July 2, 2021 • 16 mins
Run-DMCs music bridged the gap of rock and rap, representing people who were otherwise not being seen or heard. To Eminem – and many teenagers growing up in the 1980s – Run DMC were “The Beatles” of the rap scene. These Kings of Rock were the group that convinced the public that hip-hop was here to stay and all it took was two turntables and a microphone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M m h Welcome to Induction Vault, a production of
I Heart Radio and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
M hmmm. Two turntables in a microphone. That's all it
(00:33):
took to change the world, According to Eminem, during the
two thousand nine induction of Joseph Simmons, Darryl McDaniels, and
Jason Mizell, collectively known as Run d m C, Eminem
recalls growing up marveling at the group's fresh look, unique beats,
and innovative rhymes. Rundy MCS music bridge the gap of
rock in wrap, representing people who were otherwise not being
(00:56):
seen or heard. Their trend setting fashion victoria as leather
jackets and of course those white Adida sneakers, was quickly
adopted by fans of hip hop. Run DMC string of
accolades includes being the first rap group to go platinum,
the first to appear on MTB, and the first to
sell out arenas worldwide. Too, Eminem and too many teenagers
(01:19):
growing up in the eighties Run DMC where the beatles
of the rap scene. As Run DMC takes to the stage,
they share stories of the early days while acknowledging all
those who helped them along the way. These Kings of
Rock were the group that convinced the public that hip
hop was here to stay and to think all the
tip was two turntables and a microphone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(01:48):
two turntables and a microphone. That's only two to change
the world. Three kings from Queens made rap music in
the b boys stands a global phenomenon. Joseph Simmons, Darryl
McDaniels and Jason Mizelle dubbed themselves the Kings of Rock,
(02:15):
better known as Run DMC. I was only eleven years
old when I first heard their heartbeats and bold rhymes,
and there was something about man, the big drums and
the strong raps that grab hold of my ears and
(02:36):
changed my life. Something fresh, something tough, something dangerous, something beautiful,
and something unique. Two turntables and a microphone. It's like that,
(02:58):
and Sucker mcs immediately skyrocket and Run DMC to the
forefront of rap music and hip hop culture. The signature
style of Shelter Adidas, dark lead, Denham leather jackets and
black fordoors represented the look of the streets in a
way the rappers had not yet done. Before they broke
(03:20):
away from the pack by being the pack. In a
year before the first induction ceremony for the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame, Run DMC dropped the video for
King of Rock. The group set themselves up as the
(03:42):
gate crashes of popular music by forcing their way into
a museum very similar to the one that we're inducting
them into tonight, Run DMC. We're told in the video
that they didn't belong in the Rock and Roll Museum.
In twi years later, man here we are. Yeah. They
(04:05):
didn't take no for an answer, much the same way
they wouldn't give up when much of the world refused
to recognize rap as real music. They were the first
rock stars of rap. They were the first movie stars
of rap. They were the first rap group played on MTV.
They were the first rap group to go platinum. They
(04:28):
were the first rap group with their own sneaker and
the first to sell out arenas worldwide. They were the
first hip hop artists to infuse rap music with rock
and roll. They were the battest of the bad, the
(04:49):
coolest of the cool. Two turntables in the microphone Now.
When I was a kid ruling up in Detroit, I
didn't know what I wanted to be yet, and then
came Run DMC. I've never seen or heard anything like them,
but somehow I knew it was right for me. Mh.
(05:14):
They made me realize that you could write your own rules,
which is something that still inspires me as well as
every other rap artists constantly. None of us will be
here without them. Two turntables and a microphone. Yeah, I
(05:36):
remember being in ninth grade when Raisin Hell came out.
Two years later, I still remember being in ninth grade
when Tougher the Leather came out. I had skipped school
if you can believe that, to go buy Tougher the
Leather on Causette the day came out. As soon as
(05:57):
I heard Runs house Man, it was pretty much a
rap for me. Marsha Mathis became eminem. It was the
first time Run DMC had changed my life. But it wasn't.
It wouldn't be the last two turntables. If it weren't
(06:19):
for Run DMC, particularly jam Mamster J, the world wouldn't
know about a scrappy young hustler named Curtis Jackson. JA
mentored and molded Curtis into the superstar named fifty cent
J shaped the way fifty wrote, the way he rapped,
and the way he thought again. Run DMC changed my life.
(06:42):
Without them, I wouldn't have met one of my closest friends.
Run dmc is effect on popular culture cannot be overstated.
Whether you know it or not. You encounter them every
day in the music you hear on the radio, and
the sneakers you wear, in the videos you see in
the attitudes of the people you meet. Rock box, It's tricky,
(07:08):
my Adidas hard Times, Peter Piper, walk this way down
with the King Pause. The list goes on and on. Man,
all this from two turntables and a microphone. There's three
(07:29):
of them, and if you grew up on hip hop
like I did, they are the Beatles. For me personally,
to be up here inducting them is one of the
biggest honors of my career. Man, MHM, Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome run to them. See into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. After the break, we're here for
(07:54):
Red Run DMC and family members of Jam mr J
on the can Roll Hall of Fame induction vote, thank you,
Praise the Lord, everybody. The first thing I thought about
(08:15):
was so much help, so many smart people around me.
Jam Mr Jay's mother who's here, and R I p
to j M j um Mrs Mizelle, she um. She
(08:35):
let us create routines in her living room. She'd come
home from work and we'll be there with the turntables.
And she never told us turned the music down once.
She never said that we couldn't be there. We spent
the night we made the music there. I came up
with the rhymes for rock Box in jam Mr Jay's house.
And I would like to thank you, Mrs Mazelle for
(08:57):
not turning the music down. We wouldn't be here again.
The thing that goes through my mind again, what I
thought was so much help, so many smart people. Russell Simmons,
my brother who's here also. He's the guy that's the
(09:21):
big visionary that says, Joey, we could take rock music
and mix it with rap music, and we could come
up with this thing. And he always was drinking screwdrivers
and coming up with crazy ideas and smoking weed. And
I'm not saying that the weed created it, but he
was high and these are the things that would come
(09:44):
out of his mouth. So me and and and he
came up with the name run DMC. We we were
gonna be the short shot too, but the the screwdrivers
and the weed and the stuff again made him say,
I got an idea. Because every group, every rap group
was like Flashing the Furious five or Treacherous three. We
was the short shots. He said, no, he's d MC
(10:07):
and you're running. We'll call it. And this was crazy
back then, right, dude, we'll call it run DMC. And
he looked at him like he was crazy. And again,
so many smart people and and so much help, and
we thank Bill Adler, Leo Cohen, um Jay's whole family
is here. And and that's all I really wanted to
(10:29):
say was that I'm very thankful. And it was just
so many smart people and so much help that got
us here today. And we wouldn't be here if it
wasn't for people like Russell who said put we'd be somewhere,
or we wouldn't be in the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame. We we might have been getting some type
(10:51):
of award. But if it wasn't for people like Russell
who told us to put the rock with the wrap
and was hanging out in places like the Dance in
Terria and Rick Rubin in a bunch of white people
and just he knew stuff. He knew stuff. So thanks again.
And I'm gonna get the mike to d and I
thank God for my beautiful wife, so many smart people,
so much help Justine um and all my cast of
(11:14):
of Run's House, which happens to be my family is
Diggie and Russey and Vanessa and Angela and Jojo and
Miley and Jason Carbone and all of the people over
the MTV. So thank God and so many smart people
and so much help. Who what's up everybody? First of all,
(11:41):
I have to think two of the greatest people in
the world actually made it possible. Besides, if he didn't
put me in the crew, I wouldn't be here. But
there was a beginning before that union, I mean and Run.
I gotta use this time to think my mother and
(12:04):
father Byford and Banner McDaniels because it's it's It's like
I say every day when I go to speak to kids,
I tell these kids, don't let your situation to find
who you are, especially to force the kids and homeless kids,
(12:25):
because a lot of them go through life just thinking,
Oh I'm just to force the kids. Nobody loves me.
But I'm living proof as I stand before. You're not
as a celebrity or as a famous rapper, But what
I represent hire tonight is purpose and destiny. You're looking
at what can happen. You're looking at what can happen.
(12:50):
You're looking at what can happen when you take time,
when you take time out of your life and give
love to a kid. Because if my birth mother never
gave me up, my real mother would have never came
and caught me. Bife and Abandon wouldn't never came and
caught me and took me to Hollis. I would have
(13:11):
never ever met Joseph Simmons. I would have never met Russell,
wouldn't ever met Lee Or wouldn't never met Bill Adler,
wouldn't ever met Jason Manzelle. I would have never met
any of the people who was there when it's magnificent
rod of hip hop. If my birth mother didn't throw
me away, give me away, of bandon me, Fife and
the BANDA would have never came and got me, took
(13:32):
me to Hollis. There would be no Randy m c
There would be no rap music the way it is today.
But forget about all of that celebrity stuff, y'all, this
little boy, Gerald McDaniels wouldn't be his standing here to
night telling y'all that the best thing y'all can do
is give love to a kid, because that kid may
grow up and being in Rock and Roll Hall of
(13:53):
Fame one day and and but part go, but part home.
(14:14):
I just before I go, like I said, I gotta
thank Joe for putting me down. When Russell didn't think
I was a rapper, he was shrinking on screw drivers.
He knew I was a writer, but he didn't think
I was a rapper. Joe believed in me, he believed
I could be his partner. But before I go, when
I was going through the hardest period of my life,
(14:34):
four years of hell, I was in the darkest time
of my life. And what allowed me to stand here
to day in front of y'all's my wife Surry and
my son Deson because I would come home every day
not going what life was about. But when I came
out of the darkness, the reason why there was a
light of my life was because of them and all
(14:56):
of the other people in my life. I gotta thank
Eric Blamerville, and I gotta thank Tracy Miller, because they've
been with me from the beginning of this rod and
before laud just want to say this shall They asked
me what this disc pit for me? You know what
it did? It created a problem because I will see
you in twenty five years as a solo artist, because
(15:17):
I'm okee rocking and I'm gonna keep hip hop and
I love y'all. Thanks for joining us on this week's
episode of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Vault.
(15:39):
For more on your favorite inductees, to shop inductee merch
or to plan your trip to the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame, visit rock hall dot com plus Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Special on demand on
HBO Max. Our executive producers are Noel Brown, Shelby Morrison,
and Esa Gurkey. Supervising producers t Orshakoin. Research and archival
(16:02):
assistants from Isabelle Keeper and Shannon Herb. Thanks again for
joining us on this week's episode of Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame Induction Vault. Induction Ball is a production
of I Heart Radio and The Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit
(16:22):
the I Heart radio, app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you
get your favorite podcasts.
M m h Welcome to Induction Vault, a production of
I Heart Radio and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
M hmmm. Two turntables in a microphone. That's all it
(00:33):
took to change the world, According to Eminem, during the
two thousand nine induction of Joseph Simmons, Darryl McDaniels, and
Jason Mizell, collectively known as Run d m C, Eminem
recalls growing up marveling at the group's fresh look, unique beats,
and innovative rhymes. Rundy MCS music bridge the gap of
rock in wrap, representing people who were otherwise not being
(00:56):
seen or heard. Their trend setting fashion victoria as leather
jackets and of course those white Adida sneakers, was quickly
adopted by fans of hip hop. Run DMC string of
accolades includes being the first rap group to go platinum,
the first to appear on MTB, and the first to
sell out arenas worldwide. Too, Eminem and too many teenagers
(01:19):
growing up in the eighties Run DMC where the beatles
of the rap scene. As Run DMC takes to the stage,
they share stories of the early days while acknowledging all
those who helped them along the way. These Kings of
Rock were the group that convinced the public that hip
hop was here to stay and to think all the
tip was two turntables and a microphone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(01:48):
two turntables and a microphone. That's only two to change
the world. Three kings from Queens made rap music in
the b boys stands a global phenomenon. Joseph Simmons, Darryl
McDaniels and Jason Mizelle dubbed themselves the Kings of Rock,
(02:15):
better known as Run DMC. I was only eleven years
old when I first heard their heartbeats and bold rhymes,
and there was something about man, the big drums and
the strong raps that grab hold of my ears and
(02:36):
changed my life. Something fresh, something tough, something dangerous, something beautiful,
and something unique. Two turntables and a microphone. It's like that,
(02:58):
and Sucker mcs immediately skyrocket and Run DMC to the
forefront of rap music and hip hop culture. The signature
style of Shelter Adidas, dark lead, Denham leather jackets and
black fordoors represented the look of the streets in a
way the rappers had not yet done. Before they broke
(03:20):
away from the pack by being the pack. In a
year before the first induction ceremony for the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame, Run DMC dropped the video for
King of Rock. The group set themselves up as the
(03:42):
gate crashes of popular music by forcing their way into
a museum very similar to the one that we're inducting
them into tonight, Run DMC. We're told in the video
that they didn't belong in the Rock and Roll Museum.
In twi years later, man here we are. Yeah. They
(04:05):
didn't take no for an answer, much the same way
they wouldn't give up when much of the world refused
to recognize rap as real music. They were the first
rock stars of rap. They were the first movie stars
of rap. They were the first rap group played on MTV.
They were the first rap group to go platinum. They
(04:28):
were the first rap group with their own sneaker and
the first to sell out arenas worldwide. They were the
first hip hop artists to infuse rap music with rock
and roll. They were the battest of the bad, the
(04:49):
coolest of the cool. Two turntables in the microphone Now.
When I was a kid ruling up in Detroit, I
didn't know what I wanted to be yet, and then
came Run DMC. I've never seen or heard anything like them,
but somehow I knew it was right for me. Mh.
(05:14):
They made me realize that you could write your own rules,
which is something that still inspires me as well as
every other rap artists constantly. None of us will be
here without them. Two turntables and a microphone. Yeah, I
(05:36):
remember being in ninth grade when Raisin Hell came out.
Two years later, I still remember being in ninth grade
when Tougher the Leather came out. I had skipped school
if you can believe that, to go buy Tougher the
Leather on Causette the day came out. As soon as
(05:57):
I heard Runs house Man, it was pretty much a
rap for me. Marsha Mathis became eminem. It was the
first time Run DMC had changed my life. But it wasn't.
It wouldn't be the last two turntables. If it weren't
(06:19):
for Run DMC, particularly jam Mamster J, the world wouldn't
know about a scrappy young hustler named Curtis Jackson. JA
mentored and molded Curtis into the superstar named fifty cent
J shaped the way fifty wrote, the way he rapped,
and the way he thought again. Run DMC changed my life.
(06:42):
Without them, I wouldn't have met one of my closest friends.
Run dmc is effect on popular culture cannot be overstated.
Whether you know it or not. You encounter them every
day in the music you hear on the radio, and
the sneakers you wear, in the videos you see in
the attitudes of the people you meet. Rock box, It's tricky,
(07:08):
my Adidas hard Times, Peter Piper, walk this way down
with the King Pause. The list goes on and on. Man,
all this from two turntables and a microphone. There's three
(07:29):
of them, and if you grew up on hip hop
like I did, they are the Beatles. For me personally,
to be up here inducting them is one of the
biggest honors of my career. Man, MHM, Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome run to them. See into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. After the break, we're here for
(07:54):
Red Run DMC and family members of Jam mr J
on the can Roll Hall of Fame induction vote, thank you,
Praise the Lord, everybody. The first thing I thought about
(08:15):
was so much help, so many smart people around me.
Jam Mr Jay's mother who's here, and R I p
to j M j um Mrs Mizelle, she um. She
(08:35):
let us create routines in her living room. She'd come
home from work and we'll be there with the turntables.
And she never told us turned the music down once.
She never said that we couldn't be there. We spent
the night we made the music there. I came up
with the rhymes for rock Box in jam Mr Jay's house.
And I would like to thank you, Mrs Mazelle for
(08:57):
not turning the music down. We wouldn't be here again.
The thing that goes through my mind again, what I
thought was so much help, so many smart people. Russell Simmons,
my brother who's here also. He's the guy that's the
(09:21):
big visionary that says, Joey, we could take rock music
and mix it with rap music, and we could come
up with this thing. And he always was drinking screwdrivers
and coming up with crazy ideas and smoking weed. And
I'm not saying that the weed created it, but he
was high and these are the things that would come
(09:44):
out of his mouth. So me and and and he
came up with the name run DMC. We we were
gonna be the short shot too, but the the screwdrivers
and the weed and the stuff again made him say,
I got an idea. Because every group, every rap group
was like Flashing the Furious five or Treacherous three. We
was the short shots. He said, no, he's d MC
(10:07):
and you're running. We'll call it. And this was crazy
back then, right, dude, we'll call it run DMC. And
he looked at him like he was crazy. And again,
so many smart people and and so much help, and
we thank Bill Adler, Leo Cohen, um Jay's whole family
is here. And and that's all I really wanted to
(10:29):
say was that I'm very thankful. And it was just
so many smart people and so much help that got
us here today. And we wouldn't be here if it
wasn't for people like Russell who said put we'd be somewhere,
or we wouldn't be in the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame. We we might have been getting some type
(10:51):
of award. But if it wasn't for people like Russell
who told us to put the rock with the wrap
and was hanging out in places like the Dance in
Terria and Rick Rubin in a bunch of white people
and just he knew stuff. He knew stuff. So thanks again.
And I'm gonna get the mike to d and I
thank God for my beautiful wife, so many smart people,
so much help Justine um and all my cast of
(11:14):
of Run's House, which happens to be my family is
Diggie and Russey and Vanessa and Angela and Jojo and
Miley and Jason Carbone and all of the people over
the MTV. So thank God and so many smart people
and so much help. Who what's up everybody? First of all,
(11:41):
I have to think two of the greatest people in
the world actually made it possible. Besides, if he didn't
put me in the crew, I wouldn't be here. But
there was a beginning before that union, I mean and Run.
I gotta use this time to think my mother and
(12:04):
father Byford and Banner McDaniels because it's it's It's like
I say every day when I go to speak to kids,
I tell these kids, don't let your situation to find
who you are, especially to force the kids and homeless kids,
(12:25):
because a lot of them go through life just thinking,
Oh I'm just to force the kids. Nobody loves me.
But I'm living proof as I stand before. You're not
as a celebrity or as a famous rapper, But what
I represent hire tonight is purpose and destiny. You're looking
at what can happen. You're looking at what can happen.
(12:50):
You're looking at what can happen when you take time,
when you take time out of your life and give
love to a kid. Because if my birth mother never
gave me up, my real mother would have never came
and caught me. Bife and Abandon wouldn't never came and
caught me and took me to Hollis. I would have
(13:11):
never ever met Joseph Simmons. I would have never met Russell,
wouldn't ever met Lee Or wouldn't never met Bill Adler,
wouldn't ever met Jason Manzelle. I would have never met
any of the people who was there when it's magnificent
rod of hip hop. If my birth mother didn't throw
me away, give me away, of bandon me, Fife and
the BANDA would have never came and got me, took
(13:32):
me to Hollis. There would be no Randy m c
There would be no rap music the way it is today.
But forget about all of that celebrity stuff, y'all, this
little boy, Gerald McDaniels wouldn't be his standing here to
night telling y'all that the best thing y'all can do
is give love to a kid, because that kid may
grow up and being in Rock and Roll Hall of
(13:53):
Fame one day and and but part go, but part home.
(14:14):
I just before I go, like I said, I gotta
thank Joe for putting me down. When Russell didn't think
I was a rapper, he was shrinking on screw drivers.
He knew I was a writer, but he didn't think
I was a rapper. Joe believed in me, he believed
I could be his partner. But before I go, when
I was going through the hardest period of my life,
(14:34):
four years of hell, I was in the darkest time
of my life. And what allowed me to stand here
to day in front of y'all's my wife Surry and
my son Deson because I would come home every day
not going what life was about. But when I came
out of the darkness, the reason why there was a
light of my life was because of them and all
(14:56):
of the other people in my life. I gotta thank
Eric Blamerville, and I gotta thank Tracy Miller, because they've
been with me from the beginning of this rod and
before laud just want to say this shall They asked
me what this disc pit for me? You know what
it did? It created a problem because I will see
you in twenty five years as a solo artist, because
(15:17):
I'm okee rocking and I'm gonna keep hip hop and
I love y'all. Thanks for joining us on this week's
episode of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Vault.
(15:39):
For more on your favorite inductees, to shop inductee merch
or to plan your trip to the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame, visit rock hall dot com plus Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Special on demand on
HBO Max. Our executive producers are Noel Brown, Shelby Morrison,
and Esa Gurkey. Supervising producers t Orshakoin. Research and archival
(16:02):
assistants from Isabelle Keeper and Shannon Herb. Thanks again for
joining us on this week's episode of Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame Induction Vault. Induction Ball is a production
of I Heart Radio and The Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit
(16:22):
the I Heart radio, app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you
get your favorite podcasts.
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