April 8, 2024 • 44 mins
Oliver is steering this ship all alone today and opening up like never before. While sister Kate is away at work, Oliver pours his heart out to actress Robyn Lively for a special episode of Sibling Revelry.The two talk about what it's really like to have mega famous siblings, and would they trade places with their sisters Blake Lively and Kate Hudson?Plus, Oliver goes in depth about his infidelity and why he doesn't regret what he did.And, find out the pact Robyn made with her hubbie Bart Johnson when they decided to have kids.Did either pay a price? Listen to find out.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling ravalry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Revelry. That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Hello, and welcome to solo sibling revelry. Meaning my sister
is a working stiff.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I am not. I currently am on spring break. I
am drinking a course light.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
My kids are running around, and I am filling in
for my sister, and I'm filling in.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
For just you know.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean, I feel like this should be a priority
and not her acting. But you know, we're on different
pages and that's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You know what, maybe there's a chance that I'll be
better solo. Maybe all of your writings and comments will
come in and be like, you know what, drop the
movie star, Drop the sister with eighteen billion followers, who
is seemingly the engine behind all of this, Drop her,
(01:36):
because the real goddamn talent is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
There's a real possibility that happened.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So yeah, I would appreciate comments about sort of you
know how I did, although you know what, I don't
need a fucking comment.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I know I'm good at this, you know what I mean?
I know I can do this.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And we have a really cool guest on today, or
I have a really cool guest on today.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Her name is Robin Lively. I have known her since
I was shit six years old.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
We're gonna talk about it, but she was She played
my my mom's daughter in Wildcats, and I was deeply
and madly in love with her. And I'm gonna tell
her that. And you know, I know I'm married and
have a million kids. I think she's married with a
million kids. But I just want to see if there's
(02:32):
still a shot, you know. I mean, I think there's
only a four year difference, so you never know. I
worked with her half brother. It's it's gonna be fun.
We both have sort of siblings who have reached the
pinnacle of fame and stardom and success. And you know,
let's see if she's as frustrated as.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I am that I didn't quite fucking make it. I
mean I did.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
But anyway, enough of me ranting, please welcome, Let's bring on.
Let's open the door for Robin Lively.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Holy shit, you like have not changed. You still look
young as shit, You're still beautiful as ever.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yay, thank you so much. I can't believe how long
it's been since I've seen you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, it's it's insane.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I mean, let me start by saying that I was
head over heels in love with you. I mean, oh god,
I mean I was a young boy, even though I'm
forty seven.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So what are we four years apart? Five years apart
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, okay, so obviously right now we're both adults and
old and you know, we.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Both hear death. But Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Mom did this movie, Wildcats, and then Robin was her daughter,
and I mean, man, Brandy was played your younger sister,
your age appropriate.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But I was completely in love with you. I was like,
oh my god, this is.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The sweetest thing I've ever heard. I have a vivid
memory of you and Kate out playing, like on a
swing set outside somewhere. Didn't you have cute little glasses?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah? I mean you did, right.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes, that trip, which was in Chicago is where it
was shot, was very memorable for me.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Ah, Purple Rain had just.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Come out, and oh, my god.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I was obsessed with Prince and so that album reminds
me of being in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Or they were anything, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh, I have the greatest memories on set and with
Woody was like my buddy. And it was, you know,
before cell phones. And I remember being on stage and
we all would wait for the stage phone, and I
think we had pageeros at the time. So Witty was
(05:07):
paiged by his agent and I was waiting in line
to use the phone, and he was so excited to
get stop the phone with his agent. He's like, oh
my god, I can't believe it. I just booked Cheers.
I was like, artists, Wow, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes, wow wow epic?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So what when did you get started? Like you've been
an actor for a thousand years, right, I mean at.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Least at least one thousand. When I was three.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You were three, So how did that even happen?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So my mom, my mom is a model, and she
was young she started having she she had my oldest
sister when she was nineteen, so she was really young
when she had us. So she would drag us everywhere
to all of her jobs or and I remember, I
don't remember this actually, but she told me that they were.
(05:58):
They were like, Oh, your kids are so cute, should
put them in an add with you. And then so
we started doing commercials and print. We got an agent,
and this was all in Atlanta, in Georgia, and literally
it's just all I've ever known. I think I did
my first National Network commercial when I was three, and
then a movie of the Week when I was five.
(06:19):
And then we moved when I think I was probably
like around nine.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It moved LA and then we just kept going and going.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do you navigate all that? You know what I mean?
Like you see Silets documentary.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You looked at all the kids, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Have been in the game, who were all fucked up?
You know, how do you manage? How was that managed?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Honestly, I don't know how I avoided so much of it.
I feel like I was just I mean, I was
in that circle, you know, and there was a lot
of stuff going on. I don't know how I escaped it,
all of it, all of the n City stuff that
was happening on sets. And I was really young and naive,
and I feel so fortunate that, you know, I came
(07:07):
out unscathed, you know, but it was a different time.
It was fun, and I wasn't a partier. I was
I've never been like that, so I don't think they
you know, I was welcomed into those groups and that, yeah,
you know, so I just stayed like, oh, I just
was oblivious. I had no idea, no clue.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
None, you knew what was going on around you, or
I did.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I did. I kind of did, yeah, you know. And
then and then I was really good friends with the
Cory's and that whole group, so yeah, I did know
what was going on. It was never really I was
never a part of it.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So you just put your head, put your head down
and worked.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah. And then doing that movie Wildcats with your mom
was such an angel to me, Like she just with
everything that you would imagine she would be, and then
some she was just gosh, she was so like warm
and maternal and she was joy you know, she was.
She made that experience so fantastic, so memorable. She was
(08:19):
just the best, she really was. And I wasn't blonde,
by the way. That was another nightmare, Like I had
to bleach my hair blonde so I could look like
her for a few scenes. And then they waked me
for the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah. Well, then then you dyed your hair in the movie.
You know it was a wig, right.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So like all of that for nothing. And then I
remember like the it being a big thing about Brandy
having to say a swear word, and it was like
this commotion around Okay, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I mean, can you believe how times have changed?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I know, crazy?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
How many kids do you have?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I have three kids?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
How old?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
My son is twenty one? My daughter's nineteen today, oh
and my not it's her birthday. And then our son
is sixteen. He just turned sixteen. He's driving. Went to
the store for me. Oh gosh, no, I I haven't,
but I hate it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I have sixteen, fourteen, and ten, two boys.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Little girl. Oh my gosh, oldest is driving.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He's had a girlfriend for a year. So it's like real,
it's not that kind of yeah, you know, hook up
bee whatever it is? Where where sort of buzzword is
these days?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know? Apparently there's one called skibbitty? Now all right?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh is that right? I haven't heard the son.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And now my kids like, yo, dad, like that's skibbitty
I'm like, just please shut the fuck up, Like I cannot.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I can't don't.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I can't decipher what this is anymore. You know, it's
just so funny to watch them grow up and almost
take on kind of the same stuff that we did,
you know, And.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
A lot of a lot of the style.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
These days is the same with the big baggy jeans,
you know, and the oversized.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's just come full circle.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It really has. It really has.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Is your kid in college?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So two of my kids are, so my daughter is
in New York, my son is home, and you know,
I'm not looking forward to being an emptynster at all.
I just not. I can't.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Isn't there a part of you though, that essentially you're free,
you know. I mean, not that there is any burden
on your The children put any burden on you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But you know there's.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
This moment of like, Okay, it's horrifically sad, but you
know now I can go do anything that I want
to do.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
No, you don't have that, none of it, not like
literally none of it. You wait till your kid is
out of the house and you see what that's like.
It is brutal, But do you see her all the time,
all the time, but still oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So going back and growing up. You said you grew up.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
In Atlanta, I mean grew up, yes, and no, like
I was so young when we moved to LA But
it does feel like you know, it does feel like
home to me and you.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, lots of sling You have lots of siblings. So
the blood what are you? Who are your bloods?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Who are my bloods?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Blood siblings? Not the game, not the gag.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I know you're.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Lingos. Have two brothers and two sisters, and I'm right
in the middle.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Of of the of your that's full blood. Oh wow, Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know that's weird. It's weird for me because they're
all they're my full siblings. You know, there's not one
of them that doesn't feel like a full sibling. You know,
even though we have there are two that have a
different father, they're my siblings. You know, there's nothing about
it that's like people like, oh, you're half. I'm like, no,
for that, there's nothing half about you know.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, no, I know, I know because we're similar. I mean,
Kate and I are are full and then we have
Wyatt who's half and then Boston whose step but we're.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
All your own family, yes, family.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Of course, and you guys all were able to sort
of interact and be together as siblings and as a family, because.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yes, sometimes of course steps and halves.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
It's you know, it's not as tight necessarily as if
you're I guess that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Could be for sure. I just that that wasn't our experience.
But the age gap is significant, you know, from the
oldest to the youngest. But then as you get older,
you know, that gap just closes. You start having families
and you're just there's no there's no age difference at all.
But like for a long time, my youngest siblings they
were like my babies, you know, carry them on my hip,
(13:09):
take them everywhere with me, and you know then that changed,
of course.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I worked with Eric.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Oh you did, yes, a long ass time ago, on
a movie called The Breed, which was some like horror
movie and South Asian.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Rabbit dogs.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh my, yeah, that sounds like an amazing film.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You take out. We had a good time. I will
say that, it was okay, good god, it was.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I mean we were in South Africa, we were in
our twenties, early twenties.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It was me, it was him, it was Michelle Rodriguez,
Arren Manning, Hill Harper, and it was we would go
to the bars, the clubs or whatever and just go
right to work.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, oh my god, we were just go all
night and go right to work.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And then but Eric and I connected. He was my
sort of homie on the show, you.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, but I haven't seen him since. What's his deal?
What's he doing?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Eric is doing amazing? Uh yeah, he's in LA He's
doing fantastic, you know what. I completely forgot about that.
And now I never saw the movie. I'm gonna have
to check it out now. I do remember him saying
the best things about you as well. Yeah yeah, and
are you still acting? Are you still? Are you acting still?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah? Yeah, it's uh great, it's been it's been good,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I mean, it's been a bit of a it's been
a journey obviously.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I started kind of late in my twenties, just because
it's what my family did, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I wanted to make I wanted to make move growing up.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I directed and wrote and did all that as a
child while my sister was acting and in plays. I
was with my best friend across the street who is
now my producing partners still, and we would make movies.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's what we did.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I went to Boulder for a couple of years and
knew that I wanted to be in the movie business, but.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Didn't really know where to start.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I was a PA for a while, and then I
was like, yeah, I can't go down this path.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Takes too long so for family or actors, so let
me give it a shot, you know. And I did.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And I did not take it seriously in any way whatsoever.
And I was still in college mode. I was still
kind of going out and partying, and you know, I
had this incredible opportunity, you know, just because of you know,
just where I was born, how I was born.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So the foot was in the door, and I was
just blowing it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean, I was hungover going to auditions and not
even looking at sides, you know, I was like, And
so I decided to move out of my house. I
was still living at home, in the comforts of the
childhood you know house mm hmm. And I got an
apartment with my one of my best friends, and I
could only afford like the first month the last month
(16:18):
in like three months, and I said, fuck it, let's go.
And that pressure that I put on myself sort of
led to my first real gig where I was the
lead of a show on the WB and really was.
It was called My Guide to Becoming a Rock Star and.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It went one season.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
But you know, then I did Dawson's Creek and then
I got a little deal there, and then it's sort
of you know, propelled, yeah, my career, you know. But yeah,
I've been consistently and steadily working. I just did a
show called The Cleaning Lady that's still on the air,
but I got killed and I I have a producing
deal a Fox, so I'm producing seeing stuff now.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
That's so great. I mean, the industry has changed so much,
it's insane.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Oh god, I mean, I'm it's honest, I'm in. I
wouldn't call them dire straits, but you know, when you know,
as an actor, when you have a steady job and
you're making a shit ton of money, you're affording a lifestyle.
But that is so inconsistent and drops off the base
(17:27):
of the planet like this, right, and so of course
you have rainy day stuff, but you can jam through
that pretty quickly. Yeah, and then you are sort of saying, okay,
three kids, private school, How am I doing this?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
What do I need to do?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It is it legal to sell my body? I mean
goes through all of these, you know, the podcast, Instagram,
I do ads on Instagram, you know, and right now
as an actor I've probably never been in a better
place as far as my viability goes. But because of
(18:04):
the strikes, there's just not a lot going on for me.
But apparently you have a million things you're doing.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I don't understand what happened. It's like it's been the
best thing for me. Honestly, I've not worked this much
in years. It's crazy. It's been been really great. I
would you know. So I'm recurring on Taylor Sheridan's new
show land Man with Billy Bob Thornton, Ali Larder. She's amazing,
(18:39):
She's she's Jonham just joined Inmi Demi Moore, My husband
is recurring as well on it. Really yes, wow, story, Okay,
here's a fun story. So years ago, oh gosh, like
maybe twenty more more than that long time ago. Thirty
(19:02):
years ago, Taylor Sheridan was a student in my dad's
acting class, and I think he was there for years
and years. I wasn't. I didn't go to my dad's
acting class, you know, I just would pop in here
and there. But yeah, so he was my dad's acting
class for a year or so. My husband knows him.
I don't really know him. But anyway, this came around
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and the rules were completely unrelated, like we're not a
couple or anything, and we end up getting on the
show together. And it's so how fun? Is that? So cool?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
How's it been? It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh, it's just been like I'm like pinching myself. This
is such a cool set, and well, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm excited. I'm excited to talk to you about this.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Just this is not inside baseball, but just as an
actor and you know, really digging Taylor Sheridan and him
as a writer especially you know he writes.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
He doesn't have a writing staff, do you know that?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, he just does it all.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's crazy, this endless well of what.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So what is the process like there?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I mean, you know, I've done a lot of television
sort of in the broadcast space, but are.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You running and gunning? Are you trying to make days?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Or is it slow paced and sort of saying no,
let's get this ship right and and how do how
does how does that work compared to sort of other experiences.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, okay, so I pop in here and there, so
I'm not there all the time, but I am there
for the entire day, so I do see kind of
what the pacing is like. But I get I get
the information more from like makeup and hair. They're crossboarding.
They're shooting always.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Makeup and hair have all the show always.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They know what, they know all of it. So you know,
they're doing multiple episodes at once, so I'm like, well,
what episode are we on now? What's having? Like, I
have no idea. We haven't even completed. They're not completing
the episode. They're just shooting, you know. So there's that.
It is so crazy to try to keep everything together,
(21:18):
especially for their department. But it's you know, you've got
three cameras going all the time. You do not rehearse,
you know, you just get there. Here's where you go,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, I guess we're gonna put it and here we go.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean I was like, okay, great, great, you know
it works, man, I mean, it is a well oiled machine.
And he's got a lot of his crew from Yellowstone,
so they're all.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Work cohesively together. They all know, you know, so it
just works. It's it's really really cool.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Good for you. And then you have others, you have
other stuff too going on.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So then and then I am recurring on a nine
to one loan star, so I'm doing three more episodes
of that good, which is all. And then I got
a movie and I ended up turning it down. But
I was like, this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, was it not good?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It just wasn't good. To be honest, it wasn't good.
And they weren't paying well, and I was like, well,
no one's working, maybe I should just do it. Yeah,
And then I read it and I was like no, no,
it's like no back end favored nation. We're not paying
you anything, and it's a ridiculous amount of work and
dialogue and like, I just I don't love it.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, So I I wonder how we feel about this.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You with babies, obviously, as you can tell, you know,
wanting to be an empty nester and having no excitement
for that freedom. So it tells me that you are
just you know an obsessive mother, as I am an
obsessive father, right, I am, Okay, So I have foregone
plenty of gigs in my career because of where they
(23:18):
were shooting, right, I just did. I mean, they want
you to lead on a series in Toronto. I'm like, well,
potentially six years. Like, I can't do that. I can't
be away from my children in Toronto. You know, if
it's an Albuquerque or Nashville, which I've done, I can manage.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's too far.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Almost the detriment of my career sometimes where I'm just
like you guys, like I have to I have to
just be in this place. I mean, stemming a lot
from you know, whatever I went through as a child
and my dad kind of not being there. And you know,
I have this sort of hyper sensitivity to being there
for my kids, yes, and making sure that they don't
(24:05):
feel in any way what I felt back in the day.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So you know I'm not speaking to your childhood, but
did you ever have to do that in sacrifice?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Work for that?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
My husband and we made a pact with each other
in the beginning because he's an actor as well, and
we're like we won't get an andy. We're going to
do this all ourselves, and we're going to make it work.
You know, whatever happens, we're just going to do it.
Fortunately I never had to turn down that would have
been so hard because you know, this industry is so
(24:43):
like it's not based on necessarily who's the best for
the role, especially now you know there are so many
you know, boxes that have to be checked, so it's
not about the best ever, So when you do get
those opportunities, it's like, well, how do you turn it down?
This may not come around for you know, who knows
how long.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
But I.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Never had to turn anything down like that, Like I
wish I could to say that I did, but I
never had. I never got like an offer for a
show that was was shooting, and thankfully I didn't because
that would have been really hard. But I would have
always have chosen my kids over it. Always I would
have taken them with me, or we were like, what
are we going to do if we now the kids
(25:27):
are in school. This was when they were in like
elementary school, like this would be easier, But it just
worked out. I didn't never got anything that and I
had to make that decision. To like turn down a
big role. But if I'm working, rarely are we working
at the same time. It just doesn't ever work out
that way. So when I'm working, he holds down the
(25:50):
fort and vice versa. So it's been great.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, and now they're a lot older, so you don't
have to worry about it, that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Now, I don't have to worry about it. So I'll
think it was But that do you ever do you
regret any of those jobs that you are like, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Know, I mean, regret is an interesting word, right, I'm
not sure I have many regrets because if I didn't,
you know, it was a choice that I made, whether
it be a positive one or a negative one, which
I've made.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Some horrible, horrible choices in my life just generally.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Now you would think that you would say, oh, I
regret doing that, but I don't know where who I
would be if.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I didn't, right, right, exactly?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Of course, I mean you look back and you know
we've I've talked about it, you know before. But you know,
when I got engaged, I something happened psychologically and I spiraled,
you know what I mean, And I was unfaithful and
I was cheating and I was crazy and.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, and she stuck with you. Well, I told she
I never got caught.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I told her everything because I couldn't live with myself
and you know, get married and be married and have
children with this sort of weight. I was taking silkwood showers.
You know, I was crying and be like, oh my God,
like who am I? But then going off and having
a drink or whatever. So there was something happening to
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me psychologically that I had to sort of get through.
I told her everything, and she's an amazing woman, you know,
and my mother played a big part in it as well.
Where you know, it's about looking at the entirety and
the totality of the relationship, not just the action, even
though it might seem extreme. Let's dig in a little
(27:47):
bit into why and looking at the whole person rather
than this one affliction. And because I'm a good man,
there's no doubt malicious and all that I was going through.
Whatever I was going through. Yeah, and we were able
to sort of therapy and you know, do all of
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it and get through it. And honestly, if that didn't happen,
I don't know what kind of a person I would be.
You know, So do I regret it? I mean no,
I guess not.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Of course, Yeah, no I regret because where would you pain? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't want to cause anyone any pain.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
But but you grew.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh yeah, oh gosh, I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You became a different person because of that experience.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think some of our you know, although some choices
might be bad, if you can sort of come out
the other end of them and learn from why they
were bad and how that affected you and anyone else
around you, then you're only growing and you're building your toolbox,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
If everything was fucking rainbows and roses, then well, who
are you?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Right? Not very interesting for her?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, So you know, regret is an interesting word. But
I mean, honestly, like you know, I.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I have, there's parts of me that wish I was
further along, that wish that I chose career.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
A little bit more over fun.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
You know, you know, I look at my sister, my brother,
you know, you you have Blake, But you guys are
so far apart, and of course you're very six, you know,
Happer for her career.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
As I am with my siblings.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
But there's always a part of me that's just like, fuck, man,
why can't I do that?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Why can't I?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I want to do a role like that. I want
to work with people like that. I I want to
I want to make that kind of money. I don't
want to be hustling for everything, you know, right, Not
not that it takes away from how I feel about
them and my love for them and.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
My gratitude and and how happy I'm.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
For the success, but I I fuck, I'm I'm not
afraid to admit that I have envy.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It's just damn yeah, oh you know, yeah it's there.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, I totally understand that for sure. But that hustle
is real, Like my sister's life is. It's a lot,
you know, it's a lot of work to maintain that,
you know, it really is. And she really was, like
of all of us, she was the most unexpected one
(30:29):
to hit that kind of fame because she's so shy.
She was very shy, and so it just happened, like
it just happened, and not believe it, no, no, but
she and I are like, she's my best friend, you know,
we are so close.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, you know, I look at my sister too, and
I'm like, well, I don't want to have give me.
I'll take your money, Kate, but I don't want to
have that kind of fame necessary that is.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
It is. And I don't know what your sisters, your
sister's lighted like, but like I look at my sister
and she's a mama bear, you know, like that is.
There is nothing more important to both of them than
their family. Their family comes first, and they managed to
really like balance it. Well, It's just it's a totally
(31:23):
different life. It's a totally different world, you know. Yeah,
And I do think like I don't know if I
can handle it. I really don't. But do I have
those same feelings like oh, oh she's getting to work
with SO and so. Oh that's so amazing. But honestly,
I am so proud of her. You know, everything that
she's gotten and that she has she's earned. So there's
(31:45):
not that I don't have that piece where I'm envious
and wishing it were me in a sense that in
a healthy way, you know, like I do like, oh
I would die to work with so and so. You
know that I do because you know, I've been in
this industry for so long and I've worked with some
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people that have been amazing, and I'm like, oh gosh,
what would it be like to work with someone like that,
you know, like really work with something like that, because
you know, I mean I do independence too, And sometimes
I go back to my trailer and I'm like, oh,
this is horrible when you do those low budget indies
where people just are clueless. Yeah, I just want to
(32:28):
kill yourself. You're like, what am I doing? I've been
in this industry for how long? Why am I doing this?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Oh my god? I did this independent movie. It was
a long time ago, but like it was called The Smokers,
And we were in Kenosha, Wisconsin. And I get to
set and the makeup person is there and she is
not trained in standard makeups. She's an effects makeup person, right,
(32:57):
And I'm sure the budget on this movie is like
three and a half dollars And I'm like, okay, So
we have no trailers. So they're doing the makeup outside
and you know, I'm talking with my friends and doing
doing the makeup. She's like, all right, all done. I'm like, okay, cool.
I'm cruising around.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
No I haven't I haven't shot yet.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
But I'm like, I go pee and I go pee
and I look in the mirror to wash my hands,
and it's I have like I look like a mime.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's white.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's like, oh, it's white, white, white, like clown white.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I'm like, what the fuck is no? I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I started laughing in the mirror because it was so
insane that I was like hysterically laughing. So I just
washed my face off and then I said, you know what,
I'm good. I don't need makeup anymore on the show.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
We're fine. I'm twenty two years old or twenty three, Like,
my skin is.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Fine, Like, let's just skip this process.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh no, that is the worst thing I've ever heard.
But I can totally relate. My husband. We did another movie.
We did a movie together at one point. Again it
was like this one was didn't have a great budget,
and the same thing. He came out and I said,
what is happening. Don't let them do that to your face? Right,
(34:18):
Like what the heuse it? No, I'm like, wipe it off.
You don't need your face is like white. Yeah, it's horrible.
It's horrible. But he wouldn't have known, you know, you know,
he's just like, okay, cool.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
A by the way, how awesome are those experiences as well?
Speaker 5 (34:46):
So they're amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I look at Kate and I look at Wyatt and
you know, and again all this to say that I
I am so grateful for my career.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I've had an awesome career. You know, there's no time
about it. But you know, you look at them and
they work with us like cool creative people where you
can dig into shit.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I looked pretty much broadcast TV, where it's like bang,
bang bang. You get two takes and if you ask
for a third, like you know, it's just like, oh shit, okay,
changed the die, Like it's just bang. And then I
talked to Kate and why were they almost famous as
band practice? And then why it is rehearsing for three
(35:26):
weeks for this movie?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Can you imagine rehearsing for three weeks?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
No, oh my god, I'd probably win Emmys and Academy Awards.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Totally. I'm like, I'm just like showing up on set
with a script that had just changed three hours ago.
I'm like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
But looking back at all those independent movies too, I
had so much fun. I mean as a young kid.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, strange movies and Kenosha, Wisconsin and all over the
country and these weird ass places.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I mean, I had such a blast every.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Every they are, even the bad ones, like you're saying,
even the bad ones. I'm going to tell you this
one other one, another independent I did where I'm not
kidding the first a D. It was when we had
women were it was just primarily the whole crew. It
was just a crew full of women, and she was
our first a D. Didn't have a clue what she
was doing. And my girl literally sat herself basically in
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the scene with us, sat down on an apple box
so she could watch the show her snacks. And I
was like, you know, you guys, do we not know
just not you know, literally sat on an apple box
and just eating her snacks, watch just watching the show.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
She's enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
But those you just gotta laugh.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, yes, yes, oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
But and so so you know that, uh so Ryan.
I met Ryan a long long time ago. I wrote
a script called Stardom Dumb and this is before he
was anything.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And then he, you know, was going to do it,
and we didn't.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
We didn't end up even making the movie. And then
my wife actually dated him for like six months.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
She did.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, her name at the time, HER's Aaron, husband was
Aaron Bartlett Bartlett and uh yes, said he's the greatest
person in the world.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I fucking loved him.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I just saw him actually speaking engagement and but he
is someone who I would try to emulate, honestly. Yes,
I just love his soul and his heart and his
humor and his intellect of this business.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And he's got such a unique tone. You know. Ryan
is definitely someone to sort of like look up to.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
And he seems like an amazing father, you know, amazing Yeah,
and husband, husband, and their relationship is amazing, so cute,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
They're good to each other.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
They yeah, they're real like example, yeah for sure, yep,
ye for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah he is. He is all of those things and
then some for sure. And that dude works hard, oh my,
and and prioritizes his family. You love everything, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Else, which I think you have to do.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You know, it's easy to screw up your children in
this kind of a business.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
There's no doubt about it, you.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Know, right. Yeah, that's what he's been really smart.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, He's a good dude, a good dude. It's been
really cool to see going from like Green Lantern to
now has been unbelievable to see, like how his career
and all of it. He's just so smart.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, he has.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Everything that he's doing so smart.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
He's a branding genius too, Yeah he is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Did you ever do you and your husband ever get
jealous that you're both you're both actors and whether you
have scenes and you know, is there any sort of
hesitancere or jealousy when it comes to all that.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Like with the two of us.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah, yeah, meaning like you have a love interest on
a show, or he's got to do this, or is
it you know, Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
You know you're going to think I'm just making all
this up, like it hasn't really been a thing. Like
we haven't had which is so bizarre, Like you would
think that we would be faced with that kind of stuff.
That all of those kinds of things happened in my twenties,
so I mean it could still happen, but we haven't
really been faced with anything like that yet. But you know,
(40:02):
we've got twenty five years under our belt now.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Though of marriage.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yes, Wow, but I can't imagine twenty five in September.
But I can't. I wouldn't. I don't think I would
love it, you know, right, I love it?
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Are you in La now?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah? In La?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I want to get out of here. I mean I'm
in the desert right now, but kind of over La.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Everybody is. I think we're going to We're going to
peace out too, are you really well? I mean there's
no point like there's there are no in person auditions anymore, so.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Exactly, and the babies are gone, so this is what's
allowing you the opportunity to leave.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So yeah, my kids are so ingrained. They have their
friends and.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I could never do that now, not yet, you can't.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I know. Do you still keep in touch with Woody
at all?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Or no? I wish he Woody was When I think
back on that film, the people that I was the
closest to it was Woody. He's friends with Nick. Oh
my god, but really it was Woody.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Nick was great, but it was really Wooty was my buddy. Yeah,
he was my bud. And then no, I don't. I
haven't seen him. I could. I don't even remember. Last
for my Tom how old?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
How old? Were you in that movie thirteen thirteen? His brother?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Do you remember his brother? He would always bring his
brother on set.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
No, oh really, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, he was really close with his brother. His name
was like Bret or Brent or something like that.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Thirty So I was seven eight. Wow, crazy, And this
is the first time that we've seen him talk to
each other literally since then.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
I can't believe it. I really can't believe it. That
movie was so so much fun, that was such a
I took it for granted. I didn't know, you know,
I was young, and just like, oh god, I got
a movie, and yeah, you know, I have no idea.
Just used to working, and I mean to this day,
I there's not even the bad ones. I'm like, it's
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such a gift to still do what I love, to
be able to still do what I love and like
never had a regular job, Like that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah lucky.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I love what I do, like I love every every
bit of it. I just love it. I can't imagine
ever doing something.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well, you won't. You've got you have like eighty jobs
right now. Okay, so not only now, not only am
I envious with my sister and my brother, but now you.
I need a goddamn job. So you know, yeah, Robin
talked to some people. I will talk to some people.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Me up, I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
All right, Well, it was good talking to you. It's
really fun. I appreciate you fun.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Oh my gosh, I'm so happy when I got the calls.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Like, yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I talked to Mom too. She's here in the desert
with me.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I'm like, oh my god, I'm talking to Rob and
she's like, holy sh you to.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Tell her I still have let her know. She gave
me a little gold whistle, a little and I still
have it. But she was just the youngiest.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, she's the best, you know, the best. Well, good
luck with everything, you know what, Maybe now one day
we'll work together.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I have a weird feeling.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Feeling. Yeah, and then you'll get.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
To see what an incredible actor I actually am.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
And then I'm going to go away. Way more talented
than them. They just got lucky. Okay, they just got lucky.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I've got way more talent than Kate, Mom, Kurt, everyone combined.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
They're just luckier. That's the way I deal with my pain.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
I really hope that we do wouldn't that becoming fun.
Let's make it happen.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
We will to do it, will manifest it, as they
say these days, let's.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Do it all over. Well, you have grown up. You
were so cute, you were dull then I didn't have
a crush on you then just because you're way too young.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
But that's okay. There's still time. There's still time.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I was so gad to talk to you.
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling ravalry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Revelry. That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Hello, and welcome to solo sibling revelry. Meaning my sister
is a working stiff.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I am not. I currently am on spring break. I
am drinking a course light.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
My kids are running around, and I am filling in
for my sister, and I'm filling in.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
For just you know.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean, I feel like this should be a priority
and not her acting. But you know, we're on different
pages and that's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You know what, maybe there's a chance that I'll be
better solo. Maybe all of your writings and comments will
come in and be like, you know what, drop the
movie star, Drop the sister with eighteen billion followers, who
is seemingly the engine behind all of this, Drop her,
(01:36):
because the real goddamn talent is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
There's a real possibility that happened.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So yeah, I would appreciate comments about sort of you
know how I did, although you know what, I don't
need a fucking comment.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I know I'm good at this, you know what I mean?
I know I can do this.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
And we have a really cool guest on today, or
I have a really cool guest on today.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Her name is Robin Lively. I have known her since
I was shit six years old.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
We're gonna talk about it, but she was She played
my my mom's daughter in Wildcats, and I was deeply
and madly in love with her. And I'm gonna tell
her that. And you know, I know I'm married and
have a million kids. I think she's married with a
million kids. But I just want to see if there's
(02:32):
still a shot, you know. I mean, I think there's
only a four year difference, so you never know. I
worked with her half brother. It's it's gonna be fun.
We both have sort of siblings who have reached the
pinnacle of fame and stardom and success. And you know,
let's see if she's as frustrated as.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I am that I didn't quite fucking make it. I
mean I did.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
But anyway, enough of me ranting, please welcome, Let's bring on.
Let's open the door for Robin Lively.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'm amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Holy shit, you like have not changed. You still look
young as shit, You're still beautiful as ever.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yay, thank you so much. I can't believe how long
it's been since I've seen you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, it's it's insane.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I mean, let me start by saying that I was
head over heels in love with you. I mean, oh god,
I mean I was a young boy, even though I'm
forty seven.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So what are we four years apart? Five years apart
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, okay, so obviously right now we're both adults and
old and you know, we.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Both hear death. But Wildcats.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Mom did this movie, Wildcats, and then Robin was her daughter,
and I mean, man, Brandy was played your younger sister,
your age appropriate.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But I was completely in love with you. I was like,
oh my god, this is.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The sweetest thing I've ever heard. I have a vivid
memory of you and Kate out playing, like on a
swing set outside somewhere. Didn't you have cute little glasses?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah? I mean you did, right.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes, that trip, which was in Chicago is where it
was shot, was very memorable for me.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Ah, Purple Rain had just.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Come out, and oh, my god.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I was obsessed with Prince and so that album reminds
me of being in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Or they were anything, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Oh, I have the greatest memories on set and with
Woody was like my buddy. And it was, you know,
before cell phones. And I remember being on stage and
we all would wait for the stage phone, and I
think we had pageeros at the time. So Witty was
(05:07):
paiged by his agent and I was waiting in line
to use the phone, and he was so excited to
get stop the phone with his agent. He's like, oh
my god, I can't believe it. I just booked Cheers.
I was like, artists, Wow, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes, wow wow epic?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So what when did you get started? Like you've been
an actor for a thousand years, right, I mean at.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Least at least one thousand. When I was three.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You were three, So how did that even happen?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So my mom, my mom is a model, and she
was young she started having she she had my oldest
sister when she was nineteen, so she was really young
when she had us. So she would drag us everywhere
to all of her jobs or and I remember, I
don't remember this actually, but she told me that they were.
(05:58):
They were like, Oh, your kids are so cute, should
put them in an add with you. And then so
we started doing commercials and print. We got an agent,
and this was all in Atlanta, in Georgia, and literally
it's just all I've ever known. I think I did
my first National Network commercial when I was three, and
then a movie of the Week when I was five.
(06:19):
And then we moved when I think I was probably
like around nine.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It moved LA and then we just kept going and going.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do you navigate all that? You know what I mean?
Like you see Silets documentary.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You looked at all the kids, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Have been in the game, who were all fucked up?
You know, how do you manage? How was that managed?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Honestly, I don't know how I avoided so much of it.
I feel like I was just I mean, I was
in that circle, you know, and there was a lot
of stuff going on. I don't know how I escaped it,
all of it, all of the n City stuff that
was happening on sets. And I was really young and naive,
and I feel so fortunate that, you know, I came
(07:07):
out unscathed, you know, but it was a different time.
It was fun, and I wasn't a partier. I was
I've never been like that, so I don't think they
you know, I was welcomed into those groups and that, yeah,
you know, so I just stayed like, oh, I just
was oblivious. I had no idea, no clue.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
None, you knew what was going on around you, or
I did.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I did. I kind of did, yeah, you know. And
then and then I was really good friends with the
Cory's and that whole group, so yeah, I did know
what was going on. It was never really I was
never a part of it.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So you just put your head, put your head down
and worked.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah. And then doing that movie Wildcats with your mom
was such an angel to me, Like she just with
everything that you would imagine she would be, and then
some she was just gosh, she was so like warm
and maternal and she was joy you know, she was.
She made that experience so fantastic, so memorable. She was
(08:19):
just the best, she really was. And I wasn't blonde,
by the way. That was another nightmare, Like I had
to bleach my hair blonde so I could look like
her for a few scenes. And then they waked me
for the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah. Well, then then you dyed your hair in the movie.
You know it was a wig, right.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So like all of that for nothing. And then I
remember like the it being a big thing about Brandy
having to say a swear word, and it was like
this commotion around Okay, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I mean, can you believe how times have changed?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I know, crazy?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
How many kids do you have?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I have three kids?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
How old?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
My son is twenty one? My daughter's nineteen today, oh
and my not it's her birthday. And then our son
is sixteen. He just turned sixteen. He's driving. Went to
the store for me. Oh gosh, no, I I haven't,
but I hate it.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I have sixteen, fourteen, and ten, two boys.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Little girl. Oh my gosh, oldest is driving.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He's had a girlfriend for a year. So it's like real,
it's not that kind of yeah, you know, hook up
bee whatever it is? Where where sort of buzzword is
these days?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know? Apparently there's one called skibbitty? Now all right?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Oh is that right? I haven't heard the son.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
And now my kids like, yo, dad, like that's skibbitty
I'm like, just please shut the fuck up, Like I cannot.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I can't don't.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I can't decipher what this is anymore. You know, it's
just so funny to watch them grow up and almost
take on kind of the same stuff that we did,
you know, And.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
A lot of a lot of the style.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
These days is the same with the big baggy jeans,
you know, and the oversized.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's just come full circle.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It really has. It really has.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Is your kid in college?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So two of my kids are, so my daughter is
in New York, my son is home, and you know,
I'm not looking forward to being an emptynster at all.
I just not. I can't.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Isn't there a part of you though, that essentially you're free,
you know. I mean, not that there is any burden
on your The children put any burden on you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But you know there's.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
This moment of like, Okay, it's horrifically sad, but you
know now I can go do anything that I want
to do.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
No, you don't have that, none of it, not like
literally none of it. You wait till your kid is
out of the house and you see what that's like.
It is brutal, But do you see her all the time,
all the time, but still oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So going back and growing up. You said you grew up.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
In Atlanta, I mean grew up, yes, and no, like
I was so young when we moved to LA But
it does feel like you know, it does feel like
home to me and you.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, lots of sling You have lots of siblings. So
the blood what are you? Who are your bloods?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Who are my bloods?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Blood siblings? Not the game, not the gag.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I know you're.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Lingos. Have two brothers and two sisters, and I'm right
in the middle.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Of of the of your that's full blood. Oh wow, Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know that's weird. It's weird for me because they're
all they're my full siblings. You know, there's not one
of them that doesn't feel like a full sibling. You know,
even though we have there are two that have a
different father, they're my siblings. You know, there's nothing about
it that's like people like, oh, you're half. I'm like, no,
for that, there's nothing half about you know.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, no, I know, I know because we're similar. I mean,
Kate and I are are full and then we have
Wyatt who's half and then Boston whose step but we're.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
All your own family, yes, family.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Of course, and you guys all were able to sort
of interact and be together as siblings and as a family, because.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yes, sometimes of course steps and halves.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
It's you know, it's not as tight necessarily as if
you're I guess that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Could be for sure. I just that that wasn't our experience.
But the age gap is significant, you know, from the
oldest to the youngest. But then as you get older,
you know, that gap just closes. You start having families
and you're just there's no there's no age difference at all.
But like for a long time, my youngest siblings they
were like my babies, you know, carry them on my hip,
(13:09):
take them everywhere with me, and you know then that changed,
of course.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I worked with Eric.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Oh you did, yes, a long ass time ago, on
a movie called The Breed, which was some like horror
movie and South Asian.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Rabbit dogs.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh my, yeah, that sounds like an amazing film.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
You take out. We had a good time. I will
say that, it was okay, good god, it was.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I mean we were in South Africa, we were in
our twenties, early twenties.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It was me, it was him, it was Michelle Rodriguez,
Arren Manning, Hill Harper, and it was we would go
to the bars, the clubs or whatever and just go
right to work.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean, oh my god, we were just go all
night and go right to work.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And then but Eric and I connected. He was my
sort of homie on the show, you.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, but I haven't seen him since. What's his deal?
What's he doing?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Eric is doing amazing? Uh yeah, he's in LA He's
doing fantastic, you know what. I completely forgot about that.
And now I never saw the movie. I'm gonna have
to check it out now. I do remember him saying
the best things about you as well. Yeah yeah, and
are you still acting? Are you still? Are you acting still?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah? Yeah, it's uh great, it's been it's been good,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I mean, it's been a bit of a it's been
a journey obviously.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I started kind of late in my twenties, just because
it's what my family did, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I wanted to make I wanted to make move growing up.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I directed and wrote and did all that as a
child while my sister was acting and in plays. I
was with my best friend across the street who is
now my producing partners still, and we would make movies.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's what we did.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I went to Boulder for a couple of years and
knew that I wanted to be in the movie business, but.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Didn't really know where to start.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I was a PA for a while, and then I
was like, yeah, I can't go down this path.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Takes too long so for family or actors, so let
me give it a shot, you know. And I did.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And I did not take it seriously in any way whatsoever.
And I was still in college mode. I was still
kind of going out and partying, and you know, I
had this incredible opportunity, you know, just because of you know,
just where I was born, how I was born.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So the foot was in the door, and I was
just blowing it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean, I was hungover going to auditions and not
even looking at sides, you know, I was like, And
so I decided to move out of my house. I
was still living at home, in the comforts of the
childhood you know house mm hmm. And I got an
apartment with my one of my best friends, and I
could only afford like the first month the last month
(16:18):
in like three months, and I said, fuck it, let's go.
And that pressure that I put on myself sort of
led to my first real gig where I was the
lead of a show on the WB and really was.
It was called My Guide to Becoming a Rock Star and.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It went one season.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
But you know, then I did Dawson's Creek and then
I got a little deal there, and then it's sort
of you know, propelled, yeah, my career, you know. But yeah,
I've been consistently and steadily working. I just did a
show called The Cleaning Lady that's still on the air,
but I got killed and I I have a producing
deal a Fox, so I'm producing seeing stuff now.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
That's so great. I mean, the industry has changed so much,
it's insane.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Oh god, I mean, I'm it's honest, I'm in. I
wouldn't call them dire straits, but you know, when you know,
as an actor, when you have a steady job and
you're making a shit ton of money, you're affording a lifestyle.
But that is so inconsistent and drops off the base
(17:27):
of the planet like this, right, and so of course
you have rainy day stuff, but you can jam through
that pretty quickly. Yeah, and then you are sort of saying, okay,
three kids, private school, How am I doing this?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
What do I need to do?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It is it legal to sell my body? I mean
goes through all of these, you know, the podcast, Instagram,
I do ads on Instagram, you know, and right now
as an actor I've probably never been in a better
place as far as my viability goes. But because of
(18:04):
the strikes, there's just not a lot going on for me.
But apparently you have a million things you're doing.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I don't understand what happened. It's like it's been the
best thing for me. Honestly, I've not worked this much
in years. It's crazy. It's been been really great. I
would you know. So I'm recurring on Taylor Sheridan's new
show land Man with Billy Bob Thornton, Ali Larder. She's amazing,
(18:39):
She's she's Jonham just joined Inmi Demi Moore, My husband
is recurring as well on it. Really yes, wow, story, Okay,
here's a fun story. So years ago, oh gosh, like
maybe twenty more more than that long time ago. Thirty
(19:02):
years ago, Taylor Sheridan was a student in my dad's
acting class, and I think he was there for years
and years. I wasn't. I didn't go to my dad's
acting class, you know, I just would pop in here
and there. But yeah, so he was my dad's acting
class for a year or so. My husband knows him.
I don't really know him. But anyway, this came around
(19:24):
and the rules were completely unrelated, like we're not a
couple or anything, and we end up getting on the
show together. And it's so how fun? Is that? So cool?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
How's it been? It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh, it's just been like I'm like pinching myself. This
is such a cool set, and well, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm excited. I'm excited to talk to you about this.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Just this is not inside baseball, but just as an
actor and you know, really digging Taylor Sheridan and him
as a writer especially you know he writes.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
He doesn't have a writing staff, do you know that?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, he just does it all.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's crazy, this endless well of what.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So what is the process like there?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I mean, you know, I've done a lot of television
sort of in the broadcast space, but are.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You running and gunning? Are you trying to make days?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Or is it slow paced and sort of saying no,
let's get this ship right and and how do how
does how does that work compared to sort of other experiences.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, okay, so I pop in here and there, so
I'm not there all the time, but I am there
for the entire day, so I do see kind of
what the pacing is like. But I get I get
the information more from like makeup and hair. They're crossboarding.
They're shooting always.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Makeup and hair have all the show always.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They know what, they know all of it. So you know,
they're doing multiple episodes at once, so I'm like, well,
what episode are we on now? What's having? Like, I
have no idea. We haven't even completed. They're not completing
the episode. They're just shooting, you know. So there's that.
It is so crazy to try to keep everything together,
(21:18):
especially for their department. But it's you know, you've got
three cameras going all the time. You do not rehearse,
you know, you just get there. Here's where you go,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, I guess we're gonna put it and here we go.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean I was like, okay, great, great, you know
it works, man, I mean, it is a well oiled machine.
And he's got a lot of his crew from Yellowstone,
so they're all.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Work cohesively together. They all know, you know, so it
just works. It's it's really really cool.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Good for you. And then you have others, you have
other stuff too going on.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So then and then I am recurring on a nine
to one loan star, so I'm doing three more episodes
of that good, which is all. And then I got
a movie and I ended up turning it down. But
I was like, this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, was it not good?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It just wasn't good. To be honest, it wasn't good.
And they weren't paying well, and I was like, well,
no one's working, maybe I should just do it. Yeah,
And then I read it and I was like no, no,
it's like no back end favored nation. We're not paying
you anything, and it's a ridiculous amount of work and
dialogue and like, I just I don't love it.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, So I I wonder how we feel about this.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You with babies, obviously, as you can tell, you know,
wanting to be an empty nester and having no excitement
for that freedom. So it tells me that you are
just you know an obsessive mother, as I am an
obsessive father, right, I am, Okay, So I have foregone
plenty of gigs in my career because of where they
(23:18):
were shooting, right, I just did. I mean, they want
you to lead on a series in Toronto. I'm like, well,
potentially six years. Like, I can't do that. I can't
be away from my children in Toronto. You know, if
it's an Albuquerque or Nashville, which I've done, I can manage.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's too far.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Almost the detriment of my career sometimes where I'm just
like you guys, like I have to I have to
just be in this place. I mean, stemming a lot
from you know, whatever I went through as a child
and my dad kind of not being there. And you know,
I have this sort of hyper sensitivity to being there
for my kids, yes, and making sure that they don't
(24:05):
feel in any way what I felt back in the day.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So you know I'm not speaking to your childhood, but
did you ever have to do that in sacrifice?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Work for that?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
My husband and we made a pact with each other
in the beginning because he's an actor as well, and
we're like we won't get an andy. We're going to
do this all ourselves, and we're going to make it work.
You know, whatever happens, we're just going to do it.
Fortunately I never had to turn down that would have
been so hard because you know, this industry is so
(24:43):
like it's not based on necessarily who's the best for
the role, especially now you know there are so many
you know, boxes that have to be checked, so it's
not about the best ever, So when you do get
those opportunities, it's like, well, how do you turn it down?
This may not come around for you know, who knows
how long.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
But I.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Never had to turn anything down like that, Like I
wish I could to say that I did, but I
never had. I never got like an offer for a
show that was was shooting, and thankfully I didn't because
that would have been really hard. But I would have
always have chosen my kids over it. Always I would
have taken them with me, or we were like, what
are we going to do if we now the kids
(25:27):
are in school. This was when they were in like
elementary school, like this would be easier, But it just
worked out. I didn't never got anything that and I
had to make that decision. To like turn down a
big role. But if I'm working, rarely are we working
at the same time. It just doesn't ever work out
that way. So when I'm working, he holds down the
(25:50):
fort and vice versa. So it's been great.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, and now they're a lot older, so you don't
have to worry about it, that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Now, I don't have to worry about it. So I'll
think it was But that do you ever do you
regret any of those jobs that you are like, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Know, I mean, regret is an interesting word, right, I'm
not sure I have many regrets because if I didn't,
you know, it was a choice that I made, whether
it be a positive one or a negative one, which
I've made.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Some horrible, horrible choices in my life just generally.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Now you would think that you would say, oh, I
regret doing that, but I don't know where who I
would be if.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I didn't, right, right, exactly?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Of course, I mean you look back and you know
we've I've talked about it, you know before. But you know,
when I got engaged, I something happened psychologically and I spiraled,
you know what I mean, And I was unfaithful and
I was cheating and I was crazy and.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, and she stuck with you. Well, I told she
I never got caught.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I told her everything because I couldn't live with myself
and you know, get married and be married and have
children with this sort of weight. I was taking silkwood showers.
You know, I was crying and be like, oh my God,
like who am I? But then going off and having
a drink or whatever. So there was something happening to
(27:24):
me psychologically that I had to sort of get through.
I told her everything, and she's an amazing woman, you know,
and my mother played a big part in it as well.
Where you know, it's about looking at the entirety and
the totality of the relationship, not just the action, even
though it might seem extreme. Let's dig in a little
(27:47):
bit into why and looking at the whole person rather
than this one affliction. And because I'm a good man,
there's no doubt malicious and all that I was going through.
Whatever I was going through. Yeah, and we were able
to sort of therapy and you know, do all of
(28:07):
it and get through it. And honestly, if that didn't happen,
I don't know what kind of a person I would be.
You know, So do I regret it? I mean no,
I guess not.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Of course, Yeah, no I regret because where would you pain? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't want to cause anyone any pain.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
But but you grew.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh yeah, oh gosh, I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You became a different person because of that experience.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think some of our you know, although some choices
might be bad, if you can sort of come out
the other end of them and learn from why they
were bad and how that affected you and anyone else
around you, then you're only growing and you're building your toolbox,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
If everything was fucking rainbows and roses, then well, who
are you?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Right? Not very interesting for her?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, So you know, regret is an interesting word. But
I mean, honestly, like you know, I.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I have, there's parts of me that wish I was
further along, that wish that I chose career.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
A little bit more over fun.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
You know, you know, I look at my sister, my brother,
you know, you you have Blake, But you guys are
so far apart, and of course you're very six, you know,
Happer for her career.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
As I am with my siblings.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
But there's always a part of me that's just like, fuck, man,
why can't I do that?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Why can't I?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I want to do a role like that. I want
to work with people like that. I I want to
I want to make that kind of money. I don't
want to be hustling for everything, you know, right, Not
not that it takes away from how I feel about
them and my love for them and.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
My gratitude and and how happy I'm.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
For the success, but I I fuck, I'm I'm not
afraid to admit that I have envy.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
It's just damn yeah, oh you know, yeah it's there.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, I totally understand that for sure. But that hustle
is real, Like my sister's life is. It's a lot,
you know, it's a lot of work to maintain that,
you know, it really is. And she really was, like
of all of us, she was the most unexpected one
(30:29):
to hit that kind of fame because she's so shy.
She was very shy, and so it just happened, like
it just happened, and not believe it, no, no, but
she and I are like, she's my best friend, you know,
we are so close.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, you know, I look at my sister too, and
I'm like, well, I don't want to have give me.
I'll take your money, Kate, but I don't want to
have that kind of fame necessary that is.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
It is. And I don't know what your sisters, your
sister's lighted like, but like I look at my sister
and she's a mama bear, you know, like that is.
There is nothing more important to both of them than
their family. Their family comes first, and they managed to
really like balance it. Well, It's just it's a totally
(31:23):
different life. It's a totally different world, you know. Yeah,
And I do think like I don't know if I
can handle it. I really don't. But do I have
those same feelings like oh, oh she's getting to work
with SO and so. Oh that's so amazing. But honestly,
I am so proud of her. You know, everything that
she's gotten and that she has she's earned. So there's
(31:45):
not that I don't have that piece where I'm envious
and wishing it were me in a sense that in
a healthy way, you know, like I do like, oh
I would die to work with so and so. You
know that I do because you know, I've been in
this industry for so long and I've worked with some
(32:06):
people that have been amazing, and I'm like, oh gosh,
what would it be like to work with someone like that,
you know, like really work with something like that, because
you know, I mean I do independence too, And sometimes
I go back to my trailer and I'm like, oh,
this is horrible when you do those low budget indies
where people just are clueless. Yeah, I just want to
(32:28):
kill yourself. You're like, what am I doing? I've been
in this industry for how long? Why am I doing this?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Oh my god? I did this independent movie. It was
a long time ago, but like it was called The Smokers,
And we were in Kenosha, Wisconsin. And I get to
set and the makeup person is there and she is
not trained in standard makeups. She's an effects makeup person, right,
(32:57):
And I'm sure the budget on this movie is like
three and a half dollars And I'm like, okay, So
we have no trailers. So they're doing the makeup outside
and you know, I'm talking with my friends and doing
doing the makeup. She's like, all right, all done. I'm like, okay, cool.
I'm cruising around.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
No I haven't I haven't shot yet.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
But I'm like, I go pee and I go pee
and I look in the mirror to wash my hands,
and it's I have like I look like a mime.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's white.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's like, oh, it's white, white, white, like clown white.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
I'm like, what the fuck is no? I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I started laughing in the mirror because it was so
insane that I was like hysterically laughing. So I just
washed my face off and then I said, you know what,
I'm good. I don't need makeup anymore on the show.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
We're fine. I'm twenty two years old or twenty three, Like,
my skin is.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Fine, Like, let's just skip this process.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh no, that is the worst thing I've ever heard.
But I can totally relate. My husband. We did another movie.
We did a movie together at one point. Again it
was like this one was didn't have a great budget,
and the same thing. He came out and I said,
what is happening. Don't let them do that to your face? Right,
(34:18):
Like what the heuse it? No, I'm like, wipe it off.
You don't need your face is like white. Yeah, it's horrible.
It's horrible. But he wouldn't have known, you know, you know,
he's just like, okay, cool.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
A by the way, how awesome are those experiences as well?
Speaker 5 (34:46):
So they're amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I look at Kate and I look at Wyatt and
you know, and again all this to say that I
I am so grateful for my career.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I've had an awesome career. You know, there's no time
about it. But you know, you look at them and
they work with us like cool creative people where you
can dig into shit.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I looked pretty much broadcast TV, where it's like bang,
bang bang. You get two takes and if you ask
for a third, like you know, it's just like, oh shit, okay,
changed the die, Like it's just bang. And then I
talked to Kate and why were they almost famous as
band practice? And then why it is rehearsing for three
(35:26):
weeks for this movie?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Can you imagine rehearsing for three weeks?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
No, oh my god, I'd probably win Emmys and Academy Awards.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Totally. I'm like, I'm just like showing up on set
with a script that had just changed three hours ago.
I'm like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
But looking back at all those independent movies too, I
had so much fun. I mean as a young kid.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, strange movies and Kenosha, Wisconsin and all over the
country and these weird ass places.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I mean, I had such a blast every.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Every they are, even the bad ones, like you're saying,
even the bad ones. I'm going to tell you this
one other one, another independent I did where I'm not
kidding the first a D. It was when we had
women were it was just primarily the whole crew. It
was just a crew full of women, and she was
our first a D. Didn't have a clue what she
was doing. And my girl literally sat herself basically in
(36:29):
the scene with us, sat down on an apple box
so she could watch the show her snacks. And I
was like, you know, you guys, do we not know
just not you know, literally sat on an apple box
and just eating her snacks, watch just watching the show.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
She's enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
But those you just gotta laugh.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, yes, yes, oh for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
But and so so you know that, uh so Ryan.
I met Ryan a long long time ago. I wrote
a script called Stardom Dumb and this is before he
was anything.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And then he, you know, was going to do it,
and we didn't.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
We didn't end up even making the movie. And then
my wife actually dated him for like six months.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
She did.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, her name at the time, HER's Aaron, husband was
Aaron Bartlett Bartlett and uh yes, said he's the greatest
person in the world.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I fucking loved him.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I just saw him actually speaking engagement and but he
is someone who I would try to emulate, honestly. Yes,
I just love his soul and his heart and his
humor and his intellect of this business.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And he's got such a unique tone. You know. Ryan
is definitely someone to sort of like look up to.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
And he seems like an amazing father, you know, amazing Yeah,
and husband, husband, and their relationship is amazing, so cute,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
They're good to each other.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
They yeah, they're real like example, yeah for sure, yep,
ye for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah he is. He is all of those things and
then some for sure. And that dude works hard, oh my,
and and prioritizes his family. You love everything, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Else, which I think you have to do.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You know, it's easy to screw up your children in
this kind of a business.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
There's no doubt about it, you.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Know, right. Yeah, that's what he's been really smart.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, He's a good dude, a good dude. It's been
really cool to see going from like Green Lantern to
now has been unbelievable to see, like how his career
and all of it. He's just so smart.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, he has.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Everything that he's doing so smart.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
He's a branding genius too, Yeah he is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Did you ever do you and your husband ever get
jealous that you're both you're both actors and whether you
have scenes and you know, is there any sort of
hesitancere or jealousy when it comes to all that.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Like with the two of us.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah, yeah, meaning like you have a love interest on
a show, or he's got to do this, or is
it you know, Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
You know you're going to think I'm just making all
this up, like it hasn't really been a thing. Like
we haven't had which is so bizarre, Like you would
think that we would be faced with that kind of stuff.
That all of those kinds of things happened in my twenties,
so I mean it could still happen, but we haven't
really been faced with anything like that yet. But you know,
(40:02):
we've got twenty five years under our belt now.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Though of marriage.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yes, Wow, but I can't imagine twenty five in September.
But I can't. I wouldn't. I don't think I would
love it, you know, right, I love it?
Speaker 5 (40:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Are you in La now?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yeah? In La?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I want to get out of here. I mean I'm
in the desert right now, but kind of over La.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Everybody is. I think we're going to We're going to
peace out too, are you really well? I mean there's
no point like there's there are no in person auditions anymore, so.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Exactly, and the babies are gone, so this is what's
allowing you the opportunity to leave.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So yeah, my kids are so ingrained. They have their
friends and.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I could never do that now, not yet, you can't.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I know. Do you still keep in touch with Woody
at all?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Or no? I wish he Woody was When I think
back on that film, the people that I was the
closest to it was Woody. He's friends with Nick. Oh
my god, but really it was Woody.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Nick was great, but it was really Wooty was my buddy. Yeah,
he was my bud. And then no, I don't. I
haven't seen him. I could. I don't even remember. Last
for my Tom how old?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
How old? Were you in that movie thirteen thirteen? His brother?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Do you remember his brother? He would always bring his
brother on set.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
No, oh really, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, he was really close with his brother. His name
was like Bret or Brent or something like that.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Thirty So I was seven eight. Wow, crazy, And this
is the first time that we've seen him talk to
each other literally since then.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
I can't believe it. I really can't believe it. That
movie was so so much fun, that was such a
I took it for granted. I didn't know, you know,
I was young, and just like, oh god, I got
a movie, and yeah, you know, I have no idea.
Just used to working, and I mean to this day,
I there's not even the bad ones. I'm like, it's
(42:20):
such a gift to still do what I love, to
be able to still do what I love and like
never had a regular job, Like that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah lucky.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
I love what I do, like I love every every
bit of it. I just love it. I can't imagine
ever doing something.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well, you won't. You've got you have like eighty jobs
right now. Okay, so not only now, not only am
I envious with my sister and my brother, but now you.
I need a goddamn job. So you know, yeah, Robin
talked to some people. I will talk to some people.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Me up, I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
All right, Well, it was good talking to you. It's
really fun. I appreciate you fun.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Oh my gosh, I'm so happy when I got the calls.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Like, yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I talked to Mom too. She's here in the desert
with me.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I'm like, oh my god, I'm talking to Rob and
she's like, holy sh you to.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Tell her I still have let her know. She gave
me a little gold whistle, a little and I still
have it. But she was just the youngiest.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, she's the best, you know, the best. Well, good
luck with everything, you know what, Maybe now one day
we'll work together.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I have a weird feeling.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Feeling. Yeah, and then you'll get.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
To see what an incredible actor I actually am.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
And then I'm going to go away. Way more talented
than them. They just got lucky. Okay, they just got lucky.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I've got way more talent than Kate, Mom, Kurt, everyone combined.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
They're just luckier. That's the way I deal with my pain.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
I really hope that we do wouldn't that becoming fun.
Let's make it happen.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
We will to do it, will manifest it, as they
say these days, let's.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Do it all over. Well, you have grown up. You
were so cute, you were dull then I didn't have
a crush on you then just because you're way too young.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
But that's okay. There's still time. There's still time.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
I was so gad to talk to you.
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