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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Huh oh, okay, interesting, I didn't do I should talk
into my mic. What's up, y'all? What's going on? T Bob? Here,
we'll be to a brand get in here that Aaron
is out today. Aaron's going to charity golf tournament, which
we love to see. And I forgot to start with
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our countdown video. So here we are. We're live. As
you can see. I am at home. The office that
I normally do my work out of the internet was down.
It's been a weird ass day, y'all. I've had a
bit of a migraine. I don't normally get headaches like this.
I don't know what happened. Something went down though, I
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don't know. I don't know. It's been a weird day.
But I'm excited for today's show. Maybe a little bit
of a quicker show today. A lot of craziness here
going on in the home front. But we got Peter
Burns stopping by in a couple of minutes and peeb
uh Will. We're gonna break down a lot of the
Texas spring game with Peter, which if you haven't seen it, well,
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I mean, look the spring games out with the watch.
But I would say go hunt down. Go if you're
into this, and if you're listening to snaps you likely are, Uh,
go hunt down the God. I told you all my
brain's how working today? What's going on? Oh? Go hunt
down the arch Man in highlights of every throw that
he made. He did, he did, he did fantastic. My
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I don't remember the Ethereum offer. Uh the popas tep
you need help the backgrounds? No, really let me know.
I I absolutely will, and I know Ben you've offered
as well. Look into that. I I normally have a
picture of the gold Shire in or lines pried End
from Wow in the background, but I would not. It
would not let me. Uh for some reason, it would
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not let me do it. Uh wait, wait, wait, okay,
hold on, hold on though, hold on, hold on as
I wait a little bit for Peb to get here.
Let's try this. And I figured it out. It's not
the Lions pried in, but maybe so coming up we'll
see arch leaders shoot arch haters losing their shit, says
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Texas Rocks. Yeah yeah, I mean if you were on
the arch manning's not actually that good. Uh, Bandwagon Yeah,
you're you're having a bad day today after Saturday m bokinny.
Isn't Peter Birds went until you show up on your
own show. Yeah, I believe that was true as well
one time. But hey, you know what, forgive and forget.
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Uh But yeah, look, here's what I'll say about Arch.
I watched every thrilly major in spring. I did not
watch the entire spring game, but I thought Arch Manning
looked objectively really damn good. The number was a great
It's it's like nineteen to twenty four so long, and
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I've adds like three fifty three touchdowns. Numbers are what
they are, though they could have been even more impressive.
He had a four touchdown. There was an absolute beautiful
dart to Isaiah Bond that Bond ended up dropping. That
would have increased it across the port. But the numbers
are five. But I've seen people get up put up
good numbers in spring games. It's how he looked putting
up the numbers. I saw a young quarterback who was
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going through all of his progressions right, who was very
comfortable in the pocket. His footwork was excellent as he
navigated the pocket, as he would influence the rush I
saw a quarterback that was taking what the defense was
giving him. And that's a bit interesting to speak on
because normally when we think about taking what the defense
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is giving them, like it could be code speak, right,
We have a lot of code speak when it comes
to college football. I a guy's sneaky athletic. He's probably
a white guy that has a little bit of speed
to him and his workout word all. That's kind of
the very cliche ones that you go to. Taking what
the defense giving you is generally code speak for a
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quarterback that is just going to check down and be
conservative at all costs. I am not saying that when
I say about an arch Manning, I mean it legitimately.
When he had to check down, he did. But when
the defense would offer him chunks, he was able to
consistently find those. And then when the defense well for
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him massive deep balls seventy five yard touchdowns, he pretty
consistently found those. He looked really comfortable to screen game,
very good on all of his quick throws to arm
angles that he was able to get it out from. Again,
I told you really like the positive pocket presses of footwork,
and when you're talking about great quarterback play. It ultimately
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comes down to two things decision making and accuracy. Do
you know where to put the ball and then can
you put like like you know the correct person to
throw too, and then can you throw it to the
correct area once you're throwing to that person. And I
saw that in spades out of Arch Maanning in that
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spring game on Saturday. See I think Texas. I don't
want to be clear about this. I almost feel a
bit like I almost feel a bit cheesy and doing
a take like this because I feel like everybody's rushing
to get out of take like this, and to me,
I feel like you'd have to be It's it's just
a conversation I don't think has a lot of legitimacy. Legitimacy,
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so it's almost like I don't want to bring it up,
but it's it's the it's the quarterback controversy thing, right,
is there a controversy? Is our quarterback controversy at Texas?
After this great spring game performance from Archmanning and no, no,
very clearly Quinn yours is the guy and will be
the guy this upcoming season. Your biggest takeaway have nothing
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to do with the controversy. If you're a Texas fan
listening the right now, your biggest takeaway should be that, well, A,
it seems like you have a really solid insurance plan
for this season. Should Quinn Suvern injury as he did
last year at some point during the year. Also, you
have a guy who had that You're very excited about
his potential now, even more so than you were before,
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and every rep that he's able to get this year
will only make it better for the future. Probably your
biggest taway though, is that you look like you should
be really good at quarterback now for years to come.
Right this year with viewers, who will probably be the
top quarterback picked, then maybe two more years with Arch
after that. And I would also say this about Arch,
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what a difference from last year's spring game to this
year's spring game. And again this is something obvious. Well, yeah, duh,
of course, right, Like last year's spring game, he'd been
there a couple of weeks. He should have still been
in high school, Like, it's very tough to go out
there and perform, and he was like five or thirteen.
But a lot of people watching every Arch there last
year used that as a launch of bad to be like, oh,
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he's overrated. He's not that guy, He's not this or that. Well,
look at him this year because if you just compare
the two games, the growth is massive, which I also
think is a big win for Steve Sarkisian. As you know,
he is thought to be one of the premier offensive
minds in college football today, and watching Arch's growth from
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last year to this year is well, it speaks to
Sarkisian being able to train not just one guy to
be really good like a Quinn youwers, but to be
able to train guys for years to come. Here the
only question I have, and this one I really want
to chop it up with PB about who oh there
he is right here? Oh there we go, Peter. What's up, dude?
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What's going on? Man? Can you hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm just trying to figure out get all the tech
to where Quinn is transferring to now that Arch is
won the Heisman right right?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's it's funny. I mean I just talked about it.
It's like I feel a little I almost don't want
to engage with it because it's like, ah, like there
because there is no controversy, right, like we all know
if I'm a Texas fan, I should just be really
happy because I feel like I should be excited for
the next like four years now.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
In theory, right, I mean, I'm there, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I did the I did the spring game with Brian Robinson,
and we were doing the pregame and postgame for Longhorn Network,
and we look at each other kind of like, oh,
you know, kind of joking around. After he throws the
first pass for seventy five yards just on an absolute dime,
We're like.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Here it is controversy, ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And then we kind of look at each other like
the next you know, like two prizes later, we're like okay,
And then like he keeps going and going and throwing
dome at your dime, and we're like, this is is
a thing?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Right? Is this not a thing? Is it a thing?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Like I you know, and and ultimately it is going
to be a thing right one way or another. Like
I understand, I'm interested in the fact of, Hey, do
we want to talk about it? Do we not want
to talk about it? You have to talk about it
if for no other reason there's there's you know, history
behind it. Look at Jalen hurts into a tongue of
Ailoa like, both of those guys are successful NFL quarterbacks,
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they are successful collegiate quarterbacks, and they were in the
same room and at some point Nick had to make
a decision to go with Tua, went with the second
half the Georgia game. He won a national championship. It
may never come down to that, and I think the
most but they have that option. And I also think
it's a credit to not just Sarka developing because I
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I love what you said about you know how he
developed Arch. But it's also a credit to Arch in
his support system of going, hey, let's go old school.
Not to start day one, I need to make a
X amount of money in nil. It is hey, get
your feet wet on campus, learn what it takes to
live in Austin, which is a whole different ball of wax.
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I don't care where you're from Austin and being the
big man on campus like he is, it's a different world.
And get bigger, get stronger, get faster, and make it comfortable.
That happened with Eli, it happened with Peyton, and now
I think we're gonna see it with Arch. It's almost
like the throwback how you see quarterbacks and develop t
Bob back back in the day when we love college
football rather than the new world that we have now.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, it's it's kind of funny because we had this
discussion on the show the other day. It's like, I
feel like kids nowadays just to go full old man
sounding like it's it's just increasingly rare that anybody shows
up and knows like, Okay, I'm not gonna play. And
I was just using my own experience as kind of
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launching point for the conversation, because like, I grew up
a hard corel Shoe fan, so it's really cool to
get to go to LSU. But that first year, like, yeah,
I knew, like no, no, no, I'm gonna go, I'm in
a red shirt GONNW scout team, gonna get bigger, stronger,
like learn the game. And so it's kind of awesome
for me because I just felt like a fan that
got front row tickets to every game, Like I would
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put sunflower seeds in my gloves and put my helmet
behind the bitch and I'd be chilling there like I
had front row seats, just loving it. And Arch, yeah,
it kind of a throwback. He did that as well,
and so Bo Katty the Chad says, if the last
name wasn't Manning, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.
He looked good. There's no controversy in the hype around
his last name. So this is where I disagree. I mean, obviously,
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obviously the name is unavoidable, and yes it does push
this to the four. But if you just looked at
the film, like I said, it was elite level quarterback play.
It was good decision making, It was checking down when
he had to, It was clearly working through his progressions.
It was chunk plays. It was accuracy either it was
some dropballs it could have made it better, it was
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different arm angles like. It was just objectively a really
damn good performance. And here here's here's what I wanted
to ask you against.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It was also against a secondary that was ranked one
hundredth last year and they're still trying to figure out
who the hell that they have as well too.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You know that was gonna be the next question, the
eternal camp paradox, Right, is this more about the offense
being good or the defense being bad? For Texas?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's a little bit of both. It's whatever you want
to take out of it. But I you know, if
I'm sark, I want to make sure that I'm ripping
what am I known for it. I'm known for having
good quarterback play and explosive offense. Right, And with the
amount of wide receiver churn and turnover that they had
with Xavier Worthy in others going to the league, is that, Hey,
what was it going to look like with Isaiah Bond there,
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with Ny Black there, with with you know, Ryan Wingo,
the five star recruit who was damn very impressive off
the bat. What's this going to look like? And it
looked good. I would rather have that tape much like
LSU's tape last year, the secondary being horrendously bad and
you had an explosive offense. All right, this is what
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we need to work on in the rest of the
fall or of the transfer portal. Maybe we don't have
the guys like I left the spring game thinking, not
only does the Texas have the best quarterback room in
the country, but they might have one of the deepest
wide receiver corps as well, And that's impressive. You can
fix the secondary to a certain extent, and you don't
need to be the damn eighty five Bears. You need
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to have a top sixty defense to be able to
win a national championships as explosive as that offense could be.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That's funny because those are the same internal conversations we
had with like okay, if if LSU is going to
break through, like what's the level? And like top fifty
I think is to cut off that I attached that,
but I think Texas offen is gonna be slightly better.
So top sixty would I think, I think be accurate there.
Let me ask you an SEC wide question here PB
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that I find to be pretty fascinating. Let's say there
are three playoff spots. And I've been asking this of
all our guests pretty much, but let's say there's three
playoff spots for the SEC that there absolutely could be four.
We're gonna go ahead and get Georgia one automatically, right
in my own book, I'll give all a go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know, I mean, I mean, Georgia is now
what the fact that it's the gold standard, right, I mean,
and especially you know, with Michigan losing as much as
they've lost, you sit there and go all right, it's
gonna be Georgian.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Who else?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Much like for a long time we talked about, you know,
Alabama being the hey this is and then who else
is going to get that?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So you're gonna say Georgia's one.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So Georgia immediately takes up a slot. I kind of
been leaving towards giving Alabama automatic one, but let's do
this or this, So then you got Alabama, Texas, Ole,
Miss Miszoo lsu in a Seed thinks they're in that
crew for sure as well am I missing anyone? The
point is there's like a lot of very legitimate candidates
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and just like not a lot of oxygen in the room.
So if you're scoring your top three going into the season,
who are you giving the.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Benefit of it out to Georgia one, Texas two, and
Ole Miss three. I mean, I feel like Old Miss
in the way that they've brought to this thing together,
is in better shape than Alabama is right now, especially
at the quarterback, and that's not a you know, I
would think Jaylen Milroe can get a little bit better.
But there's also a reason why Isaiah Bond had an
opportunity to be the stud I mean, Isaiah Bond had
one of the greatest catches in SEC history, right the
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Grave Keeger route against Auburn. He could have stayed at Alabama.
He could have waited and saw that Calen de Bor
has had the explosive offenses and look at what he
did with Roma Dunsay and all that guy and be
the legend. Like he could have retired even if he
never played NFL football and just sold Iron Bowl T
shirts on that for his life and done insurance and
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you have been fine. And he was like, no, I
want to make a business decision. I want to go
to Texas. No, I Black did the same exact thing.
So to me, Texas is coming in at number two,
and you've got old Missus sitting at number three. I
think Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, all those other cats are going
to be behind him right now. Doesn't mean that even
Missouri doesn't mean they can't catch lightning in a bottle.
But those are the top three right now.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, I guess the only thing about Alabama is man,
I just cannot escape the Kailin de Bor factor. I mean,
the guy's resumes as untouchable as yell are fine anywhere.
He's obviously got more talent you've ever seen anywhere. I
thought coming out of the spring game, I thought it
looked like a hard hitting spring game. I mean paths
pop and physical, and that looks like a team to
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me that is going to be built through running the
ball and do great o' line play and then kind
of trying to put Jalen Milroe in positions to take
advantage of that supreme memtholeticism. I may maybe maybe I'm
just too I don't know, if you called Stockholm syndrome, like,
I don't know, maybe it just runs too yes, maybe
maybe my trauma runs too deep, pebe. But I just
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it's so hard to pre put even Texas over Alabama
for me. And that's after they go into just schose
last year and when.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I mean, listen, I understand that I'm gonna get bent
over by the irs every single year, right, and so
like like you just prepare for certain things, and Alabama
being a college football playoff team, especially when there's twelve
teams in the College Football Playoff is the same way,
like you just it's death taxes in Alabama. That's traditionally
what it is right now, but I have to see
it and because everybody else has gotten better, right, everybody
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else has, I would say, if you're talking about the
net increases of Ole Miss versus the net decreases of
what Alabama lost starting with Nick Saban. It's more of
a deficiency of what Alabama loss is a game changer,
and again they could they could still have a hell
of a season. I mean, we didn't even talk about
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if Connor Wegman is healthy at A and M and
Mike Elcho squad. I think they're a little bit more
in that kind of B tier of the SEC. But
I thought about it today. Can you imagine a scenario
where it's nine and two Texas nine and two Texas
A and M in Kyle Field for the first time
that they've played in over a decade with a college
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football playoff? But my nipples are hard just thinking about it.
I'm excited to think that's a possibility of it. And
then Brent Vinnibles is like, bro, remember me, I'm over
here as well too, Like it's it's gonna remind me.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, and like we didn't even mention Oklahoma. And then
and then no one even feels that compelled to be like,
but what about Oklahoma because there's just kind of doubt
there right now? Yeah, I agree, college football fool. Peter
gets the show. There we go mentioning hard Knips absolutely
gets it. Hey, TB, how about this quick little sojourn
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look at me and you dude, just a couple of
gymnastics Natty champs chopping it up.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah about Paul Skins and Livy Dunn living the best
like life of it. I had Jake Clark, the LSU
gymnastics coach, on the on My Serious XM show this morning,
and he was awesome and he was just talked about like, hey, man,
like when I rolled to Baton Rouge, I came from Georgia.
I didn't know if I'd like this place, and he's like,
d d bro was basically almost quit and yeah, was
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like the hell you're quitting. And so it's a it's
a good time, man, good time down there.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
We we talked to Jay this morning as well, and
it was pretty uh, pretty fantastic. But yeah, for those
that don't know LSU Gymnastics winning the Natty over the weekend,
and yes you all know Livy done, her and Pulse
schemes are together, but now have Natty rings and skiings.
Is we looked it up today. He has thrown six
times is the amount of one hundred mile per hour
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pitches that has any other starter in all of baseball.
So LSU's power couple continues to only get more powerful. Peter,
let's talk about other spring games around the country. I
think Ohio State is a pretty interesting one. Actually, Hold
before we do that, let's talk about spring games conceptually,
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because you see'll miss and they do more of like
a Pro Bowl type fun and you know just just
fun games.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Is a glass spring game? Yeah, that's what it was, right,
And I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Is that the future of spring games? Should it be?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
No, because the future of spring games is no longer
going to be spring games. Sooner or later, when they
do revenue sharing with the college athletes, I think what
they'll end up doing is actually playing damn games. I
think that they'll play a LSU might play, you know,
Louisiana Tech, WHOA, you might play Georgia Southern or something
like that and go put it on television.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I mean again, if you're going to say, if you're
going to have a game, why not actually have a game?
Some teams can do it, some teams can't. But all
of a sudden, if you came up there and you
had a spring jamboreo, showcase and we got to watch
those games. That's what you'll see.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And I, you know, I there's I was surprised.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Like with Sark, we talked to him earlier in the
week and Sark's like, listen, I got enough depth. I'm
gonna play a regular football game.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I need that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And if transfer out, guys transfer out, but then we'll
transfer guys back in. Like it's no big deal. But
for Lane and those guys, I don't knock their version
of the Spring game as well conceptually, because hey, you
don't want to put on tape anything for anybody right now,
and you don't want to sit there and go all right, well, hey,
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I got brought in here to transfer to Ole Miss
and I was the fourth guy to catch a ball
in the second half, and all of a sudden, I
got eight voicemails from collectives and agencies going, hey, man,
just let you know we saw you or we didn't
see you in the spring game. You could come start
with us from the fall. Let me let me collect
you know, connect you with my collective guys. So I
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see both sides of the equation right now. That's why
I say screw it. Just start playing other teams. And
let it and do a revenue share and with the players.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, I mean it is interesting, like you said, like
it's it's it is. It's so situational that getting into
oh this is gonna be everywhere. It's just it's just
hard to say either way. Like, of course you look
at LSU and defensively, they don't want to show anything.
They got Blake Baker and everybody like, no, they're just
gonna run base the whole time. Because what's going to
be a great advantage going into USC, and USC has
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the same advantage completely we're working their defense, right, Both
these super similar squads are going to be squaring off
Week one in Vegas, and neither want did you give
up any information to the other? Uh okay, so.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Let's cluster f by the way that we end up
having the transfer portal the way that it did, I
mean even even even the transfer portal for college basketball
as well, right, I mean like literally there could have
been there could have been a player that made the
Sweet sixteen, and at some point says, listen, if you
don't collect hook me up at the collective right now,
I'm not going to go play in the Elite eight game.
I mean and the and they literally could have put
their name in the transfer portal.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So so so it's it. I mean, the calendar is crazy. Right.
That said, there are kind of no easy solutions in
any of this because what we have clearly realized and
this would be the last one, Peter, I know you busy,
then we'll let you go. But like, what we clearly
realized is the friction to me comes into play because
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we had accepted a system that the courts are now
telling us should have been flatly illegal for about one
hundred years. But the whole time we just accept there's
being correct. Right, So now you have this governing body
that no longer has any power to govern, right, And
so it's like, so is the is the only is
the only way to solve this just straight up some
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sort I don't know if it's you know, an actual union,
but some sort of representative group of the players, uh,
a new power structure for some of like college or
college football collective bargaining. Like that's the only way out
of this, right, But that's gonna take a long time
to come about.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You say that because there's still all of these court
cases are going to go for a while. The question
is do you want to get sued into it like
they've been, or do you want to be proactive? Like
if I'm if I'm one of these conferences that's not
the SEC or the Big Ten, what I would probably do?
And you know, I mean the Big twelve? Why am
I blanking on his name? Thet you Ormark Brett or
(23:43):
Mark's at outside the box thinker. If I'm one of
these guys, I'm I'm gonna be the first person to say,
you know what, as a conference, we've we've bargained with
our players or you know, and try to figure it out, like,
give me a reason why I'm not going to go.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
To the SEC or I'm interested in Actually I'm not
going to go to the Big Ten? All right?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
You know why because guess what those conferences they haven't
collected bargain with their players right now, or they haven't
set up a structure. And again I speak that because
you know, I don't know the legal eese behind that.
But if you're the Big Twelve, you're the ACC, or
you're one of these other conferences, you're either gonna get
eventually eaten up to Bob or you're gonna have to
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create so much of a dynamic thought leading process to
shift gears and say, all right, I know the television
money is over there, great, but guess what, here's what
we do over here. And that's that's really the only
truly way you're going to be kind of a leader
in my mind going forward.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, It's the great disappointment of Charlie Baker to me
is that he had such an opportunity to try to
take this thing and be transformative, and instead he just
kind of tried to hold onto a sinking ship.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
But I don't don't I don't even know Tibob if
if he had that opportunity to do that, like, I mean,
that's some fair I think he wanted to, like like
Immert and those guys had that opportunity and they thought, hey, listen,
the courts will save them. And I think everybody thinks
Congress will eventually settle something after this election is done,
because nobody wants to tip their hand right now. But
after the election, I think people are going to go
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back and look at it and go, Okay, we got
four years of whoever. Now let's let's let's get this
in and figure out and and kind of save them.
The model or not save it.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Whatever they do.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, it's to me it's weird because like, I've never
seen anything more bipartisan on a smaller level than making
it easier to pay kids through an IL like it
is the only thing LA legislature is a joke. And
yet if they hear that Florida passed the law that
you have to match for recruiting, like, it gets done immediately.
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So I just I find it tough to think that
that federally like federal representatives would want to go against that.
But but we'll see. I think we lost PB.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I'm here, huh, I'm here. Oh okay, tell me.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Start getting into to the government talk and and legal
and like nil stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I just zone out.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So that was on PC. I know. I know that's
bad on me for letting get here. Hey look, Peter,
thank you so much. Man. Give me your most impressive
spring game that you saw this entire spring season.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I mean again, which team got juiced up the most
from from what you saw? Yeah, I actually this is
going to be shocking. But Mississippi State and Jeff Levy,
the Blake shaping kid from Gaylor, and he put up
some good numbers. And you know, I just I don't,
you know, I don't know how good that they'll be
because I don't think they have the death t Bob.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
But also they're going to have some fun. I mean
that egg bowl between him and Lane Kiffin is going
to be a boatload of points. So that's gonna be
another thorn in people's side right now. Defensively, I thatt
A and M looked a little bit better. Of course,
that that's no shock because you have Elko Connor Wegman
still not one hundred percent you know, he's not one
hundred percent YLF, but you know, and to me, Dusty
(27:00):
Vorcheck said, listen, he called the LSU game, and he's like, dude,
they can get any semblance of defense.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
This offense is going to be explosive. But I mean again,
I mean, hell, we've heard that before. But I'm fired up. Man,
I just live in Levy.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
When he got the jobs, like, I mean, we'll score
some fucking points. He need to promise wins. He's like,
I mean, I can guarantee you.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Think about lanes.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
First season college football fools in here. He goes, did
you just say Mississippi stated, I'm like, yeah, because the
reason why I said it is like, who has juice?
Was there juice when Zach Garnett was there? Not not
necessarily that he was put in a really tough spot
after after coach Leech. And so it's like, all right,
does the fan base believe like that's all of a
spring game? It's four is hey, you want to make
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sure everybody stays healthy, you want to learn a little
bit about those guys, But also did you fire up
a fan base? And I can say Mississippi State fans
are sitting there going all right, well, we might actually
have a little offense right now. But again, the Texas
thing is going to be monumental to watch. And my
last thing I'll leave with is I watched Quinn's body
(28:04):
language in the second half of that game and after
this because I just kind of was like, man, this
is awkward. You got archs and you got nine thousand
people looking for his autograph. He just threw for three
hundred yards three touchdowns, and my guy might as well
have just been smoking a cigarette, like yeah, we're good.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
This He was chill.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You could just tell he was a leader, and he
was like, yeah, man, I went two for three today,
it's fine. Yeah, arts was great, Like it it was fine.
So it's not the as we come full circle. It's
not the chaos that everybody wants it to be in
the storyline.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
So no. I mean again, if you're a Longhorn fan,
that was a great day for you.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You've got great insurance this season, and it looks like
you should be strong for years to come. Peb thank
you so much. You are the man. Thank you for
joining us here today. I hope you have a wonderful day.
My friend.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I'm just so glad I had to do it and
Aaron wasn't here like this.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, I had to look at his face and.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Went the fuck out of here. Dude, h all right, man,
hit him straight. Whenever you play golf next, that's you know,
I'm trying to be a golf guy. All right. Later
it do all right, Look, guys, that's good in pretty
much via for today. I apologize A lot of people
are like. Somebody had one of my favorite quotes and
comments ever early he said, it looks like t Bomps
living through a Tarantino movie right now, but was forced
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going on me today. I never get migraines I've had
like a awful headache all day. I said, I don't
know what's going on. I partied pretty hard all week
and long, so likely it has something to do with
that Ben's college, did say Archman and has those Sith
looking iebags going on? Uh? Yeah, I did not. I
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didn't really notice that til you point out he's got
maor Anakin in Revenge of the Sith vibes going down.
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Huh oh, okay, interesting, I didn't do I should talk
into my mic. What's up, y'all? What's going on? T Bob? Here,
we'll be to a brand get in here that Aaron
is out today. Aaron's going to charity golf tournament, which
we love to see. And I forgot to start with
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our countdown video. So here we are. We're live. As
you can see. I am at home. The office that
I normally do my work out of the internet was down.
It's been a weird ass day, y'all. I've had a
bit of a migraine. I don't normally get headaches like this.
I don't know what happened. Something went down though, I
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don't know. I don't know. It's been a weird day.
But I'm excited for today's show. Maybe a little bit
of a quicker show today. A lot of craziness here
going on in the home front. But we got Peter
Burns stopping by in a couple of minutes and peeb
uh Will. We're gonna break down a lot of the
Texas spring game with Peter, which if you haven't seen it, well,
(01:11):
I mean, look the spring games out with the watch.
But I would say go hunt down. Go if you're
into this, and if you're listening to snaps you likely are, Uh,
go hunt down the God. I told you all my
brain's how working today? What's going on? Oh? Go hunt
down the arch Man in highlights of every throw that
he made. He did, he did, he did fantastic. My
(01:34):
Theoreum offer still stands. Team offs is college footle for
I don't remember the Ethereum offer. Uh the popas tep
you need help the backgrounds? No, really let me know.
I I absolutely will, and I know Ben you've offered
as well. Look into that. I I normally have a
picture of the gold Shire in or lines pried End
from Wow in the background, but I would not. It
would not let me. Uh for some reason, it would
(01:57):
not let me do it. Uh wait, wait, wait, okay,
hold on, hold on though, hold on, hold on as
I wait a little bit for Peb to get here.
Let's try this. And I figured it out. It's not
the Lions pried in, but maybe so coming up we'll
see arch leaders shoot arch haters losing their shit, says
(02:19):
Texas Rocks. Yeah yeah, I mean if you were on
the arch manning's not actually that good. Uh, Bandwagon Yeah,
you're you're having a bad day today after Saturday m bokinny.
Isn't Peter Birds went until you show up on your
own show. Yeah, I believe that was true as well
one time. But hey, you know what, forgive and forget.
(02:43):
Uh But yeah, look, here's what I'll say about Arch.
I watched every thrilly major in spring. I did not
watch the entire spring game, but I thought Arch Manning
looked objectively really damn good. The number was a great
It's it's like nineteen to twenty four so long, and
(03:03):
I've adds like three fifty three touchdowns. Numbers are what
they are, though they could have been even more impressive.
He had a four touchdown. There was an absolute beautiful
dart to Isaiah Bond that Bond ended up dropping. That
would have increased it across the port. But the numbers
are five. But I've seen people get up put up
good numbers in spring games. It's how he looked putting
up the numbers. I saw a young quarterback who was
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going through all of his progressions right, who was very
comfortable in the pocket. His footwork was excellent as he
navigated the pocket, as he would influence the rush I
saw a quarterback that was taking what the defense was
giving him. And that's a bit interesting to speak on
because normally when we think about taking what the defense
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is giving them, like it could be code speak, right,
We have a lot of code speak when it comes
to college football. I a guy's sneaky athletic. He's probably
a white guy that has a little bit of speed
to him and his workout word all. That's kind of
the very cliche ones that you go to. Taking what
the defense giving you is generally code speak for a
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quarterback that is just going to check down and be
conservative at all costs. I am not saying that when
I say about an arch Manning, I mean it legitimately.
When he had to check down, he did. But when
the defense would offer him chunks, he was able to
consistently find those. And then when the defense well for
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him massive deep balls seventy five yard touchdowns, he pretty
consistently found those. He looked really comfortable to screen game,
very good on all of his quick throws to arm
angles that he was able to get it out from. Again,
I told you really like the positive pocket presses of footwork,
and when you're talking about great quarterback play. It ultimately
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comes down to two things decision making and accuracy. Do
you know where to put the ball and then can
you put like like you know the correct person to
throw too, and then can you throw it to the
correct area once you're throwing to that person. And I
saw that in spades out of Arch Maanning in that
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spring game on Saturday. See I think Texas. I don't
want to be clear about this. I almost feel a
bit like I almost feel a bit cheesy and doing
a take like this because I feel like everybody's rushing
to get out of take like this, and to me,
I feel like you'd have to be It's it's just
a conversation I don't think has a lot of legitimacy. Legitimacy,
(05:36):
so it's almost like I don't want to bring it up,
but it's it's the it's the quarterback controversy thing, right,
is there a controversy? Is our quarterback controversy at Texas?
After this great spring game performance from Archmanning and no, no,
very clearly Quinn yours is the guy and will be
the guy this upcoming season. Your biggest takeaway have nothing
(05:58):
to do with the controversy. If you're a Texas fan
listening the right now, your biggest takeaway should be that, well, A,
it seems like you have a really solid insurance plan
for this season. Should Quinn Suvern injury as he did
last year at some point during the year. Also, you
have a guy who had that You're very excited about
his potential now, even more so than you were before,
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and every rep that he's able to get this year
will only make it better for the future. Probably your
biggest taway though, is that you look like you should
be really good at quarterback now for years to come.
Right this year with viewers, who will probably be the
top quarterback picked, then maybe two more years with Arch
after that. And I would also say this about Arch,
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what a difference from last year's spring game to this
year's spring game. And again this is something obvious. Well, yeah, duh,
of course, right, Like last year's spring game, he'd been
there a couple of weeks. He should have still been
in high school, Like, it's very tough to go out
there and perform, and he was like five or thirteen.
But a lot of people watching every Arch there last
year used that as a launch of bad to be like, oh,
(07:02):
he's overrated. He's not that guy, He's not this or that. Well,
look at him this year because if you just compare
the two games, the growth is massive, which I also
think is a big win for Steve Sarkisian. As you know,
he is thought to be one of the premier offensive
minds in college football today, and watching Arch's growth from
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last year to this year is well, it speaks to
Sarkisian being able to train not just one guy to
be really good like a Quinn youwers, but to be
able to train guys for years to come. Here the
only question I have, and this one I really want
to chop it up with PB about who oh there
he is right here? Oh there we go, Peter. What's up, dude?
(07:46):
What's going on? Man? Can you hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm just trying to figure out get all the tech
to where Quinn is transferring to now that Arch is
won the Heisman right right?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's it's funny. I mean I just talked about it.
It's like I feel a little I almost don't want
to engage with it because it's like, ah, like there
because there is no controversy, right, like we all know
if I'm a Texas fan, I should just be really
happy because I feel like I should be excited for
the next like four years now.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
In theory, right, I mean, I'm there, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I did the I did the spring game with Brian Robinson,
and we were doing the pregame and postgame for Longhorn Network,
and we look at each other kind of like, oh,
you know, kind of joking around. After he throws the
first pass for seventy five yards just on an absolute dime,
We're like.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Here it is controversy, ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And then we kind of look at each other like
the next you know, like two prizes later, we're like okay,
And then like he keeps going and going and throwing
dome at your dime, and we're like, this is is
a thing?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Right? Is this not a thing? Is it a thing?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Like I you know, and and ultimately it is going
to be a thing right one way or another. Like
I understand, I'm interested in the fact of, Hey, do
we want to talk about it? Do we not want
to talk about it? You have to talk about it
if for no other reason there's there's you know, history
behind it. Look at Jalen hurts into a tongue of
Ailoa like, both of those guys are successful NFL quarterbacks,
(09:06):
they are successful collegiate quarterbacks, and they were in the
same room and at some point Nick had to make
a decision to go with Tua, went with the second
half the Georgia game. He won a national championship. It
may never come down to that, and I think the
most but they have that option. And I also think
it's a credit to not just Sarka developing because I
(09:27):
I love what you said about you know how he
developed Arch. But it's also a credit to Arch in
his support system of going, hey, let's go old school.
Not to start day one, I need to make a
X amount of money in nil. It is hey, get
your feet wet on campus, learn what it takes to
live in Austin, which is a whole different ball of wax.
(09:47):
I don't care where you're from Austin and being the
big man on campus like he is, it's a different world.
And get bigger, get stronger, get faster, and make it comfortable.
That happened with Eli, it happened with Peyton, and now
I think we're gonna see it with Arch. It's almost
like the throwback how you see quarterbacks and develop t
Bob back back in the day when we love college
football rather than the new world that we have now.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Well, it's it's kind of funny because we had this
discussion on the show the other day. It's like, I
feel like kids nowadays just to go full old man
sounding like it's it's just increasingly rare that anybody shows
up and knows like, Okay, I'm not gonna play. And
I was just using my own experience as kind of
(10:30):
launching point for the conversation, because like, I grew up
a hard corel Shoe fan, so it's really cool to
get to go to LSU. But that first year, like, yeah,
I knew, like no, no, no, I'm gonna go, I'm in
a red shirt GONNW scout team, gonna get bigger, stronger,
like learn the game. And so it's kind of awesome
for me because I just felt like a fan that
got front row tickets to every game, Like I would
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put sunflower seeds in my gloves and put my helmet
behind the bitch and I'd be chilling there like I
had front row seats, just loving it. And Arch, yeah,
it kind of a throwback. He did that as well,
and so Bo Katty the Chad says, if the last
name wasn't Manning, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.
He looked good. There's no controversy in the hype around
his last name. So this is where I disagree. I mean, obviously,
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obviously the name is unavoidable, and yes it does push
this to the four. But if you just looked at
the film, like I said, it was elite level quarterback play.
It was good decision making, It was checking down when
he had to, It was clearly working through his progressions.
It was chunk plays. It was accuracy either it was
some dropballs it could have made it better, it was
(11:33):
different arm angles like. It was just objectively a really
damn good performance. And here here's here's what I wanted
to ask you against.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It was also against a secondary that was ranked one
hundredth last year and they're still trying to figure out
who the hell that they have as well too.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You know that was gonna be the next question, the
eternal camp paradox, Right, is this more about the offense
being good or the defense being bad? For Texas?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's a little bit of both. It's whatever you want
to take out of it. But I you know, if
I'm sark, I want to make sure that I'm ripping
what am I known for it. I'm known for having
good quarterback play and explosive offense. Right, And with the
amount of wide receiver churn and turnover that they had
with Xavier Worthy in others going to the league, is that, Hey,
what was it going to look like with Isaiah Bond there,
(12:19):
with Ny Black there, with with you know, Ryan Wingo,
the five star recruit who was damn very impressive off
the bat. What's this going to look like? And it
looked good. I would rather have that tape much like
LSU's tape last year, the secondary being horrendously bad and
you had an explosive offense. All right, this is what
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we need to work on in the rest of the
fall or of the transfer portal. Maybe we don't have
the guys like I left the spring game thinking, not
only does the Texas have the best quarterback room in
the country, but they might have one of the deepest
wide receiver corps as well, And that's impressive. You can
fix the secondary to a certain extent, and you don't
need to be the damn eighty five Bears. You need
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to have a top sixty defense to be able to
win a national championships as explosive as that offense could be.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
That's funny because those are the same internal conversations we
had with like okay, if if LSU is going to
break through, like what's the level? And like top fifty
I think is to cut off that I attached that,
but I think Texas offen is gonna be slightly better.
So top sixty would I think, I think be accurate there.
Let me ask you an SEC wide question here PB
(13:28):
that I find to be pretty fascinating. Let's say there
are three playoff spots. And I've been asking this of
all our guests pretty much, but let's say there's three
playoff spots for the SEC that there absolutely could be four.
We're gonna go ahead and get Georgia one automatically, right
in my own book, I'll give all a go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I don't know, I mean, I mean, Georgia is now
what the fact that it's the gold standard, right, I mean,
and especially you know, with Michigan losing as much as
they've lost, you sit there and go all right, it's
gonna be Georgian.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Who else?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Much like for a long time we talked about, you know,
Alabama being the hey this is and then who else
is going to get that?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So you're gonna say Georgia's one.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So Georgia immediately takes up a slot. I kind of
been leaving towards giving Alabama automatic one, but let's do
this or this, So then you got Alabama, Texas, Ole,
Miss Miszoo lsu in a Seed thinks they're in that
crew for sure as well am I missing anyone? The
point is there's like a lot of very legitimate candidates
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and just like not a lot of oxygen in the room.
So if you're scoring your top three going into the season,
who are you giving the.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Benefit of it out to Georgia one, Texas two, and
Ole Miss three. I mean, I feel like Old Miss
in the way that they've brought to this thing together,
is in better shape than Alabama is right now, especially
at the quarterback, and that's not a you know, I
would think Jaylen Milroe can get a little bit better.
But there's also a reason why Isaiah Bond had an
opportunity to be the stud I mean, Isaiah Bond had
one of the greatest catches in SEC history, right the
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Grave Keeger route against Auburn. He could have stayed at Alabama.
He could have waited and saw that Calen de Bor
has had the explosive offenses and look at what he
did with Roma Dunsay and all that guy and be
the legend. Like he could have retired even if he
never played NFL football and just sold Iron Bowl T
shirts on that for his life and done insurance and
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you have been fine. And he was like, no, I
want to make a business decision. I want to go
to Texas. No, I Black did the same exact thing.
So to me, Texas is coming in at number two,
and you've got old Missus sitting at number three. I
think Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, all those other cats are going
to be behind him right now. Doesn't mean that even
Missouri doesn't mean they can't catch lightning in a bottle.
But those are the top three right now.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, I guess the only thing about Alabama is man,
I just cannot escape the Kailin de Bor factor. I mean,
the guy's resumes as untouchable as yell are fine anywhere.
He's obviously got more talent you've ever seen anywhere. I
thought coming out of the spring game, I thought it
looked like a hard hitting spring game. I mean paths
pop and physical, and that looks like a team to
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me that is going to be built through running the
ball and do great o' line play and then kind
of trying to put Jalen Milroe in positions to take
advantage of that supreme memtholeticism. I may maybe maybe I'm
just too I don't know, if you called Stockholm syndrome, like,
I don't know, maybe it just runs too yes, maybe
maybe my trauma runs too deep, pebe. But I just
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it's so hard to pre put even Texas over Alabama
for me. And that's after they go into just schose
last year and when.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I mean, listen, I understand that I'm gonna get bent
over by the irs every single year, right, and so
like like you just prepare for certain things, and Alabama
being a college football playoff team, especially when there's twelve
teams in the College Football Playoff is the same way,
like you just it's death taxes in Alabama. That's traditionally
what it is right now, but I have to see
it and because everybody else has gotten better, right, everybody
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else has, I would say, if you're talking about the
net increases of Ole Miss versus the net decreases of
what Alabama lost starting with Nick Saban. It's more of
a deficiency of what Alabama loss is a game changer,
and again they could they could still have a hell
of a season. I mean, we didn't even talk about
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if Connor Wegman is healthy at A and M and
Mike Elcho squad. I think they're a little bit more
in that kind of B tier of the SEC. But
I thought about it today. Can you imagine a scenario
where it's nine and two Texas nine and two Texas
A and M in Kyle Field for the first time
that they've played in over a decade with a college
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football playoff? But my nipples are hard just thinking about it.
I'm excited to think that's a possibility of it. And
then Brent Vinnibles is like, bro, remember me, I'm over
here as well too, Like it's it's gonna remind me.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, and like we didn't even mention Oklahoma. And then
and then no one even feels that compelled to be like,
but what about Oklahoma because there's just kind of doubt
there right now? Yeah, I agree, college football fool. Peter
gets the show. There we go mentioning hard Knips absolutely
gets it. Hey, TB, how about this quick little sojourn
(18:18):
look at me and you dude, just a couple of
gymnastics Natty champs chopping it up.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah about Paul Skins and Livy Dunn living the best
like life of it. I had Jake Clark, the LSU
gymnastics coach, on the on My Serious XM show this morning,
and he was awesome and he was just talked about like, hey, man,
like when I rolled to Baton Rouge, I came from Georgia.
I didn't know if I'd like this place, and he's like,
d d bro was basically almost quit and yeah, was
(18:44):
like the hell you're quitting. And so it's a it's
a good time, man, good time down there.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
We we talked to Jay this morning as well, and
it was pretty uh, pretty fantastic. But yeah, for those
that don't know LSU Gymnastics winning the Natty over the weekend,
and yes you all know Livy done, her and Pulse
schemes are together, but now have Natty rings and skiings.
Is we looked it up today. He has thrown six
times is the amount of one hundred mile per hour
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pitches that has any other starter in all of baseball.
So LSU's power couple continues to only get more powerful. Peter,
let's talk about other spring games around the country. I
think Ohio State is a pretty interesting one. Actually, Hold
before we do that, let's talk about spring games conceptually,
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because you see'll miss and they do more of like
a Pro Bowl type fun and you know just just
fun games.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Is a glass spring game? Yeah, that's what it was, right,
And I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Is that the future of spring games? Should it be?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
No, because the future of spring games is no longer
going to be spring games. Sooner or later, when they
do revenue sharing with the college athletes, I think what
they'll end up doing is actually playing damn games. I
think that they'll play a LSU might play, you know,
Louisiana Tech, WHOA, you might play Georgia Southern or something
like that and go put it on television.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I mean again, if you're going to say, if you're
going to have a game, why not actually have a game?
Some teams can do it, some teams can't. But all
of a sudden, if you came up there and you
had a spring jamboreo, showcase and we got to watch
those games. That's what you'll see.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And I, you know, I there's I was surprised.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Like with Sark, we talked to him earlier in the
week and Sark's like, listen, I got enough depth. I'm
gonna play a regular football game.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I need that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And if transfer out, guys transfer out, but then we'll
transfer guys back in. Like it's no big deal. But
for Lane and those guys, I don't knock their version
of the Spring game as well conceptually, because hey, you
don't want to put on tape anything for anybody right now,
and you don't want to sit there and go all right, well, hey,
(20:53):
I got brought in here to transfer to Ole Miss
and I was the fourth guy to catch a ball
in the second half, and all of a sudden, I
got eight voicemails from collectives and agencies going, hey, man,
just let you know we saw you or we didn't
see you in the spring game. You could come start
with us from the fall. Let me let me collect
you know, connect you with my collective guys. So I
(21:15):
see both sides of the equation right now. That's why
I say screw it. Just start playing other teams. And
let it and do a revenue share and with the players.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, I mean it is interesting, like you said, like
it's it's it is. It's so situational that getting into
oh this is gonna be everywhere. It's just it's just
hard to say either way. Like, of course you look
at LSU and defensively, they don't want to show anything.
They got Blake Baker and everybody like, no, they're just
gonna run base the whole time. Because what's going to
be a great advantage going into USC, and USC has
(21:44):
the same advantage completely we're working their defense, right, Both
these super similar squads are going to be squaring off
Week one in Vegas, and neither want did you give
up any information to the other? Uh okay, so.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Let's cluster f by the way that we end up
having the transfer portal the way that it did, I
mean even even even the transfer portal for college basketball
as well, right, I mean like literally there could have
been there could have been a player that made the
Sweet sixteen, and at some point says, listen, if you
don't collect hook me up at the collective right now,
I'm not going to go play in the Elite eight game.
I mean and the and they literally could have put
their name in the transfer portal.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So so so it's it. I mean, the calendar is crazy. Right.
That said, there are kind of no easy solutions in
any of this because what we have clearly realized and
this would be the last one, Peter, I know you busy,
then we'll let you go. But like, what we clearly
realized is the friction to me comes into play because
(22:40):
we had accepted a system that the courts are now
telling us should have been flatly illegal for about one
hundred years. But the whole time we just accept there's
being correct. Right, So now you have this governing body
that no longer has any power to govern, right, And
so it's like, so is the is the only is
the only way to solve this just straight up some
(23:04):
sort I don't know if it's you know, an actual union,
but some sort of representative group of the players, uh,
a new power structure for some of like college or
college football collective bargaining. Like that's the only way out
of this, right, But that's gonna take a long time
to come about.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You say that because there's still all of these court
cases are going to go for a while. The question
is do you want to get sued into it like
they've been, or do you want to be proactive? Like
if I'm if I'm one of these conferences that's not
the SEC or the Big Ten, what I would probably do?
And you know, I mean the Big twelve? Why am
I blanking on his name? Thet you Ormark Brett or
(23:43):
Mark's at outside the box thinker. If I'm one of
these guys, I'm I'm gonna be the first person to say,
you know what, as a conference, we've we've bargained with
our players or you know, and try to figure it out, like,
give me a reason why I'm not going to go.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
To the SEC or I'm interested in Actually I'm not
going to go to the Big Ten? All right?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
You know why because guess what those conferences they haven't
collected bargain with their players right now, or they haven't
set up a structure. And again I speak that because
you know, I don't know the legal eese behind that.
But if you're the Big Twelve, you're the ACC, or
you're one of these other conferences, you're either gonna get
eventually eaten up to Bob or you're gonna have to
(24:25):
create so much of a dynamic thought leading process to
shift gears and say, all right, I know the television
money is over there, great, but guess what, here's what
we do over here. And that's that's really the only
truly way you're going to be kind of a leader
in my mind going forward.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, It's the great disappointment of Charlie Baker to me
is that he had such an opportunity to try to
take this thing and be transformative, and instead he just
kind of tried to hold onto a sinking ship.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
But I don't don't I don't even know Tibob if
if he had that opportunity to do that, like, I mean,
that's some fair I think he wanted to, like like
Immert and those guys had that opportunity and they thought, hey, listen,
the courts will save them. And I think everybody thinks
Congress will eventually settle something after this election is done,
because nobody wants to tip their hand right now. But
after the election, I think people are going to go
(25:17):
back and look at it and go, Okay, we got
four years of whoever. Now let's let's let's get this
in and figure out and and kind of save them.
The model or not save it.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Whatever they do.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, it's to me it's weird because like, I've never
seen anything more bipartisan on a smaller level than making
it easier to pay kids through an IL like it
is the only thing LA legislature is a joke. And
yet if they hear that Florida passed the law that
you have to match for recruiting, like, it gets done immediately.
(25:47):
So I just I find it tough to think that
that federally like federal representatives would want to go against that.
But but we'll see. I think we lost PB.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I'm here, huh, I'm here. Oh okay, tell me.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Start getting into to the government talk and and legal
and like nil stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I just zone out.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So that was on PC. I know. I know that's
bad on me for letting get here. Hey look, Peter,
thank you so much. Man. Give me your most impressive
spring game that you saw this entire spring season.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I mean again, which team got juiced up the most
from from what you saw? Yeah, I actually this is
going to be shocking. But Mississippi State and Jeff Levy,
the Blake shaping kid from Gaylor, and he put up
some good numbers. And you know, I just I don't,
you know, I don't know how good that they'll be
because I don't think they have the death t Bob.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
But also they're going to have some fun. I mean
that egg bowl between him and Lane Kiffin is going
to be a boatload of points. So that's gonna be
another thorn in people's side right now. Defensively, I thatt
A and M looked a little bit better. Of course,
that that's no shock because you have Elko Connor Wegman
still not one hundred percent you know, he's not one
hundred percent YLF, but you know, and to me, Dusty
(27:00):
Vorcheck said, listen, he called the LSU game, and he's like, dude,
they can get any semblance of defense.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
This offense is going to be explosive. But I mean again,
I mean, hell, we've heard that before. But I'm fired up. Man,
I just live in Levy.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
When he got the jobs, like, I mean, we'll score
some fucking points. He need to promise wins. He's like,
I mean, I can guarantee you.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Think about lanes.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
First season college football fools in here. He goes, did
you just say Mississippi stated, I'm like, yeah, because the
reason why I said it is like, who has juice?
Was there juice when Zach Garnett was there? Not not
necessarily that he was put in a really tough spot
after after coach Leech. And so it's like, all right,
does the fan base believe like that's all of a
spring game? It's four is hey, you want to make
(27:42):
sure everybody stays healthy, you want to learn a little
bit about those guys, But also did you fire up
a fan base? And I can say Mississippi State fans
are sitting there going all right, well, we might actually
have a little offense right now. But again, the Texas
thing is going to be monumental to watch. And my
last thing I'll leave with is I watched Quinn's body
(28:04):
language in the second half of that game and after
this because I just kind of was like, man, this
is awkward. You got archs and you got nine thousand
people looking for his autograph. He just threw for three
hundred yards three touchdowns, and my guy might as well
have just been smoking a cigarette, like yeah, we're good.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
This He was chill.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You could just tell he was a leader, and he
was like, yeah, man, I went two for three today,
it's fine. Yeah, arts was great, Like it it was fine.
So it's not the as we come full circle. It's
not the chaos that everybody wants it to be in
the storyline.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
So no. I mean again, if you're a Longhorn fan,
that was a great day for you.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You've got great insurance this season, and it looks like
you should be strong for years to come. Peb thank
you so much. You are the man. Thank you for
joining us here today. I hope you have a wonderful day.
My friend.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I'm just so glad I had to do it and
Aaron wasn't here like this.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, I had to look at his face and.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Went the fuck out of here. Dude, h all right, man,
hit him straight. Whenever you play golf next, that's you know,
I'm trying to be a golf guy. All right. Later
it do all right, Look, guys, that's good in pretty
much via for today. I apologize A lot of people
are like. Somebody had one of my favorite quotes and
comments ever early he said, it looks like t Bomps
living through a Tarantino movie right now, but was forced
(29:19):
to the show. I don't know what the fuck is
going on me today. I never get migraines I've had
like a awful headache all day. I said, I don't
know what's going on. I partied pretty hard all week
and long, so likely it has something to do with
that Ben's college, did say Archman and has those Sith
looking iebags going on? Uh? Yeah, I did not. I
(29:39):
didn't really notice that til you point out he's got
maor Anakin in Revenge of the Sith vibes going down.
But look if you have been no so some some
show production notes here, uh YouTube dot com, slash at
Snap's CFP on his corp snaps yp. We'll get it there.
The the podcast my fault. Last couple of episodes have
(30:04):
not been I have not been put up yet. We are,
I am I should fingers crossed have that done by tomorrow.
If I guess it's just a little it's a little
wild right now. It doesn't matter. I don't need to
get into it, but just be able to cover that.
(30:24):
That will get fixed. Do not worry about that. And
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