November 6, 2020 • 22 mins
As the first woman to be inducted twice, Stevie Nicks comes to the induction stage grateful and honored to be holding that title. Pop music force Harry Styles shares poetic stories of his own fandom, honoring the “true Stevie” we all have come to know and love.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Induction Vault, a production of I Heart Radio
and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Hey, Brooklyn,
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony is
about to begin. It's time to take your seats, you
to Cleveland. Each year, rock's highest honor, induction into the
(00:27):
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, is bestowed upon a
handful of artists, cementing their legacy for eternity. That night,
they are celebrated by their peers and the contemporary artists
they've influenced. All share a mutual admiration for these legends
who have dedicated their lives to rock and roll. This
was on full display when Harry Styles inducted Stevie Nicks.
(00:49):
Style's own force and music is strong, and here he
stands before us as a fan, sharing the same sentiment
as so many. How Stevie can compel you to feel
so many emotion and all at once through her words,
her voice, and her true self feel their connection and chemistry.
As Stevie steps forward to show her gratitude and acknowledge
(01:10):
what it means to be the first woman inducted into
the Hall of Fame twice. Here's Stevie's honest, unabashed story
about how she saw exactly what she wanted for herself,
went for it and captivated us all. And now to
induct Stevie into the Hall of Fame, Harry Styles, we
(01:36):
get kid Hello. Just like the White Winged Dove sings
a song, sounds like she's singing. Stevie Nicks is the
first female artist to be inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame for a second time. The first
(02:05):
female artist to be inducted into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame for a second time, first with Fleetwood
Matt and now for unforgettable solo work with Stevie. You're
not celebrating music from long ago, through the mists of time.
She was standing on stage, headlining a place this size,
(02:27):
doing her best work just three nights ago. She is
forever current, She is forever Stevie. But what exactly does
that mean? In my family? We listened at home, we
listened in the car, we listened wherever we could. Dreams
(02:48):
was the first song that I know all the words too,
before I really know what the words meant. I thought
it was a song about the weather, but I knew
that it was a beautiful song about the weather. I
always knew the words and I loved them all. Thunder
only happens when it's raining. Players only love you when
they're playing. She's so wise and serene. She sees all
(03:12):
the romance and drama in the world and she celebrates it.
She will stand on stage introducing her songs, telling you
how she wrote them honestly, like you're the only other
person in the world. You're more than a fan. You
are her friend, and her words say in so many ways,
I understand you, and you are not alone, and that
(03:33):
is true. Stevie. She walked a path trade by Janice
Joplin and Joni Mitchell, visionary women who had to throw
a couple of elbows to create their own space. Her
early band Fritz, opened for Jimmy Hendrix and they held
their own. She was far ahead of her time, creating
her own sound. It was bright, it was fresh, and
(03:55):
it was magical. Next, she formed a duo with Fritz's
bass this Lindsey Buckingham Buckingham Knicks. Then on New Year's
Eve seventy four, Mick Fleetwood invited Lindsey Buckingham and herself
to join Fleetwood, Mac and everybody's lives became brilliant and
(04:15):
a lot crazier. Stevie Nicks stepped onto the world stage
with Unforgettable Ease I Remember it well. She began creating
stories that flowed from her heart to her pen, which
ended up in our souls, with characters that we would
always remember classic songs like Silver Springs, Rhiannon, Gypsy, and Sarah.
(04:42):
In the eighties, she released Belladonna, the rare first solo
album that was as powerful as the supergroup that she
was still in. With Stop Dragging My Heart Around, she
and Tom Petty took things to another level. Then she
did it again with albums with Like the Wild Heart
and Rock a Little Whether on her own in a
(05:05):
duet with her band. It's probable that at some point
she found herself in a barbershop quartet. Stevie could do
it all, and that is true. Stevie. You can't take
your eyes off her. As we've seen tonight, she is
the magical gypsy godmother who occupies the in between. It's
(05:26):
a space that can and will only ever be hers.
She's a lot like a rock and roll Nina Simone,
finding the notes that only she can and by being
so unapologetically herself, she gives others permission to do the same,
and that is true, Stevie. Yeah, and if you're lucky
(05:55):
enough to know her, she's always there for you. She
knows what you need, advice, ice, a little wisdom, a
blouse or shawl, She's got you covered. Her songs make
you ache, feel on top of the world, make you
want to dance, and usually all three at the same time.
She is responsible for more running mascara, including my own,
(06:16):
than all the bad dates in history combined. And that
is true, Stevie. There are a few people who hold
the states like her. I was lucky enough to play
with her at the Troubador a few years ago, and
all I could do is watch the show is no
longer yours is hers, and you take a knee as
(06:38):
she takes it from you. And that is true, Stevie.
She has many, many solo hits. If anyone falls edge
of seventeen talked to me. But there are so many
gems hidden, gems hidden within the album. There are so
many gems hidden within the albums. Songs like Belle Flour
(07:02):
and Garbo, Annabelle Lee and who My Love? However you
feel or want to feel, there is a Stevie Nicks
song that will meet you there. Each song is a dance,
it's an emotional ballet. It's a letter to a lover
or a friend. And every single year she gathers more momentum.
Somewhere around two thousand and five, two thousand and six,
(07:24):
this woman became god. I think we can all agree
on that. On Halloween, one in seven people dressed as
Stevie Knicks. She is both an adjective and a verb.
To quote my father, that was rather Stevie Nicks. And
(07:44):
to quote my mother, I Stevie Nicks that ship so hard.
Mick Fleetwood calls her the fearless leader. She is Mamma
Lion to her friends. She's the family member that you
can always count on. I hope she knows what she
means to us, what she means to yet another generation
(08:08):
of artists who looked to her for inspiration and trailblazing courage.
That is true, Stevie. She is so much more than
a role model. She is a beacon to all of us.
Whenever you hear her voice, life gets just a little
bit better when she sings. The world is hers, and
(08:31):
it is yours. She is everything you have ever wanted
in a lady, in a lover, and in a friend.
Stephanie Knicks, I love you, We all do, and that
is true, Stevie. Ladies and gentlemen, has been an honor
(08:53):
to be with you all there tonight. Thank you so much.
Please join me and welcoming to the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame for the second time. I'm Stevie Nicks.
After the break, we'll be back with Stevie Knicks accepting
speech on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction vault.
(09:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Stevie Nicks. Thank you. What
I want would like to say is that this is
this speech thing that I'm supposed to give now has
been has been following me down until the sound of
(09:39):
its voice will haunt me for the last two weeks.
It's not hard for me to go and play for you,
but it's very hard for me to try to tell
you how how I thank you for for this, for
this being the first girl in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame twice. Sometimes I just can tell great
(10:07):
stories because it's like it's easy if I if I'm
telling a story about prince. I can say he picked
me up in his purple Camaro and we went out
to his purple house and a suburb outside of Minneapolis,
and nobody knows where I was. And we wrote a
song and he called it They'll take her. It will
take you days to find her. And I can actually
tell you a great story about that, because it is
what it is. But for me to tell you a
(10:27):
story from my heart about what this means to me
is very hard because this has never happened to me before.
And I'm hoping that since it's never happened to me
and now only once twenty two men in for zero
women and now one woman, that what I am doing
is opening up the door for other women to go like,
(10:51):
hey man, I can do it. And I'm telling all
my friends, I like the girls in home. I'm going, Okay,
you guys, you've got to really get it together now.
And like one, he needs to step away and don't
break up your band. Just do an album so you
have it, because it's gonna take twenty years before you
will be recognized as again, so you'll already be like sixty,
so you have to do it right now. So it's
like this is the problem of getting in I was.
(11:15):
I started Belladonna in nineteen really thinking about it in
nineteen seventy nine, so I'd only been a fleet with
math for not quite four years, really only like maybe
more like three and a half years. And so this
is a hard thing to do because you have to.
It's the times are different, and it's like, I don't
it's gonna be hard, but I know there's somebody out
(11:35):
there that we'll be able to do it because I'm
gonna give you all the directions and I'll do enough
interviews that say exactly what to do. And I want
to tell you that everybody in my life gave me
ideas of what I could say to you, like this
is from and I have to just say this because
I don't have my glasses line and Kenner and read it.
But I've read it so many times in the middle
(11:57):
of the night, crying, going like I don't have a
ship idea what I'm gonna stay up there? And this
morning at four thirty, my assistant came in and I'm
laying there and my little Chinese crest it is like
laying she lays running my stomach and she's looking at
me like it's so late, and I said, and she goes, sucker,
You've done, and I'm going no, I can't do it.
(12:17):
I have to go to bed. I don't know what
I'm gonna say. I'm just enough to go out there
and go, like, you know what, six minutes is not
very long, so let me move right on and six
minutes for me, I've majored in speech communication that Santosey
stayed and psychology five years five And the second I
(12:38):
called my mom and said, I have to put because
me a Lindsay have to move to l A because
the music is in San Francisco, but the record deals
are in l and we have to go tomorrow. And
my mom said, okay, that's fine, but we will be
withdrawing all financial support as of this minute. And I said,
flat out, I know, Mom, I know, and I'm up
to the challenge. Three waitress jobs to clean lady jobs.
(13:01):
It was cool. Lindsey worked on the music. I worked
on food and dirty houses, and I rather enjoyed it
because I could get out of the house and go
into the real world instead of just being in the
cave with all the guys who were just laying around
smoking pot and messing up my house. So it's like,
(13:23):
I go, excuse me, excuse me. Can I just step
over your feet and your pot and everything so I
can straighten this place up. And I don't get paid
for doing this at my own house, but I will
do it for you because I know you guys work hard.
So that such a little bit of a moment of
how we got before Fleetwood Mac. Okay, So I don't
want to tell you that this solo album thing. I
(13:44):
started thinking about this and I only know this because
my friend Paul Fishkin in nineteen seventy six, who then
became my boyfriend. After we went to this convention at
the Acapulco Princess, which I like to call the Tequila
Convention because the first night, everybody had the little necklaces.
You one of you here may have been there, the
little necklaces across around your your neck, and they come
(14:05):
and they fill it with tequila, and who's gonna waste tequila?
So it's like, so everybody was so drunk that nobody's
surfaced for three solid days and then it was over.
So everybody just went to the airport and left, but
not me. I stayed. I stayed because I'm going like,
I'm already down here. Somebody else paid for it, so
I'm gonna enjoy this vacation, so Paul and me. I
said to him after playing Rumors, which was not even
(14:27):
finished but still really cool the night before. I didn't
ever hear it because I passed out as soon as
I pushed play, but some people must have heard it
because they spoke about it later. Um So I said, no, no,
it's new songs, it's other songs, it's you know, more demos,
and he goes like, okay. So we go on the
beach and I played probably fifteen or twenty songs and
he goes, wow, that's a lot of songs. Okay, and
(14:50):
he's a record man, right. So we go back to
l A and New York. We start going out and
I find out because Paul tells me that, and a
year later when I said to him, am, do you
think there's any way that I could do a discreet
solo album? They would not break up, we would now
(15:12):
like and I'm going like it's a secret, and he's
he's like, I think, So, I think if you're kind
and loving and you tell them that you will always
put them first. And they will always be at the
top of your priority list. They will understand and they
will stay. Go do what you want to do and
(15:34):
have fun. We'll see in a year and a half.
So that's what we eventually did. And yes, my amazing
band is still together and very strong today. So last
but not least, which probably won't be last but not least,
(15:55):
they can't get me off this stage now that I'm
on it. I want to thank first of all, very quickly,
Paul Fishkin, because he is was the wise man who
said you can do both, and you can you can
have both. You just have to do it with love,
that's all. Then I was introduced to his partner, Danny Goldberg,
who became Paul's in my our guru and our our
(16:16):
our calm coach who kept us calm. I was gone
all the time, so they were like talking about this
and trying to put it together calmly and serenely. And
so I'm I'm off in the world doing rumors and
tusk and they're working behind the scenes to see if
they can make this happen. And then it happened. We
formed a record deal, I mean a record company called Modern.
(16:38):
We went to Mr Doug Morris at Atlantic my hero,
and I said, so, Doug, and this is me, So, Doug,
what I want to do is I want to make
a Tom Petty album, straight up rock and roll. And
I have two great girl singers, Lori and Sharon that
are amazing, and we're gonna be Crosby Steals in Nash.
(16:59):
I'm gonna be still Us and they're gonna be Nash
and Crosby. So we're gonna be straight up rock and roll,
but we're gonna sound like Crosby, Sulls and Nash and
Dougs like fan fucking tasting. I'm sorry, I didn't mean
to swear. But so then I said, so who So
who produced? Who produces Tom Petty? He goes Jimmy Ivine
(17:22):
And I'm going like, so, can you send me up
with Jimmy Ivan And he goes, yeah, I can. So
he says I'll give him a call. So we called
Jimmy and he sets us up to go and have dinner.
So we go and have dinner, and I telled him
the same thing, Tom Petty, straight up rock album, but
we want to sound like Crosby, Susan Nash, and he
goes like Okay, I can do it. I haven't done
a girl album in a while, so we go, okay, good.
(17:44):
We both went back to l A because he was
there working on Tom's finishing Thomas record, So we get
there ten days later. I moved in with Jimmy. It's
just how it was. So I moved in with Jimmy.
I learned to make tiny pizza uh tiny pizzas, and
waited for him to finish the album Tom's album. Meanwhile,
(18:06):
me and Lorian Sharon are practicing all our three part harmonies,
which Jimmy and nobody else really wanted to hear. So
we were gonna be damned if we weren't going to
be on that album, being Crosby, Sills and Nash. So
we got so good during that next six weeks that
when he was done and we started Belladonna, we were ready.
(18:28):
So we walked in and we made an album in
three months, which is unheard of, especially in those days.
We were focused, we were we were together, we were organized,
and we made a great album. And then Jimmy came
to me and said, we have a problem's TV. We
made a great album, but you don't have a single.
And I'm like, seriously, we don't have a single, and
(18:48):
you didn't tell me until now, and he goes, well,
I thought it would work out. I thought one would
come to my head and it didn't. And so but
I have a plan. Tom Petty says, you can have
stopped dragging my heart around. It's already recorded. He'll sing
it with you. And problem solved. And I finally got
to meet Tom Petty, who Jimmy had kept me a
(19:17):
secret from because he didn't want Tom to get piste
off and think that his like his his his attention
was going to be taken away because he had a
new girlfriend. So I like him in the basement. It
was fine. I got to hear everything and eve Drop
all through it. So anyway, Jimmy, Doug, Paul Danny also
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Irving as off because I had to hire him in
nine because my mother said you better get some help
here because you don't have anybody taking care of your money.
So I hired Irving, who gladly said sure, I'll do it,
not having any idea that he would still be sitting
here tonight going like sure, I'll do it. My press agent,
(19:59):
Liz Rose and who I met in nineteen seventy six,
who is still present press agenting for me, and she's
the best. She's the ronabarative today and I adore her
and she's elegant and incredible. So talk to her if
you can. She'll get you in a newspaper. And then
there was Howard Kaufman who passed away a little while ago,
who then became my manager when Irving had to go
(20:20):
become the president of a record company. And that was
okay because we all have to branch out and let's see.
And Cheryl, who went Howard passed away, then took on
the mantle of being my manager, which is no easy
thing because I don't agree with anything anybody said, especially
when it's a girl. But thank you Cheryl for giving it.
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You're all anyway, you have been a fantastic, fantastic audience.
And I want to tell you if you ever need
a keynote speaker, somebody to chalk to, someone to talk
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to a group of people, I am your girl. I
love you more than you'll ever know. Thank you so
much for banks. Thanks for joining us on this week's
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Welcome to Induction Vault, a production of I Heart Radio
and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Hey, Brooklyn,
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony is
about to begin. It's time to take your seats, you
to Cleveland. Each year, rock's highest honor, induction into the
(00:27):
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, is bestowed upon a
handful of artists, cementing their legacy for eternity. That night,
they are celebrated by their peers and the contemporary artists
they've influenced. All share a mutual admiration for these legends
who have dedicated their lives to rock and roll. This
was on full display when Harry Styles inducted Stevie Nicks.
(00:49):
Style's own force and music is strong, and here he
stands before us as a fan, sharing the same sentiment
as so many. How Stevie can compel you to feel
so many emotion and all at once through her words,
her voice, and her true self feel their connection and chemistry.
As Stevie steps forward to show her gratitude and acknowledge
(01:10):
what it means to be the first woman inducted into
the Hall of Fame twice. Here's Stevie's honest, unabashed story
about how she saw exactly what she wanted for herself,
went for it and captivated us all. And now to
induct Stevie into the Hall of Fame, Harry Styles, we
(01:36):
get kid Hello. Just like the White Winged Dove sings
a song, sounds like she's singing. Stevie Nicks is the
first female artist to be inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame for a second time. The first
(02:05):
female artist to be inducted into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame for a second time, first with Fleetwood
Matt and now for unforgettable solo work with Stevie. You're
not celebrating music from long ago, through the mists of time.
She was standing on stage, headlining a place this size,
(02:27):
doing her best work just three nights ago. She is
forever current, She is forever Stevie. But what exactly does
that mean? In my family? We listened at home, we
listened in the car, we listened wherever we could. Dreams
(02:48):
was the first song that I know all the words too,
before I really know what the words meant. I thought
it was a song about the weather, but I knew
that it was a beautiful song about the weather. I
always knew the words and I loved them all. Thunder
only happens when it's raining. Players only love you when
they're playing. She's so wise and serene. She sees all
(03:12):
the romance and drama in the world and she celebrates it.
She will stand on stage introducing her songs, telling you
how she wrote them honestly, like you're the only other
person in the world. You're more than a fan. You
are her friend, and her words say in so many ways,
I understand you, and you are not alone, and that
(03:33):
is true. Stevie. She walked a path trade by Janice
Joplin and Joni Mitchell, visionary women who had to throw
a couple of elbows to create their own space. Her
early band Fritz, opened for Jimmy Hendrix and they held
their own. She was far ahead of her time, creating
her own sound. It was bright, it was fresh, and
(03:55):
it was magical. Next, she formed a duo with Fritz's
bass this Lindsey Buckingham Buckingham Knicks. Then on New Year's
Eve seventy four, Mick Fleetwood invited Lindsey Buckingham and herself
to join Fleetwood, Mac and everybody's lives became brilliant and
(04:15):
a lot crazier. Stevie Nicks stepped onto the world stage
with Unforgettable Ease I Remember it well. She began creating
stories that flowed from her heart to her pen, which
ended up in our souls, with characters that we would
always remember classic songs like Silver Springs, Rhiannon, Gypsy, and Sarah.
(04:42):
In the eighties, she released Belladonna, the rare first solo
album that was as powerful as the supergroup that she
was still in. With Stop Dragging My Heart Around, she
and Tom Petty took things to another level. Then she
did it again with albums with Like the Wild Heart
and Rock a Little Whether on her own in a
(05:05):
duet with her band. It's probable that at some point
she found herself in a barbershop quartet. Stevie could do
it all, and that is true. Stevie. You can't take
your eyes off her. As we've seen tonight, she is
the magical gypsy godmother who occupies the in between. It's
(05:26):
a space that can and will only ever be hers.
She's a lot like a rock and roll Nina Simone,
finding the notes that only she can and by being
so unapologetically herself, she gives others permission to do the same,
and that is true, Stevie. Yeah, and if you're lucky
(05:55):
enough to know her, she's always there for you. She
knows what you need, advice, ice, a little wisdom, a
blouse or shawl, She's got you covered. Her songs make
you ache, feel on top of the world, make you
want to dance, and usually all three at the same time.
She is responsible for more running mascara, including my own,
(06:16):
than all the bad dates in history combined. And that
is true, Stevie. There are a few people who hold
the states like her. I was lucky enough to play
with her at the Troubador a few years ago, and
all I could do is watch the show is no
longer yours is hers, and you take a knee as
(06:38):
she takes it from you. And that is true, Stevie.
She has many, many solo hits. If anyone falls edge
of seventeen talked to me. But there are so many
gems hidden, gems hidden within the album. There are so
many gems hidden within the albums. Songs like Belle Flour
(07:02):
and Garbo, Annabelle Lee and who My Love? However you
feel or want to feel, there is a Stevie Nicks
song that will meet you there. Each song is a dance,
it's an emotional ballet. It's a letter to a lover
or a friend. And every single year she gathers more momentum.
Somewhere around two thousand and five, two thousand and six,
(07:24):
this woman became god. I think we can all agree
on that. On Halloween, one in seven people dressed as
Stevie Knicks. She is both an adjective and a verb.
To quote my father, that was rather Stevie Nicks. And
(07:44):
to quote my mother, I Stevie Nicks that ship so hard.
Mick Fleetwood calls her the fearless leader. She is Mamma
Lion to her friends. She's the family member that you
can always count on. I hope she knows what she
means to us, what she means to yet another generation
(08:08):
of artists who looked to her for inspiration and trailblazing courage.
That is true, Stevie. She is so much more than
a role model. She is a beacon to all of us.
Whenever you hear her voice, life gets just a little
bit better when she sings. The world is hers, and
(08:31):
it is yours. She is everything you have ever wanted
in a lady, in a lover, and in a friend.
Stephanie Knicks, I love you, We all do, and that
is true, Stevie. Ladies and gentlemen, has been an honor
(08:53):
to be with you all there tonight. Thank you so much.
Please join me and welcoming to the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame for the second time. I'm Stevie Nicks.
After the break, we'll be back with Stevie Knicks accepting
speech on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction vault.
(09:17):
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Stevie Nicks. Thank you. What
I want would like to say is that this is
this speech thing that I'm supposed to give now has
been has been following me down until the sound of
(09:39):
its voice will haunt me for the last two weeks.
It's not hard for me to go and play for you,
but it's very hard for me to try to tell
you how how I thank you for for this, for
this being the first girl in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame twice. Sometimes I just can tell great
(10:07):
stories because it's like it's easy if I if I'm
telling a story about prince. I can say he picked
me up in his purple Camaro and we went out
to his purple house and a suburb outside of Minneapolis,
and nobody knows where I was. And we wrote a
song and he called it They'll take her. It will
take you days to find her. And I can actually
tell you a great story about that, because it is
what it is. But for me to tell you a
(10:27):
story from my heart about what this means to me
is very hard because this has never happened to me before.
And I'm hoping that since it's never happened to me
and now only once twenty two men in for zero
women and now one woman, that what I am doing
is opening up the door for other women to go like,
(10:51):
hey man, I can do it. And I'm telling all
my friends, I like the girls in home. I'm going, Okay,
you guys, you've got to really get it together now.
And like one, he needs to step away and don't
break up your band. Just do an album so you
have it, because it's gonna take twenty years before you
will be recognized as again, so you'll already be like sixty,
so you have to do it right now. So it's
like this is the problem of getting in I was.
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I started Belladonna in nineteen really thinking about it in
nineteen seventy nine, so I'd only been a fleet with
math for not quite four years, really only like maybe
more like three and a half years. And so this
is a hard thing to do because you have to.
It's the times are different, and it's like, I don't
it's gonna be hard, but I know there's somebody out
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there that we'll be able to do it because I'm
gonna give you all the directions and I'll do enough
interviews that say exactly what to do. And I want
to tell you that everybody in my life gave me
ideas of what I could say to you, like this
is from and I have to just say this because
I don't have my glasses line and Kenner and read it.
But I've read it so many times in the middle
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of the night, crying, going like I don't have a
ship idea what I'm gonna stay up there? And this
morning at four thirty, my assistant came in and I'm
laying there and my little Chinese crest it is like
laying she lays running my stomach and she's looking at
me like it's so late, and I said, and she goes, sucker,
You've done, and I'm going no, I can't do it.
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I have to go to bed. I don't know what
I'm gonna say. I'm just enough to go out there
and go, like, you know what, six minutes is not
very long, so let me move right on and six
minutes for me, I've majored in speech communication that Santosey
stayed and psychology five years five And the second I
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called my mom and said, I have to put because
me a Lindsay have to move to l A because
the music is in San Francisco, but the record deals
are in l and we have to go tomorrow. And
my mom said, okay, that's fine, but we will be
withdrawing all financial support as of this minute. And I said,
flat out, I know, Mom, I know, and I'm up
to the challenge. Three waitress jobs to clean lady jobs.
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It was cool. Lindsey worked on the music. I worked
on food and dirty houses, and I rather enjoyed it
because I could get out of the house and go
into the real world instead of just being in the
cave with all the guys who were just laying around
smoking pot and messing up my house. So it's like,
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I go, excuse me, excuse me. Can I just step
over your feet and your pot and everything so I
can straighten this place up. And I don't get paid
for doing this at my own house, but I will
do it for you because I know you guys work hard.
So that such a little bit of a moment of
how we got before Fleetwood Mac. Okay, So I don't
want to tell you that this solo album thing. I
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started thinking about this and I only know this because
my friend Paul Fishkin in nineteen seventy six, who then
became my boyfriend. After we went to this convention at
the Acapulco Princess, which I like to call the Tequila
Convention because the first night, everybody had the little necklaces.
You one of you here may have been there, the
little necklaces across around your your neck, and they come
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and they fill it with tequila, and who's gonna waste tequila?
So it's like, so everybody was so drunk that nobody's
surfaced for three solid days and then it was over.
So everybody just went to the airport and left, but
not me. I stayed. I stayed because I'm going like,
I'm already down here. Somebody else paid for it, so
I'm gonna enjoy this vacation, so Paul and me. I
said to him after playing Rumors, which was not even
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finished but still really cool the night before. I didn't
ever hear it because I passed out as soon as
I pushed play, but some people must have heard it
because they spoke about it later. Um So I said, no, no,
it's new songs, it's other songs, it's you know, more demos,
and he goes like, okay. So we go on the
beach and I played probably fifteen or twenty songs and
he goes, wow, that's a lot of songs. Okay, and
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he's a record man, right. So we go back to
l A and New York. We start going out and
I find out because Paul tells me that, and a
year later when I said to him, am, do you
think there's any way that I could do a discreet
solo album? They would not break up, we would now
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like and I'm going like it's a secret, and he's
he's like, I think, So, I think if you're kind
and loving and you tell them that you will always
put them first. And they will always be at the
top of your priority list. They will understand and they
will stay. Go do what you want to do and
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have fun. We'll see in a year and a half.
So that's what we eventually did. And yes, my amazing
band is still together and very strong today. So last
but not least, which probably won't be last but not least,
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they can't get me off this stage now that I'm
on it. I want to thank first of all, very quickly,
Paul Fishkin, because he is was the wise man who
said you can do both, and you can you can
have both. You just have to do it with love,
that's all. Then I was introduced to his partner, Danny Goldberg,
who became Paul's in my our guru and our our
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our calm coach who kept us calm. I was gone
all the time, so they were like talking about this
and trying to put it together calmly and serenely. And
so I'm I'm off in the world doing rumors and
tusk and they're working behind the scenes to see if
they can make this happen. And then it happened. We
formed a record deal, I mean a record company called Modern.
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We went to Mr Doug Morris at Atlantic my hero,
and I said, so, Doug, and this is me, So, Doug,
what I want to do is I want to make
a Tom Petty album, straight up rock and roll. And
I have two great girl singers, Lori and Sharon that
are amazing, and we're gonna be Crosby Steals in Nash.
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I'm gonna be still Us and they're gonna be Nash
and Crosby. So we're gonna be straight up rock and roll,
but we're gonna sound like Crosby, Sulls and Nash and
Dougs like fan fucking tasting. I'm sorry, I didn't mean
to swear. But so then I said, so who So
who produced? Who produces Tom Petty? He goes Jimmy Ivine
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And I'm going like, so, can you send me up
with Jimmy Ivan And he goes, yeah, I can. So
he says I'll give him a call. So we called
Jimmy and he sets us up to go and have dinner.
So we go and have dinner, and I telled him
the same thing, Tom Petty, straight up rock album, but
we want to sound like Crosby, Susan Nash, and he
goes like Okay, I can do it. I haven't done
a girl album in a while, so we go, okay, good.
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We both went back to l A because he was
there working on Tom's finishing Thomas record, So we get
there ten days later. I moved in with Jimmy. It's
just how it was. So I moved in with Jimmy.
I learned to make tiny pizza uh tiny pizzas, and
waited for him to finish the album Tom's album. Meanwhile,
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me and Lorian Sharon are practicing all our three part harmonies,
which Jimmy and nobody else really wanted to hear. So
we were gonna be damned if we weren't going to
be on that album, being Crosby, Sills and Nash. So
we got so good during that next six weeks that
when he was done and we started Belladonna, we were ready.
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So we walked in and we made an album in
three months, which is unheard of, especially in those days.
We were focused, we were we were together, we were organized,
and we made a great album. And then Jimmy came
to me and said, we have a problem's TV. We
made a great album, but you don't have a single.
And I'm like, seriously, we don't have a single, and
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you didn't tell me until now, and he goes, well,
I thought it would work out. I thought one would
come to my head and it didn't. And so but
I have a plan. Tom Petty says, you can have
stopped dragging my heart around. It's already recorded. He'll sing
it with you. And problem solved. And I finally got
to meet Tom Petty, who Jimmy had kept me a
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secret from because he didn't want Tom to get piste
off and think that his like his his his attention
was going to be taken away because he had a
new girlfriend. So I like him in the basement. It
was fine. I got to hear everything and eve Drop
all through it. So anyway, Jimmy, Doug, Paul Danny also
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Irving as off because I had to hire him in
nine because my mother said you better get some help
here because you don't have anybody taking care of your money.
So I hired Irving, who gladly said sure, I'll do it,
not having any idea that he would still be sitting
here tonight going like sure, I'll do it. My press agent,
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Liz Rose and who I met in nineteen seventy six,
who is still present press agenting for me, and she's
the best. She's the ronabarative today and I adore her
and she's elegant and incredible. So talk to her if
you can. She'll get you in a newspaper. And then
there was Howard Kaufman who passed away a little while ago,
who then became my manager when Irving had to go
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become the president of a record company. And that was
okay because we all have to branch out and let's see.
And Cheryl, who went Howard passed away, then took on
the mantle of being my manager, which is no easy
thing because I don't agree with anything anybody said, especially
when it's a girl. But thank you Cheryl for giving it.
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You're all anyway, you have been a fantastic, fantastic audience.
And I want to tell you if you ever need
a keynote speaker, somebody to chalk to, someone to talk
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to a group of people, I am your girl. I
love you more than you'll ever know. Thank you so
much for banks. Thanks for joining us on this week's
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