October 2, 2023 • 48 mins
He went from the thrills of Beverly Hills to the lure of the hardwood on season 30 of DWTS!
Brian Austin Green joins Cheryl to spill about his time on the dance floor with partner and now fiancée Sharna Burgess. . . like the challenges of having your significant other become your teacher, their portrayal on the show, and the conspiracy theory behind their elimination!
Plus, no tap dancing around this. . . a special 90210 edition of 'rapid fire' questions!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex Lies and Spray Tands with Me Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome to Sex Lies
and Spray Tans.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I have a.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Very special and amazing guest. But before I even give
it away, I just give it. It's a person. It
is a person. I'm so now you just gave it away.
Everyone knows that voice.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Bag.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm going to call you bag.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Do people call you bag? Oh my god, Okay, You're
going to be very I hope flattered by what I'm
about to say. I was only allowed to watch one
hour of TV a week because I come from the
original Dance mom. It was Wednesday nights at eight pm,
Beverly Hills, nine O two one. Oh, You're the only
celebrity on Dancing with the Stars that I've never had
(00:50):
to google work like that is No, you don't understand.
I've googled every single Oh and Iron Zering, obviously that's amazing.
Like oh and Jenny Garth, Yes, who else.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
The show you I have?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I stood on your face every single freaking I feel
about like, I don't know how it is gonna feel
about it either, But like I also had trading cards
do you.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Remember, of course. So we just did nineties Con over
the weekend and signed a bunch of those training cards,
and I made fun of fellow cast members for some
of the pictures that were on those training cards.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You guys were really you guys were so cool. It
was almost like wow, I was so like, I want
to be like this person. I was like really into Shannon.
I don't know that they're actual characters, but I had
the biggest crush on Luke Perry at your rest of
pase yes, yes, like so hot, like too hot to handle.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You know though, coming from Dancing with the Stars, it's
such a machine when you're in it, Like it seems
really cool to anybody on the outside looking at it,
but it's like, I know, you're doing the photo shoots,
you're doing the spray hands, you're doing the things, you're
showing up plus stuff. Yeah, Like I I you know,
I look at those trading cards and I remember when
(02:06):
we did the shoots, like I remember what was happening
that day and who was arguing over wearing what, and
it's I remember all of those things.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, we are gonna because this is actually something I'm
really into, because you know, Honestly, I'm a freaking super
fan when I first met you. Hey, guys, welcome to
Sex Lives and spray Tans. My guest Brian Austin Greed Welcome.
What an intro like. I am just like a fan
girling over here, and I don't know what to do
with myself. But I will say to you that when
(02:36):
I danced with Ian zero season four, I based my
life off seasons on Dancing with the Stars, because that's
how much it's consumed my life. You walked in, I did,
oh you remember, yeah, oh yeah, I had.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I had the mic pack and the whole thing, and
and I was like, and I so Iron had reached
out to me because he was so excited that he
was dancing with you because you had won before. So
he was like, I've got a chance, you know, like
he was when did that change that? So I showed
up and it was like, and so I had already
I really wasn't watching the show at that point, but
(03:08):
he had talked so much about you. I was like,
oh my god, so he's gonna be in the room
with Cheryl Burke and then we're gonna do the whole thing.
And and then when I met you. You you kind
you kind of seemed like you didn't really know me
very very well, No.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Because I was actually I was a fan girling.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
See, so it was it's critic.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The problem.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's perception though, Like it's crazy how I perceived it
as you had no idea who I was, and you
were like, why is this dude wearing a microphone? Like
we need to rehearse because we you know, we we
run on Monday and it's live and my stuff to do.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And that was before I was media trained.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's a whole it's a it's a whole thing. Like
I had no idea until doing the show how much
goes into it. I really didn't, which is one of
the reasons why I did the show. I was sharn
and I were already dating.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
But you're getting to the gossip way took.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Run you know what we're taking that. I just grabbed
by the horns. You know, I was a big fan
of The Breakfast Club when I was a kid, and so.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Tom on that Wait, sorry, see what I what I'm
telling you is I've only seen show. Oh wait, I
thought there was like a freaking like talk show called
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
The Breakfast Club is a movie.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I haven't seen it, don't know who that is.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I know it's sad, but you should call this show
like generational, you know, upheaval, like the Breakfast Club. See
I remember that picture, the song don't you forget?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh yes, I know that girl. But she wasn't She
was on a lot of other things.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
She was. She was in tons of movies at that
at that point. Yeah, Molly Ringwald was a massive star.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Is she still alive?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
She is still well?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Good on her.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I nowadays, guys like, I love that that is, but
I get it because I asked the same question, like
somebody will be talking about somewhere is that person stole?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
What's his name? Ali? What's his name? Oh? My god,
Leaila Ali's dad? What's his name?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Muhammad Ali? Correct?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Is he still alive? Because Max was like giving.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Me passed away? Okay, you know what, what's sash boy?
This is going to be a rough podcast. I feel
it coming. I feel you're right now it is.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You can see this sweat off your arm bits and
let's get to business. Okay, we're going to just talk
all about everything. All right, Let's just take it back
to when you were little Brian Austin Green was your
name always Brian Austen.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Was Brian Green. There was another Brian Green in SAG.
So when I joined the Union, they were like, you
kind of have to have a middle name, and I
was like, I kind of don't have one, and they
were like, well, you kind of need to come up
with one.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So are they legally allowed to say like that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Basically, yeah, it was. It was honestly to keep to
keep the records and everything separate within the Union of
when checks and stuff were coming in. So we we
started going through family names and uh we we ended
up on the map because Brian Green is but Brian
(06:26):
Green though does not.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
There's something right, It's it's a very. It's it's odd
because it's a very, Like Brian Green is such a
simple name. It was like God to fit a name
in between. Like at one point we my grandfather, my
my mom's dad, his name was Peter, so we were like, oh,
Brian Peter Green. But then it was like, okay, but
(06:49):
my initials are Brian p. Green and that's probably going
to be a problem at some point people will you know,
use that against me. So yeah, we settled on.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Austin, Austin, Austin Powers, Brian Austin, Green Austin, Texas. That's
where everyone's moving nowadays.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Which is which? Which is exactly the part of the
map we pointed to when we were like real Austin. Yeah,
that's how it happened. We literally went through. We were
going through like the entire map. I remember trying to
find city names and state names and territory names that
were all.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
What a great conversation like this, This is like really interesting.
Do people know this is on Wikipedia? I don't think
it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
There's there's not really a lot of stuff that is
correct on Wikipedia. I've gone on Wikipedia and it's like
eye money though, wasn't that I had? I wasn't born
in Bangladesh. I don't understand why that. I was born
in Vanuys, California. Like you guys are way off.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Speaking of Yeah, what was so you were born You're
in La Boy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I am North Hollywood to be exact.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Would you say that like being raised in La kind
of force you into the entertainment industry or did you
come with like was your family already involved in the
entertainment industry? How did this all start?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Like, how, I'll gladly tell you this. I think this. No,
this isn't on Wikipedia either.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It might be. I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's on sex lives and spray tands, that's what it's on.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm old and so like the Internet. To me, it's
just those things where I get on. It's like, how
is you know? How do you send faxes through this thing?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
JL is older than.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You, barely, but she's I knew j Loo when she
was dancing because I was I was doing nine to
two or oh at that point.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
When she was a freaking fly girl. She was talking
about this.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, okay, so let's go back. Let's go back to
the question that you asked. Uh, stay on topic. So
I was going to My dad is a drummer professionally,
so I grew up in music. He was touring when
I was young. He was touring with like Glenn Campbell,
and he played on rhinestone Cowboy and he was doing
all sorts of stuff. So I was going to performing
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art schools when I was young to study music. And
I was going to a performing art school on the
USC campus, and I had to ride a bus there
because it was so far away from North Hollywood. It's
about an hour and fifteen drive on a bus. And
one of the kids that I was on the bus
with had an agent and was doing commercials. And I
(09:25):
only found that out because he always had toys and
stuff on him and I was like, are you rich?
Like how do you always have all the cool stuff?
He was like, oh, no, I do commercials and I haven't.
You know, my parents give me a bit of the
money that I make. I was like, that's awesome, Like
I want to do that. How do I make this happen?
(09:45):
So I went home and I told my parents. I
was like, I want to be an actor. And they
were like, of course you do. Right last week you
wanted to be a unicyclist, you know, and now you
want to be an actor. So in six months, if
it's something that you're still interested in them, then we'll
look into it. Six months later, I still wanted to
I still wanted to try it. I went and met
(10:07):
with his agency, this guy Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Gosh Gosh, like, oh gosh, oh my gosh exactly like
oh gosh, whatever that's like.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh gosh, but gosh, those were overalls that wasn't a store,
And I think was it, Oh, it doesn't matter where.
We're too much time talking about overall companies. So I
met with his agent and and I had to read
a commercial, like a Smucker's commercial thing, and then I
(10:43):
had to read a scene from Little House on the Prairie.
And I was terrible because I had never done it before,
but they signed me.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I ended up terrible.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I I was a cute kid.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's good. I'm glad you're paying yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That That's all I had going for me at that point.
I was like a really smiley, easy going, cute kid.
I was nine.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, were you nervous? Super nervous because I had no
idea what I was doing and I didn't book. I
was only going on commercial auditions mainly, and I didn't
book anything for a year.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh my god, I just want to look at that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Come on now. And then became this, this and.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
This, It became that stallion, Wow, you must have you
broke a lot of hearts, your.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Little heart hair on his head and now look at me.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's crazy. So even prior to like your commercial auditions,
do you have brothers sisters? Do you have I.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Have an older brother and an older sister, and are
they in the business. No nobody, nobody in the family
is nobody has.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Your dad kind of ish.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Music is so different, so different, and it was very
it was very much kind of like my own path.
I was blazing like nobody there was really nobody. There
was nobody around to give me any pointers or do
anything like. There was nobody I could really watch and
learn from. I ended up doing a show though. When
I was ten and a half, I started doing knots Landing.
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It was called it was like a nighttime soap, and
I did that for about four and a half years,
and it was great because my character was they would
just kind of throw me into scenes. Every once in
a while, I'd like walk through the background and it's like, oh, Abby,
your son is here. You know, I'd like have a
puppy on a leasure, I'd be getting yogurt out of
the fridge. But I'd be able to watch these people
like on set acting. I was this young kid, but
(12:37):
I was able to watch what it was like. And
I would sneak on set when they would be doing
like love scenes and things like that, and I'd like,
I'd like hide behind plants and stuff and just watch
and see how it all went down. I got caught
a few times.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh my, oh so grave.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This like eleven year old kid hiding behind like a
palm tree.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Pot before like standards and practices were invented, or like.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I this was like just after like Wizard of Oz
like this was. This was very early on. I've been
acting for a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I've never even seen a Wizard of Oz. Don't you
judge me? I am it's only pretty woman. I am
judging woman and Beverly Hills model to it though.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well I'm judging you for that as well.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well, that wasn't my fault. That was my Filipino nanny
who we've talked about prior to this interview, and how
she was learning English and then I learned how to
talk like a prostitute at a very young age. But
this interview is.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It is a skill that I'm sure you have.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Used definite forst.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Of your life. Yeah, correct point.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So did you come from a divorced family or your
parents are still together?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Parents are still together and they're still living in the
same house I grew up in in Valley Village. Wow,
So yeah, when I go when I go visit them,
like I see the bedroom that I grew up in,
which was funny. So my dad, my dad, like, we
had a it was a very like middle class lifestyle.
We weren't hurting for money, but we weren't like doing
(14:08):
incredibly well. But I remember at one point I wanted
a better bedroom. I wanted like it was kind of
this country style the house. And I was like, I'm
a kid, like, I don't want to be in a
country bedroom. I want something like modern and cool. And
so my dad made me pay for the entire dad thing, carpeting, paint, furniture,
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the whole thing. And now I go back and it's
back to being a country bedroom and I walk in
it's like, oh my god, I can't believe that I
lived in this little.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Did it bring up like a lot of memories, like
good memories?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It did? Yeah, it was. I mean like I remember
where my bed was, and I remember what part of
the ceiling I would look at, and where my TV
was and where my desk was. Like you have interesting Yeah,
you have the memory of like, oh, I remember a.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Long term memory.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I remember laying in this room and I lived in
this room for years, so yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, So do you think that like coming from a
family that has never really gone through so much trauma,
right as a family, I would assume, correct me if I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wrong right now?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Did that help with I guess being in the entertainment
industry because I have a like for me, I've observed
and I can also speak from my own experience that,
like a lot of entertainers right in general, we entertain,
of course because we love it and we love the art,
but we're also looking for frustrations and validation. Do you
(15:41):
find that because you had that at home that for
you it was purely for the art.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No, No, I think for me there was a validation
in it. Also. I my family was I had a
really sort of healthy, normal childhood, but my family, I
when I was young, I never learned the skills of
(16:12):
being able to like sit around at dinner table and
have healthy debate and have differences of opinion and that
being okay, It was very it was very sort of this,
you know, from my parents. God bless them and they busted.
They were great parents morally, they they did such a
(16:32):
good job of parenting. But it was very We've learned
from our experiences in life and this is the best
way to do it, so they didn't. They didn't to
fail to which you learn. I've always say said to
people that I've learned way more in life from my
failures than i have from my successes. Absolutely, my successes
(16:55):
have just they've they've just come. You just kind of
hang on and you go, oh great, I'm just going
to keep doing what I'm doing. When you fail, it's
like then you you know, you have to look back
at things and you make little tweaks and you figure
out what didn't work, and you try and fix it,
and you stumble a little bit, and it makes you
who you are. It creates, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Because like imagine if you just had a life full
of success, Like what the like, how boring would that be?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I think that's a big problem though for kids that
are raised in families with money where it's just sort.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Of given, correct, But it's also a horrible life for
that person.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's a horrible life.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Like they're actually not necessarily happy, right because money is
not happiness. Money doesn't buy love. Found out the hard
way with that one. But like literally it was like
it's if there's a fine line, right of Like also,
most people find their purpose is found outside themselves. Right.
So if that's the case and then you come from money,
(17:55):
why even live right, right? Because what are you what
are you living for?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'm just here to spend some of this money.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And you get everything you want.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You want.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Daddy bought me a yacht, Daddy bought me this. But
at the end of the day, are you happy, like
do that by your happiness? You're still fucking miserable, right, totally.
So I think that's amazing. I mean, that's admirable that
your parents did that. Now, I think it's maybe our
general I would say, like we're the same I'm thirty nine,
I'm fifty. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's just a bumber.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's not the same generation.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yes, it's like ish right, so old ish.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Did you ever have a pager?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Absolutely? I also text on my did you do that?
A seventeen? Was an end? Just visualize it? One seven?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, and oh I I still to this day remember like,
of course, I Boob's text was one of my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It was like zero zero eight five. I can see
now why you're such a good solid man. And I'm
being serious way because it's very rare, like do I ever?
(19:03):
I guess nowadays too it's so common to divorce, right,
it's so commic. Most of I would say most of
society today, their parents have either divorced or something happened. Right,
But there is a sense of I think grounding, like
whenever I'm like with you, like your energy definitely, like
(19:23):
it feels that you're super grounded at all costs, Like
it doesn't matter, nothing really shakes you. And that's a
good thing. That's awesome. And I think that's really hard
to find, especially in the entertainment industry, because like this
is I think very I think it's common that, like
I think our art really reflects of who we are
as people and the way we were raised. And I
think it's beautiful regardless. Right, I'm not judging it at all,
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but there is a sense of calmness. There's always been
the I mean maybe like five times we've lug out,
but like still, obviously Sharna has seen this amazing man, right,
and I'm so happy for her. Like Sharna, I've known
Sharna since she started dancing with the Stars here, but
I just remember, like you know, there were moments in
her life that she just wasn't happy, and I think
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she did the work to really find it within herself.
But she also and with that, you know, you are
what you put out there, and she found you and
you found each other.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We were both though I had come out of my marriage,
so you know, I had been with Megan for fifteen years.
We were married for ten, had three kids.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I had no idea you guys were together that long?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Wow she was she's how old was she?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
She is now thirty?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So you guys got together when she was like eighteen?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Who? Yeah? We So Shanna and I we really met
at a point where she had been really working on
herself hard for she'd been single for almost five years
at that point. I had been single for two and
just really aggressively in therapy I had come out of
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I had this neurological stuff that had hit me before
then that I had come out of and in coming
out of that. Therapy was a big part of it,
because I I spent four and a half years recovering
from stroke like symptoms without ever having had a stroke.
But I couldn't speak.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I couldn't talk about this really quick because you had
vert were you diagnosed with having vertigo?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Or vertigo was one stage of it? It was I
had altered of colitis, and then I had vertigo and
I was bedridden for like three months, but both things
were undiagnosable. Nobody could figure out all the special neurologists. Yeah,
I had a neurologist then, So these neurological things started
happening after the vertigo, and that was It was four
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and a half years of my life. I got to
the point where I shuffled like I was a ninety
year old man. I couldn't speak, I couldn't read, I
couldn't write, I couldn't die.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And this was because of an accident that you and
Megan had gotten. No, this was nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It was dietary. Stop it completely dietary.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
The press has it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wrong, completely wrong. Well, it's a it's a very it's
a confusing story. So it ends up. I again, it
was all undiagnosed by Western medicine. So I ended up
having to finally find a doctor that is much more
into like kinesiology and Eastern medicine. And he was like, oh,
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you have such internal inflammation from gluten and things you
eat your whole life, stress that that you couldn't tell
where a problem because they're internal. It was internal inflammation,
so there was no way of seeing from the outside.
He was like, I'm sure you felt fine, and you did,
and I did. I was active my whole life. I
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worked out, I did like I was very I was
that guy.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And you got a couple of opinions.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Oh, I had I had a doctor at Cedars, that is,
he's one of the top neurologists in the country, right,
and he would share everything that was going on with
me with his colleagues and try and figure out what
was going on. I'd done over one hundred and ninety
blood tests, I had two MRIs and it got to
the point where he was like, I don't know what
(23:26):
to do. I don't know what's going on with you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Good paralyzed, Like you couldn't work, you couldn't get out
of bed.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I couldn't. I see such brain fog that I reintroduced
my my best friend of like twenty five plus years,
to my sister who he had also known for twenty
five plus years, because they were both in the same room.
And I was like, oh, Scott, you've met my sister
Lauralai before, right, And he was looking at me.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Like you just genuinely just did not remember.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Genuinely, Like I it just to me that was like
what you do when people are in a room. You
make sure that everybody knows every.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Right out of respect. Yes, yes, and and.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I just had no concept of that that was strange
at all.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So did that freak you out?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh? Absolutely, because I had no idea what caused it.
I had no idea if I could relapse again, I
had no It's when you're when you're kind of stumbling through, uh,
recovering from something, but thinking, like, God, what put me
here in the first place. Nobody's been able to tell me.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Have you seen the light at the end of the tunnel? Like,
have you through maybe changing your mentality? Like I believe
that with the stresses of life, that that does in
a way, though I know people would disagree with me,
but I believe that your mental health is not intact,
that huge completely paralyze you to the point where you
know certain diseases happen. And like, I know that it's controversial,
(24:48):
but like I believe it one hundred percent. Brain is lazy, right,
Like if you stop using, if you stop learning, you know,
if you stop staying curious, like that's your brain will
turn into mush.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's a much Yes, you're it's you know, you go
to the gym and you work out, you need to
be doing the same things for your brain.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Which you can't even go to the gym and workout
if your brain's not intact.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It it controls everything literally, like I couldn't. Like I
was in recovering, I would read Doctor Seuss books to
my kids because they were so complex verbally to read.
Wo So it was like gymnastics for my brain and
socks and those books were oh my god. I could
(25:30):
barely get through those.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's crazy. So you really don't still have like one
hundred percent definitive.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
No, not one hundred percent definitive. But I have been
I fully recovered from it. I've been one hundred percent
since then. Yeah, one hundred percent. Though has been tough
because coming out of it, I was like mid forties.
So it's like, Okay, how much is age related like
memory issues and things like that, and how much is
(25:58):
possible left over from what you don't I don't know
if I'll ever completely know the answer to that, and
I don't know if I'm supposed to, you.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Know, And that's okay. It's like surrender and the body
keeps score Like your body. Our bodies are so smart,
Like even if it's trauma that maybe I'm not saying
in your case, I'm just saying in general, like when
people don't talk about the traumas, it will your body
remembers and so it'll somehow detox itself right from that
whatever is trying to heal from. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
One of the reasons why I went into therapy coming
out of that was I had to spend so much
time listening, which I'd never really done in life like
I had i in growing up. I sort of because
of the skills that I had not really learned as
a child, I didn't have the ability to have healthy
(26:45):
debates in those things like I would. As soon as
somebody there were conflicting opinions or thoughts on things, I
could feel my blood boiling, like I could I could
feel myself getting defensive, and I felt like, Oh, somebody's
challenging me because I don't feel the same way, and
so they're you know, they're thinking something's wrong with me
for feeling this way. I didn't. I didn't understand the
(27:05):
concept of, oh, you can have two different opinions and
they're just opinions, like it's there's no there doesn't have
to be judgment within that. So I started into aggressive
therapy and realize like, oh I can stress played such
a huge part on what it is that I went through,
huge part.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
And society celebrates stress here in America at least, because
if you go to Europe, it's different. Right, people think
you're crazy for working this much, but here you're a hustler,
which is a good thing. And then you don't have
a vacation. If you go on vacation, you're lazy. Yeah,
you're a lazy person. But it's just so bad. I mean,
I could talk of I know this show is about
Dancing with the Stars and we will get there, don't
(27:47):
you worry, And we're going to get there right now.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
But glorious, Yeah, let me go get my glitter shirt
and will change.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I mean, you could be shirtless because that's what we
do on Dancing with the Stars. Just where your pasties, Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I made sure like that was a very specific rule
for me when I was going and I was like,
I don't want to wear sparkly, glittery.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Why why would you do that to yourself? This is
why me and your co star didn't get a log
at times because it's like you better ride ride with
the ocean, you guys, the waves of the ocean. We
wear glitter.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Guys were battling over who was wearing the most glitter,
and that I think that was.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
What were you. Yes, we were because he loved his
glitter at the end of it, and you didn't want
to shimmy either.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You guys were doing photo shoots and it was like, wait,
he's shining than I am, and so that created and
then we.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Got Super Bowl ratings. That's just the difference. That's all.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Drop the mic if I could mic drop.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Mic drop. So we are going to discuss your experience
on Dancing with the Stars. Would you have done it?
If you and Sharina were not you would have never
had they asked you.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They had asked me for like fifteen years, and it
was just herd pass because I've never wanted to be
a dancer. I have no draw to being a dancer
like I was. I've I've been consistently working and you
were like, uh, I know when he I remember when
(29:18):
he texted me he was so excited when he was
going to do the show, like he was genuinely excited
about it. Actually yeah. And I was like, oh, good,
you know, good for you. That's that's amazing. But it
was just.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Nothing that But then something and something must have.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Dating and it was COVID and uh, it just kind
of felt like the stars aligned for it. Dina reached
out and she was.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like, he reached out. I was wondering if Sharna tried
to convince you no.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So Sean and I had talked before that jokingly and
we were like, yeah, we'll never do something like like
we'll never do the show together and do that kind
of stuff. That's what she Oh yeah, oh. We were
like in cahoots, are got it. So then when Dina
reached out and she was like, hey, so I'm reaching out,
you know, see if you guys want to be partners
(30:09):
and dance on the show, and uh, it was a different.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Situation had At first.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
It wasn't a hard no no. It was when the
offer came in, it was like I, Sean and I
really sat and talked about it. We were like, this
is a big it's a big thing. Yes, it's we're
going to be putting our relationship in front of the
cameras for and.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You want to see another side of Sharna that you
may not have wanted to see.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It's true, I was going to see regardless that was
but for me that was the thing. It was like,
I want to see what your life because I had
gone to dance things with her before then, like she
did she did one thing at like Universal Florida and
then Disney Florida. It was a convention, and there's a
part of me that was like, uh, Like when she
(31:00):
would dance out and she'd be like, what do you
you know? What'd you think? I'd be like, amazing, obviously,
like what you know? That's why are you even asking
me what I think? Not realizing how much really has
gone into it within her life.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, that's so beautiful that you care and that you
want to and like actually put yourself in a vulnerable
situation like dancing with the stars, because it's not easy.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I mean, honestly, I don't know exactly how it feels.
But you're basically doing something you've never done before. You're
moving your body like you've never moved before. And not
only is that happening, but you're being filmed and being
yelled at by your girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I've yeah, so that was yeah. So that was a
weird dynamic to figure out, like how I'm sure you know,
because for her, she was like she obviously we're dancing together,
so she's she's in charge and doing all that, but
at the same time we're together, and it's like, you know,
how important is doing incredibly well in this compared to
(32:01):
our relationship doing incredibly well?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So is competitive.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
She's super competitive and she's super good at what it
is she does. So it was a learning experience for her.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
See I turned into a different person. It's almost like
I have split personalities, right, So it's like here is
Cheryl Burke so sweet, Oh, it's like girl next door,
not even but like anyway, but you know what I mean,
like approachable. And then there's like Cheryl Burke the task master,
the girl who had the dumb and dumber haircut, who
is just so.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Not to call you out, but iron had like both
of his had to have surgery on his.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Come on, that's his problem. Was just break danced.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Him into the ground to wear his dancing shoes during
rehearsal and everything.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
He is posted weird, not dancing shoes. This is danyl
get down, get on all fours and.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Uh, I've heard legend within the dance world as far
as being a task master.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, I know, but that you can blame ABC Disney
for that because they kind of labeled me like that.
So I've just continued. I blame them just kidding. I
take full account of it because.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Like I was going to stop you right there.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
This is the way I was trained. It's called tough love.
And I'm not one to give great like I'm not like,
my love language isn't words of affirmation?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
What is your love language?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's uh, do what as I say? Yeah, yeah, no,
it really is languages. I not like no, No, it's
kind of like it was like it's like, you know,
just show that you care by doing what you say
you're going to do, period and of discussion whatever that is.
That's actually that's acts of service. But like you interpreted,
(33:53):
your perception of that is like do what I say,
go down, give me ten push ups, and like shut
up for me.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's like not everybody's perception of service.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, it's like help around the house. You lazy like that,
that's what lack of service is. I think anyway, it's
not about me, This is about you.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
What. It's funny how those those rules have shifted, because
let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It's definitely not about how long do you got Let's
learn about God. No, that's not I'm so tired of
talking about just me. Okay, But I really want to
know how did you guys overcome the battle of being
first of all, your relationship was completely out anyway. The
point is is that you kind of know your role
(34:41):
right like in a way?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, And did.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
They ask or did they say to you guys like
we're going to do We're going to talk about like
your health issues or we're going to do this or
did were they straight up like, honestly.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
We did. We did talk about that stuff. I mean
we we had it very clearly carved out contractually that
like we weren't going to go there on some things
like our our relationship was really important to us and
so we would give some but we had a whole
bunch to give but that. But honestly, at the end
(35:17):
of the day, I don't know if the rest of
it was their focus. I mean, they really I feel
like they knew what they had. They had something that
was completely unique to what what the show is. They had.
They had two people that were actually together. Yeah, so
they were like, we're going to base all of their
(35:39):
stuff off of that.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And after how long did you last till we did
four dances? Four so you did it one month plus rehearsals.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
So it was like because we did the Disney thing,
remember it was two it was two dances, one after
the yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, so we did we did the Villains Night and
then the Hero's Night. Oh my gosh, we got eliminated
after Villain's Night and it was a double elimination.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yes, I remember now.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You were dressed if we did Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And how did you how are you eliminated as a pirate?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Were you a pirate or like, oh, I was in
full prosthetics. It was a whole like I was on stage.
I'd like it's we spent like an hour doing because
I was Bibosa, So it was like I had scars
and like full and it took like an hour and
a half to get it all off afterwards.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Oh my god. When Snookie was on Dancing with the Stars,
she also got eliminated during a time like that, like
a theme night. She was crying because she was so
sad she got eliminated. She was like a ghost, and
her white makeup just was slowly dripping off her cute
little face. It was the saddest thing in the world.
Like I just wanted to like, I was like, please,
I was.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
A meme for sure, right, for sure? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
But did you have an overall great experience on Dancing
with the Stars or was it something that you'd never
do again.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I wouldn't say that it's something I would never do again.
It was. It was an interesting experience. It was. It
wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible, Like it was right
in the It was a learning experience.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
What did you learn? For me?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I learned the importance of keeping certain priorities my priority
no matter what is going.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
On, like boundaries.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, like, okay, this is relationship first in all of this.
So yeah, you guys can say whatever you want and
judging you can you know, run wild with whatever you want.
For me, it was just a reminder of like, keep
keep my eye on the ball, like.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And your morals, yeah, stay focused, like no, you know,
keep in mind what is really important to you.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And at the end of the day, I was like,
I judge, his scores are not important to me compared
to having a healthy relationship. So I can stand here
and they can go, oh yeah, your arm, and it's like, okay,
all right, thank you. Literally, I'm never gonna I'm not
going to dance again. I'm going to dance. I'll dance
with Sharna at home.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Right for your wedding congratulations?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Oh yes, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
But wait, why do you think you got eliminated? Do
you think you got eliminated because purely off the dancing
or do you think you there's a conspiracy theory?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I have theories. I have my my my thoughts about it,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah. But was quoted on your podcast saying that she
believes that she when she text right, So she texts
one of the exacts and she goes, I, this is
not what we agreed to doing. Like, I don't like
the way we were coming across. Just if this is
what we're going to continue to do, just let us
go eliminate us right now. Yeah, So we can't ask
to be eliminated like because it doesn't happen like it is,
(38:48):
Like there is rules, standards and practices do count votes? Right,
it's fifty to fifty, right, fifty percent judges fifty percent votes?
Is that?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But didn't that change though? After Bobby Bones isn't aren't judges?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
So the judges get to choose who goes home? Is
that what happened with you in your case?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
They do no, because it was a double elimination. But
I think what so my theory is, or my thought
on it all is we were they they heavily focused
on the relationship within the routines and the stuff we
were doing, but then we were judged poorly because of
(39:27):
those choices that were made on the production side. So
we were kind of just ponds in the middle. And
it was like, I you know, I remember when when
we were standing up in front of the judges after
doing Disney uh, Disney Night, and we had danced to
was It No Snow White? And we had the kiss
(39:50):
in the beginning, and it was this whole romantic thing. Yeah,
and then we were judged of like, I think you
guys are leaning too heavily. You know, it's too romantic.
You're leaning too heavily on the relationship the judges, and
we were like and I remember saying specifically. I was like,
but you've seen the movie, right, Like it's like that's
the whole These are Disney romantic movies. Like what you know,
(40:12):
what did you I don't understand what you expected us
to do. I think at the end of the day,
everybody plays their roles, right, you know people, I think
viewers don't realize that it's a show at the end
of the day. So everybody's playing their characters. You've got
these people that are credible dancers and judges within it,
(40:35):
but they're not it's there. They're not judging purely out
of dancing. They've got there's a show to be made,
so they're trying to create drama with their you know,
there are other things going on there.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
So wait for the listeners who don't are not familiar
with TV. What do you mean that it's a show?
Like exactly what you said was the drama?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Like you have the story television show and it's been
on for how many seasons now thirty two seasons. You're
not on for thirty two seasons with just people dancing.
It's got to be like reality shows. They're they're not
really real, like they they plan out.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
What these things are going to be and they and
they think, like, hey, what are people what are viewers
going to want to see? What's going to be an
interesting cat fight? Who should we put together that that
they'll create conflict together?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Look at vandr pump Roles Like that's a perfect example, right.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Aged Yeah, right, it's it's it's created and they do
an amazing job at it. Yeah, so it's not I
can't knock them for that. But it's like you have
to keep in mind that is what it is. It's
a television show you're watching.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Do you disagree with Adrian Peterson's being cast on Dancing
with the Stars? Like, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I definitely think it's questionable, But like.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
You know, we've had controversial characters on Dancing with the Stars.
I think that is also the fact that this is
a TV show. You know. Obviously, Sharna commented and I
understand and I totally get it what she's saying. I
also come from an abused you know, childhood. But like, also,
you're under contract, Like you can't just turn around and
walk out.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Right, Yeah, no you can't. It's a tough. It's a
sticky situation for people because you guys, as the pros.
Don't know who you're going to be paired with until
you walk into that room and you shoot. Then I
have to google you exactly until you shoot the uh
the the day of like everybody meeting meeting their partners.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
And we've already signed our contracts by then.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Oh yeah, you're you're in. You're already in. Yeah, wardrobe
is ready to go. You're you're psyched up for the season,
and you're psyched up for I'm going to be spending
seven days a week with this person.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I've never arranged marriage.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I've never in my life done a job that is
a seven day a week job, like dancing What the
Stars was? They they down they downplay the whole thing.
They're like totally like a couple of hours a day
of not even there. Oh it's oh, it's it'll be
the easiest thing. And then all of a sudden, you're
there and you're rehearsing, and you're like, I need another
(43:05):
like six hours a day to be ready for Monday
because my brain doesn't remember choreography. That's like, I'm not
I'm not from that world, Like I don't that's not
what I do. And then you start you're like I
don't want to look like a dummy on Monday, So
then you're just and you're sweating, and the tension that
it creates.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Oh man, but what a great formula. Huh, it's a
great Ever made this up? Kudos, it's genius. Kudos to
you from manipulating. I'm just kidding. No, But like I
first of all you and Sharna, though, that is the
most important, and I'm so I mean, like, honestly, I
couldn't be happier for Shara the last five years of
(43:48):
Sharna's like dancing with the starter's career. Let's say, don't
you find how it's all just honestly meant to be
in a weird way when act comes, Like, yes, you
could see both sides, right, But I don't think Maybe
I don't know, I'm not psychic. But like I'm just saying,
maybe if things were different, if she did go back,
maybe things wouldn't unfold the way it's been unfolding, which
(44:09):
has been a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
We are Sean and I talk about it all the time.
We're big believers in the universe puts things in front
of you and has a plan for you, and you
you either fight it or you sit back and you go, Okay,
I you you know, the plan is bigger than what
I what I can think of. I I mean, funny
(44:36):
plan wise, I was the season before me that Sharna
had done Dancing with Jesse. They had reached out to
me for If I had done that season, I most
likely would have been partnered with Sharna. Sharna has like
a has always had a very strict don't date my
partners thing. Oh really, Oh she's like, she's like, that's
(45:01):
why she's such a question. But I don't think I
I don't. I honestly don't know if it was just
for figure eight you have done it at all. That's interesting.
I didn't know that about Yeah. So there were all
these things. There were all these different times where we
could have met. We have the same business manager and
(45:22):
so we could have met, so we could have met
in all these different ways, and we never did. But
it wasn't the right time, Like if we honestly, if
we had met the year before on Dancing with the Stars,
I wasn't in a place where I was when we met.
She wasn't in a place where she was when we met.
It took us meeting at that moment being in that
(45:45):
place for this relationship to work the way that it has.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Brian, thank you so much. When are you getting married?
Where are you getting married? And where's my advice?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
I don't like your questions. I think I am. Yeah,
I think your podcast has taking a turn for the
worst at this point.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Just lie. I think it's called sex and lies and
spray hands.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
I think you're asking very inappropriate questions.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Wait, I have to do fire rapid I'm going.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
To see if there's hr.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Somewhere then can reach out to that closet, right, Okay,
I'm busy, right now, really quick, We're going to do this.
This is rapid fire. And that was part of the
rapid fire, was the marriage questions. But okay, don't you
don't have to answer whatever you're not comfortable with. We're
going to name one member of the cast of Beverly
Hills nine o two and oh my fave, most popular,
most popular, Luke, most insecure, Oh jeez, I can't.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I don't want to say. Okay, fine, fair enough, I'm
going to on that one Iron.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Most confident, uh Shannon, most flirty, probably man, oh I
heard that. Don't worry me. Don't worry. Hey, this is
your past? Most friendly? I was a kid, that's right?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah? Most what friendly? Most friendly? Luke?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh, this is god. We would have been perfect together.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
What could have been?
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Most likely to stumble drunk out of a bar? That's fun, Toy,
I love that. Most serious?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Most serious.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Jason, No, Jenny, Most fun, probably Jason. Who would you
want to be stuck on a desserted island with and
a desert like.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
A desert island, not like a desert.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Not full of like ice cream, not like you know,
a desert island, Luke, Most intimidating, three more, nobody cool.
Who do you talk to the most to this day?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Iron always?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Who's always late? Who was always late? Set?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Shannon?
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Always on time?
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I was pretty on time?
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Okay, all righty on time? Okay, I get it. Thank you?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Language.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Wait, please tell my listeners about your podcast and where
people can find it and what's next.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, so, uh my my new podcast is called Oldish.
It's with Sharanna and uh and Randy Spelling and it's
on iHeart here or anywhere that you listen to.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Podcasts, so many options. Thank you, Thank you so.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Much for having me talk to you. We've run into
each other so many times, but we've never done this.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Thank you. Make sure you guys follow us at sex
Lies and spray tands on our Instagram handle and make
sure your comment. Let me know who you want me
to interview. What do you all think? Let me know
This is Sex Lies and Spray Tands with Me Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome to Sex Lies
and Spray Tans.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I have a.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Very special and amazing guest. But before I even give
it away, I just give it. It's a person. It
is a person. I'm so now you just gave it away.
Everyone knows that voice.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Bag.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm going to call you bag.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Do people call you bag? Oh my god, Okay, You're
going to be very I hope flattered by what I'm
about to say. I was only allowed to watch one
hour of TV a week because I come from the
original Dance mom. It was Wednesday nights at eight pm,
Beverly Hills, nine O two one. Oh, You're the only
celebrity on Dancing with the Stars that I've never had
(00:50):
to google work like that is No, you don't understand.
I've googled every single Oh and Iron Zering, obviously that's amazing.
Like oh and Jenny Garth, Yes, who else.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
The show you I have?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I stood on your face every single freaking I feel
about like, I don't know how it is gonna feel
about it either, But like I also had trading cards
do you.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Remember, of course. So we just did nineties Con over
the weekend and signed a bunch of those training cards,
and I made fun of fellow cast members for some
of the pictures that were on those training cards.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You guys were really you guys were so cool. It
was almost like wow, I was so like, I want
to be like this person. I was like really into Shannon.
I don't know that they're actual characters, but I had
the biggest crush on Luke Perry at your rest of
pase yes, yes, like so hot, like too hot to handle.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You know though, coming from Dancing with the Stars, it's
such a machine when you're in it, Like it seems
really cool to anybody on the outside looking at it,
but it's like, I know, you're doing the photo shoots,
you're doing the spray hands, you're doing the things, you're
showing up plus stuff. Yeah, Like I I you know,
I look at those trading cards and I remember when
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we did the shoots, like I remember what was happening
that day and who was arguing over wearing what, and
it's I remember all of those things.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, we are gonna because this is actually something I'm
really into, because you know, Honestly, I'm a freaking super
fan when I first met you. Hey, guys, welcome to
Sex Lives and spray Tans. My guest Brian Austin Greed Welcome.
What an intro like. I am just like a fan
girling over here, and I don't know what to do
with myself. But I will say to you that when
(02:36):
I danced with Ian zero season four, I based my
life off seasons on Dancing with the Stars, because that's
how much it's consumed my life. You walked in, I did,
oh you remember, yeah, oh yeah, I had.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I had the mic pack and the whole thing, and
and I was like, and I so Iron had reached
out to me because he was so excited that he
was dancing with you because you had won before. So
he was like, I've got a chance, you know, like
he was when did that change that? So I showed
up and it was like, and so I had already
I really wasn't watching the show at that point, but
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he had talked so much about you. I was like,
oh my god, so he's gonna be in the room
with Cheryl Burke and then we're gonna do the whole thing.
And and then when I met you. You you kind
you kind of seemed like you didn't really know me
very very well, No.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Because I was actually I was a fan girling.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
See, so it was it's critic.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The problem.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's perception though, Like it's crazy how I perceived it
as you had no idea who I was, and you
were like, why is this dude wearing a microphone? Like
we need to rehearse because we you know, we we
run on Monday and it's live and my stuff to do.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And that was before I was media trained.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's a whole it's a it's a whole thing. Like
I had no idea until doing the show how much
goes into it. I really didn't, which is one of
the reasons why I did the show. I was sharn
and I were already dating.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
But you're getting to the gossip way took.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Run you know what we're taking that. I just grabbed
by the horns. You know, I was a big fan
of The Breakfast Club when I was a kid, and so.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Tom on that Wait, sorry, see what I what I'm
telling you is I've only seen show. Oh wait, I
thought there was like a freaking like talk show called
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
The Breakfast Club is a movie.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I haven't seen it, don't know who that is.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I know it's sad, but you should call this show
like generational, you know, upheaval, like the Breakfast Club. See
I remember that picture, the song don't you forget?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh yes, I know that girl. But she wasn't She
was on a lot of other things.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
She was. She was in tons of movies at that
at that point. Yeah, Molly Ringwald was a massive star.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Is she still alive?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
She is still well?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Good on her.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I nowadays, guys like, I love that that is, but
I get it because I asked the same question, like
somebody will be talking about somewhere is that person stole?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
What's his name? Ali? What's his name? Oh? My god,
Leaila Ali's dad? What's his name?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Muhammad Ali? Correct?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Is he still alive? Because Max was like giving.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Me passed away? Okay, you know what, what's sash boy?
This is going to be a rough podcast. I feel
it coming. I feel you're right now it is.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You can see this sweat off your arm bits and
let's get to business. Okay, we're going to just talk
all about everything. All right, Let's just take it back
to when you were little Brian Austin Green was your
name always Brian Austen.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Was Brian Green. There was another Brian Green in SAG.
So when I joined the Union, they were like, you
kind of have to have a middle name, and I
was like, I kind of don't have one, and they
were like, well, you kind of need to come up
with one.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So are they legally allowed to say like that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Basically, yeah, it was. It was honestly to keep to
keep the records and everything separate within the Union of
when checks and stuff were coming in. So we we
started going through family names and uh we we ended
up on the map because Brian Green is but Brian
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Green though does not.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
There's something right, It's it's a very. It's it's odd
because it's a very, Like Brian Green is such a
simple name. It was like God to fit a name
in between. Like at one point we my grandfather, my
my mom's dad, his name was Peter, so we were like, oh,
Brian Peter Green. But then it was like, okay, but
(06:49):
my initials are Brian p. Green and that's probably going
to be a problem at some point people will you know,
use that against me. So yeah, we settled on.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Austin, Austin, Austin Powers, Brian Austin, Green Austin, Texas. That's
where everyone's moving nowadays.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Which is which? Which is exactly the part of the
map we pointed to when we were like real Austin. Yeah,
that's how it happened. We literally went through. We were
going through like the entire map. I remember trying to
find city names and state names and territory names that
were all.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
What a great conversation like this, This is like really interesting.
Do people know this is on Wikipedia? I don't think
it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
There's there's not really a lot of stuff that is
correct on Wikipedia. I've gone on Wikipedia and it's like
eye money though, wasn't that I had? I wasn't born
in Bangladesh. I don't understand why that. I was born
in Vanuys, California. Like you guys are way off.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Speaking of Yeah, what was so you were born You're
in La Boy, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I am North Hollywood to be exact.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Would you say that like being raised in La kind
of force you into the entertainment industry or did you
come with like was your family already involved in the
entertainment industry? How did this all start?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Like, how, I'll gladly tell you this. I think this. No,
this isn't on Wikipedia either.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It might be. I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's on sex lives and spray tands, that's what it's on.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm old and so like the Internet. To me, it's
just those things where I get on. It's like, how
is you know? How do you send faxes through this thing?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
JL is older than.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You, barely, but she's I knew j Loo when she
was dancing because I was I was doing nine to
two or oh at that point.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
When she was a freaking fly girl. She was talking
about this.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, okay, so let's go back. Let's go back to
the question that you asked. Uh, stay on topic. So
I was going to My dad is a drummer professionally,
so I grew up in music. He was touring when
I was young. He was touring with like Glenn Campbell,
and he played on rhinestone Cowboy and he was doing
all sorts of stuff. So I was going to performing
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art schools when I was young to study music. And
I was going to a performing art school on the
USC campus, and I had to ride a bus there
because it was so far away from North Hollywood. It's
about an hour and fifteen drive on a bus. And
one of the kids that I was on the bus
with had an agent and was doing commercials. And I
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only found that out because he always had toys and
stuff on him and I was like, are you rich?
Like how do you always have all the cool stuff?
He was like, oh, no, I do commercials and I haven't.
You know, my parents give me a bit of the
money that I make. I was like, that's awesome, Like
I want to do that. How do I make this happen?
(09:45):
So I went home and I told my parents. I
was like, I want to be an actor. And they
were like, of course you do. Right last week you
wanted to be a unicyclist, you know, and now you
want to be an actor. So in six months, if
it's something that you're still interested in them, then we'll
look into it. Six months later, I still wanted to
I still wanted to try it. I went and met
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with his agency, this guy Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Gosh Gosh, like, oh gosh, oh my gosh exactly like
oh gosh, whatever that's like.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh gosh, but gosh, those were overalls that wasn't a store,
And I think was it, Oh, it doesn't matter where.
We're too much time talking about overall companies. So I
met with his agent and and I had to read
a commercial, like a Smucker's commercial thing, and then I
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had to read a scene from Little House on the Prairie.
And I was terrible because I had never done it before,
but they signed me.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I ended up terrible.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I I was a cute kid.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's good. I'm glad you're paying yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That That's all I had going for me at that point.
I was like a really smiley, easy going, cute kid.
I was nine.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, were you nervous? Super nervous because I had no
idea what I was doing and I didn't book. I
was only going on commercial auditions mainly, and I didn't
book anything for a year.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh my god, I just want to look at that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Come on now. And then became this, this and.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
This, It became that stallion, Wow, you must have you
broke a lot of hearts, your.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Little heart hair on his head and now look at me.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That's crazy. So even prior to like your commercial auditions,
do you have brothers sisters? Do you have I.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Have an older brother and an older sister, and are
they in the business. No nobody, nobody in the family
is nobody has.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Your dad kind of ish.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Music is so different, so different, and it was very
it was very much kind of like my own path.
I was blazing like nobody there was really nobody. There
was nobody around to give me any pointers or do
anything like. There was nobody I could really watch and
learn from. I ended up doing a show though. When
I was ten and a half, I started doing knots Landing.
(12:13):
It was called it was like a nighttime soap, and
I did that for about four and a half years,
and it was great because my character was they would
just kind of throw me into scenes. Every once in
a while, I'd like walk through the background and it's like, oh, Abby,
your son is here. You know, I'd like have a
puppy on a leasure, I'd be getting yogurt out of
the fridge. But I'd be able to watch these people
like on set acting. I was this young kid, but
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I was able to watch what it was like. And
I would sneak on set when they would be doing
like love scenes and things like that, and I'd like,
I'd like hide behind plants and stuff and just watch
and see how it all went down. I got caught
a few times.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh my, oh so grave.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This like eleven year old kid hiding behind like a
palm tree.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Pot before like standards and practices were invented, or like.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I this was like just after like Wizard of Oz
like this was. This was very early on. I've been
acting for a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I've never even seen a Wizard of Oz. Don't you
judge me? I am it's only pretty woman. I am
judging woman and Beverly Hills model to it though.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well I'm judging you for that as well.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well, that wasn't my fault. That was my Filipino nanny
who we've talked about prior to this interview, and how
she was learning English and then I learned how to
talk like a prostitute at a very young age. But
this interview is.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It is a skill that I'm sure you have.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Used definite forst.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Of your life. Yeah, correct point.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So did you come from a divorced family or your
parents are still together?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Parents are still together and they're still living in the
same house I grew up in in Valley Village. Wow,
So yeah, when I go when I go visit them,
like I see the bedroom that I grew up in,
which was funny. So my dad, my dad, like, we
had a it was a very like middle class lifestyle.
We weren't hurting for money, but we weren't like doing
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incredibly well. But I remember at one point I wanted
a better bedroom. I wanted like it was kind of
this country style the house. And I was like, I'm
a kid, like, I don't want to be in a
country bedroom. I want something like modern and cool. And
so my dad made me pay for the entire dad thing, carpeting, paint, furniture,
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the whole thing. And now I go back and it's
back to being a country bedroom and I walk in
it's like, oh my god, I can't believe that I
lived in this little.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Did it bring up like a lot of memories, like
good memories?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It did? Yeah, it was. I mean like I remember
where my bed was, and I remember what part of
the ceiling I would look at, and where my TV
was and where my desk was. Like you have interesting Yeah,
you have the memory of like, oh, I remember a.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Long term memory.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I remember laying in this room and I lived in
this room for years, so yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, So do you think that like coming from a
family that has never really gone through so much trauma,
right as a family, I would assume, correct me if I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wrong right now?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Did that help with I guess being in the entertainment
industry because I have a like for me, I've observed
and I can also speak from my own experience that,
like a lot of entertainers right in general, we entertain,
of course because we love it and we love the art,
but we're also looking for frustrations and validation. Do you
(15:41):
find that because you had that at home that for
you it was purely for the art.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No, No, I think for me there was a validation
in it. Also. I my family was I had a
really sort of healthy, normal childhood, but my family, I
when I was young, I never learned the skills of
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being able to like sit around at dinner table and
have healthy debate and have differences of opinion and that
being okay, It was very it was very sort of this,
you know, from my parents. God bless them and they busted.
They were great parents morally, they they did such a
(16:32):
good job of parenting. But it was very We've learned
from our experiences in life and this is the best
way to do it, so they didn't. They didn't to
fail to which you learn. I've always say said to
people that I've learned way more in life from my
failures than i have from my successes. Absolutely, my successes
(16:55):
have just they've they've just come. You just kind of
hang on and you go, oh great, I'm just going
to keep doing what I'm doing. When you fail, it's
like then you you know, you have to look back
at things and you make little tweaks and you figure
out what didn't work, and you try and fix it,
and you stumble a little bit, and it makes you
who you are. It creates, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Because like imagine if you just had a life full
of success, Like what the like, how boring would that be?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I think that's a big problem though for kids that
are raised in families with money where it's just sort.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Of given, correct, But it's also a horrible life for
that person.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's a horrible life.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Like they're actually not necessarily happy, right because money is
not happiness. Money doesn't buy love. Found out the hard
way with that one. But like literally it was like
it's if there's a fine line, right of Like also,
most people find their purpose is found outside themselves. Right.
So if that's the case and then you come from money,
(17:55):
why even live right, right? Because what are you what
are you living for?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'm just here to spend some of this money.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And you get everything you want.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You want.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Daddy bought me a yacht, Daddy bought me this. But
at the end of the day, are you happy, like
do that by your happiness? You're still fucking miserable, right, totally.
So I think that's amazing. I mean, that's admirable that
your parents did that. Now, I think it's maybe our
general I would say, like we're the same I'm thirty nine,
I'm fifty. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's just a bumber.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's not the same generation.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yes, it's like ish right, so old ish.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Did you ever have a pager?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Absolutely? I also text on my did you do that?
A seventeen? Was an end? Just visualize it? One seven?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, and oh I I still to this day remember like,
of course, I Boob's text was one of my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It was like zero zero eight five. I can see
now why you're such a good solid man. And I'm
being serious way because it's very rare, like do I ever?
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I guess nowadays too it's so common to divorce, right,
it's so commic. Most of I would say most of
society today, their parents have either divorced or something happened. Right,
But there is a sense of I think grounding, like
whenever I'm like with you, like your energy definitely, like
(19:23):
it feels that you're super grounded at all costs, Like
it doesn't matter, nothing really shakes you. And that's a
good thing. That's awesome. And I think that's really hard
to find, especially in the entertainment industry, because like this
is I think very I think it's common that, like
I think our art really reflects of who we are
as people and the way we were raised. And I
think it's beautiful regardless. Right, I'm not judging it at all,
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but there is a sense of calmness. There's always been
the I mean maybe like five times we've lug out,
but like still, obviously Sharna has seen this amazing man, right,
and I'm so happy for her. Like Sharna, I've known
Sharna since she started dancing with the Stars here, but
I just remember, like you know, there were moments in
her life that she just wasn't happy, and I think
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she did the work to really find it within herself.
But she also and with that, you know, you are
what you put out there, and she found you and
you found each other.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
We were both though I had come out of my marriage,
so you know, I had been with Megan for fifteen years.
We were married for ten, had three kids.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I had no idea you guys were together that long?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Wow she was she's how old was she?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
She is now thirty?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So you guys got together when she was like eighteen?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Who? Yeah? We So Shanna and I we really met
at a point where she had been really working on
herself hard for she'd been single for almost five years
at that point. I had been single for two and
just really aggressively in therapy I had come out of
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I had this neurological stuff that had hit me before
then that I had come out of and in coming
out of that. Therapy was a big part of it,
because I I spent four and a half years recovering
from stroke like symptoms without ever having had a stroke.
But I couldn't speak.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I couldn't talk about this really quick because you had
vert were you diagnosed with having vertigo?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Or vertigo was one stage of it? It was I
had altered of colitis, and then I had vertigo and
I was bedridden for like three months, but both things
were undiagnosable. Nobody could figure out all the special neurologists. Yeah,
I had a neurologist then, So these neurological things started
happening after the vertigo, and that was It was four
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and a half years of my life. I got to
the point where I shuffled like I was a ninety
year old man. I couldn't speak, I couldn't read, I
couldn't write, I couldn't die.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And this was because of an accident that you and
Megan had gotten. No, this was nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It was dietary. Stop it completely dietary.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
The press has it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Wrong, completely wrong. Well, it's a it's a very it's
a confusing story. So it ends up. I again, it
was all undiagnosed by Western medicine. So I ended up
having to finally find a doctor that is much more
into like kinesiology and Eastern medicine. And he was like, oh,
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you have such internal inflammation from gluten and things you
eat your whole life, stress that that you couldn't tell
where a problem because they're internal. It was internal inflammation,
so there was no way of seeing from the outside.
He was like, I'm sure you felt fine, and you did,
and I did. I was active my whole life. I
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worked out, I did like I was very I was
that guy.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And you got a couple of opinions.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Oh, I had I had a doctor at Cedars, that is,
he's one of the top neurologists in the country, right,
and he would share everything that was going on with
me with his colleagues and try and figure out what
was going on. I'd done over one hundred and ninety
blood tests, I had two MRIs and it got to
the point where he was like, I don't know what
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to do. I don't know what's going on with you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Good paralyzed, Like you couldn't work, you couldn't get out
of bed.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I couldn't. I see such brain fog that I reintroduced
my my best friend of like twenty five plus years,
to my sister who he had also known for twenty
five plus years, because they were both in the same room.
And I was like, oh, Scott, you've met my sister
Lauralai before, right, And he was looking at me.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Like you just genuinely just did not remember.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Genuinely, Like I it just to me that was like
what you do when people are in a room. You
make sure that everybody knows every.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Right out of respect. Yes, yes, and and.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I just had no concept of that that was strange
at all.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So did that freak you out?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh? Absolutely, because I had no idea what caused it.
I had no idea if I could relapse again, I
had no It's when you're when you're kind of stumbling through, uh,
recovering from something, but thinking, like, God, what put me
here in the first place. Nobody's been able to tell me.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Have you seen the light at the end of the tunnel? Like,
have you through maybe changing your mentality? Like I believe
that with the stresses of life, that that does in
a way, though I know people would disagree with me,
but I believe that your mental health is not intact,
that huge completely paralyze you to the point where you
know certain diseases happen. And like, I know that it's controversial,
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but like I believe it one hundred percent. Brain is lazy, right,
Like if you stop using, if you stop learning, you know,
if you stop staying curious, like that's your brain will
turn into mush.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's a much Yes, you're it's you know, you go
to the gym and you work out, you need to
be doing the same things for your brain.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Which you can't even go to the gym and workout
if your brain's not intact.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It it controls everything literally, like I couldn't. Like I
was in recovering, I would read Doctor Seuss books to
my kids because they were so complex verbally to read.
Wo So it was like gymnastics for my brain and
socks and those books were oh my god. I could
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barely get through those.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's crazy. So you really don't still have like one
hundred percent definitive.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
No, not one hundred percent definitive. But I have been
I fully recovered from it. I've been one hundred percent
since then. Yeah, one hundred percent. Though has been tough
because coming out of it, I was like mid forties.
So it's like, Okay, how much is age related like
memory issues and things like that, and how much is
(25:58):
possible left over from what you don't I don't know
if I'll ever completely know the answer to that, and
I don't know if I'm supposed to, you.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Know, And that's okay. It's like surrender and the body
keeps score Like your body. Our bodies are so smart,
Like even if it's trauma that maybe I'm not saying
in your case, I'm just saying in general, like when
people don't talk about the traumas, it will your body
remembers and so it'll somehow detox itself right from that
whatever is trying to heal from. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
One of the reasons why I went into therapy coming
out of that was I had to spend so much
time listening, which I'd never really done in life like
I had i in growing up. I sort of because
of the skills that I had not really learned as
a child, I didn't have the ability to have healthy
(26:45):
debates in those things like I would. As soon as
somebody there were conflicting opinions or thoughts on things, I
could feel my blood boiling, like I could I could
feel myself getting defensive, and I felt like, Oh, somebody's
challenging me because I don't feel the same way, and
so they're you know, they're thinking something's wrong with me
for feeling this way. I didn't. I didn't understand the
(27:05):
concept of, oh, you can have two different opinions and
they're just opinions, like it's there's no there doesn't have
to be judgment within that. So I started into aggressive
therapy and realize like, oh I can stress played such
a huge part on what it is that I went through,
huge part.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
And society celebrates stress here in America at least, because
if you go to Europe, it's different. Right, people think
you're crazy for working this much, but here you're a hustler,
which is a good thing. And then you don't have
a vacation. If you go on vacation, you're lazy. Yeah,
you're a lazy person. But it's just so bad. I mean,
I could talk of I know this show is about
Dancing with the Stars and we will get there, don't
(27:47):
you worry, And we're going to get there right now.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
But glorious, Yeah, let me go get my glitter shirt
and will change.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I mean, you could be shirtless because that's what we
do on Dancing with the Stars. Just where your pasties, Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I made sure like that was a very specific rule
for me when I was going and I was like,
I don't want to wear sparkly, glittery.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Why why would you do that to yourself? This is
why me and your co star didn't get a log
at times because it's like you better ride ride with
the ocean, you guys, the waves of the ocean. We
wear glitter.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Guys were battling over who was wearing the most glitter,
and that I think that was.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
What were you. Yes, we were because he loved his
glitter at the end of it, and you didn't want
to shimmy either.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You guys were doing photo shoots and it was like, wait,
he's shining than I am, and so that created and
then we.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Got Super Bowl ratings. That's just the difference. That's all.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Drop the mic if I could mic drop.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Mic drop. So we are going to discuss your experience
on Dancing with the Stars. Would you have done it?
If you and Sharina were not you would have never
had they asked you.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They had asked me for like fifteen years, and it
was just herd pass because I've never wanted to be
a dancer. I have no draw to being a dancer
like I was. I've I've been consistently working and you
were like, uh, I know when he I remember when
(29:18):
he texted me he was so excited when he was
going to do the show, like he was genuinely excited
about it. Actually yeah. And I was like, oh, good,
you know, good for you. That's that's amazing. But it
was just.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Nothing that But then something and something must have.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Dating and it was COVID and uh, it just kind
of felt like the stars aligned for it. Dina reached
out and she was.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like, he reached out. I was wondering if Sharna tried
to convince you no.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So Sean and I had talked before that jokingly and
we were like, yeah, we'll never do something like like
we'll never do the show together and do that kind
of stuff. That's what she Oh yeah, oh. We were
like in cahoots, are got it. So then when Dina
reached out and she was like, hey, so I'm reaching out,
you know, see if you guys want to be partners
(30:09):
and dance on the show, and uh, it was a different.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Situation had At first.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
It wasn't a hard no no. It was when the
offer came in, it was like I, Sean and I
really sat and talked about it. We were like, this
is a big it's a big thing. Yes, it's we're
going to be putting our relationship in front of the
cameras for and.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You want to see another side of Sharna that you
may not have wanted to see.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It's true, I was going to see regardless that was
but for me that was the thing. It was like,
I want to see what your life because I had
gone to dance things with her before then, like she
did she did one thing at like Universal Florida and
then Disney Florida. It was a convention, and there's a
part of me that was like, uh, Like when she
(31:00):
would dance out and she'd be like, what do you
you know? What'd you think? I'd be like, amazing, obviously,
like what you know? That's why are you even asking
me what I think? Not realizing how much really has
gone into it within her life.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, that's so beautiful that you care and that you
want to and like actually put yourself in a vulnerable
situation like dancing with the stars, because it's not easy.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's not easy.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I mean, honestly, I don't know exactly how it feels.
But you're basically doing something you've never done before. You're
moving your body like you've never moved before. And not
only is that happening, but you're being filmed and being
yelled at by your girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I've yeah, so that was yeah. So that was a
weird dynamic to figure out, like how I'm sure you know,
because for her, she was like she obviously we're dancing together,
so she's she's in charge and doing all that, but
at the same time we're together, and it's like, you know,
how important is doing incredibly well in this compared to
(32:01):
our relationship doing incredibly well?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So is competitive.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
She's super competitive and she's super good at what it
is she does. So it was a learning experience for her.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
See I turned into a different person. It's almost like
I have split personalities, right, So it's like here is
Cheryl Burke so sweet, Oh, it's like girl next door,
not even but like anyway, but you know what I mean,
like approachable. And then there's like Cheryl Burke the task master,
the girl who had the dumb and dumber haircut, who
is just so.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Not to call you out, but iron had like both
of his had to have surgery on his.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Come on, that's his problem. Was just break danced.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Him into the ground to wear his dancing shoes during
rehearsal and everything.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
He is posted weird, not dancing shoes. This is danyl
get down, get on all fours and.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Uh, I've heard legend within the dance world as far
as being a task master.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, I know, but that you can blame ABC Disney
for that because they kind of labeled me like that.
So I've just continued. I blame them just kidding. I
take full account of it because.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Like I was going to stop you right there.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
This is the way I was trained. It's called tough love.
And I'm not one to give great like I'm not like,
my love language isn't words of affirmation?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
What is your love language?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's uh, do what as I say? Yeah, yeah, no,
it really is languages. I not like no, No, it's
kind of like it was like it's like, you know,
just show that you care by doing what you say
you're going to do, period and of discussion whatever that is.
That's actually that's acts of service. But like you interpreted,
(33:53):
your perception of that is like do what I say,
go down, give me ten push ups, and like shut
up for me.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
It's like not everybody's perception of service.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
No, it's like help around the house. You lazy like that,
that's what lack of service is. I think anyway, it's
not about me, This is about you.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
What. It's funny how those those rules have shifted, because
let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
It's definitely not about how long do you got Let's
learn about God. No, that's not I'm so tired of
talking about just me. Okay, But I really want to
know how did you guys overcome the battle of being
first of all, your relationship was completely out anyway. The
point is is that you kind of know your role
(34:41):
right like in a way?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, And did.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
They ask or did they say to you guys like
we're going to do We're going to talk about like
your health issues or we're going to do this or
did were they straight up like, honestly.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
We did. We did talk about that stuff. I mean
we we had it very clearly carved out contractually that
like we weren't going to go there on some things
like our our relationship was really important to us and
so we would give some but we had a whole
bunch to give but that. But honestly, at the end
(35:17):
of the day, I don't know if the rest of
it was their focus. I mean, they really I feel
like they knew what they had. They had something that
was completely unique to what what the show is. They had.
They had two people that were actually together. Yeah, so
they were like, we're going to base all of their
(35:39):
stuff off of that.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And after how long did you last till we did
four dances? Four so you did it one month plus rehearsals.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
So it was like because we did the Disney thing,
remember it was two it was two dances, one after
the yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, so we did we did the Villains Night and
then the Hero's Night. Oh my gosh, we got eliminated
after Villain's Night and it was a double elimination.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yes, I remember now.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
You were dressed if we did Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And how did you how are you eliminated as a pirate?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Were you a pirate or like, oh, I was in
full prosthetics. It was a whole like I was on stage.
I'd like it's we spent like an hour doing because
I was Bibosa, So it was like I had scars
and like full and it took like an hour and
a half to get it all off afterwards.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Oh my god. When Snookie was on Dancing with the Stars,
she also got eliminated during a time like that, like
a theme night. She was crying because she was so
sad she got eliminated. She was like a ghost, and
her white makeup just was slowly dripping off her cute
little face. It was the saddest thing in the world.
Like I just wanted to like, I was like, please,
I was.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
A meme for sure, right, for sure? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
But did you have an overall great experience on Dancing
with the Stars or was it something that you'd never
do again.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I wouldn't say that it's something I would never do again.
It was. It was an interesting experience. It was. It
wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible, Like it was right
in the It was a learning experience.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
What did you learn? For me?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I learned the importance of keeping certain priorities my priority
no matter what is going.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
On, like boundaries.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, like, okay, this is relationship first in all of this.
So yeah, you guys can say whatever you want and
judging you can you know, run wild with whatever you want.
For me, it was just a reminder of like, keep
keep my eye on the ball, like.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And your morals, yeah, stay focused, like no, you know,
keep in mind what is really important to you.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And at the end of the day, I was like,
I judge, his scores are not important to me compared
to having a healthy relationship. So I can stand here
and they can go, oh yeah, your arm, and it's like, okay,
all right, thank you. Literally, I'm never gonna I'm not
going to dance again. I'm going to dance. I'll dance
with Sharna at home.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Right for your wedding congratulations?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Oh yes, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
But wait, why do you think you got eliminated? Do
you think you got eliminated because purely off the dancing
or do you think you there's a conspiracy theory?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I have theories. I have my my my thoughts about it,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah. But was quoted on your podcast saying that she
believes that she when she text right, So she texts
one of the exacts and she goes, I, this is
not what we agreed to doing. Like, I don't like
the way we were coming across. Just if this is
what we're going to continue to do, just let us
go eliminate us right now. Yeah, So we can't ask
to be eliminated like because it doesn't happen like it is,
(38:48):
Like there is rules, standards and practices do count votes? Right,
it's fifty to fifty, right, fifty percent judges fifty percent votes?
Is that?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But didn't that change though? After Bobby Bones isn't aren't judges?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
So the judges get to choose who goes home? Is
that what happened with you in your case?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
They do no, because it was a double elimination. But
I think what so my theory is, or my thought
on it all is we were they they heavily focused
on the relationship within the routines and the stuff we
were doing, but then we were judged poorly because of
(39:27):
those choices that were made on the production side. So
we were kind of just ponds in the middle. And
it was like, I you know, I remember when when
we were standing up in front of the judges after
doing Disney uh, Disney Night, and we had danced to
was It No Snow White? And we had the kiss
(39:50):
in the beginning, and it was this whole romantic thing. Yeah,
and then we were judged of like, I think you
guys are leaning too heavily. You know, it's too romantic.
You're leaning too heavily on the relationship the judges, and
we were like and I remember saying specifically. I was like,
but you've seen the movie, right, Like it's like that's
the whole These are Disney romantic movies. Like what you know,
(40:12):
what did you I don't understand what you expected us
to do. I think at the end of the day,
everybody plays their roles, right, you know people, I think
viewers don't realize that it's a show at the end
of the day. So everybody's playing their characters. You've got
these people that are credible dancers and judges within it,
(40:35):
but they're not it's there. They're not judging purely out
of dancing. They've got there's a show to be made,
so they're trying to create drama with their you know,
there are other things going on there.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
So wait for the listeners who don't are not familiar
with TV. What do you mean that it's a show?
Like exactly what you said was the drama?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Like you have the story television show and it's been
on for how many seasons now thirty two seasons. You're
not on for thirty two seasons with just people dancing.
It's got to be like reality shows. They're they're not
really real, like they they plan out.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
What these things are going to be and they and
they think, like, hey, what are people what are viewers
going to want to see? What's going to be an
interesting cat fight? Who should we put together that that
they'll create conflict together?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Look at vandr pump Roles Like that's a perfect example, right.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Aged Yeah, right, it's it's it's created and they do
an amazing job at it. Yeah, so it's not I
can't knock them for that. But it's like you have
to keep in mind that is what it is. It's
a television show you're watching.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Do you disagree with Adrian Peterson's being cast on Dancing
with the Stars? Like, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
I definitely think it's questionable, But like.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
You know, we've had controversial characters on Dancing with the Stars.
I think that is also the fact that this is
a TV show. You know. Obviously, Sharna commented and I
understand and I totally get it what she's saying. I
also come from an abused you know, childhood. But like, also,
you're under contract, Like you can't just turn around and
walk out.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Right, Yeah, no you can't. It's a tough. It's a
sticky situation for people because you guys, as the pros.
Don't know who you're going to be paired with until
you walk into that room and you shoot. Then I
have to google you exactly until you shoot the uh
the the day of like everybody meeting meeting their partners.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
And we've already signed our contracts by then.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Oh yeah, you're you're in. You're already in. Yeah, wardrobe
is ready to go. You're you're psyched up for the season,
and you're psyched up for I'm going to be spending
seven days a week with this person.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I've never arranged marriage.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I've never in my life done a job that is
a seven day a week job, like dancing What the
Stars was? They they down they downplay the whole thing.
They're like totally like a couple of hours a day
of not even there. Oh it's oh, it's it'll be
the easiest thing. And then all of a sudden, you're
there and you're rehearsing, and you're like, I need another
(43:05):
like six hours a day to be ready for Monday
because my brain doesn't remember choreography. That's like, I'm not
I'm not from that world, Like I don't that's not
what I do. And then you start you're like I
don't want to look like a dummy on Monday, So
then you're just and you're sweating, and the tension that
it creates.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Oh man, but what a great formula. Huh, it's a
great Ever made this up? Kudos, it's genius. Kudos to
you from manipulating. I'm just kidding. No, But like I
first of all you and Sharna, though, that is the
most important, and I'm so I mean, like, honestly, I
couldn't be happier for Shara the last five years of
(43:48):
Sharna's like dancing with the starter's career. Let's say, don't
you find how it's all just honestly meant to be
in a weird way when act comes, Like, yes, you
could see both sides, right, But I don't think Maybe
I don't know, I'm not psychic. But like I'm just saying,
maybe if things were different, if she did go back,
maybe things wouldn't unfold the way it's been unfolding, which
(44:09):
has been a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
We are Sean and I talk about it all the time.
We're big believers in the universe puts things in front
of you and has a plan for you, and you
you either fight it or you sit back and you go, Okay,
I you you know, the plan is bigger than what
I what I can think of. I I mean, funny
(44:36):
plan wise, I was the season before me that Sharna
had done Dancing with Jesse. They had reached out to
me for If I had done that season, I most
likely would have been partnered with Sharna. Sharna has like
a has always had a very strict don't date my
partners thing. Oh really, Oh she's like, she's like, that's
(45:01):
why she's such a question. But I don't think I
I don't. I honestly don't know if it was just
for figure eight you have done it at all. That's interesting.
I didn't know that about Yeah. So there were all
these things. There were all these different times where we
could have met. We have the same business manager and
(45:22):
so we could have met, so we could have met
in all these different ways, and we never did. But
it wasn't the right time, Like if we honestly, if
we had met the year before on Dancing with the Stars,
I wasn't in a place where I was when we met.
She wasn't in a place where she was when we met.
It took us meeting at that moment being in that
(45:45):
place for this relationship to work the way that it has.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Brian, thank you so much. When are you getting married?
Where are you getting married? And where's my advice?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
I don't like your questions. I think I am. Yeah,
I think your podcast has taking a turn for the
worst at this point.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Just lie. I think it's called sex and lies and
spray hands.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
I think you're asking very inappropriate questions.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Wait, I have to do fire rapid I'm going.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
To see if there's hr.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Somewhere then can reach out to that closet, right, Okay,
I'm busy, right now, really quick, We're going to do this.
This is rapid fire. And that was part of the
rapid fire, was the marriage questions. But okay, don't you
don't have to answer whatever you're not comfortable with. We're
going to name one member of the cast of Beverly
Hills nine o two and oh my fave, most popular,
most popular, Luke, most insecure, Oh jeez, I can't.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I don't want to say. Okay, fine, fair enough, I'm
going to on that one Iron.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Most confident, uh Shannon, most flirty, probably man, oh I
heard that. Don't worry me. Don't worry. Hey, this is
your past? Most friendly? I was a kid, that's right?
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah? Most what friendly? Most friendly? Luke?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh, this is god. We would have been perfect together.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
What could have been?
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Most likely to stumble drunk out of a bar? That's fun, Toy,
I love that. Most serious?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Most serious.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Jason, No, Jenny, Most fun, probably Jason. Who would you
want to be stuck on a desserted island with and
a desert like.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
A desert island, not like a desert.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Not full of like ice cream, not like you know,
a desert island, Luke, Most intimidating, three more, nobody cool.
Who do you talk to the most to this day?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Iron always?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Who's always late? Who was always late? Set?
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Shannon?
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Always on time?
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I was pretty on time?
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Okay, all righty on time? Okay, I get it. Thank you?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Language.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Wait, please tell my listeners about your podcast and where
people can find it and what's next.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, so, uh my my new podcast is called Oldish.
It's with Sharanna and uh and Randy Spelling and it's
on iHeart here or anywhere that you listen to.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
Podcasts, so many options. Thank you, Thank you so.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Much for having me talk to you. We've run into
each other so many times, but we've never done this.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Thank you. Make sure you guys follow us at sex
Lies and spray tands on our Instagram handle and make
sure your comment. Let me know who you want me
to interview. What do you all think? Let me know
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