Harris' Economic Tour, Pizza Hut Driver Sued for Racial Slur, ABC's Kim Godwin Resigns

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It's Monday, May sixth, twenty twenty four.

Speaker 10 (01:26):
I'm doctor O Macongo de beinga sitting in for Roland
who's on his way back from Detroit. He was traveling
and Vice President Kamala Harris as she continued her Economic
Opportunity Tour. Will have complete coverage of what happened there.
But here's what's coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered streaming
live on the Black Star Network. A black Mississippi man
is suing Pizza Hut because he says the white delivery

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driver called him a racial slur. We'll talk to Carlos More,
who filed a lawsuit. The white Ole miss student who
mocked a black woman during a pro Palestinian protest is
under investigation and gets kicked out of his fraternity. A
New York judge threatens Donald Trump with jail for another
gag order violation, and ABC's Kim Godwin steps down.

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Vice President Kamala Harris is on her way back from Detroit.
She was in the motor City as part of her
Economic Opportunity Tour, the Biden campaign's effort to strengthen the
economy for Black Americans. Roland traveled with the Vice President
and will join us in the next hour to highlight
today's event. But first, a Mississippi man says he got

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more than a pizza from his Oxford Pizza Hut delivery driver.
On June twenty fifth, twenty twenty three, Jimrius Archie opened
his door to receive his order when the white driver
called him a racial slur.

Speaker 9 (03:48):
Take a listen, it's a.

Speaker 14 (04:03):
Go appreciate you and let me just grab the signature
if you don't.

Speaker 9 (04:06):
Want in case, in case you missed it, we will
play it again.

Speaker 15 (04:26):
It's a hood, hey you doing.

Speaker 14 (04:31):
Go appreciate you and let me just grab the signature
if you don't want.

Speaker 10 (04:34):
The joining me from Jackson, Mississippi is attorney Carlos More.

Speaker 9 (04:43):
Mister Moore, thank you so much for being here tonight.

Speaker 10 (04:47):
I just got to start with what in the world
I almost wanted to play it a third time? Can
you please tell us and help us process what we
just saw.

Speaker 9 (04:55):
Was that real?

Speaker 8 (04:57):
It was real?

Speaker 15 (04:58):
Man like you.

Speaker 16 (04:59):
I could not believe my years. I mean, this happened
in twenty twenty three in Oxford, Mississippi. This young African
American man ordered a piece in a nice neighborhood and
it was just a normal day and he never could
have expected to be called the N word just for
ordering the pizza.

Speaker 10 (05:14):
And what was you know, we read the statement that
you posted, but you know, knowing the client, what was
his reaction after the fact, because it seems like such
a natural transaction, but it just seems like kind of
after the fact, it seems like whoa wait a minute,
what just happened?

Speaker 9 (05:31):
Like how did he process what he experienced?

Speaker 16 (05:34):
Yes, it was very difficult a process. He's undergoing counselor
now for what he endured. But it caught him off guard.
I mean most people, had they had any kind of
fore warning, knew exactly what he said when he said it,
and processed it immediately, they probably would have stolen the
piece of driver. But I mean, he was so shocked
he ran to his video surveillance to run it back.

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He had to run it back again to make sure
he had heard what he heard. He showed it to
his wife and they agreed there was nothing wrong with
his ears. He had been called inWORD.

Speaker 10 (06:03):
Yeah, I had to double check my ears a couple
of times as well. And has there been a response
for I want to bring my panel in shortly? But
has there been a response from pizza Huud about how
they're looking at handling this situation to date, since this
happened last summer.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
Evidently Piece Ofhood has ratified this comment.

Speaker 16 (06:20):
The man is still a delivery drive in Oxtion, Mississippi,
and he is still free to roam the streets and
deliver pieces and coll people the in word at will,
and so this is very disappointing.

Speaker 10 (06:30):
Still, Wow, that was not something I was expecting to hear.
I have so many other questions, but I want to
bring in my panel to share some of their thoughts
on this as well. I'm going to bring in doctor
Julian Malveaux, economists and author out of Washington, DC, as
well as Gavin Reynolds, contributor to the Root and former
speech writer to Vice President Kamala Harris. Doctor Malveaux, I

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want to turn the first question over to you.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Ooh, I did they even know what to say? You know,
my mom was a one or two Ole miss hired
two African Americans in nineteen seventy four, and my mom
was one of the two in the school of social work.
And I had occasion to visit Oxford where the racism
is just it's casual. I mean, while that is egregious,

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it's not unexpected. One of my Oxford stories, I went
to see my mom. I flew in the little took
the Putt Putt from Memphis to Oxford, and the driver
would not take me. This was nineteen seventy five because
I had a dye shiki on and he called me
in and da da da da da da. And I
called my mom, said, Mommy, the guy will not give

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me a ride. She said, I'll send somebody to get you.
S She said, what do you have on? I said, shiki?
What do I wear every day? And she said I
should have told you to put a T shirt on.
She said, the racism here is crazy. So apparently a
lot has not changed. The casual use of the inward
is Mississippi, you know on Congam doing this research on

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lynching and Mississippi had I looked a number one and
number two and a number of bitches. But I want
to ask, brother attorney, this seems so casual. What are
you actually suing for dollar wise? And what kind of
statue will protect your client?

Speaker 8 (08:21):
We did not name a monetary amount.

Speaker 16 (08:23):
My client continues to treat and we just want a justice,
and so we believe that a reasonable jury will come
up with an amount should we get to trial. And
it's just so outrageous, and he did it so nonchalant,
but I guess he does it often. But he just
casually called him the in word and thought it was acceptable.
And I'm just shocked that piece of hook has basically

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ratified this action and still employs this young man the
delivery driver.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
Thank you of gavin your question.

Speaker 17 (08:51):
Yeah, brother, thank you for joining us, and thank you
for what you're doing on behalf of your client. I'm
come go, I'm like you. I had to run that
back like three four, five times. I played it with
one of my friends and.

Speaker 9 (09:01):
I was like, are you hearing this?

Speaker 17 (09:02):
So I guess my question for you, sir, is you know,
I imagine I try and you might not be able
to answer this question, but I'm just so curious, like
what went down right after this took place?

Speaker 8 (09:13):
Was the rest of the conversation.

Speaker 17 (09:15):
Was there any additional conversing between the two, And again,
I understand you might not be able to answer that
you know directly, but just help us contextualize sort of
what happened immediately after we heard dot comment because the
video sort of cuts off rather abruptly.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
Yes, my client stayed cool. He is a lot about
in citizen of Mississippi.

Speaker 16 (09:39):
He really couldn't believe his ears, and so he wanted
to double check, and so he let the man go
ahead and leave after he signed the receipt, and did
he want to share what just happened with his wife?
And they went to the video doorbell system and watched
the video and listened to it, and they confirmed he
had heard what he heard.

Speaker 8 (09:58):
And so that's when he contacted me.

Speaker 16 (10:00):
And we have tried to settle this out of court
with piece of Hut, but they have been non responsive
until we file a lawsuit and they still have not
taken their appropriate action to resolve this matter.

Speaker 10 (10:12):
And so that leads me to my next question, mister Moore,
because we're talking June, we're coming up. It's almost a
year now and you filed this lawsuit. And I know
there's so much you can only can say publicly to everybody,
But has Pizza Hut been in any communication with you
whatsoever about this incident? Are they just thinking that you're
going to go away.

Speaker 16 (10:32):
I've spoken with the attorney for the institution for Pizza Hut,
but they have not done anything still to resolve this matter,
and so we're continuing to fight and we will take
it all the way to trial. This is unacceptable and
you cannot just go around colin people of the inn word,
even in Mississippi. I am just appalled, My client is appalled,

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and we are appalled that Pizza Hut has done nothing.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
But we do believe a good citizen jury will give justice.

Speaker 10 (11:01):
And my last question for you, just in terms of
the climate that we're living into now and today, with
so much going on, it just seems like there's a
certain level of comfort that people have just addressing us
in a particular way.

Speaker 9 (11:13):
Has that added to the level.

Speaker 10 (11:15):
Of concern and fear that your clients have experienced after
this incident.

Speaker 16 (11:21):
Yes, my client has a young family, a wife and
a child, and he's afraid to even give interviews. He's
in Oxford, Mississippi. He does not want his business jeopardize.
He fears for his safety. I mean this is the
same city where last week they were turning the black
woman calling Hlizzo and making monkey noise.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
This this is an oxfor Mississippi. Oxford continues to burn.
Mississippi is still on fire.

Speaker 10 (11:43):
Yes, and that's definitely a story that we're getting to
actually later today as well.

Speaker 14 (11:47):
Well.

Speaker 10 (11:47):
I thank you for your courage, and your client and
his family for their courage as well, and please continue
to keep us updated on what's going on with this trial.
We'll do, thank you, Thank you. This is Roland Martin
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Martin the University of Mississippi is investigating a student who
has gone viral for mimicking a monkey toward a black
woman participating in a pro Palestinian protest. The university has

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opened a student conduct investigation after the protesters were met
last week by actions that appear to convey hostility and
racist overtones. The student, identified as James JP Staples, was
caught on video making the sounds and jestures has also
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released this statement. The past few weeks have been challenging
for many colleges and universities across the United States as
they struggle to balance a protection of free speech with
maintaining appropriate and a respectful discourse among demonstrators and others
within the campus community. As part of that community, Phi
Delta Theta recognizes that freedom of expression is part of.

Speaker 9 (15:57):
The collegiate experience.

Speaker 10 (15:58):
However, the fraternity is admitted to upholding its principles as
a private membership organization. After reviewing the incident, it was
determined that the individual's behavior was unacceptable. The action in
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contradictory to our values. In partnership with local alumni, undergraduate leadership,

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and the university disciplinary due process was initiated which resulted
in the removal of membership. The situation will continue to
be monitored in cooperation with any further investigation. Palestinian protesters
were demonstrating in a barricaded zone Thursday when an estimated
two hundred counter protesters surrounded them. Some held American flags,

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Donald Trump flags, and others dressed in red, white and blue.
Gevin Man, Wow, stay in Mississippi here, we are right.
You see this every day with what you're doing with
the root on all of your other worlds. Talk to
me about how you people have talked so much about

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the pro Palestinian protesters are losing the message by taking
this action or that action. But a few people have
shared stories about what the counter protesters have been doing,
which this story highlights. How are you processing what we
just watched and the statement made by the fraternity as well?

Speaker 14 (17:22):
Well.

Speaker 17 (17:22):
Look, Oma Kungo, anyone from the South like I am,
I'm from Georgia. We unfortunately know how a lot of
these white fraternities operate, so I can't say that I'm
surprised to learn about what happened. To see this video,
to see the photos not only at all miss but
at universities across the country, not only in the South.
By the way, nor am I surprised that you had Republicans,
by the way out there, like Representative Mike Collins from

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my home state and the governor of Mississippi, Tate Reeves,
who took the social media to voice their support for
what we.

Speaker 8 (17:51):
Saw from these counter protesters.

Speaker 17 (17:53):
That I could go on and on obviously about the
racism that we see in this video, and by the way,
the unchecked racism that Unfortuate transpires so oftentimes outside of
the view of the camera, which, by the way, imagine
the vile things that this student has done and said
behind closed doors. It's only now that he was caught
being a racist on camera that is actually kicked him out,

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so you know, and I haven't seen the result of
this disciplin disciplinary action that the school is taking. I hope,
I hope that it results, that it results in some
strong action, because we're already seeing at other universities the
pro Palestinian students being suspended for their protest. And I
also want to use this opportunity to remind all of
our viewers that as the election approaches, Donald Trump actually

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posted videos from the counter protesters and said, quote, thank
you all, miss Maga so for all those out there
who think Trump cares about black people. I know there's
some black folks out there who do think that, make
no mistake he does not. At the same time, I
also want to speak to some of our young people
who are out there speaking their truth to power protesting.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
Continue to do that, but at the same time, know your.

Speaker 17 (19:04):
Legal rights and be smart with your protest because we
in our community oftentimes we don't have the same institutional
support and backing that some of those counter protesters do.
We don't have daddy or mommies or granddaddies or grand mommies,
our great granddaddy or great grand mommies money to fall
back on.

Speaker 8 (19:21):
And so I salute the young people who are.

Speaker 17 (19:24):
Peacefully protesting out there, unlike the counter protesters who are
doing anything but peaceful protests. But to our students who
our young people, make sure you know your legal rights
and make sure that you don't sacrifice your educational journey
along the way.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
Absolutely, and doctor Malvo is as former school you know,
university president of Bennett College, how would you have handled
what you've seen?

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Well, students have a right to protest, and I support
that fully. You're going to have the countervailing. It has
to be respectful. I would have throwed all those little
you know what's those old miss brothers off the campus.
They were reprehensible, They were not respectful. They were racist.

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But you know, Gavin said some of the students, I
want to say something to all of them as well.
When you go out here, make sure and take a
page out of Rolling Martin's book, had your camera, take
their pictures, identified them, call them out, make sure people
don't and then mama's and daddy's know that they are

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racist little fools who are now in Mississippi. That's not alarming.
I mean, like I said, some of y'all know my story,
but I spent a year. I got put out of
high schools in San Francisco, so I had to go
to high school in Mississippi. It transformed me in some ways.
It taught me a lot. But I had never experienced

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you know, I'm like fifteen sixty. I'd never experienced that
kind of racism. But people were just just like the
video we saw casually call you the N word or
if you were a woman. It wasn't just the end,
it was n B you know, And just like someone
would say hi, Julian, it would be hey, n b no,
you know, just like no filter. So that behavior is

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not unanticipated. But the leadership at Old Miss, frankly has
tolerated it. Again, I told you my mom taught at
Old Miss. I've been the Old Miss. The casual racism
there is just amazing. I respect and admire the black

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students who go there. I mean it's it's theoretically the
best college in Mississippi. So people want to go there
for that, for the networking if they're going to be
a lawyer. I mean, the law school is supposed to
be the best again, the best in the state, and
so people want to go there for the for the

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contacts and all of that. They might want to look
down the road to Tougaloo or Jackson State for a
more compatible environment. But folks want to go there, but
they're always under siege. When my mom was there, her
house became like a refuge that students would just go
and hang out of her house because you know, they
need they needed a refuge. Young ladies had attacks on

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them in the dormitories. Sexual racial sexual slurs were used,
and you saw that. You saw the little uh, I'm
not going to go there. I'm on television, but you
saw the little man grabbing his non crotch, and uh,
that's why I did go with there halfway his non crotch.
And I do not understand why people feel like I
need to do that. You see the cameras full. What

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are you doing? You have a mom and daddy and
sisters and brothers. What is wrong with you? But as
I said back to you, know, I think that university
presidents have kind of wooked out at some level because
you have to support the right to protest, and you
have to insist on civil protests. I think when some

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of these Jewish students are saying, oh gee, I feel
so threatened.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
Why.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
But I saw a young woman on television this morning.
She said whenever she heard the words from the River
to the Sea, she felt threatened. And my response in
my head was, well, then you want to feel threatened
because contextually that does not mean eliminate Jewish people. It
means that Palestinians want their rights too, from the river
to the sea. They want to be recognized. That's what

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this is all about. So I think university leadership, many
presidents are bowing to donors, and of course your number
one job as a college president is to raise money,
so they're bowing to donors who are saying insisting on action.
I think that many are afraid that when you embrace
Palestinian rights, you're automatically considered anti Semitic, which is not

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the case, but that is what many people are claiming.
And so I think that university presidents are stuck betwit
a rock and a hard place. But they must stand
up for justice. They must stand up for the fruit
first Amendment. One of the things that I haven't seen
a lot of is probably happening and I don't know
about it, but there need to be teachings. I mean,
this is commencement times, so there's not gonna be a

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lot of time for that. But people, when the first
October seventh started, it would have been beautiful to have
seen campus after campus doing teachings, teaching the history. People
don't know the history. They think Homasis dropped out the
sky and decided to start attacking Israel. Let's tell the
whole story. Let's go back to nineteen forty eight. Let's

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look at a bap of Palestine in nineteen forty eight
and then in nineteen sixty eight, and see about how
much territory has been taken. That does not justify, but
it does say universities have a right. Universe have a
responsibility to educate their students, and they have a right
to demand that students be respectful, but also that students

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be educated. Students have First Amendment rights.

Speaker 10 (24:53):
Absolutely, And Gevin, lastly to you again, wanted to come
back to you because you know you're from Georgia. We
see what's happening in MISISSI. When I was looking at
those protesters, I saw a lot of I saw nothing
that had to do with Palestine, Israel, Amas or anything.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
I saw the monkey demonstrations.

Speaker 10 (25:10):
And also you know the sister, you know, plus size
sister as well, the references to Lizzo. It seems like
they were taking every opportunity to throw out pretty much
any type of racial, fatphobic, and misogynistic slurs that.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
They can they can smout towards her.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
Should we be expecting more of this as we're going
into the twenty twenty four election, given that they were
also putting off these MAGA and Trump supporting signs as well.
And do we need to just brace up for it?

Speaker 8 (25:39):
I think we absolutely do.

Speaker 17 (25:40):
And I'm glad you mentioned the MAGA signs because we've
been seeing a lot of those at these counter protests
as well. I mean, this is this is how the
maga mob mentality operates, right, And this is not new
in our country. We've had the modern day Naga mob
mentality here since the very founding of our country. And
it's looked differently. They're out of time. It's looked differently

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during slaver Ry. Its looked differently during reconstruction and Jim
Crow and the Civil Rights era, and in the present.
It's looked differently throughout history. But you notice a lot
of the same characteristics. And it's why Donald Trump rose
to power in the first place. It's because he's been able,
on the heels of the election of our nation's first
black president, to tap into a lot of racial animis

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and a lot of racial fear. That's why Donald Trump
and a lot of his MAGA cronies talk so much
about immigration. They talk now about wanting to crack down
on anti white racism. Those sorts of topics, those sorts
of policies that Donald Trump and his allies and his
cronies are ready to re enact in a second term
are what motivating a lot of these folks that you're

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seeing a lot of these people who showed up with
the Trump flags and who are taunting the protesters and
all of that. They don't care about what's going on
in the Middle East, they don't care about these issues.
This is all just hate and it's what Donald Trump
is fueled. And so as we get closer and closer
to the election, because I think a lot of people
for now are still very checked out of the election,
so as we get closer to the election, we certainly

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should expect to see more of this. We should recognize
again that when we're looking at these counter protests happen,
we're looking at these attitudes throughout our country, that they
go back to one man.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
Right now, at least it's Donald Trump.

Speaker 17 (27:19):
But even if Donald Trump is to lose, those attitudes
and those feelings will not go anywhere. So this goes
far beyond him can go the election. This goes to
a lot of feelings and hatred that people have and
are harboring right now that Donald Trump can tap into.
But they're not going to go away even after he loses.
So we should brace ourselves.

Speaker 10 (27:37):
No, absolutely, thank you for that, and you know, Nina
Simone wrote a song about this at the end of
the day, and we know what that jont was called.
So it just keeps waring its head. We're going to
keep talking about it because that's what we do. This
is Roland Martin unfiltered. We will be right back after
this break. You are watching the Blackstar Network.

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Speaker 9 (30:34):
For the second time.

Speaker 10 (30:35):
A New York judge hosts Donald Trump in contempt of court.
Judge Jaan Marshawn personally rebuked Trump from the bench, saying
that if there were further violations, he might bypass financial
penalties and place the former president behind bars. Marshawn acknowledged
that jailing mister Trump was quote unquote the last thing
he wanted to do, but said that it was his

(30:58):
responsibility to quote protect the dignity of the.

Speaker 9 (31:01):
Justice system unquote.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
Doctor Malva, it seems to me as if former president
is kind of in the you about to mess around
and find out.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Stage well, I think he had. You know, he continues
to violate the judges orders. He's disrespecting the judge, I
mean just systematically, and it's like he doesn't care. But
nobody wants to see him in jail because first of all,
if he's in jail, where's a secret service going to
be do they have to go to jail to Secondly,

(31:33):
you know, and he needs protection and I mean, you know,
if they send it with Rockers, I'm not so sure
about that. You know, the brothers Rockers are interesting. Let
me just put it that way. We've gotten Rackers' stories
in the past. So he's really putting. I mean, the
judges going to maybe have to be creative and not
put him in Rikers, but maybe put him in some

(31:56):
kind of lockdown where he goes someplace and he can't know,
Oh email know this, know that. But no, he is
tempting this judge. And why is he doing that? Because
it serves his purpose because if anything happens to him
going to jail, whatever, his base is going to be
energized or look at how unfair they are, look at
what they did to him. So you know, but this

(32:18):
is this is vintage Trump. We have never seen him
you know, color inside the lines, follow the rules. He
doesn't think rules were made for him. He has violated
every human principle, cheating people that he works with as
shorting small businesses of money that he owes them, and
then to take the small business more money than they
have to try to suit him for the money that

(32:39):
they owe, so they just go out of business. And
then this has happened time and time and time again.
But this judge is gonna be time enough for him.
I see that this judge may just do something for him.
I would just employ the judge to be created. I mean,
there's a way.

Speaker 12 (32:53):
You know.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
My Bob used to if you're on punishment, she would
lock you in your room. My room maps actually have
to have a library in it. So I'd advid locked
me in the room, if you want to. And when
it was time for me to go out the room,
I said, oh no, mom, I'm reading. It would drive
her crazy. And she finally figured out if you locked
me in the room that had no books and no stimulation,

(33:15):
oh that I I'm like, I didn't you get out
of here? Yeah, So figure out a way to punish
him without making it a spectacle, because that's what he wants.
A spectacle serves him, well, it sir, and it energizes
his base. There's some things take take his Internet away
from him the thirty days, oh and that would really hurt.

(33:36):
You know. They can make him wear a purple wig.
That's nice. But you know, the judge is going to
have to be creative because if he creates a spectacle,
it's going to serve Trump.

Speaker 10 (33:48):
Yeah, I hear you, and Gevin people have talked so
much about, oh my gosh, the fact that Trump is
going through this trial. That means that, oh, you know,
black people are going to identify with him. And then
you know, you add the sneakers and you have these
other things. And the fact of the matter is, Kevin
that when it comes he Trump talks so much about, oh,
the system is rigged, it's a two tier system. But

(34:08):
he always talks about himself as if he's at.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
The bottom of the system.

Speaker 10 (34:11):
But you know, doctor Malvo knows and everybody watching knows
that if a black man did any a single thing
even close to anything Trump had has done with this
judge and this court and this trial, he would have
been in jail the first time.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Under the jail.

Speaker 17 (34:29):
Oh that's right, and that's what makes this so insulting. Honestly,
it's the audacity that he thinks that we're going to
buy the argument that what he's going through is at
all comparable than any way, shape or formal realm to
what black folks are going through on a daily basis
in our justice system. But let me just say this, right,
this is more vintage Donald Trump. It's par for the course, again,

(34:49):
reminding us by the way of the hypocrisy in the
Republican Party, which claims to be about law and order.
Meanwhile their leader is facing ninety one criminal indictments in
more than one juristic and the contempt warning that he
got today I believe that was his tenth one. That's
ten thousand dollars in fines so far. And you know,
you guys have both hit on like the fact that

(35:10):
if he does end up being jailed for this, he's
going to spin it for his political benefit. But with
all that being said, I do think that this trial,
as important to end as necessary as it is, puts
us at risk of not taking Donald Trump as seriously
as we should. He is leading in a number of polls,
including in some very important swing state polls. Recent data

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also is showing us that Americans' attitudes towards Trump is sweetening,
not souring. But the thing is is, we know exactly
what Donald Trump is hoping to achieve in a second term.
When he was president the first time, we saw what
he was capable of, and he has not been shy
about reminding us of what he's hoping to do if
he's elected again. In a few of those things. Right,

(35:51):
we know he wants to be a dictator, but only
on day one. He's looking January right, Only on day one,
he's considering pardoning the January sixth insurrectionists, who he believes
are patriots. He's planning the largest domestic deportation operation. That's
a quote in history, which he would enlist the military,
the National Guard to help him with. He would grant

(36:11):
immunity to cops for wrongdoings that they commit while they're
on the job.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
He wants to fight anti white racism.

Speaker 17 (36:17):
And by the way, these are all things that he
said as recently as an interview that was released in
Time magazine last week. He's comfortable sitting by and letting
the States chip away at basic rights and freedoms, including
reproductive rights and of course voting rights. I'm very sure
he's ready to remake the federal government by purging career
staff anyone who's not loyal to him. While on the
other hand, we see the President the Vice president. They're

(36:40):
running to continue a lot of the work that they've
done so far. I know we'll talk probably a little
bit later about some of the economic work that the
Vice president was in Detroit today touting. But we've seen
this ticket create good paying jobs, lower prescription drugs for seniors,
fights and the climate crisis, defend the rights of women
to make their own choices about their own bodies, make
community safer from gun violence and police misconduct, and actually

(37:04):
actually defend the rule of law. And so as we're
seeing all this play out, I just want to remind
us to take Donald Trump as seriously as we ought to,
and remind ourselves of this November, we will be faced
with a choice between two radically different visions for the
future of our country, and I certainly know which one
that I want to come through.

Speaker 9 (37:21):
Well, let's follow up on that, doctor Maveau.

Speaker 10 (37:23):
I want to just ask you, because given what Gevin
was saying and kind of going off of your point
as well. It's almost as if there are some people
who said that they wish that Trump was out on
the campaign trail so you can continue to get get
out there and make these statements that they're buiden campaigns
against them.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
But then there are other.

Speaker 10 (37:39):
People who are saying he's big, his campaign is the
court room, and so on some levels it's actually helping him.
So is that part of the reason why Gevin's talking
about there being a tie because of you know, the
court is giving him more attention or different type of attention.

Speaker 9 (37:54):
How do you see that?

Speaker 10 (37:54):
How do you see us going into this election and
this idea of court as campaigning go off?

Speaker 9 (38:00):
Going off of what Gavin was talking about referring to.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
This, well, I I want to thank Gavin for running
down all the things and encourage people to read Project
twenty twenty five. I mean, if you read Project twenty
twenty five, you will be horrified. Gavin just hit the
tip of the iceberg. There's so much more. I think
I'm about halfway through it and I have to throw
it down a couple of times, and once I actually
up chucked in the middle of As a baby economist,

(38:25):
I worked for the Council of Economic Advisors under Jimmy Carter,
and CEA is one of the organizations he talks about. Ordinarily,
at CEA College, professors work you know, an academic year
on you know, on leave. The three members of only
three members are appointed by the president, but the staff
is academics. They say, oh, we're going to change that.

(38:49):
We will want people to work the calendar year to
coincide with the president's term. So basically they're talking about
firing people. You've taken lead from your job and now
they're talking about firing people. I mean, that's the least
of it.

Speaker 14 (39:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
The environmental piece they're talking about reversing environmental regulations Project
twenty twenty five is something that any black person who
cares about what's going on needs to read. And if
you know, you've got this myth that black men are
supporting the Orange man, that myth, I don't believe it.

(39:23):
That these numbers. I mean, I just think we're too
far out. But I think if you are thoughtful and
you read this, he wants to eliminate anything that has
to do with race in terms of minority business and
everything else. This is unacceptable. It's utterly unacceptable. But you
know he's but it's a spectacle that he's creating that
takes us away from the issues. So and the media

(39:44):
is partially at fault. I mean all of the major
networks and the major cable networks that they have endless
panels talking about his antics. Well, what they really need
to talk about is policies. I mean, his antics are interesting,
but it's just like you go to the sch the
antics are interesting, but the policies are what we really

(40:05):
need to be drilling down on. And I just don't
see that. I wish that I was watching something in
the middle of the night because I'm insladniac. So I
watch it and they got seven people on this panel
on CNN talking smack about you know, well, you know,
maybe he should do this, Maybe he should do it.
Why not talk about what Biden has done for employment?

(40:26):
Why not talk about inflation from a different context. Think
that their surface on the issues and deep on the
Orange Man, and it ought to be the other way around.

Speaker 14 (40:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (40:36):
Absolutely, Well, you know that's what we're going to continue
to do here on the Blackstar Network. We don't know
how to do it any other way. So we're going
to continue to monitor this and continue to call out
Trump and call out a lot of these media outlets
who aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing. But
you all know, if you need the real news, you
got to come right here to the Blackstar Network. This
is Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 9 (40:56):
We will be right.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Back hatred on the streets.

Speaker 19 (41:05):
A horrific scene white nationalists rally that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
We white people are their their minds.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
As an angry proa.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Trump mock storms to the US Capital or s show.
We're about to see the lives where I call white
minority resistance.

Speaker 20 (41:24):
We have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Every time that people of color had made in progress,
whether real or symbolic, there has been but Carold Anderson
at every university calls white rage as a backlash.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
This is the life of the Proud Boys and the
Boogaaloo Boys America. There's going to be more of this
at the Proud Boy.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
God.

Speaker 21 (41:53):
This country is getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and
its attitudes because of fear of white people.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
For he that you're taking our job, they're taking our resources,
you're taking out women. This is white people. Hi.

Speaker 22 (42:24):
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are their male role models? Who can they turn to
for advice to learn about what manhood is all about.
On our next show, we talk about why male mentoring
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(42:44):
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Speaker 12 (42:48):
These and many other probing questions.

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Speaker 9 (43:01):
Roland Martin, I'm fielding.

Speaker 10 (43:30):
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twenty twenty four. The seventeen year old is six feet
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Speaker 9 (43:43):
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nine three one three five nine four zero four four.
Kim Godwin. Kim Godwin, the first black woman to run
a broadcast TV news division, is leaving ABC News after

(44:08):
three years. The Walt Disney co owned network announced Godwin's
departure Sunday. Godwin joined ABC in May twenty twenty one
from CBS News, where she was an executive vice president
and oversaw its diversity efforts. Here's a part of Godwin's
statement about her retirement from broadcast news.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Quote.

Speaker 10 (44:30):
I understand and appreciated the profound significance of being the
first black woman to lead a national broadcast news network
when I accepted a role as president of ABC News
a little over three years ago. It's both for privilege
and a debt to those who chipped away before me
to lead a team whose brand is synonymous with trust, integrity,

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and a dogged determination to be the best in the business.

Speaker 9 (44:55):
Unquote.

Speaker 10 (44:56):
Godwin's sudden exit came after reports that Deborah Connell, the
Disney veteran hired in February to oversee ABC News, was
conducting a review of Godwin's performance and had voice dissatisfaction
in private conversations with the network's state of affairs.

Speaker 9 (45:13):
Kevin something, something, something feels.

Speaker 10 (45:22):
So when I read Godwin's statement, I feel like she
could have said anything about her time there, but she
specifically mentioned being a black woman. And then, you know,
we're talking about three years ago. We're still in kind
of the quote unquote summer of racial recogning or the
summer after the summer racial reckoning, and people are talking

(45:45):
about all of these you know, diversity things we're gonna do,
We're gonna pledge this, we're gonna pledge that. And now
we're in twenty twenty four, we're experiencing what many of
us are calling diversity fatigue. And so I don't know
missus Godwin, but I kind of feel like her putting
that out there was saying that there's another there there
and another layer that she wasn't going through.

Speaker 9 (46:06):
How did you read that statement?

Speaker 8 (46:09):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 17 (46:10):
It does seem like there might be something else going
on beneath the surface. Like you said, I don't know
Kim Godwin. I don't have no affiliation with ABC. I've
never spoken to anyone as far as I know about
Kim Godwin. So you know, I can't comment on the
specifics of what actually happened under her tenure or the
circumstances that led to this. I read a statement from

(46:31):
the National Association of Black Journalists, the NABJ that accused
a lot of Godwin's detractors of leveling racially motivated attacks
and whatnot, and so I encourage everyone to read that
statement because I think it makes a lot of good points.
Other than that, I mean, I don't have a ton
to say about Kim Godwin in particular, other than not
she's a trailblazer and no one can take that away
from her.

Speaker 8 (46:51):
I do want to say one thing.

Speaker 17 (46:52):
I want to talk a little bit about sort of
the importance of power and ownership in corporate America. I
think a lot of times we sell break when we
see black faces get appointed to high places. Oftentimes those
are within existing institutions, and I think that's great. I
may have posted about Kim Godwin when she was named
the head of ABC News. I'm sure a lot of
folks in our community celebrated that, but we know that

(47:14):
many times, and you point to the historical piece when
she was appointed.

Speaker 8 (47:18):
To her position.

Speaker 17 (47:19):
A lot of companies might put us in high places
without giving us the support that we need. And so
I'm reminded of a universal truth, which to me is
that there is no true comfort without control. And when
I say control, I meet ownership or equity. Take sports
for example, because this is I mean entertainment, sports news.

Speaker 8 (47:35):
It's all sort of same realm.

Speaker 17 (47:37):
We talk a lot about we need more black coaches,
we need more black team presidents, we need more black
general managers, and we do. I'm all for that, but
I think we don't talk enough about, for examples, that
we need more black owners. Why because owners can hire
and fire Art Rooney of the Steelers can wake up
tomorrow and fire Mike Tomlin black coach if he wants to.
But nobody's going to fire Art Rooney. They can't the

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most senior person in a company or business. But if
you don't have that controlling status, if you're not the
controlling board member or share person, your head could roll tomorrow.
And in fact, some of the same people who celebrated
you on your rise will be the very first to.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
Celebrate from on your fall.

Speaker 17 (48:15):
And so I applaud Roland in this whole team for
what they've built at the Blackstar Network, because ain't nobody.

Speaker 8 (48:20):
Can take that away from him.

Speaker 17 (48:21):
So I want to say to the young people right
who are out there, aspire to own, aspire to produce,
aspire to hire, and that way you can never be fired.

Speaker 10 (48:31):
Oh absolutely, and I'm so glad you mentioned NABJS pulling
up their statement right now. NABJ stands firmly behind ABC
News president Kim Godwin. We are concerned over recent media
reports that seem to be written with the intention of
undermining the leadership of the first black woman to take
the helm of a global news organization. Many of the

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latest articles surrounding her leadership fail to demonstrate basic journalism
by providing alternative viewpoints. There seems to be an intentionality
to cite anonymous sources as Godwin's detractors, coupled with the
use of derogatory or stereotypical terms to describe her. Meanwhile,
these reports are totally ignoring sources and facts that speak

(49:15):
to Godwin having significant support inside the organization. Those supporters
have told NABJ that they see the attacks perpetrated through
media reports as quote unquote racially motivated or in reaction
to her not being in what some in the industry
call the quote unquote good old boy.

Speaker 9 (49:31):
Network of players.

Speaker 10 (49:33):
NABJ is extremely disappointed to see such a reckless, unbalanced,
and unfair style of reporting, as demonstrated in other stories
that do not have alternative viewpoints and in some cases
have racially insensitive language. Unlike a recent Wall Street Journal article,
the journal provided different viewpoints with more perspective and fairness

(49:55):
regarding Godwin's performance and relationship with staff. Because of Godwin's
dem and long commitment to NABJ, its membership, and the
journalism industry as a whole, NABJ will not be silent
about what we believe is unfair treatment, nor will we
stand idly by and watch the violation of basic journalism
principles used to diminute just in such an historic moment

(50:18):
for black women in news leadership. We will be meeting
with ABC News and Disney executives to talk about a
path forward.

Speaker 9 (50:26):
Doctor Malveaux.

Speaker 10 (50:27):
My mom is watching Doctor and Galila Wacabongo shout out
to you, Mom, and just watching her trajectory in the
spaces that she was in, being at Harvard, Boston College,
all of these different spaces, my siblings and I came
to pick up on certain language in terms of how
people will talk about her. When I'm reading the statements

(50:48):
about miss Godwin again someone I don't know. I see
the triggers that make me think she's being treated like
how I saw my mom, Like I I've heard so
many stories talked about you.

Speaker 9 (50:59):
Are you talking about your life?

Speaker 10 (51:00):
And even what's talking about here in this Nabja statement,
it's almost like she's being looked at as an angry
black woman who they're so like they needed to rein in.

Speaker 9 (51:09):
How do you see this?

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Well, obviously she called out being a black woman, and
we know that the amount of missogyny, know ah, that
black women are experiencing these days is just extreme, I
mean literally extreme. We see it with the Vice president
who you know what, one of those little, you know,
airheaded white women wrote an article in the Post talking

(51:31):
about she needs to step down so Biden can win.
That's nonsense. And I mean, hell, we had dan Quail
who didn't have two brains, you know, two brain cells
in his head, and no one ever said that about him.
But Kamala Harris and I could call her Kamala, I
know it from San Francisco. She's good people, she's brilliant.
Why is she getting this kind of hate?

Speaker 9 (51:53):
Real?

Speaker 4 (51:53):
And Mosby did something not too bright. But everybody does it.
She lied on a mortgage application. She's faced up for
forty years in jail, but lying on a mortgage As
if everybody who lied on the mortgage application, I can
say I did, because the statue of the limitations is over.
If everybody who did that had to go to jail,

(52:14):
there would be no room in jail. And we can
go down the list. We can talk about Don Staley,
the sister who coached an amazing team, but little Becky
gets all the attention, not the people who won. Give
me who won. And so when we look at this,
they're just by nature, oh we can't go And you
know this, by nature, nobody wants to report to a

(52:37):
black woman recent and their sexism collide and they just mad.
And then you know the white boys who have to
report to the black women they beat to fight. They're
like uh uh, and so they drop these things angry
black women. And then the ultimate insult was they put
this woman over her in charge of news operations. So

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that's effectively a demotion and she wasn't having it and
she should not have had it. It should not have happened.
So the NABJ statement is a very important statement, and
it really says it all in terms of calling out
all these anonymous sources. You know, anonymous source means you
made it up. That's really really means to me, you

(53:22):
took your biases and you put them in an anonymous
person's mouth who we could never find because they don't exist.
And I mean, I'm right onto the sister. She held
it up as long as she could, and her exit
was very dignified. But when you read between the lines,
she ain't happy. They messed with her and she you know,

(53:47):
I'm sure she got paid and I'm happy for that.
I'm sure there was some kind of NDA that she
had to sign and that's how it goes. But you know,
she was, she is a trailblazer. She did important work.
And the fact is that as these walls come tumbling down,
you have devils who want to build them back up.

(54:08):
So you know, we saw it. We just talked about
all this. We talk about you know when we're you know,
you and I are usually the Monday crew. You know,
we see stuff after stuff after stuff, and it's like,
uh huh, this is how it is. So what you know,
we we applaud the sister, but we have this just
lets us know that the struggle continues. And you know,

(54:30):
for all its so called liberalism, journalism is not liberal
at all. Journalism is about maintaining the status quote. So
will you ever put someone who's a part of a
marginalist population and a power position, the status quote is
going to be threatened. And unless you dot all the i's,
cross all the t's, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,

(54:51):
and you and I've talked you to, I've lived it.
Unless you do all that, and you know, kiss it
up an appropriate amount of But a bunch of things
are going to happen. And here we see it. And
so it's a tragedy on one hand, it's a lesson
on the other and it is a call to action.

Speaker 10 (55:08):
And speaking of a call to action, Gevin, in your
experience in journalism and these types of statements that are
coming out, do you feel and of course with the
also the DEI backlash and some people saying now DEI
stands for didn't earn it and the light do you
see more situations like this coming down the pike where

(55:28):
you're going to see either more black people than trailblazers
let go or something Basically, I've had enough based on
what they're dealing with. What do you see is going
to be going down as the trend.

Speaker 17 (55:40):
So I think definitely, you know, it'll be different for
every individual person. I wouldn't be surprised if these trends
continue going to build off something that doctor Melvo said,
which is that she referenced back. She harken back to
what we talked about at Old Miss right, And I
think I talked earlier about how you know we see
the sort of old Miss the Maga mob mentality is

(56:01):
those people that we saw the counter protesters holding up
their Trump flags and being racist, doing their racist thing
on camera, those same people are going to go fill
those very same jobs in corporate America, in newsrooms, in boardrooms,
in sports locker rooms, you name it. And we've seen

(56:22):
time and time again on both sides of the aisle,
folks who were in power, we learned that they wore
blackface or they did something else very racist back in
their past and were like, oh, no way, how could
this have happened? But I think every time it served
to remind us that we might see those people in
that video and associate them with a certain type of

(56:44):
you know, Charlotte'sville, good people on both sides kind of situation,
while forgetting that those same people hold power in spaces
that are white collar, that are professional spaces that we
all work in. And so it come as no surprise
when we hear stories come out about the racist or
when we experience ourselves the racists in these very different spaces,

(57:08):
in different spaces across corporate America. It's because those very
same people are able to skirt by, avoid any sort
of sanction, of avoid any sort of disciplinary action, and
end up in positions where they can make life hell
for black people.

Speaker 10 (57:26):
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glad that you both bought up the comments that you did.
And I'm also glad that we have the Blackstar Network
here as well as such a reputable organization like NABJ
that's gonna stand with our family in the industry who
are dealing with it with this so that people can
know that they're not alone. And also that call to

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basic journalistic practices, which is something that is also lacking today.
So this is also something that we are going to
be keeping an eye on here on the Blackstar Network.
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Speaker 10 (01:01:58):
Vice President Kamala Harris was in the de Troit for
her second stop on the Economic Opportunity Tour. She was
there to promote the Biden administration's economic agenda. She made
a huge economic announcement that will boost small black business owners.
But before Harris took to the stage, several people, including
Michigan's Lieutenant Governor Garland Gilchrist, took the time to brag

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about the opportunities Detroit offers.

Speaker 24 (01:02:26):
On behalf of my partner in public service, Michigan Governor
Greshen Whitmer. I am so proud to welcome all of
you to the historic Childs h Right Museum and to
welcome the Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris
here to the.

Speaker 9 (01:02:40):
Detroit, Michigan.

Speaker 24 (01:02:47):
Now she's joined here on this visit and this important
set of conversations around the country about economic opportunity and
agenda that works for everyone. That's something that we understand
here in Michigan, especially in the city of Detroit, right,
a city that has historically defined wealth creation for the
black community here in America. You see, there are so

(01:03:07):
many people around the country who when they came to
Detroit for the first time, it was the first time
they saw black folks and people of color would have money.

Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
Yeah, I know, I'm right for you'se going to know yourself.

Speaker 9 (01:03:20):
We know how to show ours off a little differently
than everybody else.

Speaker 24 (01:03:24):
But what underlies that is the fact that people saw
a path to progress here in Detroit, Michigan. Whether you
were families who came as part of the Great Migration
like my own, or whether you were entrepreneurs who were
so enterprising that discrimination couldn't keep you out of your dreams,
whether you were people who were part of the labor
movement born here in the state of Michigan that worked

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to provide a future for their family the way that
they could see fit, where they were respected and protecting
the workplace. They knew that Detroit and Michigan was a
land of.

Speaker 10 (01:03:56):
Opportunity, doctor Malvo, as the economists, somebody's been putting in
this work for so long dealing with these issues. Can
you share your thoughts number one, about this economic opportunity
program that Vice President Harris is leading and just the
overall message that people are not getting as it relates
to the Biden agenda, as it relates to economic policy overall.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
You know, the Biden Harris administration has done really a
brilliant job in drilling down on what is needed the
African American community. They focus on entrepreneurship, they focus on employment,
they focus on HBCUs. All these things are pivotal. And
the brother I just adore him. The Lieutenant governor from

(01:04:42):
Michigan who talks about Detroit, talks about what Biden talks
about the role that union's plays. See, you did not
have to have a college degree or even a high
school diploma to be middle class in Detroit. You have
to have a good union job. People twenty years ago
with overtime, we're making over one hundred k as an autoworker.

(01:05:06):
You know how they had seniority in this and this
and this, But basically those are basic jobs and those
are kind of jobs with an infrastructure program the President
Biden is trying to encourage. If we're able to rebuild
the Francis Scott Key Bridge over there in Baltimore, those
are union jobs. You know, open congo. You know this

(01:05:27):
as well as I do. The minimum wage at seven
dollars and twenty five cents an hour is an insult.
Now it's not. You know, half of the states don't
have it. Many states of DC. You know, we're seventeen
and changed, California twenty. But by and large, if you're
at Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Colledlorola, those old Confederate states, they're
making very little money. So I do not understand. And

(01:05:50):
then you look at the program. It's a brilliant program,
and it speaks to us. This is really what Vice
President is doing is really good because by base, criticism
of the Biden Hairs administration is they don't toot their
own horn. They don't say enough about what they're doing.
And if they don't say enough out they're doing, people
don't know. So then you get these maggaheads and these

(01:06:12):
disaffected negros who run the braggahead game. Listen, listen to
what your HBCU got listen to what minority business are getting. Listen,
pay attention. So I'm excited about the tour. I'm happy
that she's out there. I hope she continues this as
long as she can.

Speaker 9 (01:06:30):
I hear you.

Speaker 10 (01:06:30):
But but Gevin, you know I'm up this morning, I
like all of us here consuming news all day six
seven am, taking in the news hour after hour, getting
reports I didn't see this, hour after hour, back to
back Trump stuff, trials, cease fire, this and other conversations

(01:06:53):
not a Sometimes, Gvin, I am watching the news, and
I am forgetting who was the president of the United States?
And how are you seeing the fact that this type
of story is not getting the type of coverage it deserves.

Speaker 8 (01:07:09):
So you hit the nail on the head.

Speaker 17 (01:07:10):
I think right now, we're in this media climate in
which the controversy, the juicy, the salacious, that's what sells.
So you take the former president a hush money trial
involving a sex scandal, and that same person is running
for president again. That's the perfect storm of what the

(01:07:31):
news media, of what cable media wants to cover. We
also know, though, that the way we consume media, especially
young people, is changing a lot of people are going
on to social media more these days, getting their news
from snapchat. I think if that's still a thing, Chad
and TikTok, all these are their news sources, right and
even more so on social media. Are those juicy rumors

(01:07:54):
you know, Drake Kendrick like all of that, that feud,
that's what people are talking about. I think it's a
dark and shame that the real substance of the issue
are getting lost in all of that.

Speaker 14 (01:08:05):
Right.

Speaker 17 (01:08:06):
And what's interesting is that when I talk to people,
I mentioned to them that, you know, I used to
work for the Vice president. A lot of them and
the media seems to think that there's a lot of
negativity around the VP, and that might be true for
some people, but what I hear from most people is
that they like the VP. They just feel like they
don't really see her enough. They feel like they don't
really know her. And what I hear from a lot

(01:08:26):
of them is that they want to see more of
the VP. That's why I think I'm so excited that
the Vice President is hitting the road. She is such
an effective messenger on the issue of reproductive freedom. We've
seen her travel this country on her fight for Reproductive
Freedom's Tour speaking truth to power on that issue, and
now on this Economic Opportunity Tour, and I was extremely

(01:08:48):
happy that she started this tour in my hometown of Atlanta,
and I'm excited for this tour to continue to progress.
But I think it's on the media to make sure
that they lift up this work, because the whole.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Point of this is toward.

Speaker 17 (01:09:00):
The whole point when it comes to connecting with black
folks on the ground, is so that they can we
can close the knowledge gap that exists between what work,
that amazing work, the historic work that this administration is doing,
investing in small businesses and bringing the rate of small
business growth among the Black community to its fastest rate
in decades, adding a record number of jobs, bringing black

(01:09:23):
unemployment down to record loans, raising wages, lowering the cost
of insulin and prescription drugs for seniors, learning the cost
of childcare, taking historic actions to forgive student loans. This
is incredible, incredible, life changing, generational altering work. But the
unfortunate thing is that there a lot of people on
the ground who just aren't tracking. And so it really

(01:09:45):
I urged in the strongest terms the media to cover
this work right. I think a lot of people, like
I said earlier, are still very checked out on these issues,
are checked out on the election. It's still a little
bit of ways away. People are going to wake up soon.
But it's important that between now and then that the
campaign the administration continues to deploy their strongest messengers, and
to me, that includes the Vice President to lift up

(01:10:07):
so much of this work, to connect with first of all,
connect with especially our black voters, and then educate them
on this work and convey to them that they want
to build on that work. They want to build on
the work I just mentioned, They want to work at
issues like making housing more affordable, right, continuing to lower costs,
and so I think this is the kind of meaningful engagement, education,

(01:10:29):
activation that a lot of us were looking for from
the ticket. And I'm excited for them to continue on
with it, and I'm excited for the VP to continue
traveling this country to lift up this really amazing work.

Speaker 9 (01:10:40):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (01:10:41):
And Don Graves, Junior Deputy Secretary of Commerce economic Opportunities,
also spoke.

Speaker 25 (01:10:49):
Yes, economic empowerment economic opportunity is personal for me, not
only as a fellow Midwesterner, but as someone who's been
on the ground in this city, helping them turn and
despair and disastering to hope and healing. During the Obama
Biden administration, after years of under investment and disinvestment, and

(01:11:10):
after the Great Recession had swept through Detroit and the
rest of the country, leaving the city in bankruptcy, I
was asked by President Obama and then Vice President Biden
to be their point person on the recovery of Detroit.
It was some of the hardest but most rewarding work
I've ever done in my life. And I don't need
to remind folks in this community of the challenges that

(01:11:32):
you faced. But together with the mayor, with local elected leaders,
with the community, with stakeholders all across this region, we
worked together. The community came together, focused on rebuilding the
city infrastructure, city services, creating a new economic development strategy
focused on creating quality jobs, investment opportunities all across this community.

(01:11:58):
Even where Wall Street wasn't able to find them, and
even during such a challenging period, Detroiter's never buckled together.
You all, with our support, drew up a roadmap to recovery,
a recovery I think we can all now confidently call
the Detroit Renaissance. Today, we're in the middle of an

(01:12:19):
increasingly competitive global economic environment with ever more aggressive competitors
and adversaries, and under the leadership of President Biden and
Vice President Harris were making historic investments in Detroit, in
Michigan and all across the country that aren't just writing
this ship, writing our economy, but they're positioning this country

(01:12:40):
for generational economic opportunities for all Americans, not just some,
but all Americans.

Speaker 10 (01:12:48):
Doctor malvel As Grazel was speaking, I wrote down something
he said. He said, hope and healing, And when I
heard that, it made me think about the fact that
they are starting this program. They're launching it, as Kevin
said in his hometown of Atlanta, and going through the
cities with large black populations, populations that have felt that
they have not really been part of the economic system

(01:13:12):
in America. As they kick off this tour and go
through these different cities, do you feel like there's real
potential to reach people on the ground kind of where
they are, to really help them understand the aspects of
the Biden agenda that we've been talking about and that
they've been talking about in Detroit today.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Well, Obi kango. I think they have to be very
biggerous rather in connecting the dots, because you here's what's
going on with folks at the bottom. You've got this
thing called macroeconomic ecstasy. You keep hearing about the numbers,
and the numbers are good. If you're out a player
rate less than four percent, been that way for almost

(01:13:50):
a year. You keep hearing that good stuff. But you're
sitting here down in here on the ground. You know,
you don't You're not seeing that. So you've got to
connect the dots. Some of the things that the Biden
Harris administration are doing are great, especially for entrepreneurs. But
connect the dots in your talk. And I'm sure Gavin

(01:14:10):
is a speech writer, can do this better than me.
But connect the dots so that you're talking about what
entrepreneur What entrepreneurship trickles down, so you know, only three
percent of our nation's businesses are owned by black people.
You within ten percent of us are entrepreneurs. So while
this is good, it's great. Frankly, at the same time,

(01:14:33):
you're pooky who's delivering pizza. It doesn't make a difference
in your life. So what has happened is they've got
to connect the dots. They've got to connect the dots
in the way that people get excited. They have to
see stuff. So you've got to program great program. You've
gone to Atlanta, gone to Detroit, where there are enormous

(01:14:54):
needs in Detroit, a city that's on the brink. It's
coming back in some and some areas.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
What needs to happen really quickly. I hope is don't
just talk about the program you're bringing, show the people
some results. So in other words, we brought this program
right now John's Jones business has all this stuff that
it didn't have a year ago. That's the kind of
thing that people can get excited about. I think that
the administration, as I say, I give them a B.

(01:15:26):
I wouldn't give them a but then I don't give
anybody a day. I'd give them a B, but I
give them a C. On communications. Now, this tour that
the Vice President is on gives them a possibility of
an upgrade, but it has to be more. And this
you know with mister Graves, who is amazing, he's fantastic.

(01:15:48):
He's done really great work with the Lieutenant governor, with
so many other people surrounding her. This is good for us.
We're the you know, commentariat. What does it mean to poopy?

Speaker 14 (01:16:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:16:02):
What does it mean? Tanisha? And that's the question that
they got to answer because this doesn't translate for the
voter unfortunately.

Speaker 10 (01:16:11):
Well, well answer the question, Gavin. Yeah, you're in communications,
you're your speech writer. What you're in Atlanta? You saw,
you saw the kickoff. What do you feel needs to
be happening after the VP leaves Atlanta, after she leaves Detroit?
Is it is it on us to put the message out?
Is that the Biden needs to do the administration needs
to do more? Is it a combination of both? You're

(01:16:32):
in the communications business. How do you see the way
this should unfold?

Speaker 17 (01:16:37):
So I definitely think there's a role for each segment
to play. I think let's start with the administration slash
the campaign. They're sort of, I guess associated together at
this point in time. I think it's important that they
make clear that this tour, that these stops along the
tour are not just whether it's a VP or the
president coming in, you know, making a speech and then

(01:16:58):
coming out right of in and out. I think it's
important that the campaign makes clear that that's not what
these engagements are about. These engagements are about actual, intentional, authentic,
genuine touch points with communities that have really been left behind,
that have not been engaged by political leadership over the decades.

(01:17:19):
I think right now there is a lot of distrust
between folks on the ground in communities like Atlanta or
Detroit or you name it, and sort of the political
ruling class. Let's say, I think a lot of folks
on the ground just don't feel like whether you're a Democrat,
whether you're a Republican as president, they don't really feel
like the political machine is really like working for them

(01:17:42):
or working to their benefit. I think that's why Donald
Trump has been able to tap into sort of that
populist political movement right now and sort of posturing and
pitching himself as being for the people and let's just
burn the whole thing down. I don't think that's the
right coach, And I in fact think that this campaign

(01:18:02):
that the administration is showing the intentionality in their approach
that they ought to. But I think it's important, and
what you're seeing is that the campaign if you're looking,
of course, I keep very close tabs on this.

Speaker 8 (01:18:14):
I was grabbing.

Speaker 17 (01:18:16):
I was connecting with the Vice president's head of coalitions
on the campaign recently, who's actually from Chris Scott, who
is from Detroit, I believe, and so we were talking strategy,
you know, throughout the course of our meeting.

Speaker 8 (01:18:30):
But what you're seeing is that you're seeing.

Speaker 17 (01:18:32):
States across the country the campaign is building out a
very robust on the ground states operation. That means that
although we're looking at the Vice president making a speech,
you know, in Atlanta, and then we're seeing her make
a speech in Detroit, that work is, you know, the
work goes on after sea leaves. You have really robust
state teams who are doing the work in each and

(01:18:54):
every one of these states to make sure that communities
on the ground feel that engagement even when a principle,
whether it's a president or VP, even when they're not there.
But what you're seeing on the other side, by contrast,
you know, Donald Trump claims, through all of his insulting
pandering to the black community that he wants to win
the black vote. Well, actually what you're seeing is that

(01:19:14):
his RNC, and I say his RNC because he hand
picked the leaders of the RNC, including his daughter in law.
What you're seeing is the Republican National Committee closing down
the minority outreach centers?

Speaker 9 (01:19:25):
No, yeah, yeah, absolutely right.

Speaker 17 (01:19:28):
That they claimed we're going to be you know, reaching
black and Hispanic and whatever voters, and along with doing that,
they're firing the people of color who are working there.

Speaker 10 (01:19:38):
Oh yeah, absolutely right. And I feel like as we
get to you know, have hop into this break. You know,
you're talking about these plans. We still have yet to
see a Trump economic plan, and so when we're talking,
we're looking forward to talking more about the Biden's plan.

Speaker 9 (01:19:50):
Definitely, we're going to talk a little bit more about that. Shortly.

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who has been traveling with the Vice President talking about
this Economic Opportunity tour.

Speaker 9 (01:20:57):
What's that Roland?

Speaker 28 (01:20:59):
Hey, folks, how you're doing?

Speaker 29 (01:21:00):
We literally just got a BAM force to returning back
from Detroit with Vice President Conald La Harris.

Speaker 14 (01:21:06):
Where she's quoting where she's spoke at the Charles Wright.

Speaker 29 (01:21:09):
Who's different African American history, focusing on economic empowerment, but
speaking specifically what the administration has done as relates to
African Americans. Uh, the Small Business Administration and Commerce Department
and all been involved with.

Speaker 30 (01:21:22):
That doing me.

Speaker 29 (01:21:23):
Here is the Deputy Administrator, Delli wars II, who's with
me a small Business Administration. Glad to have you here.
I'm going with Martin on coilched. One of the things
that we touched about on the plane. I asked you
the question about building capacity because it's one thing to
talk about small businesses. One thing talking about small business
was another thing to build capacity byble to grow those businesses.

Speaker 31 (01:21:45):
Colas Spa really focused on that. After thanks for having
met that for joining US and Dregon Detroit. I'm an entrepreneur,
so I can tell you plus hand having finished companies,
it's funky to start up business. It takes a lot
of effort and going through grow the business and then
eventually be able to get jobs.

Speaker 30 (01:22:03):
So we are very focused on making sure that we
have access to capital and there's the access to resources
and buildings ATAPY.

Speaker 31 (01:22:10):
For the second year in a row, we crossed one
for five billion dollars in SBA back knows to after
matter owned businesses.

Speaker 30 (01:22:16):
That's a record.

Speaker 31 (01:22:17):
You said that long ways to go because we have
systemic barrier that we are overcome that in their essentials community.

Speaker 30 (01:22:23):
But when it comes to us finances, we are in
the right path. Second, when there's a building capacity.

Speaker 31 (01:22:28):
There are sixty eight district offices spas across the nations,
including in the gain power in different Right here you
saw our people on the ground in this resource field.
The VP is breely that the whole of government, if
you will, the those steps for communities.

Speaker 30 (01:22:42):
Right, we're doing this kind.

Speaker 31 (01:22:43):
Of intentional output across the country, not just when she
shows up, also.

Speaker 30 (01:22:47):
When the rest of us travel are also locally re business.

Speaker 31 (01:22:51):
And the third is that you know, we also would
spand our partnerships. You know, we obviously have resource partners,
but we also start a publishing with Divine None, you know,
which has obviously created vision.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Of that community.

Speaker 31 (01:23:01):
You had Ron Busty, you had Rons Chamber introduced of
our stress. So he represents many black chambers and talks
of puntry view.

Speaker 30 (01:23:09):
We are parting with them making.

Speaker 31 (01:23:10):
Sure the folks flow how to get SVAT sources, mentory
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Speaker 30 (01:23:27):
They operate accelerators about the country.

Speaker 8 (01:23:29):
But of course we've spoken to I'll be in Georgia
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 31 (01:23:32):
Talk about how do you train after the American contract
us so that they can actually get the work past
order it and have access to the opportunities with Film Club.
But that's for the one of the things you mentioned
with the AA program.

Speaker 29 (01:23:45):
Obviously a number of program will be under attack the
Supreme Court outlaw in the back to how.

Speaker 30 (01:23:50):
The administrate admission.

Speaker 15 (01:23:52):
We had a lawsuit in Tennessee, UH that you also
apported the lawsuit of the jourgan the city out of
Texas right of the nd DA, UH and so so
talk about the AA program in terms.

Speaker 29 (01:24:02):
Of UH, is that still uh the primary avenue for
many black owned businesses? And how is that program? How
are you dealing with that that federal ruling out of
Tennesse cite.

Speaker 31 (01:24:14):
So, AIDA is one of the most important procurement vehicles,
if you will, for socially and economically disappointment entrepreneurs. That
includes African Americans that are Uncasian Americans, that includs out
of Americans, anyone that's veterans, women and social whoever has
had a social disadvantage.

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And that is something that we know. Man Incity has fished.

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The program is fully over.

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It is provided with the growth induction and our teams
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If anything, the program is going. You know, this president
is about this community.

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we are you know, following his leadership. So the President
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Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
One of the things one of the things that we
look at what happened during COVID and the present Ron
Buzzy spokes to the President's culture excuse me, the vice
president spoke to this snake. Forty one percent of black
owned businesses they went out of business as result because
of COVID, and part of that's because most of the
black businesses are un employee.

Speaker 6 (01:25:47):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
And so how how has the SBA worked kind of
bring back a lot of those businesses to bring them online.

Speaker 28 (01:25:54):
To help them.

Speaker 32 (01:25:55):
So, as we all know, COVID impacted afric Americans, you know,
factly disapportionately. And so that's why we have to be
very intentional when we think about when we're seeing growth
in entrepreneurship in the black community, we've seen thirty percent
rise since the president of office in terms of business ownership.

Speaker 14 (01:26:12):
That we build that capacity so it's not a solo entrepreneur, right.

Speaker 32 (01:26:17):
You know, frankly, often are numbers of black owned firms
that have employees are often businally small in state after state,
and so we have to make sure that we build
capacity to you know, where these firms.

Speaker 6 (01:26:32):
Can can grow.

Speaker 14 (01:26:33):
I'll give you an example.

Speaker 6 (01:26:34):
I was in Salt Lake City and.

Speaker 9 (01:26:35):
I met an African American baker.

Speaker 14 (01:26:37):
She started a business. We actually give it a price.

Speaker 32 (01:26:40):
She's doing very.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
Well, but she's by herself, and she told me she gets.

Speaker 14 (01:26:46):
Up in the morning at five am, she cleans the place.
She's the baker, she's a CEO.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
At night she cleans up.

Speaker 14 (01:26:53):
And this is not this is obviously story after story.

Speaker 32 (01:26:57):
So by making sure those entrepreneurs can act US loans
that previously quite frankly often will not.

Speaker 6 (01:27:02):
Within reach, they can probably think about.

Speaker 32 (01:27:04):
Working capital, investing in the team. So one of the
things that we are very proud of, whether it's PA
is we have streamlined the process to apply for a
small dollar loan.

Speaker 33 (01:27:13):
Not everybody needs a phone that k loan right right,
You may need twenty thousand dollars thirty K, forty kre
or ten k which be able to walk into an
SBA back bank or a regional bank and iFly that loan.
So we have now seen in the process you only
provide twenty pieces of information versus you know, a lot
of paperwork to make it simpler for you to apply
for a small loan.

Speaker 14 (01:27:35):
By making that change that.

Speaker 32 (01:27:36):
We did last year through our own you know, streaming
our process, we've seen small door lending go up twenty
percent in the first quarter fiscal year.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
But it reminds it.

Speaker 14 (01:27:47):
It is a reminder that when you have an intentional
policy right that that reflects our care for our people.

Speaker 34 (01:27:55):
You see the impact right certain long ways to go
to your point, so many.

Speaker 14 (01:27:59):
People bills went under.

Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
They want to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
These scenes are these such as coming in.

Speaker 14 (01:28:04):
But we also need to make sure they have.

Speaker 33 (01:28:05):
The capacity and the stories that I share with you,
the other stories are all.

Speaker 32 (01:28:08):
Across the country. I need to make sure they have
access to resources, access to you know, cours of assistance,
so mentorship they can actually build the businesses and go
ahead and have some scale.

Speaker 28 (01:28:19):
A couple more questions.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
One access to capital is one one thing. Access to
contracts is another. And I've used this example for myself.
I have a small owned business started with seven people,
spent three or fifty thousand dollars of our own money.
We've hit three million dollars in revenue last three years,
and I've been in the black. I've been popuble since
about twenty twenty. I don't need capital, I need contracts,

(01:28:42):
and so that's also a barrier there in terms of
being able to access those contracts.

Speaker 28 (01:28:48):
And so from a governmental standpoint, how have you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Been trying to clear some of that because under from
the previous administration, they've bundle lots of contracts and maybe
harder for small business folks to apply.

Speaker 28 (01:29:00):
Now you've unbundling. But the other thing is how you're
encouraging our corporations to also understand that, hey, when.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
You provide contracts, that's also capital.

Speaker 28 (01:29:09):
Correct.

Speaker 32 (01:29:10):
So the United States government in the world single largers
putting that a good news services.

Speaker 33 (01:29:14):
We spent seven hundred billion dollars a year on purchasing good.

Speaker 14 (01:29:18):
News services, right, and the President made.

Speaker 34 (01:29:20):
A solemn commitment, as you may know, on the.

Speaker 32 (01:29:23):
One hundred year anniversary of the burner of the Black
Wall Street.

Speaker 14 (01:29:26):
I was told, SA you were there.

Speaker 35 (01:29:27):
I was there, and he said, fifteen percent of all
of this spend will go to socialist wanted businesses, to
black vernent.

Speaker 28 (01:29:34):
Contracts sort of black women five.

Speaker 32 (01:29:37):
Now we did north of twelve percent last year.

Speaker 31 (01:29:41):
This year the target is thirteen.

Speaker 34 (01:29:42):
Percent next year, fifteen percent of all this government spent.

Speaker 32 (01:29:46):
To your point, how do we make sure that once
you get a contract and then the first you even
get a contract, right things we're doing it.

Speaker 30 (01:29:53):
I'm personally being very.

Speaker 28 (01:29:54):
Involved with this.

Speaker 36 (01:29:54):
Is to make sure that we direct our federal partners
to make sure that they're looking at small businesses or
the rule of two is a tenial term, but if
there are two or more small businesses that qualify for
a good and service to provide a freed feral government,
we should be.

Speaker 14 (01:30:10):
We are directing the federal agency.

Speaker 8 (01:30:11):
To now give them contracts.

Speaker 28 (01:30:13):
Right like, that number is up.

Speaker 32 (01:30:14):
So for example, this year it's a record that twenty eight.

Speaker 36 (01:30:18):
Percent of the entire field government spend went towards small businesses.
Because now we are intentionally intentionally directing these.

Speaker 14 (01:30:27):
Worker and small businesses.

Speaker 33 (01:30:29):
By the way, not just that, also making sure that
you actually get the task order right.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
You actually get the work.

Speaker 35 (01:30:35):
And that's why we're saying that if you have under
two and fifty k, those task corners will go exclusively
towards small businesses.

Speaker 8 (01:30:43):
Third, let me also bring up the point of actually.

Speaker 14 (01:30:47):
Performing well with contracts.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
I'm in a business owner myself.

Speaker 28 (01:30:50):
Getting a contract is only the first step. We got
to succeed with it, right, So we have training.

Speaker 32 (01:30:55):
We have relaunched our training coll Empowered to Grow.

Speaker 34 (01:30:57):
You now get one on one mentorship, an advice on
how to succeed on a contract, how to make sure
that's a reference of a customer so that you can
learn more customers, more.

Speaker 8 (01:31:09):
Contracts in the future.

Speaker 32 (01:31:10):
So look, it's all of these things together, and it's
some of the SBA coordinates across the federal government. We
do see a defense, DHS, EDCHS and others, and well,
we'll keep at it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
But one of the things that I know specifically, we
talk about black on media in Congressman Elma Holmes Norton.
Congressman Hank Johnson's being really aggressive on this because federal
government spids about a billion dollars, only one percent goes
to black on media and so part of the problem
that we have is knowing out of all of the agencies,
what advertising agency.

Speaker 28 (01:31:41):
Controls the contracts, knowing who to call, knowing who.

Speaker 14 (01:31:44):
To apply to.

Speaker 28 (01:31:45):
So a lot of the problems that we face in.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
The general sector of corporate America, the same thing happens
because the same agencies.

Speaker 14 (01:31:51):
Control the federal government.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
And so one of the things that I've suggest I
suggested to Don Craigan, who's the NBDA, I said, is
if the federal government creating essentially what is his own
like a fund, so let small businesses in Black on
Media know, hey, here are all of the this is
who controls the ad dollars for every single department, so
you know exactly who to communicate with, because frankly, it's

(01:32:14):
hard to actually discover that.

Speaker 28 (01:32:16):
And you know, you're talking again. It's a billion, it's
a billion.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Dollars spent and only fifty one million goes to black
all of Black on Media.

Speaker 28 (01:32:23):
So that's so that's one of those ideas. It's helpful
because frankly, it's hard knowing who controls what, who has what.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
So we're going to rule apply and then all of
a sudden, when then we find out, oh I'm gonna
been spent.

Speaker 28 (01:32:33):
Sorry, it's too late.

Speaker 35 (01:32:34):
Well, that's why we have to do better out treats, right,
and that's why we're doing this accelerated training.

Speaker 8 (01:32:39):
That's why we did what we did today in Detroit.

Speaker 34 (01:32:42):
We brought this resource fare in Metro Detroit, in downtown Detroit,
and of course.

Speaker 14 (01:32:47):
We got scared with the vice psit dren herself everywhere.

Speaker 35 (01:32:50):
But we are doing this an agency level I travel
or initiative travels. We bring these resources to people and saying, look, this.

Speaker 28 (01:32:56):
Is how you navigate government.

Speaker 8 (01:32:57):
This is navigate agencies.

Speaker 28 (01:32:59):
Because you're right, it's is challenge to navigate, right.

Speaker 14 (01:33:01):
It's a bureaucracy.

Speaker 35 (01:33:03):
But you know, when you believe in delivering for the
people and you believe in democracy, you want to bring
the resources to folks. And let me tell you there
is enough resource in the United States government.

Speaker 28 (01:33:14):
Issue is lack of awareness, right, and.

Speaker 9 (01:33:17):
That is in community after community.

Speaker 34 (01:33:19):
But we have to make it an eftwork, intentional effort
to see them.

Speaker 32 (01:33:23):
So when the President sets up a target of fifteen
percent using it, going for for it against the backdrop
of black.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Balls it burned one hundred years ago, that means something.

Speaker 14 (01:33:31):
That means that you have action plans.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Agency after agency that is not required to.

Speaker 28 (01:33:35):
Deliver on it like I'm part of.

Speaker 32 (01:33:37):
Delivered on right right, and so then we will.

Speaker 14 (01:33:39):
Do that outreach.

Speaker 8 (01:33:40):
So we're seeing it at numbers.

Speaker 32 (01:33:42):
We still have ways to go, just given historic barriers
in many in our community space.

Speaker 28 (01:33:46):
All right, well, look well Stow, I appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (01:33:47):
Thank you so much, an expert.

Speaker 28 (01:33:48):
Love to have you on the show. So appreciate it.
For one seconds of folks, give me a Second'm going
to go to break. We come back. I got to
switch positions for a bit. So we come back.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
We're going to play some of what the Vice President
had to say in Detroit today. You also hear from
Congress and Stephen Horsford as well as Quinton James of
course with Collective Pack he was there as well, and
so you'll understand exactly you know what took place of
there in Detroit today, folks. I'm rolland Martin here and
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All right, fol was welcome back to Rolladmartin unfiltered. I
had to move here inside off of the tarmac there.
It was quite a whirlwind day. We left Washington, d C.
Around eleven am, flying to Detroit. When we, of course
Vice President Kamala Harris as she greeted several officials, including

(01:44:23):
Angie Secretary, who was the former governor of Michigan. She
traveled with her on this trip. In addition to you
also of course had the deputy number two at the
Commerce Department, now Jennifer Grahnholme, was a former governor. Now
this video here is when we landed in Detroit. She

(01:44:45):
was met there by the US Trade Representative as well
as Lieutenant Governor of Michigan, Gil Chris and his wife
as well. And so that's how the day started. Then
we traveled to a black owned restaurant in Detroit, an
opportunity for the President see that the Vice President.

Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
To visit with them.

Speaker 14 (01:45:04):
It's Joe Lewis's Southern Kitchen, and so it was great
to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
A lot of Black Star Network fans there as well,
and so they of course greeted the owners of the restaurant,
and vice president had the opportunity to chat with several
different people, including this little young girl right here. When
she walked in, that was a huge ski weed that
went out. Her sorority sisters were there as well in

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the room, and so we had an opportunity to of
course see the folks there, and she also had opportunity
to speak with the owner of the restaurant to talk
about black owned businesses and talk about what some of
their issues and concerns are.

Speaker 6 (01:45:48):
Let's play some of that up in a second.

Speaker 14 (01:46:08):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
And so that we had some we had some audio
issues when we were there.

Speaker 14 (01:46:13):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
So I was recording on two different cameras, so we
got to back up. So guys, keep playing that video there.

Speaker 6 (01:46:18):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (01:46:18):
And so we're gonna just move forward.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
You're gonna have where we can hear some of that
conversation between the vice president uh and the owner of
the restaurant.

Speaker 14 (01:46:27):
So let me know when we have that, so it
should come up uh in.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
Uh in just a second.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
All right, So what we do is we actually what
we do, we'll post it on social media.

Speaker 6 (01:46:47):
We'll have that later.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
Now after we left there we then traveled to the
Charles Wright Museum of African American History, where a packed
room was awaiting the Vice President. We already played for
you some of the soundbites from various people whose folk
before for her, and of course we played Lieutenant Governor
Gilchris here is here is the former governor of Michigan,

(01:47:09):
as well as the Energy Secretary Jennifal Grant Home.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Since the President's Agenda was passed, the Department of Energy
alone has committed more than six billion dollars six billion
dollars in grants and loans benefiting Michigan. And that just
pales in comparison to what the private sector is doing
in Michigan, between the tax credits and the grants that

(01:47:37):
are happening. So in Michigan, just in the energy space,
we have seen fifty companies announced that they have come
or are expanding in Michigan to manufacture clean energy projects products.
Fifty companies that have said we are going to come
and hire people in Michigan, hiring more than twenty one

(01:48:00):
thousand people, twenty two billion dollars in investment, good paying jobs,
good paying jobs. You know, So as factories go up,
as cranes start to appear and people.

Speaker 8 (01:48:16):
Wonder, can I get one of those jobs?

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
So we are you know, for.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
Companies there's no shortage of a desire for talent, and
for folks out here, there is no shortage of talent.
So we got to connect talent and those who want
to hire folks. So as of today, I just want
to say, applications are open for a first of its
kind fellowship that will help ensure that local workers can

(01:48:45):
get those jobs. The program is called Readiness Accelerator for
Major Programs or RAMP, and what it is is the
connective tissue between a job provider who wants to for
a job and a worker who wants to get a job.
And we are asking for folks to apply for these

(01:49:08):
RAMP fellowships, and for those who might be interested, we
want you to go to Energy dot gov RAMP to
learn more and apply.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
All right, so listen, they are a lot more we're
going to play for this. I'm a congo is going
to handle this for me. So I have a slight
technical issue that I have to fix.

Speaker 6 (01:49:30):
So I'm a congo. You take it away.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
Will play the rest of the sound from the Vice
President visit today to Detroit and hopefully I'll be back
in about fifteen.

Speaker 9 (01:49:37):
Minutes, no doubt, Roland, It's got you, Julian.

Speaker 10 (01:49:41):
As we were listening to what was mentioned right now,
I was taking some notes, as I'm sure we are
all were, And one of the things that I heard,
which I feel like kind of speaks to what you
were saying about people who are not always doing the
entrepreneurial stuff, was that they were speaking about minimizing things

(01:50:02):
as it relates to paperwork in order to increase access
to opportunities to people that are on the ground and
not having to go through such rigorm morale just to
try to get various types of applications, whether it's for
various financial assistance or whether it's for some of the
economic programs for those who might be entrepreneurs. But what
was your general assessment of what you were hearing in
that interview with Roland?

Speaker 4 (01:50:25):
Well, first of all, I think he made a really
good point about minority business. Most minority businesses is their solopreneurs.
If you will, one person business, about eighty five percent
one person's business. We're not very different from majority. Most
small businesses are one person and so he made that
point when he spoke to the gentleman he was speaking

(01:50:48):
to outside the plane, and it's something we need to
pay attention to. But the other thing, I think Jennifer
grant Home actually brought my point home very clearly when
she talks about how investment turns into jobs. Again, you know,
I've spent a large part of my career right in
minority business. I think minority business is extremely important, and

(01:51:10):
there's a storied history of how we've been kept out
of some entrepreneurial opportunities. So it's an important focus. But
most people are not entrepreneurs, and most people are not
regardless of race. That it does not trickle down to
the worker, it doesn't trickle down to a number of

(01:51:32):
other things. So again I appreciated the interview Roland had.
I think that guy was with the Minority Business Development Agency,
but that was a good conversation. I think that I
like seeing Kamala in the Brothers restaurant, which I've been
two years ago. Great restaurant, good food, So I liked

(01:51:54):
her having the conversation. Wish we could have heard more
of it, but just the interaction aught at some level
make people pay attention. Yeah, we come to and I
know Gavin again, I'm going to push him on this
if I might. When we congo push Gavin as a
speech writer, as a writer, how do we connect these plans?

(01:52:15):
You talked about it earlier. You said, well, is that
just that they visited Atlanta Detroit ground war goes on
after that?

Speaker 10 (01:52:21):
Yeah, I want to get to I want to get
to that comment. I want to get to Gavin. But
before that, I just wanted to let's hear from Julie Sue.
I wanted to play her comments the Secretary of Labor
in America for workforce infrastructure.

Speaker 11 (01:52:35):
Made in America is not a slogan, it's an economic strategy,
and made in America means made by America's workers. We've
seen this right here in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (01:52:49):
We've seen it in Michigan.

Speaker 11 (01:52:51):
We've seen it with the auto Workers. Last year, through
their strength and solidarity, the United Auto Workers not only
reach a historic contract with twenty five percent wage increases
and improvements to health and retirement benefits, but also showed
what it's like when workers have a real seat at

(01:53:12):
the table, and when workers help to define the future
of an industry. They show that Native America is a
strategy that benefits both American workers and American businesses. Ensures
that we can protect our climate while growing good union jobs.

(01:53:35):
And we are here today to support a longtime iconic
American industry and set us up to lead in the
future by making sure we have a resilient and strong
supply chain that includes small and medium sized businesses.

Speaker 12 (01:53:52):
And we're workers who.

Speaker 11 (01:53:54):
Make profits possible, share in the prosperity. So, President biden
Investing in America agenda is about infrastructure. It's about roads
and bridges. It's about modernizing airports, it's about manufacturing electric
vehicle batteries. Our workforce system is also a form of infrastructure.

(01:54:15):
It's the roads and bridges that connect people to the
good jobs they want and need, and employers the people
that they want and need. But that infrastructure has some
challenges too. It's got some cracks, it's got some potholes.
It doesn't reach every single community the way that it should.

(01:54:36):
Too often people here workforce development and they just think
about training. No Black workers and other workers have been
left out, not because they lack the skills, but because
we have not built the roads and bridges that connect
all communities to the good jobs that we are creating.

(01:54:58):
We have to create a situation where economic opportunity is
broadly shared, and so we are going to fix that
this time.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
We're going to do it right.

Speaker 11 (01:55:07):
This time, in President Biden's and Vice President Harris's America,
we are building a workforce infrastructure that connects all communities.
That is the bridge from poverty to prosperity and from
racial exclusion to real equity.

Speaker 10 (01:55:28):
So Gevin kind of going off of what Juliana is asking,
and we heard from Sue's comments as well, talking about
these incredible programs, and then doctor Marvau also talking about
the messaging we've heard in the last half hour since
since Roland has touched down and has been sharing these stories,
so many powerful things, and throughout the show, you've been

(01:55:50):
hitting some of the things that have happened as relates
to Atlanta, where it is kicked off, as it relates
to messaging.

Speaker 9 (01:55:56):
I have a two part question for you. Number one, what.

Speaker 10 (01:55:59):
Does the Biden administration needs to be doing more to
get this message out?

Speaker 9 (01:56:03):
But then secondly, what is.

Speaker 10 (01:56:05):
Our role Because when we see a street and we
see a bridge being built, we can do to research
and find out who built it. Is all Biden's fault
that we don't know, like what's the role of the
average citizenry as well in terms of learning about what's
going on as well?

Speaker 9 (01:56:21):
Two part question for you, bro for sure.

Speaker 17 (01:56:24):
So I think on the first part, right, I think
the administration should continue to look to partner with influencers
on the ground.

Speaker 8 (01:56:30):
Right.

Speaker 17 (01:56:30):
I think influencer right now carries a connotation of being
like a social media sort of influencers, someone with a
bunch of followers.

Speaker 8 (01:56:37):
It doesn't have to be like that.

Speaker 17 (01:56:38):
What I'm talking about are trusted voices in communities. I
think mayors play a really crucial role. If you look
at a lot of polling data, it suggests that Americans
really trust their local government officials far more than they
do their federal government officials. And that means that I
think I've written about this before. Actually, I believe that
if the President, the VP, the other sort of leaders
across the administration can continue, and as they continue, because

(01:57:01):
they've been doing it, to continue to partner with local
trusted voices, be they mayors or nonprofit leaders, private sector leaders,
and communities across the country, I think that message will
really resonate and will register and then to answer the
second part of your question, what can we do? Look,
I think it's on us certainly to be tuned in
as to what our government is doing to deliver for us.

(01:57:22):
But I tend to put more of the onus on
the government. I think it's really their job to come
down and connect with voters on the ground. But I
think we certainly have a responsibility to stay plugged in
as to what's going on, to demand to demand that
our news media covers these stories. Because the news media
will cover certain stories in response to what they feel

(01:57:43):
like their readers want to learn about and know about,
and so I think it's on us to read those
stories so that the readership and viewership numbers can suggest
the news media companies that we do care about these issues.

Speaker 14 (01:57:56):
No.

Speaker 10 (01:57:56):
Absolutely, And I feel like when we're looking at this
is Julian, I feel like there's another aspect of it
that needs to be discussed as well. When people are
talking so much about the youth vote right and we're
talking about economic policies that are being put in position
right now, do you feel like when it comes to
young people and people that you're encountering, that people are

(01:58:18):
even going to be looking at this as something that is, Hey,
this is great now, but what does this have to
do with me in the future. There's kind of this
microwave society mindset that we're seeing where people are just
growing impatient with what they're not seeing in front of
them right now. Do you feel like this is something
that can help quell those concerns.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
I'm not sure. I think the youth vote is a
hard nut to crack. There are many young people who
are very highly motivated to vote. They get it. They're
looking at the Orange man they don't feel it and sots.
But there are lots of young people. Again, we've got
a great shop chasm, a great class divide in terms
of who is motivated and who is not. And I

(01:58:58):
get out of I keep picking on Pooky. I think
he one of my cousins, but you know, we want
to figure out how to get Pooky out to vote.
Pooky at this time is either indifferent, he might be
kind of leaning in either direction. He's not keeping up
with it, and so, Gavin, one of the things you
said that I won't say I'll take issue with, but

(01:59:19):
you said it's our responsibility. But who's responsibility? You know,
we know that the newspaper industry is shrinking. We're not
getting the news that we used to get. We know
that the media is space, the internet. Space is how
they polarized and biased, if you will, one way or another.

(01:59:40):
And so they say we you know what you be?
We black man? I mean who we are you talking about?
A lot of younger people don't read the newspapers. They
get their news from Foxing for someplace else. But I'm
not picking on them. I'm just saying we eliminated sics.
What I what I'm saying is I don't know what

(02:00:01):
it takes to get young people involved, but we have
to make that our clock.

Speaker 10 (02:00:05):
We are gonna definitely come back to that because I
feel like Gavin, I know you have a lot to
say on that. We want to go to a quick
break so we can keep some of this conversation going
and see what's more is going on in Detroit. We'll
be right back with the Black Star Network and Roland
Martin Unfiltered.

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Speaker 8 (02:02:48):
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Speaker 10 (02:02:49):
Martin Welcome Back to Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black
Star Network. Let's also hear what Ron Busby, Senior President
and CEO of the US Black Chambers Incorporated, have to
say as well.

Speaker 41 (02:03:06):
For many of us, the wealth gap has been a
conversation that we have had for hundreds of years. Our
Black families and white families have a huge difference between
the financial wherewithal.

Speaker 9 (02:03:20):
Of our communities.

Speaker 41 (02:03:22):
The only way you can truly find solutions is through
good policies, Policies that are intentional, transparent, and accountable.

Speaker 3 (02:03:33):
That's what today is all about.

Speaker 41 (02:03:35):
This administration is addressing these major challenges such as reviving
Main Street.

Speaker 3 (02:03:40):
America post COVID.

Speaker 41 (02:03:42):
You see, during the first three months of COVID, between
the months of February and April of twenty twenty, we
lost forty one percent of all black owned businesses. Roughly
four hundred and forty two thousand businesses closed, and when
we surveyed them, they said it was because of.

Speaker 3 (02:03:58):
Lack of capital and good information.

Speaker 41 (02:04:01):
This administration understood those challenges and because of the work
that they have done, over seventy five percent of our
businesses have reopened, gaining higher revenue goals than they have
received in previous years. But this administration is doing more.

(02:04:24):
They are also working to enhance workers' rights, reduce student
loan and healthcare ben of burdens, and promote affordable housing,
all issues that impact the Black community out of much
higher work. As I travel across America and visiting black
chambers and engagement with black business owners, the potential I
see is immense, yet often hindered by a lack of

(02:04:45):
necessary resources.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
That's why today's visit and.

Speaker 41 (02:04:48):
Announcements are so pivotabal. They reaffirm the commitment I've always
seen and Vice President Harris and this administration to prioritize
and uplift those often left behind, supporting entire communities and
business sectors like the auto industry. D E and I,
or what we call diversity, equity and inclusion are truly

(02:05:10):
under attack. And let me address it in this way.
It's not some mythological concept that's going on when they
talk about D E and I.

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
It's you and I that are under attack.

Speaker 41 (02:05:22):
This is being seen across the board from private sector,
public sector, including Corporate America Main Street, as well as
colleges and universities, as well as federal government contracting opportunities.
As these attacks continue to rise, we face threats of
stifled progress towards an inclusive economy while curtailing critical innovation.

(02:05:47):
As this year progresses, we are going to hear a
lot about making America great again. I can say that,
and I will also say that as a black business community,
we want America to be great as well. But we say,
in order for there to be a great America, there
must be a great Black America.

Speaker 10 (02:06:08):
And let's also hear from Vice President Harris also speaking
about economic opportunities.

Speaker 42 (02:06:14):
I believe that America's economy is powered by the ambition
and the aspiration of her people, the ambition and aspiration
to innovate, to create, and to prosper. Therefore, to grow
our economy, we must invest in that ambition and those aspirations.

(02:06:42):
I believe every person in our country then must have
access to the opportunity to compete, to succeed, and to thrive,
the ability to achieve what I call financial freedom, which
means having enough not just to get by, but to

(02:07:02):
get ahead, to be able to build a business, to
own a home, to start a family, and to create
intergenerational wealth, which is why over the past three years,
the President and I have invested now trillions of dollars

(02:07:23):
in America's infrastructure, in clean energy and a clean energy economy,
in manufacturing, and in supply chains. Our work is also
guided by the understanding that there are certain communities that
have faced historically and currently profound obstacles to acquire that opportunity,

(02:07:47):
and I'll tell you over the last three years, both
in the White House and at the Vice President's residence
where I live, I have convened black entrepreneurs from around
the country to solicit their advice and leverage their expertise
as to how we can have the greatest impact with
the billions of dollars that we are investing, and to

(02:08:11):
identify the challenges they face in building financial security and wealth,
including disparities in access to capital and lending, disparities in
home ownership and access to government contracts, to obstacles like
student loan debt.

Speaker 4 (02:08:30):
And medical debt.

Speaker 42 (02:08:33):
President Biden and I have invested hundreds of billions of
dollars to address these disparities, and I launched them this
national tour, the Economic Opportunity Tour to bring together entrepreneurs,
business owners, and community leaders together with representatives from the

(02:08:55):
United States Departments of Commerce and Energy and Housing and
Labor and Treasury in the Small Business Administration, and the
Undersecretary of the SBA is with us as well to
make sure founders and families have the information and assistance
to access the resources.

Speaker 9 (02:09:13):
They need.

Speaker 40 (02:09:16):
Now.

Speaker 10 (02:09:17):
During this time, Vice President Harris was also asked about
the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

Speaker 42 (02:09:25):
Okay, well, this morning I was on the call between
the President and Prime Minister Netyahho. We are closely tracking
what is happening on the ground and my team is
keeping me update and I have nothing further at this time,
but I'll keep you all posted if I have anything.

Speaker 12 (02:09:44):
Thank you, Thank you Chris.

Speaker 4 (02:09:52):
Right now, we'll get back into the y.

Speaker 9 (02:10:00):
Hip.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
I toltal to look for you.

Speaker 3 (02:10:15):
So so, folks, as you heard earlier, there was a
call this morning with is regularly Prime minis of Benjamin
that Yahoo as well as President Joe Biden.

Speaker 6 (02:10:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
The effort is trying to uh They're trying to keep
the ground operation from RAFA from happening.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:10:35):
And so they're trying to have a cease fire. So
the question is whether or not Israel and the mouse, uh,
we'll actually agree to that cease fire. So that's what
we're following. So lot the head back to the van,
so fly back, fly back to Detroit. So again, what
the effort is they're trying to actually uh prevent.

Speaker 10 (02:10:56):
This is something we are definitely going to continue to
be following. While Vice President Harris's ownership, she also had
a major economic announcement that she wanted to share as well.

Speaker 42 (02:11:07):
I am proud to announce we are investing one hundred
million dollars in small and medium sized auto supply companies,
many of which.

Speaker 8 (02:11:20):
Many of which are black owned and.

Speaker 42 (02:11:24):
Based right here in Michigan. These grants will allow businesses
to upgrade production and production lines to produce parts for
electric vehicles. I'm also pleased to announce the launch of
a new program that will match government backed loans with
private equity capital to help small and mid sized auto

(02:11:48):
suppliers access loans from a quarter million dollars to ten
million dollars. All The strength of America's economy is also
based on the strength of America's supply chains. We all

(02:12:08):
learned that in the pandemic, if we weren't clear before,
this investment will help to keep our auto supply chains
here in America, which strengthens America's economy overall, and keep
those jobs here in Detroit.

Speaker 10 (02:12:27):
So, as we wrap up, we've wanted to get some
final quick comments from you both. As we heard about
everything that's been going on today, it's been a jam
pag day. Devin, what are your final thoughts as it
relates to what we talked about today and what we're
seeing from Vice President Harris.

Speaker 17 (02:12:41):
Yeah, so I'm just extremely excited again that this tour
is happening. I think the fact that we're continuing to
see this intentional engagement with black communities across the country,
whether in Atlanta or in Detroit or the cities we'll
see the Vice President continue to travel to, I think
it's doing the real work of engaging with communities, of
educating them on the work that's going on, and ultimately

(02:13:04):
activating them to get out and vote in November. And
one quote that the Vice President shared with us today,
she said that we all know black entrepreneurs do not
lack for ideas or ambitions, but they often lack the
capital that is necessary to turn an idea into a
thriving business. And so I think that perfectly encapsulates. We
have a vice president, we have a president who gets

(02:13:25):
the problems facing our country, especially for so many black folks.
And doctor Marlville pointed out not all black folks are entrepreneurs,
certainly not. And so the work that this administration has
done to reduce costs, to create.

Speaker 8 (02:13:36):
Jobs, just the whole nine yards.

Speaker 17 (02:13:38):
I'm excited to see this tour continue and to see
the campaign the administration continue to form relationships on the
ground with black folks and to partner with trusted voices
to get this matches out message out there.

Speaker 9 (02:13:53):
Thank you, doctor malvel.

Speaker 4 (02:13:55):
I think that Gavin has said something important about trusted voices.
I mean, what we see, we see something that's thirty
thousand feet up. You're meeting with influencers, you're meeting with
the Lieutenant governor. I think it's great. I'm very excited
for the administration to see this Economic Opportunity Tour get
out there. But at the same time, the issue is

(02:14:17):
how does the message get down here on the ground.
How do we get to young people who are not
thinking about entrepreneurship, although many of them are and I'm
very excited about this generation and the fact that they
don't need permission, they don't need to pass They're just
going to go do what they do. So I love that.
But at the same time, in terms of upcoming election

(02:14:38):
just a few months from now, how do we get
the word out. There's got to be a all hands
on deck kind of conversation. This is indeed exciting, it's exciting,
and it's also you know, the Vice president. I watched
her come out and they ask her about the possible
cease far and she handle it. She can't say anything.

(02:15:01):
She's the vice president that people have to keep remembregation
the vice president. She's not the president. That stuff has
to come from the top down. This is an exciting
moment for the administration. I hope that she hits some
other major cities. She got to get herself to California,
into La. I know she'll do that. She's a former
California citizen, Saint Louis. You know, she's got to get

(02:15:22):
to these places. Houston. We're not gonna win Texas, but
we can make a dent in Texas, and there are
a lot of races that just at the top of
that's when we have to engage our young people. It's
not just the top, it's also those bottom races. From
the bottom up. We've got to look at city councilors.

(02:15:43):
We gotta look at mayors. Love them. Breed in San
Francisco is in a fight for her life, and there
are many others this is but this is an exciting moment.
I'm not gonna you know, I'm a critic, I'm a virgo,
so we're always a little critical, but I'm not gonna
take away from this enthusiasm. There is enthusiasm on this
tour and it's very good information getting out there. Go

(02:16:05):
back to Gavin. Influencers, influential voices, trusted partners who are
not the buckety Bucks, but the brother sister who has
a corner store and who could talk about what this
means to them.

Speaker 10 (02:16:19):
No, absolutely, and Blackstar Network is going to be along
for every step of the way. As everyone can clearly
see it rolling on the trip right now, and so
we appreciate Rolling for everything that you're doing.

Speaker 9 (02:16:28):
I want to thank you.

Speaker 10 (02:16:29):
Both as well, Gavin as well as doctor Malvau. We
really appreciate you joining us tonight. That's going to do
it for us here on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the
Blackstar Network Rolling. We'll be back tomorrow with more news
of the day and headlines. Please check us out on
all the social platforms. Watch that video makes you clicking
that like button and we will see you next time.

Speaker 8 (02:16:49):
Holla.

Speaker 3 (02:16:51):
Blackstar Networks.

Speaker 8 (02:16:55):
A revolution there right now.

Speaker 6 (02:16:57):
Thank you for the voice of Black americasne.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
We have now, we have to keep this going.

Speaker 7 (02:17:03):
The video of phenomenal is between Black Star Network and
Black owned media and something like CNN.

Speaker 3 (02:17:10):
You can't be black owned media and be scared.

Speaker 8 (02:17:13):
It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs, hold you
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