July 10, 2025 • 38 mins
It seems like every year there’s another nasty social media debate about the presence of women in gay bars and darkrooms. But Gabe and Chris are sick of gay bros who think gay bars should be exclusively gay boy spaces. In this hilariously filthy episode, Crush and Frankie, a bisexual M-F content creator couple who go cruising together, make a case for why women should be welcomed, not shunned, in gay bars, and yes, even sex spaces, then offer tips and tricks for respectful interactions on both sides.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, viewers, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about
queer sex. Filter dirty words and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities.
If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more
offends your sensibilities, you might want to skip this. Viewer
discretion is advised. It's definitely not for kids.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
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jr pussy, put put Jo busy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm Gabeln Sadez and I'm Christotison Rosso.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Each week, we explore the sublime world of queer sex, cruising,
and relationships.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We talk to queer folks of all kinds. We'll ask
some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations, and provide
practical advice that you can use at home.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Let Jo put joust job put job.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Okay, So today we're doing it. Okay, we're dipping our
toes into the discourse. Before we dive into today's episode,
we'll need to read you a I'm apologizing in advance, Chris,
would you mind reading this for us?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'll do my best. Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
So the quote reads, why are you as a woman
stepping foot in a gay bar dark room. There's nothing
for you here.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh wow, this is a real emergency.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Someone please call my own one because this episode.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
There's a woman in the dark room. Okay, So some
of our favorite replies to the message we just read
include god forbid, a woman has hobbies. That was a
good one. Another one was on a dirty floor on
your knees, kate out with a stranger's dick in your mouth.
But a girl coming in is where you draw the line.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
It is supporting my trade as he explores his bisexuality, a.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Great reason to be in the dark room, And my
personal favorite, fondly remembering the time a woman walked by
my then boyfriend eating me out at a circuit party
and pushed his head in deeper. Thanks for the assist, queen.
Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean, that's Ally's ship, that's Ali.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Ship, that's real.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And other people pointed out the irony of having sex
in a public place and being mad that other people
were there.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, and look, this post in particular was probably rage bait,
get retweets, be honest. It feels like some op ed
or social media post along these lines. Pops up every
couple of years and it goes viral and it starts
the same reductive discourse, and we're exhausted.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And to be clear, we're not talking about a messy
bachelorette party, touching people inappropriately or dropping gayzlers. That's its
unute problem. But that's really about someone's behavior. But by
assuming any woman or of him presenting person doesn't belong
in a dark room or at a gay bar or
even on Sniffy's, that's not about their behavior, it's about
who they are exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Also, not everyone is there for you. If you want
a room full of CIS gay men, go hang out
at Azara. This has been a constant debate and struggle
within the queer community. Somebody I think back to is
Cynthia Slater. She's an activist in San Francisco in the
seventies and she actually worked to petition a gay fisting
bar called the Catacombs to let in women. She's like,
(02:51):
I'm a woman, I'm into fisting. Yeah, let us the
fuck in. She finally got the Catacombs to allow women
to enter the space to the fisters. She gathered knowledge
and information and then she brought it back to lesbians
outside of the Catacombs outside of San Francisco, and was
one of the very influential people started kind of the
S and M movement among queer women.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, so like if she hadn't gone to these spaces,
it wasn't allowed in these spaces, none of that would
have happened.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
If that hadn't happened, rightly, right, And we would assume
that we want to share queer knowledge.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
We do.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
If you're good at fisting, yeah, show it off, share
that information. We don't want people fisting poorly. But like,
this is like over fifty years ago at this point,
you know what I mean. So it's like, why are
we still still having this conversation exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, in today's episode, we're going to talk about women
in gay spaces and why it could be more fun
to welcome the men than to freak out about it.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Let's meet our guests.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Russian Frankie are a very fun, adventurous couple who make
adult content and live life on their own terms. They
travel the world together, filming their experiences hooking up with
very hot people in all kinds of amazing places, from
busy cities to quiet beaches.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
With real chemistry and a love for new adventures. Question
Frankie keepings raw, real and exciting for themselves and for
their audience. Walk to Snipy's Cruising Confessions crushing frank You
all right, we.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Got the cutest couple we've had increasing Confession's history here
and wet wo. Sorry buddy, it used to be me
and Chris.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Coming for a gig. So let's get into your story.
How did y'all meet?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Okay, so my gay friend he came over in my
apartment and he showed me a flyer from the strip
club he worked at.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
He's like, we're gonna go see him.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I was like, damn, okay.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
So I got dressed and we went out to the club,
and you know, I'm very nervous about making people feel
uncomfortable in certain spots that I'm at, So I'm like,
I just kind of sat at the bar and kind
of minded my own business. You know.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It was a gay bar.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, you want to step on any right, So.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I kept giving him money to go tip him every
time he like did a performance or something like that.
And me and my friend all night, we're trying to
decide if he was gay or straight, because you know,
I didn't know, and I couldn't tell either. You know,
there was no like signs, you know, because there's a
straight man that worked at the gay club, so I
didn't know. Finally I asked him. I was like, so,
you know, are you gay or straight? And his response was.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yes, and I'm like, yeah, correct.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's like that didn't help me at all.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
So then I was like, okay, so you know, thinking like, okay,
maybe he's you know both. By the end of the
night he came over when he put his arm around
my gay friend that I was with, and then he put.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
His arm around me and grabbed my ass and I
was like, okay, this is gonna go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yes he said yes.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
A week later we were fucking, two months later we
were dating, and three months after that we were living together.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So very fast, very fast.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
She's also the first girl I ever told I'm experimenting
sexually yeah, and didn't get a negative response.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
It didn't really matter to me, you know, I was
I go to gay bars, obviously I'm attracted to I
watched gay porn to jerk off.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I haven't met a lot of girls that are like
I always say, it feels like they're tolerating your bisexuality
or porn if you know, could I do gay porn
and straight porn? Transport everything. I feel like there's a
stark difference between tolerating it and being about it. Yeah,
you know, like she is like like she's jerking off
to my porn with other right, Yeah, And if you
(06:31):
could choose between those two, like if my girl tolerating
it and my girl jerking off.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
To me dudes.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
And we talk like it's fun, I could be like,
yo that guys, She's like yeah, like like we'll go fuck.
It's fun that we can talk about that. It's just
not a typical dynamic of a heteronormative relationship, you.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Know, but nothing too Like he made me feel comfortable
about because I was very slashamed, and I was very
you know in a place where I have never explored
my sexuality, and like, finally I was able to talk
that hey, like I've always wanted to experience a trans
woman or like try something other than what I've been
doing all my life, and like he didn't judge me
(07:13):
for it, so it made me feel more comfortable that, hey,
I can finally feel free, and I do. I never
felt more free and just accepted in any situation ever
in my life than you know, being with him.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So it's really great.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, it's amazing how like authenticity breeds authenticity, Right, It's
like you show up as how you want to be
treated and then like you get that in spades.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'm curious with both of you because both of you
are somewhere on the spectrum of like sexual fluidity bisexuality.
You said you've faced a lot of discrimination when you've
told past partners that you are sexually fluid or explored
by sexuality. What do you think makes them react that way?
Like what is it in their life that they've been
told or taught that makes them turned off at the
idea of a partner who is more sexually fluid.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Than they are.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
When I finally like I'm going to be very open
in public about me exploring my sexuality, I was thinking
thing about like my college teammates when I played basketball
and how homophobic we are in the locker room, and
like I participated in that, Like I'm not gonna lie,
Like I said, the no homo thing a lot. You know,
we pointed out gay things to each other, Like what
(08:13):
you're doing there is gay and it's bad. We talked
more about gayshit than gay men. Yeah, for sure, like
looking back at them, like we were so gay.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
In your underwear, Yeah, talking about each other's decks a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Like.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
That's what was going through my head initially as the
people that would probably discriminate me the most, right, it
was other straight conservative men. What I'd never thought about
was what women would react. I actually thought they would
be very accepting because generally women are allies of the
LGBTQ community. They always are the ones at the marches everything.
(08:51):
What I found out was they're cool with you being gay,
they don't want their husband to be. It's like not
in the house, you know what I mean, not at home.
HIV is brought up way more than I ever expected.
Like they always say they're scared of catching HIV from me,
and like I'm not even gonna get into that conversation,
right of how ignorant that is. Or they say things
(09:12):
like I don't want your shitty dick in me, and
I'm like you do anal two right, yeah, And like
I know gay men douch better than you.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Fiber Supplement's bulls got.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
And I just think women haven't been challenged on that
way of thinking yet and maybe it'll come and maybe
like this, you know what we're doing right now is
that process. It's one of the conversations I think that
still needs to happen. Even if you're just like a
mostly straight guy or a fully like fifty to fifty
by guy, there's a lot of like because you haven't
(09:48):
really picked a side.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Sure, yeah, everything's got to be black and white. Everything's
got to be like one hundred, you know.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
And I don't want to do a label. I'm just
gonna be crushed and I'm gonna do what I want
when I want.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
You know. It's been different now talking about it with
my friends and being more able to be open about
it and not caring more what they think, because back
when I was slutshame for liking what I liked, I
just kept it inside and never talked about it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It's very different now.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Like, say I'm talking to a guy and they're like, wow,
you do porn with trans women and like you like
gay guys experience with you. I was like, yeah, like
I love letting someone like try my pussy for the
first time, and like that is so great to me,
and the first time what wasn't the first time that
it happened. We had a clubhouse in Austin and I
(10:41):
was filming a porn for, you know, a few of
my friends, and the way this guy was fucking I
was like, damn, he looks like he fuck's really good.
I was like, I wish I want to try him.
And he was gay guy, so I didn't ever think,
you know, that would happen. And we walk out of
our little cabinary. He's standing right by the fence line
and Crushed goes, hey, do you want to fuck her?
(11:01):
And he goes he goes yeah, and I was like, okay,
let's do it. So he like bent me over the
picking table and then star fucking me. Crush pulls out
the camera and all of our other gay friends started
lining up.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And I was like, I guess this is turning into
a gay gang bang. And it's been one of my
best sellers ever since.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
It's all hot guys, and then like it looks like
a straight gang bang. Yeah, but then the hot guys
are jerking each other off in the background and making
out and they're like eating pussy together, which like there's
something when the because they're gay and more comfortable, Like
when they eat the pussy together, it's better.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
It's not like they're trying to.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Like, you know, because there's no fear of being gay,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
When I talk to guys like at the strip club
who are in hiding basically and they want to experience,
and like when they feel me talking about my fluidity
and like how I feel, all of a sudden, they
feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Like I've always wanted to be pegged. I've always wanted
to do this. I was like, let's do it, sign
me up.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
And there are a few guys that are also like, oh,
I could never have another guys dick near me. I
was like, well, for the first time I went air tight,
you know, with two trans women and my boyfriend, and
like it was one of the best feelings I've ever had. Yeah,
I never ever thought that I would have all three
holes filled at the same time.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
The culture around sex and the LGBTQ community is what
I really like. And I love that opposite of sluedt
shaming attitude, that sex positivity and like it's just not
that big a deal.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
People are just friendly in the community and like they understand,
like everybody wants to try something and like it's okay
to try something new and you don't have to be like, oh,
I'm gonna stand over here in the corner and feel
bad about what I like.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, And that's the thing that really grinds my gears
about like these complaints about like women or people who
aren't gay men in like dark rooms or queer spaces,
because you don't know why someone's there, right, Like if
you see a woman or from presenting person, maybe they're
there with their partner, Maybe they're interested in fucking and
doing it in a respectful way. Maybe they're thinking of
transitioning and trying to like come into queer spaces if
you don't read them as a man yet, Like, there's
(13:15):
so many reasons someone could be in that space and
for me to see other folks immediately jump to being
like no and cutting them off, it's like this is
a space one of the few spaces where you can
explore your sexuality without judgment, and that should be open
to everybody that wants to explore their sexuality because where
are you or you going to go at a straight
bar to do what you do. It's like you can't
(13:38):
really find that anywhere besides like these dark rooms and
sex parties and you know, working in the industry, how long.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Was it before you started going to bars and like
hunting together ethically.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, pretty quickly moved to a club.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
She opened up to me about the trans yeah, and
I was like, well, yeah, I've done lots of that,
and I was like, I know grave trans bars that
we can go to and a beautiful trans woman she
really was, And.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
We took her in the back and did some dances
and like it turned into only fans club work.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's funny you just show up and suddenly the only
fans collapse. It's an amazing skill.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
We do feel like we're documenting our sexual experiences a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
This archive. You have his history. My first time ever.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Sucking dig is on camera and it's authentic. It wasn't
planned the way people lie.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
About saying they're sucking their first stick on camera all
the time. And you actually.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
It was with Braxton Cruise and he's fucking handsome Australian
man with the most beautiful dick ever. And up until
that point, I pretty much always thought like, sucking dick
isn't really something I think I want to do. Rights
just how I felt and I was eating his ass.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And I started.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I started, I ever thought that I would suck dick,
but eating ass absolutely.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Different. I learned.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I learned long ago that I like asked, it doesn't
matter what. But anyway, I was eating his ass and
his dick was just there, and I was like, it's
a nice dick. I'm gonna put my mouth on it.
And I was like, no, you don't do that. And
then I was just like, why why did I just
do that? I want to do it. And I looked
at her and I'm like, I think I want to
suck his dig.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
This was like early in my porn career and like
only fans career, and so like people kind of already
thought I didn't do that because they thought I was
one of those tops that just don't do it. And
so he was kind of like surprised. He's like, oh really,
and I was like, yeah, you got a nice dick.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I was like, and I sucked it a little bit too.
After that, I was like.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
It was adorable to be fair, because I was literally
like I don't know if I'm going to be good
at this, Like is that good?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Like this is so hot?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
And what I realized after that because I thought I
didn't want to suck dick because I just didn't think
it was something I was into. And afterward I was like, Oh,
the fucking reason was I was still thinking about what
other people would think if they knew I sucked dick,
and I didn't realize it because I was like, oh,
now everyone will know I sucked a dick. Despite how
(16:26):
far I've come, was still thinking that it's like a
degrading thing to do for me, you know, because the
way we talked about sucking dick as straight man in
the locker room was purely from a degrading sense, and
that I hadn't let that go yet.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Fully.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Now it's like I do it all the time. When
I want to like it, I still don't want to.
Sometimes it's not like a thing like yeah, I'm weird
about some things, like I hate my own come. It's
is such a weird alone in that, like I'm just
not come guy. Yeah I love making people come. Yeah
(17:03):
I don't, And like I'd rather have you come on
my chest than me come on my chest.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Okay, how much time do we have? Oh my god,
y'all are a fucking who. We have to take a break.
This is so much fun.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
When we come back, Frankie's gonna share some tips for
girls who want to be in gay spaces, and Crush
will offer some advice for gay dudes who want to
co exist more peacefully with the.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Women in their lives.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I think we can achieve that.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think we can.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I think we can after this conversation, all right, more
Sniffy's cruising confessions after the break, don't go anywhere. Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
We've been talking with bisexual content creator couple Crush and Frankie,
And if you're like us, you are fully obsessed with
them by now.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I would hope, but I'm sure there are some of
you that are still big mad that we are even
talking about women in case spaces, and we're here to
make honestly.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
In this act, we're going to hear some tips and
tricks from both Frankie Crush on how gay guys and
some women can co exist in gay bars and yes,
even dark rooms or picnic table fuck sessions.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
So, frank what would you recommend for a woman who
is interested in going out to a gay bar?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
So in retrospect, like a woman really just needs to
know her place in this community, because like I can
go into a gay bar and act like I'm the
center of attention and people can hate me. Or I
can go into a gay bar and be friends with
the gay bees and like show them how much fun
(18:32):
I want to have with them, instead of making them
feel like they're literally just there as furniture.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I think a lot of women do that. So
just know your place.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
You know, in a bar.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
You're not going to a gay bar to get guys
to buy you drinks. Like all the gay guys are
buying their own drinks. They're not worried about you. Maybe
even offer to buy the gays a drink instead of
making them feel like I'm here, you know what I mean,
because I've been guilty of that. You know, feel like
I should be the center of attention because I'm cute
and I'm pretty, and I'm as pretty as the gays.
(19:04):
You know, like meyern, I center of attention. But you
can't do that in the gay spaces. You really can't
because nobody cares and people are going to be like,
get her out of here. You know, we're tired of
seeing her here. She's too loud, she's obnoxious, you.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Know, it doesn't matter who does that. Though you're not
gonna like it's.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
This is true, Like you can't be my friend. You're
acting like this in this gay bar right now, like
any space. Yeah, it's true, It's very true.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Earlier while we were talking, we did touch a little
bit on how fear of HIV makes some partners fearful
of having a partner in their life who is by
or hooks up with men. But I'm curious how you
guys approach safety and how do you like communicate that
to other partners that y'all are hooking up with.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
I don't think straight people know how much has changed
even in the last ten years when it comes to that.
I didn't even know until a few years ago. And like,
you know, we're both on prep. We're big advocates for it.
We talk about it, we educate, and when we work
with stray creators, it's like we won't shut the fuck
up about it. I'm just like, why why are you
(20:11):
not on it? Testing only does so.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Much, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Like, but even in the beginning of our relationship, like
he was so scared of STDs and like I didn't
go to school the way he went to school.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I quit school eighth grade, so, like.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Yeah, I was taught in the early American school. When
I came to America, one of the first sex education
classes was very much one of those like sex is bad,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, don't have sex.
STDs will murder you, like all of them are going
to kill you.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I grew up in Florida, I know what that's like.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Yeah, this is California. That was what I thought STDs were.
I had to learn that I was very wrong about that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
So freaky. Did you actually start the topic of like
prep and getting tested? Was that something you were more?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I think actually our gay friends did that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
But I think I tried to help him see, like listen,
there's not many STDs nowadays that you can't get rid
of if you do catch something, like I was just
letting him know, like it's okay, Like it's not that
big a deal.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Like right now, nowadays, I've been with I've been with
tons of people that are undetectable. Yes, I don't even
care because I'm like, we're both on prep cares and
like a lot of people would just be too scared
to even do that because they don't. They still are
living in that thing that we were taught. And so
we're both on prep. We both take doxy. You know,
we get tested regularly, which I think in the straight
(21:33):
culture that is still a prevention tactic because like if
I work with straight creators there, they care so much
about the test and making sure it's within fourteen days.
I'm like, really, it's only valid if I got that
test today, and you know, you don't know what I've
done in the last fourteen days. I don't know what
you've done. Also, you're a girl and you have the
worst STD than known the man, which is pregnancy, and.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You can't manage that.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
So I can rather than show me your test because
I'm taking preping doxy, so I don't care what your
test says. Please show me you're on birth control. That's
what I need. Please show me that documentation right now.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
We can't make Daddy Crush a literal father.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Because we can't do that because that's forever. That's a
really good point.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Then again, you know, gays can't get pregnant. Trying a
lot of.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Guys, none of them pregnant when we talked about it.
It's interesting straight people are having a bit of a
rise in HIV.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Not a bait.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Actually, it's a lot. Like it's really starting to pick
up with them, and that's scary because that if that
becomes an epidemic with them would be far worse.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Well, I think I think that is another reason that
in the straight community, more people are scared to talk
about it, and more people.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
It's still such a gross thing.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yeah, more people keep it hidden and don't tell anybody
that they caught something because they're embarrassed, and like the
gay world be like, oh, I had a chlamydia last week.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I got rid of that shit.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
You know. It's like not that I had a big
of a deal.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
I had a girl for that I woke up with
call me like a dirty faggot because I just told
her to get on prep like, because I was just saying, like,
I take this to you can take it as a preventative,
but you can also take it if you have it
to make you undetectable. Right, That's literally all I was saying. Yeah,
she took it as I have HIV and I'm a
dirty faggot basically like.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Florida though, right, Yeah, this wasn't Florida. Yeah, Okay, that's
a lot.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
In New York.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I know, we have a lot of gay they're called
gay bars, but they're really mixed queer spaces, but there
aren't a lot of spaces for queer women. So I'm wondering,
when you guys go out in Texas or when you're
traveling for work, do you see a lot of that
mixture in gay spaces. Do you see a lot of
like queer men and women, or do you find that
it's a little more self segregated in other cities.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
When I would go out in Dallas, I think it
was very, very mixed because a lot of my queer
women friends want to twined with everybody. They don't want
to be stuck at a bar with all people just
like them, you know, and they're super friendly and they
just want to talk with everybody and be friends with everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And that is some of the things that they have.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Told me why they don't like going and staying at
the lesbian bars that is just for them. So I
think it's very mixed in the gay culture in Dallas.
And that was where I kind of started exploring myself
because I finally become single and like just going out
with my gay friends and enjoying the night, not feeling
judged or feeling like I shouldn't be there for me.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
It's like I don't want to be around a bunch
of people exactly like me. You know, I love when
people are into different shit because I want to like
be like, I want to ask questions. I would be like, wait,
you do what it did? What?
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Like?
Speaker 7 (24:44):
That sounds fascinating? Like, you know, I love variety, so like,
the more like diverse we can make it the better.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
In my opinion, there's so many layers to it, right,
It's like you've got queer women, You've got street cis women,
you've got trans women, all entering spaces that are dominated
by gay men, and a lot of these cities, and
I think gay men feel this ownership over that space
without realizing that. It's like, it's not just for us, right,
we should be welcoming a broader array of queer people
or queer allies into these spaces, and as long as
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everybody's being respectful, there shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Be an issue.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
I felt very accepted. In fact, you know, I got
sober and gay aa no way on actual city in
Los Angeles, and I saw a bunch of people outside
of a brick building, drinking coffee out of a styrofolm
cop smoking cigarettes. And I was like, that looks like
one of those AA meetings. And like I was freshly sober,
like broke homeless, like I'm like I should I'm just
(25:38):
gonna go hang out there for a bit. And I
went in and I was like, there's a lot of
gay trans people out here. It was just la like
maybe they just look gay because and at the end
of the meeting, you know, the secretary was like, everybody,
thank you for coming to Friday night LGBTQ meeting. And
I was like, Ohm, not supposed to be here. And
(25:59):
I literally I didn't make a run for the door,
but like this girl, Shelley push old lesbian woman just
grabs me, throws me back in the room. It was
like one hundred and forty five pounds the time. It
was easy like this a tweaker just like just got sober,
throws me back in the room. Is like UNI gets sober,
like I don't give a shit that you're straight, Like
we don't care. This isn't just for gay people, like
it just is a space that we created that was safe,
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but you're welcome here too. I went to that meeting
for the rest of my sobriety while I was YEA,
and I felt so a part of it. Even this
was before I ever identified as anything but straight. I
felt so a part of it and so like part
of that community. And I learned more about being a
grown man and a good man from those people in
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the LGBTQ space in sobriety than I ever did from
any straight person in my entire life. And like, I'm
getting emotional talking about it because I owe my life
to the LGBTQ community for that. So to this day,
I feel like I never had a problem being accepted
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even when I identified a straight and then there was
like the gay for pay phase, and then there was
a I like some of this phase, and not at
any point through any of those phases that I ever
not feel accepted. I think it's a small percentage of
gay people that are not accepting of women or me
being with a woman. But when they do it, my
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first thought is, you're doing the same thing that everyone
did in the sixties eighties. To us, it's just roles reverse.
Now it's your saying you're not gay enough, or like
what we're doing is homophobic, and like that makes no
sense to me.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The conversion therapy is the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
That people accuse you of engaging in conversion therapy for
just showing up.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
So they think because she's sleeping with gay men that
she's trying to convert them to being straight. And that's
our agenda because I guess you know, there's some praian,
some politician injected us into your community and it's texting
us like, hey, go to this are and try to
convert the gaye by making them sleep with her. And
I'm just like, really, that's what you think people. First
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of all, my.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Parents tried that on me for years and I'm still
pretty fucking gay. So I don't know if that strategy
is working.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You need to come hang out with me.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'm gonna start off.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
This by for pay and then, yeah, I don't feel
like an ally. I feel like I'm part of that flag.
Yeah I have the flag, like I identify with it.
I fight for it, not as like another group fighting
for another group, Like I am part of the group.
I feel that way. If you want to tell me
i'm not, that's your issue.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, Well, we are unfortunately nearing the end of
the episode, but Russian Franky, before we let you go,
I'm wondering if there's anything that we haven't talked about
yet that you'll want it to share, or anything you
wanted to touch on before we wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Or like any cruising confession.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh yeah, do you have any cruising confessions?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Well no, I just like you know, here for the story.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
This is one of my first experiments. Okay, that when
I was like, like, I'm gonna try some stuff that's
not straight. This was a few years ago. So actually
the first time I ever experimented was with trans girls.
One of the first transgirls I hooked up with was
in Fort Lauderal. She saw me in the club and
then I was outside and she was with a group
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of gay guys and she walked up to me and
she's this tall, beautiful Columbian trans girl. And she walked
up to me and just puts her hand down my
pants and grabs my balls work and she just goes,
I want to suck your dick. And I was like, okay,
let's let's go. And she's like, where are you staying.
I'm like an airbnbating down the street. She goes, okay,
and so me, her and her friends all start walking
(29:45):
and we get like fifteen steps into the walk and
she's got heels on, you know everything. She's like, I
don't want to walk all the way. And she just
pulled my pants down right there on that street, pulled
my pants down. Lots of people starts blowing me. I
stole my cockering on from dancing everything.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's so hot.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I don't know. I'm like having a sensory overload. It's
kind of new. It's just a public public's another one
of my kinks. And like her gay friends are like
cheering her on and like also helping kind of hide
her at the same time. And I come in her
mouth and she like.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Drools it out of her mouth under her tits, and
I'm like having a bit of a cumcoma, you know
that when it's just like and then her gay friends
come over and started liking the cum off her tits,
and I'm.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Like, this.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Is why we need women in dark rooms, handsucking dick
on the streets. I like all of this, but I.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
I just knew I liked all of it. I couldn't
figure out what about it I liked. I just liked
all of it. From there, I was just like, yeah,
I'm definitely not just going to live the straight life
no more.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
A good time.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I think my one of my favorite times is though,
was with my first collab on camera, having two guys.
It's always been a fantasy, but I've never told anybody.
I've never let anybody know that I wanted somebody to
fuck a man into me. And he made that happen when.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Derek Cage and You've made a Derek Cage sandwich.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
But how it happened was even better because Derek Cage
is just such an amazing human. And I reached out
to Derek Cage and I had, you know, twelve hundred
followers at the time on Twitter, Like I thought, this
guy who just won every award that yere.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Is someone that I work with.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
So I just shoot my shot and it's like, hey,
do you work with nobody's And he was like, you're
not a nobody and I was like okay. So we
set it up and he came over and we ended
up shooting three things like him and Crush Me Crush
and Derek and then just me and Derek.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
It was really a great experience to have Derek and
me and crush fucking him into me, and then Derek
coming on my chest and me shoving his face and
to fucking eat it, and like it was such a
great experience that I had never felt okay to do
or experience or even think that that was ever going
to be something that I would ever try until this motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Oh all right, this has been really, really incredible. I'm
really glad we had you all to talk about some
of themes we want to talk about this episode, But
I think one of the most fun things has been
seeing how you both kind of enabled each other to
become more authentic people, to feel more confident in your sexuality,
to support each other doing that. I think it's like
very very rare, and I think you guys serve as
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a really great example that not every couple that looks
totally straight on the outside is. You are both part
of the queer community, and so I'm really glad that
we got to talk to you about your experiences, and
thanks for coming out to join us.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Thank you for having us really appreciate it's a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So when we come back, it is time to hear
another steamy sex story from our call in cruising Confessions
hotline don't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
I want something?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Sex cells?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Something is.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Do you have the way?
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Do you not? The way I go? The mathng you
not the way I go?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
All right?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
That was sex Cells by Jingo Stewart. Now, before we
close today's episode, let's listen to a listener submitted cruising
compression from a horny Colin hotline.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Oh I can't wait? Okay, ye.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Was hot?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Okay. So this is a few summers ago. I am
in a place called cup Dog, which is a French
nudist swingers village on the beach in the south of France.
And so basically, like the way it works is that
the straight section, you're walking around and you're watching all
of these like hot European dudes and their wives and
they're like fingering each other. Oh, when the lifeguards go
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home at five o'clock, like everyone on all sides of
the beach except the family side start fucking and it
becomes really hot because you're walking around and you're just
like watching like straight gang bangs or like women sucking
off a row of guys, and you're really close to
like all these straight dudes and they're giant dongs. So
but there's also dunes. So on the final day that
(34:25):
I was at this place, this paradise of nude swinging sex,
I was in the dunes and I saw this woman
who was on her knees and next to her was
a guy who I assumed was her husband, and he
was videotaping her.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
She was naked.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
On her chest was written poot pute, which is like
horror in France, and guys were starting to approach her
and get sucked off by her. And so before a
few minutes there was like a row of fifteen twenty
guys who were just all waiting, and she was going
down the row and she was sucking them off or
jerking them off off and basically waiting for them to
(35:02):
come on her tips. Wow, and her husband was filming her,
and all of the guys were just one by one,
just like blowing right sperm sperm sperm, and I was
just like watching downsort of at the end of the line.
And so eventually she started to get to my spot,
and I had been watching one by one as these
cocks were just coming straight, dudes just coming coming, And
(35:25):
so eventually when she got to me, I was like, oh,
fuck it, I'm in I guess I'm doing this, and
I just used the how horny I was from watching
all these dudes come to shoot my load onto her chum.
And that remains the one and only time that I've
ever had sexual contact of any sort with a woman.
And I felt really really good about it, and I
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really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
That was amazing. You should be proud, honestly, because that
was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That is an amazing story.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
This is wild.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
It's like you're watching straight porn in real life and
you're like, well, this will do, this will do for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
But also just like the pent up energy of like
watching all these guys come on this girl's chest, like
I would have been able to bust really quickly.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Hopefully, yeah, I probably would have come before she got to.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Honestly, the fact that he was able to hold out
for that long, like.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
What's also crazy because like, to me, that scenario sounds
so gay. I feel like I've watched like twenty gay
horns where it's like someone's got slut or like come
in me written somewhere, and like, I guess I've sort
of subconsciously assumed that that was like a gay genre
inherently queer, but like, here's this woman with a little
slogan written short beyond her moves. Yeah, I mean, I
wouldn't be surprised if the caller wasn't the only queer
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person there, you know what I mean. I'm sure there
were by dudes. I'm sure there were curious people.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I also love that her husband or a partner or
whoever was filming the entire thing didn't participate, just filmed
the entire thing because you know they're gonna go home
and watch that later and totally talk to it. Congratulations
to that couple.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Congratulations to that couple, Congratulations to this caller. Always stay
open and ready. You never know whose tits you might.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Always stay open and ready.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, if you want to hear your own cruising confessions
on an upcoming episode of this podcast, you can call
our cruising Confession hotline at three zero two two one
nine three eight nine eight. That's three zero two two
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Speaker 1 (37:16):
All right, So we're at the end of this episode
and I I had so much fun with crushing Franky.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, and I get first appearances.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I was like, oh gosh, what are we getting, you know,
because I don't know these people I have never seen
them before. Wasn't sure what we were going to get,
but we got everything that we needed, and I think
so much more. And I'm really grateful that our listeners
are going to be able to hear this respective And.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know, I think it's also really important that we
got a queer woman who's in a partnership with a
queer man, because I think a lot of us make
snap judgments based on what we see, what people present
as externally, and the context clues that we use. So
I appreciate the patience with which they approached this topic
and talked about it with Nuance. I also appreciated the
really hot slutty stories.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
I do want to go cruising with them. Meant to
tell them this, but I do want to go cruising
with them, So like, the next time y'all are back
in the city, let's go cruising.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
So again, we should thank our guests today, Crush and
Frankie and you can follow both Crush and Frankie at
Crush in Frankie as in Crushes Inside Frankie Crush in Frankie,
and you can check out crushes Doll contact at Crush
Daddy dancer dot com and You can find all of
Frankie's links at Linktree, Backslash, Frankie, Baby Ray spelled r
a E, and who knows, Maybe you'll see them both
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at a dark room near you, if only.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Sniffy's.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Cruisy Confessions is directed by Adam Barron, produced by A.
Menda Kuper and Cameron Femino, and executive produced by Eli Market.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
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Speaker 7 (38:53):
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If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm Gabeln Sadez and I'm Christotison Rosso.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Each week, we explore the sublime world of queer sex, cruising,
and relationships.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We talk to queer folks of all kinds. We'll ask
some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations, and provide
practical advice that you can use at home.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
Okay, So today we're doing it. Okay, we're dipping our
toes into the discourse. Before we dive into today's episode,
we'll need to read you a I'm apologizing in advance, Chris,
would you mind reading this for us?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'll do my best. Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
So the quote reads, why are you as a woman
stepping foot in a gay bar dark room. There's nothing
for you here.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh wow, this is a real emergency.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Someone please call my own one because this episode.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
There's a woman in the dark room. Okay, So some
of our favorite replies to the message we just read
include god forbid, a woman has hobbies. That was a
good one. Another one was on a dirty floor on
your knees, kate out with a stranger's dick in your mouth.
But a girl coming in is where you draw the line.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
It is supporting my trade as he explores his bisexuality, a.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Great reason to be in the dark room, And my
personal favorite, fondly remembering the time a woman walked by
my then boyfriend eating me out at a circuit party
and pushed his head in deeper. Thanks for the assist, queen.
Hope you're doing well.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean, that's Ally's ship, that's Ali.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Ship, that's real.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And other people pointed out the irony of having sex
in a public place and being mad that other people
were there.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, and look, this post in particular was probably rage bait,
get retweets, be honest. It feels like some op ed
or social media post along these lines. Pops up every
couple of years and it goes viral and it starts
the same reductive discourse, and we're exhausted.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And to be clear, we're not talking about a messy
bachelorette party, touching people inappropriately or dropping gayzlers. That's its
unute problem. But that's really about someone's behavior. But by
assuming any woman or of him presenting person doesn't belong
in a dark room or at a gay bar or
even on Sniffy's, that's not about their behavior, it's about
who they are exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Also, not everyone is there for you. If you want
a room full of CIS gay men, go hang out
at Azara. This has been a constant debate and struggle
within the queer community. Somebody I think back to is
Cynthia Slater. She's an activist in San Francisco in the
seventies and she actually worked to petition a gay fisting
bar called the Catacombs to let in women. She's like,
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I'm a woman, I'm into fisting. Yeah, let us the
fuck in. She finally got the Catacombs to allow women
to enter the space to the fisters. She gathered knowledge
and information and then she brought it back to lesbians
outside of the Catacombs outside of San Francisco, and was
one of the very influential people started kind of the
S and M movement among queer women.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, so like if she hadn't gone to these spaces,
it wasn't allowed in these spaces, none of that would
have happened.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
If that hadn't happened, rightly, right, And we would assume
that we want to share queer knowledge.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
We do.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
If you're good at fisting, yeah, show it off, share
that information. We don't want people fisting poorly. But like,
this is like over fifty years ago at this point,
you know what I mean. So it's like, why are
we still still having this conversation exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, in today's episode, we're going to talk about women
in gay spaces and why it could be more fun
to welcome the men than to freak out about it.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Let's meet our guests.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Russian Frankie are a very fun, adventurous couple who make
adult content and live life on their own terms. They
travel the world together, filming their experiences hooking up with
very hot people in all kinds of amazing places, from
busy cities to quiet beaches.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
With real chemistry and a love for new adventures. Question
Frankie keepings raw, real and exciting for themselves and for
their audience. Walk to Snipy's Cruising Confessions crushing frank You
all right, we.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Got the cutest couple we've had increasing Confession's history here
and wet wo. Sorry buddy, it used to be me
and Chris.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Coming for a gig. So let's get into your story.
How did y'all meet?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Okay, so my gay friend he came over in my
apartment and he showed me a flyer from the strip
club he worked at.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
He's like, we're gonna go see him.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I was like, damn, okay.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
So I got dressed and we went out to the club,
and you know, I'm very nervous about making people feel
uncomfortable in certain spots that I'm at, So I'm like,
I just kind of sat at the bar and kind
of minded my own business. You know.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It was a gay bar.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, you want to step on any right, So.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I kept giving him money to go tip him every
time he like did a performance or something like that.
And me and my friend all night, we're trying to
decide if he was gay or straight, because you know,
I didn't know, and I couldn't tell either. You know,
there was no like signs, you know, because there's a
straight man that worked at the gay club, so I
didn't know. Finally I asked him. I was like, so,
you know, are you gay or straight? And his response was.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yes, and I'm like, yeah, correct.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's like that didn't help me at all.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
So then I was like, okay, so you know, thinking like, okay,
maybe he's you know both. By the end of the
night he came over when he put his arm around
my gay friend that I was with, and then he put.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
His arm around me and grabbed my ass and I
was like, okay, this is gonna go somewhere.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yes he said yes.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
A week later we were fucking, two months later we
were dating, and three months after that we were living together.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So very fast, very fast.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
She's also the first girl I ever told I'm experimenting
sexually yeah, and didn't get a negative response.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
It didn't really matter to me, you know, I was
I go to gay bars, obviously I'm attracted to I
watched gay porn to jerk off.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I haven't met a lot of girls that are like
I always say, it feels like they're tolerating your bisexuality
or porn if you know, could I do gay porn
and straight porn? Transport everything. I feel like there's a
stark difference between tolerating it and being about it. Yeah,
you know, like she is like like she's jerking off
to my porn with other right, Yeah, And if you
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could choose between those two, like if my girl tolerating
it and my girl jerking off.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
To me dudes.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
And we talk like it's fun, I could be like,
yo that guys, She's like yeah, like like we'll go fuck.
It's fun that we can talk about that. It's just
not a typical dynamic of a heteronormative relationship, you.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Know, but nothing too Like he made me feel comfortable
about because I was very slashamed, and I was very
you know in a place where I have never explored
my sexuality, and like, finally I was able to talk
that hey, like I've always wanted to experience a trans
woman or like try something other than what I've been
doing all my life, and like he didn't judge me
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for it, so it made me feel more comfortable that, hey,
I can finally feel free, and I do. I never
felt more free and just accepted in any situation ever
in my life than you know, being with him.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So it's really great.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, it's amazing how like authenticity breeds authenticity, Right, It's
like you show up as how you want to be
treated and then like you get that in spades.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'm curious with both of you because both of you
are somewhere on the spectrum of like sexual fluidity bisexuality.
You said you've faced a lot of discrimination when you've
told past partners that you are sexually fluid or explored
by sexuality. What do you think makes them react that way?
Like what is it in their life that they've been
told or taught that makes them turned off at the
idea of a partner who is more sexually fluid.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Than they are.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
When I finally like I'm going to be very open
in public about me exploring my sexuality, I was thinking
thing about like my college teammates when I played basketball
and how homophobic we are in the locker room, and
like I participated in that, Like I'm not gonna lie,
Like I said, the no homo thing a lot. You know,
we pointed out gay things to each other, Like what
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you're doing there is gay and it's bad. We talked
more about gayshit than gay men. Yeah, for sure, like
looking back at them, like we were so gay.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
In your underwear, Yeah, talking about each other's decks a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Like.
Speaker 7 (08:31):
That's what was going through my head initially as the
people that would probably discriminate me the most, right, it
was other straight conservative men. What I'd never thought about
was what women would react. I actually thought they would
be very accepting because generally women are allies of the
LGBTQ community. They always are the ones at the marches everything.
(08:51):
What I found out was they're cool with you being gay,
they don't want their husband to be. It's like not
in the house, you know what I mean, not at home.
HIV is brought up way more than I ever expected.
Like they always say they're scared of catching HIV from me,
and like I'm not even gonna get into that conversation,
right of how ignorant that is. Or they say things
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like I don't want your shitty dick in me, and
I'm like you do anal two right, yeah, And like
I know gay men douch better than you.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Fiber Supplement's bulls got.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
And I just think women haven't been challenged on that
way of thinking yet and maybe it'll come and maybe
like this, you know what we're doing right now is
that process. It's one of the conversations I think that
still needs to happen. Even if you're just like a
mostly straight guy or a fully like fifty to fifty
by guy, there's a lot of like because you haven't
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really picked a side.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Sure, yeah, everything's got to be black and white. Everything's
got to be like one hundred, you know.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
And I don't want to do a label. I'm just
gonna be crushed and I'm gonna do what I want
when I want.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
You know. It's been different now talking about it with
my friends and being more able to be open about
it and not caring more what they think, because back
when I was slutshame for liking what I liked, I
just kept it inside and never talked about it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It's very different now.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Like, say I'm talking to a guy and they're like, wow,
you do porn with trans women and like you like
gay guys experience with you. I was like, yeah, like
I love letting someone like try my pussy for the
first time, and like that is so great to me,
and the first time what wasn't the first time that
it happened. We had a clubhouse in Austin and I
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was filming a porn for, you know, a few of
my friends, and the way this guy was fucking I
was like, damn, he looks like he fuck's really good.
I was like, I wish I want to try him.
And he was gay guy, so I didn't ever think,
you know, that would happen. And we walk out of
our little cabinary. He's standing right by the fence line
and Crushed goes, hey, do you want to fuck her?
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And he goes he goes yeah, and I was like, okay,
let's do it. So he like bent me over the
picking table and then star fucking me. Crush pulls out
the camera and all of our other gay friends started
lining up.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And I was like, I guess this is turning into
a gay gang bang. And it's been one of my
best sellers ever since.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
It's all hot guys, and then like it looks like
a straight gang bang. Yeah, but then the hot guys
are jerking each other off in the background and making
out and they're like eating pussy together, which like there's
something when the because they're gay and more comfortable, Like
when they eat the pussy together, it's better.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
It's not like they're trying to.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Like, you know, because there's no fear of being gay,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
When I talk to guys like at the strip club
who are in hiding basically and they want to experience,
and like when they feel me talking about my fluidity
and like how I feel, all of a sudden, they
feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Like I've always wanted to be pegged. I've always wanted
to do this. I was like, let's do it, sign
me up.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
And there are a few guys that are also like, oh,
I could never have another guys dick near me. I
was like, well, for the first time I went air tight,
you know, with two trans women and my boyfriend, and
like it was one of the best feelings I've ever had. Yeah,
I never ever thought that I would have all three
holes filled at the same time.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
The culture around sex and the LGBTQ community is what
I really like. And I love that opposite of sluedt
shaming attitude, that sex positivity and like it's just not
that big a deal.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
People are just friendly in the community and like they understand,
like everybody wants to try something and like it's okay
to try something new and you don't have to be like, oh,
I'm gonna stand over here in the corner and feel
bad about what I like.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, And that's the thing that really grinds my gears
about like these complaints about like women or people who
aren't gay men in like dark rooms or queer spaces,
because you don't know why someone's there, right, Like if
you see a woman or from presenting person, maybe they're
there with their partner, Maybe they're interested in fucking and
doing it in a respectful way. Maybe they're thinking of
transitioning and trying to like come into queer spaces if
you don't read them as a man yet, Like, there's
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so many reasons someone could be in that space and
for me to see other folks immediately jump to being
like no and cutting them off, it's like this is
a space one of the few spaces where you can
explore your sexuality without judgment, and that should be open
to everybody that wants to explore their sexuality because where
are you or you going to go at a straight
bar to do what you do. It's like you can't
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really find that anywhere besides like these dark rooms and
sex parties and you know, working in the industry, how long.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Was it before you started going to bars and like
hunting together ethically.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, pretty quickly moved to a club.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
She opened up to me about the trans yeah, and
I was like, well, yeah, I've done lots of that,
and I was like, I know grave trans bars that
we can go to and a beautiful trans woman she
really was, And.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
We took her in the back and did some dances
and like it turned into only fans club work.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's funny you just show up and suddenly the only
fans collapse. It's an amazing skill.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
We do feel like we're documenting our sexual experiences a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
This archive. You have his history. My first time ever.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Sucking dig is on camera and it's authentic. It wasn't
planned the way people lie.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
About saying they're sucking their first stick on camera all
the time. And you actually.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
It was with Braxton Cruise and he's fucking handsome Australian
man with the most beautiful dick ever. And up until
that point, I pretty much always thought like, sucking dick
isn't really something I think I want to do. Rights
just how I felt and I was eating his ass.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And I started.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I started, I ever thought that I would suck dick,
but eating ass absolutely.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Different. I learned.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I learned long ago that I like asked, it doesn't
matter what. But anyway, I was eating his ass and
his dick was just there, and I was like, it's
a nice dick. I'm gonna put my mouth on it.
And I was like, no, you don't do that. And
then I was just like, why why did I just
do that? I want to do it. And I looked
at her and I'm like, I think I want to
suck his dig.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Let's go.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
This was like early in my porn career and like
only fans career, and so like people kind of already
thought I didn't do that because they thought I was
one of those tops that just don't do it. And
so he was kind of like surprised. He's like, oh really,
and I was like, yeah, you got a nice dick.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I was like, and I sucked it a little bit too.
After that, I was like.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
It was adorable to be fair, because I was literally
like I don't know if I'm going to be good
at this, Like is that good?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Like this is so hot?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
And what I realized after that because I thought I
didn't want to suck dick because I just didn't think
it was something I was into. And afterward I was like, Oh,
the fucking reason was I was still thinking about what
other people would think if they knew I sucked dick,
and I didn't realize it because I was like, oh,
now everyone will know I sucked a dick. Despite how
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far I've come, was still thinking that it's like a
degrading thing to do for me, you know, because the
way we talked about sucking dick as straight man in
the locker room was purely from a degrading sense, and
that I hadn't let that go yet.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Fully.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Now it's like I do it all the time. When
I want to like it, I still don't want to.
Sometimes it's not like a thing like yeah, I'm weird
about some things, like I hate my own come. It's
is such a weird alone in that, like I'm just
not come guy. Yeah I love making people come. Yeah
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I don't, And like I'd rather have you come on
my chest than me come on my chest.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Okay, how much time do we have? Oh my god,
y'all are a fucking who. We have to take a break.
This is so much fun.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
When we come back, Frankie's gonna share some tips for
girls who want to be in gay spaces, and Crush
will offer some advice for gay dudes who want to
co exist more peacefully with the.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Women in their lives.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I think we can achieve that.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think we can.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I think we can after this conversation, all right, more
Sniffy's cruising confessions after the break, don't go anywhere. Welcome back.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
We've been talking with bisexual content creator couple Crush and Frankie,
And if you're like us, you are fully obsessed with
them by now.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I would hope, but I'm sure there are some of
you that are still big mad that we are even
talking about women in case spaces, and we're here to
make honestly.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
In this act, we're going to hear some tips and
tricks from both Frankie Crush on how gay guys and
some women can co exist in gay bars and yes,
even dark rooms or picnic table fuck sessions.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
So, frank what would you recommend for a woman who
is interested in going out to a gay bar?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
So in retrospect, like a woman really just needs to
know her place in this community, because like I can
go into a gay bar and act like I'm the
center of attention and people can hate me. Or I
can go into a gay bar and be friends with
the gay bees and like show them how much fun
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I want to have with them, instead of making them
feel like they're literally just there as furniture.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I think a lot of women do that. So
just know your place.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
You know, in a bar.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
You're not going to a gay bar to get guys
to buy you drinks. Like all the gay guys are
buying their own drinks. They're not worried about you. Maybe
even offer to buy the gays a drink instead of
making them feel like I'm here, you know what I mean,
because I've been guilty of that. You know, feel like
I should be the center of attention because I'm cute
and I'm pretty, and I'm as pretty as the gays.
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You know, like meyern, I center of attention. But you
can't do that in the gay spaces. You really can't
because nobody cares and people are going to be like,
get her out of here. You know, we're tired of
seeing her here. She's too loud, she's obnoxious, you.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Know, it doesn't matter who does that. Though you're not
gonna like it's.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
This is true, Like you can't be my friend. You're
acting like this in this gay bar right now, like
any space. Yeah, it's true, It's very true.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Earlier while we were talking, we did touch a little
bit on how fear of HIV makes some partners fearful
of having a partner in their life who is by
or hooks up with men. But I'm curious how you
guys approach safety and how do you like communicate that
to other partners that y'all are hooking up with.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
I don't think straight people know how much has changed
even in the last ten years when it comes to that.
I didn't even know until a few years ago. And like,
you know, we're both on prep. We're big advocates for it.
We talk about it, we educate, and when we work
with stray creators, it's like we won't shut the fuck
up about it. I'm just like, why why are you
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not on it? Testing only does so.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Much, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Like, but even in the beginning of our relationship, like
he was so scared of STDs and like I didn't
go to school the way he went to school.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I quit school eighth grade, so, like.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Yeah, I was taught in the early American school. When
I came to America, one of the first sex education
classes was very much one of those like sex is bad,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, don't have sex.
STDs will murder you, like all of them are going
to kill you.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I grew up in Florida, I know what that's like.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Yeah, this is California. That was what I thought STDs were.
I had to learn that I was very wrong about that.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
So freaky. Did you actually start the topic of like
prep and getting tested? Was that something you were more?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I think actually our gay friends did that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
But I think I tried to help him see, like listen,
there's not many STDs nowadays that you can't get rid
of if you do catch something, like I was just
letting him know, like it's okay, Like it's not that
big a deal.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Like right now, nowadays, I've been with I've been with
tons of people that are undetectable. Yes, I don't even
care because I'm like, we're both on prep cares and
like a lot of people would just be too scared
to even do that because they don't. They still are
living in that thing that we were taught. And so
we're both on prep. We both take doxy. You know,
we get tested regularly, which I think in the straight
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culture that is still a prevention tactic because like if
I work with straight creators there, they care so much
about the test and making sure it's within fourteen days.
I'm like, really, it's only valid if I got that
test today, and you know, you don't know what I've
done in the last fourteen days. I don't know what
you've done. Also, you're a girl and you have the
worst STD than known the man, which is pregnancy, and.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You can't manage that.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
So I can rather than show me your test because
I'm taking preping doxy, so I don't care what your
test says. Please show me you're on birth control. That's
what I need. Please show me that documentation right now.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
We can't make Daddy Crush a literal father.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Because we can't do that because that's forever. That's a
really good point.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Then again, you know, gays can't get pregnant. Trying a
lot of.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Guys, none of them pregnant when we talked about it.
It's interesting straight people are having a bit of a
rise in HIV.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Not a bait.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Actually, it's a lot. Like it's really starting to pick
up with them, and that's scary because that if that
becomes an epidemic with them would be far worse.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Well, I think I think that is another reason that
in the straight community, more people are scared to talk
about it, and more people.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
It's still such a gross thing.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Yeah, more people keep it hidden and don't tell anybody
that they caught something because they're embarrassed, and like the
gay world be like, oh, I had a chlamydia last week.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I got rid of that shit.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
You know. It's like not that I had a big
of a deal.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
I had a girl for that I woke up with
call me like a dirty faggot because I just told
her to get on prep like, because I was just saying, like,
I take this to you can take it as a preventative,
but you can also take it if you have it
to make you undetectable. Right, That's literally all I was saying. Yeah,
she took it as I have HIV and I'm a
dirty faggot basically like.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Florida though, right, Yeah, this wasn't Florida. Yeah, Okay, that's
a lot.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
In New York.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I know, we have a lot of gay they're called
gay bars, but they're really mixed queer spaces, but there
aren't a lot of spaces for queer women. So I'm wondering,
when you guys go out in Texas or when you're
traveling for work, do you see a lot of that
mixture in gay spaces. Do you see a lot of
like queer men and women, or do you find that
it's a little more self segregated in other cities.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
When I would go out in Dallas, I think it
was very, very mixed because a lot of my queer
women friends want to twined with everybody. They don't want
to be stuck at a bar with all people just
like them, you know, and they're super friendly and they
just want to talk with everybody and be friends with everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And that is some of the things that they have.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Told me why they don't like going and staying at
the lesbian bars that is just for them. So I
think it's very mixed in the gay culture in Dallas.
And that was where I kind of started exploring myself
because I finally become single and like just going out
with my gay friends and enjoying the night, not feeling
judged or feeling like I shouldn't be there for me.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
It's like I don't want to be around a bunch
of people exactly like me. You know, I love when
people are into different shit because I want to like
be like, I want to ask questions. I would be like, wait,
you do what it did? What?
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Like?
Speaker 7 (24:44):
That sounds fascinating? Like, you know, I love variety, so like,
the more like diverse we can make it the better.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
In my opinion, there's so many layers to it, right,
It's like you've got queer women, You've got street cis women,
you've got trans women, all entering spaces that are dominated
by gay men, and a lot of these cities, and
I think gay men feel this ownership over that space
without realizing that. It's like, it's not just for us, right,
we should be welcoming a broader array of queer people
or queer allies into these spaces, and as long as
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everybody's being respectful, there shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Be an issue.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
I felt very accepted. In fact, you know, I got
sober and gay aa no way on actual city in
Los Angeles, and I saw a bunch of people outside
of a brick building, drinking coffee out of a styrofolm
cop smoking cigarettes. And I was like, that looks like
one of those AA meetings. And like I was freshly sober,
like broke homeless, like I'm like I should I'm just
(25:38):
gonna go hang out there for a bit. And I
went in and I was like, there's a lot of
gay trans people out here. It was just la like
maybe they just look gay because and at the end
of the meeting, you know, the secretary was like, everybody,
thank you for coming to Friday night LGBTQ meeting. And
I was like, Ohm, not supposed to be here. And
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I literally I didn't make a run for the door,
but like this girl, Shelley push old lesbian woman just
grabs me, throws me back in the room. It was
like one hundred and forty five pounds the time. It
was easy like this a tweaker just like just got sober,
throws me back in the room. Is like UNI gets sober,
like I don't give a shit that you're straight, Like
we don't care. This isn't just for gay people, like
it just is a space that we created that was safe,
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but you're welcome here too. I went to that meeting
for the rest of my sobriety while I was YEA,
and I felt so a part of it. Even this
was before I ever identified as anything but straight. I
felt so a part of it and so like part
of that community. And I learned more about being a
grown man and a good man from those people in
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the LGBTQ space in sobriety than I ever did from
any straight person in my entire life. And like, I'm
getting emotional talking about it because I owe my life
to the LGBTQ community for that. So to this day,
I feel like I never had a problem being accepted
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even when I identified a straight and then there was
like the gay for pay phase, and then there was
a I like some of this phase, and not at
any point through any of those phases that I ever
not feel accepted. I think it's a small percentage of
gay people that are not accepting of women or me
being with a woman. But when they do it, my
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first thought is, you're doing the same thing that everyone
did in the sixties eighties. To us, it's just roles reverse.
Now it's your saying you're not gay enough, or like
what we're doing is homophobic, and like that makes no
sense to me.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The conversion therapy is the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
That people accuse you of engaging in conversion therapy for
just showing up.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
So they think because she's sleeping with gay men that
she's trying to convert them to being straight. And that's
our agenda because I guess you know, there's some praian,
some politician injected us into your community and it's texting
us like, hey, go to this are and try to
convert the gaye by making them sleep with her. And
I'm just like, really, that's what you think people. First
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of all, my.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Parents tried that on me for years and I'm still
pretty fucking gay. So I don't know if that strategy
is working.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
You need to come hang out with me.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'm gonna start off.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
This by for pay and then, yeah, I don't feel
like an ally. I feel like I'm part of that flag.
Yeah I have the flag, like I identify with it.
I fight for it, not as like another group fighting
for another group, Like I am part of the group.
I feel that way. If you want to tell me
i'm not, that's your issue.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, Well, we are unfortunately nearing the end of
the episode, but Russian Franky, before we let you go,
I'm wondering if there's anything that we haven't talked about
yet that you'll want it to share, or anything you
wanted to touch on before we wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Or like any cruising confession.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh yeah, do you have any cruising confessions?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Well no, I just like you know, here for the story.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
This is one of my first experiments. Okay, that when
I was like, like, I'm gonna try some stuff that's
not straight. This was a few years ago. So actually
the first time I ever experimented was with trans girls.
One of the first transgirls I hooked up with was
in Fort Lauderal. She saw me in the club and
then I was outside and she was with a group
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of gay guys and she walked up to me and
she's this tall, beautiful Columbian trans girl. And she walked
up to me and just puts her hand down my
pants and grabs my balls work and she just goes,
I want to suck your dick. And I was like, okay,
let's let's go. And she's like, where are you staying.
I'm like an airbnbating down the street. She goes, okay,
and so me, her and her friends all start walking
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and we get like fifteen steps into the walk and
she's got heels on, you know everything. She's like, I
don't want to walk all the way. And she just
pulled my pants down right there on that street, pulled
my pants down. Lots of people starts blowing me. I
stole my cockering on from dancing everything.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's so hot.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I don't know. I'm like having a sensory overload. It's
kind of new. It's just a public public's another one
of my kinks. And like her gay friends are like
cheering her on and like also helping kind of hide
her at the same time. And I come in her
mouth and she like.
Speaker 8 (30:17):
Drools it out of her mouth under her tits, and
I'm like having a bit of a cumcoma, you know
that when it's just like and then her gay friends
come over and started liking the cum off her tits,
and I'm.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Like, this.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Is why we need women in dark rooms, handsucking dick
on the streets. I like all of this, but I.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
I just knew I liked all of it. I couldn't
figure out what about it I liked. I just liked
all of it. From there, I was just like, yeah,
I'm definitely not just going to live the straight life
no more.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
A good time.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I think my one of my favorite times is though,
was with my first collab on camera, having two guys.
It's always been a fantasy, but I've never told anybody.
I've never let anybody know that I wanted somebody to
fuck a man into me. And he made that happen when.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Derek Cage and You've made a Derek Cage sandwich.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
But how it happened was even better because Derek Cage
is just such an amazing human. And I reached out
to Derek Cage and I had, you know, twelve hundred
followers at the time on Twitter, Like I thought, this
guy who just won every award that yere.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Is someone that I work with.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
So I just shoot my shot and it's like, hey,
do you work with nobody's And he was like, you're
not a nobody and I was like okay. So we
set it up and he came over and we ended
up shooting three things like him and Crush Me Crush
and Derek and then just me and Derek.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
It was really a great experience to have Derek and
me and crush fucking him into me, and then Derek
coming on my chest and me shoving his face and
to fucking eat it, and like it was such a
great experience that I had never felt okay to do
or experience or even think that that was ever going
to be something that I would ever try until this motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Oh all right, this has been really, really incredible. I'm
really glad we had you all to talk about some
of themes we want to talk about this episode, But
I think one of the most fun things has been
seeing how you both kind of enabled each other to
become more authentic people, to feel more confident in your sexuality,
to support each other doing that. I think it's like
very very rare, and I think you guys serve as
(32:35):
a really great example that not every couple that looks
totally straight on the outside is. You are both part
of the queer community, and so I'm really glad that
we got to talk to you about your experiences, and
thanks for coming out to join us.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Thank you for having us really appreciate it's a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
So when we come back, it is time to hear
another steamy sex story from our call in cruising Confessions
hotline don't go anywhere.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
I want something?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Sex cells?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Something is.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Do you have the way?
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Do you not? The way I go? The mathng you
not the way I go?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
All right?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
That was sex Cells by Jingo Stewart. Now, before we
close today's episode, let's listen to a listener submitted cruising
compression from a horny Colin hotline.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Oh I can't wait? Okay, ye.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Was hot?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Okay. So this is a few summers ago. I am
in a place called cup Dog, which is a French
nudist swingers village on the beach in the south of France.
And so basically, like the way it works is that
the straight section, you're walking around and you're watching all
of these like hot European dudes and their wives and
they're like fingering each other. Oh, when the lifeguards go
(34:03):
home at five o'clock, like everyone on all sides of
the beach except the family side start fucking and it
becomes really hot because you're walking around and you're just
like watching like straight gang bangs or like women sucking
off a row of guys, and you're really close to
like all these straight dudes and they're giant dongs. So
but there's also dunes. So on the final day that
(34:25):
I was at this place, this paradise of nude swinging sex,
I was in the dunes and I saw this woman
who was on her knees and next to her was
a guy who I assumed was her husband, and he
was videotaping her.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
She was naked.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
On her chest was written poot pute, which is like
horror in France, and guys were starting to approach her
and get sucked off by her. And so before a
few minutes there was like a row of fifteen twenty
guys who were just all waiting, and she was going
down the row and she was sucking them off or
jerking them off off and basically waiting for them to
(35:02):
come on her tips. Wow, and her husband was filming her,
and all of the guys were just one by one,
just like blowing right sperm sperm sperm, and I was
just like watching downsort of at the end of the line.
And so eventually she started to get to my spot,
and I had been watching one by one as these
cocks were just coming straight, dudes just coming coming, And
(35:25):
so eventually when she got to me, I was like, oh,
fuck it, I'm in I guess I'm doing this, and
I just used the how horny I was from watching
all these dudes come to shoot my load onto her chum.
And that remains the one and only time that I've
ever had sexual contact of any sort with a woman.
And I felt really really good about it, and I
(35:46):
really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
That was amazing. You should be proud, honestly, because that
was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That is an amazing story.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
This is wild.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
It's like you're watching straight porn in real life and
you're like, well, this will do, this will do for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
But also just like the pent up energy of like
watching all these guys come on this girl's chest, like
I would have been able to bust really quickly.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Hopefully, yeah, I probably would have come before she got to.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Honestly, the fact that he was able to hold out
for that long, like.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
What's also crazy because like, to me, that scenario sounds
so gay. I feel like I've watched like twenty gay
horns where it's like someone's got slut or like come
in me written somewhere, and like, I guess I've sort
of subconsciously assumed that that was like a gay genre
inherently queer, but like, here's this woman with a little
slogan written short beyond her moves. Yeah, I mean, I
wouldn't be surprised if the caller wasn't the only queer
(36:39):
person there, you know what I mean. I'm sure there
were by dudes. I'm sure there were curious people.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I also love that her husband or a partner or
whoever was filming the entire thing didn't participate, just filmed
the entire thing because you know they're gonna go home
and watch that later and totally talk to it. Congratulations
to that couple.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Congratulations to that couple, Congratulations to this caller. Always stay
open and ready. You never know whose tits you might.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Always stay open and ready.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, if you want to hear your own cruising confessions
on an upcoming episode of this podcast, you can call
our cruising Confession hotline at three zero two two one
nine three eight nine eight. That's three zero two two
one nine three eight nine eight.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
All right, So we're at the end of this episode
and I I had so much fun with crushing Franky.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, and I get first appearances.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
I was like, oh gosh, what are we getting, you know,
because I don't know these people I have never seen
them before. Wasn't sure what we were going to get,
but we got everything that we needed, and I think
so much more. And I'm really grateful that our listeners
are going to be able to hear this respective And.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know, I think it's also really important that we
got a queer woman who's in a partnership with a
queer man, because I think a lot of us make
snap judgments based on what we see, what people present
as externally, and the context clues that we use. So
I appreciate the patience with which they approached this topic
and talked about it with Nuance. I also appreciated the
really hot slutty stories.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
I do want to go cruising with them. Meant to
tell them this, but I do want to go cruising
with them, So like, the next time y'all are back
in the city, let's go cruising.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
So again, we should thank our guests today, Crush and
Frankie and you can follow both Crush and Frankie at
Crush in Frankie as in Crushes Inside Frankie Crush in Frankie,
and you can check out crushes Doll contact at Crush
Daddy dancer dot com and You can find all of
Frankie's links at Linktree, Backslash, Frankie, Baby Ray spelled r
a E, and who knows, Maybe you'll see them both
(38:25):
at a dark room near you, if only.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Sniffy's.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Cruisy Confessions is directed by Adam Barron, produced by A.
Menda Kuper and Cameron Femino, and executive produced by Eli Market.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Cruising Confessions is presented by Snippy's, the ultimate map based
cruising platform for gay by.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Incurious people ready to cruise.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Check out the map at snippies dot com and fall
snitches at snippies app.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Cruisers are a community. Do your part in keeping us safe.
Learn more about protecting your sexual health at Healthy Sexuals
dot com.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
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