July 22, 2024 • 59 mins
The oldest Jonas Brother, Kevin and his youngest sibling, Franklin join Kate and Oliver for a supersized sibling convo!
Did Franklin ever want to join his brothers’ band? Who is the most reliable Jonas Brother?
And how do they continue to “build” their brotherly bonds as full-fledged adults?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Ravalry, No, no, sibling. Don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good. Holy shit. Guess who's back. Guess who decided
to show up? Lady the Talented, Maybe Grammy winning at
some point in her life.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Kate.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, allie. It's it's
so nice to see you again.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm so happy. I'm so glad you made time to
come on my show, our.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Show, any any time, any Oh my god, I missed this.
I was.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I was kind of upset because we had this podcast
today and then literally a couple hours ago, you were like,
I can't make it. I'm like, what are you fucking
out of your mind? We haven't done one in a
thousand years. We have to do this and it's the Jonas,
it's two of the job bros. I was like, I
can't do this alone.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I canceled paddle boarding. I'm out probably one hundred and
eighty bucks for the paddle boards. But it's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'll shoot you requests, but I'm really excited about today. Well,
first of all, I miss you.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
We didn't even talk about how we just went on
epic vacational with our families.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, yes, we haven't done it in so long.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh my god. It was so much fun. It was Honestly,
you're reinvigorating for family togetherness because, by the way, to
be fair, it all went really smoothly. No one fought.
Everyone had the best time. It was all everyone was together,
the cousins, the grandparents, the brothers and sisters. Fucking the
(02:14):
most fun I've had it in a long long time.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And we did so much in like two and a half.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Cakes thanks to Kate, because Kate's like, O, Kate's nine am,
We're up. We've got this. We going on this tour.
The part, oh my god, we got bikes riding around
spetsis the whole island. I'm like, holy shit. But in
a toast that I sort of made at the end
of the trip, I thanked her for pushing us because
the minute that you get there and you're actually experiencing
(02:41):
and not just sitting around, it changes the whole game,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, it's all I love you.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
No, It's true because like I always say, like if
you're on a trip with a bunch of people, organize
the things and then either come or don't come, you
know what I mean. Like it's like and then there
are certain things that sometimes I'm like, no, you have
to do this. It's going to be fun and let's
just go. And I know you're a little hungover, but
we're biking. We're biking the islands. Yes, which was the best.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, you couldn't bike.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Because what reappened was I was on a little ATV
and then our friend Jamie's bike broke down. So now
I just squeezed the three people on ATV and I'm
like humping the gas can. I'm like literally sitting on
the gas can. It was a bit of a struggle.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Oh and then I mean we were you know, you
cut your foot open. We had to go to like
the one we defined one doctor on the island. Like
it was like, yeah, it was adventurous.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh my god, it was anyway, that was that was
a blessing.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It was so fun.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And now we're back, you're you're the Colorado.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We get to be together again shortly.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I can't wait, yep.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
This is actually exciting for me because as I as
I have known Nick and Joe Jonas throughout the years,
I've never met Kevin. I never met Kevin, and I
only met Frankie Jonas once or twice.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, and a long time met Nick. I worked with
him on Scream Queens. But I've only met Nick. I
haven't met any of the other bros.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, and they're and they're awesome, and their family is
great and the mom and the mom, the parents are
great and really really cool, great family.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
This is gonna be that. I'm excited, especially with Frankie
and Kevin. How far apart they are now a fighteen
years on the show, so it's just an interesting dynamic.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And they have the show there on their third season,
which is amazing. And and yeah, let's just get into it.
I have so many questions. I will listen. I know
a lot about your family.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah you want to. Yeah, that was a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It was a long time ago. But I got to
know your brothers very well.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
But it's exciting to talk to you guys and get
into all of this stuff because because freaky, You're like,
you're the.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Baby I am. I am the little little baby boy.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
For sure, you're the surprise. You were, you were the surprise.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I was surprised a surprise or stake. Yeah, it's a
mistake or surprise, Like.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I wondered that myself for many years.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I think I think it can be both things, which
is great, and that's when you it's all about the
way you look at it at the end.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And we're very happy and frequent in our life happy accident.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
We'll call it a happy accident.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I like that, And keV, aren't you the oldest I am?
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Yeah, So me and Franklin are actually thirteen years apart,
which is really awesome. So I say it this way
when people ask and they're like, oh, that makes more sense.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Like he was four and I was driving.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Wow, yeah you know, and you say it like that
and go people are like, oh, okay, it's a different thing.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
So we lived like separate lives for so long.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
But I think, as you know, I don't know if
you feel the same way, but like as you get older,
like age becomes like less and so I yes, yeah
it was so drastic at that point, but then you know,
later in life, it just doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Our relationship really blossomed later.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well before we get into your whole family upbringing and
all that. Just now that we have you too, So
how did that work out? Meaning, you know, at what
point in your siblinghood did you finally kind of come
together in that age gap you know, decreased where it
was we're homies now.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It was definitely with this show.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
I mean, once we started filming this together, I think
we had to spend more time together than we'd ever
spent that's solo.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And so I think that through this we really created
a relationship and sort of.
Speaker 8 (06:55):
Found our own little path as brothers and friends, which
has been really special.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That's cool. I mean, Katie and I are only two
and a half years apart, but it's not dissimilar, you
know to what we're doing with our podcast, where we
were always tight, but this has definitely brought us together
more often, always communicating, always sort of talking, always in
each other's faces, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So it's great.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
It's a good way to connect, and I think that
was really fun for us, Like you said, like being
able to work together when we don't when I work
with you know, the two other guys every day, see
them more than enough, but then be able to do
this with frank was just awesome.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Well, the funny thing, Oliver is ten year, ten years
older than Wyatt, and there is a different kind of
relationship that happens once you get like I think, once
your past, like the seven year mark, because when you're seven,
I think you're still in the house a little bit longer.
You know, you still feel like you're kind of growing
up together. But like ten years old, I mean, because
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I'm seven years from Wyatt, but ten year to thirteen
year difference, I mean, you know, it's it's a substantial,
especially in the development of your brain. I mean, at thirteen,
your hormones are raging. Your brain's in a completely different place.
The last thing you want to do is deal with
a little baby brother.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
It was like I think that was I think that's
actually why we weren't as close, to be honest, Like
I think Franklin was very very close with you know,
Nick and Joe growing up, you know, as those families were,
because I spent essentially kind of similar to our relationship.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
It's nice to meet you in person, Kate, right, Like.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
We I was kind of living outside of the bubble
of la and like I was in New Jersey and
and I, like Danielle, were kind of setting up our
life here with our kids, and that was what I
was focused on.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
And I was doing that so much.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Earlier than everyone else in my life, and I kind
of like felt almost like it's odd, but I almost
felt like the outcasts for living that life because no
one else was doing it yet so streng and then
everyone caught up.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
It's just interesting how like it's all about your perspect perspective.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Are you know you guys on those same level playing
fields now, or are you the elder statesman? Will you
tell Franklin no, dude, hey little man, fucking listen.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
To no, no, no no.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
When we when we work together, it's you know, it's
just me and him, Yeah, unless unless he's saying differently.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But I don't know, no, no, no. I think you know,
you're totally right.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
I think that there's definitely some times I definitely think
that regardless just because of the age, and I think
the maturity and also hosting right is something that Kevin
has done before and I hadn't done before the show.
I think there definitely is like I look up to
him in a lot of ways, and I go to
him for advice or go to him for uh even
like some constructive criticism on how to do my job
(09:43):
better because I trust him so much. Right, I think
that that's being the younger, younger, younger of a family
of very successful people. You realize after a certain point
that they're they're that well of knowledge is there for
you for a reason.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean, how old were you guys when you started
the Jonas Brothers.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
So this year, actually next year will be twenty years
of the band, like our first second great right, So
I was I left high school around like juniors, like
senior year, actually senior year, and it was one of
those weird things where we kind of just like I
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was out of the out of school at that point.
I think I was like sixteen when we started like
really doing things. But like the band didn't take off.
You know, it takes ten years to be an overnight success, right,
so like it was a while. But like our first
project that like got traction was like, you.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Know, five years later, how old was frank How old
were you, Frankie?
Speaker 8 (10:44):
If Kevin was sixteen, then I would have been like
three or four really, And then we moved to la
and like that was really the quantifier for me of
like it's happening and life is changing, and that happened
when I.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Was five or six.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Well, so I was just thinking like like when when
Frankie was born, were you guys already kind of it
was like, you guys are these little like three pack
you know.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
You already had years and years of just us, right,
and so it was cool. It shook it all up.
Joe was really like I want to hold a baby,
like have you know? And I think that's so interesting
because it's like they still have that. Like he just
went to Europe with Franklin just went to Europe with
Joe and like they just like kicked in with his
girlfriend Anna and like it was Franklin's girlfriend Anna, and
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so it was just like awesome, and it's like that
relationship is still there.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
I think it's trans all these years, which is really cool.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It makes it it's funny. It also makes sense that
Joe is the one that was more like the baby.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Yeah, nobody had no I mean like I just spent
a few days with Kevin in New Jersey and that's
something that was really special. He he gave me my mullet,
which was great, and I think that as we've grown older,
it's just been interesting to navigate finding that the different relationships.
And you know, because after five years, I think it's
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five years, you become an only child, and so that's
been an interesting thing to navigate, being finding an individual relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
With each of them.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, that's such an interesting different place, you know, for
you where it is having individual relationships with your brothers,
because there really wasn't the four pack essentially, you know
what I mean, you have to kind of navigate those relationships.
Do you four of you always?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Do you ever?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Do guys get together?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah, four you do lot. He tries to as much
as we can. It's it is hard, right, Like everyone's there.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, Joe's got spot in Miami, New York and then
mixed to LA with his family, and then I'm here
in New Jersey, so like we're everywhere, and then we
work together constantly, but we then go so many different
directions depending on where everyone's you know, posted up and
families are.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
So it's it's pretty hard. But we we do a
lot of family stuff together.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
Like, yeah, we at least tried to make it a priority.
But I mean last year Thanksgiving was the first time
that we had had everybody parents, grandparents and also the
like all the nieces, all the granddaughters in one room.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That was the first time.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
There's a lot of Jonas girls going like happen.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I was about to say, are they all nieces?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Yeah, every single one of them. So my mom got
four boys and now she's got five granddaughters.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
So it's pretty great.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
That's exactly what happened. That's Danny, that's my that's my partner.
So Danny is three brothers and they all are just
having girls. There's three granddaughters.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
There's like it's there's so many girls.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And my.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Brother and sister in law, Danielle's sister, she also had
a girl. So like when even though the cousins come
in too, and it's just like there's more. It's it's insane.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
My dad wanted all girls and he kept trying so
and I am the last try at the girl. That's
why you waited that long. It finally convince my mom
and so now it's like all this payback coming do Yeah,
able to do themselves an overwhelming number of girls.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That is awesome.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I guess what's really interesting about this is, like, Frankie,
your perspective, because you know, I mean growing up you guys,
weren't you in where did you grow up?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Jersey? And then moved to La and then La right
and and.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
So you were five and then and you guys were
already pursuing Kevin. You and Joe and uh and Nick,
we're pursuing music.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yeah, it was just like we were growing up in
the church at that point, like playing music.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But then like Nick was my mom was.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Pregnant with Franklin when Nick was on Broadway.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Yeah, his first big performance was U or one of
the his first really big performances was Beauty and the
Beast and he was in he was like in rehearsals
while my mom was birth to me Christmas Carol.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Yeah, so like she was driving into the city nine
months craignant bringing them to the show and then had
a newborn for like the next five years while he
was doing all these different shows and Joe too doing
LAVEM and I was doing that at that point, like
we started doing like commercials here in New York.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
And like that whole like vibe and just got crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Because your family and your parents are in the arts,
or a little bit.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
It was a friend of ours that had a hair salon.
It's so Jersey that it's ridiculous hair salon. And my
brother was singing in the salon, which is like ridiculous,
and so he was singing and then this lady like
turned around in her chair. It's like out of a
movie and was like, you should know who'll meet this
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lady named Shirley Grant. She was a kid's talent agent
back in the day. She was here in New Jersey
because I think your son has something you can you
can work with my my son, nephew. I'm not sure
what she said, but is is on le miss and
like miss on Broadway. So my parents ended up taking
Nick and we all got like she wanted to work
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with all of us and that was the beginning of
the journey.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
But Nick was like doing Broadway, that's.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What he wanted. Wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And then but you and Joe didn't have that same.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
It's funny Joke's all he wanted at the time was
to be on all that, like he to be a median.
He wanted to make people laugh and he didn't want
to sing. He thought it was the most uncool thing ever,
and then of course he ends up doing La Ba
m On with bas Lorman, which is a total like ridiculous,
but he got this roll he could sing, which is crazy,
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and then he could and then we all know joke
and sing and so like the thing is, it's really
funny how the thing you hate is the thing first
job he gets.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
He got a durful Dodger and Oliver like an off
rollway thing.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
And then but it's funny like I was the one
that wasn't doing the singing thing that and I got
like I got work almost immediately because I looked.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
It was my mom gave me.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Do you remember the the frosted tips, like the frosted
hair tips, Like course, yeah, we all did it back
and so like I had that but.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Like early, like young, I was cool, but I got
made fun of all in high school, middle school at
this point.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Like it was like they call they called me piss head.
It was really really funny, it was.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
So yeah, so like I was dealing with that.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
But that's the thing that got me the job, which
is so of course the the.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Justa position got But so you guys are like young
and in it like child actors and were you all
were all pretty supportive of each other.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Oh yeah, at this point we were like this is
so cool, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And then Frankie, what was your perception of this, like
from the young men, I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You were still breastfeeding. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Know, but I mean I mean as you started to
get older, because I would think that like your whole childhood,
like we could get into you know, Kevin, you and
Joe and Nick and like what that felt like.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But we're talking to you guys, which is you know,
you're like you're a baby.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
They're often running, really they start to you know, and
then really when you start to come into your childhood,
you've got your brothers are like big music, a huge
music act.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah. I guess the question is when did you realize like, oh, ship,
it was a house.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
And we live in a bus. I think is when
it really Yeah, there was there was a few moments.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
I mean, like a lot of my like fondest memories
from when I was a really really young kids. First
memories were in you know, a big white passenger van
going between like Dare Not to do drug assembly tours
that they were doing in New Jersey, and I don't
you know, I don't really remember any of the Broadway
days just because I was so young, but I do
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really like my first memories are all really from their shows.
And I think first time that I really realized that
life was going to change from the very small level
of staces that I had gotten used to is when
they did their first commercial as a band.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It was the baby Bottle Pop commercial, and it was when, uh,
it was it was.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Just a very big moment they did, like they did
the baby Bottle Pop song and uh, my parents brought
me a.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, they made it. They made a bigger bigg and
on that same trip, I think it was the same
trip they were on Hannah Montana and like that was
my favorite show as a kid. My first celebrity crush was.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Was Hannah, not Miley, but Hannah, and it was I
was obsessed and so it just Uh, I think that
was the big moment for me where I realized that
life was going to.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Be very different.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Did you look up to it? Is this, you know?
Because this is what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think at first it was.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Hard, just because I was a kid and I didn't
really realize and the only thing that I could think
about was moving away. From my friends, and I look
back and I always say that I really wanted to
be like a towny, like I like, at that point
in my life, my image of life was like staying
in the same place, working at the seven eleven, or
like working at the Ritas.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And staying in New Jersey.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
And but I think, no, once we got to la
and we're living that style of life that was so
different from being like pastors kids in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I very quickly acclimated.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Were you pulled out of New Jersey when you had
your friends and you had established your life at that
point as much as Okay, so you're six, So there
wasn't any like I don't want to leave, this is
my home. There wasn't a lot of for us.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
You're ready to get out of there, right right?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
L Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
The first time being told we were moving, I definitely
felt a sense of like sadness, but then very quickly
was like, oh wait, I were moving to l A
and like gonna be on Disney Channel and going to
be touring and whatever, and and so the morning process
was very short.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
What was it like being a pastor's son? How does that?
How is it growing up with a pastor as a
dad work out for you guys.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
We had a cool because we don't know anything about
what that must be like, you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Know, just we're rebellious, just naturally we're boys.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
It was, you know, it was kind of preparing us
to be in front of a lot of people all
the time and having a lot of pressure. I think,
I think, to be fair, I think that was my parents'
path and that was their journey, and I think it
was an incredible time in our life and growing up
in that environment. It's like the first family of a church, right,
So like you're front, You're sitting there and you can't
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you know, you're not messing up, and you're you're trying
to do the best you can. But then there's a
lot of pressure and a lot of unnecessary pressure and
you feel that. But at the same time, with that pressure,
it is where I learned to play guitar. So like,
at the same I'm grateful for it one hundred and tenfold.
So like there's like there's a balance to everything.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
It's just type look at it. But like I I
remember growing up and my dad getting this job and.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Moving back to New Jersey and at this point we
were living in Dallas, and I remember coming to New
Jersey and it's just felt like a whole new world.
And I loved it here and still live here at
this apart of it, this is my home, and I
think that's part of it.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Yeah, Kevin and I are the only brothers to actually
be born in New Jersey. The rest of them were
born elsewhere but lived most of their life in Jersey.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Was there was there ever pressure to to not to
live to if you didn't want to go down that path,
if you didn't want to sort of have religion very
strong in your life. Were your parents okay with that?
Where they look, hey, this is us and you need
to do you I.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Definitely it was more of like when you're younger, I
don't think you really get a choice about much of
your life, right, Like exactly, you're like being you're in
that environment that yeah, this is who you are. As
we became adults and made our own decisions, of course,
they were respectful of anything you would do, you know,
like they were just like there's pressure. And as the firstborn,
I think I felt way more than Franklin ever felt.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
About to say.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
We had very different parents, you know, the same people yeah,
it was like it was an interesting.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
We left New Jersey and you left being a pastor.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
I think they were just like that who like a
little bit of a weight of that pressure fell off.
But then it just it just transitioned I think into
my dad like working with the band.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Like yeah, it was like one of our.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Managers and you know, so like I think he took
a lot of that excellence that he we into our
the band. And sometimes I think that actually was difficult
for us because we're like we saw these kids that.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Were like rebelling in music industry, you know.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
And or being a certain way, and like they're getting
so much like love for that, and like we're like
goodie two shoes over here, and so I just felt
like weird.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
It was like this weird like pressure that kind of
transitioned into our band in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That's so cool. You make such an interesting story. Interesting
point though, it's like you had two different parents and
tell you.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
I made I made Kevin jealous on many occasions because
our parents were so lenient with me with is shoes
that they were very not lenient with I think I.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Think it'll be honest with you, I think That's probably
why I had conflict with them for a little while
and just like what the hell is this? At the
same time, like now as a parent of two girls,
like I'm like, ah, yeah, just doing the best you can.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You don't know, you're just making.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
This as you go along, totally, totally, You're just hoping
it all works out.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, you know, your parents were like quite involved in
the beginning, Like you said your dad. Was that a
good thing? Did that feel like it was a helpful,
trusting thing or did that also? I mean a lot
of times when parents get into that, like you know, role,
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it can become very challenging.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Unlike most I.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Would say, and I'm just not speaking to everyone, but
I would say, unlike most people, my father was actually
kind of qualified, Like he was an increasing credible singer,
Like he can quote you like every top ten Billboard
thing to the last like one hundred years, Like he
was his wealth of music knowledge and understanding, and you know,
he grew up singing country music clubs like nightclubs his
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whole life.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Like like he he lived.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
He like he got it right. And I think I
think with.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Anything when you work with family, it's complicated, right. There
are good, there are bad. I don't know, you guys
work together. I'm sure there's good and then there's bad.
Like it's just what it is, right, So, Like what so,
I think as we got older and I think there
are some things. I think we just needed to kind
of venture on our own, like anybody does.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
And I think but the time we.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
See as him working with us, I'll never regret. And
he still is like an advisor to us and we
call on him to, you know, for input.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
And you know, ideas, and like, yeah, he's he's much
more a part of our environment now, I think than
it ever was before.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, it's also that's actually really interesting because it's also
just as a parent, you want your kids to be
their own people, right, So after a while you're sort
of like, you guys need to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
There's that too, which is like you really want your
kids to be able to work with, to have other.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
People out in the world that they can work with
and know how to manage those things as well and
navigate it. Yeah, you know, height of like Jonah's brother's
fame and then Frankie, I just want to know, like,
did you feel left out when that was happening.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Yeah, I mean it was their their height. I mean, Kevin,
you could probably answer it better. But two thousand and
eight to twenty ten I think was the period where
it was like.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The craze that was insane.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah, that was I think the real, like the
real meat and potatoes of it. I mean, I didn't
think it was the first rise.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
I feel like there's been like two ways, which is insane.
Now we're in this other thing that's like better and
bigger than it's ever been.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
But like, yeah, agreeing with that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Frankly, that was like the beginning.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It was eight right, Like you were that that.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Line down the street for a show at four am
for Good Morning America, a thing that was happening.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and the beatles Mania of it
was definitely happening at that point.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
How did that feel for you?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I didn't have any like jealousy or anything like that.
I didn't really.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
I never wanted to be in the band. I definitely
wanted to be in music and to write. But I
think that even from that age, as Kevin putt earlier,
like they were a unit, you know, and I.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Was I was very far afterwards, I was like more.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Of an only child, and so I didn't see them,
like the Jonas Brothers brand as my my entry point
or the way that I.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Would want to make music. And I'm the biggest fan
of their music.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
I think there is I know it from back to front,
their entire discography, but I think that it was just
never really my my cup of tea to want to
join or be a part of that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I think that we did a lot together.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
I mean we did Jonas together, we did camp Rock together,
we did a lot of those sorts of projects, and
I was more on the acting side, especially when I
was younger, that was really where my my thing was.
And yeah, it wasn't really my my path. And then
when they came back together, even even then, it was
still like I was working on my solo music and
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that was a very different energy than the music that
they released, and I think that I had finally found
sort of the music in the voice that I wanted
to do. And regardless, I was I think one of
the first people to stand up and be so excited
when they told me that they were getting back together
and they were working on this new.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Project and what's your music, Well, how does your music differ.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's you know, it's more di y for sure, it's
more indie kind of experiential.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Uh, it's it's definitely more on It's not for like
a broader audience, I would say, but you know, I.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Think that that's even that still, it's it, dude.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Them being in my life has been such an incredible
well of knowledge for that process of understanding that I
didn't have my ten thousand hours and really understanding.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
That, like you know, whether it be on Broadway or
in hair.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Salons or whatever, or at church, they got their ten
thousand hours and really paid their dues in a way
that I.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Was so excited to learn about.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
And even if you know, times have been different and
they were like, come do whatever with us, I think
that even that I would have probably been said no,
be just because I think the level of experience that
they have, I pray that I one day am able
to get close to just because they have.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
They're such professionals and they're so experienced.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Moving off the path. Just in siblings in general, in
a social one of your four brothers, like, first of all,
how important is that relationship and how difficult is it
to maintain? You know, because you've got to work at all. Relationships.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
It's extremely our It takes work. I think you know,
me and Franklin, we don't spend nearly enough time together.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
Honestly, but I'm happy when we do.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
But the guys when meet you and Nick work like
we will find time where it's not where we actually
hang out and try to take some time, especially on
the road, like once a week, once every two weeks,
like whatever it is, and just be like just hang out,
like actually do something together, like whether that's you know,
we golf a lot together, but I mean, like truly
like do something just us, the just three of us,
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just to make sure that we're like not just getting
lost in the mix.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Of it all.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, because you guys all communicate differently too, right, Everyone
has their own specific relationships with each other, which is
which is an interesting dynamic.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
It's too interesting, honestly.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, Like there's certain brothers you might be able to
be more open with, you know, and sort of spill
your heart. There's other ones that maybe have better advice
where it's like, oh, I want to go to you
for this.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
You know, you're also all very different.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
That's an understatement.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
We are the most different.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Really, it's wild, how different?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
How so?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
How so?
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I mean it's like the character versions of ourselves. If
they're going to like write something in a in a mix,
like they really are, have to be a character version
because that's the only way to describe how we're.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, we I don't know if you guys know
about like the four archetypes of like the hero, the
the what's the media, and the escapegoat like the lost child.
The way we fit into those four categories.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
So we're not let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
No, we're not unique, but we're very we're very unique
in other ways.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But no, we hold on, hold on. So so who's
who would you say is the most reliable? Like you
can rely on this person like you can Canick, I
could have I can one.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It was there was.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
There was one time when we went over to Nick's house,
me and my girlfriend. She was vegetarian, and he ordered
a bunch of food and he when it came and
I was like, oh, is there like a vegetable option?
And he the way his face dropped because he realized
that he hadn't ordered a vegetarian option going forward for
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even now she's not vegetarian anymore. He will still order
her a vegetarian option wherever we go, just because he
like remembers that moment so well and because it's such
a such a nick nickism.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Mm hmmm. Who's who would you who would you say
is like the wise old al who do you think
the one that people like respect their advice and say, okay,
well this person sort of has a little more intuition
than than the others.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I might also say, nick on that one.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Only Franklin's answer, that's all right, That's what I said. Like,
remember I was outside the mix. That's why.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Who's Who's the one to go to jail? Who's going
to jail first?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Probably me?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Who's the most emotional of like vulnerable? Okay with vulnerability emotion?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
You know, I think Joe is definitely open and you
know when he can be and like really let you in,
like he's you're you're all there?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Who's the most like who's the most cryptic? Like you're like, man,
this dude's holding a secret.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
What this guy Kevin is is like a like a
zodiac riddle. He's you got a really good.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
This actually brings up an interesting sub which is.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
You know, Kevin, you got married really young, like you
you right, I mean you met your you met your wife,
you were I mean, how old were you?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I was that how old?
Speaker 7 (35:11):
Was like twenty.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
When we met?
Speaker 7 (35:16):
We were yeah, when I met nineteen years old. She
actually walked in.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
She's drawing something for her bachelor her sister's bachelorette party.
Actually I can see her working on it diligently.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Hill. So yeah, So I mean you were young, and
then you had a family really young.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
You know, we went, we knew, we were just like
this is it, let's do this then, you know, and
I was pumped.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
But then we had our daughter, our first daughter, Elena,
in twenty twenty fourteen five years old.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Now, so like while you guys were still young, like
you kind of branched off outside of your little the brother.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
We we got married young.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
We kind of knew we wanted to and then we
just like we were like, you know, let's after about
a year of traveling and living in LA for a
minute and her house, we were just like I knew
we were at this time still in the band. So
it was it felt like the right thing to do
was for her to be have her ecosystem around her.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
When I was happening.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
So it's either she's alone or with my family or
you know, something else. And so like it was one
of those weird things where like I just felt like
it was better.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And then Franklin was like an uncle. I was like
an uncle of like ten.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
So yeah, I'm so I'm only when Alina Kevin's first
daughter was born. I was only a year older than
Kevin was when I was born.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Crazy, it's weird.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Nuts and and so I mean, I think I think
what happens. I mean, this would be like my armchair
like psychology assessment of this.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
But what happened.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
What happens when you meet, you're a partner, and you're young,
is that it does kind of ships to the dynamic
a little bit, you know, it can that became.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
That became my because my outlet was my escape. It
was where I wanted to be, and.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
So like that became a best friend everything.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
So you know, we've been married now for fifteen years,
and so like it was crazy.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
It's incredible and the fact that we have a growing
life together and you know, it still changes.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
I think we talked about this recently. We feel like
sometimes it is kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
A lot of people say that when you get married
young at times, or you meet your person like you
drift apart. I actually think we grew up together, which
I think maybe that worked for us and what we
both needed.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
And that's how I feel. And I you know, it's
not saying it works for everyone but worked for me.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, definitely didn't work for me.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, but you know nobody, but it's like to get
on a case by case basis.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
No, I've been I've been with my wife for twenty
three years mare seven, married eighteen, amaze and look I
got together with her twenty four. But you know, it
always takes work. It's never just perfect. I mean, you're
always working at that shit. And that's how you grow together,
you know what I mean, That's how you can You
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can always make the choice if love is there, of course,
if the foundation of love and respect is there, you
can either grow up, grow apart, or grow together or
do a little bit of you know.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
So I think.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Communication is also massively important and I have to work
on that constantly every day because I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
That like reacts really fast and then.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Has to retract and go okay, yeah, actually feeling like
I'm like a I can't help it. I think it's
it's fortunately for a long time, still work someone like
we have a moment, I'm just like say snap real fast.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah yeah, no, oh no, I relate to that.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
I said it yesterday we were talking about something that
I just couldn't get past it. I was just like,
you know what, okay, restart, like just for reset, like
reset it all, and yeah we can just we're moving
forward here, but reset, Like no.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I know.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I had the same thing where Aaron was supposed to
pick up these antibiotics, you know, because she was like,
I'll get them on the way home. I said, okay, great,
and then you know, she comes and said, did you
get the an about it? She's like no, like oh
crazy like that. She's like what the fuck? And I'm
like you and she's like, chill out. And we got
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like a little scuffle.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
Because I really like happened to me yesterday.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
It was, oh my god, it was. It was so simple,
Danny Dan, we're building a new house across there. There's
a lot of questions to be out.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah that.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Like you guys they say, building houses is like it's
like one of the top reasons for travorce.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
It's not as simit to our relationship, don is.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
We've done this, this is our ninth yeah, and built
a lot of houses together that storm.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
I also say, I also think at the end of
the day, like it's always a woman's house, like you
just we got to have the final say, I'm just.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Going to say, right up.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I literally go.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I walked in and I showed her two different colors
today about something.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
I put it on her desk. I go, I know
what I would choose, and I'm like, tell me what
you want. You know, Like I'm like, I don't care
you want this wall move? Oh, this is awful, Like
let's go.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well that that's why it works. It's when people try
to like control.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
It's like, at the end of the day, there's something
like enless unless the woman just hates doing things like that.
But if a woman really wants to build her home,
like you gotta look like you have input. But like
if there's something where a woman's like, no, there is
an opening in the kitchen and it's going to look
like this and it's going to tile all over it,
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there's no fight exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
No, it was so simple, like we have these like
we're When I say we're building across the street from
our house, I literally mean like actually across the.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
Street, so like actually I can look out any.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Window and just look at the house being built and
seeing if people are there, and like it's pretty amazing.
It's a little comedian but also problematic because what's happening
is like I'm just going back and forth all day,
you know, and so like it's great, but at the
same time, I'm realizing it's I'm there.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
More than I want to be.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
But I'm literally kevin, I'm literally about to do the
same thing I am. I have the house, I'm I'm
I'm next door, literally next door.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
It's great.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
I put cameras up while we're touring and traveling and
playing shows, and I like at cameras on our current
house looking at our new build and everyone I'm getting.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
Made fun of this a lot by my brother saying
that this is all I talk about.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
But when you build a house. They never built a house.
They purchase homes stuff, they've never built a house. Like
when I say built, I mean straight top, I am
the GC on the job, I'm doing all and it's
like it's like there's no time.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
I was really bad mood.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Right before I got on this this fault because I
found out when I ordered the windows. Uh there's an
entire window missing.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Big window from our Oh no, And now it's you
got to wait like months.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Yeah, I guess, and it's not my fault. They're going
to say it's my fault. And so I'm like game planning.
How I just like y make it their fault.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, wait a minute, how have you built nine houses?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Is just built?
Speaker 8 (42:37):
He moves, he moves, like built every two years, renovated five,
built three?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
But is this part of your business? Meaning like you
like this is a money to do that?
Speaker 7 (42:47):
And realized I was not very lucky with that. I
decided that music is much better.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Career path for me.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
I say, the biggest issue in building because I love it.
It's like one of my past right. I love interior design,
I love redoing houses. I want to do it all
the time. I have people in my house quoting things
all the time. The biggest thing is is that it's
the only one of the only businesses where you incentivize
someone to actually spend your money. You're like, I get
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twenty percent on top of everything, and there and then
and then it's like you got some water damage, so
it's going to be another one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
You're like, I'm paying you for this.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
No, No, that's why, like why I literally I started
doing it all myself because it's like I'm going to
make the decisions myself. And I've met and I've moved
amazing people around us that like know what they're doing
and like are the right subs?
Speaker 7 (43:40):
Are the right people to do the jobs? And the
houses amazing. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
You know, we have a great team, and I just
I'm so mad about this window thing, like literally could
like put my fingy they Oh god, it just doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
It's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
You've got to breathe it out.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Moving into this house.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
Like this is like for us, we really wanted something like.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Well now, not for months later because of this game.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
It's okay, I can finish pretty much. It won't change anything.
It'll just make me more stressed than I need to be.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Sells analysis.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 6 (44:16):
Why do you feel like like it's fun and it's
at like I don't know, Okay, I don't know if
you agree, but like there's something kind of incredible about
walking into a property seeing like I can look at
a blueprint, I can see what that room is gonna
look like in my head, like I can feel like
I can do that now right like and so I can.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
I can say that.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
And my wife Daniel has incredible taste and so she
has great pick like she pas the most amazing stuff
and like like we we we were looking at like
literally like our like what our closet was going to be,
not our mass like like our but like our like
walking closets in the like just like a normal coat
closet in our four year And the design thing that
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she came up with that was going to fix the
problem is so much better than something anything else I
would think about.
Speaker 7 (45:01):
So it's just like together we're making it's just fun.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
It's the most creative process and it's all it's the
most creative process and it's also like the most when
you really kind of love it.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
It's just talk about like creating an expression.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Like to me, it's like that that's like you walk
into a room and that experience you have walking into
a room and what you can you know, I think
it's why.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
People are so obsessed with these shows.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
It's like I can watch I could watch House Hunters
like International all day long just because I want to
see what people do to these apartments and like you
know Bermuda, like I just how people live and like
what they choose to live in is like kind of
an amazing expression of you know, personality and travel.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Like the first thing I'm doing is I'm looking at
like the homes in the area when we're like do
like in somewhere random and like, I'm just curious, what
is going on?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Are you going to settle down?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (46:00):
This is our hope. If not, I think we I
don't know. I said we said that.
Speaker 8 (46:06):
I've said this every single time he's moved. He said, guys,
it's we finally found our dream house. And then years
you know, I don't.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
Want to count anything out, but I really am excited
about this, Like I want to I'm hopeful that this
is the house that the girls graduate high school, right,
you know, like that.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Like this is that space and so perfect.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
That's that's an exciting place to be too. I just wonder, like.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
Who's the one that, like, let's say the ship hits
the fan, is going to be the one that's going
to be like, Okay, this is what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I've got a plan.
Speaker 7 (46:44):
I don't know if it's for everyone.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
Like, you know, I think if I'm being real, I
think we depend on each other, Like there's not one person.
Speaker 7 (46:56):
I think you're a family. I think I think at
the end of the day, like it's a.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
You.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Everyone's got a job, you know what I mean. Like
it's not like there's a one person that's going to
fix our Like it's I think we were too we
have too much crazy personalities for that.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
How about how about this is kind of how about
if there's a zombie apocalypse right, like who's taking what
role and trying to sort of survive?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
And you know, that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (47:27):
I think we at for roles like I'm logistics king,
like if I'm if I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Talking about like you're mapping out how to get to
the coast.
Speaker 7 (47:36):
But you know, I think Joe is trying to make
dinner out of berries in the woods.
Speaker 8 (47:44):
I'm like going on runs into the city and then
like sneaking around and stuff and supplies.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, building a wall around wherever we are.
Speaker 5 (47:59):
So like if there was an earthquake. Whose house would
be the most prepped?
Speaker 7 (48:04):
Well, mine's going to stand up a long. It's because I'm.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Building it, But.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Like who have the most Like who who have the
most supplies?
Speaker 8 (48:13):
I have a disaster prepared inness, kid, but that's exclusively
because my girlfriend wills me to have it. So she Yeah,
she's the one who's prepared for We moved to LA
and it was like we were looking at houses and
we couldn't find I would show her be like, oh,
this place is amazing. She'd pull up her phone. Nope,
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that's in a floodplane. Can't do that, and then would
go like she knew every piece of possible disaster that
we could incur.
Speaker 6 (48:41):
So I think Joe is a hypochondriac, So yeah, he
would be prepared the most, I think because I think
he would be like worried about everything.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
So Season three, Claim to Fame yep, Now explain how
this came about?
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Like, like, how to this happened?
Speaker 7 (49:01):
It was kind of crazy.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
This company was making this show and in their original
pitch document to ABC, it was me and Franklin and.
Speaker 7 (49:11):
This is a placeholder. I think ABC thought they had
us attached.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Which was really.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
Worked way too hard to make it the deal work,
but luckily it did and that so they came to us.
They fish us the idea and they asked were like, hey,
would you want to work together on this? And I
was like, this is you finally get to do something
again together and yeah, Joe for you know what it is,
Franklin you I always say it says the best, give us.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Your give our listeners, the elevator pitch.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Yeah, it's just the neo baby Olympics. It's just the
neo baby Olympics.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
We have.
Speaker 8 (49:50):
Once we get in like the logistics, Kevin's better at
I just I'm able to sum it up and that
really well.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
But we have it's basically able to have.
Speaker 7 (49:59):
Well people in a room to in a house together.
They live there.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
They are all related to a celebrity in some capacity.
You don't know who they're related to. They don't know
who they're related to, and the goal is to try
to figure it out. They get at the end of
the episode, they have a guess, someone that's decided as
the guests are. As a guest, they get right to
stay in the house.
Speaker 7 (50:18):
They get wrong. They kicked out.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Cool, I love it.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Wait you should go on the show, So I think why.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
So so so?
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Then what happens when they win?
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Like? Who, like what there's one hundred thousand dollars on
the line?
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
And it's in its third season.
Speaker 8 (50:43):
It's in It's this third season. We've had a we've
had a good go of it. We're really enjoying it.
This season is bigger and different than other seasons. This
season we had some of the most iconic names we've
had so far, yet somehow they were harder than any
other names that we've had.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Season two we.
Speaker 8 (51:04):
Had a pretty viral moment that people know about the
show from the first episode of second season where the
niche of of Tom Hanks.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Had a oh yes, a bit of a little thing.
Yeah yeah, and uh wait what happened? I remember this.
Speaker 7 (51:27):
And then started like just screaming and tearing up the
house and like it was.
Speaker 8 (51:34):
Oh no, blocking herself in closets, hysterics, Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
You set me up. The art department wanted to be
off the show.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
My clues are too easy. Every I'm the most famous
person here.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Oh my god, So do they have to like clean?
Does she like clear that with Tom Hanks and being
like hey, I'm going on this show or.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
That we know that, Like this show is.
Speaker 6 (52:02):
Really like lighthearted and super fun, and you'll see like
most of the celebrity relatives like are now sending videos
in to like if they win or if they you know,
get kicked off, and they're like revealing who they are,
so like you can see that people are like supporting
them doing the show, and some like prepare them to
be like on camera, like they're like helping them change
their entire identities.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Like it's really it's kind of fun.
Speaker 5 (52:24):
I feel like, one I really uncle Mark on the Mark,
it'd be really funny on the show like that.
Speaker 8 (52:32):
We haven't had an uncle or an it yet, and
we've been we've been pushing for it. We want an
uncle or an at for like a parent or a grandparent.
I've been pushing for that.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
How much input do you guys have?
Speaker 7 (52:43):
We actually, luckily this is like.
Speaker 6 (52:46):
Truly we get to just be the host and do
that and uh for now, but then beyond that, we
don't know who anyone is. We actually requested that we
don't know, so we get to play long and like
anytimes one was revealed, like we're experiencing it just in
real time, and everyone's like, well, how do they keep it?
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Like, how do they not know?
Speaker 6 (53:05):
It's like, well, then we take away all cell phones.
They're sequestered. They're like they're living in a bowl.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Right, fun, I'm gonna watch this.
Speaker 8 (53:13):
I'm gonna have some some instances where there's somebody who,
to the audience, right, is so obvious. And it's second
season particularly, there was one guy who they tried to
guess him off two or three times. Nobody could get him,
and at home episode one, people were just outraged by
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how obvious this person was.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
So you looked like, did he look like the celebrity?
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Identical? Identical?
Speaker 8 (53:41):
And so Yeah, but just because it was from an
older generation, nobody already got it.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Right, I've loved talking to you guys so much. I
don't want to keep everybody much like, but I do
want to make sure we do our like a bit
of our speed round please.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I already know one of the questions, which is celebrity
crush at least for Frankie, was not Miley Cyrus but
Hannah min Yeah, it was Hannah.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
It was Hannah. Yeah, absolutely, Kevin, what.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Was your celebrity crush?
Speaker 7 (54:25):
Like I don't even know growing up.
Speaker 6 (54:28):
Growing up, it was like always at first like Disney
Channel show was like Hillary Duff on Lizimmire.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
And then first kiss, oh.
Speaker 7 (54:39):
First kiss, high school girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
High school girlfriend. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (54:46):
Thank It was my neighbor in LA when I was
like twelve or thirteen. She moved in down the street
and it was a it was a summer love affair.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Oh isn't the first kiss? So scary?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Mine was act sheally freaked out. I freaked out because
this girl, her name was Nicole and I won't say
her last name. We were living in Colorado and she
was older than me, and I heard this rumor that
she was going to kiss me at lunch. I was
in fourth grade, and she chased me around like outside
in the you know, in Colorado all of her girlfriends
(55:20):
and pinned me down and sort of like eating my
face off, and I was screaming like no, no, but
at the same time, I kind of like sticking my
tongue in there. And then I was devastated because there
was a room. There's a rumor going around that she
only liked me because my parents were famous, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
So.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Dar yeah, okay, which brother was the nicest growing up.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Oh Joe, yo Joe.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah, sweetheart, sweetheart, baby boy Joe.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
And this is too different for each one. Which brother
picked on you the most?
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Franky picked on me the most? I think probably Kevin. Yeah,
probably Kevin.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Which, if any brother might have perfect pitch?
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Nick?
Speaker 7 (56:20):
I think Nick's pretty close.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
It's pretty close.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
Yeah, that's an amazing thing to have and also can
be like incredibly challenging.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Nick seems as some gaining. Nick seems like kind of
you know, the golden boy. But but what's Nick's worst flaw? Like,
what does that dude need to change in his life?
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Ask him?
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, brothers go bad.
Speaker 7 (56:46):
Like you don't give advice to brothers.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
That's true, it's true.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
We just we know down just to praise each other.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yeah, what is your favorite Jonas Brothers song? Frankie?
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Oh favorite?
Speaker 5 (56:59):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (57:00):
I have an unpopular favorite song that they don't like
that I like.
Speaker 8 (57:03):
But there's a song that they that is from another
it's the only one they don't play on the current tours,
and it's Don't Charge Me for the Crime featuring Common.
Speaker 7 (57:17):
Classic Oh Nice, just to piss us off.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
No, I genuinely love that song. I think it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
And Kevin, what's your favorite song to play?
Speaker 1 (57:31):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (57:31):
Wow, favorite songs? I really like playing the song Strangers.
It's just so fun. It's it's just an awesome moment any.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Time we do it.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Okay, I love it. Last question all you want to ask?
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah, well, just with the two of you, because it's
only two of you, which just makes it easier. But
it's a two part question. So if there was something
that you could emulate from your brother, something that you
could take that you don't have, what would it be.
And on the flip side of that, if there was
something you could extract or alleviate from your brother to
make his life a little bit better, what would that be?
Speaker 6 (58:08):
I think in plate Franklin's ability to process and understand knowledge,
he is one of the smartest people I know, which
is really cool. And then take away from him, I
would take away having to grow up with three brothers
in a very famous band for most of his.
Speaker 8 (58:28):
Life, publicated thing to navigate. Thanks, Kevin, that's really sweet
of you to say, I would say. I. I mean,
I've always wanted to play guitar, not just play guitar,
but play guitar as well as Kevin, I think that's
that's like an easy answer. I definitely wish I could
have Kevin's confidence. That's something that I think that I
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wish I had. I would also alleviate some of his
like intensity, like meeting to go over to the house
next door where he's building. Every when I was over there,
I was at his house for two days. Half the
time I was there, he was next door. Even if
there wasn't any workers there, he was just checking everything.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
You guys, Thank you so much for coming on. It
was so fun talking to you.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
Oh, thank you guys so much. It's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (59:24):
Say hi to everybody for us.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
All right, thank you Bye,
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Ravalry, No, no, sibling. Don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good. Holy shit. Guess who's back. Guess who decided
to show up? Lady the Talented, Maybe Grammy winning at
some point in her life.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Kate.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, allie. It's it's
so nice to see you again.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm so happy. I'm so glad you made time to
come on my show, our.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Show, any any time, any Oh my god, I missed this.
I was.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I was kind of upset because we had this podcast
today and then literally a couple hours ago, you were like,
I can't make it. I'm like, what are you fucking
out of your mind? We haven't done one in a
thousand years. We have to do this and it's the Jonas,
it's two of the job bros. I was like, I
can't do this alone.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I canceled paddle boarding. I'm out probably one hundred and
eighty bucks for the paddle boards. But it's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'll shoot you requests, but I'm really excited about today. Well,
first of all, I miss you.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
We didn't even talk about how we just went on
epic vacational with our families.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, yes, we haven't done it in so long.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh my god. It was so much fun. It was Honestly,
you're reinvigorating for family togetherness because, by the way, to
be fair, it all went really smoothly. No one fought.
Everyone had the best time. It was all everyone was together,
the cousins, the grandparents, the brothers and sisters. Fucking the
(02:14):
most fun I've had it in a long long time.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And we did so much in like two and a half.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Cakes thanks to Kate, because Kate's like, O, Kate's nine am,
We're up. We've got this. We going on this tour.
The part, oh my god, we got bikes riding around
spetsis the whole island. I'm like, holy shit. But in
a toast that I sort of made at the end
of the trip, I thanked her for pushing us because
the minute that you get there and you're actually experiencing
(02:41):
and not just sitting around, it changes the whole game,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, it's all I love you.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
No, It's true because like I always say, like if
you're on a trip with a bunch of people, organize
the things and then either come or don't come, you
know what I mean. Like it's like and then there
are certain things that sometimes I'm like, no, you have
to do this. It's going to be fun and let's
just go. And I know you're a little hungover, but
we're biking. We're biking the islands. Yes, which was the best.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, you couldn't bike.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Because what reappened was I was on a little ATV
and then our friend Jamie's bike broke down. So now
I just squeezed the three people on ATV and I'm
like humping the gas can. I'm like literally sitting on
the gas can. It was a bit of a struggle.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Oh and then I mean we were you know, you
cut your foot open. We had to go to like
the one we defined one doctor on the island. Like
it was like, yeah, it was adventurous.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh my god, it was anyway, that was that was
a blessing.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It was so fun.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And now we're back, you're you're the Colorado.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We get to be together again shortly.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I can't wait, yep.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
This is actually exciting for me because as I as
I have known Nick and Joe Jonas throughout the years,
I've never met Kevin. I never met Kevin, and I
only met Frankie Jonas once or twice.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, and a long time met Nick. I worked with
him on Scream Queens. But I've only met Nick. I
haven't met any of the other bros.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, and they're and they're awesome, and their family is
great and the mom and the mom, the parents are
great and really really cool, great family.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
This is gonna be that. I'm excited, especially with Frankie
and Kevin. How far apart they are now a fighteen
years on the show, so it's just an interesting dynamic.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And they have the show there on their third season,
which is amazing. And and yeah, let's just get into it.
I have so many questions. I will listen. I know
a lot about your family.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah you want to. Yeah, that was a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It was a long time ago. But I got to
know your brothers very well.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
But it's exciting to talk to you guys and get
into all of this stuff because because freaky, You're like,
you're the.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Baby I am. I am the little little baby boy.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
For sure, you're the surprise. You were, you were the surprise.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I was surprised a surprise or stake. Yeah, it's a
mistake or surprise, Like.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I wondered that myself for many years.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
I think I think it can be both things, which
is great, and that's when you it's all about the
way you look at it at the end.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And we're very happy and frequent in our life happy accident.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
We'll call it a happy accident.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I like that, And keV, aren't you the oldest I am?
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Yeah, So me and Franklin are actually thirteen years apart,
which is really awesome. So I say it this way
when people ask and they're like, oh, that makes more sense.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Like he was four and I was driving.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Wow, yeah you know, and you say it like that
and go people are like, oh, okay, it's a different thing.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
So we lived like separate lives for so long.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
But I think, as you know, I don't know if
you feel the same way, but like as you get older,
like age becomes like less and so I yes, yeah
it was so drastic at that point, but then you know,
later in life, it just doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Our relationship really blossomed later.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well before we get into your whole family upbringing and
all that. Just now that we have you too, So
how did that work out? Meaning, you know, at what
point in your siblinghood did you finally kind of come
together in that age gap you know, decreased where it
was we're homies now.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It was definitely with this show.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
I mean, once we started filming this together, I think
we had to spend more time together than we'd ever
spent that's solo.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And so I think that through this we really created
a relationship and sort of.
Speaker 8 (06:55):
Found our own little path as brothers and friends, which
has been really special.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That's cool. I mean, Katie and I are only two
and a half years apart, but it's not dissimilar, you
know to what we're doing with our podcast, where we
were always tight, but this has definitely brought us together
more often, always communicating, always sort of talking, always in
each other's faces, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So it's great.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
It's a good way to connect, and I think that
was really fun for us, Like you said, like being
able to work together when we don't when I work
with you know, the two other guys every day, see
them more than enough, but then be able to do
this with frank was just awesome.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Well, the funny thing, Oliver is ten year, ten years
older than Wyatt, and there is a different kind of
relationship that happens once you get like I think, once
your past, like the seven year mark, because when you're seven,
I think you're still in the house a little bit longer.
You know, you still feel like you're kind of growing
up together. But like ten years old, I mean, because
(07:55):
I'm seven years from Wyatt, but ten year to thirteen
year difference, I mean, you know, it's it's a substantial,
especially in the development of your brain. I mean, at thirteen,
your hormones are raging. Your brain's in a completely different place.
The last thing you want to do is deal with
a little baby brother.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
It was like I think that was I think that's
actually why we weren't as close, to be honest, Like
I think Franklin was very very close with you know,
Nick and Joe growing up, you know, as those families were,
because I spent essentially kind of similar to our relationship.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
It's nice to meet you in person, Kate, right, Like.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
We I was kind of living outside of the bubble
of la and like I was in New Jersey and
and I, like Danielle, were kind of setting up our
life here with our kids, and that was what I
was focused on.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
And I was doing that so much.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Earlier than everyone else in my life, and I kind
of like felt almost like it's odd, but I almost
felt like the outcasts for living that life because no
one else was doing it yet so streng and then
everyone caught up.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
It's just interesting how like it's all about your perspect perspective.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Are you know you guys on those same level playing
fields now, or are you the elder statesman? Will you
tell Franklin no, dude, hey little man, fucking listen.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
To no, no, no no.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
When we when we work together, it's you know, it's
just me and him, Yeah, unless unless he's saying differently.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But I don't know, no, no, no. I think you know,
you're totally right.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
I think that there's definitely some times I definitely think
that regardless just because of the age, and I think
the maturity and also hosting right is something that Kevin
has done before and I hadn't done before the show.
I think there definitely is like I look up to
him in a lot of ways, and I go to
him for advice or go to him for uh even
like some constructive criticism on how to do my job
(09:43):
better because I trust him so much. Right, I think
that that's being the younger, younger, younger of a family
of very successful people. You realize after a certain point
that they're they're that well of knowledge is there for
you for a reason.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean, how old were you guys when you started
the Jonas Brothers.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
So this year, actually next year will be twenty years
of the band, like our first second great right, So
I was I left high school around like juniors, like
senior year, actually senior year, and it was one of
those weird things where we kind of just like I
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was out of the out of school at that point.
I think I was like sixteen when we started like
really doing things. But like the band didn't take off.
You know, it takes ten years to be an overnight success, right,
so like it was a while. But like our first
project that like got traction was like, you.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Know, five years later, how old was frank How old
were you, Frankie?
Speaker 8 (10:44):
If Kevin was sixteen, then I would have been like
three or four really, And then we moved to la
and like that was really the quantifier for me of
like it's happening and life is changing, and that happened
when I.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Was five or six.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Well, so I was just thinking like like when when
Frankie was born, were you guys already kind of it
was like, you guys are these little like three pack
you know.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
You already had years and years of just us, right,
and so it was cool. It shook it all up.
Joe was really like I want to hold a baby,
like have you know? And I think that's so interesting
because it's like they still have that. Like he just
went to Europe with Franklin just went to Europe with
Joe and like they just like kicked in with his
girlfriend Anna and like it was Franklin's girlfriend Anna, and
(11:30):
so it was just like awesome, and it's like that
relationship is still there.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
I think it's trans all these years, which is really cool.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It makes it it's funny. It also makes sense that
Joe is the one that was more like the baby.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Yeah, nobody had no I mean like I just spent
a few days with Kevin in New Jersey and that's
something that was really special. He he gave me my mullet,
which was great, and I think that as we've grown older,
it's just been interesting to navigate finding that the different relationships.
And you know, because after five years, I think it's
(12:06):
five years, you become an only child, and so that's
been an interesting thing to navigate, being finding an individual relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
With each of them.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, that's such an interesting different place, you know, for
you where it is having individual relationships with your brothers,
because there really wasn't the four pack essentially, you know
what I mean, you have to kind of navigate those relationships.
Do you four of you always?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Do you ever?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Do guys get together?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah, four you do lot. He tries to as much
as we can. It's it is hard, right, Like everyone's there.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, Joe's got spot in Miami, New York and then
mixed to LA with his family, and then I'm here
in New Jersey, so like we're everywhere, and then we
work together constantly, but we then go so many different
directions depending on where everyone's you know, posted up and
families are.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
So it's it's pretty hard. But we we do a
lot of family stuff together.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
Like, yeah, we at least tried to make it a priority.
But I mean last year Thanksgiving was the first time
that we had had everybody parents, grandparents and also the
like all the nieces, all the granddaughters in one room.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That was the first time.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
There's a lot of Jonas girls going like happen.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I was about to say, are they all nieces?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Yeah, every single one of them. So my mom got
four boys and now she's got five granddaughters.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
So it's pretty great.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
That's exactly what happened. That's Danny, that's my that's my partner.
So Danny is three brothers and they all are just
having girls. There's three granddaughters.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
There's like it's there's so many girls.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And my.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Brother and sister in law, Danielle's sister, she also had
a girl. So like when even though the cousins come
in too, and it's just like there's more. It's it's insane.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
My dad wanted all girls and he kept trying so
and I am the last try at the girl. That's
why you waited that long. It finally convince my mom
and so now it's like all this payback coming do Yeah,
able to do themselves an overwhelming number of girls.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That is awesome.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
I guess what's really interesting about this is, like, Frankie,
your perspective, because you know, I mean growing up you guys,
weren't you in where did you grow up?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Jersey? And then moved to La and then La right
and and.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
So you were five and then and you guys were
already pursuing Kevin. You and Joe and uh and Nick,
we're pursuing music.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yeah, it was just like we were growing up in
the church at that point, like playing music.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But then like Nick was my mom was.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Pregnant with Franklin when Nick was on Broadway.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Yeah, his first big performance was U or one of
the his first really big performances was Beauty and the
Beast and he was in he was like in rehearsals
while my mom was birth to me Christmas Carol.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Yeah, so like she was driving into the city nine
months craignant bringing them to the show and then had
a newborn for like the next five years while he
was doing all these different shows and Joe too doing
LAVEM and I was doing that at that point, like
we started doing like commercials here in New York.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
And like that whole like vibe and just got crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Because your family and your parents are in the arts,
or a little bit.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
It was a friend of ours that had a hair salon.
It's so Jersey that it's ridiculous hair salon. And my
brother was singing in the salon, which is like ridiculous,
and so he was singing and then this lady like
turned around in her chair. It's like out of a
movie and was like, you should know who'll meet this
(16:09):
lady named Shirley Grant. She was a kid's talent agent
back in the day. She was here in New Jersey
because I think your son has something you can you
can work with my my son, nephew. I'm not sure
what she said, but is is on le miss and
like miss on Broadway. So my parents ended up taking
Nick and we all got like she wanted to work
(16:31):
with all of us and that was the beginning of
the journey.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
But Nick was like doing Broadway, that's.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
What he wanted. Wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And then but you and Joe didn't have that same.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
It's funny Joke's all he wanted at the time was
to be on all that, like he to be a median.
He wanted to make people laugh and he didn't want
to sing. He thought it was the most uncool thing ever,
and then of course he ends up doing La Ba
m On with bas Lorman, which is a total like ridiculous,
but he got this roll he could sing, which is crazy,
(17:06):
and then he could and then we all know joke
and sing and so like the thing is, it's really
funny how the thing you hate is the thing first
job he gets.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
He got a durful Dodger and Oliver like an off
rollway thing.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
And then but it's funny like I was the one
that wasn't doing the singing thing that and I got
like I got work almost immediately because I looked.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
It was my mom gave me.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Do you remember the the frosted tips, like the frosted
hair tips, Like course, yeah, we all did it back
and so like I had that but.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Like early, like young, I was cool, but I got
made fun of all in high school, middle school at
this point.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Like it was like they call they called me piss head.
It was really really funny, it was.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
So yeah, so like I was dealing with that.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
But that's the thing that got me the job, which
is so of course the the.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Justa position got But so you guys are like young
and in it like child actors and were you all
were all pretty supportive of each other.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Oh yeah, at this point we were like this is
so cool, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And then Frankie, what was your perception of this, like
from the young men, I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You were still breastfeeding. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Know, but I mean I mean as you started to
get older, because I would think that like your whole childhood,
like we could get into you know, Kevin, you and
Joe and Nick and like what that felt like.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But we're talking to you guys, which is you know,
you're like you're a baby.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
They're often running, really they start to you know, and
then really when you start to come into your childhood,
you've got your brothers are like big music, a huge
music act.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah. I guess the question is when did you realize like, oh, ship,
it was a house.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
And we live in a bus. I think is when
it really Yeah, there was there was a few moments.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
I mean, like a lot of my like fondest memories
from when I was a really really young kids. First
memories were in you know, a big white passenger van
going between like Dare Not to do drug assembly tours
that they were doing in New Jersey, and I don't
you know, I don't really remember any of the Broadway
days just because I was so young, but I do
(19:27):
really like my first memories are all really from their shows.
And I think first time that I really realized that
life was going to change from the very small level
of staces that I had gotten used to is when
they did their first commercial as a band.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
It was the baby Bottle Pop commercial, and it was when, uh,
it was it was.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
Just a very big moment they did, like they did
the baby Bottle Pop song and uh, my parents brought
me a.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, they made it. They made a bigger bigg and
on that same trip, I think it was the same
trip they were on Hannah Montana and like that was
my favorite show as a kid. My first celebrity crush was.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Was Hannah, not Miley, but Hannah, and it was I
was obsessed and so it just Uh, I think that
was the big moment for me where I realized that
life was going to.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Be very different.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Did you look up to it? Is this, you know?
Because this is what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I think at first it was.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Hard, just because I was a kid and I didn't
really realize and the only thing that I could think
about was moving away. From my friends, and I look
back and I always say that I really wanted to
be like a towny, like I like, at that point
in my life, my image of life was like staying
in the same place, working at the seven eleven, or
like working at the Ritas.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And staying in New Jersey.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
And but I think, no, once we got to la
and we're living that style of life that was so
different from being like pastors kids in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I very quickly acclimated.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Were you pulled out of New Jersey when you had
your friends and you had established your life at that
point as much as Okay, so you're six, So there
wasn't any like I don't want to leave, this is
my home. There wasn't a lot of for us.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
You're ready to get out of there, right right?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
L Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
The first time being told we were moving, I definitely
felt a sense of like sadness, but then very quickly
was like, oh wait, I were moving to l A
and like gonna be on Disney Channel and going to
be touring and whatever, and and so the morning process
was very short.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
What was it like being a pastor's son? How does that?
How is it growing up with a pastor as a
dad work out for you guys.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
We had a cool because we don't know anything about
what that must be like, you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Know, just we're rebellious, just naturally we're boys.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
It was, you know, it was kind of preparing us
to be in front of a lot of people all
the time and having a lot of pressure. I think,
I think, to be fair, I think that was my parents'
path and that was their journey, and I think it
was an incredible time in our life and growing up
in that environment. It's like the first family of a church, right,
So like you're front, You're sitting there and you can't
(22:28):
you know, you're not messing up, and you're you're trying
to do the best you can. But then there's a
lot of pressure and a lot of unnecessary pressure and
you feel that. But at the same time, with that pressure,
it is where I learned to play guitar. So like,
at the same I'm grateful for it one hundred and tenfold.
So like there's like there's a balance to everything.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
It's just type look at it. But like I I
remember growing up and my dad getting this job and.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Moving back to New Jersey and at this point we
were living in Dallas, and I remember coming to New
Jersey and it's just felt like a whole new world.
And I loved it here and still live here at
this apart of it, this is my home, and I
think that's part of it.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Yeah, Kevin and I are the only brothers to actually
be born in New Jersey. The rest of them were
born elsewhere but lived most of their life in Jersey.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Was there was there ever pressure to to not to
live to if you didn't want to go down that path,
if you didn't want to sort of have religion very
strong in your life. Were your parents okay with that?
Where they look, hey, this is us and you need
to do you I.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Definitely it was more of like when you're younger, I
don't think you really get a choice about much of
your life, right, Like exactly, you're like being you're in
that environment that yeah, this is who you are. As
we became adults and made our own decisions, of course,
they were respectful of anything you would do, you know,
like they were just like there's pressure. And as the firstborn,
I think I felt way more than Franklin ever felt.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
About to say.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
We had very different parents, you know, the same people yeah,
it was like it was an interesting.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
We left New Jersey and you left being a pastor.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
I think they were just like that who like a
little bit of a weight of that pressure fell off.
But then it just it just transitioned I think into
my dad like working with the band.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Like yeah, it was like one of our.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Managers and you know, so like I think he took
a lot of that excellence that he we into our
the band. And sometimes I think that actually was difficult
for us because we're like we saw these kids that.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Were like rebelling in music industry, you know.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
And or being a certain way, and like they're getting
so much like love for that, and like we're like
goodie two shoes over here, and so I just felt
like weird.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
It was like this weird like pressure that kind of
transitioned into our band in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That's so cool. You make such an interesting story. Interesting
point though, it's like you had two different parents and
tell you.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
I made I made Kevin jealous on many occasions because
our parents were so lenient with me with is shoes
that they were very not lenient with I think I.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Think it'll be honest with you, I think That's probably
why I had conflict with them for a little while
and just like what the hell is this? At the
same time, like now as a parent of two girls,
like I'm like, ah, yeah, just doing the best you can.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You don't know, you're just making.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
This as you go along, totally, totally, You're just hoping
it all works out.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, you know, your parents were like quite involved in
the beginning, Like you said your dad. Was that a
good thing? Did that feel like it was a helpful,
trusting thing or did that also? I mean a lot
of times when parents get into that, like you know, role,
(25:35):
it can become very challenging.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Unlike most I.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Would say, and I'm just not speaking to everyone, but
I would say, unlike most people, my father was actually
kind of qualified, Like he was an increasing credible singer,
Like he can quote you like every top ten Billboard
thing to the last like one hundred years, Like he
was his wealth of music knowledge and understanding, and you know,
he grew up singing country music clubs like nightclubs his
(26:01):
whole life.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Like like he he lived.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
He like he got it right. And I think I
think with.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Anything when you work with family, it's complicated, right. There
are good, there are bad. I don't know, you guys
work together. I'm sure there's good and then there's bad.
Like it's just what it is, right, So, Like what so,
I think as we got older and I think there
are some things. I think we just needed to kind
of venture on our own, like anybody does.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
And I think but the time we.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
See as him working with us, I'll never regret. And
he still is like an advisor to us and we
call on him to, you know, for input.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
And you know, ideas, and like, yeah, he's he's much
more a part of our environment now, I think than
it ever was before.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Yeah, it's also that's actually really interesting because it's also
just as a parent, you want your kids to be
their own people, right, So after a while you're sort
of like, you guys need to figure this out.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
There's that too, which is like you really want your
kids to be able to work with, to have other.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
People out in the world that they can work with
and know how to manage those things as well and
navigate it. Yeah, you know, height of like Jonah's brother's
fame and then Frankie, I just want to know, like,
did you feel left out when that was happening.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Yeah, I mean it was their their height. I mean, Kevin,
you could probably answer it better. But two thousand and
eight to twenty ten I think was the period where
it was like.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The craze that was insane.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah, that was I think the real, like the
real meat and potatoes of it. I mean, I didn't
think it was the first rise.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
I feel like there's been like two ways, which is insane.
Now we're in this other thing that's like better and
bigger than it's ever been.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
But like, yeah, agreeing with that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Frankly, that was like the beginning.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
It was eight right, Like you were that that.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Line down the street for a show at four am
for Good Morning America, a thing that was happening.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and the beatles Mania of it
was definitely happening at that point.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
How did that feel for you?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I didn't have any like jealousy or anything like that.
I didn't really.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
I never wanted to be in the band. I definitely
wanted to be in music and to write. But I
think that even from that age, as Kevin putt earlier,
like they were a unit, you know, and I.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Was I was very far afterwards, I was like more.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
Of an only child, and so I didn't see them,
like the Jonas Brothers brand as my my entry point
or the way that I.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Would want to make music. And I'm the biggest fan
of their music.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
I think there is I know it from back to front,
their entire discography, but I think that it was just
never really my my cup of tea to want to
join or be a part of that.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I think that we did a lot together.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
I mean we did Jonas together, we did camp Rock together,
we did a lot of those sorts of projects, and
I was more on the acting side, especially when I
was younger, that was really where my my thing was.
And yeah, it wasn't really my my path. And then
when they came back together, even even then, it was
still like I was working on my solo music and
(29:13):
that was a very different energy than the music that
they released, and I think that I had finally found
sort of the music in the voice that I wanted
to do. And regardless, I was I think one of
the first people to stand up and be so excited
when they told me that they were getting back together
and they were working on this new.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Project and what's your music, Well, how does your music differ.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's you know, it's more di y for sure, it's
more indie kind of experiential.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
Uh, it's it's definitely more on It's not for like
a broader audience, I would say, but you know, I.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Think that that's even that still, it's it, dude.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Them being in my life has been such an incredible
well of knowledge for that process of understanding that I
didn't have my ten thousand hours and really understanding.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
That, like you know, whether it be on Broadway or
in hair.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Salons or whatever, or at church, they got their ten
thousand hours and really paid their dues in a way
that I.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Was so excited to learn about.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
And even if you know, times have been different and
they were like, come do whatever with us, I think
that even that I would have probably been said no,
be just because I think the level of experience that
they have, I pray that I one day am able
to get close to just because they have.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
They're such professionals and they're so experienced.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Moving off the path. Just in siblings in general, in
a social one of your four brothers, like, first of all,
how important is that relationship and how difficult is it
to maintain? You know, because you've got to work at all. Relationships.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
It's extremely our It takes work. I think you know,
me and Franklin, we don't spend nearly enough time together.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
Honestly, but I'm happy when we do.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
But the guys when meet you and Nick work like
we will find time where it's not where we actually
hang out and try to take some time, especially on
the road, like once a week, once every two weeks,
like whatever it is, and just be like just hang out,
like actually do something together, like whether that's you know,
we golf a lot together, but I mean, like truly
like do something just us, the just three of us,
(31:36):
just to make sure that we're like not just getting
lost in the mix.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Of it all.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, because you guys all communicate differently too, right, Everyone
has their own specific relationships with each other, which is
which is an interesting dynamic.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
It's too interesting, honestly.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, Like there's certain brothers you might be able to
be more open with, you know, and sort of spill
your heart. There's other ones that maybe have better advice
where it's like, oh, I want to go to you
for this.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
You know, you're also all very different.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
That's an understatement.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
We are the most different.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Really, it's wild, how different?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
How so?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
How so?
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I mean it's like the character versions of ourselves. If
they're going to like write something in a in a mix,
like they really are, have to be a character version
because that's the only way to describe how we're.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, we I don't know if you guys know
about like the four archetypes of like the hero, the
the what's the media, and the escapegoat like the lost child.
The way we fit into those four categories.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
So we're not let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
No, we're not unique, but we're very we're very unique
in other ways.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But no, we hold on, hold on. So so who's
who would you say is the most reliable? Like you
can rely on this person like you can Canick, I
could have I can one.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
It was there was.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
There was one time when we went over to Nick's house,
me and my girlfriend. She was vegetarian, and he ordered
a bunch of food and he when it came and
I was like, oh, is there like a vegetable option?
And he the way his face dropped because he realized
that he hadn't ordered a vegetarian option going forward for
(33:27):
even now she's not vegetarian anymore. He will still order
her a vegetarian option wherever we go, just because he
like remembers that moment so well and because it's such
a such a nick nickism.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Mm hmmm. Who's who would you who would you say
is like the wise old al who do you think
the one that people like respect their advice and say, okay,
well this person sort of has a little more intuition
than than the others.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I might also say, nick on that one.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Only Franklin's answer, that's all right, That's what I said. Like,
remember I was outside the mix. That's why.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Who's Who's the one to go to jail? Who's going
to jail first?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Probably me?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Who's the most emotional of like vulnerable? Okay with vulnerability emotion?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
You know, I think Joe is definitely open and you
know when he can be and like really let you in,
like he's you're you're all there?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Mm hm.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Who's the most like who's the most cryptic? Like you're like, man,
this dude's holding a secret.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
What this guy Kevin is is like a like a
zodiac riddle. He's you got a really good.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
This actually brings up an interesting sub which is.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
You know, Kevin, you got married really young, like you
you right, I mean you met your you met your wife,
you were I mean, how old were you?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I was that how old?
Speaker 7 (35:11):
Was like twenty.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
When we met?
Speaker 7 (35:16):
We were yeah, when I met nineteen years old. She
actually walked in.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
She's drawing something for her bachelor her sister's bachelorette party.
Actually I can see her working on it diligently.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Hill. So yeah, So I mean you were young, and
then you had a family really young.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
You know, we went, we knew, we were just like
this is it, let's do this then, you know, and
I was pumped.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
But then we had our daughter, our first daughter, Elena,
in twenty twenty fourteen five years old.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Now, so like while you guys were still young, like
you kind of branched off outside of your little the brother.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
We we got married young.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
We kind of knew we wanted to and then we
just like we were like, you know, let's after about
a year of traveling and living in LA for a
minute and her house, we were just like I knew
we were at this time still in the band. So
it was it felt like the right thing to do
was for her to be have her ecosystem around her.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
When I was happening.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
So it's either she's alone or with my family or
you know, something else. And so like it was one
of those weird things where like I just felt like
it was better.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And then Franklin was like an uncle. I was like
an uncle of like ten.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
So yeah, I'm so I'm only when Alina Kevin's first
daughter was born. I was only a year older than
Kevin was when I was born.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Crazy, it's weird.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Nuts and and so I mean, I think I think
what happens. I mean, this would be like my armchair
like psychology assessment of this.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
But what happened.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
What happens when you meet, you're a partner, and you're young,
is that it does kind of ships to the dynamic
a little bit, you know, it can that became.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
That became my because my outlet was my escape. It
was where I wanted to be, and.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
So like that became a best friend everything.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
So you know, we've been married now for fifteen years,
and so like it was crazy.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
It's incredible and the fact that we have a growing
life together and you know, it still changes.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
I think we talked about this recently. We feel like
sometimes it is kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
A lot of people say that when you get married
young at times, or you meet your person like you
drift apart. I actually think we grew up together, which
I think maybe that worked for us and what we
both needed.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
And that's how I feel. And I you know, it's
not saying it works for everyone but worked for me.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, definitely didn't work for me.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, but you know nobody, but it's like to get
on a case by case basis.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
No, I've been I've been with my wife for twenty
three years mare seven, married eighteen, amaze and look I
got together with her twenty four. But you know, it
always takes work. It's never just perfect. I mean, you're
always working at that shit. And that's how you grow together,
you know what I mean, That's how you can You
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can always make the choice if love is there, of course,
if the foundation of love and respect is there, you
can either grow up, grow apart, or grow together or
do a little bit of you know.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
So I think.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Communication is also massively important and I have to work
on that constantly every day because I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
That like reacts really fast and then.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
Has to retract and go okay, yeah, actually feeling like
I'm like a I can't help it. I think it's
it's fortunately for a long time, still work someone like
we have a moment, I'm just like say snap real fast.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah yeah, no, oh no, I relate to that.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
I said it yesterday we were talking about something that
I just couldn't get past it. I was just like,
you know what, okay, restart, like just for reset, like
reset it all, and yeah we can just we're moving
forward here, but reset, Like no.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I know.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I had the same thing where Aaron was supposed to
pick up these antibiotics, you know, because she was like,
I'll get them on the way home. I said, okay, great,
and then you know, she comes and said, did you
get the an about it? She's like no, like oh
crazy like that. She's like what the fuck? And I'm
like you and she's like, chill out. And we got
(39:32):
like a little scuffle.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
Because I really like happened to me yesterday.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
It was, oh my god, it was. It was so simple,
Danny Dan, we're building a new house across there. There's
a lot of questions to be out.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah that.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Like you guys they say, building houses is like it's
like one of the top reasons for travorce.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
It's not as simit to our relationship, don is.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
We've done this, this is our ninth yeah, and built
a lot of houses together that storm.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
I also say, I also think at the end of
the day, like it's always a woman's house, like you
just we got to have the final say, I'm just.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Going to say, right up.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I literally go.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I walked in and I showed her two different colors
today about something.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
I put it on her desk. I go, I know
what I would choose, and I'm like, tell me what
you want. You know, Like I'm like, I don't care
you want this wall move? Oh, this is awful, Like
let's go.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well that that's why it works. It's when people try
to like control.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
It's like, at the end of the day, there's something
like enless unless the woman just hates doing things like that.
But if a woman really wants to build her home,
like you gotta look like you have input. But like
if there's something where a woman's like, no, there is
an opening in the kitchen and it's going to look
like this and it's going to tile all over it,
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there's no fight exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
No, it was so simple, like we have these like
we're When I say we're building across the street from
our house, I literally mean like actually across the.
Speaker 7 (41:11):
Street, so like actually I can look out any.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
Window and just look at the house being built and
seeing if people are there, and like it's pretty amazing.
It's a little comedian but also problematic because what's happening
is like I'm just going back and forth all day,
you know, and so like it's great, but at the
same time, I'm realizing it's I'm there.
Speaker 7 (41:30):
More than I want to be.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
But I'm literally kevin, I'm literally about to do the
same thing I am. I have the house, I'm I'm
I'm next door, literally next door.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
It's great.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
I put cameras up while we're touring and traveling and
playing shows, and I like at cameras on our current
house looking at our new build and everyone I'm getting.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
Made fun of this a lot by my brother saying
that this is all I talk about.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
But when you build a house. They never built a house.
They purchase homes stuff, they've never built a house. Like
when I say built, I mean straight top, I am
the GC on the job, I'm doing all and it's
like it's like there's no time.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
I was really bad mood.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Right before I got on this this fault because I
found out when I ordered the windows. Uh there's an
entire window missing.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Big window from our Oh no, And now it's you
got to wait like months.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Yeah, I guess, and it's not my fault. They're going
to say it's my fault. And so I'm like game planning.
How I just like y make it their fault.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, wait a minute, how have you built nine houses?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Is just built?
Speaker 8 (42:37):
He moves, he moves, like built every two years, renovated five,
built three?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
But is this part of your business? Meaning like you
like this is a money to do that?
Speaker 7 (42:47):
And realized I was not very lucky with that. I
decided that music is much better.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Career path for me.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
I say, the biggest issue in building because I love it.
It's like one of my past right. I love interior design,
I love redoing houses. I want to do it all
the time. I have people in my house quoting things
all the time. The biggest thing is is that it's
the only one of the only businesses where you incentivize
someone to actually spend your money. You're like, I get
(43:17):
twenty percent on top of everything, and there and then
and then it's like you got some water damage, so
it's going to be another one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
You're like, I'm paying you for this.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
No, No, that's why, like why I literally I started
doing it all myself because it's like I'm going to
make the decisions myself. And I've met and I've moved
amazing people around us that like know what they're doing
and like are the right subs?
Speaker 7 (43:40):
Are the right people to do the jobs? And the
houses amazing. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 6 (43:43):
You know, we have a great team, and I just
I'm so mad about this window thing, like literally could
like put my fingy they Oh god, it just doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
It's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
You've got to breathe it out.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Moving into this house.
Speaker 7 (44:01):
Like this is like for us, we really wanted something like.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Well now, not for months later because of this game.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
It's okay, I can finish pretty much. It won't change anything.
It'll just make me more stressed than I need to be.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Sells analysis.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 6 (44:16):
Why do you feel like like it's fun and it's
at like I don't know, Okay, I don't know if
you agree, but like there's something kind of incredible about
walking into a property seeing like I can look at
a blueprint, I can see what that room is gonna
look like in my head, like I can feel like
I can do that now right like and so I can.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
I can say that.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
And my wife Daniel has incredible taste and so she
has great pick like she pas the most amazing stuff
and like like we we we were looking at like
literally like our like what our closet was going to be,
not our mass like like our but like our like
walking closets in the like just like a normal coat
closet in our four year And the design thing that
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she came up with that was going to fix the
problem is so much better than something anything else I
would think about.
Speaker 7 (45:01):
So it's just like together we're making it's just fun.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
It's the most creative process and it's all it's the
most creative process and it's also like the most when
you really kind of love it.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
It's just talk about like creating an expression.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Like to me, it's like that that's like you walk
into a room and that experience you have walking into
a room and what you can you know, I think
it's why.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
People are so obsessed with these shows.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
It's like I can watch I could watch House Hunters
like International all day long just because I want to
see what people do to these apartments and like you
know Bermuda, like I just how people live and like
what they choose to live in is like kind of
an amazing expression of you know, personality and travel.
Speaker 6 (45:49):
Like the first thing I'm doing is I'm looking at
like the homes in the area when we're like do
like in somewhere random and like, I'm just curious, what
is going on?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Are you going to settle down?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (46:00):
This is our hope. If not, I think we I
don't know. I said we said that.
Speaker 8 (46:06):
I've said this every single time he's moved. He said, guys,
it's we finally found our dream house. And then years
you know, I don't.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
Want to count anything out, but I really am excited
about this, Like I want to I'm hopeful that this
is the house that the girls graduate high school, right,
you know, like that.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Like this is that space and so perfect.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
That's that's an exciting place to be too. I just wonder, like.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
Who's the one that, like, let's say the ship hits
the fan, is going to be the one that's going
to be like, Okay, this is what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I've got a plan.
Speaker 7 (46:44):
I don't know if it's for everyone.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
Like, you know, I think if I'm being real, I
think we depend on each other, Like there's not one person.
Speaker 7 (46:56):
I think you're a family. I think I think at
the end of the day, like it's a.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
You.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Everyone's got a job, you know what I mean. Like
it's not like there's a one person that's going to
fix our Like it's I think we were too we
have too much crazy personalities for that.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
How about how about this is kind of how about
if there's a zombie apocalypse right, like who's taking what
role and trying to sort of survive?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
And you know, that's a great question.
Speaker 6 (47:27):
I think we at for roles like I'm logistics king,
like if I'm if I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Talking about like you're mapping out how to get to
the coast.
Speaker 7 (47:36):
But you know, I think Joe is trying to make
dinner out of berries in the woods.
Speaker 8 (47:44):
I'm like going on runs into the city and then
like sneaking around and stuff and supplies.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, building a wall around wherever we are.
Speaker 5 (47:59):
So like if there was an earthquake. Whose house would
be the most prepped?
Speaker 7 (48:04):
Well, mine's going to stand up a long. It's because I'm.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Building it, But.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Like who have the most Like who who have the
most supplies?
Speaker 8 (48:13):
I have a disaster prepared inness, kid, but that's exclusively
because my girlfriend wills me to have it. So she Yeah,
she's the one who's prepared for We moved to LA
and it was like we were looking at houses and
we couldn't find I would show her be like, oh,
this place is amazing. She'd pull up her phone. Nope,
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that's in a floodplane. Can't do that, and then would
go like she knew every piece of possible disaster that
we could incur.
Speaker 6 (48:41):
So I think Joe is a hypochondriac, So yeah, he
would be prepared the most, I think because I think
he would be like worried about everything.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
So Season three, Claim to Fame yep, Now explain how
this came about?
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Like, like, how to this happened?
Speaker 7 (49:01):
It was kind of crazy.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
This company was making this show and in their original
pitch document to ABC, it was me and Franklin and.
Speaker 7 (49:11):
This is a placeholder. I think ABC thought they had
us attached.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Which was really.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
Worked way too hard to make it the deal work,
but luckily it did and that so they came to us.
They fish us the idea and they asked were like, hey,
would you want to work together on this? And I
was like, this is you finally get to do something
again together and yeah, Joe for you know what it is,
Franklin you I always say it says the best, give us.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
Your give our listeners, the elevator pitch.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Yeah, it's just the neo baby Olympics. It's just the
neo baby Olympics.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
We have.
Speaker 8 (49:50):
Once we get in like the logistics, Kevin's better at
I just I'm able to sum it up and that
really well.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
But we have it's basically able to have.
Speaker 7 (49:59):
Well people in a room to in a house together.
They live there.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
They are all related to a celebrity in some capacity.
You don't know who they're related to. They don't know
who they're related to, and the goal is to try
to figure it out. They get at the end of
the episode, they have a guess, someone that's decided as
the guests are. As a guest, they get right to
stay in the house.
Speaker 7 (50:18):
They get wrong. They kicked out.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Cool, I love it.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Wait you should go on the show, So I think why.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
So so so?
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Then what happens when they win?
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Like? Who, like what there's one hundred thousand dollars on
the line?
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
And it's in its third season.
Speaker 8 (50:43):
It's in It's this third season. We've had a we've
had a good go of it. We're really enjoying it.
This season is bigger and different than other seasons. This
season we had some of the most iconic names we've
had so far, yet somehow they were harder than any
other names that we've had.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Oh interesting.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Season two we.
Speaker 8 (51:04):
Had a pretty viral moment that people know about the
show from the first episode of second season where the
niche of of Tom Hanks.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Had a oh yes, a bit of a little thing.
Yeah yeah, and uh wait what happened? I remember this.
Speaker 7 (51:27):
And then started like just screaming and tearing up the
house and like it was.
Speaker 8 (51:34):
Oh no, blocking herself in closets, hysterics, Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
You set me up. The art department wanted to be
off the show.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
My clues are too easy. Every I'm the most famous
person here.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Oh my god, So do they have to like clean?
Does she like clear that with Tom Hanks and being
like hey, I'm going on this show or.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
That we know that, Like this show is.
Speaker 6 (52:02):
Really like lighthearted and super fun, and you'll see like
most of the celebrity relatives like are now sending videos
in to like if they win or if they you know,
get kicked off, and they're like revealing who they are,
so like you can see that people are like supporting
them doing the show, and some like prepare them to
be like on camera, like they're like helping them change
their entire identities.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Like it's really it's kind of fun.
Speaker 5 (52:24):
I feel like, one I really uncle Mark on the Mark,
it'd be really funny on the show like that.
Speaker 8 (52:32):
We haven't had an uncle or an it yet, and
we've been we've been pushing for it. We want an
uncle or an at for like a parent or a grandparent.
I've been pushing for that.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
How much input do you guys have?
Speaker 7 (52:43):
We actually, luckily this is like.
Speaker 6 (52:46):
Truly we get to just be the host and do
that and uh for now, but then beyond that, we
don't know who anyone is. We actually requested that we
don't know, so we get to play long and like
anytimes one was revealed, like we're experiencing it just in
real time, and everyone's like, well, how do they keep it?
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Like, how do they not know?
Speaker 6 (53:05):
It's like, well, then we take away all cell phones.
They're sequestered. They're like they're living in a bowl.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Right, fun, I'm gonna watch this.
Speaker 8 (53:13):
I'm gonna have some some instances where there's somebody who,
to the audience, right, is so obvious. And it's second
season particularly, there was one guy who they tried to
guess him off two or three times. Nobody could get him,
and at home episode one, people were just outraged by
(53:34):
how obvious this person was.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
So you looked like, did he look like the celebrity?
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Identical? Identical?
Speaker 8 (53:41):
And so Yeah, but just because it was from an
older generation, nobody already got it.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Right, I've loved talking to you guys so much. I
don't want to keep everybody much like, but I do
want to make sure we do our like a bit
of our speed round please.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I already know one of the questions, which is celebrity
crush at least for Frankie, was not Miley Cyrus but
Hannah min Yeah, it was Hannah.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
It was Hannah. Yeah, absolutely, Kevin, what.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Was your celebrity crush?
Speaker 7 (54:25):
Like I don't even know growing up.
Speaker 6 (54:28):
Growing up, it was like always at first like Disney
Channel show was like Hillary Duff on Lizimmire.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
And then first kiss, oh.
Speaker 7 (54:39):
First kiss, high school girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
High school girlfriend. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (54:46):
Thank It was my neighbor in LA when I was
like twelve or thirteen. She moved in down the street
and it was a it was a summer love affair.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
Oh isn't the first kiss? So scary?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Mine was act sheally freaked out. I freaked out because
this girl, her name was Nicole and I won't say
her last name. We were living in Colorado and she
was older than me, and I heard this rumor that
she was going to kiss me at lunch. I was
in fourth grade, and she chased me around like outside
in the you know, in Colorado all of her girlfriends
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and pinned me down and sort of like eating my
face off, and I was screaming like no, no, but
at the same time, I kind of like sticking my
tongue in there. And then I was devastated because there
was a room. There's a rumor going around that she
only liked me because my parents were famous, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
So.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Dar yeah, okay, which brother was the nicest growing up.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Oh Joe, yo Joe.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah, sweetheart, sweetheart, baby boy Joe.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
And this is too different for each one. Which brother
picked on you the most?
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Franky picked on me the most? I think probably Kevin. Yeah,
probably Kevin.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Which, if any brother might have perfect pitch?
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Nick?
Speaker 7 (56:20):
I think Nick's pretty close.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
It's pretty close.
Speaker 5 (56:23):
Yeah, that's an amazing thing to have and also can
be like incredibly challenging.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
Nick seems as some gaining. Nick seems like kind of
you know, the golden boy. But but what's Nick's worst flaw? Like,
what does that dude need to change in his life?
Speaker 1 (56:41):
Ask him?
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Yeah, brothers go bad.
Speaker 7 (56:46):
Like you don't give advice to brothers.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
That's true, it's true.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
We just we know down just to praise each other.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yeah, what is your favorite Jonas Brothers song? Frankie?
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Oh favorite?
Speaker 5 (56:59):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (57:00):
I have an unpopular favorite song that they don't like
that I like.
Speaker 8 (57:03):
But there's a song that they that is from another
it's the only one they don't play on the current tours,
and it's Don't Charge Me for the Crime featuring Common.
Speaker 7 (57:17):
Classic Oh Nice, just to piss us off.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
No, I genuinely love that song. I think it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
And Kevin, what's your favorite song to play?
Speaker 1 (57:31):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (57:31):
Wow, favorite songs? I really like playing the song Strangers.
It's just so fun. It's it's just an awesome moment any.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Time we do it.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Okay, I love it. Last question all you want to ask?
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah, well, just with the two of you, because it's
only two of you, which just makes it easier. But
it's a two part question. So if there was something
that you could emulate from your brother, something that you
could take that you don't have, what would it be.
And on the flip side of that, if there was
something you could extract or alleviate from your brother to
make his life a little bit better, what would that be?
Speaker 6 (58:08):
I think in plate Franklin's ability to process and understand knowledge,
he is one of the smartest people I know, which
is really cool. And then take away from him, I
would take away having to grow up with three brothers
in a very famous band for most of his.
Speaker 8 (58:28):
Life, publicated thing to navigate. Thanks, Kevin, that's really sweet
of you to say, I would say. I. I mean,
I've always wanted to play guitar, not just play guitar,
but play guitar as well as Kevin, I think that's
that's like an easy answer. I definitely wish I could
have Kevin's confidence. That's something that I think that I
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wish I had. I would also alleviate some of his
like intensity, like meeting to go over to the house
next door where he's building. Every when I was over there,
I was at his house for two days. Half the
time I was there, he was next door. Even if
there wasn't any workers there, he was just checking everything.
Speaker 5 (59:17):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
You guys, Thank you so much for coming on. It
was so fun talking to you.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
Oh, thank you guys so much. It's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (59:24):
Say hi to everybody for us.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
All right, thank you Bye,
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