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March 25, 2024 43 mins

A sibling saga so shocking you have to hear it to believe it. Jaclyn Frosolone shares her story along with three of her MANY sisters. How did they find out they share the same sperm donor dad along with HUNDREDS of other people? 

Jaclyn and her sister discuss how they all found each other, the scary health issues they all have in common, and what is the dating pool like when you have scores of brothers and sisters (that you know of)? 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationships and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling railvalry No, no, sibling.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
You don't do that with your mouth ravely. That's good.
I want to talk about zapping brown spots on my face.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Good because I'm going to do that very short.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
And how it's like one of the most satisfying things
you could ever do as you get older. At What
I've decided is that before I do like a show,
because I'm about to do this net you know Netflix
show that I'm just gonna zap every spot I've ever
had on my face, But now I can't go anywhere?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I covered them? When you see them? No, it's pretty intense.
Like I like, say that word again, intense.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You were like inteen. You're like it's pretty inteen. Pretty
Uh No, I know I'm going to go to doctor Diamond.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
You have your doctor. He's the best. What do you
mean he's gonna like.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh, he's gonna he's gonna scrape.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
The whole thing clean that you're gonna love it.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I mean, look, at Look at how many I have
so much sun damage just because growing up in the
sun in California, we didn't have any clue.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, you also should get some brightener.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I don't know what. I'm gonna like a bright You're
going to go do a Morpheus. Oh, don't do that
on your I've done it, it crushed it. I'm gonna
do a p r P vampire facial.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Wow. Alli, I'm so proud of you for talking openly
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh yeah, I mean, look, bring on the filler.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh really? Oh hell yeah, filler's kind of yucky.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I don't know whatever he wants.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
You know what, you know what? You know what a
really interesting injection is a new hyerlonic acid injection.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
And you know what, we should have Nurse Jamie on,
and we should have doctor Diamond on.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
We should revel on that.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
That's a great idea, Yeah, because people want to know, Yeah,
they want to know what.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I don't think it's taboo anymore either.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I think everyone I wouldn't say taboo. It's like a perfume.
You don't always reveal what you're wearing.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, but if you're smart, you know that every single
person actor and actress, musician, whatever. Most of them have
done shipped to their face, not in a bad way,
as upkeep.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'd be shocked to know which one hasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, I mean, you know, Diamond does a lot of
celebrities and he would never reveal who, but we know
that it's been some like big male names that have
gom come through his office probably, and I think.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Too, Like as anything, as we evolve, there's just everything's different.
It's like a new facial, like a face what used
to be like a facial with like some you know,
some sort of muscle you know when they call it
the things that work the muscles, what do they call them?
That tightens the muscle. It's like a type of it's
a type of uh.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Micro current, oh right right right?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
That used to being now now it's just you know, injecting.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm going I'm going to get botox. What's any what
are you guys? What are you going to do about it? Nothing?
And I'm gonna look great, gonna look great.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm still going to be a man, you know, because
that's what I sam to say, like I just need
to be I need to look masculine. I still want
to look masculine.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Right, you don't want to. I just want to, you
want your you want to move. Of course you want
to have preventative botox exactly. But let's talk about skin
texture for a second before we get into this. By
the way, this has nothing to do if you were talking.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, this is like literally one eighty.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
I just had to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I feel like I'm getting I'm getting creepy.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well, I was just going to say, like, skin texture
and taking care of your skin obviously starts with food
and hydration and water and all those things. But like
you're saying, we grew up in the sunshine, we actually
the sun damage is a real thing anyway.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I've got just so many brown spots.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I was feeling insecure about them. But you don't even
see them.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I don't see them at all.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Great, we don't even talk about anything. Don't forget about it, Oliver.
I'm really excited about today's guests because it's another wild DNA.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I feel hearing more and more of these Yes story story, sure,
Jennie Jnae.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, it's another interesting story.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
More and more of these stories. By the way, here,
you're starting to hear them all the time, Like there's
sucking spyle flying around everywhere.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
There's so much flying superb to you please animate that
for our for our post. Yeah, it's wild, it is,
And you know, I don't want to, like, obviously, let's not,
let's not, you know, reveal too much of what we're

about to talk about. But this idea that it's so
available and that one person can just have so many kids,
it's just.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
And we'll get into it, but I want to get
into the screening process as well.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yes, we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, because that's where it gets a little bit dicey.
But let's hear that, let's hear the stories.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Great, Well, we're going to talk to you, actually, we're
going to talk to Jacqueline fro.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Is it Italian? I mean it sounds I think you're
just making everything Italian. Doesn't sound American, Froze.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It sounds like it's like provolone.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Let me say spelled.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Do you pronounce provolone?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I think everything Italian.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's like it's like with Stanley Zucchini, You're like, can't
you just say zucchini? It's like, I love you, but
just okay. So Jacqueline Froze alone Jamie Loose and Maya Alana,

all of whom are not Italian. No, but they these
are three sisters who discovered each other. And there was
an article in USA Today that just captured our imagination
and our producers at Sibling Revelry, and we were like,
let's get these ladies on and let them tell all

of us their story.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Open the door.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Did we do that?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Hi? Ry?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
So let's why don't we start with you? And I
believe that?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, first we got to talk about our last name.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Oh Yeahoni? Is it Italian?

Speaker 2 (07:34):

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Okay? Is it froze alone? Like pros alone, but Froze alone?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Correct to that?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, yeah, I like Froze alone. I like to add
at the that's okay, fine, okay?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
And is that so? So were you the one who
started this process of finding out kind of? I mean
the article was sort of based on your story.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, I had no idea they were going to do that.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, great, So why don't you Well, it was a
fascinating story, so that was pretty cool. Take us through
how that how it all started? How did you you
know p'se.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Well, we're in contact with this woman. Her name is
Laura High. She's all over TikTok Instagram YouTube and she's
also donor conceived, and she found our sibling pod through
I think one of the other siblings, and she did
interviews with us, like two years ago, she did interviews
with a whole bunch of us, and then since then

she's been contacted by outside people trying to get our information.
And she asked me a couple of months ago if
I wanted to do a podcast and if I could
get any of the other siblings to join, and I
was like, yeah, So I asked around, found a few
that were honestly willing to do it, and we did
the podcast and it kind of just like blew up
from there.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Wild. Okay, So to take us through how you discovered that,
first of all, that you you're now was it your mom?
Your mom had a sperm donor. Yes, and obviously anything
you're uncomfortable talking about, just don't just say you're uncomfortable
talking about, right, but but but but take take us
through how this all happened and how you found out

that you it was a you are a you know,
a product of a sperm donor.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Okay, all right, So I always wanted to take tests
whenever they started coming out. I was like, oh, that's
really interesting. I really wanted to know my ancestry more, like,
you know, because I always told me I was seventy
five percent Italian. I'm like, okay or whatever. So I
ended up moving out. I took a test and I
didn't tell my parents, didn't tell anybody. I just like

took it. And then for Christmas, I gifted my sister
and my sister, not my dad. I don't know why,
but I just gave the two my mom my sister
tests for Christmas. And I was like, hey, I took one.
If you guys want to take them, you know here.
I got you some. And then I got my results
and January first, twenty twenty one, like happy New Year.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I was all alone.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I opened up the email and I'm like, okay, look
and it's got all these siblings and I'm like, who
who are these fucking people? I'm like, what did they
do with my DNA? Like I really thought it was
fate when they said that you and could get flipped
around and used by random people. I was okay, so
I'm looking. I'm looking and you can click and see

where their locations are. And my dad's a hunter. So
he goes around, he hunts in different states, and they
were all like states he hunts in, and I'm like, this,
motherfucker's a cheater. I go this, he's been cheating on
my mom.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Oh my.

Speaker 2 (10:43):

Speaker 4 (10:44):
They were all younger than me, and I'm like this
is awful. Oh my god. So I message every single sibling.
There was like fifteen of them, and I'm like, hey,
I think we have the same dad. No shit, it's
not like my mom gave birth all these children. So
one girl finally met I sits me back and she's like,
so you don't have any idea.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
What's going on.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
I'm like no, I'm like I we all have the
same dad, I guess. And she basically told me. She's like, yeah,
you're from a sperm donor and we have all these siblings,
blah blah blah. There you go.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
And I was just like, did you confront your dad
when you found the results for your your mom sort
of saying, holy shit, what is going on? Or was
it almost too scary to open up that Pandora's box?
I guess.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
I sat there for about an hour kind of just contemplating,
and then I went upstairs and I woke my girlfriend
up at the time, and I was like, I don't
I'm freaking out, Like you need to calm me down.
And my sister lives down the street from me, so
she called her and she's like, you need to come here,
Jackein's freaking out, So she came over. I tell her,
now she's freaking out because she doesn't know if she's

my dad's kid, or if she's from a sperm donor
if she's even like full sibling to me, which turns
out she's not. She's actually from a different donor. So really, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And did you and your sister didn't know that any
of this either, So this was kept a secret from
you guys.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Whoa and she's eight years older than me, so she
was thirty ones you found.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Out, okay, And so your father she wasn't isn't biological?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
No, But but was this something that he was aware of? Yes, okay,
so they knew, but they didn't want to tell you guys.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, they didn't tell a soul, not even their old parents.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Right. I was reading your mom actually burned the documents.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, I was a klepto, so she needed to like
hide everything, get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, so the confrontation, How did that happen? When did
you get in the courage to do that? And did
you and your sister do it together?

Speaker 3 (12:53):

Speaker 4 (12:54):
I did it alone. It was that day, probably later
on in the day, because I found it around like
am in the morning, and it probably wasn't until two
in the afternoon that I ended up calling her. And
we have a good rapport, you know, we're we're close.
And I called her up and I was like, Hey,
when were you going to tell me I came from
a sperm donor you know, trying to lighten the mood

because I knew it was going to come off rough
because there was no warning that that was going to happen,
and just instant sobbing in tears and we never wanted
you guys to find out, and we didn't want the
relationship between your father to be ruined and just a
whole Yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
Thought very bad.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
But how was it for you? Did you did you
feel like disconnected from your dad or did you just
like were you able to reassure him that or were
you up just upset that they didn't share the information.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I honestly wasn't upset at all. I was like kind
of happy.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Right, Okay, so that's.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Kind of fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Right. How many siblings did you find out that you have?
How many do you have? And I know we're going
to talk to your other like donor siblings when they
when they when they figure out how to get on,
but like what you know, what? What did you? How
many do you have?

Speaker 4 (14:21):
There will never be an actual number because we have
no idea how many are actually out there? Oh, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Hi? Are these all siblings?

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yes, Jamie, Maya and Gianna.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Oh my gosh, wow, amazing, Wow, there's lots unpack.

Speaker 3 (14:44):

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Hello, Hi, thank you so much for having us on here.
This is.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
So this is so fascinating. You guys.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Where are you? Guys? Now? Where are you?

Speaker 6 (14:57):
We're all from New Jersey here, but we did not
grow up together.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
You found each other?

Speaker 4 (15:03):

Speaker 3 (15:04):

Speaker 6 (15:05):

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Whoa? Okay you're saying yes, and yet do you do you?

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I'm okay, I have to.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Sisters and your homies like your great friend you.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
How long have you three they're all together? For those
who are listening and can't see this, but how long
have the three of you been known that you were
sperm donors?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I've known my whole entire life. My mom always told
me my mom's a single mom. Okay, she was very fluid.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
And I have a twin brother, which is their brother.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Okay, okay, oh wow, So she has a sperm donor
and had twins. Yes, amazing. And you and and you guys, I've.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Known my whole life because I have lesbian parents and
one mom had me with the same donor that we share,
and then also had a son who's two years younger
than me, so also their brother. So I've known my
whole life. I can't hide it from that there.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah wow.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
But as far as having hundreds and hundreds of siblings,
that part I did not know.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
So what about you.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Yeah, So this is Gianna John Jamie Jamie. I'm Maya Maya.
We have Gianna Jamie Jacqueline, then.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Maya Jamie Jacqueline Maya.

Speaker 3 (16:27):

Speaker 6 (16:29):
I'm the eldest of the group. I'm like one of
the oldest siblings in the pod. I'm twenty five. So
I found out when I was sixteen that I was
donor conceived, but then I didn't take a test till
I was twenty three, so a little bit older. For
like the norm of this kind of thing. I was
not told until I was sixteen, so I kind of

went much longer than these girls had, Like I didn't
have the same privilege of knowing.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
And your parents are Are they still together?

Speaker 1 (16:59):

Speaker 6 (17:00):
Oh, okay, Now my dad couldn't have kids for a
very terrible reason, but they still wanted children. So then
that's where they went to our biological father.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Okay, So when you know from the beginning, obviously there
is no shock. Maybe the idea that you have hundreds
of siblings, correct, that's the shock, right, and that's kind
of scary exciting, But you are okay from a psychological

standpoint because your parents were open and honest and upfront
with it. Right, So maya, did you were you fucked
up a little bit about this?

Speaker 6 (17:39):
I feel like in my heart I always knew that,
like my legal father was not my biological father because
we just don't fucking look alike, that we don't behave alike.
But my mom is adopted, so I didn't. It wasn't
like a weird thing to like not be related to
someone and still consider them family. So I was. I
was fine when I was told. I was still fine. Surprisingly,

I was more so eager to find siblings, but because
I already had such a strong familial support system, I
wasn't looking for like a dad or like another parent.
I'm very blessed privileged in that way. But I was like,
I'm an only child, and now I have potentially siblings
out there, which at sixteen I didn't fucking know i'd
have over like one hundred and twenty, especially in a

concentrated area, Which is why I think it's a privilege
that these girls knew because of the obvious dangers of
not knowing who you are related to. But in all,
all in all, like I consider this like a large
blessing in a lot of ways. Life is what you
make it, and I just like to make up for

lost time because I wish that I knew these girls
like life. It would have been really nice, you know.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
And have.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
And how did you start that process of sort of
reaching out, you know, through your curiosity? How did you
find everybody?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, I guess you should start, yeah, because right, Okay,
so this started last year for me. In the beginning
of twenty twenty three. I saw my family, my my
biological family, and I was a world biological you know.
Immediate I was like there's no way I'm related to
you guys. So I was like, let me do with

twenty three and me.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
Yeah. So I did the test.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
It came back and in the beginning of the year,
just like Jacqueline, I was like, Okay, I always knew
I had siblings, but my mom was like, oh, it's
twenty five of them. And then I saw all the
siblings from the father side, and I'm just like, oh, okay,
we're still going. And then I connected with a few
of them. One of them was Maya. We got in connection,

and then.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah, oh I am twenty three. By the way, like
I said, I had gay parents, So I know about
this forever and before like twenty three and me. I
still haven't even done twenty three me or anything like that.
I only know because when it was two thousand and five,
so I was five years old, my parents put in
our donor number and matched on a donor registry site
with other siblings parents who had done at the time.

By the time I was old enough, I was about ten,
I matched with my first sister. They let me, they
let me meet her, and it was all cool and fun.
But at this point it was like every year it
was ten more siblings, ten more siblings. I mean it
was just like I first, I'm thinking it's going to
be ten, and then it turned into one hundred, and
then so on and so on. And how I kept

meeting them was that we then took those who knew
each other from the ancestry site. Yeah no, sorry, I
meant to say the donor registry site and formed a
Facebook group and anytime a new sibling would come in,
it be added there. And that's how I just kept
meeting new ones. And gosh, it was are there regulations? No?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
No, so this is zero.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
So explained that screening. But it's bad screening, correct.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I mean parents, that's it?

Speaker 6 (20:56):
Yeah, that's about it.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
What about genetic About genetic screening?

Speaker 3 (21:01):
You know, I mean nothing, it's self reported.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
The last time that I was notified, yea, and things
ever being reported.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
It's all self reported, and they're not verifying any information.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Right because it's just up to the donor to sort
of say, no, I'm good, clean, bill of health guys, Yeah,
take my blood check for some herpes. I'm good. Here
we go.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Well and hold on you. You said that you're all
very sick. But what do you what do you mean by.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
That mental physical Yeah. And and the thing is that
every sibling I'd ever get to know growing up, it's
like there's always multiple common illnesses that were shared. It's
not normal in the emerald, it's very niche. Shit, it's
like very obvious, you know. Yeah, we try to like
read into things too much, but like we can't ignore
like very obvious patterns, like if we all have like

a fucking heart condition.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Heart condition? Is that something that is runs in the
runs with the siblings, Yes, in connection? Yeah, And then
what was the other thing you said to me?

Speaker 6 (21:55):
I have gastroparesis, So my stomach, the nerves and my
stomach are partially pair of lives. There's different levels of it.
I can still eat somewhat, but like not, it's not good.
And I I share that in common with a couple
of other siblings. And I was born with horrorwh I
does the system And that's very common amongst any sibling
I've gotten to know. Actually so, and I think just

depending on our own lives and have like the things
we eat and the choices we've made, it all developed
a little differently. But our mothers, because again we do
have different moms, but like my none of our mom
Like my mom does not have any of the problems
that I have, yet I share them with all these
girls that I have the same dad with.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
So yeah, that's so. And can you actually go to
the site where this the donor and share these things
with this with with them? I mean, so that this is.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
It seems like there needs to be more awareness and
someone needs to expose this. Not like yeah, hard hitting exposed,
but still I mean this, the fact is is that
there's a genetic situation happening.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean due to the lack of screening. Me a
physical medical screening, it's very easy to do well. I
actually I don't know that how easy it is to
do a genetic screening, but seems like that would just
be standard, you know, you.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Would think to add to this, I have none of
us have been been in contact with our father, but
I've spoken to his brother, our uncle, and they both
our father and him and their sister have found out
that like they're like in the thirties, they developed acid
reflux joint issues but like it wasn't to the State's
still not reported. So we're all in the if I

never talked to this man that happened to come out
of the woodwork. We never found our uncle. I wouldn't
even know that. A lot of us struggle with like
immunal converromisation, things like that, but things where you go
to the doctor and they're like, well, there's clearly something
wrong with you, but we can't exactly figure out what
it is. So we're all very used to living in
limbo and just not knowing, and like I kind of

find we're gonna at this point, but me and Gianna specifically,
do you want do you want to?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
This is?

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Can I show like my so this is Gianna's.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Hand, oh wow, okay.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
And then this is my arm wow? And then this
is my face. Uh so and obviously that's not nice
to look at. And it's ema or whatever. We dermatitis, dermatitis, hormonal.
We all have p C O s. Yeah, so what
we get we get we get six wa see girls,

my leg.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
We don't have me.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
That's not something you just walk down the street and
like everybody has it. That's clearly like a niche thing
going on.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Are you are? Are your parents involved in this and
trying to get to the bottom of that.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Us minor not necessarily minor some parents minor pissed. Yeah,
min Jamie's parents are, Yeah, they're but again they they
started in it. They were like, you know, they laid
for us.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Do you blame your donor? I mean, I wouldn't call
him your dad.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Actually, we don't really blame him because imagine, imagine being
at twenty five years age, twenty five year.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Old man and you need money.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
You know, I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I don't think he did it because he cared for
giving like lesbian nor gay uh lesbian parents. You know,
I don't think he cared much, but I think he
needed the money. And you know, you're not going to
be too in in depth into your your health and
generally because it shows I think like four generations down
the line of like his health, his side of the family.
But it's all self reported. And for men, they don't

really get as sick as women. So a lot of
the men in our pod our brothers they're not They
don't really are affected, and if they are affected, it's
very little and they don't even realize.

Speaker 2 (26:05):

Speaker 1 (26:06):
But for a lot of me, like a lot of
my sisters, like we have skin disorders and we have
gastrol problems.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Peah, we have vocal line. We're a vocalist, like since birth,
since childbirth, and then you know, we grow up and
like we're in our twenties now and like we have
paralyzed vocal cords. I'm getting injections into my neck with
my own blood platelets to try and be able to
do what I've done my entire life. We just have
like aged, like you know, as you get older, but

it's for our case, everything happens like in rapid succession.
So now at twenty five, I'm out of the job
I had my entire life from a genetic predisposition that
I mean, how would they how would how would they
even know what.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Was the job? You were singing?

Speaker 6 (26:47):
Yeah, I'm a I'm a vocalist professionally, and like so
it is Jamie, you know, and obviously that's a major hit,
not only from a business perspective, but like that's where
our heart is, you know, mm hmm. So so than
just like our work.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Do you feel at least comfort in knowing that now
you can pinpoint where these things come from?

Speaker 6 (27:06):
And I feel like I'm not crazy.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
I feel like I had a problem, you know, But
one thing, one thing I also wanted to say aside
from health, is that he thought our donor thought he
was one hundred percent Italian, and my mom thought he was.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
She was going to get a one hundred. But the
thing is is that he himself didn't know that his
father wasn't his father. And so I went on my
twenty three and me and the only reason why I'm
Italian is because of my mother. But I'm German, I'm French,
I'm Russian, I'm assuming Asian for a German baby. Yeah,

And so he's not Italian Italian basically not wait, hold on,
he's not Italian.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I know you've said this, but he's not Italian because
he didn't know who his father was.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
So it's very loose, exactly, it's very loose. It's all
self reported, and there's no there's no real test to
really get these banks.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
And I don't want to talk. We shouldn't even know this.
Like the things that we have figured out have been
from other siblings getting curious and like going and finding him,
and like when I first joined the pod, I was
immediately When I say immediately, I was immediately contacted by
our other siblings and they showed me where our dad lives,
what he looks like legals.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Do anyone look like him? I mean, it's fine.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
So we come a long way.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
That's no jobs. Gotta be honest out here, you know,
we all like our mom's honest, like if you for
the most part, like look at his face and your seat.
Oh my god, wait a minute, there's the smile. It's
dad's smile. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Do you spend a lot of time together?

Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yes, and if we if we could spend time with
Jack there so far and it's it's a hustle. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
So are the four of you guys very tight and
as far as the big pod goes you for the
closest at least, are there other pods within the pod?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I don't like that, but we're open. We accept anyone
that wants to come in and no toxicity here.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
What is allowed now that you, for the four of
you would like to see change, like, is there anything
that you would actually I mean, you're you know, you're
you're talking about it and clearly this is a complicated scenario,
and is there anything you'd like to see change?

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Limits? How many children can be born from one donor?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Because and I have a story, I have two stories.
So I complete agree with Jacqueline. There should be a
limit and there's not, and that is an increase of incest.
And it's scary, and not only from us, but if
we were to have kids, and our kids have kids,
and we're all so like concentrated in one area unless

we moved out, it's scary, and it's so scary.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
There's my two stories.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Jamie's Jamie's brother just as related.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
I lived a block away or not live I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
I went to elementary school a block away from their house,
their grandparents' house. And a few months ago I found
out that I'm a server, so I served my brother
a burger and I didn't even know he was my brother,
and I just I just found that out yesterday and
it's honestly, it's it's shocking and it's insane how like

we could see we could pass each other on the
street and not even know we're related. And if I
stayed in the school system that I was in, because
I did it, My two elementary best friends are best
friends with her brother. Her brother's name is Johnny, our brother,
so I was best friends with Johnny's current friends. And
it's if I stayed in the system I wouldn't have

known that that was my brother unless.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
We talked about it.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
God forbid, you know something happened between me and him,
we wouldn't even.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, that's what I was about to ask. You know,
do you guys have boyfriends or girlfriends? I mean, or
is that yeah? You do?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
And this is where I come in.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
So I'm a lesbian, and obviously that means that like
when it comes time for me to have children, my
girlfriend and I we're gonna have to go through some
kind of donor whatever. I definitely have my opinions where
I would be comfortable getting you know, that kind of

stuff from. I don't believe going through a bank is
the best or best societally like, because again I don't
want to contribute to the larger issue, which is like
possible incest. Since my mom is adopted, I'm donor conceived,
and my children will be donor conceived. It's like my
childre are going to have like first cousins, seconds, third cousins,

hundreds and thousands of relatives that it's like it's almost
cool to bring a child into that kind of situation.
So the what I can do as a mother when
I want to become one, which I do is that
like I would like to do something more private, So
like I would prefer as a gay person to go
to a dude who wants to do things for like lesbians.

You know what you feel me like, But there there
are ethical out there, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I don't I don't know what's the top of my head,
but I do know people are doing it right out there.
But when it comes to the conventional places, the banks,
their industries on me. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Also I would also like to not really quick just
for my story as well as I'm uh. One of
our sisters, so one of the closest sisters to me,
uh is also a lesbian. A lot of our siblings
are lesbians. I mean, there's a lot of us, so
of course there's going to be gay people in our family.
But because the lesbian community is already so small, my
girlfriend that I've been with for over here we share

a place together, one of my sister, our sisters, I
should say, one of our sisters tried to holler at
my girlfriend surprised. So, like my girlfriend has seen many
of my sisters on dating apps. I'm sure we've seen
our own siblings on dating apps.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
What's the screening process for something like that when you
are living there is none. Yeah, that's well, I know,
but I'm saying, well, you're like almost living in fear
of intimacy because, oh my god, am I going to
be with my sibling.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I just want to say that I think that, you know,
it's a very good cause to fight for more regulations
with sperm donors like you guys, and hearing your story
and talking about this. The only people who can actually
move the needle and that are people like you who

are in the scenario and it's happening and has happened
to you guys, and you're, you know, discovering all of
these new things, and you can you can really speak
to it. I mean, that's that's I can't even believe
I didn't even know this, you know, I was.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I was, Yeah, I'm aware of the limits.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
And then I wonder, like I asked before, you know,
is it a state is it state by state regulations?

Speaker 4 (34:30):

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Is it different? Is it more controlled?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Like is this I don't know if it's a federal thing,
I have no I have no idea. I have to
look it up, do you guys know?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
No, I do know about like a different countries like
Australia and UK they have a cap people only have
like ten kids for donor something like that because they're smart.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, it might be.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
It might be at the state level, which which would
you know?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
It's such an easy thing though. Essentially when someone is
donating sperm, they're doing it in an area that you
know will be populated by your seeds, so to speak,
because those are the people are going to be going, right,
I mean, so it's a business. No, No, I know
there's money, but why you know, why not put a
cap on something like that.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
We can't say where we're from because we'll literally be
like someone's going to knock on a board probably, but
we our bank is not in New Jersey. It's actually
quite far. I'm sure there's some kind of like human
science behind like like, well, the commonality we have is
like we were expected to have like an Italian father,

and like Jersey people, we love Italian so you would think,
you know what I mean, like it makes sense that
New Jersey, New York. You know, we're all kind of
like we want an Italian father. But our bank is
not in New Jersey. Wow, Okay, my parents literally wanted
to go to this place because they're like, oh, if
there are siblings, so that my kids will never run
into them because it's.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
So far well, I mean it, maybe do you have
any idea or the records of the donor and what
the sort of statistics are on his sheet, meaning like
elite athlete, like the hottest men in Can you just

lie on these things and just the superman?

Speaker 4 (36:19):

Speaker 6 (36:19):

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Wow? All right, Wow, ladies, I'm gonna ask We're gonna
ask one more question, which is, what advice would you
give do others who might find themselves in a similar
situation as you.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
You're not alone. There's way more people out there than
you think going through this exact same situation.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's ridiculous, and would you encourage them to reach out
and try to find.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yes, the people are there being silenced by other siblings.
That's why nothing has come forward yet. We're like the
first ones.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, you're you're actually the second sibling. We we interviewed another.
They were older then they were older.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
They're different and they.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Also have how many siblings? Sixty five sixty five siblings?

Speaker 2 (37:14):

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I love you guys have come together and and sort
of found each other and have become not only siblings
but best friends and advocates for each other. H you
know what I mean. It's dope, it really is. And
I think that you, as young people, have an opportunity
to expose this and shine a light on it because
it does seem a little bit crazy. It's hard because

you want to be an advocate, but you also want
to just have your life and not But if you
do sort of see how this is ruining potentially ruining
people and you're seeing this mental illness, you.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Know, and and not knowing, you know, we need we
should know what our genetic makeup is and I and
and it helps us, it helps our profile and like
how we can be the healthiest we can be, Like
we now know that we can take these genetic tests
and really understand how to take care of ourselves. And

you know, they should they should be screening those things.
And it kind of goes without saying it seems weird,
but I would encourage I'm just gonna say, I would
encourage you to find out if it's a federal uh,
if if it's at the federal level for the I'm
going to assume it's at the state level for the
regulations but if it's crossing borders, if it's crossing state borders,

then yeah, it.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Seems like it seems like the wild West, like sperm
flying everywhere, just a wild West.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
It's so hard to talk about because we don't even
really know what we can and cannot say. And I
really appreciate you guys giving a flock because somebody like
we need help. Like it's you know, it's it's going
to be a collaborative experience. I mean, you don't want
a bunch of incested motherfuckers running.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Around what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
Human being issue, like it's a societal issue, human rights.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you so much
for getting Thank you guys. This was awesome.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
M that was a whirlwind.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I've been shocked. Oh yeah, it's so fun to interview
young you know.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah. Well yeah, that's what was really interesting too, is
we did have on another guests.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
They were older, they were older, and it.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Was a completely different conversation obviously when you're twenty five
and going through life and figuring it out.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, totally different.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
This makes total sense.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, it was a gen z whirlwind.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
But totally but very articulate, and they have a really
good you know you can very articulate, Yeah, very articulate,
small and.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
They have a I mean, this is a real issue.
That's unbelievable. And they're in the same state.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
It's so weird, in the same little city. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
And the fact that she was saying that her she's
serving a burger to her brother. Yeah, and like she
could have been like, hey, you're super cute. Can I
get your number or you know, you have no idea.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Her bank was many many miles away apparently I can't
say where it was, Memember, it was not in state.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
This is the whole thing is mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
And then all of the genetic disorders, yeah, you know
it's not all of the EXITMA and the skin issues.
And then how it was more female driven.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
And you would think that with science today that there
has to be you have to do a genetic test
to find out what those genetic things are. It is
so that so that the woman or couple or man
whoever is getting the sperm donner, you know, needs to
know what they're getting.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
I mean, with that many siblings, I don't even know
how to one hundred percent two of them have slept together.
There's almost one hundred percent chance.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Which, by the way, she's right, it's a that's a
human rights issue.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
That is that is incest is illegal, I think correct.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Well, and it's also it's also just did you imagine
falling in love with your brother, your sister? What if
Aaron was your half sister?

Speaker 2 (41:21):

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Oh what disgusting?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Of course I'm an idiot, she's right now, stepsister, then
it would be kind of hot.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
No, no, but seriously, like I'm serious, this should be
protected and and.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
There's got to be something happening, you know what I mean,
there's got to be someone fighting the fight.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I think it's really brave of those girls to be
talking about it, because it's true there's a lot of regulations.
They are probably not supposed to be sharing this information. Yeah,
and and like and like John Acland said, it's like
you're not alone and there's a lot of people out
there and it should be stopped. And they need to
take care of each other. You need to know who

your siblings are so.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
That so you don't stuff them well.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Also, like I mean, for the most part, it's also
a health thing. You know. It's like when you go
into a doctor's office and they ask you about your
family's medical Yes, that you need to know. Now you're
gonna have two hundred people to write down that.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Secondary secondary to stop though. That's number one. And you
need to notice you don't have a stup where you're like,
uh okay, oh god, let me just put that out
of my head.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Talk about sending some people into like a tizzy, get it.
I don't know kizzy sending I went into a tizzy.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I know you're like, back in nineteen.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Thirties, I'm like, hold on to get an ice cream
from the ice Anyway. I thought that was absolutely fascinating
and all right, peace out,
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