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6.9.2022 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: A Michigan prosecutor charges a Grand Rapids police officer with 2nd-degree murder for killing Congolese immigrant Patrick Lyoya in the back of the head during a routine traffic stop.

Houston, Texas police chief says Ben Crump lied about the gunshot wound Jalen Randle suffered from a cop.

The U.S. Justice Department launches an investigation into Louisiana's State Police as more evidence shows the agency turned a blind eye to troopers beating Black men, including the deadly 2019 arrest of Ronald Greene. I'll talk to his mother, Mona Hardin.

We'll preview tonight's primetime January 6th hearing.

The house passes a resolution condemning the great replacement theory.

And a California businessman is suing the U.S. Postal Service after it seized shipments of face masks bearing Black Lives Matter slogans. We'll talk to him and his attorney.

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June nine, two thousand and twenty two. Coming up on
Rolling Martin on the field to the streaming live on
the Black Star Network. Breaking news out of Maryland, another
mask shooting at a business. Three people are dead, so
is the guning. Will your the details on that particular story.
Out of Michigan, prosecutors are charging a Grand Rapid police
officer with second degree murder for shooting Congolese immigrant Patrick

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Liola in the back of the head during a routine
traffic stop in Houston. Police say Attorney Bancroft lied about
the gunshot wound of Jalen Randall, the one that he
suffered from a cop. Kromp actually represents his family as
well as the Elola family. The US Justice Department. They're
launching an investigation into Louisiana's state Police as more evidence

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shows the agency turned a blind eye the troopers beating
black men, including the deadly two thousand and nineteen arrest
of Ronald Green. Will preview tonight's Prime Time January six
hearing that Democrats say will be explosive and show America
exactly what happened when domestic terrorists tour part the US

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capital trying to overturn the election. In the House, they
passed a resolution condemning the Great Replacement theory children and
five Republicans vote against him. And the California businessman is
suing the U. S Postal Service after it seized the
shipments of face masks bearing black Lives Matter slogans. Will

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talk to him and his attorney. Folks, it is time
to bring the funk on rolland Martin unfiltered, little Black
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built the bestition though. He's rolled in Marte fire. Folks,

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breaking news out of Maryland where three people are dead
one person injured when a shooting took place at the
Smithsburg manufacturing facility. UH. For the first of all, law
enforcement officials are still putting together details exactly what took place. Again,
this is a factory in Maryland where again three people

(05:10):
were actually wounded. The suspect was shot at the scene
of this particular crime. And so it has been quite
a a busy day. We've had numerous mass shootings in
this country for the last uh a few weeks. Of course,
there was Buffalo that was Yourvaldy, Texas, and there were
shootings that took place in other parts of the country

(05:31):
as well. All of this is happening while Congress UH
is doing what they're doing when it comes to or
do actually not doing anything when it comes to gun control.
The House they've actually done their part. Unfortunately, UH we're
not seeing. Uh, we're not seeing. The Senate actually moved
on that as well, and so again, what what actually

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took place? Uh. There Again, the three people have been killed,
four others wounded. Uh in this particular uh shooting uh
in Maryland. So we'll give you more details as they
become available. As I said, police were shot, Police saying
suspect was shot at the scene. This is a photo
from the New York Post. Here shows you the facility

(06:14):
uh there where the shooting actually took place. Again, three
people are dead, uh, four people are wounded. Also, bit
is the shooter as well. Uh, Folks, we continue to
see lack of leadership in Congress when it comes to
gun and control, when it comes to legislation, what we're
seeing is that we're seeing a failure of Republicans to

(06:37):
stand up and do anything about guns in this country. Now,
supposedly they are negotiating with Senator John Cornyn and others,
but the reality is, UH, don't expect the Senator to
take up the bill those actually passed in the House. Uh.
The House passed a bill uh that would rage raise
the age uh two one to be able to purchase

(07:01):
a gun. Now, Mitt Romney, a Senator from Utah, he
has actually come out and said that he is in
favor of doing that. But remember, you still need Uh,
those sixty votes, those sixty votes in the Senate to
get anything done because you have two Democrats who will
not end the filibuster. Uh. And so, uh, this is

(07:23):
a story that's in Politico. Conservatives layoff Senate gun negotiations. Uh.
They're sort of laying low, not blasting anything because they
see what actually happens. Again, the House has already passed
their particular bill, but the Senate is not expected to
pass that particularly bill. I want to bring up my
panel right now, uh to talk about this because again,

(07:44):
what what we continue to see in this country. We're
seeing a failure of leadership here. Dr Larry Walker System Professor,
University of Central Florida, Reci Cobird found a Black Women
Views and Dr Grid Card Department of African American Studies
at Howard University. UM President Joe Biden was on Jimmy
Kimmel Show where they talked about twenty plus a minutes

(08:06):
and Uh, this is what Biden had to say about
whether he would use executive orders to deal with guns.
There have been what twenty seven shootings at schools, But
I guess I mean, just to get into it, why
haven't we done anything about this? Well? I think a
lot of us intimidation by the n RA. And look,

(08:27):
this is not your father's Republican party. This is a
MAGA party. It's a very different, a very different Republican party.
And and so you find people who are worried. I
believe that if they vote for rational gun policy, They're
gonna be primary and they're gonna they're gonna lose in
a hard right Republican primary to an executive order. Trump

(08:50):
passed those out like Halloween. Canus, Well, it isn't that
something that could happen. So I I've have issued executive
orders within the power of the presidency to able to
deal with these everything having to do with guns, gun ownership,
whether or not you have to have a waiting all
the things that within my power or what I don't
want to do. And I'm not being facetious. I don't

(09:11):
want to emulate Trump's abuse to the constitution and constitutional party.
And and so I mean not scesarily, because I also
get asked, look, the Republicans don't play it square. Why
do you play it square? Well, well, guess what if
we do the same thing they do, our democracy will
literally be in jeopardy. I'm not a joke, right, That

(09:34):
sounds find reacy, but in reality, what we are seeing
are Republicans in Congress who backed up what Trump did
when he was in the White House, and so they
wield power. They willed it, period. And you know what, Roland,
I would disagree with you when you say that the
Republicans are failing to lead. They are leading. The problem

(09:56):
is they're leading is obstructing any kind of progress and
actually radicalizing this in country, this country by rolling back rights,
rolling back protections, and every single state that they control,
this is not a hypothetical situation. They are racking up
wins after wins. So Republicans totally excel at leadership. The
problem is they are just at odds with what everybody

(10:19):
with a majority of this country leads. And so that's
what the Democrats have to realize. This is not in action,
This is obstruction that we're dealing with. And I don't
believe that they're scared of the n r A. This
is their fail safe. Republicans have been for decades leading
up to this moment. They are preparing for a time
where there are white voting electorate is going to be

(10:43):
the minority in this country, and so they're doing everything
in their power to disenfranchise, to jerrymander, to take away
as many rights as possible, to pack the courts. They
did that with Trump, a meccanical McConnell. And all we're
doing right now is playing defense, playing catchup and trying
to stop the bleeding. And unfortunately we just aren't being

(11:03):
as forceful enough as we should be. I understand the
limits of presidential power, but it rings a little hollow
when you talk about our democracy dying. If you do
what Trump did, our democracy is already dying. It's dead
for many people in many in many states. In Louisiana
they have to redraw the map. But guess what in
Florida their map stands that has taken away to black districts.

(11:26):
And so I definitely challenge the notion that there's some
nobility and trying to keep up the norms when the
Republicans have said, to hell with it, we are going
vols to the walls. We're gonna pull out every stop
until we're back in power completely. And when we are
back in power, you can kiss this whole called thing
called democracy. Goodbye what we have called democracy, because that's

(11:46):
really what it is. It's just a label at this
point instead of a real institution. And so wake up,
wake up to the situation. If you have an executive
order and it gets batted down, so be it. Deal
with it when it comes. But this, this, this lack
of ability to push the envelope is going to just
continue to to to rack up more losses and further

(12:07):
disillusion people who are looking to the Democrats to do something.
And you can, you can explain the nitty gritty about
civics and this power and this branch and that branch,
but that message is not resonating with the with the
with the large swath of this country that you need
to turn out in the polls. In November, Larry Recy
mentioned Florida and that particular point there we're going to
round to. Santa said at the hill with what what

(12:28):
the legislature was doing, he would he would draw his
own maps. Republicans control the Supreme Court there, and so
the Republicans that control the legislature, and so when you
control all levels of power, you can do what you want.
And we see the Forlida Supreme Court said yes, his
districts will stand, his maps will stand. An interesting thing

(12:48):
about that rooly is it's inconsistent with the state Constitution.
But you know, recy talked about, you know, in terms
of power plane you referenced it before. It really doesn't
matter what laws have been passed previously. This is strictly
a power play. So you talked about what's happened, you know,
obviously happening in Florida and the current matt and essentially

(13:09):
negating a black congressional district. And then obviously we continue
to extend and talk about the lack of effort, particularly
obviously in the Senate in terms of, you know, try
to try to hopefully identify some kind of comprehensive bill
that addresses the issues of mass of these mass shootings
in the United States. But I'm not hopeful anything this
is going to happen. I also want to connect it

(13:30):
to what President Buyden talked about in that in that
TV interview, and I've said before about that he's often
too nostalgic and he needs to really put some you know,
put his own put on some boots and really get
to work enforcing folks to do the work that needs
to be done. He talked about not trampling on the
Constitution and no one's asking him do that. What they

(13:52):
want to do is see is you know, since the
beginning of its presidency is more more a sense of urgency,
and obviously gave it, you know it gave a speech
last week, which is important. But we really need to
see the whole hold the you know, congress members, not
members of Congress, members of the Senate, hold their feet
to the fire in terms of passing comprehensive gun reform,
because what we'll do rolling every week when we come together,

(14:15):
we'll be having these conversations about these mass shootings. Obviously
the one you described to Maryland just happened within the
last hour and a half or so. But this is
tiring and we need the work to get done. Also,
let's remember that we have an election in November, and
President Biden's poll numbers are in the tank, and we
were likely to see a switch in the House, some
changes in the Senate. So we really need to get

(14:37):
something done. Like I said a few minutes ago, we
he really needs the whole you know, and obviously Republicans
but also Democrats to democrats you described to change the
filibuster so we can get some work done, not only
in terms of gun reform. But obviously in terms of
passing that John Lewis act. Well, here's the thing here,
uh Greg to to Larry's point, Bid, he was talking about, Oh,

(14:58):
this is not the republic your dad's Republican Party, your
grandfather Republican Party. Guess what you better be living in.
So again there's this marketing back to what it used
to be that is gone. It is gone. I mean,
it's sort of like when somebody's wife or husband leaves
them and you're like, yo, they ain't coming back. And

(15:21):
you can sit here and flip through albums and look
at pictures and old videos, but that life you had,
that's gone. And so it seems that, you know, Biden
is still sort of hoping that something magical and mystical
happens to where it returns. And even before Trump got there,
the Freedom Caucus was there. Before that, the Tea Party

(15:43):
was there. It ain't been the Republican Party when he
was the vice president for Obama. So broad that was
two thousand nine. It's been thirteen years. You might want
to wait to hell up, that's right. And before all
of them, the Spanish came before that, the English came
before that. It was George Washington before. In other words,

(16:06):
there was never a time we shouldn't be looking backward
at all. This is a violent enterprise. While these folks
were being shot and several of them killed in Maryland,
about semi five miles north of Baltimore and New Pennsylvania border,
we were taping um a June teenth edition of The

(16:26):
Black Table with Gerald Horn. You know, our brother Gerald Horne,
who is just I don't know how he does it,
just produced a six hundred page book called The counter
Revolution of eighteen thirty six where he's talking about Texas.
He opens the book with a long discussion of violence,
with the attempt to exterminate all the indigenous people of
the place and to enslave Africans way past June nineteenth,

(16:48):
eighteen sixty five. Now, what what does it have do
what we're talking about right now. It has everything to
do what we're talking about right now, because what the
White Nationals Party doesn't grasp because they don't really look
at history, is that they can pass all these laws.
And I think recent just gave us a very succinct
and brilliant layout of what's going on. But there are

(17:08):
unintended consequences. What the hell do you think is going
to happen when you rip up any notion of legal protections.
The Supreme Court is getting ready to overturn a New
York state law that's over a century old that's going
to make it very easy to walk around in New
York City with guns. And when that happens, California is

(17:28):
going to be faced with an issue. They're about seven states.
Maryland is one of them that have strict gun control
laws that are going to be attacked after the Supreme
Court does its work. That packed Supreme Court the reci
just talked about. Now, California is one of those states.
They're about a hundred and twenty thousand Californians with concealed
carry permits. But you know where most of those people are.

(17:51):
San Bernardino, Shasta Fresno are in Sacramento and Current counties,
and you've got law enforcement officials there because it's up
the discretion of law enforcement officials to give give out
those those permits, who are handing out applications to people
to apply l A in l A County, which is
about a quarter to population in California, they have less
than half of one per cent of all the concealed

(18:12):
carry permits, and there too too, according to a recent
New York Times article, in the whole city of San Francisco, Now,
what does that do? It all? What we're talking about,
there's a culture of violence here. The culture of violence says,
exterminate anyone who doesn't look like you to protect whiteness.
That is the history of Texas and in many ways,
the history of the whole criminal enterprise called United States
of America when they consolidate power, and the white nastist

(18:34):
Party has done that. I mean, we see that effectless
Google out of Kentucky saying that you must protect Brett
Havanaugh at all costs. Damn those children, and of all day.
And you know, hey, I'm very happy about that because
you see what is happening at this point is they
think somehow that the rest of us respect the law
more than they do. That is a tragic mistake. If

(18:58):
no one else understands power in this country, it's black Americans.
So the minute you take away all of the barriers
to prevent people from getting guns, guess who then said, well,
let me go get my gun. It ain't gonna be them.
White people already got them in five counties in California
already talked about it's gonna be them cast to say.
I don't know about politics, but all I know is

(19:19):
I gotta protect myself. I should say one the thing.
I spent the morning with some students from Minneapolis and St. Paul,
some high school students who are in town. And I
have my mask on, and I asked them, it's Minnesota
safe because you were talking about you know, mere Lock
and George Floyd, and one of the young uh guys
said it's middle school safe. Then they all started laughing
because they couldn't hear me through the mask. But that

(19:41):
opened up a conversation. Yeah, how terrified young people are
in this country right now of loud sounds of arguments
they here going on, and they talked about how they
don't feel safe in this country. Well, guess what, how
long before the parents of those young people say, we
don't feel safe, so maybe we should start shooting first,
since the police shoot first and in seeing the consequences,
You're not gonna win what you think you win by

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ignoring the rest of us. Uh. Indeed, polks gotta go
to break we come back. We're gonna talk about the
kids out of Michigan, where a cop being charged with
second degree murder. He has already turned himself into authorities. UH.
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at Morrow March on Washington, d C. June eighteen twenty two.
And we're rising up to demonstrate the compelling power that

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we poor and low income people have to reconstruct society
from the bottom up. And we need to do it
with the loudest voice as possible, the biggest access possible,
because we know that there is no scarcity in this land.
The only scarcity is the moral will to do what's right.

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Just we are those with sub minimum wage shops who
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wage to people with disabilities. There are still so much
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We can't get a decent wage to sustain ourselves, nor
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the next day. Health is a political choice. What more
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forces in denial that would try to slow walk our
transition to a clean economy and a just future for
us all. We have an immoral system run by moral people.

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But together we walk, and we walk and we fight.
It's time for see we are people of resilience as
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the voiceless, and we become an agent of change in
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all people can have the right to live and to thrive.
We know what they are doing, but the question is

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what are we going to do? Reconstruction begins when we
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get your foot and for my neck blood. TV does matter,

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dang it? Hey, what's up your autiship board? Jacob Latimore
and you're not watching Rolling Market right now, m folks. UH.

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The District attorney in Uh, Michigan today announced charges for
a cop who killed Congolese immigrant Patrick Lyle Kent County,
Michigan pro Secutor Chris Becker. It's charging the white officer
with second degree murder. Now, folks, remember Leo was shot

(26:08):
in the head UH doing a routine traffic stop. We
showed you the video. We had his family members on UH.
And again that was a scuffle there with Liola tried
to step away. This took place in April. The prosecutor
announced the charges today against Grand Rapperts officer Christopher Sure,

(26:28):
weeks after this took place. Detective Sergeant Aaron Tuobergan really
did an excellent job. He's done everything I requested abou him,
even though some of the follow up and so it's
made a difficult situation obviously a little bit easier to
have a partner that you can work with. Based on
his investigation, based on everything he has provided to me,

(26:51):
I've made the decision to charge Christopher Sure with one
kind of second degree murder. Second agree murder is a
felony offense is punishable by up to life in prison
with the possibility of parole. Um. As it stands now,
this is merely an allegation, and it has with any defendant.
He has presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable

(27:12):
doubt in a court of law. The elements of secondary
murder are relatively simple. First, there was a death, a
death done by the defendant. And then when the killing occurred,
the defendant had one of these three states of mine
and intend to kill, and intend to do great bodily harm,
or the intent to do an act that the natural
tendency of that act would be to cause death or

(27:34):
great bodily harm. And finally, that the death was not
justified or excused, for example, by self defense. Taking a
look at everything that I reviewed in this case, I
believe there's a sufficient basis to proceed on a single
account of secondary murder, and that charge has been filed
with the courts as of today. Um. It is always

(27:56):
uh surprising h to us greg when this actually happens,
because oftentimes, um, you know, district attorneys look out for
police and I keep saying this for all these people
out here, and I see these people post stuff on
social media in chat rooms and others. Uh Man, all

(28:17):
this marching and protesting, all this stuff does not mean anything.
I can guarantee you the fact that we have seen
in the past several years an increase in police officers
who are being charged with murder, who are going to trial,
is a direct result of people going to the streets
and demanding accountability. You're absolutely right, roman Um. For anyone

(28:42):
who may have incidentally seen some of the testimony in
recent weeks before the Grand Rapids, uh their equivalent of
the City Council, it's been quite striking citizens of all backgrounds,
all races and cultures. I watched this young teenage, young
lady who was at the microphone testifying with a number

(29:04):
of her classmates behind her. She happened to be of
African descent, but there were a number of students behind
her who were not, and they blistered that city council,
I mean blistered it. And so you know, if anyone
can say, well, that doesn't make any difference, Oh no,
you just go look at some of that testimony, Go
look at someone the people said, they said, we're we're
fed up, We're not gonna have it anymore. In seventeen

(29:26):
that Grand Rabbits Police Department handcuff from eleven year old
at gun point. Later on they had five teenagers at
gunpoint as well during that same year, and in twenty
they shot a one of somebody shot a protester. One
of the cops. Paterollers shout a protester in the face
with a gas canister. Now, is that is that outlined behavior? No,
the Paterollers have license of kill to kill and they

(29:47):
will hunt. Now, you know the prosecutor in this case,
certainly the charges there, any reasonable finder of fact should
be able to convict that person. But we know the
pat roll and may get off. But the point you're
making is point to be made. These people will move
as more and more of us move to end this.
I would encourage people to go look at some of

(30:08):
that testimony before the Grand Rapids City Council. You know
this is why again, Um, you know, uh, Larry, we
talk about pressure. We talked about why that is important. Uh.
You know, it was very interesting uh seeing this here
where you had uh, you know, Kevin McCarthy on the
floor of the U. S. House yelling and screaming for

(30:31):
Democrats uh to do something about a bill that Senator
John cornyn Um put forth dealing with security uh for
U S Supreme Court justices, and Uh. The thing that
I found the interesting was, um M, you're demanding people

(30:51):
move now, but you had no sense of urgency to
protect citizens from cops with the George Floyd Justice Act.
You're demanding people move now to provide security for nine
Supreme Court justices, but you're blocking gun legislation. And so

(31:12):
I'm gonna play this and I want you to come
in on. They listen to this show, let me see um,
let me go ahead and get this uh reconnected, Uh,
because it's just been so striking uh listening to these folks.
Go ahead, now, you should playing the House. Democrats are
leaving today. They want to leave for a long weekend.

(31:34):
That gave tomorrow back. I spoke to the Majority leader
this morning. I've told him nobody on this side would
object a unanimous consent. He could run that bill on
the floor right now and send it to the President
so we could protect the Supreme Court. How many times

(31:54):
do they have to be threatened? How many people have
to be arrested with a gun outside their home? What
would have happened had he not called nine eleven? He
didn't just have a gun, he had zip ties. But
somehow you want to leave this bill could be on
the President's desk right now. And so COVID SOCA the

(32:17):
George floor Justin's Act, had House Republicans not voted against it,
had to sit in not blocked it. So let's give
let's give him an oscar, because that's all that's it's
just performance. Listen, when black folks kilm Buffalo, I didn't
see McCarthy go to the House floor and demand that

(32:37):
we passed that we do something about the white supremacist
that killed all those black bolls. In fact, most Republicans
voted against. All but one Republican voted against the bill
to deal with domestic terrorism that was passed after the
Buffalo shooting, including Kate McCarthy. And and and that's the message, right,

(33:00):
we care about Supreme Court justices, but we don't care
about the lives of children killed in Texas, of black
folks killed in Buffalo. So we see where the priorities live. Yes,
obviously in our understanding importance of reason and concerns regarding
the Supreme Court justices, but the bottom line is ruling.
We just had another mass shooting today in Maryland. So

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what is McCarthy prepared to do about the lives throughout
the United States that will be impacted by gun violence
obviously not just mass shootings, but we see other elements
of bolence gun violence and committees throughout the United States.
What is he? What? What? What's the plan? This is
all show voting because obviously, like you said, rolling when
it comes to you know, when it came to Republicans

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having the opportunity to um highlight white supremacy is not
it's not something they believe in or support. They didn't
do it. When they had an opportunity to support comprehensions
gun reform, they didn't do it. So one again we
see where the priority's lives and not only mcarre people
the Republican Party, but we need once again, this is

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why important and continued apply pressure from voters to make
sure that folks wake up and realize that if we
don't force the Reublican Party to change their perspective on
guns and violence in the United States, that will continue
to see photos of children of various people from various
backgrounds seeing slaughtered and then it will continue over and

(34:30):
over again. And I am certainly as one person tired
of seeing these montages of of of lives loss. And
this is why racy they must be confronted at every turn.
This is why I believe that the families of people
killed by police should call UH for their own White
House meeting and should call them President Biden to tell
Senator Tim Scott and Sara Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell

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and publican leadership to meet him there and look look
them folks in the eye and explain why they have
not moved on George Floyd Justice Act. And he Here's
the whole piece I told I perfectly agree with security
for public officials, whether whether their Supreme Court justices or
a leadership of the House incident at the White House,
but how about you have the same vigor to protect

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American people. Well, they won't have the same vigor because
what they want to do is insulate themselves from the
radical lurch that the Supreme Court in particular is pushing
this country forward. I mean Justice so to Major in
her dissent on on on a on a case that
was Supreme Court ruling that came out I believe it

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was yesterday, talked about how the right wing court is
remaking itself and remaking America to the point to where
border agents can go in without a warrant and beat
the ship out of people and you can't sue them.
You have no recourse about it. And so what Republicans understand,
like Kevin McCarthy, understand the urgency they have around this
is the fact that the Supreme Court is sitting on

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a lot of very radical visions that they haven't released
yet because the pr from it would look horrible to
say that you don't have to have concealed carry permits
when kids are being slaughtered in schools, and when you're
basically undoing any kind of protections that even the states
can impose on their own citizens. The Supreme Court is embarrassed,

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but they're not shamed enough to ever do the right thing.
And so that's what the urgency is about here. But
guess what when you don't want to protect people around
the border within a hundred miles of a border, which
is I believe the population was what I read. When
you don't want to protect black people from getting killed
by the police, When you don't want to protect children
from being slaughtered in schools, and and and elders from

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shopping and grocery stores that you can go to hal
in a handbasket. You can be in the same boat
as the rest of us. So I'm not for violence
against Supreme Court justices. I'm not saying that in any way,
shape or form. But what I'm saying is, if there's
a backlash, it's a backlash that you brought upon this country.
And you don't get to sit in your and your
ivory tower and watch everything go to flames. You're gonna

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be down here in a in the trenches with the
rest of us dealing with the fallout. UH. Firks, Folks,
that particular UH police officer, as I said, turned himself
uh into authorities. He is set to be arraigned UH
to morral secondary felony murder is an offense punishable up
to life in prison without the possibility of parole. And

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so we will certainly see what happens next. Now being
a crumpt is representing the family in that case. Uh.
Now the Houston Police chief is calling out Ben Crump,
who's representing the family of Jalen Randall who was shot
and killed by cops there. The chief says that Crump
made false claims regarding the death of Randall. Chief Troy
Finners at the official autopsy results are pending, but preliminary

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results indicate there was one gunshot wound to the front
of Randall's neck. Here's a statement that they released, UH
released about the independent autopic of results being released by
Krupp UH and then the chief says, this afternoon, I
met with several community leaders to brief from on false
information being released regarding the fatal incident involving Mr Randall
with respect and understand emotions and pain UH that families, UH,

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the families who have lost loved ones go through during
these investigations. Having said that the family attorney been Mr
Ben Crump without respect as an advocate for justices, claiming
Mr Randall was shot in the back of the head.
This is a false statement. To publicly make such a
false claim as irresponsible while official all typic results are pending,

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Plan A results indicate there was one gunshot wound to
the front of Mr Randall's neck. UH. Mr Crump and
his team had publicly say did and use a diagram
to indicate the gunshot wound was to the back of
Mr Randall's neck. Well, this is only one component of
a comprehensive investigation. It is necessary to correct the mis information.
I take everyone in our communities and not rushed to

(38:58):
judgment and wait for the instigations to be complete. Now,
we did reach out today to have try to get
Ben Crump on today's show, but unable to uh to
book him, and so we certainly will continue to do that,
uh to try to reach him. I actually will be

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in Los Angeles tomorrow with Ben Crump uh and his
organization because they have their Equal Justice uh now awards
taking place tomorrow at there are a number of people
who are going to be honored uh and I am
one of those folks who would be honored uh with
their excellence and Broadcast Journalism awards. And so uh yeah,

(39:41):
I'll be talking to being tomorrow, so hopefully we will
get his reaction uh to this. Now, the Randall family
says they want the officer who pulled the trigger to
be in diet it to be in diet it now.
This is also the statement that the Randall's release. Shortly
after Jayleen was killed, we spoke directly to him ergency
medical professionals who told us that Jalen was shot in

(40:03):
the back of the neck ran, her parents said in
the statement. The funeral home director told us specifically that
there was no bullet wound in the front of the neck,
only the back. As a family, we have been trying
to find peace since Jaalen was killed. It is extremely
difficult to find peace when the very people who executed
Jalen are seeking to discredit us and the people who
have been helping us advocate. And so again we will

(40:23):
be following this story, UH through its conclusion. All right, folks,
got to go to a break. We come back. The
Department of Justice. Uh. They are launching an investigation into
the Louisiana State Police for their actions when it comes
to the killing of black men, including including Ronald Green.
Will tell you that and show you some of that

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Call you watching Roland Martin Unfiltered UH. The US Justice

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Department Civil Rights Division they're opening a sweeping civil rights
investigation into the Louisiana State Police. Assistant Attorney General Christian
Clark made the announcement earlier this morning. There are other
reports of unwarranted force after pursuits involving the use of
tasers and blows to the head. Our investigation will be

(44:55):
thorough and comprehensive. This marks the first statewide pattern or
practice investigation of a law enforcement agency that the Justice
Department has opened in more than two decades. The investigation
will also involve unprecedented cooperation among the Civil Listigation and

(45:18):
all three United States Attorneys Offices. Sold is to promote
transparency and accountability, which ultimately will increase public trust. I'll
note that this investigation marks the seventy fifth investigation of
a law enforcement agency conducted since Congress entrusted the Department

(45:41):
of Justice and Coley the Department of Justice with the
authority to conduct pattern or practice investigations of law enforcement agencies.
We take this responsibility seriously. Every American, regardless of race,
has the right to institutional policing, and we know constitutional

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policing is necessary to ensure public trust and to en
pants public safety. Now, the investigation comes amid mounting evidence
that the agency has looked the other way in the
face of beatings of primarily black men, including the two
thousand nine deadly arrest of Ronald Green. The announcement of

(46:26):
a pattern or practice a probe comes within three years
after white troopers were captured on along with held body
camera video, beating, stunning, and dragging Green on a rural
roadside near Monroe, Louisiana. No one has been charged in
the case. Um Mona Harton, Ronald Green's mother would be
on the show tomorrow. This is something that RECYE. A

(46:49):
number of groups have been calling for this investigation. UH. Normally,
what happens when things happen on local level, they called
in the state police. But in this case, UH, they
can't trust the state police. The governor has been UH
interrogated in terms of when he was made aware this
particular case. They initially told Ronald Green's family that he
died in a car accident and the truth came out.

(47:09):
We've seen story after story. But again, let me say
why elections matter. For all the people out there who
keep posting nonsensical stuff saying, oh, black people have not
gotten this and Biden has not done that. Let me
remind everybody who runs their mouth, who listens to idiotic
people on social media who were saying that Biden is

(47:31):
the same as Donald Trump, and that is this. The
Trump administration made it clear they do not they do
not want to investigate police departments. They made it clear
they do not want to look into them because they
said it was herding the morale of police. And you
have seen more and more, uh more and more examples
coming out of the Civil Rights Division, now led by

(47:54):
Christian Clark, of this administration holding correctional officers, holding lease
departments accountable, and holding individuals who can who commit hate crimes.
We've seen people who have been charged, folks who have
been convicted. And so the reality is this. There's no
doubt in my mind that if a Republican president was

(48:14):
sitting in the White House, you would not have this
announcement today. So shout out to Kristin Clark. She's been
doing a really phenomenal job. And you know, I remember
a lot of these representation doesn't matter kind of debates
people had people where there was white progressives. Are black
people aligned with the white progressives. But I think Kristen

(48:34):
Clark is a prime example of why it matters that
we have somebody like us who's for us and by
us in this position. This is the actual fifth pattern
and practice investigation that's that's been launched by the Department
of Justice. They're doing one on Minneapolis, They've done They've
launched one on on Phoenix, Mount Vernon, New York, uh, Louisville,

(48:56):
and now we have Louisiana. And the thing that's um
really rare about this this is the first state wide
patterner and practice investigation over two decades. So this is
not something that's very common. And you know that happened
that it looks like it looks like FROs recently still there? Yeah,

(49:18):
can you hear me? Now? Now we got you go ahead,
you froze there and go ahead, Okay, Yeah, So yeah,
I was saying that this is the first time they're
doing a statewide investigation in two decades. All Right, we
had some issues with Reese's connection let me go to
Larry Mr Roland. I was after I was in Baltimore
after Freddy Grave's murder, and obviously they had the pattern

(49:41):
of practice of investing probe and eventually signed a decree
with with the City of Baltimore. And I think one
of the things in terms of why these investigations important
is they found in terms of their investigation that you know,
black men in Baltimore City were being stopped repeatedly and
now felt and I found to have anything, you know,

(50:01):
that was illegal. So if anything else, and like I said,
there would have been conversations about how effective these you know,
if there's a uh consider degree to sign, how affective
they are. But I think these investigations are important because
it identifies corruption, hopefully roots it out, and it will
force the State of Louisiana make changes. It shouldn't take
several years after we have clear video of black men

(50:23):
being lynched um on a highway for them to do
anything about it. So I congratulate the o J from
doing this. As you highlighted ruling, They've been consistent in
terms of investigating you know, various jurisdictions that are obviously
not doing what they're supposed to do in terms and
making sure the civil rights of citizens are being met.
And once again, I think this is important. I think

(50:44):
they can, they should continue to do this and hold
people responsible because once again, it's tiring to consistently see
black people being being killed on roadsides or anywhere else,
and we have to finally do something about it. So
these trobes are really in court once again, it will
provide a lot of statistics about how black folks are
disportionately stopped in Louisiana. I found that that black people

(51:07):
make up about a third population, but there twice more
than twice likely to be stopped or being got engaged
in some kind of assault by police officers. And that's
that's ridiculous. So I'm glad, like I said, this proof
is gonna be conduct and hopefully they'll get to the
bottom of this issue. And Greg, keep in mind what
you heard Lary just say, they're Uh. It was the
Trump administration when they came in Jeff Sessions, they wanted

(51:28):
to get rid of that consent to create in Baltimore,
and it was Baltimore that fought forward. Uh, and the
federal judge that absolutely not. We're moving forward. And so
again for the people out there who say, oh, this
is no big deal. No, it is something that is important.
Because for all of these people who say that, guess what,
you ain't speaking for Ronald Grain's mama. You're not speaking

(51:52):
for the people in the cities in Louisville, Brianma Taylor's
mother or her relatives. And so it amazes me when
when listened to these people who say, oh, this is
this is uh nothing, this is performative. Well, you ain't
gonna love one who's been gunned down, uh, And the
cops lied to you. So I don't really give dan

(52:13):
what you have to think what we're wrong. Let's say
it is performative. Let's say it is performative. The video
you show with our sister Kristin Clark there flanked by
those three brothers. If if we certainly don't see what
the optics are, guess who does every white nationalist in

(52:33):
this country. You see, Mary Garland is an underwhelming attorney general.
But in this case, what we're seeing here, look at
those black people standing there. Now, see those black people
have the added benefit of being something that in this
country is far too rare. They are what's the word,
Oh yeah, the law. Do you know how much fear

(52:56):
that this is exactly what white nastals have been fighting
against since they started this criminal enterprise. Now, in the
case of Louisiana, you're absolutely right, rolland you're you're not
Aaron Larry Bowman who got hit eighteen times with a
flashlight by this cop Jacob brown Um, who has tally
twenty three used to force violations for Louisiana State Police

(53:18):
as nineteen of which have been black people. So you know,
on the ground and makes a big difference. And you
know it's funny. We just passed Prince's birthday this week,
so you would have been sixty four. And we all
remember when Prince came to Baltimore performed his song Baltimore
in the wake of what happened to Freddie Gray and
the uprising it took place there, and we all went
up to Baltimore, and I know we will never forget

(53:41):
seeing every kind of police vehicle takes horses on the
damn freeway. Where did all these damn police come from?
But you know what they faced, They met thousands, tens
of thousands of people in the streets of Baltimore that
said enough is enough. You know. So, I mean, at
the end of the day, none of the societal problems

(54:03):
we have are going to be solved overnight. And this
is a long distance struggle. It isn't one election cycle,
it isn't one protest, it isn't one anything. It is
a long distance struggle. And as we'll see tonight with
the the January six Commission, this country suffers too many
times from amnesia and what the White Nationals Party has done.

(54:26):
They've decided we're not even trying to convince anybody. We're
gonna keepe recently framed of beautiful at the beginning of
the show. We're gonna cape for what we cape for,
and damn the rest. Now that's up to the rest
of us to decide. Okay, we're gonna stop talking to
y'all too. It's time to overwhelm you now. And and
this this is just another step in that direction, it is.
And so folks again, and what we are just continue

(54:49):
to see, folks, uh is um uh just the kind
of of behavior that is consistent by police departments around
this country. Um continues. And then you have those people

(55:09):
who said the George Bullies Is Act isn't important. This
is why and again, and I'm just gonna go in
and say it, and I get I really don't care.
I don't really give a damn if any of you
fools out there, y'all do your little little little videos
and you little bullshit Instagram post uh, and you sit
here and like, oh, or you caping, oh you boot

(55:32):
licking all of that. This is very simple. The United
States Senate is fifty fifty right now. There are two
Democrats who do not want to get rid of the filibuster.
So for all your people, and I see you a
little bullshit lit tweets, and you look post on Facebook,
and you look I g post in little TikTok videos

(55:52):
in thet snapchat video, I see all. I see all
all your little bs, and I can call you by names,
but I want because that that's the most teacher you've
ever gotten in your life. Yeah, I'm talking to all
you so called new black media people who have never
seen to see show by anything black. But you're little

(56:13):
talking to your miles, love running your moles on YouTube
and Twitter and social media. Here's the thing. For all
the things that you claim you want. Tell me how
you're gonna get it. I'll wait tell me exactly how

(56:39):
you're going to get the things that you claim that
you want if you do not change the very people
who are in place. Dallas Mayor Ron Kirk later became
Trade Ambassador of Trade Representative for President Barack Obama. Ron
Mona Golfer wrongs like rolling all the other bulliship don't

(57:05):
mean not unless you can count votes. And when you
can count votes and you have the votes in your pocket,
that's when you know you want. So if I sat
here and did some math and I said, hm hmm,
if the same people who loved the post and tweet

(57:27):
and run their mouths will actually use that energy to
push Shery Beasley in North Carolina should be the next
down to state senator, which means you can take one
off the board for the Republican Party and the Fetterman.
And there's some issues with Fetterman, but I'll take a

(57:49):
Fetterman over doctor Ods any day. That now takes another
Republican off the board. Which Consin's primary is gonna be
coming up. The person leading on Democratic side is Lieutenant
Governor Mandela Barnes. So imagine if Mandela Barnes takes out

(58:10):
Centator Ron Johnson in Wisconsin the best three. You got
that fake Magafhood j d vance in Ohio. So imagine
if black folks and others in Ohio support collissman Tim Ryan.
That's four. And imagine if Democrats in Florida get their

(58:33):
act together and Val Demmings knocks out Marco Rubio. That's five.
Imagine if black people in poor white folks in Kentucky
will stop voting against their interests and voting for Rand
Paul with their support Charles Booker. That's six. And imagine
the same black people run of their mouths, including some

(58:54):
folks based in Louisiana, would use the energy to register
black people between now and November to support Gary Chambers.
You could take out Senator John Kennedy. Uh, you know
that that faith talking food there as well. That's six.
You protect Warnot in Georgia, you protect Nevada, New Hampshire,

(59:15):
and also you could potentially could take the seat in Missouri.
What I'm laying out is if folks actually put the
work in the Senate could potentially look like fifty sixty four,
fifty seven, forty three, two fifty nine, forty one dem

(59:36):
two Republican them to Republic Now mansion and cinema don't
control the show. But some folks out there love to
tweet about what folk not doing what they should be doing,
and who licking boots and who doing that. You know

(59:58):
what's gonna happen. They're gonna be the same people m
posting and tweeting if Republicans control the House and the Senate,
They're gonna be the same one saying old, look at
this here, uh we cause Democrats are lose, not what
they're gonna do. And while Republican Party is running the
train on you, Yes I said that for a reason.

(01:00:21):
While they're running the train on America, you're gonna be
sitting your happy as down social media saying she she
looked what I told you all the while get nothing
that you claim you want. But go ahead and play
around with that America, because see, I can only pull

(01:00:42):
the story up and show you how Republican Party, Uh,
they are already planning. Y'all think I'm lying. This is
a political right here, y'all. Um Uh, they are already planning.
They are already planning. Look right here, let me put

(01:01:04):
me pull it up. I'm gonna show you this here,
just just case y'all. Y'all, y'all think I'm lying, just
in case y'all think umline that they are already planning
what investigations they're going to launch when they take control. Y'all,
they're already planning it. They're gonna give Marjorie Taylor Green

(01:01:25):
her committees back if they take over and she wins
in Georgia. They're going to fully endorse and support these
white supremacists. But y'all go right around and keep playing, going,
going right ahead and keep playing, and then rerun this video.

(01:01:47):
Then when I say, hasht that we tried to tell you,
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the American People, the committee reviewed more than a hundred
and thirty five thousand documents and interviewed more than a
thousand witnesses, including Trump advisor Jared Kushner, his daughter Vanka Trump,
Donald Trump junior Ruti Giuliani, and former Attorney General Bill Barr.
The committee wants to prove former President Donald Trump was
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What else should we expect to learn from tonight's hearing?
Joining me now is Michael so Senior Fellow up. He's
Center for American Progress, where he focuses on democracy and
government reform. Michael, glad to have you on the show. Already,
Republicans are trying to uh say that this is uh
what they've been saying is since it was was formed
an legal committee, that they are unjustified. They've got uh

(01:07:12):
the uh communications arm of the Republican Party, Fox News
saying they're not going to show the hearings at all. Um,
is it too late though it's eleven months for they
took place in January six? Uh? And uh? And but
is it too late? Has it already been baked in
the minds from your perspective in terms of how people

(01:07:35):
just feel about this, And Republicans are saying, Hey, focus
on inflation, focus on gas prices, focus on baby formula. Uh,
Americans don't care about January six. Your thoughts, Roland, thanks
for having me on um. No, I don't think it's
too late at all. I think that, of course, it's
taken a while for UM the Committee to really dig

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in and do its investigation. You threw out some really
good figures there about you know, those figures show how
deeply this committee has been doing its work. You know.
It's how that the key staffers on the committee themselves
used to be former prosecutors, so they've been taking their
time to uncover as many facts as possible. And they're

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gonna start weaving the facts together for America tonight. And
I think that the majority of Americans are going to
go into watching these hearings with an open mind. They're
gonna want to see how the facts come together. They
want to They're gonna want to connect the dots, and
then they're gonna want some accountability. Now, of course, as
we know, a big portion of this country, thirty or

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forty maybe the Fox News followers are largely shut off
to this, but that still leaves six of the country
that's gonna be following it, that's gonna be discussing it.
And after these hearings happen over the next few weeks,
and after America learns about the true depths of this
conspiracy and how to keep it from happening again, it's
gonna start conversations everywhere, and hopefully that will have a

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ripple effect, and hopefully that will start to change the
minds of people who we didn't expect to change their minds.
But we're starting off with a vast reservoir of people
who really do want to know what's going to be
revealed from these committee hearings. Uh. And again, what's interesting
to me this continuing, discontinuing effort to discredit it. It's

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because the people who are trying to do discrediting there
literally are still in power in the United States House.
I was just talking about why we've got to vote
in November. These people will be in control, in power,
chairing committees, Speaker of the House, these people, they will

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be in control. Yeah, they will. And they've already several
of the of these MAGO Republicans have already said that
they're going to they take over the House. They're gonna
impeach President Biden uh in the House. So we know
what they're already inning and what they're already cooking up.
And that just links into this larger ongoing conspiracy, this

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effort by Trump and his MAGA allies, the extremist part
of the Republican Party, to engineer the results that they want. Um,
if they tried to do it in throughout the presidential
election cycle, this really came obviously, Trump and his allies
started doing this before actual election day. They did it

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through election day, they did it through January six. And
this is an ongoing effort and ongoing conspiracy where we're
seeing Republicans extremists in many states changing their state laws,
enacting voter suppression laws, election sabotage laws, taking a number
of other steps. We've also seen how a number of

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Trump's extremist allies are actually running for office and becoming
their party's nominees like um Doug Mastriano, who's going who
is the Republican nominee for government in Pennsylvania. So this
is all part of an ongoing plan that I think
is really going to be illuminated through the course of
these hearings, and I think it's really going to help

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answer the question about how to bring accountability, most importantly,
how to keep this from happening again. I don't really
care which party tries it. If Democrats try it in
the future, then they should be held accountable for it
as well. But if if, if we don't get our
hands around this and really see that MAGA extremists are
pulling a lot of levers to try to take control

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of the House, the Senate, and especially the presidency in
two years, our democracy is going to be in trouble. Also,
I keep trying to explain to people that they cannot
forget um what Trump was complaining about. He was complaining
about the votes in Fulton County, that's Atlanta, black people.

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He was complaining about the votes in Milwaukee, in Wisconsin
black people. He was complaining about the votes in Detroit, Michigan,
black people. He was complaining about the votes in Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania black people. So when Donald Trump was whining and
complaining what the election being stolen, what he was saying

(01:12:17):
to his white supporters, look at what those black people
stole from us. Yeah, I completely agree. And you know
I I researched and write about democracy issues and election
issues as my full time job. And what's what I've
been saying for a while, and I know that you
and many others have have been talking about this as well.

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Trump's entire effort, along with his allies, was really an
attempt to stop the emergence of a vibrant multi racial America.
UM and they absolutely are trying to. Uh. They were
reacting to the protests a couple of years ago around
the murder of George Floyd. There. We've always seen this

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backlash whenever there's been some sort of progress, But this
backlash is very much about trying to keep the emergence
of a multi racial society. I think they're they are
very scared of what they saw in Georgia, which elected
to Democrats and President Biden and there that's why this

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is all part of a big plan to be able
to nullify the votes of millions of Americans. And overturn
valid election results when they when they wanted to. And
I'm afraid that this could continue in the future unless
we really get our hands around this, because this goes
to the core of our nation. This is the core
of what makes us a democracy, which is people should

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have their right to vote and have their votes count
and to not have leaders overthrow valid results. That's why
this should matter to every American. Yeah, and what we
have to understand is that these people, and I've been
saying this, which is one of the is in this Look,
my book is coming out in September call White Fear.
They do not like the browning of America, and so

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they cannot stand the fact that you have an increasing
number of black people and Latino people being elected to office.
They can't stand that. And so therefore this notion of
they are taking America from us, or therefore we must
take it back. That's all this whole make America Great
Again crap is all about. They cannot handle the new America.

(01:14:30):
That's exactly right, Roland, And that's why you know, there's
obviously the MAGA wing of the Republican Party has become
the dominating force in the Republican party, and thank goodness
that there are some reasonable Republicans, some pro democracy Republicans
in the party still luck And you know who, whoever

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would have thought that some of us would be heralding
someone like Congresswoman Liz Cheney as a pro democracy warrior,
But she is an example of somebody who's willing to
stand up to the MAGA extremists who tried to overthrow
or tried to block the peaceful transition of presidential power.
And I feel like there's got to be some sort

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of alliance amongst uh progressives and independence and pro pro democracy,
reasonable Republicans who are not part of the MAGA faction,
because uh, if that doesn't happen, then these extremist MAGA
politicians Trump and his allies are going to continue to

(01:15:36):
do whatever they can. And all they have to do
is mess with the election, the election process, and just
a couple of swing states where their candidates are running again,
for example in Pennsylvania where Masstriano was running. All they
have to do is put in some secretaries of state
who oversee the elections inside of states and throw some

(01:15:58):
of the elections to words Trump or the Republican nominees
way and That's why these hearings are gonna be so valuable,
because it's gonna it's gonna shine a very bright light
on those sorts of tactics. And I predict and hope
that Americans are gonna rise up and say this can
never happen again. Um, Greg, I'll start with you, UM.

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Hearing start in about in less than forty five minutes. Um. Greg.
From a value standpoint, Um, what do you think, uh
it will provide to uh the American people? Well, I
have no idea. I don't think there's such a thing
as the American people. I think we have the attentionous
beans of fruit fries. I think I was watching Adam

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Shift yesterday talked about the fact that they've hired a
television producer film producer to try to get the message
h James Gholst and the former president of ABC News. Yes,
and so you know, I'm listening to you, Mike, and
and I read the article that you wrote in The
Hill last week about dark money, and just thinking about
the primaries. We saw all that money that was poured

(01:17:05):
into the l A mayor's election that swayed people's opinion.
This is the guy who's running against uh, Karen Bastard
telling bold face lives. We saw how mass media said, well,
you know, they took out the San Francisco Progressive d
A and they San Francisco sent a message to America.
And when right across the bay in Oakland, a black
woman as progressive or more than him one her primary

(01:17:26):
and then Contra Costa, another black woman that's progressive him
one as well. I'm wondering tonight how we take on
the fact that there is no American people. This is
the problem Joe Biden head. So I guess I would
ask a question, Michael of you when we talk about
reasonable Republicans. The reason Fox News isn't showing this tonight

(01:17:48):
is because they live in a different world and they
have declared war. At what point do we say us
versus them and stop chasing this this fantasy called the
American people, I know shifting. I'm gonna try to produce
the U tonight for people to watch, but people not
gonna watch. And the money is being poured into people,
even the ones who can't be convinced of being convinced

(01:18:08):
away from their interests and the people who are holding
on the white nationalism are clinging to it, and they
can never be persuaded because the thing they fear the
most is including the rest of us. I mean, at
what point do we just say enough and we just
gotta fight for this and there's a there's us and
them in this? Well, I agree, it's a it's a
high hurdle here because a lot of people have retreated
into their own camps, and you've got the whole Fox

(01:18:31):
News audience who might not even see any of this.
But I think it's incredibly important for Congress to be
doing this bipartisan investigation to really lay down the fact,
to make the factual record for history. And I've got
to think that with a lot of the country watching,
and polls have indicated that over six of Americans are open,

(01:18:52):
they too, they want to watch these hearings that are
open to considering the evidence connecting the dots, hearing what
this conspiracy was all about, and how to make sure
it never happens again. I've got a hope that that's
going to create some sort of national conversation. And I
agree that even as splintered as we are, hopefully the
media can focus on it. I mean, look, we remember

(01:19:14):
back to bank, the Benghazi hearings, right, Those were as
um as partisan as you can get. But the Republicans
just stuck with it for years, and they made Hillary
Clinton come and testify, in fact, and she did. She
testified for approximately eleven hours. She she she went and
answered their questions, but they just kept talking about it

(01:19:35):
over and over again, and it seeped into the public
consciousness and then the mainstream media covered it NonStop as well.
So that's what my hope is here, is that there's
enough conversation around this amongst enough of these splinter groups
that there is going there going to be some repercussions
from this. But at the tail end of it, if
we haven't moved any Republicans or any mega Republicans especi

(01:20:00):
actually out of their camp, then I agree that Democrats
or progressives really have to move forward with the narrative
that's going to come out of this hearing, which is
that this is a deep seated conspiracy amongst Trump and
Naga Republicans and it's still going on, and we need
to do everything we can to stop it, and people
need to vote accordingly. Well, I would be remiss if

(01:20:25):
I didn't say that Liz Cheney ain't she Okay, she
made one halfway decent decision, but she is still a
complete enemy of everything that black people need from an
elected official. She voted against the domestic terrorism bill after
the Buffalo Um massacre. She also voted against this great
replacement theory condemnation, even though she tweeted about how thoughts

(01:20:45):
and prayers or whatever the hell she's saying. So fuck her.
But as far as these hearings are concerned, I'm sorry, Okay,
go ahead, I'm sorry. I just got to put that
out there because the roar and unfailed to all. I
just have to represent. But anyway, as far ours these
hearings are concerned, I hope that they're entertaining. I really do.

(01:21:06):
I hope that there is something really just captivating. I'm
encouraged to hear that there's professional movie producers or who
we have in this situation, maybe child because people want
to be entertained right now. If it's not entertaining, nobody
gives a damn. So the more theatrical, the more performance,
the more captivating, the more juicy, the more tantalizing it is,
the better. If this is a serious little proceedings that

(01:21:30):
go on and it's drying, boring, It's really gonna fall flat, okay,
just like the Mola report did. So. The bottom line
is where the attention span of this country is right now.
The Democrats have a very high bar, too clear Fox News,
folks ain't watching it. Oh and people ain't watching. We
ain't gonna get no magarepublicans. But if we do get

(01:21:51):
people to recognize the severity, as your guests point out
of the Secretary of States elections that are coming up,
of the way that there have been people who are
forging electors, trying to put forward forged electors for Donald Trump. Uh,
and you know, and how much this is, how much
is at stake going forward, not just in TWE twenty

(01:22:11):
four but in these men terms. Maybe this something good
will come out of it, But the reality is that
anything is appalling and shocking as we're going Anything that's
going to shock and appall us is a feature, not
a book for the Republicans. It is a blueprint for them,
and I highly doubted that will be less emboldened to
try this the next time. All right, um, you want

(01:22:38):
to follow it up, well again, I agree. I agree
with so many of those comments, and I think that
this is going to be a high hurdle to change
minds of of MAGA Republicans. That's not gonna happen. But
I just really feel that, um, these hopefully, as you said, uh,
these hearings are going to be well produced. They're gonna

(01:22:59):
be gripping the gonna cause conversation. They're gonna allow Congress
to create a record for history about these things, about
these crimes, this conspiracy, and I think that that will
all be helpful, even if it's at the margins. It's
important to do think, and it's important also to get accountability.
If this can help put pressure on Merrick Garland and

(01:23:21):
the Department of Justice to bring charges against people, maybe
even Donald Trump, that's another beneficial aspect that could come
out of it. So I'm gonna stay optimistic right now,
but still absolutely know about the high hurdles that that
exist in front of us. Larry, Yeah, Roland. I think

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one of the things we have to do is acknowledge
all the work of Chairman Thompson from from his years
decades ago, as all the men in Mississippi to today,
he's the he was the right person to you know,
put in charge of the committee. But the other thing
I want to highlight is kind of what Reese talked
about in terms of, you know, of Americans. I think
that this way is playing on national television at night,

(01:24:04):
it reminds me a lot of you know, these reality
TV shows. And one of the things I worry about
what Americans is that there there's no you know, twister
term or a kind of definitive moment where they're they're
there their shots that it will fall on deaf ears.
So I'm really curious to see how this plays out tonight.
Like many Americans, I have no idea how this is
going to go, but I'm assuming there's going to be

(01:24:27):
at least one significant moment where the committee share some
information that Americans didn't know about, particularly as it released
to President Trump. But it is a tall task and
it will be interesting to watch, and I think there
are going to be some twist and turns in there.
I think there's gonna be some very compelling witnesses along
the way. They've looked at a hundred forty thou documents

(01:24:48):
and interviewed a hundred thousand people. There are going to
be some things revealed that we don't know, and hopefully
the committee will will piece it together in a way
that is absolutely compelling for the America people. All right,
then Michaels goes on with the Center for American Progress.
We appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you, all right, folks.
A Michigan Republican gubatorial candidate faces several Mr Bean the

(01:25:10):
Charters for his role in the January six insurrection. Ryan Kelly,
an art and defender of Donald Trump, was arrested today
in Western Michigan. Keller's participation in the insurrection is documented
with photos of him in a baseball cap trying to
rally the pro Trump crowd. He is one of five
candidates on the August second Republican primary ballot. The winner

(01:25:32):
will face Democratic Governor Gretchen Whitber in November. Folks, you
heard recy mentioned, Uh, the Great Replacement Theory. There was
a resolution that was put forth by Congressman Jamal Bowman
that was voted on today in the U. S. Congress. Uh.
It's it's no shock that Republicans did not support it. Uh. Now,

(01:25:54):
this is what he tweeted. I just passed the resolution
condemning the Great Replacement Theory for the first time in history.
The resolution past to eighteen the two oh five in
the House. I received widespread support from the Democratic Caucus. Uh.
That was the first tweet. There were series of tweets
that he actually sent uh discussing that now again, I

(01:26:17):
keep telling you all House Republicans and yeah, two Democrats
voted against the resolution. Who the two Democrats found o police?
Um Bowman stood firm on the stands against the hateful rhetoric.
This is what he said today. It takes two things
to kill multiple people whom you don't even know. It

(01:26:40):
takes hate and evil in someone's heart and a weapon
of mass destruction in their hands. We know we need
gun control, we also need to fight against hate in
all of its forms to truly, truly build a multi
racial democracy, the one that we all want so desperately. Racism,

(01:27:07):
anti Semitism, xenophobia, Islamophobia, homophobia, and hate in all forms
are choking at the promise of our democracy and regressing
us into tribalism. We are so much better than that.
In Congress, we must treat both the issue of gun

(01:27:29):
control and the root causes of hate. The Great Replacement
theory believes believes that only white people are responsible for
progress in our society and that the growth of a
multi racial and multi religious society is a threat to
white people's existence and the health of our nation. This

(01:27:53):
has spread and infected the minds of so many. It
is a conspiracy theory used to stoke racially motivated violence
all around the world, from Charlottesville to christ Church, New Zealand,
and recently Buffalo, New York, where a white supremacist wrote

(01:28:14):
a one hundred and eighty page manifesto citing this conspiracy
and then drove born in two hundred miles where he
carried out a mass shooting in New York, not in
the South, in New York State. These are no longer
fringe elements of our society. The Great Replacement theory has

(01:28:38):
gone mainstream thanks to right wing Republican pundits like Tucker Carlson,
who mentioned these theories more than four hundred times on
the most watch news network in the country. Top Republican
leaders use it as a political weapon. It now threatens
our very existence as a to my squacy, and not

(01:29:00):
as a society. Our lives and our sense of safety
are threatened. Nazi thinking, veiled as political banter, can no
longer go unrecognized and condemned. By our nation's legislative body
and by the Democratic Party. Our response must be strong

(01:29:21):
and we must demand accountability who voted against the particular measures.
Some Democrats complained with the lumping of this into the
gun control legislation. Representatives Elisa Slotkin of Michigan a place,
come on, showed up, please come out, come pad. Representatives

(01:29:44):
Elisa Slotkin a Michigan and Jared Golden of Maine. Uh,
they voted no. Now. Golden previously opposed gun legislation that
was passed in the House. Uh. Slotkin said her vote
was to protest the way Democratic leadership had lumped the
gun control measures to together in one package. Uh so,
but again, just so, y'all know, Republicans are really clear

(01:30:07):
when it comes to uh, this whole issue of great
replacement theory because it appeals to their white nationalist base.
That's just the reality. All Right, folks gotta go to
break they come back. Uh, we'll talk about um strange
story of how the Post Office pool products that had

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Black Lives Matter on it really now they're being sued.
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is Betty knows Betty. I appreciate that. And so uh
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so okay, y'all gonna like this one here. So okay,
I gotta do this one here. I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta walk up to the camera, so Jeremiah, So

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this is a pretty this is a pretty funny one here. Okay, Anthony,
that got no no, no, I gotta do it separate ways,
So I gotta do something different. Hold on, you're gonna
get a kick out of this one here. Racy, I
don't know if your baby do this. I don't know.
So it looks like when we're on the show, Jeremiah

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Road do what he do. So Betty sent in the
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What's up, y'all? Will pack? Hellop TV J Well and
you are watching Rolling Martin Unfield. All right, folks, welcome
back to Roland Martin Unfiltered now in Arizona. Trut back

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us in the Canada assaulted a man in a Black
Lives Matter T shirt at a GLP event. What's this?

(01:37:14):
He can't hit a woman? Who do you think you are?

(01:37:35):
I'm a retired police conductors. Masters claimed the seventy three
year old protester punched a woman moments before the recording
and he had to intervene that this is the same
Black Masters, black Blake who blamed gun violence in America
on black people. Yep, that's the same one. And of
course there's no shot that. That's who Donald Trump has

(01:37:58):
endorsed for the United the Senate. This is one of
the four uh seats Democrats hold right now that they
are trying to hold onto uh in the mid term elections. Yeah,
that's uh, that's today's black investige Republican Party. Just so
you know, uh, you see right there how people really
get all bit out of shape when it comes to

(01:38:20):
Black Lives Matter. We've seen people actually try to paint
over images on streets where they have We're just outside
of our studios here in Washington, d C. We're on
Black Lives Matter plaza. Uh, and some have called for
that to be taken up. Well. A California businessman is
suing the U. S. Postal Service for seizing boxes containing
Black Lives Matter mask Renee Cold on this shipping to

(01:38:44):
demonstrators in St. Louis, Washington, d C, New York City,
and Minneapolis were labeled seized by law enforcement in Renee
is the owner of Movement, Inc. He joins me from Oakland, California,
along with his attorney Java. The shoes are Bailey. I
hope I got it right? Uh job? Did I get
it right? The first go ahead and pronounced it I'll

(01:39:08):
get it right. It's Java see to Ashivilly, seage to Ashaveley. Okay, Joba,
we got it all right. Thin. So you're with the
Institute for Justice uh in arle into Virginia. Okay, So Renee,
what what what happened? You were shipping mask? How did
they seize them? Well, actually, that's the question we would

(01:39:33):
like to know as well. Um, it was a typical order.
I've been shipping with the Postal Service for many years
at that same post office. Um, we were shipping mask
right at the beginning of the raging pandemic to protect
communities that we're out there protesting the police violence against

(01:39:54):
unarmed black and brown men in our communities. And um,
you know, it was just to face asked that we
printed for the BLM movement, and so they seize them. Uh.
And so how long did they hold them and what
reasoning did they give for this? Well? I think they

(01:40:16):
held them for about twenty four hours. But the way
that we had shipped them, they were supposed to arrive
the following morning, So because the protests began the following day. Um,
so holding them for any amount of time and delaying
them really put our community at risk. UM. But in
terms of the reasoning that they gave us, they the

(01:40:38):
post Office said that they resemble packages that could have
been unmailable material whatever that means, and that they were
going to high high drug traffic areas. I mean, I
think in America can be considered a high drug traffic area.
So mask we're going to a high traffic area high

(01:41:04):
I don't even even knowing what the hell that means. Job,
but your thoughts. Yeah, sure, so, you know, just to
even find out this information was a long haul for RENEE.
You can't to submit, you know, Freedom of Information Act
requests appealed. UM. You know how much of those requests
were that redacted? But ultimately, you know, what we learned

(01:41:28):
through the Postal services own internal notes was that they
had no legitimate reason or no you know, or or
any actual suspicion to that would justify these seizures. Write
their own notes, say like renew like RENEE mentioned that
they that the that the packages were being shipped from

(01:41:48):
one high drug area to another. UM. Now, frankly, that
could apply to just about any large city or maybe
even just about any city UM in the country. UM.
The other justifications were just as absurd. They said that
the reasons were that the boxes were um taped on
all sides, so again that applies to that can apply

(01:42:10):
to just about any Amazon package that we all get
every day. Um. And they said that the masks were
set by a frequent shipper of packages, which again that
could apply to any small or large business in the country.
So so at the end of the day, you know,
even crediting the postal services own explanations and internal explanations

(01:42:30):
for what happened here, this was an egregious and blatant
violation of the Fourth Amendments protections against unreasonable and suspicionless
seizures and searches of personal property. Um. It's so their
explanation again for given. And so are they suggesting that

(01:42:55):
your suit is without merit? Well, they haven't responded to
this to yeah, we followed the suit last week. Um,
they have um sixty days to follow a formal response
in court to the suit. So we'll see what exactly
you know, they say in response. But frankly, what we're
what we're expecting is not a response on the merits,

(01:43:17):
a response that tries to justify their conduct. What we're
expecting is them to invoke various court created um immunities
that protect federal officials from lawsuits at all. Um. You know,
many people have probably heard of qualified immunity, which shields
law enforcement and other government officials from lawsuits. It makes

(01:43:38):
it really hard to sue them. Well, in a situation
like this, where you're suing federal officers, there's UH and
even there's a there's an added layer of immunity known
as Bibbins immunity. So what we're expecting them to do
is invoke various kinds of UM, you know, essentially UM
essentially non merits based just vacations for why the suit

(01:44:01):
should be tossed out. Renee, have you had any issues
with your packages since well, we really don't use the
postal service anymore and there's other private shipping companies that
we prefer to use now because of this. All right,
then we'll look, we will certainly keep us abreast of
what happens in this particular case here. It is still

(01:44:24):
strange that there was a mask and all of a
sudden that was the problem shipping them. So thank you
so very much, thank you, all right, Renee Joba, thank
you so very much. Alright, folks, Um let's says the
start up TENNESSEEE that I've found to be quite interesting
and weird, and that is um the only black owned

(01:44:45):
radio station in Tennessee. It's at risk of losing its
license from the Federal Communications Commission. The FCC is threatening
to revoke Joe Armstrong's license for w b j F
after Armstrong failed to report his conviction for falsifying tax returns.
Armstrong's lawyer, Andrew Ward, defended Armstrong in this statement. He said,
this conviction has nothing to do with the station, and

(01:45:07):
we believe it is an injustice to use this against him.
Continues to provide a v He continues to provide a
valuable service running w j b E, which is important
to the community of Knoxville. He served as probation, successfully
paid his fine and his and had his civil rights restored.
He has done everything to the criminal justice system has
asked him to do. Now. Armstrong revived the radio station

(01:45:27):
two thousand and twelve, owned by James Brown. In the
sixties and seventies, w b JF was the only black
oriented radio station UH in East Tennessee. Not now. What's
strange here, Larry, is that they say that he didn't
note this on subsequent paperwork about this tax issue. But

(01:45:47):
this is not like it was a violation of indecency standards. Uh,
so you know, I can get it if you say,
will issue a fine, but literally snatching the license. So
I guess Republicans win because it is an overreach because
it just doesn't it doesn't add up. And so his

(01:46:10):
attorney highlighted that the two issues are not related. In addition,
you highlighted or when that this station plays a critical
role as it relates to important topics information relating information
to the black community. So this station is a community jewel,
and as you highlighted before, it burn around, burn around

(01:46:31):
for decades. So once again, this this is an overreach
by the by the government, and I had it makes
absolutely no sense. I'm sorry to hear this that they're
trying to take the license away, but I'm hoping some
uh federal officials will you know, send a letter to
find out what's going on and support efforts to make

(01:46:51):
sure that he can keep his license in the station
can continue to provide a bottle bottle resource in the
black community. Yeah, you know, when when did the FCC
start doing anything? Again, I haven't heard about it that
they're doing. So this whole damns the rule situation when
it comes to a black radio station is very convenient.

(01:47:12):
So this definitely just seems excessive. And it's in the
public interest to have a black owned radio station operating,
and so hopefully the owner, you know, you're not supposed
to falsify documents. I understand that you're supposed to follow
the rules. I understand that. But at the end of
the day, this is a major factor in terms of

(01:47:32):
black owned radio. And so hopefully they do the right
thing on this one. Because we know that there's Donald
Trump got damn didn't pay his taxes, and he has
all context ship and he's stilled off somewhere getting Secret
Service protection, living his best life. So I think they
can go ahead and and find somebody else to have
the license or whatever fine they have to get through.
Do that, because this is this is definitely excessive. Greg. Yeah,

(01:47:56):
I agree. I mean again, I mean, this is where
we have the words you used earlier. Pressure is very important,
It's extremely important. I mean, is he being persecuted. I mean,
this is a guy who's a Democratic state rep in Tennessee. Uh,
they convicted him in twos sixteen making a false statement
on his two thousand and eight tax return because he
had failed to disclose some income based on selling some

(01:48:19):
cigarette tax stamps that wasn't illegal to do. And then
he filed later. Uh, he paid, he paid, you know,
for what he had done. And then he filed later
in terms of FCC filings related to the station, and
he filed a little late. And you look at it
and say, well, this is kind of a technicality. Why
are y'all drilling down on this? And you can't help

(01:48:39):
but think it's political um and parentedically the previous story
that you covered rolland talking there about their brother from
the West Coast. You heard the counselor evoked the Bivins rule.
This is what Recy was talking about. This what Recy
was talking about the beginning of the show. The eggb
versus Boulay decision at the Supreme Court put down last week,
no yesterday on a Fourth Amendment unreasonable search and seizure.

(01:49:02):
I'm raising that to say that, you know, as the
government begins to or continues to kind of try to
protect itself from doing whatever the hell it wants to do,
whether be federal border agents in terms of the application
of bivins in that case or in the one we
just heard, opening your mail and having somebody paid for
something that they already paid for in terms of the

(01:49:23):
damn post office, or in this case, having something else
that we paid for, namely federal oversight in terms of
the FCC used as a cudgel against a black man
in East Tennessee with a black radio station. You can't
help but sit back and think to your think to yourself,
is this a matter of the rules, or is this
just a matter of politics being played? And so whereas

(01:49:45):
Congressman BARBERA. Lee intervened in this post office case and
they forced them to at least say, well, your package
looks suspicious, which got them and stepp further or whether
in this case we need to put the hammer down
or whoever is over to FCC and PAHs to get
some members of Congress to write letters over there on
behalf of one time represented Armstrong. We've got to get
involved in the political process and put pressure on people

(01:50:07):
because this is this is patently absurd. Yeah, and again,
folks understand, the FCC governs all broadcast licenses, so we're
talking about radio stations, television stations. They don't govern cable.
Uh and so y'all, pulling of a license is extremely rare.
I mean it is very very rare when that action

(01:50:31):
is taken, uh in this country. And so we'll see
what happens there. I gotta go to a break. We're
gonna come back and we're gonna talk about Uh this
George Toime professor who acting a fool over Judge Pandi
Brown Jackson. Uh. They suspend him, then they got reinstated,
then he quit. Then he went over to the Manhattan
Institute with a whole bunch of other races. So we'll

(01:50:51):
tell you about that. And Raca, you may have to
stop cussing because when Betty said this letter, this is
what she said. Uh that Uh that the little man Jeremiah.
She should have a granddaughter who has a fifteen month
old song. She works at night and I take care
of him. Uh night she works. He's an energetic, intelligent boy.

(01:51:11):
He comes running when he hears your music. He loves
to look at you on your your introduction to your show.
His name is Jeremiah, and he is so excited and
happy when he sees you that you can tell by
the pictures are enclosed. He pays attention to everything you say. Well,
just mute me. One has to wonder if if you

(01:51:33):
somehow are reaching him uh on a level that we
cannot understand. Uh. And so she uh sent the photos
in her donation, as Betty knows and j J. So look, Racy,
you know you're gonna you're gonna have to like, you know,
sign language your cousin. So Jeremiah ain't hearing this on Thursdays, okay.

(01:51:58):
Levy also shout out, uh sule Craig Williams and Williams
uh and Uh, so I appreciate your donation. Uh. And
let's see here, okay, So who's this here? They said?
Some cash? Uh? Are those plumbing? They sent a whole
bunch of cards, so said they cash, And they said,

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see here rolling thank you for this platform or truth sincerely,

(01:52:42):
truth be told? I read him earlier. George daniels A
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(01:53:03):
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Uh and they just they went all out. Uh. Let's
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then we'll cool and so these and these were greet
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We're gonna find out what you use greeting cards, so
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quick break, we're coming back with our last story. You're

(01:54:10):
watching Roland Martin unfiltered on the Black Start Network. Alpha's
running this. Joining on the next Get Wealthy with Me
Deborah Owens, America's wealth Coach. You'll hear from Elizabeth Davis.
She left a flourishing career in the construction industry to

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build her own business using her same skill set and
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Every day I was looking at my numbers rather than
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Martin Unfiltered. The Silla Lewis of Tallahassee, Florida has been

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at eight five zero six zero six eight zero zero

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eight five zero six zero six five eight zero zero. Alright, y'all.
Georgetown UH professor UH University law professor says he's a
freeman after resigning from the university this week. Ela Shapiro's
resignation comes months after the controversy with tweets he made
about President Biden choosing quote a lesser black woman for
Supreme Court justice. He said, quote because Biden said he's

(01:56:27):
only considered black women for scholars. This nominee will always
have the asterisk attached fitting that the court takes up
a friend of action next term objectively. Best picked for
Biden is shri Uh provision, who is give me one second,
who is solid, prague and very smart, even has identity
politics benefit of being first agent uh prophesies in American

(01:56:51):
But the last doesn't fit into latest in sexuality hierarchy,
so we'll get lesser black woman. Thanks Heaven for small favors.
Shapiro was scheduled to start work at the University of
February one, but was immediately placed an administrative leave or
the university investigators are marked people very piste off many
students and faculty. The investigation concluded last week in Shapiro
was reappointed to his position, but he resigned claim the

(01:57:12):
university was a place and did not value free speech.
Now the university respondent sing Georgetown rodes members of our
community to engage in robust and respectful dialogue. Our speech
and expression policy promotes free and open inquiry, deliberation, and debate,
and does not prohibit speech based on the person presenting
ideas or the content of those ideas, even when those
ideas made me difficult, controversial, or objectional. Now his was interesting.

(01:57:35):
Shapiro y'all uh did announced the next day he was
taking a job of the Manhattan Institute. Who works at
the Manhattan Institute. Oh, Christopher Rufo, the one who has
been leading the chart against critical race theory. And also
here the McDonald, that white nationalist, white woman who's always
talking about policing and blame me everything on black people.
This ain't no shot where he ended up. He had

(01:57:58):
read and John mcwerder he used to work for. I
wonder if he's still over that. He's still there. Oh yeah,
But you know what's interesting Rolling, I'm not torn about this.
I mean, you know, have friends on the faculty at
Georgetown Law and but just difficult because this guy has
a platform. He wrote, he wrote our eds about this
in the Ball Street Journal. Um, he supported this guy

(01:58:21):
at Princeton, uh named cats who came out against critical
race theory. And it becomes difficult, I think because part
of the thing that he used to defend himself at
Georgetown he said, there are professors on this faculty who
came out strongly against the lead opinion and Roll versus weight.
And he voked up a professor I think in the

(01:58:42):
School of Foreign Relations of Foreign Service at Georgetown and said,
you didn't do anything to hurt I think what drove
this more than anything else with student complaints. So we
have to be I think careful because we live in
a society where, yes, this might be very satisfying in

(01:59:03):
this specific instance, but you know how many black women
and men on faculties around this country have been assaulted
claiming that they are outlandish, and I think you know
it's it's I had to sit back and think about
this for a minute because I think it was the
student complaints that really kind of pushed George Town to
act as quick and reality, Larry, you're unfactor there. We're

(01:59:26):
living in a world where students ain't taking the same
ship there before. The students are not like, shut up,
be quiet for the fact that you know, there are
students who are saying, I'm sorry, I don't want to
be taught by racist So something similar happening. A UCF
professor who was tweeting a bunch of nonsense and eventually

(01:59:48):
was fired from you, Saif unfortunately was recently reinstated. So
I think you want to go back to this story,
is that you're gonna tweat about black folks. Make sure
you capitalized to be first of all, second of all
ruling you're right, I work in higher education. If the
students complaints, you have a problem. And so he found
out quickly. I think the interesting thing is he had
he made sure he has somewhere soft to land before

(02:00:09):
he got out of there. So that's the really key
thing to keep in mind is he already had a
job set up and he wrote all those out there
in Washington, all Street Journal, etcetera. But he knew he
had a place. He already had a place to go.
He probably signed a contract, already had a handshake agreement.
So he's not like he's out, you know, really sacrificing
himself on behalf of right wingers. He's really just toking

(02:00:32):
the same line we hear about CRT and also you know,
denigrating black folks. Ex. I want to get competitive chat
real quick because the Democrats are coming into the here
and go and pull it up place reci you're comment
on this issue, I'll keep it quick, go to hell.
He just wants to be a victim because ultimately Dr
Carr he got his job. He decided he wanted to

(02:00:53):
quit so that he can be a martyr of sorts
for you know, anti Wolk whatever situation may be. So
here's another white man and getting to say whatever the
hell he wants to say, no matter how racist it is,
and the reparations paying Georgetown that is a slide. That's
the story of white people in academia.
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