February 3, 2025 • 55 mins
From the hit show 'Hey Dude,' to classic comedies like 'The Wedding Singer,' Christine Taylor knows the ins and outs of Hollywood, but does she really want her kids to follow in her footsteps?
Plus, Christine reveals a secret her brother shared after several years that left her shocked!
And speaking of secrets, Christine talks 'Severance' spoilers courtesy of her hubby, Ben Stiller.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling, Ravalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hey, let's start. What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We already started in the lobby elevator.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Does anyone ever call you CTS?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
But but CJ, c J t H. Well CJ is
what everybody in my close friends and family called me
because my middle name is Joan. Is it which was
my initial screen actor skilled name? No Joan Christine, No Christine, Joan.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Christine, Joan Taylor. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Well my middle
name is Rutledge. Yeah, that was not my screen name,
Oliver Rutledge Hudson. Oh look, speaking of middle names, I.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Was not expecting this professional.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We're in the studio bay where.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
In the studio real and pro.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But when you popped on, we were just talking about
middle names, and uh, I haven't revealed yours yet because
it's not it's an interesting one, Ruttledge. About Oliver Rutledge Hudson.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know you want to give up your middle name.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
But the world know.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
My middle name is Kate Gary Hudson g A R
R Y double R super.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I would have known if I had seen it, I
would have.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Said, from that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Wait, Kate, what is the origin of that?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Uncle Gary, who we never knew, was Mom's favorite uncle,
and so she just decided to name me.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Did she check your privates before she gave you? The
middle name?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Rutledge was my grandfather's name, and Edward when we were
lied to that that we were later the youngest sign
of the Declaration of Independence, who was Edward Rutledge, which
I think we found out was not true, right.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's not true.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We have all kinds. We have a lot of things,
you know, we have so much.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Lord, it's like it's like our great our great uncle
was the head of a crime family, apparently related to
Edgar Allan Poe.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't know. It's all bullshit.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's so nice to see you, so nice to see you.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The last time I saw you was I think for
us a heartbeat at the Was it it was the
US Open, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Or the tennis?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
It was in the parking lot and it was the
big Novak Djokovic was supposed to win the Calendar Slam
yea and did not. Yeah, and we all every we all,
everybody flocked to see it because.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's going to be amazing, big moment.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah, and he got demolished by Yeah really did.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You've probably got to put a ton of letters from
celebrities like I wasted my time to.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Watch this moment.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The tennis matches are so fun, they're so civil.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I've never been ever what, I've never been to.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Age, It's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I love sports. I've never ever been. I really want
to go.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
It is the most I think. It's so much Yeah,
I'm also one of those like I play okay, but
I love watching it and I will watch every return
like the Australian Open is going on right, yes, and
it comes on like the live coverage starts here at
eleven thirty pm. Yeah, you watch a little before bed.
(04:11):
I record it and then I'll watch it a.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Little bit of a So you must have seen Match
Point the Netflix series, of course, Oh my god, I
love it. It's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
It's increasible.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean I haven't seen all of them shows.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, you got to watch match point. It's really great,
really great.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I had this image just looking at you, and I
remember saying this to Ben, your husband.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It was the last time I say, guys.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But I was reading all the research and all this
stuff and realize that Ella is twenty two and graduated
from college.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Well yeah, because we were all pregnant together.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
We were pregnant and had babies. And there was this
one Halloween in New York that I will never forget
because Ella loved to just take all her was off.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And didn't want to wear clothes.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And we have this like big Halloween party with a
bunch of kids, and Ella's running around naked and Ben's
running around after.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Her, going, I don't know what it is, she just
doesn't ever want to put clothes on.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And it was funny because I remember, yeah, it was
we have so many photographs of her naked with the
little ug boots, so it was he's like naked, but.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It was so cute naked.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It was so cute.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And so Ben still her funny that this was his
daughter that he couldn't get to get to be clothed,
and and and then I just thought, oh my god,
she's graduated from Juilliard and she's twenty juilliard.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
He did acting.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Whoat talking to the crowd.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, it's just it's just in there.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
It's like story telling, the storytelling gene or it's just
or you know what, it's just so much fun and
you get to like make believe and like play these
different and character and it's they.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Don't know anything else, Like that's the other thing.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Well, I mean yes, and I think with you guys too,
in particular. Now, I came from a family of non actors.
I'm sort of like, but Ben's parents, Like so even
Grandma and Grandpa would come over and they'd you know,
they'd be doing characters and bits and dress up and
made up names and so yeah, it's what they knew.
(06:35):
And I do think, like, I'm sure there are families
where kids see it and they're like, that's the last
thing I want to do. But you know, they also
got to see all sides of it because they got
just like, you know, Ben is in a different world
than the way I do it. Yeah, the struggles and
the ups and downs and the successes and the failures.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Of course, and yet they still.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Went ahead and for whatever reason in the business that
you're in, or this acting business that we're into, the
movie business. It brings on any sort of trauma, honestly,
then you could move. There's more impetus for them to
move away from it, meaning oh Dad, Mom were like
never here right, like this is not how I want
to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You know. Fortunately, our kids liked us being away.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I guess, oh god, well, actually no, because Mom and
Paul were kids, they never worked at the same time.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, they made a point not to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, we did that too, And I mean, you know
it's really different for me too.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I realized like really early on, and Ben was, you know,
this is the other thing too. At when you know
you have that first baby, you have no idea. People
will tell you everything. But I remember Ben, it was
a very busy time for him and he was like
doing a lot of movies and I remember him looking
at these like offers coming along and he was sort
(07:56):
of like, well, so we're you know, have Ella in April,
and then I could do this movie here and then
and he's like, and you know, it's like then I
can take some time off because like when they're that little,
is it really that big of a deal, Like do
they really even know you?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You don't think so.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But it's the most important time, Like that's that action, right,
the imprint happened. So you know, we made all of
the mistakes, the word of it all have you know,
I mean speaking of Ella, but no, I mean I
think because you know, she being the first, my mom
(08:38):
was around all the time, you know, talking about siblings.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
My brother lived right next door to us.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
So and and we had a you know, babysitter nanny
helping out, and so it was sort of like Ben
was off working and I had this like huge support
system of family and friends and people, and you know,
Ben would come home and want Ella to like you'd
want to hold and she would like, I want to
go to my brother.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, She's like, which one are you?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
No, when when when Rio was born ten days as
my last one. Ten days after she was born, I
had to go to Nashville in Nashville this show and
I was devastated, I mean so devastated. When the car
pulls up and I'm crying and I'm saying, you know what, I.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Don't care if ABC never hires me again. I don't
care if my reps leave me like, I don't give
a fuck, I'm not going.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And Aaron was like, get your shit together, get in
the car. I mean, like everything's gonna be fine. But
it was two years of on and off, going back
and forth, and Rio wanted nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'd be like, come on, baby, she just wanted Mom
didn't take it personally.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Animal had some weird animal sounds. It's not personal.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I' she's actually a lemur.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, it isn't personal. And it's also like then you know,
being there and showing up and then you're there and
then it all changes.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But it does take.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
It takes well before.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
We deep dive into your childhood.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I just want to say that, like, just on the
same path, you know, my oldest son, Wilder. I'm doing
a movie in Toronto, a Christmas movie for Netflix, and
I don't know, I had to say that, maybe so
it sounds like I'm doing something more prestigious, maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Because Christmas.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah I like that.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I like that, Yeah, because I'm like, it's not Hollmark,
it's Christmas, but it's it's Netflix.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, they did a great one called Hot Frosty. So anyway,
you know, I was seventeen. I was seventeen year old
in the show of seventeen year old, and my son
has never acted. He did acting. He did acting class
for six weeks prior the audish and you know, one, two, three, four,
five times and ended up getting the gig.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So he's coming with me for six weeks. And it's
a big part. It's not like a small part. Wow,
he's scared. I'm scared. You know, we're all scared scared
because it's like, what is going on. I just don't
want him to make that face. I just don't want him.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I just don't want him to make that face he
makes when he takes picture. He was just.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Like yes, and You're like, what is this face? You're
so handsome?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Stops like almost like looking trying to look a little mean.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's like he's got like kind of like a poudy mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'm like, first, yeah, but he like bouns his mouth
and he sort of like pulls.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It in and yeah, just like a little bottle thing.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Well, I think that's where I always joked that that's where.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Gotland. For sure.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
It's full it's full on. And so that's the only
thing that I'm scared about.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But anyway, it's like a it's like you know.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Bucket list, the deathbed stuff, where I get to have
this experience with my son, yeah, you know, so much
so that I'm going twenty thousand dollars over my accommodation's budget.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So I get a really nice place to keep them all.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I feel like it's by the way, like what better opportunity.
And first of all, the fact that he auditioned five
times that it wasn't you saying like, hey, I'll do it,
but yeah, you know, my son's perfect for it, like
he really did it, which I think is amazing. So
that's also like putting out yeah, because then if you
don't get it, then you feel a little like I do.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I like these people as much evenore. And then he
hates the project.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
It's never going to see it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I said, his expectations very low. I'm like, dude, chances
are this is not going to happen, right, And then
they like you okay, but now they're asking about how
old he is candidate because there's all kinds.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Of yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then one.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Two, three, Then it was like the director loved you,
but Netflix isn't sold because he's so green, right, So
he had to.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Do it over and over and over again and finally.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Like, well, here, nepotism in the arts is a weird
thing because it's like there's nepotism with like wealth and
business it's pretty straightforward. Like nepotism in the arts is
like the it's a weird kind of contradiction because yes,
you know people in the business, but then once you
(13:26):
get in the door, you're just under such a microscope
and there's actually more working against you than fo you yes, yes,
and so you kind of it's like this, it's this
weird people. You know, the whole nepo baby create you
know a thing is actually in the arts kind of
different because the arts is subjective and then the reality
is is it's not like you you know, it's like
(13:48):
I remember Cameron Crowe, someone asked him a question. He's like,
it's not like GOLDI and Kurt came and like with
like robes on in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And pointing a gun to my head, you know, like
what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
But but but but then it's like you know, you
in the act, you're either you either can do it
or you're not well and that's there's something that people
enjoy or they're kind of like and people will react
that way too.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Like that was the thing, like you said, in business,
you know, my father owns a security company. My brother
works at the company. Like it's a family business. It
was like, no question and nobody you know, but.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You aint people to certain positions. It's like it's like
you're here, you're here, you're.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
And and if you fail, you can kind of fail
anonymously in those kinds of worlds, whereas in the arts
in a public way, you you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Don't have that luxury, right, I mean, a.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Great painter, a great painter's child wants to paint, and
it's like, well, okay, like I've got you've got all
the paints, you know, all the gallery owners. But people
are either going to like your hatings or they're gonna
hate us.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Right, but but but but but he's got the gallery owners,
he's got the he's got the gallery.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
He meaning the foot is in the door, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
The door.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But it's up to us.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It's like any biz, family business, or any kind of
you know, a doctor, you grew up with a doctor.
It was a heart surgeon, and you if you want
to do that. You're going to have all this access
to great you know, mentors.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And and by the way, it's like you said, especially
for me because I I came into acting late.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Was Kate was already like a star?
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Growing up? Did you both have the.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Same she She wanted to be an actor and I
wanted to make movies. That's what I she She was
in places and I was making movies every weekend with
my friends and filters and this, and then.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, and I was like, where do I die? Where
do I die? Do you want me to die? Gruesome
death or quiet death?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Right? Exactly? Like you have no lines, just please be quiet.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
But yeah, So so when I would go into my
first auditions, I would feel this immense sort of pressure,
being like, Kate's a star, My parents are stars, and
they're gonna be like, Okay, well let's see what he
can do, right, you know?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And I underperformed. It didn't work out. For a long time.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
There's people are still questioning, Okay, I'm doing all right,
I'm doing a Christmas.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Movie for Netflix. Well, let's get into your child. He
goes you.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You came, like you said, a security family, your your your.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Dad is well Allent so like very Middle America suburbia.
It's you know, I mean I grew up in a
family that was really funny and love movies and love
watching movies and TV shows and had great senses of humor.
But it was not like I I just you know,
(17:08):
I saw play. I think I saw I think it
was Godspell when I was like eight years old. I
saw my firstide's a great one to see, and I
was like, I just have to do that, like even
if it's on the church basement stage wherever I saw it,
I was like, I need to be on a stage
singing like that. That looks like the most fun thing ever.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I mean, anybody who has any little bit of theater
or like performance in there and sees God's Spell.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You did Godspell in high school?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Did you ever?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Have you ever done Godspell?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
No? No, I've never done.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Gods Hapening in New York.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
God. But yeah, So how old were you? How old
were do you remember?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I was eight, like I was maybe second grade or something,
and it was it really was like literally like a
not even a community theater production. I think it was
like the local high school production that my mom. You know,
my mom knew the direct like we just went and
saw it. And so I, you know, like any kid
in a little town, I auditioned for all the plays.
(18:20):
Like my first auditioned for a Charlie Brown Christmas, did
not get cast, did not get cast, but came back
the next year for a Christmas Carol and I got
a part. But it was really just theater, and where
I was growing up, it was community theater, and it
was high school stuff and very low stakes, seemingly until
(18:44):
I started auditioning professionally, because like in community theater auditions,
at least in my experience, and yet, you know, Waiting
for Guffman, one of my favorite movies ever, like it,
they'd nail something because I mean, that's obviously yours. But
this is like the local dentist was, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
One of the characters.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's it. That's how it is.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
These are people who probably did theater in college.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Or have or have had a dream, dreamy age performed
throughout their lives.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
But you would have to audition, like in front of everybody.
It wasn't like you went into a room alone and
you got to audition. I remember just like everyone auditioning
for the same part, sitting in circles, and it was
so nerve wracking. So I remember the first time I
auditioned for anything professionally was in New York City and
I was like a teenager. It was a commercial because
(19:45):
some talent manager saw me in a play I was
doing in Allentown and said, would you ever want to
go to New York City and audition for commercials? And
it was an easy drive in and I remember, like
we drove in, My mom drove me in, and I
went in to this little room, like smaller than the
rumor in now, and there's one person with a video
(20:05):
camera and a big piece of like poster board with
the lines on it. And it was a burger King
commercial to be a burger King counter girl. And I
just like read it into the camera a couple of times,
very bubbly. I was so green, right, very wholesome. Yeah,
And I got the commercial you did? Yeah, So that
(20:26):
was really like this one start for me was like, oh,
that's kind of fun and that's like felt.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So I tried commercials. I tried commercials, you know, and
I went on one. It was a seven up commercial
and they were so they just didn't give a shit
about anyone who walked in.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And the guy's like, can you juggle? And I'm like no,
I can't. Like all right, pick up those balls and juggle.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I'm like I can't juggle and say okay, pick up
the balls, juggle and then say the lines.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'm like okay. And I had like three balls, like
they're fucking flying everywhere. I'm like seven off and it's like,
all right, what just happened?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
No, no, no, horrible, horrible, And forget the commercials where
you don't have to speak, Like I never got a
commercial where I didn't have to speak, because you have
to like know how to load gum, chew gun blow bubbles.
And I remember going into auditions where they're like, okay,
you sign in. Now we're going to take you into
this room. You're going to get a gum loading tutorial
(21:22):
on how to load the double mint gum because it's
a flat yes, you like put lay it flat on
your tongue and then you roll it back. Like never
got that if I had to do too much.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
No, yes, we're out load.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
It's a gunloading, gunloading, gumfloading.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Oh I want to use that for like certain things
where you like go it's like it's like when you
get your skis on, we're gonna gumloads, like what you do.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Before you do something gunloading.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
How many siblings?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I have a younger brother, almost kind of Irish twins.
He's eighteen months younger than me and my favorite per
like I love, like we're super close. But he never
wanted to act. He never he got thrown into community
theater productions and things growing up. And the irony too
is like after Ben and I got married, he is
(22:17):
he's almost such a bad actor that when Ben would
make you talked about like making fun movies and things
like as birthday gifts. Over the years, Ben would make
these like sort of home movies, but there were full
scripts and real like semi high production values to them,
like because it's you know, Ben wanted it to be good.
(22:38):
But he would always cast my brother as like the
lead and give him all of this dialogue and and
and it's he's such a good sport. And he actually
like really took one of them very seriously. It was
a big surprise, like I think it was for my
thirty fifth birthday, but literally like Tom Cruise appeared in
that one, and Caper sothermand appeared in that and like
(23:01):
and my brother is having to act.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
With Oh my god, that's the greatest joke really, so funny.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, but yes, but we were very close. But I
wondered that too because growing up, you know, my love
a theater. And it wasn't like I said, oh I
am I want to like go to la and making
the movies. I was just like, I love to do this.
I love being on stage.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I love but.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
We never there's like never a competition because we never
wanted to do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But and it sounds like with you because you.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Were more of the filmmaker and Kate was the performer.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's a competition. There's envy and heavy jealousy,
you know.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, but no, really I want to know now having
my own.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Kids and ask these questions. We ask these questions all
the time.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And it's funny because Wilder now got this part, and
I wonder what rider feels, you know, how body feels
and whatever, But no, look, you.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Riders do like heady right now and like school with
right immensely.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's like I'm gonna be a dramatic I get weepy
when I think about their success totally.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
At the same time, there's a part of you that's like,
I wish I fucking do that. I mean, I wish
I could work with like amazing creative.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
P Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I wish, like you know,
I don' want.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
To do damn.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I mean I have that. I mean, and it can
be it can be poisoned too. I mean I can
let it go to a place where it's just like
that's unhealthy. Yeah, you know, I'm not wishing any sort
of harm to anyone's career. But at the same time,
I'm like, all right, this is feeling too much now,
Like why are you right?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Why are you making it so.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, it's like Jesus Oliver relaxed.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But you know, it's like, well, there they have all
that money and they're fucking global. You're finding global asp
really like Southwest and eight connections.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I'm but I also think being able to like say
it out loud and like.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But no, I mean, you know, it's it's it's healthy.
It's I think it's healthy. I think that it's natural,
you know, as long as it doesn't get.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Destructive, right, right, right, and there's love and sports like support.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
But you're right, like, I.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Think it is interesting with the cousins and with that
sort of thing of like do you only have one sibling?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I only have one. Yeah, you guys are so close,
so they just we're really close.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
And he also doesn't have kids of his own, so
my my kids are.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
He's so close with our kids.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
What was growing up like just generally, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Was it wholesome?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Was it as wholesome as your as your burger king?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
We grew up Catholic, but not like you know we
we I mean I went to twelve years of Catholic school,
so I spent a lot of time in church and
things like that. But as a family, it wasn't like
we were at church. We went on Christmas, we went
on Easter, we went on the holidays.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
No.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
No, Now, my mom and her later years, my mom
is still very Catholic, and you know, but she's also
like missed spirituality and very open minded Catholic.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
If that's that's even impossible.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
It's kind of how the Hudsons are very very Italian
Catholic and but but very spiritual.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yes, you know, and that's not always the case. So
I think it's kind of a good combination. But you know,
my brother and I were, I think because we were
so close and we were very different personality wise, Like
I was really the type a like I'm all the
stupid stereotypes of like the perfectionist and this, and and
because I was always one step ahead of him, he
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bugged me a lot, like older sibling. Like I always
feel like, because I got my driver's license before him,
he didn't have to take the bus, so I would
drive him to school, but he would be late, right
and I would be waiting for him, and he would
just roll down with his bolder you know. He was
just everything was very laid back, which I would love
my I would love to like live a day in
that body of just feeling like, let's just roll with
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the punches. Yeah, because my brother, I feel like you
probably somewhere along the way met him at some party
or event. I've met your brother. Yeah, he's so he's
everybody loves him. He's such a sweetheart. But but we
were very different. So I remember us fighting a lot. Yeah,
I mean I definitely remember us really butting heads, but
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like fiercely loyal to each other and would stand up
for each other, but like who's who's the favorite?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And I mean, were you mom and Dad's favorite? Was
he the favorite?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Here's the thing I think my brother I I didn't.
I was a very good girls, a rule follower. The
things I did do, I never got caught. And everything
my brother did, like everything, he got caught with the
keg in the trunk and with trying to transport in
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my mother's car and like out denting it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Because the keg was you know what I mean, and
he would lie I got it.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I don't know how this happened, but Oliver always got caught,
but I got in trouble. So it was like, wait,
I didn't do this, Olivers.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Wait how many years apart are you guys?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And a half and a half.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
But somehow it was always like my I didn't do something,
to make sure he didn't do something.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It was like, you know, and then and then we
became more in cahoots once we started throwing parties. Yeah,
then like behind our parents' back. It's like, okay, like
we're in this together now, we have to yes.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
And I've heard you guys talk a little bit about
like when you get to that age and the sort
of crossover of like Kate's friends and there's like little flirtations.
My brother always wanted to be around when the girlfriends
there was a big sleepover.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, that switch because Kate used to be all hanging
around me. I'm like, hey, get out of here. And
then that flipped when you know, she was old enough
and her girlfriends were over and I'm like, what's up
are you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Kid's like, Oliver, get out, you're creepy.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Oh god, But my girlfriends did always go hang out
with you, which.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Was yes, it all worked out.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I'd be like, Carla, we're leaving, like, oh two seconds
he with Oliver.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Well, I found out much later on, like like years later,
that my brother had had a whole like hidden relationship
with one of our babysitters the island hang about when
the kids were very little.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Like he was like, yeah, yeah, Catherine and I that.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Was a that was a while, and then they ended
up getting together for a while too, Like, but I
was like, wait, that actually happened while you were still
living in la He's like, oh my god, everyone knew
you guys just know awesome.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
When did you sort of have your break. You know,
when was it like, all right, I'm out, I'm leaving.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
This is you mean from la from Yeah, from Allentown, Oh,
from Allentown.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I want to be an actor, you know I was.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
I was literally just applying to colleges, still going into
the city and doing some commercials. That was like my
junior year of high school that I started that. I
got that Burger Con commercial and then and then I
got this series for Nickelodeon, which was a very like
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it was not the network it is now. It was
sort of just up and coming. This is nineteen eighty nine.
So I was a senior in high school and I
got this show called Hey Dude, I remember, which was
like a bunch of kids on a dude ranch and
we shot it in Tucson, Arizona, and horses and cowboy hats.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I was seventeen, so fun was there so many naughty
things happening?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh my god, seventeen at.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
That age that must have been like, well, at that age,
and also at a time where like they didn't have
our parents come out there with us yet yet they
assigned us like some sort of a legal guardian who
was also like the accountant who paid us the perdem.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Exactly, you know that joint.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, like it was wild West was the wild West?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
No, But you know we were also like they didn't,
you know at the very beginning, like they didn't. We
didn't even have a rental car to get around, and
so we were like in a hotel and we would
just get the shuttle to the set every day and
we went like we would go to the mall, we'd
go minitter golfing. There was I'm a lot of like craziness,
but within the sort of the hotel because the whole
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cruisdade there too. Again, I was pretty much of a
rule follower. I was kind of.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Are you still I mean, did you break out of that?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Let me just I'll give you an example of like
I am. Yes, I think I fear authority. Like I
I literally if I get pulled over for a ticket
for feeding or something, it's just my my knee jerk
reactions to cry. Yeah, like it's nothing bad. I'm just
gonna get a ticket, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Not a big deal. But I will literally cry because
I just feel.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Like not going to like the same way she follows
so many rules. I'm like, babe, do you turn like
just no, I'm like, but literally, it's one am.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
There's no one here. No, no, we're getting fights over
like you have to break.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Some rules, right, That's why I feel like I want.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I mean, now in my fifties, it's like, can I
just loosen up a little bit?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I feel like I'm getting a little better.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
However, my son, who's nineteen, he's a little like me,
and I feel like Ella and Ben are very similar.
Quinn and I are very similar to but like to
the point where we were on vacation and on the
and he's a really picky eater, my son, and you know,
we went to a restaurant and it says kids menu,
and of course he wants to go to the kids
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menu because.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
They've got like the cats and the and the girl, cheese.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
And and and he's and it says like adults only please,
Like they give a gentle suggestion of like please, you know,
regular folks don't order the girl, the kids men and
so and and Quinn and I are both like in
a panic about.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It, right because you just to order.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
He goes, he goes, what should I say? Like, what
should I say? I was like, just order it. See
what she says.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And if she says something, we'll say that you have
an ally and honestly, Ellen be are like, what the
hell are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Like just the waitress is not going to say.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Anything, of course not you're talking.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I don't know why we get so it's it's it's
a thing.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
It's a thing.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Like I I still at this age in my life
like I aspire. I keep saying, like when I grew up,
I'd like to be more like my daughter. He's twenty two,
almost twenty three, just like knows what.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Naked and happy, just butt naked and happy.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I imagine if today I was like, yeah, she's still
just that was the Juilliard naked enough.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Now are you where are you? Are you still east coast?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Where east coast?
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Yeah? We are?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I know.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I was talking to Oliver coming in like hearing, are
you guys all okay?
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Like I just I mean, I just came from the school,
my kids school, and we did this thing called a
council for the adults that they do every year, and like.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
One parent goes and then you're not supposed to do
it with your spouse and you meet other parents. But
it's like go out in a circle and talk about
like your feelings or they give it prompt and I
wasn't gonna go because I'm like, oh, there's just too
much and there's too logistics happening and everything, and you know,
we're palisades, like og palisades.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I know you are.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
I remember I thought of all of you guys.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
So even though our house is good and we're good,
it's just so there's just so much happening right now
with our friends and people that work in our community,
and you're just in it, and like even just the
logistics of like am I going to be able.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
To get home? Can we get home? All that just
in it?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah? But I get to I'm like, I'm not going
to go, and I'm like I gotta go. I gotta
be like a good.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Crying the whole time.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I sat down in that chair, and the second the
second the leader of the council was like, I just
want to thank everybody for I was burst into tears.
I was just like, oh my god. And then I'm
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so bad that I started apologizing to everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I'm like, I am so sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I realized I haven't cried and and I.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Haven't started crying.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Now I might cry.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I haven't started the grieving process of all of the
memories of the places that we grew up, like my
first kiss, the house that I had my first kiss
and gone. And then I'm sitting next to my friend
who I won't name, but he we grew up together.
And then I lost it and then he lost Oh boy,
he lost it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It was.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
And and you're just you realize, like you're just grieving
this death of something that isn't human. It's it's a
it's just a place, and they're just things, but it's
like they hold all these special connections and and so yeah,
I mean that's what's happening. You know, I can't go home,
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I guess for like six months to a year or something.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I don't know. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh, it's crazy. We'll talk about all that later, like
you know, but you know, I haven't talked about that.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But then it's just the bigger part of it.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And then there's the other thing that's really cool and
amazing to see is that you realize that community, even
though it is a place, is also the people and
everyone's so connected.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Well that's why I was just.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Going to say when you said you sat just even
to sit there and have that space to hold like
I that is what I've heard from all of our
friends who are there, and you know it that's it's
I still think of La. It's our home, them away
from home, and we kept a little place there and
it's all of those memories and and the first thoughts
for us too were those places. And but what everyone
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has said is just the way Los Angeles has come
together is one of the most pretty amazing things you
could ever imagine in the city.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, because Ela is a funny, weird city.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You know, it's like filled with so many contradictions, and
you it's like you love it and you hate it
and you want to run from it, and then you
can't wait to get back to it. You know. It's
like it's so it's just one of those cities that
but there's these little pockets that where people don't really.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Leave them, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
And and so for us, like the Palisades area, it's like,
I don't know, I never leave it.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I remember, and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I think our childhood home.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah I brought I bought back the house that hapen
to raise my kids.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Right, But I remember also going to we went Ben
and I went to a Thanksgiving at your parents.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yes, yes we did. It was small, It was small.
This is these are my memories.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
We were either both pregnant or I was pregnant, and
I like.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I don't at the old house, yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yes, exactly the old house. And there were puppies. I remember,
like there were some puppies that had been born that
we went to.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Like a nana or the yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Nana, Yeah, puppies. And I know the lab judge, judge,
it was the labs. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Like I So I have these memories and I remember,
like for Ben too big, and I know Ben is
and I know Ben has told this to Kurt and
Goldie too, like Ben's like deep rooted obsession with Kurt,
like hisire.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I was sort of like, yeah, I've heard it before.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I know, I know you love me, go on, But
I just remember we had that you know, this is
kind of a thing I love of like those moments
because we had gotten to we were spending time with
you and Chris at the time, and like I just
remember it was like a circle of us and we
were showing up a lot of like dinner parties and
things together and we weren't going back East or something.
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So you and you guys invited us. We went to Thanksgiving,
but and I just remember Ben's fascination with Kurt talking
about hunting.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah it was bow and arrow, like that.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Was Kurt's story, and it's just been like I like
never seen my husband more on that, like on Hurt
every word, you know, like every word, and like I
remember us driving home and it was just sort of
like like, I just there's just not a cooler guy,
Like they're people like he just like and still to
(40:58):
this day he says it every time he runs into
your your parents, how amazing they are.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
I have to say the older Kurt gets I feel
that way too. I just feel like he actually gets
cool or even as he gets old.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Is that just like how is this if that's possible?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, it's like yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
But having these moments like as you know, because for
having lived in l A a long time and we'd
you know, go to fun part dinner parties and things
like that where you're like these amazing people and like
people that we grew up watching and you know that
and admired, and I you know, I always like would
love like Ben and I would have that moment of
getting in the car on the drive home and be like, well,
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that was just like the coolest thing ever. Like you,
you don't get I still don't.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Like.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
I still if I go to a basketball game and
like Lebron comes over and high five, I'm like, that's
the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Like nothing, I do this.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
I do this same thing right like you, there's still
moments because people people like, there's like I.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Think it's like any I mean, I mean, it would
be weird to not have reverence for people who like
if you love great art, great work and great athleticism
and sports, like, it would be so weird to not
have reverence for the people that you admire, Like, you know,
it's like the same.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
So it doesn't matter how I've.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Done, you know, the athletes, it's just from a bit
from the age of baby.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
They've committed to this sport and have excelled to the
greatest spot in it, and that level of work, ethic
and determination and commitment to it is so intense. It's
you watch it happen, you know, you're just wow, I
mean it's.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
You're yeah, it is true. I actually feel the same
about writers.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
And directors because it's sort of this like people think
it's easy to make a movie.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
It's so hard to make.
Speaker 8 (43:00):
A movie, what it likes, what it takes even get
it to happen, Like you know, it's like even like
the worst movie is a feat just to have gotten
it to be made.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
You know.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
It's like I have people who can actually like have
this vision, create it from the inception and then like
you see it and it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
You're like, that's just yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
I know, the type of same kind of determination and
like focus and drive as like I think some some athletes.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Yeah, so true.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Then what was like the moment, Well, they hate dude,
and that was what was so we I did hate
dude for a couple of years, Like we did like
five seasons of it over a couple of years, a
lot of episodes. At that point, like moved to La sort.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Of that thing of like uh with the family.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
No, I was by my I was, you know, because
I'd been out in Tucson for a couple of years
and we had made a lot of friends and this
time eighteen, this time I was by this time, I
was nineteen.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Okay, so you're nineteen, so you're free and clearly so.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
I was free.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I had gotten into college, but I was sort of like,
I'm going to still put college off for a bit
and go to LA and see because I had and
I had a friend out there who was looking for
a roommate. And I mean it took time, Like I
I I no one had heard of hey, dude, because
Nickelodeon was such a like it was a fledgling cable network,
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so no one really knew. I remember, I think I
even had a casting director like question, like, oh, you
did sixty five episodes.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Of a show I never heard of.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
I was, sorry, you're not really the demo it was
for like ten year olds, but.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
You're fucking casting director, so shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I was like, I.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Would never make that up on a resume. And that
was at a time where they were like, just just
cushion your resume, but y skills, special skills. But for me,
it was a lot of you know, like little episodic
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jobs on things like Saved by the Bell and Blossom
and all of those shows. And then for me it
was the Brady Bunch that it was really like the
I did a little stint in the real Live Brady Bunch,
which was kind of like they sort of spoofed episodes
with an adult cast playing the kids and at the
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Westwood Playhouse. And I did that for a little period
of time and then auditioned for the movie, and like
had heard it my whole life that I was sort
of very Marcia Brady and I was also obsessed with
The Brady Bunch growing up, so I knew every episode
and like, I'm a real nerd when it comes to that,
and but yeah, a few auditions got that and then
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that that that like shifted things, like it opened up
a lot of doors. It wasn't like life changed over
night the game, though yes, I didn't have to read
for casting directors anymore. I got offered some TV shows
and things like that. So it was that was really
the sort of.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Did you meet Ben on a movie?
Speaker 5 (46:23):
I met Ben on a pilot that he was directing,
a pilot called heat Vision and Jack, which has kind
of gotten this like weird cult, like it's on YouTube.
It's starring Jack Black and Owen Wilson as a talking motorcycle.
And it was sort of like it was like a
night Rider meets Star Trek meets six million dollar man,
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like weird hybrid meant to be sort of seventy style,
but this was like eight or ninety nine, nineteen ninety
eight or ninety nine. Yeah, And I went in on
and I like, I was a Ben Stiller fan. I
love the Ben Stiller Show. I auditioned for him. He
didn't want to cast.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Me, Amos. I tell this story all the time. It
was like he he.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
Wanted to cast someone else because he was like, she's
a little too Marsha Brady for me. And then the
the Fox forced me forced me.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
On him said no, you are casting her.
Speaker 6 (47:20):
So that was.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
It was he like he did not know in fact
I would. And I don't know if you had this experience, Kate,
I don't know when how if you knew how long
you've known Ben. But I felt like the first time
I met Ben, because I had also at that point
worked with Adam Sandler and I had done Friends, and
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I'd worked with like a lot of comedic forces, like
I had worked with really funny people. But when I
met Ben, I was like, he's so serious, so serious,
You're like, I was like, he's not cracking jokes, Like.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
He's also like looking.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
At me in my eyes when I'm talking to you
him too, which is very intensely.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Another thing, I'm very serious.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Nobody in Hollywood like looks you in the eyes, right,
you're kind of looking past you to see if somebody right,
you know, I scared.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I was like, he's very serious. But then you know,
and then.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
I got to see like the sort of you know,
genius at work and working with him and Jack, and.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Was that is that attractive? Does that add to it?
Meaning watch someone who is good at what they do?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Is that does that bring on even more attraction? And
of course, I mean.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
What kind of question is that?
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Of course, no, I want the person I went to
be terrible at what they do.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well, okay, if he was, if he was shitty at
what he did, would you still.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Be with well if he was if he was like
a mean director or like a missive or guy like he.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Is, just like he's not very talented and he's kind
of getting by.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah. Loaded.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
But the other cool thing was I, as I have,
I only knew him pass, I only knew him as
an actor, Like I knew he directed Reality Bites and
I loved that movie. But like, get us to see
somebody direct, like I think you're right, like I do think, yes,
there's something, and he's such an actor's director and he's
like so specific when it comes to the comedy and
(49:27):
getting it and the weirdness of it, and I think
just our sensibilities. But no, he didn't hit on me
at all. He was dating, kind of dating breaking.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Up with someone else.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
I was kind of going through a breakup, and like
when the thing wrapped, he was like, hey, you want
to grab dinner? And you both were kind of like
fizzling out and these other relationships, and I was like, yeah,
let's go to dinner.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
And then it just was like it was easy, but
it's also very private, like where was your first dinner?
Oh my god, you remember?
Speaker 1 (50:00):
You remember her?
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yes, of course I do. It was Michelle's in the vow.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I know Michelle.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Michelle's Michelle.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
It was in the vat I lived off the Laurel
Canyon is it's on Ventura like right now. It's where
they had the singing waiters who would sing show.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Too okay okay, oh fun And it was not.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Meant to be a romantic place because like we didn't
even have the play. But it was funny because I
think he was also like, you know, something about Mary
had already come out, like there were like stories about him,
and I think he was We were wanting to like
fly under the radar, so we found like a quiet
place Broadway show where they sing Broadway show tunes while
(50:43):
you get your pizza.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
Does he ever like tell you what is going to
happen in the in like shows like Severance, like do
you know what happens.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
You guys, like are you aware?
Speaker 6 (50:54):
Well know?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
If you know, well that has to be and of
course what if he's like sorry, but here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
But during you know, but the way they do that show,
and the first season was during COVID, so there were
no like set visits or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
So there was everything was very bubbled in a way.
But when he was.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
Editing, because it was all remote, it was all at home.
He was editing, so I and when episodes rough cuts
of episodes were done, we were the test audience, like
we were his test audience. But then like I remember
him editing once after season, like during season one, and
I remember walking by and I was like, oh, I
think I just heard a spoiler. I think I just
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heard because I wanted to see them.
Speaker 4 (51:40):
Well see, it's like Danny won't read any anything because
he wants to actually enjoy.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
It, right, Yeah, and that's I doesn't want to know.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
I don't. I didn't want to read the scripts or
anything like that, but I do like we did get
to see the whole We like, I've seen all of
season two.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
We give he lets us give us some note, give
him some notes?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Does he take them?
Speaker 2 (52:02):
He likes to hear it sort of.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Ye what about?
Speaker 6 (52:06):
What about?
Speaker 1 (52:07):
What about?
Speaker 6 (52:08):
What about?
Speaker 5 (52:08):
He wants to hear like the visceral reaction. It's not
like I'm giving notes.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
You got to cut out of that scene?
Speaker 5 (52:16):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
You know what's funny.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
It's almost like when you're really good at what you do,
which he is, you just need to be in a
room of people and you immediately are.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Like, I gotta cut that.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Like you don't even need to.
Speaker 7 (52:30):
You can feel like that's exactly right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
You know, when something is like or if I or
if it ends, and I'm like, but what did he
mean by then He's like, okay, good because we weren't
sure if that was clear. Because they're so in it,
He's like, okay, we might need to add a thing to.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Claricy, he's directed you, like many times. Has it ever
been like babe, like shut up, no, I mean, or
or like okay, I don't I mean, has there ever
been any or is it always just kind of fun?
Speaker 2 (52:58):
It's been really fun.
Speaker 5 (53:00):
I trust him and like I really do feel safe
in And he's not like a micro manager when it
comes to performances in that way, like it doesn't have
to be, you know. And I think he's just like
very generous when it comes to so I've never had
those moments where I felt like Okay, enough enough. And
(53:23):
it's been you know, it's been a while too. It
hasn't been like you know it was in a lot
of our younger years.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, I love her.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
I love her too.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
I get I have all these crazy what I'm it's
like I wanted to share all these memories that I
have with them and and but I but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
No, I know, she's she's so great and so open
and candid, and I love that, you know, she tells
her story and unafraid of it honestly.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, And you know, and I.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
Think and I feel like it's so great. We're going
to split up two parts because.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Of course we're splitting it out. We're splitting up. It's
gonna be a two parter.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
We're gonna split up and we're gonna get back together.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Like my hairline. My hairline's becoming a two parter, Kate,
do you see.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
It, it's like a three Look at this.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
I think I'm re seating.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Oh no, Ollie, this is weird. This isn't like you.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
I'm going to I'm going to fucking get some implants
or what are they called plugs?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
A hair transplant, like just right here?
Speaker 6 (54:27):
That ship up?
Speaker 2 (54:29):
All right? Can we not talk about your vanity?
Speaker 3 (54:33):
I know, but I'm getting older now. I just had
a lot of sun spots burned off of me.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I know.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
I heard doctor Diamond really went to town on that.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
God damn, he went to town.
Speaker 3 (54:45):
Taking blood out of my body, spinning it, shooting plasma
over my face.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
At least as we said it was, let's get out
of here before it gets work. Okay, I love it you.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Bye m
Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling, Ravalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hey, let's start. What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We already started in the lobby elevator.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Does anyone ever call you CTS?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
But but CJ, c J t H. Well CJ is
what everybody in my close friends and family called me
because my middle name is Joan. Is it which was
my initial screen actor skilled name? No Joan Christine, No Christine, Joan.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Christine, Joan Taylor. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Well my middle
name is Rutledge. Yeah, that was not my screen name,
Oliver Rutledge Hudson. Oh look, speaking of middle names, I.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Was not expecting this professional.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We're in the studio bay where.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
In the studio real and pro.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But when you popped on, we were just talking about
middle names, and uh, I haven't revealed yours yet because
it's not it's an interesting one, Ruttledge. About Oliver Rutledge Hudson.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know you want to give up your middle name.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
But the world know.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
My middle name is Kate Gary Hudson g A R
R Y double R super.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I would have known if I had seen it, I
would have.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Said, from that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Wait, Kate, what is the origin of that?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Uncle Gary, who we never knew, was Mom's favorite uncle,
and so she just decided to name me.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Did she check your privates before she gave you? The
middle name?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Rutledge was my grandfather's name, and Edward when we were
lied to that that we were later the youngest sign
of the Declaration of Independence, who was Edward Rutledge, which
I think we found out was not true, right.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's not true.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We have all kinds. We have a lot of things,
you know, we have so much.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Lord, it's like it's like our great our great uncle
was the head of a crime family, apparently related to
Edgar Allan Poe.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't know. It's all bullshit.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's so nice to see you, so nice to see you.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The last time I saw you was I think for
us a heartbeat at the Was it it was the
US Open, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Or the tennis?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
It was in the parking lot and it was the
big Novak Djokovic was supposed to win the Calendar Slam
yea and did not. Yeah, and we all every we all,
everybody flocked to see it because.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's going to be amazing, big moment.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Yeah, and he got demolished by Yeah really did.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You've probably got to put a ton of letters from
celebrities like I wasted my time to.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Watch this moment.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The tennis matches are so fun, they're so civil.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I've never been ever what, I've never been to.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Age, It's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I love sports. I've never ever been. I really want
to go.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
It is the most I think. It's so much Yeah,
I'm also one of those like I play okay, but
I love watching it and I will watch every return
like the Australian Open is going on right, yes, and
it comes on like the live coverage starts here at
eleven thirty pm. Yeah, you watch a little before bed.
(04:11):
I record it and then I'll watch it a.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Little bit of a So you must have seen Match
Point the Netflix series, of course, Oh my god, I
love it. It's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
It's increasible.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean I haven't seen all of them shows.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, you got to watch match point. It's really great,
really great.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I had this image just looking at you, and I
remember saying this to Ben, your husband.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It was the last time I say, guys.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But I was reading all the research and all this
stuff and realize that Ella is twenty two and graduated
from college.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Well yeah, because we were all pregnant together.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
We were pregnant and had babies. And there was this
one Halloween in New York that I will never forget
because Ella loved to just take all her was off.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And didn't want to wear clothes.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And we have this like big Halloween party with a
bunch of kids, and Ella's running around naked and Ben's
running around after.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Her, going, I don't know what it is, she just
doesn't ever want to put clothes on.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And it was funny because I remember, yeah, it was
we have so many photographs of her naked with the
little ug boots, so it was he's like naked, but.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It was so cute naked.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It was so cute.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And so Ben still her funny that this was his
daughter that he couldn't get to get to be clothed,
and and and then I just thought, oh my god,
she's graduated from Juilliard and she's twenty juilliard.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
He did acting.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Whoat talking to the crowd.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, it's just it's just in there.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
It's like story telling, the storytelling gene or it's just
or you know what, it's just so much fun and
you get to like make believe and like play these
different and character and it's they.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Don't know anything else, Like that's the other thing.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Well, I mean yes, and I think with you guys too,
in particular. Now, I came from a family of non actors.
I'm sort of like, but Ben's parents, Like so even
Grandma and Grandpa would come over and they'd you know,
they'd be doing characters and bits and dress up and
made up names and so yeah, it's what they knew.
(06:35):
And I do think, like, I'm sure there are families
where kids see it and they're like, that's the last
thing I want to do. But you know, they also
got to see all sides of it because they got
just like, you know, Ben is in a different world
than the way I do it. Yeah, the struggles and
the ups and downs and the successes and the failures.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Of course, and yet they still.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Went ahead and for whatever reason in the business that
you're in, or this acting business that we're into, the
movie business. It brings on any sort of trauma, honestly,
then you could move. There's more impetus for them to
move away from it, meaning oh Dad, Mom were like
never here right, like this is not how I want
to do it.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You know. Fortunately, our kids liked us being away.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I guess, oh god, well, actually no, because Mom and
Paul were kids, they never worked at the same time.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, they made a point not to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, we did that too, And I mean, you know
it's really different for me too.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
I realized like really early on, and Ben was, you know,
this is the other thing too. At when you know
you have that first baby, you have no idea. People
will tell you everything. But I remember Ben, it was
a very busy time for him and he was like
doing a lot of movies and I remember him looking
at these like offers coming along and he was sort
(07:56):
of like, well, so we're you know, have Ella in April,
and then I could do this movie here and then
and he's like, and you know, it's like then I
can take some time off because like when they're that little,
is it really that big of a deal, Like do
they really even know you?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You don't think so.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But it's the most important time, Like that's that action, right,
the imprint happened. So you know, we made all of
the mistakes, the word of it all have you know,
I mean speaking of Ella, but no, I mean I
think because you know, she being the first, my mom
(08:38):
was around all the time, you know, talking about siblings.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
My brother lived right next door to us.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
So and and we had a you know, babysitter nanny
helping out, and so it was sort of like Ben
was off working and I had this like huge support
system of family and friends and people, and you know,
Ben would come home and want Ella to like you'd
want to hold and she would like, I want to
go to my brother.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, She's like, which one are you?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
No, when when when Rio was born ten days as
my last one. Ten days after she was born, I
had to go to Nashville in Nashville this show and
I was devastated, I mean so devastated. When the car
pulls up and I'm crying and I'm saying, you know what, I.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Don't care if ABC never hires me again. I don't
care if my reps leave me like, I don't give
a fuck, I'm not going.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And Aaron was like, get your shit together, get in
the car. I mean, like everything's gonna be fine. But
it was two years of on and off, going back
and forth, and Rio wanted nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'd be like, come on, baby, she just wanted Mom
didn't take it personally.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Animal had some weird animal sounds. It's not personal.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I' she's actually a lemur.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, it isn't personal. And it's also like then you know,
being there and showing up and then you're there and
then it all changes.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But it does take.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
It takes well before.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
We deep dive into your childhood.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I just want to say that, like, just on the
same path, you know, my oldest son, Wilder. I'm doing
a movie in Toronto, a Christmas movie for Netflix, and
I don't know, I had to say that, maybe so
it sounds like I'm doing something more prestigious, maybe you know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Because Christmas.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah I like that.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I like that, Yeah, because I'm like, it's not Hollmark,
it's Christmas, but it's it's Netflix.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, they did a great one called Hot Frosty. So anyway,
you know, I was seventeen. I was seventeen year old
in the show of seventeen year old, and my son
has never acted. He did acting. He did acting class
for six weeks prior the audish and you know, one, two, three, four,
five times and ended up getting the gig.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So he's coming with me for six weeks. And it's
a big part. It's not like a small part. Wow,
he's scared. I'm scared. You know, we're all scared scared
because it's like, what is going on. I just don't
want him to make that face. I just don't want him.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I just don't want him to make that face he
makes when he takes picture. He was just.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Like yes, and You're like, what is this face? You're
so handsome?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Stops like almost like looking trying to look a little mean.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's like he's got like kind of like a poudy mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'm like, first, yeah, but he like bouns his mouth
and he sort of like pulls.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It in and yeah, just like a little bottle thing.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Well, I think that's where I always joked that that's where.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Gotland. For sure.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
It's full it's full on. And so that's the only
thing that I'm scared about.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But anyway, it's like a it's like you know.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Bucket list, the deathbed stuff, where I get to have
this experience with my son, yeah, you know, so much
so that I'm going twenty thousand dollars over my accommodation's budget.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
So I get a really nice place to keep them all.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I feel like it's by the way, like what better opportunity.
And first of all, the fact that he auditioned five
times that it wasn't you saying like, hey, I'll do it,
but yeah, you know, my son's perfect for it, like
he really did it, which I think is amazing. So
that's also like putting out yeah, because then if you
don't get it, then you feel a little like I do.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I like these people as much evenore. And then he
hates the project.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
It's never going to see it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I said, his expectations very low. I'm like, dude, chances
are this is not going to happen, right, And then
they like you okay, but now they're asking about how
old he is candidate because there's all kinds.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Of yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then one.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Two, three, Then it was like the director loved you,
but Netflix isn't sold because he's so green, right, So
he had to.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Do it over and over and over again and finally.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Like, well, here, nepotism in the arts is a weird
thing because it's like there's nepotism with like wealth and
business it's pretty straightforward. Like nepotism in the arts is
like the it's a weird kind of contradiction because yes,
you know people in the business, but then once you
(13:26):
get in the door, you're just under such a microscope
and there's actually more working against you than fo you yes, yes,
and so you kind of it's like this, it's this
weird people. You know, the whole nepo baby create you
know a thing is actually in the arts kind of
different because the arts is subjective and then the reality
is is it's not like you you know, it's like
(13:48):
I remember Cameron Crowe, someone asked him a question. He's like,
it's not like GOLDI and Kurt came and like with
like robes on in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And pointing a gun to my head, you know, like
what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
But but but but then it's like you know, you
in the act, you're either you either can do it
or you're not well and that's there's something that people
enjoy or they're kind of like and people will react
that way too.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Like that was the thing, like you said, in business,
you know, my father owns a security company. My brother
works at the company. Like it's a family business. It
was like, no question and nobody you know, but.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You aint people to certain positions. It's like it's like
you're here, you're here, you're.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
And and if you fail, you can kind of fail
anonymously in those kinds of worlds, whereas in the arts
in a public way, you you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Don't have that luxury, right, I mean, a.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Great painter, a great painter's child wants to paint, and
it's like, well, okay, like I've got you've got all
the paints, you know, all the gallery owners. But people
are either going to like your hatings or they're gonna
hate us.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Right, but but but but but he's got the gallery owners,
he's got the he's got the gallery.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
He meaning the foot is in the door, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
The door.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But it's up to us.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It's like any biz, family business, or any kind of
you know, a doctor, you grew up with a doctor.
It was a heart surgeon, and you if you want
to do that. You're going to have all this access
to great you know, mentors.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And and by the way, it's like you said, especially
for me because I I came into acting late.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Was Kate was already like a star?
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Growing up? Did you both have the.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Same she She wanted to be an actor and I
wanted to make movies. That's what I she She was
in places and I was making movies every weekend with
my friends and filters and this, and then.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, and I was like, where do I die? Where
do I die? Do you want me to die? Gruesome
death or quiet death?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Right? Exactly? Like you have no lines, just please be quiet.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
But yeah, So so when I would go into my
first auditions, I would feel this immense sort of pressure,
being like, Kate's a star, My parents are stars, and
they're gonna be like, Okay, well let's see what he
can do, right, you know?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And I underperformed. It didn't work out. For a long time.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
There's people are still questioning, Okay, I'm doing all right,
I'm doing a Christmas.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Movie for Netflix. Well, let's get into your child. He
goes you.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You came, like you said, a security family, your your your.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Dad is well Allent so like very Middle America suburbia.
It's you know, I mean I grew up in a
family that was really funny and love movies and love
watching movies and TV shows and had great senses of humor.
But it was not like I I just you know,
(17:08):
I saw play. I think I saw I think it
was Godspell when I was like eight years old. I
saw my firstide's a great one to see, and I
was like, I just have to do that, like even
if it's on the church basement stage wherever I saw it,
I was like, I need to be on a stage
singing like that. That looks like the most fun thing ever.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I mean, anybody who has any little bit of theater
or like performance in there and sees God's Spell.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You did Godspell in high school?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Did you ever?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Have you ever done Godspell?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
No? No, I've never done.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Gods Hapening in New York.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
God. But yeah, So how old were you? How old
were do you remember?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I was eight, like I was maybe second grade or something,
and it was it really was like literally like a
not even a community theater production. I think it was
like the local high school production that my mom. You know,
my mom knew the direct like we just went and
saw it. And so I, you know, like any kid
in a little town, I auditioned for all the plays.
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Like my first auditioned for a Charlie Brown Christmas, did
not get cast, did not get cast, but came back
the next year for a Christmas Carol and I got
a part. But it was really just theater, and where
I was growing up, it was community theater, and it
was high school stuff and very low stakes, seemingly until
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I started auditioning professionally, because like in community theater auditions,
at least in my experience, and yet, you know, Waiting
for Guffman, one of my favorite movies ever, like it,
they'd nail something because I mean, that's obviously yours. But
this is like the local dentist was, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
One of the characters.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's it. That's how it is.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
These are people who probably did theater in college.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Or have or have had a dream, dreamy age performed
throughout their lives.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
But you would have to audition, like in front of everybody.
It wasn't like you went into a room alone and
you got to audition. I remember just like everyone auditioning
for the same part, sitting in circles, and it was
so nerve wracking. So I remember the first time I
auditioned for anything professionally was in New York City and
I was like a teenager. It was a commercial because
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some talent manager saw me in a play I was
doing in Allentown and said, would you ever want to
go to New York City and audition for commercials? And
it was an easy drive in and I remember, like
we drove in, My mom drove me in, and I
went in to this little room, like smaller than the
rumor in now, and there's one person with a video
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camera and a big piece of like poster board with
the lines on it. And it was a burger King
commercial to be a burger King counter girl. And I
just like read it into the camera a couple of times,
very bubbly. I was so green, right, very wholesome. Yeah,
And I got the commercial you did? Yeah, So that
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was really like this one start for me was like, oh,
that's kind of fun and that's like felt.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So I tried commercials. I tried commercials, you know, and
I went on one. It was a seven up commercial
and they were so they just didn't give a shit
about anyone who walked in.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And the guy's like, can you juggle? And I'm like no,
I can't. Like all right, pick up those balls and juggle.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I'm like I can't juggle and say okay, pick up
the balls, juggle and then say the lines.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'm like okay. And I had like three balls, like
they're fucking flying everywhere. I'm like seven off and it's like,
all right, what just happened?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
No, no, no, horrible, horrible, And forget the commercials where
you don't have to speak, Like I never got a
commercial where I didn't have to speak, because you have
to like know how to load gum, chew gun blow bubbles.
And I remember going into auditions where they're like, okay,
you sign in. Now we're going to take you into
this room. You're going to get a gum loading tutorial
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on how to load the double mint gum because it's
a flat yes, you like put lay it flat on
your tongue and then you roll it back. Like never
got that if I had to do too much.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
No, yes, we're out load.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
It's a gunloading, gunloading, gumfloading.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Oh I want to use that for like certain things
where you like go it's like it's like when you
get your skis on, we're gonna gumloads, like what you do.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Before you do something gunloading.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
How many siblings?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I have a younger brother, almost kind of Irish twins.
He's eighteen months younger than me and my favorite per
like I love, like we're super close. But he never
wanted to act. He never he got thrown into community
theater productions and things growing up. And the irony too
is like after Ben and I got married, he is
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he's almost such a bad actor that when Ben would
make you talked about like making fun movies and things
like as birthday gifts. Over the years, Ben would make
these like sort of home movies, but there were full
scripts and real like semi high production values to them,
like because it's you know, Ben wanted it to be good.
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But he would always cast my brother as like the
lead and give him all of this dialogue and and
and it's he's such a good sport. And he actually
like really took one of them very seriously. It was
a big surprise, like I think it was for my
thirty fifth birthday, but literally like Tom Cruise appeared in
that one, and Caper sothermand appeared in that and like
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and my brother is having to act.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
With Oh my god, that's the greatest joke really, so funny.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, but yes, but we were very close. But I
wondered that too because growing up, you know, my love
a theater. And it wasn't like I said, oh I
am I want to like go to la and making
the movies. I was just like, I love to do this.
I love being on stage.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I love but.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
We never there's like never a competition because we never
wanted to do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But and it sounds like with you because you.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Were more of the filmmaker and Kate was the performer.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's a competition. There's envy and heavy jealousy,
you know.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, but no, really I want to know now having
my own.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Kids and ask these questions. We ask these questions all
the time.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And it's funny because Wilder now got this part, and
I wonder what rider feels, you know, how body feels
and whatever, But no, look, you.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Riders do like heady right now and like school with
right immensely.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's like I'm gonna be a dramatic I get weepy
when I think about their success totally.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
At the same time, there's a part of you that's like,
I wish I fucking do that. I mean, I wish
I could work with like amazing creative.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
P Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I wish, like you know,
I don' want.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
To do damn.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I mean I have that. I mean, and it can
be it can be poisoned too. I mean I can
let it go to a place where it's just like
that's unhealthy. Yeah, you know, I'm not wishing any sort
of harm to anyone's career. But at the same time,
I'm like, all right, this is feeling too much now,
Like why are you right?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Why are you making it so.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, it's like Jesus Oliver relaxed.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But you know, it's like, well, there they have all
that money and they're fucking global. You're finding global asp
really like Southwest and eight connections.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I'm but I also think being able to like say
it out loud and like.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But no, I mean, you know, it's it's it's healthy.
It's I think it's healthy. I think that it's natural,
you know, as long as it doesn't get.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Destructive, right, right, right, and there's love and sports like support.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
But you're right, like, I.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Think it is interesting with the cousins and with that
sort of thing of like do you only have one sibling?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I only have one. Yeah, you guys are so close,
so they just we're really close.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
And he also doesn't have kids of his own, so
my my kids are.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
He's so close with our kids.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
What was growing up like just generally, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Was it wholesome?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Was it as wholesome as your as your burger king?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
We grew up Catholic, but not like you know we
we I mean I went to twelve years of Catholic school,
so I spent a lot of time in church and
things like that. But as a family, it wasn't like
we were at church. We went on Christmas, we went
on Easter, we went on the holidays.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
No.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
No, Now, my mom and her later years, my mom
is still very Catholic, and you know, but she's also
like missed spirituality and very open minded Catholic.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
If that's that's even impossible.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
It's kind of how the Hudsons are very very Italian
Catholic and but but very spiritual.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yes, you know, and that's not always the case. So
I think it's kind of a good combination. But you know,
my brother and I were, I think because we were
so close and we were very different personality wise, Like
I was really the type a like I'm all the
stupid stereotypes of like the perfectionist and this, and and
because I was always one step ahead of him, he
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bugged me a lot, like older sibling. Like I always
feel like, because I got my driver's license before him,
he didn't have to take the bus, so I would
drive him to school, but he would be late, right
and I would be waiting for him, and he would
just roll down with his bolder you know. He was
just everything was very laid back, which I would love
my I would love to like live a day in
that body of just feeling like, let's just roll with
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the punches. Yeah, because my brother, I feel like you
probably somewhere along the way met him at some party
or event. I've met your brother. Yeah, he's so he's
everybody loves him. He's such a sweetheart. But but we
were very different. So I remember us fighting a lot. Yeah,
I mean I definitely remember us really butting heads, but
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like fiercely loyal to each other and would stand up
for each other, but like who's who's the favorite?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
And I mean, were you mom and Dad's favorite? Was
he the favorite?
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Here's the thing I think my brother I I didn't.
I was a very good girls, a rule follower. The
things I did do, I never got caught. And everything
my brother did, like everything, he got caught with the
keg in the trunk and with trying to transport in
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my mother's car and like out denting it.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Because the keg was you know what I mean, and
he would lie I got it.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I don't know how this happened, but Oliver always got caught,
but I got in trouble. So it was like, wait,
I didn't do this, Olivers.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Wait how many years apart are you guys?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And a half and a half.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
But somehow it was always like my I didn't do something,
to make sure he didn't do something.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It was like, you know, and then and then we
became more in cahoots once we started throwing parties. Yeah,
then like behind our parents' back. It's like, okay, like
we're in this together now, we have to yes.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
And I've heard you guys talk a little bit about
like when you get to that age and the sort
of crossover of like Kate's friends and there's like little flirtations.
My brother always wanted to be around when the girlfriends
there was a big sleepover.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, that switch because Kate used to be all hanging
around me. I'm like, hey, get out of here. And
then that flipped when you know, she was old enough
and her girlfriends were over and I'm like, what's up
are you guys doing.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Kid's like, Oliver, get out, you're creepy.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Oh god, But my girlfriends did always go hang out
with you, which.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Was yes, it all worked out.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
I'd be like, Carla, we're leaving, like, oh two seconds
he with Oliver.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Well, I found out much later on, like like years later,
that my brother had had a whole like hidden relationship
with one of our babysitters the island hang about when
the kids were very little.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Like he was like, yeah, yeah, Catherine and I that.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Was a that was a while, and then they ended
up getting together for a while too, Like, but I
was like, wait, that actually happened while you were still
living in la He's like, oh my god, everyone knew
you guys just know awesome.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
When did you sort of have your break. You know,
when was it like, all right, I'm out, I'm leaving.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
This is you mean from la from Yeah, from Allentown, Oh,
from Allentown.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I want to be an actor, you know I was.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
I was literally just applying to colleges, still going into
the city and doing some commercials. That was like my
junior year of high school that I started that. I
got that Burger Con commercial and then and then I
got this series for Nickelodeon, which was a very like
(30:52):
it was not the network it is now. It was
sort of just up and coming. This is nineteen eighty nine.
So I was a senior in high school and I
got this show called Hey Dude, I remember, which was
like a bunch of kids on a dude ranch and
we shot it in Tucson, Arizona, and horses and cowboy hats.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I was seventeen, so fun was there so many naughty
things happening?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh my god, seventeen at.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
That age that must have been like, well, at that age,
and also at a time where like they didn't have
our parents come out there with us yet yet they
assigned us like some sort of a legal guardian who
was also like the accountant who paid us the perdem.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Exactly, you know that joint.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, like it was wild West was the wild West?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
No, But you know we were also like they didn't,
you know at the very beginning, like they didn't. We
didn't even have a rental car to get around, and
so we were like in a hotel and we would
just get the shuttle to the set every day and
we went like we would go to the mall, we'd
go minitter golfing. There was I'm a lot of like craziness,
but within the sort of the hotel because the whole
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cruisdade there too. Again, I was pretty much of a
rule follower. I was kind of.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Are you still I mean, did you break out of that?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Let me just I'll give you an example of like
I am. Yes, I think I fear authority. Like I
I literally if I get pulled over for a ticket
for feeding or something, it's just my my knee jerk
reactions to cry. Yeah, like it's nothing bad. I'm just
gonna get a ticket, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Not a big deal. But I will literally cry because
I just feel.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Like not going to like the same way she follows
so many rules. I'm like, babe, do you turn like
just no, I'm like, but literally, it's one am.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
There's no one here. No, no, we're getting fights over
like you have to break.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Some rules, right, That's why I feel like I want.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I mean, now in my fifties, it's like, can I
just loosen up a little bit?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I feel like I'm getting a little better.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
However, my son, who's nineteen, he's a little like me,
and I feel like Ella and Ben are very similar.
Quinn and I are very similar to but like to
the point where we were on vacation and on the
and he's a really picky eater, my son, and you know,
we went to a restaurant and it says kids menu,
and of course he wants to go to the kids
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menu because.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
They've got like the cats and the and the girl, cheese.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
And and and he's and it says like adults only please,
Like they give a gentle suggestion of like please, you know,
regular folks don't order the girl, the kids men and
so and and Quinn and I are both like in
a panic about.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It, right because you just to order.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
He goes, he goes, what should I say? Like, what
should I say? I was like, just order it. See
what she says.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And if she says something, we'll say that you have
an ally and honestly, Ellen be are like, what the
hell are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Like just the waitress is not going to say.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Anything, of course not you're talking.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I don't know why we get so it's it's it's
a thing.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
It's a thing.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Like I I still at this age in my life
like I aspire. I keep saying, like when I grew up,
I'd like to be more like my daughter. He's twenty two,
almost twenty three, just like knows what.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Naked and happy, just butt naked and happy.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I imagine if today I was like, yeah, she's still
just that was the Juilliard naked enough.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Now are you where are you? Are you still east coast?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Where east coast?
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Yeah? We are?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I know.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I was talking to Oliver coming in like hearing, are
you guys all okay?
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Like I just I mean, I just came from the school,
my kids school, and we did this thing called a
council for the adults that they do every year, and like.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
One parent goes and then you're not supposed to do
it with your spouse and you meet other parents. But
it's like go out in a circle and talk about
like your feelings or they give it prompt and I
wasn't gonna go because I'm like, oh, there's just too
much and there's too logistics happening and everything, and you know,
we're palisades, like og palisades.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I know you are.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
I remember I thought of all of you guys.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
So even though our house is good and we're good,
it's just so there's just so much happening right now
with our friends and people that work in our community,
and you're just in it, and like even just the
logistics of like am I going to be able.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
To get home? Can we get home? All that just
in it?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah? But I get to I'm like, I'm not going
to go, and I'm like I gotta go. I gotta
be like a good.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Crying the whole time.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I sat down in that chair, and the second the
second the leader of the council was like, I just
want to thank everybody for I was burst into tears.
I was just like, oh my god. And then I'm
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so bad that I started apologizing to everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I'm like, I am so sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I realized I haven't cried and and I.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Haven't started crying.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Now I might cry.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I haven't started the grieving process of all of the
memories of the places that we grew up, like my
first kiss, the house that I had my first kiss
and gone. And then I'm sitting next to my friend
who I won't name, but he we grew up together.
And then I lost it and then he lost Oh boy,
he lost it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It was.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
And and you're just you realize, like you're just grieving
this death of something that isn't human. It's it's a
it's just a place, and they're just things, but it's
like they hold all these special connections and and so yeah,
I mean that's what's happening. You know, I can't go home,
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I guess for like six months to a year or something.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I don't know. It's a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh, it's crazy. We'll talk about all that later, like
you know, but you know, I haven't talked about that.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But then it's just the bigger part of it.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And then there's the other thing that's really cool and
amazing to see is that you realize that community, even
though it is a place, is also the people and
everyone's so connected.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Well that's why I was just.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Going to say when you said you sat just even
to sit there and have that space to hold like
I that is what I've heard from all of our
friends who are there, and you know it that's it's
I still think of La. It's our home, them away
from home, and we kept a little place there and
it's all of those memories and and the first thoughts
for us too were those places. And but what everyone
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has said is just the way Los Angeles has come
together is one of the most pretty amazing things you
could ever imagine in the city.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, because Ela is a funny, weird city.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You know, it's like filled with so many contradictions, and
you it's like you love it and you hate it
and you want to run from it, and then you
can't wait to get back to it. You know. It's
like it's so it's just one of those cities that
but there's these little pockets that where people don't really.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Leave them, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
And and so for us, like the Palisades area, it's like,
I don't know, I never leave it.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I remember, and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I think our childhood home.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah I brought I bought back the house that hapen
to raise my kids.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Right, But I remember also going to we went Ben
and I went to a Thanksgiving at your parents.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yes, yes we did. It was small, It was small.
This is these are my memories.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
We were either both pregnant or I was pregnant, and
I like.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I don't at the old house, yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yes, exactly the old house. And there were puppies. I remember,
like there were some puppies that had been born that
we went to.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Like a nana or the yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Nana, Yeah, puppies. And I know the lab judge, judge,
it was the labs. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Like I So I have these memories and I remember,
like for Ben too big, and I know Ben is
and I know Ben has told this to Kurt and
Goldie too, like Ben's like deep rooted obsession with Kurt,
like hisire.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I was sort of like, yeah, I've heard it before.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I know, I know you love me, go on, But
I just remember we had that you know, this is
kind of a thing I love of like those moments
because we had gotten to we were spending time with
you and Chris at the time, and like I just
remember it was like a circle of us and we
were showing up a lot of like dinner parties and
things together and we weren't going back East or something.
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So you and you guys invited us. We went to Thanksgiving,
but and I just remember Ben's fascination with Kurt talking
about hunting.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah it was bow and arrow, like that.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
Was Kurt's story, and it's just been like I like
never seen my husband more on that, like on Hurt
every word, you know, like every word, and like I
remember us driving home and it was just sort of
like like, I just there's just not a cooler guy,
Like they're people like he just like and still to
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this day he says it every time he runs into
your your parents, how amazing they are.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
I have to say the older Kurt gets I feel
that way too. I just feel like he actually gets
cool or even as he gets old.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Is that just like how is this if that's possible?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, it's like yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
But having these moments like as you know, because for
having lived in l A a long time and we'd
you know, go to fun part dinner parties and things
like that where you're like these amazing people and like
people that we grew up watching and you know that
and admired, and I you know, I always like would
love like Ben and I would have that moment of
getting in the car on the drive home and be like, well,
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that was just like the coolest thing ever. Like you,
you don't get I still don't.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Like.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
I still if I go to a basketball game and
like Lebron comes over and high five, I'm like, that's
the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Like nothing, I do this.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
I do this same thing right like you, there's still
moments because people people like, there's like I.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Think it's like any I mean, I mean, it would
be weird to not have reverence for people who like
if you love great art, great work and great athleticism
and sports, like, it would be so weird to not
have reverence for the people that you admire, Like, you know,
it's like the same.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
So it doesn't matter how I've.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Done, you know, the athletes, it's just from a bit
from the age of baby.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
They've committed to this sport and have excelled to the
greatest spot in it, and that level of work, ethic
and determination and commitment to it is so intense. It's
you watch it happen, you know, you're just wow, I
mean it's.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
You're yeah, it is true. I actually feel the same
about writers.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
And directors because it's sort of this like people think
it's easy to make a movie.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
It's so hard to make.
Speaker 8 (43:00):
A movie, what it likes, what it takes even get
it to happen, Like you know, it's like even like
the worst movie is a feat just to have gotten
it to be made.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
You know.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
It's like I have people who can actually like have
this vision, create it from the inception and then like
you see it and it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
You're like, that's just yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
I know, the type of same kind of determination and
like focus and drive as like I think some some athletes.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Yeah, so true.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Then what was like the moment, Well, they hate dude,
and that was what was so we I did hate
dude for a couple of years, Like we did like
five seasons of it over a couple of years, a
lot of episodes. At that point, like moved to La sort.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Of that thing of like uh with the family.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
No, I was by my I was, you know, because
I'd been out in Tucson for a couple of years
and we had made a lot of friends and this
time eighteen, this time I was by this time, I
was nineteen.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Okay, so you're nineteen, so you're free and clearly so.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
I was free.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
I had gotten into college, but I was sort of like,
I'm going to still put college off for a bit
and go to LA and see because I had and
I had a friend out there who was looking for
a roommate. And I mean it took time, Like I
I I no one had heard of hey, dude, because
Nickelodeon was such a like it was a fledgling cable network,
(44:41):
so no one really knew. I remember, I think I
even had a casting director like question, like, oh, you
did sixty five episodes.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Of a show I never heard of.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
I was, sorry, you're not really the demo it was
for like ten year olds, but.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
You're fucking casting director, so shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I was like, I.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
Would never make that up on a resume. And that
was at a time where they were like, just just
cushion your resume, but y skills, special skills. But for me,
it was a lot of you know, like little episodic
(45:19):
jobs on things like Saved by the Bell and Blossom
and all of those shows. And then for me it
was the Brady Bunch that it was really like the
I did a little stint in the real Live Brady Bunch,
which was kind of like they sort of spoofed episodes
with an adult cast playing the kids and at the
(45:41):
Westwood Playhouse. And I did that for a little period
of time and then auditioned for the movie, and like
had heard it my whole life that I was sort
of very Marcia Brady and I was also obsessed with
The Brady Bunch growing up, so I knew every episode
and like, I'm a real nerd when it comes to that,
and but yeah, a few auditions got that and then
(46:02):
that that that like shifted things, like it opened up
a lot of doors. It wasn't like life changed over
night the game, though yes, I didn't have to read
for casting directors anymore. I got offered some TV shows
and things like that. So it was that was really
the sort of.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Did you meet Ben on a movie?
Speaker 5 (46:23):
I met Ben on a pilot that he was directing,
a pilot called heat Vision and Jack, which has kind
of gotten this like weird cult, like it's on YouTube.
It's starring Jack Black and Owen Wilson as a talking motorcycle.
And it was sort of like it was like a
night Rider meets Star Trek meets six million dollar man,
(46:46):
like weird hybrid meant to be sort of seventy style,
but this was like eight or ninety nine, nineteen ninety
eight or ninety nine. Yeah, And I went in on
and I like, I was a Ben Stiller fan. I
love the Ben Stiller Show. I auditioned for him. He
didn't want to cast.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Me, Amos. I tell this story all the time. It
was like he he.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
Wanted to cast someone else because he was like, she's
a little too Marsha Brady for me. And then the
the Fox forced me forced me.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
On him said no, you are casting her.
Speaker 6 (47:20):
So that was.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
It was he like he did not know in fact
I would. And I don't know if you had this experience, Kate,
I don't know when how if you knew how long
you've known Ben. But I felt like the first time
I met Ben, because I had also at that point
worked with Adam Sandler and I had done Friends, and
(47:42):
I'd worked with like a lot of comedic forces, like
I had worked with really funny people. But when I
met Ben, I was like, he's so serious, so serious,
You're like, I was like, he's not cracking jokes, Like.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
He's also like looking.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
At me in my eyes when I'm talking to you
him too, which is very intensely.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Another thing, I'm very serious.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Nobody in Hollywood like looks you in the eyes, right,
you're kind of looking past you to see if somebody right,
you know, I scared.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I was like, he's very serious. But then you know,
and then.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
I got to see like the sort of you know,
genius at work and working with him and Jack, and.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Was that is that attractive? Does that add to it?
Meaning watch someone who is good at what they do?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Is that does that bring on even more attraction? And
of course, I mean.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
What kind of question is that?
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Of course, no, I want the person I went to
be terrible at what they do.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well, okay, if he was, if he was shitty at
what he did, would you still.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Be with well if he was if he was like
a mean director or like a missive or guy like he.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Is, just like he's not very talented and he's kind
of getting by.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah. Loaded.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
But the other cool thing was I, as I have,
I only knew him pass, I only knew him as
an actor, Like I knew he directed Reality Bites and
I loved that movie. But like, get us to see
somebody direct, like I think you're right, like I do think, yes,
there's something, and he's such an actor's director and he's
like so specific when it comes to the comedy and
(49:27):
getting it and the weirdness of it, and I think
just our sensibilities. But no, he didn't hit on me
at all. He was dating, kind of dating breaking.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Up with someone else.
Speaker 5 (49:36):
I was kind of going through a breakup, and like
when the thing wrapped, he was like, hey, you want
to grab dinner? And you both were kind of like
fizzling out and these other relationships, and I was like, yeah,
let's go to dinner.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
And then it just was like it was easy, but
it's also very private, like where was your first dinner?
Oh my god, you remember?
Speaker 1 (50:00):
You remember her?
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yes, of course I do. It was Michelle's in the vow.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I know Michelle.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Michelle's Michelle.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
It was in the vat I lived off the Laurel
Canyon is it's on Ventura like right now. It's where
they had the singing waiters who would sing show.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Too okay okay, oh fun And it was not.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Meant to be a romantic place because like we didn't
even have the play. But it was funny because I
think he was also like, you know, something about Mary
had already come out, like there were like stories about him,
and I think he was We were wanting to like
fly under the radar, so we found like a quiet
place Broadway show where they sing Broadway show tunes while
(50:43):
you get your pizza.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
Does he ever like tell you what is going to
happen in the in like shows like Severance, like do
you know what happens.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
You guys, like are you aware?
Speaker 6 (50:54):
Well know?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
If you know, well that has to be and of
course what if he's like sorry, but here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
But during you know, but the way they do that show,
and the first season was during COVID, so there were
no like set visits or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
So there was everything was very bubbled in a way.
But when he was.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
Editing, because it was all remote, it was all at home.
He was editing, so I and when episodes rough cuts
of episodes were done, we were the test audience, like
we were his test audience. But then like I remember
him editing once after season, like during season one, and
I remember walking by and I was like, oh, I
think I just heard a spoiler. I think I just
(51:36):
heard because I wanted to see them.
Speaker 4 (51:40):
Well see, it's like Danny won't read any anything because
he wants to actually enjoy.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
It, right, Yeah, and that's I doesn't want to know.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
I don't. I didn't want to read the scripts or
anything like that, but I do like we did get
to see the whole We like, I've seen all of
season two.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
We give he lets us give us some note, give
him some notes?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Does he take them?
Speaker 2 (52:02):
He likes to hear it sort of.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Ye what about?
Speaker 6 (52:06):
What about?
Speaker 1 (52:07):
What about?
Speaker 6 (52:08):
What about?
Speaker 5 (52:08):
He wants to hear like the visceral reaction. It's not
like I'm giving notes.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
You got to cut out of that scene?
Speaker 5 (52:16):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
You know what's funny.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
It's almost like when you're really good at what you do,
which he is, you just need to be in a
room of people and you immediately are.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Like, I gotta cut that.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Like you don't even need to.
Speaker 7 (52:30):
You can feel like that's exactly right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
You know, when something is like or if I or
if it ends, and I'm like, but what did he
mean by then He's like, okay, good because we weren't
sure if that was clear. Because they're so in it,
He's like, okay, we might need to add a thing to.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Claricy, he's directed you, like many times. Has it ever
been like babe, like shut up, no, I mean, or
or like okay, I don't I mean, has there ever
been any or is it always just kind of fun?
Speaker 2 (52:58):
It's been really fun.
Speaker 5 (53:00):
I trust him and like I really do feel safe
in And he's not like a micro manager when it
comes to performances in that way, like it doesn't have
to be, you know. And I think he's just like
very generous when it comes to so I've never had
those moments where I felt like Okay, enough enough. And
(53:23):
it's been you know, it's been a while too. It
hasn't been like you know it was in a lot
of our younger years.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, I love her.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
I love her too.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
I get I have all these crazy what I'm it's
like I wanted to share all these memories that I
have with them and and but I but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
No, I know, she's she's so great and so open
and candid, and I love that, you know, she tells
her story and unafraid of it honestly.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, And you know, and I.
Speaker 4 (53:56):
Think and I feel like it's so great. We're going
to split up two parts because.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Of course we're splitting it out. We're splitting up. It's
gonna be a two parter.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
We're gonna split up and we're gonna get back together.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Like my hairline. My hairline's becoming a two parter, Kate,
do you see.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
It, it's like a three Look at this.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
I think I'm re seating.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Oh no, Ollie, this is weird. This isn't like you.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
I'm going to I'm going to fucking get some implants
or what are they called plugs?
Speaker 2 (54:25):
A hair transplant, like just right here?
Speaker 6 (54:27):
That ship up?
Speaker 2 (54:29):
All right? Can we not talk about your vanity?
Speaker 3 (54:33):
I know, but I'm getting older now. I just had
a lot of sun spots burned off of me.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I know.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
I heard doctor Diamond really went to town on that.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
God damn, he went to town.
Speaker 3 (54:45):
Taking blood out of my body, spinning it, shooting plasma
over my face.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
At least as we said it was, let's get out
of here before it gets work. Okay, I love it you.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
Bye m
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