June 3, 2026 • 34 mins
The left-hander dealt away for Rafael Devers strikes out 12 - including Devers three times, and the Giants are now at the bottom of the NL.
FP Santangelo and Susan Slusser look at where things have gone wrong and what options they might have - is a Luis Arraez trade getting ever closer? Plus: Bryce Eldridge makes strong case to play daily. 🌶️
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, this is gonna be so much fun. Wait,
my alarm's going off. This is gonna be so much fun.
Another episode of splash It Territory, Susan Slusser joins, us
I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and act happy
because I'm not. I'm not gonna sit here and do
a podcast like let's talk about the Giants are in
last place. I mean they are, and it just seems
(00:30):
like there are some good things going on, but then
they get in their own way, and you felt like
they were coming back. Last night they lose eight to three.
They lost the first game, what was it, sixteen to
two or something, I can't even remember, and I'm doing
the games, and then last night it looks like they're
gonna amount a comeback and the Bryce Eldridge pinch it.
Chung hou Lee gets a pinch it. He extends the
(00:51):
sitting streak to ten games. It's hard to do off
the bench, and they're right there, and then they give
up the four spot in the bottom of the eighth
and lose eight to three. Your five spot, I don't
even know. I don't even know, and I'm not going
to sit in your neck like everything's going to change
because they're in last place.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, it's some bad trends, particularly on the pitching side.
We'll get into that in a minute. The run differential
is awful, which is typical for a last place team.
We're seeing this strange situation, typical of teams that just aren't,
you know, can't get it together, where the offense is
bad one month, the pitching is terrible, the next month
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they've never clicked at all. Good teams minimize those stretches.
Every team gets a little bit of that right where
you're not quite in sync with your various different scoring
runs preventing runs. But the Giants have a whatever can
go wrong goes wrong situation. Pitching's bad right now, they
don't have any luck, and they make mistakes at the
(01:52):
worst possible times. And for me, when we get into
the pitching, oh my gosh, the number of walks is
just ridiculous, particularly and shutdown Anians. I asked, I've asked why.
I tell her a lot about that recently, and I've
mentioned it on the show before. Every time the Giants score, immediately,
whoever's pitching comes out the next inning walks the lead
(02:13):
off battery. You just can't do that it's just gonna
kill you, and he basically said all walks are bad,
which yeah, so, uh, it's not pretty and last place.
It's not just last place, worst record in the National League.
This is uh, look to everybody that ripped us early
on for keeping on saying it's early.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It's early, it's early.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Maya kulpa you guys. Maybe you guys want to something.
Here we are, We're in June, worst record in the
National League. I still think this is a better team
than what they've played and certainly better than their record,
but they're not showing it. So uh, I don't know
what what is the fundamental issue with this team FP
can you tell?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
There's a lot of them, But the main one for
me is, you know, in a day and age when
there's so many analytics and numbers and it's deeper than that,
something's missing. Right now, there's still one hundred games left.
I have no idea where this goes, but something's missing.
And it takes a kind of like somebody to get
(03:20):
so pissed and so frustrated, so embarrassed to just have
a let it rip mentality where I'm just gonna go
out there tonight and let it rip. I don't care
about my numbers. I don't care about this. I'm just
gonna just from the manager all the way down to
the last player. We're gonna let it rip. What do
we have to lose right now? Like we have the
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worst record of the National League, we're in last place.
We have nothing to lose. And sometimes that frees you up.
You could go two ways. You could be deer in
the headlights, we suck, and then guys start saying we suck.
Can you believe this? I thought this had a chance
to be a really good team in spring training. I
can't believe a team with this much talent is where
they are right now. I've been in baseball my entire life,
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and I don't know that I've seen anything like this.
And it's so easy. It's such low hanging fruit to
kick people when they're down. I think in my experiences
in baseball as a broadcaster, I've been more critical of
a team that's in first place when they make mistakes,
then that's in last place, because I mean, come on,
it's low hanging fruit. It's like, you know, being hammered
at the end of the bar at three in the morning.
(04:25):
It means it's you just you don't want to get
on this team too much right now, because these guys
are wearing it. Man. You can see it in Tony's face,
you can see it in Buster's face, you can see
it in Chappy's face, you can see it in Willie's face.
And it's kind of I'll stop here in a second.
It's kind of deer in the headlights thing that they
can't if we can't believe it, they can't believe it.
(04:46):
You have to have like some pride to go out
there and play like good baseball on a daily basis.
And I'm not saying they don't have pride, because I
talk to these guys every day, but maybe there's a
little of just like Okay, today will be the day.
But like, there has to be a sense of urgency
with these guys right now, and I think there is.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It can't be an individual thing like I'm going to
go out myself and fix this. I think we've seen
too much of that. I understand the instinct, that's a
good instinct, that it has to be a collective. And
people ask all the time, is this because they have
a manager who's so inexperienced. I think everyone comes in
(05:24):
to blame here. Maybe having an inexperienced manager does not
help necessarily when you've got a team that's gone this
far south. But I'll tell you, I've covered baseball for
a long time. I've covered a lot of bad teams.
This is not a bad team. They have a bad record,
They've had a lot of bad performances. They just have
so much more talent than any other last place team
(05:47):
I've ever covered. It's really it's the strangest season, it
really is. I don't get it. You're right, something's missing.
I can't put my finger on it. But I mean,
we see where things are going. Luisa Rise is going
to be traded, and maybe sooner than later. If anybody
comes calling with a great package, I'm pretty sure they
could have Louis Risa among other things that kind of
(06:09):
selves some roster issues.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But he's the one guy that just is so intense
every night. Not that other guys aren't, he's just more demonstrative. Yeah,
I don't know, I really don't know. And I've talked
to a lot of people and we're all kind of
in the same boat. But I think it's we're all frustrated,
(06:31):
you know, you know, I talked to Hunter like, we're giants.
We care about the giants, we care about this organization,
we care about this team. And then you see some
good things on a nightly basis, like Willie going deep
last night or Louisa Rise getting a triple and a double,
and you know, there's just there's good things. Then all
of a sudden, there's not, and they shoot themselves in
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the foot. The pinch hit by Bryce Eldridge, who he's
got to play every day. Man, just let him go
left righty amphibious both sides. I don't care if a
guy has three arms, Just let him play every single day.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No disrespect to Buddy Kennedy, but that was not you
look at that lineup. First of all, Bryce can hit
left handers. He also might have a better idea against
Kyle Harrison than some guys. You know, he's seen him
some as a teammate. So I don't know. Was that
one was a little bit of a head scratcher. Sometimes
I think maybe almost too many cooks are trying too
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hard out like kind of outsmarting themselves with some of
the lineup.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Is I know, I just went along ramp, but we
have all these numbers in analytics and data. These guys
have everything at their fingertips down to the very but
like this, I don't care. This game is so mental.
So we have analytics and departments and these guys do
a great job and everything's at your fingertips to help
you get your swing right, your release point right, your
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arm angle right, your spin right right. But like this
is so mental, man, Like right now you can. I
just this team's way too good to be in last
place and have the worst record in National League. But
your record as your resume.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So yeah, for sure, Let's talk a little bit about
last night because it was almost, to me like operatic,
like a like a Greek tragedy or something, you know,
prodigal son returns and kills the father kind of thing.
It was like in every aspect. Kyle Harrison dominates matches
his team. His career high with twelve strikeouts. Made it
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look easy, he really did, and he looked especially kind
of geeked up against Rafael Devers. He wouldn't quite say
so afterwards, but his five four of his five top
velocity pitches came against Rafael Devers, strikes him out three times.
John Shay, formerly of the Chronicle, now that SF Standard
(08:55):
said is it fair to say this was a revenge game?
And he went like, yeah, I guess so, and then
he like no, no, no, no, just another game.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Clearly was it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Look, I think we're all really happy for Kyle Harrison.
He's local, couldn't be nicer. Has put in a lot
of effort. Was you know, shattered to get traded last
year from his hometown team, and then get traded again
from Boston. You know, immediately go to the minors with
Boston and then get traded again. He's landed in the
best possible place. The Brewers know what to do with pictures.
(09:27):
I Willia Dumas last night, said Maria Guardado from mob
dot Com, And I talked to him and Willy said,
they fixed. That's what the Brewers do. They need a
little the Giants need a little Brewer's magic. And I
know that's a team they pay attention too closely and
try to model themselves on. Right now, they're not doing
a very good job of it, frankly, But Kyle Harrison
(09:49):
is that moving him over on the rubber That was
step one. That was the Brewers, And he said he
immediately kind of felt well first, so the first time
he gave up home run, immediately was kind of, oh man, I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Going back over the other side.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Stuck with it, and he said, like almost immediately really
felt the difference. Arm angles up a little bit. You
mentioned that on the show the other day. Just looks
like a different guy. The Giants should be doing that,
frankly with their pitching, because they're pitching has really hurt
them this month because the offenses by and large to
come around. I was kind of going through trying for
a little who's in a funk segment? Hitters by and
(10:26):
larger are doing their jobs. I can't even say Chapman
right now. Chapman's, you know, contributing, so I don't know,
but that was, you know, Kyle and then the Brewers
are such a good team and they're in first place.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
They're taking the first two of this series.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I mean, Kyle Harrison's a little bit, you know, let's
show them, of.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Course, I mean, any good athlete does that chip on
your shoulder. You want to show your old team what
they're missing. Sometimes those things can get sideways where you
try too hard to get your old team. But I
remember Daniel Murphy and DC when he played the Mets
man he tortured and he got four game with damage
and it was just like, this is what you You
didn't want me, You didn't want me, and that's that's
what a good competitor does. And that's what Kyle Harrison.
(11:07):
I mean, I think the Red Sox should be more
pissed than the Giants for not I mean, that guy
was in Triple A for the Red Sox last he
didn't really play in the big leagues, and then they
got rid of him for the third baseman, drawing in
Blancott his name, which probably tells you all you need
to know.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I mean, that's here again, like Kyle's revenge. Look at
both these teams are under prime. I'm not saying Kyle
Harrison makes completely all the difference in the world for
either the Giants. Well maybe for the Giants or the
Red Sox, but both of these teams sure could use
Kyle Harrison.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'll say this too, like I'm not going to say
I was wrong on Kyle Harrison. I saw ninety two
ninety three with not real good off speed. But there
has to be you know, the Giants have to look
at themselves and the fact that there has to be
some sort of pitching lab where their guys can move
their pitchers on the rubber, and guys can get their
guys arm mangled up a little higher, whoever it is,
(12:04):
and then just to like really put your heads in
there and try to figure out what they can do
to make their pictures better. But man, he's a stud,
and I did. I never saw him sit at ninety
seven ninety eight. I never saw his slurve like it
was last night, So good for him. He walked off
the mound and I don't know who he was looking at.
What he struck out the side, and he did like
(12:24):
kind of like the sasquatch walk off the mound, and
he was looking up at the booth or one of
the sweets somewhere. And I turned to Joe Ritz, I'm like,
I was kind of down on him as he's looking
at me. He was, He's not looking at you. He's
looking at Buster or Zach or something like your way
down on his list.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Gotta be about UFP, always about me, Joe.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, So hey, you guys had kringle.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And though you guys are so high in my book
right now, you kringle in your booth, which thanks to
dwank Kiper and Dave Dave Fleming Fleming but that made
my day. So on the Giant's standpoint, the Kringle was outstanding.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
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Speaker 1 (14:02):
Where are we going with this thing? I'm I'm not
in a good mood today.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You really aren't. Yeah, And it's really.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
All of us. Man, We're close to these guys. We're
around him every day. You're the objective reporter. I'm not.
I'm a giant man. This is hard, I mean harder
for them, but like we wear it, we're invested.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So yeah, I mean, look, they have pitching problems. That's
the biggest issue right now. It's the starters and it's
the relievers. As I said, too many walks. They walked
seven last night. Five of those wound up coming around
to score. That's really all you need to know. But
Robbie Ray has to get it together. He's when we get.
When we get, I'm jumping the gun on my who's
(14:45):
in a funk. But Robbie Ray really has to get
it together. I mean, the their top two guys, Logan
webb Robbie Ray. I mean, nobody's pitching into the fifth
right now. Nobody that's certainly not deep into the fifth.
We're barely se in it. So the bullpen is getting
over taxed. The bullpen has not been as good lately.
(15:05):
They've been tax all year and we know that the
bullpen construction was questionable from the from the get go.
But I don't know what they do because they don't
have the kind of pitching depth right now they've had.
You look at Sacramento and there's nobody that jumps out
where you go, Well, like, just bring that guy up.
It was Trevor McDonald. He's here and I will say
(15:27):
last night it looked like he was going to have
the sort of disaster that befell Land and Root the previous.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Night and have just have a really dreadful outing kid. Yeah,
he lucked in. He did his job, so that that
was well done by him. They needed that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Uh it still wasn't quite enough and uh everyone needs
to get deeper. What are you seeing from the from
the pitching staff, particularly the starters.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean there's got the whole let it rip thing,
Like if you're a pitcher, I'd rather see you get
your head kicked in by being aggressive and throwing strikes,
then nibbling and walking guys, and especially against the Brewers,
these guys own the strike zone. They don't go outside
the strike zone, they're death by a thousand paper cuts.
They bunch you over, they walk, they get a base
(16:14):
hit the other way, they steal the base like so
even in Colorado you saw a couple the guys that
were just trying to shave corners. Like man, the pitchings
of mentality where I'm coming after you. F you here
I come. Here's my best stuff. And I'm not just
saying throw it down the middle and get the l
screen out there, but I'm saying, just be aggressive of
the zone and now it's your presence with authority, the
(16:36):
old nuclear Looch line, and just go after guys. And
then you know, the same thing. On the other side
of the baseball The Giants are going out of the
zone a lot on offense, like Barrakoto had a three
two pitch that was up and over his head last
night that he swung out. And you just don't see
other teams chasing as consistently as the Giants do in
big counts. So it's just it's all from a good place.
(17:00):
But as far as the pitching goes, the starting pitching
was five and fifteen in the month of May, with
a five to two one era like that's okay, but
it's wait, that's not okay. That'll get clipped and I'll
go viral. I'm so sick of the scrap to be
honest with you, like you talk now.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, well it's it's not okay, it's it's not that
is subpar. That'll that'll get your last place. They they're
better than this. Look, should they have signed a frontline starter?
Sounds great to me. They didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
They've got what they've got.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They don't have a ton of depth with Hayden bird Song,
having Tommy John, the guys that sort of are next
in line, Wizz' hunt, Seymour.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Guys like that. They could be good.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't think if they're necessarily ready right now. It's
always tough to tell with a PCL. It's a hitters league,
but the numbers aren't ones where you go like that's
your guy. So they're a little bit stuck right now.
Tyler Mally actually could be back quite soon. He's he
has not.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Been good this year.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He would say that where he were, he right here,
maybe a little break, maybe fixing whatever's up with a hammy,
although I don't remember a hammy requiring just a minimum
stay on the IL. But he's throwing a bullpen today,
so that's that's pretty quick off the block after going
on the IL. I suspect he's getting ready if somebody
(18:23):
else really underperforms or if there's an injury, they just
aren't really covered. So to me, and I'm not pushing
in a rise trade, I'm really not. I love him,
I love watching him every day. He is such a
special player now on both sides of the ball. But
if and when they trade him, they need to get
back a reliable starter who is big league ready, a
(18:46):
young one. I don't know if that's possible, but that's
if I'm them, that's what I'm asking for. So uh,
it's it's really kind of kind of tough.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So hey, let's talk. Let's talk about Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
The Giants have had eighteen walks in the first two games.
The Giants pitching eleven, eleven and seven yesterday, So that
that's against the Brewers team that has speed, that can
run the bases, and all right, just go bury bury
him first pitch. Second, Webby's on the mount tonight. You're
going to see a good one from Logan web tonight.
Mark my words. Okay, his stuff was sharp in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
One of the things with the Brewers and the Giants
were good at this in the spring.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't know what happened. They are so great at
their strike zone is so good.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They're great at ABS challenges. They're one of the best
teams in the in the league with the ABS challenges.
You know when they're heard the plate and the challenge
is not going it's not going your way. It's going
their way almost always.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
So let's talk.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Let's switch gears a little bit and talk about something
kind of fun. Gary Pettis comes aboard. He will be
here today to kind of learn the Giants personnel. Very
important for a third base coach. It's astonishing that somebody
with Gary Pettis's resume is available a third base coach
for a team that needed an experienced third base coach.
(20:04):
This is a guy who has coached in numerous World Series,
won two titles, been you know, a coach for more
than twenty years. Was a premium center fielder, like maybe
the best center fielder of his era. Good base running coach,
apparently a great bunting coach, which I think the Giants
(20:24):
also could use that.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Very fast as good a base runner.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
At Ron Washington said, the reason he is such a
great third base coach is he was a great base runner,
So I think this is absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Hire.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
He's very close to Dusty Baker and Ron Washington. That
goes a long way with me. So really amazing they
have somebody like that that they can just pluck in
mid season.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, Herry's a nice guy. I used to love him
as a player. Jet Pet he could go get him
in the outfield, and you have two young center fielders
and Gilbert and Cox, so that can't hurt either. Yeah.
They asked me on the pregame show yesterday at CAMBR
about Gary Pettis, and I said, I don't care if
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he's a nice guy. I don't care about his resume.
I just wanted to send guys home when he's supposed
to and stop guys at third when he's supposed to do.
That's all I care about. But I heard he's a
really good dude.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, and even if he's not, that might not necessarily
be a bad thing either. Like if yeah, if he
can tell guys what's what when needed, that's I'm fine
with that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I think they might eat they could use something I
don't think he's going to come right in and start
kicking butt left and right or anything like that. I
think he's got to get used to him, maybe for
a few weeks. But I have no idea, no problem.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
If he gives some I have a checklist. I thought
Tony was going to go last night. He was chirping
about I think eye contact endeavor's getting quick pitched by
Kyle Harrison.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Kyle was quick pitching a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
He was as I want to see him throw a base.
I want to see him get thrown out. And this
is that fire that the Giants hired him for and
the the the College Tennessee enthusiasm. I just I would
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love to see it, you know. And I think Tony's
thing as well, we're losing and we're not playing well,
and that you have to win to be able to
do that. I really would love to see him just
go nuts and then his players go nuts. But you're
just kind of looking for that passion, that fire on
a daily basis and just letting it all hang out there.
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And if it doesn't happen today, guess what you bring
it tomorrow. But do you remember when I did the
show and I said this is the Giants are gonna
be the most hated team in baseball. And I meant
that as a positive, right because they're going to go
out there and they're going to play hard and slide
hard and maybe not make friends on the baseball field.
(23:03):
That I just that part hasn't That's the part that
maybe is the biggest head scratcher for me, because I
thought they would just be this wild and crazy bunch
with their new manager, and I just haven't seen that
part yet. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
The one thing that gives me pause is we see
these kind of crazy ra ra celebrations when they win.
To me, you can't do that when you're not winning consistently.
If you win once a week and then you you know,
kind of turn it into a sports center. Look how
fun this is, Look at us. I don't think that
necessarily flies.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, you got to be winning to do the thrust
and have that be colorful.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, that's your identity is not fun, raw raw. If
you're in last place, you just got to wear it.
You have to wear it, and you have to climb
out of first place at a last place and work
your way up before you can start doing stuff like that.
It looks kind of silly.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It does.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So we wanted to see the college stuff, but we
wanted to see the fire. We want to see the fire.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I agree with you. Look, and I'm an objective reporter.
We're not if they look flat.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And uh that.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Somebody's got somebody, You're one hundred percent right, somebody's got
to step up and do something. All right, let's look
who is doing well? I mean heating up. That's our
little segment. I would say, Jung, who is obviously has
been amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You're right, they hit streak. Who else you got?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I thought I had a pretty good broadcast last night.
I'm heating up. I'm heating up in the booth right now.
It's pretty funny. On a couple occasions. I read all
the promos correctly. That was good. I did the Cash
Creek Casino Resort without even reading the card top of
the seventh as always a sponsored by Cash Creek Casino.
I'm not going to do it, but I did the
(24:46):
whole thing. I told Joe in the break, I'm like,
I'm bored. I'm going to see if I can do
this promo without reading the card, and I did.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think they're one of our sponsors. Now I think
you've just inadvertently added them.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Maybe we make some money. That'd be great. Uh Who
I thought Bryce Eldridge off the bench last night, and
getting back to the point, I know Giants fans agree
with me, and hey, look I don't make the lineups.
I'm not in the front office. But man, i'd bat
him forth. Just let him go the rest of the year.
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His feet are so slow and quiet, and he's just
setting his foot down and minut's a wish and he's commanding.
He's commanding the strike soon. He's swinging at strikes, taking balls,
very mature at bats. He made a great play at
first in Game one of the series where he went
to the bag through a seat. On the money, you know,
maybe play him a couple of days a week at first,
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get Raffie off his feet. But I said before, lefty, righty, sidearm, lefty,
Who cares. I just want to see Bryce play, Samwi
Jonah Cox. Let him go, man, Let's see what he
can do. It might be hard to watch. He might
he might bund the ball back to the pitcher like
he did last night, or he might run into the
fence or miss a cutoff. I want to see that
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kid play because you know you're last place right now.
Let these guys go, give him a little leash, let's
see what they can do.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Absolutely, I think that's a great point. He needs to
play every day. I think we've been saying that for
a while now. I don't understand why they don't listen
to us.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Let him go, let him go, and.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
They shouldn't listen to anybody other than what's going on internally.
But you know, I'm just saying what I would think,
what I would like, he says a fan. I get
excited when Bryce is on deck, for God's sakes right now,
and then when he walks up to the box. And
I'll tell you this, I don't know if giants fans
know this. This guy's got a little edge to him.
He's got a little swagger to him. He wants to
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be the guy. He's twenty one years old and he's
not afraid of it. He wants to be the dude
of this franchise for a long time and an all star.
And he's got he's got some swagger and some edge
to him with which I didn't see in spring training.
You know, maybe he's like, I'm only twenty one years
old and now he's just like he's doing it. So
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that helps. And he's the middle of the order guy
for me, and an everyday guy. I want to see him.
I get excited when he's in the batter's box. I do.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Again, no disrespect to Buddy Kennedy at all. Like he
is a He's a nice piece for a team off
the bench. I think Bryce Elder just just got to play,
you know, really, I really do. We probably got a
lot of candidates for in the funk. We could take
probably the whole pitching staff. I mentioned Ray earlier.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
He is.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
He was an All Star this time last year, and
he has just not been quite right. He's been obviously hittable,
and he's not limiting damage, which is what veteran, reliable
veterans do is limit the damage when things start to snowball.
He's struggled to do that lately, and he needs to
get back on board. He knows that we all know it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, I agree, And I would just say everybody's in
the funk. When you travel with the team, Susan and
you're on the plane and you're in the hotel bar
after the games, in the lobby, you're on the bus,
you're in the clubhouse. This whole thing right now is
in a funk. From top to bottom. Everybody's reeling. And
I know fans are upset, and they should be. And
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I love the fact that Giants fans care so much.
I love the fact that Giants fans lashed out at
me for support and buster because they care. They absolutely care.
You're in trouble when they don't. And Giants fans care,
and everybody on the travel group, everybody in the whole organization,
even if they're not here, they care. And maybe they
care too much, and that's why this thing's all sideways
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right now. But the whole thing is in a funk.
It is, and they be the first ones to admit it.
And they're trying. They're trying to couple with them. Call
the kid up from Double A, he can fly. Try that.
I mean, they're they're searching, they're trying to make this
whole thing better. And you know, maybe there's some stuff
in the works behind the scenes. I don't know, but
right now, the whole thing is in a funk. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think I mentioned the other day when we were
talking about the story I did on Matt Chapman and
the issues he's been having with social media. I was
talking to a couple other guys about their social media
and Daniel Sussac again like much like Bryce, a sort
of mature for his age and his experience level. He said,
we've got high expectations. That's great, that's what we want.
(29:10):
So I thought that was, you know what a mature
and kind of the response you want to hear, like,
we're going for it, and if we don't meet our expectations,
we expect the criticism. You know, of course, threats and
wishes of harm to people's family not okay, we've been
through that already. But if you want to criticize players
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for not matching their expectations, and we had high, high expectations,
everyone did. They had internal high expectations, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
The one thing they really have to be cognizant of,
and I've been there because I was on some bad
teams in Montreal, is being comfortable with losing. Yeah, you
get to that point where you walk into a quiet
clubhouse every game after every game, and then all of
a sudden, you wash it off in two seconds and
it starts to become your new normal. To fight that man.
You got to fight and scrap and claw, and it's
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just I've been there, man, and you just never want
to be comfortable with losing and it be okay. Not
that they are, but sometimes you just get into this
rut where you're like, oh, well, get them tomorrow. The
next thing you know, it's September and you're still in
last place. But I don't know, I'm still holding out hope.
And maybe it's just me being a positive guy. They're
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just too good to be in last place, but they've
played at times like a last place team. Your record
is your resume, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
What you don't want to get to is the point
where you can tell lat in games when a team's
down that they've just given up. I'm not saying we've
necessarily seen that, but I'm a high alert for it
because you know that there are inklings maybe a little
bit in some games now. If it's a beat down,
totally different. But if it's a game that you're still
kind of at least kind of in with that sort
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of lineup, you can't suddenly be given away at bat's
late in games.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You got to keep fighting and.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You gotta get off the roller coaster. It's like, good game, yay,
bad game, Oh my god, good game yay. I mean,
it's the roller coaster right now, and we're all on
it because we all care. All right, good job, Susan.
Let's get out of here. I gotta go do a
Giants vacation thing with JT. Brewbaker and Drew Robinson. I
think his dog is.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Coming, Ellie. Ellie goes on the road.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Ellie is a support dog for Drew. Drew's been through
a lot. You know, I knew Drew's story, but I
read the ESPN story yesterday to prepare for this about Drew.
My goodness, what a special human being. And I, you know,
haven't got to know him as well as I should
because he's a guy that walks by and he goes
out and he gets his work done. He throws VP.
But man, that kid is a special individual and I'm
(31:43):
excited for him to share a story if he wants to.
I'm gonna ask him in their car on the way
over if he wants to share a story with it,
because it's heavy. I mean, for those of you who
don't know, it's just google Drew Robinson, ESPN there's an
amazing story about his career, high round draft pick. Things
were going well.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I wrote one too, you could.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
It was like a book.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, that's probably way better though, No it's not.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Jeff Passon killed it. Mine was very good. Drew's amazing that.
He really is amazing. Read both if you want to.
But yeah, I'm so happy. He's been on the road
everywhere this year. He's off and off in previous years
talking to the minor leaguers, which I think is is
really important too, about the importance of mental health and
(32:32):
taking care of mental health, which has been a part
of baseball that has changed so much f P since
you were playing. It's the emphasis on making sure that
you're okay. It's a tough sport. There's a lot of pressure.
Nobody knows that more than Drew uh and Ellie seeing
his dog Ellie every day. Honestly, it's often the best
(32:54):
part of my day.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's a god.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, gold.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Whatever, it's coold dog. And I'm big into mental health, man,
it's my passion. I worked with a lot of PTSD
veterans when I was back in DC. It's one of
my passions. So maybe I'll ask Drew for some advice
right now, because my mental health isn't as good as
it's been in the past, and I think it's okay
to say that. It really is. You know, if you
guys are having trouble or whatever, talk to somebody. Man.
(33:25):
It's good things happen when you just get it all
out and get some advice.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, so many more resources.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I got so many thoughts that I can't say right.
All right, sus a good job. Don't joke about that stuff.
I'll see at the ballpark later on. Thanks for watching,
Thanks for listening, Thanks for subscribing, Thanks for still being
a Giants fan. Thanks for the passion. You guys are awesome.
Bring it. I don't even care if it's negative, just
bring it. The fact that you guys care this much
is really really cool and we love that about you.
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All right, Susan, Swing hard in case you hit it. Wait,
I gotta do this. Hold on, I'm in charge of
the buttons. Right now. Here we go, swing hard in
case you hit it on Splash hit territory.
All right, this is gonna be so much fun. Wait,
my alarm's going off. This is gonna be so much fun.
Another episode of splash It Territory, Susan Slusser joins, us
I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and act happy
because I'm not. I'm not gonna sit here and do
a podcast like let's talk about the Giants are in
last place. I mean they are, and it just seems
(00:30):
like there are some good things going on, but then
they get in their own way, and you felt like
they were coming back. Last night they lose eight to three.
They lost the first game, what was it, sixteen to
two or something, I can't even remember, and I'm doing
the games, and then last night it looks like they're
gonna amount a comeback and the Bryce Eldridge pinch it.
Chung hou Lee gets a pinch it. He extends the
(00:51):
sitting streak to ten games. It's hard to do off
the bench, and they're right there, and then they give
up the four spot in the bottom of the eighth
and lose eight to three. Your five spot, I don't
even know. I don't even know, and I'm not going
to sit in your neck like everything's going to change
because they're in last place.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, it's some bad trends, particularly on the pitching side.
We'll get into that in a minute. The run differential
is awful, which is typical for a last place team.
We're seeing this strange situation, typical of teams that just aren't,
you know, can't get it together, where the offense is
bad one month, the pitching is terrible, the next month
(01:30):
they've never clicked at all. Good teams minimize those stretches.
Every team gets a little bit of that right where
you're not quite in sync with your various different scoring
runs preventing runs. But the Giants have a whatever can
go wrong goes wrong situation. Pitching's bad right now, they
don't have any luck, and they make mistakes at the
(01:52):
worst possible times. And for me, when we get into
the pitching, oh my gosh, the number of walks is
just ridiculous, particularly and shutdown Anians. I asked, I've asked why.
I tell her a lot about that recently, and I've
mentioned it on the show before. Every time the Giants score, immediately,
whoever's pitching comes out the next inning walks the lead
(02:13):
off battery. You just can't do that it's just gonna
kill you, and he basically said all walks are bad,
which yeah, so, uh, it's not pretty and last place.
It's not just last place, worst record in the National League.
This is uh, look to everybody that ripped us early
on for keeping on saying it's early.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It's early, it's early.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Maya kulpa you guys. Maybe you guys want to something.
Here we are, We're in June, worst record in the
National League. I still think this is a better team
than what they've played and certainly better than their record,
but they're not showing it. So uh, I don't know
what what is the fundamental issue with this team FP
can you tell?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
There's a lot of them, But the main one for
me is, you know, in a day and age when
there's so many analytics and numbers and it's deeper than that,
something's missing. Right now, there's still one hundred games left.
I have no idea where this goes, but something's missing.
And it takes a kind of like somebody to get
(03:20):
so pissed and so frustrated, so embarrassed to just have
a let it rip mentality where I'm just gonna go
out there tonight and let it rip. I don't care
about my numbers. I don't care about this. I'm just
gonna just from the manager all the way down to
the last player. We're gonna let it rip. What do
we have to lose right now? Like we have the
(03:42):
worst record of the National League, we're in last place.
We have nothing to lose. And sometimes that frees you up.
You could go two ways. You could be deer in
the headlights, we suck, and then guys start saying we suck.
Can you believe this? I thought this had a chance
to be a really good team in spring training. I
can't believe a team with this much talent is where
they are right now. I've been in baseball my entire life,
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and I don't know that I've seen anything like this.
And it's so easy. It's such low hanging fruit to
kick people when they're down. I think in my experiences
in baseball as a broadcaster, I've been more critical of
a team that's in first place when they make mistakes,
then that's in last place, because I mean, come on,
it's low hanging fruit. It's like, you know, being hammered
at the end of the bar at three in the morning.
(04:25):
It means it's you just you don't want to get
on this team too much right now, because these guys
are wearing it. Man. You can see it in Tony's face,
you can see it in Buster's face, you can see
it in Chappy's face, you can see it in Willie's face.
And it's kind of I'll stop here in a second.
It's kind of deer in the headlights thing that they
can't if we can't believe it, they can't believe it.
(04:46):
You have to have like some pride to go out
there and play like good baseball on a daily basis.
And I'm not saying they don't have pride, because I
talk to these guys every day, but maybe there's a
little of just like Okay, today will be the day.
But like, there has to be a sense of urgency
with these guys right now, and I think there is.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It can't be an individual thing like I'm going to
go out myself and fix this. I think we've seen
too much of that. I understand the instinct, that's a
good instinct, that it has to be a collective. And
people ask all the time, is this because they have
a manager who's so inexperienced. I think everyone comes in
(05:24):
to blame here. Maybe having an inexperienced manager does not
help necessarily when you've got a team that's gone this
far south. But I'll tell you, I've covered baseball for
a long time. I've covered a lot of bad teams.
This is not a bad team. They have a bad record,
They've had a lot of bad performances. They just have
so much more talent than any other last place team
(05:47):
I've ever covered. It's really it's the strangest season, it
really is. I don't get it. You're right, something's missing.
I can't put my finger on it. But I mean,
we see where things are going. Luisa Rise is going
to be traded, and maybe sooner than later. If anybody
comes calling with a great package, I'm pretty sure they
could have Louis Risa among other things that kind of
(06:09):
selves some roster issues.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But he's the one guy that just is so intense
every night. Not that other guys aren't, he's just more demonstrative. Yeah,
I don't know, I really don't know. And I've talked
to a lot of people and we're all kind of
in the same boat. But I think it's we're all frustrated,
(06:31):
you know, you know, I talked to Hunter like, we're giants.
We care about the giants, we care about this organization,
we care about this team. And then you see some
good things on a nightly basis, like Willie going deep
last night or Louisa Rise getting a triple and a double,
and you know, there's just there's good things. Then all
of a sudden, there's not, and they shoot themselves in
(06:53):
the foot. The pinch hit by Bryce Eldridge, who he's
got to play every day. Man, just let him go
left righty amphibious both sides. I don't care if a
guy has three arms, Just let him play every single day.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No disrespect to Buddy Kennedy, but that was not you
look at that lineup. First of all, Bryce can hit
left handers. He also might have a better idea against
Kyle Harrison than some guys. You know, he's seen him
some as a teammate. So I don't know. Was that
one was a little bit of a head scratcher. Sometimes
I think maybe almost too many cooks are trying too
(07:27):
hard out like kind of outsmarting themselves with some of
the lineup.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Is I know, I just went along ramp, but we
have all these numbers in analytics and data. These guys
have everything at their fingertips down to the very but
like this, I don't care. This game is so mental.
So we have analytics and departments and these guys do
a great job and everything's at your fingertips to help
you get your swing right, your release point right, your
(07:53):
arm angle right, your spin right right. But like this
is so mental, man, Like right now you can. I
just this team's way too good to be in last
place and have the worst record in National League. But
your record as your resume.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So yeah, for sure, Let's talk a little bit about
last night because it was almost, to me like operatic,
like a like a Greek tragedy or something, you know,
prodigal son returns and kills the father kind of thing.
It was like in every aspect. Kyle Harrison dominates matches
his team. His career high with twelve strikeouts. Made it
(08:33):
look easy, he really did, and he looked especially kind
of geeked up against Rafael Devers. He wouldn't quite say
so afterwards, but his five four of his five top
velocity pitches came against Rafael Devers, strikes him out three times.
John Shay, formerly of the Chronicle, now that SF Standard
(08:55):
said is it fair to say this was a revenge game?
And he went like, yeah, I guess so, and then
he like no, no, no, no, just another game.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Clearly was it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Look, I think we're all really happy for Kyle Harrison.
He's local, couldn't be nicer. Has put in a lot
of effort. Was you know, shattered to get traded last
year from his hometown team, and then get traded again
from Boston. You know, immediately go to the minors with
Boston and then get traded again. He's landed in the
best possible place. The Brewers know what to do with pictures.
(09:27):
I Willia Dumas last night, said Maria Guardado from mob
dot Com, And I talked to him and Willy said,
they fixed. That's what the Brewers do. They need a
little the Giants need a little Brewer's magic. And I
know that's a team they pay attention too closely and
try to model themselves on. Right now, they're not doing
a very good job of it, frankly, But Kyle Harrison
(09:49):
is that moving him over on the rubber That was
step one. That was the Brewers, And he said he
immediately kind of felt well first, so the first time
he gave up home run, immediately was kind of, oh man, I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Going back over the other side.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Stuck with it, and he said, like almost immediately really
felt the difference. Arm angles up a little bit. You
mentioned that on the show the other day. Just looks
like a different guy. The Giants should be doing that,
frankly with their pitching, because they're pitching has really hurt
them this month because the offenses by and large to
come around. I was kind of going through trying for
a little who's in a funk segment? Hitters by and
(10:26):
larger are doing their jobs. I can't even say Chapman
right now. Chapman's, you know, contributing, so I don't know,
but that was, you know, Kyle and then the Brewers
are such a good team and they're in first place.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
They're taking the first two of this series.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I mean, Kyle Harrison's a little bit, you know, let's
show them, of.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Course, I mean, any good athlete does that chip on
your shoulder. You want to show your old team what
they're missing. Sometimes those things can get sideways where you
try too hard to get your old team. But I
remember Daniel Murphy and DC when he played the Mets
man he tortured and he got four game with damage
and it was just like, this is what you You
didn't want me, You didn't want me, and that's that's
what a good competitor does. And that's what Kyle Harrison.
(11:07):
I mean, I think the Red Sox should be more
pissed than the Giants for not I mean, that guy
was in Triple A for the Red Sox last he
didn't really play in the big leagues, and then they
got rid of him for the third baseman, drawing in
Blancott his name, which probably tells you all you need
to know.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I mean, that's here again, like Kyle's revenge. Look at
both these teams are under prime. I'm not saying Kyle
Harrison makes completely all the difference in the world for
either the Giants. Well maybe for the Giants or the
Red Sox, but both of these teams sure could use
Kyle Harrison.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'll say this too, like I'm not going to say
I was wrong on Kyle Harrison. I saw ninety two
ninety three with not real good off speed. But there
has to be you know, the Giants have to look
at themselves and the fact that there has to be
some sort of pitching lab where their guys can move
their pitchers on the rubber, and guys can get their
guys arm mangled up a little higher, whoever it is,
(12:04):
and then just to like really put your heads in
there and try to figure out what they can do
to make their pictures better. But man, he's a stud,
and I did. I never saw him sit at ninety
seven ninety eight. I never saw his slurve like it
was last night, So good for him. He walked off
the mound and I don't know who he was looking at.
What he struck out the side, and he did like
(12:24):
kind of like the sasquatch walk off the mound, and
he was looking up at the booth or one of
the sweets somewhere. And I turned to Joe Ritz, I'm like,
I was kind of down on him as he's looking
at me. He was, He's not looking at you. He's
looking at Buster or Zach or something like your way
down on his list.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Gotta be about UFP, always about me, Joe.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, So hey, you guys had kringle.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And though you guys are so high in my book
right now, you kringle in your booth, which thanks to
dwank Kiper and Dave Dave Fleming Fleming but that made
my day. So on the Giant's standpoint, the Kringle was outstanding.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
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Speaker 1 (14:02):
Where are we going with this thing? I'm I'm not
in a good mood today.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You really aren't. Yeah, And it's really.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
All of us. Man, We're close to these guys. We're
around him every day. You're the objective reporter. I'm not.
I'm a giant man. This is hard, I mean harder
for them, but like we wear it, we're invested.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So yeah, I mean, look, they have pitching problems. That's
the biggest issue right now. It's the starters and it's
the relievers. As I said, too many walks. They walked
seven last night. Five of those wound up coming around
to score. That's really all you need to know. But
Robbie Ray has to get it together. He's when we get.
When we get, I'm jumping the gun on my who's
(14:45):
in a funk. But Robbie Ray really has to get
it together. I mean, the their top two guys, Logan
webb Robbie Ray. I mean, nobody's pitching into the fifth
right now. Nobody that's certainly not deep into the fifth.
We're barely se in it. So the bullpen is getting
over taxed. The bullpen has not been as good lately.
(15:05):
They've been tax all year and we know that the
bullpen construction was questionable from the from the get go.
But I don't know what they do because they don't
have the kind of pitching depth right now they've had.
You look at Sacramento and there's nobody that jumps out
where you go, Well, like, just bring that guy up.
It was Trevor McDonald. He's here and I will say
(15:27):
last night it looked like he was going to have
the sort of disaster that befell Land and Root the previous.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Night and have just have a really dreadful outing kid. Yeah,
he lucked in. He did his job, so that that
was well done by him. They needed that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Uh it still wasn't quite enough and uh everyone needs
to get deeper. What are you seeing from the from
the pitching staff, particularly the starters.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I mean there's got the whole let it rip thing,
Like if you're a pitcher, I'd rather see you get
your head kicked in by being aggressive and throwing strikes,
then nibbling and walking guys, and especially against the Brewers,
these guys own the strike zone. They don't go outside
the strike zone, they're death by a thousand paper cuts.
They bunch you over, they walk, they get a base
(16:14):
hit the other way, they steal the base like so
even in Colorado you saw a couple the guys that
were just trying to shave corners. Like man, the pitchings
of mentality where I'm coming after you. F you here
I come. Here's my best stuff. And I'm not just
saying throw it down the middle and get the l
screen out there, but I'm saying, just be aggressive of
the zone and now it's your presence with authority, the
(16:36):
old nuclear Looch line, and just go after guys. And
then you know, the same thing. On the other side
of the baseball The Giants are going out of the
zone a lot on offense, like Barrakoto had a three
two pitch that was up and over his head last
night that he swung out. And you just don't see
other teams chasing as consistently as the Giants do in
big counts. So it's just it's all from a good place.
(17:00):
But as far as the pitching goes, the starting pitching
was five and fifteen in the month of May, with
a five to two one era like that's okay, but
it's wait, that's not okay. That'll get clipped and I'll
go viral. I'm so sick of the scrap to be
honest with you, like you talk now.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, well it's it's not okay, it's it's not that
is subpar. That'll that'll get your last place. They they're
better than this. Look, should they have signed a frontline starter?
Sounds great to me. They didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
They've got what they've got.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They don't have a ton of depth with Hayden bird Song,
having Tommy John, the guys that sort of are next
in line, Wizz' hunt, Seymour.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Guys like that. They could be good.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't think if they're necessarily ready right now. It's
always tough to tell with a PCL. It's a hitters league,
but the numbers aren't ones where you go like that's
your guy. So they're a little bit stuck right now.
Tyler Mally actually could be back quite soon. He's he
has not.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Been good this year.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
He would say that where he were, he right here,
maybe a little break, maybe fixing whatever's up with a hammy,
although I don't remember a hammy requiring just a minimum
stay on the IL. But he's throwing a bullpen today,
so that's that's pretty quick off the block after going
on the IL. I suspect he's getting ready if somebody
(18:23):
else really underperforms or if there's an injury, they just
aren't really covered. So to me, and I'm not pushing
in a rise trade, I'm really not. I love him,
I love watching him every day. He is such a
special player now on both sides of the ball. But
if and when they trade him, they need to get
back a reliable starter who is big league ready, a
(18:46):
young one. I don't know if that's possible, but that's
if I'm them, that's what I'm asking for. So uh,
it's it's really kind of kind of tough.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So hey, let's talk. Let's talk about Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
The Giants have had eighteen walks in the first two games.
The Giants pitching eleven, eleven and seven yesterday, So that
that's against the Brewers team that has speed, that can
run the bases, and all right, just go bury bury
him first pitch. Second, Webby's on the mount tonight. You're
going to see a good one from Logan web tonight.
Mark my words. Okay, his stuff was sharp in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
One of the things with the Brewers and the Giants
were good at this in the spring.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't know what happened. They are so great at
their strike zone is so good.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
They're great at ABS challenges. They're one of the best
teams in the in the league with the ABS challenges.
You know when they're heard the plate and the challenge
is not going it's not going your way. It's going
their way almost always.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
So let's talk.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Let's switch gears a little bit and talk about something
kind of fun. Gary Pettis comes aboard. He will be
here today to kind of learn the Giants personnel. Very
important for a third base coach. It's astonishing that somebody
with Gary Pettis's resume is available a third base coach
for a team that needed an experienced third base coach.
(20:04):
This is a guy who has coached in numerous World Series,
won two titles, been you know, a coach for more
than twenty years. Was a premium center fielder, like maybe
the best center fielder of his era. Good base running coach,
apparently a great bunting coach, which I think the Giants
(20:24):
also could use that.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Very fast as good a base runner.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
At Ron Washington said, the reason he is such a
great third base coach is he was a great base runner,
So I think this is absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Hire.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
He's very close to Dusty Baker and Ron Washington. That
goes a long way with me. So really amazing they
have somebody like that that they can just pluck in
mid season.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, Herry's a nice guy. I used to love him
as a player. Jet Pet he could go get him
in the outfield, and you have two young center fielders
and Gilbert and Cox, so that can't hurt either. Yeah.
They asked me on the pregame show yesterday at CAMBR
about Gary Pettis, and I said, I don't care if
(21:13):
he's a nice guy. I don't care about his resume.
I just wanted to send guys home when he's supposed
to and stop guys at third when he's supposed to do.
That's all I care about. But I heard he's a
really good dude.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, and even if he's not, that might not necessarily
be a bad thing either. Like if yeah, if he
can tell guys what's what when needed, that's I'm fine
with that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I think they might eat they could use something I
don't think he's going to come right in and start
kicking butt left and right or anything like that. I
think he's got to get used to him, maybe for
a few weeks. But I have no idea, no problem.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
If he gives some I have a checklist. I thought
Tony was going to go last night. He was chirping
about I think eye contact endeavor's getting quick pitched by
Kyle Harrison.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Kyle was quick pitching a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
He was as I want to see him throw a base.
I want to see him get thrown out. And this
is that fire that the Giants hired him for and
the the the College Tennessee enthusiasm. I just I would
(22:19):
love to see it, you know. And I think Tony's
thing as well, we're losing and we're not playing well,
and that you have to win to be able to
do that. I really would love to see him just
go nuts and then his players go nuts. But you're
just kind of looking for that passion, that fire on
a daily basis and just letting it all hang out there.
(22:41):
And if it doesn't happen today, guess what you bring
it tomorrow. But do you remember when I did the
show and I said this is the Giants are gonna
be the most hated team in baseball. And I meant
that as a positive, right because they're going to go
out there and they're going to play hard and slide
hard and maybe not make friends on the baseball field.
(23:03):
That I just that part hasn't That's the part that
maybe is the biggest head scratcher for me, because I
thought they would just be this wild and crazy bunch
with their new manager, and I just haven't seen that
part yet. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
The one thing that gives me pause is we see
these kind of crazy ra ra celebrations when they win.
To me, you can't do that when you're not winning consistently.
If you win once a week and then you you know,
kind of turn it into a sports center. Look how
fun this is, Look at us. I don't think that
necessarily flies.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
No, you got to be winning to do the thrust
and have that be colorful.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, that's your identity is not fun, raw raw. If
you're in last place, you just got to wear it.
You have to wear it, and you have to climb
out of first place at a last place and work
your way up before you can start doing stuff like that.
It looks kind of silly.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It does.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So we wanted to see the college stuff, but we
wanted to see the fire. We want to see the fire.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I agree with you. Look, and I'm an objective reporter.
We're not if they look flat.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
And uh that.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Somebody's got somebody, You're one hundred percent right, somebody's got
to step up and do something. All right, let's look
who is doing well? I mean heating up. That's our
little segment. I would say, Jung, who is obviously has
been amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You're right, they hit streak. Who else you got?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I thought I had a pretty good broadcast last night.
I'm heating up. I'm heating up in the booth right now.
It's pretty funny. On a couple occasions. I read all
the promos correctly. That was good. I did the Cash
Creek Casino Resort without even reading the card top of
the seventh as always a sponsored by Cash Creek Casino.
I'm not going to do it, but I did the
(24:46):
whole thing. I told Joe in the break, I'm like,
I'm bored. I'm going to see if I can do
this promo without reading the card, and I did.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think they're one of our sponsors. Now I think
you've just inadvertently added them.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Maybe we make some money. That'd be great. Uh Who
I thought Bryce Eldridge off the bench last night, and
getting back to the point, I know Giants fans agree
with me, and hey, look I don't make the lineups.
I'm not in the front office. But man, i'd bat
him forth. Just let him go the rest of the year.
(25:16):
His feet are so slow and quiet, and he's just
setting his foot down and minut's a wish and he's commanding.
He's commanding the strike soon. He's swinging at strikes, taking balls,
very mature at bats. He made a great play at
first in Game one of the series where he went
to the bag through a seat. On the money, you know,
maybe play him a couple of days a week at first,
(25:37):
get Raffie off his feet. But I said before, lefty, righty, sidearm, lefty,
Who cares. I just want to see Bryce play, Samwi
Jonah Cox. Let him go, man, Let's see what he
can do. It might be hard to watch. He might
he might bund the ball back to the pitcher like
he did last night, or he might run into the
fence or miss a cutoff. I want to see that
(25:58):
kid play because you know you're last place right now.
Let these guys go, give him a little leash, let's
see what they can do.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Absolutely, I think that's a great point. He needs to
play every day. I think we've been saying that for
a while now. I don't understand why they don't listen
to us.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Let him go, let him go, and.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
They shouldn't listen to anybody other than what's going on internally.
But you know, I'm just saying what I would think,
what I would like, he says a fan. I get
excited when Bryce is on deck, for God's sakes right now,
and then when he walks up to the box. And
I'll tell you this, I don't know if giants fans
know this. This guy's got a little edge to him.
He's got a little swagger to him. He wants to
(26:36):
be the guy. He's twenty one years old and he's
not afraid of it. He wants to be the dude
of this franchise for a long time and an all star.
And he's got he's got some swagger and some edge
to him with which I didn't see in spring training.
You know, maybe he's like, I'm only twenty one years
old and now he's just like he's doing it. So
(26:56):
that helps. And he's the middle of the order guy
for me, and an everyday guy. I want to see him.
I get excited when he's in the batter's box. I do.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Again, no disrespect to Buddy Kennedy at all. Like he
is a He's a nice piece for a team off
the bench. I think Bryce Elder just just got to play,
you know, really, I really do. We probably got a
lot of candidates for in the funk. We could take
probably the whole pitching staff. I mentioned Ray earlier.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
He is.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
He was an All Star this time last year, and
he has just not been quite right. He's been obviously hittable,
and he's not limiting damage, which is what veteran, reliable
veterans do is limit the damage when things start to snowball.
He's struggled to do that lately, and he needs to
get back on board. He knows that we all know it.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, I agree, And I would just say everybody's in
the funk. When you travel with the team, Susan and
you're on the plane and you're in the hotel bar
after the games, in the lobby, you're on the bus,
you're in the clubhouse. This whole thing right now is
in a funk. From top to bottom. Everybody's reeling. And
I know fans are upset, and they should be. And
(28:08):
I love the fact that Giants fans care so much.
I love the fact that Giants fans lashed out at
me for support and buster because they care. They absolutely care.
You're in trouble when they don't. And Giants fans care,
and everybody on the travel group, everybody in the whole organization,
even if they're not here, they care. And maybe they
care too much, and that's why this thing's all sideways
(28:28):
right now. But the whole thing is in a funk.
It is, and they be the first ones to admit it.
And they're trying. They're trying to couple with them. Call
the kid up from Double A, he can fly. Try that.
I mean, they're they're searching, they're trying to make this
whole thing better. And you know, maybe there's some stuff
in the works behind the scenes. I don't know, but
right now, the whole thing is in a funk. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think I mentioned the other day when we were
talking about the story I did on Matt Chapman and
the issues he's been having with social media. I was
talking to a couple other guys about their social media
and Daniel Sussac again like much like Bryce, a sort
of mature for his age and his experience level. He said,
we've got high expectations. That's great, that's what we want.
(29:10):
So I thought that was, you know what a mature
and kind of the response you want to hear, like,
we're going for it, and if we don't meet our expectations,
we expect the criticism. You know, of course, threats and
wishes of harm to people's family not okay, we've been
through that already. But if you want to criticize players
(29:34):
for not matching their expectations, and we had high, high expectations,
everyone did. They had internal high expectations, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
The one thing they really have to be cognizant of,
and I've been there because I was on some bad
teams in Montreal, is being comfortable with losing. Yeah, you
get to that point where you walk into a quiet
clubhouse every game after every game, and then all of
a sudden, you wash it off in two seconds and
it starts to become your new normal. To fight that man.
You got to fight and scrap and claw, and it's
(30:04):
just I've been there, man, and you just never want
to be comfortable with losing and it be okay. Not
that they are, but sometimes you just get into this
rut where you're like, oh, well, get them tomorrow. The
next thing you know, it's September and you're still in
last place. But I don't know, I'm still holding out hope.
And maybe it's just me being a positive guy. They're
(30:25):
just too good to be in last place, but they've
played at times like a last place team. Your record
is your resume, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
What you don't want to get to is the point
where you can tell lat in games when a team's
down that they've just given up. I'm not saying we've
necessarily seen that, but I'm a high alert for it
because you know that there are inklings maybe a little
bit in some games now. If it's a beat down,
totally different. But if it's a game that you're still
kind of at least kind of in with that sort
(30:54):
of lineup, you can't suddenly be given away at bat's
late in games.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You got to keep fighting and.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You gotta get off the roller coaster. It's like, good game, yay,
bad game, Oh my god, good game yay. I mean,
it's the roller coaster right now, and we're all on
it because we all care. All right, good job, Susan.
Let's get out of here. I gotta go do a
Giants vacation thing with JT. Brewbaker and Drew Robinson. I
think his dog is.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Coming, Ellie. Ellie goes on the road.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Ellie is a support dog for Drew. Drew's been through
a lot. You know, I knew Drew's story, but I
read the ESPN story yesterday to prepare for this about Drew.
My goodness, what a special human being. And I, you know,
haven't got to know him as well as I should
because he's a guy that walks by and he goes
out and he gets his work done. He throws VP.
But man, that kid is a special individual and I'm
(31:43):
excited for him to share a story if he wants to.
I'm gonna ask him in their car on the way
over if he wants to share a story with it,
because it's heavy. I mean, for those of you who
don't know, it's just google Drew Robinson, ESPN there's an
amazing story about his career, high round draft pick. Things
were going well.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I wrote one too, you could.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
It was like a book.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, that's probably way better though, No it's not.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Jeff Passon killed it. Mine was very good. Drew's amazing that.
He really is amazing. Read both if you want to.
But yeah, I'm so happy. He's been on the road
everywhere this year. He's off and off in previous years
talking to the minor leaguers, which I think is is
really important too, about the importance of mental health and
(32:32):
taking care of mental health, which has been a part
of baseball that has changed so much f P since
you were playing. It's the emphasis on making sure that
you're okay. It's a tough sport. There's a lot of pressure.
Nobody knows that more than Drew uh and Ellie seeing
his dog Ellie every day. Honestly, it's often the best
(32:54):
part of my day.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It's a god.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, gold.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Whatever, it's coold dog. And I'm big into mental health, man,
it's my passion. I worked with a lot of PTSD
veterans when I was back in DC. It's one of
my passions. So maybe I'll ask Drew for some advice
right now, because my mental health isn't as good as
it's been in the past, and I think it's okay
to say that. It really is. You know, if you
guys are having trouble or whatever, talk to somebody. Man.
(33:25):
It's good things happen when you just get it all
out and get some advice.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, so many more resources.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I got so many thoughts that I can't say right.
All right, sus a good job. Don't joke about that stuff.
I'll see at the ballpark later on. Thanks for watching,
Thanks for listening, Thanks for subscribing, Thanks for still being
a Giants fan. Thanks for the passion. You guys are awesome.
Bring it. I don't even care if it's negative, just
bring it. The fact that you guys care this much
is really really cool and we love that about you.
(33:55):
All right, Susan, Swing hard in case you hit it. Wait,
I gotta do this. Hold on, I'm in charge of
the buttons. Right now. Here we go, swing hard in
case you hit it on Splash hit territory.
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