NAACP Suspensions, Black Airman Killed by Fla. Deputies, FAMU's $237M Donation, Meta's subscription

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Today's Thursday, May nine, twenty twenty four and coming up
of Roland Martin on the filters streaming live with the
Black Star Network. As we speak, the Florida A and
M University of Board of Trustees having an emergency meeting
regarding the two hundred thirty seven million dollar gift that
was presented them over the weekend. Lots of questions have
been raised regarding that gift. They are literally going over

(00:31):
this relationship with the individual who gave the money. Later
the show, we'll talk with a young man who has
been posting a lot of a lot of information on
social media regarding Gerald Dromy and his past and whether
or not his donation is legitimate. Also, several former NAACP
leaders say the Civil Rights Organization has unjustly suspended them.

(00:54):
In a Roland Martin exclusive, we'll speak to six of
them tonight. A Texas DA still before the Terran County
Commissioners Court defending his decision to try to reconvict Crystal
Mason y'all eight years after she voted. She of course
didn't realize she could not vote. The only black commissioner
to question his motives will be here. Also, another black

(01:17):
man is killed by law enforcement in Florida. Deputies enter
the wrong home and killed a senior airman. Roger Fordson.
Ben Crump is the family attorney. Will explain how the
deputies are trying to cover up their deadly mistake. Also
our tech talk segment, Meta Facebook, they're expanding their paid
verification service for businesses. We'll talk with the fan base

(01:40):
CEO Isaac Hayes about this change. It is time to
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Speaker 1 (02:42):
All right, folks, as we speak to Florida andam University
border regions, they aren't meeting to regarding this two to
thirty seven million dollar donation that they received from a
donor over the weekend. Guys, go to my iPad please, Uh,
this meeting is taking place as we speak. Uh. Lots
of questions are being raised from alumni and others regarding

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the donation, because again, this is a large donation into
any HBCU. A lot of people though, are asking again
where the donation come from. Is a legitimate donation, So
a lot of questions, a lot of questions are being
asked as we speak in this board meeting. We of course,

(03:27):
we are following it as they actually take place because
we want some answers as well. Later in the show,
we're gonna be talking to a gentleman. He has been
posting a lot of information on social media with regards
to the donor, with regards to the donors, so as
we speak, go right for my iPad. As we speak,

(03:48):
the board members again are getting they they are getting
answers from the university with regards to how the relationship started,
in terms of what's the valuation of these stocks is
he is a private company. But I have I've been
listening for the past hour, and I certainly have some
additional questions that are not being answered on this call,

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and so we shall talk about that later in the show.
All right, folks, listen, now talk about what's happening in
the NAACP. Of course, the NAACP's motto is leading the
fight to end racial inequality. But a group of former
leaders say they have been unfairly suspended, harassed, and defamed
of the civil rights organization. The group, which includes more

(04:31):
than twenty folks from across the nation, they've got stories
of unfair treatment and unexplained suspension of their leadership, post
and membership. Six of them join us tonight in studio.
Rochelle the Law, the former youth advisor and chair of
the AXO competition from the Philadelphia branch. She said she
was suspended from sending out an out of date sponsorship
form letter to raise money for youth lee Roy Candler,

(04:54):
the past president of the Fresnal NAACP chapter, says he
was suspended but transferring funds from d from the NAACP
to his personal account. He says that never happened and
he has a letter from the bank manager proving his innocence.
Joining us, of course, on the line is Lou Walker,
the president of the Antelope Valley NAACP branch, saying she

(05:14):
was suspended the filing an internal harassment complaint. Anthony Douglass,
a past board director of the NAACP, in Oklahoma, says
he was suspended a day before the national convention that
for challenging President and CEO Derek Johnson, and will be
joined later by Nashville's past president Venita Lewis, who says
she was suspended after challenging the direction of Tennessee State

(05:35):
Conference president Gloria sweet Love. Also, Betty Williams, the past
president of Zacramento NAACP branch, says she was suspended three
days before an election after filing harassment charges. All right,
glad to have all of y'all here, So first and foremost,
NAACP obviously based there in Baltimore National Office, and so

(05:57):
the CEO, you have, the CEO, you have the board.
They have jurisdiction obviously over the branches. And so when
it comes to uh b y uh both of you,
what what was the process of that took place that
led to your suspension?

Speaker 8 (06:12):
First of all, Morland, thank you for having us, cause
we do appreciate this.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
The process was none.

Speaker 8 (06:20):
They're in the constitution in bilogues in the NAACP's basically
states that there's an issue with any member that you
have to file, and they have specific way that you
have to file. What is considered an Article ten and
the Constitution in bilogues that has to be filed with
twenty members in good standing about what it is that

(06:41):
you do. Most of these the article ten was not filed.
If you are a friend of Derek Johnson, which was
told to me that you can go to him, or
go to Gloria Sweet Love or deal with Erika Kaine.
You can go to them and tell them about s
you so something that they can make up that you

(07:01):
did or didn't do, and that was give it to
Dereck Johnson. We recommend you suspend this person. He just
signs it. He just signed it, no question, no nothing.
In my case, if there was an error, I have
ags that work for me. If there was an error,
why don't you just call me and say, hey, you
know you can't use a suspended member on your memo

(07:24):
and that.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Would have been corrected because it's a template.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
So you're saying that on what you sent out was
a member that had been suspended. Their name was on
this form and that's why you got suspended.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yes, that's why I got suspended.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
As opposed to just correct the form.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Called me so I can correct the form.

Speaker 8 (07:42):
First of all, my aide don't know nothing about NUABLEACP suspension,
so she wasn't aware the person was suspended. So why
not call me twenty plus years in the NAACP secretary
to fill off your brands for more than twenty years
and let me make a correction. I was never over Axles.
I was over the Youth Council for fifty team plus years.
I've always raised funds to make sure the Youth counsel

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go to the conventions, do what they need to do
in the city.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yes, Lee Roy, you said, according to that you were
suspended for transferring funds from the NAACP account to your
personal account. That was the allegation. Who made the allegation?

Speaker 9 (08:19):
Rick Calendar made the allegation?

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Who was that?

Speaker 9 (08:22):
Rick Kellen's the president of the California Conference.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
All right, so made the allegation. But you say you
have a letter from your bank letter from the bank
money was that transfer?

Speaker 9 (08:32):
He even had legal regrets.

Speaker 10 (08:34):
Chair to get on a conference call with the bank manager,
and the bank manager told him that he had the proof.

Speaker 9 (08:41):
She sent me a copy of the proof afforwarded to him.

Speaker 10 (08:44):
He showed the proof to Rick and he Steel when
it had me suspended. He later on had their lawter.
Their attorney Asante asked me for the letter. I sent
it to him and sent him to the proof, and
I also sent the proof to Miss Alex Hoffman to
verify that this never happened.

Speaker 9 (09:00):
Nothing happened. I sent letters to.

Speaker 10 (09:05):
Mister Williams and Derrek Johnson asking for a hearing and
asked to be heard. Never got in a response. I
sent a written request requestion that I'd be responding and
that I be heard.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Either of you make an appeal to the Board of directors.

Speaker 8 (09:17):
When you get the letter, it tells you have to
make it within fifteen days.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
I made it within two.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Days, right, And I made it within two days.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
And nothing to hope to At that point it was
Quincy Bates. You had.

Speaker 8 (09:28):
Letter came from Quincy Babs that he's somebody on then
was worked in a national office that dealt with memberships.
He got the lim I got all this documentation because
emails is stamped and time.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Date got it.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
So send that back requesting the hearing. Never got a hearing.
Here's the kicker.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
Never got a hearing, and I was suspended right before
I got to the National Convention last year. Never got
a hearing, but in August got a letter said that
they had a hearing without me. They deliberated and decided
to spend my membership for six years.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Six years.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
You hear me?

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Six he.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Know it.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
Let me say this, this is a national organization about
civil rights, but yet you violate the civil rights of
your members. I'm not a subscribing member. I'm a life,
fully paid member. Been there plus in Philadelphia there are
two other ones forty plus years. Shirley Jordan was the

(10:28):
treasurer of the Philadelphia branch because she questioned the newly
elected president of the Philaepia branch who wanted a five
frontred dollars check, which.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Is against the constitution and by law.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
That president made up a lie on a letterhead, took
it to the bank, committed fraud me, Shirley and the
secretary of the branch who questioned her and did do
an article ten on the Philulphia branch.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
We are suspended.

Speaker 8 (10:55):
Yet she did because she's telling everybody that Derek Johnson
and there's a friend and nothing's going to happen to it.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
And guess what, nothing's happened to it.

Speaker 9 (11:03):
So Leebra, how long you suspended unknown. It's never stated
how long I was suspended, So you don't know. I
don't know. You just send me a letter say you
were sposed to spend it.

Speaker 10 (11:12):
When I write a litter to find out, no one
can tell me to the distger how long we spend it.

Speaker 9 (11:16):
Nobody has an f for that.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Lou Walker, you were suspended following an internal harassment complaint.
What type of harassment complaint was it?

Speaker 11 (11:25):
I didn't have.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
An internal harassment complaint.

Speaker 12 (11:29):
My letter said I was suspended for requesting that our
branch secretary resigned. Since he did not live in California
and I was actually responding to the community calls for
help crisis call, I couldn't challenge my suspension. I didn't
get responses when I inquired about it as well.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So how long will you suspended?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
I've been suspended since.

Speaker 12 (11:59):
August, but didn't tell me how long my suspension is.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Opposed to that, Betty, what about you?

Speaker 7 (12:09):
I was also suspended.

Speaker 13 (12:11):
I was running against the now state president of a
California Hawaii. They are also saying that there was financial
My understanding through media that was financial issues.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
However, I also had harassment.

Speaker 13 (12:31):
Charges and complaints internally to the NAACP that they never
responded to.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
So you said, rastic complaints that you filed or filed
against you, which one I.

Speaker 13 (12:43):
Filed against the California Hawaii president. I internally filed three separate.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Times and harassment plans. What kind of harassment?

Speaker 13 (12:54):
Harassment as far as putting information out there that was
not correct? The example, I was also the election supervisor
during the election period, and it stated he put out
an email saying that I was not fit to be
the chair for the election chair because I was running

(13:14):
against him, and the ballots had.

Speaker 7 (13:18):
Not been opened. They were sealed.

Speaker 13 (13:20):
They were supposed to be private and not open until
a certain date, and so I questioned, how did he
know that information? National did not respond. He kept bullying
me so much so I had to bring individuals to
the meetings and I had to make a statement and
ask them to put it in the minutes that I'm
being bullied. He's accusing me of things that I did

(13:41):
not do according to the bylaws, and I wanted discrimination
charges at least documented in the minutes. When those minutes
came from the secretary from the election committee, it never happened.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
I continued to move forward.

Speaker 13 (13:58):
Then I started getting cyber bullying, and it came from
a dark web. I had to hire an attorney who
took the cyber bullying and sent it to the Department
of Justice as well as the ag the Attorney General,
because in California that is a criminal act.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
And so once I continued to do that.

Speaker 13 (14:22):
Three days before the election, I was poised to win.
I would have won, but three days before the election
there was an emergency agenda item saying that I should
be suspended.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
Not just me.

Speaker 13 (14:37):
He wanted the entire Sacramento NAACP branch to be suspended. However,
it was myself six others from the Sacramento branch, two
of which had wrote support letters in my defense to
the national board and Derrick Johnson. They were suspended the
next day for supporting me. A number of people rallied

(15:02):
behind them and said they never should have, and then
they repealed those two suspensions. So they suspend just like
Rochelle was saying, someone can give them information without investigation,
without due process, without any of that. If they had
known in the beginning, especially those two, that they had
to repeal the suspension, they would have known all they

(15:25):
were doing was writing letters on my behalf and.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
It was personal right for them to be suspended that
next day.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
By Anthony Douglass. You alleged that you were suspended a
day before the National Convention because you criticized the President's CEO.

Speaker 14 (15:38):
Dear Johnson, good evening that role there and thanks for
having me, And that is correct. I've been the president
of the Oklahoma State Conference as the former member of
the National Board of Directors.

Speaker 15 (15:49):
I received the email saying that I was suspended.

Speaker 14 (15:52):
I've written them over eight times, thirty five letter requesting
that they tell me while I'm suspended, and still to
this day, I cannot get a reason for why I'm suspended.

Speaker 15 (16:02):
And I was also suspended for six years.

Speaker 11 (16:06):
So and.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
What was interesting to me here as I as i
I'm going through information, here is what is consistent with
all of you is due process now based upon the
rules of the organization and bylaws. Does it spell out

(16:33):
clearly what the process is when it comes to suspension,
When it comes to appeal, who do you appeal to UH?
And then do you appeal to the National Office? Can
let's say you let's say they rule against you. Can
you then appeal to the to the Board of Directors
what's that process?

Speaker 8 (16:53):
First of all, the constitution and bilogues give you specifics. Now,
the president can suspend you if he think it is
detrimental to the organization. But if you if your friends
bring you stuff and you suspend people, why would you
even get involved?

Speaker 16 (17:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
No, no, my point, no, no, no, no, I have so
I guess so you have the authority to suspend when
I'm talking about what is the process after that?

Speaker 8 (17:20):
If they suspend you and the letter tells you you
have fifteen days to appeal, you appealed to that you've.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Been and who are you appealing to? National Office? That's
what Director of Membership.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Quincy Bates at that time worked for the National Office.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Who is okay? So what's that person's title.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
That you would appeal to?

Speaker 13 (17:44):
Carmen Watkins, who's the operations person? Vice president of our
operations is where the letter comes from, and Rochelle is correct.
There's specific dates that you go by fifteen calendar days
and then they should be responding within ten calendar of receipt.
So there's a number of deadlines that the individual has

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to follow as well as national What has been happening
is that individuals like myself and everyone on this panel
and others have responded within the guidelines that's presented in
the bylaws. However, the same deadlines have not been given
by the National They do not follow up. We appial
my attorney's appill and we are waiting on an answer

(18:28):
on the appeal. But they don't even tell you if
you have a complaint against you, you're not allowed to
see the complaint. You are not allowed to have an
attorney to speak on your behalf if you go out
in front, like my branch was threatened if they said
anything out loud against me or against me or support

(18:53):
of me, that the entire branch would be shut down.
So there's these bully tactics for people to be silence,
and so much like you have to ask permission for
a boycott or rally that I know you've already experienced.
You have to ask permission, and but yet you're the NAACP,

(19:13):
your civil rights organization. This is it's worse than apartheid.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
So okay, So, so have any of you communicated any
of this to National Board members? Have any of you
tried to attend a National Board meeting? Have y'all gotten
anything from any of them? Anybody let me say this, Yes,
I got them. I have okay, hold on, hold one second,
hold on, Gough.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
I have the whole package of everything that happened in
the fill of your branch, and I sent it to
all the National Board members. Philuf, your branch is under receivership,
but it's now called administratorship, which is the same thing.
You know what the administrator says to me. The National
Board want to know why you sending them this because
I want to let you know what's been going on.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
So you said one second to every board member every day,
did any board member respond to none? Who else said
that they reach out to the board.

Speaker 13 (20:09):
Who else I reached out to? This is Betty Williams.
I reached out to the board. Matter of fact, I
flew to Atlanta because I heard they had this emergency
suspension on the agenda.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
I took a midnight flight, flew out there.

Speaker 13 (20:25):
Actually had a conversation with sorry about that with Gloria
sweet Love says, I understand you may or may not
have an issue with me and or my branch. I'm
here if you have any questions, any concerns regarding.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Me or my branch. I'm here to answer them. She
answered me by saying.

Speaker 13 (20:44):
No took We've taken your issue off the agenda. I
was physically there as a matter of fact, Roland. When
I finished meeting with them, I ran into you in
Atlanta in the lobby after talking to them.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Oh yeah, that's because y'all there would That was the
same time Rainbow Push I had their meetings there as well.
Got it? I remember that who else said that they
reach out to the board director. Someone else did?

Speaker 17 (21:11):
I did?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Go ahead? What happened?

Speaker 12 (21:14):
I filled everything out. I submitted my requests for a hearing.
I even recorded it. I sent it certified mail. I
recorded myself at the post office, and I was not
getting responses. I documented my calls that I made to
the National Office as well, and I was just giving
the run around repeatedly. And this is why I joined

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the NA being the first play, because I was experiencing
these same lack of due process as a staying employee.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
We go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 15 (21:52):
Let me just say this.

Speaker 14 (21:53):
I serve on that board board members is not going
to amend the vein I getting involved, even if you
reach out to them, because they don't even know why
you suspend it. You don't know why you're suspended, So
even if they know, they still not going to get
involved because they don't want to get a letter saying
that they are suspended. So a lot of times board
member will not even ascertain or talk to you about

(22:15):
why you've got suspended. One of the things I wanted
to say, also because you asked the earlier question, what
the appeal process is. The first of all, when you
get your letter, it tells you got fifteen days to
request the hearing. It doesn't give you the authority of
the process to have an appeal, so you have to

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request a hearing within fifteen days.

Speaker 15 (22:37):
But in the.

Speaker 14 (22:38):
Meantime of waiting for that hearing, for whenever they want
to schedule hearing, then you have to continue to write
as everyone else have done, call email, texts or whatever,
and say tell me, send me something in writing, why
am I suspended? So I can be able to prepare
it for a hearing, so my lawyer can be able
to prepare for a hearing to assist.

Speaker 15 (22:58):
Me in the hearing process.

Speaker 14 (23:00):
And you still get nothing the right So I wanted
to make sure that you understood that the process of
the fifteen days once you receive that letter, you have
to request hearing with that fifteen days. If you don't
submit for a hearing, then you will be notified that
you refuse to participate.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
In a hearing.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
And everybody has submitted their information within them fifteen days.
Let me say this, even in a constitution in Bilow,
after you submit, the National Constitution in Bilow said that
they're supposed to do something within sixty and ninety days,
which they don't do.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
They don't do that at all.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
In my case, after I guess it was like sixty
of ninety days, they had a hearing, which I wasn't
the privilege to. They deliberated and decided to spend me
for six years. Wait a minute, what civil rights organization
has a hearing without you decide.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
On your faith and you not even included on it.
What are they doing?

Speaker 8 (23:58):
Let me just say this, IVERY think the NAACP has
taught us when you fight, you win. We are fighting
though it's a lot of us, but we know that
there is more people out there that have been going
through this with the National Office, and we want them
to contact us.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Can I get that information out?

Speaker 8 (24:18):
We want you that's been going through this because we
know you think you're going through that alone, You're not.
There's a whole group of us around the country. You
can call us and email us. You can email us
at Justice j U S T I CE the number
four N DOUBLEACP members at gmail dot com. You can

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also call us at three two three six nine six
two zero seven eight.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
They've taught us this, when you fight, you win.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
We are fighting, We are fired up, and we are
not taking anymore. I'm trying to figure out the national
or Derek Johnson gets a four hundred and sixty thousand
dollars plus salary president salary, more.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Than the President of the United States. He has a board.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
Members that approved that. I'm trying to figure out they
are cult or they're just scared. How do you increase
somebody's salary to four hundred and sixty plus when all
of us are volunteers that don't get paid it on,
don't get a don.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
We reached out to the NAACP this week several times,
and right before we went on the air, we got
this statement. Go to my iPad vis Trevon Williams is
the SVP for Marketing and Comms with the NAACP, said
I wanted to make sure you receive our response. I
believe our Office of General Council email. But in the
interest of times, the NAACP firmly denies any allegations of defamation, harassment,

(25:49):
or improper suspension against the individuals mentioned. Furthermore, each individual
has received or is receiving due process in accordance with
the Double ACP bylaws. The NAACP does not comment on
specific internal disciplinary actions for its members. Currently, the Black
community is facing tremendous challenges, including attacks on voting rights, diversity,

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equity and inclusion initiatives, crucial upcoming elections, women's rights, and
most recently, threats to free speech. To effectively tackle these concerns,
we must maintain the strength of both our national and
local branches. Our focus remains on empowering our branches to
effectively address and assist the needs of our community and
to encourage to encouraging all eligible Black voters to cast
ballots in the twenty twenty four election, the most important

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election of our lifetime. That's the statement from the n
Double ACP National Office. Final comment. I'm sorry some one well.

Speaker 15 (26:46):
Said say that. I've just reviewed that statement as you
have read it.

Speaker 14 (26:51):
Also, I've been a member of n double ACP since
seventy four.

Speaker 15 (26:55):
I'm gonna retired Vietnam Dela Storm.

Speaker 14 (26:57):
Dela Cio golf war veter, one hundred percent, just say
I volunteer my time. I've served as the president and
interim president for the state of Oklahoma NAA SC people
going on nineteen to twenty years. To see that statement,
to ship around with that statement, to say, you're not
gonna comment, You're not gonna address these issues.

Speaker 15 (27:18):
The constitution by laws give you that authority.

Speaker 14 (27:22):
When you raised the question about the twenty nineteen organization
in Delaware, then they threatened say if you bring that up,
you talk about the Delaware Corporation, We're gonna suspend you.
You question my authority, You're gonna suspend me. As the
state comft president of Oklahoma, I have never had to
sit down one on one come talk with Derrick Johnson
as president. You do not treat volunteers the way we

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have been treated. We're volunteers.

Speaker 15 (27:48):
We care.

Speaker 14 (27:49):
We're the one on the ground fighting and walking and
putting our family lives in danger behind. Represent the members
in the community, not the not Jarrey Johnson.

Speaker 15 (28:00):
We're out here in the field.

Speaker 14 (28:02):
You don't tell me that during the George Floyd situation
that the work that we did in the field did
not help raise the money. Derrick Johnson personally say, HiT's
because of him that the NAACP got the money, not
what we do as leaders out in this field. So
don't tell me that I don't count. This is a

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volunteer organization. We should have due process. You cannot belong
to a volunteer organization and be told you have no rights,
you have no due process. We can degrade you, talk
down to you, and treat you like we want to
treat you just.

Speaker 15 (28:35):
Because you are volunteer.

Speaker 14 (28:37):
Volunteers have right no matter what the organization were in,
even in the clans, they volunteers have right, So we
shall have the same right in the NAACP, Lord Walber, I.

Speaker 12 (28:48):
Just wanted to share this is exactly why we joined
because our branch was not responsive. LA County had some
of the highest racial disparities of the country, and we
have very little representation from the NAACP. I was sending
center reports, I was sending data, and I was not
getting any responses, and they actually exploited. They started hurting

(29:10):
some of the cases. One of the stories was on
your show, Yayo Wressel to one of the stories that
in AACP representative didn't even contact the family for and
they they went on the news in a press conference
without the family's permission. So I want to stress that

(29:33):
it's one thing to not be active and effective in
the black community. It's another to hurt and harm the
black community under the guise of being a civil rights organization.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Betty, So Betty.

Speaker 13 (29:48):
In their response, there's a couple of things that they
said as far as what they do, and so one
of the things I would like to see them do
at least in California, there's at least five harassment charges
from five different women that hasn't been addressed. I'm one
of the five and have documentation to prove it.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
So one of the things I was.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Sorry, I'm sorry you say five different rasment allegations, five
different different women, five.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Different women against in California, in California, that.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Against us, against other members against who who.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
Against.

Speaker 13 (30:24):
Uh, some individuals on the executive committee, the California Hawaii president.
And so for them to say that they are busy
fighting charges when there's harassment against women. One tried to
look in your own backyard and deal with the women
that are filing those charges. Internally, at the very least

(30:45):
acknowledged that it happened. Secondly, they're they're talking about they're
fighting for elections, and but yet eternally there's so many
things that's going on with their own elections.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
They are changing the script.

Speaker 13 (30:59):
According to the BYOL, there's individuals whose name a total
of forty six names were taken off of a ballot
with no explanation at all. Leroy himself was suspended because
he was a secretary challenging the election process.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
I was challenged and.

Speaker 13 (31:18):
Things were just changed, people's names, taking off of ballots,
and so internally, when you appeal it, they throw them out.
We appealed certain things that should not have happened when
it came to the election, internal election process, and they
would throw it out and said it had nothing to
do with anything. And finally, the committee that handles the

(31:43):
suspension is called them Membership Committee, and personally and collectively
we feel that they should eliminate that entire committee because
they are actively not doing the due diligence. They're taking
on personal assignments and if you don't do right by

(32:05):
those individuals, they will go forward with suspensions without due process.
We're saying it should be a third party entity that
has a legal arm that looks into the investigation of
any and all suspensions.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
That's what we're looking for, Lee, right.

Speaker 10 (32:20):
Yes, I would like to say that I sent my
appeal to Derrick Johnson, Russell Williams, and Carmen Watkins. They
did have me speak with one of their attorneys, I
believe his name was Asante, and once I sent him
the letter the proof that that was vindicated, I did
the bank letter that I had proved that I did
not take any funds of the bank. And when I
asked him what he was going to do now that

(32:41):
he had the proof, and he said that depended on
miss calendar to see what he had to say. And
he was supposed to be representing the national and he
telling me to go back to the same president that
had suspended me wrongfully because of it was retaliation for
what I had done. Is they exposing the names of
these people that had been taken off of this list,
which is a much broader conversation and what we're having right.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
Now, Rachelle, I'm going to say there's and close out
with this here. We know that there's a people around
the country that are experiencing this because a lot of
these chapters are in chaos. Phil Lolfia, you know the
election is supposed to be every two years. Philolfia is
going on the fourth year of not having any election.
Because the friend of Derek Johnson is the president, the

(33:25):
friend that we file charges against for fraud is still
the president. I'm saying that all of those around the country,
you are not by yourself. We are keeping our options open.
What we are not trying to do is tear down
the naac because it has done good works across the country.
But this administration, Dereck Johnson's sweet love, Erica Kaine, the

(33:50):
so called lawyer Hoffman, all of them.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Are on the clique.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
Anytime you want to hang on to that four hundred
and sixty thousand plus salary, when all of us out
here put our money out of our pocket, just continue to.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Do the work of the NAACP, You are not alone.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
Call us three two three six nine six two zero
seven eight. Email us your information Justice for NAACP members
at gmail dot com.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
When you fight, you win.

Speaker 8 (34:26):
We are not going to stand here and allow that
click to continue to oppress members that are out here
doing the work.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
All right, well, look, we surely appreciate y'all being on
the show. Shortly keep us a breast what happens next.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
They were keeping on offices open trust me.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
All right, thanks about all of you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 18 (34:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
It's gotta go to break. We come back. We're gonna
discuss what's happening in Terren County where the White DA
there continues to defend the prosecution of Crystal Mason. This
is going on eight years now after the depellate court.
Throughout the conviction, he argued at the kind of Commissioner's
meeting that they should that he will continue to to
appeal the decision and try to prosecute her. We'll talk

(35:07):
to one of the Terran County commissioners who challenge him
in that meeting. You're watching Roland Martin unfiltered right here
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Speaker 19 (37:37):
I'm doctor Nard Hodges and I'm doctor Terrence Ferguson and
you're tuning into.

Speaker 9 (37:41):
Roland Martin unfairure.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
All right, welcome back. This is a live look at
the Florida and M University Board of Trustees meeting where
they are asking a lot of questions of President Larry
Robinson and his staff with regards to the funding this
donor gift of two hundred and thirty seven million dollars
in stock that took place over the weekend. The President

(38:19):
has announced on this call that given the scrutiny, given
this heightened scrutiny, they are putting the processing of this
donation on hold. These boarder Trustees members had no idea
about this donation. There are lots of questions. I can
tell y'all right, now, there's actually not real money here, okay,
So just so you understand what's going on. There's not

(38:42):
actual real money that's going on here. And so this
was a two hundred and thirty seven million dollars that
was in stock, in stock that was given to the university,
but stock in a private company. Well, there are lots
of questions of what is this company? Is it a

(39:04):
real company, what's the valuation of this company? And so
we're going to talk further about that, when we talked
to a gentleman who's actually monitoring this. He's been posting
a lot of information on social media. We talked to
him later in the show. So we're just going to
keep you updated on that. Now, folks, let's talk about
the continuing mess in Terrant County where Chrystal Mason continues

(39:26):
to be terrorized by the Terrant County DA. Now, remember
it was eight years ago when Crystal Mason voted in
the twenty sixteen election. She thought she could vote. She
filled our provisional ballot. The ballot was never counted, but
she was prosecuted as a result of being indicted because

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she was already on a parole from a federal tax
fraud conviction. She was sent back to federal prison to
complete that term. Two years was added to her sentence.
They've been fighting it. They won in the Court of Appeals. Now,
Ran County DA Philip Sourels spent before the County Commissioner's

(40:11):
court this week to defend why he wants to appeal
that decision and why he continues to terrorize Crystal Mason.

Speaker 20 (40:24):
The Court Criminal Appeals told the Fort Worth Court to
perform a sufficiency analysis. Specifically, they told the courts to
determine if the state proved with sufficient evidence not only
that Mason knew that she was on supervisor release when
she voted, but also that she actually realized that those circumstances,
that the fact that she was on felony supervised release,

(40:45):
that those circumstances rendered her ineligible to vote. Sufficiency of
reviews not uncommon. The standard is well settled. It's something
that courts do regularly. The appeals court in a sufficiency
review there to.

Speaker 21 (41:03):
Look at the evidence. So they look back at the evidence.

Speaker 20 (41:05):
They're not in the light most favorable to the verdict.
So they look back and say, Okay, we know what
the verdict was. The verdict was that she was found guilty.
Now is there sufficient evidence to support that verdict? But
that's not what happened in the Second Court of Appeals

(41:25):
this past March. Instead, the court reweighed the evidence. They
acted like a fact finder. I like that piece of evidence,
I'll take that. I don't believe that piece of evidence,
I'm going to push it away. That's not what you
do in a sufficiency standard. They credited and discredited evidence
just like they were the fact finder. This is not
a fact question. We are not here to talk about facts.

(41:47):
This is a legal question, a matter of legal principles,
sufficiency of the evidence. Their decision was a deviation from
well settled law on sufficiency. So why is the state
Why am I appealing this case? Well, there's I'll give
you three reasons. Number one, I want would be illegal

(42:09):
voters to know that we're watching, and then we'll follow
the law and we will prosecute illegal voting. I want
those that vote legally to know that we're watching and
that we're working to make sure that your vote's not
going to be deluded by any illegal votes. And finally,

(42:35):
this is a deviation from the well settled law regarding
sufficiency reviews and it needs to be corrected.

Speaker 21 (42:41):
This case, if it's left.

Speaker 20 (42:42):
Standing, impacts every sufficiency case in the state of Texas,
not just voting cases, murder cases, theft cases, capital murder cases,
any kind of case. This case, it's a published opinion,
can be cited for a proposition that this is how
you revieuse.

Speaker 21 (42:59):
A and see cases. And it's wrong.

Speaker 20 (43:03):
So we need the Quarter Criminal Appeals to come and
tell the Second Corp Appeals that you need to do
the sufficiency standard evaluation again, how can answer any of
your questions?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Questions for mister Sols, I have a bunch, but I'll
wait until after public comment. But let me ask you this.
How she did not vote? She submitted a provisional balance.

Speaker 16 (43:34):
I keep hearing chatter in the audience. I'm going to
start watching and start removing people. That's not what we're
gonna do. So sit there, let the process play out.
You'll have your opportunity to speak. Listen to what others
are saying. Do not speak out, or you'll be removed
from the chambers.

Speaker 9 (43:51):
Go ahead.

Speaker 20 (43:52):
So she didn't vote, She did vote, She cast her
provisional ballance.

Speaker 22 (43:56):
Same with voting that did not. Can't where is the ballot?

Speaker 15 (43:59):
Sir?

Speaker 22 (44:00):
What happened to the ballot?

Speaker 21 (44:02):
I can't tell you what happened to me?

Speaker 22 (44:03):
What do they do with a provisional ballot?

Speaker 21 (44:05):
Administrator? So I don't know where the ballot.

Speaker 22 (44:07):
Is, No, Chandler, do you know what they do with
provisional ballots?

Speaker 9 (44:12):
No?

Speaker 21 (44:12):
No, no, man, I don't know.

Speaker 22 (44:13):
My apologies, it didn't count. Is that correct?

Speaker 21 (44:17):
You're wrong?

Speaker 20 (44:18):
The Corcinal Appeals this felled that quickly and said this
was a vote. The question was not did she vote?
It was did she actually realize that while she was
on felony supervised supervision that she wasn't allowed to vote?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Okay, so the ballot was never cured, so it wasn't counted,
so she didn't vote.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
How else she didn't vote?

Speaker 22 (44:45):
How else does? How else?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Does the Court of appeals weigh the sufficiency of the
evidence Without weighing the evidence, they.

Speaker 20 (44:56):
Look at the evidence most favorable to the verdict. So
they're not trying to figure out did they get it right.
They look to see if there's evidence so you.

Speaker 21 (45:03):
Find your conclusion.

Speaker 20 (45:06):
Then an argument, they have a conclusion guilty of the offense.
So now they're going to look and see is there
evidence that supports that. Now, a normal try or a
fact would say, look, this person testified and I don't
believe anything they had to say, or this person testified
I believe everything they had to say. Or you have
another witness that says I believe some of it, but
part of that doesn't bring true. That's what a trier

(45:29):
a fact does. That's not what an appellate court does.
An appellate court looks at the law, not the facts.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
It is sad to say that it is still true today.

Speaker 17 (45:39):
But Brother Malcolm X said this, The most disrespected person
in America is the black woman. The most unprotected person
in America is the black woman. The most neglected person
in America is the black woman. You see, historically we
have been your mammies, your maids, and your mistresses. But
today we are your doctors, your lawyers, your judges, your teachers,

(46:00):
your professors, your county commissioners, your vice president, and your
Supreme Court justice.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
Indeed, we are the backbone of this democracy we.

Speaker 22 (46:08):
Call the United States.

Speaker 17 (46:10):
So instead of wasting our taxpayer dollars as DA Sols
just went after going.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
After a black woman.

Speaker 17 (46:16):
Who's been acquitted of an eight year ordeal, why don't
you go after the candidate who was declared ineligible to
run for Mansfield is d Trustee place too, who did
vote in the March Republican primary despite being ineligible at
the time.

Speaker 23 (46:30):
I believe Crystal Mason did not know she was not
eligible to vote when she cast a provisional ballot. She
only voted a provisional ballot and it was never cured
and her vote was never counted. She served time in
jail and her case went through the courts and appeal process.

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I believe the only reason DA Searles wants to reverse
her appeal is because he wants to engage in voter suppression.
He just wants to instill fear in voters.

Speaker 24 (47:06):
I'm adding my voice of disbelief to the action of
the district Attorney and seeking to restore Crystal Mason's conviction.
As the appellate court noted in reversing the conviction, the
state's evidence was not sufficient to quote prove beyond a
reasonable doubt that she actually knew that being on supervised

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release after having served her entire federal sentence of incarceration
made her ineligible to vote by casting a provisional.

Speaker 22 (47:34):
Ballot when she did so.

Speaker 24 (47:36):
Yes, voting is a cornerstone of our democracy, and that
is exactly why the prosecution against her never should have happened.

Speaker 25 (47:47):
Our Tarrent County Day's office stage at our quotes. Voting
is a cornerstone of our democracy. This office will protect
the ballot box from frosters who think are laws don't
apply to them. Now, when your office is given information
about Angel Holdaco, a disgraced in eligible mansfell, I is
the school board candidate for place two.

Speaker 26 (48:10):
You chose not to act.

Speaker 25 (48:12):
Even our local school board, which does lack integrity, chose
to at least find mister Hobdaco eligible, and even if
he received the most votes, he would not have been
able to actually take a position on our local school board.

Speaker 27 (48:26):
The public is not on your side on this issue,
Tha Souls, which is concurring with the Texas Court of
Criminal Appeals ruling which acquitted or of any wrongdoing.

Speaker 21 (48:34):
Why is our DA now appealing this acquittal.

Speaker 27 (48:36):
Maybe it's because the so called voter Integrity Task Force,
which has prosecuted zero offenses, grasping at straws to justify
the expense of our county taxpayer dollars. Maybe it's because
we like to type target minority women of color to
intimidate them not to show up at the polls. Maybe
it's an homage to Trump's call to Tarrant County when
he lost the vote to Biden in twenty twenty, to
look into voter fraud in line with his lies that

(48:58):
the election was stolen. I am tired of our county
officials wasting tax money while targeting people of color as
their expression of allegiance to Trump. I am tired of
black Tarrant County citizens being disenfranchised, dehumanized, and incarcerated based
on illegitimate and incompetent charges. The money wasted on useless
voter suppression tactics would be better spent on a public

(49:19):
defender's office specializing in mental health.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I now is Tarrant County Commissioner Elisa Simmons. Commissioner Simmons,
glad to have you here. It is abundantly clear that
this is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars. Have you
Commissioner Brooks or any other commissioner asked this DA to
tabulate how many hours I have been committed by the

(49:45):
Tarrant County DA's office to this single case.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
Not yet.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
What I did yester or Tuesday was ask how much
of our tax pair dollars will be committed to this frivolous,
wasteful pursuit to overturn the appeal? If you have time

(50:12):
to listen to that entire exchange. He said something about
committing one attorney to this case. He wouldn't give a number,
and made some asinine comment again about saying, well, he's

(50:37):
going to commit one attorney to this appeal, just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Well, what was it nonsensical? This was twenty sixteen. We've
had the twenty eighteen midterms, the twenty twenty president's election,
the twenty twenty two midterm election, now moving towards the
twenty twenty four president election, and they still don It's like, dude,
it's one person.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
One person. Look this DA and as you said.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
The ballot never counted. It was a provisional ballot. It
was never processed. It was never it never went through.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
This guy is trying to make a name for himself
and he sees this as an easy way to do it.
I guess they ought to be embarrassed. Look this guy,
Judge Charles da the DA, the sheriff, the MAGA Sheriff

(51:35):
Bill Wayburn, and our county judge who you you just
watched be rude to the audience because they.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
Moaned or sighed or something like that.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
These three guys came up with this election integrity unit.
So we now have this election integrity unit that we
you know, we have to pay staff to staff it,
and they are they're supposed to go out and receive

(52:08):
identify cases of alleged voter fraud. This county has had
probably three to five voter fraud cases in the past decade.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
There there is no.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
There's no proliferation of voter fraud in Terran County. So
I guess they're going to keep going after poor miss
Mason to try and prove it doesn't make sense. The
public commentors said it much better than I can.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
You heard them.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
This is a waste of taxpayer dollars for a sufficiency,
just all of it.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
It's ridiculous. And we had.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Probably a historic turnout Tuesday for a number of reasons,
and because I anticipated the turnout, I this topic and
you saw this DA's poor performance in answering questions from
a late person. Right, I'm not an attorney, and this

(53:12):
is embarrassing and I will continue to call this crap
out until I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Are you planning on keeping this on the agenda every
month to force this DA to come before the court
and explain himself because his money comes from the taxpayers.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I like that idea. I've done it before on a
different issue. I just agendazed it week after week after
week after week.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
So so y'all, y'all meet weekly or monthly, and we.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Meet the first and third Uesday of each month.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I will listen. I would haul his ass down, have
him have to stand there every week and defend this,
and hopefully people keep coming out and protesting because it
is shameful. And what are your other colleagues saying? I mean,
are any of them ticked off by by this constant pull?

(54:07):
Commissioners up? Go ahead, show the graphic. Are any of
them standing with you saying, da, this is idiotic? What
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
No now? In his defense, Commissioner Brooks was out yesterday.
I think you said a conference or something. But the
other three sat there dead silent. The one in the
center is the ring leader of all of this. You know,

(54:38):
we we have a Maga court. You see the Precinct one,
Precinct two where the Democrats and then the other three
are maga and so we frequently get out voted on everything.
Whatever we put on the agenda for our constituents, our communities,
our nonprofits get voted down by these three. So you know,

(55:01):
people have to vote, but we will keep You know,
the two of us won't be able to do anything
about Ms Mason except for call it out, get the
public commenters down there to speak to it. We had
a record amount of public commenters yesterday and Tuesday, and

(55:24):
many of them spoke to this issue. This is ridiculous
when I tell you how overcrowded our jail is. Something
done needs to be focusing on reducing the backlog of
viable cases, viable cases that he has. But no, he
wants to play games with this woman's life and with

(55:47):
our taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Y'all.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
It is crazy here.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Terran County is the last large urban red county in
this country and they are not wanting to lose because
they would like to play games like this with this
woman's life.

Speaker 28 (56:05):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I'm gonna put in my panel right now. A Recy
Colbert hosts series Exit Radio show out of DC, Doctor
Grey Card Department of Back for America Studies and Howard
University out of DC. And law Victoria Burt writing for
a Black Press USA out of Arlington, Virginia.

Speaker 26 (56:20):
Lawnye.

Speaker 29 (56:21):
First, I'm wondering, why have you heard from anyone from
like a national organization that does voting. I mean, obviously
black voters are always told, of course to vote harder
and all that. I'm wondering if you've heard from the
national NAACP or even the White House on this, because
it seems to me that this person, Phil Sorels, who's

(56:42):
obviously obsessed with Crystal Mason, he should get his wish
with regard to being famous. He should be made famous
by every voting rights organization, anybody who cares about voting
rights in the United States, and he should be made
famous for all the wrong reasons. Have you heard from
anybody on sort of a national level.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I have not, no, ma'am, not since he announced this
on back on April twenty fifth. Now, Crystal has some
great local attorneys and her she has ACLU of Texas
attorneys as well, and so I consulted them just in

(57:21):
the past week about this case and how I should
approach my line of questioning.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
But this guy was so abrasive and you know, and dismissive.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
And I've been here since ten am, So I'm not
going to stay here any longer. You ask your questions now,
I have work to do, so but no, I have
not heard from the national organizations. But I need to
and I need some help this And I appreciate this forum.
And I know you've had Attorney Kim Coles on before.

(57:56):
I appreciate this for him to hopefully elevate this and
get this out there.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
I need help.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
There are only two of us, and it takes you
got to counsel absolutely.

Speaker 30 (58:11):
Reci Commissioner, thank you for being here. Can you explain
exactly the process this hearing. I wasn't really clear if
this was a hearing to grant his appeal or this
is a hearing to just explain his appeal. Can you
walk us through where exactly this is in the process
of this, this DA trying to recharge Crystal Mason.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Well, she was acquitted or got the ruling I think
it was March March twenty eighth.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, there's March twenty six. You get the Court of
Appeals that throughout her conviction. And so the Tan County
DA is seeking to appeal that ruling of the Court
of Appeals.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Okay, and so what you what you just witnessed commissioners
meet the first and third Tuesday of the month, and
so this was our first meeting since the DA announced
he was going to appeal that ruling. Okay, And so
I agendized this to get a briefing from him. He

(59:21):
needs to come to Commissioner's court and tell us why
he has chosen to appeal this, what is going to cost?
So on and so forth, And so he was there
to take our questions. And so when we have an
item that is agendaized, the public can sign up to
speak to it.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
And so they also asked questions and had comments to make.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
So that's what you were watching the first Commissioner's court
since his announcement that he was going to appeal.

Speaker 31 (59:57):
Greg, Thank you will and thank you Commissioner Simmons.

Speaker 32 (01:00:02):
In reading one of the reports about the what what
we were just viewing in terms of the meeting, I
read that Crystal Brown, Afforence Hill resident said that she
wanted to thank mister O'Hare for waking the sleeping black
panther of tarant County. I'm wondering if this, if you
see this perhaps a galvanizing moment. And and forgive me

(01:00:24):
if I have this incorrect. But last month, did this
Punk O'Hare, this faith, family and freedom? Punk the judge
judge did he did he tell you you'll sit there and
be quiet.

Speaker 31 (01:00:35):
I'm just trying to I mean, these guys are talking
with punity.

Speaker 32 (01:00:38):
How could this be a moment to spark black people
to finally get together in what appears to be a
county of over two million.

Speaker 31 (01:00:45):
People majority nine.

Speaker 32 (01:00:47):
I'm white at least if it's forty four percent, understand white,
although there's some white now his banks as well. You know,
could this be a flashpoint moment with these guys just
talking so crazy, telling you to be quiet, telling the
apparently law enforcement to be prepared to remove people from
the building if they.

Speaker 11 (01:01:02):
Look like they're going to be disrupted.

Speaker 31 (01:01:03):
They who the hell did they think they're talking to?
Commission and to kind of get.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
Our people fat, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Yes, So our last meeting, I questioned a contract that
he had on the agenda to hire a Republican political
consultant to work in his office.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
Well, we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
We don't pay use county tax dollars to pay Republican
or Democratic political consultants to work for.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
Us, you know.

Speaker 26 (01:01:37):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
And so I questioned his contract.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Commissioner Brooks, the brother you see, questioned the contract really
went hard on him, and the public speakers did. And
so I went last and I said, well I agree
with Commissioner Brooks, and he lit into me and tried
to question me about his contracts. Well, you have staff

(01:02:04):
that are posting political stuff on your I said, we're
not talking about my social media, we're talking about your contract.
And he tried to ask me questions. I said, okay,
I'll answer one of his questions. In the process. He said,
you be quiet, you sit there and listen to me
until I'm finished. And so, uh, you got to see the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Video and I we got to We're gonna find that video.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
I cussed, really, I'm not the guy I cussed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Don't let how I cussed really back, but I didn't,
and I just simply said, who are you like? You
cannot tell me when and when not to speak. And
so that was the thing that caught everybody's attention. And
so a lot of local organizations, white, black, purple, Hispanic

(01:02:58):
faith based not.

Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
The Divine Nine.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Planned uh direct action, and yesterday or Tuesday, they came
to court, and because I knew that they were planning it,
I was not in on the planning. I decided, I'm
going to agendie Crystal Mason.

Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
And I was quite alarm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Because we we will have a lot of people there.
I was hearing a lot of people were coming. So
I decided, let's let's agendize Crystal Mason. So the people
aren't there at a Commission's Court meeting board listening to
us talk about contracts for hvac Agendae Crystal Mason. I
agendize the jail debts. We have a proliferation of jail debts.

(01:03:46):
We had two in a matter of four days. The
last one was after an altercation, and so I agendized
the sheriff to come give us an update on that.
I agenda azed a DA to come give us a
briefing on the Crystal Mason case. The sheriff refused to come,

(01:04:08):
and anyway, they got win that there was going to
be a crowd there and we had historic attendants. They
had to do two overflows.

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
They had.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
My staff came and got me from the parking garage
because now I have to have some personal protection when
I'm downtown. And I got We walked up to the
building and I said, what on earth is all all
of this response?

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
There were sheriff units around the building.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
There were forty sheriff's deputies teeming all throughout the small
administration building.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
They were everywhere, just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Just disrespectful because you anticipate black people are coming.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
To their Commissioner's Court, just like the White House.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
That's the people's house, mississ Court people's house, and so
it was a galvanizing moment. So I had there were
people there talking about the disrespect to Simmons, Commissioner Simmons,
Crystal Mason, and the jail debts, and so it was overflow.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
We had pastors.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
And bishops and it's just so many people. And the
good thing about it is they were amazed. There were
two megachurch pastors sitting in my office after a break
and I went to speak to them and they said,
I'm sorry, we had no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
This is what Commissioner's Court deals with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
I said, oh, how long have you been sitting here?
They've been there since ten o'clock. And watched that man
talk rudely. He didn't want the people to speak. They
couldn't side, they couldn't clap, they couldn't And understand, in
Texas all turn and fifty four counties they have a
five member commissioners Court. Right the county judge has no

(01:06:04):
more authority than the four commissioners. He presides the meetings.
He can declare an emergency without the commissioner right, like
a burn band, you know, if it's you know, summertime.

Speaker 6 (01:06:18):
Cras is dry. He can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Other than that, he has no more authority than I do.
He has no more influence, has no more influence over
the budget. But the power this man has is he's
got three vote.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Right, it's look, it's look. In Harris County, Democrats now
control the County Commissioner's Court, which is why they've been
trying to take out Lean the Hidalgo. And so because
that's the case down they broke. They broke the Republican grip.
Republicans used to control the Dallas County Commissioners Court. Now
Democrats controlled that as well. And that's really what's what's

(01:06:52):
taking off. All these maga Republicans and Democrats controlled Dallas County,
they control Harris County, they control Bear County, they controlled
Travis County, and so Terror County is really the last
large county in Texas that Republicans have control over. Well,
you can go ahead. Here's so you can go ahead
and tell the Sheriff's department that they gonna need to

(01:07:16):
do that again. I've already sent a text message to
a variety of folk. We plan on coming down to
Fort Worth to also have a larger rally. And so
I've reached. So I've been talking to Reverend Frederick Douglas Haynes,
who's there in Dallas, and so we'll be communicating with
you getting information on the next Commission's meeting when we

(01:07:37):
plan this action. Because this is not just Crystal Mason.
Is what they did to the brother in Harris County
who stood in line for six hours. They scared that
brother to deaths so bad he says, I'm not gonna
vote any election again. We saw what happened in Florida
when Ron Desandis sickest sickest dogs on formerly incarcerated folk,

(01:07:57):
arrested them. All the charges were thrown out out They
were trying to again keep those formerly costs ready to
folks from casting ballots. This is what Maccan Republicans are
doing across the country and so the amount of resources
to targeting this one woman is offensive. And that's why
I say Phil Sorels is terrorizing Christen Mason. Christ Mason,

(01:08:18):
there's an other way to look at this. Here. This
is one case eight years old. This man is spending
more time going after this one woman who cast a
provisional ballot than they do fighting other serious crime in
the county. In this shameful and but this is trying
to create a chilling effect to tell black folks in
Arran County We're going to do the same thing to you.

(01:08:41):
And so this is why black folks in Terran County
and foot Worth have got to rise up and vote
their numbers in these elections because these people can be beat,
but they have the power because we also don't turn
out in maximizing our numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
We have more registered Democrats in Tarring County than Republicans.
It's a turnout game, yep. These people got to turn out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
They can't call me yep, mad and upset.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Yeah right, And I've been I was the NUBA CP
president in Arlington for ten years and.

Speaker 6 (01:09:16):
So I've told people don't stop calling me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
And now gotten elected and I had more authority, more power,
more influences in double ACP president than I have.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Youre chapter president when I spoke there, Yes that was me, Yes,
all right, yeah, absolutely, well listen we're coming uh. And
so they they better add some more shaff folk because
the number of folks were gonna have out that is
gonna be much larger than what they saw this past week.
And the pressure has to stay on them. Uh, and

(01:09:47):
absolutely I would put his I would put Crystal Mason
on the agenda at every commissioner's meeting and that way,
that way he got to haul his behind there and
face the people and not behind not high behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yes, sir, thank you for hearing from me this. This
has been therapeutic. It is it is insane. Yep, what's
happening here?

Speaker 11 (01:10:08):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:10:09):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Tell Roy Brooks. I'm calling him next to have him
on the show as well, so as I saw him
a couple of weeks ago, So tell them I'm hitting
him up. Thank you, I appreciate it. Thanks about it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
I want to say thank you to everybody that came out.
It was, it was amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
It's a lonely proposition up there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
I'm just telling you, yep for the turnout overflow, seeing
people everywhere was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
All right, then you won't be the last time you
are on. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Folks who have a shameful story of police action, this
time out of Florida. A senior airman. A Black Air
Force senior airman has been shot and killed by Florida
Sheriff's deputies. Twenty three year old Senior Airman Roger Fordson
was faithly shot on May third after the Okahoosa County
Sheriff's office burst into his home. Report said the deputy

(01:15:58):
was responding to a called about a disturbance in progress
and reacted in self defense after seeing Fortune with a gun,
But family attorney Ben Crump says the officers were at
the wrong address and did not identify himself when knocking
on the door. Fortune reportedly on the phone retrieved his

(01:16:21):
gun when he did not see anyone outside, but the
knocking continued. Crump and Roger's family viewed the bodycam footage today,
being joins us right now, Ben, So, what the heck
happened here? What? What? What?

Speaker 26 (01:16:39):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
What were they even executing? Was a disturbance?

Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
Roland is unbelievable.

Speaker 35 (01:16:49):
This young man was a model United States member of
the Armed Forces. He has no criminal history in his background.
He was on the phone with him his girlfriend on
FaceTime the whole time leading up to this. The families
adamant everything that we know about this case tells us.

(01:17:13):
They went to the wrong apartment and when you see
what that door open.

Speaker 11 (01:17:19):
He told him to step back.

Speaker 35 (01:17:23):
Roger was very very respectful law enforcement.

Speaker 11 (01:17:28):
He stepped back in a split second.

Speaker 35 (01:17:30):
Roller in a split second, he shot him six times.
And what is being out of this argument, out of
this case is they keep saying, well, he had a
gun when he came to the door. What the reality
is is Chris said, they didn't hear the police identify themself.

(01:17:51):
He said who it is, and nobody identified himself based
on what the girlfriend said, and she's going to do
her own press conference. So it's not law than any translation.
But when he saw black man with a gun, even
though he was a law biding citizen with a registered
license to care what happened the Second Amendment rights that

(01:18:13):
police knit him up. And right after he shot him,
he did said while he was on the ground toast
the gun. He didn't give any verbal commands to drop
the gun and put your hands in the air when
he came open that door. And that's what's troubling rolling
They continue to try to justify the about killers.

Speaker 11 (01:18:34):
Even our best young people.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Did they knocked down the door or did fortune open
the door?

Speaker 35 (01:18:45):
They the video show that opens and less than a
second he didn't begin shooting.

Speaker 11 (01:18:56):
Hear him six times.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
So wait a minute, force An opens the door and
instead the officer saying come out with your hands up.
The moment he opens the door of the officer starts firing.

Speaker 11 (01:19:13):
Starts firing. Brother, when you see this video, you out roland.

Speaker 35 (01:19:17):
I mean it is deplorable when you look at how
fast he took this young man's life. And this young
man was outstanding every way. He was a special ops roller.
He had build a tour of duty. He was taking
his mother and was that he wrote to his little

(01:19:38):
nine ten year old sister sixty yard brother. In fact,
there's a photo we'll get to you. He was so
proud of being in the United States Air Force. He
had an airman's uniform all and he bought his nine
year old little sister at the time airman's uniform. And
it's so adorable because he's she is saluting him, and

(01:19:59):
that it's the type of person we had that they
are trying to make out to.

Speaker 11 (01:20:06):
Be the bad guy. He wasn't the bad guy. He
was a good guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Questions from the panel recy.

Speaker 30 (01:20:17):
Yes, thank you mister Crump for bringing attention to this case.
What about the neighbor that supposedly led the police to
mister Forreston's door. What have they said, if anything about
the situation.

Speaker 35 (01:20:34):
You're brilliant, miss Reesi, because you get to the crux
of the matter when you listen to Foster video and
you listen to her described what's going on and that
it's fourteen oh one. Well, the reality is he is
in that apartment by himself on FACETWN for his girlfriend
with his little dog. There is no domestic disturbance. They

(01:20:57):
went to the wrong apartment and and God help that
least an agent at the apartment if she's the person
who's sending them to the wrong apartment, because that is
the question.

Speaker 11 (01:21:11):
We're at the right apartment.

Speaker 35 (01:21:12):
But even beyond that, you watch that video, I mean,
it has so many troubling questions that become a parent.
Number One, why did he give Verber commands to put
down the weapon, put your hands up firstus just not
loading on him. Number Two, when he's on the ground,

(01:21:35):
he then gives the command taught your weapon, and Roger
couldn't have been more respectful of authority. He said, I did.
And then when you get his girlfriend's FaceTime video. He's
saying I can't breathe, and I'm saying, Yelen, stop moving,
stop moving. He's like, I can't breathe and they don't

(01:21:58):
offer him any medical And you watched this. Twenty three
to old American patriot died right before our eyes.

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
Lauren Benis Lauren Burke.

Speaker 29 (01:22:14):
Do you know is there anything you can talk about
with regards to the police officer or the age of
the cop, any prior record of abuse, or the time
on the force, an any experience of that address before.

Speaker 11 (01:22:26):
Miss Lauren.

Speaker 35 (01:22:27):
We don't have any information about the cop. Obviously, they
want to try to assassinate this character because the first
statement that came out from them was they didn't Metchie
was a military officer anything. This is a Fort walteron
Florida with England Air Force Base, is that it's full
of military people.

Speaker 11 (01:22:47):
They didn't want to say that that. They said, officer.

Speaker 35 (01:22:53):
Responding to a dodmestic dispute kills a armed citizen, you
know itself defense. The issue is you came to his apartment.
He had every right to have a good This is Florida,
for God's sakes. Every citizen is encouraged to have a farm.

(01:23:15):
He is a officer who is militarily trained. He's one
of the people we want to have this. He's responsible,
he's very diplomatic, he's very for.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
A rural follower.

Speaker 35 (01:23:30):
I mean, he was the person who you would say,
if you're going to be a good owner, how about
we have that guy who's.

Speaker 11 (01:23:38):
Trained to use farms and so.

Speaker 35 (01:23:41):
But when he had that good they tried to say, oh,
it was self defense, and it suggested Lauren that he
did something bad, that he was a criminal or something,
when there was nothing further from the truth.

Speaker 11 (01:23:56):
The officer went to the wrong apartment.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Thanks this uh, this right here, give me one second.
I'm pulling it up. Give me one second. Uh, And
I'm gonna advance this because folks, this is the body
cam footage. I'll talk over. So go to the body
cam footage. This is the this is the deputy arriving

(01:24:20):
at the scene. The body camp footage was released publicly
just three hours ago, folks. And so all right, got it, folks,
turn it audio up. We'll stop talking. Turn it audio up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Go how you, sir?

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
What's going on?

Speaker 26 (01:24:42):
The one I'm not sure. I just was told to
let her know if you guys come by. So I'm
gonna give her a quick call let her know or
something that I was not ready for that.

Speaker 19 (01:24:56):
Okay, yes, are they fighting or something?

Speaker 11 (01:25:15):
Are you saying that it happens frequently?

Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
Okay, but this time getting out with hands?

Speaker 26 (01:25:20):
Okay? Which story.

Speaker 11 (01:25:25):
So I'm not hear?

Speaker 15 (01:25:26):
Two weeks ago, I was walking fri like black the.

Speaker 7 (01:25:28):
Department basically on this line, and.

Speaker 17 (01:25:31):
I was scary someone would like stupid me, were.

Speaker 6 (01:25:38):
Like what ater?

Speaker 11 (01:25:39):
But I wasn't from.

Speaker 7 (01:25:41):
Ok and I couldn't call it. I didn't want to
call it speed.

Speaker 9 (01:25:44):
Which room is it?

Speaker 11 (01:25:45):
Fourteen o one?

Speaker 9 (01:25:46):
Fourteen one?

Speaker 25 (01:25:47):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:25:50):
Fourteen o one the girl's own the scar of the
one at home?

Speaker 17 (01:25:53):
She said she was like sitting out of the sounds,
like sending her hear without of hands a bend.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
She said, fourteen o one was that fortune's apartment number?
It was yeah, okay, hold on one second, okay, got it?

Speaker 11 (01:26:20):
She said she wasn't sharing this, what whether duty was that?

Speaker 35 (01:26:23):
But then she said fourteen don't one.

Speaker 36 (01:26:29):
Three twelve one eleven, three twelve and one eleven man and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
S so door, sure's the door?

Speaker 7 (01:28:12):
What's about?

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Trump?

Speaker 28 (01:28:18):
Trop goud Trump the.

Speaker 37 (01:28:20):
Gup three twelve, shops fire, suspect them, do not move,
three twelve.

Speaker 26 (01:28:31):
Okay, you mess my location.

Speaker 11 (01:28:37):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Oh all right now let me just let me that's
that's the end of the bodycam video there. I mean,
absolutely been no warning. Door barely open, barely opens.

Speaker 35 (01:28:57):
The weapon, yep, go ahead. Didn't tell him to dropped
the rip. He didn't give a verbal command. Dropped the weapon.
Put your hands up.

Speaker 11 (01:29:04):
Nothing he said, step back. Roger was stepping back.

Speaker 35 (01:29:09):
Never raised the weapon right in his right hand, and
he just unloaded on the Roland Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
At no point, at no point in this did he
ever give the order to drop the weapon. Nothing. It
was like, literally that door opened, he saw a black
man with a gun, and he fired. And as you said,

(01:29:38):
we're in Florida. You can have a gun in your home, kid.

Speaker 11 (01:29:44):
Yep, yep, hey, Roland.

Speaker 35 (01:29:46):
It's so deep when you look at him on the
ground and he start giving the commands after he's been shot.

Speaker 11 (01:29:52):
I mean, Roger's even complying there.

Speaker 35 (01:29:54):
He says, toss the weapon, tossed weapon.

Speaker 11 (01:29:58):
And he said I tossed it.

Speaker 35 (01:30:00):
I mean, he couldn't have been more compliant, but it
didn't matter because for whatever reason, I think we all
know the reason, when he saw that.

Speaker 11 (01:30:08):
Good in his hand, he just said bad guy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
And Roger was damn.

Speaker 11 (01:30:17):
For his record. It's that flitting struggling.

Speaker 35 (01:30:20):
He was a decorated araman, he was in special ops.

Speaker 11 (01:30:24):
I mean he was doing everything right.

Speaker 26 (01:30:27):
Great car.

Speaker 31 (01:30:30):
Thank you Roland, I thank you, brother Crump.

Speaker 32 (01:30:33):
I wasn't aware that black people are encouraged in Florida
to be armed. In fact that I think we should
probably stop talking about a right to be on There
is no right to be anything in the United States
of America when you're black, not really, at least if
the law means more than just some words on the page.
But I want to ask you about the question. The

(01:30:56):
question I have to ask is what is the cost
to this struggle against these murder for us to continue
to frame the victims as good as opposed to bad
people when nobody shouldn't expect from what I've read, the
hunter has been put on administrative lead, probably paid. The
deputy hunter, the one who strode so confidently to the

(01:31:17):
door and as an accessory before the fact, named the
apartment fourteen oh one, certainly won't be punished she's a
deputy cop, as are all people who do this.

Speaker 9 (01:31:26):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 32 (01:31:27):
But what is the what's the strategic value of us
mounting a defense of someone as a good person, as
if there is anyone who deserves to be murdered by
these murderers?

Speaker 31 (01:31:41):
Is there some concession?

Speaker 32 (01:31:42):
And then there's the burden then shift from the killers
to the victims. When we start talking about good people
as opposed to bad people, shouldn't matter and why are
why not?

Speaker 11 (01:31:52):
You shouldn't matter?

Speaker 35 (01:31:53):
But unfortunately we live in America where race is always
an issue and they try to criminalize our race. They
were assaundate our character after they assassinate us, and that's
what they'll attempt me to do.

Speaker 11 (01:32:06):
He tried to say, self defense.

Speaker 35 (01:32:07):
It reminds you of both them Jean and Dallas Stations,
when the policewoman went to the wrong apartment and killed
him and they're talking about I was and filled my
life self defense. It's the same notion that it doesn't
matter how good the black person is, they still try
to justify the unjustified for killings of our people.

Speaker 11 (01:32:31):
It happens over and over.

Speaker 35 (01:32:32):
Antianna Jefferson, I mean, we could just go down the list,
and it's all these black people who are in their
own home, in the safety of their own dwelling, their
castle and their saint you.

Speaker 11 (01:32:44):
Wary Breonna Taylor.

Speaker 35 (01:32:46):
But yet they all get killed in that and then
they all try to justify and so it shouldn't matter
whether they have an unblemish record or not. But we know,
without a shell of a doubt, if he would have
had a take It past, that's all we would have
heard about for the victim. We still won't know anything
about this killer officer. We won't hear one word about

(01:33:09):
his past.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Ben Crump. We hate to have to have you on
for these type of stories, and we hate to have
to show those videos, but the reality is we left
with no choice because this is what happens to us
all too often. We will keep out on this case
and we will certainly see what's next.

Speaker 11 (01:33:32):
Hey, thank you, Roland Martin, thank you for covering our stories.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 26 (01:33:36):
Ben.

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Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Well, a few moments ago to the Florida and of
Trustees meeting ended where they were discussing this multi million
dollar donation from A. Gregory Jerami and the Isaac Batterson
the Seventh Family Trust. The check presentation took place this weekend,
where he also was the commencement speaker. It is the
largest donation given to Florida A and M, and certainly

(01:36:19):
one of the largest to an HBCUN history. The board
had an emergency meeting today because there have been so
many questions surrounding this particular gift. This year was the
video of Florida A and M released on social media
about this donation, turning all you up, polease, I mean.

Speaker 38 (01:36:45):
And sinus agreement on the behalf of Florida M University
Tame Family Foundation.

Speaker 39 (01:36:51):
The two hundred and thirty seven million dollar gift is
more than the size of the family endowment value and
represents one of the largest single personal donations to a
historically black college and university.

Speaker 40 (01:37:05):
Feel to give back to HPCU at this level, it's
important to me to be able to choose for our
foundation to be able to choose a university where our
legacy will continue and will be the most impactful for
generations and generations to come. God is the most important
thing to our foundation in US.

Speaker 39 (01:37:24):
President doctor Larry Robinson says this donation will have a
far reaching impact on the academics and the athletics programs
at Florida A and M University.

Speaker 28 (01:37:34):
Well, we are.

Speaker 38 (01:37:34):
Exhum and grateful and ecstatic about this game changing the
nation of Florida.

Speaker 9 (01:37:40):
And M University.

Speaker 39 (01:37:41):
Jerami is the founder of Battison Farms Corporation and a
champion of sustainable agriculture and biodegradable hemp products in Texas
for Florida A and M University. I'm Jovonni Hampton.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
All right, folks, Well, after that news came out, it
took everyone by surprise. So folks begin to ask themselves
the question, who is this guy? Who is Gregory Jerami? Well,
Jerrell Blakely peen and op ed in education newsflash called
for the love of money? Has fam you been fooled?

(01:38:15):
He's been posting a number of different things on social
media about Gregory Jarami and these are questions that, frankly,
were not answered in today's board meeting. Jeremy Jones us
from Indianapolis. So glad they had Drell's sorry from Indianapolis.
So Jerrell, I listened to about an hour of the
board meeting. I had to go live on the show,

(01:38:36):
and so I'm listening to this conversation and they had
the company on that handles investments for Florida A and M,
and they were talking about paperwork things along those lines.
So basically those guys did not vet any of this,
and so then I had to jump off right when
they had the official on talking about the vetting process
and how this Jerami reached out to them, how they

(01:39:00):
getting to have conversations with him. He wanted to make
a donation to the school. After the Spellman donation was
announced one hundred million dollars, they said, well, he wanted
to increase his offer. Then they begin to talk about
this courtship. So basically, just for everybody who doesn't understand,
Famue has not gotten any money, there's actually no money.

(01:39:21):
So this's two hundred and thirty seven million dollar number
that people are hearing. This number, it's not a real number.
What he has given them is stock certificates in this
privately held company where he has assigned the value of
these stocks to be two hundred and thirty seven million dollars.

(01:39:46):
And what they did was so he has signed, if
I'm correct, a fifteen dollars eighty five cent price per share,
and he's given Florida A and M University fifteen million
shares in this company. But it's a private company, so
the reality is it's not a publicly traded company right now.

(01:40:09):
So until there's an IPO or until someone probably buys
this company, Florida A and M ain't got no money
from this guy, right? Did you hear the same thing
that I heard?

Speaker 41 (01:40:26):
Well, first, brother Roland, thank you for having me on here.
I'm really honored to be on here to discuss this
very important issue. Today's foundation board meeting at FAMU was
a disgrace, and I believe that it was a symbol
of institutional failure at Florida A and M University.

Speaker 26 (01:40:48):
What we learned today was that.

Speaker 41 (01:40:51):
The trust contains seven or million shares of worthless stock.

Speaker 26 (01:41:00):
There is no value to batters and farms.

Speaker 41 (01:41:03):
It doesn't have any land, it doesn't have all of
the necessary licenses, it doesn't have any employees, it doesn't
have any revenue that would allow it to be evaluated
anywhere near one hundred million dollar evaluation.

Speaker 26 (01:41:21):
And so today's meeting was disturbing the city lease.

Speaker 41 (01:41:27):
The fact that Florida A and M allowed this man
to basically calm them into accepting work led the president
and leadership to not share this with their board, either
the foundation board or the university board because of a NDA.

(01:41:51):
Is quite frankly preposterous for fam you to basically share
that they received a worthless gifts. I mean right, it
means nothing. I mean, it's completely I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
This is just for everybody who's who's watching. Okay, I
have I own this company, I own Blackstar Network. It's
a private company. If I do I right now, I
could say, I'm gonna gift Texas other University. I'm gonna

(01:42:26):
gift Paul Quinn College fifteen million shares of stock in
the Blackstar Network. Now, even though I have an actual company,
I've got employees, I've got revenue, I can then say,
and this is listening to the call, I could say,
I am assigning a value of this stock of fifteen

(01:42:47):
dollars and eighty five cents a share. I can just
do it on my own, no one, because what happens
is unless there's an IPO there, you can call it
whatever you want to call it. That's what this guy
has done. Well, So let me actually and then drell.

(01:43:07):
When I was listening, here's what I never heard, and
I was waiting on it. Did FAM you leadership ever
visit this guy's company? Did they ever visit his office?
Did they ever confirm how many employees he has? Go
to my iPad? Tallahassee Democrat has this story woman listed

(01:43:31):
as co CEO with fam You, donor says she never
worked for him. Kimberly Abbott, who formerly served on the
City Council in Birmingham, has known Jeram for years, long
before the thirty year old was celebrated for his donation.
In an operation that Jerame himself says, employees only a

(01:43:54):
few full time administrators in a workforce of seven thousand
contract employees. Abbott was listed as co CEO and Vice
chair of Batterson Farms Corporation, where Drama is CEO. When
I asked if she worked at Batterson Farms, Abbot said,

(01:44:14):
I never did, Darrell. That's called massive red flag.

Speaker 41 (01:44:20):
So here's the thing, Brother, Roland. They didn't even have
to visit these places. They could have merely googled. So
when I heard about this for the gift and on Saturday,
I just googled. It took me about ten fifteen minutes
to realize that this was a complete hoax. I don't

(01:44:40):
understand how it took me ten minutes to figure out
that this was a hoax. And it took fam You months.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
Of six months, they claimed. They claimed it was a
betting process that lasted six months.

Speaker 41 (01:44:57):
It took me, it took me fifteen minutes to real
that this was completely a hoax, which I was able
to op ed so quickly because it was a parent
And so the fact of the matter is, this is
a embarrassing and I feel really bad for a number
of reasons. Number one, the students, you know, those students

(01:45:17):
who graduated.

Speaker 26 (01:45:18):
From Florida A and M University worked really hard.

Speaker 41 (01:45:20):
To graduate and the fact that they had to hear
from this flim flam artist was actually shocking. I can
remember my commencement of the dress speaker. I graduated from
Howard University and we had some really really esteemed individuals
to give the commencement address.

Speaker 26 (01:45:37):
The fact that the university, like fam.

Speaker 41 (01:45:40):
You, did not do their due diligence and allowed this
man to calm them. Listen, the president of what's that?

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Well for the people who were on the call, his
what's even crazy? They're on the call, they're discussing the donation.
I thought I heard this correct, Maybe correct if I'm
wrong where they said some questions came up and they

(01:46:10):
still let him speak. I was listening going along. Did
I just hear that? They literally said some questions arose,
but the president made the decision. Yes, let's move forward
him as commencement speaker.

Speaker 26 (01:46:23):
I was like, so let me say this, So, so
let me say this, FAM, you deserves better.

Speaker 41 (01:46:28):
The fact that this happened is an institutional failure of
massive proportions. The fact that this man was vetted or wasn't,
wasn't and they allowed him to speak, it's just outrageous.
And so you know, it took me just a few
moments to realize that this gentleman was a fraud of
a hoax.

Speaker 24 (01:46:48):
Uh.

Speaker 41 (01:46:48):
And so I don't understand how you had an entire
university infrastructure. I was listening to the vice president of
advancement and the head of the foundation who actually mentioned
that she didn't actually even google this gentleman, or she
didn't do any due diligence. When you look at it
was very easy to figure out that this guy was

(01:47:09):
not closher. When you look at what he did at
Coastal Carolina University, they could literally pick up the phone
and call the advancement office, Hey, what's the deal with
someone who is giving this large amount to FAM you?
And so overall, I just want to say, FAM, you

(01:47:30):
deserve so much more. And for folks who think that
I'm picking off am you. I'm a Howard graduate. If
this happened at Howard, I would do the exact same thing.
I just think that it speaks to a culture at
famu's leadership that allows himself to be connd when they
literally could have spent fifteen minutes or ten minutes and

(01:47:50):
realized this was not to be.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Let's be clear, though, you pulled us up. First of all,
the guy just created a website. I mean you if you,
if you do a search, it is as if this
guy's a ghost. But when you pull stuff out, when
you pull stuff up, and I'm just short of sort
of shaking my head, going, what in the hell were

(01:48:14):
the family you folks doing? And uh, of course the
president now says they're putting this thing you know, you
know on ice. But I'm still not trying. I'm still
trying to understand some basic things. What does he have
a real business? Have you seen it? Have you been
through the offices he supposedly is The stocks are in

(01:48:39):
hydroponic and agriculture business. Have you seen any of it?
Has anybody with Florida and him physically said yes, we
visited this corporate office, we saw the farms, we met
with workers on that everything I heard in that call,
nobody ever said that. When I got off after about
an hour, did you hear anybody say that?

Speaker 26 (01:49:02):
No, So that is what's actually outrageous.

Speaker 41 (01:49:05):
The fact of the matter is you have an advancements office,
you have a president, and the fact that the president
did not let the board know is malfeasance of a
highest level. I can tell you that it's in competence.
And I'll just say this, fam you deserves better. The
fact that an esteem university that was led by so

(01:49:27):
many great people has fallen to these sort of levels
is really a shame. The class of twenty twenty four
had a very difficult time. You know, they started college
in the middle of a pandemic, and they deserve to
have a commencement address a speaker. So I'll tell you
what I am willing for nothing. I actually make a donation.

(01:49:50):
I am willing to give a commencement address at Florida
and M University so that they can hear.

Speaker 26 (01:49:56):
From someone who basically did more work to uncover this.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Uh ja.

Speaker 26 (01:50:05):
They were educated at Hell.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
I spoke Saturday at Wilberforce graduation. Uh and I've done
Stillman South Carolina State Lane, I got a real resume.
This dude ain't got no resume. I mean, this Batterson Farms,
this I mean and the seventh the family Trust. All

(01:50:26):
this stuff sounds great, and it's just like, what are
y'all talking about.

Speaker 41 (01:50:33):
I'm gonna say this if you're if you are familiar
with New Jack City, there's a scene where Nino Brown
is in the board room where he's going around.

Speaker 26 (01:50:43):
Saying, nobody know nothing.

Speaker 41 (01:50:46):
I mean, the fact of the matter is, how this
could happen is an institutional disgrace.

Speaker 26 (01:50:52):
And I'm not picking on fam you you know.

Speaker 41 (01:50:54):
The fact of the matter is it doesn't take a
PhD in nuclear chemistry. Like the president of the universe.
He has to figure this out. It took me fifteen minutes.
And I can tell you that I appreciate some of
the phone calls that I've gotten from the rattler nation
thanking me for this. But I can also say that
I was a little disturbed by some of the social

(01:51:17):
social media venom from some rattlers who oh.

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
Man, they were dog and you bro mind Joe. First
of all, listen, let's just be real, Frank. Let's be like,
where'd you go to college?

Speaker 26 (01:51:29):
I went to Howard University.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
Okay, all right, so you went to HBCU. Listen, I
went to Texas, A and M and HBCU. Folk are
protective about the individual school and HBCUs as opposed to
let's deal with the truth. And there were people who
were attacking you. They were attacking others as opposed to
finding out the truth. And you've been posting a number

(01:51:53):
of different stuff like is this the house he live in?
Is this the farm is I think you posted one
item where he supposedly said he bought some farm or
something and the property is still not so the thing
never went through. I saw one story where he reached

(01:52:14):
out to the University of Texas and they baby laughed
at his assy. He called the University of Texas to
try to give some money and the Universe of Texas
essentially laughed at him and hung up. But he's supposedly
based in Texas. Bruh.

Speaker 41 (01:52:32):
Come on, yeah, I mean, listen, I'll just reiterate, fam,
you deserves better. This is in the board meeting today
was an embarrassment.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
You tweeted a tie for an order. It's nasty work.
We'll explain that would happened.

Speaker 41 (01:52:49):
Well, what happened is they One of the board members
was suggesting that they do evaluate how they got here,
and it was a tie for like ten minutes, and
someone texted no, which broke the tie.

Speaker 26 (01:53:06):
Then there was another motion for a another sort of
audit and it passed.

Speaker 41 (01:53:12):
But the fact of the matter is the fact that
fam you board and the president allow that board to
go out in public like that and represent the university
like that is shameful. I work in nonprofit management. That's
what I do for a living. I'm a manager in

(01:53:34):
a educational nonprofit. If I embarrassed my board like that,
I wouldn't have a job. And I can tell you
that if everybody just goes along like this is no
big deal. The fact of the matter is this university
trumpeted in a consistent way the fact that they got

(01:53:56):
a quarter of a billion dollars when they really received nothing.
There has to be some consequence for folks.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
They got sheets of paper. Let's go to my panel.
Great car you first, you and me Greg, thank you wrong.
There you go, and it's good to see you for
the durell. I used to be a student a doctor Carr.
By the way, I took with doctor Carr at Howard.

Speaker 31 (01:54:24):
Absolutely, that's absolutely right.

Speaker 32 (01:54:26):
It's good to see your brother, and it's good to
see you continue in the great work that I encountered
when you were at the university.

Speaker 31 (01:54:32):
Man, it's good to see you in that regard.

Speaker 32 (01:54:35):
My question has to do with I guess I could
frame it by saying, we don't have all the facts.
I mean, we can certainly certain last things circumstantial. What
would your best advice be to Florida and m or
any Black institution for that matter, who finds itself in
a situation where they have received at least the propity

(01:54:58):
of a gift like this, and now.

Speaker 31 (01:55:00):
Everybody is basically deciding that there is no gift, there
is no money.

Speaker 32 (01:55:06):
I mean, what would you suggest to be their best
course of action at this point until the facts come out?
Because we know the facts have not yet been a steplished.

Speaker 41 (01:55:17):
Well, well, first I'll say, doctor Carr, that some of
the facts are out. So we do know that the
family trust consists of fifteen million dollars fifteen million shares
of Batterson Farms. We do know that Batterson Farms doesn't
have the licenses required to grow help, does not have

(01:55:40):
the employees, does not have any properties.

Speaker 26 (01:55:42):
And so we know that just because you say.

Speaker 41 (01:55:46):
A company is worth a billion dollars doesn't make it so.
And so I mean, I think it's important to deal
with that. But on the second level, and then also
there's just some questions, and I think research and articles
have proven that mister Germany is not who he says
he is, or he doesn't have the personal wealth that

(01:56:06):
he has. So those are two facts that I think
are important to consider. To your second part of your
question about what advice I would have, I would give
them the same advice that I would give any institution
to do their due diligence to ensure that they're doing
the proper sort of research and vetting to ensure that

(01:56:27):
something like this could never happen. Quite frankly, it doesn't
take a rocket scientist to realize to realize that this
was a situation that was not.

Speaker 26 (01:56:39):
Real.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
Well, here's the perfect example, jerreal hold on a second
d hold on. This is from the Tallahassee again. This
is the deal. An immediate availability raised by Famuly Monday.
Jerami told the Tellahassee Democrat an avid quote left us
maybe about a couple of months, maybe about a month ago.
She has more of an advisor role right now. She
had some health issues. When I asked later whether he

(01:57:02):
would be surprised to hear, Abbott said she was never
an employee of Batterson Farms and never received any compensation
as an employee. Drama said, quote, nothing surprises me any more.
He described her duties as co CEO. It's really just
there to God and give more advice. And she didn't
do as much work as others in the company. Her compensation,
he said, was given through penny stocks now right there,

(01:57:26):
right there. So what people need to understand, Darrell, we
talk about penny stocks. First of all, penny stocks are
publicly traded companies. That's I mean. So I think what
people don't realize is I can right now go out
and I can go buy a shell company. I can
go by and create a publicly traded company, and I

(01:57:49):
could be trading on with penny stocks. This is this
article right here shows you how he gets caught in
a life. So if you paid her through penny stocks,
what was the publicly traded company? What were the stocks
this woman is listening as co CEO? She now says,

(01:58:09):
I never served as CEO of the company. Hello, that's
red flag. And so what I don't understand is how
did the Family board today not vote to call for
an extensive examination and investigation and literally track these things down.
By the way, that was according to this same story,

(01:58:31):
there was supposed to be a meeting on Wednesday. You
see it right here. On Wednesday, a Family spokesperson and
by the Tallahassee Democrat meet to meet with Jerami and
officials of the university's foundation office. But moments before it
was scheduled to begin, a Family official said it was
canceled because quote, something came up. Unquote he said, any

(01:58:52):
future interview quote was unpaused. I'm sorry, that's a joke.

Speaker 41 (01:58:57):
Yeah, And I do want to say this, so I
want to answer the same and part of a brother
cars which is like an alpha.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Sort of meeting here what that's had always happened?

Speaker 41 (01:59:07):
But go ahead, absolutely so, So I will say this
to doctor Carr's point, it's important to do your due diligence,
and it's also important to inform your board.

Speaker 26 (01:59:19):
I think that is a massive failure on this part.
The fact that the.

Speaker 41 (01:59:23):
Foundation board and the university board was not informed is
a failure of just massive proportions. The fact that the
president is saying that they couldn't tell their board because
they had an n DA is crazy.

Speaker 26 (01:59:39):
The fact of the matter is the president is an
employee of the board.

Speaker 41 (01:59:43):
Yeah, so I mean that's just pure board governance and
just pure you know, organizational governance. And the fact that
he thought it was appropriate to say, hey, you know,
we couldn't tell you because we had an NDA.

Speaker 26 (01:59:58):
You know, you can't do anything.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
You were a state institution. And so even though you
are Florida A and M and you sign a NDA,
somebody in the state of Florida has the authority to
review the NDA. You are a state institution. You can't
just hide behind an NDA.

Speaker 26 (02:00:20):
And I'm going to say this again, and it's really important.

Speaker 41 (02:00:23):
This did not take a lot of work, right Like,
I knew immediately that this was bizarre, and within fifteen
minutes I realized it was completely.

Speaker 26 (02:00:34):
A joke.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
Right here, right here, right here, with a contact about
Tellhassee Democrat, the head of a Texas hemp grows association,
said he had not heard of Barrison Farms Corporation or Jerami.
Now you're supposed to be a big time hemp grower.
The Texas Hemp Grows Association might know who you are,
so so.

Speaker 26 (02:00:56):
Let me say this. You know, I think Jarami has
some challenges that I hope he is help for.

Speaker 41 (02:01:01):
I don't necessarily blame Durmi because it's obvious that he
needs help, right. Who I do blame is the university
that allowed themselves to be a poem yep. The fact
that they didn't do their due diligence and allowed this
man to give a commencement address that for me, speaks
to massive institutional failures that has to change.

Speaker 26 (02:01:22):
Fam You deserves better, and not only that, don't deserve this.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Now that Kim Godwin, who at the time was the
president of ABC News, of course, was out the next
day sent two camera crews to the graduation to cover it.
So recip go.

Speaker 30 (02:01:41):
Mister Blacklie, thank you for being here. I think it's
strange that families did less due diligence than Resattisa did
and who the f did I marry on TikTok. But
thanks to and part of your voice around this, this
has brought attention to a very are and strange scam.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
It appears.

Speaker 30 (02:02:02):
I just want to get your thoughts on the layer
protection and the defensiveness people seem to have around the
you know you specifically calling this out for what seemed
pretty outrageous from the start, and people's willingness to call
themselves digging up dirt on you as opposed to focusing

(02:02:24):
on the issue at hand, which it looked like FAMU
was being scammed. And have you gotten any retractions or
apologies for the people who were dragging you on on
the social media about this.

Speaker 41 (02:02:35):
Well, I'll just say that people are kind of quiet.
I haven't really heard anything recently since the board meeting.
Because it turns out I was one hundred percent right.
I don't purport to be perfect. I'm not purporting to
be a saint.

Speaker 26 (02:02:47):
You know. I've done things that I've regretted.

Speaker 41 (02:02:51):
But quite frankly, this isn't about me, and folks are
engaging in add horminum attacks. Don't make the story about me,
Make the story about what I'm saying about fam you.
And so it doesn't matter who I call what or
what I did when I was an elected official.

Speaker 26 (02:03:06):
That's in the past. I've moved on.

Speaker 41 (02:03:08):
The fact of the matter is I should not have
had to say this. It should have been something that
should have been captured months ago. The fact that this
gentleman gave a commencement address, and the fact that they
didn't do their due diligence is the reason why they're here.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
It's not.

Speaker 41 (02:03:26):
In fact, it should have been someone at fam You.
It should have been someone in the audience that said,
you know, this meeting, this commencement address is strange.

Speaker 26 (02:03:33):
Who's this guy?

Speaker 41 (02:03:35):
But the fact that the entire academic hierarchy at FAMU,
folks with PhDs, law degrees, JD's, PhDs MBAs allowed themselves
to allow this man to present a worthless check on
the stage of FAM You's graduation and have Charlie Wilson's

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I'm Blessed and the OJS for the Love of Money
playing is shameful. Like it's just it's the most ridiculous
thing ever. And the fact that they allow that to
happen is the story, not who I call what when
I was an elected official?

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
Lauren Jirell.

Speaker 29 (02:04:18):
Is there any possibility that fam you had some sort
of like Mackenzie Scott fever and thought that this was real?
They have they ever gotten another donation that was even
close to this type of donation?

Speaker 26 (02:04:31):
Well, I'll say that's a really good question.

Speaker 41 (02:04:33):
And so, I mean, the fact of the matter is
HBCUs deserve this kind of money, and it's unfortunate that
they don't get this kind of money. The highest contribution
to a historically black college was a recent donation to
Spellman College by the Striker family of one hundred million dollars,
which is the largest contribution to a historically black college ever.

Speaker 26 (02:04:56):
Compare that to Michael.

Speaker 41 (02:04:57):
Bloomberg's philanthropy towards Johns Hopkins, where he has donated three
point five billion dollars to one university.

Speaker 26 (02:05:10):
That three point five billion dollars is more than.

Speaker 41 (02:05:15):
All of the hpcu's endowments combined. And so I think,
you know, there's a desire. I can understand why one
official was crying, because this type of investment would have
been very transformational for Florida and m University and other
universities of similar stature.

Speaker 26 (02:05:35):
However, just because we want something to be true doesn't
mean that it is.

Speaker 41 (02:05:40):
And it's incumbent upon the people who are paid to
represent the university and to do their due diligence to
do the right thing. And so I know that, for example,
these types of investments just don't fall from the sky.
For example, the Striker endowment that was given to the
Spellman College.

Speaker 26 (02:05:59):
That strike has been on the.

Speaker 41 (02:06:00):
Board for thirty years and they have given a countless
money before that one hundred million dollar donation. And so
for FAM you to think that someone was going to
basically walk off the street and say, hey, I'm going
to give you a quarter of a billion dollars, particularly
when that person has no track record, you never heard
of them before, speaks to a level of gullibility that
is actually breathtaking and really really shameful. If I was

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a board member next week when the full board convenes,
I'd be wanting some answers, and if I didn't get
any legitimate answers, I'd be telling folks, we'll send your
box in the middle, you know, go home and do
something else with your career.

Speaker 26 (02:06:40):
This is a very big deal.

Speaker 41 (02:06:41):
The fact of the matter is this is an institutional
failure of huge proportions, and multiple people failed the university
and failed the students by not doing their due diligence.

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
So let me say this here for the again. What
was said on the call today, which was stunning, was
that this guy called out of the blue. He just
he just called the office one day saying I want
to make a gift, and they begin to have different
conversations about different gifts. And you heard Jirell mention one

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hundred million out of the Spellman on the calls. On
the Zoom call today, they said that after the Spelman
College donation was announced, Jerami came back and said, I
want to increase my gift to exceed the Spelman donation.
And they went, yay, this is absolutely insane.

Speaker 5 (02:07:39):
Lauren, No, I didn't have anything else, Thanks.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
Well, Jarrell. So what so this was the foundation meeting today?
What's next week? Actual board of trustees meeting?

Speaker 41 (02:07:53):
Yeah, I believe it's an actual board of trustee meeting.
I think an outcome of the Foundation board meeting the
press that Robinson mentioned that the sort of gift is
on hold, right, which is another example because the gift
is the gift was never on So how can it
be on hold if it was never on I think

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that the.

Speaker 26 (02:08:14):
Board meeting was outrageous.

Speaker 41 (02:08:16):
The fact that people just didn't follow on their sword,
or people just didn't say, hey, we messed up. I
just think really speaks to a culture. Listen, if doctor
Robinson has a job next week. I'd be shocked like
I couldn't. I couldn't imagine put.

Speaker 40 (02:08:31):
It like this.

Speaker 41 (02:08:31):
If doctor Robinson is able to survive this, the problems
that fam you are a lot more intense than even
this situation would imply.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
We shall see what happens next. Drell Blakeley, thanks a lot,
Thank you, sir. Take care all right, Fred, take care
we come back. Isaac Hayes the third joins us Protect
Talk segment. Man, my head, they're really from that FAMU segment.
We'll be back at A mom with.

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Elon Moss is talking about charging new users on Twitter.
Now you have Facebook calls of car Meta, who wants
to now start charging businesses to be on Facebook as well.
Don't think for a second these apps are going to
be free. Isaac Hayes, a third founder Fan based joneses
right now, Isaac, his was interesting here. Uh, these social

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media apps have been getting killed. When Apple made changes
to their phone ask long people to stop being tracked.
That's how they were making their billions. Now these companies
are freaking out. They got to figure out how to
find that money, and so they're going to start charging
folks to be on these platforms.

Speaker 26 (02:12:10):
Absolutely.

Speaker 42 (02:12:12):
I think when Apple and Google allow users to opt
out of being tracked when they're not inside the applications
that have prevented a lot of these companies from being
able to sell data and increased AD revenue. So for
that very reason, a lot of people, including myself, have
opted out of being tracked while I'm not using specific apps.
And so Instagram and Meta are finding a way to

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offset their costs with this new Meta verified for business
that's pretty pricey if you look at it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
Rowland absolutely and here's the deal we talk about this.
You know what happened. I remember when that happened because
what the phone, what the folk realized was hell, look
we got the power here. So Apple's all about privacy.
And when Facebook was getting crushed on Capitol Hill when
it came to selling of data, when they put that,

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that became it basically a poison pill for Facebook and
they've been really ever since. And so now you have
this new deal and they're starting in Australia and New
Zealand and they're going to be charging what fourteen ninety
nine a month for businesses.

Speaker 42 (02:13:15):
I'm going to tell you these prices fourteen ninety nine,
forty four ninety nine, one hundred and nineteen ninety nine,
and three hundred and forty nine nine.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
Yeah, the max plan is three hundred and fifty bucks
a month.

Speaker 42 (02:13:27):
Yeah, And I mean you're paying for more visibility, which
should tip people off to the fact that your content
is being suppressed, meaning like if they're making you pay
the scene and they're basically charging you to already be
visible to the people that already follow you, and they're
gonna allow you put links in your profile other things
like that.

Speaker 26 (02:13:47):
So I just found it extremely interesting.

Speaker 42 (02:13:49):
But this is just speaking more to the fact that
I think these platforms are trying to offset the cost
of losing ad revenue and they're so ad revenue dependent yep,
which they shift towards subscription based services, and social media
is changing, and this is kind of like a middle point.
This is like a way to kind of lead people
into where fan mase already because this is basically a subscription.

(02:14:10):
You're basically subscribing have more visibility on the platform, and
that's what Meta is doing with this program line.

Speaker 29 (02:14:20):
So, Isaac, don't you think the subscription model at some point,
and I'm talking to somebody who has a stream yard
platform is going to wear everybody out because now everything
is becoming subscription, everything is becoming pay me every month,
pay me something every month, and that's starting to get
that's starting to get old real fast.

Speaker 5 (02:14:41):
That starts to add up as you know.

Speaker 9 (02:14:42):
So I think the.

Speaker 29 (02:14:44):
Breaking point of the subscription model business may be.

Speaker 26 (02:14:49):
I don't see that.

Speaker 42 (02:14:50):
I think that there's still a wide community of people
that want to pay for content. It just depends on
what you're paying for. It depends on what you're subscribing for.
Because when you subscribe it fix every month, you're paying
twenty thirty dollars a month to subscribe to every single
piece of content that is on Netflix, and you might
not watch ninety nine percent of it, right, But if

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you could subscribe to someone for two ninety nine a
month and get an entire network of content specifically from
that person, then you would pay for that and get.

Speaker 26 (02:15:19):
Rid of Netflix.

Speaker 42 (02:15:19):
And so I think subscription fatigue is absolutely real. But
I think at subscription based services become more available and
more widely known, there will be niche communities that subscribe
to specific things that actually people are more interested in
a lot of Like with media now and television, you're
casting a wide net. A place like Disney Plus or
Hulu or Netflix is casting a wide net right as

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opposed to narrowing down on the very very finite group
of individuals that are interested in horror films or comedy
specials or you know, documentaries, and so I think that's
going to be something that's extremely important. And then with
the advent of AAI, I really feel like in more
life content which is called IRL, which we see a

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lot of the young streamers doing, is going to be
the real television, which is reality like reality is going
to be, you know, the most watched type of content.
More so the pre recorded film expensive content that people
are putting out nowadays.

Speaker 1 (02:16:17):
Thanks well, and their reality is Oh, I didn't want
to think about that, all right, reci.

Speaker 3 (02:16:23):
I guess can you.

Speaker 30 (02:16:24):
Talk a little bit about undemocratic our information is becoming?
I think people have this false sense of when they
search for something, they are getting results based on the
merit of the content that pops up, as opposed to
algorithms starting to manipulate and throttle different websites or different

(02:16:45):
content because of things like you mentioned subscriptions, you know,
paying for advertisements and things of that nature. Can you
talk about the information and the awareness that needs to
happen around that issue of social media.

Speaker 42 (02:17:02):
I think most users are really unaware that these platforms
are in competition with them. Every single person that's on
Instagram or Facebook, the app is working against you because
you yourself are a network. Every single person that has
a social media profile television network. And if a company
wanted to advertise with you, and you could consistently reach

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a million people, ten million people, one hundred million people,
you could just charge for people to post content on
your page. And the platforms know that though, so they
actually suppress your content and squish it down, and it
forces the companies to do things like advertise with them.
So this is just another way to continue to force
advertisers to either do business correctly with for the visibility

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that they should already have.

Speaker 1 (02:17:48):
For instance, so for instance, recing right, Beyonce has three
hundred and nineteen million followers on Instagram. The top the
top threashol hole for any cable network is one hundred million.
With cord cutting, we now seeing that. So basically at
its height, Seeing In was in like one hundred and

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five one hundred and ten million homes. That means that
Beyonce her Instagram page alon is three times bigger than
Seeing In was at its height. But if Beyonce goes
live right now, she will not have three hundred nineteen
million people watching her because essentially they capped that sucker

(02:18:30):
like you take Cardi B. I've seen us one night
Cardi B went live and let me just see her followers.
Cardi B has warned sixty seven million followers, she had
almost one hundred thousand people on. That means that Cardi
B was getting barely one percent of her following watching

(02:18:51):
her live. So they ain't gonna never let if a
Beyonce can hit three undred nineteen million people she can
make that's more people than who watch some bawl it is.
Can I let her make that money? They gonna make that.

Speaker 32 (02:19:04):
Money, Greg, thank you, Roland, And that kind of opens
the door to my question asked out of ignorance. But
after years of watching you operate, and after years of
a Brothers hearing your conversations with Roland and with all
of us, and maybe this is this again, I'm asking

(02:19:26):
out of ignorance, what do you see as the opportunity
or opportunities for black disruptors. Fan base is free, black
Star network is free. The idea that crowd sourcing financial
support while the push is Roland has been doing now
for quite some time to get those advertising dollars with

(02:19:47):
some success and then continuing to hold out the promise
and expectation that that success will improve. But what are
some of the opportunities for disruption? And you know, like
you said what you said about this fatigue, the subscription fatigue, you.

Speaker 31 (02:20:03):
Know, do you know more about it?

Speaker 32 (02:20:04):
I just feel like, maybe, like Lauren Prabs feels, is
she asked the question, at some point people won't get
sick of this, But what opportunities are there for the
models like fan base, likes like those who are disrupting?
Can Can there be some black disruption in the midst
of this kind of clawing at every penny people have
for subscription basis?

Speaker 26 (02:20:26):
I say absolutely.

Speaker 42 (02:20:27):
I mean I think infrastructure is what you're talking about, right,
And so for the most part, all these infrastructures, these tech.

Speaker 26 (02:20:34):
Companies are owned by people that are not black.

Speaker 7 (02:20:37):
Right.

Speaker 42 (02:20:37):
So Roland has the Blackstar Network, He's built an infrastructure
that's black owned. Fan Base is a black owned application,
a black onwed social media platform, and the infrastructure is
black on the reason why that is important, it's typically
because culture usually creates and modifies, shifts and guides technology
and the way that it's headed, what makes things cool,

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make things awesome, what makes set the trends.

Speaker 26 (02:21:03):
But then on the back end, who actually has ownership
of that?

Speaker 42 (02:21:06):
So my design Rowan's design and building these platforms is
that we can also be guides but also protect our
culture in a way that it's not exploited.

Speaker 26 (02:21:17):
But advertising is at play.

Speaker 42 (02:21:18):
Right, and I say this all the time, but a
platform like TikTok, right, TikTok wants very very famous white
creators on their platform because I always say, unfortunately, think unfortunately,
things built by black people are perceived to be only
for black people, but things built by white people.

Speaker 26 (02:21:34):
Are perceived to be for all people.

Speaker 42 (02:21:36):
So if I'm dunking, if I'm dunking coffee, do I
want a young twenty something year old white girl to
be the face of our brand or young twenty something.

Speaker 26 (02:21:45):
Year old black girl.

Speaker 42 (02:21:46):
You want the white girl because the white girl appeals
to white people, Black people, Asian people, Latino people, all races. Right,
But if you have a black girl, then most people
white people might opt out of that advertisement, other races
might opt out of that advertisement because of the girl
it's black. So we see black culture being appropriated but
then suppressed so that it can't thrive in the same way.

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So a platform like fan Base is not going to
allow that to happen. Number One, we don't run off advertising,
and two, I want to give everybody a voice. So
I want to make sure that people understand that fan
Base is not black only. But the fact that I
am a black founder it just means that I understand
the inequity that exists. And there will always be a
conversation and I always be a way that all voices
are heard, no matter what race you are, because we're

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not basing it on trying to suppress people's content to
make money. It's a community and I'm into community building,
and so that's really the most important part about this
is building a new community for people to be a
part of.

Speaker 1 (02:22:40):
And I'll say this here a perfect example. I saw
the news today. Go to my ipa where to Be.
They'll launch it something called Studios to fun and stream
fan green lit creative projects. They tapped Ray to mentor
aspiring filmmakers. And again here's a perfect example. Ray significant
brand and she has a fan base, but guess what

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to be is wants to bring her on cutting a
check to drive their value up. But guess what she
doesn't own to be. The Fox Corporation owns to be.
And so what we're talking about here, even when you
look at what your question, Greg and I look at
the work that Lauren does, what she's doing with her newsletter,
the work that Reese is doing as well, and what

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you're doing with Karen Hunter and with us with the
Black Table on Black Star Network. This is really the
hardest thing. This is the hardest thing, and that is
to get black people to decide do I want to
make black people rich or do I want to be
so associated with white folks that I have white validation.

Speaker 11 (02:23:50):
M see.

Speaker 1 (02:23:51):
We we just got to put it on the table.
We got to put it on the table because there
are black celebrities with massive following. And I know this
is Isaac and I talk. He's had the numerous conversations
and they are on other social platforms making nothing. But

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if you say, here's an equity stake, you can come
here and make millions. Yeah, but you're not them. Am
a lion, Isaac, I don't.

Speaker 26 (02:24:30):
I don't think you're lying. But I think we also
have to understand. I say this all the time.

Speaker 42 (02:24:33):
You know, and people like you rolling there's there's there
are black people in this country that understand that they
are not minorities by their their energy, or their effort
or their creativity. And so for me, I'm a person
that's never felt like a minority of living in Atlanta.

Speaker 26 (02:24:49):
And what I mean is when you grow.

Speaker 42 (02:24:50):
Up understanding that white supremacy runs everything and that you
have to fight your way through that.

Speaker 26 (02:24:56):
I don't fault the paths that Oprah and jay Z take.
I don't fight the path that you know. I don't.
I understand why because that's the only thing that they know.
They don't.

Speaker 42 (02:25:06):
I mean, we're getting to the point now where you
should know. I mean, you're out there, Roland, I'm out there.
We should know that we can actually invest in these
startups and scale these things to one hundred, two hundred,
three hundred billion dollar companies if we want to.

Speaker 26 (02:25:18):
But we have to get past that point.

Speaker 42 (02:25:19):
But I think that's hard to tell people to not
kind of like stop fighting right all you have If
there's no villain, then the battle is over.

Speaker 26 (02:25:27):
And what do I have to fight?

Speaker 42 (02:25:29):
And a lot of people want to be able to
fight through white supremacy to gain acceptance. But I've never
felt like I had to, so I never did. So
that's why I operate the way that I operate with
fan Base.

Speaker 1 (02:25:40):
So where that's where we are. So Isaac, first of all,
give us an update on your crowdfund.

Speaker 26 (02:25:47):
Everybody.

Speaker 42 (02:25:47):
I need you, guys, everybody who's watching right now. Go
to start engine dot com slash fan Base. It's on
my shirt if you can see it. And invest in
fan Base and get equity. We're raising seventeen million dollars
drop law a third please billion dollar raised, and there's
goals to this. There's like a five year plan, I
mean a three year plan to this. But our first
milestone is a two and a half million dollar mark

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that we want people to invest in. And the minimum
to invest in fan Base is three hundred and ninety
nine dollars and you actually get equity share stock. This
is not go fund me, This is not you know,
a kickstarter. This is actual, actual stock options.

Speaker 1 (02:26:24):
And it's also not a fake help farm because you
actually have a platform and office employees and actual revenue.
I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 26 (02:26:34):
I had to go.

Speaker 42 (02:26:35):
I had to go through the SEC multiple times. All
of our financials are available online. We actually got a
non review from the SEC, which is a good thing.
They trusted our paperwork and all of our due diligence
on our company so well that they had no objection
with us going ahead and launching this seventeen million dollars
round and significant because I'm very confident that I'm going
to scale fan Base to one hundred billion dollar company,

(02:26:58):
and right now we're valued at hundred and sixty million dollars.
We've gone from twenty to fifty to eighty five to
one hundred and sixty million dollar company, and I want
to continue to do that and build the first of
its kind black on social media platform that can be
a successor to a TikTok or on Instagram. All these
platforms aren't going to last forever. Facebook is not going
to last forever. Instagram is not going to last forever.

(02:27:18):
There will always be new platforms that emerge at young
people and other cultures migrate to to build communities.

Speaker 26 (02:27:24):
So I tell it before you do that, absolutely.

Speaker 42 (02:27:27):
Download fan Base, use it, come on board, make a
profiles free to download, free to use, but invest, and
that minimum is three hundred ninety nine dollars. You get
sixty shares at six sixty five a share, and I
think it's an excellent opportunity for people to get on
the cap table of a company.

Speaker 26 (02:27:42):
That's continued to scale and grow.

Speaker 42 (02:27:43):
We almost have seven hundred thousand users for in one
hundred and ninety countries on iOS and Android. We've got
some really cool functionality launching, especially next week, we've got
a whole new version of live launching, So you won't
be suppressed when you go live. You go live to
everybody that has fan base. It won't be capped by
your following, so it doesn't matter who's on fan base,
they'll be able to see your line, not based off
your following. It'll be open to anybody. So if you

(02:28:05):
want to DJ, if you want to do makeup, if
you want to talk, have conversations or whatever, that's something
that we'll be able to do. And because we've reached
this one million dollar threshold, we'll be able to add
our TMP streaming to the platform. So Rolling your show
will be able to be streamed on fan Base yep
me soon because now we've reached that threshold. So now
the Blackstar Network and Roland martin Field can also be

(02:28:27):
stream live on fan Base, and so I'm excited about that,
and that's what investing does. It allows us to continue
to build the company and scale the company. So go
to start engine dot com slash fan base to invest.

Speaker 1 (02:28:38):
And I am exacit about that because we stream right
now on Facebook, on Twitter, on LinkedIn sometimes on Instagram,
obviously on YouTube as well, and it's reaching folks across
the platform, So we definitely want to reach fan based community.
Got to appreciate the man. Thanks a lot. Thank you,
all right, I know we went over time, but we
have some some wild stores today. Let me think Recie,

(02:28:59):
let me thank greg let me thank Lauren. We're gonna
stay on top of this NAACP suspension stuff. I got
people texting me, tweeting me saying it happened to me too.
We certainly want to get some better information from the
NAACP because that statement was simply was not good enough
what they sent to us. And also Florida A and M.

(02:29:20):
I don't know what the hell y'all got going on,
but y'all got more questions than answers for the public.
And again, I'm from Texas and ain't nobody heard it
as Gregory Jerami dude, So I don't know what's going
on there. All right, y'all, that's it again, Receiet Greg Lauren,
thank you so very much. I appreciate it. Glad to

(02:29:41):
have y'all Lauren, how you got Lauren found out how
she keep coming on that Virginia Tech hat. What she
gonna wear Virginia State hat? And speaking of that, y'all
need to keep tweeting to tell Trump to to keep
his punk ass in Biden to greet the debate because
Virginia State University is the first HBCU ever to get
an invitation to host a presidential debate. And so Trump

(02:30:05):
and Biden, if they gonna do and if there's three
debates that don't do, if they gonna do one, damn
sure do that one at Virginia State. And so I
need y'all out there on social media pushing that out there,
saying you want to see that presidential debate happen on
the campus of Virginia State University. And so y'all staying
with my alf brother who's the president down there, that said, folks,

(02:30:27):
that certainly appreciated again, great recent long thanks a lot, folks.
We got to come and see yall tomorrow. My niece
graduate from Howard University. Tomorrow, she gets her master's degree.
It's at six pm. I actually got to host the show.
All my family's gonna be there, but I was the
one last year, so I'm good. But uh, but you
know I would be in studio, but faith regulations all
your master's degree in architectures from Howard University. She gets

(02:30:49):
that greed degree tomorrow at six pm. All right, folks,
don't forget supporters in what we do. I had somebody
to send me this, put it on Twitter. I mean,
you need to send your ankles out covering these stories
around the contrast the baby off money. I love people
who tell me how we need to be covering news,
and my automatic answer is do you give? So it's

(02:31:10):
real easy to say what we should be doing. But
if you ain't, no donor, well I'm sorry, so again
join I'll bring the fuck fan club. So you're checking
money or the peel box five seven one ninety six
Washington d C two zero zero three seven that zero
one ninety six cash opp Dolla sign r M unfiltered, PayPal,
are Martin unfiltered, vemmos are M unfiltered, ze rolling rowland

(02:31:31):
s Martin dot com, rolling that Rolling Martin Unfiltered dot com.
Download the Blackstart Network at Apple Phone, Android Phone, Apple TV,
Android TV, Roku. It was on Fire TV, Xbox one,
Samsung Smart TV. Be sure to get a copy of
my book White Fear of the Browning of Americas, making
white folks lose their minds avayable at bookstores Nation. Why
I get your audio version on audible and we are
so out of copies of the first Now here's what

(02:31:52):
I'm doing. I'm checking with my brother, y'all. I got
books all over the place. Some check with my brother
to make sure I ain't left none in his house.
I just move. So I'm going through all the boxes.
Make sure you ain't got a stash nowhere. But we
are completely sold out. A lot of y'all been emailing
and calling.

Speaker 11 (02:32:09):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (02:32:10):
I'm personally autographing each book, y'all. That ain't easy. So
I could easily shipped the book, So I gotta personally
autograph each book and package them. Okay, this ain't Amazon. Okay, Well,
you can order today and you get it tomorrow because
I gotta sign each one, so please be patient. I
shipped off one hundred and forty books the other day.
I just finished signing sixty before I came to the

(02:32:32):
show today. My goal is to go home and knock
out two hundred tonight. So I'm on it. But just
be patient, please. All right, so folks, we will see
all tomorrow right here on Roland Martin Unfilters on the
Black Start Network. Black Start Network, a real revolution right now.
Thank you for being the voice of Black Americas' moment.

Speaker 17 (02:32:54):
That we have.

Speaker 3 (02:32:55):
Now we have to keep this going.

Speaker 7 (02:32:57):
The video look phenomenal.

Speaker 32 (02:33:00):
Between Black Star Network and Black owned media and something
like CNN.

Speaker 1 (02:33:05):
You can't be black owned media and be scared.

Speaker 31 (02:33:08):
It's time to be smart.

Speaker 1 (02:33:09):
Ring your eyeballs, can't you dig

Speaker 31 (02:33:16):
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