Capone-N-Noreaga | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek - ROC Solid

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:11):
What up, y'all, this is your main man, Memphis Bleak
right here.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the
Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over at
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Speaker 2 (01:24):
You should know, good know, you should nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Know, and y'all you already know what it is yours
truly M Greasey Myths Bleink back with another exclusive of
Rock Solid and today I got a special special group here.
You know, Nori, my bro, Pone, my man, but them together. Nah,
I'm a fan. Let's welcome component Noriega to the motherfucking building.

(01:55):
What up, my gez yo man, listen before we jump
into this ship.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm a fan.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
So this is an honor to have y'all two together
saying here because.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
This nigga, you know what he needs.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
He be acting like he's.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Solo, so I know how it is. I've been trying
to tell him we a part group, so.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
He be trying to leave me.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
So I know how I feel when y'all was doing
this rap ship.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
But I'm gonna let you tell me, Ladys. You know
what I'm saying, because that's the part grout my man
be leaving me. You know what I'm saying. He taking
a play without you, then.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Be out he be running the marathons. You know what
I'm saying, y'all. But Yo, I want to go back
to the beginning.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
My g because it's Queensbridge, it's left rack. I want
to know how did that even? How did y'all even
link up to even form the group?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I mean you know
what what.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Did we have is people to come that please get
you get partsing on life.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
So one thing about my bro is that I hired
him by a couple.

Speaker 7 (02:59):
Of years is so that actually my favorite because when
I graduated from junior high school, he wound up going
to that junior high school and my next door neighbor
was the same age as him.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
It became his best friend my next But now I'm
already a high.

Speaker 8 (03:16):
School Yeah, like, yo, I want you to be my man,
but I wind up going to jail, and eventually he
wound up going to jail.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
That's crazy. Damn that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
I man sparfed. That's ill, man, that's that's yeah. I
mean that's ill people.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
A lot of people made it work for us.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Like, but Queen's Bridge is on one side of Queens,
left Rag is in the middle. I feel like left
rack separates the two sides of Queens because you got
south side of Queens and then it's the Queensbridge side
and left fright, it's that in the middle.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
So what was that like for?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You can't you can't you can't just say that.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yeah did in the middle because it's the be ueen
eaven my crib and you jump right.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
There just you just skipped up a whole wasn't nable?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Like what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Everybody from pleased with me, Like you just let him
say that, Like it's just like.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
You just bring the Queen's rooms.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Listen, listen, I know how in it that works.

Speaker 9 (04:17):
I was Queens niggas will be like, yeah, wait a minute,
you just let him skip over with elm Hurst and
let him skip.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Up with Coronill let him skip over, you know. Uh
Jamaica Jackson heights flashing like some men.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Said Jamaica is part of South Side.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
To me, I always can I always considered Jamaica, I
mean Jamaica. Queen's part of the South Side Queens to me,
I'm gonna keep it on.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
I've never been to elm Hurst.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Say yeah, I've never been to strove through.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I want to pull up.

Speaker 10 (04:51):
I'm talking about we all hadn't got it's messed up.
This was messed up.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
To get to the water, you probably drove through every fucking.

Speaker 9 (04:56):
Neighborhood, but it's by the Kennedy You've definitely he drove
through every neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Y'all just looked at it. One side is just one side.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
That's how Brooklyn. You know, Brooklyn is like Harlem. I
ain't gonna lie all that, bro said Hallom, I don't
separated ship.

Speaker 9 (05:09):
All you go to a different hoood that were like,
welcome to Williamsburg, like it will actually announced.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
It, like it ain't gonna welcome the bed, start welcome
the crowd. It will be so welcome, the flat Bush welcome,
and so welcome to Coney Allen.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
We got welcome to Queens.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's nothing, That's what I'm saying. But that like all right,
so look.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
You know what from the Green Ride. Oh this green
Rock as far as Boulevard.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes, that's Jamaica, Queen.

Speaker 9 (05:34):
We said the Green rockets the Red Way rad brings
a head. It's the marks gonna be red, black and green.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, it's the rock. I had a chick over there, Joe.
I used to have to go over that.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Howe I knew where I was at because that should
be like, oh, ship people here.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
That was me and spine. Ain't me by the rock?

Speaker 9 (06:05):
You know?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Thats like so?

Speaker 4 (06:07):
But like I was saying, my question growing up in
Left Frag, how was that my g Because Queensbridge produced
a ton of legends coming from Left Frag.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
You was the first, not believe the only who else?
Come on, I'm trying rappers? Man, can you play bo
can Nelly from Left Rack? Man, I ain't know that.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I love this.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
I ain't known was I know I can Nelly from
Booby Track?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I know I.

Speaker 9 (06:44):
Can even come from.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Booby Track left right?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know? Yeah, man, I solid like okay, alright, cool, No,
but it's a lot of niggas who feel like that.
Yeah I don't ship me.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Too, Yeah me too. You know I played in the Kenny.

Speaker 9 (07:03):
Sol sister is supposed to be from left rack. Then listen,
he's never claimed us. The word is, who's your wrappers?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
From left? Brown? From left? I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (07:16):
I think he lived in left right and I'm not
sure if he was from there.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
No, no, I know. Yeah, Jay had a SoftWhere harvest grown. Yeah,
Kenny Anderson, wasn't.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I played in the Kenny Anderson tournament? Yes, I did
count down broby me my cousin.

Speaker 11 (07:38):
You know my comins your mouth skimmer, who grandpa, I'm
I'm just tudding you.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
My nigga, man, my cousin.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Now you we used to wall out there, don't mimmy.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I'm telling you, I wasn't ship. I ain't gonna be
like you. I went there, k they had to league
and got busy. I got cut. Now since what come on,
you gotta be in there. They know about the county
and there's a tournament. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Come on?

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, the first hood that taught me about Amsterdam.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, up the countries.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, all the buildings.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, it's crazy.

Speaker 9 (08:22):
Yeah, you know it's crazy that you said that when
I'm like, we we had we used to have even
a tour called the World Domination of World Tour.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
We didn't know. It was like, you know, our first album,
the Warricort, we was naming all these places that we've
never been to.

Speaker 9 (08:39):
Likencoln, come on, niggas, you know you never what are
you talking about? Like and all this, yeah, like and
like we would get calls from these places, like I
remember we was, we was, we were entertaining and going
to desert store.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
But this this wasn't what.

Speaker 9 (08:55):
Uh, this wasn't what the US because I later on
went with the with the US.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
And performed and you know, and did something for him.
I take you later.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
But I remember them sending a letter the penalty back,
but I'm not sure if you were locked up, And
it was like, yo, if they go, I believe he
was home.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
If they go and.

Speaker 9 (09:19):
They get kidnapped, they on they own this. Yeah No,
this was I forget what it was.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
And like.

Speaker 9 (09:30):
Like we negotiated a deal and whenever they must have
had our phone stap or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
It's like, yo, straight up. It was like Yo, if.

Speaker 9 (09:38):
Y'all go over there, something happened, don't holler at us
like that.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 9 (09:47):
Mixing like a labor Nazis because because Wang Wuchang had
came out.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Look, you gotta realize it was two different things.

Speaker 9 (09:53):
Wuchang had came out, you know, they were they were
talking comfortable five percent ship and you know what I mean.
So we were like, all right, cool, we fop and
said too, but let's just think of something else.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
We're like, all right, cool, let's do Middle East. So
we were just trying to be like different.

Speaker 9 (10:12):
So then we started learning about it and we were like, oh,
this is foul, like not not not the the coach
I'm talking about, like the water man.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
You know, like right now, look at what's going on
right now? It really our album makes more sense now, Bro.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I learned about the Middle East from the War Report,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I didn't all about Iraq.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
All these places until listening to the War Report. Man
shout out, my man, shoot black, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Locked up.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I don't know if you're gonna ever hear this, but
he put me on to component or Riega.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
He had the War Report. We in the park doing
what we.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Do, and that nigga played that album and that ship
never stopped playing to this day.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Like That was my next question, Like, I.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Just wanted to know when y'all was recording The War Report,
did you thinking, y'all y'all was making such a historical classic,
a cult phenomenon that it turned.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Out the being Did you even think that was possible?

Speaker 6 (11:09):
I mean, for I'm gonna speak, I'm standing up solely
to knee. I know because I was around.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Music a little before that, So I seen what due
diligence was. I seen how nw it's just waking. I say,
how mall beautifuls being? And I've seen and when we've
got ideas?

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Who was a boot that like you know what?

Speaker 6 (11:27):
I'm so likelam got like you.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Know, like the pig buck.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
One thing I learned is that why was we Why
would we record an album?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
He was big an issue because we made l.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
A l A That gave us the kick that put
us above a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
You think, so I think too, that was the kid
that was the kid that was the kick that was.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
You know, it gave us that head.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
So that was it, like we was making history.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
We made him Mark.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
I felt like we made him because I think two
podcasts about the niggas fuck y'all to that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I wanted to say my name, like tell about the niggas.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
You never want to be the other niggas. At that point,
we had to stay.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
But he had a little bit.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
That's crazy to hear you say that l A l
A was the record you felt that took y'all into me.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
T O and wow. Yeah, after that we.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Got t O Y record because of it, Like Big
fell in love with us because he just didn't want
to smoke behind.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Y'all was the only niggas who jumped, who stood up
for New York.

Speaker 3 (12:43):

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Y'all held it down because Snoop did come through and
crush your building or two as sat on the Statue
of Liberty.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
He violated.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, he violated was the city baby building? Right?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:54):
He had he had dies in corrupt forty dudes. It
was on some ship. Y'all niggas held it down. Yeah,
that's family.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
D d G. Slow Brothers, that's family.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
I love them niggas, man, that's so crazy. How you know,
it's just crazy how.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
We was young back then. They didn't know, man, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Them being from where they.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
From, we're from where out exactly and the look they
turned out to be our brothers.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Insane man, that's dope, man, that's.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Got an album. That's life boy. You know that's that's
what it was.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
We felt. That's what I felt like we made the mark.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
You know when people start like, who do guys going
back at LA because it was nobody.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
That nobody like you kind of briefly answered this, but
as a group, are's many groups out of New York
as legendary. You got dads effects, you know what I mean.
You got Swept and West, and you got mab Deep
of course, like and then this component no riego like
a p of d E pm D.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I can't forget a pm D. Come on man.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
They set it off like you know what I mean,
they set it off like help the scale. There was dope,
like it was a lot of duns to be nice. Yeah,
but I'm talking about two can't you can't low? It
was dope too. It was the one Yeah, I can't low.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
It was dope.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, it was too though.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Nah Luccini fo style Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
The fool Snickers only two shot food.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, the fool Snickers yeah only didn't the wool came
out and changed the game with thirty seven members.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, it was the wool.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
At first it was two members, Yeah, brand newbi it
was like four because it was actually you got tribe
called quests.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Is definitely more than two, just what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
And then they were placed members for like a few
albums in.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Two man groups.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Think I'm just damy groups. But then you win. You
just went crazy with all the groups. At first, I
was just named the two men group.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
That wasn't two man group? What is that name?

Speaker 4 (15:06):
It was a two man group? Fucking who did you say?
That wasn't a two man group? Health the Skelter was
two men. The Skelter was too man. Sean Price Recipe,
Sean Price the Skelter, Sean Price.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
And Rocks.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Y'all listen, No, that was that was they? There was
fab five.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, and listen, I was Sean Price is my family.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
That was my cousin.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
That nigga told me to my face yours only, I'm
the nicest Sean you ever got meet.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Like, I don't care what home you tell you. I'm
better than him.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm the nicest Sean.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Like, So what I was saying is like as a duo,
Like what do you think out of these groups, we
just named a ton of them, which'all think y'all bought
the game different than everybody else.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
I think we just bought the fact that everybody that
we named is from like the same hood.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
It was from the same area.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
It was from when we're from two different places in
the same borough, and brought each distinctness to the game.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
So it's like, you know, we put Army for T's
in this proper place.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
You sure you put it? You put Yeah, I definitely did.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
You know what I'm saying. We found We found that niche.

Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yeah, we put only for Ts as I might have
been there the show Black Ram.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, that's what we brought it.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Again. Some people brought this to together. Some people broke
that too the game. But we bought army fatigue to
the game. I see young Dolph rest of the piece. He
was like, yo, this is the reason why I moved.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, no, he had all of these rest in piece,
young girl, of all of these army fatigue.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
He told me that. Drake told me something like that, look.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
At your legends, Dolph Drake.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
You know what I mean a life those interviews I
had on the Dream Chance because I looked at him
in his face and I was like, yo, you know,
most most rappers die in their own city.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
And he looked at me back in my face and
was like, yo, not me, you know what I mean?
Like he was like not me, and I.

Speaker 9 (17:17):
Was just like I wish I would elaborated on him,
but you know, you know, it was like I was
sipping and he was, you know, simping what he said,
and I.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Felt like, you know, like sometimes the.

Speaker 9 (17:29):
OG's looked down on him, Like I didn't want to
feel like that, that old dude is looking.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Down and he started thinking I'm judging him. So I
didn't know how to do that.

Speaker 9 (17:37):
But boy, after that run, I found out that he
passed away.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I really wish. I was like, I really wish.

Speaker 9 (17:43):
I was willing to be embarrassed, like just in case
he would be like yo, g backup or something like that.
So I wanted him to know, like, yo, bro, I know,
you know, changed him. You know, like people that this
happened to, and they were good people. So was I
like every you know, person that's all foul people don't die.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's like, no it's a lot of good.

Speaker 9 (18:03):
People that, you know, yeah for not for not just
paying attention to the environment. Like I always say, read
the room.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta know.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
No, but definitely man like after the success of War Report,
how the things changed, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
From there.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I gotta say this.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
It wasn't no success at War Report at first he
was in jail.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
That's a fact your poll man.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Heard out for me.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
I might have had a bigger.

Speaker 12 (18:43):
Listen.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
Listen to me when that ship dropped. I was I
was baking like a biscuit.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Like. No one said that was a classic. They what
does a classic mean?

Speaker 9 (18:57):
Back then everybody had a classic?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, like classic, Yeah was.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So bros like, like niggas is.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
Looking at it like, oh a classics Like oh, like
back then Baltias is the classic. No, the classic because
of the class whip as fuck.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
But but y'all album is before whole y'all was out.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't wait.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Thirty seventh.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
More Report came out ninety seven. Yeah, I saw it
was the same year. I thought it was a couple
of months before and then we dropt. It just probably
was the wave y'all was on from the L A
L A O and why first refer the.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Show was well, oh, I mean Jruary the damage up
the stage.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I ain't gonna lie. I got that.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
She forgot that one.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I got a shout out Connelly many I know just
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
You just know he was from left right. I know
he's from Booty Tracks.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, I'm from Booty Track. I had a whole career.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Is you know he was?

Speaker 9 (19:59):
He was one of the first people were in the
school records.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, yeah, like nearly the first nigga who's showing me
women loved this ship. Oh yeah, yo, my nigga, we
did the tunnel and put it in your mouth?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Came on, mind you, I'm fifteen years old.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
This is the era of kissing in the hallway for
your breath state.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
This is that era when.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
You ain't getting in the crab together and every woman
in the club singing this put it in your mouth,
break you, bro.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
My whole life changed that night.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
So I walked before for an hour and a half,
basically four records, and nobody really realized that shit like
he could just he could sit there, he can have
as have a banana show. And I know that sounds
crazy guy, women's and women's like, you're doing it like

(20:59):
a banana. Then they'll have dances come out and then
then he'd be like then they and he'll he'll set
me wine.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And he's sitting there so into the show, you're.

Speaker 9 (21:09):
Not realizing like he's he's like, this is a real showman,
Like he's a real tainment, Like he's entertain he knows
how to do that.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Like like if I was to put together a show.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I gotta get because we get to put that, I gotta.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Get a knocked up here together.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
He could do it two records because I used to
be with us in the crib and stay Strip State Street.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Oh see, we had a whole We was the underground mall.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
We was underground like a motherfucker Trump full of records.

Speaker 9 (21:38):
You know, I don't know where you're dropping this, you
know who? Raz Cast said, let me too. Well, David
Bad got on our show and said that rash Cast
is living with them. So we asked raz Cast he
because I just living with hold of them, And he's like.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
What, rash Cast was down with it?

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that rat like ras Cast like, yeah,
no he not cat, No he knocked.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Cat last Cast, It's no ways.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Ras Cast was all the way in the crew. I
used to hang with Rads every day. That nigga took
me to some chick crib in the lower Bro, this's
been had like fifteen cats.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
I was like, yo, Bro, I gotta get out of here.
I can't do it. Bro, we got got a kid
out here or.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Rads my dog, that's my g man out So surprised man.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
So after war.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Report that unfortunately poll you go where you back? Locked
up because.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
He come the end, he got locked up.

Speaker 9 (22:44):
Like Brian to Us actually even had then the album.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah yeah, so he was locked up already.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
So wait, how long have you did? Because so the
n O y E album came out.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
That's two different that's two d things yeah, two.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
From Ben's.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, just a long time.

Speaker 13 (23:09):
I stand on that.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
If I didn't get my time back, people stand on
the flat album.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
But because they took on my good time.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Dela Bee was was best friends with the ex Commission
of New York State. So I got my good time
taking because the deputy of the jail.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Daughter was righting me, so pimping in jail.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Del Bee's got my good time. Little Bee he highlighted
the ex depity.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
They didn't.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
They didn't even do it, no paperworking out to say
any sixty days. What anna say?

Speaker 9 (23:43):
Come on?

Speaker 6 (23:44):
They thought I wasn't come on for another year?

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Another year?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
How that felt?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
You know what I mean? Being in the group and
then your partner locked up?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
You know you got the budget lame looking at you?
Come on telling me I'm skipping Queen's I'm scared put album.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
The word report All right, ward Point drops, we get
that four four four and a half pikes of wour pikes.
You know what that ship mean?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I just told the game means.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
The only gave me three and a half.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
You never get in four.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yo. If I told him we have something, yo, like
me that.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Four minute something world out, I'm dropped and I got
three and a half.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
I ain't come outside for like a month and a half.
Worded a three and a half, I can't getting four.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
So it was like it wasthing for me.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
But like I said, like the Wardport dropped, people will
drop by and I went back and selling cracks.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So I was just like, all right, I ain't know
nothing else. That was the blocks, you know what I'm saying.
I was on the block people dropping by.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
They're playing the war Report, and I'm like, all right, cool,
and that was you know, I gotta give him his
props again. He looked at me and he was like, Yo,
you don't see this ship. And I was thinking it
was just p from the hood. He's like, no, he's
like a fucking.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Monument right now. These people are driving by just to
see you. And I felt like, then at.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
Your Liberty, oh ship, like you know, they're not getting out,
They're just like drive by, like oh, you know what
I mean. Like I didn't know how to book a show.
I didn't know how to do nothing. And then somebody
my family was like, man, somebody's doing shows.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
That's y'all know you know it was that. Yeah, it
was no.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
I g nobody could be like yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Think about you and slave Man Love.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah we could have gotten that bag.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I could have been.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
No, who could have.

Speaker 12 (25:46):
Been with anybody, like like like before you had a
major TV year, like if you Bloom Bloom, if you
had a bus like you could you could.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I'm sure there was there was mint bleaks. There was
mint bleaks.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Out there right now.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
You can't personate the person, well, you're impersonated person.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
They had a drinking personation.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
You can't impersonate that performance. You can't do that you
personated person Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
Yeah, well and then then that's when I was like,
all right, cool, let me think of the business.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
And that's when I didn't know what to do. Like
I didn't know what to do. So that's when you
know what I mean. I got the call. Was it?

Speaker 9 (26:41):
I believe it his nos and he was like, Yo,
I'll fly dout of Miami on such and such, go
hit you the info and whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
They it was black.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Call be waiting for.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Like I am.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I don't know what the next thing to do.

Speaker 9 (27:08):
Then like that call, like whatever Instagram was back then,
Like he's like I saw the.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Like I just telld you that ship was.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
It was black and Fall, the big black fall.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
Yeah, the ship that YouTube like this and the paces
was slowed.

Speaker 13 (27:24):
Around Paul Roy when the polaroid shaped to shake.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, it was like I was supposed to be there,
and I'm like all right cool. And then and then.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
Then I never got the call and I knew they
was out there and I just didn't say nothing.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
And then uh, Jhan call me. It's like, yo, can
you get to LA on Wednesday?

Speaker 9 (27:57):
And I'm like, yeah, I'm of course we can slime hurrying.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I know how to do it.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
I'm like, I'm like, yo, listen, listen, this is Western
Union days.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
So I got my little workers. I'm like, yo, watching
the union, but right.

Speaker 9 (28:15):
Now I got five hundred, and these are days you're
gonna walk.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
At the airport and buy a flight. I had to
have to fly.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I had to have that far I'm talking about. This
is this is me going to l A. Like, there's
your budget. Yeah, this is my budget right now.

Speaker 9 (28:30):
I didn't get there on Wednesday or Tuesday, whatever it was,
because you know, however, this we.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Get them chief flights.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
If you go on Monday, the Friday is cheaper for
some reason because they gonna get you.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
But staying longer anyway, beause they will get you the hotel.
The hotels in cahoots, right. I know that then, So
I'm like this, fuck it. So home. They go upstairs
and they go on to the studio. Got no call.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
I'm just sitting there by class like yo, I'm little
cute week things. I'm like, yo, they going to the studio.
My studio is not so you know, back Wednesday or whatever.
But check then like, yo, y'all don't know. I don't
want no hinting.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
It was like I know these things. They can't say no,
they keep staring. They both was like, all right, cool,
I'm coping them half ache.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, I know that's what you like. We said, I
got five mag I don't know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (29:32):
He so some brash at that time, may even like
fourteen dollars a shot.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
You almost to have a bottle, you a bottle eating
ja as I mean. So I'm sitting there with me.

Speaker 9 (29:43):
In La, I'm sitting there, I'm like, yo, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And I remember Jungle was like I'm bumping through.

Speaker 14 (29:53):
The privilege al coul that fourteen with your third and
I'm captaining all together.

Speaker 9 (30:04):
And then it was just the right move and they
was like, yo, you want to come up the studio
right now. I was like, yo, you know I supposed
to go Wednesday. He's like that, but just come with us,
just come hang with us, Like, who's the.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Word I needed? You ever see the mix?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
So I was like cool, And I make a long
story short.

Speaker 9 (30:24):
You know Nature, I don't know if you ever worked
with nature, but Nature one of the greatest artists of
all time, but Nature takes his time at the pen.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So I don't know if Dray was frustrated or.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
He was just like, you know, he turned and he
looked at me and he was like, aren't you nicka.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Wagua for.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
You know that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, I'm just.

Speaker 9 (31:01):
And he said, you got something And that's why I
started that ship off.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
No, we know this never caught.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Like crack No know that something.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Make your favorite on gang signs sign Why do you
think I said that? Because dreams right there fucking doing
signs we But look, I'm just like, yo, my dude.

Speaker 9 (31:30):
I just That's why I always love Nature because he
could have hated like this is my session.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Like listen once listen, I'm a dolo. Did I mentioned
I'm do by myself.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
There's no budget, of course not there's no.

Speaker 9 (31:43):
Mudget, but nothing else but going there and smash. And
I kid you not, That's why anybody out there like
that one opportunity and I did that, and I knew
that record was hell. I did the whole record, like
the whole record, and they just never got to the

(32:04):
bottom of this.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I tol you know, I need to be on that
rother Nature.

Speaker 9 (32:16):
Yeah, but then that record drop and then we did
we did blood money. It wasn't blood money at the time,
no part too to mezs in nature not not the
original blood money.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
So we did that and.

Speaker 9 (32:29):
He let me come home with those records and but
then pun came up. I did that and that's the
that was the that's now that you go to n
R E. But I'll tell the truth of the one
that was ill was I'm leaving because I was like
a war report was right here, but it needed something

(32:51):
to remind them, like what that meant to people? And
when I'm leaving came then the war report says is
going boom and it's like okay, all right, cool.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
And then they're like, y'all can you hold it down
by yourself?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
That's right about to ask you, man, how you felt?
You know what I mean, because I.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Know you couldn't see the success back then.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
It wasn't no social media. It was no unless you
had TVs. It wasn't watching videos. But you would get
the calls call home and hear about all this, like
how was that to you? Being locked up?

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Like damn one thing I can say.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
They tried to include it and everything that's artwork on
a on a black and white book.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
That man the composition sent.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
It on the on the trunk of the book, and
we want you to see his allward. I was a
part of everything. So that's what the label did.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Make me feel like.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
I still got my books now with his artwork, my
want watch it.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I had to prove that legend is that all art work.

Speaker 10 (33:51):
I had the truth.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah, so the only way why I was able to
pull me they had to stick it on the front
of a composition.

Speaker 7 (33:57):
And that's how I proved artwork. So they made they
gave me every opportunity to feel involved. That's what ship,

Speaker 15 (34:04):
And I was able to call a label free will
only collected like times a day.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Of course they had that bad.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
They accepted the accepted.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
They don't care. They accept them. That's right, you know.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
For me, it was like okay, but they't give me
the money.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
You feel me. They did all that to me. They
ain't putting.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
They ain't put your advantage on the ball.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
Because there was no money at the money ain't coming
to it.

Speaker 15 (34:28):
Like when I'm getting up to the money ain't come
until I'm leaving.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
That's what I'm trying to say like, yeah, I know
that it's coming on rage.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
I went back to the block.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I went back, Yeah, I know changed everything.

Speaker 7 (34:47):
The n O y E album, right, it changed my life,
you know what, because I got.

Speaker 15 (34:53):
Locked up on the world Wort album and when the
Worried Port album came out, they still didn't believe it
was me because they didn't see that about video.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
That's right, didn't see me.

Speaker 9 (35:05):
They still like that you that's the way oh ye
can because.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
This is all I got.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
That's right, white crack.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
The seals telling me that ain't you still chicking me
in my ass?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Right?

Speaker 5 (35:22):
An m t V came into jail seeing and at
that point it was only me and Tupac who had
to MTV interviews, the only other person who.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
Had an MTV interview at the time, and we looked
the same. We both had the same blassar body that
jail greens with.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Look, there's only two people.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
That's dope my jeans. That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Changed my life.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
And then fucking n O r E.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Right before we get into that holt.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Remember, I'm gonna remember, we stayed. We stayed like I
got everything executive.

Speaker 9 (35:58):
In the world to trying to like to come fuck
with with me at that time, and we stayed with
the worry Port originally stayed to drop that the same
independent label Penalty records.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
So j doing deal that penalty, I believe he did.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
I know, I think in my lifetime dropped that.

Speaker 11 (36:25):
Yeah, Si, Yeah, that's why we did that first showing Jah.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, we did our.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
First showing Yeah in my lifetime saying it was dropped
on that.

Speaker 7 (36:36):
Sun and that was you know, they used to showcase
shows them.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
There were showcases.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
There was actually show shout out Maria Davis man Rian
Davis shoost to let me yo listen today. Back then
I used to be like yo, she looked out, but
today she was fat, she was fair.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
She made Jane pay a band.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
To give me an clucause. Remember I was under the edge.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
So every time I had to go perform, Jay used
to have to pay a thousand dollars to get me
in and then give me a thousand to throw. And
mind you, I'm fucked up. So he giving me the
thousand the throw. I used to be looking at it
like what he mean throw this one?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Show?

Speaker 4 (37:21):
My men caught it because he gave me the row.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Not in a rubber bed.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
So I looked at him like, oh my man, in
the crowd.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
He caught it.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
We went. I told Jay that he's gonna do that.
We bust that up though with the tall beads. He
told me throw it.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
We threw it, baby, yo. But then my g like,
out of.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
All that, y'all name in legendary ship that took place?
Like you're getting calls from naves. You're flying to La
with Nature with fucking Doctor Dre jumping on the what
album was that?

Speaker 3 (37:59):
The firm in the classic in itself?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Will Fox? You grew up Fox? He's coming outside.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Who blew up? Chim Chill.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
We ain't gonna do that. We ain't gonna do that.
This that this ship you shl I need I needed one.
We're gonna talk that ship.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Chill.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
You're supposed to keep that a seat?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, no posting man, I'm chill. Listen.

Speaker 9 (38:27):
This is this is all like you when I'm here
a secret.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'm like, I shut the funk.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
You know you don't listen.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
You don't know. You got me a beef with sauce. No, No,
that's not a secret. Hold on, we'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Grocery.

Speaker 9 (38:45):
Tell me yo, yo, listen. Oh yeah, I know I'm
saying I talking about the secret. So I'm jogging the
other day it's a random.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Comes up to me. It was like he's like, hey, Nor.
I was like, hey, what's up? Man? He goes, hey,
did you hear? And I'm like, what Foxy is coming out? Man?

Speaker 9 (39:02):
And I'm like and I'm looking like what the I'm like, yo,
is this a spot? I was like, I didn't hear
that at all. And I'm stinking back it. I'm like,
who the hell blew that up? This is out there?
They would out it's out there, man, damn.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
I hope.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I hope the plants stayed the same, because you.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Know, the big homie.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
You don't want to get that nignna pull that red
card the detour.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Everybody will. For the record, everybody want to see Foxy Brown.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Everybody want to That's a fact that it's.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Gonna be Foxy and squashing with Kim like, I don't know,
I don't like somebody.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
I didn't hear that.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I don't think that's how I heard it.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I didn't hear that.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, And then Kim put out cat, Yeah she heard
a big cat too, rest in peace, big cat. But
she put a big cat, big cat.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Listen, let's get back.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Know what I was saying, legend every ship because here
come into y e R.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
But you fucking found for rat, I ain't fine enough.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
He foul no, I mean like he was. He was lost.
I'm talking to drop.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
He something jelly. He's out done, you out.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Dumb, you know what to take you too? And like
he I think he told me no he hates it,
but he's like he so yo.

Speaker 9 (40:23):
I was really that cocky back then, and he's cocky but.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
He got no no, no, no no. But he was young.
So when I first met.

Speaker 9 (40:34):
Him, he was like, man, anybody who listens to me
is gonna get their number one. And I was just
looking at him, like and I got the number one
recordar high ninety seven. Now for me, I'm also cocky,
right because you got the number one record ninety.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Seven ship, that's right front back then, that's.

Speaker 9 (40:54):
Right back then got the number. But remember there's no
problem on five. So basically I should have said that
I had the number one record. He said, I said,
said I had a number one record in New York, right, So.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
He's like, man, whoever listens to me, is gonna go
number one? And and then I was like, all right.

Speaker 9 (41:10):
Cool, And I remember he's like he played one beat
man that was dope, playing the other beat was dope.
He was like this third beat, don't listen to it
till you get to Miami. And I remember my homie
like me, listened.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
To this.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Playing this ship right now some.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Reason its walking days. I was like nah, And I
went to the.

Speaker 9 (41:34):
Front and I kept listening to the to the.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
First beat of the second beat, and I went to
the Kent.

Speaker 9 (41:38):
Hotel and I remember, I remember the Kent.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
He's still there. There's niggas had the team besides of
a black man. So listen, I tell you.

Speaker 9 (41:50):
So I'm sitting there and the girls are talking to me.
I'm sitting there trying to my room, not ready. So
I'm sitting there writing the mind the other two beats
that he talked and the girl was talking to me
like the first time, like she said to me.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I was like, oh you think, oh, you think I'm
one of those paying niggas. Oh. I was like oh no, no, no, no,
no no. And I went upstairs and I took it,
took off on walkman. The place had a CD player,
you know, like like the clock radios.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
So I took the CD player out of my walkman,
and I was like finally, like and that's just said,
didn't then then then? And I just said, man, well normal,
And I.

Speaker 9 (42:26):
Was like, guys, I'm inside for the whole you guys
going outstairs and you're like fucking man, you know I'm paid.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I'm like, yo, right, but too man, you're gone that fun.
I heard that ship. I still there.

Speaker 9 (42:40):
I wrote that ship that whole night. And I'll tell
you what. I laid that whole ship. Superdup's one track.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
And it's one track.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I laid that whole ship. You know, what what what where?
That's how I counted balls? What what what?

Speaker 3 (42:55):
What?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
What? What?

Speaker 3 (42:56):
What? What?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
What?

Speaker 3 (42:57):
What?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
What?

Speaker 13 (42:58):
What?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
What? What?

Speaker 3 (42:58):
What?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
To? What? What? What? What? What? What? Crazy?

Speaker 9 (43:02):
And forell like gus he is, I laid the whole
ship like that. So when I laid it and I
put super the whats So I supposed went to get
to pluck. You you remember pluck you get remember?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, that was a chick back there. That was chick
fil a. The word it out.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 9 (43:24):
So I got that and I came back and was like, yo,
I was because I was like, Yo, we needed this
hook could be done.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
And I had did that with a lot of other
producers before.

Speaker 9 (43:33):
Like that, and he was like the only one that
he erased BOT one and then let the what One
thing and I was like, Yo, they're gonna laugh at me.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
He was like, and you're gonna laugh to the bank.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
And I was like, right, yeah, he's right.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
So they ain't think that ship was gonna be no.

Speaker 9 (43:53):
Once he mixed it like this, this is the rough Dravet.
I'm saying, I'm doing something that I did on all
of us OLT albums because you know, like you know,
like you know, I had him to help me.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
The pone had to lay eight. I knew I had
to lay his eight. I cool.

Speaker 9 (44:09):
I just compared to my you know what I'm saying,
like I had engineers, like like I was really on
my own and to tell the truth, you know, I'll
give trash dis respect like when I actually be like, oh,
he's like you know, because I don't want you know,
me and him is cool, But he almost laughed at me.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
He was like how yo like, and I was like yeah,
he kind of like laughed at me, likes me in
tragic is cool.

Speaker 9 (44:36):
But this is just my perspective and I'm not trying
to disrespect your perspect me.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
But this is how like that. That's how that phone
call was.

Speaker 9 (44:42):
I remember I was at a junction boulevard and I
was choosing the pay phone.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Niggan't even have a cell phone, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I was like that.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
He was like, you want to leave me?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
And I was just like that that like Q would
me too. That was like, oh, like niggas don't believe thing.
It's only thing and it's like I remember he was like, yo,
well what is what? Sorry he didn't call you palm.
He was like, where's I am stand? And I was like, man,
I had already speaking to you. I just didn't tell
you he was gonna break break out. But I was
speaking to you and speaking all the time. But I

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didn't say that.

Speaker 9 (45:14):
And then when I was like, yo, well this up
to him and then he listened a lot of people
will hawk the hell the person.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
He's like, all right, cool, I just wish to tell
you the truth. And this is something I probably never said.
I wish he would have helped me because I needed
that I needed.

Speaker 9 (45:30):
I wish he would have helped it and just been
like you do you though, because I needed that guidance, you.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Know what I'm saying. So when I did have that guydance,
that's where Chris Lighty came in Boom and.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Chris, you gotta legend that legendary story my gen.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Like Chris Lighty, man is just when he came on
and can't get me, I can That's what's up, man,
Chris Lighty legendary story in itself. Man, the Lightly Brothers
made legendary moves in this game. But like, yo, damn man,
rest in piece heard got him because I remember super
Doug Took was bombing in New York, Flex gone.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Crazy like the comedians.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
No, they know this ship was Nick going off and
I remember see he ain't here to say this fright
for himself, but that nigga was like, man, what super
dug about cocker span?

Speaker 3 (46:22):
You? He talked about you gotta cocka span? You what
super dug about that? Come on, man, we better get
to work.

Speaker 9 (46:31):
Yo.

Speaker 13 (46:34):
Job connected with with me, and in the very beginning
he was crashing all the No way listen, I remember
the the brand new far the Benz.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
When the when the Benz body like change right, this
nigga sees me, keep saying, a nigga he sees me.
He walks out of the dam. He goes way in
front of me.

Speaker 9 (46:57):
Yo, I thought you told me the Benz ain't coming
out another six months.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
He's like, He's like, I'm looking at someone right now,
like he's hanging on me in my face, Like I'm looking.

Speaker 9 (47:08):
He's like, Yo, it's an artist that hasn't How does
how's an artist happen?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I'm looking like, you know what? Ahead man o my
dogs up. The sh.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Go back at her was like you know what, brother in.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Fucking I was like, yo, were ahead?

Speaker 13 (47:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, do you smell that love this right? I was
like this be fa like I mean, yo wagon wild
you think like I mean? And then it was crazy
that we got cool. But at first, like, yeah, I
did not like her. I don't think he likes me.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
It was a respecting too.

Speaker 14 (47:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
No, definitely is competition. New York was on that. Paul,
you continue to drop music independently as well.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Man, What was that like for you? Working? You know?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
For me, that was just work. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
It was to just keep working. Cor first so Iva
to the two five. I just had my record from
one of that album go viral.

Speaker 3 (48:09):

Speaker 7 (48:10):
You know she was big.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
You know that's right.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
So you continue to work.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
You can see the boys out for years.

Speaker 3 (48:16):

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Me doing solo rights, I never wanted to be a
so so for me when it was time for your
so the voice, he just came home.

Speaker 6 (48:27):
So I had had a situation on fifth.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
No, you know what I'm saying that she was trying
to give me a situation with and big big at situations.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Pay legendary ship man running around, running around, lighty.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Our boys was active nis. Yeah, that boys was active.

Speaker 6 (48:50):
They don't give much stretch.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
She certain stay for legend two kidding me, man, legend.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
They talk about the PAYTI, but that's the wall put
on Nish.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
It was time, yeah, legend Tom.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
I'm a young boy. Yeah, I was no face newman.
I was young. I mean I ain't you go look
at the food Jesus yea.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
But numerous countless people.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yeah, sh legend.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Kidding me man, Like y'all your careers include separation. You
know what I mean solo success reunions. What kept the
connection between y'all so strong Because a lot of groups
break up, you know what I mean, y'all.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Broke up, but never really broke up good. I mean
every every brothers have fights, all brothers.

Speaker 6 (49:42):

Speaker 7 (49:43):
Brother, you're from the same brother, he from the same paper,
you're from the different body.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Know how to go, That's right.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Every every every family have fus.

Speaker 7 (49:50):
But with us, what makes it stop. It's that his
kids is my blood. But he has something to stick to.
Some people don't have enough for the stick to. They
just love touch and they let it go. I can't
do that, That's right, because if I need a blood transfusion,
his kids can literally give me blood.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
That's my blood family.

Speaker 6 (50:09):
So that makes us a little bit, a lot bit.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
His mother blood.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Man, you better talk to that mother, that's right.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
Talk money for my aunt, like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
So it just made us have to to stick along,
and we genuinely love each other no matter how much
we fight.

Speaker 6 (50:26):
We met each other when we were his kids, and
we knew each other for.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
All our kids, all our ups and.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
Downs, all our deaths, and our families all out.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
We knew each other for that's real shit. That's real shit. Man.
What we sold? Fuck what we did?

Speaker 6 (50:44):
You know, I seen all those kids born, he said,
my kids born.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
That's right, man, one that's dope.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Because a lot of groups separate, man labels groups all that, man,
But a lot of New York groups, I respect y'all
old stuff together, man, Like for the most part, you
know what I mean, Like Smith and Wesson, Mob Deep,
Rest of Peace, Prodigy, they were still driving projects together.
You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I mean,
how to scout the Rest of Peace shows?

Speaker 9 (51:09):
Right, crazy because a lot of people think like like
a two man group is like easy.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, it's just as hard as Wu Tang. Yeah, because
when Niggas was azy, but he had his own manage.

Speaker 9 (51:23):
I got our own he got his own management team,
you know what I mean, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like it's took too like Chris Lighty, but then you know,
he can't go do what he wants. I can go
do what I want, and then there's people speaking for us,
so it'll be the same ship. Like you know, we
went on tour with Ray Kwan and I was sitting
there just watching. I was like, oh, Ship Like I

(51:44):
was like, I was like, oh shit, I thought we
could go through Ship Like yeah, yeah, this.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Business, you know, you're in the business growing.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
Yeah, grow understand that. So I'm gonna keep it real.
A lot of people don't even go with one offense.
He was fortunate rigs that wos.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
So you don't all the fucking right. Yeah, now you're good.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Certain artists right now that still ain't get no money.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Still yeah, they didn't even Yeah that's a fact.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Like that's what That's what I was gonna ask you too,
man Like Lighting being such a legendary manager, you know,
putting a lot of people in position.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
What's some of the gems you would say you would
you would share with someone that you like, you something
you learned from.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Chris and just say no to a lot.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
And you know, we yelled, you yelled on the hood
like uh huh.

Speaker 9 (52:39):
When I got he was like, y, I'm gonna get
you a certain amount, right, And you know Chris Lighty,
you know, go on tour type of dude.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
They've gonna tour with me. And then they gave me
Mike Lighting.

Speaker 9 (52:52):
And then you know, we we like faus like we
trained that, I mean tracked by train, like you showed
on the ropes for one of the illest things.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Getting back to your question, it's like.

Speaker 9 (53:04):
You know, I learned all money ain't good money through him,
you know what I'm saying, Like you'll get off with
Dale And I'm like, yo, I'm in I'm in Delaware already.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I'm not go over to.

Speaker 9 (53:17):
Maryland and get this other bag. And like I don't
know where that bag is coming from, you know what
I mean? Like they want to sit in the first
half in cash it's right and learns with me, You're
not in.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
The streets no more.

Speaker 9 (53:30):
And I'm like, man, I had to understand that, you
know what I'm saying, like all money ain't good money?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like Howard do gon
thiss your man? And then you take up you know
what I'm saying, take money?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Like, oh, how are you gonna you know what I mean?
You know what I'm saying, So like like you know
you're young, that's hard to like you.

Speaker 9 (53:53):
You're essentially saying turn down money. But then you're like, yo,
you know what, I didn't turned down money. I just
picked up my integrity, you.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Know what I'm saying. So like now I know that ship.
You know back then it was like this, I'm thinking
it's butter are you like? And that's the crazy ship was.
He was somehow like if he if he turned down
something like me and Poe or something like that, like uh,
he would uh placed.

Speaker 9 (54:24):
It was something like I remember like he turned down
something but then he replaced us with Johnny Blaze or
so like like he turned down this is cloth and
was like, yo, they just they just whatever whatever.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Was echo No, it wasn't echoed. No, it was it
was like some some some some other ship. And he
was like, all right, cool, but I got this. So
it wasn't like well sometimes it was sometimes it.

Speaker 9 (54:45):
Was like you dad, it's not getting no jelly beans
like the first first first dude with jelly beans like cana.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Oh. He's like you don't see it. He's like no.

Speaker 16 (54:59):
He was like, you know, like so he made sure
you got your money. Man, Like when when I came home,
he said, don't worry about nothing. What you wanted, I said,
I want a Cherry Red band. I'm cherry red lex.
I said, I want ten thousand cash.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
To listen to all that ship and then it was
Chris Lighty and then who executed it.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
I couldn't even grat the band.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I'm the the lections. I have to give it back
and settle. You just take the money they gave it
to you, to take the money.

Speaker 7 (55:26):
But he also made everything they gave me when I
came home and write off like Christmas.

Speaker 6 (55:32):
So I respected him because he didn't have to have
faith in me. I wasn't around him. Well, he didn't
have nothing to go off of.

Speaker 9 (55:39):
But him violated was like the illness man. Like God
blessed me because you know rock Nation. But let me
just tell you something. The first rock Nation was violated. Violet,
God bless listen, God bless listen. There's no shines you
know me, you know, but what rock Nation is doing,
like how they they taking care of the artists, like

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God blessed me. Like when you see Mona Scott be
so successful and you see like Yandy and like you
know Claudine Joseph home that's awful.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Bother like that's crazy, like amazing. Rock felt like like
you know what I'm saying, so.

Speaker 9 (56:16):
Yeah, and it comes from you, it comes from something else.
And now when you see the BP Nation, I'm like,
they like took it, like.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
You know, God bless you know, Chris is not being here.

Speaker 9 (56:28):
There was a wide open spot because and then like
you know, just think about it, man, a person, people
are that magnetude. Like I'm Joe told me a story
one time where it's like he called or he was
closing the deal and Dad's got on the phone.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
I was like, boom, boom boom.

Speaker 9 (56:47):
You know, now I'm closing it for this just from
her getting on the phone. And it was like, like
that's like powerful, you know what I'm saying, That's like
a powerful thing. Like they're scared of Dupid. I mean,
they're scared of them. They're scared to do bad business
with them because of them.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
And that's dope. That's a different type of that's a
different type of power.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
I'm trying to get some of that power, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
That's right, Joe.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Then you like the music is one thing you learned
to pivot, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Because a lot of us from New York, we got older,
you know what I'm saying, Then we couldn't do the
same things we was doing when we were younger.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
You pivot into the podcast space drink first. Yeah, but
we you want to get into reggae doon. Yeah, it
was it was a rock you just skip it. I
ain't know how much sound we got. I know this
is CNN, It's not Norri. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Good, Yeah, the podcast is gonna skip to the box.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
No no, no, no, no no no, let's go to
reggae throne.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Now, let's get the Ma May and Donald Mar all
of them reggae thro let's go.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
So listen, how did that come? Because the way wait,
let me ask the question in my way fun the journalist.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah, yeah, you was black, you know, all of a sudden,
I'm south side of the moone.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Wow, the very.

Speaker 9 (58:08):
First time you ever heard me close? Luise gotcha? Like,
who the fuck do you think that that is? Like,
I'm straight up, total, straight up for the whole time.
I told him I was from proud to be voted. Like,
they just didn't listen. You know what I'm saying. They
ain't listen.

Speaker 10 (58:22):
So when it came my time, I went to Puerto Rico,
I had it was it.

Speaker 9 (58:25):
Was down Ye, they got the wrong show that Yankee
wasn't at this time. So I remember Stay got the
wrong show and he turned it down. I went out
there and I was like, I performed. I heard that
ship and I was just like, oh ship and I
went and I tell you this, like the ponent Oriega

(58:46):
doing like not Norway myself, but like performance.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
The Poonan o'reega records, like people get staged like like
so I'm used to that.

Speaker 9 (58:57):
At one point, I was like, Yo, my nigga is
I don't think I'm killed him, Like I don't think.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I don't think he's good. Like nobody like in the
bathroom like no, like maybe we didn't.

Speaker 9 (59:09):
See it, like like I used to feel like that,
like someone had to get stabbed, like like if bang
bang come on and nobody don't get hit, like.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I mean, nobody don't get.

Speaker 9 (59:22):
I swear to God, I swear to God cannot deny this.
My very first time Pharrell gave me a compliment.

Speaker 10 (59:30):
He was like, Yo, throwing chairs the super dog like
that was his, that that was his.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
That was his level level of.

Speaker 9 (59:40):
Success too, if they wilding' and so this is this
is that ship at that time, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (59:45):
So for me to go from that, and I was like, yo,
I looked.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
And my cousins in Puerto Rican, I was like, nobody's
gonna fight, and they were like what looking at me?

Speaker 9 (59:55):
Like man if I picked up mand, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Like like and so.

Speaker 9 (01:00:05):
And then I came to and I tried to like
tell people about it. No one cared to look at
look at the halftime show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
In the halftime show, yeah, man like that. He literally
took my idea of having all the flags.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
You know what I'm saying, man, bunny took your style.

Speaker 9 (01:00:22):
No, just saying that nigga flags, yeah, you know older
flags that said I had older flags.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
He did that same thing, and I'm saying that's dope.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Yeah he wrapped, he held it down. But you New
York queens. I respect all the main gate thront, but
you flipped it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
They say.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
You know, usually niggas gig you know a bangle with
cream cheese, like the cream cheese with bango water.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
How you got the dream cheese with bangle waned?

Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
It was like the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Gun Yo.

Speaker 9 (01:01:11):
We ressed that regular up like right list. We had
a reggae call. It was called Reggae Throw.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Reggae. That was the hook.

Speaker 9 (01:01:24):
No no, no, no, no, no, this is a whole
nother record. Hold on the record so the people come
to coct the record. I got like an hour and
I'm listening to that's that's that was the hook, don't
my regga.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I was like, nah, that's not it. I went and
in the Sky was already on. No. I believe this
guy was already in the way, and I just said,
looked at them and said, listen to me. I want
to take big Puns chorus and expanded. Remember big Pony
said body crop, that's it. That's limited.

Speaker 10 (01:01:58):
And by the way, he's not he Depending on who
you asked, he might or might not be talking.

Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
About black girls because they called Latina's money.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
As you know what I'm saying, So like so like
I'm I'm in the culture. That's right, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:02:13):
So I had to know and I say, you know what,
you know what, let me take my brothers, you know,
from from Heaven's idea and expanded more because this is
what he really tried to mean, you know what I mean,
This is what he really would have meant, because you know,
although he's proud to be body, if people have got
to travel that whole world, like how he's supposed to
like you know what I'm saying that they couldn't. There

(01:02:33):
wasn't no private man. I said that he had a
double joint.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
I respect Punt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
I love him.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
I seen the lie. That was my first time ever
seeing that he was going to can Kune. He was
on the planet all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
The scenes all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Yeah, all three scenes and they strapped from one side
to the other and I walked by that was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Just like, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I think they had especially buckle for it, Like yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
And it's so sad that he was like, yo, I'm
trying to get his shape losing wings.

Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
Yeah, like one he went to listen, he went to
the platform of Lizabeth. I tell this sloy like he
gave me too much because people love it. So back
then you can from you can hear the radio station.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I believe he's in.

Speaker 9 (01:03:20):
South Carolina or North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Right, And so I was on one radio station and
he heard me. So he's like, yo, you know I'm here.

Speaker 9 (01:03:31):
You know what I'm saying. And he called it the
fat farm. He called it something else, and I was like,
all right, cool. You know, Pun is a funny dude.
So I came to pick him up. It was just fantastic.
You remember the fantastics. So he's like, yo, He's like,
gave me the CA'MC.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
So I'm like, what, Like, yo, believe me KFC. He's like,
I got this. Oh yeah, do this? Take the skin
off and this Kevin's grilled chicken.

Speaker 17 (01:04:03):
Sham yom. He don't got no, he don't got no,
you know what I mean? They didn't, So so I
take care of it. Why I'm a bucking the chicken.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
I don't even pay attention if he's ripping the skin
off or not, because at this point he just got
me beat, right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
So he's like, yo, listen, we're gonna stop in the gas.
I'm gonna get some bed. So I'm like, what do
you mean? While you be like what do you mean?
He's like, no, I got this. It's gonna be light. YO.

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
Realized I want to call myself naive, but to tell
you truth, and I wanted to look stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
That was stupid. So his was crazy, Like it's crazy,
it was.

Speaker 9 (01:04:53):
Crazy, right, should well drive him off? Like he must
have walked through there because he hasn't drinking so long.
He muster out there.

Speaker 13 (01:05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
The guy He's like, yo, don't you ever come in again? Right?

Speaker 9 (01:05:08):
So now this is this is this is man's being
June from the flat from No because I'm the guy
I was.

Speaker 10 (01:05:13):
I had just signed.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I had to sign.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
I had to sign, so you know that was responsible.

Speaker 9 (01:05:18):
I didn't know this some twenty fucking like I didn't
even know this, and he got over me, like so
his was crazy. Years This is years and years later.
Guy comes up to me. He's like he's just looking
at me, and I'm like, I'm used to be a
stair at sometimes, so I'm just like all right, cool
and mean, alright. So I'm He's like, I know you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
I was like, yeah, of course a lot of people did.
He was like, you the guy who came and picked
up Christopher. This is what I knew.

Speaker 9 (01:05:48):
I was like, he didn't call pun punt, so this
was like this, he clearly only knew.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Me from picking up Punk And they were laughing because
they didn't really know Pun was or maybe they did.
You know, it wasn't Instagram back then.

Speaker 10 (01:06:03):
But then and I saw the guy who's who saw me,
and I've.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Actually knowed that that's crazy, yo, But like I was saying, too, man,
here come drink champs. Yeah okay, one of the lean
podcast voices and hip hop. You know what I mean,
y'all said the Trendenire anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
What was that like?

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
What made you even think, yo, I can do this?

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
It's me right? Yeah, well we we had to the
radio show. Me and Yfen.

Speaker 9 (01:06:34):
I moved out here. Yeh, Fen is a wild boy.
He used to be a wild boy. He's he's very
he's a very good dude. Now the Fen used to
be bringing me ecstasy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
All type of ship you chill chill or chill type
of cham not my man, mister conservative.

Speaker 9 (01:06:54):
Now, I don't think he ever brung it himself, but
he had and you know what I mean, Yeah, I'm
just playing but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
But he was the DJ, you know. And when I
moved down here, that was like my my crew.

Speaker 9 (01:07:11):
So I had moved close closer uh studio to the studio,
and then I started using the studio and then he
would use he would play poker and I would stay
up all night, you know what I'm saying like, and
we were like, whoever up at night, you're a drink chat.
So we started running with that and then we did
a radio show with this guy named Leo G. And

(01:07:34):
that's what remember Leo G. Yeah, and that's when Serious
Side of Ight and it was excellent radio, Serious Side
of And that's where they merged. And I believe we
had to like could have went there. We had to
be in New York once a week and it was
just like I was so beat. I was just like, yo, man,
I can't go once a week like right now, I

(01:07:55):
can't travel like right now. It's crazy that I said
that back then. Right now, when I try, I need
two days off.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Man. When I come home, you I'll be telling you
I know this person. You're like, I'll be like, yo,
I don't get it no more.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
This this motherfucker come back from Italy and be outside
the next day like yo, yo, what you don't need,
you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Need, get half a day?

Speaker 10 (01:08:15):
Old pun up when I come back, bro, because that
time difference mess me up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
But yeah, but what the dream chap so so I
was like nah. And then this due from it's.

Speaker 9 (01:08:36):
Crazy because they don't they don't exist no more. It's
due from CBS radio. He had had our old Dad
he's an old dad or something. He played it for us.
He played, it was like yo, woild'll be able to
do this again. So if you look at that show,
it's the same exact show. Like that's what I'm trying
to tell you, Like if you tried something that you fail,

(01:08:58):
you might take that same probabuct package. It different like
it I'm not saying we failed, it's just that it
didn't work because they didn't get to the potential. It
was because of the merger, but we didn't change nothing.
Like literally we're saying the same shit. Like when you
hear me say Military Christy Wild podcast, I'm still stuck

(01:09:18):
in that old show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I'm supposed to say.

Speaker 9 (01:09:21):
This is Dream Champs Happy Out, you know what I'm saying,
Like it could be stuck in the old show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
So we we wounded it. We had CBS and we
hit like.

Speaker 9 (01:09:31):
We we we we hit, we wanted to hit and
wed it pretty much ever since ten years. We're gonna
do another ten not years, excuse me, but another ten.
We got something really playing very nice. We're gonna do
it celebrate a ten year anniversary as well, but we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Do it all way like like you know, like you know,
I'm you know, I might like some luxury ship.

Speaker 9 (01:09:58):
Yeah, if it might be some normal shit for us
together as like the media and ground you know what
I'm saying. So that's what that's what we wanted to
like cater to like you know what I'm saying, the
people that can relate to us, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Like parently, like you stay, you know what I mean, grounded,
roots to home. Queensbridge did a lot for your neighborhood,
your community and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I had a question I.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
Always wanted to ask you because growing up the videos
you did get in the magazines.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
I did see your way.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
You was always a fly nigger like you are today.
One man got the drippy ass. You know what I'm saying, Like,
did you ever think about going into fashion? Just what
I'm talking about, trunk about it? You know what I'm saying,
What a segue?

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
You know what you know about brand is a constant collection.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
My friend, you know I've been, I've been a fashion
You know my mom she's fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
You know. The dopest thing was about my bro he
got to meet.

Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
My mother while she was alive, remember, and she she's
always kidd about him dressing and my mother dressed me
from a baby's man, petty overs with tube sides.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Real hood ship worded out with no pennies in them.

Speaker 7 (01:11:16):
Was always like I was always a kid about Like
if you go to my projects, that's what they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Say flat and that's that's what I was making for.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
Yeah, my dad, he had been Dad and Dare Jackets
and all that damn in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
But that's how I knew that dad all my life
because that dad was Nigga Jackets from pot was outside.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
He was there Jackets, Yeah, he was outside my number.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
He talked about my dad. My dad probably want famous than.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Me and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
My dad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Damn, that's crazy whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:11:48):
Because my dad then followed every generation.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I've been at the hood for forty years.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Yeah, you feel me.

Speaker 6 (01:11:54):
My dad been in the hood for forty years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Dad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
That's that's legendary, man, that's legendary.

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
Heavy artists, every everybody is feenished about that.

Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
So you know, and my dad that's what he's known for,
being a fly as nigga drop cause he.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Had to be in as a bend as Oh yeah,
pops outside for sure for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Like that's that come so fashion my cast, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Matacosta collection that that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Make sure they go I need some drip because that's
who right there. Yeah, I need some drip. That's sure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
I definitely rid get that's what that's what we do.
Like watching your bro go from music to this journalism. Man, Now, like,
how has that been from you? And did you ever
feel like it it was something you can get into too?

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
And or you just was like now you so from the.

Speaker 7 (01:12:48):
Beginning, I remember that time when he was just a
thought somebody heavy and and and we had a party
at the at the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Wall was at the walls of the wall. Yeah. Party.

Speaker 6 (01:13:00):
He was like, yeah, I'm I ain't getting to do
this podcast.

Speaker 7 (01:13:03):
And then and then he did an episode and then
I think the next episode was probably.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Be a gunplay you out gunplay dogs say somewhere out there.

Speaker 7 (01:13:13):
But you know, at the end of the day, I
knew that that that's what something he was passionate about.

Speaker 6 (01:13:22):
I've seen a lot of things.

Speaker 16 (01:13:23):
You dope with, you know, was ago, you throw it,
you get into it, and it's like going to the
next you know, But this I felt like, you know, like.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
He's seeing something that the world didn't see.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
Needed that podcasters is out at that time, it wasn't
it was it was only the audio.

Speaker 18 (01:13:45):
So you got to realize it was on the audio.
So the first Dream episodes was on the audio. So
when they turned to video, like what was that? But
like covid, we we filmed him. Since no, I'm not
saying he didn't film it. I'm saying I had no
filming platform podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
No, like like in the beginning.

Speaker 9 (01:14:04):
That's why I told you a lot of people know that,
Like they frightened now because they caught up, like what
a lot of people they were just giving the audio
and they were and if the video did come, they
was giving.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
It away for free. So I don't want to tell
I don't want to yet. I don't want to fit nobody.
Like so if that wasn't you up not talking about you?

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
You know this if every sensitive.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
But you know, like like that's definitely a place r.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Yeah, I'm surprised he ain't dragged you in. He dragged
me in.

Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
You know what, he dragged me in your guests.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't think I had it bro him
and Sunny jumped me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
You know what I'm saying, they made me do this
ship I.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Beginning, they mean Sunny get sent his drags. Yeah, they
think I'm being nice journalist. They don't know Sunny be
throbbing me behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
You got to show up, so you one thing you
have to say.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
No, that's my guy. Man, love Sunny Man, that's my dude.
He probably do say my feel you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
All the way.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
He might be the leader.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Word, he might be the leaner world up that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Bottles thousand bottle service.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
He got going. Oh yeah, he was. He was besting
with Oh.

Speaker 9 (01:15:25):
He was like, it's Sunny because you know, we had
a joke on the show, I'm sunning you not It's approved.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
So we had the whole players like, like play it
out with us. He was like, this Sunny's improved. He
goes no hexact. He's good with the d said, he
wants away. You can tell the whole basic He told him,
you will tell the whole basis Like he.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
I'm like, you know, it's crazy, man, Like looking back
on everything, y'all accomplished collectively individually, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Legendary status man.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
In my eyes, and I'm pretty sure a million people,
probably ten million people feel just like I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
How do you feel? Y'all? Music represent the era of
New York today. Gotta yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
I mean, uh, you know, I look at it like
we have.

Speaker 19 (01:16:29):
We had every opportunity to make us repe better, repical
for New York today to meeting. We had the superme deal,
you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Saying, fact your deal or things different, But everything was
so New York.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
It was part of everything.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
They needed to be so new York they have, they
involved us and everything.

Speaker 20 (01:16:52):
So our music is part of that timeless New York
culture where you get them m maybe ten albums that bubble.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
I feel that that's right, man.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Like when people talk about Queen's hip hop so many now,
we ain't gonna forget all our artists and queens might
not know the neighborhoods they from, but we can't forget
cause y'all got a lot of funking are l als,
run DMN scenes, screwboys, screwooyah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Like that's come on that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
We gonna be here for two hours naming all of them,
like seriously, but it's a lot of legends, you know
what I mean. When people talk about Queen's hip hop
history or we believe seeing them fit in there, I.

Speaker 9 (01:17:44):
Believe we survived in that in that era where first off,
you have to be nice to have to get a
record deal. You have to be like you have to
you have to be consistent. They can have a record deal.
You have to like, you know, swallowing your prize to
a certain certain degree. And then when you got there,
like you have to like get there, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
So like I'm like when like like I I live
where you know, people came up to me.

Speaker 9 (01:18:12):
It was like, Yo, the war report got me through
my bed and that shit is like good and bad
at the same time because it's like, man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
I wish you wasn't doing that, Like you know what
I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:18:22):
Like what I mean by that was like being incarcerated,
and I get it, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like when this man, that shit, you know, that's what
it'll mattered did.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
For me, you know what I'm saying, Like so like
like and that shit's happening to this day. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:18:35):
UPS Worker would come out you know, yeah, they still around,

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Not just Amazon, you know, but the.

Speaker 9 (01:18:42):
Ups Worker would come out Like Yo, man, when I
was druk, Yo man, you raised me and shit, like
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Shit, I was in the United Lounge the other day.
I'm sitting there. I can't pay for my fucking I can't.

Speaker 9 (01:18:55):
I can't tip, I can't do nothing. And the guys like, yo, man,
I'm sorry, put my car down for you. What He's like, yeah,
Like he's like, yo, man, the War Report raised me.
And I'm like, all right, cool, you know I'm not
gonna argument. Let's let's let's keep the party going. That's

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
So it's like, you know, like we touched people. You
know what I'm saying. He touched people with that ship,
like you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:19:19):
Like like I remember at times I couldn't listen to
the War Report because it was just it was just
so much pain. Like I don't believe we exaggerated on
most like on most of those bars, I don't believe
we even knew how to We just knew how to
write what we was going through that war.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
We were going through war with the War Report.

Speaker 9 (01:19:36):
And it's crazy because he was in his crib where
he had green leather couches. Man, I thought he was
so rich, you know what I'm saying, Polish drop times man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yeah, washing and drying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Yeah, that was a big dad, big damn yo.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
His carib isad big yil. Did you watch the CNN
And that's just at the World Court And I don't
remember if he was already caught then then or we
like I was like the World Report was like the
water pot, it was like the water four.

Speaker 10 (01:20:09):
And then that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Being like aim towards that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
You know what I'm saying, legendary actual, that's legendary, man.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
I got a legendary you know what I mean? You
got a legendary freestyle on Tim West World.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
That lundy you know what I mean? He was holding
me down, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
I mean I should have known. I could look at
that video and should have known right there because you
was amping the bars like I was murdering there. Those
was major water gun bars.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
And you was amping it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
So I should have known you would have amped me
to do something later. Yes, let's go nah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Yeah, So what's next for my guys? Man, I don't
want to say it. I would rather y'all sing in the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Studio right now. I'm her first time in the studio,
law time, right, you know what? I'm saying, we need
that war.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
It's the war report too, that's what we're.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Going with it. He ain't even know he ain't even
know what, but yeah, that that was a Dodtor Drave.
I ain't telling nobody. Shut the fuck up, you know
what I'm saying, Shut.

Speaker 9 (01:21:18):
The lose to go about it like it's a doctor
Dre beat sock set the fuck up.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
You know you gotta tell me about to be killed.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Were killed it now, you know? Now?

Speaker 9 (01:21:29):
You know you saying yeah, I was like, yeah, cause
if you're doing that, that's how you leave the witness.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
You know what I'm saying, like, all right, cool?

Speaker 9 (01:21:37):
No, no, we killed that shit on our own, now,
you know follows This is a doctor Drab's approve it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Though, No I ain't. Y'all two joints to me and sounds.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Size of this and one is doctor Dre Like god
damn them ship sound like, well, we needed what I
missed from my guys. Man, y'all thigga's still sound like
y'all ain't no whole away, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Low up, that's right, man, and I respect that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
I love to see y'all together.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
Healthy, getting money taking care of the family, traveling in
the world.

Speaker 9 (01:22:12):
I'll tell you one thing was I remember we was
on talk one time and it was crazy to see
and then like they they scared of that crowd. So
we get six o'clock shows. And then when you look
at eight o'clock at the party, and then when I
started doing REGGAEO, I have a ten o'clock at the part.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Yeah, I was like, yo, we could, we could like
really do three different things.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
I'm just lying you good, my g I just wanted
to say, man, I appreciate y'all for pulling up.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Man, it's an honor. I'm a fan and now I'm family.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Now we're family. It's rock solid drink champs for life.
You know what it is? Man? Seeing then we're here.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
I can't wait to hear more records because the two
records I heard fucking phenomenon.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
That's a fact.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
He said, you guys something for me right now, we're
gonna see him.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
He cap it and it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Hit different. That's all right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
We in there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Let's get it, man. I appreciate my jeans. Many let's
go come know it my brother.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Yeah, for more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit iHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows
at And you can follow me on any social media
platform under the name Memphis Bleak.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
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