May 28, 2025 • 27 mins
In this solo episode, Claude dives into the importance of intention, visualization, and external focus on the golf course to help you play better and improve your score.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the son of a butch podcast. I'm your host,
Claude Horman solo episode of the pod this week. But
before we get to that, it was four years ago
this week that the podcast started. Now read was my
first guest, and four years on, I think we're close
to two and a half million downloads. I continue to
be amazed at people listen. To be honest with you,
I travel probably twenty twenty five weeks a year all
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over the globe. People no matter where I am, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Bangkok, Thailand, Singapore,
someone will come up to me and say, hey, listen
to the podcast, and that just blows me away. And yeah,
I mean I do it all myself. Obviously, with my
travel schedule it can get a little bit taxing at times,
but I travel with podcast bag, record everything, get all
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the guests myself, and just do it all. It's a
labor of love and we'll keep doing it. We'll keep
trying to get as many good guests as we can
and come up with as many topics as possible to
help you improve your game. And once again, I can't
thank everybody enough for supporting and listening. It really does
mean a lot to me. So I spent a lot
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of time obviously as a golf instructor on the podcast
talking about technique and things like that. But one of
the things, if you've listened over the last couple of years,
I think execution is as important as having great technique. Yes, obviously,
having great technique is a huge part of getting better
at golf. If your golf swing improves, if your technique improves,
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if your positions improve, all of that, right, But if
you are going to play golf on a regular basis,
your golf swing and your golf game is going to
be in a constant state of flux change. It's never
really going to be the same all the time. And
even at that tour level, the best players in the world,
their game isn't great all the time. Obviously, Yes, when
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the best players in the world are playing their best,
Scottie Scheffler, Ry McElroy, John Rahm, Brooks, Koepka, any of
the players right Xander, when they're playing their best like
last year, Xander, two majors playing great this year, no
majors so far right hasn't played the way he's played
last year. Guys, that's just golf. I mean, golf is tough,
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but I see so many players that come and take
lessons from me, and I just look at the way
that they're trying to go about getting better. Yes, they're
trying to take golf lessons. Yes they're trying to improve
their golf swings, their technique and stuff. But I was
with a junior golfer I help, and we went out
on the golf course and we're hitting shots on the course. Yesterday,
This kid, you know, ranked inside the top one hundred
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and junior golf scoreboard, probably will end up playing Division
one college golf, wins tournaments, a really really good player,
and it's got a beautiful golf swing. Technique is really
really solid. And so we were out on the golf
course and we were going out and I specifically wanted
to go out and just hit shots on the course.
We weren't hitting drives, we were just going to the fairway.
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We were randomizing the numbers out on the golf course
on the different holes. Here at Floridian. He likes to
draw the golf ball, so I was like, Okay, let's
pick out really specific targets on where we want the
golf ball to start. And then let's be really really
specific in where we want the golf ball to start
and where we want the golf ball to finish. And
so what I was trying to talk to him about is, listen,
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why don't we just go out and we're just trying
to hit either left or right of it the flag.
So he likes to draw it, So I was like, okay.
So we went out to a par three. So water
down the left hand side of this par three, probably
about one hundred and I think we were playing it yesterday,
right around one hundred and sixty five hundred and seventy yards.
Pin was in the back left hand portion of the green,
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and there is a raised up area on the right
hand and then there's a slope so they can put
a pin on kind of a shelf on the right
hand side of this green, which is a really tough
pin position. And then the other difficult pin position on
this whole is back left because anything left of the flag,
anything left of the green, is going to go into
the water. So you've got to control your trajectory. You've
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got to control how much curve you've got. So I
think he was probably seven iron, eight iron something like that.
Stood up and I watched him go ahead and hit
the shot, and he got up and he kind of,
you know, got behind the golf ball, made a couple
of practice swings, and from I noticed from the time
that he started making his practice swings. So once he
finished his practice swings and he was getting ready to
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get into the shot and hit it, I just watched
his head and I watched his eyes. And so from
the time he got behind the golf ball and then
started walking into it, and I noticed his head and
he's looking at the golf ball. So he gets into
his set up. He's kind of staring at the golf
ball and going through some waggles, quick glance at the target,
back to staring at the golf balls, a couple of
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rehearsal backswings, you know, shuffling his feet, but again no
look at the target. Then quick glanced to the target
and back into looking at the ball, shuffling his feet,
all those things, and then he hit one. So he
hit two shots. They weren't great. One of them went
over the green, one of them came up a little
bit short, and so I mentioned that to him, and
I said, listen, you are daring at the golf ball
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and just kind of quickly glancing at the target and
then back to staring at the golf ball and then
quick glance back to the target. Why don't we try
and do the opposite right, So, why don't you get
behind the golf ball? And then I said to him, listen,
I want a very specific target on where you're trying
to start the golf ball. So there was the flag
and then in the horizon behind them there was some,
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you know, a couple of trees, and then there was
a gap in the trees, and then there were some
more trees, and I said, listen, if you think about
what we're trying to do here, we're trying to hit
this ball twenty feet right of the flag pin high,
So really zone in on where you want this golf
ball to start, where you want this golf ball to curve.
And the idea that I've talked about on the pod
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before it's a game that I like to play with players,
is we give them a target whatever shape they're hitting,
whether they're hitting draws, whether they're hitting fades. We give
them ten balls. There's three points available, and then what
we do is you get your target and then you've
got kind of another target right of it, however, far
right of it you to go. That's player dependent, that's
up to you, and it's kind of ability dependent, right. Obviously,
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if you're not hitting it great and you're working on
a lot of things, give yourself a big winn. So
the idea that whether you're hitting a drawer or a fade,
but if you're hitting a draw, every time you're going
to hit a draw, go ahead and look at your target.
And what the launch monitors do is they basically look
at where your ball is. When you work with a
launch monitor, it basically is tracking kind of a line
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from your golf ball to the target, and then there's
the right side of that, there's the left side of that.
But every time you're going to hit a shot, look
at your target. If you're going to try and hit
a draw, what you're going to do is you're going
to open up a window right of the target. Right,
you've got a launch window and your target obviously the
flag that's where you're trying to hit the golf ball too.
But what I see most players do is they're just
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hyper hyper focused on the target. If they're even looking
at the target right. So they're going to try and
hit it at the flag. So what I was saying
to this player yesterday, this junior, Okay, let's look at
where we're trying to start the golf ball. You know,
what is our launch window of where we're trying to
start it. And he kind of came up with a tree.
He said, okay, that's kind of my out of bounds
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on the right. I don't want to start it anymore
right of that. So from behind the ball, you know,
he had a very clear kind of window of where
he was trying to hit it. So he's trying to
start it in that window, curve it in that window,
have it stay in that window, and hit it solid.
And that's the game that we play on the range. Right,
I give him ten balls, tell them to pick a
target out and then I say, all right, you know
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we've got a flag right of that. We got another
flag right of that, we got another flag right of that.
You choose which one as kind of your barrier on
the right hand side. So that's kind of an out
of bounds line, and then you've got to start the
golf ball in that kind of launch window. You get
a point for that. You get a point if it
curves and stays in the launch window. So that's two points,
and then you get a point if you hit it solid.
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So we were on the course and I said, listen,
you've just hit two balls and you're not even looking
really at the target. You're just kind of glancing, you know,
at the target for like a second, and then you're
kind of staring at the staring at your body, staring
at all of the stuff that is not moving right,
and you haven't even hit the ball yet. So I said, listen,
I want you to stare at the target, glance at
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the ball. Stare at the target, glance at the ball.
So he stood up, got behind it, and I filmed
both of these. I filmed the first one where I
showed him listen, go ahead and take a look at
this last video. And he's like, yeah, I'm not even
I'm barely even looking at the target. And I said,
so you're staring at the ball. What are you staring
at the ball for? The ball's not going to move right.
It's not a moving ball right in golf unless the
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ball moves on its own, or the ground moves, the
ball rolls down hill or something. The ball is stationary.
It's going to stay in the same place. And I
think so many golfers are worried so much about their
technique and their golf swing and their mechanics and all that.
And again, all of that is important, right, It's important
part of playing golf. It's an important part of improving golf.
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But as I said in the opening, your golf swing
isn't going to be perfect every day. Your golf swing
probably has never going to be perfect. So when you're
on the golf course, you've got to figure out where
you're trying to hit the golf ball. And I think
where you're trying to hit the golf ball and where
you're trying to start the golf ball, he is majorly important.
And so I filmed this player on the first shot
staring at the ball, glancing at the target, staring at
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the ball, glancing at the target. Didn't hit two great shots.
I said, all right, so let's reverse that. Want you
to from the time you get behind the golf ball.
It just wants you to really focus in and stare
at where you want the ball to start, not where
you want the ball to finish, where you want the
ball to start, and just control your start line and
so I filmed it, and he got up and got
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behind it, and all of a sudden, the walk into
the ball was a little bit slower because he wasn't
staring at the ball. He was kind of looking at
the target. And then he got in and got his
feet set and he was looking at the target. Then
he looked down at the golf ball for a second,
and then back into staring at where he's trying to
start the golf ball. He did some of his waggles again,
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but staring more at the target than the golf ball.
And then he got up hit a beautiful high little draw,
started it on the right hand part of the green
and started it kind of over where this top shelf is,
and then landed it on the slope and then one
bounced it started to go down to the hole, rolling
like a putt, and he lippt it out. I mean,
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he almost made it. And then I showed him that
and he was like, wow, that looks really different. It
looked more, he said, it looked slower. I said, I
don't know if it's slower. I think maybe it's just
more purposeful and stuff. And so I started thinking about that,
and so for the rest of the holes that we play.
It was the same type thing, Okay, hit this one.
And so what I was doing is I was challenging
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him with his shape. Right, he likes to draw the
golf ball from right to left, So I was saying, Okay,
on some holes, we're going to try and have the
ball finish twenty feet right of the flag, and then
on some of the holes, we're going to try and
have the ball finish twenty feet left of the flag.
So getting him to think about where he was wanting
the ball to finish and not necessarily being so hyper
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focused on where the pin was in the flag. So
to me, I think one of the things that's really
important for golfers and is important when you're hitting shots
is your intent. Your intention, What are you trying to do?
What is the formula of what you're trying to do?
What is the recipe of what you're trying to do?
And I think so many golfers have a clear picture
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in their head of what they're trying to do when
they're working on their technique, right when they're working on
positions and their golf swing, and when they're working on
mechanics and working on trying not to let the backswing
get too inside, working on not letting the backswing get
to outside. Whatever mechanical thoughts or technical thoughts you're using
in your golf swing. But when you get out on
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the golf course, it's hard to play thinking of all
of the things that you're trying to work on in
your golf swing. And then I think the focus becomes
on the golf course really really internal, to where the
focus is about a specific body part, a specific muscle,
a specific body motion. That's all the internal focus. And
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I just see a lot of players struggle on the
golf course because there's no external focus, right, There's no
focus on what is this lie going to do? What
is this slope that I'm on going to do? What
is that going to do? To the shape? The ball's
below my feet, what's the ball going to do? How's
that going to affect it? If the ball is above
my feet, what is the ball going to do? And
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again going back to this junior that I was saying, okay,
and then what is your intent on this shot? And
so what I started doing was asking this player, this junior, okay,
talk me through what you're going to do, and not
your technique, not Okay, I want the backswing to go
a little bit more on the inside, want it to
be a little bit shorter than I want to try
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and shallow it out and kind of drop it underneath
and do all that. No, I don't need to know
any of the I want to know what type of
shot you're trying to hit. Okay, you tell me you're
gonna hit a little draw, great, Okay, where's your target? Okay?
Obviously there's the flag. Okay, So where do you want
the ball to start? And then what I did was
I got him verbally going through that, you know, standing
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behind the golf ball and saying, okay, what do we
got here? Where's the wind? What's the distance? Okay? So
first of all, what's the distance? And one of the
things that I try and do with junior golfers, and
I think it's something that everybody could benefit from, is
when you walk up and I think I've said this before,
but when you walk up to an iron shot, you
stand up and you're going to hit one, don't take
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out your rangefinder, don't look for a yardage marker. Ask
yourself how far you think the flag is away from you?
Just ask yourself that first question, come up with a
number and say, yeah, that looks probably one fifty five.
Get your range finder. Okay, it was one fifty eight,
it's one fifty seven. Good. If you think it's one
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fifty five and you hit your rain finder and it's
one eighty, that's a problem. And I think building that
kind of trust with yourself of Okay, I know what
the yardage is. I can see that visually. I think
visualization on the golf course. There's a lot of ways
that we visualize things, but I think distance control, depth perception,
and things like that is something that a lot of
people don't really kind of practice, they don't really test,
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And I think if you can start doing that is
the first thing you do when you get up to
your golf ball is just ask yourself, okay, without any calculations,
without a yardage book, without a rangefinder, without looking at
a yardage marker, looking where the one fifty. You know,
some golf courses are going to have plates on the
ground that are going to give you yardages, you know,
just basic yardages one hundred, one fifty, one seventy five,
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or sometimes they have the markers on the side of
the fairways, right, so you know that's one hundred yard marker.
And then obviously the fancier of the club, the more
you know details the yardages are going to be. They're
going to give you yardage to the front, they're going
to give you yardage to the middle, they're going to
give you yardage back, whatever it is. But I think
if you ask yourself first what is the yardage, and
then use your rangefinder to test to see if you're right.
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Hopefully you're rangefinder or whatever yardage device that you're using,
plates things in the ground or on the course. Hopefully
you're right. You know. I think most golfers now they're
competitive and serious about their golf have rangefinders. So walk
up to it, take a look at it. Yeah, I
think it's one sixty five. Go ahead and scope it. Yeah,
you know it's one sixty three, it's one sixty, it's whatever.
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Then ask yourself, Okay, what club am I going to hit?
I think building in for the miss, So I think
early in the round a good thing to do is
maybe take one more club and swing easy so you
don't have to kind of jump out of your shoes
and you know you're playing on the golf course. Play
for the miss don't play for the good shot. Play
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for okay, if I miss it, let me just take
enough club. So if I miss hit this a little bit,
I've got enough club that's gonna maybe get it on
the green. So choosing the club and then ask yourself, okay,
where's the flag? Okay, And then dependent on the shape
that you're trying to hit. Let's say you're trying to
hit a draw, use the backdrop, use the horizon, use
the trees, use whatever you've got, and say, Okay, I'm
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gonna try and hit this golf ball pin high, so
you know anywhere. I mean, if you could dump all
of your golf balls twenty to thirty feet left or
right of the pin, you'd probably lower your scores in
a pretty quick fashion and start to play pretty good.
So just think, let me just hit this to twenty feet.
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That's a good shot with an iron. Right, That is
a really really good shot with an iron. I was watching,
you know, at the PGA at Quail Hollow down the
stretch on Sunday. I was doing this with a couple
of juniors earlier in the week, and we were going
back and watching shots, and you know, John Rahm Sunday,
tied for the lead. Part three, stands up and it's
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a beautiful shot to about twenty feet from two hundred
and twelve yards lip the put out. I think that
was at thirteen, But a really quality iron shot in
a major championship on the back nine on Sunday, tied
for the lead, two hundred and twelve yard par three,
twenty feet great shot, Just a great shot in those circumstances.
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If anybody was watching, lit the put out, still trying
to figure out how that didn't go in Scotti Scheffler.
Just quality iron shots, right, So just trying to hit
it twenty feet left of it, twenty feet right of it,
pin high, and then say, Okay, where do I want
this golf ball to start? Not where do I want
the golf ball to finish? Where do I want the
golf ball to start? I think if you're asking yourself
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that question, first of all, if you're asking yourself, okay,
how far do I think this yardage is without a rangefinder?
That's a question you're asking yourself, and if you get
the answer right, you're building some trust with yourself and
then having a very clear, specific, defined target. And I'm
talking when you do this on the golf course. Pick
something specific and say, Okay, I tend to curve the
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golf ball from right to left. I'm going to try
and get this thing about twenty feet right of the flag.
That's where I wanted to finish. Okay, where do I
need to start the golf ball to achieve that goal?
To me, that is motive, purpose, intent, intention, that's I'm
intending to do something. So you're also kind of building
a narrative in your head of on every shot. Okay,
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let me ask myself what the yardage is here? Okay,
let me see if I'm right, Then where am I
trying to start the golf ball for the shape that
I'm trying to hit? Okay, then let me pick out
a really specific target and then yeah, I mean, you
can have some swing thoughts, you can have some ideas
of what you're trying to do from a golf swing standpoint,
but then I think you've got to get out of
that mode and then get into play mode. Right the
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vision fifty four mantra of think box playbox. Okay, you're
in the think box, and then when you're hitting the shot,
you're in the playbox trying to turn your brain off.
But I do think going out on the golf course
and having you know, some visualization of where you're trying
to start the golf ball and the window that you're
trying to start the golf ball in. I think having
a goal of saying, listen, if I could just hit
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my irons twenty thirty feet right of the flag, twenty
thirty feet left the flag. There were a couple holes
with a wedge where I was out with this junior
and I was like, okay, I want you to hit
a little draw in here. So we went shorter the
to the green, you know, inside of one hundred and
twenty yards. So I said, listen, hit me a little
I think we were about ninety yards, and I gave
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him a club and I said, listen, hit me a
little low. What you feel like is a little low
draw right, and you've got to try and land this.
And the pin was in the middle of the green,
I said, and you're going to try and land this
fifteen twenty feet and have this end up fifteen twenty
feet short of the flag. So it was uphill, so
that way you have an uphill pot. And so I said,
same thing, Okay, where's your target? Got the target and
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you know the flag? Okay, where are you trying to
start this golf ball? Where do you want the golf
ball to finish? So ask yourself those questions every time
you hit an iron shot, and every time you hit
a driver as well. What shape am I trying to hit?
Where do I want the golf ball to start? Where
do I want the golf ball to finish? Are you
going to start it where you want to every time? No?
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Is it going to finish where you want to every time? No?
It doesn't do that. For Rory McElroy, Scotti, Scheffler, Nellie Corda,
Lydia Co, all the best players in the world, they
don't hit it perfect every time. But I think if
you start asking yourself those questions, it's going to challenge
you to come up with an answer. Okay, okay, I've
got the pin. Okay, where do I want the ball
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to start? And how much curve am I going to have?
If you're a higher handicapped player, the ball is probably
going to curve a good deal a good amount, So
allow for that. I read that. You know, if you
think back to the PGA that Scotty Scheffler just won.
He didn't hit it great on the front nine. Right,
he was over par and he was missing a lot
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of his balls left. Scott, I mean missed it left
on the first couple holes. I mean the first hole
from the middle of the fairway, hit it in the
left bunker. Second hole, trying to hit a fade over
the trees, double crossed it left. Everything was left on
the front And I read that it was Teddy Scott's
caddy that said, Hey, maybe we're just to aim over there.
Maybe we're aimed too far left, And that would make
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sense to me, right, that tracks for me. I mean
you're missing it. You're trying to fade the golf ball,
and you are a fader of the golf ball like
Scotti Scheffler is, and the control all delete. If you're
missing it left, he's going to be all right, let
me just aim a little bit more left and hit
a little bit more of a cut. And so all
the balls on the front looked like they were going
left and missing left. And so it was Teddy Scott
that said, Hey, maybe we're just aimed too far left.
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Why don't we aim just a little straighter aim what
you feel like is a little bit more to the right,
and then from then on Scotty started to flush it.
So having a recipe, a formula, a plan on every shot,
I know it sounds really really kind of basic and
really really simple, but I do think that there is
power in that. There is power in saying, Okay, what
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do I want to do on this shot? What am
I going to try and do on this shot? And
then to execute the shot, where do I need to
start the golf ball? Where do I need the golf
ball to finish? And I just don't think those questions
are asked enough by players to themselves. I just don't Richard,
target the pin? Okay, how are you going to get
the ball to the pin? Where do you want the
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ball to start? Where do you want the ball to finish?
And I think having a focus, there are times on
the golf course where you need internal focus, right, you
need feels and things in your golf swing. But I
just see so many players on the golf course when
they're playing and they're playing the game just get so
wrapped up into the internal focus and there's no external focus.
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Where are you aiming? Where do you want the golf
ball to start? Where do you want the golf ball
to finish? What club are you going to use for that?
And I think if most golfers from the middle of
the fairway would employ the same kind of technique that
they use when they get into the trees. Sometimes you
hit one into the trees and what you're looking for
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is a way out of the trees, right, so you've
kind of hit it into jail and you're looking for
a way out of jail, and so you'll looking through
the trees. Sometimes you just see a gap in the tree. Right,
you see a gap, you see an opening, and you're like,
it's a perfect shot for an eight iron to kind
of go right through that gap. And it's almost like
you can't see anything else, right, So now the only
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thing you're looking at is that gap that you feel
like you can hit this shot out of. And I
think if you could kind of have that laser hyper focus,
but do it from the middle of the fairway and say, Okay,
where does this ball need to start and what is
the formula that I'm gonna use to start it in
this direction? And the self talk then can be in
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your head about the things that you're going to do,
and the things that you're going to try and do
to execute a good shot. And I think so many
players on the golf course just get so wrapped up.
They're just trying to not hit bad shots. They're just
trying to not make a bad swing. They're trying to
not hit it in the water, trying to not hit
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it out of bounds, trying to three putt, trying to
not leave it in the bunker. And I just think
that leads to hitting it in the water, three putting,
not getting out of the bunker, because all you're trying
to do is not do something. You're not telling yourself, Okay,
this is what I'm going to attempt to do. This
is what I'm going to try and do, and this
is the formula, this is the recipe, this is kind
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of my plan to execute this. You're not gonna do
it every time, but if the focus is on hitting
good shots, I'm going to do everything I can do
here to try and hit a good shot. I'm going
to do everything I can do here to try and
hit a good putt, and maybe employing some intention, some visualization,
and having the focus be maybe just a little bit
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more external and less internal internal focus. I think is
really really good when you're thinking about body movements, body
parts and all that. There's a time and a place
for that. I think the range is a really good
place for that. But once the game starts, you've got
to try and play the game as opposed to go
out and play golf swing. And that's what I see
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most golfers doing. He's on the golf course that they
are playing golf swing. They're not playing golf. They're not visualizing.
There's no motive, purpose intent on any of the shots.
The motive and the purpose and the intent on the
shot is to just not hit a bad one. And
I would say for the majority of golfers, there's nothing
worse when all you're trying to do, you know, mentally,
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when all you're trying to do is not hit a
bad shot, and you hit a bad shot, you never
even focused on hitting a good shot. You never even
picked out a specific target that you were trying to
start the golf ball out. You never even thought about
where you wanted the golf ball to finish. So I
say this all the time. Having a good golf swing,
having good technique, having great impact, all of those things
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help you improve as a player. But unless you were
going to play golf in just a simulator controlled environment
kind of vacuum, and only play when your golf swing
is perfect, only play when you're hitting it good, only
play when you have command over your shape, you're going
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to probably play the majority of your golf feeling like
you don't have it, feeling like your golf swing isn't great.
And if you're going to continue to still play golf
with a golf swing that isn't perfect, that doesn't have
great mechanics, that has some flaws, that has some issues,
I've got a news flash. That's basically everybody playing golf right.
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But if you are going to play, and you are
going to play the game, and the focus when you
go out and play is to try and shoot the
lowest score, intention, visualization and external focus on the golf
course I think can help you play better and can
help improve your scores. So golf swing, everybody's trying to
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have better golf swing, but think better on the golf
course and think your way through your rounds, and I
think you will start to some results. Can't thank everybody
enough for listening. I think we're almost at two and
a half million downloads. For the pod in a couple
of years, which to me I still am blown away by.
So thank everyone for listening. Try and get this out
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every single week. Obviously with my travel schedule it can
be tough at times. But Little US open preview next week.
It's the Son of a Butcher Podcast
It's the son of a butch podcast. I'm your host,
Claude Horman solo episode of the pod this week. But
before we get to that, it was four years ago
this week that the podcast started. Now read was my
first guest, and four years on, I think we're close
to two and a half million downloads. I continue to
be amazed at people listen. To be honest with you,
I travel probably twenty twenty five weeks a year all
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over the globe. People no matter where I am, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Bangkok, Thailand, Singapore,
someone will come up to me and say, hey, listen
to the podcast, and that just blows me away. And yeah,
I mean I do it all myself. Obviously, with my
travel schedule it can get a little bit taxing at times,
but I travel with podcast bag, record everything, get all
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the guests myself, and just do it all. It's a
labor of love and we'll keep doing it. We'll keep
trying to get as many good guests as we can
and come up with as many topics as possible to
help you improve your game. And once again, I can't
thank everybody enough for supporting and listening. It really does
mean a lot to me. So I spent a lot
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of time obviously as a golf instructor on the podcast
talking about technique and things like that. But one of
the things, if you've listened over the last couple of years,
I think execution is as important as having great technique. Yes, obviously,
having great technique is a huge part of getting better
at golf. If your golf swing improves, if your technique improves,
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if your positions improve, all of that, right, But if
you are going to play golf on a regular basis,
your golf swing and your golf game is going to
be in a constant state of flux change. It's never
really going to be the same all the time. And
even at that tour level, the best players in the world,
their game isn't great all the time. Obviously, Yes, when
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the best players in the world are playing their best,
Scottie Scheffler, Ry McElroy, John Rahm, Brooks, Koepka, any of
the players right Xander, when they're playing their best like
last year, Xander, two majors playing great this year, no
majors so far right hasn't played the way he's played
last year. Guys, that's just golf. I mean, golf is tough,
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but I see so many players that come and take
lessons from me, and I just look at the way
that they're trying to go about getting better. Yes, they're
trying to take golf lessons. Yes they're trying to improve
their golf swings, their technique and stuff. But I was
with a junior golfer I help, and we went out
on the golf course and we're hitting shots on the course. Yesterday,
This kid, you know, ranked inside the top one hundred
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and junior golf scoreboard, probably will end up playing Division
one college golf, wins tournaments, a really really good player,
and it's got a beautiful golf swing. Technique is really
really solid. And so we were out on the golf
course and we were going out and I specifically wanted
to go out and just hit shots on the course.
We weren't hitting drives, we were just going to the fairway.
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We were randomizing the numbers out on the golf course
on the different holes. Here at Floridian. He likes to
draw the golf ball, so I was like, Okay, let's
pick out really specific targets on where we want the
golf ball to start. And then let's be really really
specific in where we want the golf ball to start
and where we want the golf ball to finish. And
so what I was trying to talk to him about is, listen,
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why don't we just go out and we're just trying
to hit either left or right of it the flag.
So he likes to draw it, So I was like, okay.
So we went out to a par three. So water
down the left hand side of this par three, probably
about one hundred and I think we were playing it yesterday,
right around one hundred and sixty five hundred and seventy yards.
Pin was in the back left hand portion of the green,
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and there is a raised up area on the right
hand and then there's a slope so they can put
a pin on kind of a shelf on the right
hand side of this green, which is a really tough
pin position. And then the other difficult pin position on
this whole is back left because anything left of the flag,
anything left of the green, is going to go into
the water. So you've got to control your trajectory. You've
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got to control how much curve you've got. So I
think he was probably seven iron, eight iron something like that.
Stood up and I watched him go ahead and hit
the shot, and he got up and he kind of,
you know, got behind the golf ball, made a couple
of practice swings, and from I noticed from the time
that he started making his practice swings. So once he
finished his practice swings and he was getting ready to
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get into the shot and hit it, I just watched
his head and I watched his eyes. And so from
the time he got behind the golf ball and then
started walking into it, and I noticed his head and
he's looking at the golf ball. So he gets into
his set up. He's kind of staring at the golf
ball and going through some waggles, quick glance at the target,
back to staring at the golf balls, a couple of
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rehearsal backswings, you know, shuffling his feet, but again no
look at the target. Then quick glanced to the target
and back into looking at the ball, shuffling his feet,
all those things, and then he hit one. So he
hit two shots. They weren't great. One of them went
over the green, one of them came up a little
bit short, and so I mentioned that to him, and
I said, listen, you are daring at the golf ball
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and just kind of quickly glancing at the target and
then back to staring at the golf ball and then
quick glance back to the target. Why don't we try
and do the opposite right, So, why don't you get
behind the golf ball? And then I said to him, listen,
I want a very specific target on where you're trying
to start the golf ball. So there was the flag
and then in the horizon behind them there was some,
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you know, a couple of trees, and then there was
a gap in the trees, and then there were some
more trees, and I said, listen, if you think about
what we're trying to do here, we're trying to hit
this ball twenty feet right of the flag pin high,
So really zone in on where you want this golf
ball to start, where you want this golf ball to curve.
And the idea that I've talked about on the pod
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before it's a game that I like to play with players,
is we give them a target whatever shape they're hitting,
whether they're hitting draws, whether they're hitting fades. We give
them ten balls. There's three points available, and then what
we do is you get your target and then you've
got kind of another target right of it, however, far
right of it you to go. That's player dependent, that's
up to you, and it's kind of ability dependent, right. Obviously,
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if you're not hitting it great and you're working on
a lot of things, give yourself a big winn. So
the idea that whether you're hitting a drawer or a fade,
but if you're hitting a draw, every time you're going
to hit a draw, go ahead and look at your target.
And what the launch monitors do is they basically look
at where your ball is. When you work with a
launch monitor, it basically is tracking kind of a line
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from your golf ball to the target, and then there's
the right side of that, there's the left side of that.
But every time you're going to hit a shot, look
at your target. If you're going to try and hit
a draw, what you're going to do is you're going
to open up a window right of the target. Right,
you've got a launch window and your target obviously the
flag that's where you're trying to hit the golf ball too.
But what I see most players do is they're just
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hyper hyper focused on the target. If they're even looking
at the target right. So they're going to try and
hit it at the flag. So what I was saying
to this player yesterday, this junior, Okay, let's look at
where we're trying to start the golf ball. You know,
what is our launch window of where we're trying to
start it. And he kind of came up with a tree.
He said, okay, that's kind of my out of bounds
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on the right. I don't want to start it anymore
right of that. So from behind the ball, you know,
he had a very clear kind of window of where
he was trying to hit it. So he's trying to
start it in that window, curve it in that window,
have it stay in that window, and hit it solid.
And that's the game that we play on the range. Right,
I give him ten balls, tell them to pick a
target out and then I say, all right, you know
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we've got a flag right of that. We got another
flag right of that, we got another flag right of that.
You choose which one as kind of your barrier on
the right hand side. So that's kind of an out
of bounds line, and then you've got to start the
golf ball in that kind of launch window. You get
a point for that. You get a point if it
curves and stays in the launch window. So that's two points,
and then you get a point if you hit it solid.
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So we were on the course and I said, listen,
you've just hit two balls and you're not even looking
really at the target. You're just kind of glancing, you know,
at the target for like a second, and then you're
kind of staring at the staring at your body, staring
at all of the stuff that is not moving right,
and you haven't even hit the ball yet. So I said, listen,
I want you to stare at the target, glance at
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the ball. Stare at the target, glance at the ball.
So he stood up, got behind it, and I filmed
both of these. I filmed the first one where I
showed him listen, go ahead and take a look at
this last video. And he's like, yeah, I'm not even
I'm barely even looking at the target. And I said,
so you're staring at the ball. What are you staring
at the ball for? The ball's not going to move right.
It's not a moving ball right in golf unless the
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ball moves on its own, or the ground moves, the
ball rolls down hill or something. The ball is stationary.
It's going to stay in the same place. And I
think so many golfers are worried so much about their
technique and their golf swing and their mechanics and all that.
And again, all of that is important, right, It's important
part of playing golf. It's an important part of improving golf.
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But as I said in the opening, your golf swing
isn't going to be perfect every day. Your golf swing
probably has never going to be perfect. So when you're
on the golf course, you've got to figure out where
you're trying to hit the golf ball. And I think
where you're trying to hit the golf ball and where
you're trying to start the golf ball, he is majorly important.
And so I filmed this player on the first shot
staring at the ball, glancing at the target, staring at
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the ball, glancing at the target. Didn't hit two great shots.
I said, all right, so let's reverse that. Want you
to from the time you get behind the golf ball.
It just wants you to really focus in and stare
at where you want the ball to start, not where
you want the ball to finish, where you want the
ball to start, and just control your start line and
so I filmed it, and he got up and got
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behind it, and all of a sudden, the walk into
the ball was a little bit slower because he wasn't
staring at the ball. He was kind of looking at
the target. And then he got in and got his
feet set and he was looking at the target. Then
he looked down at the golf ball for a second,
and then back into staring at where he's trying to
start the golf ball. He did some of his waggles again,
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but staring more at the target than the golf ball.
And then he got up hit a beautiful high little draw,
started it on the right hand part of the green
and started it kind of over where this top shelf is,
and then landed it on the slope and then one
bounced it started to go down to the hole, rolling
like a putt, and he lippt it out. I mean,
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he almost made it. And then I showed him that
and he was like, wow, that looks really different. It
looked more, he said, it looked slower. I said, I
don't know if it's slower. I think maybe it's just
more purposeful and stuff. And so I started thinking about that,
and so for the rest of the holes that we play.
It was the same type thing, Okay, hit this one.
And so what I was doing is I was challenging
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him with his shape. Right, he likes to draw the
golf ball from right to left, So I was saying, Okay,
on some holes, we're going to try and have the
ball finish twenty feet right of the flag, and then
on some of the holes, we're going to try and
have the ball finish twenty feet left of the flag.
So getting him to think about where he was wanting
the ball to finish and not necessarily being so hyper
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focused on where the pin was in the flag. So
to me, I think one of the things that's really
important for golfers and is important when you're hitting shots
is your intent. Your intention, What are you trying to do?
What is the formula of what you're trying to do?
What is the recipe of what you're trying to do?
And I think so many golfers have a clear picture
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in their head of what they're trying to do when
they're working on their technique, right when they're working on
positions and their golf swing, and when they're working on
mechanics and working on trying not to let the backswing
get too inside, working on not letting the backswing get
to outside. Whatever mechanical thoughts or technical thoughts you're using
in your golf swing. But when you get out on
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the golf course, it's hard to play thinking of all
of the things that you're trying to work on in
your golf swing. And then I think the focus becomes
on the golf course really really internal, to where the
focus is about a specific body part, a specific muscle,
a specific body motion. That's all the internal focus. And
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I just see a lot of players struggle on the
golf course because there's no external focus, right, There's no
focus on what is this lie going to do? What
is this slope that I'm on going to do? What
is that going to do? To the shape? The ball's
below my feet, what's the ball going to do? How's
that going to affect it? If the ball is above
my feet, what is the ball going to do? And
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again going back to this junior that I was saying, okay,
and then what is your intent on this shot? And
so what I started doing was asking this player, this junior, okay,
talk me through what you're going to do, and not
your technique, not Okay, I want the backswing to go
a little bit more on the inside, want it to
be a little bit shorter than I want to try
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and shallow it out and kind of drop it underneath
and do all that. No, I don't need to know
any of the I want to know what type of
shot you're trying to hit. Okay, you tell me you're
gonna hit a little draw, great, Okay, where's your target? Okay?
Obviously there's the flag. Okay, So where do you want
the ball to start? And then what I did was
I got him verbally going through that, you know, standing
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behind the golf ball and saying, okay, what do we
got here? Where's the wind? What's the distance? Okay? So
first of all, what's the distance? And one of the
things that I try and do with junior golfers, and
I think it's something that everybody could benefit from, is
when you walk up and I think I've said this before,
but when you walk up to an iron shot, you
stand up and you're going to hit one, don't take
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out your rangefinder, don't look for a yardage marker. Ask
yourself how far you think the flag is away from you?
Just ask yourself that first question, come up with a
number and say, yeah, that looks probably one fifty five.
Get your range finder. Okay, it was one fifty eight,
it's one fifty seven. Good. If you think it's one
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fifty five and you hit your rain finder and it's
one eighty, that's a problem. And I think building that
kind of trust with yourself of Okay, I know what
the yardage is. I can see that visually. I think
visualization on the golf course. There's a lot of ways
that we visualize things, but I think distance control, depth perception,
and things like that is something that a lot of
people don't really kind of practice, they don't really test,
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And I think if you can start doing that is
the first thing you do when you get up to
your golf ball is just ask yourself, okay, without any calculations,
without a yardage book, without a rangefinder, without looking at
a yardage marker, looking where the one fifty. You know,
some golf courses are going to have plates on the
ground that are going to give you yardages, you know,
just basic yardages one hundred, one fifty, one seventy five,
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or sometimes they have the markers on the side of
the fairways, right, so you know that's one hundred yard marker.
And then obviously the fancier of the club, the more
you know details the yardages are going to be. They're
going to give you yardage to the front, they're going
to give you yardage to the middle, they're going to
give you yardage back, whatever it is. But I think
if you ask yourself first what is the yardage, and
then use your rangefinder to test to see if you're right.
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Hopefully you're rangefinder or whatever yardage device that you're using,
plates things in the ground or on the course. Hopefully
you're right. You know. I think most golfers now they're
competitive and serious about their golf have rangefinders. So walk
up to it, take a look at it. Yeah, I
think it's one sixty five. Go ahead and scope it. Yeah,
you know it's one sixty three, it's one sixty, it's whatever.
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Then ask yourself, Okay, what club am I going to hit?
I think building in for the miss, So I think
early in the round a good thing to do is
maybe take one more club and swing easy so you
don't have to kind of jump out of your shoes
and you know you're playing on the golf course. Play
for the miss don't play for the good shot. Play
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for okay, if I miss it, let me just take
enough club. So if I miss hit this a little bit,
I've got enough club that's gonna maybe get it on
the green. So choosing the club and then ask yourself, okay,
where's the flag? Okay, And then dependent on the shape
that you're trying to hit. Let's say you're trying to
hit a draw, use the backdrop, use the horizon, use
the trees, use whatever you've got, and say, Okay, I'm
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gonna try and hit this golf ball pin high, so
you know anywhere. I mean, if you could dump all
of your golf balls twenty to thirty feet left or
right of the pin, you'd probably lower your scores in
a pretty quick fashion and start to play pretty good.
So just think, let me just hit this to twenty feet.
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That's a good shot with an iron. Right, That is
a really really good shot with an iron. I was watching,
you know, at the PGA at Quail Hollow down the
stretch on Sunday. I was doing this with a couple
of juniors earlier in the week, and we were going
back and watching shots, and you know, John Rahm Sunday,
tied for the lead. Part three, stands up and it's
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a beautiful shot to about twenty feet from two hundred
and twelve yards lip the put out. I think that
was at thirteen, But a really quality iron shot in
a major championship on the back nine on Sunday, tied
for the lead, two hundred and twelve yard par three,
twenty feet great shot, Just a great shot in those circumstances.
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If anybody was watching, lit the put out, still trying
to figure out how that didn't go in Scotti Scheffler.
Just quality iron shots, right, So just trying to hit
it twenty feet left of it, twenty feet right of it,
pin high, and then say, Okay, where do I want
this golf ball to start? Not where do I want
the golf ball to finish? Where do I want the
golf ball to start? I think if you're asking yourself
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that question, first of all, if you're asking yourself, okay,
how far do I think this yardage is without a rangefinder?
That's a question you're asking yourself, and if you get
the answer right, you're building some trust with yourself and
then having a very clear, specific, defined target. And I'm
talking when you do this on the golf course. Pick
something specific and say, Okay, I tend to curve the
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golf ball from right to left. I'm going to try
and get this thing about twenty feet right of the flag.
That's where I wanted to finish. Okay, where do I
need to start the golf ball to achieve that goal?
To me, that is motive, purpose, intent, intention, that's I'm
intending to do something. So you're also kind of building
a narrative in your head of on every shot. Okay,
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let me ask myself what the yardage is here? Okay,
let me see if I'm right, Then where am I
trying to start the golf ball for the shape that
I'm trying to hit? Okay, then let me pick out
a really specific target and then yeah, I mean, you
can have some swing thoughts, you can have some ideas
of what you're trying to do from a golf swing standpoint,
but then I think you've got to get out of
that mode and then get into play mode. Right the
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vision fifty four mantra of think box playbox. Okay, you're
in the think box, and then when you're hitting the shot,
you're in the playbox trying to turn your brain off.
But I do think going out on the golf course
and having you know, some visualization of where you're trying
to start the golf ball and the window that you're
trying to start the golf ball in. I think having
a goal of saying, listen, if I could just hit
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my irons twenty thirty feet right of the flag, twenty
thirty feet left the flag. There were a couple holes
with a wedge where I was out with this junior
and I was like, okay, I want you to hit
a little draw in here. So we went shorter the
to the green, you know, inside of one hundred and
twenty yards. So I said, listen, hit me a little
I think we were about ninety yards, and I gave
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him a club and I said, listen, hit me a
little low. What you feel like is a little low
draw right, and you've got to try and land this.
And the pin was in the middle of the green,
I said, and you're going to try and land this
fifteen twenty feet and have this end up fifteen twenty
feet short of the flag. So it was uphill, so
that way you have an uphill pot. And so I said,
same thing, Okay, where's your target? Got the target and
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you know the flag? Okay, where are you trying to
start this golf ball? Where do you want the golf
ball to finish? So ask yourself those questions every time
you hit an iron shot, and every time you hit
a driver as well. What shape am I trying to hit?
Where do I want the golf ball to start? Where
do I want the golf ball to finish? Are you
going to start it where you want to every time? No?
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Is it going to finish where you want to every time? No?
It doesn't do that. For Rory McElroy, Scotti, Scheffler, Nellie Corda,
Lydia Co, all the best players in the world, they
don't hit it perfect every time. But I think if
you start asking yourself those questions, it's going to challenge
you to come up with an answer. Okay, okay, I've
got the pin. Okay, where do I want the ball
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to start? And how much curve am I going to have?
If you're a higher handicapped player, the ball is probably
going to curve a good deal a good amount, So
allow for that. I read that. You know, if you
think back to the PGA that Scotty Scheffler just won.
He didn't hit it great on the front nine. Right,
he was over par and he was missing a lot
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of his balls left. Scott, I mean missed it left
on the first couple holes. I mean the first hole
from the middle of the fairway, hit it in the
left bunker. Second hole, trying to hit a fade over
the trees, double crossed it left. Everything was left on
the front And I read that it was Teddy Scott's
caddy that said, Hey, maybe we're just to aim over there.
Maybe we're aimed too far left, And that would make
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sense to me, right, that tracks for me. I mean
you're missing it. You're trying to fade the golf ball,
and you are a fader of the golf ball like
Scotti Scheffler is, and the control all delete. If you're
missing it left, he's going to be all right, let
me just aim a little bit more left and hit
a little bit more of a cut. And so all
the balls on the front looked like they were going
left and missing left. And so it was Teddy Scott
that said, Hey, maybe we're just aimed too far left.
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Why don't we aim just a little straighter aim what
you feel like is a little bit more to the right,
and then from then on Scotty started to flush it.
So having a recipe, a formula, a plan on every shot,
I know it sounds really really kind of basic and
really really simple, but I do think that there is
power in that. There is power in saying, Okay, what
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do I want to do on this shot? What am
I going to try and do on this shot? And
then to execute the shot, where do I need to
start the golf ball? Where do I need the golf
ball to finish? And I just don't think those questions
are asked enough by players to themselves. I just don't Richard,
target the pin? Okay, how are you going to get
the ball to the pin? Where do you want the
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ball to start? Where do you want the ball to finish?
And I think having a focus, there are times on
the golf course where you need internal focus, right, you
need feels and things in your golf swing. But I
just see so many players on the golf course when
they're playing and they're playing the game just get so
wrapped up into the internal focus and there's no external focus.
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Where are you aiming? Where do you want the golf
ball to start? Where do you want the golf ball
to finish? What club are you going to use for that?
And I think if most golfers from the middle of
the fairway would employ the same kind of technique that
they use when they get into the trees. Sometimes you
hit one into the trees and what you're looking for
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is a way out of the trees, right, so you've
kind of hit it into jail and you're looking for
a way out of jail, and so you'll looking through
the trees. Sometimes you just see a gap in the tree. Right,
you see a gap, you see an opening, and you're like,
it's a perfect shot for an eight iron to kind
of go right through that gap. And it's almost like
you can't see anything else, right, So now the only
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thing you're looking at is that gap that you feel
like you can hit this shot out of. And I
think if you could kind of have that laser hyper focus,
but do it from the middle of the fairway and say, Okay,
where does this ball need to start and what is
the formula that I'm gonna use to start it in
this direction? And the self talk then can be in
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your head about the things that you're going to do,
and the things that you're going to try and do
to execute a good shot. And I think so many
players on the golf course just get so wrapped up.
They're just trying to not hit bad shots. They're just
trying to not make a bad swing. They're trying to
not hit it in the water, trying to not hit
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it out of bounds, trying to three putt, trying to
not leave it in the bunker. And I just think
that leads to hitting it in the water, three putting,
not getting out of the bunker, because all you're trying
to do is not do something. You're not telling yourself, Okay,
this is what I'm going to attempt to do. This
is what I'm going to try and do, and this
is the formula, this is the recipe, this is kind
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of my plan to execute this. You're not gonna do
it every time, but if the focus is on hitting
good shots, I'm going to do everything I can do
here to try and hit a good shot. I'm going
to do everything I can do here to try and
hit a good putt, and maybe employing some intention, some visualization,
and having the focus be maybe just a little bit
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more external and less internal internal focus. I think is
really really good when you're thinking about body movements, body
parts and all that. There's a time and a place
for that. I think the range is a really good
place for that. But once the game starts, you've got
to try and play the game as opposed to go
out and play golf swing. And that's what I see
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most golfers doing. He's on the golf course that they
are playing golf swing. They're not playing golf. They're not visualizing.
There's no motive, purpose intent on any of the shots.
The motive and the purpose and the intent on the
shot is to just not hit a bad one. And
I would say for the majority of golfers, there's nothing
worse when all you're trying to do, you know, mentally,
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when all you're trying to do is not hit a
bad shot, and you hit a bad shot, you never
even focused on hitting a good shot. You never even
picked out a specific target that you were trying to
start the golf ball out. You never even thought about
where you wanted the golf ball to finish. So I
say this all the time. Having a good golf swing,
having good technique, having great impact, all of those things
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help you improve as a player. But unless you were
going to play golf in just a simulator controlled environment
kind of vacuum, and only play when your golf swing
is perfect, only play when you're hitting it good, only
play when you have command over your shape, you're going
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to probably play the majority of your golf feeling like
you don't have it, feeling like your golf swing isn't great.
And if you're going to continue to still play golf
with a golf swing that isn't perfect, that doesn't have
great mechanics, that has some flaws, that has some issues,
I've got a news flash. That's basically everybody playing golf right.
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But if you are going to play, and you are
going to play the game, and the focus when you
go out and play is to try and shoot the
lowest score, intention, visualization and external focus on the golf
course I think can help you play better and can
help improve your scores. So golf swing, everybody's trying to
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have better golf swing, but think better on the golf
course and think your way through your rounds, and I
think you will start to some results. Can't thank everybody
enough for listening. I think we're almost at two and
a half million downloads. For the pod in a couple
of years, which to me I still am blown away by.
So thank everyone for listening. Try and get this out
(27:15):
every single week. Obviously with my travel schedule it can
be tough at times. But Little US open preview next week.
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