Hoisting Husbands, Colonial Genderbending, & Sex to Save The World: A Ridiculous Goody Bag

This goody bag is bursting! We finally get to talk about Chris Martin & Gwyneth Paltrow’s conscious uncoupling and somehow get into Rebecca Black’s Friday - and that’s all before the theme song! Then it’s the clever wives from the Siege of Weinsberg, Fet-Mat’s preserved corpse, an intersex person’s colonial calamity, and making ecological porn for Mother Earth. Absolutely STUFFED!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Body yady yady yady, yadyadyada. That's all I know is
that body yadayaddy is.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
What is that? Come on? You know it?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Body YadA YadA YadA, yady yady yady. It's Meghanese Stallions.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's correct. I got it.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's contemporary.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
You got it right. Good job.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
You didn't know.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I knew. I was no idea, my Megan.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I could have said anything, just then, Well, I could
have said Depeche Mode.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Actually, I would listen to Depeche Modes cover of Body
by Meganese Stallion.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
My body, the audist Body.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I don't think that's what Meganistall is saying.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
But okay, well, no, that's Depeche Modes cover.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
That's their version. Yeah, there's something kind of cool about
listening to covers of songs from completely different genres where
they're like fully re arranged, Like postmodern jukebox is a
good example.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, but there's tons of them, and it's it's always
really fun.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
There was kind of a joke about all the tweet
ukulele like white Girl covers of rap songs, yeah, which, yeah,
that got a little boring, But there's totally totally some
really cool covers out.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
There, really into For a while, there was a series
called picking On, and it'd be like picking on the shins,
picking on, that's cool, Maggoty's tying. I don't know if
they ever did make an these sing but it was
all bluegrass covers of pop music at the time, early
two thousands. It was it was good stuff. I liked it.
I'm not you know, I don't go looking for bluegrass,

(01:42):
but it's cool to hear I know this song, but
it's the banjo cover.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Right, and like a different, different vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Like what if Old Chrome Medicine Show did Cold Play?
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh, what if you just come out with yellow Wagon?
We all Yellow?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Actually, when I was learning guitar and the twelve songs
that I learned, I did do a country version of
yellow Oh really a country version, but like, yeah, bluegrassy
because it's a way i'll tell you why. It's a
way easier strumming pattern than anything slightly complicated. I was like,

(02:20):
I can't play most of these songs, but I can
play them. If I didn't Getting Geting Getting Game alone,
wrote a song for.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
You get the twang in there? Oh that yep? I
love that.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I just got charged thirty two million dollars from Chris Martin.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I don't think they make.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Who's conscious uncoupling? We have not yet covered on this show,
but I looked into it, and I'll tell you here's
why I haven't done Gwynethoucher and Chris Martin story on
this show. It was kind of boring. What it just
wasn't that much to it, like that.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
The the two world were boring together.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, the news batting around the term conscious uncoupling is
how they and that was silly. That is, it was
very Gwyneth. Other than that, it's really not very much
to the story is like a couple separated amicably.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Okay, I don't know conscious uncoupling. I guess they just
felt like breakup was too violent or something. Yeah, so
it was like, no, we're both amicably fine with it,
and we decided as a couple to not be a couple.
So we want a different phrase than break up, which

(03:34):
I do get. I guess i'm conscious uncoupling. Maybe it's
just because Gwenneth said it. It seems one pretentious and
it was intolerable.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Literally waiting to jump in with that because if like
some if I'm at a party and someone's like, well, yeah,
me and Ryan we we I don't want to say
we broke up, but we just like, you know, we uncoupled,
like we consciously uncoupled. Yeah, I'd be like, Okay, I
totally get what you mean by that. That's a you know,

(04:02):
it's a unique way of putting in and I you
have communicated the emotion, like the meaning that you're trying
to communicate. I get what you mean. Yeah, but the
fact that Gwyneth Paltrow said it made me. It's just like,
oh my god, woman.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Now it's like a rock for your regina or whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
And it's like, no, I do feel hot take. Sometimes
I feel a little bad for Gwyneth Paltrow because I
do think that generally she wants to be a kind person.
She wants to put goodness into the world. But she
she can't help that she's so disconnected from reality because

(04:40):
she she's rarely experienced it. It's you know, her parents
are rich and famous. She grew up Gwyneth Paltrow and
now she's Gwyneth Paltrow. And you know, downvote is because
she's really profited off of you know, some snake Yeah,
that people like genuinely believe in, and I don't know,

(05:00):
maybe people are getting helped from it. Some people are
helped by snake oil sometimes those people like it turned
my life around, even it's placebo effect, whatever it helped me.
I'm not gonna say those people are wrong. But she's
asking for a lot of money from people and telling
them I can cure you. So that's where I don't
like Whatneth Paltrow. But I don't think she's nefarious. I

(05:23):
think she's just a little clueless about what that Like
that grocery store trip I remember during the pandemic, She's like,
here's what I can buy with It's so difficult for
people who only have twenty dollars. At the grocery store.
I could only get six limes.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Like, why did you get that many lime?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
How am I supposed to live this week?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You went to like boutique cool foods, not even whole food,
but like the rich people whole food. It's like an
avocado costs fifteen bucks or some shit. I'm like, what
is this meal?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's just a banana, Michael, what could it cost ten dollars?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
That Gwyneth Paltrow no, I think you're right. What is that?
Is it Handlan's razor or something. It's that philosophical like
a Ockham's razor, but it's a razor where you're supposed
to not assume malicious intent, where you can where you
can say something was ignorance or or just incompetence or something,

(06:20):
you can't assume maliciousness something like that. I'm not saying
it well, but it's yeah. And I like that because
I was like, it's true. It feels like the problem
with the Internet and the way it's making us talk
to each other is that you have to you just
immediately assume malicious rightness, and it's like you're trying to
be as as fucked up as you can be right now,

(06:42):
when in fact, most of the time people are just
being thoughtless or like, I literally don't know what you're
talking about. And for some reason I felt the need
to type that. I don't know why, but people do
do that. Just want to say to everyone out there,
it is always an option to shut the fuck up,
like you can just not contribute to a conversation. That

(07:05):
is literally it is peace too. It is claim your piece.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh my god, do not It's been involved. This is
like your one of your key things, and I love it.
It's very true, and I've exercised that. I'll tell y'all
that if you if you've done it, you know, there
is no feeling quite like writing something out in response
to someone on any social media forum and then deleting

(07:29):
it before you post it. It's like, Oh, I'm free
because I have this sometimes where I think about the
reply I want to put on the Internet to someone.
I want to I want to push back against something
someone said. Maybe I'm not even trying to do an
argument whatever, And I look forward into the future just
a couple hours like this evening at six pm. There

(07:50):
are two versions of me. One of them posted this comment,
one of them did not. Their lives are exactly the
same lives, except one of them is still irritated, one
of them is still thinking about it, one of them
still maybe even still in it in the in the argument.
The other one has totally moved on and probably doesn't

(08:12):
even remember the conversation to begin with. And I want
that guy's life, Yes, And it's a it's a better life,
I promise you all, it's a better A better life
waits for you. Wrinkles, his blood pressure is lower. That
guy is doing better, right, He's got time.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
To like work out or cooked a good meal because
he's not sitting there furiously typing with his thumbs and
getting a million notifications from ye dick. He didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, he went on to some other posts and said, hey,
good job today, friend, And that's it, and then you
feel good about that. You're like, man, I hope I
brightened someone's day a little bit.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I know true. I will say whenever I've ever as
you are saying, when you're typing out some long ash
response to something I've noticed, I'm like, ooh, I'm typing
this so poorly, Like all my typos are really bad,
like so bad that autocorrect doesn't even know what the
fuck I'm talking about at this point. And that's when

(09:12):
I go, you know what, girl, Like, let's just delete.
You're clearly either don't know what you're trying to say,
so you're not saying it well, or you're too emotional
so you're saying it a little too like you know
what I mean, you're too worked up, so you're not
typing very clearly. That means you're not communicating clearly, and
there's no point in getting involved in this. You just

(09:34):
need to did that that delete, Get the fuck off
that app go outside, touch some grass. We have a
friend who puts up a weekly like music challenge. His
name's Nate. I think he listens to high nats.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
He always tagged me, which I appreciate because they're always
really fun to roll through. And this week's was a
hot take. He said, please put your just hottest of
hot take and then please argue. I want y'all to
really defend your specific music, specifically about music. And somebody said,
I was not bothered by Rebecca Black's Friday you gotta

(10:09):
get down on Friday. If anyone remembers that it was
from like a billion years ago, you forget. But it was,
you know, just a silly was she like fifteen or something.
Tops she puts out this song where she's talked about
hanging out with her friends on Friday, and it wasn't
like a fantastic piece of music, but it was a bop.
It had you know, it's kind of catchy. But everybody,

(10:30):
I mean, she became super viral and people were really
making fun of her.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
On the internet.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Really and yeah, a lot of people. I didn't. I
thought it was fine. I don't know. I hated her
so much and one of our friends was like, yeah,
people should really leave teenage girls alone. Just let them,
just let them be.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
She just tried to put out a little stupid video
with her friends, and she d up with like way
more attention than she ever ever dreamed of getting. For that.
That was probably a little fun thing that she was doing.
Can you just let people be and let people live?
Just trying to make something fun with her friends. She
could have gone out and done crack cocaine, and instead

(11:11):
she decided to make a fun hit.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I could do one of two things today.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
There are too I could think a.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Hit song for you too that's not that good, or
I could do crack cocaine.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm just saying crack cocaine's always on the list of options,
and if you don't choose it, that day is a win.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yes, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I guess if
I needed to, I could go find some.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I don't know that I could find crack cocaine.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I mean, we live in Atlanta, Like, I don't think
we'd have to go far as all. I'm saying you're right. Yeah.
Like if a doctor came in right now and was like,
Diana's got an hour to live unless she smoked some
crack cocaine, I'd be like, I'll be right back talk.
I know where to get I don't even need the car.
I'll be back in fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
You think you could buy crack cocaine.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, we're not far from the bell, right, we could.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
We could find crack cocaine.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Line, well, I'm glad we don't want to, though, So
do not reach out and tell us how to find
crack cocaine.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Because we don't need it. Diana will live many years without.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
It, I certainly hope.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
So. I know we've got quite an intro today. But
I was going to say that I did go to
the movies last night.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
You did.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I didn't saw Blue Beetle, But without Diana.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
It's weird to go. Yeah, not have seen it with you.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, you weren't feeling well and my dad, you and
me and my dad were going to go because my
mom's out of town and she didn't want to see it,
and we just figured, well, we're going to do something
trying to get your dad out of the house yet,
but yeah, you were feeling well. So it was just
h just a boys night.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
That's nice.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'll tell you what. When the bank's boys cut loose.
We uh. We went to our favorite bar and had
I had a black bean Burger's delicious. My dad had
a some kind of salmon.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew it because he always talked
he loves it.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
He loves it. And yeah, it was pretty wild. We
had I think three Guinnesses between the two of us.
He had too, I had one, yes, yeah, I know
who had to. And yeah, then we went and saw
kids movie, so pretty wild. You know, when the heads away,
the roosters get cut loose, I'm telling you pretty good.

(13:23):
I thought the supporting cast was awesome. The lead was great.
I love that guy.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I love him. But it's just for the stupidest reason.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
It's not a stupid reason, it's a great reason.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
It was like in twenty seventeen or something and Fringe
put on our first five fifth shows the inter Festival,
and we to take a movie, classic film that you
know everyone's seen, and split it into five parts and
give each part to five different groups, and then in
one day you see the most unique retelling of the
show of all time, and the first one we ever

(13:54):
did was Karate Kid and happened to be when Cobra
Kai was filming here in Atlanta, and so Ralph Maccio
came to see the show.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I sure did.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Thank you, Ralph, that was really nice to you.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
In the show in our our theater group section, I
was playing Daniel Son and for that we.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Also made it.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
They also made mister Miyagi instead of Bonzi trees, he
had weed plants and they really liked that. All the
producers were there too of Cobra Kai, and and Soolo
thank you was also in Cobra Kai. He also came
to the show, had a great time whatever. And then

(14:37):
like years later, a friend of ours is like, I
think a makeup or hair person something on Blue Beetle
and is doing sholos like makeup or hair and says
something about, oh you uh, you were in Atlanta for
Cobra Kai. Did you like Atlanta? And he says, well, yeah,
I don't really remember except this one show that I

(14:58):
saw at this church. They did this weird karate kids show.
It was so good and she they told me, and
I was like a fing out thing. He remembers about Atlanta.
It's my show. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
So Diana's now his biggest like show is the.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Main He's my favorite superhero ever.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, well he.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Doesn't I hope he doesn't do something really problematic one day.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
He's a charmer. He's got star power. I'm looking forward.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I have heard that he's really Yeah, he really carries
that film very well.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
We haven't watched Cobra Kai. I know we.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Really Shore's it's been on this shows.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
We don't need to tell you y'all know, all right?
Speaking of TV shows, I don't know if you guys
remember Alias.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Where are we going with this?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Stay with me because I'm just going to relate it
back to what we're doing right now, because I remember
when you and I watched Alias, and what was so
weird with that show. Sometimes they'd beat eighteen or twenty
minutes into the episode, and then the opening credits would
come up, like multiple scenes and then into the block

(16:05):
then the Alias theme song would start.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh we haven't.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Done that yet.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I remember I remember distinctly one time watching and like
we were like in our bed or something, and that
happened and we both were like.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
The episode was almost.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
There's like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Left, like they'd already resolved whatever, you know, espionage they
were doing.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
She'd already taken the wig off, right.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So anyway, eat your heart out, change abrams, because that's
what we're doing today. But we gotta let's say, it's
been a minute. We got a lot of we got hate,
we got a lot of projects in the work. We're
gonna be telling you all about soon, cool stuff, can't we.
But but today we do have a ridiculous promise to
talk about more than.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's right, because yeah, I was just recently going through
our list, which y'all know the list, the mystical list, So.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
It just it's like our TV list. It just keeps
getting bad.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
It is so long, you guys. It's like four hundred
plus names on it, couples on it. But yeah, we
went through a couple that were kind of short, but
they were still like really fun, cool, ridiculous romances that
we want to share with you. We couldn't nix them completely,
so we decided to just throw them together into a
nice goodie bag for you. This is it the end

(17:20):
of the birthday party, and you're getting your little erasers
and oh and your little can.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
That's your goodie bag. I always thought of getting kicked
right in the goodie bag. That's what I always think
of for our show.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
And okay, I'm over here giving away pencils. But all right,
you guys, kicking you in the nuts, whichever one you prefer, encil.
Some people like to get kicked the best. Some people
love it. Well, this goodie bag is really fun. It
goes from medieval Germany to colonial America to seventeen hundred Sweden,

(17:54):
and then to Norway in two thousand and four. I say,
let's get to it.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Hey, their friends come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got
some joy to tell. There's no match making, a romantic tips.
It's just about ridiculous relation ship, a love.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
There might be any type.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Of person at all, and abstract concept or a concrete wall.
But if there's a story worth the second Clans so
ridiculous romance.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
A production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
So we're gonna start with the siege of Weinsburg.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Weinsberg, Weinsburg. Oh, ladies, Am I right? We've all sieged?
Winesburg went through twice after a long day.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I don't know. Winesburg has seized me. That's for sure.
This is before Germany was Germany, guys, Because in eleven
thirty seven the Holy Roman Emperor Lothair the Second died
and they're.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Star wars name Loath the Second. I guess you're right,
Emperor Loath.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
And he looked a lot like Grievous. So there needed
to be a new Holy Roman Emperor.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know, you know Grievous.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh, I know what he looks like.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Okay, I love this look.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
The Holy Roman Emperor Grievous died.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
General Kenoby.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
History would be more interesting if there are more weird
sidebords now, all right, So there needed to be a
new Holy Roman Emperor. You can't have a Holy Roman
Empire without a Holy Roman Emperor. So at the time
there were these two really powerful dynasties, the vez and
the Hohenstaufen. I'm sorry, and I don't care if they

(19:32):
don't stand like that. That soundsome.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I think they do. That's just what makes Germans such
an amazing.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
But it might be Howen stealfen Well, the vels Heir
Henry the Proud was a Bavarian duke. He had also
been made the Duke of Saxony. He was married to
Lothair's daughter. He had been with Lothair when he died,
so he possessed the crown jewels. Basically, this guy was
a sus ooo or powerful candidate, and he stood for

(20:03):
election as the King of the Romans, which is already
very interesting to me that they elected the King of
the Romans and I didn't know that, but that's cool.
But local princes did not like Henry the Proud because
of all the things that made him be called Henry
the Proud. Apparently they were like, this guy's real high
in the end step or something.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
It's like, I'm just proud, I'm not a hogen Stalfen.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh I hate that. So they elected the Hohenstaufen candidate,
who was named Conrad the Third, and Conrad told Henry, listen,
return the royal jewels. Henry said, no problem, I will
do it. You can be the Holy Roman Emperor. All
I want is to keep the Duke of Saxony the
Duchy of Saxony, because Lothair made me the duke and

(20:50):
you need to ratify it or whatever, okay, And Conrad
was like, I don't like that if you have two
duchies or whatever. They're duchies, douchees.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Don't get too douchey.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
You can't get too douchey around Conrad. But he said,
no bodyship two dukedoms or whatever. That concentrates too much
power into one set of hands. But not only did
he not let him keep the Duke of Saxony, he
also took away his Duke of Bavaria territories, He took
away all everything man, and he gave both of them

(21:24):
to a guy named Leopold, which is also really weird
because he just said nobody can have two Oh but
except for my friend Leopold.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, so that really pissed off Henry. Politics just hasn't changed,
not at all. I'm gonna seriously punish my former candidate
and rival and reward my friend with the exact thing
I just said shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Legal, right exactly. So Conrad the third.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Was he an American senator, really.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
A modern guy kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I'm the best duke, I'm the best emperor that Germany's
ever had. Everybody says, so.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
It was a perfect, the perfect just like me.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I am all right. Well, okay, so Henry the Proud
is feeling a little burnt by.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
All this, and as I would as well.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
His loyal subjects in Saxony and Bavaria were none too
happy about it either. So with their support behind him,
Henry the Proud rose up against Conrad and said time
for a war.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, Henry actually died in eleven thirty nine, so he
didn't get too far into this war. But his son,
Henry the Lion, Uh not actually a lion, just disclaimer,
it's just lion. Like. He was like, I'm picking up
the mantle. My dad started this war, I'm going to
continue it. And he continued the conflict himself. He's still

(22:47):
supported by all the Saxons. So King Conrad is getting
sick of this shit, and he decided that he was
going to besiege the city of Weinsberg, where Henry lived,
and he was going to destroy it and imprison everyone
who defended it. A against him, He'll just punish anybody who.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Sports this guy scor policy.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Now, Weinsberg was not able to last against Conrad's army,
so they negotiated a surrender in eleven forty. Now, under
the terms they agreed upon, Conrad said, okay, well we're
taking the city. We're imprisoning all the men. But the
women are allowed to leave and take what hover they
can carry with them. That's the rules I'm setting You

(23:28):
pick it up, you you can carry it, you can
take it. Go get out of here, ladies.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
You sounds so much like Frau Blucher right now. I
just keep excited to be like, ohverty over.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
It feels very doctor scratch and sniff to me at
any rate, parody German accent, terrible. My apologies to all
the great people of Germany.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
All right, well, According to the Latin chronicle Chronicle Reggia Coloni,
which was compared in the eleven seventies, the women heard
this decree, they kind of thought about it for a minute.
They look around all their homes and worldly possessions, probably
exchanged a couple of glances, and looked back at the
hohen staff an army, like you said, anything we could carry?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Mm hmm, that's what we said, Oh great.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
And then they hoisted their husbands onto their shoulders and
carried them out of the town. Oops, you got got
Oh my god, I think that's amazing. Anything I can carry, well,
I'm gonna carry my man. She put him across their shoulders.
Like a furtle, and so I can't took him the

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fuck away from fines.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Hey, the women of Finsberg, they can lift.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
They must be sturdy, yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
The men of Weinsberg a light anyway.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
One of Conrad's dukes protested this, but as the chronic
estates quote, the king, showing favor to the women's cunning,
said that it would not be fitting to change his
royal words incredible, So he let him get away with this.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Oh, ladies, that's pretty clever.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I've learned about a loophole.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Next time you got me. What can I say? I'm
not too big to admit it now.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Listen though. This is kind of interesting to me though,
because I feel like Conrad was likely like, well, now
you're my subjects. Why do I not want awesome, badass
intelligence subjects? All right, ladies, get up in here, become
part of the whole and stuff and family or whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah. Plus, I'm sure that they you know, I don't know,
he just besieged their city. But the fact that he
was like, okay, all right, I'm gonna let you have
this one, you know, it probably made it a little
less hard to subjugate them. It's true, they're probably like that.
He was nice enough to, Oh, you.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Know, he was gonna let me keep my tea towels whatever.
I don't know what they have.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
There was least wife of Winesburg who looked at her
husband and her tea towels. Wow, it's a really nice teatowel.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
All right, She's like, I just stuffed this very nice
down mattress, and I don't think I should babe it.
So there were two to pick from.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
We each got one. Incredible. You can't script that book.
This the kind of gold we get every day when
the mites are of Oh all right, well, this incredible
story became known as the Loyal Wives of Winesburg and
the Castle Ruins are today known as the weiber Troy,

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which means wifely loyalty. Cute, but most people likely recognize
this story because it was a plotline in the hit
film Ever After starring Drew Barrymore, where her character saves
her prints in the exact same way.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's true. Yeah, she like lifts them off a horse.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Also, a peace agreement apparently between the Velfs and the
Hopenstaufins was finally reached in eleven forty two, Just in
case you're about the political curious about the political ending
of this story.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
We all, it doesn't really matter because neither of them
around but anymore, but didn't last. But surely the hohen
Staffins were like, all right, well, so you guys some
pretty dead people, So let us let us sit down.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
That a great story.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I love it. I obsessed.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
All right, Well, let's turn our heads from Germany to Sweden.
Some more high quality accents coming on here, We're gonna
look at the Fallon Copper Mind or Falloon Copper Mind.
This place operated for a full millennium from the tenth
century until nineteen ninety two, which is crazy that it

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lasted till just seven years ago. That's wild, just just
seven years ago ninety two? Wow? Wow, is crazy how
time goes by. Well, this place supplied more than two
thirds of the world's copper, right, so you can imagine
this is like a you know, a pretty giant operation,
going pretty deep into the mountain to get a long Yeah.

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And on December two of seventeen nineteen, workers opened up
a long unused tunnel in the mine and they found
the body of a dead man inside. Both of his
legs were amputated and missing. But his clothes, skin, and
hair were all intact. He looked like he just died
pretty recently. But no one had been reported missing, not

(28:44):
in the mine or anywhere else nearby. So they pulled
the body out of the mine, you know, try and
figure out what's going on in here. And then things
got even weirder because once the body was out in
the open air, it started to harden, almost like it
was turning to stop, and they started calling it the
petrified miner. I was a petrified miner when I was

(29:09):
a Jurassic Park I was ten years old, went to
the theaters and escaped me.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Oh, I was once a petrified miner. Listen, if I
had to go into a mine, I would also be
a petrified miner.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
True, at an age, any age.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
At any time. I don't want to go into a mine.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Now, maybe maybe you know the felon copper workers or
whoever wanted to figure out who this guy was, or
maybe somebody just had an eye for a dollar.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
No.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
For some reason, it was decided to put the petrified
miner's body on display, and one day a local named
Margaret Old's daughter went to see it, and, imagine her surprise,
she gazed on the hardened, intact face of this miner
and realized she knew exactly who it was. It was

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her fiance, Matt's Israel's watch. By the way, fat matts
means fat Matt oh. Okay, so his name was just
Matt oh. And I guess he was a little there.
There were three mats. I hate fat mat He's like, yeah,
proud of it, right. But this was even weirder because
fat fat Matt had not disappeared recently at all. Margaret

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informed the authorities that he had actually disappeared in March
sixteen seventy seven, forty two years before he was found
looking perfectly preserved in this tunnel. What so, what is
going on here?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Creepy?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Well, we're going to tell you right after we hear
these fine words welcome back.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Okay, So real spooky stuff here. A body was found
in a mine, looking pretty fresh, looking ripe. It comes
outside and it turns to stone, and the only person
to claim she knew who it was says it was
her fiance who disappeared forty two years earlier. Well, what

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the miners had found was actually a natural mummy, and that's,
of course when a body is unintentionally preserved by environmental
factors like extreme cold temperatures or low oxygen environments like bogs.
If anyone remembers our recripulous romance episode about the bog

(31:34):
body murder, fet Mattz is a lot like the Natural
Mummy from that episode that tricked poor Peter into confessing
that he'd killed his wife. That's right, that's a great episode. Oh,
it's so good. So Fet Matts actually had died decades before,
and he was just naturally preserved by the mine. So
they did what any logical, forward thinking town would do,

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and they put his body on display and charged tickets
to come see him for another thirty years. One Swedish naturalist,
Carl Linnaeus went to see him and suggested, Oh, this guy,
he's not petrified. He's actually covered in vitriol, which is
so known as copper sulfate.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Nandor is cute you doing in here?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
You will all forget that I ever did this accent.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I wish I could.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I wish it was the people of Sweden also, So anyway,
he's saying, this wasn't petrified, but it was covered in
this copper sulfate. And once the copper sulfate was cleaned
off the body, he said it would start to decay naturally.
They did, and it did, which if I hope they

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opened a window.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Seriously, the man disgusting, but for a guy who never
got married, that match inspired a lot of lovers. So
after Margaret identified him, a second woman allegedly came forward,
also claiming to be his fiance, which could have been
a fun triangle for us to dive into, but most

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people thought that she was just doing it to collect
miners widow's benefits.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh wow, she was just lying.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
And also, while fet Mats was on display for thirty years,
he became a really big inspiration for German romanticists. They
wrote like short stories and ballads about him. Wagner even
wrote a libretto about him in eighteen forty two. So then,
finally fet Mats was buried in seventeen forty nine and
rested in peace until the eighteen sixties when the church

(33:43):
was doing some renovations. They unearthed beet Mats once more,
and maybe somebody had an eye for a dollar because
they decided to put him back on display.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
What he can't have looked very good at that.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Okay, Like I don't know. But anyway, in the nineteen
thirties he was finally finally laid to rest in the
church's graveyard. Okay, so for somebody who died unknown, unbeknownst
to anyone. In sixteen seventy seven, he kind of got around.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Do we know why his limbs were all missing?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Like speculation station? Okay, this is gory, Okay, but I'm
imagining gets shut up in a tunnel, he doesn't die
right away. Did he eat his own legs, ate.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
His own limbs.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Or I don't know how, maybe gets stuck under a
rock fall or something. It's like a twenty seven hour situation.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I was wondering if his limbs decayed before they were
before his body.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Was preserved, but why how would it have done that?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, you know, I don't lose all the temperature in
your arms and legs first, like I know geologists.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
You lose all the temperature.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, I mean your arm's cool off first because
they're not at the center of your body. That's science.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Probably that's something like I don't know, I don't know,
but I was definitely like the implications are dark. Yeah,
maybe guy eat by rats or something.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Rats.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
We're talking to mine. It could be anything in.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
That kind of stuff in mind, but a water filled.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Tunnel, so oh there was some water in there. I
don't know. It's very interesting scientifically.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Though, what can happen in forty two years?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Very true?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well gross?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
And I also wonder about Margaret old Statta because it's
like forty two years went by since her fiance disappeared.
Huh did she ever get married? Because she clearly didn't care.
She's like, oh, yeah, this's my fiance. But I mean,
y'all keep looking at him. I don't care about that.
Oh man, so I'm like a shitty boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Speculationation he was a shitty boyfriend. She chopped off all
his limbs and threw him in the mine. Oh shit,
but she was smarter than Peter. When they found him.
She didn't confess, that's right. She was like, I don't know,
you got god, he disappears long ago.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
How weird. That's that kind of thing about history that
makes me happy. Is it just evidence of little nicknames?
Oh yeah, you know things like that. We're just like,
this is just a guy who would go hang out
after work, you know, and everyone's like, he is that mad, he's.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
A club you know, what a fun what a not
fun story? I don't know. I almost said what a
fun story? That little last bit was fun, That last.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Bit was fun.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Pretty horrific, Poor Fett, I would say the opposite of fun,
poor f Matt. Yeah, weird. All right, Well, let's move
a little forward in history backwards. Let's move somewhere in history.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Backwards, little backwards.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Sorry, I guess that's yeah, that's fine. We love going
back in time. Yeah, go, I'm back and we're going
to the sixteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
England Thomasine Hall. She was born in Newcastle upon Tyne
right around the year sixteen hundred. This person was raised
as a woman. She was wearing women's clothes, doing women's
work like making lace. No exclusively for women, only a
lady's job. But in sixteen twenty four Thomasine had enough

(37:03):
of that. She chopped off her hair. She changed her
name to Thomas, and they followed their brother into the
army when England declared more on Spain. But then this
Thomas left the army, came home, grew the hair back
out and said, nope on Thomasine again.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Time to make some lace.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Time to get back to making lace. I did was
a soldier for a while. Going back to lace making,
one of these things is more comfortable than the other.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Making lace is hard work, all right.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah. Now, in sixteen twenty seven they decided to travel
to colonial Virginia, and then again they became Thomas Hall,
dressing in men's clothes. And that's because traveling as a
single woman wasn't super comfortable or safe, and also because
Thomasine intended to be an indenture, that is, someone who

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worked for free in the New World in exchange for
their passage over. That contracts very eat. I know a
lot of people were taking advantage of in this system,
but usually there was a seven year indenture, and of
course male indentures were worth more than females. Uh so
they could pay off their debt more quickly because you

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had to make a lot of lace.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Ship ticket, clean, a lot of scruble, lot of chamber pots.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
So when Thomas got to Virginia, they dressed like a man,
they acted like a man. They did hard labor in
the fields cultivating tobacco plant But then Thomasine started alternating
their appearance. They would dress as a man one day
and as a woman the next. And that just caused
a lot of drama in this small colonial village.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Right. I was gonna ask, is this like Missus Doubtfire,
where she's pretending that there's two different people, or she's
just like today, I'm Thomas, today I'm Thomasine.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I think it was more like that. It was just like,
you know, today, I'm wearing the apron, get used to
doing some sweeping.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Tomorrow I'm making your lace, I'm scrubbing your pots, whatever,
and I'm picking the tabat checked it up.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
You know what I mean? I contain multitude.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
If anyone's ever said this.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Multitude, sue are contradict myself.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
So yeah, this this is just Couslona tra I mean,
we're talking about Puritans here. So anything anyone doing anything
out of the ordinary at any time was like, oh shit,
something's going down. We got to all get together and
talk about this whatever. And then, to make matters worse,
rumors started flying that Thomasine had slept with a maid.

(39:37):
Now this could be a really big problem. If Thomasine
was a man, was Thomas, they were guilty of fornication
and they needed to be punished absolutely, because this is
a very punished based religion s. But if Thomasine was
a woman, then funnily enough, no crime had been committed
at all. Ladies sleeping with ladies, puritans, no problem. They

(40:01):
were like, no sex is happening. They just were laying
together in a bed, sometimes on top of each other,
sometimes not.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
If you can't have sex, if the thing's not going
inside the thing, what else could that be? Ow?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Oh, they were roommates, they're just very good friends. So
they really need to find out if Thomas was thomas
or if Thomasin was Thomasine. They had to know for sure.
So three very respected women examined Thomasin and they came
out and they said, that's a man, no question about it.
That is one percent of dude.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Wow. Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
But then Thomasin's employer, John Tyne, who owned the indentures,
said no, no, no, Thomasine's a woman. Thomasin works for me.
They do woman stuff. I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Then things got even more complicated because another farmer named
John Atkins said, I want to buy Thomasine's indenture and
have them work for me, but I'm not going to
buy it unless I know which gender they are. Because
as we already said males are worth more than females,
so that would change Atkins' price. Yeah, and he's like,
I need to know how much you know this person

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is worth, which is a crazy thing to say.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
If I could get a woman's price for that laborer,
for that farm laborer, that I'm it's a good deal, right,
women in it?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Now that's true. Maybe that was more it's like, hey,
I a woman, but you can work as a man. Yeah,
that's John Atkins should have been thinking. He wasn't thinking.
He should have been like, yeah, Thomasine, total girl, here's
four dollars. Now I get to do seven dollars worth
of work with you.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Right. So now a third farmer comes in to interview Thomasine,
and Thomasine confessed that they were born with both male
and female genitalia, but quote had not the use of
their male part.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
That's right, they were they were an intersex person right now.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
The farmers all agreed that Thomasine was a woman, but
the three women who had initially examined her were not
happy with that verdict, so they decided that they were
gonna examine Thomasine again, but this time, no heads up,
no no fair warning, or prep time they went in
there to look while Thomasine was asleep, no consent, no warning,

(42:14):
just I'm gonna lift the sheets up here and take
a look for myself. Now. Another time, Thomasine was just
walking down the road and two men decided to examine
them right there in public. Again, no permission.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Now this is crazy to me. They're just walking down
the street and somebody decides to like, I don't know,
throw up their skirt, like throw them on their back
on the streets and just expose their genitals to everybody.
Now I know too that like I believe, at least
in this you know, bodily autonomy was not a thing

(42:47):
like people. You know, it was like your body doesn't
really belong to you, especially if you're a woman. So
I was like, I'm gonna go look at whatever I
can touch and i can look. But this seems insane
for such a conservative society again to just be like
flash the whole village right now, try to figure out
whether you're a man or a woman.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
But you know that's what they're trying to do in
places like Florida and stuff that It's just like I'm
going to I'm first I brought up the shame for it,
and now I'm going to use that against you because
I don't have shame, right, I'm just trying to shame you, right,
And I mean you have.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
To assume if there was no question about what gender
this person was, there's no fucking way that anyone would
let them examine them in the street. Do you know
they would have gotten in trouble for that. But because
they were unusual in some way or another, their body
doesn't belong to them even more, you know what I mean.
So I'm allowed to look at it, touch it, humiliate you,

(43:45):
display it however I want, because it's different than I
think it should be.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
But does it not also feel like at a certain
point that is the long term goal is like I
want to just be able to do that to anyone. Yeah,
I want to be able to you know, it's sort
of a stop and frisk, like, you know, I'm not
really sure what gender you are, so I should be
allowed to look.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
And people out there are not smart. So I saw
somebody staying that women don't have anybody here at all,
including arm hair, So if you have arm hair, you
must be a man. People are sorry, but that is
not true. Yeah, so anyway, it's just upsetting. But this
is you know, American history, y'all goes way back.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah. So these guys that stopped Thomasine on the street
examined and said that thomasin was quote a perfect man.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Well, thank you, that's so nice, me a perfect man. Suddenly,
mishumiliation is good of nice.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Well, it was decided there that Thomas should wear men's clothes,
do men's stuff, go by Thomas, all that, But Thomas
was not going to get away with pretending to be
a woman. Now that we've decided you're a perfect man,
you need to be punished. So in sixteen twenty nine,
they dragged Thomas thomasin to court, right, and this.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Is why know this story. Yes, of course there's court
proceedings recording recordings of this.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
They wanted history to know what they were doing. Yeah,
they thought this is a good idea.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
We need to really make some precedents for some reason
on this. And weirdly, the governor who was deciding everything,
you know, the judge sure I guess injury of the time,
decided that you know, ruled officially that Thomasine was both
male and female, rather than picking one and saying stick

(45:32):
to it. It was like said, you're both.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I'm not sure that we can say the BINARYA is rigid.
Perhaps gender is fluid and the society will construct.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
If only, if only, because that was not the case
at all. That does sound kind of progressive from today's standards,
I guess, But unfortunately, the sentence that Thomasine was given
was that they had to wear both men's and women's clothings,
So they had to wear the shirt and breeches of
a man and the apron and cap of a woman

(46:06):
at all times, Like at all times, that was your
outfit now, And PBS points out that actually this was
kind of the cruelest punishment that the judge could could
have come up with, because it meant that no matter
where Thomasin went in the world, everyone knew they were different.
They couldn't hide anymore. And this was this was a

(46:26):
society that truly prized conformity. You know, you're not supposed
to be out of step with anybody. So this was
a real, real.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Punishment, probably kids giggling in the street, not.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
A moment's piece, you know. Ever again, you know, and unfortunately,
Thomasin disappears from the written record after sixteen twenty nine
after this case was decided. There's nothing else written, so
no idea if they stayed in the village, if they
what happened to them, But you know, no marriage likely
was allowed for them, so they couldn't build a family.

(46:59):
I mean, you know, it just was probably the most
fucked up thing you could have done a scene. And then,
of course, you know, many many, many years later, Catherine
Hepburn would go to jail for wearing pants as well.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Wild wow, But that is just an.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Interesting kind of look at colonial politics and being intersex
in history. I just think that's crazy, fascinating that like
examination in the streets, Yeah all that. Yeah, I'm furious.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I wish I could time travel back to sixteen twenty
nine punch him in the face. Yeah, just a nice
punch in the face. I could. I wouldn't change it
because I don't know how you could change it, but
I would punch him in the face.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I want to go back in time and show them, like,
you know, one of those JQ spreads of Harry Styles. Yes,
I like, look at that future, you losers.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Honestly, in sixteen hundred, they'd probably be like, look, we
left all that court stuff behind for the aristocrats because
they were all wearing lace and yeah, and dresses and
high heels and buckles, and I mean men were very beautiful.
They were very powdered and painted in sixteen seventeen.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, and the women were dirty in their hands making
all that lace.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
More men, probably more more lace than women because they
had little those ruffles.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah. Well they had more money, I will.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
So they probably look at Harry Styles and be like, yeah,
seen it. Whatever, I've seen better embroidery on you know,
Lord Chiswick, but I don't know who that is.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
All right, Well, we're gonna go find a whole Lord
Chiswick was We're going to take a quick break. We
do have one more story for y'all, and we're going
to tell you about how you can have sex to
save the world. We're back with that right after this.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Welcome back. Let me try that again.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Like a parrot about.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Welcome back everybody.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
All right. This one was sent to us by Corn Shaffley,
who suggested that we look into fuck for Forest, who
they said, quote, I had quite an entertaining encounter with them,
but I know it's controversial for good reasons, not exactly
romantic in the strict sense of the word, though smiling.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Oh right, good will, We are going to go into this,
but Karin, you're gonna have to tell us what your
entertaining encounter was, because I still I'm.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Very I want to know, all right. Fuck for Forrest
is an environmental activism organization founded in two thousand and
four by an early twenties Norwegian couple named Tommy Howel
Ellingsen and Leanna Johansen. Now they wanted to do some
good in the world. A lot of early twenties s

(49:50):
folks looking out there for you know, their way to
make a change. Yeah. Sure, And as Tommy says, quote,
we had nothing, just our bodies. You don't even want
to know what they keeping their tuperware? Sorry, good and
ill did. So these two realize that, hey, you know
what makes a lot of money out there, porn, that's right,

(50:12):
So they said, quote, why not use that money for good?
So they told the Norwegian government that they were starting
an alternative environmental activism group. They got some seed money
and they started up a website where you can pay
twenty bucks a month for a subscription to access a
bunch of their sex tapes and photos. Now SFGate dot

(50:33):
Com looked at their stuff, so we didn't have to.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
And they say that it's mostly the quote gentle burning
men esque Tommy and Leona and their friends having sex
in various combinations, often in the outdoors, of course, but
also in sex clubs, apartments, and studios, and that the
content quote runs the gamut from couplings involving vegetables used

(50:58):
as sex toys to performances by scary looking, shaven headed
German goths and is unflinchingly graphic. All right, wow, okay.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
All I can think it was Mac from Always Sunny
being like, now that's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Where because you know how, what was that website again?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Horrific? I can't believe the stuff's out there. Tell me
the website so I can be sure to block it.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
I want to make sure if I have a filter setup.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I don't accidentally log in, create an account and pay
twenty dollars a month. He said, twenty right, is that
American dollars?

Speaker 1 (51:37):
That American organ Well, things got controversial fast, as you
can imagine. When Tommy and Leona went to a music
festival in two thousand and four to promote their organization.
They got on stage with a band called the Coum Shots.
I guess that makes sense. All right, we're on theme here.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
For when or when gar wasn't available.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I guess when is too tame, you call the gumshots.
And they gave a speech about the human impact on forests,
and then they asked the crowd. It was about five
thousand people there, and they asked them how far would
you go to save the world? And you know, everybody's
surely cheering. I'm like, I like the world. I like

(52:27):
the world. Meanwhile, they're taking their clothes off. Oh there's
there's strip speeching, okay, and then they started doing it
on stage while a banner was raised that explained that
they were having sex to save the rainforest, which I guess, yeah,
if you need a reason, I guess public exposure.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I'm like imagining a guy jerking off on the Marta
train being like, no, it's to save the rainforest.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Okay, Well it's not really something you can.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Just say to excuse the public in decency.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
It's not really And yeah, I mean maybe the crowd
for a band called the Coum Shots didn't really have
many objections to this I don't know for sure, but
of course Tommy and Leona got fined ten thousand kroner
or about one thousand, four hundred and seventy dollars apiece.
Wow for a public sex act. Sure, because as you say,

(53:22):
is public in DC. You can't have sex in front
of a lot of people without asking them all first
and making sure everybody's down and there's no kids, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Who wants to get up here and give me a
hand job to save the whales?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I know the whales will really appreciate it. And Tommy
thought that it wasn't very fair that they got fined
because Norway was fighting in a rock and they show
violence on TV every day, and if we had only
said it was performance art, they would have gotten away
with it. A lot of different excuses coming from Tommy. Okay,
another thing, then another, and I was like, none of
these things are related to your public sex act, sir,

(53:57):
About okay.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
We're having sex on stage to fund the military industrial complex.
He would have been fine with that.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I mean, I get his point that, like it's annoying
up in arms about sex when you are fine with
like people's boy murders and bloody stuff, but like still
a bit of a straw man. So you know, obviously
we can tell they don't really respect this court decision
at all. So they showed up in court dressed in

(54:25):
children's clothes. Tommy dropped his pants at one point and
showed his penis. Okay, I'm sure the children's close thing
was like, oh, we're not grown adult, you know what
I mean, Like they were trying to act like it
was being patronizing or something, regulate sex or something. I
imagine that was the message.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Behind right right, you're just treating us like kids, right,
can't handle?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yeah, okay, yeah, and then Tommy you know, dropped his pants,
showed us penis. Very creative.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
He's spreading around out.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
And they're like, not really and it's Norway and they're
probably just like, I don't know, I have seen better.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
For a court case somewhat entertaining. I guess maybe that.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Might be the most interesting court cases.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Only the third time a deck has come out in
the courtroom this year.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Tommy also told the paper Nede Weissen quote, we would
have liked to have fucked here in court as well.
It's a nice space, but we would probably be thrown
in jail.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
So anyway, they left Norway after this, and Fuck for
Forrest made their new headquarters in Berlin.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I love that. That's where his senses kicked in. Yeah,
you know, well, all right, sex, the courtroom is a
little too far.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
That's too much. They'll probably throw us in jail for
fucking in front of all of them for no reason.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It's not like a Cumpshots concert.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Let's be reasonable, which.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I mean, Look, the Cumpshots pull five thousand people. That's
a pretty good crowd.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Well, this is a whole music festival. But that's not
that's not bad though. It still five thousand that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, it's more than we had for any of our
live particulous promurements. Ye, both of them, both of them.
All right. Well. Tommy also says that within three months
of their arrest, they attracted one thousand new subscribers to
their site. In fact, Fuck for Forrest collected one hundred
thousand dollars within their first year from subscriptions, So you

(56:20):
know what, take that. Yeah, fuck the haters.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I'm jealous.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
We're saving the environment here.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
I wish my nonprofit would raise one hundred thousand dollars
in the first year.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Well, you know what you have to do. I will
not participate.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I don't think I'm going to be able to do
that either.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Well, there was only one problem with raising all this money.
None of the environmental nonprofits that they reached out to
would accept this Cross Sex money.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
That's right after this controversy at the Cumshots concert.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
They said, we're gonna need you to figuratively and literally
launder that much. Yes, more, we'll take it.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I mean a good point. We don't know where that's been.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
So they decided that they were going to work out
a way to give the money directly to indigenous people
in Costa Rica and Brazil to purchase and preserve the rainforest.
This again sounds pretty cool in theory. We often think like, man,
if I had all this money, I would just go
on to go hand it to people who needed it.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
It's true because you think about Red Cross or you
know some of the really big ones, and they spend
a lot of their money on administration, right or fundraising
or like stuff, not the thing itself.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Well, that can be really frustrating about charity.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah, I just want to show up with the cash
and give it to who needs it, but a documentary
called Fuck for Forest, whose tagline is have sex, Save
the World, that came out in two thousand and six
and followed them to Peru to give all this money away.
According to critical reviews, Tommy and Leona and their friends
aren't really welcomed there with open arms. The locals, of course,

(57:53):
didn't trust them. No, you just got these very white
I mean, it's as white as you can get it.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
They're dreadhead hippie looking, you know, basically not teenagers, but
very young, very young people.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
And you know, the locals kind of make a point
of telling them that they just showing up with cash
is not really very useful. Their poverty that they're experiencing
is lifelong and generational and has a lot to do,
I'm sure, with people coming in and taking their resources
and stuff like that. So you might buy me some meals,
you might patch a hole in my roof, whatever, But

(58:29):
what they really needed, they said, are jobs and sustainable
sources of income. Right.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
And it's like, you know, I think the Fuck for
Forest people are like, you would buy you know, an
acre of this rainforest and that would be yours now,
and they wouldn't log it, and they couldn't fuck around.
But I imagine the indigenous people are like, you're talking
about a David and Goliath situation where sure we can

(58:56):
buy hectares worth of the fucking rainforest, but if they
want to come through and log it or fuck, they
can do that. Like we don't have power against these
companies that you think. It's not just about ownership necessarily,
even though I'm sure that is a big piece of
the puzzle, yea, not everything. So it was they were
just kind of trying to, i mean, kind of shake

(59:17):
them into reality. I think a little bit.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
I remember in the nineties are like elementary school class
buying an acre of the rainforest or something.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Oh yeah, I'm like, I wonder.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
If that's still there. Did that work? I wonder that
you And also can I go there? And I'll be like, Hi,
it's me from Miss Models first grade class nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
They have like a brick with your name on it.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
I expect nothing less.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
This is your tree. I thank you for your granola
bar money whatever.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
I only well, okay, well, we'll say that documentary does
have some marks against it because critics didn't feel like
it really followed through on that revelation about the indigenous
reaction or if that reality check really did anything for
Tommy and Leona or the other Fuck for Forest members.
So like, you know, we could have used more information,
I think, is what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yeah, or you know, that might have been a better
story overall. It is to be like, so, if y'all
are really going to do this, you need to be intentional, Like,
you know, that's the thing about how they're not. They
don't have a nonprofit in the strict sense of the word, right,
it's not set up like one, but that's kind of
what they want to do, and you need strategy to

(01:00:32):
be a nonprofit. You need to know where the money's going,
how it's being spent, and what's who's being serviced by it,
and it has to be pretty otherwise it doesn't do anything.
It's just money being flown around to different hands that
doesn't really affect make lasting change. So it's really too
bad that it doesn't get into that because it feels

(01:00:54):
like that was really probably what they needed to hear
the most. But controversy around Fuck for Forrest was renewed
and twenty eleven, when three members went up to the
Altar naked and simulated sex during Mass at the Oslo Cathedral.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
In my way, I remember this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, I think like the one of the priests was like,
I just feel sorry for them that they felt the
need to do that or whatever. And the only reason
these three gave was that they quote wanted to express
their love.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
But of course they did get some new subscribers out
of it, so I imagine they just do these stunts
to like kind of call attention to them, the organization,
and get some more people to the site.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Mass at the Oslo Cathedral. Oh, I just wanted to
express them. Let me give you a list of places
you could express your love. Right, that's not the center
of a you know of a big family event.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Like a religious ceremony, a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Religious ceremony, bedrooms right, public bathrooms, common place comshots, performances.
You know, you just go to a concert. There's plenty
of opportunities. You guys chose Mass.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
They were trying to get some inks billed about them
and get some folks to the website. I'm not mad
at them or anything for that. It just seems annoying
that they would go. I don't I'm not a religious person.
The organized religions are usually used for evil, this seems
to be these days, and greed, and so I don't
find them to be super sacred, but a lot of

(01:02:26):
people do. And if they're at mass at a cathedral,
you know, that's just disrespectful in a way that's kind
of unsavory to me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
It's a lot of places that I don't necessarily respect
the institution, but I'm not going to go and disrupt it.
Like I sat nice and quietly through that entire DC
movie last night.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
You sure did you know?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
And actually I was pleasantly surprised. So I could have
caused a ruckus.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
I could have made trouble. So Fuck for Forrest is
still in operation today according to their website, which is
fuck Forforest dot com. There you go, don't go to it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
We're at work, Romance bump.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Night out right, they be like, what happened? Don't go
to it if you're a work though, because I did
visit it when we were at switch Yards and it's
full of very graphic naked photos. So I had to
like be like click out of that website because some
people are going to be like, what the fuck is
that girl doing? But anyway, according to their website. They
do have eight thousand activists providing contents to the website,

(01:03:24):
so a lot of variety. I suppose. It's still not
super clear how successful they are at distributing their money,
but they do list several projects they say they funded
over the years. They also claim that eighty percent of
the money they collect goes to environmental causes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Okay, the other twenty percent goes to lube.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Or cucumbers and cucumbers, I should say, so, I don't know.
I mean, what do you think about fuck for forest?
Do you feel like this is worth it? Do you
think they're doing it right? I mean, what do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Look, I have a complicated, not a complicated relationship. I
just I just find myself with complicated feelings about environmental
activism groups a lot of the times, because I strongly
feel that there should be more rage and noise and

(01:04:23):
attention brought to environmental issues for all the passion I
have for social issues that we have in this country
across the world, which are paramount, I mean, the utmost importance.
But they also don't mean, dick, if the planet kills
us all, you're right, which I very much, And I
don't know why this isn't the most obvious thing in

(01:04:44):
the world to everyone. The planet is a living body,
and much like our own bodies, when it feels sick,
when it feels when its systems are imbalanced, it will
heat up to try and kill the thing that is
hurting it. That's literally what our bodies do. That's what
a fever is, is trying to cook and kill the
things in there that can't survive at those heats. That's

(01:05:05):
what the Earth is doing to us as we speak,
because we're making it exactly instead of I do like
want to scream that from the rooftops, shake people until
they pay attention, et cetera, et cetera. But I also
think that you're not getting the right attention when you
go out and irritate people to try and get them,

(01:05:27):
you know, like throwing paint on you know, throwing shit
on famous paintings that was going on last year, that
was real big for a minute. There's value in protest,
and there's value in disruption. There's even some value in
you know, breaking windows and burning shit down. At a
certain point. It has worked in the past to disrupt

(01:05:48):
some pretty evil stuff. But also when you need everyone
on your side, just angering them, ruining their religious ceremonies
and stuff like that. I don't know. I don't see
the evidence that shows that this brings you progress right now.
So if they just want to fuck and sell porn

(01:06:08):
and donate that money to good causes, I wish those
organizations would accept that money.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
The money's money I have covered in the cumshots, right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
I think it is weird that they were like, I'm
not taking your money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
That's so ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
I understand if you're like, oh, this is a well
known pedophile. I'm not taking their money. I get that,
but like, this is all consensual, so it's like who
gives a shit?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Who gives a shit?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
It seems it does seem a little prudish of the
non profits to be like, well, if you make money
from sex, I can't somehow use that for leaves and
trees and shit, Like why not?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
There might they might, now I don't know. Again, speculation
station here. There might be an issue where they say, look, legally,
I have to put you on our website if you
donate this money. If I put fuck for Forest on
my website, Google will stop showing my results to you know,
Like it could be something like that where we don't
really understand why. There's a real challenge there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Yeah, and I don't know. These are also Norwegian uh
ron profits specifically, I don't know what their rules are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
So theirs would be doogle boat let me go on
my babe site.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Oh yeah, that's sorry. I'm sorry Norway, that's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Sorry to the entire Scandinavian region.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Yes, we are sorry to finish.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I haven't gotten to you yet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Oh god, why would you? Why would you start?

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I don't know. Also the same exact accent for those.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
It's different in Finland, man, But I was going to
say to your point, there is like a for example,
there's an organization called Femen I think, okay, it's a
women's organism, a women's rights organization in Ukraine and they
do topless protests for women's rights and a lot of
it is like a lot of people come to Ukraine

(01:07:57):
and get or a lot of sex trafficking comes out
of you apparently. And so they were like, Ukraine is
not a brothel. Is like a movie they made a
documentary they made about that, stuff like that, and they
said specific you know, people were like, these bitches are
always making so much trouble and whatever. And these ladies
are like, the thing is is that when we protest
not topless, nobody covers it. It's you know, punintended, but nobody.

(01:08:21):
There's no attention. When we're topless, there's attension, and we
bring awareness to because people notice and they want to
be mad. It's like it's almost like rage engagement stupid
food videos, but in this case it is actually for
social activist reason. They're like, when we don't take our
titties out, y'all don't care what we're saying, but we

(01:08:42):
do get what we need when we do, so that's
how we're going to do it. And they've been beaten
up and prisoned, they've gotten death threats for doing this,
so it's not it is it requires a lot of
bravery for them to do that. And I understand that
it seems like, I don't know, a little like a
ten grabby or something. But they do make a good

(01:09:03):
point that sometimes the nudity it's not about being I
don't want to be naked for y'all, it's not like that.
It's just that it will capture your attention because we're
not supposed to be doing that. And so it's also
a way to kind of say, this is my body
and I'm allowed to display it if I want it.
I'm sure, but I thought that was an interesting point
for them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
It is, and I think that's you know, there's a
I don't know, I see a big difference there, and
I have to say, maybe it's just because I intrinsically
am like, oh, I support that, and I don't support
destroying art in museums. You know, that might just be
my own it's easy for me to say those two
things without trying too hard, but my feelings are one

(01:09:45):
of those things. While inviting a lot of negative attention
has more I think of potential to attract positive attention.
Where there's a lot of people saying, oh, I hadn't
heard about you until the news put you on, but
hell yeah, I support you, and the thing you're doing
is putting yourself on the line, yeah, versus the other

(01:10:06):
one that's saying, I'm here to destroy something you love
and they're not. Usually this paintings are covered in glass anyway,
and that all wipes off and they're fine. But you know,
I'm here to literally just make everyone angry. There's a
much smaller success potential in that to me, again, I'm

(01:10:28):
not telling you the numbers. I don't know. Maybe they
maybe they have got a lot of donations after their actions,
but but you know, I mean, I'm just it doesn't
feel as inviting, yeah again to me as an individual,
so who knows the longer larger picture.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
But I feel that I think it's interesting to use
porn in this way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
They they're not wrong. Porn makes a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
It sure does.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
And they're like, I want to I'm willing to make it. Yeah, fine,
you watch me have zex and the outdoors my girlfriend. Yeah,
and I give the money to whatever to preserve the
rainforest in Brazil, and I feel good about myself and
this is my job. I guess it's just not bad
or whatever. So it's I don't know, kind of speaks
to some again colonial Virginia puritanism, right, which is weird

(01:11:15):
to find in Norway, but to kind of say, oh,
you're not allowed to you're not allowed to collect money
in that way, even for a good cause. Like it's
just it's just some something against porn specifically, right, or
like being willing to put out a sex tape or something.
We're not even talking about like porn stars who are
like fucking different people every day. This is a couple

(01:11:37):
doing a sex tape that they put out, you know
what I mean. Like, even if you're like, oh, well,
porn stars are promiscuous, we're talking about two people that
are in a relationship doing it. So it's kind of
I don't know. I don't really understand why it's a problem.
The live sex stuff is, but the porn part of itself.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
I don't think about. They're like the base of what
they're doing, Like if they're raising money again giving it
to good causes and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
You can donate anonymously most of the time. Sure, Yeah,
it just seems weird that they and I'm sure that
this happened too in like Oh for the right after,
you know, when they're in the headlines, is like having
done this live sex thing and how gross and what's
going on? These organizations were like, no, we can't be
associated with you. And maybe that's still the case in Norway.

(01:12:25):
I had never heard of fuck for Forest, have you? No, Yeah,
I'd never heard of it. Oh here, So I don't.
Maybe it's still a really big thing in Norway and
Berlin and stuff that like this organization is still out here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I like that they I like fuck for Forest. I
wonder if how much work it tak it took to
get to that, right, you know they're like, fuck to forest. No, no,
not fuck the forest.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
We don't. That's what we're doing now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Fuck in the forest, fuck for the forest, for for
for triple F.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Well it's funny you say fuck the forest, because that
was something that got when I was researching Fuck Ford Forrest. Ah,
there's a lot about eco sexuality, oh boy, kind of
tied up, which is really interesting. And it's kind of
the idea that instead of an Earth mother, you have
an Earth lover. Oh, and you treat the Earth as

(01:13:20):
a sexy partner Earth. And it's it's kind of fascinating.
It's kind of laughable. I guess you could laugh at it,
but there's there's something really interesting about it. And well,
I'm gonna work on it and tell you all about
it in our next episode. Because it also involves two
lesbian performance artists who are married and they did a
bunch of like, uh experimental weddings to where they married

(01:13:45):
the sun, the moon, the Appalachian Mountain, a bunch of
like abstract concepts. Y'all know from the theme song that
we love that trick, so I'm definitely gonna dive into
the two of them. It's Elizabeth Stevens an Annie Sprinkle.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
To learn about eco sexuality because that's that's a lot
about about using vegetables as sex toys or whatever. Like,
it's a lot of that. It's very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I'm saying, you talk about an earth lover instead of
an Earth mother, and I immediately think of Guya from
Captain Planet because she was she was a smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Show Guya from Captain Plant, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Yeah, voiced by I think uh, Margot Kidder and Whoopi Goldberg.
Oh I remember guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Oh hell.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
In fact, I love that. When you google her, the
first picture that comes up is her splayed out on
a bed in a purple dress with her arms up
or over her head.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
She does look like she's ready. She ready for a
Fuck for Forest video. Okay, amazing. So I just want
to thank her in Shaffley for this the suggestion, because
Fuck for Forrest is really really interesting. It's a lot
of naughty and naughty problems.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
All up in naughty K n O T T Y,
like Tree knots.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Oh, true, Well that's what I meant at first, naughty problems.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Gotcha, but also not think meant like tied up in knots. Yeah,
but I'm talking about tree knots. So there's three different Yeah,
but there's three different meanings. That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
I just meant they're spelled the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, but I'm talking about homonym's here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Sorry, apologies, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
We came out so strong saying the same thing at
the same time, and now we're saying the same thing.
We're not getting it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I don't know. No, I said naughty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
No, they should hear. They should know that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
But also, Kurinn, thank you for sharing it because I
learned all about femin the Ukrainian Organization of topless protests
also the annual Global Orgasm for Peace.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
What he told me about this sounds fake.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
It is not fake. It's just small. But apparently people,
Oh I get it. It is small.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
It feels like we've been faking the Orgasm for Peace
for a few decades now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Apparently it is supposed to your everyone in the world
is supposed to have an orgasm on the same day
thinking about peace, and it's the day of the winter.
The last day of the winter solstice. So if you
think about it, December twenty first or twenty second of
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Get busy Nonmber twenty August, late August. Now, yeah we could,
we could get there by then. Yeah, if we start now,
get where to orgasm? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
To orgasm?

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Okay, no, not to peace? That takes a lot longer.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Yeah, all right, we'll start now then. But yeah, so
it was just interesting to like see that there were
other other especially particularly environmental stuff, where they're like, we
want to make environmental active is some kind of sexy.
Now people think it's so boring, we're still like lame.
So we want to make it fun and sexy, which

(01:17:08):
is very interesting. And that's where yeah, we found about
started looking into eco sexuals and very very fascinating, quite
a spectrum of sexual experiences. Right, so we will get
to that next time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah. I hope y'all enjoyed these crazy, wild, very disparate stories.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
What was your favorite? What was my Did you have
a favorite?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
I don't know if if I could have a favorite,
They're all my favorite. This is wild, I guess the
most their husbands.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
I would say them fun. The most fun one is
probably the siege for fine Siege of Vine A good time,
A good time, but fat that's is pretty funny, very interesting. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Well, I hope y'all enjoyed these stories. We had a
great time telling them to you. Thanks again to everyone
who sends this kind of stuff in because all your
suggestions help. You know, they ruin our lives because these
lists just keep getting longer longer. But I love the list,
but my Pride Prize document, So send us some more.
We'd love to hear you. We'd love to hear from

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you and send us your thoughts on these.

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Yeah, your goodie bag.

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