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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM paranormal
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of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.
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You are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself,
depending on the subject matter and your needs. Hi.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. It's been
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a while since we talked about capturing voices and images
of the afterlife, so we're going to talk about voices today.
But before we begin, I want to make sure if
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of free goodies for you, including a copy of my
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of the Afterlife episodes, especially if you are interested in
what we're going to be talking about today, which is
instrumental trance communication. You may remember Sonia Ronaldi, who is
top at the list of capturing voices and images, and
you may have seen the film we produced a few
years ago. In fact, she'll be doing a presentation for
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our community mid March of twenty twenty five. You can
join us live, or if you're listening to this in
the future, there will be a replay atweedodie dot com.
This past week, I had an extraordinary conversation with Tony Rathman.
He and his wife created something called staticcom to talk
to the afterlife in real time. What a fascinating conversation.
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You can find out more about staticcom and the work
at Entity Voices dot com, or simply go to YouTube
and search staticcom. Let's meet Tony.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I didn't believe any of this. Fifteen years ago when
ghost hunting shows started coming out. My wife started to
watch him and she kept saying to me, you got
to see this, you'll love it. I couldn't last a
minute and I'd get up and I'd walk away, and
I'm like, come on, this isn't real, this is television.
Part of it was because my father was a physics professor,
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and so as a kid, when I asked questions, Dad,
why is the skyblue, He'd say things like, well, there's
moisture in the air. When sunlight hits it blues the
most reflective color that shines through that moisture, and that's
why the sky looks through. So there was no talk
about actor rived consciousness surviving. That wasn't part of me
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growing up. So then one Valentine's Day in twenty ten,
my wife says, I want to do something different. I said, okay,
what do you want to do because I want to
go ghost hunting? And I was like, oh boy, because
I didn't believe it. I didn't think any of it
was real. But I had two choices. I could take
her or I could have her met at me until
next Valentine's Day. So I figured I'll take her. So
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I did some research online found a place here in Phoenix, Arizona,
which had a reputation of being haunted, so I booked
it for the weekend, bought her some relatively inexpensive equipment,
knowing that it would probably be used once and then
sit on a shelf for the next couple of years.
And so I took there. I played along. She had
a wonderful time. But it was when she got back
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and she started reviewing the photographs, the video and the audio,
and there was stuff on there. I could not explain
how it got there. She was calling me over every
couple of minutes, what's in this photo? This wasn't there,
And we took it. Whose voices this? You and I
were the only one in the basement at three in
the morning. Who's answering this question? I was blown away.
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So I tried to debunk it for like a month,
couldn't do it. Finally said, there were let's go back
and try again. Maybe there's lighting we didn't notice that
were causing shadows. Maybe there were events where voices were
coming through that we didn't catch. So we went back
and Nope, couldn't find any events, couldn't find any weird lighting.
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Couldn't explain again what had showed up. So we went
back again and again, and this is how it started.
And now fifteen years later, we're still doing it. But
what fascinated me the most was an EVP. How I
could get a voice from somebody who was not there,
was not in front of us, was not in the
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location we were standing in, but yet with timing in relevance,
was answering the question I asked with intelligence. That absolutely
fascinated me. So as the years went by, we developed
and continued to focus on EVP. Then we switched over
to ITC, or instrumental trans communication. If I could get
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answers of a digital recorder what's called a record and
review process, meaning I'd asked all my questions, but I
couldn't necessarily hear the responses. I could only hear it
when the recorder was replayed. So then you'd go home
and you'd review it, and then you'd hear any responses
that were there. But it didn't allow for communication because
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by the time you heard it understood what was said,
the moment had passed. So that's what drew us into ITC. Today,
it's most known in America as a spirit box because
Frank Sumption invented the spirit box, which scans radio. Before
the spirit Box, there was a device developed by Frederick G.
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Jergensen and then picked up by Constantine Rodine as well
as Marcello Bachi and Marcello Bacchi used it for about
forty years, where it also used a radio, but sat
on a single portion of the dial. Whereas the spirit
box stands up and down the radio, this would sit
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on a vacant station, meaning only producing the sound of
white noise, and he got communication two way communication. He
could ask a question and get a response. Still, my
wife and I built spirit boxes for about twelve years,
trying to improve them, make them quieter, make the communication
more understandable, and we were able to do that, but
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the one thing we were not able to do was
to lengthen the communication, meaning we'd get a word or
two maybe you know, one side of one hundred times
or five hundred times full sentence. But it was very rare.
And the theory behind the spirit box was that entities
were to take the fragments of audio from the radio
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it's scanning up and down and rearrange them into their
own sentences. While through our research we determine that's not
the case at all. In fact, no radio signal is
needed whatsoever. All we needed was the white noise sound.
So we replaced the radio with a white noise generator
live white noise generator which produces every sound the humaneer
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can hear from twenty hurts to twenty killer hertz, and
with that we were able to get full suit way
communication answers to our questions with timing in relevance and intelligence.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Incredible. Now I've seen some of your videos, and could
you talk about some of the questions you'd ask and
some of the responses that would come, just so people
can get an idea what it is you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Sure, one of the first questions. And like I said,
when we started to realize that this could be done
and that the method that was being used work, we
had some counterparts a while back that brought back the
direct radio voice method because, like I said, Machellobachi had
been tested by scientists and they couldn't explain how this
was happening. So that method was reinvented, recreated in the
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twenty first century to figure out can we do it?
Does it work? And it did. Then we moved to
STATICOM and we've gone from STATICOM to STATICOM two point
zero and now staticcom three point zero, which has only
existed for a couple of weeks. Now but with two
point zero we were asking all sorts of questions, things
like if the identities are no longer human bodied, meaning
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they don't have ears. When I speak, I create a
vocal disturbance in the atmosphere, and some other human with
human ears, the follicles in the ear will vibrate. That
vibration transfers to the liquid center of the year, which
then goes to the brain translates into the speech. So
if you don't have a human bond, how do they
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hear me speak? While we asked that question, the answer
came back. We call it death energy of your mind.
That's the thing that was a phenomenal response to get
back for a variety of reasons. One in doing EVP
work for fifteen years would noticed at times that the
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answer would show up on the recording before we even
finished asking the question. This explains it. I don't have
to verbally express it. They are getting it literally by
me thinking.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
There's a lot of grief happening in the world, and
most of my listeners are people who have lost loved ones.
I know we're not lost, but that is the expression
we use. We have migrated to an unseen world, so
we're looking for evidence that our loved ones go on?
Have you come to believe that our loved ones go on?
Has a staticcom worked with connecting people to their loved
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ones or you talking to loved ones?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Absolutely after life?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Can you tell us about that?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Absolutely? So. One of the first connections was made by
our former partners and he got a message. It was
too quick at that time, meaning they speak so fast
at times that your mind can't comprehend it because it's
literally coming out so quickly that your brain can't even
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pick apart the words. But he literally got a message
from both his mother, who had recently passed away a
year or two ago, and his grandmother, both speaking, both
responding to him, called out his name, said that they
were connecting, and his first question was do you know
who I am? Can you say my name? And the
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response came back Ronnie, which his mother would call him.
It's mom, it's Lucy, and Lucy was his grandmother. But
they both talked I had reached out to my grandfather
and got him to connect and answer. My wife mother
passed away about two years ago. She was able to
get messages from her. We recognized the voice. Her mother
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also spoke into Golog as my wife speaks English Japanese
and to Golog the voice came through into Golog. She
picked it up immediately and said, that's my mom. I said,
I know, I recognize the voice. So the implications for
this are literally mind blowing, because not only can a
conversation be had, the voice can be recognized. So it
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supports the theory that consciousness very well does survive physical
death of the body and goes on. I mean, we've
had conversations Marchelli Bachi, who was the one who had
used this device or a similar device. We've upgraded it,
but back thirty five forty years we got in contact
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with him. He responded to us, My wife said something
like this is your method. Can you say something and
clear as a bell, he said, I'd say glad to
meet you. You can still hear the accent and his
voice from the European language that he spoke. But what
we really want is we want science to take a
deeper look at this scientists, because these voices aren't coming
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from a radio anymore. They are coming from a process
called stochastic resonance, which is basically using white noise to
take an undetectable signal and make it detectable. That's where
these voices are lying. But they are there, which means
that spirits are constantly looking for ways to communicate.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
This is such good news. There's more with Tony when
we come back. Let's go to the break. You're listening
to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Stay there, Sandra will be right back. Hey, the Coast
to Coast a channel to coastdam dot com for more information.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Hey, this is George Nori and you're listening to the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Dam Paranormal Podcast Network. Thanks
for being here. Now let's get back to more with Sandra.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and we're listening to Tony Rathman in his creation of
staticicom Our loved ones want us to know that they
are okay and still live on. Let's continue.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Spirit are constantly looking for ways to communicate, and they
are very eager to communicate. It's just a matter of
being open enough to accept that they're trying to do this.
Listen to what they have to say and devices like
staticcom make it clearly simple to be able to have
a conversation with consciousness that's no longer human embody.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
This is such good news.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I know.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I've done a lot of work on my own with
EVPs and I've recorded some amazing things. I'm very close
to Sonia Andaldi and the team. She's done a lot
of that and then also visual now. But for people
to know that their loved ones really want them to
know that they're alive, they're well. We've seen some great
medium demonstrations. We see how close our loved ones are,
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that they're part of our lives. But there is something
tony that takes us from hope and faith to knowing
when you can hear a voice, oh, you've given me goosebumps.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That's one of the really fascinating things about staticom is
that mediums are great. We've worked with them before, we
worked with them with this method, But instead of a
third party telling you what they're hearing or what messages
they're getting, for you to be able to hear it
yourself and anyone else who's standing in the room, to
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hear them speak and respond to whatever question you ask.
That to me is another step up to be able
to hear them for yourselves. Hear it for yourself rather
than someone else explain it to you.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I completely agree. Now, a staticcom something that people can
do themselves. Is it only one machine that you have
right now and it's in development? How can we know
more about it and what the future is that we
can be involved?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Sure, right now, it's still in development, and we, just
like I said, did an upgrade. It's a complicated system though,
unlike a spirit box that you buy it, turn it
on and you can just start asking questions. Listen is
a more scientific structure of sound, of the principle of
stochastic residence. It is a Frankenstein's Monster of audio editing
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software from frequency to noise reduction and everything in between.
So one of the reasons why we haven't just released
it yet and turned it over is because a the
research is still going on. And two, even if we
turn it over to a thousand people, to begin with
the number of questions, Oh hey, I turned it on,
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but I'm not getting what you're getting? What do I do?
There's through us, myself and my wife to be able
to handle that answer questions properly, be able to instruct them.
You know, how to correct it, how to fix it.
We would be overwhelmed and swamped right now. So unfortunately,
until we figure out how that can be done, do
we plan to release it? Yes, we do. Are we
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ready to do that right at this moment? No, I'm
afraid we're not. That's okay.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Will you think of the cell phones when they first
came out, these big clunky things, Oh my gosh, And
then look what we can do now access almost all
of information in one second. Right, However, people can see
your work. You've got videos. I know people will want
to research this, and here are some of the examples,
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and tell us about some of the things you've recorded.
What we can see, what we can find where.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Is probably one hundred and fifty or more videos up
on YouTube if you just go and search stata com.
It is everything from communication with loved ones to answers
to questions from a scientific basis that we want to know, Hey,
how does this occur? How does this happen? Random questions
like how many fingers am I holding up? Or what
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am I holding in my hand? The hardest part about
asking questions is that a we're scientifically minded, so we're
trying to figure out information to get There are literally
millions of questions. People always ask us, did you ask
how the pyramids were built? Did Atlantis really exist? I
mean I could spend a lifetime asking questions and just
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see what responses come through. Is that a fascinating subject? Absolutely?
It is being able to connect to loved ones. We
also do public events with this, where we're in front
of a large group of people. We allow people to
ask their own questions and get answers, and we've had
people connect in public events with loved ones that they've
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identified the voice. The voice answered questions that only they
would know. In fact, we did one up in Sedona
a month or so ago and a woman there had
a son that passed away and when he was in hospice,
they create a code sentence and she said, if this
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is really you, we had a code sentence, what is
that sentence? The voice came through. I saw her face
just go white. I heard what he said, and she's like,
that's him. That was our code.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Oh my gosh. On your website, would you be able
to see where your live events are? What's coming up?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah? We put the arrive events on hold at the
moment they're going to come back again. But like I said,
because we upgraded Statacom, there's a whole testing process to
make sure everything's working correctly as it should. And then
of course there's the whole research side of it as well.
What else can we learn about consciousness? Is it around
us all the time, which at this point we know
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it is. They can see us, they can hear us,
they can tell us what we're wearing, they know what
we did, they can tell us what day it is.
All these questions and examples are shown on both the website.
There's interviews that we've done explaining how it works, samples shown,
so just about everything you can think of. Plus, we
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did a three part documentary on paraflix. It is free
to watch. It's about three hours and seven minutes long,
but it covers exactly my clue, how list breaks down,
how we believe it's working, and there's a ton of
samples in there as well.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
We have to go to paraflex or can we find
that through Entity voices dot com.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
There there's a link on both the website and Tony
Rathman Facebook page that takes you right to it. Like
I said, it's free. It'll take your right to the link,
you click and watch.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
It's that simple, okay, that we can do that. So
Sony Vernaldi's a good friend of mine, and like I said,
she's recorded voices and she's working now with pictures and things.
She's been doing this for well over thirty years. She's
a miraculous woman. I've asked her what it takes to
do this, because a lot of people think if they
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get a recorder or if they just do this, oh,
it should just be that easy. And what she says,
it is a commitment. So those in the unseen world
that work with you, whatever that team is, you know,
I imagine people all waiting in line to get their mouth
on the microphone to come through right as the vision
I have. But I believe that you and your wife
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have shown that commitment. So I think there's teams of
scientists over on the other side that are working with you.
It's just my gut instinct. Can you talk a little
bit about that commitment, because I know people want to
pick up recorders and try things on their own, and
I do think there's like beginner's luck. Sometimes they hook
us like they give us an example and then we
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do this for ourselves. But it really takes that passion
and commitment correct.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It does, and it also takes a variety of time,
and it can vary by individual. Who that individual is,
how open their heart is, how accepting they are of
information that may be unconventional to what they were taught.
That plays a major role. The other major role is
things like trust, honesty. The ability of who you are
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plays just as big of a role in getting that
communication as what device you're using. Spirits can literally manipulate
most electronic devices, and a lot of people like you said,
we'll say, well, I bought a recorder and I tried
EVP four or five times. I got nothing, So I
don't think this works. While it does take time, they're
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looking at you saying, Okay, are they doing this because
they want to learn? Do they want to grow? Do
they want a better understanding of what life is about
and what the afterlife is about? Or are they doing
it to post on Facebook or Twitter or Instagram to
get likes? And you can't hide that whatever your inner
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feelings are, whatever your intentions are, they're going to know
right off the bat. But even if your intentions are good,
it takes time. Before we started getting really clear communication.
It was years and not that we didn't get communication
before that, but it was a word or two. It
was enough to keep us going, keep us chasing it,
keep us researching it. But anybody can do it in
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your own personality, your attitude, your outlook will have a
huge effect on how quickly it begins, how it develops,
and the longer you do it, it just continues to unfold.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, to have that dedication, that commitment, that love even
when we are talking to our loved ones. One of
the practices I always tell people is to picture their
loved one. Think of a happy memory, fun filled with love.
Have them step forward. See if you can feel a
little tingle or a little touch, or sometimes loved ones
put an image in your mind or past memory. That's
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gentle ways of communication because, like you said, it is
through thought. But if we do it once, then we say, oh,
it didn't work. Well, there's your loved one standing there
in the unseen world, really wanting you to know that
they're still alive and well, because it helps with grief
to believe in the afterlife. It really does. So it
is something that we talk to them. Okay, we're going
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to do this Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. We're going to
keep it going because I don't think Tony, that when
we migrate to the other side, we're given all the
information in the universe. I think we have to learn
this probably too.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Would you think, Yeah, I believe that it's a shared
universal mind that we return to, and I think that
that knowledge within it, which I believe we're part of.
Now we're just separate and embodied in the human body.
When that connection breaks and we return to the other side,
I think we go back to that universal knowledge, which
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is shared knowledge. But you made a really good point
about if somebody does EVP three or four times and
doesn't get a response. What I can tell you from
fifteen years of research is they can hear you, regardless
of whether you can hear them or not. So if
you say to them, good morning, I really miss you,
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I hope you're having a pleasant day, they heard you.
And we know that because we've had them repeat things
to us that we said without any equipment, without any devices.
And then we'll go, hey, I made a certain statement
on sucking such day. Send it to you. What was
it that I said? And boom through the machine. They'll
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repeat the statement I said three or.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Four days, my goodness, and it is like learning a
new language to an extent. I know, once I got
the hang of EVPs and I started getting communication and trusting,
I would go back to my original recordings and there
would be words on them. So I know for myself,
my mind was picking up the sound of the white noise,
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and within that there were words. Let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back with Tony. You're listening
to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
You're right there.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
There's more Sandra common right out.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
The best afterlife information you can get.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Well, you're a long Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.
Hey everyone, it's producer Tom of Coast to Coast, A
M and more Sandra starts right now.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,
and we're talking to Tony Raffman, co creator of staticcom
to hear voices live time from loved ones in the afterlife.
There's something Tony said just before the break that bears
repeating that they can hear us no matter if we
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can hear them or not. Let's play that again and continue.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
What I can tell you from fifteen years of research
is they can hear you regardless of whether you can
hear them or not. So if you say to them,
good morning, I really miss you, I hope you're having
a pleasant day, they heard you. And we know that
because we've had them repeat things to us that we
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said without any equipment, without any devices, and then we'll go, hey,
I made a certain statement on sucking such day, send
it to you. What was it that I said? And
boom through the machine, they'll repeat the statement I said
three or four days.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Prior, my goodness, And it is like learning a new
language to an extent. I know, once I got the
hang of EVPs and I started getting communication and trusting,
I would go back to my original recordings and there
would be words on them. So I know for myself,
my mind was picking up the sound of the white
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noise within that there were words. So I think with
people to have that patience and to trust, and also
to be able to trust your instinct, because like you said,
they can hear us, but we may not be able
to hear them. Doesn't mean they're not talking.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Correct, That is absolutely correct. You know people always used
to say, well, you know what do you think the
biggest barrier is between the living and the dead. The
simple barrier is the human body. Our site is limited
to visual sight only. We can't see infra red full spectrum.
There are a variety of other visual spectrums that the
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human eye can't see. Our hearing is limited to twenty
herds to twenty killer hurts. There's some variety ultrasound, all
sorts of other sound frequencies that the human air can't hear.
So it's almost as if when you're alive and learning
and growing, you're meant to be set rated. But due
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to technology, due to open mindedness and the ability to
accept dreams, images, other information that comes to you, you
can break that boundary down. But you're absolutely right. I mean,
they are there, they are watching, they are keeping an
eye on you, and with devices such as static it's
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super exciting because science, even today, even with the way
that it's expanded, and they're starting to say we believe
consciousness might survive death. Well not might. When I can
ask a question with no mics, no nothing but my
own human voice standing in the middle of my house
and get a response that answers my question to a
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tee from somebody knock in the house. That's pretty good
indication that consciousness very well survives death, that survived as well.
We one time ask for a lost dog passed away
and sure enough that came through from a friend of ours.
When he asked the question, said the dog's name, if
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you're there, bark for me. Sure enough, bar came right through.
So petsv souls as well in those continue.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Absolutely, And the research I've done on near death experiences
and the vertical information and simply put, that is things
that people have witnessed while their bodies lying there dead
and they can't hear, they can't see, and they've floated
up above the hospital. One of my favorite stories is
somebody saw read high heeled shoe up there and they're like, well,
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that can't be And somebody ran up to the roof
and on the top of the hospital is that shoe?
You know, there is so much evidence, but we all
have a big piece of us Tony that is skeptical.
How do we trust and just kind of set that
skeptical mind to the side for a little while.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, it's not easy to do and for a lot
of people until it happens to them. Like I said,
I was completely skeptic of all of this, didn't think
it was real, didn't think it existed, and I grew
up that way for thirty years. But then when it
started happening to me, it was that personalization. One of
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the first EVPs I ever got. I asked for the
name or whoever was speaking to me, and she gave
her name, and that was so mind blowing to me.
And then I'd go back and I'd say her name, Hey,
are you there? And she'd respond, And this was just
EVP at the time, but it was that personalized encounter
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of this is real, this exists. There's so much more
to life than what we know or what science knows.
And science doesn't explain reality or life. They explain how
things function, they explain how behaviors predictable, and what they
expect to happen, but they don't tell you what life
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is or what it's about or how it exists. So
all of those doors are open. So when you talk
about out the adventure of diving into a real treasure
haunt of information, the afterlife is it And once you
start to go down that road and get information that
supports what you're thinking. It's fascinating and it just keeps
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pushing you along to find out more, dive in deeper
and see how far you can take it and what
information you can receive from it, And that to me
is absolutely fascinating and mind blowing. I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I'm now twenty seven to twenty eight years into researching
the afterlife. It is an onion that you just peel
into the center and it never ends, and it's the
sweetest onion, it really is, and it has such an
impact on not only help through grief, but how we
live life. When we start realizing that we're not just
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less and bone, then it's like, well, who am I?
What is my life for? How do we make the
most of being here on earth? Do you have any
thoughts on who we are as people and why we're
here and get the biggest bang for the buck being human?
Any thoughts on that, Tony?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah? Absolutely. We follow a theory called analytic idealism, which
basically says that the one ontological primitive and what that
basically means is the one standard building block in life
is consciousness. And we believe that to be universal consciousness,
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and life here on the planet when we're embodied, is
a learning experience. If universal consciousness is one mind and
we're all part of that one mind, that mind can't
learn itself or can't grow itself. So when we come
back and experience sixty ninety years of life or hopefully more,
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that teaches universal consciousness. And when we pass back over
everything that we've learned, everything that we now understand from
that life gets transferred back to universal consciousness and allows
universal consciousness to grow. The thing about life, though, is
that it's entirely subjected to you and you alone. We
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can't read other people's minds, we can't see through their eyes,
we can't hear through their ears, and every piece of
life is an experience. It's mental more than physical. When
something happens, or we see something and let's say it's
a rock, science comes along. It says, okay, the rock
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is forty eight pounds and it's twelve inches by fifty inches,
and science has kind of switched it and made the
description of it or the measuring of it the thing.
The rock is not the measurements. You can't measure something
unless you've perceived it. First, and that perception comes from consciousness.
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So that's what makes consciousness the ontological primitive or the
basic building block, and all of life is subjective to
you and you alone. You can have similar experiences with
somebody else. They can say okay, yeah, I saw that too,
or I experienced which you experienced. But again you can't
compare the two because your human body senses are only
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available to you, and every person on the planet is
like that. For consciousness or people not embodied anymore, that's
not the case. They're sharing knowledge. That is why we
can ask one spirit any question and they can pull
back the answer for us, which is absolutely amazing to us.
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We can be talking only to one spirit and we
can say, well, you know, what's Marcello Bocci doing. Oh,
he's doing this because they're all connected, and that to
me is one of the fascinating things. But you know,
for people who are grieving from a lost loved one,
nothing's going to make that easier from a perspective of
that loss is there and it seems permanent because they
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were embodied, they were in front of you. You could
talk to them. They are still there, they are still around.
You haven't lost them. You will never lose them, and
they will be there in the future again in a
situation where you can communicate, enjoy their presence like you
did here, and probably even more so because you'll be
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lifted from the pressures of day to day life, the stresses.
But there is no true loss in life because it continues.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah. I heard once a great quote that our life
is just a thread of the fabric.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Of our soul.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
This is just a little blip, and we humans buy
into it that this is the reality. And I think
for me, one of the ways that we can disarm
that skeptical mind is to start viewing life as everything
is a miracle. Down to the Wanton level, all we
are is vibrating energy, invisible vibrating energy.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
So when we start to get down to that, we're
a mighty realistic illusion, right we are. But to start
questioning that, it starts opening up that this other stuff
can be possible and is possible.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
You are absolutely correct. And Nikola Tesla said way back,
you know, if you want to understand the universe, think
in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. And the more
we look into that and the more we understand how
it functions. I mean, people come up to us all
the time and say, how are you getting a voice?
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If they have no vocal cords? How is that even possible? Well,
if you break down how the vocals work, we create
a sound weight which consists of energy, frequency, and vibration.
That's how sound is made. And the great example of
that is plucking a entire strength. The energy is in
your finger plucking it, then it vibrates and produces sound
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through the energy and the vibration of it. If a
spirit or consciousness is energy, frequency and vibration, then producing
vocals would be no concerning whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Well, take our break now. But Tony and his wife
aren't the first people to go after afterlife communication. Some
of the greatest minds were interested in it, including Thomas Edison.
More about that in our next segment. Let's head off
to the break and we will be right back with
more of Tony Rathman and Staticicom. You're listening to Shades
(38:37):
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Speaker 4 (39:54):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and you're hearing the story of staticicom, a device that
allows two way conversation from the afterlife. You can find
out more about it at Entityvoices dot com or just
go to YouTube and search staticicom. Let's continue with Tony Rathman.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
People come up to us all the time and say,
how are you getting a voice if they have no
vocal cords? How is that even possible? Well, if you
break down how the vocals work, we create a sound weight,
which consists of energy, frequency, and vibration. That's how sound
is made. And the great example of that is plucking
an entire string. The energy is in your finger plucking it,
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then it vibrates and produces sound through the energy and
the vibration of it. If a spirit or consciousness is energy,
frequency and vibration, then producing vocals would be no concern whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Tony, this morning, I was having coffee looking outside, and
this beautiful bird just went sailing by, and I was
thinking about my two else, Wilbur and Orville. Right, and
how way back these two guys have built bicycles, had
a dream, and look.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Where we are now.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
All of the world functions on air travel, right, So
here we are Orville and Wilbur. Well, it's Tony and
Suri is how you pronounce your wife's name, Surrey correct
Suri and others that are working on it. There's great minds.
But what's possible with this? And then also, I know
in an email you spoke about maybe someday tying in
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the visuals too. What's possible for mankind?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
All boundaries we probably even haven't been able to even
reach yet knowing because we don't know where the boundaries
of this technology is, but you're absolutely right tying it
into Sonya's visual where not only can you get a
picture of them, but you can hear them speak as well.
A combination of those two would be absolutely fascinating. The
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information that comes through staticom. We've been now experimenting and
researching with it for the last three or four years.
Any piece of information that we can get that we
can then go research and find out is this factual?
Is it accurate? About ninety four percent of everything that
we were able to research is in fact the truth.
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There's a clip out on both YouTube Facebook that my
wife wasn't feeling well and I had staticom running and
she's like, Oh, I'm not feeling alarm in pain. I
literally said, spirits, is my wife getting sick? Answer was
it's possible. I said, what should she take? And then
this word came through. I didn't know the word, but
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I ended up looking it up after the word was Perkadan.
Did not know what that was. Perkadan is a prescription
strength pain reliever which you need a prescription for. But
I didn't even know what the word was, so I
had to go look it up. But sure enough it
was a prescription drug for pain and for them to
answer that. But knowing that that information we can get
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without knowing, without predetermining what's going to be said. One
of the other future that we're looking into to use
staticcom for is cold cases, because when you talk about
grief and you talk about a family missing a family member,
not knowing where they are, not knowing what happened, that
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kind of grief doubles it because you're already missing them,
they're already gone. But to be able to ask spirits
and through the research, we know that they will give
us information from the past. They will not give us
information future related. Even if I say something as simple
as I have a choice, should I do this or
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should I do that? They won't answer why because we
believe they can't affect the life we were put here
to live and to learn from. But past they will answer,
and we've been researching it. We are getting responses we want.
But to be able to help on cold cases for
people grieving about a lost love one, not knowing what happened,
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where they are, what occurred, this may be a great
help in able to solve cold cases that have been
mysteries since the forties fifties or.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Who knows what good news that is and never even
thought of that, and the futures not yet written. You know,
we have free will when we're here. I think we
come onto this planet to do certain things and learn,
and there's different opportunities that we have. And so I'm
not one hundred percent bought into that, you know the
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future is written, because that would take the fun out
of life, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I think I agree, And we were given free will
for a reason. We keep it. On the other side,
I can tell you that just by the answers that
we get, like for example, and not only is this
an example of free will, but your sense of humor
is still there. The person that you view yourself almost
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as a mirror or a shadow of yourself. The human
body is what we look like to others, but when
you think of yourself, it's more of an internal feeling
of who you are. That is what continues to exist.
But I said a very simple question, I said how
many spirits are with me? And a gentleman came back
and said three hundred, and I said three hundred, and
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then he said, yeah, she passed go, which I think
monopoly was two hundred, but I got his point. But
then I said, did you say three hundred? And the
response came back, what is that the wrong answer? Like
he was almost making fun of me. You asked me,
I told you, and it was like a comical response
of wait, why are you asking me again? Did I
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give you the wrong answer? But the whole you, as
you feel yourself now is what you're going to be
on the other side, and without a doubt exists, or
there would be no way for us to be getting
these answers. And back to your skeptic question. We have
no radio. It cannot pick up walkie talkies, statellite signals,
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cell phone signals. It has absolutely no ability to interpret
any signal floating in the airways at all into voice.
It's a white noise generator, that's it. It produces white
noise to be able to ask a question. We don't
use mics, We don't use anything. I'm speaking like I'm
speaking now minus the mics on both sides of me.
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But then I get a response that answers my question
with timing and relevance to the question asked, and intelligence
that should not be occurring. Science needs to look at
this people who study consciousness need to look at this.
People who do things like sonia. If we can connect
this method with their method, in the next ten, fifteen,
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twenty years, we might have cell phones with video imagery
to the other side or the afterlife. All of this
as possible, and people have predicted this for as long
as people searched what happens after death. They said technology
will help bridge that gap, and it is. But like
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I said before, technology is only part of it. The
person operating at your feeling and wanting to believe it
to be true is what will bring forth the evidence
to prove to you that this happens and does exist.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Tony, this is very exciting, very exciting conversation with our
time left. Is there anything else you want to share
or questions I should have asked you that I didn't
know to ask you.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
No, you've covered some great stuff. If anyone's interested in
checking this out in person, We've got a variety of events.
We're going to be in Halifax, Canada, November first in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Right, somebody's going to be listening this twenty thirty. They're
going to go, oh, what's happening? Go to the website.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
We will once we research static on three point zero
the bit more make sure it's functioning as we plan
it to be doing group sessions again and those will
be around. And the more attention this gets, the more
places we'll get to show it do live demonstrations, So
definitely check that out. The future of this is absolutely incredible.
It's something that can't be ignored anymore. That the evidence
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is so strong that this is going to change worlds views,
This is going to change use of the afterlife and hopefully,
like you said, bring comfort to those grieving the passing
of a loved one because you did not lose them.
They are still there. And one of the other very
important things is that even with technology such as staticcom
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it is great to be able to reach out and
communicate to a loved one who has passed over. But
the one thing we always say, and the most important thing,
is express that to your loved ones here and now
while they are still here, because once that passing happens,
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there's a waiting game before it's going to happen again.
So let them know that you love them, that you
missed them, that you care for them today and now.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Beautiful words beautiful words, Tony, thank you so much for
being our guest today.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
Thank you for having this was an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
It was a pleasure for sure.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Now.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
I mentioned earlier that great inventor Thomas Edison was creating
a device to also contact the afterlife. In fact, in
October of nineteen twenty, Edison announced that he was working
on this new machine that would allow people to talk
to the dead. Naturally, people were optimistic. After all, this
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was the man who decades earlier invented the light bulb
was able to first record and playback the human voice.
He also invented capturing motion pictures, along with many other
great inventions. In Edison's word, he said, I am inclined
to believe that our personnel hereafter we'll be able to
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affect matter. If this reasoning be correct, then if we
can evolve an instrument so delicate as to be affected
or manipulated by our personality as it survives in the
next life, such as an instrument when made available it
ought to record something. He also added, should he succeed,
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the first spirits to take advantage of the device would
likely be telegraphers or scientists, or anyone else with experience
in the use of delicate instruments and electric currents. If
you've watched the movie we filmed about researcher Sonia Ranaldi,
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her team on the other side are scientists. We'll be
doing a zoom presentation with Sonia Ronaldi mid March of
twenty twenty five on her latest experiments. After that date,
we will have the video replay available for you at
weedotdie dot com. Just click on the store page and
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forget on the main page at We Dontdie dot com.
Enter your name and email address at the bottom you'll
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get a copy of my book. Plus, if you're interested
in instrumental transcommunication, there could just be something very special
you'll want to see. I hope our time together today
has given you more confidence that we survive physical death
and we will see our loved ones again. I'm Sandra Champlain.
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