think, I'm sorry, do I need to do that from
a computer because I'm at my Google account right now
on my Android phone and it's a Google account, and
is it under is it under data and privacy or.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
I'm well, if you go to, uh, let's see my account,
you can do it on your phone. Let's see my
account dot Google dot com. Let me see if I
can find like the actual my Account's tough to type
in there, my account dot Google dot com. Okay, so
I type that in and I'm looking at personal info. Yeah,

(01:20:55):
i'd have to, I'd have to look and see. But
I think the direct one is just that website that
I gave you. And I'm sure there's a link in
here somewhere under your Google account where if you go
to my account dot Google dot com, I'm sure you
can find some sort of link, but the direct link
is my account dot Google dot com, slash age dash verification.

(01:21:16):
I'll put that link on the show notes so you
can find it. I'll also link up this help article.
Google announced that they were using AI. Let's see when
did that happen? A couple months ago because I mentioned
it on the news, But basically that's when they started
doing this in a big way, is when AI. They
just said, Hey, we're gonna start using AI to find
all these signals and verify people. And it's really for

(01:21:38):
your security, their security. They're just covering themselves as well
to make sure that no one's accessing this. Oh yeah,
start in July. Make sure nobody's accessing Google that might
be underage. The same thing is with Apple right now,
they've got a system where you can now if you
what happened was during the pandemic, everyone was rushing to
set up their kids accounts because we all had to

(01:21:58):
get on there, they had to get on computer and
things like that. With Google and also Apple, it was
kind of a free for all back then, right, and
so Apple is now letting parents go in and change
the age of their child to make sure that it
is the proper age for that account, because what most
parents did they didn't want to deal with all the
issues that come with setting up a child's account because

(01:22:20):
then you have to deal with all the screen time restrictions,
the age restrictions, that download restrictions. So people just would say, oh,
they'd give their kid a higher age than they were.
And now Apple has realized that and they said, okay,
you can now go in with iOS twenty six and
you can change your child's account to the right age,
so that all these restrictions and things we have will

(01:22:42):
now fall in line with your child. So, yeah, sorry,
that happened to you, Christina, But find that page, find
that link, and hopefully you can verify who you are.
That's you say you are. Let's see here. Paullette says,
I heard you talk about a caller named who was
asking about Visible. I signed up a couple weeks ago

(01:23:03):
and it took some time, but their website chat walked
me through everything I needed help, but got it all
done online without a problem. All right, Well, that's good
to know, paul At thanks for writing that. In Visible
is actually going to be now at best Buy. So
if you're on like the traditional Verizon plan, you could
and if you're a little tech savvy, you could switch

(01:23:23):
to Visible, which is the same network but like half
the price. And now you'll actually be able to go
into best Buy to sort of ask a couple questions.
Make sure your phone is compatible, get a simcard, and
that all starts on September twenty eighth, so you can
do that, and yes, basically this week, so Visible. I
think it's a fantastic deal. I'll be completely honest. I

(01:23:45):
switched my wife a couple of years ago. She fought
it because she's like, well, how is this better than Verizon?
Are different? I said, it's not different at all. You
don't use your phone that much. So unlimited everything. I
think they're doing it for like nineteen dollars a month
right now. Yeah, nineteen dollars a month for one year
for like unlimited everything basically, and they have plans that

(01:24:06):
are nineteen twenty nine or thirty nine. So I would
I would strongly consider looking into this if you like
Verizon and you're paying a lot more. You basically just
have to sign up online or go into the Best
Buy store next week and just talk to someone and say, hey,
is my phone going to work? With this, you can
keep your number, all that good stuff, but it can
save you a boatload of money because Visible is literally

(01:24:29):
run by Verizon. That's the bottom line, all right. Eighty
eight rich one on one eighty eight seven four to
two four one zero one still come up this hour.
We are going to talk photos, preserving your photos, scanning
your photos. We'll get some great recommendations from our photo expert,
Chris de Kay, more of your calls, your emails, and
just good information. Right here, I'm rich on Tech. Welcome

(01:24:55):
back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out
with you, talking technology. This song goes out to all
my demon Hunters out there. This movie blew up on
Netflix k Pop. Demon Hunters watched it with the kids
the other day and it was great. We had such
a good time. I mean, I love when things just

(01:25:17):
surprise you, right, Like, I've heard so much about this movie.
I've heard this song on the radio, and now I'm
just like, yeah, it's it's good. Whenever there's a unique idea,
I love unique ideas, like you, there's a lot of
unoriginal ideas out there, but sometimes things just pop right
not to you know, no pun intended. But this movie

(01:25:37):
just popped because it was so different and it had
a great storyline, it was visually appealing, it was different,
but also it had the music to go along with it.
And so there's a lot going on here. And it's
clear why it became so popular anyway, Kate Pop Demon Hunters. Why,
I mean, it's it's a kid's show. It's like a

(01:25:58):
kid's movie. But I've got kids, so I watch. I
don't know if adults would like it on their own,
but it's I think they would. Uh, let's go to
Virginia in Utica, New York, Virginia. You're on with Rich.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
Hello, Rich played to reach you. Yeah, all right, my
laptop cannot be upgraded to Window Aladdin.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
My dilemma is do I get a Mac or do
I get another Windows. I'm paying a fortune for Advance
for anti virus and their whole package. Would I need
it with a Mac?

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
No? No, I've been running a Mac for twenty years
and I've never put antivirus on it, So you don't
need it. I don't think you need it. On the
Windows side of things either. They have their own Windows
Security built in, which as long as you keep that updated,
you'll be fine, why are you wanting the Mac? Is
it only for the virus stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:26:54):
For what? Basically? I do use an iPad and an
iPhone all.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Okay, So it's a halo effect. You love what you
do there and you love how those work, and now
you're like, hmm, I wonder if the laptop would work
just as well. Is that what you're thinking, right, I've
never used a Mac. Yeah, so it would take a
little bit of getting used to. But what are you
doing on the Mac? Are you doing like standard surfing,
watching Windows?

Speaker 5 (01:27:18):
Yeah, surfing emails and I use open Office word in spreadsheet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Okay, well you can get that on you can get
that on the Mac side of things, so open Office
let me just make sure, yeah you can, you can
download that for the Mac. I would say, if you're
if you're wondering, how long have you had your old computer?

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
I guess I mean yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
And are you thinking a laptop or a or a desktoptop? Okay,
I would think I will tell you this. I test everything,
and I my personal computer that I buy every year
is the MacBook. Usually I buy a Pro. This time
I want the Air and and it is fantastic. It
does everything that you need. I call it the money

(01:28:05):
maker because it literally makes my living. I do everything
on here, and so I have no problems with it.
It works every single time, it's fast, it's efficient, the
battery lasts forever, like I never think about the battery
on this thing. The software is slick, Everything that you

(01:28:25):
need is on there. And the price. Are you an
educator or anything like that? Do you have any discount?

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
No? Just a retired host.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Life Okay, all right, well, I mean I would say
go try the MacBook Air. I really love these computers
and they could last. By the way, for like, my
dad is using my old one. I think it's over
ten years old. I'm not even sure. Actually it's probably
not supported with software anymore, so I probably should get
them a new one.

Speaker 5 (01:28:50):
Is there a size I need to know?

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
I personally would go with the fifteen inch. The reason
why if you go with the thirteen you are going
to be struggling for these green real estate and I
did that. I made that mistake once and I would
never do it again because you just especially now today
with like AI. You may I don't know if you're
using chat GBT or not, but for me, okay, well,

(01:29:13):
if you're not using a program on the side. I
like to have my chat GBT on the side of
the screen, or my text message is always on the
side because I'm always chatting with someone or messaging, and
so I have.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
I have a fifteen inch monitor attached to it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Okay, so and you like that size? Yeah yeah, so
I thirteen is gonna feel too cramped for you. So
I would say, do you have a store near you,
an Apple store?

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
I don't think so, best spine, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
I would go in there. Check out the MacBook Air fifteen.
It's got the new newest processor, the M four. Uh
starts at nine ninety nine. But obviously you're if you're
gonna get the bigger screen, it's gonna be a little
bit more expensive. But I would just do that and
just make the switch and uh yeah, the fifteen inch
starts at twelve hundred. Make the switch, and I think

(01:30:01):
you're gonna love it. I really do. I really think that.
It's just it's such a solid computer for the long term.
Good question. Thanks for calling, Virginia. I appreciate it. Coming
up next, we're going to talk photography, preserving photos, scanning photos,
all that good stuff. Right here on rich On Tech

(01:30:22):
Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
out with you, talking technology the website for the show
rich on Tech dot TV. This is one of my
favorite topics. Photography. I've got over I don't know, two
hundred thousand photos in my Google Photos, and Krista Qualchek

(01:30:43):
is all about making photo organization easy, making sure you
have those old pictures digitized, all that good stuff. Christa,
Welcome to the Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 13 (01:30:55):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks for having me Rich.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
So you've been busy give updates since the last time.
You have a book that's out now, Beyond the Storm too.

Speaker 13 (01:31:05):
I'm very excited.

Speaker 14 (01:31:06):
My book came out in June and just been a
busy world end of a summer promoting the book and
doing book signings and stuff. But it just documented my
time after Hurricane Ian. So I helped people to salvage
blood damage photographs site. So I wrote a book about
that experience, but I filled it with all of the tips,
all the easy solutions anybody can use to be proactive

(01:31:26):
with their photos and not go through what I.

Speaker 13 (01:31:29):
Saw after Hurricane Ian and make sure your photos are safe.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing, like we we always
think like I'll do this tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, and then
something happens and then you lose them. We had a
caller earlier that was trying to get a photo out
of a Nokia phone from nineteen eighty eight. He said, which,
all on, I wait, nineteen eighty did they even have
no kias in? Anyway, it was an old.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Yeah, I was wondering, I don't know the math on that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
Yeah, And maybe the maths was great.

Speaker 13 (01:31:56):
Advice, Your advice was great, But.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Anyway, it's like, you know, these things happen, and like
I've got this old drive at home that I've been
trying to get pictures off for a while. You know,
it's just like we kind of put this stuff off.
But what are you hearing out there when you talk
to people? What is sort of like the biggest issue
people have with their photos?

Speaker 14 (01:32:13):
You know, just not having enough time to do the project,
putting an auful tomorrow, procrastination. And I really think that
this is something that is so important, and especially as
we're hearing more and more of these stories of natural disasters.
But then also time, I mean, whether it's digital photos
or it's those old print photos, time is eating them away.
And I really think procrastination is the biggest issue, and

(01:32:34):
it's the biggest hurdle, and it's the one thing we
really need to stop doing, stop progressing in the photos
because after Hurricane and I heard over and over again
it was the most difficult loss, and these are people
that lost everything. So I think it's just so important
that everybody let's that message sink in and really gives
their photos the love they deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Yeah, there's not a quick solution for procrastination because it
kind of permeates various aspects of our lives. So get
those photos, get them into digital places, get them backed up,
all those things. I mean, I hear all the time
people email me say I lost my phone, or I
dropped my phone, or I broke my phone, and like
none of the pictures were backed up. How can I
get them back? I'm like, I don't know. There's not

(01:33:13):
a way to get them back if you don't back
them up.

Speaker 14 (01:33:16):
No, for sure, you're absolutely right, and it's really not
that hard to you know, add dropbox or Amazon Photos
or one of these extra layers of security.

Speaker 13 (01:33:25):
They're all layers of security.

Speaker 14 (01:33:26):
So I always suggest everybody has in addition to the iCloud.
If you're on iPhone or you're on Android, you know,
you just have to have an additional layer of security.
So I definitely always recommend that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
So whatever you're uploading to, if you are, that's great,
that's amazing, but also have something else because you never
know there could be another Like you're really supposed to
have your things in three places, right the physical on
the phone, in dropbox, or in Google Photos and Dropbox,
or you know, whatever combination you want. But what you
mentioned Amazon Photos is a good one. It's kind of
like a sleeper because people don't realize that's included on

(01:33:59):
Limited with your Amazon Prime membership for photos only video.
They only give you five gigs, so just turn off, which,
by the way, I got to give credit to Amazon.
They could have made it tricky by not letting you
turn off video uploads right, and that would have gobbled
up all your stuff instantly. But they do give you
the option in the settings to say I only want
my pictures uploaded, which is just a great way to

(01:34:21):
get them sort of protected. Let's talk Nano Banana. So
I talked about this on the show a while a
couple episodes ago, but I'm pretty impressed. What are you
seeing with the abilities of this Google nano Banana.

Speaker 14 (01:34:34):
I am between love it and I have a couple
cautionary tales.

Speaker 13 (01:34:39):
The things that can do is amazing.

Speaker 14 (01:34:40):
So going back to Hurricane Ian, I had some really
really super professionals working on digitally restoring photos for me,
and we took things that had some severe damage and
they were able to spend hours and restore them. I
took those same photos and I put them into nano
Banana and I got some pretty comparable results in thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
So wow, amazing.

Speaker 14 (01:35:02):
I wish this tool was available three years ago. But
my warning, my cautionary warning for everyone, is that I
found that when it's sending you back the restored photo
or the altered photo, whatever you've done with that photo,
it's giving you a much lower resolution photo and I
could not find a way around that.

Speaker 13 (01:35:19):
I think it's something that's going to be corrected.

Speaker 14 (01:35:20):
Maybe it'll be something a lot to pay for, But
do not delete your original photo. If you're looking to
eliminate that son in law that's not in the picture
anymore and you want to get them out of the photo,
this is a great option. You can remove somebody from
the family photo, but you have to make sure that
you keep that original for the time being because what
you're getting downloaded, what you're saving. It might be fine

(01:35:41):
for Instagram, it's fine for Facebook, but once you print it,
you're going to see it it's a pretty low quality photo.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Okay, that's a great thing to note, So yes, keep
that original because technology continues to evolve and we may
have a better way of doing this or Google just
may give us the option to get a higher quality
image out of this. But for social media sharing, quick sharing,
sharing with the family, that's that's great stuff. And by
the way, if you're wondering what Gemini Nano banana is,

(01:36:07):
this is Google's AI so it's kind of like chat
gybt but Google's version. And you can go to Google
Gemini dot Google dot com or open up the Gemini
app on your phone and under tools or you'll see
a little button that says create images or might be
a banana next to it. That's for the nano banana
is just a fun way of saying we Google updated

(01:36:28):
their image their AI image editing with this fun name. Basically,
speaking of AI, there's also the project Indigo from Adobe.
What do you know, about that.

Speaker 14 (01:36:40):
Yeah, yeah, I've been using that as hunt.

Speaker 13 (01:36:43):
I really like it. So you know, this is the app.

Speaker 14 (01:36:45):
You're downloading this to your phone and it's working as
another camera. I wouldn't open up this app to take
any photo, but for your anything it's in low lighting.

Speaker 13 (01:36:53):
It is amazing what the difference is.

Speaker 14 (01:36:55):
So I've taken photos in just some interior things, even.

Speaker 13 (01:36:59):
Not not I mean a night sky.

Speaker 14 (01:37:01):
I think it would do a fabulous difference, but just
an interior photo where you're not using your flash and
it's a little darker. I've done comparisons and it really
is a much better photo. So you know, it's just
a it's a free app right now you can download
a phone on your phone. It's it's giving you another
option to take some better pictures and especially in low
lighting situations.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Yeah. Project Indigo. This uses computational photography. And the guy
who is behind it started out as the sort of
grandfather of the Pixel camera on Google. His name's Mark Lavoy,
and he switched. He was like the kind of the
guy in charge of all the stuff at Pixel and
then he switched. He went to Adobe and he said, hm,

(01:37:42):
I think we can do this same technology. But in
an app, because the pixel camera has always been like
Google's phone has always been ninety nine percent software like
instead of just having like the bigger lenses, the better lenses.
So yeah, that's kind of worth trying out. I used
it in a dark kind of hotel lobby when I
was in Mexico City. That's when it launched, and so

(01:38:03):
I was taking a bunch of pictures with it there,
and it is quite impressive with what it can do.
But again, I agree with you what you're saying. Don't
necessarily use it for all of your photos, but it
is kind of a fun way to see, especially if
you have an older phone. I think it works an
iPhone twelve and up. It'll like, uh grade, Yeah, it'll
upgrade your camera like pretty well. So that's a free
app from Adobe, all right. I always like to get

(01:38:24):
your latest recommendations, scanners, printers, you know, any of your
tools that you like. Tell me some of the tools
that you're loving these days.

Speaker 13 (01:38:33):
For sure.

Speaker 14 (01:38:34):
Well, you know, I am all about getting those old
photos digitized, and honestly, that technology is not what I
recommend for people. Is the same I've recommended for a
couple of years now. I love the EPs and Fast
Photo scanner. You can you can go through so many
of your photos you can scan. I think it does
thirty a minute where you are just getting a digital
copy of all of those photos. And you think the
average person has thousands and thousands of old photos. This

(01:38:57):
is taking that project and turning it into a weekend
not a three month project like it would be with
the flatbed. So I always recommend the APPS and Fast Photo.
There is a new slide scanner if you have any
of those old slides, the HP Film Scanner. It's new,
it's the same technology, it's kind of just been rebranded
with a touch screen. So it's just kind of an
easy tool and gets you a decent quality scan of

(01:39:19):
old slides, especially, so those are the ones I recommend
the most for just getting those digital copies of that
that old those old prints, the old memories, and making
sure they're safe.

Speaker 1 (01:39:29):
I think they just sent me the HP one. Is
that one relatively new or is that maybe I got
a new version of it or something like? It is new?

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Yeah, it's new.

Speaker 14 (01:39:38):
The touch screen aspect is the only thing that I
would say is new. The technology of it is been around,
you know, it's it's not new technology necessarily, but the
touch screen aspect makes it nice. And you know, I've
used it's great quality scans for what it is, just
this little and you don't even need a computer to
use it. You just pop a memory card in it
and it saves them to a memory card. So I

(01:39:59):
really li that make anything simple because, like I said
after Hurricanie and my goal was just to make sure
that people are taking steps to make sure their photos
are safe and I don't want technology to be a
barrier between somebody having safe photos or not so.

Speaker 13 (01:40:11):
And then I think this is a great solution for.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
That and real quick before we have to go three
hundred or six hundred DEPI isn't that like the question
they ask when you're scanning, like one is a little
bit slaw?

Speaker 14 (01:40:20):
Six hundred Yeah, okay, I always use six hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:40:24):
I think you're going to be better. From a printing perspective,
I think it's best and you know, it's it's just yeah,
better to have the option to be able to print
a photo.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Okay, there you have it. The christa k dot com,
The christa k dot com. That's your website. Sign up
there get uh, don't you get like a free little
pdf of all the stuff you love if you sign
up for your newsletter or something I do.

Speaker 14 (01:40:47):
I do a whole list of every tool. It's over
seventy items now. Every time I test something out, I
added to the list. But it's my free photo resource
guide and it is everything from photo labs I've tested out,
to picture frames and scanning devices and even new apps.

Speaker 13 (01:41:02):
So it's all there in one place.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
All right, christa qualchick, thanks so much for joining me
the christak dot com. I'll put the link on the website.
Coming up, we are going to open up the feedbag
and see what you're saying this week right here on
rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Can't

(01:41:24):
get this song out of my head. Olivia Dean out
of England. Just so good. This song is just I
just want to put this song on. It's just like
it instantly you're relaxed. It's soothing. It's like a warm
cup of like tea or coffee. Ah, just so nice.
I just play that song on a repeat anyway, Olivia Dean,
if you want to check it out, all right, it

(01:41:46):
is time for the Feedbag. This is your feedback plus
the mail Bag These are the emails, the comments, and
the questions I get from you. If you want to
submit yours, you can go to rich on tech dot
tv and hit contact real quick. On my instagt I posted,
you know, I've got ring one of those ring doorbells,
and I've got the AI what do they call it officially?

(01:42:07):
I don't know what they call it?

Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
Ring?

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
AI? Yeah, video descriptions, so it basically looks at what's
happening on your ring doorbell. It doesn't just say someone's
at your front door. It gives you like a description,
so it'll say like a USPS person is delivering mail
to your mailbox. But I got one yesterday I thought
was hilarious. A person is fixing their hair on your porch.

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And I posted that to my Instagram and I just said,
I'm glad I have an AI doorbell for alerts like this.
But it's very descriptive. It'll be like two kids are
approaching your front door with an ice cream cone. Like
it's very funny. Anyway, I just thought that one was
really funny. It was my friend. We were he's picking
up a kid at my house last night. It was
just I'm sure he put his hands in his hair
or something. It was not me fixing my hair. Uh,

(01:42:55):
let's get to the feedback.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
It was me.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
It was bobo, Sean. I had my backup codes hidden
in a closet under some clothes. After hearing you suggest
keeping them in a safer lock box, I realize that's
a much smarter idea. You are a lifesaver. Thank you, Sean.
Don and Maryland writes in I used Monarch Money for
a year, but dropped it when it stopped connecting to

(01:43:17):
all my investment accounts. I now use both Empower and
Fidelity Full View since I'm a Fidelity customer. They aren't perfect.
Some bank accounts and a credit card don't link, but
they give me a better picture of my overall net
worth than Monarch did. In the end, it comes down
to personal finances and preferences for what works best. Yes,
I talked about how much I love Monarch Money. I

(01:43:38):
still love it. I think it's amazing. It did drop
one of my accounts. Yesterday, I got like a notification
that I said, your account was having some trouble connect connecting.
But that's the first time I've seen that. With all
the other ones, I had so many issues I was
using Rocket Money. I definitely have used Empower. I think
that one's great. I've not tried Fidelity, but again, it's
good to have options. But if you want to see

(01:43:59):
your net worth on one page, monarchy is great, and
power's great, and I guess fidelity as well. You got
to pay for that feature on the Rocket Money. By
the way, Mark writes in I updated to iOS twenty six,
and while there are some cool features, I'm underwhelmed. I
couldn't figure out how to save or share the new
three D photos. Spoiler, you can't. I also turn on
call screening, thinking it would only block spam, but it

(01:44:21):
screened legitimate calls, which is tough since I'm in sales.
Maybe that's my fault for not fully understanding the setting.
But overall, I'm not finding the total value yet. I
understand that it might take some time to warm up.
And yes, there the call screening feature is great, but yes,
if you're in any sort of business where you rely
on random people calling you, probably not the best thing.

(01:44:42):
Frank and Alcoholane says, love your show. I look forward
to listening to the podcast every Sunday while walking my dog.
Just be careful not to turn into an Apple fanboy.
You've been pretty balanced lately, but the last couple of
newsletters have been loaded with iPhone coverage. Crazy how Apple
gets credit for catching up, and then you gave Meta's
new ray band display glasses only one sentence, even though

(01:45:05):
they might actually point towards a future where we don't
even need phones. Frank, I'm not turning into an Apple fanboy.
I was covering what happened with Apple, and there's a
lot of stuff so I get invited to Apple events.
Meta has yet to invite me to an event, so
that's why I didn't cover the ray band display glasses completely.
But I did have a guest on the show that

(01:45:26):
was at the event, and so you know, I do
try to be balanced, and I think I do a
pretty good job at that. Thank you, though, and I'll
thanks for keeping on my toes. Gerald writes in thanks
for finally giving Apple some love. Oh we just had
someone say I'm an Apple fanboy. Now we have thanks

(01:45:46):
for finally giving Apple some love. Usually praise Samsung more.
I used to hate Apple and was all in on Android,
but after my Samsung phones kept breaking down after two years,
I switched to iPhone and have never looked back. I
bought the iPhone sixteen Pro and now wish i'd waited
for the seventeen Pro. Honestly, what I notice a big difference.
I went from a twenty twenty se to the sixteen Pro,

(01:46:06):
which is already a huge jump. I love your show.
Keep up the good work, Like I say, if it
is working for you, Gerald, stick with it. You made
a big leap. The iPhone sixteen Pro is still a
fantastic device. You still get iOS twenty six Oh wait,
am I starting to sound like a fanboy. No, it's
a great phone. Look if it was cheap to upgrade

(01:46:27):
to the seventeen Pro, like you know, one hundred dollars
or less, I'd say go for it. But it sounds
like you keep your phones for a while. You'll be
just fine. Let's see. Noel writes in I'm glad you
made it through your recent car crash. I had a
similar experience when I was younger, something I wouldn't wish
on anyone. Yes, I want to share a cool site.
Satellitemap dot space attracks all the STARLINGK satellites, including failed

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and degraded ones. Pilots also see some interesting satellite activity
on approach flights before sunrise. Some of us think it
could actually be NASA's Starling program, a swarm of cube
SATs testing autonomus coordination in orbit at his way above
my pay grade. But satellitemap dot space sounds pretty cool. Yes,
you can see all the satellites. Mariel writes in your

(01:47:09):
show is so helpful and amazing. Just want to say
thank you, Mariel. Salvador more love, he says, thanks for
all your help. Love you on KTLA and I listen
to your podcast. Thank you Salvador for doing that. And
Doug writes in I love your shows on KFI and KTLA.
You're the best. Oh my gosh, let's just leave it there.

(01:47:29):
Thank you, Doug. That's gonna do it for this episode
of the show. As always, you can find links to
everything I mentioned on my website. Just go to rich
on tech dot tv. If you haven't already figured it out,
you can find me on social media. I am at
rich on tech check out my Instagram. That's where I
am most of the time. Next week, we've got Steven Robles,
tech journalist and content creator. He had a viral video

(01:47:52):
recently about how to set up this shortcut on your
iPhone if it gets stolen to take a picture and
like send you a message. So we'll talk to him
and a friend of the show, Mark Vina, a principal
analyst at Smart Tech Research. He's going to talk about
some of the gadgets he loves. Thank you so much
for listening. There are so many ways you can spend
your time. I do appreciate you spending it right here
with me. One reminder before I go, please do not

(01:48:15):
drive distracted for your safety and the safety of everyone
around you. Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible.
We got Bobo, we got Kim, We got my mom
doing music. My name is rich Dmiro. I will talk
to you real soon.

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