April 21, 2026 • 53 mins
Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek.
This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Smoke DZA — Harlem’s own Smoke DZA joins us for a laid-back but insightful conversation that blends hip-hop history, hustle, and real-life perspective. Known for his smooth delivery and deep roots in New York’s underground scene, DZA pulls up to talk about the journey that built his career—from early mixtapes and the rise of the Smokers Club movement to becoming one of the most respected independent voices in hip hop.
Throughout the episode, Smoke DZA reflects on how Harlem culture shaped his sound and mentality, while also discussing the importance of authenticity in a constantly changing music industry. Bleek and DZA trade stories about their experiences navigating the rap game, building relationships, and staying consistent over the years. The conversation also touches on collaborations, the evolution of New York hip hop, and how artists can maintain longevity by staying true to their craft.
As always on ROC Solid, the vibe is unfiltered and genuine. With plenty of laughs, gems about independence, and behind-the-scenes insight into the culture, this episode gives listeners a closer look at Smoke DZA’s mindset and the grind that continues to fuel his legacy in hip hop.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Drink Champs, fourth Annual Black Effect, Black Black, Black, Black Effect,
Dot Cost Slash Podcast Festivals. What up, y'all? This is
your main man, Memphis Bleak right here. Welcome to Rock Solid,
a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network in
partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs. You should
(00:41):
nobody knows. You should nobody knows. Yeah, yeah, y'all, you
already know what it is. Yours truly, m Greasy myth
Blizzle back in the building with another Rock Solid exclusive.
Got my brother here, my smoke partner. We should be
(01:03):
Smoke Champs, man, Young Relly ching binging up. It might
be smoke after this one, but you know, I got
my dog, Smoked Dizzer in the building with me. What's
up my guy?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Come on man, good pla ain't fighting the go one.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's right man, Happy New Year, my brother, Happy New Year.
Singing y'all all out there at that wrestle MANI your
wrestling fast man. You know what I'm saying. What made
y'all get it? How did that even connect?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Like, you know, first and foremost shout out to my
brother west side Gun.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh wait o, Lord, they bad the gun. They said,
you can't ban the snowman. How they banded the gun?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know, you know, I'm gonna save that part of
the story for him to tell it. But you know,
we've been making some waves and shit got a little complicated.
I mean, so they did do my brother dirty on
that on that note, you know what I mean. But
(02:04):
we got into it, like you know, we since we
was kids. We love wrestling and being grown and being
able to actually purchase tickets. And some of these guys
are actual friends, you know, we support so we always
was front row at WrestleMania's or whatever. The premium main
event was a w ship t NA, but we got
(02:27):
the opportunity to do our own thing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So you know we got fourth rope.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's what's up man. That's dope, man. Congratulations on that
bro Tian hip hop and the wrestling was I ain't
never thought, but like you said, as a kid, we
always was in there with come on man, they had
what was my man animal steallna, my nigga got big
jaw stuff, all traded giant. You know what I'm saying.
(02:53):
That's when I was in there with Coco b Wad.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's the ever that introduced me to wrestling.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
My nigga, We all was a little niggas practicing that
shit on our little cousins like brothers like this, jumping
off the couch, elbowed in a neck nigga. Noah, that's
true man, that's what's up man. So you're doing the
music thing, man, what was to come up the moment
that you was like, let me get in, let me
(03:19):
take this music shit serious man.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, you know I came up in a battle circuit,
in a battle circuit, but it was way before it
got commercial, wait, before the cameras really started to play
a part to it. But you know that gave me confidence.
But I when I really took it serious, I want
to say, it's uh hm hmm. I think once I
started writing for other people and getting some of those
(03:47):
ass cap checks.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Ship, that a change that to make everything here.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That made my parents take me serious, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So that was why they're always the first haters. Yo.
That's literally your first group of haters, your moms or
your pops, like your brother all that they the first crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But you know it was I was trying a lot
of shit, you know what I mean. And you know
my parents is is West Indians. So they wanted me
to get a job. Go get a job.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Like it looked like I was just jerking wreck until
they've seen something, they seen my name on it.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It was like okay, oh yeah keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah you should pay all they want to make sure
that you got paid.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, like you figured it out after that. You know,
they've been on they've been on board ship. They're my
biggest fans.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh yeah, they become That's how all the haters off.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Listen. My theory. My theory is the hater is your
biggest fan because they have to know everything about you
to hate you.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So they are your biggest fans in hindsight, you know
what I'm saying. So we gotta love it. And moms
and pops. You know, my mom's no, she was telling
me put them wraps down, now do that homework. Now
she looking like pick the fucking right what you're doing.
Did you talk about you in the pool?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah? Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
My mom's ain't she like you know, she's she's just happy.
I'm doing my own thing. My pops passed, but before
before he did, he was definitely my biggest fan. He'll
be mad at me, but he'll run into somebody and
I'll be the first person he Yo, you know smoke, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
He that's my son? That's right. He was proud.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He was super proud.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's all you want to do. That's all you want
to do is make your parents proud. Man. That's what sure.
So I might have this miscon screw out. Did you
did dipset put you in the industry? You got on
through them or a different Now?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I sol shites bub shout out to my.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Brother Purple City, right right. You know I always had
the haze on them always. He was the one that
introduced me to real weed. You know.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, for sure that way back in here, Da s
is for sure pivotal and and getting me a part
of the system, you know what I mean, and teaching
me how ship works. And I met Shies through Johnny Ships.
That's you know, that's the first person actually gave me
a shot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And around I want to.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Say, oh four oh five, like the tail end of
what everybody knew Purple City to be with ag and
unlike you know, they was drifting off and doing their
own thing.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The second nicest nigga with glasses up straight up, rest
of peace, my man, Batman was the first nigga with
glasses man that he was nice. And then when I
sing un constant where he came out, I'm like, damn,
that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
He's a rapping ass nigga.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Word up, he's a rapper man.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
He's a rappers rapper for sure. For sure, I came
in the tail end of that. And you know, Shites
is still pivotal in my career today, you know what
I mean, Like, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He's doing this thing in the wee game man, right, sure,
that's what man. He was out here winning a round
with them. That's when it was piff.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
He actually made the word piff in the in the
Urban Dictionary is made by Shit's buff.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So no fucking way, man, that's what's up man. So
how did that link bridge the gap for you to
link with currency? Man? A man burned up man.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And I want to say, like nine, when we started,
like doing south By Southwest.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Damn, I was the first ones doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It was out there.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's around when it first started old Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, and we had the Smokers Club that was our
brand that we was pushing at the time, and we
did our first show in south By Southwest and spit
It was on that show. Whiz was on that show,
Jay Rock and Kendrick Lamar was on that show. Big
Crit was on that show, and you know that started
our brotherhood. But the first time I actually met Spitner
(08:04):
was when he was on the Freshman cover and I
think that was a little before we did south By
Southwest and it was a session with Mickey Fax. And
this is when Spitter was smoking blunts. I know he
don't want to hear that, but smoking blunts, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, he was the first to the
conversion of the Paper Paper.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Gang but.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
To answer the question, you know, going to south By Southwest,
that's what started the button brotherhood of all of us.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And that's how I really like started kicking it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And then you know, moving to Dame, you know what
I mean, when Dame had d D one seventy two,
that's where we.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Really Oh yeah, I remember he was fucking with Dame. Yeah. Man,
Dame and Spinner had drama too, yo, Chill, I forgot
about that. Yo.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I'm pretty sure they're good now, of course, you know,
but yeah, that's where we really was, like you know,
cutting records and just run around the city and just
you know, kmarate.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
We really got built, dud. That was the foundation, man.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's what's something. Man, currency a good dude. Man, I
was supposed to go out there to New Orleans and
funk with him. I'm gonna make it out there real soon. Man,
he got a Taple movie, trust me. I know by
g fucking you from a legendary you know, every borough
in New York got they Spinners got their legendary history.
Top dogs like being from Harlem though, Like that's that's
(09:36):
a lot of pressure because y'all put a lot of
people came out of Harlem Man. You know what I'm saying.
Might it's too many to name, but you know, the
elite main niggas mas like puffing from Harlem. But I
don't know how he adapted Harlem. You know what I'm saying,
I don't know how to happen the locks too. Lots
from Yonkers if they adapt their Halem too. Y'all cheating
(09:58):
my niggas is stealing artist. So we're gonna talk about
that on another episode. How harllm be just stealing niggas nigga? Yeah,
all them to you because it's love. It is, you
know it is. I'm not hating, but I'm just saying.
We never took a queen's nigga, just like he's Brooklyn.
Queens took Brooklyn niggas they took, Yeah, niggas definitely think
(10:21):
a z fro queens.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I want to say, yeah, y'all, lord, y'all lost some
y'all lost a few of the queens.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You know what I'm saying. Niggas took niggas jack, But.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's love, you know, you know, it's it's a five
Borough thing when we're out of New York. But you know,
queens get the money. You know Harlem. You know what
we do in Brooklyn. You know how y'all niggas give
it up and then shout out to the brook.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No more we making it Brooklyn, keep on making it.
Were making it now. We got new mentality, y'all. I mean,
it's twenty twenty six. We gotta get this money, baby,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But like I said, being from Harlem, you got May's
dip set. Cam. You know, Cam is dip set fucking
the locks. Big, you know, Big Al McGrath. It's a
lot of legendary spiders, too many to name, too many, man,
But like, what was the pressure like for you to
(11:18):
at your name in that historical line up?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Because you know, Bliss, it never really was no pressure
to be honest, because you know, I knew where I
was from, but I also knew, you know, I had
my own path to make and lead. So like, I
think it gave me more of a confidence to be
a part of the group of names that you said,
instead of really having pressure, because you know, when I'm
(11:44):
everywhere I go, I'm waving a flag of Harlem, and
obviously you know I'm a New York nigga. So I
got a lot of friends that's from the South and
the Midwest and the West Coast. So, you know, being
a Harlem nigga, I always stand out because when niggas
ask me where where I'm from, I say, that's right
to say New York.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
That's right. Nobody says it's crazy. You could be in
another country and you're like, yo, where you're from. Niggas
say they borrow.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You know what I mean, Let them figure out where
that's Oh, New York. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So I think it gave me more of a confidence
instead of a pressure to actually like live up to
what other niggas was doing, because I feel like I
not even I feel, I know, like I came.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Up in it in the Internet era, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
So it's completely different to how you know, the guys
that trailblazed the way came up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So, man, listen, y'all killed this. Listen. I go to
my streams, I go to my Spotify and look at
my old albums and be like, oh, my ship was
weak on here, and then you look at me like
they like, damn, but I went gold. The foot traffic
was good, niggas digital traffic was bad. But for y'all
to come up in that new era, y'all paving the
(12:57):
way now for the like my next thingment whatever, go
into the other brand deals, the merchandise, the the weed brands,
like everything. How was that? Because I feel like you
want of the main, like the main only artists in
New York that really maintained his brand outside of music
where it's not just about music. When they spoke, when
(13:18):
they speak, smoke dizzer right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You know what's ill blizzled?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Like I was talking to Rob Mark mean years ago,
like cause I used to be thirsty to get on
a Freshman cover Like that was like something that I
had to have back then, and I never got it
and all my friends got it, like niggas that was
next to me, niggas that came up under me. I
used to be like, what do niggas got against me?
And then Rob told me it wasn't what people had
(13:42):
against me. It was like yo, like what are you
doing outside of rap? Like you gotta have something else
other than rap to make a story for real this day?
Like yeah you nice, Yeah you talk that shit, but
what else? And from that day I was always thinking
about my what else because it got to be more
than just you know, rap, It's business, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
So putting all those components around, like the weed, the wrestling,
the fly ship, you know what I mean, Like it's
it's all different brands and ways that I could compartmentalize
and make money off these things. So I think just
having that mentality made it a little easier for me
to develop ship and actually keep it going. And obviously
(14:30):
I can't do it by myself because nothing great happens alone.
I mean, so I had a lot of partners along
the way and I still do.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So, you know, just taking that serious.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You can making my notes look like I'm Steven a
blessing because every time you say something, I look down.
I'm like, yeah, that's going into my next note. K
I need an ESPN spot.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Now you're at this.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's really good at this. Good look. And I was
gonna say, because you know, you said your business mind like,
that's what I was gonna say, because these kids out
here today don't really understand how important ownership is. Man Like,
speak to them about hindpoint ownership is behind your brand
and how that shapes your like your mentality shaped about
that because if you don't own nothing, then you're just
(15:19):
doing all the footwork as a slave trader.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And you know, because the ill part is you learn
how important ownership is.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Not owner shit, you know what I'm saying, right, and
ownership and I learned. I learned the hardway.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I learned from you know, just being impulsive and doing
shit when you just see that one number and you
just got to get to that, and just being impulsive
instead of just being like, you know what, own money
ain't good money and if I wait, I can get
triple at quadruple that. But you know, being young and
having a family, it makes you impulsive, especially being an artist,
(15:56):
a nigga from New York that got to keep up,
you know what I mean. At the beginning, I made
a lot of impulsive decisions that made me have to learn,
you fee what I'm saying. So going through that hitting
my head a couple of times, I was like, all right,
doing the same shit over and over and expecting different results.
This is insanity and I'm not a crazy nigga. So
(16:20):
slowed this down a little bit and focus on one
thing and then build a team around me to make
sure that these things don't happen against That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Owning is very important.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's a fact. All these kids, they be so quick
they see the dollar. Yeah, don't think about the end results.
That's how it all. My theory is, if somebody ready
to give you something up front, what they making on
the back end, how much is it worth you? Feel me?
Because nothing is free. If you're gonna give me this,
then I mean you got a profit. You're not giving
(16:51):
me this money to lose. You gotta think about it
that way. So you know, that's my thing when I
talk to these young boys about all that, Like you
was the first I heard, like, you know, when you
listen to the Southern rappers, like the pemp Seas, the
scar Faces, the you know, even out west and the Bay,
a lot of the Bay areas had that you know, chill,
(17:13):
the smoke adelic vibe, the like the pimp field you like,
I feel like the first East Coast consistent artists with
that as hell? Do you feel like you get enough
credit for that, for your contribution on the East Side
for that?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh damn, that's a good question, bro.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
No, But to hear niggas like you say that when
I'm talking to niggas like kiss you know what I mean,
and other the niggas that I grew up on that
y'all inspired me. When I hear from y'all and let
me know, Okay, you're doing it right, you know what
I mean? And nah, I don't feel like I get
(18:01):
that credit. But at the end of the day, my
story's still going. So I'm just I'm pushing. I'm not
really looking for the praise either, like, but to get
the acknowledgement, it's always it's always good to know that
I'm on my path, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So I'm a firm believer whether one or one million, right,
because one could tell a million facts, you know what
I mean. So I'm a firm believer of that man
one person listening and know and see and can tell.
That's so all you need, man and integrity is everything.
You can hear it in the music. Niggas know when
(18:34):
you you authentic or you're faking it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You know what I'm saying, see it because you know
when the cameras ain't on, can't fake were full sizing
everybody up the right, Are you really what you say
you are.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's the shit. Social media giving advantage to the to
y'all with where and out there you can hide a nigga.
A lot of these artists hid behind the Double Excel interview,
the saucemag interview. They video and then the camera cut off.
You never see these guys again. So to you as
a fan, you like, oh, he with that ship, and
then social media come out and you're like, wait a minute,
(19:08):
hold on niggas mushing this hood like he can't even
get out the car to go to the store, Like
wait one second. Like social media ruined it for a
lot of niggas from my era, but I feel like
they enhanced it for a lot of niggas for your.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, because the niggas from or some of the niggas
from my era, we just know that, you know, you
don't gotta be if you're not. I'm not a tough guy,
that's right. You fee what I'm saying, Like, that's not the.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Coolest rule the world.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Maybe you feel me, So I'm just like, you know,
I'm gonna always be unapologetically me because that's all I
know how to do.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Now, do I get angry? Yeah, nigga I'm human, you
know what I'm saying. So you know, niggas get mad.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
But at the same time, I know how to carry
myself on social media because I know it's other people watching.
Like my kids follow me on social media. My niece
followed me, like, you know, I got I got kids
that's looking at me.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So it's like anytime I pull them in my stories,
my kids is the first person, the first people there.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So that's a fact.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I know I'm being watched. And not only that the
world is watching, you know what I mean, it's people
watching me that I've never seen a day in my life.
So I got to make sure that you know, I
represent the right way for my family at the very least,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's a fact. That's a fact. Do you feel like
let me ask you in your opinion, because I get
this question a lot. People always ask me what project
or what record you feel like best represents you or
tell a story about you.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would say an album.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I say my album with Pete Rock, Don't Smoke Rockete.
That was that was like the catalyst to me, like
being recognized by people I really.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Look up to.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You know, Pete Rock is a legend.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Because it was like, nigga, you got an album with
Pete Rock, how did you do it?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Fact?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I mean so, And Pete was like my Phil Jackson,
Like I was in the studio for every song with
Pete and Pete will be like, nah, do it over?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Mmm you need Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
He will push back like no know about that. Oh no,
that's that's it right there. Don't do nothing else.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And he was allowing me to challenge him like, nah.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Pete, I know you know everybody loved the drums, but
let's hold the drums on this one. He's like, you
know what, We're gonna name the song hold of Drums.
And that's like one of my most popular songs.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That's crazy, hold the drum. I told my niggas cheat
album gonna be called it's cheat fall. It's cheat fault.
It's your Fall'm in here rapping this ship. Man, you
did this ship. It's your fault. So if they say
it's whack, it's cheat fault. If it's lick, it's back.
I still cheat fun yo, like doing the brand and
(22:04):
the hip hop shit man, Like how do you stay
focused on different my high words get fucked up? Keeping
it separated like one from the other because I'm gonna
tell you I've been in this business. I had the
brands get low I done, have the brand Cush Gang.
(22:25):
You know, we got the rock Salid moving, we got
the weed brand mind right. And I ain't got one
T shirt on nobody nothing because I'm not from that era.
You know, at Rockefeller we had somebody that did that.
A whole department. You go down there and tell them, yo,
I want this done. You had boxes of T shirts
(22:46):
next week in the office waiting for you. You came
up with a logo, you sent it downstairs, Bobby Dash,
run that shit downstairs. Boxes of hatbands, hats, T shirts
was waiting. So I never knew where to go out
and get that plug that footwork for that. It's not
like the capsule spot.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
See for us.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know, I just utilize my buddy system, you know
what I mean, And like how I separate it is,
sometimes you can't separate it. Sometimes the worlds just meet
regardless as much as you try to separate them. Sometimes
it just makes sense to you know, cross brands certain things.
But I lean on my buddy system, you know what
I mean, Like, what good is your comrades if you
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can't utilize them.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's not using them, it's utilizing them, like.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
You know, Like for instance, West makes some of the
best merch in hip hop, if not the best merch.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I wear his shit like I wear Blendciago, Gucci or.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Anything else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
My man Steven Quasi, they got killoff season, the lever
shit I'm always and I'm wearing that shit. I'm paying
top dollar too, you know what I mean. The same
way how I'm gonna spend with any of these other brands.
It's not only to support my friends, but I like
fly shit and I'm gonna utilize them niggas too the same.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So it's like you gotta you gotta build your farm
of people around you and all y'all. You know, we
all feed off each other like we you know, we
don't charge each other for features and no shit like that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Like nigga, We just working.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Keeping it, pushing, keeping it in the family is really
like the black dollar when you think about it, you
know what I mean, We keep it in the family,
we always gonna expand it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's what's up That bring me to a story. I
remember being a young nigga. Right. It was probably like
about twenty one, twenty two, and I'm walking in this
is when we did h We was in Death Jam office,
Rockefeller on fifty yeah, and I'm walking in the building
coming in there. I got two three of my niggas
with me, Jay coming out, and I'm like, yo, ho,
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what's uthing? Man? I need I need more radio support.
I'm telling this, nigga, I need niggas. You know this
when the merch the label wasn't the same Rockefeller. This
was at the tail end where you put that call in.
It wasn't boxes and T shirts waiting no more, you
know what I mean. And he was like, Yo, you
gotta get your niggas to move around and start. You know,
none of your niggas got no plays. None of these
niggas know how to move around. So I'm looking at
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my niggas like, now all my niggas know how to do?
Is is? Shoot? It's that nigga was like, then you
need new niggas. So I'm looking at him like, Nigga,
I can't get rid of by these my niggas, my
childhood friends. I can't fork them for only knowing how
to hold it down, and he was like, but we
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don't got no beef. Niggas don't neither Holy down or
nigga have to think like damn, even my new niggas
ain't make no merch. I ain't got some new niggas.
They ain't make no yo. They Florida at the range learning.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Nigga. They preparing like if you go that, oh man,
I gotta send you some Marco blizzle.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Just I see you the mock up some way to
get it done.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Just go come hold me down, man, put me in
the game. Yo. The merch ship got you, I got you.
We slipping dog you that nigga burn The man told me, yo, bro,
I make I don't even want to you know you
sometimes you're like talking personal conversations you because then they won't
talk to you again.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Bernie like that now killing him.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
He is destroying them.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Niggas in a wheelchair right now performing though the niggas.
I think he tores fibula and some ship like.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
No, niggas ain't even athletic. How you do that? A blank?
You can't smoke a blood? Turn the fi yo?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Are you well?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
How you rolling up in the.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Niggas is not athletic. Those are like sports injuries. While
nigga like, Yo.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
When I see that, I was like, how the fuck
did he do that? But I've seen him on the internet.
But then I also seen him in front of like
thousand people, Like last night, I said, get.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Better, my nigga, Man, get the fib right. Damn. I
remember I broke my ship Man in Miami got hit
by a cab riding them scooters and they had to
do summer jam in the wheelchair. I thought I was Big,
because God, my blessed. I seen when Big got his
car accident. He had a show and he had the
girl wheeling him around. So I thought I'd do that
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as summer jam. It wasn't that legend It wasn't that legendary.
No one remembers.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It wasn't that legendary.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It was legendary in my mind. Remember th wor Yo,
What keeps you grounded in this business? Being through you know,
having all the relationships you have, being through all the situations, deals, independent,
you know, records not going like you wanted to go?
What keeps you grounded as an artist? The way you like? Man,
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I'm gonna still stay focused, you know what I'm saying
because a lot of niggas, you know, they tend to
give up and not know how close they was.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I'll be one of them artists like I used to be,
where it's like, man, fuck this shit, and then it'll
always be one thing to bring me right back. But
just being persistent, you know what I mean, and just
knowing that this shit is a marathon for real, I
mean so like, and I guess keeping me grounded also
is looking at people that actually gave up, you know
(28:31):
what I mean, and not saying uh maliciously, like respectfully,
like I don't want to be like this, nigga.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I gotta keep it going, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
And and obviously you know the people that believe in
me that I'm actually doing this for them too, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
So it's like I can't. I can't give up, nigga.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I've been nigga, done came too far anyway, So it's like,
I ain't coming this far to just come this far.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That's a fact, feel me, that's a fact. That's a bar.
I ain't come this far just to come this far.
That's a boy, I think, Boy, French just said that. Right,
there's new joint with him and Max, Yeah, with him
in Max Man shout out the way the cokewave. See yeah,
I'm fifty the coke wave. They got me back on
the coke wave almost on the fifth flow, and I'm
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on the coke wave. Ship is bad music influencing the
old hands now, YI, so out of everything, man, like
you do the sports. Y'all got your sports entertainment thing. Man,
you got the brand companies, you do the music. What's
the most fun? You think? You can't say? All three?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Nah, all three ain't the most fun.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Because you know, obviously, nigga, we came up smoking bud
so just to be able to move how we move
with the weeds, like that's unfathomable. You can't, we can't
fathom that.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Hold on from New York. Y'all gonna wait till I
move to legalize it. After y'all to locked me up
in every county, then at every precinct, pay every fine,
and every time I got locked up in always a
school zone around where the fine go extra five hundred
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because you in the school zone. I got locked up
on the GW and they said I was in the
school zone. The fuck is there school on the bridge?
Word like? And this is when they came out with
the Mason jaws. Now they got just lit the al
and the cop right there, the smoke going up. It
looked like a cartoon to smoke on there. And he
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saw me. Nigga pulled me over lout. This is one
of the funny stories. We're gonna go back. I'm sorry,
but I gotta tell his story because got the Mason jaw.
If you know a chia pet, that's what the Mason
jaw felt like. Looking where to stash it car. That
shit felt like it was growing as the cop was
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walking up, it was growing more like I just put
the ship on the dashboard, like fucking ain't nowhere to
put this ship caught. So of course he takes me
out the car, take us to the precinct. We get
down there. I got got the bleak on my own tatty.
Then they could go to take pictures. You got tattoos,
know how they hit you with that? Let me take
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pictures and they could take a picture of my tattoo.
He looked and say, you Memphis bleak. I'm looking at
the nigga like, well, I just so you think I'm
a fuck I'm that much of a fan, nigga? You
bugging like Nigga was like, come on, man, tore the
ship up and let us go my nigga on some
g ship Like I'm a fan, Nigga rocks for Why
you ain't say that on the bridge, Like I ain't
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know that shit work. Hey, y'all heard of Rockefella, you know,
but that we story you just said made me think
about that. Man. But I was asking.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You the most fun?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, what you have the most fun or the most
intriguing thing that that you wake up and drives you
the most, give you that push.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Right now is the wrestling shit.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I'm having the most fun in the world with that
ship right now because it's like, you know, it's a
new business and I'm getting to like mingle with people
that I grew up watching and I'm learning not from
a fan perspective, but from the business perspective, like behind
the curtain actually being you know, one of the owners
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of a wrestling promotion, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And that's different.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's super different because we indeed, but we we work
on a major.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Structure.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
So I'm learning so much and I'm getting to put
my knowledge of being a fan for forty one years
to test. So I'm having the most fun with that
shit and just creating matches and putting new wrestlers on,
giving nigga shots, you know what I mean, and just
being embedded.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You we can signed wrestlers. Choke. That's a wrestler. Dog.
Somebody in the hood think they got that max skill wrestler.
We wrestler entertainment. Now you know what I mean. Yo,
So ship you've been there. Let's go Top five all
time wrestlers, Top five all time in order? No no,
(33:29):
no order?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
All right, Well I'm gonna go. My number one is
hoh Kogan.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
That's right. I don't care. Despite whatever, Yeah, despite the controversy.
Niggas know they was a hooka.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Baby I was, and not for nothing blues with that
was my men, Like, oh, you know, I knew that
was my man.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I never been saying see and they said he was racist.
Come on, dug you darker than me, you know what
I mean? Like dog, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Like I went and had dinner women and all that,
like a couple of year years ago.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
That was that was my man.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
And you know shout out the Nick his his son
Nick Nick still home today.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
But Hogan, Chris Jericho.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I love Chris Jericho because he got the the fucking
art of reinventing, you know what I mean That Nigga
reinvented for the last thirty years, just every year something different.
And he didn't won every championship in every promotion, Stone Coat,
Steve Auston, you know what I mean, Like he ushered
in the ad an error in wrestling that.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Nigga came in drinking a beer, crack a can of
beer on your head. Yeah, straight with the bad leg too.
I didn't got the stinky leg early.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And the George, the George before, he just wasn't wrestling
in them. But he's coming out with the George the
can of beer in the middle, yo. I mean Undertaker.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
The Undertaker changed the game. They could come out, shake
the rope on you and choke you out.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, because we knew it wasn't it's it's not a
human walk in the earth, that's like the Undertaker, But
we all took him serious, you know what I mean,
Like he had the art of making the fans believe.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But it was rumors about him. They were saying they
they doubled the Undertaker, like they put a new undertaker.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Not an eye.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So that was nineteen ninety five when they did an
Undertaker first Undertaker thing for Summer Slant. They had Prome
Tom Bryant Lee playing undertaker to confuse niggas.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
They said that with the Warrior too. Before that they doubled.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
But no, that's not true. That's just people just chatting.
But on my number five is probably Sean Michaelson.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
K. That's right, that's right. The Heartbreak Kid by nigga,
fuck it, what was it? The Heartbreak Foundation was it?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
That's the heart Found found Yeah, that's Brad Hard and
Jim and Anvil yo.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
See I was like tag team niggas because those niggas
the Killer Bees, the Road Warriors, yeah, my nigga, yeah,
the Road Warriors was yeah, before they merged, it when
it was the w A.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, before they went.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
To before they merged, it was w c W and
w w F. Then they merged, they made it what
w w E. All right?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
So w w E came because w w F is
the World Wide Wildlife Federation, so they had likely they
lost a dispute to them, so they had to take
the f and turn it in the E and it's
it's sports entertainment. Like they didn't w w E don't
they not?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Like insane? Man, I told you, Jake, the snake was
my nigga. Nigga put the snake on you word, then
you had my man an the move? Still eat the turnbuckle.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You know, niggas, you're judging real life.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Nah, chill, But niggas, you know what a lot of
these young niggas what the iron sheet move? Put a
little nigga in the cammebel clutch. That nigga dropping his
flag nigga Like I'm going straight, I would be a
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doctor down. What's that you did to me? Remember back
in the day niggas was practicing the moves or niggas
in the hood like put a little nigga in the
campbell clutch.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I'm telling you that's how niggas was getting put to sleep.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, what's my nigga? The ted dB man dollar dream
on a niggas or my man? Damn when it was
the fucking n w O. What's my man had to
slick here with the tooth pick? Nah, that water juice,
raise a ramot, put you in his young niggas dropping.
(38:06):
I'm telling you you'll get a young nigga to get
out the game. Yo. That she came in with the
bent up shoes and kicked ass.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And she was like that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, he was like that, my nigga. That's what's up, man.
So let me ask you this. You gave me your
top five wrestlers, top five all time smoking rap niggas.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Oh, nobody asking me that.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I ain't no order. I'm gonna go With's Khalifa. He
gotta be up there, Yeah, he up there. Currency of course,
gotta be.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Kiss kiss.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Actually, I'm gonna put this, gotta put them together as
a group, okay, kiss styles.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I love smoking with them. Niggas ain't hearing stories. So
that's that's three.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
You me. Oh shit, I'm in the Smoker Haulics.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Four and then my fifth one, my fifth one, I'm
gonna put dog in there because this nigga, Snoop. Always,
for any time I ever smoke with this nigga, I'll
be coughing and ship.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I got beef with Snoop. It's up. It's up. Every
time I see Snoop, it's up. That nigga. Only nigga
smoked me out where I'm like, yo, fair, I can't.
I'm done. I'm too high. I can't smoke no more. Twice.
You know how the first time it happened is like
this shit ain't happening again. Next time I see this nigga,
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I don't care how many blunts you roll. This ship
ain't happening again. And then I get up with him again,
and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
This happened again.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yo. I got a picture with Dazz and Snoop and Corrupt,
and the fucking picture is so much smoke in the room.
The smoke looked like it's posing with us for the
flick war. My nigga, Snoop, it's on, it's up. He
don't even know it's beef. He don't even know it's beef.
It's up soon, it's up. Soon as I see you
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for her, I was waiting for you. I was gonna
be like, no, Snoop. But then now my top my
top five smoking rappers from my era. I gotta put
you put a group. I gotta put the dog Pound,
gotta put Snoop. I gotta put my nigga exhibit.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Got to missing one that I I bunched all two
niggas up together on the weed ship.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Who else I gotta put up there? Man, I gotta
put red in Meth as a group too. Without redding Meth,
I be smoking sticks his seeds in my weed. I
felt like Biggie was talking to me. I still pick
seeds out your wied. I felt like that ship was
a straight shot at me because I was at some
show and I'm throwing that ship. And then I heard
the verse and I'm like that nigga was talking. Biggie
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shitted on me. That was about me. Yeah, and Rad
and Meth we got the LA and they was like
what you're smoking on? And I showed them. They like,
come on, little Bro came with me and they took
me to the Homie and I got some ship and
that changed my life. So they gotta go up there.
Who else from my era that was a major smoker,
fucking hauling.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Mm see. I think about backstage when it was you and.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Jah No Joe's smoke all it, but jo Yo. I
love my bros. Man, I love you Joe, you know
I love you, You my nigga. But Joe still smoke
dispensary weed. He don't care like you know, his levels
to this ship y'all, don't he don't care. He's smoking.
It don't matter like Roland, he don't care. So that's
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why now no he up there, he'll honorary mentioned. But no,
I don't care because you're my man. No, no, you're
my man. Who else I'm trying to think because it's
a few niggas that I done burnt it down where
we done blazed it. Mm yo, this one I was
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left field. Niggas would never think paused in his name
though it's twenty twenty six. To you, my bro, you
might have to change your name. Miss the Cheeks, you
definitely got to change your name. It's twenty twenty six.
I love you, my nigga. We can't call you mister Cheeks.
Not in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Nigga, I didn't even know he was a buddhahead like
that what the lost boys?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yo? I was in Miami. One of the illest smoking
sessions I had. I'm in Miami. It's me Miss the Cheeks,
a corrupt wow like niggas would never think and know
my niggas bro, like man Cheeks, you gotta pull up.
We gotta talk about this new name. In twenty twenty six,
we readvanced, I'm blizzle. We changing his name. Fuck that,
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that's my dog. He gonna wanna fight me. We ain't
see me because he from back in the day. You know,
niggas be like that, or see you and be like, yo,
you owe me five minutes. You owe me five minutes.
You know, see you and be like yo, five minutes.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I ain't got nothing to do with.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Nah, but cheeks up there. He'll smoking ass nigga too. Man.
I gotta put him up there because he blowed down
heavy with your boy. Word Another thing, man, what's your
take on the direction you feel New York music scene
is going.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
That's a tough question because I want to take myself
out of it and answer it non bias. I think
it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I'm not really a fan of.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Drill music like that, but I respect any you know,
anybody getting money from the craft, and it's art, artists art.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I think the way you might want to say it
is the way I say it. I'm a fan of
drill music, just not the actual real crime you're rapping
about that in the music, because if it's a real crime,
I don't like it. Now. I feel like an informant.
You told me too much information, Like my daughter say,
t M, I.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
You know, but but you know, I'm a fan of
I'm a fan of people that's saying something.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
So I like artists like Fergie Baby, I like I
like jay.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Wan, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
I like cock Cash, I like Jimmy Badass Joey.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
So what I'm saying, And obviously you know Griselda clearly yo.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
The niggas I told I seen Bennie in Atlanta. I
told that Nigga. Yah, niggas gotta have a plantation where
y'all breathing these fucking artists like mutants like it gotta
be because come on, man, how you just find it?
Thirty eight stove God Like? First of all, we're still
dealing with west Side Bennie. You know, we ain't even
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digest ya niggas yet, and y'all coming with new niggas now.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
But the ill part is the niggas that you name,
They've been around what I'm saying, Like Nigga, I got
a record with Special six me Special Nipsey so special
jumping YEA rest in peace was man.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
He was on his way. Bron every time I listen
to that album, I'm like he was he was so
he was that close taking this whole shit over. Bro,
It's crazy the US up word. So another question, right,
because you know how a lot of rappers be like,
I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler. I'm a hustler
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that rap. So do you feel like you're a rapper
with a brand or do you feel like you're a
brand that just raped ship?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
That's a great question. I'm both.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I'm both, you know, regardless rapping out, I'm gonna find
some way to get some money.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Hustler baby, So that's that's the hustler spirit. I mean,
I'm a hallom nigga. Figure it out.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, all the all the all the work. Yeah, all
the work, Harlem all day. You couldn't even walk two steps,
got it right? Your poppy poppy rights fiscal Bobby right,
poppy like nigga, I came to buy some sneaker. Fuck,
I don't want no coke today.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
They don't get hit with the rabbit food, you know, Jesus,
that real zip and then go in the building, hit
you the rabbit food, come out a.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Whole nother building.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
You be looking for that nigga for three years, so
you give up like it was just four hundred. Yeah,
I mean, but I'm both, you know what I mean,
Because I'm also I'm definitely a rapper, you know what
I mean. Like it's like niggas that be on the Internet,
in the Internet nigga. You made announcement on the Internet.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
You are Internet nigga.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
So I'm definitely a rapper.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
That's a fact, man.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Respect man. So when it's all said and done and
you're chilling, got that Jay grand kids running around, because
you might be on Jay's by, they might not be
a blood. You might get a paper game. You know
what I mean? Me too, I might be there with you,
but I don't know. It's it's hard, It's difficult, But
you know what I mean. What you want your legacy
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to be outside of just being a Harlem, New York rapper,
what do you want people to remember? Smoke for.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Somebody that put that shit on, somebody that.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Somebody that was authentic to his mission and just to himself,
you know what I mean, A.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Wordsmith, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (48:18):
And uh, just somebody that never I never hit the plug,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Like I'm always.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I'm always uh, I'm always giving somebody a link, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Like I'm not trying to hide the plug.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
I've always shared my platform with anybody that was around me.
So somebody that gave back, you know what I mean
to the culture. And then you know, anytime, like I said,
I said this in another interview, but this is about
to be my shiit. Anytime you smoke some good weed,
(48:55):
thank you to God.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Oh that's what's up man? Hell yeah, man? What's one
thing you It's a question people ask me. So I'm
trying to figure the right way to ask you that
you felt like and I took this thing from zero
to a hundred that you're most proud of that you
look back and say, this is exactly how I planned it.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Wow, I think the smoke does a brand.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Mm well, I mean that's definitely something I took from
zero to one hundred. Whereas, like you know, sometimes when
I'm telling stories and I'm like, damn, that really fucking happened.
I mean, cause it's like I never sat with something
for a little while, and it was just like I
never celebrated a move for more than a day of
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it happening like the next day. I'm like, I'm trying
to do new I'm trying to create new history. So
I think the Smoke does a brand from zero to
one hundred to see where it came with, where I
started and where I'm at today.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I'm proud of that.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
That's what's up? Man? What's so? What's next? Man? What's next?
What could people expect? What's next from Smoke? Man? You
know what I mean? Like what you got, what you're
working on? What people should expect? Like? Yeah, I mean
twenty twenty six is the year the horse Man?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah for sure, money for sure.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
I mean definitely more music. I think I'm winding down
with the music a little bit. I think I'm a
I'm like on like a three year watch. Yeah, I mean,
give or take, but definitely more music. Trying to collab
with everybody that I love and respect. We need to
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get that uh, that blizzling dissititate.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Let's do it man, Man, I'm working you know.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
And you know obviously don't smoke rock too with Pete Rock.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
I got a crazy record that I'm about to drop
with we talk about three with with three.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Of the people that niggas love. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
I'm gonna just say I got a record with a
Currency West and Max b Oh, I'm gonna kick the
year off. I mean so by the time, by the
time this interview dropped that joint and be out.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
And then Fourth Rope. You know what I mean. Fourth
Rope is really what That's what I need everybody to
be invested in.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Fourth turn jump off. Fourth.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
I got my flyweight champion and this guy right.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Come on, man, come on man, no chair, what's up?
Speaker 2 (51:44):
I love man, Champion, take your jewelry.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Man, the real the real one, give an opportunity to
pro wrestles all over the place. It's been a blessing
for us for real. So Real One just showing love.
Appreciate y'all love talking about wrestlings. That's right, man, tag
had you know karate and yea, these guys have been
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throwing wrestlers in their bars, so they got their own promotion.
Now that's right out here. Hustling, man, work hard, that's right, man,
definitely man.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Mother fucking brother, the real one.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
But yeah, get on YouTube, subscribe to Fourth Rope, follow
us on Instagram. Make sure you pull up to one
of the shows. Can get some of that good merch.
Can catch the real one live, catch the Hardy Boys,
I Tag Team shipping his live cat Zilla to our
World Champion live, and then the whole fourth Rope roster.
I'm hoping to have you there this year.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Tried to get it last year.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Man, there I'm there right cheat Joe in the day.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Now we go, We're gonna get it right.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
But yeah, man, just expect all cool ship man, cool
authentic original.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Culture ship man.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
That's exactly why I fuck with you, bro, That's why
you're a solid nigga. Man. You always gonna be family. Man.
We need more cool niggas in the world's fake tough
guy ship. Please stop, or we're gonna have a nigga
throw you off the fourth rope on your hand, nigga, Please,
you know what it is. It's rock solid Ducey Ji.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Oh, shout out, Charlie Man, Josh Bishop, Joe Alonso.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
You already know he's silent, this rock solid smoke dizzer
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Blizzle back in the building with another Rock Solid exclusive.
Got my brother here, my smoke partner. We should be
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Smoke Champs, man, Young Relly ching binging up. It might
be smoke after this one, but you know, I got
my dog, Smoked Dizzer in the building with me. What's
up my guy?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Come on man, good pla ain't fighting the go one.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's right man, Happy New Year, my brother, Happy New Year.
Singing y'all all out there at that wrestle MANI your
wrestling fast man. You know what I'm saying. What made
y'all get it? How did that even connect?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Like, you know, first and foremost shout out to my
brother west side Gun.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh wait o, Lord, they bad the gun. They said,
you can't ban the snowman. How they banded the gun?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know, you know, I'm gonna save that part of
the story for him to tell it. But you know,
we've been making some waves and shit got a little complicated.
I mean, so they did do my brother dirty on
that on that note, you know what I mean. But
(02:04):
we got into it, like you know, we since we
was kids. We love wrestling and being grown and being
able to actually purchase tickets. And some of these guys
are actual friends, you know, we support so we always
was front row at WrestleMania's or whatever. The premium main
event was a w ship t NA, but we got
(02:27):
the opportunity to do our own thing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So you know we got fourth rope.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's what's up man. That's dope, man. Congratulations on that
bro Tian hip hop and the wrestling was I ain't
never thought, but like you said, as a kid, we
always was in there with come on man, they had
what was my man animal steallna, my nigga got big
jaw stuff, all traded giant. You know what I'm saying.
(02:53):
That's when I was in there with Coco b Wad.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's the ever that introduced me to wrestling.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
My nigga, We all was a little niggas practicing that
shit on our little cousins like brothers like this, jumping
off the couch, elbowed in a neck nigga. Noah, that's
true man, that's what's up man. So you're doing the
music thing, man, what was to come up the moment
that you was like, let me get in, let me
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take this music shit serious man.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, you know I came up in a battle circuit,
in a battle circuit, but it was way before it
got commercial, wait, before the cameras really started to play
a part to it. But you know that gave me confidence.
But I when I really took it serious, I want
to say, it's uh hm hmm. I think once I
started writing for other people and getting some of those
(03:47):
ass cap checks.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Ship, that a change that to make everything here.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That made my parents take me serious, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So that was why they're always the first haters. Yo.
That's literally your first group of haters, your moms or
your pops, like your brother all that they the first crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But you know it was I was trying a lot
of shit, you know what I mean. And you know
my parents is is West Indians. So they wanted me
to get a job. Go get a job.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Like it looked like I was just jerking wreck until
they've seen something, they seen my name on it.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It was like okay, oh yeah keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah you should pay all they want to make sure
that you got paid.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, like you figured it out after that. You know,
they've been on they've been on board ship. They're my
biggest fans.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh yeah, they become That's how all the haters off.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Listen. My theory. My theory is the hater is your
biggest fan because they have to know everything about you
to hate you.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So they are your biggest fans in hindsight, you know
what I'm saying. So we gotta love it. And moms
and pops. You know, my mom's no, she was telling
me put them wraps down, now do that homework. Now
she looking like pick the fucking right what you're doing.
Did you talk about you in the pool?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah? Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
My mom's ain't she like you know, she's she's just happy.
I'm doing my own thing. My pops passed, but before
before he did, he was definitely my biggest fan. He'll
be mad at me, but he'll run into somebody and
I'll be the first person he Yo, you know smoke, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
He that's my son? That's right. He was proud.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
He was super proud.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's all you want to do. That's all you want
to do is make your parents proud. Man. That's what sure.
So I might have this miscon screw out. Did you
did dipset put you in the industry? You got on
through them or a different Now?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I sol shites bub shout out to my.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Brother Purple City, right right. You know I always had
the haze on them always. He was the one that
introduced me to real weed. You know.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, for sure that way back in here, Da s
is for sure pivotal and and getting me a part
of the system, you know what I mean, and teaching
me how ship works. And I met Shies through Johnny Ships.
That's you know, that's the first person actually gave me
a shot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And around I want to.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Say, oh four oh five, like the tail end of
what everybody knew Purple City to be with ag and
unlike you know, they was drifting off and doing their
own thing.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The second nicest nigga with glasses up straight up, rest
of peace, my man, Batman was the first nigga with
glasses man that he was nice. And then when I
sing un constant where he came out, I'm like, damn,
that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
He's a rapping ass nigga.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Word up, he's a rapper man.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
He's a rappers rapper for sure. For sure, I came
in the tail end of that. And you know, Shites
is still pivotal in my career today, you know what
I mean, Like, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He's doing this thing in the wee game man, right, sure,
that's what man. He was out here winning a round
with them. That's when it was piff.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
He actually made the word piff in the in the
Urban Dictionary is made by Shit's buff.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So no fucking way, man, that's what's up man. So
how did that link bridge the gap for you to
link with currency? Man? A man burned up man.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And I want to say, like nine, when we started,
like doing south By Southwest.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Damn, I was the first ones doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It was out there.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's around when it first started old Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, and we had the Smokers Club that was our
brand that we was pushing at the time, and we
did our first show in south By Southwest and spit
It was on that show. Whiz was on that show,
Jay Rock and Kendrick Lamar was on that show. Big
Crit was on that show, and you know that started
our brotherhood. But the first time I actually met Spitner
(08:04):
was when he was on the Freshman cover and I
think that was a little before we did south By
Southwest and it was a session with Mickey Fax. And
this is when Spitter was smoking blunts. I know he
don't want to hear that, but smoking blunts, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, he was the first to the
conversion of the Paper Paper.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Gang but.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
To answer the question, you know, going to south By Southwest,
that's what started the button brotherhood of all of us.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And that's how I really like started kicking it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And then you know, moving to Dame, you know what
I mean, when Dame had d D one seventy two,
that's where we.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Really Oh yeah, I remember he was fucking with Dame. Yeah. Man,
Dame and Spinner had drama too, yo, Chill, I forgot
about that. Yo.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I'm pretty sure they're good now, of course, you know,
but yeah, that's where we really was, like you know,
cutting records and just run around the city and just
you know, kmarate.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
We really got built, dud. That was the foundation, man.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's what's something. Man, currency a good dude. Man, I
was supposed to go out there to New Orleans and
funk with him. I'm gonna make it out there real soon. Man,
he got a Taple movie, trust me. I know by
g fucking you from a legendary you know, every borough
in New York got they Spinners got their legendary history.
Top dogs like being from Harlem though, Like that's that's
(09:36):
a lot of pressure because y'all put a lot of
people came out of Harlem Man. You know what I'm saying.
Might it's too many to name, but you know, the
elite main niggas mas like puffing from Harlem. But I
don't know how he adapted Harlem. You know what I'm saying,
I don't know how to happen the locks too. Lots
from Yonkers if they adapt their Halem too. Y'all cheating
(09:58):
my niggas is stealing artist. So we're gonna talk about
that on another episode. How harllm be just stealing niggas nigga? Yeah,
all them to you because it's love. It is, you
know it is. I'm not hating, but I'm just saying.
We never took a queen's nigga, just like he's Brooklyn.
Queens took Brooklyn niggas they took, Yeah, niggas definitely think
(10:21):
a z fro queens.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I want to say, yeah, y'all, lord, y'all lost some
y'all lost a few of the queens.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
You know what I'm saying. Niggas took niggas jack, But.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's love, you know, you know, it's it's a five
Borough thing when we're out of New York. But you know,
queens get the money. You know Harlem. You know what
we do in Brooklyn. You know how y'all niggas give
it up and then shout out to the brook.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No more we making it Brooklyn, keep on making it.
Were making it now. We got new mentality, y'all. I mean,
it's twenty twenty six. We gotta get this money, baby,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But like I said, being from Harlem, you got May's
dip set. Cam. You know, Cam is dip set fucking
the locks. Big, you know, Big Al McGrath. It's a
lot of legendary spiders, too many to name, too many, man,
But like, what was the pressure like for you to
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at your name in that historical line up?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Because you know, Bliss, it never really was no pressure
to be honest, because you know, I knew where I
was from, but I also knew, you know, I had
my own path to make and lead. So like, I
think it gave me more of a confidence to be
a part of the group of names that you said,
instead of really having pressure, because you know, when I'm
(11:44):
everywhere I go, I'm waving a flag of Harlem, and
obviously you know I'm a New York nigga. So I
got a lot of friends that's from the South and
the Midwest and the West Coast. So, you know, being
a Harlem nigga, I always stand out because when niggas
ask me where where I'm from, I say, that's right
to say New York.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
That's right. Nobody says it's crazy. You could be in
another country and you're like, yo, where you're from. Niggas
say they borrow.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You know what I mean, Let them figure out where
that's Oh, New York. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So I think it gave me more of a confidence
instead of a pressure to actually like live up to
what other niggas was doing, because I feel like I
not even I feel, I know, like I came.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Up in it in the Internet era, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
So it's completely different to how you know, the guys
that trailblazed the way came up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
So, man, listen, y'all killed this. Listen. I go to
my streams, I go to my Spotify and look at
my old albums and be like, oh, my ship was
weak on here, and then you look at me like
they like, damn, but I went gold. The foot traffic
was good, niggas digital traffic was bad. But for y'all
to come up in that new era, y'all paving the
(12:57):
way now for the like my next thingment whatever, go
into the other brand deals, the merchandise, the the weed brands,
like everything. How was that? Because I feel like you
want of the main, like the main only artists in
New York that really maintained his brand outside of music
where it's not just about music. When they spoke, when
(13:18):
they speak, smoke dizzer right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You know what's ill blizzled?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Like I was talking to Rob Mark mean years ago,
like cause I used to be thirsty to get on
a Freshman cover Like that was like something that I
had to have back then, and I never got it
and all my friends got it, like niggas that was
next to me, niggas that came up under me. I
used to be like, what do niggas got against me?
And then Rob told me it wasn't what people had
(13:42):
against me. It was like yo, like what are you
doing outside of rap? Like you gotta have something else
other than rap to make a story for real this day?
Like yeah you nice, Yeah you talk that shit, but
what else? And from that day I was always thinking
about my what else because it got to be more
than just you know, rap, It's business, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
So putting all those components around, like the weed, the wrestling,
the fly ship, you know what I mean, Like it's
it's all different brands and ways that I could compartmentalize
and make money off these things. So I think just
having that mentality made it a little easier for me
to develop ship and actually keep it going. And obviously
(14:30):
I can't do it by myself because nothing great happens alone.
I mean, so I had a lot of partners along
the way and I still do.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So, you know, just taking that serious.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You can making my notes look like I'm Steven a
blessing because every time you say something, I look down.
I'm like, yeah, that's going into my next note. K
I need an ESPN spot.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Now you're at this.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's really good at this. Good look. And I was
gonna say, because you know, you said your business mind like,
that's what I was gonna say, because these kids out
here today don't really understand how important ownership is. Man Like,
speak to them about hindpoint ownership is behind your brand
and how that shapes your like your mentality shaped about
that because if you don't own nothing, then you're just
(15:19):
doing all the footwork as a slave trader.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And you know, because the ill part is you learn
how important ownership is.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Not owner shit, you know what I'm saying, right, and
ownership and I learned. I learned the hardway.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
I learned from you know, just being impulsive and doing
shit when you just see that one number and you
just got to get to that, and just being impulsive
instead of just being like, you know what, own money
ain't good money and if I wait, I can get
triple at quadruple that. But you know, being young and
having a family, it makes you impulsive, especially being an artist,
(15:56):
a nigga from New York that got to keep up,
you know what I mean. At the beginning, I made
a lot of impulsive decisions that made me have to learn,
you fee what I'm saying. So going through that hitting
my head a couple of times, I was like, all right,
doing the same shit over and over and expecting different results.
This is insanity and I'm not a crazy nigga. So
(16:20):
slowed this down a little bit and focus on one
thing and then build a team around me to make
sure that these things don't happen against That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Owning is very important.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's a fact. All these kids, they be so quick
they see the dollar. Yeah, don't think about the end results.
That's how it all. My theory is, if somebody ready
to give you something up front, what they making on
the back end, how much is it worth you? Feel me?
Because nothing is free. If you're gonna give me this,
then I mean you got a profit. You're not giving
(16:51):
me this money to lose. You gotta think about it
that way. So you know, that's my thing when I
talk to these young boys about all that, Like you
was the first I heard, like, you know, when you
listen to the Southern rappers, like the pemp Seas, the
scar Faces, the you know, even out west and the Bay,
a lot of the Bay areas had that you know, chill,
(17:13):
the smoke adelic vibe, the like the pimp field you like,
I feel like the first East Coast consistent artists with
that as hell? Do you feel like you get enough
credit for that, for your contribution on the East Side
for that?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh damn, that's a good question, bro.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
No, But to hear niggas like you say that when
I'm talking to niggas like kiss you know what I mean,
and other the niggas that I grew up on that
y'all inspired me. When I hear from y'all and let
me know, Okay, you're doing it right, you know what
I mean? And nah, I don't feel like I get
(18:01):
that credit. But at the end of the day, my
story's still going. So I'm just I'm pushing. I'm not
really looking for the praise either, like, but to get
the acknowledgement, it's always it's always good to know that
I'm on my path, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So I'm a firm believer whether one or one million, right,
because one could tell a million facts, you know what
I mean. So I'm a firm believer of that man
one person listening and know and see and can tell.
That's so all you need, man and integrity is everything.
You can hear it in the music. Niggas know when
(18:34):
you you authentic or you're faking it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You know what I'm saying, see it because you know
when the cameras ain't on, can't fake were full sizing
everybody up the right, Are you really what you say
you are.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's the shit. Social media giving advantage to the to
y'all with where and out there you can hide a nigga.
A lot of these artists hid behind the Double Excel interview,
the saucemag interview. They video and then the camera cut off.
You never see these guys again. So to you as
a fan, you like, oh, he with that ship, and
then social media come out and you're like, wait a minute,
(19:08):
hold on niggas mushing this hood like he can't even
get out the car to go to the store, Like
wait one second. Like social media ruined it for a
lot of niggas from my era, but I feel like
they enhanced it for a lot of niggas for your.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, because the niggas from or some of the niggas
from my era, we just know that, you know, you
don't gotta be if you're not. I'm not a tough guy,
that's right. You fee what I'm saying, Like, that's not the.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Coolest rule the world.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Maybe you feel me, So I'm just like, you know,
I'm gonna always be unapologetically me because that's all I
know how to do.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Now, do I get angry? Yeah, nigga I'm human, you
know what I'm saying. So you know, niggas get mad.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
But at the same time, I know how to carry
myself on social media because I know it's other people watching.
Like my kids follow me on social media. My niece
followed me, like, you know, I got I got kids
that's looking at me.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So it's like anytime I pull them in my stories,
my kids is the first person, the first people there.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So that's a fact.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I know I'm being watched. And not only that the
world is watching, you know what I mean, it's people
watching me that I've never seen a day in my life.
So I got to make sure that you know, I
represent the right way for my family at the very least,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
That's a fact. That's a fact. Do you feel like
let me ask you in your opinion, because I get
this question a lot. People always ask me what project
or what record you feel like best represents you or
tell a story about you.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would say an album.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I say my album with Pete Rock, Don't Smoke Rockete.
That was that was like the catalyst to me, like
being recognized by people I really.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Look up to.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You know, Pete Rock is a legend.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Because it was like, nigga, you got an album with
Pete Rock, how did you do it?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Fact?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I mean so, And Pete was like my Phil Jackson,
Like I was in the studio for every song with
Pete and Pete will be like, nah, do it over?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Mmm you need Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
He will push back like no know about that. Oh no,
that's that's it right there. Don't do nothing else.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And he was allowing me to challenge him like, nah.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Pete, I know you know everybody loved the drums, but
let's hold the drums on this one. He's like, you
know what, We're gonna name the song hold of Drums.
And that's like one of my most popular songs.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That's crazy, hold the drum. I told my niggas cheat
album gonna be called it's cheat fall. It's cheat fault.
It's your Fall'm in here rapping this ship. Man, you
did this ship. It's your fault. So if they say
it's whack, it's cheat fault. If it's lick, it's back.
I still cheat fun yo, like doing the brand and
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the hip hop shit man, Like how do you stay
focused on different my high words get fucked up? Keeping
it separated like one from the other because I'm gonna
tell you I've been in this business. I had the
brands get low I done, have the brand Cush Gang.
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You know, we got the rock Salid moving, we got
the weed brand mind right. And I ain't got one
T shirt on nobody nothing because I'm not from that era.
You know, at Rockefeller we had somebody that did that.
A whole department. You go down there and tell them, yo,
I want this done. You had boxes of T shirts
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next week in the office waiting for you. You came
up with a logo, you sent it downstairs, Bobby Dash,
run that shit downstairs. Boxes of hatbands, hats, T shirts
was waiting. So I never knew where to go out
and get that plug that footwork for that. It's not
like the capsule spot.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
See for us.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know, I just utilize my buddy system, you know
what I mean, And like how I separate it is,
sometimes you can't separate it. Sometimes the worlds just meet
regardless as much as you try to separate them. Sometimes
it just makes sense to you know, cross brands certain things.
But I lean on my buddy system, you know what
I mean, Like, what good is your comrades if you
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can't utilize them.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's not using them, it's utilizing them, like.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
You know, Like for instance, West makes some of the
best merch in hip hop, if not the best merch.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I wear his shit like I wear Blendciago, Gucci or.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Anything else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
My man Steven Quasi, they got killoff season, the lever
shit I'm always and I'm wearing that shit. I'm paying
top dollar too, you know what I mean. The same
way how I'm gonna spend with any of these other brands.
It's not only to support my friends, but I like
fly shit and I'm gonna utilize them niggas too the same.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So it's like you gotta you gotta build your farm
of people around you and all y'all. You know, we
all feed off each other like we you know, we
don't charge each other for features and no shit like that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Like nigga, We just working.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Keeping it, pushing, keeping it in the family is really
like the black dollar when you think about it, you
know what I mean, We keep it in the family,
we always gonna expand it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's what's up That bring me to a story. I
remember being a young nigga. Right. It was probably like
about twenty one, twenty two, and I'm walking in this
is when we did h We was in Death Jam office,
Rockefeller on fifty yeah, and I'm walking in the building
coming in there. I got two three of my niggas
with me, Jay coming out, and I'm like, yo, ho,
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what's uthing? Man? I need I need more radio support.
I'm telling this, nigga, I need niggas. You know this
when the merch the label wasn't the same Rockefeller. This
was at the tail end where you put that call in.
It wasn't boxes and T shirts waiting no more, you
know what I mean. And he was like, Yo, you
gotta get your niggas to move around and start. You know,
none of your niggas got no plays. None of these
niggas know how to move around. So I'm looking at
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my niggas like, now all my niggas know how to do?
Is is? Shoot? It's that nigga was like, then you
need new niggas. So I'm looking at him like, Nigga,
I can't get rid of by these my niggas, my
childhood friends. I can't fork them for only knowing how
to hold it down, and he was like, but we
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don't got no beef. Niggas don't neither Holy down or
nigga have to think like damn, even my new niggas
ain't make no merch. I ain't got some new niggas.
They ain't make no yo. They Florida at the range learning.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Nigga. They preparing like if you go that, oh man,
I gotta send you some Marco blizzle.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Just I see you the mock up some way to
get it done.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Just go come hold me down, man, put me in
the game. Yo. The merch ship got you, I got you.
We slipping dog you that nigga burn The man told me, yo, bro,
I make I don't even want to you know you
sometimes you're like talking personal conversations you because then they won't
talk to you again.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Bernie like that now killing him.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
He is destroying them.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Niggas in a wheelchair right now performing though the niggas.
I think he tores fibula and some ship like.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
No, niggas ain't even athletic. How you do that? A blank?
You can't smoke a blood? Turn the fi yo?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Are you well?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
How you rolling up in the.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Niggas is not athletic. Those are like sports injuries. While
nigga like, Yo.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
When I see that, I was like, how the fuck
did he do that? But I've seen him on the internet.
But then I also seen him in front of like
thousand people, Like last night, I said, get.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Better, my nigga, Man, get the fib right. Damn. I
remember I broke my ship Man in Miami got hit
by a cab riding them scooters and they had to
do summer jam in the wheelchair. I thought I was Big,
because God, my blessed. I seen when Big got his
car accident. He had a show and he had the
girl wheeling him around. So I thought I'd do that
(27:27):
as summer jam. It wasn't that legend It wasn't that legendary.
No one remembers.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It wasn't that legendary.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It was legendary in my mind. Remember th wor Yo,
What keeps you grounded in this business? Being through you know,
having all the relationships you have, being through all the situations, deals, independent,
you know, records not going like you wanted to go?
What keeps you grounded as an artist? The way you like? Man,
(28:00):
I'm gonna still stay focused, you know what I'm saying
because a lot of niggas, you know, they tend to
give up and not know how close they was.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I'll be one of them artists like I used to be,
where it's like, man, fuck this shit, and then it'll
always be one thing to bring me right back. But
just being persistent, you know what I mean, and just
knowing that this shit is a marathon for real, I
mean so like, and I guess keeping me grounded also
is looking at people that actually gave up, you know
(28:31):
what I mean, and not saying uh maliciously, like respectfully,
like I don't want to be like this, nigga.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I gotta keep it going, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
And and obviously you know the people that believe in
me that I'm actually doing this for them too, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
So it's like I can't. I can't give up, nigga.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I've been nigga, done came too far anyway, So it's like,
I ain't coming this far to just come this far.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
That's a fact, feel me, that's a fact. That's a bar.
I ain't come this far just to come this far.
That's a boy, I think, Boy, French just said that. Right,
there's new joint with him and Max, Yeah, with him
in Max Man shout out the way the cokewave. See yeah,
I'm fifty the coke wave. They got me back on
the coke wave almost on the fifth flow, and I'm
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on the coke wave. Ship is bad music influencing the
old hands now, YI, so out of everything, man, like
you do the sports. Y'all got your sports entertainment thing. Man,
you got the brand companies, you do the music. What's
the most fun? You think? You can't say? All three?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Nah, all three ain't the most fun.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Because you know, obviously, nigga, we came up smoking bud
so just to be able to move how we move
with the weeds, like that's unfathomable. You can't, we can't
fathom that.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Hold on from New York. Y'all gonna wait till I
move to legalize it. After y'all to locked me up
in every county, then at every precinct, pay every fine,
and every time I got locked up in always a
school zone around where the fine go extra five hundred
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because you in the school zone. I got locked up
on the GW and they said I was in the
school zone. The fuck is there school on the bridge?
Word like? And this is when they came out with
the Mason jaws. Now they got just lit the al
and the cop right there, the smoke going up. It
looked like a cartoon to smoke on there. And he
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saw me. Nigga pulled me over lout. This is one
of the funny stories. We're gonna go back. I'm sorry,
but I gotta tell his story because got the Mason jaw.
If you know a chia pet, that's what the Mason
jaw felt like. Looking where to stash it car. That
shit felt like it was growing as the cop was
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walking up, it was growing more like I just put
the ship on the dashboard, like fucking ain't nowhere to
put this ship caught. So of course he takes me
out the car, take us to the precinct. We get
down there. I got got the bleak on my own tatty.
Then they could go to take pictures. You got tattoos,
know how they hit you with that? Let me take
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pictures and they could take a picture of my tattoo.
He looked and say, you Memphis bleak. I'm looking at
the nigga like, well, I just so you think I'm
a fuck I'm that much of a fan, nigga? You
bugging like Nigga was like, come on, man, tore the
ship up and let us go my nigga on some
g ship Like I'm a fan, Nigga rocks for Why
you ain't say that on the bridge, Like I ain't
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know that shit work. Hey, y'all heard of Rockefella, you know,
but that we story you just said made me think
about that. Man. But I was asking.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You the most fun?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, what you have the most fun or the most
intriguing thing that that you wake up and drives you
the most, give you that push.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Right now is the wrestling shit.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I'm having the most fun in the world with that
ship right now because it's like, you know, it's a
new business and I'm getting to like mingle with people
that I grew up watching and I'm learning not from
a fan perspective, but from the business perspective, like behind
the curtain actually being you know, one of the owners
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of a wrestling promotion, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And that's different.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's super different because we indeed, but we we work
on a major.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Structure.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
So I'm learning so much and I'm getting to put
my knowledge of being a fan for forty one years
to test. So I'm having the most fun with that
shit and just creating matches and putting new wrestlers on,
giving nigga shots, you know what I mean, and just
being embedded.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You we can signed wrestlers. Choke. That's a wrestler. Dog.
Somebody in the hood think they got that max skill wrestler.
We wrestler entertainment. Now you know what I mean. Yo,
So ship you've been there. Let's go Top five all
time wrestlers, Top five all time in order? No no,
(33:29):
no order?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
All right, Well I'm gonna go. My number one is
hoh Kogan.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
That's right. I don't care. Despite whatever, Yeah, despite the controversy.
Niggas know they was a hooka.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Baby I was, and not for nothing blues with that
was my men, Like, oh, you know, I knew that
was my man.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I never been saying see and they said he was racist.
Come on, dug you darker than me, you know what
I mean? Like dog, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Like I went and had dinner women and all that,
like a couple of year years ago.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
That was that was my man.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
And you know shout out the Nick his his son
Nick Nick still home today.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
But Hogan, Chris Jericho.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I love Chris Jericho because he got the the fucking
art of reinventing, you know what I mean That Nigga
reinvented for the last thirty years, just every year something different.
And he didn't won every championship in every promotion, Stone Coat,
Steve Auston, you know what I mean, Like he ushered
in the ad an error in wrestling that.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Nigga came in drinking a beer, crack a can of
beer on your head. Yeah, straight with the bad leg too.
I didn't got the stinky leg early.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And the George, the George before, he just wasn't wrestling
in them. But he's coming out with the George the
can of beer in the middle, yo. I mean Undertaker.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
The Undertaker changed the game. They could come out, shake
the rope on you and choke you out.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, because we knew it wasn't it's it's not a
human walk in the earth, that's like the Undertaker, But
we all took him serious, you know what I mean,
Like he had the art of making the fans believe.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But it was rumors about him. They were saying they
they doubled the Undertaker, like they put a new undertaker.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Not an eye.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So that was nineteen ninety five when they did an
Undertaker first Undertaker thing for Summer Slant. They had Prome
Tom Bryant Lee playing undertaker to confuse niggas.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
They said that with the Warrior too. Before that they doubled.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
But no, that's not true. That's just people just chatting.
But on my number five is probably Sean Michaelson.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
K. That's right, that's right. The Heartbreak Kid by nigga,
fuck it, what was it? The Heartbreak Foundation was it?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
That's the heart Found found Yeah, that's Brad Hard and
Jim and Anvil yo.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
See I was like tag team niggas because those niggas
the Killer Bees, the Road Warriors, yeah, my nigga, yeah,
the Road Warriors was yeah, before they merged, it when
it was the w A.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, before they went.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
To before they merged, it was w c W and
w w F. Then they merged, they made it what
w w E. All right?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
So w w E came because w w F is
the World Wide Wildlife Federation, so they had likely they
lost a dispute to them, so they had to take
the f and turn it in the E and it's
it's sports entertainment. Like they didn't w w E don't
they not?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Like insane? Man, I told you, Jake, the snake was
my nigga. Nigga put the snake on you word, then
you had my man an the move? Still eat the turnbuckle.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
You know, niggas, you're judging real life.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Nah, chill, But niggas, you know what a lot of
these young niggas what the iron sheet move? Put a
little nigga in the cammebel clutch. That nigga dropping his
flag nigga Like I'm going straight, I would be a
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doctor down. What's that you did to me? Remember back
in the day niggas was practicing the moves or niggas
in the hood like put a little nigga in the
campbell clutch.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I'm telling you that's how niggas was getting put to sleep.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, what's my nigga? The ted dB man dollar dream
on a niggas or my man? Damn when it was
the fucking n w O. What's my man had to
slick here with the tooth pick? Nah, that water juice,
raise a ramot, put you in his young niggas dropping.
(38:06):
I'm telling you you'll get a young nigga to get
out the game. Yo. That she came in with the
bent up shoes and kicked ass.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And she was like that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, he was like that, my nigga. That's what's up, man.
So let me ask you this. You gave me your
top five wrestlers, top five all time smoking rap niggas.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Oh, nobody asking me that.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I ain't no order. I'm gonna go With's Khalifa. He
gotta be up there, Yeah, he up there. Currency of course,
gotta be.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Kiss kiss.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Actually, I'm gonna put this, gotta put them together as
a group, okay, kiss styles.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I love smoking with them. Niggas ain't hearing stories. So
that's that's three.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
You me. Oh shit, I'm in the Smoker Haulics.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Four and then my fifth one, my fifth one, I'm
gonna put dog in there because this nigga, Snoop. Always,
for any time I ever smoke with this nigga, I'll
be coughing and ship.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
I got beef with Snoop. It's up. It's up. Every
time I see Snoop, it's up. That nigga. Only nigga
smoked me out where I'm like, yo, fair, I can't.
I'm done. I'm too high. I can't smoke no more. Twice.
You know how the first time it happened is like
this shit ain't happening again. Next time I see this nigga,
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I don't care how many blunts you roll. This ship
ain't happening again. And then I get up with him again,
and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
This happened again.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yo. I got a picture with Dazz and Snoop and Corrupt,
and the fucking picture is so much smoke in the room.
The smoke looked like it's posing with us for the
flick war. My nigga, Snoop, it's on, it's up. He
don't even know it's beef. He don't even know it's beef.
It's up soon, it's up. Soon as I see you
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for her, I was waiting for you. I was gonna
be like, no, Snoop. But then now my top my
top five smoking rappers from my era. I gotta put
you put a group. I gotta put the dog Pound,
gotta put Snoop. I gotta put my nigga exhibit.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Got to missing one that I I bunched all two
niggas up together on the weed ship.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Who else I gotta put up there? Man, I gotta
put red in Meth as a group too. Without redding Meth,
I be smoking sticks his seeds in my weed. I
felt like Biggie was talking to me. I still pick
seeds out your wied. I felt like that ship was
a straight shot at me because I was at some
show and I'm throwing that ship. And then I heard
the verse and I'm like that nigga was talking. Biggie
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shitted on me. That was about me. Yeah, and Rad
and Meth we got the LA and they was like
what you're smoking on? And I showed them. They like,
come on, little Bro came with me and they took
me to the Homie and I got some ship and
that changed my life. So they gotta go up there.
Who else from my era that was a major smoker,
fucking hauling.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Mm see. I think about backstage when it was you and.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Jah No Joe's smoke all it, but jo Yo. I
love my bros. Man, I love you Joe, you know
I love you, You my nigga. But Joe still smoke
dispensary weed. He don't care like you know, his levels
to this ship y'all, don't he don't care. He's smoking.
It don't matter like Roland, he don't care. So that's
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why now no he up there, he'll honorary mentioned. But no,
I don't care because you're my man. No, no, you're
my man. Who else I'm trying to think because it's
a few niggas that I done burnt it down where
we done blazed it. Mm yo, this one I was
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left field. Niggas would never think paused in his name
though it's twenty twenty six. To you, my bro, you
might have to change your name. Miss the Cheeks, you
definitely got to change your name. It's twenty twenty six.
I love you, my nigga. We can't call you mister Cheeks.
Not in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Nigga, I didn't even know he was a buddhahead like
that what the lost boys?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yo? I was in Miami. One of the illest smoking
sessions I had. I'm in Miami. It's me Miss the Cheeks,
a corrupt wow like niggas would never think and know
my niggas bro, like man Cheeks, you gotta pull up.
We gotta talk about this new name. In twenty twenty six,
we readvanced, I'm blizzle. We changing his name. Fuck that,
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that's my dog. He gonna wanna fight me. We ain't
see me because he from back in the day. You know,
niggas be like that, or see you and be like, yo,
you owe me five minutes. You owe me five minutes.
You know, see you and be like yo, five minutes.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I ain't got nothing to do with.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Nah, but cheeks up there. He'll smoking ass nigga too. Man.
I gotta put him up there because he blowed down
heavy with your boy. Word Another thing, man, what's your
take on the direction you feel New York music scene
is going.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
That's a tough question because I want to take myself
out of it and answer it non bias. I think
it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I'm not really a fan of.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Drill music like that, but I respect any you know,
anybody getting money from the craft, and it's art, artists art.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
I think the way you might want to say it
is the way I say it. I'm a fan of
drill music, just not the actual real crime you're rapping
about that in the music, because if it's a real crime,
I don't like it. Now. I feel like an informant.
You told me too much information, Like my daughter say,
t M, I.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
You know, but but you know, I'm a fan of
I'm a fan of people that's saying something.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
So I like artists like Fergie Baby, I like I
like jay.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Wan, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
I like cock Cash, I like Jimmy Badass Joey.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
So what I'm saying, And obviously you know Griselda clearly yo.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
The niggas I told I seen Bennie in Atlanta. I
told that Nigga. Yah, niggas gotta have a plantation where
y'all breathing these fucking artists like mutants like it gotta
be because come on, man, how you just find it?
Thirty eight stove God Like? First of all, we're still
dealing with west Side Bennie. You know, we ain't even
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digest ya niggas yet, and y'all coming with new niggas now.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
But the ill part is the niggas that you name,
They've been around what I'm saying, Like Nigga, I got
a record with Special six me Special Nipsey so special
jumping YEA rest in peace was man.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
He was on his way. Bron every time I listen
to that album, I'm like he was he was so
he was that close taking this whole shit over. Bro,
It's crazy the US up word. So another question, right,
because you know how a lot of rappers be like,
I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler. I'm a hustler
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that rap. So do you feel like you're a rapper
with a brand or do you feel like you're a
brand that just raped ship?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
That's a great question. I'm both.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I'm both, you know, regardless rapping out, I'm gonna find
some way to get some money.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Hustler baby, So that's that's the hustler spirit. I mean,
I'm a hallom nigga. Figure it out.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, all the all the all the work. Yeah, all
the work, Harlem all day. You couldn't even walk two steps,
got it right? Your poppy poppy rights fiscal Bobby right,
poppy like nigga, I came to buy some sneaker. Fuck,
I don't want no coke today.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
They don't get hit with the rabbit food, you know, Jesus,
that real zip and then go in the building, hit
you the rabbit food, come out a.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Whole nother building.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
You be looking for that nigga for three years, so
you give up like it was just four hundred. Yeah,
I mean, but I'm both, you know what I mean,
Because I'm also I'm definitely a rapper, you know what
I mean. Like it's like niggas that be on the Internet,
in the Internet nigga. You made announcement on the Internet.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
You are Internet nigga.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
So I'm definitely a rapper.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
That's a fact, man.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Respect man. So when it's all said and done and
you're chilling, got that Jay grand kids running around, because
you might be on Jay's by, they might not be
a blood. You might get a paper game. You know
what I mean? Me too, I might be there with you,
but I don't know. It's it's hard, It's difficult, But
you know what I mean. What you want your legacy
(47:49):
to be outside of just being a Harlem, New York rapper,
what do you want people to remember? Smoke for.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Somebody that put that shit on, somebody that.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Somebody that was authentic to his mission and just to himself,
you know what I mean, A.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Wordsmith, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (48:18):
And uh, just somebody that never I never hit the plug,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Like I'm always.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
I'm always uh, I'm always giving somebody a link, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Like I'm not trying to hide the plug.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
I've always shared my platform with anybody that was around me.
So somebody that gave back, you know what I mean
to the culture. And then you know, anytime, like I said,
I said this in another interview, but this is about
to be my shiit. Anytime you smoke some good weed,
(48:55):
thank you to God.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Oh that's what's up man? Hell yeah, man? What's one
thing you It's a question people ask me. So I'm
trying to figure the right way to ask you that
you felt like and I took this thing from zero
to a hundred that you're most proud of that you
look back and say, this is exactly how I planned it.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Wow, I think the smoke does a brand.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Mm well, I mean that's definitely something I took from
zero to one hundred. Whereas, like you know, sometimes when
I'm telling stories and I'm like, damn, that really fucking happened.
I mean, cause it's like I never sat with something
for a little while, and it was just like I
never celebrated a move for more than a day of
(49:48):
it happening like the next day. I'm like, I'm trying
to do new I'm trying to create new history. So
I think the Smoke does a brand from zero to
one hundred to see where it came with, where I
started and where I'm at today.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I'm proud of that.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
That's what's up? Man? What's so? What's next? Man? What's next?
What could people expect? What's next from Smoke? Man? You
know what I mean? Like what you got, what you're
working on? What people should expect? Like? Yeah, I mean
twenty twenty six is the year the horse Man?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah for sure, money for sure.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
I mean definitely more music. I think I'm winding down
with the music a little bit. I think I'm a
I'm like on like a three year watch. Yeah, I mean,
give or take, but definitely more music. Trying to collab
with everybody that I love and respect. We need to
(50:44):
get that uh, that blizzling dissititate.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Let's do it man, Man, I'm working you know.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (50:49):
And you know obviously don't smoke rock too with Pete Rock.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
I got a crazy record that I'm about to drop
with we talk about three with with three.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Of the people that niggas love. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
I'm gonna just say I got a record with a
Currency West and Max b Oh, I'm gonna kick the
year off. I mean so by the time, by the
time this interview dropped that joint and be out.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
And then Fourth Rope. You know what I mean. Fourth
Rope is really what That's what I need everybody to
be invested in.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Fourth turn jump off. Fourth.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
I got my flyweight champion and this guy right.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Come on, man, come on man, no chair, what's up?
Speaker 2 (51:44):
I love man, Champion, take your jewelry.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Man, the real the real one, give an opportunity to
pro wrestles all over the place. It's been a blessing
for us for real. So Real One just showing love.
Appreciate y'all love talking about wrestlings. That's right, man, tag
had you know karate and yea, these guys have been
(52:08):
throwing wrestlers in their bars, so they got their own promotion.
Now that's right out here. Hustling, man, work hard, that's right, man,
definitely man.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Mother fucking brother, the real one.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
But yeah, get on YouTube, subscribe to Fourth Rope, follow
us on Instagram. Make sure you pull up to one
of the shows. Can get some of that good merch.
Can catch the real one live, catch the Hardy Boys,
I Tag Team shipping his live cat Zilla to our
World Champion live, and then the whole fourth Rope roster.
I'm hoping to have you there this year.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Tried to get it last year.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Man, there I'm there right cheat Joe in the day.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Now we go, We're gonna get it right.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
But yeah, man, just expect all cool ship man, cool
authentic original.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Culture ship man.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
That's exactly why I fuck with you, bro, That's why
you're a solid nigga. Man. You always gonna be family. Man.
We need more cool niggas in the world's fake tough
guy ship. Please stop, or we're gonna have a nigga
throw you off the fourth rope on your hand, nigga, Please,
you know what it is. It's rock solid Ducey Ji.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Oh, shout out, Charlie Man, Josh Bishop, Joe Alonso.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
You already know he's silent, this rock solid smoke dizzer
Fourth Rope Baby dou sy yin. For more podcasts from
Our Heart Radio, visit our Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at and
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