February 15, 2024 • 50 mins
In this episode of Sloane Knows, Sloane talks to Golden State Warriors star Draymond Green. They discuss Green's journey from being drafted in the second round to becoming a four-time NBA champion. Green shares advice for his younger self, emphasizing the importance of managing the highs and lows throughout an NBA career. He highlights the fierce competitiveness of teammates Steph Curry and Klay Thompson as their best attributes. Green also praises the Warriors' young players and their professionalism and potential. Always someone who gives back, Green talks about mentoring younger players, following the example set for him as a rookie. Plus, find out if Sloane knows more about Draymond and his career than Draymond does with Sloane Knows Your Game Trivia! (42:21) #Volume #Draymond
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hi, I'm Sloan and I know the NBA. Today's guest
needs no introduction. He's a four time NBA champion and
in all stuff, he's one of the best defenders in
the league, a successful podcaster, and part of the core
Golden State Warriors. We are live from Chase Center with
the one and only Draymond's Cream.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Dre.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm sixteen years old and you're thirty three, and I'm sorry.
I feel like I try to make you feel old
a lot, and you're not old. But in the league
of the NBA, I mean, like, you know, thirty three, now,
sixteen was a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You know absolutely, I remember sixteen years ago or seventeen
years ago. Would take me to see I remember that.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, good, because that was a lockdown. I'm about to
ask you a lot of questions about that. So at
sixteen years old, what were you like as a basketball player?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
At sixteen years old as a backasketball player is when
I first kind of started to come into my own.
I was kind of freshman I mean sophomore or junior year,
and my junior year season is when I really took off.
My freshman year, I played freshman basketball my sophomore year,
I was on varsity. I started every game on varsity,
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but I was a role player for sure, like I
kind of have my role. And I did that my
junior year, like the team became on and that we
won our first st AID championship. So that was really
my first experience of winning a school championship. Like I
lost in sixth grade, I lost in seventh grade. I'm lying.
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I did win in eighth grade, but we didn't have
in my city. We didn't have like a tournament, so
you have like twelve regular season games and the best
record won a championship. So it wasn't like you actually
had to go win a championship.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
And so that was my first experience sixteen of truly
winning a championship. You wanted like an AU tournament, but
like really winning a real championship.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
That's what I was doing at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's like you were manifesting your life in the future,
you know what I mean, Like all those shifts.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So speaking of AAU, I know a lot of the
guys that have interviewed have told me really cool stories
about when they were playing AAU. They were able to
play against other NBA players and create really special bonds
with these future guys that they were going to continue
to have a career with. Do you have any guys
like that that you've just been friends with since you
were really young.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I know I have a few guys that I've played
against since I was young. I was actually on Instagram
the other day Manny Harris, who played with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
He played with the Los Angeles Leakers for a short
amount of time. Manny Harris grew up in Detroit, Michigan,
and Manny I remember growing up like as a young kid,
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like fifth and sixth grade, seventh grade, We're coming from
saging On, small city. We go down, we play those
guys from Detroit, and like, you get a toe different
feel from who we play back at home, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And Manny was one of those players.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
He was absolutely incredible, and he used to destroy us
when we were younger, and then we played against each
other in the state championship of high school.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
He went to Michigan. I went to Michigan State, And
so I would say, if there.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Was one guy that I remember from that I remember
playing against from elementary on through college and even in
the NBA. That guy for me and who was like
motivation for me growing up because we couldn't He played
for the Cobras when we were growing up. We could
not beat them, and so it was always motivation for
me to try to beat him.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So I think I'd say the one guy.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
For me was man here, okay, and do you think
you know? I know we talked a little bit about
Michigan State, like did you come out of the woman
You were like, I'm going to go to Michigan State
like that, how did that go down?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So ironically, my aunt played at Michigan State. And I'm
born in nineteen ninety old. The fact that you think
nineteen ninety is old.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I was born in two thousand and seven, so you know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I remember two thousand and seven like it was yesterday.
I graduated high school in eight But the fact, like
I get laughed at by people for being born in
the nineties and I'm at the very beginning of the nineties,
and the fact that you think that it's old, it
is just mind bodying to me.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But Michigan State. My aunt went to Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I think in like ninety three, ninety two, ninety she
was there when Steve Smith was there, so maybe ninety
one ninety two somewhere in there, I would go down
like and we would go see her play. I had
been to my aunt's dorm, which in full circle moment
ended up being the dorm that I also lived in
when I got to Michigan State. But I used to
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be terrified as Party. Loved to Michigan State, loved the green.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And white, creepy, terrified of s party.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I go to these games. I was also the kid
that was terrified of Chuck E Cheese like, and so
I would go to these games see my aunt, and
I thought that was absolutely incredible. I would always say
then like I'm gonna go to Michigan State. I'm gonna
go to Michigan State. Then you start ninety eight, ninety nine,
two thousand, I am eight nine, ten years old and
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the Flintstones matteen, Clees, Morris Peterson, Charlie Bell, Antonio Smith,
Jason Richardson from Saginaw.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They're playing at Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
They win a national championship in two thousand and so
for me growing up as a young kid, and I
remember I can always place Michigan State from when I
was three, four years old, and then to see them
at ten years old winning.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
The National Championship. I thought that was everything. Flint. Flint,
Michigan is twenty minutes away from sagan On.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Jason Richardson being from saganaw to watch those guys and
be like, Wow, they're on it. They're playing in the
National Championship, They're being Florida in the National che I
want to go to that school. And me and my
brother from that time it was like, yeah, we're gonna
go to Michigan State.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah on Michigan.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Though. You know what's funny, I this is gonna get
you going in the state of Michigan. You grow up,
you're you're a Michigan fan, or you're a Michigan State fan.
As I'd imagine in LA you're the U C, l
A or USC. Most people maybe not you Sloan because
you pick your own teams, like you didn't picked the
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Lakers and pick the Warriors, but you usually pick one
of those schools. And so for us, it's like all right, Michigan,
Michigan State. Michigan State is a no brainer. Like the
colors are better, Like the school is better, the coach
is better, the program is better, you know, like it's
time is though it's a hall of fame.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Nobody can stand that but I.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And then then, like I said, it was also something
that I could see though at a young age and say, oh,
those guys are like men, Like they come from a
similar place that I that I come from.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And so and then I'm not gonna lie. I like
teams that win.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, this is football, but like eleven and oh,
you know, like this.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Year, but like they were still in signs and you know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Like okay, so you're gonna okay, so you're a you're
a believer in the steeling.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I mean it's obvious clear as day, and everybody's like,
oh you know, they they still signs, everybody still.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But you can't be that egregious, like to place.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Someone on the other sideline of another team dressed up
as their coach.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Do we really want to talk about them being came.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Out that Michigan State did the same thing. You would
deny it though, right.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, Michigan State is going through their fair share of.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Ok so you're gonna allow them, Okay, So you're just you're.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Fair mich But I think you also have to be fair,
like you can't. You can't just kind of say, oh,
they accepted this, were sweeping it under rugg like you
still gotta be fair to people.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But that was I mean, that's that's some intense signs stealing.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's a little crazy, for sure, and it definitely does
not give a good message to anyone else out there. Like,
it's also a school, you know, like people go there
like if I was a Michigan student now, like the
football teams cheating, Like I don't know what's happening in
those classes.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You know, well, you know, this is also a school
that really prides themselves on trying to make us went
to Michigan State for like we're done.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, And you know.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's just I think it's pretty ironic that they're so
smart and they had caught like this, like.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Badly, like branhanded.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Real, it's a little ironic to those of us that
they try to they try to make feel less than
I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, I feel like you almost what's really cool about
you is that, in a way, you've been an underdog
for so long and you just continuously continuously prove people wrong, right,
And I'm curious being a second rounder does that Do
you think that that's shaped who you are now?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Do you do you remind yourself constantly like that many
teams passed up on me, and yet I was this good.
You know, I am this good for.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
A long time.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
For a long time, I will remind myself that because
to your point, I was the underdog. And you know
what I've tried to learn throughout my journey is I
was the underdog for a very long time. I'm no
longer the underdog, and I think I think it's very
important that you can identify those stages because the mentality
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that you have to have as an underdog. If you
have that same mentality and you're not the underdog, it's distasteful.
And so for me, I've always tried to and like,
don't get me wrong, it's hard to do because you
go so long with this mindset of I just need
to get it out the mud. I need to get
it anyway I can. And you go so long with
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this mindset and then you get to a space where
the world no longer view you that way. And that's
when it gets interesting, because when you're the underdog, the
world is rooting for you and they want to see
you do well. Everybody loves a good underdog, everybody loves
a good Cinderella story, and so it's all fine and
Danny the moment they no longer see you as the underdog,
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where now they say, oh, well, what I think of
him is this. I no longer view him or her
as this.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
This is where I placed him at.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And that's when it starts to get interesting because again,
those same things that you did as an underdog, now
that they no longer look at you that way, it's
not viewed totally different.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And so I think, for me.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
An interesting adjustment that I had to make, and I
must be honest, you still like it's a never ending thing,
like you never really get to the space of life.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I'm not the underdog.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I never do underdog things like there are still times
where you do those things because it was such a
part of you for so long, you know, And so
I think just identifying when you're no longer the underdog
is as important as having the underdog mentality when you
need it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And what advice do you think you would give sixteen
year old Dre to be like in that time when
I mean you said you played freshman basketball as a
freshman and then you were a role player your sophomore
year on varsity. But what would you tell that sixteen
year old kid, like, I'm a four time NBA champion, Like,
what do you think you would think?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Think? I think what I would tell that kid is
I would tell him the things that he need to
understand about the journey along the way, because you go
through so much on this journey, and some of the
things you go through with people, and some of the
things you have to go through alone.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And it's.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I think it's it's very it's very interesting because what
you end up realizing is so many people can't do it, Like,
so many people can't walk through those things alone or
walk through those things with somebody and the one, but
the but the very few. Like it's it's a reason
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it's only four hundred and fifty guys in NBA, like,
because the few that can go through those things, the
few that can come out on the other side of
that are the ones that you see and they make
it and you know the world knows them and you
know the world can appreciate their craft.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think there's one anomally to that, and that's Patrick
mccau because, like, you can't win three championships in like
your three years in the league and then just like
dip and then be like I did it, you know
what I mean, Like I really went through it, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
One percent.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But even that, like I think, like I love Pat
by the way, like Pat was my teammate, we won
two championships with one championship together, we won one championship together.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think you want too and then you want to
one here.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
One with the raptions, okay, but but Patrick.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Is an anomaly, and I think it's a little different feeling, right,
Like you're such a basketball fan, you'll remember that.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think I.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Loved Patrick McCaw. I was like ten years old and
I was like, that is the most beautiful man I've
ever seen at ten years old. Let him know, Like
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Uh, I think with Patrick, you didn't look at the
way the career ultimately ends up panning out. And I
think if there were a lot of things that Patrick
would change, I think, but there's also things that along
my journey that I was yeah, you know, and so
I just think, uh, and looking back at the sixteen
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year old and saying, what what that has to be?
Along the way, you just have to understand the steps
of the journey because it's it's it's brutal. There's times
where you want to quit, and I think it's it's okay.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
To fill those feelings, right, Like, we go through it.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And as a basketball player, you're taught as an athlete,
you're taught like, no, you just gotta keep going, keep going,
like get through it, keep going, and.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
That bils you out to be a certain type of way.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
But I think in going through it, you have to
understand that, like try not to ride the roller coaster
because it's and by the way, it's still a roller coaster.
Like I'm thirty three years old, I'm playing at the
highest level you can play.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
And it's still a roller coaster. You know.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
But as you get older, as you've been in it,
you learn like that, I can't ride.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
This roller coaster.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Like sometimes you experience the highest of highs and you
experience the lowest of lows, and to ride that wave
the entire time, it's impossible.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, it's a mental game too, one hundred.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
So that's what I would just tell the sixteen year
old men, is like, okay, great, there's four championships, there's
these things in college. There's these things in high school
in the conference. Don't ride away, don't like just do
not ride away?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, okay, So now I want to move on because
I've been so lucky. One of the privileges of my
life has been to get to know you. And I
think what I think is so special about you is
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the way that, even though it is so many you
are probably such a god right, so untouchable, we feel
like we know you right, Like you make your opinion known.
You make who you are known to everyone, which I
think is so special, especially as a kid, because you know,
I'm not going to name names, but there's people out
there where I admire them, but I don't know them,
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you know. And with you, I think that people really
understand who you are. People know your opinion, which is
so cool, Like you know, you really got it. You
have to use your voice, and so I know you.
I think the world knows you, but I want to
get to know Sloan knows Dre a little better. All right,
What was the most memorable play of your career?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
The most memorable play of my career, I would have
to say is as memorable as it is. I can't
recall the exact years, either twenty seventeen or eighteen, who
were playing against the Portland Trailblazers.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And Damian Liller gets the ball on the wing.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
After we turn the ball over, Clay turned the ball
over and Damian Lilla gets the tracks the ball down.
He gets the ball on the wing. If you know,
Damian lillar like, you better get out there. He's shooting it.
So I run out there and I take this shot
away and then no Avan is coming running down the court.
He hears no advante and I circle back around to
the rim and I just go vertical. And when I
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realized it, I'm like, oh man, I'm dunked on Because I.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Circled, I'm right under the rim.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
This dude got a full he has a full head
start coming downhill at me, and I gotta jump straight
up and go vertical. And I just jumped and went
vertical and I got the block. That to me, I
would say was the most play. Like I had a
great series that series, but that play, like I felt
like I locked their whole offense down myself, and that
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play was like a microcosmo.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That is what I always say. My dad and I
talk about this all the time where sometimes you'll I'll
watch your highlights and people don't understand that you stop
the whole team by yourself. Like that's a really hard
thing to understand because you're like, oh, You're like, oh no,
you know they just threw the wall out of bounce
and you're like no, no, no, no, no, dream on one hundred
percent force that, whether it was mental, whether it was physical,
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Like if you really watch those highlights every single time
something happens, like I swear your name, your fingerprint was
on there, it is true. And I also think that
is the same with Gary Payton the second big shout out,
that's my guy. I love him so much. And I
just noticed this. I mean, every time the other team
messes up, I'm like, it was either Gary or Drey.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I definitely appreciate it. And and reality is it's like,
in order to do what we do on the defensive end,
I always say people people don't value or approach the
defensive end the same way that they do the offensive
and the same way. You have to have spacing on
on offense. You have to have one defense, like and
there's so many little nuances to where if one guy
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isn't on the same page, it all falls down, you know.
And so I do understand the importance of like having
everybody on the same page and trying to lead that.
But as far as defense goes, like again, just like offense,
there's things that you want to get to as a defender,
there's things that you want to get to when you
understand what they're trying to get to. And I think
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for me as as just always trying to be a
step ahead of the play, knowing like, oh man, they
want to get there with if I can get to
that spot before they get there, it throws off the
entire time and.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Of their play.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
And that's and that's what I try to do and
and and focus on. And I try to cause the
same havoc for opposing offenses as great offensive players cause
for opposing defenses.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
For sure. And on the topic of defense, as obviously
the defensive player of the year, can you give me
two defenders currently in the NBA that are just extremely underrated?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Well A Sloan knows alone.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
And I feel like everyone always says I feel like
everyone always say this guy is underrated. And I think
the reason everyone always says he's underrated is like because
he doesn't have a Defensive Player of the Year. He
hasn't been on as many all defensive teams for as
good of a defender as he is. And it's Drew Holliday.
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Drew Holliday is like I was watching the game the
other day, Al Horford went out, Porzingis was out, like
not playing at night.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Al Horford goes out the game and like.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Boston's matchup, Like you can tell in their shoot around
in their game that the matchup is now Drew Holliday
and Joe l Embiid And yeah, they're throwing the double team.
But if you know anything about defense, Drew has to
keep embating a position for or the double team to
be able to get there.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, Drew is outsized by Joe.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
L and b by at least one hundred pounds, at
least at least six inches, probably more. And he's just
holding his.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Own Me and Drew and absolutely facts.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
And by the way, one of the like Joel is
an incredible player, like MVP. One of the most impressive
things about that is Joel's a dog. Joel will embarrass
you if he can. He will go right at you him.
It wasn't like he saw Drew and it was like
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I smell blood, And I think that is one of
the most incredible things, Like when it's no better feeling
as a defender, when you're like, say, I'm running up
and my guy's going to set a screen and the
guards like, nah, man, you get out of here, bring
that guy up, And as a defender, you just feel
accomplished because it's like, oh, he don't even want to
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face me right now. And so I think Drew is
one and the second one is an underrated defender. I
think the second one is Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Really okay. Also for the real ones out there also
a slow nose alum to like a certain extent. I
did like a cute little interview with him, but it
was like a minute but with the help of Dre,
I know Adie will be sitting in that chair one.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Day, absolutely. But ad Ad is a is. Ad can
switch onto a guard and keep a guard in front
of him if he needs to. He can play in
the drop and he's one of the most devastating players
playing in a.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Guarden, picking and rolling and drop.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
He's a versative defender, Like you can put ad in helpside,
and you put him in help side and he'll cover
the whole week side up. You put him in the action,
he can guard the action, no problem. So uh very
My second one would be Anthony.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Davis crazy that they were teammates, you know, like that
New Orleans team.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Is special, we beat them.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Well, I mean, you're more special. So one clip of
mine that went viral on TikTok was I was talking
to Drew and I asked him, I said, you know,
I also agree that I think Drew's a very underrated defender.
And I said, it's such a talented defender yourself. Who's
someone that you've guarded that probably the outside world doesn't
realize how difficult it is to guard them. And he said.
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Bobby Portois and all these people were like, why didn't
you say Steph Curry? And we were like, the question
is underrated, Like people need to listen to the context.
And I think, like you were saying earlier, like there's
four hundred and thirty guys plus in the NBA, Like
I mean, every kid has played basketball at one point
in their life, and four hundred and thirty around that
number guys make it to the league. These guys are special,
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even if they're not Steph Curry. They could drop sixty
on anyone's head that's not in the league, you know,
and like, who's a guy like that to you that
you're like, people don't understand, but he's good.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Every guy in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Okay, every guy.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Though, I always tell like, you know, people see guys
in the NBA and they're like, oh man, that guy
suck and to your points, like that guy that you
thinks up will destroy you so badly, Like you have
to like you just there's a certain level of player
that you have to be the player. Then yeah, Now,
don't get me wrong. I know you probably saw like
pg's podcast where PG and Tomorrow was talking about guys
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in the NBA that suck. Now that's to an NBA level,
Like there are some guys in the NBA that you
don't quite feel should be here. But that doesn't mean
Joe Bloke can just beat them at basketball, Like, no,
they'll destroy Joe Blow. However, there's I always say that
there's guys like everyone has a guy or two in
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the league where when you play that guy, he causes
you fits like nobody tomorrow, but it's the guy that
no one would expect, Like I have a couple of
people and it just shows you how good they actually are.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
One was TODJ. Gibson. For me, TODJ. Gibson.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I played against Todge Gibson as a freshman in college.
We played against him and Demargar Rose and they were
at USC ron Lewis. They had enough Daniel Hackett. We
played them in the second round, I think the first
or second round in the NCAA tournament in Minneapolis, and
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Goran Suton got in foul trouble. Another one of our
big men got in foul trouble, and so I had
to go in the game and.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Guard Tashe Gibson.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
If you remember anything about Todge Gibson at USC, he
was a problem. And I'm garden TODJ. Gibson, and I
go in and I do an incredible job. All our
upper classmen is in foul trouble and I.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Caused fits for TODSH Gibson.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
And that was the end of Todge Gibson's career because
he didn't goes on and go to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I stay, I finish out my next three years of college.
He goes on to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
When I get to the NBA, I now have to
guard Taje Gibson. At this time, Todash Gibson's in Chicago,
and I remember vividly my second year Jermaine O'Neill, one
of my OG's on the team, and we're playing Chicago
and I'm trying to guard Tage Gibson and he hit
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me with an up and under boom, step through bucket,
shimmy shake bucket, and the game goes on. And now
the only way I can get on the court my
first year and a half was to stop somebody. And
I am like, I can now get a stop on
this dude. So I tell Jermaine O'Neill it is one
of the very few times in my career, really, the
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only one that I can really point to why I
actually got Yo. I need you to switch with me,
like I'm gonna take your match up. You gotta go go.
I cannot stop this guy.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
One of them was.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Toash Gibson, and then the other guy that no one
would ever guess, incredible player that give me fits. I
actually have the.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Honor of being a teammate with him.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Now, is it a slow nose alone?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh, okay, but maybe he will be one day. Okay,
Dario sorrye wow, Okay, he is a silent killer.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
He would give me fits no matter if he was
at Philly, Minnesota, Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Okay. See, Dario Sarge every time I played against him
would give me a fit.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
And it's like if you just go and you tell
someone like they're like, yo, who's the guy in the
league like that you struggle with the guard? No one
would ever guess that I'd be like Dodge Gibson and
Dario Sarge.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
And that just goes to show you how good guys Arena.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Do you tell Dara.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
That I have not but he'll figure it out now.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But then, like you know, that's a really I guarantee
that that shoots up his self esteem a little bit.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Darrio's my guy. I love Dario.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
He's incredible teammates have but I don't like sharing my
weaknesses with people.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, well, I'm really glad to see this is the thing,
Like I get to bring this out of you, you know
what I mean. It's good to talk about your emotions.
So m hmm. Okay, So Draymond, when I first met you,
you talk to me a lot about positivity and how
the idea of what I do that differentiates me from
other people and you as well. Is the idea of
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speaking positively because a lot of what the NBA media
is is it's asking people, Oh, you know, who's a
player in the league that annoys you?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And like, what's the purpose of that question?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Like, yes, you can probably get a lot of likes
on that, but it's not I mean, at the end
of the day, who has that helped?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
You? Know?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
That?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That hasn't improved anyone's life really, And so I decided
that I wanted to, you know, create a segment where
instead of that, I basically asked those questions in just
a way, nicer way, okay, and instead of the player
in the league who annoys you the most? Who is
your favorite player? You know? Stuff like that. So I
want to I want to talk about that a little
bit with you, and I want to start off talking
about Clay and Seth the Splash bros. I mean, you
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guys have been through thick and thin together and the
world knows how incredible they are. But is there something
specific that we don't see behind the scenes that makes
both of them so uniquely special?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I think, I think something that people don't get to
see with Stephan Clay is how competitive they are. You know,
you don't win at the rate that we've won with
guys that aren't competitive. And you know, because they shoot
the ball the way they shoot the ball, because they
play with the flash that they play with. I've seen
so many teams and guys make the mistake of thinking, Oh,
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I'll just bully him, I'll just get physical with him,
and like.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
It'll be no problem.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And they run up against those guys and they quickly realize, like, ah,
what that.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Approach doesn't necessarily work to me?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
The most like two of the greatest shooters ever that
we've ever seen. In my book, the two greatest shooters
we've ever seen, their number one attribute, their number one
skill is not their shooting. Their number one skill is
their competitive nature. Wow, And that's something that doesn't get
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any credit. No one ever says. But Klay Thompson is
one of the fiercest competitors I've ever seen. No one
ever says Steph Curry is one of the most competitive
guys I've ever seen. Did you see him in this moment?
Did you see how he stood up in that moment?
No one ever talks about that because the shots so beautiful. Yeah,
but that's the reason behind the four championships. It is
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not the shot.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I love that. And now that we're moving on from
Stephan Clay, you know, they were people that people understand
why they're amazing. But can you tell us something incredible
about a young Warrior that you've been able to play
with in the past few years, maybe instead of sharing
something new like you shared Stephen Clay, something maybe that
we just haven't been able to see yet, but that
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we will see about a young guy and the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Is I think we've had quite a few young guys
over the last few years, but I can speak about
the ones that that we currently have. I think when
I look at the Warriors, the Warriors are in good hands.
When you look at young guys like BP, Brandon Potjemski,
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Trace Jackson Davis, like those are guys that are coming
to the NBA right now and they're ready to play
right now.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yes, And.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
That's how we were coming in to them. Like when
we came in, we were ready to play. It wasn't like, oh,
you need two years, you need three years to try
to figure like yeah, you still had to figure things
out for sure for the next two three years, but
you can put us in the game right away and
we be just fine. And those are the rookies that
we have right now, and I think they are incredible.
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The energy that they bring to the team absolutely amazing.
And I think, like BP, that kid is like a gamer.
You just put him in the game. He figured out.
And by the way, we realize that playing this summer
and like we're playing pickup and we're getting together for
like we got together for a little team mini camera
(31:21):
and you're like, yo, no.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
This dude is like he's gonna play. And so I
can appreciate.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Those guys, and I don't think the world has gotten
a chance to really see how good those young guys
are and what they will be for this organization. You
got young guys like Jonathan Kaminga and Moses Moody. Kaminga
has no clue how good he is, yeah, And I
think that's so incredible because he believes he's good. It's
(31:51):
like a weird thing. He doesn't have a clue of
how good he is. But he actually he's a confident kid,
so he believes he's good.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
It's not even that he doesn't have the right level
of confidence because he is as confident as they come. Ok,
but he doesn't know how good he is yet, because
he's still figuring it out right, Like he's still figuring
out Oh man, I got this.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Smaller guy on me.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I don't need to speed up and go faster him.
I need to slow down and just get him to
the spot I want to get to. Now, I can
just raise up over and make the game simple, you know,
more easy for myself. And so when I say Kaminga
doesn't like he has the confidence, but he doesn't know
how good he is, it's just because he hasn't even
really tapped into yet all of the things that he's
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capable of tapping into. That for someone who's been in
for twelve years, I see, Oh, he's going to get
to this and he'll figure that out.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
The game will slow down for him in this area.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
He'll do that. And absolutely special. Moses the most professional
guy I've ever been around. Next to Kavon Looney. When
you're talking about a young guy who coming in and
just gets it, gets how to work, gets how to
how to carry themselves. Moses is one of those special
people that like you look back into an organization thirteen
(33:07):
years from now, and you're like, man, he's just been
there the entire time, and that's because they want to
have him around, like he's great for your team. And
then obviously none of that matters if you can't play.
And he continues to grow as a player, shooting, competing
one of the best winging offensive rebounders in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
With as much knowledge and experience that you have in
this league, do you feel responsibility to take a guy
like Jonathan Kaminga under your wing and you're like, I
just know he can be that much better? Do you
feel that responsibility? Were like, I want to let him
know this. I want to help him become that good.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
That's something that I rode that I try to really
take on this mentoring young guys. I'll never forget my
rookie year. One of our assistant coaches, his name is
Pete Myers. Pete told me two things that will always
I would always keep with me forever.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
He said.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Number one, Draymond, you get paid. If you ever fortunate
enough to get paid in this league, you get paid
for the next young guy to get paid.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So oftentimes you see like.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Guys like, oh man, that guy got this, I need
to do that or like, and it's like, no, actually, like,
if you think about the lifespan of the league, when
one gets paid, it only makes it better for the
next person, you know. And so he told me that,
and then he also would say to me, Draymond, you
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owe it to the game to lead a game in
a better place than it was when you found it.
And what that meant to me. The only way to
do that is to give the game back to the
younger guys so that they can then take that to
another level and give it to the next young guy.
And that's how we keep this thing going. That's how
we keep it growing, that's how we continue to feed
our families better than any of us could ever imagine
(34:55):
we would be able to do playing the game with basketball.
And so I think those are a couple of principles
that I stand by. And what's a absolute byproduct of
that is mentoring young guys because I think it's important
to lead a game in a better space than it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Was when I got for sure. And speaking of that
mentorship process, what I've loved to see and what's been
so fun for me is to follow accounts like sports Center,
next right, and to see the mini Lebron's right, and
the many Carlos Boozers, and the many Gilbert Arenas's and
all these guys where their sons are. You know, many
Carmelo Anthony's and like their sons are continuing to like
(35:33):
build on their legacy. And obviously everyone knows you have
a son. He's so adorable. But do you also I know,
like you said, you have feel responsibility to guide the
guys in the league, But have you ever found yourself
talking to some players sons about what they can do
to really make it to the next level.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I wouldn't necessarily say talking to other guys' sons about
making it to the next you know they have that.
I think one thing that I do get a lot
of pleasure out of is just talking to kids in
general about making it to the next level. But I think,
you know, it's it's it's kind of a phenomenon in
the NBA of seeing NBA players children coming to the
(36:15):
NBA and having success. But when when when I when
I look at that phenomenon that's largely driven by the
success of Stephan Clay because you see these these guys
at a young age with fathers, their their sons of
NBA players and you actually see them become superstars. See,
(36:38):
those are one of the few that you know, you've
seen guys come into the NBA.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Are a team literally full of Trace Jackson Davis's dad
played in the league, Andrew Wiggins. Obviously Stephan Clay is
there of course.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Champion and the Superstars as well. But I think like that,
like that's largely driven by a success of Stephan Clay
because it's like, oh, these guys dads were in the
NBA and you see the growth and like the progress
of those guys and so I think, you know, they
don't get enough credit for that, but that's that's a
(37:18):
check mark on your list, as is an All Star parents,
like cause it's changing NBA and now we're starting to
see more and more kids coming to the NBA. And
like for me, like you mentioned DJ, Like I would
love to see DJ playing the NBA. I think that's dope,
But I'm not I'm not the parent who's gonna push him, Like, Yo,
I want you to play basketball. I think you should
like if he wants to play basketball on Marlon right,
(37:40):
and I'm Marlin gonna help you on Marlin helping GUIDs you.
But I don't want I never want my son to think, Man,
my dad played basketball.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I gotta play basketball. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I like that. I like that view as we know,
Like the name of this show is Sloan Knows, right,
So Sloan knows your game and I do, Dre. I
you don't understand, Like every day after school whatever, I'm
always reading random stats, like I follow every single weird
(38:15):
basketball account to find like the most random facts about everyone.
When I watch Warriors games, I lay out jerseys, you know,
to manifest like I'm all in. So I do know
your game, but what I want to know is do
you So I'm gonna ask you some trivia about yourself
and I'd like, I'd like to know what you have
to say about it. I know that I just interviewed
DeAndre Jordan and he actually beat Chris Paul in this
(38:37):
game and texted him about it, and I think like
it got a little chippy, like everyone was very like,
so this is a thing, Like people are very interested
in this. So okay, I just want to let you
know that to like bring out the competitive signing you.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Okay, what's the scoring because I need to understand.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Okay, oh wow, Okay, so this is a prime example
of Draymond's competitiveness. Okay, so there is Okay, let's see
how many questions there are. There's six seven, Okay, there's
seven questions, and I am the greater. So like it
makes me really annoyed, right when like a teacher is like, oh,
like you got half credit on this math question but
not the other one, And I'm like, why did it
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really matter? Like where I put the multiplication sign right,
So I'm grading it, okay, And I like you, so
I may give you half credit. I may not. Let's see,
so you'll get full credit. But then also like some
of them are really hard or your answers could be close,
and I'll consider, but you can't bribe me, okay, okay,
Like I'm I'm like tough, Like you can't get through this,
so like I don't, I don't care what you have
(39:36):
to say. It's gonna be rough.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
And one last question, what was Deandre's score and what
was Chris pauls scor?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I think DeAndre got like like something like I don't
know the exact but like I need to start like
actually keeping count of this but it was like really bad,
like it was like two and like three and a half,
like it was not it was not impressed, is it really?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Let's see, Draymond, what was your high school GPA?
Speaker 4 (39:59):
My high school gpa? I finished high school with a
three point two GPA.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Three point four. Okay, already one question wrong, but I
I'll consider my scoring on that.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
It's four.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Tough.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Wow, I did finish with a three point four?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Are you proud of yourself knowing that that's better than
you thought?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
It is?
Speaker 4 (40:15):
It's actually better than I thought. But it's good because
I bombed my my fresh my second semester freshman year,
I had to go to like summer school to correct
a couple of grades.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
So it is good to know that I got it
back to the three point four.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Okay, I'll consider the scoring in my head if I'm
gonna give you because half credit on that. Next, out
of the sixty members of the twenty twelve NBA draft,
how many played in the NBA, And then, for a
bonus point, how many of them were All Stars?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, this is not easy. I'm a very this is
a tough test.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
How many actually played in the NBA?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yes, out of sixty.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
This is interesting because I can't recall if Royce White
ever played a regular season game.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
That's the thing, right, It's didn't not counting preseason, it's
counting an actual game.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
All right. So one.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
One through thirty all played, except I'm not certain if
Royce White, Royce White actually played a regular season game,
so I'm gonna put an ashtraight by him. But one
through thirty, one through thirty definitely played. Thirty one, thirty two,
thirty three, thirty four, thirty five, or truly thirty six,
(41:41):
thirty seven, thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I did not think you were like this, But okay,
forty one, ty Sean Taylor, what forty two?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Well, you can name every single per I can.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Still name them for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
That is crazy.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
We had quite a few guys from our draft actually play,
so how many.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Actually it's a high number.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Okay, it's like fifty eight out of the sixty guys.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
That was insane, though, that okay, you get you get
half credit for that. Like see, when the teacher wants
you to show work, that's exactly what you did.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
You asked it.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I love it. Are you going for the bonus question
of how many of them were All Stars.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
How many of them were All Stars? Let's see.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Number one pick was an All Star, Anthony Davis, Brad Bill, myself,
Andre Drummer. M. That's for Chris Middleton.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
The one that you're missing you spoke about earlier in
this episode.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I mean think that's the top team.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Is you're running out of times?
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Oh it's a time limit.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, that is a hint.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Dollar yeah, Okay, that was okay, you got so you've
revived yourself from that one you got. You got the
bonus point. You were drafted thirty fifth, who was drafted
thirty fourth? And who was drafted thirty six?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Thirty thirty six? Wait, thirty four let's see, So it
was thirty one was Jeff Taylor, thirty two was Tomy Sadaronsky. Uh,
thirty three and thirty four it's the same team, but
(43:48):
it's Jay Crowder or Bernard.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yes, Jay Crowder crack like.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
But they were thirty three and thirty four.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
I always flipped them too because it's the same team,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Like the same Yes, thirty six.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Is wow, I'm a bombness, but I think it's Quincy Ace.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
No, it is all okay, do you want one? More guests,
I do want one, Okay. His name is the name
of a city.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
His name is the name of a city, and it's
not Quincy Acy.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Like a city. We're an NBA team place.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
A city that where an NBA team.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
And recently had a first pick, like last year had
the first pick and draft that team. Ah, Orlando Johns correct,
I helped you out so much on that that I
am not giving you any points.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I think it's still impressive that I can land.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
It is so impressive. It is so impressive.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
I played with Orlando Johnson USA, though, so that's kind
of Orlando.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
This is sort of awkward. Raymond didn't remember. On February tenth,
twenty seventeen, you had ten steals in a game, the
sense steal set of Warriors record for most steals in
a game since nineteen seventy four? Who had that record previously?
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I don't know the answer. I'm gonna guess mante ellis
rick Berry?
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Oh the record the previous Ah, all right, I miss interpret.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
I was thinking, like, who's since? Like Rick Berry is
seventy four.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I mean, you do have to read the instructions better.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I didn't get to read though I just listen.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well, you have to tell us.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
You gotta listen, learn to listen, listen to learn. I've
messed that up.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
You were listed as six six today on like Google
or whatever. What was your listed height in your final
year at Michigan State?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Six seven?
Speaker 2 (45:43):
So did you shrink? Like what happened there?
Speaker 4 (45:45):
They start hating on me when you said I'm getting old.
They say you shrink when you get old?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Right, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I hope that that does not happen to me, considering
I'm five four, so if I shrink, I'd basically become
Like really, that would be really bad.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Problem is, like some someone in the NBA a few
years ago like took it up on themselves, like we
want to put everyone's real height, and like who tells.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Their real height?
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, everyone's lying.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
No one tells their real height.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
So yeah, you know what, I'm sixty, I'm gonna say
that I'm six feet It's fine. Ever, no one knows
that's a stretch.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Like you get a couple of inches, get a take like.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Actually i'm six six, Like six seven is a stretch,
but six seven school exactly six eighths a stretch?
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Six seven, I can get.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Away with Draymond. You have two more questions, and I'm
gonna put it upon us because I feel like we're
both bad at this. We got to go fast, Okay, Okay,
really fast? Okay, dreamond what is the total number of
technical fouls you have been assessed in your career?
Speaker 4 (46:40):
That's impossible to know, teacher, Can I get? Can I
give you a ball? Like that's a lot of student.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
You can give you a park figure.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Okay, let's see. I mean you're twelve now, so that
would be eleven years worth of text. I would saying.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Sixteen lash year. I would say I definitely ninety two.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
That is very generous. So it's actually one hundred and
sixty three. And it was one hundred and sixty three
two weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
That's so it may be one hundred sixty sixty three.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Wow, it's your goal two hundred.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I'll blow through that. I want sixty three.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
I mean you figure, I got four years, three years
left on this contract.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
You can average me out at about I won't. I
won't get to two hundred.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Okay for me, I will not get this is the
new media kindness.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
I will not You heard it here?
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Great?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Thank you so oh no, So that gives.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Me about thirty, like forty texts last in your career.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Who'll think about it?
Speaker 4 (48:01):
All right, God, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Okay, thirty one.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
You are my favorite Green? Okay, yeah, you're welcome. But
how many players in the NBA currently have the name Green?
And can you name them? Considering we're a little bit
of a time crunch, I'm going to tell you currently
it is five total? Can you name those? Five Greens?
Meaning yourself and four others?
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Myself?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Danny Green is not currently on an MBAs he was
a week ago.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Was a week ago. He is not currently now. I
am very update with my statistics as you can see. Yeah,
I told you this is not going to be easy.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Jamichael Green isn't anymore.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Nope, uh, Jalen Green correct, Josh Green from Dallas crracked.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
So that's what that's three me, Jalen Green, Josh Green.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
You're left with a player on Jalen Green's team, and
then a player who is just drafted out of Northern Iowa.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Jeff Green. And there's someone just drafted out of Northern You.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Just totally ripped that from me. You sounded so smart
when you said that You're like he was drafted out
of Northern Iowa, Like you knew that. I said that
one minute ago.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
But no, I don't know who that is drafted out
of Northern Yes to.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
The Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Oh that's the shooter.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Okay, his name I don't really know.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Is it Joe Green? Maybe? No?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
No, Okay, I'll give you a hint. It's like two letters,
but it's like a like a I don't know what
the word is, j R. Green or close. I'm just
gonna give it to you a J.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Green. All right. That's that's fair.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Remember when you said before this that you were going
to beat everyone. I don't think you got one question
completely right, but I got all of the all of
them partially credit. Okay, congratulations. I consider the scoring and
I will let everyone know at a later time. But
thank you very much Draymond for coming appreciated.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
These are tough questions. By the way, they are rapert fires.
They're usually easy.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
No, not on slow nose. It is not easy on
slow No. Thanks for listening to this episode of Slow
Notes with Draymond Green. You can get links to my
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hi, I'm Sloan and I know the NBA. Today's guest
needs no introduction. He's a four time NBA champion and
in all stuff, he's one of the best defenders in
the league, a successful podcaster, and part of the core
Golden State Warriors. We are live from Chase Center with
the one and only Draymond's Cream.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Dre.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm sixteen years old and you're thirty three, and I'm sorry.
I feel like I try to make you feel old
a lot, and you're not old. But in the league
of the NBA, I mean, like, you know, thirty three, now,
sixteen was a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You know absolutely, I remember sixteen years ago or seventeen
years ago. Would take me to see I remember that.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, good, because that was a lockdown. I'm about to
ask you a lot of questions about that. So at
sixteen years old, what were you like as a basketball player?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
At sixteen years old as a backasketball player is when
I first kind of started to come into my own.
I was kind of freshman I mean sophomore or junior year,
and my junior year season is when I really took off.
My freshman year, I played freshman basketball my sophomore year,
I was on varsity. I started every game on varsity,
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but I was a role player for sure, like I
kind of have my role. And I did that my
junior year, like the team became on and that we
won our first st AID championship. So that was really
my first experience of winning a school championship. Like I
lost in sixth grade, I lost in seventh grade. I'm lying.
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I did win in eighth grade, but we didn't have
in my city. We didn't have like a tournament, so
you have like twelve regular season games and the best
record won a championship. So it wasn't like you actually
had to go win a championship.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
And so that was my first experience sixteen of truly
winning a championship. You wanted like an AU tournament, but
like really winning a real championship.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
That's what I was doing at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's like you were manifesting your life in the future,
you know what I mean, Like all those shifts.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So speaking of AAU, I know a lot of the
guys that have interviewed have told me really cool stories
about when they were playing AAU. They were able to
play against other NBA players and create really special bonds
with these future guys that they were going to continue
to have a career with. Do you have any guys
like that that you've just been friends with since you
were really young.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I know I have a few guys that I've played
against since I was young. I was actually on Instagram
the other day Manny Harris, who played with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
He played with the Los Angeles Leakers for a short
amount of time. Manny Harris grew up in Detroit, Michigan,
and Manny I remember growing up like as a young kid,
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like fifth and sixth grade, seventh grade, We're coming from
saging On, small city. We go down, we play those
guys from Detroit, and like, you get a toe different
feel from who we play back at home, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And Manny was one of those players.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
He was absolutely incredible, and he used to destroy us
when we were younger, and then we played against each
other in the state championship of high school.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
He went to Michigan. I went to Michigan State, And
so I would say, if there.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Was one guy that I remember from that I remember
playing against from elementary on through college and even in
the NBA. That guy for me and who was like
motivation for me growing up because we couldn't He played
for the Cobras when we were growing up. We could
not beat them, and so it was always motivation for
me to try to beat him.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So I think I'd say the one guy.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
For me was man here, okay, and do you think
you know? I know we talked a little bit about
Michigan State, like did you come out of the woman
You were like, I'm going to go to Michigan State
like that, how did that go down?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So ironically, my aunt played at Michigan State. And I'm
born in nineteen ninety old. The fact that you think
nineteen ninety is old.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I was born in two thousand and seven, so you know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I remember two thousand and seven like it was yesterday.
I graduated high school in eight But the fact, like
I get laughed at by people for being born in
the nineties and I'm at the very beginning of the nineties,
and the fact that you think that it's old, it
is just mind bodying to me.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But Michigan State. My aunt went to Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I think in like ninety three, ninety two, ninety she
was there when Steve Smith was there, so maybe ninety
one ninety two somewhere in there, I would go down
like and we would go see her play. I had
been to my aunt's dorm, which in full circle moment
ended up being the dorm that I also lived in
when I got to Michigan State. But I used to
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be terrified as Party. Loved to Michigan State, loved the green.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And white, creepy, terrified of s party.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I go to these games. I was also the kid
that was terrified of Chuck E Cheese like, and so
I would go to these games see my aunt, and
I thought that was absolutely incredible. I would always say
then like I'm gonna go to Michigan State. I'm gonna
go to Michigan State. Then you start ninety eight, ninety nine,
two thousand, I am eight nine, ten years old and
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the Flintstones matteen, Clees, Morris Peterson, Charlie Bell, Antonio Smith,
Jason Richardson from Saginaw.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They're playing at Michigan State.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
They win a national championship in two thousand and so
for me growing up as a young kid, and I
remember I can always place Michigan State from when I
was three, four years old, and then to see them
at ten years old winning.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
The National Championship. I thought that was everything. Flint. Flint,
Michigan is twenty minutes away from sagan On.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Jason Richardson being from saganaw to watch those guys and
be like, Wow, they're on it. They're playing in the
National Championship, They're being Florida in the National che I
want to go to that school. And me and my
brother from that time it was like, yeah, we're gonna
go to Michigan State.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah on Michigan.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Though. You know what's funny, I this is gonna get
you going in the state of Michigan. You grow up,
you're you're a Michigan fan, or you're a Michigan State fan.
As I'd imagine in LA you're the U C, l
A or USC. Most people maybe not you Sloan because
you pick your own teams, like you didn't picked the
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Lakers and pick the Warriors, but you usually pick one
of those schools. And so for us, it's like all right, Michigan,
Michigan State. Michigan State is a no brainer. Like the
colors are better, Like the school is better, the coach
is better, the program is better, you know, like it's
time is though it's a hall of fame.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Nobody can stand that but I.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And then then, like I said, it was also something
that I could see though at a young age and say, oh,
those guys are like men, Like they come from a
similar place that I that I come from.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And so and then I'm not gonna lie. I like
teams that win.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, this is football, but like eleven and oh,
you know, like this.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Year, but like they were still in signs and you know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Like okay, so you're gonna okay, so you're a you're
a believer in the steeling.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I mean it's obvious clear as day, and everybody's like,
oh you know, they they still signs, everybody still.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But you can't be that egregious, like to place.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Someone on the other sideline of another team dressed up
as their coach.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Do we really want to talk about them being came.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Out that Michigan State did the same thing. You would
deny it though, right.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
No, Michigan State is going through their fair share of.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Ok so you're gonna allow them, Okay, So you're just you're.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Fair mich But I think you also have to be fair,
like you can't. You can't just kind of say, oh,
they accepted this, were sweeping it under rugg like you
still gotta be fair to people.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But that was I mean, that's that's some intense signs stealing.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's a little crazy, for sure, and it definitely does
not give a good message to anyone else out there. Like,
it's also a school, you know, like people go there
like if I was a Michigan student now, like the
football teams cheating, Like I don't know what's happening in
those classes.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You know, well, you know, this is also a school
that really prides themselves on trying to make us went
to Michigan State for like we're done.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, And you know.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's just I think it's pretty ironic that they're so
smart and they had caught like this, like.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Badly, like branhanded.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Real, it's a little ironic to those of us that
they try to they try to make feel less than
I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, I feel like you almost what's really cool about
you is that, in a way, you've been an underdog
for so long and you just continuously continuously prove people wrong, right,
And I'm curious being a second rounder does that Do
you think that that's shaped who you are now?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Do you do you remind yourself constantly like that many
teams passed up on me, and yet I was this good.
You know, I am this good for.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
A long time.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
For a long time, I will remind myself that because
to your point, I was the underdog. And you know
what I've tried to learn throughout my journey is I
was the underdog for a very long time. I'm no
longer the underdog, and I think I think it's very
important that you can identify those stages because the mentality
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that you have to have as an underdog. If you
have that same mentality and you're not the underdog, it's distasteful.
And so for me, I've always tried to and like,
don't get me wrong, it's hard to do because you
go so long with this mindset of I just need
to get it out the mud. I need to get
it anyway I can. And you go so long with
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this mindset and then you get to a space where
the world no longer view you that way. And that's
when it gets interesting, because when you're the underdog, the
world is rooting for you and they want to see
you do well. Everybody loves a good underdog, everybody loves
a good Cinderella story, and so it's all fine and
Danny the moment they no longer see you as the underdog,
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where now they say, oh, well, what I think of
him is this. I no longer view him or her
as this.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
This is where I placed him at.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And that's when it starts to get interesting because again,
those same things that you did as an underdog, now
that they no longer look at you that way, it's
not viewed totally different.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And so I think, for me.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
An interesting adjustment that I had to make, and I
must be honest, you still like it's a never ending thing,
like you never really get to the space of life.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I'm not the underdog.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I never do underdog things like there are still times
where you do those things because it was such a
part of you for so long, you know, And so
I think just identifying when you're no longer the underdog
is as important as having the underdog mentality when you
need it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And what advice do you think you would give sixteen
year old Dre to be like in that time when
I mean you said you played freshman basketball as a
freshman and then you were a role player your sophomore
year on varsity. But what would you tell that sixteen
year old kid, like, I'm a four time NBA champion, Like,
what do you think you would think?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Think? I think what I would tell that kid is
I would tell him the things that he need to
understand about the journey along the way, because you go
through so much on this journey, and some of the
things you go through with people, and some of the
things you have to go through alone.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And it's.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I think it's it's very it's very interesting because what
you end up realizing is so many people can't do it, Like,
so many people can't walk through those things alone or
walk through those things with somebody and the one, but
the but the very few. Like it's it's a reason
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it's only four hundred and fifty guys in NBA, like,
because the few that can go through those things, the
few that can come out on the other side of
that are the ones that you see and they make
it and you know the world knows them and you
know the world can appreciate their craft.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think there's one anomally to that, and that's Patrick
mccau because, like, you can't win three championships in like
your three years in the league and then just like
dip and then be like I did it, you know
what I mean, Like I really went through it, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
One percent.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But even that, like I think, like I love Pat
by the way, like Pat was my teammate, we won
two championships with one championship together, we won one championship together.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think you want too and then you want to
one here.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
One with the raptions, okay, but but Patrick.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Is an anomaly, and I think it's a little different feeling, right,
Like you're such a basketball fan, you'll remember that.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think I.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Loved Patrick McCaw. I was like ten years old and
I was like, that is the most beautiful man I've
ever seen at ten years old. Let him know, Like
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Uh, I think with Patrick, you didn't look at the
way the career ultimately ends up panning out. And I
think if there were a lot of things that Patrick
would change, I think, but there's also things that along
my journey that I was yeah, you know, and so
I just think, uh, and looking back at the sixteen
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year old and saying, what what that has to be?
Along the way, you just have to understand the steps
of the journey because it's it's it's brutal. There's times
where you want to quit, and I think it's it's okay.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
To fill those feelings, right, Like, we go through it.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And as a basketball player, you're taught as an athlete,
you're taught like, no, you just gotta keep going, keep going,
like get through it, keep going, and.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
That bils you out to be a certain type of way.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
But I think in going through it, you have to
understand that, like try not to ride the roller coaster
because it's and by the way, it's still a roller coaster.
Like I'm thirty three years old, I'm playing at the
highest level you can play.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
And it's still a roller coaster. You know.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
But as you get older, as you've been in it,
you learn like that, I can't ride.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
This roller coaster.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Like sometimes you experience the highest of highs and you
experience the lowest of lows, and to ride that wave
the entire time, it's impossible.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, it's a mental game too, one hundred.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
So that's what I would just tell the sixteen year
old men, is like, okay, great, there's four championships, there's
these things in college. There's these things in high school
in the conference. Don't ride away, don't like just do
not ride away?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, okay, So now I want to move on because
I've been so lucky. One of the privileges of my
life has been to get to know you. And I
think what I think is so special about you is
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the way that, even though it is so many you
are probably such a god right, so untouchable, we feel
like we know you right, Like you make your opinion known.
You make who you are known to everyone, which I
think is so special, especially as a kid, because you know,
I'm not going to name names, but there's people out
there where I admire them, but I don't know them,
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you know. And with you, I think that people really
understand who you are. People know your opinion, which is
so cool, Like you know, you really got it. You
have to use your voice, and so I know you.
I think the world knows you, but I want to
get to know Sloan knows Dre a little better. All right,
What was the most memorable play of your career?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
The most memorable play of my career, I would have
to say is as memorable as it is. I can't
recall the exact years, either twenty seventeen or eighteen, who
were playing against the Portland Trailblazers.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And Damian Liller gets the ball on the wing.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
After we turn the ball over, Clay turned the ball
over and Damian Lilla gets the tracks the ball down.
He gets the ball on the wing. If you know,
Damian lillar like, you better get out there. He's shooting it.
So I run out there and I take this shot
away and then no Avan is coming running down the court.
He hears no advante and I circle back around to
the rim and I just go vertical. And when I
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realized it, I'm like, oh man, I'm dunked on Because I.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Circled, I'm right under the rim.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
This dude got a full he has a full head
start coming downhill at me, and I gotta jump straight
up and go vertical. And I just jumped and went
vertical and I got the block. That to me, I
would say was the most play. Like I had a
great series that series, but that play, like I felt
like I locked their whole offense down myself, and that
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play was like a microcosmo.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That is what I always say. My dad and I
talk about this all the time where sometimes you'll I'll
watch your highlights and people don't understand that you stop
the whole team by yourself. Like that's a really hard
thing to understand because you're like, oh, You're like, oh no,
you know they just threw the wall out of bounce
and you're like no, no, no, no, no, dream on one hundred
percent force that, whether it was mental, whether it was physical,
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Like if you really watch those highlights every single time
something happens, like I swear your name, your fingerprint was
on there, it is true. And I also think that
is the same with Gary Payton the second big shout out,
that's my guy. I love him so much. And I
just noticed this. I mean, every time the other team
messes up, I'm like, it was either Gary or Drey.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I definitely appreciate it. And and reality is it's like,
in order to do what we do on the defensive end,
I always say people people don't value or approach the
defensive end the same way that they do the offensive
and the same way. You have to have spacing on
on offense. You have to have one defense, like and
there's so many little nuances to where if one guy
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isn't on the same page, it all falls down, you know.
And so I do understand the importance of like having
everybody on the same page and trying to lead that.
But as far as defense goes, like again, just like offense,
there's things that you want to get to as a defender,
there's things that you want to get to when you
understand what they're trying to get to. And I think
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for me as as just always trying to be a
step ahead of the play, knowing like, oh man, they
want to get there with if I can get to
that spot before they get there, it throws off the
entire time and.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Of their play.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
And that's and that's what I try to do and
and and focus on. And I try to cause the
same havoc for opposing offenses as great offensive players cause
for opposing defenses.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
For sure. And on the topic of defense, as obviously
the defensive player of the year, can you give me
two defenders currently in the NBA that are just extremely underrated?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Well A Sloan knows alone.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
And I feel like everyone always says I feel like
everyone always say this guy is underrated. And I think
the reason everyone always says he's underrated is like because
he doesn't have a Defensive Player of the Year. He
hasn't been on as many all defensive teams for as
good of a defender as he is. And it's Drew Holliday.
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Drew Holliday is like I was watching the game the
other day, Al Horford went out, Porzingis was out, like
not playing at night.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Al Horford goes out the game and like.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Boston's matchup, Like you can tell in their shoot around
in their game that the matchup is now Drew Holliday
and Joe l Embiid And yeah, they're throwing the double team.
But if you know anything about defense, Drew has to
keep embating a position for or the double team to
be able to get there.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, Drew is outsized by Joe.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
L and b by at least one hundred pounds, at
least at least six inches, probably more. And he's just
holding his.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Own Me and Drew and absolutely facts.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
And by the way, one of the like Joel is
an incredible player, like MVP. One of the most impressive
things about that is Joel's a dog. Joel will embarrass
you if he can. He will go right at you him.
It wasn't like he saw Drew and it was like
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I smell blood, And I think that is one of
the most incredible things, Like when it's no better feeling
as a defender, when you're like, say, I'm running up
and my guy's going to set a screen and the
guards like, nah, man, you get out of here, bring
that guy up, And as a defender, you just feel
accomplished because it's like, oh, he don't even want to
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face me right now. And so I think Drew is
one and the second one is an underrated defender. I
think the second one is Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Really okay. Also for the real ones out there also
a slow nose alum to like a certain extent. I
did like a cute little interview with him, but it
was like a minute but with the help of Dre,
I know Adie will be sitting in that chair one.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Day, absolutely. But ad Ad is a is. Ad can
switch onto a guard and keep a guard in front
of him if he needs to. He can play in
the drop and he's one of the most devastating players
playing in a.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Guarden, picking and rolling and drop.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
He's a versative defender, Like you can put ad in helpside,
and you put him in help side and he'll cover
the whole week side up. You put him in the action,
he can guard the action, no problem. So uh very
My second one would be Anthony.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Davis crazy that they were teammates, you know, like that
New Orleans team.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Is special, we beat them.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Well, I mean, you're more special. So one clip of
mine that went viral on TikTok was I was talking
to Drew and I asked him, I said, you know,
I also agree that I think Drew's a very underrated defender.
And I said, it's such a talented defender yourself. Who's
someone that you've guarded that probably the outside world doesn't
realize how difficult it is to guard them. And he said.
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Bobby Portois and all these people were like, why didn't
you say Steph Curry? And we were like, the question
is underrated, Like people need to listen to the context.
And I think, like you were saying earlier, like there's
four hundred and thirty guys plus in the NBA, Like
I mean, every kid has played basketball at one point
in their life, and four hundred and thirty around that
number guys make it to the league. These guys are special,
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even if they're not Steph Curry. They could drop sixty
on anyone's head that's not in the league, you know,
and like, who's a guy like that to you that
you're like, people don't understand, but he's good.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Every guy in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Okay, every guy.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Though, I always tell like, you know, people see guys
in the NBA and they're like, oh man, that guy
suck and to your points, like that guy that you
thinks up will destroy you so badly, Like you have
to like you just there's a certain level of player
that you have to be the player. Then yeah, Now,
don't get me wrong. I know you probably saw like
pg's podcast where PG and Tomorrow was talking about guys
(23:20):
in the NBA that suck. Now that's to an NBA level,
Like there are some guys in the NBA that you
don't quite feel should be here. But that doesn't mean
Joe Bloke can just beat them at basketball, Like, no,
they'll destroy Joe Blow. However, there's I always say that
there's guys like everyone has a guy or two in
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the league where when you play that guy, he causes
you fits like nobody tomorrow, but it's the guy that
no one would expect, Like I have a couple of
people and it just shows you how good they actually are.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
One was TODJ. Gibson. For me, TODJ. Gibson.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I played against Todge Gibson as a freshman in college.
We played against him and Demargar Rose and they were
at USC ron Lewis. They had enough Daniel Hackett. We
played them in the second round, I think the first
or second round in the NCAA tournament in Minneapolis, and
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Goran Suton got in foul trouble. Another one of our
big men got in foul trouble, and so I had
to go in the game and.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Guard Tashe Gibson.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
If you remember anything about Todge Gibson at USC, he
was a problem. And I'm garden TODJ. Gibson, and I
go in and I do an incredible job. All our
upper classmen is in foul trouble and I.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Caused fits for TODSH Gibson.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
And that was the end of Todge Gibson's career because
he didn't goes on and go to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I stay, I finish out my next three years of college.
He goes on to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
When I get to the NBA, I now have to
guard Taje Gibson. At this time, Todash Gibson's in Chicago,
and I remember vividly my second year Jermaine O'Neill, one
of my OG's on the team, and we're playing Chicago
and I'm trying to guard Tage Gibson and he hit
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me with an up and under boom, step through bucket,
shimmy shake bucket, and the game goes on. And now
the only way I can get on the court my
first year and a half was to stop somebody. And
I am like, I can now get a stop on
this dude. So I tell Jermaine O'Neill it is one
of the very few times in my career, really, the
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only one that I can really point to why I
actually got Yo. I need you to switch with me,
like I'm gonna take your match up. You gotta go go.
I cannot stop this guy.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
One of them was.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Toash Gibson, and then the other guy that no one
would ever guess, incredible player that give me fits. I
actually have the.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Honor of being a teammate with him.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Now, is it a slow nose alone?
Speaker 3 (26:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh, okay, but maybe he will be one day. Okay,
Dario sorrye wow, Okay, he is a silent killer.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
He would give me fits no matter if he was
at Philly, Minnesota, Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Okay. See, Dario Sarge every time I played against him
would give me a fit.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
And it's like if you just go and you tell
someone like they're like, yo, who's the guy in the
league like that you struggle with the guard? No one
would ever guess that I'd be like Dodge Gibson and
Dario Sarge.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
And that just goes to show you how good guys Arena.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Do you tell Dara.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
That I have not but he'll figure it out now.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But then, like you know, that's a really I guarantee
that that shoots up his self esteem a little bit.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Darrio's my guy. I love Dario.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
He's incredible teammates have but I don't like sharing my
weaknesses with people.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, well, I'm really glad to see this is the thing,
Like I get to bring this out of you, you know
what I mean. It's good to talk about your emotions.
So m hmm. Okay, So Draymond, when I first met you,
you talk to me a lot about positivity and how
the idea of what I do that differentiates me from
other people and you as well. Is the idea of
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speaking positively because a lot of what the NBA media
is is it's asking people, Oh, you know, who's a
player in the league that annoys you?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And like, what's the purpose of that question?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Like, yes, you can probably get a lot of likes
on that, but it's not I mean, at the end
of the day, who has that helped?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
You? Know?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
That?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That hasn't improved anyone's life really, And so I decided
that I wanted to, you know, create a segment where
instead of that, I basically asked those questions in just
a way, nicer way, okay, and instead of the player
in the league who annoys you the most? Who is
your favorite player? You know? Stuff like that. So I
want to I want to talk about that a little
bit with you, and I want to start off talking
about Clay and Seth the Splash bros. I mean, you
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guys have been through thick and thin together and the
world knows how incredible they are. But is there something
specific that we don't see behind the scenes that makes
both of them so uniquely special?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I think, I think something that people don't get to
see with Stephan Clay is how competitive they are. You know,
you don't win at the rate that we've won with
guys that aren't competitive. And you know, because they shoot
the ball the way they shoot the ball, because they
play with the flash that they play with. I've seen
so many teams and guys make the mistake of thinking, Oh,
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I'll just bully him, I'll just get physical with him,
and like.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
It'll be no problem.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And they run up against those guys and they quickly realize, like, ah,
what that.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Approach doesn't necessarily work to me?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
The most like two of the greatest shooters ever that
we've ever seen. In my book, the two greatest shooters
we've ever seen, their number one attribute, their number one
skill is not their shooting. Their number one skill is
their competitive nature. Wow, And that's something that doesn't get
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any credit. No one ever says. But Klay Thompson is
one of the fiercest competitors I've ever seen. No one
ever says Steph Curry is one of the most competitive
guys I've ever seen. Did you see him in this moment?
Did you see how he stood up in that moment?
No one ever talks about that because the shots so beautiful. Yeah,
but that's the reason behind the four championships. It is
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not the shot.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I love that. And now that we're moving on from
Stephan Clay, you know, they were people that people understand
why they're amazing. But can you tell us something incredible
about a young Warrior that you've been able to play
with in the past few years, maybe instead of sharing
something new like you shared Stephen Clay, something maybe that
we just haven't been able to see yet, but that
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we will see about a young guy and the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Is I think we've had quite a few young guys
over the last few years, but I can speak about
the ones that that we currently have. I think when
I look at the Warriors, the Warriors are in good hands.
When you look at young guys like BP, Brandon Potjemski,
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Trace Jackson Davis, like those are guys that are coming
to the NBA right now and they're ready to play
right now.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yes, And.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
That's how we were coming in to them. Like when
we came in, we were ready to play. It wasn't like, oh,
you need two years, you need three years to try
to figure like yeah, you still had to figure things
out for sure for the next two three years, but
you can put us in the game right away and
we be just fine. And those are the rookies that
we have right now, and I think they are incredible.
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The energy that they bring to the team absolutely amazing.
And I think, like BP, that kid is like a gamer.
You just put him in the game. He figured out.
And by the way, we realize that playing this summer
and like we're playing pickup and we're getting together for
like we got together for a little team mini camera
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and you're like, yo, no.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
This dude is like he's gonna play. And so I
can appreciate.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Those guys, and I don't think the world has gotten
a chance to really see how good those young guys
are and what they will be for this organization. You
got young guys like Jonathan Kaminga and Moses Moody. Kaminga
has no clue how good he is, yeah, And I
think that's so incredible because he believes he's good. It's
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like a weird thing. He doesn't have a clue of
how good he is. But he actually he's a confident kid,
so he believes he's good.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
It's not even that he doesn't have the right level
of confidence because he is as confident as they come. Ok,
but he doesn't know how good he is yet, because
he's still figuring it out right, Like he's still figuring
out Oh man, I got this.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Smaller guy on me.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I don't need to speed up and go faster him.
I need to slow down and just get him to
the spot I want to get to. Now, I can
just raise up over and make the game simple, you know,
more easy for myself. And so when I say Kaminga
doesn't like he has the confidence, but he doesn't know
how good he is, it's just because he hasn't even
really tapped into yet all of the things that he's
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capable of tapping into. That for someone who's been in
for twelve years, I see, Oh, he's going to get
to this and he'll figure that out.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
The game will slow down for him in this area.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
He'll do that. And absolutely special. Moses the most professional
guy I've ever been around. Next to Kavon Looney. When
you're talking about a young guy who coming in and
just gets it, gets how to work, gets how to
how to carry themselves. Moses is one of those special
people that like you look back into an organization thirteen
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years from now, and you're like, man, he's just been
there the entire time, and that's because they want to
have him around, like he's great for your team. And
then obviously none of that matters if you can't play.
And he continues to grow as a player, shooting, competing
one of the best winging offensive rebounders in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
With as much knowledge and experience that you have in
this league, do you feel responsibility to take a guy
like Jonathan Kaminga under your wing and you're like, I
just know he can be that much better? Do you
feel that responsibility? Were like, I want to let him
know this. I want to help him become that good.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
That's something that I rode that I try to really
take on this mentoring young guys. I'll never forget my
rookie year. One of our assistant coaches, his name is
Pete Myers. Pete told me two things that will always
I would always keep with me forever.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
He said.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Number one, Draymond, you get paid. If you ever fortunate
enough to get paid in this league, you get paid
for the next young guy to get paid.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So oftentimes you see like.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Guys like, oh man, that guy got this, I need
to do that or like, and it's like, no, actually, like,
if you think about the lifespan of the league, when
one gets paid, it only makes it better for the
next person, you know. And so he told me that,
and then he also would say to me, Draymond, you
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owe it to the game to lead a game in
a better place than it was when you found it.
And what that meant to me. The only way to
do that is to give the game back to the
younger guys so that they can then take that to
another level and give it to the next young guy.
And that's how we keep this thing going. That's how
we keep it growing, that's how we continue to feed
our families better than any of us could ever imagine
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we would be able to do playing the game with basketball.
And so I think those are a couple of principles
that I stand by. And what's a absolute byproduct of
that is mentoring young guys because I think it's important
to lead a game in a better space than it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Was when I got for sure. And speaking of that
mentorship process, what I've loved to see and what's been
so fun for me is to follow accounts like sports Center,
next right, and to see the mini Lebron's right, and
the many Carlos Boozers, and the many Gilbert Arenas's and
all these guys where their sons are. You know, many
Carmelo Anthony's and like their sons are continuing to like
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build on their legacy. And obviously everyone knows you have
a son. He's so adorable. But do you also I know,
like you said, you have feel responsibility to guide the
guys in the league, But have you ever found yourself
talking to some players sons about what they can do
to really make it to the next level.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I wouldn't necessarily say talking to other guys' sons about
making it to the next you know they have that.
I think one thing that I do get a lot
of pleasure out of is just talking to kids in
general about making it to the next level. But I think,
you know, it's it's it's kind of a phenomenon in
the NBA of seeing NBA players children coming to the
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NBA and having success. But when when when I when
I look at that phenomenon that's largely driven by the
success of Stephan Clay because you see these these guys
at a young age with fathers, their their sons of
NBA players and you actually see them become superstars. See,
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those are one of the few that you know, you've
seen guys come into the NBA.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Are a team literally full of Trace Jackson Davis's dad
played in the league, Andrew Wiggins. Obviously Stephan Clay is
there of course.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Champion and the Superstars as well. But I think like that,
like that's largely driven by a success of Stephan Clay
because it's like, oh, these guys dads were in the
NBA and you see the growth and like the progress
of those guys and so I think, you know, they
don't get enough credit for that, but that's that's a
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check mark on your list, as is an All Star parents,
like cause it's changing NBA and now we're starting to
see more and more kids coming to the NBA. And
like for me, like you mentioned DJ, Like I would
love to see DJ playing the NBA. I think that's dope,
But I'm not I'm not the parent who's gonna push him, Like, Yo,
I want you to play basketball. I think you should
like if he wants to play basketball on Marlon right,
(37:40):
and I'm Marlin gonna help you on Marlin helping GUIDs you.
But I don't want I never want my son to think, Man,
my dad played basketball.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I gotta play basketball. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I like that. I like that view as we know,
Like the name of this show is Sloan Knows, right,
So Sloan knows your game and I do, Dre. I
you don't understand, Like every day after school whatever, I'm
always reading random stats, like I follow every single weird
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basketball account to find like the most random facts about everyone.
When I watch Warriors games, I lay out jerseys, you know,
to manifest like I'm all in. So I do know
your game, but what I want to know is do
you So I'm gonna ask you some trivia about yourself
and I'd like, I'd like to know what you have
to say about it. I know that I just interviewed
DeAndre Jordan and he actually beat Chris Paul in this
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game and texted him about it, and I think like
it got a little chippy, like everyone was very like,
so this is a thing, Like people are very interested
in this. So okay, I just want to let you
know that to like bring out the competitive signing you.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Okay, what's the scoring because I need to understand.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Okay, oh wow, Okay, so this is a prime example
of Draymond's competitiveness. Okay, so there is Okay, let's see
how many questions there are. There's six seven, Okay, there's
seven questions, and I am the greater. So like it
makes me really annoyed, right when like a teacher is like, oh,
like you got half credit on this math question but
not the other one, And I'm like, why did it
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really matter? Like where I put the multiplication sign right,
So I'm grading it, okay, And I like you, so
I may give you half credit. I may not. Let's see,
so you'll get full credit. But then also like some
of them are really hard or your answers could be close,
and I'll consider, but you can't bribe me, okay, okay,
Like I'm I'm like tough, Like you can't get through this,
so like I don't, I don't care what you have
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to say. It's gonna be rough.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
And one last question, what was Deandre's score and what
was Chris pauls scor?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I think DeAndre got like like something like I don't
know the exact but like I need to start like
actually keeping count of this but it was like really bad,
like it was like two and like three and a half,
like it was not it was not impressed, is it really?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Let's see, Draymond, what was your high school GPA?
Speaker 4 (39:59):
My high school gpa? I finished high school with a
three point two GPA.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Three point four. Okay, already one question wrong, but I
I'll consider my scoring on that.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
It's four.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Tough.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Wow, I did finish with a three point four?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Are you proud of yourself knowing that that's better than
you thought?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
It is?
Speaker 4 (40:15):
It's actually better than I thought. But it's good because
I bombed my my fresh my second semester freshman year,
I had to go to like summer school to correct
a couple of grades.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
So it is good to know that I got it
back to the three point four.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Okay, I'll consider the scoring in my head if I'm
gonna give you because half credit on that. Next, out
of the sixty members of the twenty twelve NBA draft,
how many played in the NBA, And then, for a
bonus point, how many of them were All Stars?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, this is not easy. I'm a very this is
a tough test.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
How many actually played in the NBA?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yes, out of sixty.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
This is interesting because I can't recall if Royce White
ever played a regular season game.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
That's the thing, right, It's didn't not counting preseason, it's
counting an actual game.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
All right. So one.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
One through thirty all played, except I'm not certain if
Royce White, Royce White actually played a regular season game,
so I'm gonna put an ashtraight by him. But one
through thirty, one through thirty definitely played. Thirty one, thirty two,
thirty three, thirty four, thirty five, or truly thirty six,
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thirty seven, thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I did not think you were like this, But okay,
forty one, ty Sean Taylor, what forty two?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Well, you can name every single per I can.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Still name them for sure.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
That is crazy.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
We had quite a few guys from our draft actually play,
so how many.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Actually it's a high number.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Okay, it's like fifty eight out of the sixty guys.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
That was insane, though, that okay, you get you get
half credit for that. Like see, when the teacher wants
you to show work, that's exactly what you did.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
You asked it.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I love it. Are you going for the bonus question
of how many of them were All Stars.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
How many of them were All Stars? Let's see.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Number one pick was an All Star, Anthony Davis, Brad Bill, myself,
Andre Drummer. M. That's for Chris Middleton.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
The one that you're missing you spoke about earlier in
this episode.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I mean think that's the top team.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Is you're running out of times?
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Oh it's a time limit.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, that is a hint.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Dollar yeah, Okay, that was okay, you got so you've
revived yourself from that one you got. You got the
bonus point. You were drafted thirty fifth, who was drafted
thirty fourth? And who was drafted thirty six?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Thirty thirty six? Wait, thirty four let's see, So it
was thirty one was Jeff Taylor, thirty two was Tomy Sadaronsky. Uh,
thirty three and thirty four it's the same team, but
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it's Jay Crowder or Bernard.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yes, Jay Crowder crack like.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
But they were thirty three and thirty four.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
I always flipped them too because it's the same team,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Like the same Yes, thirty six.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Is wow, I'm a bombness, but I think it's Quincy Ace.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
No, it is all okay, do you want one? More guests,
I do want one, Okay. His name is the name
of a city.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
His name is the name of a city, and it's
not Quincy Acy.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Like a city. We're an NBA team place.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
A city that where an NBA team.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
And recently had a first pick, like last year had
the first pick and draft that team. Ah, Orlando Johns correct,
I helped you out so much on that that I
am not giving you any points.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I think it's still impressive that I can land.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
It is so impressive. It is so impressive.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
I played with Orlando Johnson USA, though, so that's kind
of Orlando.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
This is sort of awkward. Raymond didn't remember. On February tenth,
twenty seventeen, you had ten steals in a game, the
sense steal set of Warriors record for most steals in
a game since nineteen seventy four? Who had that record previously?
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I don't know the answer. I'm gonna guess mante ellis
rick Berry?
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Oh the record the previous Ah, all right, I miss interpret.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
I was thinking, like, who's since? Like Rick Berry is
seventy four.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I mean, you do have to read the instructions better.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
I didn't get to read though I just listen.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well, you have to tell us.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
You gotta listen, learn to listen, listen to learn. I've
messed that up.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
You were listed as six six today on like Google
or whatever. What was your listed height in your final
year at Michigan State?
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Six seven?
Speaker 2 (45:43):
So did you shrink? Like what happened there?
Speaker 4 (45:45):
They start hating on me when you said I'm getting old.
They say you shrink when you get old?
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Right, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I hope that that does not happen to me, considering
I'm five four, so if I shrink, I'd basically become
Like really, that would be really bad.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Problem is, like some someone in the NBA a few
years ago like took it up on themselves, like we
want to put everyone's real height, and like who tells.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Their real height?
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, everyone's lying.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
No one tells their real height.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
So yeah, you know what, I'm sixty, I'm gonna say
that I'm six feet It's fine. Ever, no one knows
that's a stretch.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Like you get a couple of inches, get a take like.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Actually i'm six six, Like six seven is a stretch,
but six seven school exactly six eighths a stretch?
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Six seven, I can get.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Away with Draymond. You have two more questions, and I'm
gonna put it upon us because I feel like we're
both bad at this. We got to go fast, Okay, Okay,
really fast? Okay, dreamond what is the total number of
technical fouls you have been assessed in your career?
Speaker 4 (46:40):
That's impossible to know, teacher, Can I get? Can I
give you a ball? Like that's a lot of student.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
You can give you a park figure.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Okay, let's see. I mean you're twelve now, so that
would be eleven years worth of text. I would saying.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Sixteen lash year. I would say I definitely ninety two.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
That is very generous. So it's actually one hundred and
sixty three. And it was one hundred and sixty three
two weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
That's so it may be one hundred sixty sixty three.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Wow, it's your goal two hundred.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I'll blow through that. I want sixty three.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
I mean you figure, I got four years, three years
left on this contract.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
You can average me out at about I won't. I
won't get to two hundred.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Okay for me, I will not get this is the
new media kindness.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
I will not You heard it here?
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Great?
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Thank you so oh no, So that gives.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Me about thirty, like forty texts last in your career.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Who'll think about it?
Speaker 4 (48:01):
All right, God, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Okay, thirty one.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
You are my favorite Green? Okay, yeah, you're welcome. But
how many players in the NBA currently have the name Green?
And can you name them? Considering we're a little bit
of a time crunch, I'm going to tell you currently
it is five total? Can you name those? Five Greens?
Meaning yourself and four others?
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Myself?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Danny Green is not currently on an MBAs he was
a week ago.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Was a week ago. He is not currently now. I
am very update with my statistics as you can see. Yeah,
I told you this is not going to be easy.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Jamichael Green isn't anymore.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
Nope, uh, Jalen Green correct, Josh Green from Dallas crracked.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
So that's what that's three me, Jalen Green, Josh Green.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
You're left with a player on Jalen Green's team, and
then a player who is just drafted out of Northern Iowa.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Jeff Green. And there's someone just drafted out of Northern You.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Just totally ripped that from me. You sounded so smart
when you said that You're like he was drafted out
of Northern Iowa, Like you knew that. I said that
one minute ago.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
But no, I don't know who that is drafted out
of Northern Yes to.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
The Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Oh that's the shooter.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Okay, his name I don't really know.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Is it Joe Green? Maybe? No?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
No, Okay, I'll give you a hint. It's like two letters,
but it's like a like a I don't know what
the word is, j R. Green or close. I'm just
gonna give it to you a J.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Green. All right. That's that's fair.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Remember when you said before this that you were going
to beat everyone. I don't think you got one question
completely right, but I got all of the all of
them partially credit. Okay, congratulations. I consider the scoring and
I will let everyone know at a later time. But
thank you very much Draymond for coming appreciated.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
These are tough questions. By the way, they are rapert fires.
They're usually easy.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
No, not on slow nose. It is not easy on
slow No. Thanks for listening to this episode of Slow
Notes with Draymond Green. You can get links to my
socials and see some fun behind the scenes action from
Chase Center in the show notes, or just search slow
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