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January 22, 2024 60 mins

Talk about next level Sibling Revelry. This week we chat with identical twins who married identical twins and live almost identical lives!Apparently, four ISN’T a crowd for Briana, Brittany, Josh, and Jeremy...they live in the same house, raise their kids together, and navigate being twin-laws. How does their DNA play into the extended family dynamic? Do their kids ever mistake mom and dad for aunt and uncle? Are their sons cousins or brothers?? Who made the first move and how did this foursome find their sibling groove?? 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Ravalry No, no, sibling. Don't do that with your mouth.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Revely.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's good, Oliver Hudson.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
That is me, Oliver Hudson.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Today we have something I'm actually really excited about our
guests today because this is an insane story.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's an insane story, and it's going to be one
of the most insane podcasts. Just a warning, trying to
understand who is who and who's talking is going to
be difficult, but we're going to figure it out well,
and Kate will tell you why.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Today we have Brittany and Brianna Dan. We'll ask her
to pronounce this Dan Sliers and Josh and Jeremy Sallyers Sailers.
We're going to ask them to do this too, to
pronounce their names. And they are twins, identical twins married

(01:23):
to identical twins. Interesting, fascinating. I can't even wait to
get into it. I think this is going to be
really fun, but we're going to have to I don't
know how we're going to do. I think we have
to say their names. I think I have to be like,
how did it feel? And you're gonna be like Brianna,
and then I'm gonna be like Josh, and then you
make Jered. Also, I'm going to Brittany and Brianna and

(01:43):
Josh and Jeremy. Like even the names.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
What were their parents thinking?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Let's just call them JB's, the J's and the beasts.
You know me?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Now we have to separate them because we want to
know their stories anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I can't need to get into this.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, I know, I know, and and we'll talk about
it's so interesting because the girls.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Their lives are parallels. This is what they wanted.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
They were looking to find. This that they wanted to
marry a set of identical twins.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I think that's what happens when sisters are like so
close and they love each other so much, which I
wouldn't know because I was only raised with all of
you know what.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Everyone's going to be all cheery about this, this union.
I'm going to get into the the nitty gritty. It's
to like what the issues are. I want to know.
I want to know.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, let's see first, if they're willing, they share. They're here,
they're here, let's bring them on. This is so much fun.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Oh my gosh, you're so excited to be here. Thanks
for having us.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Kate.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
We wore yellow for you, yes, and you, but we
got stopped, and How to Lose Guy in Ten Days
came out and you were wearing your yellow cover. We
got stopped everywhere we went and people were like, your
trip is Kate Hudson and we're going to meet her
one day.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh cute, Well, here we are.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Maybe next time we will actually be in person, which
would be even better. But it's so funny because I
was just telling a story about how to Lose a
Guy in Ten Days because I were, you know, we
put some lights on and then I.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Start to get hot.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
She sweat.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I sweat really easily, and so I started, of course,
putting tissue under my armpits. And then it reminded me
of the scene and how to Lose a Guy in
Ten Days with Catherine Hahn when I take Matthew to
therapy and I put the tissues under my arms, which
was an ad lib for me. It was I just
did that because I I didn't want to ruin my
outfit and so and then it.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Ended up in the movie. And so that's where we're
just talking about.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Okay, so hold on, I want to set this scene
up for a second. We got Brittany and Brianna or Brianna,
which one? Brianna and Brittany. Okay, so let's set this up.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
You are identical twins, Brittany, Brianna, Brianna, Brianna Brianna.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
And then how do you pronounce your last name?

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Were the Sallyars twins? Saliers is our last.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Name, Sallyars. So Brittany and Brianna. Yes, then you end
up meeting and marry, marrying Josh and Germany. God, you
are also identical twins.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
That's it, there's this, The stage has been set.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes, So, ladies, where are you from? Where were you
born and raised?

Speaker 5 (04:27):
We were born in Florida, but we grew up primarily
in Delaware.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
And do you have other siblings?

Speaker 5 (04:33):
We do, so we're the oldest of four and we
have two little brothers.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
And they are not twins.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
They're not twins.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Did you ever hear from your parents what it felt
like when they knew that they were going to have
identical twins?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And did they know right away?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
You know, they they were shocked. They were shocked. They
always thought it would be really cool to have identical twins,
and they found out that we were coming, so they
do not know what it's like to have only one child,
since we're the oldest. And our dad was in the navy.
He flew in the navy, and he had like the
story goes that he had some like big test or
something the next the next day and our mom like

(05:12):
calls and tells him the news. I'm not just like pregnant,
pregnant with twins, and he was like, oh my gosh,
it was up, you know, just like his world had
just changed, and he like bailed the examine, like the
profet and the show instroductor, and they gave him another
chance because they were like, oh my god. They're like
this dude needs something.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Really, They're like, he needs a day.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
They had some compassion, meaning like, holy shit, this guy's
having twins. We need to test him.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh that's so funny, especially like did and and you.
I mean, I don't know the technology at the time.
I'm sure they could tell they were identical as well.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Right, Yes, they knew that they were having identical twins
before we were where we were born?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Isn't that wild?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, my one of my very very close friends
just had identical twins who then my friend bench wearing
he had identical boys and he.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
We welcome them to the twins and multiple families.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yay, there are neighbors and we were like when when
we all found out, everyone was like holy shit, and
he was like in shock. It took more than a day.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
It took him like a couple of months to recover
from the fact that not only then he started thinking
about which I'm sure is what happens, Like what happens
if I don't know which one is which?

Speaker 6 (06:31):
And he'll be a sort of tying ribbon or string.
I think that's a common thing for the babies, because
you know, they all look very similar. But you know,
I think it's possible that a lot of twins had
been mixed up at that stage. Sure, and you know,
just went along the rest of their lives as the

(06:51):
other person. It's true. I have no doubt it's happening.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Oh yeah, oh my gosh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
And so and so Okay, So, Jeremy and Josh, where
were you born and raised?

Speaker 7 (07:05):
We were born in Knoxville, Tennessee, and from there we moved.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
To several places.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Our dad was in the Air Force, so we went
from Tennessee to Alaska, to New York, Arizona, and then
back to Tennessee to uh after retirement.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
So both your parents were both your fathers were in
the military. Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
We also have two siblings. Only our two sis are older.
We have older brother and older sister.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
So it's probably a little bit worse for our dad
when he got the names. The third one is coming
and now it's going to be a fourth. I'm sure
that was traumatic. Well that's from me when I think
about it.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
You know a lot of people thought maybe we would
have twins, you know, twins, Mary, twins. Really they're going
to have a couple of sets of twins, and you
know that sounds awesome. But then once you have one,
and you know you've gone through that for a little bit,
like wow, so we had four once, that would just
be it would be wild, that'd be a lot more.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's that is that is a lot now now growing up,
did you feel like did you when you were able
to know that being an identical twin is a rarity,
that it's a special thing. Did you feel that when
you would see people like people's reaction to you, do
you always feel that whoa you know, quality of like

(08:27):
walking through life right with each other.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
You're like a celebrity at birth basically because people are like.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Oh my god, oh you do think feeling that you're
talking about as far as like everybody kind of oh wow,
look at this. Yeah, you feel that it's kind of
a full time thing.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, and you guys just decided to double up on
that by marrying identical twins.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah, right, right, So it's now it's just like more
of what we because people would ask us that like
were you aren't were you worried about the stairs now
for the rest of your life? And you go out
and it is magnified now, But there was always something
from when we were little. People would kind of like
all of us said, it's it's celebrity on a smaller scale,
especially when you're identical twins, because people stare, people ask

(09:12):
invasive questions that are just you're used to, and people
take pictures and so yeah, that was that was definitely
going on when we were little. Yeah, I feel like
with being identical twins, I realized from a really young
age that it could make you instantly popular, and it
could also do the opposite and make you instantly an outcast.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Can we rewind to people taking pictures? I need to understand,
Like someone just randomly will go up to you and
be like, can I take a picture of you?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Why are you and why did you do it? Like
a Southern.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I think I just heard Tennessee and I went right
to like, you know, I heard like knox Vale, and
then it just went like.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
This, yeah, I heard Russian.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Can I take.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's a mix of many.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
No, I think that does what happened.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I just clicked into Nashville. So they just come up
and they literally asked to take a picture, and they
just like, I wonder what they do with it.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
It's a question. Look, you're twins.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
You really show it to well.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
To be totally straight up, if I was out to
lunch and I saw you guys having lunch together, the
four of you, and then like you like kiss sugar,
you're kissing your I'd be like, holy shit, man, look
like yeahs.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
When we go out, people stare and what like even
taking pictures of the four of us together. I understand
that totally because it's unusual. You know, I definitely don't
see it very often, so it's understandable.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
No, it's right because like if you guys walk all
like holding holding hands, and like you guys are holding
hands of your you know, spouses, anyone would look and
be like, am I going.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
To their minds? You don't? You don't. They don't always
verbalize it. Some people will, some people will ask, but
some people you could tell that they wonder, but they
just won't ask. Oh, you'll hear them talking about it.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Right, you guys should, I must give you so much
pleasure just because like I would, I would go so
far with this.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
You guys, You guys should fuck with everyone and you
guys hold hands, and then you girls hold hands and just.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Walk down, just keep it real weird.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Let me let me ask a question though, because I
guess there's a I don't know if it's a choice,
but obviously some identical twins will choose to sort of
really be connected and coordinate clothes, lifestyles, everything, and some
want to rail against it and and individuate. You know,
did you guys to all y'all, did you guys have

(12:00):
a moment where that was a decision or was it
just you just grew into each other in the way
that you are a little bit of both.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
We absolutely went through stages where we hated being called
the twins, we hated dressing alike. We just it wasn't
really resented it, but I think resented maybe how other
people were about identical twins. So we absolutely have gone
through stages where we did not dress alike. I hacked
my hair off. Oh gosh, it was so sad you did.

(12:32):
We were going to be different. I hacked my hair off,
and I'm like, you know, then I'm that twinn.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
You know.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
I frosted my tips at one point he did you
know where.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
You pull it with the hook that thing and it
didn't go well, and uh me.

Speaker 7 (12:51):
I think it's a natural thing for for probably most
identical twins at some point in the life to kind
of go through this struggle with that, you know.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Or like experimenting with it, you know, to see, you know, I.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
Think it gets pushed on you to have your own identity, like, well,
you should have your own identity.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
Well, we do have our own identities.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
We each have our own individual identities, you know, even
though we're living together.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
And you know, we all are this one cohesive unit.
We are individuals.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
But but but you choose to wear the same clothes,
is that is that was you? Every day.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Clothes make you an individual. So we are no more
or less identical twins if we're wearing the same thing
or not wearing the same thing. And so I think
we just kind of have fun with it, and a
lot of people don't realize, like all of our and Kate,
so like Brittany and I, we always got into fights
when we were young about clothes because for example, we

(13:52):
are getting ready to come meet you to today and
it was a big you know, it's a big deal,
So what do we wear? Well one of us we
would both want to wear the yellow dress. We would
both want to wear it, and one of us would
get to where it would win. That means someone else
lost for the day, right, And it caused problems. So
it got to a point where it was like, let's
just both wear yellow.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
What about what about you guys? Like you're wearing the
same henley, which is easier, right, And uh, it's just.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
I think it just makes makes it easier just getting ready.
If we're going out together, we're doing things together. Yeah,
we never really argue about what we're gonna wear. Neither
one of us really care. And that's the problem. Sometimes
you needed one of us wanted to, you know, pick something,
and but uh, a lot of times it just happens,

(14:42):
uh naturally where we'll Yeah, we definitely come out of the.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
Same stuff ifout talking about it. But yeah, you know
if we're before getting dressed, you know, to go somewhere. Yes,
ually gonna wear the same thing.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Actually the first one that goes into into the closet
will grab, uh the outfit for both people.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
And just what if one of what if one of
you has been like pumping iron and you have all
swole and the other ones like I've just let myself
go and you're like, dude, I cannot wear the muscle
tea anymore, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Like we would compromise for that. The trip is not
to not let it get to that point. We have
to stop before we get there.

Speaker 7 (15:24):
That's another kind of struggle, I guess, is just trying
to you know, you don't want that to happen. You
don't want to want to live in the gym and
the other one live on the couch.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
And then yeah, that's an interesting that's an interesting question actually,
I mean, do you guys motivate each other and push
each other, not talking with just with exercise, but just
with health, with wellness, with mindfulness with a Yeah, that's
one of the interesting So.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
I think you know, in in each one of our research,
he likes to do gardening and more about natural foods
and stuff, so you know, he can provide things that
the rest of us can't. So we and each kind
of contribute as far as like health and uh and
wellness or concerned. Yeah, we definitely push each other to eat,
to eat better, you know, and things like that.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
So on a very deep level. To go along with that,
I think even subconsciously, we don't want to be without
the other. We you know, it's so I think we
both want to stay healthy. We all four want to
stay healthy for each other.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Right, Look at like the spouse protection factor. That's a
real thing. You know when you're people that are married
tend to live longer because their spouse will push them
to get checkups and you know things like that. But twins,
uh are have a tendency to live longer also, But
they think it's because of that same factor, but it's
just your twin, you know, giving you that protection factor

(16:42):
because they're looking out for you.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Basically, you both have a just set up you have.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Let's get into that a little bit, because it's very unmatched.
I mean there's a lot. I mean you are very
Not only are you both married to each other's siblings
identical you know, twin siblings, but you live together, your
children are three months apart. Yes, And I want to

(17:20):
understand and more.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Depth, like how did well? First of all, how did
you meet?

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah? Yeah, because I read about it.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
And then we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I read about the girls were like like I would.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Never want to live with Oliver.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Let me just like, let's start with that, like it
would drive me insane to live with Ali and Aaron.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I mean, I don't think so. You'd have way more fun.
She'd be laughing all the time from morning until night.
And then then I cut years off your life because
laughter and joy is actually bad.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I have plenty of laughter and joy in my life.
And I like and I like my I like my.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Space, and I like things to be clean, and I
don't like so much stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't I don't have much stuff now.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You got rid of all your stuff.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Anyway, this isn't.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
About us, Okay, I just don't know if I can
handle it.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
You'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Let's talk about how you guys met.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
No, well, and I just want to say that I
love it. I know we will, but I love that
and correct me if I'm wrong. But I was, you know,
obviously doing my research because I do research. And uh,
you guys wanted this. This is something you wanted.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Relationships. And when we were growing up with Singleton's and
I guess you know, through those experiences, we realized that
if we were going to have marriage, it would it
happy with twins. And we knew that the two of us,
so it wasn't necessarily that we were like going out
in the world, but actively seeking it. Yeah, you know,
but we knew that that was going to be the

(18:48):
only way if we we always lived together, work together
all through our whole life.

Speaker 7 (18:54):
We we Uh So we heard about a twins festival
and our mom has mentioned it several times throughout life
that they have this twins festival ahow every year.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
And I'm not sure.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
What made us want to go finally check it out,
but yeah, we went and it wasn't the reason for going,
wasn't We're going to go find a set of twins
to date and all that. But it was in the
back of our minds we.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Knew that that the potential was there. Yeah, find it
would be a good place to find them.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
If okay, so, so describe hold on to describe the
moment when you saw them who went up to home
and then the whole decision making process is like, well,
they look the same, but I'm kind of feeling her.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of fact.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, yes, how did this work out? Give me the
whole rundown all them?

Speaker 6 (19:43):
On the first day of the festival, with the first
gathering we went to, we saw them from across this
gymnasium where everyone meets at the local high school, and
uh so, you know, obviously we thought they were beautiful
and wanted to talk to them, but there's so many
people there we could really find the opportunity then, and
uh so me and him were just like, well, we're

(20:03):
just gonna go back to the hotel and and uh
and hang out till the next thing. And uh so,
apparently at that time the girls had already seen us,
but uh oh, yes, so apparently they saw us, So
I'll let them tell you about what was life for them.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
So we're sitting in the gymnasium the orientation at this
annual Twins Festival, and we're sitting on the bleachers looking
down at the Sea of Twins. There's just wow, hundreds
of sets of clones around and I just all of
a sudden spotted them, and I grabbed Brianna's wrist and
I was like, oh my gosh. And she immediately her
eyes went to them too. She was like, oh my gosh.

(20:46):
She didn't have to finish the thought right because I
looked out. I knew exactly I saw then see them too,
Josh and Jeremy, and I know exactly what she's talking
about who she's talking But let.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Me let me stop real quick, because usually you're looking
at an individual or two people who are different and
you're picking. You're almost a picking one. You're making an
unconscious judgment immediately. But did you look at them as
an entity, so to speak, in that moment, Yeah, that's
what it's like.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
It is. Yeah, at the first when we first spot
at them in the Sea of twins. So when you're
spotting a set you're spotting a set of twins, right,
So at first I'd said, yes, what an interesting way
to think about that. Yes, Then when they got to
talk for the first time, which was the last day
of the festival, Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
See them for the entire festival beyond that first day
until the last night. There's this after party that they
have at this hotel nearby, and me and Joshua went
and I didn't see them there, and we're like, let's
just go go ahead and go back to the hotel.
We'll pack up, we'll go home. We had to work
the next day, so we were ready to go. So
we were heading out of the hotel through the main

(21:57):
lobby as the girls were coming into the hotel. So
we were just the four of us, you know, alone
and that spot, and we asked if we could get
a picture with them, just hoping to get a picture
at least, and uh, then we started talking to each
other and we naturally split off in pairs at that time,
you know, were we just kind of gravitated toward one another.

(22:17):
So it was a match off.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
Into two conversations, and it just happened to be that
they're they're the first born twins and Brittany and out
of the second one, we're five minutes apart.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
They were also five minutes apart.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Wow. So so that's kind of beautiful in a way
because it was almost this sort of unconscious sort of
split off where it was like I think a lot.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
Of people wonder how that works. Yeah, but yeah it was.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
It was the group, you know, the four of us
talking and then it just broke into two conversations. So
it's hard to say exactly at what point in the
conversation that happened, but right, and.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
Then it did happen, And I think that's the first
time we're interacting and talking. Is it is that is happening?
Then it's individual. Well then it was definitely Jeremy and
Brian over here, Brittany and Josh over there.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, and and so then how did you exit that moment?
Like did that continue into like, oh, let's have a drink,
let's continue this night, or was it like did you
exchange numbers? Like then what was your first date altogether?
Like what how does this work?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
What's crazy is they have the same phone number. Yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
So we got back to Tennessee, we drove back, we
got home, and Josh sent Brittany a message on Facebook
or something I think, and saying that we couldn't wait
to see them next year at the festival, and Brittany said,
why wait till next year? And so me and Josh

(23:44):
drove to Virginia from Tennessee because they were living in Virginia.
We were in Tennessee at the time, so it was
like a seven hour drive or so, and drove out
there and all four of us went on this double
date together. And yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
When like guys would just like they'll just do it
those in the car and drive to see you and like,
what can happen all those hours?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Who made the first move first, who like kissed too first?

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Maybe by like an hour? Right? I remember that this
sounds funny because this we wouldn't do it like this
when we were dating singletons, but like all four of
us kind of like pile on to you know, we
went to Twin Lakes first, Well, we went to Twin Lakes,
but I'm saying, like when we got to the point
of like the first kiss or like holding hands for
the first time, so our first movie, all four of

(24:33):
us are kind of there together, like watching our first
movie if I remember Chris right, right, guys right.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
And then.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Then it's like then we're going off like each couple,
but like the actual date and everything was together. But
we found out that Josh did kiss Brittany and then
Jeremy did kiss me, and so we beat them to
it by just a little bit. We always think that
Jeremy and I was just like when we were born first,
and so they kiss first.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That is so cute, so real quick, I want to
go back. Singleton? Is this what I am?

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Yeah, that's what you guys are saying. I believe it
still says it on your birth certificate under uh yeah
what your birth is categorized as singleton or twin. Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Wow I always I always thought I was just a simpleton.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well you you are that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Wow, this is I just learned something. I'm a Singleton.
That's cool.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Got to love it.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I'm trying to figure out, like how do you walk
through life being so it would be like, you know
what happens when one couple gets in a fight and
like or like was there.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
A moment where maybe.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
One couple was feeling it more in the beginning than
another couple and then like like did someone want to
get married earlier than the other.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Like, how does this all?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I guess, because right, because timing almost has to work
out perfectly. Yeah, oh I want to get married. Are
you asking? Are you going to ask her to marry you?
Like yeah, yeah I am, well I'm going to do
it too, like okay, you know, or I'm not ready yet,
you know. I mean, these are real human questions that
have to sing.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
And we knew that we were going to get married
to them when we first met them. We actually told
their mom that when we got back from that trip.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Yeah, we said, we said that to each other on
the way home, told our mother that we found these
twins and we were going.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
To get married to them eventually. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
Then it was just about getting them to want to
marry us after that.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Was there wherever any reservations between any of you guys,
meaning like oh god, I know you're and it was
just so synergetic, synergetic, like synergetic.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Yeah, it just there wasn't. I just I don't do
any kind of doubts.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
No, the stars it was just the stars just aligned perfectly,
I mean, and the timing aligned, as you said, for
all four of us, because right, a lot of things
do have to align, right, We all four have to
be single, right, no one can be married obviously I
want the same things and be ready and then heaven
we were all on the same page, right.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
So did you get married together?

Speaker 8 (27:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Yeah, So we did a proposal. So for the proposal,
it was at Twin Lakes State Park, where we had
our first state and we told the girls that they
were doing a commercial for the wedding venue that they
had there, so they had to wear like a gown
or something they were wear to a wedding, and we

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wore a suit and uh so we had Inside Edition
was there to film it, and they filmed a couple
of fake scenes of us at the park, and then
we got to this pavilion that we played out some
rose petals and both of us dropped one knee at
the same time, asked at the same time, and and
they said yes at the same time.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
The same ring.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Same yeah, custom custom ring.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
Oh yeah, it's both to infinities, you know, twine cool.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
But we got married six months after that at the
festival where we met, uh in the town square in
front of all the other twins.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Uh, twin professional, this feeling, aren't there moments like even
just hearing this, like and and and I say this
in the in the most loving way, where you're like,
I'm feeling like there's too much twinning happening, Like don't
you have moments where you're like, I don't I want

(28:52):
something to be mine, like alone, you know, outside of this,
outside of the foursome, because you know you also were together.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Correct, Yeah, I said, We.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Went through that a bit before we met them. So
we went through fighting with each other. Usually it was
over guys we didn't like each other's boyfriends or right.
To be clear, we didn't fight because we wanted the
same guy, we thought because we didn't like we didn't
like they were dating or there was some weird just yeah. Yeah.
Part of it was that we were scared that the

(29:23):
other one was going to ruin the twin dream for
the two of us, Right, you're getting too serious, and
that now you'll blow our shy of finding you know,
identical twins that can really happen, and to go back
and forth with you know whoever. It was like, well,
you're going to ruin it. And so we did a
lot of fighting before we met them. We actually get
along better now that very true.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
It also made our relationships stronger, the two of us.
You know, we fought growing up and stuff too, like everybody,
I guess, but yeah, since we met, I think, yeah,
we were. It's just better for all of us. I
think all of us are better twins now.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, well, I guess.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Also, so you have someone who really truly understands what
your entire childhood was like. And also, I mean I
would assume that the connection.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's almost like, Okay, I might, I might, I might.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
You know, I might not get this right, but yeah,
I might destroy this metaph Yeah we're.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Keeping this in no matter what to say.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Now, well, it's like, let me put it this way.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
It's like, we don't change it.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I won't.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Okay, when you have a child as a singleton, and
you have a child and you're married, once you have
that child, it's like, you'll never love anything more than
that child. And if that relationship doesn't work and you
end up in another relationship, that person has to know
that there's nothing that will ever come in between me

(30:51):
and my son or my daughter. And I would think
that when you come into the world with a twin,
and especially an identical twin, that can connection that you
basically came into the world with that and if anything
and anyone knows, like like your first and foremost, like
it's different from me with Oliver, like a man would
come before Oliver if you were my identical twin and

(31:15):
we had that like depth of connection, we came in
the world together and we did.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I mean, so you're saying that identical twins have better,
like deeper, more meaningful relationships and than singleton singleton siblings.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I think maybe that.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Well, it's it's more like a depth of like an identity,
like an understanding, a really deep understanding. You go through
everything together this you know, you go to school together,
you're in the same grade together, you're going through puberty together.
Like everything you're doing is together. And then it's like
if some random guy or girl comes in and then

(31:50):
kind of fucks with that relationship, then then it's problematic
for the one thing that matters to you most, which
is your sibling.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, your identify very.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Well said, very well said. I think that is absolutely right,
and we've tried to kind of explain that to people
who have the question. It's when we all became parents.
Of course, it was new and everything, but I don't
think we were new to the feeling that you just described.
That is a feeling we have always had. Right then

(32:22):
you love this person. And also I think I was
more probably more careful and safe like my whole life.
You know, some people become parents and they stop, I
don't know, Yeah, going skydiving and things. We always had
that because I had to live for my twin and
vice versa, and Josh and Jeremy understand that and have

(32:43):
that with each other.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
It's like it's like it's like when you guys are
going through something as sisters. I'm sure they give I
would assume that they have a deep understanding of the
kind of space that you need to work out whatever
it is that you're going through, saying.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Never any arguments between like me and him are arguing
or they're arguing. We know, to basically just kind of
stay out of it more or less.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
What the work itself out.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
You know, on its own. You don't need to get
involved in that, you know. Yeah, the twins way to
do that, I think good way to like make up
after fighting and things like that.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
Yeah, normally just carry on about your business and don't really.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Say anything else.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Live in the same house.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is awesome business. We have a
that we that we run together and we live on
site here.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oh I see, oh cool?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Who is the better bedrooms identical?

Speaker 6 (33:47):
But I think there's just a little bit bigger.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
I think you guys have the bigger one, Jeremy, You're right,
I think they did.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
But what about the bathroom?

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Own bathroom?

Speaker 6 (33:58):
They have a better bathroom also.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Thank you, you guys have been met that they have
the better back. We have the bigger back. I don't
know if it's better, but yeah. We are fortunate in
that we live on site at this huge property, so
we know that's you know, we can share the ballroom,
you know what I mean, there is space, They're not
right on top of each other, and I think that
is helpful and important. We do get although it's like

(34:22):
this huge mansion and we'll all be like, you'll find
it's like all these rooms, all these rooms to go in,
and we'll all be kind of like right here in
one little space half the time.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
And how many kids do you have? Just the one?

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Each couple, you know, has one little boy and we
raised them together. And I wanted to say so I
had heard Kate Oliver that you had mentioned that like
you maybe have different parenting styles and that you kind
of take turns being like the fun uncle or whatever,
and then there's like the you know aunt, Kate, and

(34:57):
I thought that was so interesting because it made me think,
I'm like that with our other nieces and nephews. But
with Brittany and Josh's child, I'm not looking to be
the fun aunt. I'm looking I'm another parent, yes, and
so it's like a different feeling. It's we're raising the babies.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Both are children, you know, and yeah, they're they're more
they're genetically more brothers and brothers than they are cousins.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Wow, that's right, their DNA is they're saying.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Right. So wait, so they have two moms and two
dads basically genetically I smell us Cab.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
His son he has blonde hair like the girls, and
there's son Jet has dark hair like us. So it's
like one of the one of them and one of them.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I mean they're basically going to be their brothers. I
mean they're literally so we raised them as brothers.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
When they refer to each other, they say, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Do they call you both mom and both dad?

Speaker 6 (36:05):
It's mommy and mommy and daddy and Doda, so.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Like Ammy's for aunt.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Mommy and Amy got it, and so do they did they?
How old are they?

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Brother so just barely turned three and about to turn.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Three, so they're little. So so as far as biology goes,
they don't. They think of this as one big, happy
unit rather than like, that is my mother and that
is my my.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Sometimes still say to two daddies or two mommies, they'll
acknowledge it.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
This is.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Oh my god. I know, as long as everyone's on
the same page. Imagine if everyone was not on the
same page, complete chaos. You almost Yeah, you have to kind.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Of all really have like me, like mommy, mommy, emmy
meetings like you guys have to all like sit down,
especially as they get older, because look, they're both gonna
have very they're gonna be very different even though they're
well or maybe not, maybe not, but.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's going to be interesting, like so interesting.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
A lot of examples of it.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
Either, I mean, yeah, yeah, we don't. We don't have
anything to look at. So yeah, that seems like a
good way to do it, because.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
I mean, and let's project yourself into the future a
little bit you've got like a pre teen. They're starting
to act out a little bit. They're a little stinky
and rough and crazy. Let's just say maybe they won't
be We'll see, but like.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Who's going to be the disciplinary and.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
More like tough.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Mom?

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Hmmm, have to be honest because they can't parent shop.
That's gonna be you don't allow parents parents shopping. So
I'd say maybe Brianna would maybe be naturally ever so
slightly more strict, but like in a Merry pop in
strict way. Maybe I would be a touch more laid back.

(38:01):
But I think it's pretty even and we will make
sure we're on the same page. So there's no parent
shopping parent.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Parent of shopping meeting like, oh, you give me ask
the other one.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, I can't. I never heard that. I haven't heard
I love that is going to give you the Oh
my god.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I think that's almost just a primal thing that happened
from when we early was around. I mean it's like, oh,
Dad said no, all of a sudden, you know, I'll
hear wild to be like, hey, mom, like can i
I'm like, I just said, know.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Ronnie does that all, but Ronnie does the more. Ronnie
goes in for the drama. She comes up to me crying,
I can't have this, Like she goes in, right, it's
not even an ask.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
So is there any Is there? The first of all
was thing with the kids for a second, you know,
is there any do They not? Some times know who's
who or we It's just innate instinctual they get it.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
There's a page. Yes they have. They have been tricked.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Before they have, which is really funny.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
But they usually know. If they're tired, like they see
one of us from the side, they'll get confused, but
they usually know who'se Ammy, who's whose Mommy, who's daddy,
who's Doda? And so they get so stunned with themselves.
There's been a few times when they have mixed us up.
It's like they think it's so funny and they realize,
like I thought you were.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
So I have a traumatic experience. I'm going to share
with you that my mom was doing this movie called Protocol,
and she had these sort of doubles and and the
double they look they dress her and look exactly like her,
you know what I mean. And I remember because I
was little, and I remember going up to my mother

(39:56):
and having some sort of an emotional situation, and I
like grabbed him like mom, and this woman who looked
just like my mom from behind, like turned towards me
and looked down. He's like, yeah, she.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Didn't sound like that. I don't know where it was.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
A man, but I remember that moment because it was
like shocking to me, you know what I mean that
I was sort of emoting to this person who then
turned out not to be my mother. I still have trauma, but.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Oliver gets trauma easily.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
It just sort of just anything seems to be a
traumatic existence.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
So do you guys, is there any pressure to always
be together?

Speaker 6 (40:44):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like, like, if you guys look, life is long and
relationships can be difficult. I know that you guys say
relationships aren't work or or shouldn't be work for you guys,
you know, you know, which is an interesting way to
think about it. Like I think relationships do take work,
but not in a bad way.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
They do. It's not fair to say that they don't
take it any work. But it shouldn't be. I mean,
it's not miserable work, you I mean, no, it is,
of course, yeah, but it's you know, it's happy work.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Right right, you know, it's good, you're just saying.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
The other piece is that we had Look, we did
meet to we were all already we had already hit thirty.
When we all met, we had all been dating singletons,
you know, and so we had been through relationships where
the twin thing was was work. It was such work
because I always felt pressure. Honestly, it wasn't pressure to

(41:41):
like be together. It was like pressure to not be
with Brittany because maybe I was dating someone and some
are understanding, but like maybe they didn't like that that
was my other half. And so then I almost felt
like I had to sort of like not for tend,
but like appease them in the relationship. So I would
feel like I couldn't be with my twin as much

(42:02):
because I needed to like be with them because they
need it.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
There right now, so that they felt like they were
a priority for you.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Yes, And it was such a and so now it's
like easy.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
So I just just as a side note, when you
guys say singleton, I feel less than It makes me
feel like subhuman, like I when you're sings, I'm like,
oh my god, like I feel that's why you're an
outcast yeah, I feel like I feel like an outcast.
I feel bad about myself.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
But we mean it in.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
The nicest way possible.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
A non twin, non twin, I like a singleton.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
There was a word here that I want to I
want to make real quick.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
So just getting back to that, like, do you feel
pressure to always be together? Meaning if one of you
guys as a couple it's like, oh my god, it's
not working. I'm not saying that would ever happen, but again,
the relationshiphip.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
I guess if I, if I think about that happening,
I would imagine that, Yes, you would feel pressure to
work it out if you were having any any kind
of doubts otherwise you would definitely I would imagine I
would feel pressure, sure to work harder. I guess I
think we.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
Feel pressure to get the other two back together. Yeah, yeah,
the other two would Yet we would parent trap ourselves
and get the other two back together, all right. So yeah,
I mean we are two different marriages. If nothing's ever
going to happen with with Brandon and Jeremy, but Josh
and I would would stay together and we would get

(43:39):
them back together.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
And you guys, it would be.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Your best do you guys talk shit about it? Do
you guys talk about each other? Like I'm saying that
the girls get together and like the fucking guys, God damn.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
It any dynamic. Sure, so once in a while we
can get together, and yeah, I mean once in a while, right,
it's like, Gosh and like on the same team, and
we know it's the same for them. We hear you
guys in the garage once in a while when you're
going you guys, like the couples, like if Brian has
been awful that day or something, and I'll get in

(44:13):
bed with Josh and be like, gosh, she's such a y,
you know, and then vice versa, and he will get
too involved, like he'll be quietly supportive.

Speaker 6 (44:20):
But it does like it.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
But and then like there's this other third dynamic going
on with like we call it your twin law, your
twin in law, you know, like you're then that is
like another like y where like they we both so
Josh and I both know exactly what it's like to
have Jeremy as a partner.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, yeah, and everybody has that.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
So, like I mean, ship talking, that's a little hard,
there's but but to your point, there is that understanding
that you always have someone you can go to who
will understand if you're struggling in a relationship with anyone
else in the house.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Ye are you ever in bed like talking candide about
sort of the other couple, just as you do as
a married couple. And then and then be like and
be like, hey, they don't don't say anything. We just
not say anything, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Yeah, yeah, some of that, yeahsion, you know, discussions about stuff,
yeah yeah, And it's.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Helped, you know, you get it out. I actually thought
that to be one of the one of the best
things about our relationship in the beginning, was finding someone
that was understanding about those aspects of my life. You know,
if I wanted to say something about him to her,
you know, and she would understand because she's also has
a twin, and it seems like the first born twins

(45:43):
and the second born twins, they do each have their
own tendencies, so there there are some differences, so you
can we can understand, you know, the things that we
don't like about them.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
That makes don't they say all those things? But statistics
about this, like the first like how does that work?
Like there was some like one, there's always one twin
that takes more nutrients.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
That's interesting, that's that's definitely possible. I would imagine that
probably the first born, Yeah, twin probably does.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
And then they get you get more of the sort
of good bacteria. The first twin usually gets coming out
more the good bacteria, like there's there's something and then
and then I mean there's some statistics with this with
the first and second they're just like fascinating.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Do you guys think like you're more handsome than the other, Like,
who do you like? You know what I mean? Are
you like better looking?

Speaker 5 (46:41):
No, we all think the other is like better looking.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
But here the thing we all.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Despise when other people say one of you is the
who oh who's the prettier twin? Oh, who's the more
handsome twin? Oh, who's the stronger.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
We have it.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
It's it's very Yeah, it's just it's awful. So away
made us resent that person. Like if they thought they
were getting close with like, oh, I'm going to compliment her,
you're the whatever twin?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Oh yea, yeah, yeah do that, it would make me
the opposite totally.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
That's obnoxious. But I do I think that secretly, you
guys are like one of you is like, I think
I'm a little better looking. Like that. You'll never reveal
or say like like I like, I know I'm better
looking than Kate, but I just say it. That's why
I could. That's why wouldn't be a good twin, because
I wouldn't be the best looking.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I think you are better looking. You're definitely Oliver definitely
has the best look. He needs that kind of confidence.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
He needs to know it's all I have.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
He needs to know how handsome he is because it
makes him feel better about everything else.

Speaker 7 (47:49):
And maybe when we're one hundred years old, well we'll
finally admit that. Somebody will say I always thought.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Her father always said one of the things I remember,
one of the few things remember about our father, and
what he said was Oliver. He goes, how's I remember
one time I ran into him in a supermarket. He goes,
how's all He's still handsome and charming, And.

Speaker 9 (48:08):
I thought, Oh, that's Oliver's That's Oliver's core issue is
that dad always just said, well, if all else fails,
you're handsome and charming, and you got that, that's all
all He's ever leaned on.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, I'm a physical tax. He is a physical physical.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
Give him the compliments she does, like, hey, what are you?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
I'm a quality time and words of affirmation and gifts.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
No, I'm really not. That's my last.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Gifts is not what shows love.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I liked acts of service.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Are you guys the same?

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Yeah, we're both words of affirmation and physical touch and
followed by and Josh, where do you guys?

Speaker 6 (49:00):
I would say my top is quality time. It is,
at least from those online tests. I yeah, I would
agree quality time is. It's probably the most important things
as far as love. Like we just go, you know,
physical touch, words of information than quality time. I like
them all.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, none of.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Us, none of us. You guys are good at acts
of service though, Like you guys are very helpful, Like you.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Guys, I think that's my that's how I speak. Yeah,
that's how express.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Oh yeah, that's very male.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh oh, Aaron, my wife is acts of service Like
that's good. It's crazy if I do the dishes, she
gets horny. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like if
I start doing things around the house and cleaning, like
you know, it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
A good and I definitely don't get horny when Danny.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Gets horny when she gets a gift.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
One thing I wanted to ask about was this word quaternary.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
What is it quaternary quaternary quaternary marriage. So is there
actually a term for this?

Speaker 7 (50:19):
Yeah, they made an actual term for twins married twins. Yeah,
I referred to as quaternary.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Marriage, quaternary marriage.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
And so may be very clear that it's one of
the set of twin marriage to one of the other
set of twins. Two monogamous marriages. Right, that's quinary marriage.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
And this is where there's only three hundred, right, three
hundred in the world.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
That's three hundred quaternary marriages out of eight billion people. Well,
I learned something new today. I've never known that word.
I've never known.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
That, and I've never known a singleton either.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
And I know, what are some misconceptions that the public
might think about this relationship.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Oh? Probably. I think a lot of people wonder, like
with us being separate in our relationships, not just for
people in one relationship, if that makes sense. I think
that people like to think that.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
But that it's like polyamorous, that you guys are.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Just like that's I was going to guess that like swap.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Now you're.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
You got anything? Like the comments on everything. Yeah, it's
it's constant that do you guys swap?

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Have you guys ever? Like mistakenly you know, right, that
kind of Also the codependency thing that people think maybe
that yeah, too dependent on each other, that we couldn't
survive without one another. I guess that it's unhealthy to
be so dependent on each other.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 6 (51:52):
I I don't. I don't think that we are dependent
on one another.

Speaker 7 (51:55):
But we we've chosen, uh, this lifestyle together.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
You know, it's not that.

Speaker 7 (52:03):
I wouldn't be able to function without it. It's just
something that that's what makes us happy, so right, and
co parenting and cohabitating like this is has a lot
of benefits, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
It's yeah, somebody, I mean, look, we I mean, I
hate we live very close to each other. I have
to say there was a time when our kids were
little that we spent I mean it was really, I mean,
we really spent so much time helping each other, you
especially for me, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, No, it's the best, it is. It's great. And
by the way, there's no fucking there's no right way
to do anything, you know, if you're happy and you're
not hurting anyone and everyone's healthy and growing up, you know,
and the way that they should and the way that
you guys.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
Want it made it easier. Our lives are much easier
together than it would be we were separated, because we
want to see each other a lot, of course, and
we want kids to see each other. So you would
just be in one of those houses like you guys work,
So it just makes more sense.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
That's so great.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
That's so great.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
I think like if we I totally agree. I think
that like if we got you know, to age eighty
and I was sitting there as an eighty year old
looking back at my life, I think I would feel
a sense of such regret to have squandered this amazing,
rare gift. She's almost always a gift, not you know,

(53:21):
not always. It's such a rare gift, and so I
think that there's something to sort of appreciating that and
not squandering even a single day. And I think we'll
get to the you know, to eighty and look at
each other and we'll feel like at least there's that.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
That's a great ending. I love you guys. Fine, you
guys are awesome.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
You really are.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
This is real cool.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
So we usually end the podcast with our question, which
is what is one thing that you would love to
emulate about your sister? And then what is one thing
that you wish you could alleviate from her to make
sort of optimize her life?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
And then the same question from you guys, this is
awesome actually with the See that was a good kase
I knew, and I just didn't want to ask what
their first kiss was.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
And say your.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Name before say and you're talking about so that people
can know who's talking.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Okay, I'm Brianna. And if I had to choose something
that I especially admire about Brittany that I just sort
of also exhibit myself. I think she has always been
even though I was first born, she is usually first socially,

(54:52):
and so she'll kind of like lead like that. She's
very glamorous, like I noticed that. Yeah, I think that
she was like the first to, like I don't know,
get us into like make up when we were teenagers
and that kind of a thing. And so I would
say that kind of like you leading socially is something hmmm.

(55:13):
I yeah, I think I would tribute to you.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, and then what would you alleviate a stressor or
some sort of situation in her life that would make
it better and don't say her husband.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Yeah, in this situation, maybe like the stress of like
the world, and like there's a lot of we both
sensed like we both because we're attorneys, Like I know,
you have a really strong sense of like justice and
if we can't, you know, we can't get that for people,

(55:49):
and so you'll you'll like have the weight of like
the whole justice system on your shoulders. I feel like
sometimes so I would take that away if I could, right,
I think that I would. I'm Brittany, and I think
that I would like Brianna's strength. The name Brianna actually

(56:12):
means strong, and I think that overall, even though I
could always beat her in chin uffs, I think overall,
just emotionally, she is stronger and I've always felt that,
and so I would.

Speaker 6 (56:29):
I would.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
I would like that for myself because I'd admire that
in Brianna. And then as far as taking away stress,
We've dealt with some very stressful things with sociopaths and
and that situation. But I would, I would just I
would take away I would take away also, maybe some phobias,

(56:51):
like just some some fears, so that we could just
relax a bit more. I appreciate that. I love it.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
There's so much closer than we are.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I know, so close as well.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Yes, it's a different it's a different, different kind of closeness.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
We have other siblings too, and we're very close with you,
and it feels like we have a brother he's just
a year older.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Than us, and we love them just as much as
different dynamics.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
But siblings are so special no matter what.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
So you're saying this is on us, so we could
be we need to work at it harder.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (57:28):
I think that you just might not realize it, but
we can see it.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
We can see it, so we will need to work hard.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
You realize I agree. I think that you you just
might not realize it, but we can see it. We
can see it.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Oh yeah, but your other siblings think that you guys
love each other the most. For sure, they.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Feel very loved because there are babies. But I just
a different dynamic, right, identical point.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
It's just a different yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, guys, what
what what?

Speaker 6 (58:02):
What are your.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Answers to this luscious question?

Speaker 6 (58:06):
Mm hmm. I'm Jeremy, and if there's something that I
would emulate of Josh, it would be probably his temperament.
I think that I'm a little more like hot headed
or all react more or more just faster to react

(58:27):
or more aggressive in my reaction. I guess, so, yeah,
I haven't having a more even temperament. I think that
I would like to emulate that, And something that I
can take from him would be h mm mm hmm.
Maybe uh. I think we both share this shyness and

(58:51):
social awkwardness in that we're self conscious. Maybe I don't
know what it is, but I think if I could
take away his social anxiety mhm, that I would do
that because it's a lot more fun in life if
you can just be you know, open and relaxed when
you're talking to people.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Great.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
Well, I think that.

Speaker 7 (59:15):
He does a good job of, uh, kind of keeping
things in order, like all of our you know, finances
and things like that, and you know, there's bills all
over the place and things like that.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
I think he does a.

Speaker 7 (59:32):
Good job keeping up with all that, make sure that's
kept up with. I think I would like to emulate
that more. And I guess Rether maybe taking something away,
maybe give give a little bit more patience I think
would affect temperament, you know, So yeah, it's kind of

(59:54):
taken away giving I don't know. Call out whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
So basically you're nuts. You up to handle.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
This has been wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Thank you for joining us and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Sharing with us. This is such an amazing story and
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
This has been so Thank you guys, appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
You appreciate you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Thank you to night, Thank you so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Much, See you later.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Bye,
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