Roland's 1-on-1 with Vice President Kamala Harris, Harris' Agenda for Black Men, Harris PA Rally

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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Today's Monday, October fourteenth, twenty twenty four coming up roland
Marked Unfiltered streaming live on the Blackstart Network. I sat
down with a Vice President Kamala Harris yesterday in Greenville,
North Carolina. We talked about a variety of things, including
her agenda for black men, as well as how Trump
is a threat to African Americans and this country.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Also, we talked about what she will do when it.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Comes to the continent of Africa, education, and a host
of other issues. He is a conversation you do not
want to miss. Also, Chris Toler from the Black Voter
Project will be here to discuss recent poll numbers of
black men supporting Vice President The Harris also happening as
we speak. Black men mobilized it for Kamala Harris or
on a zoom call.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Will show you that live. Also, it should be speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Tonight at a rally in Erie, Pennsylvania. Will also be
broadcasting that live as well. Black Maga support of Donald
Trump byran Donald's admits a second Trump tour will be
like his first when it comes to Black Americans.

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We know how that went.

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Also, Trump said he wants to use the military against
the Americans.

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Who don't vote for him.

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Speaker 1 (04:38):
Vice President Kamala Harris unveil today a plan that speaks
directly to black men. What she lays out it's called
with the Tools to Achieve Financial Freedom. But that doesn't
just cover finances, deals with health and other issues. Here's
some of the things in this particular proposal from the
Harris Walls campaign found a million dollars fully forgivable loans

(04:59):
to black entrepreneurship start a business, excuse me, champion education,
training and mentorship programs, support a regulatory framework for cryptocurrency
and other digital assets, launching National Health Equity Initiative, focus
on black men, legalized recreational marijuana, and create opportunities for
black Americans. Also in the plan, as I said, it

(05:23):
deals with health education, any number of things there. Now,
of course you've had folks who've been calling for, oh,
we need this specific plan, but the reality is what
you see right here also impacts all black people, not
just black men. She wants to create an invest in

(05:44):
programs that help expand pathways for job opportunities for black men,
including promoting apprenticeships, strengthening the public Service Loan forgiveness program,
and investing in more black male teachers. Now, I sat
down with her yesterday, Carolina. We're going to play that
in interview for you in about thirty minutes. But right now, though,

(06:05):
I do want to talk about this particular legitd And
now what's happening right now the group of black men
on a zoom call talking about this very thing, and
so they're talking to Trey Baker with the campaign, is
talking to Tony West, the brother in law a vice president,
Kamalen Harrison.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Let's go live to that call right now.

Speaker 9 (06:26):
President, we've been on the road almost non stop since
the convention, really and we've got three weeks to go.

Speaker 10 (06:34):
Sort of. Two things I'll mention first is that recreat things.
First is that.

Speaker 9 (06:42):
This campaign, as you will will know, this election is very,
very close. We've got three weeks left before we start
before election Dame, and it is. It is so close
in all the battleground stands. And I believe that this
is one of the few elections in American history that

(07:02):
will be decided by man, and I think that creates
a tremendous opportunity to speak for black men about the
issues that we care about most. The second thing I'll
say is that the Vice president is no stranger to

(07:23):
these issues. Throughout her vice presidency, certainly throughout her career,
but particularly throughout her vice presidency, she has been convening
black men at her residence to talk about these issues
that are important to us and to our community. This
is something she's done throughout her for twenty year public

(07:43):
service career, but particularly as Vice president. She's put a
premium on this, whether it's doing visits a small the
small business businesses around the country, small black businesses around
the country, or whether they're they're talking about her health
concerns that black men have and are confronting and dealing

(08:05):
with that as Vice president, this is something that she
has has done and has made a priority her entire
career and certainly as Vice president. The third thing I
wanted to talk about was just to give you the
sort of top lines of the policy agenda that the
Vice President rolled out today, the Opportunity Agenda for Black Men,

(08:27):
And this is really a comprehensive plan that's that's that's
aimed at at helping black men secure financial freedom, to
lower cost, to better provide themselves and their families with
with what they need in order to be successful. And specifically,
there are a couple of top lines that are worth noting.

(08:50):
For instance, in the plan, the Vice President's proposing up
to one million fully forgivable startup business loans for black entrepreneurs.
That's going to help not only create jobs in our communities,
it's going to help supercharge the growth and the creation

(09:10):
of small businesses, and particularly black small businesses in this country.
We've already seen in the last three and a half
years more black small businesses started in the last three
and a half years than we had seen in the
previous three decades.

Speaker 10 (09:26):
The Vice President wants to continue.

Speaker 11 (09:28):
Doing just that.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
Second, this agendacles for.

Speaker 9 (09:33):
A regulatory framework for cryptocurrency and other digital assets. And
as many folks know, many of you know, black folks
and Latinos actually own a lot of digital assets and
use that as a way of building wealth. You know,
for a lot of us. Sort of in the generation

(09:54):
that I am in and in our parents generation, the
way that families could could primary build wealth was through
home ownership. Another vehicle, particularly in communities of color, has
been through owning digital assets. And it's important that we
have a regulatory framework that protects those investments, protects those investors,

(10:17):
but also allows us to develop that technology. And that
is what the Vice President is proposing. The other thing
that is a part of this opportunity agenda is one
that goes right to healthcare, a national health equity initiative
focused on Black men who are disproportionately impacted by right

(10:38):
you know, mental health, prostate cancer, diabetes, other health challenges.
Something that is focused on addressing those health issues in
a meaningful and impactful way.

Speaker 12 (10:53):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
And then lastly, I guess the last one I'll mention
is the legalization of record marijuana at the federal level.
This is so important because a lot of black entrepreneurs,
as we know, have been able to find an opportunity
in the cannabis industry, but they've been impeded and hamstrung

(11:17):
by the fact that at the federal level. Notwithstanding the
fact that over thirty states have legalized cannabis, at the
federal level, we still see cannabis treated.

Speaker 10 (11:29):
As a scheduled drug.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
That makes it very difficult for black entrepreneurs to get
the funding and the capital that they need, the bank
loans that they need, because banks and other financial institutions
that are federally regulated are very reluctant to fund those
those ventures. And so by changing that at the federal level,

(11:52):
this will create opportunities, particularly will create opportunities across the board,
but particularly for black.

Speaker 10 (11:59):
Entrepreneurs to succeed in this new industry. So those are
the top lines. I'm very excited about it.

Speaker 9 (12:06):
I'm very excited to be out of here on the
road and to start talking about this with black men
all over the country.

Speaker 10 (12:12):
But with that, let me just kick it back over
to Trey. Thanks again for joining CAL but we appreciate
what you're doing out on the road.

Speaker 11 (12:23):
We see you in the car right now. I was
with you in Milwaukee. I know you're hitting stops in
Philadelphia and in Georgia elsewhere because it's so important to
take this message out.

Speaker 13 (12:32):
So thank you for the work that you're doing.

Speaker 11 (12:34):
We will see you on the road as we continue
over these next twenty some OI days until we get
to election day. Appreciate that we're going to turn now
to a group of a couple of men who we have.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
All right, folks, again, if you want to join that call,
we're actually live streaming that on one of our other channels,
so you can actually check that out live. That continues
as we go for with our show. Trey asked me
to join the calls. I said, Trey, I'm kind of
working right now, so I can't do that. Let me
bringing my panel, Doctor Julian Melveaux, economist President Emerita been
at college, also the author out of DCAMA Congo to

(13:13):
being a senior Professorial Lecture School, International Service American University
out of DC Ranina Shannon and former Jordan's they representative
joining us out of Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
M Congo.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Want to start with you, so you know, first of all,
let's be real clear. All of this stuff has been
going on, and I'm just gonna say this that this
reminds me of what happened during when Stacey Abrals was
running for governor. We saw all of these stories about
oh my god, she's awful with black men and black

(13:44):
men not going to vote for her. Things are not
going well. Then when election happened, none of that was
the case. You have white media driving this narrative and
it was like manna from heaven when Obama made his
comments on Friday, and they have been talking about it
since Friday and Saturday and Sunday and today. And you know,

(14:07):
the thing for me as I look at this is
we at the panels last week when we were in Philadelphia,
and I'm going to stand on this, and I don't
care what anybody has to say, and I dare them.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I dare them to come at me on this.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
When I kept hearing folks say, oh, you know, black
men want to be her, when we talked to totally
agree with that, I've been saying since twenty twelve, you
got to communicate, you got a message. But then when
people kept saying, oh, well, black men need to hear
a specific agenda, just like all these other black people

(14:45):
kept saying, oh.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Specific specifics. So a matterfic.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I had somebody on my Instagram page, well, well, well
she didn't say what she was going to do specifically
for black people. Well, in fact, that was the first
question that I had asked her, because that was this
clip going around on a congo when she said I'm
not gonna sit here and say what I'm gonna do
specifically for black people. But they cut out what she
said before that and after that, and I asked her

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that in the interview.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Folks will see later.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
But every time I challenge these brothers on the issue,
on this issue of.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
You know what, specifically, they can't see the answer.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
And then when they bring it up, I then go, well,
this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
And I lay all these things out.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
And then when they do that, I then talk about
how those very same things have a direct impact on
black women. And it's not like black women are saying, well,
you ain't saying nothing, doing nothing, And so that's what
bothers me. And so I appreciate what the Vice President
put out today, but to act as if Biden Harris

(16:04):
has hasn't done anything that has an impact on black
people is simply nonsensical.

Speaker 13 (16:14):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 14 (16:16):
Look, if you don't know what Vice President Harris's plans
are now, you either don't know how to read or
you simply just don't care to know, because it's all
been out there, it's been all on You've talked about
it even before she was running for a president. Look
the fact that the matter is, and then we can
flip it roland. Donald Trump's been running for what you know,
off there for eight nine years. Now, what's his plan?
What's his plan for black people? What the Cadillac plan

(16:38):
is that? What's going on with Trump? So what is
it that we know about him? Vice President Harris has
been direct, she's been authentic. She has talked about this
again before she was running for a president. And on
top of that, you have people like yourself, organizations like
the Black Economic Alliance who've also talked about.

Speaker 13 (16:54):
Her agenda for black people. And then the flip side
of what you started with.

Speaker 14 (16:59):
People are especially in these white media outlets, are setting
it up to blame her potentially losing the election on
black men specifically and black people as a whole, which
makes no sense because, as we always talked about, black
men are number two behind black women and no other group,
no other presidential candidate has numbers that represent for them
as high as as Black women, followed by black men.

(17:22):
You know, Trump may gat like, you know, sixty percent
you know, white women, fifty some percent white men or
something like that. No one's getting eighty plus percent from
any group. So that's something that should be commended. And
I do believe that both black men and women are
going to turn out in over ninety percent for Harris.
And look, you got this call that you just went
into right now, everything that you've been doing, these celebrities,

(17:42):
everybody from Steph Curry, other personalities like Diale Hugley. I mean,
even people talk about Charlamagne being the contrary, and he
was like, look, I voted for Biden because of Harris
back in twenty twenty.

Speaker 13 (17:52):
So this, this is a false narrative they needed.

Speaker 14 (17:55):
If they did as many stories on white women who
constantly let the Democratic Party down, if they did as
many stories as on them as they do on black
men and how they may let Harris down, then we
get some real issues right now, getting talked about because
I'm not concerned about us people who are black men
who are not going to vote for Hiris. They were
not going to vote for her anyway, and there's nothing

(18:16):
we can do to get them. I do believe there
are some people who need to know, but at this point,
twenty something days going into the election, the onus is
on those folks who say they don't know to get
out there and find out, like google Kamala Harris, black
men and everything you'll know. Type in Blackstar Network and
Roland Martin so you can go to a real source
and everything you'll need to know is right there. Watch

(18:36):
this interview tonight, share this interview. And outside of that,
if you didn't vote for her because you see, you
know Norah policies.

Speaker 13 (18:42):
You chose to remain ignorant, and that's on you.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
See.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
It is the thing right here, Nita.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
They laid out again this vice person, the Harris will
deliver for black men, and so it lays out a
variety of things in here. First and foremost. Look, I
was there in Detroit, I was there in Atlanta. She
went to Atlanta multiple times.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
She went to.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Charlotte actually talking about this economic opportunity tour. And so
then you go through here, so you heard the things
that we already talked about, launching a national Health Equity
Initiative focused on black men, that addressing this sickn sell disease, diabetes,
mental health, prostate cancer, and other health challenges this portion
to affect them.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
And so then you go through here and you see
these things.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
You look at the issues here where you talk about
this twenty thousand dollars forgivable loan for black entrepreneurs. And
so then when you go through here and you begin
to see a partnership with the Small Business Administration, expanding
access to bank accounts. Again, when you talk about and
maybe black men and other workers, the profit, when company

(19:50):
executives profit, expanding pathways with black men, the good paying
jobs whether or not they have a college.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Degree, and on and on and on. Now I say
all of that.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I say all of that because again those things are
good because again, what black folks are saying is I
want to hear from.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
You in terms of in terms of what you're going
to do.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
But when I think about hashtag, we did that, and
that's what I use here here we go to my
iPad because I asked the White House, Tell me exactly
what you actually accomplished in three and a half years
for African Americans. Now need everybody missing. I'm just going
to go through this here, so they sent me. Achieved

(20:38):
lowest black unemployment rate on record, created two point four
million jobs for black workers as of August twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Lifted four hundred.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Thousand black children out of poverty by increased SNAP benefits
through updating the thrifty Food Plan. Who wants to actually
cut the SNAP program? Republicans grew Black American business owning
ship at the fastest rate in over three decades, Triple
the number of SBA back loans to black owned businesses.

(21:08):
Awarded a record ten billion dollars in federal contracts to
black owned small businesses in twenty twenty three, Invested more
than sixteen billion in HBCUs.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Secured a nine hundred dollars increase of.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
The maximum pail grant award, largest increase in the past
ten years. And here's the piece that pail grant money
is actually in addition.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
To the HBCU money.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Then approved the cancelation of almost one hundred and seventy
billion in student loan debt, rooted out racial bias and
home appraisals, and closed the black white home valuation to
spare a gap by forty percent. And you'll hear me
talk to Vice President Harris about that. Reduced mortgage insurance
premiums for FAHA loans, saving seventy six thousand black households

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nine hundred dollars a year, cut costs for hot speed
internet to five point five million Black households with the
Affordable Connectivity Program, distributed two point two billion dollars in
financial assistance to forty three thousand farmers who experience discrimination,
and of course, Stephen Miller Trump's white nationalists sued to
stop the money that was allocated to black and Hispanic farmers.

(22:15):
Led historically equable economic recovery. Black wealth, even after adjusting
for inflation, is up sixty percent to pre pandemic levels,
the largest increase on record, ending health disparities. It says
right here, lord premium costs by an average of eight
hundred dollars for millions of Americans, increasing Black enrollment in
Affordable Care Act covers by ninety five percent more than

(22:38):
one point seven million people since twenty twenty. That specifically
impacts black men of their health Lord monthly premiums for
health insurance, capped the cost of insulin at thirty five
dollars in out of pocket drug costs at two thousand
dollars for those in Medicare. Announced the first ten prescription
drugs for Medicare price negotiation, saving some one point five

(22:59):
billion dollars. Made sick of sale disease the first focus
of the new Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services model.
Expanded Medicare Medicaid postpartum coverage from sixty days to twelve
months in forty six states in Washington, d C. Covering
seven hundred thousand more women in the year of childbirth.
Secure INDI should one point five billion four Headstart delivered

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a billion dollars to more than forty states to increase
the number of school based mental health professionals. Signed two
executive orders directing the federal government to address inequality protecting
black history of American history. Signed the junie teenth National
Independence Day Act designated Springfield nineteen o eight Race Ride
and Mmititil and maybe til Mobile National Monuments. Signed the
Immitial Anti Lynching Act to classify lynching for the first

(23:42):
time as a federal hate crime, worked to protect the
sacred right to vote through executive actions, continued calls for legislation.
Appointed the first black woman to the Supreme Court. They
have more black women Federal Circuit Court and more black
women to federal circuit courts all previous presidents combined, and
more black judges appointed in a single term, more than

(24:04):
any other president in American history. Signed an executive order
of police reform when Sidney Republicans blocked the George Floyd
Justice Act, signing to law the first bipartisan Safer Communities Act,
secure threehundred fifty million dollars in funding for specific funding
specifically for community violence innovention programs, part in thousands of

(24:25):
Americans under federal and DC law for civil possession of marijuana.
Helped bring crime to his lowest level in fifty years,
Lord than during any give them Prices administration, and was
not in here, I'll add there was one patters in
practice investigation RINITA under Trump, twelve under Biden Harris. Donald
Trump executed thirteen people in six months on the federal level,

(24:47):
zero under Biden Harris. Then, when you look at the
Department of Justice mortgage discrimination settlements with various people putting
former cops in prison for beating black people jailers, and
Wharton's exact same thing, investigations and action against various juvenile

(25:09):
programs in Texas, as well as investigating prison conditions in Mississippi,
South Carolina, Georgia, and on.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Now, my criticism of.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
The Biden Harris administration is that this stuff was not
constantly touted over the last three and a half years.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
But I can't act like it didn't happen.

Speaker 15 (25:36):
Well, it's that time of the year and this part
of the election cycle where as the election titens. We
see this every time where we see folks who installly
go to blame black men saying that they are not
going to vote for the candidate. And so once again
things are being blamed on black men when, as you
said before, it's just not true. The majority of black
men do still vote for Democrats, just like the majority

(25:58):
of black women do. You know here in Georgia in
twenty eighteen, there were over a million Black people of
every gender that did not vote for Stacy Abrams. So
this is not something where it's you know, something that
is sat factually based to just say that black men
are always the ones letting us down.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
It's just not true.

Speaker 15 (26:17):
I also think that's very interesting that right now the
polling shows that Latino men are fifteen percent behind Latino
women as it relates to how they feel about the
Harris campaign. But nobody is, you know, sort of preemptively
blaming them for you know, impending loss.

Speaker 16 (26:34):
So I think all that is very interesting.

Speaker 17 (26:36):
This is the thing.

Speaker 15 (26:37):
Voters are very simple. They have to number one, understand
what you are saying you will do. So things need
to be very in very simple layman's terms when you're
talking about what policies you're going to move forward. And
then the second thing is whatever you're saying you're going
to do has to align with the voter's priorities. So
it doesn't matter how long the list is that you
give the things you've done. If it's not what the

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voters what was their top prior it will count as
essentially nothing. I think that the plan that she rolled
out today, I think I see two good points. I
see two points that need more specifics, but then I
see two good points that I think hit that sweet
spot of easy to understand. And it does go to
what I have heard black men say are part of
their priorities. It's that one million dollars for small business loans.

(27:21):
That's important because we've heard over and over again black
men say that they are interested in not so much.
You know, obviously there's a certain population that wants to
have better jobs, and we need that with the livapool wage.
But then there are some black men who have said
this is their life dream, just to be able to
start a small business, feed their family, take care of
their family, and be able to work for themselves. The

(27:42):
second thing that I think is a big deal is
the fourth policy that talks about legalizing marijuana. This is
so important not because we are saying that black men
care about marijuana so much specifically, but what we know
is the war on drugs that started in the eighties
ruined a lot of lives, and black men were just
up portuately targ did for that cracked down sort of

(28:02):
by the criminal legal system. And so criminal legal reform
is extremely important. And so whether you're talking about black
men saying, hey, I remember what happened to me and
this was not fair and it ruined my life, or
whether you're talking about black men who maybe never had
any interest in marijuana, they still have relatives in their
family who are other black men, and black women also

(28:23):
have black men in their families too, and they want
to know that their lives are not going to be
ruined because of policy that just does not make any sense.
So I think that those two policies that she's got
are definitely the sweet spot, and I think she needs
to go further in that direction. I'd love to see
some clarification on the health initiative, because what are we
talking about. Are you saying that even if you don't
have insurance, you'll get free colonoscopies or are we're just

(28:44):
saying we're going to talk to black men about why
it's important to get your colonoscopy.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, this is the question.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
But here's the thing, Julian again, go to my iPad.
If black men say, hey, you want to see loans
of black owned businesses. This is a press release from
September twenty first, twenty twenty three. SBA data shows major
increases in loans to black owned businesses under Biden Harris.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
That's actually been happening. It's been happening.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
So again, if anybody out there who's like, oh, she's
saying black owned businesses are going to get loans. They
have been getting loans. They've tripled, they've tripled.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Go right ahead, Oh, you're absolutely right, Roland.

Speaker 18 (29:23):
I think that the biggest flaw of the Biden has
Harris administration has been their failure to trumpet their victories.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
And so now we're getting this, and it's not like
we're just getting it. We know about what they've done.

Speaker 18 (29:37):
Some of us know, but as Oba Congo says, if
you don't know, it's because you don't want to know.
I mean, I'm sick of people saying, you will give
me more specifics. She's given you as many as she can.
She can't tell you exactly what's going to happen, because
she says to know what the Senator is going to
look like, what the House is going to look like.
But she's so showing her intent. And so I think
there are a lot of people who are chilly shally,

(29:58):
and among those Chili shallly are the mainstream media I
keep seeing in the background in my office most of
the day. I do switch to Black Star net Work
every down then, But in any case, I think today
that every show has had something about black men, something negative,
black men not voting for Harris, and it's the way,

(30:18):
first of all, draw driving a wedge through the black community,
which you know, white folks love driving a wedge in
the black community, so that black women and black men
get to be at each other's throat about this. That's
number one. But number two, as Ridina says, it demonizes
black men. So if the unfortunate occurs is that Kabla

(30:40):
Harris loses, which we pray does not happen, I could
hear the pundits already she lost because of black men.
Let's be clear about what proportion of the population black
men are. Let's be clear about what black men could
do could not do, and let's not allow this to
draw a wedge in our community because that's what they
like more than anything else. Now, the third thing I

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will say is that there aren't this, There are these
what is a black man for Trump? I was online
looking at that today earlier today, and you know, you
want to know who are these black men and why
I'm not throwing shade anybody, But one of the people
is Kwame Kilpatrick. Loved a brother when he was mayor
of the Detroit Trump pardoned him. So is this a
quid pro quo or what uh? Politics were never aligned

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with the Trump but you know, now he's in this
group of I think they listed five or six black men.
I know any of the other ones, not that I
have to, I probably wouldn't want to, but just look
at who these black men are and where they're coming from.
And then finally, I don't know what's gonna happen in
the interview with Charlote Baine, the God. I've never listened
to his show. I guess I have to catch up

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on bicultural awareness. But they've already deemed aised him, say
he's going to be hustled her.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
How do they know?

Speaker 18 (31:54):
So again, it's really trying to throw black men under
the bus, and it's subject White folks say they don't
want to play racial politics, but they play racial politics
all the time. And this is certainly one time when
they're lifting up black men in a negative way that
they're playing racial politics.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Playing racial politics white foles do that. Yeah, Actually had
turned to mic off. That was comes when Maxine Waters
call I got to call it back. They played racial
politics all the time, and the reality is they need
to be challenged as well on what the hell their
numbers look like Chris Toler, he's the director of the
Black Voter Project, co founder of Black Insights Research, joins
me now from Sacramento.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
And again, all of these people, all of these folks, Chris.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
They going on and on and on, and now everybody,
ny Mama want to analyze the black vote, Okay, And
then what all these networks are doing seeing these silly
ass reporters out there to interview brothers playing basketball. But
here's what they never asked. They never first say are
you registered? Then they never asked if you are registered,

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which is the last.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Time you voted?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
So then all of a sudden, oh my goodness, NBC,
we went out and talk to a group of black
men and all of them are voting for Trump. When
Don Lennon was walking around talking to people, and all
these networks have done that, but they don't ask that
unmportant question first, are you registered to do you vote?
And everybody in a mama now got an opinion on

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black men, and none of them are actually looking at data.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
And the last point here, Chris Foyd, go to you.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
They just take whatever pole white mainstream media puts out
and just take it as fact.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I saw one, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
According to this poll, Donald Trump is getting twenty six
percent of the black vote. Another poll, two out of
five Black men are going to vote for Donald Trump.
And I'm like, not nail one black pole has showed
any of that.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Nothing. Roland, thanks again for having me on.

Speaker 19 (34:10):
I think that you know, just to reiterate this point,
the narrative about black men voting for Trump has been.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Blown out of proportion ever since Biden was the nominee.

Speaker 19 (34:20):
Even back then, black the number of black men supporting
Trump was not any higher than in twenty twenty. And
the data that I have suggests that it's actually dropped
since Harris took over the ticket. And so we're seeing
less black men saying that they're going to vote for
Trump now than we did when Biden was the nominee,
and so that number has been steadily decreasing. We really
expected to continue to decrease, especially as we move towards

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the election, and we actually are looking, as you said,
people that are actually gonna vote rather than those that
are just being pulled.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
And a lot of times you see.

Speaker 19 (34:50):
These likely voter polls, but then you look at the
black subsample where they are just trying to get people
in right, they don't have any history or real record
of polling black folk, and so they end up with
a good percent of even their likely voter sample is
made up of people who haven't voted, didn't even vote
in twenty twenty. And so right now we've even been
modeling at Black insights the way that black men vote

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in what actually predicts whether or not Black men are
going to support Trump versus someone else. And other than
the idea of Trumps a threat being a major factor.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Of determining whether or not black men.

Speaker 19 (35:22):
Are going to support Trump, it's also whether or not
you voted in the past, specifically in twenty twenty. And
one of the most forceful predictors as to whether or
not someone a black man says that they're going to
support Trump is if they did not vote in twenty twenty.
If they voted in twenty twenty, they are far less
likely to say that they're going to support Trump this
time around.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Okay, And so when we look at this, I don't
understand black men had the lowest percentage of anyone voting
for Donald Trump. Why did I talking to these white
men and Latino men, an Asian American men.

Speaker 19 (35:59):
Yeah, at this point, it really does seem like the
same old narratives being set up to try and escape
goat black men when it's all said and done, if
for some reason Harris doesn't win and loses this election.
As you mentioned, black men not only have a higher
rate of voting for the Democrats the lowest rate of
voting for Trump of eighty men of race or ethnic group,
but even vote at higher rates them both white women

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and Latin or Hispanic women. And so the only group
that they don't match when it comes to their support
for the Democratic Party is black women. And there is
a conversation to be had there, one that probably should
be internal within the Black community as to why black
men and black women while there is still a gender
gap there. But to say that black men are supporting
Trump or are not supporting the Democrats at any significant

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rate is ridiculous when looking at the complete picture right
in the full story of the electorate.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
And not only that.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
The last election, seventy percent of the electorate was white.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
So now I'm just trying to out how is the
whole election on black people?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Last I check, I think is more white people in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Last I checked or is that does you mean.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
No, You're absolutely right to that point.

Speaker 19 (37:22):
I think that what we're finding when we look at
the poll specifically is that there are very few undecided
voters left. We are in a very extremely polarized electorate,
polarized political times, and so really right, there's very little
room amongst any racial ethnic group to try and swape people.
And so for me, the reason why black voters are
so important though, is because of turnout numbers, and if

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black folks can get to vote, are turning out at
a greater percentage than they are of the population, if
they are overrepresented in the electorate, then that tremendously helps
to the Democratic Party, right, because you know, every hundred
people that turn out, every hundred black people that vote,
eighty to ninety them.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Are going to vote Democrat.

Speaker 19 (38:01):
And so it really makes sense for the Democrats to
target black people rather than continue to question whether or
not black people and specifically black men are faithful in
their support.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And again when we start looking at these things again,
so all of this focus, all of this focus.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Is on black men.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
This literally is what Congressman Byron Donald's said about Trump's
black agenda.

Speaker 20 (38:36):
Turned to the topic of what Kamala Harris is doing
this coming week, particularly Monday and Tuesday. She's got several
events courting black voters. I know that you are talking
about the black vote coming out, particularly black men for
Donald Trump. You're trying to help him along with that.

(38:56):
To that point, can you talk specifically about what Donald
Trump would do policy wise in a second term to
help Black Americans?

Speaker 21 (39:07):
Sure, and thank you for that question. What Donald Trump
is going to do is going to be actually quite
similar to what he did in his first term. When
you lower tax rates, when you cut these reckless and
crazy policies that are now in the Kamala Harris administration,
and you cut those regulations down, what it does is
it frees up the ability for businesses to thrive, for
people to be able to earn more money, for them

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to be able to keep more money in their pockets.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
What Chris, go ahead, There's.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
No specificity there whatsoever.

Speaker 19 (39:41):
Right when asked what specific plans Trump has in mind,
there's nothing because there's no plans.

Speaker 17 (39:47):
Right.

Speaker 19 (39:47):
We already see Trump offering to put architects of Project
twenty twenty five in his cabinet if you were to
take office, and we already know Project twenty twenty five
is working to dismantle the black community rather than build
it up up right, the policies that are important to
the black community, things like building black business. You know,
the Trump economy crushed black business. And the only talking

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point they have is that black employment was historically low,
which is completely false. Right, we know that black employment
was far low. Black unemployment was far lower under the
Biden administration.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
Other issues that matter to.

Speaker 19 (40:19):
The black community, police sing, right, we already know Project
twenty twenty five. The MAGA wants to give police federal immunity, right,
expand immunity for police forces. Other issues important to the
black community. You know, you want to go as far
as talk about reparations. We've recently heard Trump himself in
a number of Republicans surrogates say that reparations are not
not something that they support. Right, They don't support taxpayer

(40:42):
or federal funded reparations for descendants of slavery. So it's
very clear that there is no agenda there from Trump
whatsoever for the black community.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
Anything you hear otherwise is really absolute pandering and lies.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
So have your brother also just out there, and you
don't want Trump to be talking about you want to
see police act in the full now communities. And then
they say, well, Trump, he didn't write Product twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Okay, this came out of his own mouth.

Speaker 13 (41:12):
The liberal left won't let him do it.

Speaker 22 (41:14):
The liberal left wants to destroy him, and they want
to destroy our country. You know, if you had one day,
like one real rough, nasty day with the drugstores as
an example, but they have to be taught. Now, if
you had one really violent day.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Like a guy like Mike Kelly, put him in charge.

Speaker 22 (41:32):
Congressman Kelly put him in charge for one day, Mike,
would you say, he's right here a whole it's a
chain of events. It's so bad one rough hour, and
I mean real rough.

Speaker 17 (41:48):
The word will get out and it will end immediately,
end immediately.

Speaker 10 (41:55):
You know, it'll end immediately.

Speaker 22 (42:00):
Crooked Joe Biden do it because the liberal what.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
He's saying, Chris, let's unleash the cops on all these neighborhoods,
will be good.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
Well, where's he talking about as well?

Speaker 19 (42:17):
Right, we've heard him say many other times the places
that he feels need to be targeted, the places where
crime is out of control.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
He's talking about some of the blackest cities in the country.
He talks about Detroit, he.

Speaker 19 (42:27):
Talks about DC, Atlanta, Baltimore as these places where they
need extra enforcement, where people need to be put back
in their place. So it's no coincidence that you know
these things. He's not saying these things in the vacuum.
You have to be able to connect all the dots.
Here is when he's talking about unleashing police, unleashing force
on people, and then the next day he's talking about
how some of these cities, the blackest cities in America,

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out of control. It's all related, right, This is all
part of his philosophy and the politics that he sees
for the world and for America going forward.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
And I'm sure somebody is saying, well, I didn't really
hear him say that he's going to give cops immunity.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Here it is. Come on, guys, I've given.

Speaker 22 (43:12):
Federal ammunity to police office.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Let me roll it back that we're going to give.

Speaker 22 (43:16):
Immunity to police so they can do their job. I've
given federal ammunity to police office and so they could
do their job.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Right there, We're going to give immunity to police.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
They can give fellow community police. They can do their jobs.
Let me remind everybody. When he was there, Jeff says,
she's we're gonna pull back on consent decrees because it's
herding morale of cops. He's saying, I'm gonna let these
folks do whatever the hell they want to do in
neighborhoods nationwide.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
Well furthermore Roland.

Speaker 19 (43:49):
He's also saying that he wants to dismantle educational systems, first,
starting with black history, starting with education about slavery, moving
as far as dismantling the Department of Education altogether, so
that this misinformation campaign of the right wing, the far
right messages about black people can be the dominant message

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that people here, and that we won't even have an
opportunity to learn about what police have been doing or
are doing to people in our communities.

Speaker 12 (44:17):
Right.

Speaker 19 (44:17):
We won't be able to talk about George Floyd or
Trevon Martin in the classroom. We won't be able to
talk about the sixteen nineteen project. We won't have the
opportunity to have these conversations according to the Project twenty
five and the far right agenda.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Last question, I know you've got an interview to do
put on the network and that is this here. Do
you believe over the next twenty three days we're going
to see Vice President Kamala Harris build her lead among
African Americans And do you think, based upon what you're seeing,
that it's going to get to eighty eight ninety percent.

Speaker 19 (44:52):
Yeah, I think the lead was going to build regardless.
I think as the election got closer, black support was
and we've seen this in the polls coalescing around Harris
and moving away from Trump. I think a lot of
the early polls right, bet they were bad polls to
start with, but they were also capturing a lot of
unlikely voters in those samples, people who weren't sure yet

(45:13):
because it was really early in the game.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
So I think that was going to happen regardless. I
think what her messaging.

Speaker 19 (45:18):
If she continues to focus in on the black community
and message directly to the black community as she's been doing,
we could see turnout skyrocket as well. And so I
think we will see the eighty eight ninety support from
the black community for Harris, but I'm hoping we also
see the sixty five sixty six percent turnout levels that
we saw under Obama right, and that's really what we
need to have a dominant victory so that we don't

(45:39):
have to worry about any of these legal challenges challenging
vote certifications or vote counts anywhere in the state in
the country. Already understanding that the states with high black
voter populations are going to be the target there. And
so really I'm really happy about everything that's been going on,
the developments in the last seventy two hours, her coming
down to your show and really doing a really clear

(46:00):
interview with you about issues to the black community. And
I hope she keeps it up.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
All right, Chris Teller, We really appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
All Right, folks, gonna go to a quick break. We
come back on Roland Martin Unfiltered. We'll have for you
My Enemy Vice President and Kamala Harris will play that
for we'll play that. We'll also talk with our panel
about that as well. Also, don't forget Donald Trump. He
wants to unleash the military against his critics.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
He actually said it. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered on
the Black Star Network.

Speaker 16 (46:35):
He told us who he was.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
Should abortion be punished?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
There has to be some form of punishment.

Speaker 16 (46:41):
Then he showed us.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
For fifty four.

Speaker 22 (46:43):
Years they were trying to get gro V Wade terminated,
and I did it, and I'm proud to have done it.

Speaker 23 (46:49):
Now Donald Trump wants to go further with plans to
restrict birth control, fan abortion nationwide, even monitor women's pregnancies.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
We know who Donald Trump is.

Speaker 16 (47:00):
Take control.

Speaker 23 (47:01):
We'll pay the price.

Speaker 16 (47:02):
I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message.

Speaker 24 (47:05):
In twenty sixteen, Donald Trump said he would choose only
the best people to work in his White House. Now
those people have a warning for America. Trump is not
fit to be president again. Here's his vice president.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Anyone who puts himself over the constitution should never be
president of the United States.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
It should come as no surprise that I will not
be endorsing Donald Trump this year.

Speaker 24 (47:25):
His Defense secretary.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Do you think Trump can be trusted with the nation's
secrets ever?

Speaker 6 (47:29):
Again?

Speaker 9 (47:30):
No, I mean it's just irresponsible action that places our
service members at risk, places our nation security at risk.

Speaker 24 (47:36):
His national security advisor, Donald Trump will cause a lot
of damage.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
The only thing he cares about is Donald Trump.

Speaker 24 (47:43):
And the nation's highest ranking military officer.

Speaker 14 (47:46):
We don't take an oath to a king or queen,
or to tyrant or dictator.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
We don't take an oath.

Speaker 13 (47:52):
To a wanna be dictator.

Speaker 24 (47:54):
Take it from the people who knew him best. Donald
Trump is a danger to our troops and our democracy.
We can't let him lead our country again.

Speaker 16 (48:02):
I'm Kamala Harris, and I approved this message.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
The cost of rent, groceries, and utilities is too high.

Speaker 16 (48:09):
So here's what we're going to do about it.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
We will lower housing costs by building more homes and
crack down on landlords we're charging too much. We will
lower your food and grocery bills by going after price
gougers or keeping the cost of everyday goods too high.
I'm Kamala Harris, and I approve this message. Because you
work hard for your paycheck, you should get to keep
more of it. As president, I'll make that my top priority.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Hey, what's up, y'all. I'm Devond Frank.

Speaker 25 (48:37):
I'm doctor Robin Bee, pharmacist and fitness coach, and you're
watching Roland Martin unfiltering.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Now Vice President ready to bring the fuck I'm trying.
Let's get right to it. Right before I walked out there,
someone posted a clip and using this the clip. I'm
not gonna sit here and say we do anything specifically
for African Americans. But folks don't talk about what you
said right before, when you said that public policy that
benefits black folks and it benefits everybody else. Even we

(49:28):
look at historically Civil Rights Act, Voter Rights Act, it
actually didn't just impacted African Americans, impacted everyone else. But
talk about that because so many people have only clipped
that one part without understanding the public policy implications.

Speaker 16 (49:42):
I'm sorry to hear that, right, so you know that
that I mean going back even before.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
But doctor King was very clear, right, if you have
certain policies that recognize one that not everybody starts out
on the same base.

Speaker 16 (49:56):
If you have public policy, and I'm talking about economic.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Pub specifically at this point, but if you have public
policy that recognizes historical barriers and what we need to
do then to overcome first speak truth about them, and
then overcome them that in the process of doing that,
not only are you directly dealing with the injustices and
the legal and procedural barriers that have been focused on

(50:24):
black oes, but by eliminating those barriers, everyone actually benefits right,
and I know that to be true. So my policies
include what I know is going to have a profound
impact on Black folks around economic policy.

Speaker 16 (50:41):
But everyone will benefit from them.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
I intend to create as president what I have named
an opportunity economy that taps into the ambitions and the
aspirations and the dreams of the American people and then
addresses those in a way that recognizes unlike my opponent
who has handed four hundred million dollars on a silver
platter and then file bankruptcy six times, not everyone has
access to those.

Speaker 16 (51:05):
Kinds of resources.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
But when you give people access to those resources, they
thrive and we all benefit opportunity economy. That's why I
say I'm going to make sure that we give first
time home buyers a twenty five thousand dollars down payment assistance,
because again we know that when you look at the

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history of how black folks have been denied the opportunity
for home ownership, be it redlining or what we knows,
it has still been happening around a bias and home
appraisals that it is a barrier to achieving intergenerational success.
But when we address it by doing things like helping
folks get their foot in the door with a down

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payment assistance, they will have the ability to be on
that track of intergenerational wealth building. My plan for extending
and expanding the child tax credit six thousand dollars for
the first year of a child's life because our parents,
just like any parent, have a natural desire to parent
their children.

Speaker 16 (52:07):
Well, but not always the resources to do that.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
So six thousand dollars in the first year of your
child's life helps you buy that car seat or crib
or the clothes that are necessary to build the foundation
for that.

Speaker 16 (52:20):
Important phase of their development. To do it gets them
on the right track.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I do want to do the housing piece because what
I think is not being talked about the building of
new housing stock. Yes, and so the because of the
homeful closure crisis, we literally built under nine or ten
million homes in two thousand and twenty twenty. We're underbuilt
now as well, the figuest homes being built since the
nineteen forties.

Speaker 16 (52:43):
Yes, so a change.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Part of this problem with housing is that we don't
have the stock. So talk about that piece there, because
we've got demand, but you don't actually have right now
the available homes.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
So I'm glad you actually presented the point the way
you did, because let's also go back to what you
know in my history on this in terms of being
Attorney General when I took on the big banks and
because they were doing predatory lending, and a lot of
the folks who were targeted with that predatory lending were
black folks who are being told, Oh, you don't need
to worry about.

Speaker 16 (53:14):
It, you're going to get We're going to give you.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
This money and so you can buy a home without
actually doing the announceis to figure out if they'd be
able to afford to pay it back, right, and folks
trusted the banks that if you're going to loan me
the money, then you must have determined I have the
ability to actually right be able to see it through.

Speaker 16 (53:31):
And the foreclosure rates for black homeowners during that.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Crisis wealth wiped out.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
That's exactly right, Roland I and I took on and
sued the big banks and ended up delivering twenty billion
dollars for the homeowners of California. The former President Obama
recently mentioned the fact that I actually took on the
Department of Justice and the administration, saying I'm not going
to do a deal that brings crumbs to the table.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
But now just when you're entering general with because even
right now the DOJ is the right division of the
red lining lawsuits, mortgage discrimination, we.

Speaker 16 (54:06):
Have been taking all of it.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Mortgage discrimination, also discrimination and home appraisals. We've taken on
the fact that you know those stories about a black
family is trying to get these their home appraisal. They
want to get a second mortgin, they want to sell
the house, whatever, and they bring in the appraiser. The
appraiser looks around, looks at the family pictures and appraises
it for less than it's worth.

Speaker 16 (54:25):
The family knows that they're not stupid photos.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
So then they remove photos and everything else, right, they.

Speaker 16 (54:32):
Remove all the blackness, all of.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
That, and then they ask a white family that's a
friend of theirs come in, they put up their pictures,
and the house gets appraised for more racial bias.

Speaker 16 (54:43):
We're taking that on for the first time.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
And I want to give due credit to form a
secretary of hud Marsha Fudge for being a leader on that.
These are the things we've taken on and as president,
to your point about supply, I'm going to create tax
and centives for home.

Speaker 16 (54:58):
Builders and developers to build three million new housing units
by the end of my.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
First term, because a big part of jacking up the
prices has been there's the supply is not meeting demand,
so the prices are higher. And when you couple that
with twenty five thousand dollars down payment assistance, we have
the ability to give people the opportunity to achieve what
generations before called the.

Speaker 16 (55:21):
American dream, but which has been out of reach for
too many people.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
My work around thinking about how it's going to directly
impact black folks is knowing that when you look at
racial bias in home appraisals, when you look at the
disproportionate rates of Black home ownership to other people having
home ownership, it's too low. And it's not because we
don't aspire to have a home or buy a home.
My work is about looking at small businesses, knowing they're

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at the backbone of our economy in the neighborhood, in communities,
and giving folks an extension of a tax deduction so
it's not just five thousand dollars for start up small business,
but fifty thousand dollars because nobody can start up a
small business on five thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
I'm glad you mentioned small business.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I was talking to a black restaurant only in Houston,
and we're talking about the corporate tax rate. And one
of the things that he said was, he said, listen,
I'm looking at her proposal. I'm looking at what was
the place beforehand, he said, because when it got cut,
it puts five hundred thousand dollars in my pocket. When
I was in Georgia Cinda Warnights campaign twenty twenty two,

(56:29):
a black woman said, hey, she said, I get reproductive, right.
She said, I'm not having any kids, but I do
care about taxes. And so that's one of the things
that I'm hear from numbered African American business owners who
are saying, Okay, what will vice president if she's president
deal with corporate tax rate?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
And so you talked about increasing it.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Does it Will that mean a certain capsule, let's save
you fifty million, one hundred million revenue or less?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Will that go up?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Will that corporate tax rate apply to all businesses?

Speaker 5 (56:59):
So, first of all, the corporate tax rate years ago
is in the thirties, so I'm not doing that. But
in terms of tax cuts for middle class families. My
agenda is all about tax cuts for middle class families
and no tax rate height for anybody making less than
four hundred thousand dollars a year. But my approach is
also about giving one hundred million Americans a tax cut

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in terms of middle class tax cuts. Donald Trump, on
the other hand, first of all, like he did before,
he will do again and has pretty much pledged that
he will give a tax cut for billionaires in the
biggest corporations. Donald Trump has indicated that basically what I
call a Trump sales tax will be in place, which
is a twenty percent tax on everyday goods and services,

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which economists have estimated will cost the average American family
four thousand dollars more a year. Goldman sat small businesses,
of course, including small businesses, not to mention what he
is doing. If you look at Project twenty twenty five,
what they're proposing in terms of cutting off for example,
we see her cu Holleen, what we have seen happen
in terms of Milton cutting off the SBA ability to

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give small businesses that have experienced an extreme weather event,
a disaster, giving them additional resources.

Speaker 16 (58:14):
This man don't want to help small businesses.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
He cares about the kinds of people who run the
businesses he runs, big developers, billionaires.

Speaker 16 (58:22):
He not looking out for middle class folks.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
You look at what he is proposing in terms of
cutting If you look at the cost that middle class
families bear health care cost we have capped the cost
of insulin thirty five dollars a month for seniors. Black
folks are sixty percent more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes.
Under Project twenty twenty five. They would undo that thirty
five dollars cap.

Speaker 16 (58:47):
You look at what he is planning to do.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
That is about undoing getting rid of the Department of
Education and head start programs.

Speaker 16 (58:55):
Who do you think that's going to affect?

Speaker 5 (58:57):
So there is first of all, a danger in terms
of understanding there are two choices in this election and
understanding what Donald Trump intends for middle class families. Two,
look at it in the context of how he actually
thinks and talks about black folks in America. And you
and I have talked about this before. He is not

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looking out for folks. When he is when he was
a land lord and would not rent to black families,
sued for it, when he took out a full page
ad in the New York Times against those five teenagers
black and Latinos more innocent, saying they should be executed

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the Central Park five. When you look at the first
black president of the United States and he had birth
their lives, and now you look at black immigrants, legal
immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, and he gets on a debate
stage and says they're eating their pets.

Speaker 16 (59:58):
Come on, this man is danger.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Not to mention Roland. Let's fast forward to right now.
His staff won't let him do a sixty minutes interview.
Every president for the last half century has done on
anyone who's running for president. Everyone has done it except
Donald Trump. He will not debate me again. I put

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out my medical records. He won't put out his medical records.
And you have to ask why is his staff doing that,
And it may be because they think he's just not
ready and unfit and unstable and should not have that
level of transparency for the American people.

Speaker 16 (01:00:39):
There's a real choice in this selection.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
He mentioned Department of Education.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
I was on a call a couple weeks ago Jeffrey Canada,
Steve Perry, Jalen Rose and others who were supported the
school choice, parental choice. And what they've complained about is
that you haven't heard a lot about education in the
last several months, and they were talking about these educational
outcomes of African Americans post COVID, and they said that
the numbers are depression. It's bad in terms of in

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terms of your focus with education one, do you support
public charters? Do you support again, how we deal with
those numbers, because at the end of the day, if
our kids are staying behind, that's just going to make
it even more difficult for this sure when it comes
to getting jobs and so that education plan for America

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if your.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
President, Yeah, so I have support of public charters. But
here's the thing that we have to just focus on
in this election. First of all, Donald Trump would get
rid of the Department of Education, which means that as
a vehicle for funding a lot of what we need
to do around public education for our children.

Speaker 16 (01:01:50):
It would be getting rid of Headstart.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
And we know how many of our children have benefited
from that in the earliest stages of their development, which
are the most critical to them being able to be
successful as they go through the educational process. So there
is a huge contrast between me and him, and frankly,
I don't think he wants to talk about education, which
is why it has not become an issue on the
debate stage, because he doesn't have a plan, which takes

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me back to a fundamental point.

Speaker 16 (01:02:16):
He doesn't have a plan for much of anything.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
That is about the people who are going to be
watching this interview. I invite everyone always and again watch
his rallies. He will talk full time about himself. He
will talk about his personal grievances, and he will not
talk about you and any plan that he has for you,
or your children or your future.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Made you feel when he trashes black cities. So in
twenty twenty, he talked about voting in Fulton County, Atlanta, Philidel, Detroit.
There was a partial recount of Wisconsin only in Milwaukee.
The comments that he just made about Detroit basically being
a living hell.

Speaker 16 (01:02:56):
And Oakland, d C. Chicago, the come on, come on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Pretty good, Damn y'all dropped out. I actually liked it.
Jamel hill I talked about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
But again he's singling out cities where there are significant
African Americans, and that's who he's talking about.

Speaker 10 (01:03:14):
Black people.

Speaker 16 (01:03:15):
Yes, yes, you know there's this whole.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
I talked with somebody once and said, you know, if
you just look at where the stars are in the sky,
don't look them as just random things. If you just
look at them as points, look at the constellation. What
does it show you?

Speaker 16 (01:03:35):
So you just outlined it Roland, what does it show
you that the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
Cities that he picks on in terms of black population
or black mayor are both.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Come on, we're in North Carolina and this has been
a battle, battleground over voting rights. Federal judges eight years
ago said there was laser like precision the African American. Yes,
that is still a major issue. You got the Supreme
Court with their decisions brought in section two section for

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the Voting Rights Act, And so what if convers doesn't move,
what can you do to assure that up? Because that
continues to be a major issue. And with so many
African Americans now moving from northern locations of Midwest back
to the south, we're seeing these problems in Mississippi, Georgia, Aladama, Tennessee,
Texas and others.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Well, to your point, you mentioned North Carolina, which is
what's been well documented. You look at even though I
must say that North Carolina has a governor and Roy Cooper,
who has tried to do everything he can to ensure
that voting rights are intact, but he does not have
a veto proof majority in the state House.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Well them has lost the Supreme Court as well, so well,
and so.

Speaker 16 (01:04:51):
You know, I think that we should all whoever's.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
In North Carolina watching this, Josh Stein running for governor,
it's going to be very important pay attention to those
states House races because those if there is a if
they can change the balance in the state House, then
they will be able to push through more protections for
voting rights.

Speaker 16 (01:05:10):
But to your point, in Georgia, they.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Passed the law preventing people from giving food and waters
to folks who are standing in line to vote, which
is the height of hypocrisy, because you know what happened
to love thy neighbor, right, there is a full on
intent by some to attack hard fought, hard one freedoms
and rights, including the right to vote.

Speaker 16 (01:05:29):
And part of it, if you track it, is if
you look at.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
The successes that we had, in particular in twenty twenty
and in the height of a pandemic, when people just
said they were going to vote, they knew, and they
understood how important it was. Thereafter, you saw in state
after state attempts by state legislatures to make it more
difficult for people to vote. And here's what I would

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say to your listeners, don't let anybody take you out
the game.

Speaker 16 (01:05:58):
There is an intent to make it more difficult.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
There is an intent to suggest to a lot of
folks that their vote won't matter. What the intention that
people will not vote, which is an attempt to silence folks.
And what we know is the greatest progress we have
achieved is when we jump over those obstacles that have

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been purposely laid to do what we know is about progress.
And this election is going to be no different. They've
already started with the misinformation and the lines. We know
that there is foreign interference, and I have to say
to everybody listening to this, don't let them take your voice.

(01:06:44):
Because I was part of the Senate Intelligence Committee when
we investigated Russia's interference in the twenty sixteen election.

Speaker 16 (01:06:52):
Black folks were targeted with misinformation.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Because there was an assumption that you're already to targeting
a group of people who already have learned based on
a lived experience that things aren't necessarily designed to work
for them, and manipulate that in a way that suggests
to people that their vote won't matter because if you
do that, they won't vote.

Speaker 16 (01:07:17):
That was the intention you should.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
They' let them take you out of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
What do you say to a young black woman, a
young black man out there who is seriously considering the couch,
who says my vote doesn't matter, who says that I
have not seen policies that have changed my life, Because
that's there, that thought process is there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Vote sixty five and older vote the highest.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
But as you keep going down, is get that number
just goes even law and law and low. So what
do you say that that young brother sister's watching, why
they should vote, but why they should trust you be
the forty seventh president.

Speaker 16 (01:07:58):
So, first of all, you vote does matter.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
It is because folks voted that we have capped the
cost of incident thirty five dollars a month, that we
are on the path to doing what I intend to do,
which is saying that your medical debt cannot be on
your credit score.

Speaker 16 (01:08:13):
Putting sixteen billion dollars in.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
HBCUs, having the lowest black unemployment in recent history, the
work that we have done that has been about investing
in black businesses. The work that we have done that
has been about understanding the importance of having representation at
every level, including a black woman on the United States
Supreme Court for the first time, is because people voted

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and demanded that.

Speaker 16 (01:08:40):
And the reality of how this system works.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Is that we each have many ways that we are powerful,
and one of those ways, very significantly is through our vote.
People sit down in and go watch and say, Okay, well,
those folks aren't going to vote anyway.

Speaker 16 (01:08:55):
I don't need to listen to them. That's how this works.
I don't feel that way. I'm going to go everywhere.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
That's why I'm in rural parts of North Carolina and
Georgia and other places where people say, oh, your votes
aren't there, but my people are there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
People are there, but Helabama won in state No. Eight.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
The point is that I'm saying that not everyone and
not the system doesn't necessarily work that way. The hard
reality of the system is that often the people whose
policies get pushed through are the people who actually demand
what they want through their votes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Squeaky will gets the most grief.

Speaker 16 (01:09:32):
Often often that is the way it works.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
And when when people who are and I'm not talking
about myself, just anybody who's running for office, when they
see young black people are voting, they're gonna say, well,
I better know they're going to vote anyway, I better
know what they want.

Speaker 16 (01:09:49):
I better listen to them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
What do they want?

Speaker 16 (01:09:52):
Because I see that they turn out in big numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Criminal justice one of the things I keep hearing bidhasse
administration didn't get George Floyd just as Act passed through.
But what you have, though is a very aggressive civil
rights division that and I've covered all the stories the
number of formed police officers, they actually sit, the prison
corrections offices, jailers, and I haven't heard some.

Speaker 16 (01:10:18):
Of the highest numbers in recent history.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
And certainly compare those numbers to Trump administration, well, and
you see a stark difference.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Yes, he had one Parson practice investigation that twelve one ofers.

Speaker 16 (01:10:29):
Did exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Will you can?

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Will you continue having that aggressive of a dj civil
rights division?

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Because the work is being done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
I mean, it doesn't get a lot of attention, and
doesn't it talked about a lot, but is actually happening.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
The work that Christian Clark and others are doing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
They're doing extraordinary work, and that is the work that
would continue in a Harris administration. Let me tell you
something and again because Roland I have to keep stressing
not only the importance of every point, but the contrast
between me and Donald Trump. Under Donald Trump as president,
those cases were not happening with any vigor or commitment.

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And not only that he took resources out of the
Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice. We put
resources into the Civil Rights Division of the Department of
Justice so they could do the job they're supposed to do,
and that absolutely would continue under me and my leadership.
And it's about looking at what people have done what

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they say. Again, you know the record of Donald Trump
on these issues. You know the record of where he
is on things like stopping frisk right and what the
Project twenty twenty five talks about. So there is a
real contrast here on criminal justice, as there is on
almost every issue that we have discussed.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
FBI directors shared white Domesian terrorism was the mere greatest threat.
How do you get folks who are not black to
understand that hate crimes are still real, These things are
actually happening in the country, and they have to be
dealt with and addressed, because when you talk about that,
folks go, oh, no, these things are not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
But the reality is they are.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
And African Americans still are number one when it comes
to hate crimes being reported against us well, and I know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
That because I published the Hate Crimes Report every year
when I was Attorney in General California. And it is
to your point about talking about it and making people
clear that we have actually seen a spike in hate
crimes across the board. And it does not help when
you have somebody who is a former president and running

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to be president again, who is constantly fanning the flames
of hate and division in our country constantly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
You often asked about Israel, guysa Ukraine. I'd never hear
it come up conversations about Africa. You travel there, fastest,
growing six of the top ten fastest growing economies, very young, cognate.
A lot of folks complained about Chinese investment in terms
of your presidency dealing with the in those countries. What

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will that look like, because that's the future of this
world when you look.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
At again those economies, and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
I've been in several countries and those presidents are saying, hey,
we want to be Aldame with me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
I didn't go on that trip, but if you win,
I'll go on the next world.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
Well, let me tell you, so this has been your
preaching to the choir.

Speaker 16 (01:13:27):
I've been listen.

Speaker 5 (01:13:28):
I believe so strongly and I've and that is part
of the work I've done as Vice President that we've
got to change the narrative around the relationship between the
United States and the continent of Africa. For a long time,
it has been one that has been about AID as

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opposed to partnership for investment right partnership, which includes US investment.
So the work I've done as Vice President has been
to begin to check change that relationship, and including the
delegation that I took to the continent which was focused
on I brought billions of dollars and worked on billions

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of dollars of US investment in the continent and in
countries in the continent of Africa looking at what we
need to do around. Also, I've been partnering with technology
companies around digital inclusions, so ensuring that folks have access
to fintech, to financial banking and sectors. But to your point,

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the median age on the continent is nineteen. By twenty fifty,
one in four people on Earth will be on the
continent of Africa. That is so, so so exciting if
we see it in terms of global policy, for the
opportunity it presents to invest in partnership and to do

(01:14:55):
the work that is about understanding the mutual benefit. Very
much on my agenda as a priority. It has been
as Vice president and it will continue to be if
I am and when I am elected president.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
And mentioning those countries. When we talk about immigration, it
has been African Americans. It has been from some quarters
extremely contentious. And I've said, wait a minute, there are
people who are coming from African asients, who are coming
from Haiti, who are coming from Bermuda, who are coming
from different countries.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
And you have these battles happening in Chicago and New York.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
What do you say to African Americans specifically about immigration
and how are you going to deal with that because
those reasons, folks are being sent to various cities to
create the tension. But it's talked about, it's there. It
is a real concern. So what do you say to
African Americans specifically who say shut it all down. Folks

(01:15:56):
can't come in close the border who sound in many
ways like maga folks.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
So first of all, I have prosecuted transnational criminal organizations
for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings. I
have had a career, including now of prioritizing that we
must have a secure border, and in fact, on the
issue of immigration. Let's be clear, some of the most

(01:16:25):
conservative members of the United States Congress, together with others,
had a bill to secure the border even more, and
Donald Trump got wind of it and because he thought
it would hurt his political chances in this election, told
him not to put it up for a vote. He
killed the bill that would have put fifteen hundred more

(01:16:45):
border agents at the border, which is why the Border
Agent Union supported it. That bill would have stemmed the
flow of fentanyl, which is affecting people of every race
and background and geographic location in our country. That bill
would have given more resources to prosecute transnational criminal organizations.
Donald Trump told him cancel that bill because he wants

(01:17:09):
to run on a problem instead of fix a problem.

Speaker 16 (01:17:12):
I'm about fixing problems.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
And that includes when I am elected president, bringing back
up that bord of Security Bill and I will sign
it into law. We also must have an immigration system
that is humane and orderly. We have to increase the
number of asylum judges. We need to make sure that

(01:17:35):
people who are fleeing harm that we give them a
chance to explain their situation in a meaningful way. Because
America also is a place that we have said we
will receive people who are fleeing persecution. They got to
make their case and then they got to be on

(01:17:55):
a path. Will they earn the right to be here
and become which means we need to have a comprehensive
immigration policy that includes requiring people to earn and work
hard to earn their citizenship.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
The last questions, it's your folks are dancing back here,
so I see them all of my periphery, so y'all
can relax.

Speaker 16 (01:18:17):
Cedric Congressman huh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Well, you know he's a Saints fan too, and we'll
talk about that. Why do you why do you want this?
Why do you want to be president? There's somebody who's saying,
why should I trust her the power?

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
New Commander in Chief?

Speaker 16 (01:18:40):
I love our country, Roland.

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
I believe, I believe in the American people, and I
know we are people who have the character, that have ambition,
that have aspirations, dreams, and I intend to be a
president who meets people with opportunities.

Speaker 16 (01:19:03):
For them to not just get by, but get ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
I believe in our country and the importance of its
strength in terms of what that means to the world.
As Vice President of the United States, I have met
over one hundred and fifty world leaders, presidents, prime ministers, chancellors,
and kings. I know the importance of America retaining respect

(01:19:27):
as a power around the globe, and that's why I
am putting in the hard work of working to earn
every person's vote so we can actually turn the page
on what has been otherwise years of an attempt to

(01:19:50):
divide us as a nation, to have Americans point their
fingers at each other, years of belittling people and promoting fear.
Exhausted with that, ready to turn the page. They're ready
for a new generation of leadership. That's about charting a
new way forward, and that's what I intend to do,
with a sense of optimism and being clear eyed about

(01:20:15):
the challenges that folks face and the opportunities that we
have to address those challenges in a way that strengthens
our nation.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Oh sure, appreciate it, and let me wish you a
happy early birthday.

Speaker 16 (01:20:29):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
I'm not going to say to age because I'm not
trying to have all these sisters get attitude.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Tell them I can't believe you did. That's what you know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
Yeah, I would for your well being, I would advise
you not to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
It'll be published anybodyself. Well, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Thanks a lot.

Speaker 16 (01:20:43):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 16 (01:20:50):
Bob and I both voted for Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I voted for him twice. I won't vote for him again.
January sixth was a wake up call for me.

Speaker 16 (01:20:58):
Donald Trump divides people.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
We've already seen what he has to bring.

Speaker 13 (01:21:02):
He didn't do anything to help us.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Kamala Harris, she cares about the American people. I think
she's got the wherewithal to make a difference. I've never
voted for a Democrat.

Speaker 9 (01:21:10):
Yes, yes, both lifelong Republicans.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
The choice is very simple.

Speaker 16 (01:21:14):
I'm voting for Kamala.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
I am voting for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 26 (01:21:20):
IVF is a miracle for us because it allowed us
to have our family. After having my daughter, I wanted
more children, but my embryo transfer was canceled eight days
before the procedure. Donald Trump overturning Roe V. Wade stopped
us from growing the family that we wanted. I don't
want politicians telling me how or when I can have

(01:21:42):
a baby. We need a president that will protect our rights,
and that's Kamala Harris.

Speaker 16 (01:21:47):
I'm Kamala Harris, and I approved this message.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Of one hundred Republicans who worked in national security for
President's Reagan both pushes and for President Trump now endorsing
Harris for president.

Speaker 22 (01:21:58):
She came up a prosecutor, an attorney general into the Senate.

Speaker 17 (01:22:04):
She has a kind of character that's going to be
necessary in the presidency.

Speaker 27 (01:22:08):
Vice President Harris is standing in the breach at a
critical moment in our nation's history. We have a shared
commitments as Americans to do what's right for this country.
This year, I am proudly casting my vote for Vice
President Kamala Harris.

Speaker 24 (01:22:26):
Former generals, secretaries of Defense, secretaries of the Army, Navy
and Air Force, CIA directors, and National Security Council leaders
under Democratic and Republican presidents, Republican members of Congress, and
even former Trump administration officials agree there's only one candidate
fit to lead our nation, and that's Kamala Harris.

Speaker 16 (01:22:48):
I'm Kamala Harris and the cool businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Hello, we're the Credit Fixes.

Speaker 11 (01:22:52):
I'm doctor Verna Hags, and I'm doctor Terrence Ferguson, and
you're tuning into Roland Martin.

Speaker 10 (01:22:56):
I'm filth.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
All right, folks, let's talk about that interview with our panel. Julian,
I'm a Congo and Rinita. Let's get it going. Rinada,
I'll start with you first.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:23:22):
I thought that was a great and informative interview.

Speaker 15 (01:23:24):
I'm glad that you took the time to do that
because a lot of the questions where you know, remembering
that Vice President Harris was she came in as a
nominee much later into the campaign season because of what
happened with Biden relinquishing the nomination, meant that she has
not had as much time to get her message out

(01:23:44):
like other like in a traditional campaign. So I think
that these opportunities to sit down and really go over
issues that are targeted at certain communities, in this case
targeted to the black community. That was a great and
informative conversation. I like that you brought up some topics
that I think that we probably would never see covered
in mainstream media, not even on the left. Particularly when

(01:24:05):
you brought up what she thought about relations with Africa.
I thought that that was very important in something that
we likely would not see covered in the campaign cycle.
So again, it's why black media matters. This interview really
shows it. So I thought that there were a few
key things in the interview that it was good that
we had a chance to hear her elaborate on what
she really feels, and that to me really stood out

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as one of those moments.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
It's interesting, Julian because when I asked the Africa question,
she starts smiling because it doesn't get asked, and that's
actually that's things that she's actually worked on exactly.

Speaker 18 (01:24:43):
I mean, the fact is that Africa policy is very
barely mentioned by any president, and yet we know that
there is a symbiotic relationship, both because we're African Americans
of African descent and because there is Africa policy that
we've relinquished to China and Russia. So I saw her
smile and I just thought, yes, absolutely, there's so many

(01:25:04):
things that could be said.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
I was surprised. I'm not surprised, but I was kind
of surprised.

Speaker 18 (01:25:09):
I had wished that you'd ask her about Haiti also,
but I didn't like the comments that she made around
what she wants to do with the economy. I think
that's really important. I mean, another question Roland might have been.
But you know, it was a great interview, so I'm
not being critical much. But the whole both both Harris

(01:25:29):
and Trump say they're going to lower inflation.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
I'm really interested in how they think they're going to
lower inflation. Inflation is not a presidential purview, you know.
I thought it was a thorough interview.

Speaker 18 (01:25:40):
I thought that it was very good that she You
saw sight of her that you don't often see, because
I think she was relaxed with you. Yeah, she was relaxed,
and she was very self possessed and have some humor
in the process. And that's what we want to see
in a president. We don't want to see somebody who scowls,
as missus Trump did for the whole debate. I mean,

(01:26:03):
just scout, you want to see someone who hasn't. You
saw her human side, and I was really pleased about that.
The housing piece is also really important, and I think
the way you approached it allowed her to really elaborate
on some of the historical trends in terms of housing,
the fact that we haven't built housing and I don't
know how long, and also the fact that we look at.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Housing units and look at what we have.

Speaker 18 (01:26:30):
She times about historical trends in terms of black hole
ownership and where we've lost ground, we've actually lost ground.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
So great shot.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Really well.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Again, we only had thirty minutes, So you know, I
couldn't you know if they had given me the forty
five minutes. They gave the forty seven minutes. All the smoke,
got the forty three minutes. The girl, the white girl
would call me daddy got, or the one hour in
six minutes, Howard's third and got.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I could have asked a lot more of those questions.

Speaker 27 (01:27:02):
So I was, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I was limited in my time, So I had, I had,
I had a lot more stuff I wanted to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Uh and trust me, Uh, that's what I know. That's
what I wanted.

Speaker 26 (01:27:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
I'm gonna congo the thing here that that first of all,
part of the thing on the housing deal. Look, I've
been hitting that thing for a very long time. And
this is and all the people who watch it. And
this is really for the artists to understand and lead
the patalan as well. That and this ain't about this
ain't about patting myself on the back. But here's the problem.
I need everybody understand. Here's the problem. When y'all watched

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most of these interviews, most of these interviews, these hosts
don't no ship yep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Y'all know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
I need anybody to watch it understand most of these hosts,
if y'all actually queue back up, y'all didn't see me
sitting there with no cards on my lap.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Okay, I ain't have my iPad out. I didn't even
have my phone out, and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
So for me, don't I don't even I didn't sit
down before man let me sort of go over. I
did not I have an idea of what I was
some things I wanted to cover. I look at topics,
but the other thing is on the congo. I listened
to the person while they're talking, and I sort of

(01:28:25):
want want the conversation to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Flow that way.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Uh. And literally, it was only like an hour before
when somebody had posted on Twitter that clip of her
saying I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I'm
gonna do specifically for black people. But they was posted
the whole clip, so you got context, and I just thought, hey,

(01:28:50):
you know what this clip.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
They've been running this damn clip out of context for
five years. Let me open up with this.

Speaker 7 (01:28:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
But that's just the fact. That's the fact.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Most of these people asking questions, they can't ask no
deep housing question because they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Know this stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:29:08):
You're absolutely right, and that's why I like what the
lake Rachel Madison said. He said, you know your next
question is always based off of the last answer, right.
So many of these journalists and hosts, they have these
questions that they just have to get through before the break,
before the person gets with stop. But there's no real
conversation there, and so the candidate or whoever the interviewee
is just gets to give their talking points. But one

(01:29:30):
of the things that she did, which was so great,
when you were bringing up the housing thing and going
on the stats about housing not being built and so
on and so forth, she was like, I'm glad you
brought that up. And that shows that there's that familiarity
there because she knows the history. But also she can
talk about her policies that she's done relating to her
before she even got to the White House, which is
extremely important for us to see that she's been in

(01:29:52):
this fight. And she did that several times throughout the interview,
going on with what Ronita was saying about certain things
that she liked that we don't really hear.

Speaker 13 (01:29:59):
Another interviews was the education piece.

Speaker 14 (01:30:02):
I've never heard anyone ask her about education and what
she thinks about public schools, charter schools.

Speaker 13 (01:30:07):
And all of that.

Speaker 14 (01:30:07):
And I'm sure more time y'all could have gone deeper
on the education piece in an interview.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Sure wanted to and again, yeah right, and go ahead,
go ahead.

Speaker 14 (01:30:18):
And the other one, the other piece was talking about
the immigration issue as it relates to the black community
and African Americans and how African Americans should be seeing Africans.

Speaker 13 (01:30:30):
And I would add to doctor malvol said, you.

Speaker 14 (01:30:32):
Know Haitians as well, like that she could speak to
that dichotomy because that's also something that she's lived and seen.
And so not only did you ask questions that she
never gets asked, but you parsed out questions that she
may get asked, but you took it to a deeper
level in terms of how it affects our community and
you know, she's going on with Charlemagne tomorrow. I doubt
she's gonna get that. She's going out with Brett Baar

(01:30:52):
on Wednesday with Fox Like doubt she's gonna get that.
So we needed our opportunity to have that real conversation
with people from marcammunity.

Speaker 13 (01:31:00):
So I'm really glad of what you were able to
produce there, you know, And if of.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
All the folks who were watching again, y'all have seen
me show us on numerous times.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
But this is what I was talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
This is the fact in the lowest prior to twenty ten,
the fewest number of homes built in the United States
was four point seventy nine million homes between nineteen forty
and nineteen forty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
And that was when the federal government.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Then passed a law specifically to deal with the issue
of building housing stock in this country. And what you'll
see right here, y'all, you'll see ten million, nine point
nine and a half million, twelve million, twelve million, twelve million.
It jumped a fourteen and a half million in two
thousand and nine and boomed. The housing foreclosure crisis hit

(01:31:56):
in two thousand and eight impacted US in two thousand nine,
and then this was the result. If y'all want to
better understand why there's a major housing crisis in the
United States, it's right here. The fact that we built
eight million fewer homes in between twenty ten in twenty nineteen,

(01:32:19):
and the problem is we've built fewer homes than we
should be doing in twenty twenty to present day. So
everybody else when they keep talking about her housing plan,
they keep focusing on the twenty five thousand dollars. They
all I've watched all these shows. They all completely ignored

(01:32:40):
her saying we got to build three million, three million
more new homes, providing incentives for developers, because here's the piece,
and she talked about it. If you do that, then
what's going to happen is cost of housing is going
to go down because you got more stock, because you demand,
your demand is already there, so now you've got more availability.

(01:33:03):
And what it does is it lowers what's happening with
rental property. So the problem we have right now in
America there are people who can afford a new home
who are actually renting. And so I just need people
to understand how our economy is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Supposed to work.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
We're supposed to transition from rental into owning, but when
private equity, and then the estimate is that private equity.
And again that's why I wish I had ooh, o god,
my god, I have fifty more minutes, because private equity
is going to be owning forty percent of all single
family homes by twenty and thirty y'all, that's in six years.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Forty percent. Private equity don't want you owning the house.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
They want you paying high rents because they gonna keep
making money.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
And so that for me, that's why for everybody to.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Understand, that's why I didn't waste I didn't waste time
asking her about Obama's comments about black Beann because I
was there at the hundred Black Men conference and so
the Shade Room did an interview with her.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
They asked her.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
I didn't know what they were going to ask, but
I purposely didn't ask that question because I knew what
other folks were going to ask. I wasn't wasting my
time in on Israel, Gaza or no Ukraine question because that,
of course has been asked five thousand times. I saw
that damn interview NABJ did and I was sitting here like,
I wouldn't ask half of them damn questions, because there

(01:34:27):
are questions that white media asked, you know. And so
I just and so I need people to understand, this
is why black on media matters. This is why we
have to have access, because we're going and we're supposed
to go there asking different stuff than what they put

(01:34:47):
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
And that's just important.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
So again, I just people understand that I thought would also,
and it was important to get her on the record.
And they've been talking about it again, Donald Trump's attacks
on black cities and then how she expanded on that
and then asking her about hate crimes and about the
Department of Justice Civil Rights Division. That stuff, to me,

(01:35:14):
Rinita again doesn't get covered. I'm gonna tell you right now.
And I don't told Kareine Jean Pier this directly. I
don't told the chief of staff this directly. I don't
told Nearer Tanning directly. I'm like, I don't know why
the hell y'all never talk about what the hell is
going on with the Department of Justice. Because it's some
great work being done, y'all never talk about it.

Speaker 15 (01:35:34):
Right, And I think that the reason they never talk
about it is because they're still trying to straddle the
line and basically kind of straddle the line of trying
to please people who don't want to see cops critique
at all versus people who want to see actual, you
know us move closer to everybody being dealt with fairly
and equally within the criminal legal system.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
And so I think that they make a mistake with that.

Speaker 15 (01:35:55):
You know, listen, as I know from having a campaign
many many times to the public, is that you're not
going to win everyone's vote.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
That is impossible.

Speaker 15 (01:36:03):
So you have got to understand who your base is
and you have got to go for those folks and
go for the portion of electric that you need in
order to win an election. So I think that there
were a lot of details in that part of the
interview that, like you said, we're not going to hear
those types of breakdowns of mainstream media because they mostly
cover what is a quick to cover what is not
very complex, because then that sort of lends to more

(01:36:26):
of the entertainment style of news, and that's generally what
they stick to. Anything that's going to be complex but
still important are things that are not generally going to
be covered by mainstream media. So I was glad that
you hit on that and we were able to hear
more of what the DOJ has been doing and also foc.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
So, folks, right now we are watching waiting for Vice
person to Kaallin Harris to walk out at the rally
she's holding right now in Erie, Pennsylvania. As soon as
she does, we're going live to that. And one of
the things she's going to be doing is hitting Donald
Trump on his comment about a pull audio up please.
She's gonna be hitting Donald Trump about his comment of

(01:37:04):
using of using the military bring it down some guys.
When I say bring it, just give you, don't give
you all of it. She's gonna be hitting Donald Trump
hard on his comments about using the military against his
political enemies.

Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
And I was gonna play the clip, but I'm told
she is gonna actually play the clip in this rally.
So let's go live uh to Erie, Pennsylvania for the
Vice Presidents rally in this important battleground state.

Speaker 28 (01:37:52):
Kelly here again, everybody, all right, Oh, it's good to

(01:38:25):
be back in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
Here.

Speaker 29 (01:38:34):
Everybody all right, all right, all right, come on.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
We got work to do. We got work to do.

Speaker 5 (01:38:43):
Okay, okay, okay, thank you, thank you everybody, Thank you everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
And I want to thank all of the leaders who
are here.

Speaker 5 (01:39:06):
Thank you all for taking time out of your busy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
Lives to be here this evening.

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
And for all of us to be together. Can we
hear it for Senator Fetterman your next day, Attorney General
Eugene Depascuala, mayor Shember Bob Casey, who cannot be here
tonight because he's out doing what he needs to do

(01:39:37):
to get re elected to the United States Senate.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
All right, okay, let's get to work. Let's get to work. Okay, okay.
So here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
Pennsylvania, we got just twenty two days until election day,
twenty two days, and we are nearing.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
The home stretch. But here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
This is going to be a tight race until the
very end. Okay, we are the underdog. We are running
like the underdog. We have some hard work ahead of us.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
But here's the thing. Also, we like hard work. Hard
work is good work.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
And with your house.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
In twenty two days, we will win.

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
We will win.

Speaker 29 (01:40:37):
We will win.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
We will win.

Speaker 7 (01:40:42):
We will win.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
We will win.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
And here's why. And here's why.

Speaker 5 (01:40:50):
Because this election is about two very different visions for
our nation. One his focused on the past and ours
focused on the future. We are focused on issues that

(01:41:12):
matter most to families across America, like bringing down the
cost of living, investing in small businesses and entrepreneurs, protecting
reproductive freedom, and keeping our nations secure.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
But that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
Is not what we hear from Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
Instead, it is just the same old, tired playbook. He
has no plan for how he would address the needs
of the American people and American families.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
He is only.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
Focused on himself. Well, folks, it's time to turn the page.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Sign to turn the page.

Speaker 30 (01:42:04):
Turn the page, because America is ready to chart a
new way forward, and America is ready for.

Speaker 31 (01:42:19):
A new and optimistic generation of leadership. Which is why Democrats, Republicans'
independents are supporting our campaign. Because we need a president
who works for all the American people.

Speaker 5 (01:42:43):
We are all in this together, and as you all know,
this has been the story of my entire career. My
entire career, I've only had one client, the people. As
a young court prosecutor, I stood up for women and
children against predators. As Attorney General California, I took on

(01:43:06):
the big banks fought to deliver twenty billion dollars from
middle class families who faced foreclosure.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
I stood up for veterans and students who were.

Speaker 5 (01:43:20):
Being scammed by for profit colleges.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
For workers who are being cheated out of the wages
they were do, for.

Speaker 5 (01:43:34):
Seniors facing elder abuse. And it is my pledge to
you as president, I will always fight for all.

Speaker 16 (01:43:42):
The American people.

Speaker 5 (01:43:45):
Always, and together, together we all will build a brighter
future for our nation.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
Together, we will build a future.

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
Where we have what I call an opportunity economy, where
everyone can compete and have a real chance to succeed,
not just.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
To get by, but to get ahead. Under my economic plan.

Speaker 5 (01:44:25):
And by the way, you know, so dude wants to
talk about his plans, which really are about cutting taxes
for the richest people, please do check out the Wall
Street Journal or Goldman Sachs or the sixteen Nobel laureates
or Moodies who have all analyzed the plans and said
mine will strengthen the economy. His will make it weaker. Okay,

(01:44:53):
So under my economic plan, we will bring down the
cost of housing wo and help first time home buyers,
giving them twenty five thousand dollars for down payment assistance,
so you can just so you can just get your

(01:45:14):
foot in the door. You'll do the rest, gave up,
You'll work hard, but just.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
To help people get their foot in the door.

Speaker 5 (01:45:25):
We will help entrepreneurs start and grow small businesses.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
How many small business owners do we out here? I
love our small businesses. I love you guys. Know what's
part of my story. You know, my mother worked hard.
We grew up.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
We lived in an apartment above a daycare center and
it was owned by all right, yes daycare centers, bless you.
And it was owned by Miss Shelton, who we think
of and thought of as our second mother.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
And she was a small business owner. And Miss Shelton
she was.

Speaker 16 (01:46:01):
Like all of you who do this work.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
You are business leaders, but you are community leaders. You
are civic leaders.

Speaker 16 (01:46:07):
You mentor you hire locally. I love our small businesses.

Speaker 5 (01:46:11):
Small businesses are part of the backbone of America's economy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
So you all know what I'm talking about. And as
we move forward, what we are.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
Going to do in terms of knowing that small businesses
must get the support you need to start up and
to grow. We will expand under my economic policy Medicare
to cover home health care for seniors, so more seniors

(01:46:46):
can live at home with dignity.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
And like so many of my priorities, it is born
out of.

Speaker 16 (01:46:51):
A personal experience.

Speaker 5 (01:46:53):
Look, when my mother got diagnosed with cancer, I took
care of her, and for any of you who have
taken care of someone.

Speaker 16 (01:47:04):
A senior in particular, you know what that's like.

Speaker 5 (01:47:07):
And it's about trying to cook something for them that
they might enjoy eating. It's about trying to make sure
that they have something that they can wear that won't
irritate their skin, right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
It's about trying to from time.

Speaker 5 (01:47:20):
To time find a way to just bring a smile
to their face or make them laugh.

Speaker 16 (01:47:24):
It's about dignity.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
It's about dignity. It's about dignity.

Speaker 5 (01:47:35):
But far too many people who want and need to
take care of family members, either you have to leave
your job or spend down everything you have to be
able to qualify for Medicaid.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
That's not right.

Speaker 5 (01:47:50):
I look at the Sandwich generation, so we refer to
folks who are raising young children and taking care of
your parents.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
The Sandwich generation. Between balancing all of that, it's a
lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
Pressure, and you need and deserve to have the support
to be able to handle all of that in a
way that we know you are adding so much to our.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
Community societies and our economies.

Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
So I have a plan, and my plan is to
make sure Medicare not so you have to pay do
everything and get on Medicaid so that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
Medicare helps pay for home health care so you can
do the work you need to get done in terms
of the seniors in your life. Under our plan, we
will lower.

Speaker 5 (01:48:39):
The costs on everything from health care to groceries. Look,
I'm gonna take on corporate price gouging.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Just like I've done before, I'm gonna do it again.

Speaker 5 (01:48:53):
And give a middle class tax cut to one hundred
million Americans, including six thousand during the first year of
your child's life. Knowing again the vast majority of parents
want to parent their children well, but don't always have
the resources to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:15):
And so by.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
Expanding the child tax credit that helps a young family
buy a car seat, buy a crib, do the thing
so fundamental stage of their child's development, just to get
them on the road to what they desire and want
to do, and we all benefit from it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
We all benefit from it. So all of This is
to say, I will always put.

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
The middle class in working families. First, I come from
the middle class, and I will never forget where I
come from, never forget.

Speaker 7 (01:49:54):
Never.

Speaker 6 (01:50:12):
So so.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
I just outlined for you a little bit, a little
bit plan. Now let's talk about Donald Trump. Well, he
has a very different plan.

Speaker 5 (01:50:28):
Take for example, Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
Just google it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:36):
It is a detailed and dangerous plan for what he
will do if he is elected president. You know, y'all
probably heard me say Donald Trump, I think, in our
collective opinion, certainly mine.

Speaker 16 (01:50:48):
Is an unserious man, but.

Speaker 5 (01:50:55):
The consequences of him ever being president again.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Are brutally serious, brutally serious. So on Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
In his plan, donald Trump will give billionaires in corporations
massive tax cuts like he's done before, cut social security
and medicare. The plan on that end is to get
rid of the thirty five dollar cap on insulince for seniors,

(01:51:26):
to make it easier for companies to deny overtime pay
for workers.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
You got to read the plan, I mean, the.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
Fact they put it in writing is a whole other
thing to be discussed. And he plans to impose what
I call a Trump sales tax, a twenty percent tax
on everyday necessities, which economists have measured will cost the
average American family more than four.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
Thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 5 (01:52:02):
And on top of all of this, Donald Trump intends
to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
And he has no plan to replace it. You guys
launched the debate, right.

Speaker 25 (01:52:20):
He has quote concepts of a plan, concepts, but seriously,
think about it, in all seriousness.

Speaker 5 (01:52:32):
He's going to then threaten health insurance coverage for forty
five million people based on a concept. The seriousness of
this cannot be overlooked. Think about that, taking us back
to a time we all remember when insurance companies could

(01:52:52):
deny people with pre existing conditions.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
You remember what that was. Well, we are not going back.

Speaker 7 (01:53:04):
We are not looking back.

Speaker 18 (01:53:11):
We are not going back.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
No, and why are we not going back? Because we
will move forward.

Speaker 5 (01:53:25):
Because ours is a fight for the future, and it
is a fight for freedom, like the fundamental freedom of
a woman to make decisions about her own.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
Body and not have our government telling her what to do.
And we all remember how we got here.

Speaker 5 (01:54:00):
Donald Trump hand selected three members of the United States
Supreme Court to overturn Roe v.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
Wade, and they did.

Speaker 5 (01:54:09):
And now now in America, one in three women lives
in a state with a Trump abortion band.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Think about that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:18):
Many of these bands have no exceptions even for rape
and incests. Which is saying to a survivor of a
crime of violation to their body that you have no
right to make a decision about what happens to your
body next.

Speaker 16 (01:54:34):
That's immoral.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
That's immoral.

Speaker 29 (01:54:38):
And let us agree.

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
One does not have to abandon their faith or deeply
held beliefs to agree the.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Government should not be telling her what to do.

Speaker 29 (01:54:51):
Not the government, Oh no, he chooses.

Speaker 5 (01:55:00):
She will talk with her priest, her rabbi, her pastor,
or her mom, but not the government telling her.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Not a bunch of folks up at a.

Speaker 5 (01:55:09):
State capitol telling her what to do, as though she
don't know what's in.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
Her own best interest and they know better. Come on,
and it is my pledge to you.

Speaker 5 (01:55:22):
When Congress passes a bill to restore the protections and
reproductive freedom nationwide, as President of the United States, I
will proudly sign it into law, sign it in home.

Speaker 29 (01:55:39):
Yes, I will, I will.

Speaker 5 (01:55:48):
So much is on the line in this election, So
much is on I love you back and listen so much,
so much is on the line in this election. And
we have to remember this is not twenty sixteen or
twenty twenty. The states are even higher because a few

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months ago the United States Supreme Court just told the
former president that he would be essentially immune from.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
Anything he dot us while he's in office.

Speaker 5 (01:56:24):
Now, just imagine Donald Trump with no guardrails, right HEMO
has vowed if reelected, that he will be a dictator
on day one, that he would weaponize the Department of
Justice against his political enemies. He who has called for

(01:56:47):
the quote termination of the Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Well, well, so.

Speaker 5 (01:57:03):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, becauseee, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
The courts will handle that. Let's handle November.

Speaker 4 (01:57:13):
Shall we handle November?

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
No, handle November. And we are clear. Look, anybody who
says they.

Speaker 5 (01:57:26):
Would terminate the Constitution of the United States should never
again stand behind the seal of the President of.

Speaker 29 (01:57:37):
The United States.

Speaker 5 (01:57:40):
Never again, never again, never again.

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
So after all these years, we know who Donald Trump is.

Speaker 5 (01:57:56):
He is someone who will stop at no thing to
claim power for himself. And you don't have to take
my word for it. I've set for a while. Now
watch his rallies. Listen to his words.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
He tells us who he is, and he tells us
what he would.

Speaker 5 (01:58:18):
Do if he is elected president. So here tonight, I
will show you one example of Donald Trump's worldview and intentions.

Speaker 3 (01:58:31):
Please roll the clip.

Speaker 22 (01:58:34):
The worst people are the enemies from within, the enemy
from within. Those people are more dangerous, the enemy within
than Russia and China.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
These people should be.

Speaker 16 (01:58:45):
Put in jail.

Speaker 22 (01:58:46):
The way they talk about our judges and our justices. Now,
if you had one really violent day, one rough hour,
and I mean real.

Speaker 17 (01:58:55):
Rough, I think the bigger problem are the people from within.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
We have some very bad people.

Speaker 17 (01:58:59):
We have sick people, radical left lunatics, and I think
they're the and it should be very easily handled by
if necessary, by national God or if really necessary, by
the military.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
So you heard so, you heard his words. You heard
his words coming from him.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
He's talking about the enemy within Pennsylvania. He's talking about
the enemy within our country, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
He's talking about that.

Speaker 5 (01:59:37):
He considers anyone who doesn't support him or who will
not bend to his will an enemy of our country.
It's a serious issue. He's saying he is saying that
he would use the military to go after them. Think

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of about this, and we know who he would target.
And we know who he would target because he has
attacked them before. Journalists whose stories he doesn't like, election
officials who refuse to cheat by filling extra votes and

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finding extra votes for him. Judges who insist on following
the law instead of bending to his will. This is
among the reasons I believe so strongly that a second
Trump term would be a huge risk for America and dangerous.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (02:00:55):
Donald Trump is increasingly unstable and un hinged, and he
is out for unchecked power.

Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
That's what he's looking for.

Speaker 5 (02:01:11):
He wants to send the military after American citizens. He
has worked to prevent women from making their own health
care decisions and threaten your fundamental freedoms and rights like
the freedom to vote, the freedom to be safe from
gun violence, the freedom to breathe clean air and drink
clean water, the freedom.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
To love who you love openly and with cry.

Speaker 5 (02:01:42):
So here in Pennsylvania, I say to those who know best,
when freedom is on the line, Americans always answer the call.
We always answer the call, and in this election, vote

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and so to your point in this election, we will
answer the call again because it all comes down to this.
We are all here together because we know what's at stake,
and we are here together because we love our country.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
We love our country. We love our country.

Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
If it's county, how you all vote, and and thank
you because how you all vote in presidential elections often
ends up predicting the national result.

Speaker 29 (02:03:53):
Yeah, the chance is eerie, eerie, that's right.

Speaker 5 (02:04:10):
And so in Erie County you can vote early in
person at the Erie County Voter Registration Office from now
on till Tuesday, October twenty ninth. And so now is
the time to make your plan to vote. And if
you have already received your ballot in the mail, please

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do not wait.

Speaker 3 (02:04:32):
Fill it out and.

Speaker 5 (02:04:33):
Return it today or tomorrow, but please get it out
and remember the deadline to register to vote in Pennsylvania Sunday,
October twenty first. So if you or anyone you know
has not yet registered, now is the time, because look,
the election is here, and we need to organize. We

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need to mobilize. We need to energize folks, and we
need to remind everybody that their vote is their voice
and your voice is your power.

Speaker 2 (02:05:32):
All right, folks. So the feed from Erie, Pennsylvania keeps freezing.
Let's go back to Erie. Here we go, ready to
fight for it.

Speaker 29 (02:05:45):
And when we fight, we win.

Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
God bless you and God bless you United States.

Speaker 1 (02:05:51):
All right, Not quite sure what was happening technically, but
toward the end of Froze a couple of times Vice
President Kamala Harris, they're in Erie.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
You saw the mash up that she ran.

Speaker 1 (02:06:06):
Of the wild and crazy comments that Donald Trump has
made on this campaign trail, including saying in an interview
that he would use the military to go after his
political enemies. His people are often saying. They often say, oh,
Biden is doing that. Trump won't do it. Ya, y'all

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gotta remember he ordered his own Department of Justice to
investigate Hillary Clinton. So they're absolute lies. So that's just
a lie that you hear them saying.

Speaker 6 (02:06:37):
And so.

Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
What you also, I love these people who called me
when I'm live on the air. So earlier Maxican Waters
called me. I took a call during the break.

Speaker 1 (02:06:48):
So I mean, that's what you see going on here, folks.
Just to understand what's happening here, it's very clear. I thought, now,
just in case y'all again, didn't hear I'm gonna play
for you. This is literally what Donald Trump said about
targeting his political enemies. And if you want to know
why this man has no business being near the Oval

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office and with the Supreme Court decision regarding immunity, guys,
that's not it. Regarding immunity. This man will and I'm
telling y'all right now, this man is going to absolutely
abuse his power. And the problem is the US Supreme
Court is going to let him. The US Supreme Court

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is going to do that. Y'all didn't pull the video
down earlier what he said about political attacking his political
y'a don't have it. Oh nope, y'all should have pulled
it earlier.

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
I sent it in.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
No, what I played early was not trumpet political enemies.
Let me okay, let me just find myself. Tim Walls
actually commented on this a little bit earlier. So this
was and this was an interview that Donald Trump gave,

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giving one second in this in an interview with Maria
Bartiromo on on Fox News, which was actually was an
insane interview, even when she asked him about his Tarrist
proposal and how economists say it is going to actually
drive the deficit up.

Speaker 2 (02:08:31):
All right, here we go, pull the audio up, Here
we go. This is literally what he had to say.

Speaker 23 (02:08:40):
Are you expecting chaos on election day?

Speaker 4 (02:08:42):
No?

Speaker 17 (02:08:43):
I know, thanks, not from the side that votes for Trump.

Speaker 23 (02:08:46):
But I'm just wondering if these outside agitators will start
up on election day. Let's say you win, I mean not.
Let's let's remember you've got fifty thousand Chinese nationals in
this country in the last couple of years. The people
on the terrorist watched, let's three hundred and fifty in
the last couple of years, You've got, like you said,
thirteen thousand murderers and fifteen thousand rapists.

Speaker 2 (02:09:06):
What are you expecting?

Speaker 23 (02:09:07):
Joe Biden said he doesn't think it's going to be
a peaceful election day.

Speaker 17 (02:09:11):
Well, he doesn't have any idea what's happening in Ros.
He spends a lot of his day sleeping. I think
the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even
the people that have come in and destroying our country,
by the way, totally destroying our country. The towns and villages,
they're being inundated. But I don't think they're the problem
in terms of election day. I think the bigger problem

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are the people from within. We have some very bad people.
We have some sick people, radical left lunatics, and I
think they're the and it should be very easily handled
by if necessary, by National Guard or if really necessary,
by the military, because they can't let that happen.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
Trump Donald Trump talked about Donald Trump mentioned in y'all
the enemy within. Anybody else find that to be interesting
that he talks about the enemy within?

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
Hm, this enemy? Is that what he's talking about? Is
you talking about that enemy?

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
Because that was January sixth, twenty twenty one, and that
was a whole bunch of MAGA people.

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Who you know, So was this? How about this.

Speaker 4 (02:11:03):
Captain Landry Country?

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
So I heard them that was a road the radio,
multiple capital injuries. You saw that cop there in a
vice grip his head into matter of fact, this is
the shot.

Speaker 2 (02:11:39):
That's a cop. I thought they back to blue.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
So the enemy with and Julian that's MAGA, that's those maggots,
that's those crazy derange white supremacists. The FBI has arrested
nine hundred people from January sixth, that MAGA people, Conservatives, Republicans,

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that is the enemy within.

Speaker 2 (02:12:06):
Trump people.

Speaker 4 (02:12:10):
Absolutely We've seen it from city to city. You've seen them,
you know.

Speaker 18 (02:12:15):
At Black Lives Matter rallies trying to create disruption, like
the young man who shot two people.

Speaker 4 (02:12:21):
We've seen them and they're rabbed it. They're literally rabbed.

Speaker 18 (02:12:27):
So that he would say, you know, the enemy within,
he must be looking in the mirror and talking about himself.
He is the greatest threat to our constitutions.

Speaker 4 (02:12:36):
Orderly govern that we've ever seen. And you know, he
keeps talking about other people. I've done it. Biden didn't
call for an investigation of Trump. He could have, but
he did.

Speaker 18 (02:12:46):
Of course, Justice Department, the others looked at his illegal behavior,
but President Biden.

Speaker 4 (02:12:52):
Kept his hands off of that. And we have to
keep that in mind.

Speaker 18 (02:12:55):
This man is just a sociopath and a liar, and
he gets away with it because there.

Speaker 4 (02:13:02):
Are so many people that have been brainwashed, literally brainwashed.

Speaker 18 (02:13:06):
There's a thread on Facebook this brother from Atlanta who's
very conservative, and they're basically propagating lies about Kamala, about Biden,
about public policy. But there are many groups like this,
and what they are doing is they're just basically cal
taling the enemy from within.

Speaker 4 (02:13:26):
That's very ironic. The FBI has talked about white domestic terrorism.
They've talked about it as a threat to our democracy,
so have others. So as you look at it, you say,
what is he really talking about?

Speaker 18 (02:13:40):
And I think Kamala also on her rally, had a
really good point when she said, you know, they're going
to go after a journalist, which we've already seen them do.
He'll probably go out, he'll go after anyone who's been
uposing him. That he says he only wants to be
that dictator for that one day. Well, that's a tale.
People don't give power up. So you know, I'm just

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looking at it and shaking my head. I'm glad that
she read the clip. At her rally, Mac got glad
that people got to hear him. But you know, she's
preaching to the choir. People who come to a Kamala
Harris rally are not gonna you know, they're gonna they're
gonna vote, They're gonna be out there. What we need
to do is figure out a way, which is probably impossible,
to pierce the consciousness of some of these Trumpers.

Speaker 4 (02:14:25):
To just have them look at this differently and say, hmmm.

Speaker 1 (02:14:28):
First of all, first of all, that ain't happened. So
the Trumpers. No, no, it's not so it's really a
waste of time. It's really the time kind of do
the Trumpers to win this, you drive your own people
out to win to when you drive the people who
are likely going to vote for you, that's how you
actually win.

Speaker 2 (02:14:44):
I do want to ask you this real quick, Julian.

Speaker 1 (02:14:47):
Being the economists, we all know Maria bart Romo's an
absolute idiot. She is a she's a maggot, she's a
She's one of the folks that she probably wasn't on television.
She would have been out at the Capitol on January sixth.
She probably did did one of the most honest things
she's ever done in asking Trump about his tars and

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actually exposed how stupid he is. I want you to
comment on this. At the play and watched this.

Speaker 23 (02:15:15):
About the criticism and the journal has done this as well,
that if you do put something like a two hundred
percent tariff on a product, that it's only going to
mean higher prices for No, No, it doesn't mean they're
going to be passed on somehow.

Speaker 12 (02:15:28):
All I'm doing is saying I'll put two hundred or
five hundred I don't care. I'll put a number where
they can't sell one car into the United I don't
want them to test sell the car because I don't
want them hurting our car companies. We're going to have
a lot of companies moving into the United States. When
I use two hundred, I'm using it as a number.
I don't want their car. They will not be able
to sell cars. I'm not going to let them build

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a factory right across the border and sell millions of
cars into the United States and destroy Detroit further.

Speaker 1 (02:15:57):
So that's interesting because that's what tears do. The reality
is he's an idiot, Julian terrors. The country doesn't pay tears.
It does not come from the country. The folks who
buy the goods, they're the ones who pay the tariff.
This bacly, this Spanish is literally dumb.

Speaker 18 (02:16:20):
Well, when you listen to him, you have to conclude that.
I mean, he says, although it won't raise prices, it
will raise prices, as you know, as Barbiromo, who is
not a genius, said, costs going to be passed on somewhere.
You import a car from wherever, you put the twenty
percent tariff on it. That means the price is higher.

(02:16:42):
Now the importer may choose to absorb some of the price,
but they're not going to absorb all of it. And
so the twenty percent across the board tariff that he's
talked about means for goods that are produced elsewhere, significant
inflationary pressure. And there's so many goods that are basically
manufactured elsewhere. You know, our sororities and fraternities offered by

(02:17:06):
you know, the jerseys and the sweatshirts and whatever from
you know, abroad, usually China. I had a sore who
actually had an import business, bringing in goods so she
could sell them back sorority meeting, and she was making
good money too. So just saying people do depend on
you know, and he cannot protect Detroit, he cannot protect

(02:17:30):
us manufacturers we have fairly, it just makes no sense
at all.

Speaker 4 (02:17:34):
It makes no economic sense.

Speaker 18 (02:17:36):
In addition to the fact that let's say that you
were able to shut down Toyota High enday just make
the list, Detroit doesn't have the capacity to produce enough
cars to meet that demand.

Speaker 4 (02:17:48):
And he should know that.

Speaker 18 (02:17:49):
I mean, he goes but he goes to Detroit and
he tells lies. He goes to Detroit and he down
talks the place. So you know, I can't say enough
rollin about how fignorant that man is. And the contrast
is the way that Kamala Harris presents.

Speaker 4 (02:18:08):
At her rallies, in her interview with you.

Speaker 18 (02:18:11):
Every time you see she presents extraordinarily well, you know,
she has good sense, she thinks on her feet, she
doesn't scole, she's not hollery.

Speaker 4 (02:18:21):
There's a big difference.

Speaker 2 (02:18:23):
We'll take this out.

Speaker 1 (02:18:24):
Want you comment on this before actually we go off
the air, go to my iPad. Sixty eight percent of
economists say that Donald Trump's economic policies are going to
actually drive inflation up compared to Vice President Kamala Harris.

Speaker 18 (02:18:44):
Absolutely, if you're going to if you put a slap
of twenty percent tariff on foreign goods, someone's going to
pay more in prices.

Speaker 4 (02:18:51):
That's it.

Speaker 18 (02:18:52):
And we do impoort quite a bit from other countries,
and it will be a price increase. Lots of essential
and services come from other countries. It will be a
price increase. He can't figure it out. That's the problem
is he can't figure it out. And he's supposed to
be such a good business person. Well we all know
he wasn't. As Kamala said, how many bankruptcies. Most people

(02:19:14):
only have one and they learned their lesson. But this guy,
he you know, he gets goes bankrupt like some people
go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (02:19:22):
Absolutely and this actually this folks dropped a couple of
give me just one second. There was a video that
dropped a couple of hours ago that I just want
to play real quick for our control room. We're going
to roll this into our the spot's theory. Run give

(02:19:44):
me one second. Okay, guys, here we go.

Speaker 2 (02:19:47):
Media.

Speaker 1 (02:19:47):
Let me just see if it's here. I see it
on my phone. I'm trying to figure out where it
is on my iPad. Let's see here.

Speaker 2 (02:20:00):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:20:01):
So they have dropped the Hairs campaign has dropped this
commercial here that speaks to Donald Trump and the Central
Park Five.

Speaker 17 (02:20:11):
Watch Ronley convicted teenagers were arrested, tried, convicted, and sent
to prisoner.

Speaker 16 (02:20:17):
Exonering what he did to us.

Speaker 10 (02:20:19):
He tried to end us.

Speaker 2 (02:20:21):
Of course, I.

Speaker 22 (02:20:21):
Hate these people, so called the Central Park five, calling
by execution.

Speaker 2 (02:20:25):
Let's all hate these people. You cannot have this man
go into office again. I want society to him, we
weren't in a secuit. The confessions were coursed. Today we
are exonerated.

Speaker 1 (02:20:36):
That guy says he still stands by the original guilty verdict.

Speaker 6 (02:20:40):
This is about democracy being on the ballot.

Speaker 20 (02:20:45):
Look at Kamala, she represents the kaleidoscope of the human family.

Speaker 2 (02:20:48):
This is something different happening in America.

Speaker 1 (02:20:51):
We will get the opportunity to build the future where
we will be able to thrive and not just survive.

Speaker 2 (02:21:00):
Your thoughts.

Speaker 18 (02:21:04):
I'm so happy that the Central Five were exonerated, the
exonerated five, But the venom and he went after these
young men is reflective of the venom which he will
go after Black people writ large. We've already seen some
of what he has had to say about the Springfield
Haitian people.

Speaker 4 (02:21:24):
Haitian you know, legal immigrants, legal immigrants. We've already heard
what he's had to say about our cities. We've heard
what he has to say.

Speaker 18 (02:21:34):
About African countries, and so the clips are well done
in terms of what he talks about.

Speaker 4 (02:21:39):
He hates these people. You can hate the crime, don't
hate the criminal.

Speaker 18 (02:21:43):
His hatred is more generic, is hate of black people,
except for those few people that he can gather up
for black.

Speaker 4 (02:21:50):
Men, for Trump and things like that. We don't have
a y room for hatred in the White House. We
simply don't.

Speaker 2 (02:21:58):
Absolutely, Julian, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot, folks. That
is it for us.

Speaker 1 (02:22:03):
We're gonna have more on tomorrow's show. Let me also
do this here, get just give me a second. We're
going to be in North Carolina, on North Caroline.

Speaker 2 (02:22:17):
Just hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
We're gonna be in North Carolina on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:22:25):
So I'm just gonna read it for you. Just just okay.
So let's see here.

Speaker 1 (02:22:30):
So Wednesday, we're broadcasting from Elizabeth City State University. Uh,
don't show it yet. I need to double check to
make sure the QR code works. Hold on one second.

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
D all right, here we go, y'all. So show the
QR code.

Speaker 12 (02:22:52):
This.

Speaker 2 (02:22:52):
This is the QR code. Uh, point your camera to this.

Speaker 1 (02:22:56):
We're broadcasting live from Elizabeth State University on Wednesday. On Wednesday,
we're gonna put together a graphic. We're gonna put it
on social media. Literally, I just got the email thirty
minutes ago. So this is the cure code for our
broadcast on Wednesday at six pm at elizabeth City State

(02:23:18):
University in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (02:23:20):
Okay, then on Thursday, give me one second, let me
go to it.

Speaker 1 (02:23:28):
On Thursday, we're gonna be broadcasting from Word Tabernacle Church
in Rocky Mount, North Carolina. This is the QR code
for Thursday's broadcast. We would sign up here because we
want to make sure that we got no space and
everything like that. And so again Thursday with broadcasts. I

(02:23:50):
don't know why I say it's six to seven thirty,
but it's six to eight. So we're gonna be there
on Thursday. This is again from Rocky Mount. So again,
so check it out. And so let's see here. On Friday,
give me one second. Friday, we're gonna be broadcasting from

(02:24:10):
Fayetteville State University. This is the QR code right here
for our broadcast at Fayetteville State University. Again, will you
sign up for that as well? And so we're gonna
be there and so can't wait to be there as well.
So lots of things going on.

Speaker 2 (02:24:30):
Stay right there.

Speaker 1 (02:24:31):
That's the cure code Faydeville State again happening on Friday.
So again we head to the Black Belt Tour, North Carolina. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
I'm making some lunching stops. Those have not been locked
in yet. We'll just simply follow our social media and
we'll have that stuff for you.

Speaker 2 (02:24:49):
And so that's happening.

Speaker 1 (02:24:50):
So we're gonna be we're gonna be on the ground
in North Carolina Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and we're talking right
now about broadcasting this show in Michigan, in Wisconsin and Milwaukee. Uh,
and we're even looking at uh that's just Miski, Wisconsin.
So we're looking at that. So we'll keep your breast

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Speaker 2 (02:25:54):
At bookstores nationwide. Folks, that's hit. I'll see y'all tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:25:58):
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This is one of the shirts that came from a
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Change dot org you can actually get this T shirt
they have too.

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It's a light of gray.

Speaker 1 (02:26:10):
I had that one on the other day, and so
this voting while Black t shirt came from what was it,
color Change?

Speaker 2 (02:26:15):
All right, y'all, that's it. I'll see y'all tomorrow.

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Speaker 2 (02:26:25):
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Speaker 10 (02:26:33):
A real revolution there right now.

Speaker 2 (02:26:35):
Thank you for me in the voice of Black americ
almoment that we have. Now we have to keep this going.

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and something like CNN.

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