November 14, 2023 • 24 mins
It's the episode we've been ANXIOUSLY awaiting!
We're only two episodes into the new season of The Real Housewives of Miami, but Larsa and Marcus already have a lot of shade coming their way!
In this episode, they respond to the eye-rolls and the catty comments aimed at their lovey-dovey ways with three simple words, "Misery Loves Company."
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
And we're back with another episode of Separation and Anxiety.
I'm your host, Marcus.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jordan and I'm Larsa Pippen.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And it's been a little minute since we've done an episode, right,
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I feel like it's definitely been a minute, and we
have so much to talk about it. I feel like
it's time to start. We need to start talking.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, I feel like we've been living life.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You know, there's a lot of drama, there's a lot
of content going on, and so I think it's a
great time to kind of reignite the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, I kind of feel like when you know, when
we're filming Housewives, it's a lot like yes, summer in Miami,
filming Housewives is like hot, We're filming all the time,
you know, we're bickerings. It's kind of stressful.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, I mean, obviously you finished filming Housewives. You took
like two weeks off, and then we went to Scotland
to film The Traders, and so it's definitely been a busy,
busy you know, past few weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We obviously had Bravo.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Khan, the new season of Real Housewives of Mine Yammi
is on, So it's definitely it's been crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's hectic right now.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So let me ask you a question. Would you do
The Traders again? If you were asked to be on
it again, I definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Would do it again.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It was it was a unique experience, you know. I
didn't realize how serious they take the competition there in
terms of like, you know, being secluded away from one
another and not being able to talk about the game
all the time. No phones, no phones, no controllers in
the rooms.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
No, it was just a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It was like we didn't even have our key cards
to our room, you know, we had to be escorted
to and from and I think the hardest part for
me is not being able to stay with you.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know, we couldn't stay in the same room, which
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I do feel like being on The Traders, Like if
I had to compare The Traders to Housewives, it's so
different because I feel like the physical aspect of it
is hard. It's like challenging, Like we had a couple
of those things I thought I was going to die on.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
No, but I think that was my favorite part, just
because like the missions, you know, it just you know,
I grew up watching MTV's the Challenge and like Survivor
and all that stuff, and so to be thrown into
that type of universe, I think it was fun. And plus,
you know, you don't have your phones, there's no outside distractions,
and so I felt like every day we were looking
forward to the suspense of like what's today's mission is
(02:11):
going to be, and like, I we survive.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You know, literally, I was stressed out every morning. I'm like,
oh my god, am I going to be murdered? Am I? Like?
Just so many different things, and then, like you said,
the missions were really challenging. Yeah, she was very physical,
and I thought I was in great sheep until I
got there, and then I realized I can be in
better shape.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Now you're definitely in great shape. I mean I look
at you every day. So which one do you think
is harder to do? Is it Housewives in Miami or
The Traders?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I kind of feel like the Traders because it's more
stressful every day.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, and you're being thrown into a castle with a
bunch of people you don't know, and it's hard to
like gauge people and who you're gonna like.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, it's definitely a unique game.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So but I love it. I would do it again
for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I definitely would do it again. I feel like it was.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Uh and honestly, the producers were amazing. The cast that
they chose was so much fun. I ended up we
ended up liking everyone.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So yeah, it was a great cast and so I'm
excited for it to, you know, air next year. But
I guess we'll have to We'll have to wait for
that right now.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, let's talk about Bravo Con.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Let's talk about it. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, I'm still sick from Bravokan.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean you definitely were a little under the
weather all weekend, but you pushed through.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I mean you had a busy schedule.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, there was a lot going on. But it's amazing
to see how much Bravo has really grown. Yeah. I
like it way better in Las Vegas than New York.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, I just feel like it becomes like a true
destination thing. It's like, you go to Vegas for Bravocan.
When it's in New York, I feel like there's so
many other things happening in the city that's it kind
of gets lost in the sauce a little bit. Yeah,
but they did a great job in Vegas. The production
was through the through the roof. I mean, Andy's always,
you know, a top notch dude. Shout out to Andy now,
he's the best.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We had so much fun. I feel like getting you know,
getting a chance to see all the other you know,
franchises and just where half these people have come from me,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Now it was over one hundred and fifty voelebrities from
all different types of shows, and you know, there was
a little bit of drama.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I feel like it and the beef is real on
these shows, you guys, like it's definitely real, and I
felt like I was kind of witnessing it. Yeah, like
when we're hanging out with like Terreesa Judais and then
like I'm scared to post her because I feel like,
am I going to offend Melissa. It's like a weird situation.
But I almost feel like it's like other people's beef
and we shouldn't get involved. Yeah, and then I feel
(04:25):
like Caroline Stanbury, she's one of my best friends. She
has beef with a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, So I think that was something that I, you know,
didn't really know going into Bravo Khan, but leaving, I realized, like, Okay,
you know she's allegedly she's a shit starter, is what
people say.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, I mean I love her so much, she's so
not But I do feel like when I was meeting
I met a couple of girls on her show, and
they're like, Oh, we wanted to say hi to you
last year at Bravo Con, but you know we were
scared because we knew how close you are to Caroline.
And I'm like, oh, so then I can't be nice
to you. And I literally said that to him, like, oh,
I'm very loyal to my girlfriend, so by the way,
I can't really be friends with you now.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I think it's easier for the guys, for sure,
just because you know, for us, we don't get as
tangled as much in the drama.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So you know, I was hanging out with Louis, who's
Teresa's husband.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I was hanging out with Joe, who's Melissa's husband,
hanging out with Sergio, who's Caroline's man, and so you know,
I just feel like it's easier for the guys to
kind of navigate because it's less Caddy.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I guess, no, for sure, But what about Jennifer Aiden
and Danielle. I felt like, I'm so close to Jennifer
that I don't know Danielle, and so I'm going to
leave that one alone.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's different.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Their situation got physical.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, that's wild, you know, and it happens.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But you know, I feel like if it's hard to
I feel like you have to make your own opinion
about people. You know, as you interact with them, you
can kind of make your decision on you know, who's right,
who's wrong. But if you don't interact with that person,
then it's kind of like just let it be. Just
let it be, stay out of the way, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Okay, So we're two episodes into The Real Housewives in Miami, Okay,
and how do you feel seeing yourself on TV?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know, I feel like it's easy. You know, Look,
I played basketball my whole life.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I've obviously been someone in the limelight my whole life,
and so you know, filming I felt was natural for me.
And so but the thing, the tricky thing about watching
it is that you are at the mercy of the editors,
you know a little bit. And so that's the one
thing that I was a little nervous about is am
I gonna look right on TV and I feel like
I'm doing doing fun killing you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, you're great. But I did see a few of
the girls rolling their eyes like mirrorsol when we or
when we were kind of like all over each other.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think we're gonna get to that
in a little bit. But uh, I just think, you know, look,
misery loves company, and I think we love each other
so much that sometimes it either helps other couples or
it could be a distraction for other couples or put
their relationship on notice, because you know, if you're not
happy in the confines of your relationship and you get
around us with so lovey dovey and touchy and stuff,
(06:51):
it's it's sometimes like why don't I have that? Or
I would like to go have that? And so I
think we've seen it a lot in our personal lives,
and so Bravo was like an extension.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Of that, you know, no, totally. Even Sergio Sergio was
like Caroline's husband. He was like, I want Caroline to
be grabbing me the way you grab market, right, And
I was like, We're just used to being all over
each other at all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I think people have different love languages, you know, and
one of our love languages is touch and you know,
being all over each other and hints the title of
our podcast, Separation Anxiety. You know, we always want to
be together, I know. But talking about going back to
brabo com for a second, were there any other provelebrities
that you bumped into that maybe you didn't get along
(07:31):
with or you were surprised that they were so friendly?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, I feel like everyone has always been pretty friendly
to us. Yeah, I think so, I do. I mean,
we did run into Gerty, and I've just been avoiding her.
You know, I feel like it's a situation that's so delicate. Yeah,
that's the word delicate.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, No, for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I mean, obviously, you know, her health is the main priority,
and you know, I'm happy to hear that she's cancer
free now, at least that's what she said at Bravo Com.
But you know, as the show plays out, you know,
you have a little bit of a of a spat
and so, uh, you know, what's what's your takes on
how it's gone so far?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, what me not knowing? You know, the first
two episodes, I didn't know that she had cancer and
she was crying and she was saying, I'm gonna call
for you. But we're not close like that, so I
don't know what she's saying.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think when you have a real friendship and a
real bond, you don't have to say the words and
I'll understand what you're saying. But her and I have
never really been close, so it's kind of hard to
gauge where she's coming from and you know what's going
on because one minute she's yelling at me and then
she's saying, I'm going to call for you. Yeah, And
so for me, I just I'm just confused. And I
don't want to come off like as being a bitch,
(08:41):
because it's not what I am. But at the same time,
I'm like, I just don't know what's going on. I'm
so lost, like genuinely, like I'm completely lost, and so
I'm you know.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, no, I think over the next few episodes, or
at least the course of the season, you know, you'll
see the story play out. And honestly, I'm looking forward
to the reunion just because you know, at the nally
and they tease it in the trailer, you know, Russell
got a little vocal with you also, and so I'm
you know, I'm looking forward to having that conversation with Russell,
like y'all keep that same energy, because when I'm around
he's pretty quiet.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, well why is he talking to me? Why
does to stop?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And that's my main thing is like, look, as a
man on the housewife franchise, stay out of the women's business,
stay out of the women's drama. Let the ladies handle
their thing, you know what I'm saying, don't get in
the middle of it. And so, you know, I don't know,
we'll see, We'll see as the as the season progresses.
But yeah, how about you, know, like you said, two
episodes of aired, are you do you feel like family
(09:34):
and friends are reaching out to you? I know my
mom has you know, We've been sending my mom the
episodes a little early, just trying to keep her in
the loop. She's a huge Andy Cohen fan, and so
you know, she's reached out. She's excited about it, at
least so far.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But what about you, I mean, I feel like it's good.
It's just I feel like my my situation this season
is going to be challenging because it's like I'm arguing
with someone that you know is sick, and how do
you art like I? And I'm the funny thing is
I'm not even arguing.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
With her, well, I think, And that's the thing is like, as.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It progresses, I'm the beneficiary of the like you know,
I'm the punching bag. So it's like hard for me to.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like, I think your personalities are very different, very different,
and you know, I think the way you guys communicate
is very different. And so I just think that there's
a lot of misconceptions. I know that you come from
a good place, your intentions are always you know well,
and so yeah, I don't want to give too much
away without you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Know, lives there. But I also feel like before Alexias party,
her New Horizon party, I had called and texted Gertie
when she said that I was being fake, And so
when I saw her, what other choice do I have
besides address it, like, Hey, why did you say I
was fake? It's not like I wanted to like ask
that Alexias party, but I just wanted clarity. I was like, Hey,
(10:50):
I called, I texted you. Why would you say that
about me when I've always been there to support you?
I've been her biggest fan, and so for me, I
just don't like, you know, not having ann standing of
where we are in our relationship. I feel like clarity
is really important any relationship, and so it you know,
I just wanted to know what was going on.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I think one of the things that I love about
you the most is that you like to tackle shit
right away, you know, and so if somebody says something,
or if there's a task for you to do, you know,
you like to address it in as soon as you can.
And so I think that's a little bit of what
happened in that episode is that was the first time
you'd seen Gerty since that comment, and you wanted to
address it. And so obviously she's had she's got other
(11:29):
things on her mind dealing with her diagnosis. But you know,
you didn't know that. So your thought process is let me,
you know, let me clear the air. You don't like
murky water, which you've said repeatedly, and you know that's
that's kind of how it all fell out.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So let me ask you a question. What did you
think about the whole thing with Alexis party. So, yeah,
so I asked Gerty the question, Yeah, but with Todd
not being there. Was it weird for you going to
Todd's apartment and him not being there, or were you fine?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You know, I didn't realize that Todd wasn't there until,
you know, half way through the party, and so I
definitely think it was a little bit weird.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I understand, you know, his concerns and his you know
cause for pause or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But you know, I just don't.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
As all the guys were there except for Todd, you know,
and so I just feel like it was a little
bit weird. But I also kind of understand, you know,
where he's coming from. But I will say, you know,
once you guys started turning up a little bit, and
I think it was Julia and Marisol started going at
it a little bit on the couch. That's kind of
like my cue to like peace out, go grab some tequila,
(12:32):
you know, let the ladies do their thing. I think
Anthony was the first one to step out, and I
jokingly said, look, I'm not far behind you, and I
really wasn't. No.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I know, sometimes you know, and our arguments are like
we like to kind of get it off our chuest.
You know, we spend a lot of time together and
if we have issues, it's hard to like just throw
them under the rug, you know, like sweep them under
the work rug. We're not good like that. I feel
like we're all outspoken with strong women, so it's like
if we have issues with each other, I feel like
we address them.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, And I think, look, as a guy in that instance,
you know, you have to always support your woman, right
or wrong, you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Know, but I'm always right though, right, You're always right.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But I just think, you know, it's as much as
you can let the women handle their business, you know
what I'm saying, don't get in the middle of it
at all.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, totally. So a lot of people were questioning, you know, Alexia, like,
so did Todd not show up because of Adriana or
was Alexia hiding something?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know, look, I think that's kind of the hidden
storyline right now, is that there's trouble in Paradise or
there's financial issues whatever. You know, from what I've seen,
I think that they're doing fine.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know, I'm a big Alexi and Todd fan.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You know, we do dinner with them all the time
when we're in Miami, and so, you know, I don't
know I think it's interesting. You know, you never know
what the conversations are that you're not privy to, you know,
what I'm saying, and so you kind of have to
wait to watch the episodes to see how everything is
playing out. And so I guess we'll see, you know.
I think the first two episodes they kind of address it, and.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, you know they I also feel I also feel
like Todd has a right to change his mind. Maybe
he just didn't want to be around all those people.
I go through things like that sometimes where I wake
up and I'm like, by the way, I don't want
to go to that party.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, and you know, look, it's not easy always being
miked up and having the cameras on you, and you know,
you got to be on your A game, and so
sometimes you know, people are human and so sometimes you know,
they might want to take a step back or you know,
chill out, sit one out.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You know, yeah, totally, which is I think what he
was doing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So, you know, Marisol, when we were and a Bravo,
Khan said, you know, I really didn't mean everything that
I said when I said, you guys are you know
when I was making all those faces because you guys
are always all over each other. Yeah, I was joking.
I didn't mean it, and I was like, oh, it's fine. Like,
you know, I feel like a lot of people in
relationships should be more loving, but I also think it's contagious.
(14:57):
So if you hang out with a couple that's loving
and gives each other attention, I feel like you're more
apt to do that too. But if you hang out
with people that don't really like each other, that can
be contagious too.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think, you know, misery loves company, and people hate
the fact that we are so happy together. And I
guess where we come from, our histories, you know, backgrounds, whatever,
and so you know, to hear Kiki talking shit, and I.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Think, first of all, Keiki is dying for a boyfriend,
so why is she talking about our relationship exactly?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And I think Lisa had some comments to you know, look,
I mean it was at that point, very early in
our relationship also, and so we had never really been
a part for longer than a week or anything like that.
And so you know, like I appreciate it. You know,
it's I appreciate anytime you want to throw me a party,
feel free, you know, my birthday is coming up too.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know what's interesting, I feel like a lot of people,
you know, we do podcasts, and when people talk about us,
I feel like they still don't know who we are.
And you know, we did a podcast.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, a week ago, we did Pablo Torre's podcasts and
you talk a lot of shit, a lot of shit,
you know, and you know, I wasn't too familiar with
the format of his show. Maybe that's on us not
doing our research or whatever, but uh, yeah, I feel
like the first half segment of the show was talking
crazy and so you know, it's just funny because then
(16:18):
when we did our interview, they didn't really keep that
same energy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I felt like, you know, obviously they were they had
listened to the podcast, they were familiar with.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It, but they our interview was very fluffy.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It was very one.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It was very fluffy, and I feel like their commentary
that aired before our interview was, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It was pretty biased.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It was a hit piece.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It was a little bit of a hit piece.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And now I actually having watched it back, I wish
that that producer, you know, there was some off I
can't remember the dude's name. I just wish he was there,
because I feel like our interview would have taken a
different tone and we would have been able to clap
back a little bit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, you know what the problem is. I think we're
too nice because we really don't talk about people, and
I think we do come from a place of like
we just want to be together, I think. But at
the same time, I feel like, why are all these
people hating on us? They are miserable?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That has to be what it is, because I feel
like we're good at clapping back. We will respond to negativity,
but at the same time, it's like we don't start shit,
we finish it, you know what I'm saying. And so
I just wish that we had an opportunity. Actually, we
should try to invite them onto our podcast. That's what
we should do. Oh my gosh, But I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's funny because I feel like the people that have
so much to say are so miserable in their real lives.
If we took five seconds to research that much, I
would never even do because they're not worth our time.
You'd really realize these people are a bunch of losers. Yeah,
Like they really are losers.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So it's all good. I think, you know, you take
the good with the bad. And I still feel like
we came out on top of that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No, totally. I just feel like when people like, it's
that other guy too, what's his name that vlat TV
or whatever?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Oh yeah, I mean that's another dude.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean it's funny to me how many times he
says my like.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's like, well, that's my thing is like him Cameron.
Like these guys that love to bring like that, they
love to bring you up, you know, just to take clear.
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
What's amazing to me when they think that there's so
much beef with me in my ex by the way,
there's not. Yeah, by the way, Like it's not like that.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I just feel like what I don't like is guys
talking negatively about women and you know, publicly. And I
feel like that's the tone that Vlad takes all the time, obviously,
you know, Cameron and makes with their little podcast or
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
They always got.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Something slick to say, and I just think it's funny,
you know, because you know, don't throw stones when you
live in a glass houses.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What I should say, well, not just that, but I
feel like, you know, when you know you're really mature,
when you want to see your ex happy. Yeah, And
I feel like I've always been in that place, you
know what I'm saying. I want to see everyone happy
for sure, and so I feel like some of these
people apparently are not that happy.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I just think it's hard for people to get over
the fact of our past and our background, like where
we come from, you know. And and you know, I
just think that people can't put themselves in our shoes,
so they want to talk shit.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And I also feel like.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
They got they can never fit the shoe, by the way.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, and they also have weak shows that are looking
to get ratings also, so you know you're hot, you're hot.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping baby,
So I guess not. That's kind of how that goes.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
How do you feel like shooting this season of the
Housewives has changed our relationship in any way?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I think shooting Housewives and doing the Traders has definitely
made us closer. Yeah, just because we've been spending so
much more time together, Like we used to spend twenty
three and a half hours a day together and now
we're spending twenty four hours a day together. Yeah, so
it's definitely made us closer working with each other.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I feel like, Yeah, I feel like it just gives
us an opportunity to kind of dive deeper into our
relationship a little bit. And you know, honestly, people always
say that putting your relationship in the spotlight, you know,
could be the downfall of it, or you know, filming
on reality TV might break people.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Up or something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And I feel like it's actually made us a lot
closer just because you know, we were always were constantly
talking about, Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
This is what we've got to do today, this is
what you've got.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You support me, I support you, you know, And so
I just think that different strokes for different folks, you.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Know, for sure. But I will say that if you
have issues off, you know, if you have issues in
your real life, the camera will catch it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, that's really what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, So I think, you know what, let it be
what it's going to be. I feel like, if you,
you know, put yourself out there and you're in a
good place, great, And I'm sure I've seen so many
people go through multiple divorces on reality.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, I think, look, the longer that you are on
you know, a reality show, the more that your life,
your real life, will come out, you know, and so
you know the good, the bad, and ugly. And I
feel like, you know, you know, people that have been
on reality TV for twelve thirteen years have been through divorce, marriage,
divorced again, married again, and so I just think, you know,
(21:01):
it just it just depends.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, I think it's life. You know, when you're living,
you're going to go and you're going to experience things,
and you're going to go through things, and that's kind
of what, you know, what happens in real life, and
the cameras are to catch it.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah. And so do you think that there was any
friction between us when we filmed on the show? No?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Why would I would address it on camera. I wouldn't care.
I'd be like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, I would say it. I feel that.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, I feel like we had a great time shooting Housewives.
It was super fun for sure, for sure, and it's
kind of fun for me also because I feel like
it's like I'm in a new place in my life
and I couldn't really date anyone and put them on
the show. Before you, just because I wasn't solid like
that with anyone. And I hate when I see like
girls on these shows bring guys on that they know
(21:45):
that they don't really have a connection with or relationship with,
and it's like, hey, I'm going to bring this model
into film. You know, I've gone on one date with him,
but I feel like it's not genuine and it's not real,
And for me, I would never want to do that.
I would never want to put, you know, myself out
like that was someone that I'm not comfortable with and
that I'm not like in a great place with.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, I definitely feel like there were times where we
were filming Housewives where they wanted us to shoot with
other people and I'm like, look, if it's not a
real relationship or if it's not authentic, then like keep
us out of it, you know what I'm saying, because
we're not here to validate somebody else's you know, fake
storyline or something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
But I feel like, you know, they you know, when
Kiki goes on dates sometimes she's like, Hey, I want
you guys to come, can we film it? And I'm like,
I don't think my boyfriend wants to sit through, Like,
I don't think you want to sit through first date.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, that's what I can't say.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It's one thing if it's a first date, it's another
thing if it's like somebody that you've been spending time
with over a period of time, you know, And so
you know, I just think that, you know, as long
as I can steer, you know, clear, I'm here. I'm
there to support you. I'm not necessarily there to meet
anybody else or make friends. You know, I hear you,
what is your take on anybody else? I'm like, Bravo
(22:58):
kind with Lisa. I know, you guys did the right
carpet a little bit together.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, I feel like Lisa is in a better place.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
She's definitely in a good spot. Shout out Jody.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I feel like she's talking a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I feel like she's talking, you know less.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
About her situation, her ex.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I'm like, should even say his name?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But yeah, I think, you know, I think it was
an overall good past two weeks, you know, with Bravo
Khan the first two episodes next Wednesday. I think that's
the other thing too. People don't realize that is that
your show is back on Bravo. Yeah, on Wednesdays, you know,
and so Wednesday night o'clock, make sure people tune in
Wednesday nine o'clock on Bravo and then it reruns on
(23:40):
Peacock on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yep. I feel like a lot of people don't know
that because it comes on right after Her House a
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I feel like we've had a great couple of
weeks for the last couple of weeks, and I feel
like we need to, you know, ramp things up.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I think we're back, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think now our schedules are a little you know,
slowing down a little bit. We're going into the holidays,
and I think, you know, it's time to pick this
energy back up on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I love that for us. I love that for us
for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, it's definitely been fun catching up. We've definitely been
feeling some separation and anxiety since.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Our last episode.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know, we missed you guys, missed you guys a lot,
and so make sure to follow us on Instagram at
Separation Underscore Anxiety Underscore Podcast and catch you next up.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Guys, Love you, Peace,
And we're back with another episode of Separation and Anxiety.
I'm your host, Marcus.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jordan and I'm Larsa Pippen.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And it's been a little minute since we've done an episode, right,
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I feel like it's definitely been a minute, and we
have so much to talk about it. I feel like
it's time to start. We need to start talking.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, I feel like we've been living life.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You know, there's a lot of drama, there's a lot
of content going on, and so I think it's a
great time to kind of reignite the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, I kind of feel like when you know, when
we're filming Housewives, it's a lot like yes, summer in Miami,
filming Housewives is like hot, We're filming all the time,
you know, we're bickerings. It's kind of stressful.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, I mean, obviously you finished filming Housewives. You took
like two weeks off, and then we went to Scotland
to film The Traders, and so it's definitely been a busy,
busy you know, past few weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We obviously had Bravo.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Khan, the new season of Real Housewives of Mine Yammi
is on, So it's definitely it's been crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's hectic right now.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So let me ask you a question. Would you do
The Traders again? If you were asked to be on
it again, I definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Would do it again.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It was it was a unique experience, you know. I
didn't realize how serious they take the competition there in
terms of like, you know, being secluded away from one
another and not being able to talk about the game
all the time. No phones, no phones, no controllers in
the rooms.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
No, it was just a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It was like we didn't even have our key cards
to our room, you know, we had to be escorted
to and from and I think the hardest part for
me is not being able to stay with you.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know, we couldn't stay in the same room, which
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I do feel like being on The Traders, Like if
I had to compare The Traders to Housewives, it's so
different because I feel like the physical aspect of it
is hard. It's like challenging, Like we had a couple
of those things I thought I was going to die on.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
No, but I think that was my favorite part, just
because like the missions, you know, it just you know,
I grew up watching MTV's the Challenge and like Survivor
and all that stuff, and so to be thrown into
that type of universe, I think it was fun. And plus,
you know, you don't have your phones, there's no outside distractions,
and so I felt like every day we were looking
forward to the suspense of like what's today's mission is
(02:11):
going to be, and like, I we survive.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You know, literally, I was stressed out every morning. I'm like,
oh my god, am I going to be murdered? Am I? Like?
Just so many different things, and then, like you said,
the missions were really challenging. Yeah, she was very physical,
and I thought I was in great sheep until I
got there, and then I realized I can be in
better shape.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Now you're definitely in great shape. I mean I look
at you every day. So which one do you think
is harder to do? Is it Housewives in Miami or
The Traders?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I kind of feel like the Traders because it's more
stressful every day.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, and you're being thrown into a castle with a
bunch of people you don't know, and it's hard to
like gauge people and who you're gonna like.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, it's definitely a unique game.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So but I love it. I would do it again
for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I definitely would do it again. I feel like it was.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Uh and honestly, the producers were amazing. The cast that
they chose was so much fun. I ended up we
ended up liking everyone.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So yeah, it was a great cast and so I'm
excited for it to, you know, air next year. But
I guess we'll have to We'll have to wait for
that right now.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Okay, let's talk about Bravo Con.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Let's talk about it. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, I'm still sick from Bravokan.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean you definitely were a little under the
weather all weekend, but you pushed through.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I mean you had a busy schedule.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, there was a lot going on. But it's amazing
to see how much Bravo has really grown. Yeah. I
like it way better in Las Vegas than New York.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, I just feel like it becomes like a true
destination thing. It's like, you go to Vegas for Bravocan.
When it's in New York, I feel like there's so
many other things happening in the city that's it kind
of gets lost in the sauce a little bit. Yeah,
but they did a great job in Vegas. The production
was through the through the roof. I mean, Andy's always,
you know, a top notch dude. Shout out to Andy now,
he's the best.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We had so much fun. I feel like getting you know,
getting a chance to see all the other you know,
franchises and just where half these people have come from me,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Now it was over one hundred and fifty voelebrities from
all different types of shows, and you know, there was
a little bit of drama.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I feel like it and the beef is real on
these shows, you guys, like it's definitely real, and I
felt like I was kind of witnessing it. Yeah, like
when we're hanging out with like Terreesa Judais and then
like I'm scared to post her because I feel like,
am I going to offend Melissa. It's like a weird situation.
But I almost feel like it's like other people's beef
and we shouldn't get involved. Yeah, and then I feel
(04:25):
like Caroline Stanbury, she's one of my best friends. She
has beef with a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, So I think that was something that I, you know,
didn't really know going into Bravo Khan, but leaving, I realized, like, Okay,
you know she's allegedly she's a shit starter, is what
people say.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, I mean I love her so much, she's so
not But I do feel like when I was meeting
I met a couple of girls on her show, and
they're like, Oh, we wanted to say hi to you
last year at Bravo Con, but you know we were
scared because we knew how close you are to Caroline.
And I'm like, oh, so then I can't be nice
to you. And I literally said that to him, like, oh,
I'm very loyal to my girlfriend, so by the way,
I can't really be friends with you now.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I think it's easier for the guys, for sure,
just because you know, for us, we don't get as
tangled as much in the drama.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So you know, I was hanging out with Louis, who's
Teresa's husband.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I was hanging out with Joe, who's Melissa's husband,
hanging out with Sergio, who's Caroline's man, and so you know,
I just feel like it's easier for the guys to
kind of navigate because it's less Caddy.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I guess, no, for sure, But what about Jennifer Aiden
and Danielle. I felt like, I'm so close to Jennifer
that I don't know Danielle, and so I'm going to
leave that one alone.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's different.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Their situation got physical.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, that's wild, you know, and it happens.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But you know, I feel like if it's hard to
I feel like you have to make your own opinion
about people. You know, as you interact with them, you
can kind of make your decision on you know, who's right,
who's wrong. But if you don't interact with that person,
then it's kind of like just let it be. Just
let it be, stay out of the way, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Okay, So we're two episodes into The Real Housewives in Miami, Okay,
and how do you feel seeing yourself on TV?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know, I feel like it's easy. You know, Look,
I played basketball my whole life.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I've obviously been someone in the limelight my whole life,
and so you know, filming I felt was natural for me.
And so but the thing, the tricky thing about watching
it is that you are at the mercy of the editors,
you know a little bit. And so that's the one
thing that I was a little nervous about is am
I gonna look right on TV and I feel like
I'm doing doing fun killing you.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, you're great. But I did see a few of
the girls rolling their eyes like mirrorsol when we or
when we were kind of like all over each other.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think we're gonna get to that
in a little bit. But uh, I just think, you know, look,
misery loves company, and I think we love each other
so much that sometimes it either helps other couples or
it could be a distraction for other couples or put
their relationship on notice, because you know, if you're not
happy in the confines of your relationship and you get
around us with so lovey dovey and touchy and stuff,
(06:51):
it's it's sometimes like why don't I have that? Or
I would like to go have that? And so I
think we've seen it a lot in our personal lives,
and so Bravo was like an extension.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Of that, you know, no, totally. Even Sergio Sergio was
like Caroline's husband. He was like, I want Caroline to
be grabbing me the way you grab market, right, And
I was like, We're just used to being all over
each other at all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I think people have different love languages, you know, and
one of our love languages is touch and you know,
being all over each other and hints the title of
our podcast, Separation Anxiety. You know, we always want to
be together, I know. But talking about going back to
brabo com for a second, were there any other provelebrities
that you bumped into that maybe you didn't get along
(07:31):
with or you were surprised that they were so friendly?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, I feel like everyone has always been pretty friendly
to us. Yeah, I think so, I do. I mean,
we did run into Gerty, and I've just been avoiding her.
You know, I feel like it's a situation that's so delicate. Yeah,
that's the word delicate.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, No, for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I mean, obviously, you know, her health is the main priority,
and you know, I'm happy to hear that she's cancer
free now, at least that's what she said at Bravo Com.
But you know, as the show plays out, you know,
you have a little bit of a of a spat
and so, uh, you know, what's what's your takes on
how it's gone so far?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, what me not knowing? You know, the first
two episodes, I didn't know that she had cancer and
she was crying and she was saying, I'm gonna call
for you. But we're not close like that, so I
don't know what she's saying.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think when you have a real friendship and a
real bond, you don't have to say the words and
I'll understand what you're saying. But her and I have
never really been close, so it's kind of hard to
gauge where she's coming from and you know what's going
on because one minute she's yelling at me and then
she's saying, I'm going to call for you. Yeah, And
so for me, I just I'm just confused. And I
don't want to come off like as being a bitch,
(08:41):
because it's not what I am. But at the same time,
I'm like, I just don't know what's going on. I'm
so lost, like genuinely, like I'm completely lost, and so
I'm you know.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, no, I think over the next few episodes, or
at least the course of the season, you know, you'll
see the story play out. And honestly, I'm looking forward
to the reunion just because you know, at the nally
and they tease it in the trailer, you know, Russell
got a little vocal with you also, and so I'm
you know, I'm looking forward to having that conversation with Russell,
like y'all keep that same energy, because when I'm around
he's pretty quiet.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, well why is he talking to me? Why
does to stop?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And that's my main thing is like, look, as a
man on the housewife franchise, stay out of the women's business,
stay out of the women's drama. Let the ladies handle
their thing, you know what I'm saying, don't get in
the middle of it. And so, you know, I don't know,
we'll see, We'll see as the as the season progresses.
But yeah, how about you, know, like you said, two
episodes of aired, are you do you feel like family
(09:34):
and friends are reaching out to you? I know my
mom has you know, We've been sending my mom the
episodes a little early, just trying to keep her in
the loop. She's a huge Andy Cohen fan, and so
you know, she's reached out. She's excited about it, at
least so far.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But what about you, I mean, I feel like it's good.
It's just I feel like my my situation this season
is going to be challenging because it's like I'm arguing
with someone that you know is sick, and how do
you art like I? And I'm the funny thing is
I'm not even arguing.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
With her, well, I think, And that's the thing is like, as.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It progresses, I'm the beneficiary of the like you know,
I'm the punching bag. So it's like hard for me to.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like, I think your personalities are very different, very different,
and you know, I think the way you guys communicate
is very different. And so I just think that there's
a lot of misconceptions. I know that you come from
a good place, your intentions are always you know well,
and so yeah, I don't want to give too much
away without you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Know, lives there. But I also feel like before Alexias party,
her New Horizon party, I had called and texted Gertie
when she said that I was being fake, And so
when I saw her, what other choice do I have
besides address it, like, Hey, why did you say I
was fake? It's not like I wanted to like ask
that Alexias party, but I just wanted clarity. I was like, Hey,
(10:50):
I called, I texted you. Why would you say that
about me when I've always been there to support you?
I've been her biggest fan, and so for me, I
just don't like, you know, not having ann standing of
where we are in our relationship. I feel like clarity
is really important any relationship, and so it you know,
I just wanted to know what was going on.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I think one of the things that I love about
you the most is that you like to tackle shit
right away, you know, and so if somebody says something,
or if there's a task for you to do, you know,
you like to address it in as soon as you can.
And so I think that's a little bit of what
happened in that episode is that was the first time
you'd seen Gerty since that comment, and you wanted to
address it. And so obviously she's had she's got other
(11:29):
things on her mind dealing with her diagnosis. But you know,
you didn't know that. So your thought process is let me,
you know, let me clear the air. You don't like
murky water, which you've said repeatedly, and you know that's
that's kind of how it all fell out.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So let me ask you a question. What did you
think about the whole thing with Alexis party. So, yeah,
so I asked Gerty the question, Yeah, but with Todd
not being there. Was it weird for you going to
Todd's apartment and him not being there, or were you fine?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You know, I didn't realize that Todd wasn't there until,
you know, half way through the party, and so I
definitely think it was a little bit weird.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I understand, you know, his concerns and his you know
cause for pause or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But you know, I just don't.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
As all the guys were there except for Todd, you know,
and so I just feel like it was a little
bit weird. But I also kind of understand, you know,
where he's coming from. But I will say, you know,
once you guys started turning up a little bit, and
I think it was Julia and Marisol started going at
it a little bit on the couch. That's kind of
like my cue to like peace out, go grab some tequila,
(12:32):
you know, let the ladies do their thing. I think
Anthony was the first one to step out, and I
jokingly said, look, I'm not far behind you, and I
really wasn't. No.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I know, sometimes you know, and our arguments are like
we like to kind of get it off our chuest.
You know, we spend a lot of time together and
if we have issues, it's hard to like just throw
them under the rug, you know, like sweep them under
the work rug. We're not good like that. I feel
like we're all outspoken with strong women, so it's like
if we have issues with each other, I feel like
we address them.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, And I think, look, as a guy in that instance,
you know, you have to always support your woman, right
or wrong, you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Know, but I'm always right though, right, You're always right.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But I just think, you know, it's as much as
you can let the women handle their business, you know
what I'm saying, don't get in the middle of it
at all.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, totally. So a lot of people were questioning, you know, Alexia, like,
so did Todd not show up because of Adriana or
was Alexia hiding something?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know, look, I think that's kind of the hidden
storyline right now, is that there's trouble in Paradise or
there's financial issues whatever. You know, from what I've seen,
I think that they're doing fine.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I do too.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know, I'm a big Alexi and Todd fan.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You know, we do dinner with them all the time
when we're in Miami, and so, you know, I don't
know I think it's interesting. You know, you never know
what the conversations are that you're not privy to, you know,
what I'm saying, and so you kind of have to
wait to watch the episodes to see how everything is
playing out. And so I guess we'll see, you know.
I think the first two episodes they kind of address it, and.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, you know they I also feel I also feel
like Todd has a right to change his mind. Maybe
he just didn't want to be around all those people.
I go through things like that sometimes where I wake
up and I'm like, by the way, I don't want
to go to that party.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, and you know, look, it's not easy always being
miked up and having the cameras on you, and you know,
you got to be on your A game, and so
sometimes you know, people are human and so sometimes you know,
they might want to take a step back or you know,
chill out, sit one out.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You know, yeah, totally, which is I think what he
was doing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So, you know, Marisol, when we were and a Bravo,
Khan said, you know, I really didn't mean everything that
I said when I said, you guys are you know
when I was making all those faces because you guys
are always all over each other. Yeah, I was joking.
I didn't mean it, and I was like, oh, it's fine. Like,
you know, I feel like a lot of people in
relationships should be more loving, but I also think it's contagious.
(14:57):
So if you hang out with a couple that's loving
and gives each other attention, I feel like you're more
apt to do that too. But if you hang out
with people that don't really like each other, that can
be contagious too.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think, you know, misery loves company, and people hate
the fact that we are so happy together. And I
guess where we come from, our histories, you know, backgrounds, whatever,
and so you know, to hear Kiki talking shit, and I.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Think, first of all, Keiki is dying for a boyfriend,
so why is she talking about our relationship exactly?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And I think Lisa had some comments to you know, look,
I mean it was at that point, very early in
our relationship also, and so we had never really been
a part for longer than a week or anything like that.
And so you know, like I appreciate it. You know,
it's I appreciate anytime you want to throw me a party,
feel free, you know, my birthday is coming up too.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know what's interesting, I feel like a lot of people,
you know, we do podcasts, and when people talk about us,
I feel like they still don't know who we are.
And you know, we did a podcast.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, a week ago, we did Pablo Torre's podcasts and
you talk a lot of shit, a lot of shit,
you know, and you know, I wasn't too familiar with
the format of his show. Maybe that's on us not
doing our research or whatever, but uh, yeah, I feel
like the first half segment of the show was talking
crazy and so you know, it's just funny because then
(16:18):
when we did our interview, they didn't really keep that
same energy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I felt like, you know, obviously they were they had
listened to the podcast, they were familiar with.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It, but they our interview was very fluffy.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It was very one.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It was very fluffy, and I feel like their commentary
that aired before our interview was, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It was pretty biased.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It was a hit piece.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It was a little bit of a hit piece.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And now I actually having watched it back, I wish
that that producer, you know, there was some off I
can't remember the dude's name. I just wish he was there,
because I feel like our interview would have taken a
different tone and we would have been able to clap
back a little bit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, you know what the problem is. I think we're
too nice because we really don't talk about people, and
I think we do come from a place of like
we just want to be together, I think. But at
the same time, I feel like, why are all these
people hating on us? They are miserable?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That has to be what it is, because I feel
like we're good at clapping back. We will respond to negativity,
but at the same time, it's like we don't start shit,
we finish it, you know what I'm saying. And so
I just wish that we had an opportunity. Actually, we
should try to invite them onto our podcast. That's what
we should do. Oh my gosh, But I don't really know.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's funny because I feel like the people that have
so much to say are so miserable in their real lives.
If we took five seconds to research that much, I
would never even do because they're not worth our time.
You'd really realize these people are a bunch of losers. Yeah,
Like they really are losers.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So it's all good. I think, you know, you take
the good with the bad. And I still feel like
we came out on top of that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No, totally. I just feel like when people like, it's
that other guy too, what's his name that vlat TV
or whatever?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Oh yeah, I mean that's another dude.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean it's funny to me how many times he
says my like.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's like, well, that's my thing is like him Cameron.
Like these guys that love to bring like that, they
love to bring you up, you know, just to take clear.
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
What's amazing to me when they think that there's so
much beef with me in my ex by the way,
there's not. Yeah, by the way, Like it's not like that.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I just feel like what I don't like is guys
talking negatively about women and you know, publicly. And I
feel like that's the tone that Vlad takes all the time, obviously,
you know, Cameron and makes with their little podcast or
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
They always got.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Something slick to say, and I just think it's funny,
you know, because you know, don't throw stones when you
live in a glass houses.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What I should say, well, not just that, but I
feel like, you know, when you know you're really mature,
when you want to see your ex happy. Yeah, And
I feel like I've always been in that place, you
know what I'm saying. I want to see everyone happy
for sure, and so I feel like some of these
people apparently are not that happy.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I just think it's hard for people to get over
the fact of our past and our background, like where
we come from, you know. And and you know, I
just think that people can't put themselves in our shoes,
so they want to talk shit.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And I also feel like.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
They got they can never fit the shoe, by the way.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, and they also have weak shows that are looking
to get ratings also, so you know you're hot, you're hot.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping baby,
So I guess not. That's kind of how that goes.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
How do you feel like shooting this season of the
Housewives has changed our relationship in any way?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I think shooting Housewives and doing the Traders has definitely
made us closer. Yeah, just because we've been spending so
much more time together, Like we used to spend twenty
three and a half hours a day together and now
we're spending twenty four hours a day together. Yeah, so
it's definitely made us closer working with each other.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I feel like, Yeah, I feel like it just gives
us an opportunity to kind of dive deeper into our
relationship a little bit. And you know, honestly, people always
say that putting your relationship in the spotlight, you know,
could be the downfall of it, or you know, filming
on reality TV might break people.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Up or something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And I feel like it's actually made us a lot
closer just because you know, we were always were constantly
talking about, Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
This is what we've got to do today, this is
what you've got.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You support me, I support you, you know, And so
I just think that different strokes for different folks, you.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Know, for sure. But I will say that if you
have issues off, you know, if you have issues in
your real life, the camera will catch it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, that's really what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, So I think, you know what, let it be
what it's going to be. I feel like, if you,
you know, put yourself out there and you're in a
good place, great, And I'm sure I've seen so many
people go through multiple divorces on reality.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, I think, look, the longer that you are on
you know, a reality show, the more that your life,
your real life, will come out, you know, and so
you know the good, the bad, and ugly. And I
feel like, you know, you know, people that have been
on reality TV for twelve thirteen years have been through divorce, marriage,
divorced again, married again, and so I just think, you know,
(21:01):
it just it just depends.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, I think it's life. You know, when you're living,
you're going to go and you're going to experience things,
and you're going to go through things, and that's kind
of what, you know, what happens in real life, and
the cameras are to catch it.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah. And so do you think that there was any
friction between us when we filmed on the show? No?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Why would I would address it on camera. I wouldn't care.
I'd be like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, I would say it. I feel that.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
No, I feel like we had a great time shooting Housewives.
It was super fun for sure, for sure, and it's
kind of fun for me also because I feel like
it's like I'm in a new place in my life
and I couldn't really date anyone and put them on
the show. Before you, just because I wasn't solid like
that with anyone. And I hate when I see like
girls on these shows bring guys on that they know
(21:45):
that they don't really have a connection with or relationship with,
and it's like, hey, I'm going to bring this model
into film. You know, I've gone on one date with him,
but I feel like it's not genuine and it's not real,
And for me, I would never want to do that.
I would never want to put, you know, myself out
like that was someone that I'm not comfortable with and
that I'm not like in a great place with.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, I definitely feel like there were times where we
were filming Housewives where they wanted us to shoot with
other people and I'm like, look, if it's not a
real relationship or if it's not authentic, then like keep
us out of it, you know what I'm saying, because
we're not here to validate somebody else's you know, fake
storyline or something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
But I feel like, you know, they you know, when
Kiki goes on dates sometimes she's like, Hey, I want
you guys to come, can we film it? And I'm like,
I don't think my boyfriend wants to sit through, Like,
I don't think you want to sit through first date.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, that's what I can't say.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It's one thing if it's a first date, it's another
thing if it's like somebody that you've been spending time
with over a period of time, you know, And so
you know, I just think that, you know, as long
as I can steer, you know, clear, I'm here. I'm
there to support you. I'm not necessarily there to meet
anybody else or make friends. You know, I hear you,
what is your take on anybody else? I'm like, Bravo
(22:58):
kind with Lisa. I know, you guys did the right
carpet a little bit together.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, I feel like Lisa is in a better place.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
She's definitely in a good spot. Shout out Jody.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I feel like she's talking a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I feel like she's talking, you know less.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
About her situation, her ex.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I'm like, should even say his name?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But yeah, I think, you know, I think it was
an overall good past two weeks, you know, with Bravo
Khan the first two episodes next Wednesday. I think that's
the other thing too. People don't realize that is that
your show is back on Bravo. Yeah, on Wednesdays, you know,
and so Wednesday night o'clock, make sure people tune in
Wednesday nine o'clock on Bravo and then it reruns on
(23:40):
Peacock on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yep. I feel like a lot of people don't know
that because it comes on right after Her House a
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I feel like we've had a great couple of
weeks for the last couple of weeks, and I feel
like we need to, you know, ramp things up.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I think we're back, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think now our schedules are a little you know,
slowing down a little bit. We're going into the holidays,
and I think, you know, it's time to pick this
energy back up on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I love that for us. I love that for us
for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, it's definitely been fun catching up. We've definitely been
feeling some separation and anxiety since.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Our last episode.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know, we missed you guys, missed you guys a lot,
and so make sure to follow us on Instagram at
Separation Underscore Anxiety Underscore Podcast and catch you next up.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Guys, Love you, Peace,
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