July 19, 2023 • 52 mins
International Psychic Medium & Mentor Lindsay Marino talks about the influence her Catholic upbringing had on her, losing her boyfriend at a young age, and how she uses her 3rd grade teacher past to help others develop their mediumship gifts.
Topics:
- What is evidential psychic mediumship?
- Is mediumship a sin?
- Does being a medium change the way you grieve?
- Visitations & signs from spirit
- How Lindsay developed her gifts through the tragic loss of her boyfriend
- The concept that time is not linear
As an evidential psychic medium, Lindsay receives names, facts, and specific memories from spirit. She connects the evidence she receives with the presence of the deceased loved one in readings for her clients.
Being raised Catholic, Lindsay didn't know if she believed in psychics or whether the skill was a sin. After experiencing her own loss, Lindsay realized her gifts were loving, and she was able to recognize the healing that happens from a reading which changed her belief system.
Lindsay’s gifts developed with the loss of her boyfriend when she was 23 years old. It began with a visitation, then he came through a medium to a friend, which led Lindsay to begin the practice of automatic writing and taking classes to develop her mediumship. The signs she experienced kept her going and she knew that she wasn’t alone.
The conversation Lindsay had with her boyfriend the week before he passed helped her more than anything else. Amanda explains that time is not linear and how the divine pieces of the puzzle come together in miraculous ways that are not linear or logical.
Lindsay talks about how she teaches her students how to develop and fine tune their mediumship skills and gives more tips on preparing for a psychic reading:
- It’s much easier to read someone who is open and curious with a seekers outlook
- Focus on something comfortable, familiar, joyful, or happy to put your energy at ease for your reading
- Some people are ready for a reading and some people aren’t - and that’s okay
Quote:
“Being a medium doesn’t change the human aspect because you’re still dealing with the pain, but you know the bigger picture and you know they’re around us and that helps…that’s what got me moving through my grief instead of avoiding it” - Lindsay Marino
More from Lindsay Marino:
https://www.instagram.com/lindsaymarinomedium/
https://lindsaymarino.com/the-lindsay-and-tony-psychic-medium-podcast/
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hi, everyone, It's Amanda Rieger Green. Welcome to Souls Sessions today.
I am thrilled to introduce you to my guest, Lindsay Marino.
She is an internationally recognized evidential psychic medium. She helps
other psychic mediums develop their gifts and grow their businesses.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
She's also a.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Former third grade teacher. She lives in Florida. She's married
and just as down to earth and accessible as they come.
Welcome Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I'm so excited to have this conversation today.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I am thrilled to have this conversation. I found Lindsay
on social media a couple of years ago, just in
shared interest and like I was telling Lindsay before we
got on the call, probably following intuition, psychic medium is hashtags,
and she popped up one day and there's sometimes just
those people we connect with or we're drawn to, and
(01:08):
I followed her for quite a bit, so I am
excited to dive into a conversation around mediumship. First of all, Lindsay,
can you tell our listeners what evidential psychic mediumship is
and means and how you practice that before we even
talk about it. How you have developed your gifts. How
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does that show up for you?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Yes, okay, so that's a great question. A lot of
people ask me this. And evidential mediumship is when I
get facts based off of the past level one that's
coming through. It could be about memories that they had
in this life. It might even be the job that
they had. Sometimes they'll even share their name. Not always,
but sometimes.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That will come through.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
And then really things that you can actually prove by
talking to the person that's receiving the reading. So it's
just evidence based messages, but I like to mix the
evidence with the presence of past loved ones. So it's
not just like, Okay, I'm just going to give a
bunch of facts.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And you know that's it.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
There's going to be some sort of healing that takes
place with it.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I like to fix that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, I love that, And I love that you just
said you connect the evidence with the presence because that's
where the essence is. But oftentimes I know for me
and the way that my gifts of mediumship work, and
they are evidential, but oftentimes it's connecting the essence and
the memory, and we need tangible things, we need facts,
(02:35):
We need for me with my loved ones that have passed,
I have such vivid memories and things that are personal.
And when I know that with clients, when they hear
that personal element, it also helps someone's energy feel to
relax and become more open. And I'm sure you experience
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that with people when people do open up and there's
that help the vulnerability that exist, and then I'm sure
you also experience it with people are resistant.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Does that resonate, Yes, totally.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And it's funny because I actually was that skeptical person.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I remember getting dragged.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
To go to it was a psychic when I.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Was in high school and my friend said, just come
with me and get a psychic reading. And I was like, oh,
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
This is a sin.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I don't know if I want to because I'm Catholic,
and I went there. Anyways, I did go there, and
I was one of those people where I was like
crossing my arms and I felt uncomfortable. I didn't even
know what I believed, and she was kind of sent
sharing general information in my mind at that point, and
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Open to it.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
And when you're not open to it, it's actually harder
to read the person, so it just makes it ten
thousand times harder. So I usually the people that come
to me are pretty open, but I've experienced some that
I can remember very clearly because it felt like I
was walking through glue trying to get information from their
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past loved ones.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And it was evidential.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
But they're like, well, you know, anyone could have that happen,
so they weren't open to it, you know, so it
really makes a big difference. It's almost like a triangle.
I always compare it to like this triangle where we're
connecting in with the past loved ones as the medium
and the sitter receiving the reading.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Is also staying open to kind of go back.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Into their minds, into their heart and thinking, wait, do
I remember that memory?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Did that come up?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And of course I don't want people saying yes, want
it's a know, but don't shake your head no before
the info comes out fully, you know, that really.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Can be hard.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That makes so much sense, And I love that you
said when someone's energy isn't open, it's like walking through glue.
That's the way that I feel it. It's almost like
I am just going against the current. You know, when
a wave knock you down and you get up and
then the next wave comes. It gets exhaustive. And I
love doing what I do and I know that you
do because it shows all over your energy field and
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it comes from the heart. It's a gift and it's
not us, you know, it's just God working through us.
But it isn't as fun and open when somebody is
continues to remain skeptical. And I think healthy skepticism is important.
That's how we discern, that's how we listen, that's how
we grow. But when somebody doesn't want it, and I'm
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like you too, most people who come to me are
open and curious and seeking and searching for answers, so
it usually is pretty aligned. But yeah, when it isn't,
we feel it and it does make it difficult.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, it does, and I usually have to stop the reading.
Like the few times that has happened, I've actually said, okay,
let's just take a moment and take.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
A breath, and I want you to close your eyes.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And I always tell my students this because a lot
of them are like, what happens if you get someone,
it's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But I always say.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
To do something that will cause them to open their heart.
So even if it's a moment of just saying I
know you might not realize it, but you might be nervous,
or something's happening where.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
There is a feeling I can't get in there.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
So I want you to close your eyes and think
of something that makes you happy. Whether it's a baby
or a puppy, you know something that makes your heart
happy and that really does something just by.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Calling it out.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, and in a really compassionate, loving way too, Because
I will tell you this. There have been times when
I'm reading and someone is very closed off, and then
it reverberates back onto me and I begin to take
on their energy. I begin to feel insecure. I begin
to question my gifts, questioning what's coming through. And from
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years of doing this, I know that I get out
of the way and I don't question. Even if it
makes no sense to me. Usually it will make crystal
clear sense to them and I know not to question.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So I love that you shared about saying, hey, let's
take a minute and then refocusing on something heart centered, familiar, comfortable, happy, joyful,
because mediumship really and developing our intuition connecting with our spirit.
And that's one of the things that you say is
mediumship isn't just about connecting with loved ones on the
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other side, it's connecting with our soul, with God, our truth,
our knowing is it is really about our developing that
dialogue with something greater. I want to go back to
what you said. That is very striking and a question
that comes up all the time you talk about being Catholic.
I am sure you get the question about your Catholicism,
(07:42):
your beliefs, your Christianity, your religion, and how that either
conflicts with or you know, parallels with your gifts. Talk
to me a little bit about that. And when people
ask you about you know where your gifts come from,
and if it is I'm just going to say it
a sin or something you know that is lower vibrational.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
How do you respond to that?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, so this is a common question. Actually a lot
of people that are Catholic end.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Up coming to me because on my website I talk
about being Catholic. So when I was little, I thought everything.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Was a sin.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Anything at CCD that I was told I believed, and
I was always praying to the blessed mother.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I wanted to be like Saint Catherine of Sienna.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
She was a saint that I had to do a
report on and she would pray the Heil Mary's on
each step.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I wanted to be like her. I was always holding
the rosary beads and everything. And it wasn't that my
parents put the pressure on me at all.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I think I put more of the pressure on myself
so I can relate in that way. But it wasn't
until my own love one past that I started to
recognize that, wait a second, this is really healing to
me that I'm receiving messages from my past loved one.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And it's okay, it's healing, it's loving.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
There's nothing that's happening that's not good.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
It's pure love, and it's proof that we don't die.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
And when that started to happen to me and I
started to open up to get messages for other people,
I started to recognize that same healing, and my belief
system changed. And I think at that point, when you're
in so much grief, when you just want.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
To connect with your past loved one.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
The whole religious aspect of it being a sin went
out the door, because I just want to connect with him.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I want to make sure that he's okay. So I
kind of deleted the religion.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Aspect of thinking it was a sin, and I'm just like,
I just want to connect, and it kind of broke
me open to think, wait, it doesn't have to be
so rigid and think this is a sin. So when
I talk to people, I tell them that story, and
I always say some people are ready and some people aren't.
And I would never push this on anyone, just like
when I was Catholic, I never pushed the idea that
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you have to be Catholic on people.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I would just do it.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
From a space of if someone asked me question, I
would answer it. And that's how I feel with mediumship too.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's not dogmatic, it's not rigid.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's actually expansive and it feels that way, just like
we were talking about energy and resistant energy. You are
very in tune and I am very in tune with
we feel when stuff is resistant versus when it's expansive,
open and fluid. And also I love that you said
you recognize through the loss of your loved one, and
I'm going to have you talk about that in a
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little bit and about the development of your gifts, the
genesis of that. But you talked about it was healing
and you wanted to know. Oh my goodness, you know,
the soul lives on. I know that with acute grief
and the grief that I've experienced and the loss of
loved ones. It's a human experience because the soul, while
they may be working through lessons and seeing things through
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a bigger you know, lens on the other side, as
far as their evolutionary aim and infinite growth, the human
self is what grieves and can be more separate than
through our ego. So the healing aspect of mediumship and
connection and that knowing and knowing that souls are with us,
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our loved ones are with us.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's not the same.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I lost my mom recently, and my dad's been deceased
for a long time. But I lost my mom and
she was very open, ready to go to the other side.
But all of the human things came up for me,
and of course we had lots of really rich dialogues
leading up to her crossing over, and the experience was
divine and profound, and it was heartbreaking and hard, you know,
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on the human side of things, and of course I
want to pick up the phone or text her. And
it's funny because I have that human moment of oh, shoot,
I can't do that, and then I almost you know,
about five seconds later laugh because it's like, well, she
already knew what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
She already knew. It's got already.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I picked up the phone or the text and it
was instantaneous because that moment I thought it or wanted
to share, and it was her connecting with me. But
it's of course it's not the same as having a
loved one right there. But I love the healing component
of what you just shared. Talk to me about your
experience in personal loss and how that catapulted.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You into mediumship. I think it's a beautiful story.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
So first, I know, I'm sorry, doesn't make a difference
when you're hearing that when you're grieving, But just I'm
acknowledging what you just shared about your mom, and I
had goosebumps when you just shared that, And it's so
beautiful that you had those.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I just got them too.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Oh, it's amazing that we're having this conversation.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I'm sure everyone listening is feeling the same.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, I feel like being a medium. It doesn't change
the human aspect because you're still dealing with the pain,
but you know the bigger picture and you know that
they're around us, and that helps me. That actually was
a thing that got me moving through my grief instead
of waiting it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So a lot of.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
People were very uncomfortable with me grieving for and I'm
putting in quotes for so long because they wanted me
to be happy.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
They wanted me to go out. I heard everything you
could think of.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You know, you should go and find someone else, You
shouldn't do this, you should do that.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
They didn't know how to handle it, and.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
For me, it might have been uncomfortable for them, but
I was going through everything was I was communicating with him.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
His name is Nick.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He was this was your boyfriend, your person.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yes, my boyfriend, and he had passed in a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So it was very Every.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Death is different, but it was just what I was
twenty three at the time, and I was just in
a space where you know, you think your life's going
to go one way and then all of a sudden
it flips upside down.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So for me, I was just like, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Need to get through this day or not even the day.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I just need to get through the morning and get
out of bed.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
But it was the conversations that we had before it
happened that actually helped me, because you know how you
said you had a conversation with your mom, Well, this
sort of in a different way. I had a conversation
with Nick because we went to church the Sunday before
and the whole mass was about grieving and what you
would do if someone passed.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And Okay, I have to stop you for a minute
because again and I have goosebumps because what you just
touched on is one of the things that I've learned.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And time.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
We know that time is not linear. We experience it
in a linear way. But it's so incredible how the
divine pieces of the puzzle are happening all the time,
and they may make sense later, they may never make sense.
They come together in these miraculous ways for messages that
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are not linear and not logical. Okay, so go back.
So you're you're in this church service talking about losing
lust ones.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, so go back.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So you're you're in this church service talking about losing
lush ones.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Right, And we had never been to church together before
this was the first and the last time we even
went to church.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
So it was all about grief and he dealt.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
With his own loss of his mom dying when she
was twelve.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
He was around the age of twelve. So he said,
if anything ever.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Happened to me, I wouldn't want anyone to go into debt.
I wouldn't want them to get into addiction. I'd want
them to and he would do this, keep on moving
through their life.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And I was like what.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I'm like, wait a second, So you're saying if I died,
then you wouldn't, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Be upset. He's like, no, that's not what I mean.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
But I want everyone to keep on going through their
life and live their life.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Because you got to keep on moving.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
And it was that message that he said to me
that really stuck with me. And I still tell that
story to people too, because it.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Kept me going. You know. I was it was my
second day of teaching the third grade. I was just
dragging myself to get out of bed.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
But I knew what he had said to me beforehand,
and I truly leave now that I know that the
soul knows before even the human knows, even all the
readings that I've done and you've probably experienced as before too.
They know they do things and say things that you
start to think about later after they passed, and you're like,
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why did they say it like that or why did
they look at me that way or tell me this
right before? And they might not know it on a
conscious level, but their soul knows that something's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So there was a lot of pain in that.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
But I felt like the pain actually broke my heart
open to let the light in.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Like I thought I was grateful before about life.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I thought I appreciated life before, but it wasn't until
I was in the pain. I started to feel this
unconditional love from the other side and really tapped into
that where everything became more special and I started to
be really more grateful than I was before because I
had no other option but to see the beauty because
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I was in so much pain, If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It is.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And I'm just smiling over here because I'm so excited
to talk to you, and now that I you know
that we connected and I've followed you and that this
conversation is happening, I'm like, yes, I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Because for me pain.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yes, it can be healing, but it can be expansive
and seeing the world through a new set of glasses,
or for things to be more special, more meaningful. Pain
teaches me to be grateful when I moved through it,
and I don't I don't disregard the pain because pain,
it's not fun, and it is painful, and it's important
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to process and feel through and be honest with and
ask for support all that using all of our resources
and community and loved ones and support systems.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
But the pain can be.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
This gorgeous catalyst for greater depth and meaning. One of
the things that happened within the last couple of months
in working through some of my active grief and losing
my mom, I had this moment in meditation and I
was doing some deep healing work and connecting and allowing
my body to process, and I had a moment where
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I experienced and it was so transcendent. I experienced utter sadness.
I mean, I was meditating and I felt engulfed in sadness,
and it was the most loving sadness I have ever felt.
It was as if my sadness was supported by all
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of my loved ones, my guides, my angels, my soul,
my spirit and God cradled in God, and it was like, oh,
I can feel fully sad, not lonely or alone or
apart from but just so sad that it is safe
and beautiful anyway. So it pain sadness all of those
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the grief can be healing and expansive.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So with your I just had to say that because beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
It resonated where you were talking about things being more
special after the fact and finding your meaning. How did
your mediumship develop, like how did he start communicating with
you or how did you did you connect with another
medium who how did you start receiving evidential messages and
things coming together? For that that clarity, Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
That's so beautiful what you just shared too, because I
understand him that in so many different levels.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
For me, at the very.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Beginning, I saw him at the foot of my bed
soon after.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
He passed, and then I blinked and then he was gone.
But then I had another visitation from.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Him when I was sleeping, so I was in a
dream like state, but it was a visit from his soul,
and he said, You're not going to see me for
a while, but I'm still going to be around you,
and that was a telepathic communication.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I remember thinking, but wait, like I wanted, like I
want to ask more questions. And that was it.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
He just had a straight face and normally people listening.
If that's if you've ever had a visitation, most likely
they probably will have a straight face.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I don't know if you've found that before. I don't
know the reasoning behind it.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I just know that that's what I've experienced with my
past love ones, where it's just a straight face and
there's a telepathic communication and then there's a feeling.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That comes over you. But that's where it started. And
I would be in the car.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
I was like going to make a collage for him
for his funeral, and.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I felt like he was in the car, you know,
same way I would feel if he was in the
car in the.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Living and I would just talk to him and I.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Would just say, Okay, do you need more prayers?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
And I went into CBS to go get the pictures printed,
and I had just said you need more prayers?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
And I heard a little old guy.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Behind me say pray for Trick and and Nick was
my boyfriend, my former boyfriend's name, and I had just said,
do you need me to pray for you.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He said, pray for Trick. I thought, he said Nick,
And I turned around. I said, I'm sorry, what did
you just say? He said, pray for Trick. And I said,
Who's Trick? He said, I am. I could use all
the prayers that I could get.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I said okay, And I turned around and I turned.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Back and he wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
And I knew those little things, that little things there
were big things.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Just kept on happening.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Now to some people, they think, Okay, she's going crazy,
she's in deep grief.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
She's making these things, you know, bigger than they are.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
But I knew by the feeling of what I was getting.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So all of these things.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
That were happening just started to accumulate. And then I said, Okay,
if you're really around me, send me a medium to
confirm everything I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And then a skeptical friend of mine went out to
a lunch meeting.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
With a lawyer that he was working with for his website.
He was working on the lawyer's website for.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Him, and that lawyer.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Has this ability to connect in and Nick came through
that lawyer and started to community kate with my friend,
and my friend told me about the information that came forward,
and it just kept building. And then I would read
every book there was, I would do automatic writing where
he would write through my writing, and just really it
was the open communication.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
And then I just I.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Went to take classes and developed this mediumship. So that's
a long story about how it all happened. But there
were little mini pieces and a lot of pain in
between where I could hardly get out of bed.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
But it was the signs that actually kept me going.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
It was the spiritual pieces that and I'm calling them.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Spiritual, they were just life experiences.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Knowing that I wasn't alone that actually kept me going
throughout that whole process.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I love that, and I love that you just said
and the pain in between, because for me and for
many people, when we experience grief and we lose a
love one, you know, it isn't solely all of these
amazing experiences strung together.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And we live on Class nine.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We go through the highs and the lows, and sometimes
when we ask for a message, it doesn't come immediately.
Sometimes it does, other times it unfolds, it reveals itself later,
and usually in the most unexpected ways. I love the
story about the gentleman in the grocery store. Because it's
like we can open our ears, open our eyes. It's
not just through the extrasensory abilities audibly, we can hear things,
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or the messages come through other people or a song
or of course animals, and there are many ways that
we can receive all of those validations and signs and
then when we string them together and start to generate
that momentum. Because that's very much part of my story
in developing gifts, is creating the momentum and the belief
and the hope and the healing.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That comes with that.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Talk to me because when you're talking about the gentleman
in the grocery store, this also reminds me of when
I first I've had my gifts since I was young.
I did not know how to communicate them, understand them,
or develop them at a young age. And trauma, of
course propelled that painful scenarios really and then me deciding
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to get on a healing journey to really make the
decision that I wanted to heal and grow is what
tuned me in in a different way in terms of
developing these gifts. But I know early on that in
that part of my journey. I could not shut the
voices and the people and the spirits off. I mean
I would be in the grocery store, I would be
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at the hair salon, I'd be on an airplane, I
would be at work. It didn't matter. Spirits were showing
up left and right. And at first I didn't have
all the courage. I also didn't really know healthy ethical
boundaries around communicating messages, because there are those two in
terms of what we do. But I also couldn't shut
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off all the energy and the voices. Have you had
that experience and it's different for me today. I know
how to create those boundaries and tune it out and
be great round.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But what about you? Is that? Does that resonate I?
You had that same experience totally.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Like at the very beginning, my excitement was I want
to practice.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
So my soul wanted these experiences.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I wouldn't say that back then because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Know that about me neither, Like when you're saying that,
I was, you know, I was afraid and excited, but
more hopeful and okay, I'm open.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'm ready for these gifts.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And they would come and it was exciting and confusing.
But yes, it was the same excitement, and I wouldn't
have said excitement back then either.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I know, I would have no clue.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
And it's funny because it wasn't until I started to
train other mediums that I started to recognize it. It
was like I saw the patterns that I had when
I started, and I see them in my mediums that
are just starting out, the ones that I'm waiting, and
they're like, I didn't know how to shut this off.
I'm like, you can shut it off, but your soul
wants to practice. So it's sort of like we want
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to have those practice.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Experiences, so our soul is open to receive them.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
But once you set aside the time to practice, that
sort of thing goes away, Yes, and then you're mindfully
closing down. But that's exactly what happens to me. At
the very beginning. I'd be at the grocery store. I'm like, okay,
let me just practice is let me just sense who's
behind me and let me see if there's anyone around them.
But now I would never even do that because when
I'm working with clients, I want to savor that energy
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for them, and I would never tap into someone's energy
without permission, you.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Know, and me neither.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Me neither.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
And also I want my space and my energy, and
I need my time, my health, my revitalization. But yes,
you're right in the beginning, it is almost like the
snowball effect of practice excitement. I'm open, my antenna is up,
I'm receptive, but also knowing how to ground that in.
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And then I love what you just said about savoring
your energy for your clients because I feel very much
the same way. Because what we do is it is
a gift, but it also is extremely It can be
very draining at times. It can also be highly uplifting
and reciprocal. But there are certain times where I know
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what my boundaries are, what my limits are, what my
energy is.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
How do you.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Work on taking care of your energy and refueling that
and then also creating those healthy boundaries with people too,
with clients.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, so that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
One of the things that I found is my mediumship
mirrors my personal life. So if I'm like in a
state where I'm not maybe I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Too much and I'm saying yes too much outside of.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
The mediumship, Like someone says, hey, do you want to
go out here? And I really don't want to go out,
but I keep saying yes to those things or doing
things that I'm not passionate about. I find myself or
I found myself leaking my energy and getting my boundaries
crossed where people would ask me for mediumship readings when
I didn't want.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
To do them.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
So it's like seeing those patterns come up and saying, Okay,
when am I not standing in my power in my
personal life? And how is this bleeding over to the
mediumship stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
That's a great way to look at it, by the
way of it, because it does it comes back to
our own energy within and what we're saying yes or
no too. And I certainly I'm a Libra by the way,
So you know, we're like, yes, yes, I want to
do that, and then we get home we're like, oh,
I have the energy to do that. And then and
then of course, you know, we don't always know how
to say no or figure out how to really authentically
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say thanks for asking me, but I can't do this.
I know how to do that better today, obviously. But
I do find that correlation as well with what you
just said, is when when my boundaries aren't as clear
or whatever, my health and wellness is, and if my
immune systems are down or I'm tired or restless or
over extending myself, it will reflect back to me through
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lack of boundaries or yes, people asking me at random
to do readings, and I love to do that, but
I also know how to say no today, And then
I still also love to be out and about in
the world. And when something organically comes through and it
feels aligned and true and healthy and just like me
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sharing my gift freely, I get to do that and
it's exhilarating. But then I also know how to set
that boundary when people cross over and are asking you
for information, and I just I feel sometimes I can
feel resentful of it and saying you know, I, yes,
I do know how to do this, but gosh, I'm
just sitting here having dinner right now, or I just
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want to talk about girl stuff or you know, with
my girlfriends or whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
No, I could totally relate to that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
And it's funny because like years ago, I think I
was so focused on moving that.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I could do it. Yeah that if they said, well, okay,
what are you picking up now? Then I would try
to tune in.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
But really that's not from the space of where I'm
at right now, and I didn't wrap.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Until I went through it. But it's true, like there's
times where I'm like, well, I would rather set aside time.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
When I'm working with clients, Like if someone says, oh, so,
what do you do for work? And I'm like, oh, gosh,
this is going to be a conversation if I open
up to that. You know, like especially if you're going
to go and you know, luckily.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I've had the same hairdresser forever, so she's not going
to pick up anything.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
But if you go to a new person that you're
talking to, they're like, oh my gosh, are you picking
up anything about me?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You know, there's going to be things like that that
come up.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
And I always say, well, I don't open up unless
I'm with my clients, So if I did, I would
be walking around exhausted.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
But I always say that, yeah, that's a great and
that's a great way to say it. That is honest
and yes, it's authentic, and it creates that boundary for you.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Tell me a little.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Bit about in your mediumship classes and developing mediums. What
are some of the foundational tools and kind of the
one to oh ones that you start with in your
initial class and opening new mediums up because I know
our listeners out there so many people, not everyone, so
many people are open to connecting to their intuition, their voice,
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but also wanting to connect with loved ones and people
on the other side. So give us, give me some
tools and tips and insights into beginning to develop those
gifts and gifts and connecting with loved ones.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So one of my programs with the Mediumship is unlock
here in our medium And the first step that we
do in that program is really getting clear on your beliefs,
because a lot of us have those beliefs.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Like oh gosh, what if I connect them with something bad?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Or is this going to go against being Catholic and
I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Create a sin just by tuning in. Also, what beliefs
do you.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Have that's connected to your childhood where maybe you had
an imaginary friend and you felt like there's something more,
but an adult told you.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
No, that's not real. So like really getting clear on that.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And sometimes people come to me and they're like, I
know I'm intuitive, but I don't even know if I
can do this with mediumship, I just feel really interested
and intrigued by it. So we get clear first where
you're at, because I believe everyone can fine tune this.
I believe there's some people that have, you know, they're
born with an ear for music, and they can start
playing the piano at two.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And then I believe that some people they.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Might learn at thirty or fifty, but they have a
teacher and they're practicing and they're figuring it out.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
But they both have to practice to get better at it.
And I feel like the same goes for mediumship. So
just really getting clear on the beliefs.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Then I teach them how to simplify connecting in where
it doesn't have to be overcomplicated. To get really clear
on what are your strong senses in your normal life,
Like are you a person that's really good with daydreaming
and seeing visions in your head? Are you a person
that's really heightened and hearing, or are you a feeler
and very empathic and getting on that in using that
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to your advantage when you're going through and practicing, Like
the first thing that we do is I show them
a picture of a past loved one.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
And they open up and just have fun with it
and take.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
A breath and should allow themselves to have fun and.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Just make up a story about the past, love and
in the photo.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
And it's the same side of the brain when you're
using your imagination. Just like mediumship, people shock themselves what
they could do in the first class because they're in
a space where they feel safe.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And I think that's the biggest.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Thing that I always want to create a safe environment
where they don't feel like they're asking.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Any questions that come off as stupid.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Or you know, I want everyone to feel comfortable. I
think that's the third grade teacher in me, where if
you feel safe, you're going to learn faster and you
can learn really quick.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Absolutely, And I love that too. Of course, it shines
through that you are a teacher and that you create
safety for people to express and grow their gifts and
extrasensory abilities. But I also love that you encourage people
to use the creative part of our brain, the intuitive
creative side, because we get so stuck in the binary
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and the analytical that I know for me and I
know for you. Through building these muscles, these cognitive muscles,
we interconnect the right and left hemispheres of the brain
to be able to use our analysis but also to
tap it into the receptive, creative, intuitive sides. I also
love that you pointed out you encourage people to tap
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into their sensory abilities that are more natural.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Do you envision things? Do you feel things? Do you
hear things audibly?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
So thes you know, clear sentience, care audience, that's what
you're referring to. And that for me was very important
in the beginning, recognizing that a lot of my stuff
just came in downloads of code and information that I
learned to put words to eventually, and that was the
primary gift. Was just a kind of a knowing rather
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than you know, clearvoyant seeing images on a screen that
wasn't natural to me, or the clear audience of hearing things.
But it's interesting that over time, and I would assume
that you would find this with yourself or with your students,
that once we start to recognize our primary gifts and
leaning on those and developing those more, the other ones
start to become more accessible and fine touned. It's amazing
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how kind of going back to that antenna analogy, the
more you tune it to the radio station, the stronger
the frequency gets in so many aspects of our gifts
and abilities to hear and see and know and feel
and communicate, yes totally.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
And sometimes people will come to me and they'll take
a class, you know, be.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
In the mentorship, and once their strong ability was clearvoyance
and they could see clearly.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
All of a sudden that kind of got put on
the back burner and something else as strong, and that
one's not as strong. And that's kind of it's normal
when you're trying to fine tune one sense and then
the other one kind of goes in the background, and
then that can come back too. But I believe sometimes
we can rely on one sense as a crutch.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I used to rely on clear ways all the time,
and I wasn't a feeler. And then I.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Started to think, okay, I want to be able to
feel more. And I recognized that I was really numbing
out in my personal life. I was numbing out my
feelings because of my own loss. And it was like
I went through the pain of that, I did all
the crying, and then all of a sudden, I started
to numb out for the future. And it wasn't until
I wanted to really find tune that clear sentience the feeling.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
That I even knew that that was what was.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Missing with feeling, that presence of spirit.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, so it's really interesting how it all works.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Absolutely, that's so amazing. I want you to share a
story or something that comes to mind, one of those
that kind of mind blowing experiences, and I know we
have lots of them, and sometimes it's I can't remember
everything because sometimes I'm in a state or in most
of the time, I'm in a space where I actually
I'm dropped into an altered consciousness and I don't consciously remember.
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But sharing a story that that really changed you, that
grew you and really maybe even solidified your gifts and
that your gifts could be an avocation and that they
were your education.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Gosh, this is so hard because I'm thinking of like
these glimpses of things that have happened to me.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Me too, I get it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So you can share glimpses if you want, like pull
whatever you want to do.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
So okay, So I'll share one example that I've shared
a bunch of times. Yeah, but I was doing a
group audience event in Tampa and my husband was there
at the time.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
He was in the audience or he was to.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
The side at a table and there's a big group
of people and it was the last reading, and there
was a man in the audience.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
What he was dragged there?
Speaker 5 (37:52):
I found out actually during my reading from his friend
that died that said he was dragged there to the
event with his girlfriend or something. But I could see
his whole energy transform when his friend came through during
this reading And one of the things that his friend
kept talking about was it was certain numbers. I don't
remember the numbers. It was seventy seven. I'm just making
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that number up. But he told him his name, the
person that was coming through, and then he said I'm
with you, and I'm with your daughter.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
There was something to that effect.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
And he said he has a tattoo on him. And
the guy lifted up his leg and he had pants
on lifted up the bottom part of the pants and
he had all sevens running up and down.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
His leg that was covered with pants.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
At the end of the event, my husband talked to
the guy.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
He came up to my husband and said, I was
a skeptic and now I'm not.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
And he said, you know, he was this big guy
that was just like, you know, you look tough on
the X tear.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You never know what's happening inside.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
But he said he was changed, and that always sticks
with me because I know he got healed that day
from him as friends coming through. So that's one example, and.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I love how you also said that sometimes names come
through for you. That usually doesn't happen for me. I
do not typically get names. It's not the way that
I connect. A lot of times I will get personalities,
and my whole personality shifts to marry that other person's personality,
the tone of my voice or the way I'm speaking.
So there are certain things that come through. But you
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know what you reminded me, and these are This is
what I love about these dialogues because there are so
many instances that I forget. My husband and I were
together and we were I forget where we were. But
there was this woman that we were talking to, and
her mother was clearly coming through and getting my attention
and wanting me to communicate messages. And I said to
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the woman, I said, I just want you to know
I am a medium and there is a woman coming through,
and I said, I'm pretty sure it's your deceased mother.
Would you like to receive messages from her, and she said, oh,
heck no. She didn't say heck no. She was like,
oh no, I don't want to hear from that woman.
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And I said, oh okay. I said, well, she's coming
through pretty strongly. She wants to talk to you. Well,
I don't want to talk to her, but what she's saying,
you know, I don't want to talk to her about
what she's saying. And I said, well, this woman had
a turtle neck on and I said to her, I said, well,
she's talking about the tattoo on your chest. And she says,
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oh yeah, she wouldn't like that tattoo. And I said, well,
is it of some flowers or she thinks it's very beautiful.
And the woman looked at me and she said, I
have a tattoo of these roses on my chest. And
she had had breast cancer and she had multiple surgeries
from the breast cancer. And I said, no, she loves
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those tattoos. And she says she's glad they're close to
your heart and healing. After that, and the woman almost
started to cry. She softened quite a bit, and she said,
I don't want to hear anything.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Else from her.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Okay, thank you for that, but I don't want to
hear anything else from her. And I remember and my
husband was standing there, and it's in those moments where
we don't know what anyone does with that information, but
it was so poignant and I would never obviously have
known about that tattoo, and it was from her mother,
and there was a lot of pain and that relationship
quite obviously, but her mother made it a point to
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come through and you know, give her that energy to say, well,
what is she saying? You know, I mean, because she
wanted to know, but she didn't want to know, but
it was just enough and it was, you know, it
was heard opening for me because I was also able
to and I would think that you experienced this because
this has been really helpful for me personally. Is with
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boundaries with other people, is knowing where my voice is,
what I share, and then whatever people do with the information,
as long as it is coming from my heart and
from a healthy place and from my highest voice in
my gift, that's their story, not mine. So I don't
take things personally or think, oh gosh, what did they
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think about me? Or did I say the wrong thing?
Because I've had those insecurities before, but I don't really
have them that often, especially when I feel in my
heart center and in that space. But I love the
tattoo stories because that's I had forgotten that story until you.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Yeah, Disney, this moment because like you brought up the
tattoo and then also her knowing that her mother was
going through that with her while she was dealing with
the breast cancer, which is so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It was a really great journey. Let me to ask
you one more question because this is coming to mine.
You were talking about automatic writing. I find that very
helpful just in my personal journey. But will you talk
a little bit about automatic writing and how that can
help not only with developing your intuition but mediumship specifically.
How do you how do you set that up? How
do you do it? I think that is such a
great nugget and tool for anybody out there getting started,
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both in intuitive development and mediumship development.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Yes, so with automatic writing, some people use the computer
to type on I didn't do that. I would write
with my pen, but I would take out a notebook.
There are times where I'd put Enya in the backgrounds
or something like relaxing to kind.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Of get me in that zone, and I would allow.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
Myself to open up and I'd say, whoever I wanted
to connect in with, I'd say, Okay, I'm allowing you
to come through my writing, write through me, and just
answer me. So I always started by writing them a
letter first, and.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Then I would let them use my hand to channel writing.
So sometimes when you're.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Doing that, I start by saying, Okay, I'm allowing you
to write right now. I'm allowing you to write right now,
and I just repeat the same line over and over
again until information flowed through.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Sometimes I'd get information so quick that I couldn't keep
up with my writing when I was writing.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I've had that.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I have.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
That happens oftentimes when I automatic write, Yeah, it's and
my hand starts to hurt, and it's like all this
information is flooding through.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Right, And it's easy to kind of get out of
the automatic writing and go into like third grade teacher
mode and start.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Editing the writing that's not channeled.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
So it's like you have to like get out of
the human minds and just allow It's almost like when
you give a reading, if you think too much about it,
you'll get knocked out of the link with.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
The spear realm.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
So it's just letting go and allowing them to write
through you, and then you'll know when to stop. You'll
just stop writing. But it takes a little bit of
a practice. This is one thing that my students sometimes
they'd be like, oh, I'm struggling with this piece, and
I'd say, like, skip over that exercise and go back
to it.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Don't force it.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
It's not something that you can force because once you
force it, you're in your head.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
And it's just not booked.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
It's like it's like that, like you said, walking through glue.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yes, exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
It's the resistance and it is I I know that
it is. It's not fleeting, but it comes through in
this very synergistic aligned way that is hard to verbally communicate.
But it's a feeling, a knowing, a presence, and it's
it's not sustainable in human form to be in that
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space all the time, right, you know. It really is
snippets of information for little moments in time that come
through so purely and clearly. Yeah, I think the automatic
writing is a really great tool. Is there anything else
that you would recommend for people diving into their mediumship
development as far as some tools to get them started
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and open up ability.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Buy a notebook specifically for your mediumship hits. So if
you find that you're talking to a friend and they
lost a brother and.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
You're talking about the brother, and.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
All of a sudden, you get this overwhelming feeling, you
know when you ask permission for your friends, like, hey,
are you open? If he says anything to me? Happens
at the beginning. A lot of the times this sort
of thing happens unplanned at the beginning, I would say,
just write down the.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Intuitive hit, whether you tell them or not, put.
Speaker 6 (46:10):
The date next to it, and then when it's confirmed,
just put a check mark next to it so you
can build up your confidence and then also get yourself
into a space where you can practice with other people
that are doing it.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
I really feel like the power of community.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Is so helpful. And having the strategies and the techniques.
The other thing that I always recommend to, like I
talked about pictures.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Maybe you have a friend that you can practice with,
or they have a friend and you tell them you're
in practice mode, but you want to see a picture
of a past love one and you just want to
look at it and allow yourself to just jop down
notes or tell them what you're getting, Like you might
hear a song that comes in your head, or you
might even want to hold an item from a.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Past love one too and see what you pick up.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
You'll feel like you're making it up, though it will
feel like you're making up the story.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
You might see like holds a.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Flannel shirt and you're holding it, you're like, well, I
felt like this person like to work outside in the winter.
And you think it might sound general, but you can
go deeper with it. It's about just practicing. Really, can't
just read a book.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
You have to practice it. I would say, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
And you know that follow those threads even if they
if it feels like or cognitively we think we're making
it up in our mind.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
It's really how we develop those gifts.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
And the discussion having someone to practice with a safe space.
If you already talked about feeling safe and in where
you are, you know, checking in with your beliefs. I
love I love what you said about getting grounded in
what I believe and the genesis of some of those
beliefs and experiences from childhood or in certain environments, and
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then and then finding safe space, finding safe community, practicing
discussing it, and then also it's like just that reflection
on it, what you're learning and what you're you know,
what's opening up for you. It builds It builds the
confidence for sure, and it helps strengthen the muscles. But
then it also it just grows our abilities. I think
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that's such such great insight. Get a journal, and get
a journal, a mediumship journal.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I have to add this in because of Yeah, she's
here with me.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
So that's why I have to add it in, because
she's telling me to talk about it too.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
One of my mentors, Navis Patilla, she's from England. She
passed a year ago. She comes through all the time
still since she passed. But one of the things I
interviewed her actually.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
On the podcast and she talks about.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Mediumship being natural at first, then unnatural and natural again,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Like, that makes so much sense because at the beginning of.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Your mediumship journey, you have these spurts of like random
things come out, there's excitement and there's confirmation, and then
when you go to take a class, you're pretty much
looked at and observed and you're trying to make it
happen on command. It's different, and then it becomes natural.
So just know that there's a process to it and
don't get stuck on one way.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
It's gonna evolve. Yes, thank you, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
That is amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Okay, you talked about your podcast. Share with everyone about
your podcast where they can, and also tell everyone out
there where they can find you, connect, follow you, link
up for a session or class, give us your info.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 5 (49:29):
So i am at Lindsaymarino dot com and then I'm
on social media Instagram, Lindsay Marino, Medium, Facebook, Lindsay Marino,
and I'm just posting all my stuff on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I'm getting used to it.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
I'm just doing everything over there on the same thing.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
There's so many different options.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
And then my podcast is on my website in YouTube,
the Lindsay and Tony Podcast.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I love that. And Tony is your husband, Yes.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
He is my husband.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
That was actually childhood friends with Nick that passed, so
we were brought together.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
After whole stories on my website. That's a whole other topic.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
But definitely you all go and listen to Lindsay's story
about those dots connecting through her lost love who wasn't
isn't so lost, but connected you with your present love today.
That that, to me is preciously divine. I love hearing that.
Thank you so much for joining us today on soul Sessions.
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For everyone out there connect with Lindsay, and also if
you're looking to develop your mediumship, if you check out
the blog on soul pathology dot com a I have
a mediumship one oh.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
One blog, and then also the blog on the.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Claars Clairvoyants Clear Sentience, those two to me really go
hand in hand. But taking away the nuggets that and
the pearls of wisdom that Lindsay shared, especially around automatic writing,
getting a journal, finding safe space, safe community to practice
with connections to practice, and then and finding the time
to really reflect and also trusting the process.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Repeat one thing that you said from MAVs, from your
teacher and now guide mave us about mediumship being exciting
and expansive at first, and then it becoming unfamiliar and
difficult and challenging, and then it opening back up again
trusting that process in the waves. I think that's very,
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very relatable and very true in my journey as well,
So thank you for joining us today, Lindsay, and sharing
all your information and all the work that you do
with your gifts and giving your gifts and the gifts
of healing and connection with loved ones who are always
there for us to others.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Thank you so much for having me, Amanda is so good.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Talk with you, so wonderful to connect. Thank you, Lindsey
Hi, everyone, It's Amanda Rieger Green. Welcome to Souls Sessions today.
I am thrilled to introduce you to my guest, Lindsay Marino.
She is an internationally recognized evidential psychic medium. She helps
other psychic mediums develop their gifts and grow their businesses.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
She's also a.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Former third grade teacher. She lives in Florida. She's married
and just as down to earth and accessible as they come.
Welcome Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I'm so excited to have this conversation today.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I am thrilled to have this conversation. I found Lindsay
on social media a couple of years ago, just in
shared interest and like I was telling Lindsay before we
got on the call, probably following intuition, psychic medium is hashtags,
and she popped up one day and there's sometimes just
those people we connect with or we're drawn to, and
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I followed her for quite a bit, so I am
excited to dive into a conversation around mediumship. First of all, Lindsay,
can you tell our listeners what evidential psychic mediumship is
and means and how you practice that before we even
talk about it. How you have developed your gifts. How
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does that show up for you?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Yes, okay, so that's a great question. A lot of
people ask me this. And evidential mediumship is when I
get facts based off of the past level one that's
coming through. It could be about memories that they had
in this life. It might even be the job that
they had. Sometimes they'll even share their name. Not always,
but sometimes.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That will come through.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
And then really things that you can actually prove by
talking to the person that's receiving the reading. So it's
just evidence based messages, but I like to mix the
evidence with the presence of past loved ones. So it's
not just like, Okay, I'm just going to give a
bunch of facts.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And you know that's it.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
There's going to be some sort of healing that takes
place with it.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I like to fix that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, I love that, And I love that you just
said you connect the evidence with the presence because that's
where the essence is. But oftentimes I know for me
and the way that my gifts of mediumship work, and
they are evidential, but oftentimes it's connecting the essence and
the memory, and we need tangible things, we need facts,
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We need for me with my loved ones that have passed,
I have such vivid memories and things that are personal.
And when I know that with clients, when they hear
that personal element, it also helps someone's energy feel to
relax and become more open. And I'm sure you experience
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that with people when people do open up and there's
that help the vulnerability that exist, and then I'm sure
you also experience it with people are resistant.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Does that resonate, Yes, totally.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And it's funny because I actually was that skeptical person.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I remember getting dragged.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
To go to it was a psychic when I.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Was in high school and my friend said, just come
with me and get a psychic reading. And I was like, oh,
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
This is a sin.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I don't know if I want to because I'm Catholic,
and I went there. Anyways, I did go there, and
I was one of those people where I was like
crossing my arms and I felt uncomfortable. I didn't even
know what I believed, and she was kind of sent
sharing general information in my mind at that point, and
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Open to it.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
And when you're not open to it, it's actually harder
to read the person, so it just makes it ten
thousand times harder. So I usually the people that come
to me are pretty open, but I've experienced some that
I can remember very clearly because it felt like I
was walking through glue trying to get information from their
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past loved ones.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And it was evidential.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
But they're like, well, you know, anyone could have that happen,
so they weren't open to it, you know, so it
really makes a big difference. It's almost like a triangle.
I always compare it to like this triangle where we're
connecting in with the past loved ones as the medium
and the sitter receiving the reading.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Is also staying open to kind of go back.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Into their minds, into their heart and thinking, wait, do
I remember that memory?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Did that come up?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And of course I don't want people saying yes, want
it's a know, but don't shake your head no before
the info comes out fully, you know, that really.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Can be hard.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That makes so much sense, And I love that you
said when someone's energy isn't open, it's like walking through glue.
That's the way that I feel it. It's almost like
I am just going against the current. You know, when
a wave knock you down and you get up and
then the next wave comes. It gets exhaustive. And I
love doing what I do and I know that you
do because it shows all over your energy field and
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it comes from the heart. It's a gift and it's
not us, you know, it's just God working through us.
But it isn't as fun and open when somebody is
continues to remain skeptical. And I think healthy skepticism is important.
That's how we discern, that's how we listen, that's how
we grow. But when somebody doesn't want it, and I'm
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like you too, most people who come to me are
open and curious and seeking and searching for answers, so
it usually is pretty aligned. But yeah, when it isn't,
we feel it and it does make it difficult.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, it does, and I usually have to stop the reading.
Like the few times that has happened, I've actually said, okay,
let's just take a moment and take.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
A breath, and I want you to close your eyes.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And I always tell my students this because a lot
of them are like, what happens if you get someone,
it's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But I always say.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
To do something that will cause them to open their heart.
So even if it's a moment of just saying I
know you might not realize it, but you might be nervous,
or something's happening where.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
There is a feeling I can't get in there.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
So I want you to close your eyes and think
of something that makes you happy. Whether it's a baby
or a puppy, you know something that makes your heart
happy and that really does something just by.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Calling it out.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, and in a really compassionate, loving way too, Because
I will tell you this. There have been times when
I'm reading and someone is very closed off, and then
it reverberates back onto me and I begin to take
on their energy. I begin to feel insecure. I begin
to question my gifts, questioning what's coming through. And from
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years of doing this, I know that I get out
of the way and I don't question. Even if it
makes no sense to me. Usually it will make crystal
clear sense to them and I know not to question.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So I love that you shared about saying, hey, let's
take a minute and then refocusing on something heart centered, familiar, comfortable, happy, joyful,
because mediumship really and developing our intuition connecting with our spirit.
And that's one of the things that you say is
mediumship isn't just about connecting with loved ones on the
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other side, it's connecting with our soul, with God, our truth,
our knowing is it is really about our developing that
dialogue with something greater. I want to go back to
what you said. That is very striking and a question
that comes up all the time you talk about being Catholic.
I am sure you get the question about your Catholicism,
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your beliefs, your Christianity, your religion, and how that either
conflicts with or you know, parallels with your gifts. Talk
to me a little bit about that. And when people
ask you about you know where your gifts come from,
and if it is I'm just going to say it
a sin or something you know that is lower vibrational.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
How do you respond to that?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, so this is a common question. Actually a lot
of people that are Catholic end.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Up coming to me because on my website I talk
about being Catholic. So when I was little, I thought everything.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Was a sin.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Anything at CCD that I was told I believed, and
I was always praying to the blessed mother.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I wanted to be like Saint Catherine of Sienna.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
She was a saint that I had to do a
report on and she would pray the Heil Mary's on
each step.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I wanted to be like her. I was always holding
the rosary beads and everything. And it wasn't that my
parents put the pressure on me at all.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I think I put more of the pressure on myself
so I can relate in that way. But it wasn't
until my own love one past that I started to
recognize that, wait a second, this is really healing to
me that I'm receiving messages from my past loved one.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
And it's okay, it's healing, it's loving.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
There's nothing that's happening that's not good.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
It's pure love, and it's proof that we don't die.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
And when that started to happen to me and I
started to open up to get messages for other people,
I started to recognize that same healing, and my belief
system changed. And I think at that point, when you're
in so much grief, when you just want.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
To connect with your past loved one.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
The whole religious aspect of it being a sin went
out the door, because I just want to connect with him.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I want to make sure that he's okay. So I
kind of deleted the religion.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Aspect of thinking it was a sin, and I'm just like,
I just want to connect, and it kind of broke
me open to think, wait, it doesn't have to be
so rigid and think this is a sin. So when
I talk to people, I tell them that story, and
I always say some people are ready and some people aren't.
And I would never push this on anyone, just like
when I was Catholic, I never pushed the idea that
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you have to be Catholic on people.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I would just do it.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
From a space of if someone asked me question, I
would answer it. And that's how I feel with mediumship too.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, it's not dogmatic, it's not rigid.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's actually expansive and it feels that way, just like
we were talking about energy and resistant energy. You are
very in tune and I am very in tune with
we feel when stuff is resistant versus when it's expansive,
open and fluid. And also I love that you said
you recognize through the loss of your loved one, and
I'm going to have you talk about that in a
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little bit and about the development of your gifts, the
genesis of that. But you talked about it was healing
and you wanted to know. Oh my goodness, you know,
the soul lives on. I know that with acute grief
and the grief that I've experienced and the loss of
loved ones. It's a human experience because the soul, while
they may be working through lessons and seeing things through
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a bigger you know, lens on the other side, as
far as their evolutionary aim and infinite growth, the human
self is what grieves and can be more separate than
through our ego. So the healing aspect of mediumship and
connection and that knowing and knowing that souls are with us,
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our loved ones are with us.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's not the same.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I lost my mom recently, and my dad's been deceased
for a long time. But I lost my mom and
she was very open, ready to go to the other side.
But all of the human things came up for me,
and of course we had lots of really rich dialogues
leading up to her crossing over, and the experience was
divine and profound, and it was heartbreaking and hard, you know,
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on the human side of things, and of course I
want to pick up the phone or text her. And
it's funny because I have that human moment of oh, shoot,
I can't do that, and then I almost you know,
about five seconds later laugh because it's like, well, she
already knew what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
She already knew. It's got already.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I picked up the phone or the text and it
was instantaneous because that moment I thought it or wanted
to share, and it was her connecting with me. But
it's of course it's not the same as having a
loved one right there. But I love the healing component
of what you just shared. Talk to me about your
experience in personal loss and how that catapulted.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You into mediumship. I think it's a beautiful story.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
So first, I know, I'm sorry, doesn't make a difference
when you're hearing that when you're grieving, But just I'm
acknowledging what you just shared about your mom, and I
had goosebumps when you just shared that, And it's so
beautiful that you had those.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, I just got them too.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Oh, it's amazing that we're having this conversation.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I'm sure everyone listening is feeling the same.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yeah, I feel like being a medium. It doesn't change
the human aspect because you're still dealing with the pain,
but you know the bigger picture and you know that
they're around us, and that helps me. That actually was
a thing that got me moving through my grief instead
of waiting it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So a lot of.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
People were very uncomfortable with me grieving for and I'm
putting in quotes for so long because they wanted me
to be happy.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
They wanted me to go out. I heard everything you
could think of.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
You know, you should go and find someone else, You
shouldn't do this, you should do that.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
They didn't know how to handle it, and.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
For me, it might have been uncomfortable for them, but
I was going through everything was I was communicating with him.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
His name is Nick.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
He was this was your boyfriend, your person.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yes, my boyfriend, and he had passed in a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So it was very Every.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Death is different, but it was just what I was
twenty three at the time, and I was just in
a space where you know, you think your life's going
to go one way and then all of a sudden
it flips upside down.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So for me, I was just like, Okay, I.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Need to get through this day or not even the day.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I just need to get through the morning and get
out of bed.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
But it was the conversations that we had before it
happened that actually helped me, because you know how you
said you had a conversation with your mom, Well, this
sort of in a different way. I had a conversation
with Nick because we went to church the Sunday before
and the whole mass was about grieving and what you
would do if someone passed.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And Okay, I have to stop you for a minute
because again and I have goosebumps because what you just
touched on is one of the things that I've learned.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And time.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
We know that time is not linear. We experience it
in a linear way. But it's so incredible how the
divine pieces of the puzzle are happening all the time,
and they may make sense later, they may never make sense.
They come together in these miraculous ways for messages that
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are not linear and not logical. Okay, so go back.
So you're you're in this church service talking about losing
lust ones.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, so go back.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So you're you're in this church service talking about losing
lush ones.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Right, And we had never been to church together before
this was the first and the last time we even
went to church.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
So it was all about grief and he dealt.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
With his own loss of his mom dying when she
was twelve.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
He was around the age of twelve. So he said,
if anything ever.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Happened to me, I wouldn't want anyone to go into debt.
I wouldn't want them to get into addiction. I'd want
them to and he would do this, keep on moving
through their life.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
And I was like what.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I'm like, wait a second, So you're saying if I died,
then you wouldn't, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Be upset. He's like, no, that's not what I mean.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
But I want everyone to keep on going through their
life and live their life.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Because you got to keep on moving.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
And it was that message that he said to me
that really stuck with me. And I still tell that
story to people too, because it.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Kept me going. You know. I was it was my
second day of teaching the third grade. I was just
dragging myself to get out of bed.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
But I knew what he had said to me beforehand,
and I truly leave now that I know that the
soul knows before even the human knows, even all the
readings that I've done and you've probably experienced as before too.
They know they do things and say things that you
start to think about later after they passed, and you're like,
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why did they say it like that or why did
they look at me that way or tell me this
right before? And they might not know it on a
conscious level, but their soul knows that something's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So there was a lot of pain in that.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
But I felt like the pain actually broke my heart
open to let the light in.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Like I thought I was grateful before about life.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I thought I appreciated life before, but it wasn't until
I was in the pain. I started to feel this
unconditional love from the other side and really tapped into
that where everything became more special and I started to
be really more grateful than I was before because I
had no other option but to see the beauty because
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I was in so much pain, If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
It is.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
And I'm just smiling over here because I'm so excited
to talk to you, and now that I you know
that we connected and I've followed you and that this
conversation is happening, I'm like, yes, I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Because for me pain.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yes, it can be healing, but it can be expansive
and seeing the world through a new set of glasses,
or for things to be more special, more meaningful. Pain
teaches me to be grateful when I moved through it,
and I don't I don't disregard the pain because pain,
it's not fun, and it is painful, and it's important
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to process and feel through and be honest with and
ask for support all that using all of our resources
and community and loved ones and support systems.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
But the pain can be.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
This gorgeous catalyst for greater depth and meaning. One of
the things that happened within the last couple of months
in working through some of my active grief and losing
my mom, I had this moment in meditation and I
was doing some deep healing work and connecting and allowing
my body to process, and I had a moment where
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I experienced and it was so transcendent. I experienced utter sadness.
I mean, I was meditating and I felt engulfed in sadness,
and it was the most loving sadness I have ever felt.
It was as if my sadness was supported by all
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of my loved ones, my guides, my angels, my soul,
my spirit and God cradled in God, and it was like, oh,
I can feel fully sad, not lonely or alone or
apart from but just so sad that it is safe
and beautiful anyway. So it pain sadness all of those
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the grief can be healing and expansive.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So with your I just had to say that because beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
It resonated where you were talking about things being more
special after the fact and finding your meaning. How did
your mediumship develop, like how did he start communicating with
you or how did you did you connect with another
medium who how did you start receiving evidential messages and
things coming together? For that that clarity, Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
That's so beautiful what you just shared too, because I
understand him that in so many different levels.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
For me, at the very.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Beginning, I saw him at the foot of my bed
soon after.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
He passed, and then I blinked and then he was gone.
But then I had another visitation from.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Him when I was sleeping, so I was in a
dream like state, but it was a visit from his soul,
and he said, You're not going to see me for
a while, but I'm still going to be around you,
and that was a telepathic communication.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I remember thinking, but wait, like I wanted, like I
want to ask more questions. And that was it.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
He just had a straight face and normally people listening.
If that's if you've ever had a visitation, most likely
they probably will have a straight face.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I don't know if you've found that before. I don't
know the reasoning behind it.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I just know that that's what I've experienced with my
past love ones, where it's just a straight face and
there's a telepathic communication and then there's a feeling.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That comes over you. But that's where it started. And
I would be in the car.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
I was like going to make a collage for him
for his funeral, and.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I felt like he was in the car, you know,
same way I would feel if he was in the
car in the.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Living and I would just talk to him and I.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Would just say, Okay, do you need more prayers?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
And I went into CBS to go get the pictures printed,
and I had just said you need more prayers?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
And I heard a little old guy.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Behind me say pray for Trick and and Nick was
my boyfriend, my former boyfriend's name, and I had just said,
do you need me to pray for you.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He said, pray for Trick. I thought, he said Nick,
And I turned around. I said, I'm sorry, what did
you just say? He said, pray for Trick. And I said,
Who's Trick? He said, I am. I could use all
the prayers that I could get.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I said okay, And I turned around and I turned.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Back and he wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
And I knew those little things, that little things there
were big things.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Just kept on happening.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Now to some people, they think, Okay, she's going crazy,
she's in deep grief.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
She's making these things, you know, bigger than they are.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
But I knew by the feeling of what I was getting.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So all of these things.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
That were happening just started to accumulate. And then I said, Okay,
if you're really around me, send me a medium to
confirm everything I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And then a skeptical friend of mine went out to
a lunch meeting.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
With a lawyer that he was working with for his website.
He was working on the lawyer's website for.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Him, and that lawyer.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Has this ability to connect in and Nick came through
that lawyer and started to community kate with my friend,
and my friend told me about the information that came forward,
and it just kept building. And then I would read
every book there was, I would do automatic writing where
he would write through my writing, and just really it
was the open communication.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
And then I just I.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Went to take classes and developed this mediumship. So that's
a long story about how it all happened. But there
were little mini pieces and a lot of pain in
between where I could hardly get out of bed.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
But it was the signs that actually kept me going.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
It was the spiritual pieces that and I'm calling them.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Spiritual, they were just life experiences.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Knowing that I wasn't alone that actually kept me going
throughout that whole process.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I love that, and I love that you just said
and the pain in between, because for me and for
many people, when we experience grief and we lose a
love one, you know, it isn't solely all of these
amazing experiences strung together.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And we live on Class nine.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We go through the highs and the lows, and sometimes
when we ask for a message, it doesn't come immediately.
Sometimes it does, other times it unfolds, it reveals itself later,
and usually in the most unexpected ways. I love the
story about the gentleman in the grocery store. Because it's
like we can open our ears, open our eyes. It's
not just through the extrasensory abilities audibly, we can hear things,
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or the messages come through other people or a song
or of course animals, and there are many ways that
we can receive all of those validations and signs and
then when we string them together and start to generate
that momentum. Because that's very much part of my story
in developing gifts, is creating the momentum and the belief
and the hope and the healing.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That comes with that.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Talk to me because when you're talking about the gentleman
in the grocery store, this also reminds me of when
I first I've had my gifts since I was young.
I did not know how to communicate them, understand them,
or develop them at a young age. And trauma, of
course propelled that painful scenarios really and then me deciding
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to get on a healing journey to really make the
decision that I wanted to heal and grow is what
tuned me in in a different way in terms of
developing these gifts. But I know early on that in
that part of my journey. I could not shut the
voices and the people and the spirits off. I mean
I would be in the grocery store, I would be
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at the hair salon, I'd be on an airplane, I
would be at work. It didn't matter. Spirits were showing
up left and right. And at first I didn't have
all the courage. I also didn't really know healthy ethical
boundaries around communicating messages, because there are those two in
terms of what we do. But I also couldn't shut
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off all the energy and the voices. Have you had
that experience and it's different for me today. I know
how to create those boundaries and tune it out and
be great round.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But what about you? Is that? Does that resonate I?
You had that same experience totally.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Like at the very beginning, my excitement was I want
to practice.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
So my soul wanted these experiences.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I wouldn't say that back then because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Know that about me neither, Like when you're saying that,
I was, you know, I was afraid and excited, but
more hopeful and okay, I'm open.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'm ready for these gifts.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And they would come and it was exciting and confusing.
But yes, it was the same excitement, and I wouldn't
have said excitement back then either.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I know, I would have no clue.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
And it's funny because it wasn't until I started to
train other mediums that I started to recognize it. It
was like I saw the patterns that I had when
I started, and I see them in my mediums that
are just starting out, the ones that I'm waiting, and
they're like, I didn't know how to shut this off.
I'm like, you can shut it off, but your soul
wants to practice. So it's sort of like we want
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to have those practice.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Experiences, so our soul is open to receive them.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
But once you set aside the time to practice, that
sort of thing goes away, Yes, and then you're mindfully
closing down. But that's exactly what happens to me. At
the very beginning. I'd be at the grocery store. I'm like, okay,
let me just practice is let me just sense who's
behind me and let me see if there's anyone around them.
But now I would never even do that because when
I'm working with clients, I want to savor that energy
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for them, and I would never tap into someone's energy
without permission, you.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Know, and me neither.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Me neither.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
And also I want my space and my energy, and
I need my time, my health, my revitalization. But yes,
you're right in the beginning, it is almost like the
snowball effect of practice excitement. I'm open, my antenna is up,
I'm receptive, but also knowing how to ground that in.
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And then I love what you just said about savoring
your energy for your clients because I feel very much
the same way. Because what we do is it is
a gift, but it also is extremely It can be
very draining at times. It can also be highly uplifting
and reciprocal. But there are certain times where I know
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what my boundaries are, what my limits are, what my
energy is.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
How do you.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Work on taking care of your energy and refueling that
and then also creating those healthy boundaries with people too,
with clients.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, so that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
One of the things that I found is my mediumship
mirrors my personal life. So if I'm like in a
state where I'm not maybe I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Too much and I'm saying yes too much outside of.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
The mediumship, Like someone says, hey, do you want to
go out here? And I really don't want to go out,
but I keep saying yes to those things or doing
things that I'm not passionate about. I find myself or
I found myself leaking my energy and getting my boundaries
crossed where people would ask me for mediumship readings when
I didn't want.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
To do them.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
So it's like seeing those patterns come up and saying, Okay,
when am I not standing in my power in my
personal life? And how is this bleeding over to the
mediumship stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
That's a great way to look at it, by the
way of it, because it does it comes back to
our own energy within and what we're saying yes or
no too. And I certainly I'm a Libra by the way,
So you know, we're like, yes, yes, I want to
do that, and then we get home we're like, oh,
I have the energy to do that. And then and
then of course, you know, we don't always know how
to say no or figure out how to really authentically
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say thanks for asking me, but I can't do this.
I know how to do that better today, obviously. But
I do find that correlation as well with what you
just said, is when when my boundaries aren't as clear
or whatever, my health and wellness is, and if my
immune systems are down or I'm tired or restless or
over extending myself, it will reflect back to me through
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lack of boundaries or yes, people asking me at random
to do readings, and I love to do that, but
I also know how to say no today, And then
I still also love to be out and about in
the world. And when something organically comes through and it
feels aligned and true and healthy and just like me
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sharing my gift freely, I get to do that and
it's exhilarating. But then I also know how to set
that boundary when people cross over and are asking you
for information, and I just I feel sometimes I can
feel resentful of it and saying you know, I, yes,
I do know how to do this, but gosh, I'm
just sitting here having dinner right now, or I just
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want to talk about girl stuff or you know, with
my girlfriends or whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
No, I could totally relate to that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
And it's funny because like years ago, I think I
was so focused on moving that.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I could do it. Yeah that if they said, well, okay,
what are you picking up now? Then I would try
to tune in.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
But really that's not from the space of where I'm
at right now, and I didn't wrap.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Until I went through it. But it's true, like there's
times where I'm like, well, I would rather set aside time.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
When I'm working with clients, Like if someone says, oh, so,
what do you do for work? And I'm like, oh, gosh,
this is going to be a conversation if I open
up to that. You know, like especially if you're going
to go and you know, luckily.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I've had the same hairdresser forever, so she's not going
to pick up anything.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
But if you go to a new person that you're
talking to, they're like, oh my gosh, are you picking
up anything about me?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You know, there's going to be things like that that
come up.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
And I always say, well, I don't open up unless
I'm with my clients, So if I did, I would
be walking around exhausted.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
But I always say that, yeah, that's a great and
that's a great way to say it. That is honest
and yes, it's authentic, and it creates that boundary for you.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Tell me a little.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Bit about in your mediumship classes and developing mediums. What
are some of the foundational tools and kind of the
one to oh ones that you start with in your
initial class and opening new mediums up because I know
our listeners out there so many people, not everyone, so
many people are open to connecting to their intuition, their voice,
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but also wanting to connect with loved ones and people
on the other side. So give us, give me some
tools and tips and insights into beginning to develop those
gifts and gifts and connecting with loved ones.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So one of my programs with the Mediumship is unlock
here in our medium And the first step that we
do in that program is really getting clear on your beliefs,
because a lot of us have those beliefs.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Like oh gosh, what if I connect them with something bad?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Or is this going to go against being Catholic and
I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Create a sin just by tuning in. Also, what beliefs
do you.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Have that's connected to your childhood where maybe you had
an imaginary friend and you felt like there's something more,
but an adult told you.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
No, that's not real. So like really getting clear on that.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And sometimes people come to me and they're like, I
know I'm intuitive, but I don't even know if I
can do this with mediumship, I just feel really interested
and intrigued by it. So we get clear first where
you're at, because I believe everyone can fine tune this.
I believe there's some people that have, you know, they're
born with an ear for music, and they can start
playing the piano at two.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And then I believe that some people they.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Might learn at thirty or fifty, but they have a
teacher and they're practicing and they're figuring it out.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
But they both have to practice to get better at it.
And I feel like the same goes for mediumship. So
just really getting clear on the beliefs.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Then I teach them how to simplify connecting in where
it doesn't have to be overcomplicated. To get really clear
on what are your strong senses in your normal life,
Like are you a person that's really good with daydreaming
and seeing visions in your head? Are you a person
that's really heightened and hearing, or are you a feeler
and very empathic and getting on that in using that
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to your advantage when you're going through and practicing, Like
the first thing that we do is I show them
a picture of a past loved one.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
And they open up and just have fun with it
and take.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
A breath and should allow themselves to have fun and.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Just make up a story about the past, love and
in the photo.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
And it's the same side of the brain when you're
using your imagination. Just like mediumship, people shock themselves what
they could do in the first class because they're in
a space where they feel safe.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And I think that's the biggest.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Thing that I always want to create a safe environment
where they don't feel like they're asking.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Any questions that come off as stupid.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Or you know, I want everyone to feel comfortable. I
think that's the third grade teacher in me, where if
you feel safe, you're going to learn faster and you
can learn really quick.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Absolutely, And I love that too. Of course, it shines
through that you are a teacher and that you create
safety for people to express and grow their gifts and
extrasensory abilities. But I also love that you encourage people
to use the creative part of our brain, the intuitive
creative side, because we get so stuck in the binary
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and the analytical that I know for me and I
know for you. Through building these muscles, these cognitive muscles,
we interconnect the right and left hemispheres of the brain
to be able to use our analysis but also to
tap it into the receptive, creative, intuitive sides. I also
love that you pointed out you encourage people to tap
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into their sensory abilities that are more natural.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Do you envision things? Do you feel things? Do you
hear things audibly?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
So thes you know, clear sentience, care audience, that's what
you're referring to. And that for me was very important
in the beginning, recognizing that a lot of my stuff
just came in downloads of code and information that I
learned to put words to eventually, and that was the
primary gift. Was just a kind of a knowing rather
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than you know, clearvoyant seeing images on a screen that
wasn't natural to me, or the clear audience of hearing things.
But it's interesting that over time, and I would assume
that you would find this with yourself or with your students,
that once we start to recognize our primary gifts and
leaning on those and developing those more, the other ones
start to become more accessible and fine touned. It's amazing
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how kind of going back to that antenna analogy, the
more you tune it to the radio station, the stronger
the frequency gets in so many aspects of our gifts
and abilities to hear and see and know and feel
and communicate, yes totally.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
And sometimes people will come to me and they'll take
a class, you know, be.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
In the mentorship, and once their strong ability was clearvoyance
and they could see clearly.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
All of a sudden that kind of got put on
the back burner and something else as strong, and that
one's not as strong. And that's kind of it's normal
when you're trying to fine tune one sense and then
the other one kind of goes in the background, and
then that can come back too. But I believe sometimes
we can rely on one sense as a crutch.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I used to rely on clear ways all the time,
and I wasn't a feeler. And then I.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Started to think, okay, I want to be able to
feel more. And I recognized that I was really numbing
out in my personal life. I was numbing out my
feelings because of my own loss. And it was like
I went through the pain of that, I did all
the crying, and then all of a sudden, I started
to numb out for the future. And it wasn't until
I wanted to really find tune that clear sentience the feeling.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
That I even knew that that was what was.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Missing with feeling, that presence of spirit.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, so it's really interesting how it all works.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Absolutely, that's so amazing. I want you to share a
story or something that comes to mind, one of those
that kind of mind blowing experiences, and I know we
have lots of them, and sometimes it's I can't remember
everything because sometimes I'm in a state or in most
of the time, I'm in a space where I actually
I'm dropped into an altered consciousness and I don't consciously remember.
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But sharing a story that that really changed you, that
grew you and really maybe even solidified your gifts and
that your gifts could be an avocation and that they
were your education.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Gosh, this is so hard because I'm thinking of like
these glimpses of things that have happened to me.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Me too, I get it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So you can share glimpses if you want, like pull
whatever you want to do.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
So okay, So I'll share one example that I've shared
a bunch of times. Yeah, but I was doing a
group audience event in Tampa and my husband was there
at the time.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
He was in the audience or he was to.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
The side at a table and there's a big group
of people and it was the last reading, and there
was a man in the audience.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
What he was dragged there?
Speaker 5 (37:52):
I found out actually during my reading from his friend
that died that said he was dragged there to the
event with his girlfriend or something. But I could see
his whole energy transform when his friend came through during
this reading And one of the things that his friend
kept talking about was it was certain numbers. I don't
remember the numbers. It was seventy seven. I'm just making
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that number up. But he told him his name, the
person that was coming through, and then he said I'm
with you, and I'm with your daughter.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
There was something to that effect.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
And he said he has a tattoo on him. And
the guy lifted up his leg and he had pants
on lifted up the bottom part of the pants and
he had all sevens running up and down.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
His leg that was covered with pants.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
At the end of the event, my husband talked to
the guy.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
He came up to my husband and said, I was
a skeptic and now I'm not.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
And he said, you know, he was this big guy
that was just like, you know, you look tough on
the X tear.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You never know what's happening inside.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
But he said he was changed, and that always sticks
with me because I know he got healed that day
from him as friends coming through. So that's one example, and.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I love how you also said that sometimes names come
through for you. That usually doesn't happen for me. I
do not typically get names. It's not the way that
I connect. A lot of times I will get personalities,
and my whole personality shifts to marry that other person's personality,
the tone of my voice or the way I'm speaking.
So there are certain things that come through. But you
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know what you reminded me, and these are This is
what I love about these dialogues because there are so
many instances that I forget. My husband and I were
together and we were I forget where we were. But
there was this woman that we were talking to, and
her mother was clearly coming through and getting my attention
and wanting me to communicate messages. And I said to
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the woman, I said, I just want you to know
I am a medium and there is a woman coming through,
and I said, I'm pretty sure it's your deceased mother.
Would you like to receive messages from her, and she said, oh,
heck no. She didn't say heck no. She was like,
oh no, I don't want to hear from that woman.
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And I said, oh okay. I said, well, she's coming
through pretty strongly. She wants to talk to you. Well,
I don't want to talk to her, but what she's saying,
you know, I don't want to talk to her about
what she's saying. And I said, well, this woman had
a turtle neck on and I said to her, I said, well,
she's talking about the tattoo on your chest. And she says,
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oh yeah, she wouldn't like that tattoo. And I said, well,
is it of some flowers or she thinks it's very beautiful.
And the woman looked at me and she said, I
have a tattoo of these roses on my chest. And
she had had breast cancer and she had multiple surgeries
from the breast cancer. And I said, no, she loves
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those tattoos. And she says she's glad they're close to
your heart and healing. After that, and the woman almost
started to cry. She softened quite a bit, and she said,
I don't want to hear anything.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Else from her.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Okay, thank you for that, but I don't want to
hear anything else from her. And I remember and my
husband was standing there, and it's in those moments where
we don't know what anyone does with that information, but
it was so poignant and I would never obviously have
known about that tattoo, and it was from her mother,
and there was a lot of pain and that relationship
quite obviously, but her mother made it a point to
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come through and you know, give her that energy to say, well,
what is she saying? You know, I mean, because she
wanted to know, but she didn't want to know, but
it was just enough and it was, you know, it
was heard opening for me because I was also able
to and I would think that you experienced this because
this has been really helpful for me personally. Is with
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boundaries with other people, is knowing where my voice is,
what I share, and then whatever people do with the information,
as long as it is coming from my heart and
from a healthy place and from my highest voice in
my gift, that's their story, not mine. So I don't
take things personally or think, oh gosh, what did they
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think about me? Or did I say the wrong thing?
Because I've had those insecurities before, but I don't really
have them that often, especially when I feel in my
heart center and in that space. But I love the
tattoo stories because that's I had forgotten that story until you.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Yeah, Disney, this moment because like you brought up the
tattoo and then also her knowing that her mother was
going through that with her while she was dealing with
the breast cancer, which is so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It was a really great journey. Let me to ask
you one more question because this is coming to mine.
You were talking about automatic writing. I find that very
helpful just in my personal journey. But will you talk
a little bit about automatic writing and how that can
help not only with developing your intuition but mediumship specifically.
How do you how do you set that up? How
do you do it? I think that is such a
great nugget and tool for anybody out there getting started,
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both in intuitive development and mediumship development.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
Yes, so with automatic writing, some people use the computer
to type on I didn't do that. I would write
with my pen, but I would take out a notebook.
There are times where I'd put Enya in the backgrounds
or something like relaxing to kind.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Of get me in that zone, and I would allow.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
Myself to open up and I'd say, whoever I wanted
to connect in with, I'd say, Okay, I'm allowing you
to come through my writing, write through me, and just
answer me. So I always started by writing them a
letter first, and.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Then I would let them use my hand to channel writing.
So sometimes when you're.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Doing that, I start by saying, Okay, I'm allowing you
to write right now. I'm allowing you to write right now,
and I just repeat the same line over and over
again until information flowed through.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Sometimes I'd get information so quick that I couldn't keep
up with my writing when I was writing.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I've had that.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
I have.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
That happens oftentimes when I automatic write, Yeah, it's and
my hand starts to hurt, and it's like all this
information is flooding through.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Right, And it's easy to kind of get out of
the automatic writing and go into like third grade teacher
mode and start.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Editing the writing that's not channeled.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
So it's like you have to like get out of
the human minds and just allow It's almost like when
you give a reading, if you think too much about it,
you'll get knocked out of the link with.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
The spear realm.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
So it's just letting go and allowing them to write
through you, and then you'll know when to stop. You'll
just stop writing. But it takes a little bit of
a practice. This is one thing that my students sometimes
they'd be like, oh, I'm struggling with this piece, and
I'd say, like, skip over that exercise and go back
to it.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Don't force it.
Speaker 5 (44:45):
It's not something that you can force because once you
force it, you're in your head.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
And it's just not booked.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
It's like it's like that, like you said, walking through glue.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yes, exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
It's the resistance and it is I I know that
it is. It's not fleeting, but it comes through in
this very synergistic aligned way that is hard to verbally communicate.
But it's a feeling, a knowing, a presence, and it's
it's not sustainable in human form to be in that
(45:17):
space all the time, right, you know. It really is
snippets of information for little moments in time that come
through so purely and clearly. Yeah, I think the automatic
writing is a really great tool. Is there anything else
that you would recommend for people diving into their mediumship
development as far as some tools to get them started
(45:40):
and open up ability.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Buy a notebook specifically for your mediumship hits. So if
you find that you're talking to a friend and they
lost a brother and.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
You're talking about the brother, and.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
All of a sudden, you get this overwhelming feeling, you
know when you ask permission for your friends, like, hey,
are you open? If he says anything to me? Happens
at the beginning. A lot of the times this sort
of thing happens unplanned at the beginning, I would say,
just write down the.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Intuitive hit, whether you tell them or not, put.
Speaker 6 (46:10):
The date next to it, and then when it's confirmed,
just put a check mark next to it so you
can build up your confidence and then also get yourself
into a space where you can practice with other people
that are doing it.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
I really feel like the power of community.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Is so helpful. And having the strategies and the techniques.
The other thing that I always recommend to, like I
talked about pictures.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Maybe you have a friend that you can practice with,
or they have a friend and you tell them you're
in practice mode, but you want to see a picture
of a past love one and you just want to
look at it and allow yourself to just jop down
notes or tell them what you're getting, Like you might
hear a song that comes in your head, or you
might even want to hold an item from a.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Past love one too and see what you pick up.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
You'll feel like you're making it up, though it will
feel like you're making up the story.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
You might see like holds a.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Flannel shirt and you're holding it, you're like, well, I
felt like this person like to work outside in the winter.
And you think it might sound general, but you can
go deeper with it. It's about just practicing. Really, can't
just read a book.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
You have to practice it. I would say, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
And you know that follow those threads even if they
if it feels like or cognitively we think we're making
it up in our mind.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
It's really how we develop those gifts.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
And the discussion having someone to practice with a safe space.
If you already talked about feeling safe and in where
you are, you know, checking in with your beliefs. I
love I love what you said about getting grounded in
what I believe and the genesis of some of those
beliefs and experiences from childhood or in certain environments, and
(47:46):
then and then finding safe space, finding safe community, practicing
discussing it, and then also it's like just that reflection
on it, what you're learning and what you're you know,
what's opening up for you. It builds It builds the
confidence for sure, and it helps strengthen the muscles. But
then it also it just grows our abilities. I think
(48:08):
that's such such great insight. Get a journal, and get
a journal, a mediumship journal.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I have to add this in because of Yeah, she's
here with me.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
So that's why I have to add it in, because
she's telling me to talk about it too.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
One of my mentors, Navis Patilla, she's from England. She
passed a year ago. She comes through all the time
still since she passed. But one of the things I
interviewed her actually.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
On the podcast and she talks about.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Mediumship being natural at first, then unnatural and natural again,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Like, that makes so much sense because at the beginning of.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Your mediumship journey, you have these spurts of like random
things come out, there's excitement and there's confirmation, and then
when you go to take a class, you're pretty much
looked at and observed and you're trying to make it
happen on command. It's different, and then it becomes natural.
So just know that there's a process to it and
don't get stuck on one way.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
It's gonna evolve. Yes, thank you, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
That is amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Okay, you talked about your podcast. Share with everyone about
your podcast where they can, and also tell everyone out
there where they can find you, connect, follow you, link
up for a session or class, give us your info.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 5 (49:29):
So i am at Lindsaymarino dot com and then I'm
on social media Instagram, Lindsay Marino, Medium, Facebook, Lindsay Marino,
and I'm just posting all my stuff on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I'm getting used to it.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
I'm just doing everything over there on the same thing.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
There's so many different options.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
And then my podcast is on my website in YouTube,
the Lindsay and Tony Podcast.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I love that. And Tony is your husband, Yes.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
He is my husband.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
That was actually childhood friends with Nick that passed, so
we were brought together.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
After whole stories on my website. That's a whole other topic.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
But definitely you all go and listen to Lindsay's story
about those dots connecting through her lost love who wasn't
isn't so lost, but connected you with your present love today.
That that, to me is preciously divine. I love hearing that.
Thank you so much for joining us today on soul Sessions.
(50:26):
For everyone out there connect with Lindsay, and also if
you're looking to develop your mediumship, if you check out
the blog on soul pathology dot com a I have
a mediumship one oh.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
One blog, and then also the blog on the.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Claars Clairvoyants Clear Sentience, those two to me really go
hand in hand. But taking away the nuggets that and
the pearls of wisdom that Lindsay shared, especially around automatic writing,
getting a journal, finding safe space, safe community to practice
with connections to practice, and then and finding the time
to really reflect and also trusting the process.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Repeat one thing that you said from MAVs, from your
teacher and now guide mave us about mediumship being exciting
and expansive at first, and then it becoming unfamiliar and
difficult and challenging, and then it opening back up again
trusting that process in the waves. I think that's very,
(51:25):
very relatable and very true in my journey as well,
So thank you for joining us today, Lindsay, and sharing
all your information and all the work that you do
with your gifts and giving your gifts and the gifts
of healing and connection with loved ones who are always
there for us to others.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Thank you so much for having me, Amanda is so good.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Talk with you, so wonderful to connect. Thank you, Lindsey
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