Snaps - Is Jayden Daniels a lock as the #2 QB or will Drake Maye take the spot?

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a couple of days away from the NFL Draft, and
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Please like the show?

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Uh chance, Babin Stride for great shows daily, but don't
promise exactly. So I've always lived my life under promise
and over deliver right, set expectations low, and then people
are like, oh shit, actually look at this guy, he's
all right. Uh so it goes all right. So today
topics we're gonna explore is Jadeen Daniels trying to take

(04:07):
his way out of Washington. Who is the best wide
receiver in the draft? And I think we have an
interesting twist there. Why no running backs will go in
the top two rounds? How many quarterbacks will go in
the first round, biggest bus potential savist player in the draft,
and maybe some others if we have time for them. Aaron,

(04:28):
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Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay, but I have a batch of episodes that should
be going up today. I'm not on.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
No, you're just frozen in with your mouth open. Audience.
I'm still here, I can still hear you, but you're just.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Like my computer is decided to tell me that it
is no display, that's an element screens going black. I mean,
should I just do yep?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
You should probably restart so running take te Pop off
until he can figure out what's going on. Let's jump
into it, and the first topic, obviously is the quarterback position.
This is something that obviously we love t pop stots
and we'll get it for him, but kind of runs
into my area of expertise. Will like to call it.
So projected top three quarterbacks will go one, two, three

(05:46):
in the NFL draft here in a couple of nights.
I think it's gonna be Caleb one, jade In two,
and then Drake May three. Uh. You ask a lot
of people that some people say have it very differently.
Some people have Jaden going one, Caleb going to Drake three.
Some people obviously have Caleb one, Drake two, Jaden three,
which I think is probably the third of all the

(06:09):
scenarios that could happen. I'll start with this, would I
be surprised if if Jaden went one? And I wouldn't
I honestly, wouldn't I think if you want to obviously
base it off one year last year of how we're
going to draft the guys. Jaden had the far superior season.

(06:30):
He was a Heisman Trophy winner. He was magnificent throwing
the football down the field. He was electric running the football.
There's a lot of traits that you look at Jaden
Daniels compared to Caleb Wims, you say, you know what,
I really like that, And if you're an NFL team
look at them and saying I like Jaden's speed, I
like the athleticism, I like the deep ball accuracy, then

(06:52):
maybe Jaden is your guy. And I know there's a
lot of people and I've hit on this before and
I'm not trying to make this as an eu of
why not the draft Jaden first and overall, but they say,
better offensive line, better weapons, all these things played into
his progression a year ago from seeing how he matured
as a quarterback. I'll go to what I've said, you

(07:13):
know about Jayden when it comes to what I saw
spring practice a year ago, he just got better as
a quarterback. And there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, we
can say it's the offense line. Yeah, we can say
it's ede receiving play and you're gonna see two you know,
receivers drafted LSU, possibly in the first round. You know,
multiple in the top two or three runs the NFL drafting.
You can say all that, But he just got better.

(07:35):
He became a better passing quarterback from his first year
at LSU to a second year. That coaching staff did
wonders of putting him in situations and forcing him to
get more comfortable throwing the daggers, the corners, the go balls,
the post route. So can he make all the NFL throws? Yes?

(07:55):
Can he do it at a very high level, not
just mediocre of like, okay, you put him in a
in a combine situation verse all thirty two starting quorpback NFL, Like,
where would he end up? I think he'd be in
the top half. I think he is exceptional arm strength.
I think he throws with tremendous anticipation. I think he
has incredible deep ball accuracy in touch. So he is

(08:18):
really good, if not elite, had a lot of things
throwing the football, and then you throw in the fact
that he is four to four caliber electric running the
football obviously has to take care of himself a little
bit better when it comes to not just getting his
block knocked off when he runs the football. But if
he went one, if there was this big surprise and

(08:38):
oh lot, it's not Kayleb Williams going one, it's Jaden Daniels,
I would be a tiny bit surprised. But I would
say this makes sense when you look at the game
today and what he's done and what he's put on tape,
I'd be perfectly creportable saying Jade and Daniels number one
quarterback in the NFL draft. Do I think that's going
to happen? No, t Bob, I don't think Jayden goes one,

(09:00):
But I also want to be surprised if if Chicago
does get them.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
All right, so I don't know what the hell that was.
Everything decided to shut down, figures crossed it and happen again. Okay,
so yeah, Jayden's not gonna go number one. He'll probably
go number two to the Washington Commanders. However, on the
final day of visit day, Washington decided to host not
just Jayden Daniels, but all the top four quarterbacks, and

(09:27):
the reports coming out of it is that Jaden daniels
camp was none too happy. In fact, like Mike Florio
had a tweet criticizing the commanders are doing this, about
how it's weird, like why wouldn't you want to spend
more time with the one guy that you're playing on drafting,
And Jaden daniels agent was out here liking those tweets.
He liked a couple other ones critical of the Commanders

(09:48):
as well, and so it does beg the question is
Jaden Daniels trying to force his way out of Washington?
And to be fair, after the story started to kind
of gain legs, Jaden went on Nightcap with UNC and
Ochu and and he and and he actually said that,

(10:11):
look he has he's no problem with Washington. They got
some dogs and got some growl weapons, He said all
the right things. Still there are persisting rumors that his
camp would not want to land in while she did.
And I kind of understand it, right, uh, because so
often and really this is how I almost end up
basing all of my draft coverage is less on breaking

(10:32):
down the player and and almost more especially in this
first round, right, more on okay, where will they land?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Because if you land in Chicago, I mean, there are
red flags. They've been very bad, but but they seem
to have good weapons.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
They Chicago had like a legit quarterback.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean they never had one, they exactly ever ever.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I mean, honestly, the best position is going reach to
New England. You know, you have an owner and Robert Kraft,
who has you know, as obviously one championships. I know
it's going to be a new head coach this year,
but the resources are at least there, you know. And
I think that's a big thing too, you know, for
me being a few NFL teams and talking with buddies
on the NFL teams too. There is a difference of

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which NFL owner just likes the thought of being an
NF owner and which NFL owner actually wants to put
in money and resources to give those players an opportunity
to win. And of the three, New England's best by
far the best location.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
See so that's kind of interesting because I don't know
that I agree necessary. Now. Look, I think again, where.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Where would you want to end up?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I think Chicago, Washington, Minnesota. I think Minnesota right now
is the best landing spot.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
But I don't want to jump.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Uh well, no, I mean sorry minute, I'm this is
assuming Minnesota is going to trade up to five, probably
moving to Chargers somewhere around there.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Right, that's the top three right now, Chicago, Washington, New England.
Where did you want to go if you're.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
A quarterbab so again, so we are on the same
page there, right, That's what kind of kick this all off.
In my head was thinking, like, I mean, Washington feels
like the worst ops, like at least in Chicago. Yes,
you've never had quarterbacks sets there, but they have been
a very successful franchise and they are committed, super committed

(12:21):
to trying to be good and figuring it out. They
seem to be making a ton of moves to promote
the quarterback position or whatever. This doesn't work yet quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And within two or three years the past two picks.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, but I mean they they didn't hit their guys.
But I mean, but then the other choice is the
other choice is like Washington I would think is traditionally
the absolute worst, because that's a joke of a franchise.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
New ownership, though at least, I mean, it's better than
it was when say RG three got drafted.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
So I agree because they got new ownership. Dan Snyders
out of there, and although I feel like Washington should
be worse, they do have the best weapons out of
anybody with Terry mclaur in a company. And that's the
problem with New England is like I believe in New
England as a franchise and I'm even more excited by
Geron Mayo being the head coach here than I am
Dan Quinn at Washington. But where's the roster for New

(13:17):
England right now? Like that? That That's what I'm wondering,
because it feels like Chicago and Washington would both have
better weapons to set you up as a rookie quarterback
than would Uh than would New England.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
You know what's crazy is is under the old regime
in New England. I mean it was, it was. It's
a grind. I mean Tom Brady said it before. Every
every every player from Gronk Edelman talked about, you know
what what their days were like and and listen, being
part of the NFL, it's it's a clamors lifestyle. But
it should be difficult if you want to win championships.
Just like anything in life, you got to put the

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work in. And Belichick really made sure that those guys
were in early stayed there. Like there are some coaches
that aren't like that and on that are a little
bit you know, more lenient with your time and allowing
coaches to spend what we're time with their kids. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
it's like but it's a grind, like everyone knew, Like
like New England almost felt like being at say in
Alabama or a Georgia where it was football, football, football, football,

(14:15):
and that was your life, and that for some people
had to turn off. So I do wonder if if
now and I'm saying, like it's obviously going to be
like easy Street in New England when it comes to
being an NFL player, but if it's not as grueling
as it was previously, could this make it a little
bit more attractive to possibly get better skill to help

(14:37):
a quarterback mature. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Look, I I again, it's a tough thing because franchise wise,
as an organization, no one's had more success than New
England has franchise rise. Chicago's had cess and in fact,
and even in terms of recent success, now, Chicago's had
a bad few years here, but even you want to
look at the last twenty years, Washington is not even

(15:03):
close to these other two. But the more I kind
of talk this out, I mean, with the new ownership
with Terry McLaurin, with Cliff Kingsbury being the OC, like
maybe the comedy landing spot's a bit better than I think,
so you would take New England overall.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
What did Cliff do with Murray and in in Arizona?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I think that's as much of a Kyler Murray problem
as it is.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I guess a little bit I have heard. I'm just
Cliff's track record in the NFL isn't anything beautiful to
look at? And hell his I know his offenses were
great in college football, but it's not like he was
winning a lot of games either. Like, are we putting
too much on the fact that it's Cliff Kingsbury and
we like the name and we forget because you're the
biggest track record person of them all, Like, if there's

(15:48):
any other ones, look at the nitty gritty, you're the
one that's always saying, like, what have they done? What
have they do? What is Cliff Kingsbury done?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well? That would get me excited, But he's because he's
in o C. He's not a head coach. He doesn't
I have a head coaching resume that you should write
home about. But his offense, the resumes remains good. Like
Kyler was putting up numbers, they just collapsed at the
end of every season. And in terms of Kyler Murray,
I have a little bit of insight there. I got
a little Arizona connection, and I basically heard that everything

(16:17):
you kind of think about Kyler Murray being a little like,
you know, maybe a little nose in the air, not
really one of the boys. Not really. I've heard that's
basically true. And so no, I I God, this seems
crazy because my entire idea at first was that Jaden
was trying to get out of Washington and get into

(16:37):
New England. And I know Mayo loves him. I know
he'd really probably want to go to the Raiders. That's
not going to happen. But I don't know, Man, now
that we've talked it out with me, you and chat,
I'm I'm kind of feel like maybe Washington were the
most well, maybe it's actually the place to have the
most immediate success.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think it was Chicago, Sam Howell last year or
through I thought you said New England. You still go
in Chicago, New England.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
No, I would say maybe for long term success, you
know that. I think there's a bet there's more stability
in my mind in New England and listen, we'll find
out with a new head coach. But like I think
immediate success, you know, you kind of pop off year one.
I think at least Chicago's giving it a damn good
opportunity with the weapons they brought in. Yeah, I like
I would think if you walk into a situation that,

(17:23):
like what is Jaden used to? Jaden's used to elite
receiving plan on the outside and a really good offensive line,
And I really don't know like the dynamics of Chicago's
offensive line, but I do know they have great weapons
on the outside. Like there was a conscious effort to say,
we're not going to screw up another quarterback. We're not
going to go three straight quarterbacks that we can't turn
into a legit ten plus year franchise guy. Where have

(17:47):
we made mistakes in the past, Well, we have an
inconsistency on the outside, so we're we're going to make
sure we have the weapons around our QB for him
to jump in and have success year one. So like
I could see. You know, Caleb, if he does go
one into Chicago having success year one, but does that
translate to a ten year career, you know at that

(18:07):
same place. I think New England you may have that
little bit more of that security there.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I think in Chicago could though. I mean I have
view Chicago and New England not wholly dissimilar. It's just
that one hit on Tom Brady and one didn't. I mean,
Chicago found their way to super Bowls with Rex Grossman
and to threaten super Bowls with like a pretty good
Jay Cutler. I mean, they've made playoffs with awful quarterback plays,

(18:33):
so all of a sudden, if you give them good
quarterback play, like Chicago seems like they kind of have
everything else you out. But let's take Chicago out of it,
because Caleb Williams is going one overall, right, Like that's
how you started this whole thing.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I think he is. No I did start off, you know,
there is I do think that there's a lot of
not a lot of momentum, but there's a decent amount
of discussion around Jaden going one. And I mean, frankly,
would you be surprised like I started off when you
were kind of figuring out your thing. I wouldn't be surprised.
I think there's a lot of really good elite traits
for Jayden where most drafts he would be number one overall.

(19:03):
So if the Bears say, like we want the guy
that's more athletic and with the guy that runs a
four to four, the guy that can push the ball
verrkeally down the field, Jayden checks off all those boxes
on tape. I do I think it's gonna happen. No,
But would I be surprised if all of a sudden
we hear, you know, Thursday night, you know the Chicago
Bears like Jaden Daniels. No, I think there's a fifteen

(19:27):
percent chance it happens.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Okay, so then let's take him out of it because
fifteen is basically none. So simple choice Washington, New England,
which is a better landing spot to be a rookie
quarterback because we'll get into biggest busts. And again, the
biggest bust will be a quarterback because it has to be.
They have the most pressure on them, they can most
easily affect the game. They're most thrust into the line

(19:51):
of fire where everybody can see like it's just always
going to be a quarterback because of how the game
of football works, and so situation means everything. You're Air Murray,
you're trying to make the NFL. Where would you want
to land Thursday night? Between those two two?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Probably New England.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
That seems crazy to me when you have too Han
Dottson and Terry McLaurin in Washington and Cliff Kingsbury. I
don't think I can agree. And you know it's funny.
I think I was actually with you there before I
started this conversation. But now that we've talked it out
and I've thought about with chat and everything, I've changed
my mind, and I actually think Washington is the better
landing spot, especially now that Dan Snyder's gone.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Nope, I'm new with New England. I'm the team that's
won more Super Bowls than anyone else.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, don't don't do that bullshit. Tom Brady won to
bro when it happened. When Tom Brady left New England,
he went straight in one another super Where would you put?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
What did you put? A craft and n F owners, I.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Think it's impossible to say. I mean, he's out here,
he's out here spiking Bill Belichick deals because he's salty
about how things ended with him, Like, I don't know, man,
I don't, I don't. I don't think it's I don't
think it's like one hundred percent clear how good craft is, Like,
you gotta do it with multiple different regimes, You gotta

(21:16):
do it with multiple different quarterbacks. If you want me
to feel that, you're like gonna be better than any
other owner that would have been with Tom Brady. I mean,
did the Bucks owner suddenly become a lot better?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
It still did it over multiple decades.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
This is I'm not saying Bob Kraft is nothing. But
I'm also not going to give this current New England team,
Like I'll give the Bears more credit for what they
did finding wins with all this shitty quarterback play over
twenty years than what New England did finding wins with
the best player maybe in all of sports, like all
of American sports for sure. So uh no, give me

(21:56):
washing it actually, but it doesn't matter because I think
whoever lands a minutes is actually going to be set.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Up best by far by far whoever lands up in Minnesota,
And I think it's gonna be JJ you know, so.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Just like brock perty right, you Land on a really
good team. And yeah, I'm not saying he's gonna do
it Brock Party does, but I'm saying, like, yes, Party
is really good in his own right. Do not get
that twisted. But he also landed in the best possible
spot in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
But I do. I do worry though that Like we
say that, but JJ's probably the worst person to be
put in a position where he has to start early on.
And I think that's what you may be in the
best situation, but I mean, he damn he needs it
though too, So like I don't care if you are
in a perfect situation or not, there's still a major
jump for being a college quarterback to an NFL quarterback,

(22:45):
And there's an even bigger jump when you had the
season that you had, or the seasons you've had at
Michigan where you weren't asked to be the guy. At
least the other quarterbacks had to put that burden on
their backs to go out there and be the guy
week in a week, Like Caleb had to be super Man,
Jaden had to be superman, Drake had to be superman.
JJ did not. And I don't care how good of

(23:07):
an organization or team you're on if you don't know
how to handle that burn. I'm not saying he doesn't
know how to do it, but we don't know if
he can or not. We have no idea. I have
no idea. If JJ McCarthy can't consistently shoulder the burden
of being QB one in the NFL, and then you
would say that about all the guys. At least I've
seen more of them having to be once again, that's superman,

(23:30):
at least at the college ranks to build your team
the victories.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, then let's skip around in our document here. So
you think JJ McCarthy is the biggest bus potential of
anybody in the first round.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Unless, unless, unless you see Bo Nix go in the
first round, which I don't think Bo goes in the
first round. I don't think Bo goes in the first round,
respect does sneak his way into the first round, then

(24:04):
I would say Bo has the best chance to be
a flop. If it's not Bo, I'm honestly gonna go Drake,
I think.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I I I even landing in your spot in New England.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, even landing in my spot in New England. I
like JJ. I think if you give JJ the time
he needs.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, timeout,
time out, because now I'm confused. Is JJ your biggest
bust or do you like JJ, which is like JJ? Okay,
So so you're not because that's when you started this,
you said JJ's biggest bus unless Bo Nicks gets in.
But now you're actually biggest bus is Drake May. I
want to say, Drake, okay, okay, even going to your

(24:48):
New England Patriots that you just talked about Bob Craft.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
And all that Bob Craft and all that.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yes, okay, so Drake May the biggest bus spicule, I
agree with you that it's going to be a quarterback.
I would maybe leaned towards j J for the reason
you said, except that I think he's gonna land in
a great situation. I almost arrive at May by default

(25:14):
because I don't love the setting in New England and
he has maybe the most question marks out of the
big three coming into the draft. So that would be
my answer as well, unless the Giants drafted quarterback. To
be painfully clear, if the New York Giants drafted quarterback,
that guy's going to be the biggest bust, because that
is a disaster, Zach.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Have you seen Patrick Mahomes play quarterback in the NFL?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't think that. And
again that's just a cop. That's not to say that
that's who he is. But like, no, no, the one
thing about Caleb is, and you'll hear like I've heard
like a lot of like like Jase Daniel and others
talking about this, is like he was so good in college.
At times it almost looked like he got bored and
he was just constantly trying to push the envelope. He
just has to learn to maybe a reeling in a

(26:00):
little bit in the NFL if he wants to achieve
the consistency.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Well, I talked about that with Jordan Palmer as well,
you know when he came on the show, and that's
something that he brought up a little bit too, was
you you can be in an offense in a situation
where the mentality is, you know, take the deep shot,
take the deep shot. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
hit the big ball because you know, we don't have
the team that can just dink and dunk. Where I mean,

(26:26):
if you watch Patrick and you watch the NFL, I
mean that is the majority of the offense just take
complete sit Yeah. Yeah, So it is a it is
a rewiring of your mindset. And I think I've said
this on this show before. I mean, the biggest thing
that really screwed me in the NFL was like I
didn't rewire my brain enough. You know, my third year,
I was trying to go in preseason throw for three
hundred yards and three touchdowns in five series instead of

(26:49):
just taking the checkdowns. And that's what Coach Reed told me.
He's like, dude, like, if you just would have done
what you did in practice in the game, you would
still be on the roster. Instead, you got greedy and
you started to take you shot after shot for sh
like and and and and and then that's something for
all these guys. That's Caleb Patselona do that Jaden with
all the success. We love the success of the deep ball,
but these NFL defenses are they're they're bigger, they're faster,

(27:13):
they're more complex. At the end of the day, man,
it's all about taking completions.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's actually the thing that I was most impressed with
watching every throw from arch Man in the spring game
is you know a lot of times Aaron. We say
take what the defense is giving you, and we use
that as like, uh, a kind of code word to
say just like check it out and check it out.
But he seemed to literally take what the defense was
giving him, which meant checked down some times, sometimes the intermediate,

(27:39):
sometimes it was the deep ball.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
But what Carson did last year? To you remember all
the Georgia fans are pissed off with Carson Beck. Yeah,
you know, because all he was doing was just dinking
and duncan go watch Aaron Rodgers tape. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers
is one of the best, if not the best of
all time of of knowing resnap post snap, immediately eliminate one,

(28:04):
one and two and get to three. Hey, that linebacker
got out of there. Like, why take three hitches to
find my checkdown? If I know that number one is
not gonna be open, let me just find it right now.
Take the completion move down.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Alvo Marswan And if checkdowns are what matter, most bow
knicks might have the highest ceiling. The problem with a
bow Knicks is checkdowns.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
This was like swing routes.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Well well, also though, the problem there is like if
I'm playing bow Knicks, I'm gonna make him prove that
he can beat me deep, right, Like I'm going to
play shallow, I'm gonna bring pressure, I'm gonna go man,
and I'm gonna try to make him prove that he
can consistently put it over the top. And then if
he could do that, well, then I'll show respect for it. Ye.
But like that, that's the difference. You try to do
that on Jay Daniels. We know he can go deep.

(28:44):
We know Kill Williams go deep. We know Drake May's
got a rocket arm. Uh even JJ McCarthy has a
good arm, even if we didn't see it quite as
much as those others. Uh shit, we know Michael Pennocks can.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
But so Aerin, you kind of on something interesting, which
is we asked another question here in our show Rundown
why running backs won't get drafted in the top two
rounds this year. And one of the reasons why, and
we all kind of know this, but the NFL meta
has shifted and running back just doesn't matter as much.
And it's because well in this one reason, I have

(29:21):
others as well, But the thing is, it's like a
running back can't be a game breaker because the position
of running back can't keep up with quarterback. Like, if
I have a team with the great running back, going
to get a team great quarterback. The team of the
great quarterbacks going to win the majority of the time.
And so why would I over commit resources to featuring

(29:42):
a running back when it's gonna take away from the
most important position in football and instead of the running ball.
If I have a great quarterback who nowadays completes sixty
five to seventy percent of his passes and takes completions,
well that's my running game right there. The six yards,
the four yards, the five yards, And so it becomes
a situation like if you have a great quarterback, you

(30:05):
have to feature him, not the running back. So the position,
regardless of the talent, the position is way down. And
then they're hit with the dual unfortunate consequence. Where also
running backs, the top and the bottom just aren't that
different from one another. The top quarterback and the bottom
quarterback might as well be a fucking vast ocean of

(30:28):
difference and overwhelming difference. Whereas I mean, look at last
year's draft, Bjeon Robinson and Jamier Gibbs go in the
first round and they were okay, but Devon Ah Chain,
I mean Devon Ah Chang had more hundred yard games
and nearly had his good overall, and he would in
this sixth.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Last year's draft costs a little bit different because I
do like those two running backs long term.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I think they're really good. Yeah, they still can't keep
up with a great quarterback. They will never meet as
much today now is great, and so why commit resources
there unless look, every now and then, if you already
have a great quarterback and you're trying to give him
a weapon on a rookie deal for a few years,
and you're solid on the line and you like your dbs,

(31:11):
like I can understand, every now and then, you get
comfortable enough for you're like, Okay, we're gonna go for
this running back. But it takes an exact sent him
circumstances to make a to make his team use one
of those draft picks.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Takes a perfect guy, which I think Bejan last year
was the perfect guy. I think Gibbs is that perfect
guy that I would warrant a chance on the first
round er for that position.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
The Falcons did happens, but the Lions had everything else right.
They had golf, They had a great line, they had
a great defense. So it's like, okay, now, receiver, you
should try to improve here on a rookie deal. Get
rid of Swift and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And there isn't that breakout start
in this year's draft. There isn't. There's a bunch of
guys that I mean. Hell if you even say from
the top to the bottom or top to the middle
middle of the draft, is there like a great separation
of those players, Like is there a big separation between say,
like a Jonathan Brooks and a Marshaw Lloyd at the
USC And like, I don't see like this huge gap

(32:06):
where why would I take Jonathan Brooks and beginning of
the second round where I could probably get Marshawn beginning
the third if not fourth. Yeah, So like and that
kind of goes to the receiving position room two, like
where obviously you will see plenty of receivers and we'll
get to it, plenty of receivers drafted early on the draft,
but you may see a lull because when you get
the tier two, Tier two and three are pretty damn close.

(32:28):
Like Tier one is elite for receivers. The Marvin the
Malik the duneesay, like those guys deserve to be top
top ten. But then after that you start getting the
tier two, tier three. They're so close to each other
that people would be rather weight around to get a
guy in tier three knowing that it's not that far off.
And I think that's the problem with the running back

(32:49):
room this year in general, is they're all pretty close
to like to say, Bucky Irvin, you can get Bucking
like the fourth or fifth round.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Well, and again, again, it's unfortunate running back because it
walle it is some of it absolutely is just the
talent of this group, Like you're getting that. It is
also inherent to the position and how football is has
evolved and how football is featured, and how we think
about the importance of throwing the ball versus running the ball,

(33:19):
and it's you know, this is just not the days
of him at Smith anymore. And so it's just every
it's like, again, you can get a free agent guy
that can do enough or basically do.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Or get or get to get guys I mean more
teams that have two or three guys. Now, yes, it's
running back to my committee. Everyone has their their their
special talent. That is game plan for and that's what
you have.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I mean, not that anybody should ever draft any or
make any decisions based on what the New York Giants do,
but the Giants kind of told you everything you need
to know about the running back position when they decided
to pay Daniel Jones over Saquon Barkley. Yeah, you know,
and look, it looks like a terrible decision, but they
were panicking because, hey, if you even think you have
a quarterback, you have to be willing to try to

(34:08):
stick with him, which begs the questionaire Murray, how many
quarterbacks will go in the first round on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
I think four go for go. I think your boy
asked me this the other day, Hester asked me over
under four and a half quarterbacks in the first round.
I'm gonna go right there at the four numbers. I'm
gonna take the under. I think Caleb goes, I think
Jayden goes, I think Drake goes, and I do think
JJ goes to Minnesota. I've said this for seven eight

(34:37):
months since even during the season. Bo Nicks is a
really good college quarterback. I think he's a mid round
NFL draft pick. He's think I think to me he's
a third round talent, which is still pretty damn good.
You know, I think he'll go in the second. I
don't think he'll go in the first. I think I
think teams will will shift through it and say, you know,

(34:59):
what do we want to do. We want to truly
build and have an opportunity to win a championship with
this guy, and I just I don't see it. So
I think he drops to the second round, and obviously Michael,
with some of the injury concerns, might drop. I think
if one of them, if we were to get to five,
I honestly would put my money on Michael Pennick's going
before bo Nix.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I mean, I would have to think it'd be easier
to fall in love with Pinnix. Yes, in the first round,
right like. But but here's where it gets scary. Four
is a big number. I mean even five, you know,
five is a really big numbers.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, but when you go to three quarter quarter quarter no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
No, sorry, I'm not saying it's not gonna happen. I
think four is without a doubt gonna happen. Maybe five.
But what we have to engage in think about this Aaron, Uh,
you're talking about five guys at one position in one round,
and it's a position where there's maybe fifteen guys on

(35:59):
the plan that we deem playing at an acceptable level.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
But I'm just saying, if you want to win a championship,
there's two ways to do it. You have a Patrick
Mahomes or you have a quarterback on a rookie roster
that you can build a lead talent around him. Those
are the two ways to win a championship. So if
you know that there isn't a Patrick Mahomes out there,
you can get a guy like that, and there's only
probably a handful of them. There's maybe four or five

(36:25):
quarterbacks in the NFL right now that you could say
that guy can go win a championship. If you don't
have him, you're going to take more of a chance
on a rookie and then building a lead roster around him.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
So yes, I'm just saying, if we're thinking about pushing
into a fifth quarterback, if you're that team, you have
to ask yourself, Okay, first off, is Bonix really that guy?
And secondly, do I really think that the guy who's
rated fifth at his position coming out of Cosmo. Maybe
your own scouting has its scored differently, But do I

(36:57):
really think that this fifth guy can be the guy
when again, there's fifteen people on the planet that could
be the guy? And that's maybe even being generous. I mean,
how many fan bases of the NFL right now are
truly happy with their quarterbacks? I don't, but you probably have.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
A better roster though. You probably have a better roster.
So why he may not be Caleb? You know, he
may have better support around him where they can can
maybe mass some of the issues that that you know
that that guy has. I do think if I had
to put it, like, okay, someone won the trade up
into the first round, and and I know both these
guys have played a lot of football. Uh, Drake has

(37:34):
played or excuse me, Bo has played a ton of football,
has played more college football snaps than than anyone in
college football history. Michael Pennix has played a lot of
collegiate football as well. Yeah, so you have you know
what you're getting. You know, this isn't a JJ McCarthy
where there's still questions like what is this guy going
to be mentally and physically? It's a matter of now
do I just like their physical mental trades to be

(37:57):
my quarterback. But you can't tell me that a team
with what we just talked about offense is pushing the
ball of Berkeley down the field. Wouldn't say, hey, if
we can keep Michael Pennock's junior healthy, that he couldn't
come in there with some really good receivers and have
success early on.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
No, look, I agree, but I know it's just because
I don't always understand what goes into these things. Is
it just injury concerns with Pennis? Because yeah, I don't know.
I mean I watch I Maybe this's unfair because you
could say it's his best game. There's plenty of tape
to pull from. But I mean, you watch the Oregan games,
you watch the Texas game, and how do you think

(38:36):
that's not a guy that can succeed on the NFL
level Because I like his mental makeup. He shows up
in the biggest games. He consistently won him for two years.
I'll put a mass stats. I mean, I guess he
had a couple off days, for whatever that's worth.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
But yeah, I mean we went through the stats during
the season. There was a there's a lowll mid season
where he had multiple games where he one game was
in the rain through like forty eight percent completion. Yeah,
a couple of games were like in the fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, which yeah, no, for sure, was not kidding.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I know at all bases on offense and what your
offense is trying to do. But you know bo never
had a game like that. You know, his offense was
different in what he threw, but you know he didn't
have games restore in the forteen to fifties. So I
think there's a couple those games too, are part of
the reason why you know, Michael Penish your new when
the Heisman either.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
In text me probably the reason why he didn't win
the Heisman, otherwise he absolutely would have. Uh Okay, So
we think four quarterbacks get drafted on Thursday. Yep, probably
no running back to the top two.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, and I'll say this one last thing got into
my head. I'm taking Spencer Ratler over bow Nicks.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, I mean I could, I could. I see you've
been hanging out with the chuch. So Austin Brooks tweeting
that South Carolina wasted NFL level quarterback play the last
couple of years.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I love what people say, like wasted like you're not
wasting something when you just don't have the resources to
build it a great roster, like it is what it is,
and you're you're lucky that you at least had him.
I don't know if you can waste something when you
don't really have an opportunity to build a Georgia No.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I mean, look, Rattler's got to be the most exciting
because he was on the He was in the worst
situation out of anybody that we're talking about, right, So
he was constantly having to play almost like he was
like playing up a grade, right, It's almost like he
was like a freshman on VARs City, whereas all these
other guys who were more like varsity members playing JV teams.

(40:32):
I mean, it's the one thing that you can maybe
come after Jaden Daniels for is like nobody had a
greater supporting cast every single Saturday offensively did then did Daniels. Okay,
so no running backs up around four quarterbacks. We think
Daniels will go to overall to the comedies, and I
think that's the best landing spot. You kind of think
that Chicago, New England could be better. Who is the

(40:56):
best wide receiver in this draft because look, we know this,
we know it's Malik Neighbors and Marvin Harrison Junior. In
my opinion, if you prefer one over the other, it
is just that it's opinion taste, right. I don't think
there's like an objective truth to be had there. Both
are awesome. What I find interesting is that a lot

(41:19):
of these, you know, barring some trade backs, will see
but there's a chance that you could have one of
these ending up four to Arizona and one ending up
going right behind him. That might be five, but one
to Arizona and then one to the Chargers. And I
ask you this, if you are a wide receiver, where
would you rather land? Would you rather land in Arizona

(41:40):
or with the Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Oh, I'm definitely going with the Chargers. Well, I think
it's another interesting thing is if the Chargers do get
you know, obviously they stay at number five, do they
take a receiver? Do you take brock Powers? You know,
that's gonna be an interesting debate of you know, do
you take the guy that can move around, was maybe
the most dynamic player in college football for the past
two seasons, or do you take the receiver? So there'll

(42:05):
be obviously Hardball's first big decision there at number five.
But I would obviously rather be in in In. You know,
with the Chargers, there's no doubt about it. You know,
Justin Herbert is an absolute beast. I think you go
to a place where you know that there's a quarterback
that has elite potential, and you know Kyler just hasn't

(42:26):
proved it to us at a consistent level there in Arizona,
so you know, it's all said and done. I mean,
the big winner probably is going to be Molik Neighbors
because I think who would I choose If I'm Arizona
and I'm picking receiver, I'm picking Marvin Harrison Junior. I
think both are top guys. I would be happy with both.
I think both are elite. Both are are savvy enough
to play the outside, play the inside, do a bevy

(42:48):
of things. I just go to size. Marvin Harrison Junior
six three two nine. Molik Neighbors is six foot two hundreds.
I like a bigger receiver. You put two guys in
the same room and they give me the same exact thing.
I want to pick the guys a little bit bigger.
It's a big man's game.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
It's fair. Yeah, I mean it's hard to argue with.
And again I'm not going to because I don't think
there's an objective truth to be had between the two.
I just think we could have a bit of a
paradoxical situation where the guy drafted behind the other one
could end up putting better stats up his rookie year

(43:27):
because one may have Jonathan Gannon and Kyler Murray while
the other has Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
All right, Look, if you want to do a couple
questions to finish this finished show out, you can do.
Hasseg Ask snaps in the chat, what do we got here?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
We have show flu by today, man, little NFL talk
already forty five minutes.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Bro my freaking I know, and I got the migraine
kicking up again. I don't know what the fuck's going on? Uh.
Greg Hendrick says, exactly where's Bowers going? For what it's worth,
we didn't get here, but we both independently arrived at
Brock Bowers being the safest player in the draft. Yep,
in terms of where he's ending up.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
If you think all the skill guys is I mean
quarterbacks are always a crap shoot. We've we've seen this
for years now. I mean, hell, all of them could
be a bust. But I do think that the safest
to me are the receivers in Brock like Marvin Harrison,
Junior Molik, Neighbors, Brock Bowers. Those three to me seem
like for sure home runs.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I mean, I think so, I agree. I just I
think that for some reason, I don't know, I feel
like being a like like tight end, the path might
be even easier for Bowers. And maybe it's because he
was such an outlier on the college level, Like you know,
he is peerless, right like we we we we talk

(44:48):
about you can talk about Harrison, you can neighbors talk
about a doonsa and like you said, they're on that
tier together and we're to tier tight ends. Brock Bowers
has his own tier yep. Right, so feels like he
would I mean that that he would trans and and honestly,
there's not as much pressure on a rookie tight end
as a rookie number one receiver. If you want to

(45:10):
know where guys are gonna get drafted, ESPN Analytics has
a draft a predictor. If you google It's very fun
to play with, but they just like you know, they
kind of hive mind everything, and and and put in
these isold bar Grafts and brock Bauers. Seems like a
pretty heavy favor to go to the Jets at ten,
which at first you sound like, oh shit, if he

(45:32):
go to the Jets, is gonna bust out. But Aaron
Rodgers with that weapon, like you with Aaron Rodgers loves
to take advantage of having a great tight end, you
would think that bron Powers could be set up for
a pretty huge year one.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
All right, I do want to go to the chat.
Jimmy Saxon asked, as snaps, you mentioned underrated quarterbacks, what
about other underrated skill players that will be a steal
in day two or three? I think you go with
the receivers, you know I talked about earlier in Tier
two and Tier three receivers is absolutely deep. I mean
you could get in the third round. I'm wanna name
a couple of guys that that are probably gonna be second, third,

(46:07):
if not fourth, rown guys possibly xavierly Get, Xavier uh
uh uh Keon, Coleman, Xavier Worthy, lad McConkie Keon Coleman
from Florida State, Troy Franklin from Oregon, Roman Wilson from Michigan. Yeah,
I mean you're talking about five.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Did you say Ricky Piers as well from Florida?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I think Ricky could be like fourth or fifth, But
I mean there's gonna be a bevy of receivers third
to fifth round that you're like, damn, Like that's a
that's a massive get for that that that NFL team
and that guy has a chance to you know, find
his way into the rotation pretty early. Uh.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I mean we we we were talking about it today
on snaps from a New Orleans Saints perspective, you know,
had forty snaps Jesus Christ off the bench. Uh at
forty five, I think that I feel like that's where
the Saint seed to go because to your point, like
Keon Coleman may still be there, Lad McConkie could potentially
be there, and then all the other names that you

(47:07):
just mentioned, like there's just so much of them that
you should be able to get high value at that
position relatively later in this dress. Who would you take
between Keon Coleman and Lad mohonky.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Uh depends on the offense. But once again I go
to the size thing. Keon Coleman. Dude, he's a physical
specimen sixty three two fifteen. I mean, depends on what
you need. I mean, lad obviously more that shifty slot receiver.
So if I need that Julian Edelman, and I know
it's white on white, so that's why I'm going with

(47:41):
the comparison. I'm going with that. But if I need
a true X or Z receiver on the outside that can,
you know, be that red zone thread and win some
one on one balls, That's how I formaate my offense.
Then I go with Kean Coleman. So it's kind of
hard to compare the two because their games are very,
very different. But I always lean to a bigger receiver.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
So earlier in the chat, somebody said rookie Titans never
show out as brock Bearers really were the first round pick.
Let's you remember this about Kyle Pitts because he was
probably the last tight end that came out that had
this much hype. Kyle Pitt's got in a bad situation
in Atlanta. Kyle pitch no but but his rookie year,
he had sixty eight grabs for one thousand yards, like

(48:21):
he still went over a thousand his rookie year. So no,
Bowers with Aaron Rodgers could be really really good.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Quick quick football question here. What happens first Clemson FSU
get into the Power two or miss to be State,
South Carolina or other bottomweight gets kicked out Clemson, Florida State.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I don't think anybody's getting kicked out, No, I think yeah,
I think college football has shown that they don't. There's
an appetite to change things and to figure it out,
but I think there's less of an appetite for the
pure super league than we give credit to sometimes, right, Like,
there's a reason why the fourteen ten playoff was agreed

(49:01):
to so readily, and it's because it gave the super
conferences inherent advantages in terms of revenue and playoff spots.
But it still kept everybody in the fold. So I
don't know that there's a rush to kick out the
bottom dwellers. Hashtag ass snaps thoughts on the FSU ACC
championship rings. Did you see this? FSU gave their team

(49:25):
rings that say thirteen and oh and they say unconquered
on them.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Nice. I like that.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I love it as well, I was shouted down this
morning with my co hosts saying that, well, they did
get conquered, they got conquered by Georgia. I don't agree.
I don't think that was that FSU team at all.
I think FSU got fucked and then they didn't get
to play in a playoff game, so instead they got
to play an exhibition game. And I don't count exhibition
games except when I want to for an argument. And

(49:54):
so thirteen and oh, yeah, look, to be honest, I
think what they did was incredible this year, and I
think they got fucked, and I got no. This is
not Georgia where you measure yourself in national championships. It's
not LSU where you even do that, or Alabama. It's FSU,
a team that was always really good but still only
what one Natty in the Bowden era.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah, I think only one? Right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
And so the thing is like thirteen and oh in
today's football doing what they did, I have no problem
with that being rewarded and for them them getting rings
for that.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Ye ask snaps? Does Aaron like the Falcons are just indifferent?
I'm I grew up in Tampa, so I'm a Bucks fan.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
So nuts fan, the buck Boy fade buck Boys calling
it are a couple of weeks away from me.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Do you really think they're one of the best four teams.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I'm not getting into this argument.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
We're not. We're not.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
We're not having those.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Arg back and watch an episode from December.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
We're not having those argument again. That he cannot do it. Uh.
Will Anderson was defensive Rick of the Year. Seems likely. Uh,
Turner does pretty well. No, so, I actually had Dallas
Turner as my second safest pick. But I do think
positionally rushing the passer in the NFL is a pretty
massive leap compared to playing tight end. So that's the

(51:16):
only thing. Even though I think Turner is awesome.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
They get good outside linebackers in this draft too. You
want to talk like a good position, the lot of
two kids from UCLA, Jared Ruscheford State, Chop Robinson from
Penn State. That's some good stuff right there. I would say, like,
if you want to go defense, who do you feel
good about? Yeah, there's some pretty good defensive tackles too,
like Byron Murphy. You know that's someone that can get

(51:39):
in there and play Day one. I would say they're
the top four or five DT's in the draft are
pretty darn good too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I mean if yeah, if you can that, that's why
are you drafting? Just how do they how do they
replace that?

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I mean no, but let's see where where he Yeah, yeah, no,
I think he does. I looked this up the other day.
Hard let me find him on this list home one.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Second talk Cooper Dijon.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yes so I According to the Draft Day Predictor, he
is one of the kind of wildcard first round picks
where there's no overwhelming favorite where he could get picked,
but he is projected in that's seventeen to thirty two range,
mostly so he could slip into second round, but there's
a very good chance that you'll see him picked around

(52:38):
the mid twenties.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Weird looking at a starting White cornerback in the NFL
next year.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, big win for big win for US Whiteyes, yeah,
for sure, Emilo Cleob says, Noah Fan hayten Hurst, O. J.
Howards is a few of the names the first rounds
I had ended didn't do much early on. I would
agree with that. But the reason why I went to
Kyle Pitts is because Kyle pitch is an outlier in
the same way that I feel like Brock Bowers is
at the risk of disrespecting everybody you just named. I

(53:06):
don't feel that they were as much of an outlier
as Bowers is. Who do you want the Saints to get?
And Aron? Who do you want the Bucks to get
the Saints? I mean, I'm so deep in this woods
on this ship. The Saints have to get an offensive tackle.
So for Sean who from Penn State is a guy
that they're looking at. And then at forty five again,

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I want him to go receiver and take advantage of
some of the depth there.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Where are the Bucks at in the draft? Do they
even have a first runner? They are twenty six twice.
He's an interesting spot.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Actually, the team that Cooper de Jean is most mocked
to Tampa, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. There you go, let's go
from Iowa to Tampa. He's gonna be like, did I
just enter hell.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Lineman? Baker needs an offensive lineman. Go get him an
offensive line. And there's a lot of ot tackles.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
We had a tackle asked Snaps, can you elaborate about
what's so attracted about women dressed up as ninja turtles? Well,
did you see the video or you weren't here yesterday, Aaron,
somebody sent me a video in the morning of some
very thick women in full body paint and ninja turtle

(54:26):
shells like they were painted like the Ninja turtles, and
it was very confusing. But well, yeah, I mean, if
you want me to elaborator, what's so attractive? They just
had massive curves and I love heavy women.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
I just do.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
And uh, who the turtle shells are popping? I can't.
I gotta go to Florida to do my brother's wedding.
So no, In fact, I think I'm gonna be out Thursday.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Unfortunately, I will be here though. We will do a
live show. I'm trying to think of someone that would
be another good Probably do a last minute draft show.
Maybe we'll do like a mock draft like our Top twenty.
I'll find something to coming here and do it. Have
some fun, bring your questions, will be very interactive. We'll
see you on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Do you think ESPN is gonna mentionor Cooper de John
being white when he's drafted?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
I hope so. I think so.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Probably should Ox in the Shop says, who wins a haircut?
Coming so I'm supposed to if it gets one hundred
percent confirmed, I'm supposed to go to Chicago for some
work stuff, and then that's gonna be like May six
to ten, and then after that it's going I'm planning
during it. Fuck me all right, love y'all. Sorry, it's

(55:49):
been a couple of weird days for your boy. I'll
be back one hundred percent hopefully when you see me next.
But it's been very fun snaps. As always, you want
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Speaker 3 (56:06):
We will.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
We will see you next time on a brand new
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