April 19, 2024 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
And what you're talking about Doodoo Brown producing, there's another
record that has come back since that you produce There's
some Horrors in this Ouse, right, and now look at
that because what yeard you produce that record?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Uh, same year's Doodoo Brown. So I used to I
used to put out first. The thing that I did
first was I used to put out this thing called
club Tracks, and basically I would take these loops of
these songs and I was giving DJs a bridge, right,
So back then, you know you just had to be
(00:54):
fast withed or mixed with it or throw shit in.
I was like, but in Baltimore they were, they were mixers,
Baltimore DJ's mix and I gave them bridges with these songs.
So on one of the club Tracks album, I put
There's some Horrors in the House on the album, and
I put a whole bunch of experimental, just one off
songs that became huge. Miss Tony Horrores in the House,
(01:19):
a lot of shit on on them them.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Somebody not in your fucking wildest dreams that you think
they haven't many years later that that song would be
remade in the sense with Megan the Stallion, Cardi B
and Hell over a billion streams.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, I mean hit, that's some ship. Frank, listen, billion
fucking streams man.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I tell young people all the time, don't sell
your publishing boy thirty years because your motherfucking ate now
thirty years you ate.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Frank, you know what, you know what it is?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hey, y'all, Frank, hey by, Hey, listen, let me tell
you something, because what.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Percentage of that song do you all? Cardi Megan?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't want to say.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Man, motherfucker, this is story time with less day year.
He own part of it. So that's why I said
you eat.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, So that's why you smile. I'm not smiling because
this is the serious part of this sh what's that?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Listen?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
When when I put out Doodo Brown and and and
this is gonna be the teaching moment for you, Okay,
when I put out Doodoo Brown back, then you had
to take your You make the record. You they they
you send it to a mastering plant, a mastering place, right,
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the mastering place masters it. You have to pay for that,
and then the master sends it to the record pressing
plant the vinyl to press up the vinyl. Right, the
vinyl will cost you let's say it's a dollar a record.
It's a little bit more, but a dollar a record. Okay,
you're gonna get back when they sell that record in
the store. You're gonna get back two dollars. Because here's
(02:57):
what happens. I I the first time I'm gonna put
Doodo Brown out. I call Becky at Liaison Records. Right,
Becky said, I'm gonna need ten thousand records. Well, how
much is that gonna cost me? They're gonna call it.
They're gonna cost you ten thousand dollars to make ten
thousand records. Follow the math, everybody. I get ten thousand
records sent in for that Friday, they go in the
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record stores in Baltimore, sells out before eleven o'clock. So
now I got to wait another week to put records
in the store. This time she wanted twenty thousand records,
so it costs twenty thousand dollars. Right, So now I'm
out thirty thousand dollars in nineteen ninety two. I don't
have no more money. The twenty thousand records sell out
(03:41):
again Friday afternoon. That Friday, if premier on WPGC in Washington, DC, boom.
The next order was fifty thousand records, which means I
need fifty thousand dollars. The part I didn't tell you.
The record stores have ninety days to pay the distributor,
(04:01):
and the distributor has ninety days from when they get
the money to pay you. So you may be one
hundred and eighty days before you get any money back.
That means a half a year. So now I'm out
thirty thousand dollars and it may be a half a
year before I get any money back. So now I
got to put out another twenty five thousand.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I don't have it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I go to the bank. I had a relationship at
the bank. The banker happened to be black, and he
was like, i'll give it to you. Now, how much
money was this twenty five thousand. I send it to
the pressing plan press cop right. So now I'm fifty
five thousand dollars in. It sells out that weekend. The
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next week I get the call from my brother in
Miami and it wins on Power ninety six.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The next order was one hundred thousand records.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
They they extend you a line of credit.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Who's going to extend a line of the pressing plant.
No back then.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Now I'm only three weeks in because I don't have
no tra record. But the thing is they didn't. They
didn't because a lot of people were ordering a lot
of records, and there's a lot of records sitting in
people's garages this day. That us right, Okay, So at
that point I'm stuck. The majors are like, oh, we're
gonna give it a couple more weeks, so nobody would
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sign me. I went to Luke, he didn't want it.
I went everywhere. Nobody wanted the fucking record. And then
my guy who was on the record with me, Stanley.
His uncle was named Joey Bonner. Joey Bonner was a
big record guy. He said, we're gonna, we're gonna take
you over to this label Warlock. That was Adam Levy.
(05:40):
Adam Levy was the son of mister Levy in the
book The Hit Men. Okay, he said, we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're gonna sign to you. We're gonna sign you. Gave
me a little advance, he said, but we need an album.
Bro got on a plane, went to Cincinnati to their
studio and did an album in two days. They put
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the album out. I never saw another dime. I never
saw another dime on millions of records being sold. So
I did wares in the house they put it out.
I never saw a dime. So when you talk about
Cardi B did this record, and I ate No. Cardi
(06:22):
B did the record and I got paid back because
God said, whatever they take from you, I'm going to
repay you ten times. And that's how God works. As
long as you stay faithful.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Amen, I can woo amen of that, bro.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Then that's how that happened.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And Warlike Records never cut you one fucking check.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Nope, they cut me your first advance and that was it,
and that was it.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Never saw any more money. But the twenty fifth anniversary
of Frank Ski's coming out for all the DJs out there,
just wanted to let you know.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And you've been from a DJ perspective, being on the air,
being radio stations, like I said, from Baltimore to Atlanta,
like I said at the beginning Radio Hall of Famer,
what one thing have you noticed not noticed but one?
What is one main difference when you first got in
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radio to now because you're still relevant. You still got
one of the top shows here in Atlanta, top two
shows DC and Atlanta. And you've been relevant for so long.
But what's one major thing or one thing that you've
you've noticed different years when you first got in radio
to now.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
These new DJs don't do no service. They don't serve nobody.
They don't give back. Yeah, they do a turkey giveaway nigga.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Everybody does that.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Street niggas do that. Yeah, don't do that. Don't mean nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, but how much are you really giving back? Like,
how much are you really like volunteering hours like weekly,
going to schools, eating the kids, taking mentees, feeding the homeless.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Taking kids to the Galapagos Island?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
How much are you serving? Like when I got in radio,
that was part of what we did. Remember the black
radio station was the heartbeat of the coming you have
to do everything beat. So these kids that are getting
in today don't know the service part. So because they
don't know the service part, they never really get ingrained.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
In the community.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
They never really get to be at Greg Street, they
never get to be a Ryan Cameron, those are from Atlanta.
They never get to be a big tater because they
don't they haven't put in the grind to give back.
There's some dope people out there, and I hear them
all the time. Man, there's a lot of people. I
love them on the radio. But you gotta give back, man,
you gotta you gotta serve the people and give back, Like,
(08:50):
what are you doing to give back?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And I've watched you and you just named two other
close friends of mine, Gregg Street and Ryan Cameron. I
watched all three of y'all give selfish like you. I'm
told that I could call you or call And it's
funny because I was having this conversation with somebody recently
about Greg Street, who's coming on the show as well,
and they was like, how is he still able to
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connect with with these kids? And I said, man, you
can name a high school, middle school, Greg can name
a pe teacher there. He can name an assistant principal,
the prince of principal. He got everybody's number, everybody. He
doesn't take everybody fishing. Yeah, Like that's how he's been
able to stay connection and stay relevant. And it goes
into what you said. Guys like you, Ryan, Frank Tig, y'all,
(09:35):
y'all are here, y'all really in the community.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I talked to Tigger.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I talked to Tigger a couple of days ago when
Magic Johnson was here and and I just congratulated him
on the be et thing and everything. And I said,
you know, I said, you you've given so much, you
know what I mean? And I said, I said, I
don't know if b I know, b Et has recognized you.
But really, when Bob Johnson's so e T.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
You should have got a piece.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That should have been a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Everybody who was on that air should have got a
little piece, even if it was one percent or half
a percent about it was of course, of course to
b T.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
That was it, that that's made? That may be e T.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Donn Simpson, Donnie Simson, what was? But you know what
what what what he Sherry Carter?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And and what what Tigger said was he said, he said,
do you know how many of my interns I'm running businesses?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I said, me too, Wow, I said me too.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I said, I'll never be broke because I got so
many interns out there running ship right now, one of
them would give me a job.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And that'll let you know that your hands have been
involved to really push and make sh it happen.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I was at the Magic Johnson thing. I'm not going
to say her name. She came up to me. She
told me her name, and she said, do you remember me?
I said absolutely, I remember. And she's running a major
aide your company right now. Major And I was like,
I didn't know she was doing that. And I said
what you been doing? And she told me.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So you know how she remembers me twelve years old?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I did that trip when she was twelve. I did
that trip to South Africa.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And I took my sons Franklin, Harrison and Blake to
South Africa with a bunch of listeners from V one
O three. I remember her father took her and all
her siblings because I was taking my kids.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
She said, I went to South Africa because of you.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Damn damn twelve years old man. And now she's now
she's a big executive running.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yes, of course, yeah, but it goes.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I can, I can. The list is vast. I got
off the Delta flight. I got off the Delta flight
coming coming back when I took Gezie fishing last weekend, right,
I get off the Delta flight.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
The Gate Agent is stairs.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Like frank'ske I said, yeah, brother, you know he was
like he said, I played in the first Youth Bowl.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I played for Ben Hill.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Damn what was that bout ninety nine nine? When was
the first youth bot two thousand?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, probably somewhere right there. I said, it's service, bro,
that service when you served, When you serve people, remember,
yes they do. God works in crazy ways. I'm gonna
tell you this real quick, just show you how God works.
I wanted to take my family to the to the
Georgia Mountains to an Airbnb, and you know, you hear
(12:30):
all these rumors like oh Airbn people won't rent you
if you're black, and all this other stuff. Right, So
I found this like nice little house up there, and
I wanted to go fishing, and it just so happened
that this house has a trout lake on that on
the property.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
It's like a private lake.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So I hit the guy and I said, I really
want to bring my wife and my four year old
daughter just to spend the weekend. And I signed it.
Frank Ski Rodriguez, white guy hits me back. He said, man,
do you know how many times your inspirational vitamins saved
my life. Whoa God, whoa Whoa. I met him and
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he said, I listened to your inspirational vitamin. And I
heard Bishop Eddie Long one day and I had to
go to the church white God went to all black
new birth, met his wife, she black, They got kids.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Their house.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Well, he said that saved his life.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Saved his life.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I do the inspirational vitamin because God wants me to
do it. It's part of service. I don't know who
it's going to affect. Sometimes it affects me.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Hey man, That's why we got Frank Ski on this show,
because this type brother he is.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Before we get out of here, it off Frank a
couple of things before I bring new face in.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Before you bring new face in, I'm gonna tell you
one story, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Because I really respect your music, your music acumen, and
just your whole cachet. One producer, one songwriter. Who you're
picking to do your album?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
One producer and one songwriter?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
H m hmmm.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
What kind of album am I doing?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Whatever album you want? Frank Stott doing a rap album,
Let's we gonna keep it. You're doing a rap album
right now, Pete Rock, Wow, that's your producer.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's my producer because he loves music.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And you're doing an R and B album.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
What songwriter Neil.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Mhmm. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Interesting, I can't say R Kelly.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So so it's so R Kelly and Neo NEI okay,
Neil writes from his heart.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
All right, So I want to tell you this story
before my face comes in ahead, all right, I just
want to say this. And I heard Red Alert mentioned
this on a podcast, and he was the first person
that I really heard publicly say this on a major podcast.
So one of the pivotal moments in hip hop was
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a rap battle at Harlem World between Kolmo D and
the rapper Busy Bee. That was the first rap battle
that ever went down.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
The rap battle happened at an event called the Harlem
World DJ Convention right u MC Convention, and it was
a contest YEP eighty two. It was a contest.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I was in New York.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
My uncle was one of the owners of Harlem World,
and I told my uncle, I said, I'm gonna getting
this rap contest. I'm on on stage. One of the
other people in the in the amateur division, Dougie D
who's Dougie Fresh me Frank Ski get up there, and
I won the amateur division.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Over Dougie Fresh.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yes, okay, but not anymore. Dougie Fresh will blow me.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Out the water.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And back then you won on age.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
But we were just we just kids.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah. The funny thing is when I got on stage,
I mentioned that I had come up from Florida and
I'm on this stage and I can play it for you.
And I said, I just came here to let you
know that the South can do this too.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
So before before Andre three thousand, Frank, we're gonna need
that audio. Look, look, Frank, before Andre three thousand got
up in the Source Awards, what was that ninety five?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'll play it for you, but said.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
The South got something to motherfucker say. That's right, Hey man,
this is my brother right here. Man, this dude right here.
We we we could talk for hours and hours a
put your philanthropy. Yeah, I mean this this guy right here,
I said, And I said at the beginning to show
the reason I want to have him on is because
people need to know absolutely that, they need to know
what he's done and what you know and your contributions. Frank,
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and I just want to tell you Man, you know
I'm not going you know, on a personal level the
things you've done for me. Man, Hey boy, we could,
like I said, we could talk music because you are
one of the few casts that have seen it from
like I say, give me not even with that story
of you being Dougie Fresh in the Harlem world, like
you've seen it from from New York to Baltimore to
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the a You've been there, man, And I just want
to tell you, boy, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'm gonna bring my brother New Face in and let
me tell you something what New Face is about to
show you. Boy, I'm scared. Let me let me tell
you all. New Face of course, for those who watch
the show every week, he's the hip hop hoarder, and
he's really his contributions to the culture unmatched.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And he's coming in right now because he has something special.
Uh okay, he's got a couple of questions probably for
you too.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Come on New.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Face story time with Legend Jerry.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Of course every week we have our special special segment
with my brother. Uh, mister new Face was there? New
Face the hip hop hoarder, he's the hip hop historian.
There's so many adjectives. I've got use Frank Sky, but
legis know for new face to be here, and he's
got some he got some surprise. I don't know what
he might pull he gonna pull out some. But I
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want to introduce my brother new face.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
He got Hey man, thank you man. At first of all, like,
I'm really like honored to be in this position. Man,
you two are brothers that I'm really from the outside
looking in, like I look to for support, Like you
were one of them people that you spoke about, the
brother with the inspiration of vitamin How you inspired them.
You know, I had children at the time, and so
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you on the radio when I'm taking their daughters to school.
You were that station that I turned to when I
was pumping the gas and I knew it was okay
if they were listening. You were in their arms while
I went in the store. You know, I knew they
were safe with you. The things you were doing before
people were even waking up. That was the inspiration to me.
And one of the things I wanted to just say
personally that the adversities you went through, you were that
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person that I looked to where something happened, maybe a
position changed or a different station or a different disc
and your bounce back was just phenomenal. Brother, Like I
always seen, oh you know, you know, even before social
media and the streets, what you heard, what happened to
Frankin and every time you bounce back, And I just
wanted to personally say always looked at that as a
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reflection and motivation. And as far as the children, me
and Jerry Clark talk about our children and how proud
he is. I want to just say, how proud you
are Franklin, Like I be with Gez and like it really,
you know, and I know Chris, I know Gez, but
I'm with him when I see Franklin. Yeah, I really
go to him and I'm just like it's crazy. So
(20:22):
one I wanted to say, one, how proud you are
of him? And how did that interaction, how did you
interact with that, and how did that come into fold
with that position for Franklin.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know, Franklin has never wanted to be a musician
or anything. He just wanted to be on the business
side of it. He thinks like a businessman, and he
went to school at LSU and he thought he was
going to come out and work for Kevin lows, and
you know, we were talking about it, and he did everything.
(20:53):
I mean, he started playing golf just because he was
going to come out and have this position. And right
around that time, Jay hit me and was like, what
do you think if I interview Franklin? And I was like, dope,
go right ahead. So I had to step back, and
he was like I just I said, look, listen, if
it don't work, it don't mean nothing between me and you.
(21:14):
It's you got to feel comfortable, you know. So I
make sure that I keep a balance between his relationship
with with Jez and what he's doing, and then me
and Jeez has a separate relationship.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
We don't even talk about.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It because because you know, Franklin has to he has
to take the hits in the in the in the
knockdowns and and and the corrections and and he's learning.
But he's going to be a great music executive. And
I'm proud of that because I want to make sure
when I'm not here, there's somebody keeping the legacy alive.
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And when you are a parent and you have a
child that kind of follows in the industry that you're in,
it really means a lot. I have an inspirational vitamin
book coming out, and I got a whole chapter about
that that as black people, we need to be more
determined in making sure our kids follow what we do
because we've opened up a lot of doors. So if
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you Jerry Clark, and you open up all these doors
for other people, why can't you open up the doors
for your own kids and keep the legacy alive.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
And the problem is we.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Keep changing what we do from generation and we never
really build real wealth because we don't have nothing that
we can say. This business been around for one hundred years,
and the only way we're going to do that is
if our kids keep following what we do. So if
you're a doctor, you need to have doctor kids, just
like white woken Jewish people. If you in the music,
your kids need to do something with music. They can
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be a musical lawyer, you know, anything they want to do.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
This should be related.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
To what because we've opened up too many doors. So
I'm proud that he's in that place. He's getting his
knocks though it ain't easy.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
It ain't He's.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Like, I'm working all these hours, dad, Oh my god,
I've gotten three hours leap.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I was like, boy, at least you getting paid ship
we was doing it wasn't getting paid.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
So again that's as a fire. It's great to see
as well.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
And like Jerry said, I did bring something out and
honestly I had this at at the house.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
But I'm sending it.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
You know, I'm decorating the boat for the Rock the
Bells cruise. So I had to cassette single.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Oh my god, this right.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
There it is camera one right.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Yeah, So I didn't have that physically, but I do
have that one.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
But what I did was this old magazine.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
When I was at ear Wax Records, I would get
the magazines right and there was in the back of it.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I showed Dallas this. It was this situation. That's this
photo here. Wow.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
And can you let the list look how you had
a full head looked like damn texturizing his head.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Look at the waves and ship.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Wow. You remember that moment with the Mayor of Atlanta, right, the.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Mayor Mayor Bill Campbell.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
And me and Jerry are just marveling over like how
many people we lost?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
This right on there? If you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
From from Jim Crow.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
This is crazy, man, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
And lastly, the evolution recently, I was at the Tabernacle
and Gucci Man brought out t I. I know you're
in radio and you've been with these three gentlemen right here,
So what I.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Brought these out? And if you could just speak to
the evolution of these.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Gentlemen from your perspective and from radio personally and trap
music as a whole, you know it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It really humbles me to see these three artists because
I because I know all three of them. I was
very close to to Jiz and and when Jez came out,
he came to one of my wine tastings at my house,
and he always tells me. He said, man, when I
walked into your house and I saw you know, your
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family and and all the people in the house that
he was raising money for kids, he said, this is
what I want in my life. And and that meant
a lot, you know, uh t I. When t I
was on house arrest, he called me to come to
his house and rap with him and just.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Hang out with him.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
When Gucci Man was in jail, he wrote me a
letter h from from jail, and I mean, it's like
you know, and and I think that it's not because
oh I'm your hangout buddy. Oh, I'm gonna come and
we're gonna turn up and whatever. It's not that, it's
like you have to be a person of a certain
(25:40):
moral character. When people are going through shit and they
need to talk to somebody, You're gonna be non judgmental
because I've been where they are. You're gonna be loving,
You're gonna give it to them straight, and you're gonna
let them know what it is. And I think that
to see all of them and where they've grown to,
(26:01):
I'm just like super proud of the culture because they
are proof positive that you can go from being crazy
and rambunctious in the street.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It's all about growth. Yeah, that's the key work.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
And speaking of being there for somebody personally, I remember
being at Jerry Clark's birthday party some years ago and
there was a story told that Jerry Clark needed letters
for the Judge of recommendations.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
If I believe, Yeah, yeah, I needed I needed a letter,
just a character letter, because I was about to I
was under federal investigation. I was about to go do
prison time, and I needed some character letter. So I
reached out to people that I considered to be friends, family,
and I'll never forget. My attorney hit me and was like,
(26:44):
hey man, he was like and it wasn't even an
I don't even think a day had passed, maybe two days,
and my attorney hit me and said, man, we already
got one letter. And I was like, oh cool, who
is it? He was like Frank Ski. He was like, man,
that you and all the stuff he was. All the
stuff you said about him is really true because this man,
he's a lot of people, some of their closest friends
(27:05):
and family never even come through as simple as it
is doing a character and his brother right here when
I needed him the most, he was there for me.
That's the type Caddy years and he's always been like that.
We watched our kids grow up and every everything. So
you know, that's why it was so important New Face
to have him more storytime of legends.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
I definitely wanted that show, that story to be told
on this platform. And lastly, these are some quick round questions.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Okay, real quick. You know hip hop turn fifty.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
You know recently, out of these fifty years, your your
personal favorite hip hop moment.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
My personal favorite hip hop moment of all time? It
would it would probably it would have to be. I
was invited to New York for Jay Z's Reasonable Doubt
album release at Roseland, and I remember I'm outside and
(28:05):
I couldn't get through the crowd and Mike Kaiser at
Deaf Jam at the time, Mike Kaiser was like, Ski
come through, and they pushed through and brought me in.
And I'm just like because I was I was living
at the time in Baltimore. And I walk in and
it's just like a sea of people and it was
the first time I really saw that raw raw that
hip hop was going through at the time, right, And
(28:27):
then I saw the crowds to see part and I'm like,
who the hell is that walking through the crowd and
it was like JD and the Brat and it was
just like and to see him get up on stage
and do ain't no nigga, it just it was just
it was just like a magical moment for me because
I just that was one of the albums that really
(28:49):
touched me most in my whole life, that Reasonable Doubt
album for so many reasons.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
Yeah, So that moment at Roseland And You've been hip
hop through the fifty years and hip hop has backlash
down forty percent with the sales. People were talking, you know,
you talked about the women in rap, the best and
worst things about hip hop in your opinion.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The best thing in hip hop is it doesn't it.
It has fed a lot of people. Man, it has
fed a lot of people. The worst part about it
is the same people are in charge. Say that again,
marinate on that, Say that again. We're gonna lead that
(29:32):
right way right okay.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
And the last one, if you could bring back any
hip hop artists, and in this last fifty years that
we lost, we've lost a lot of them. If you
could bring back two to three of them, who would
you bring back?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
And why?
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I would bring back Pac?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Because I think Pac had the best balance of anybody.
Pac was the one who obviously knew black civil rights
and cultures so much, and he and he rapped about
it and from Brenda's had has a Baby to Dear
Mama to whatever. He always had a message. But he
was still gangster that he that he wanted to be.
I think he would have been an incredible actor now
(30:12):
and we'd have been debating who's better him or Denzel.
I really think we lost like Biggie way too early.
You know what, I mean, I just I just think
he had so much more to give. He wasn't even
in like in his spot yet.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, that I would. I would say.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Those two definitely. I appreciate your time. Thank you to
sit at this table. Thank you again.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
This is my brother franks Sky. As you all know, Frank,
give everybody your social media handles before we get out
of here.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's a at Frankski. That's it at Frankski.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Story Time with Legendary Jerry. I am Jerry Clark a
k a. The Legendary Jerry. New face frank Ski. We
signing out. Thank you for tuning in, Thank you for
sha you. Story Time with the Legendary Jerry's hosted by me,
the one and Only Jerry Clark. Music has been provided
(31:14):
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to your favorite shows.
And what you're talking about Doodoo Brown producing, there's another
record that has come back since that you produce There's
some Horrors in this Ouse, right, and now look at
that because what yeard you produce that record?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Uh, same year's Doodoo Brown. So I used to I
used to put out first. The thing that I did
first was I used to put out this thing called
club Tracks, and basically I would take these loops of
these songs and I was giving DJs a bridge, right,
So back then, you know you just had to be
(00:54):
fast withed or mixed with it or throw shit in.
I was like, but in Baltimore they were, they were mixers,
Baltimore DJ's mix and I gave them bridges with these songs.
So on one of the club Tracks album, I put
There's some Horrors in the House on the album, and
I put a whole bunch of experimental, just one off
songs that became huge. Miss Tony Horrores in the House,
(01:19):
a lot of shit on on them them.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Somebody not in your fucking wildest dreams that you think
they haven't many years later that that song would be
remade in the sense with Megan the Stallion, Cardi B
and Hell over a billion streams.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, I mean hit, that's some ship. Frank, listen, billion
fucking streams man.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I tell young people all the time, don't sell
your publishing boy thirty years because your motherfucking ate now
thirty years you ate.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Frank, you know what, you know what it is?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hey, y'all, Frank, hey by, Hey, listen, let me tell
you something, because what.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Percentage of that song do you all? Cardi Megan?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't want to say.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Man, motherfucker, this is story time with less day year.
He own part of it. So that's why I said
you eat.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, So that's why you smile. I'm not smiling because
this is the serious part of this sh what's that?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Listen?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
When when I put out Doodo Brown and and and
this is gonna be the teaching moment for you, Okay,
when I put out Doodoo Brown back, then you had
to take your You make the record. You they they
you send it to a mastering plant, a mastering place, right,
(02:33):
the mastering place masters it. You have to pay for that,
and then the master sends it to the record pressing
plant the vinyl to press up the vinyl. Right, the
vinyl will cost you let's say it's a dollar a record.
It's a little bit more, but a dollar a record. Okay,
you're gonna get back when they sell that record in
the store. You're gonna get back two dollars. Because here's
(02:57):
what happens. I I the first time I'm gonna put
Doodo Brown out. I call Becky at Liaison Records. Right,
Becky said, I'm gonna need ten thousand records. Well, how
much is that gonna cost me? They're gonna call it.
They're gonna cost you ten thousand dollars to make ten
thousand records. Follow the math, everybody. I get ten thousand
records sent in for that Friday, they go in the
(03:18):
record stores in Baltimore, sells out before eleven o'clock. So
now I got to wait another week to put records
in the store. This time she wanted twenty thousand records,
so it costs twenty thousand dollars. Right, So now I'm
out thirty thousand dollars in nineteen ninety two. I don't
have no more money. The twenty thousand records sell out
(03:41):
again Friday afternoon. That Friday, if premier on WPGC in Washington, DC, boom.
The next order was fifty thousand records, which means I
need fifty thousand dollars. The part I didn't tell you.
The record stores have ninety days to pay the distributor,
(04:01):
and the distributor has ninety days from when they get
the money to pay you. So you may be one
hundred and eighty days before you get any money back.
That means a half a year. So now I'm out
thirty thousand dollars and it may be a half a
year before I get any money back. So now I
got to put out another twenty five thousand.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I don't have it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I go to the bank. I had a relationship at
the bank. The banker happened to be black, and he
was like, i'll give it to you. Now, how much
money was this twenty five thousand. I send it to
the pressing plan press cop right. So now I'm fifty
five thousand dollars in. It sells out that weekend. The
(04:41):
next week I get the call from my brother in
Miami and it wins on Power ninety six.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The next order was one hundred thousand records.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
They they extend you a line of credit.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Who's going to extend a line of the pressing plant.
No back then.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Now I'm only three weeks in because I don't have
no tra record. But the thing is they didn't. They
didn't because a lot of people were ordering a lot
of records, and there's a lot of records sitting in
people's garages this day. That us right, Okay, So at
that point I'm stuck. The majors are like, oh, we're
gonna give it a couple more weeks, so nobody would
(05:18):
sign me. I went to Luke, he didn't want it.
I went everywhere. Nobody wanted the fucking record. And then
my guy who was on the record with me, Stanley.
His uncle was named Joey Bonner. Joey Bonner was a
big record guy. He said, we're gonna, we're gonna take
you over to this label Warlock. That was Adam Levy.
(05:40):
Adam Levy was the son of mister Levy in the
book The Hit Men. Okay, he said, we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're gonna sign to you. We're gonna sign you. Gave
me a little advance, he said, but we need an album.
Bro got on a plane, went to Cincinnati to their
studio and did an album in two days. They put
(06:01):
the album out. I never saw another dime. I never
saw another dime on millions of records being sold. So
I did wares in the house they put it out.
I never saw a dime. So when you talk about
Cardi B did this record, and I ate No. Cardi
(06:22):
B did the record and I got paid back because
God said, whatever they take from you, I'm going to
repay you ten times. And that's how God works. As
long as you stay faithful.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Amen, I can woo amen of that, bro.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Then that's how that happened.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And Warlike Records never cut you one fucking check.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Nope, they cut me your first advance and that was it,
and that was it.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Never saw any more money. But the twenty fifth anniversary
of Frank Ski's coming out for all the DJs out there,
just wanted to let you know.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And you've been from a DJ perspective, being on the air,
being radio stations, like I said, from Baltimore to Atlanta,
like I said at the beginning Radio Hall of Famer,
what one thing have you noticed not noticed but one?
What is one main difference when you first got in
(07:16):
radio to now because you're still relevant. You still got
one of the top shows here in Atlanta, top two
shows DC and Atlanta. And you've been relevant for so long.
But what's one major thing or one thing that you've
you've noticed different years when you first got in radio
to now.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
These new DJs don't do no service. They don't serve nobody.
They don't give back. Yeah, they do a turkey giveaway nigga.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Everybody does that.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Street niggas do that. Yeah, don't do that. Don't mean nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, but how much are you really giving back? Like,
how much are you really like volunteering hours like weekly,
going to schools, eating the kids, taking mentees, feeding the homeless.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Taking kids to the Galapagos Island?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
How much are you serving? Like when I got in radio,
that was part of what we did. Remember the black
radio station was the heartbeat of the coming you have
to do everything beat. So these kids that are getting
in today don't know the service part. So because they
don't know the service part, they never really get ingrained.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
In the community.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
They never really get to be at Greg Street, they
never get to be a Ryan Cameron, those are from Atlanta.
They never get to be a big tater because they
don't they haven't put in the grind to give back.
There's some dope people out there, and I hear them
all the time. Man, there's a lot of people. I
love them on the radio. But you gotta give back, man,
you gotta you gotta serve the people and give back, Like,
(08:50):
what are you doing to give back?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And I've watched you and you just named two other
close friends of mine, Gregg Street and Ryan Cameron. I
watched all three of y'all give selfish like you. I'm
told that I could call you or call And it's
funny because I was having this conversation with somebody recently
about Greg Street, who's coming on the show as well,
and they was like, how is he still able to
(09:13):
connect with with these kids? And I said, man, you
can name a high school, middle school, Greg can name
a pe teacher there. He can name an assistant principal,
the prince of principal. He got everybody's number, everybody. He
doesn't take everybody fishing. Yeah, Like that's how he's been
able to stay connection and stay relevant. And it goes
into what you said. Guys like you, Ryan, Frank Tig, y'all,
(09:35):
y'all are here, y'all really in the community.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I talked to Tigger.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I talked to Tigger a couple of days ago when
Magic Johnson was here and and I just congratulated him
on the be et thing and everything. And I said,
you know, I said, you you've given so much, you
know what I mean? And I said, I said, I
don't know if b I know, b Et has recognized you.
But really, when Bob Johnson's so e T.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
You should have got a piece.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That should have been a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Everybody who was on that air should have got a
little piece, even if it was one percent or half
a percent about it was of course, of course to
b T.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
That was it, that that's made? That may be e T.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Donn Simpson, Donnie Simson, what was? But you know what
what what what he Sherry Carter?
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And and what what Tigger said was he said, he said,
do you know how many of my interns I'm running businesses?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I said, me too, Wow, I said me too.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I said, I'll never be broke because I got so
many interns out there running ship right now, one of
them would give me a job.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And that'll let you know that your hands have been
involved to really push and make sh it happen.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I was at the Magic Johnson thing. I'm not going
to say her name. She came up to me. She
told me her name, and she said, do you remember me?
I said absolutely, I remember. And she's running a major
aide your company right now. Major And I was like,
I didn't know she was doing that. And I said
what you been doing? And she told me.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So you know how she remembers me twelve years old?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I did that trip when she was twelve. I did
that trip to South Africa.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And I took my sons Franklin, Harrison and Blake to
South Africa with a bunch of listeners from V one
O three. I remember her father took her and all
her siblings because I was taking my kids.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
She said, I went to South Africa because of you.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Damn damn twelve years old man. And now she's now
she's a big executive running.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yes, of course, yeah, but it goes.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I can, I can. The list is vast. I got
off the Delta flight. I got off the Delta flight
coming coming back when I took Gezie fishing last weekend, right,
I get off the Delta flight.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
The Gate Agent is stairs.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Like frank'ske I said, yeah, brother, you know he was
like he said, I played in the first Youth Bowl.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I played for Ben Hill.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Damn what was that bout ninety nine nine? When was
the first youth bot two thousand?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, probably somewhere right there. I said, it's service, bro,
that service when you served, When you serve people, remember,
yes they do. God works in crazy ways. I'm gonna
tell you this real quick, just show you how God works.
I wanted to take my family to the to the
Georgia Mountains to an Airbnb, and you know, you hear
(12:30):
all these rumors like oh Airbn people won't rent you
if you're black, and all this other stuff. Right, So
I found this like nice little house up there, and
I wanted to go fishing, and it just so happened
that this house has a trout lake on that on
the property.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
It's like a private lake.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So I hit the guy and I said, I really
want to bring my wife and my four year old
daughter just to spend the weekend. And I signed it.
Frank Ski Rodriguez, white guy hits me back. He said, man,
do you know how many times your inspirational vitamins saved
my life. Whoa God, whoa Whoa. I met him and
(13:14):
he said, I listened to your inspirational vitamin. And I
heard Bishop Eddie Long one day and I had to
go to the church white God went to all black
new birth, met his wife, she black, They got kids.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Their house.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Well, he said that saved his life.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Saved his life.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I do the inspirational vitamin because God wants me to
do it. It's part of service. I don't know who
it's going to affect. Sometimes it affects me.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Hey man, That's why we got Frank Ski on this show,
because this type brother he is.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Before we get out of here, it off Frank a
couple of things before I bring new face in.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Before you bring new face in, I'm gonna tell you
one story, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Because I really respect your music, your music acumen, and
just your whole cachet. One producer, one songwriter. Who you're
picking to do your album?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
One producer and one songwriter?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
H m hmmm.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
What kind of album am I doing?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Whatever album you want? Frank Stott doing a rap album,
Let's we gonna keep it. You're doing a rap album
right now, Pete Rock, Wow, that's your producer.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That's my producer because he loves music.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And you're doing an R and B album.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
What songwriter Neil.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Mhmm. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Interesting, I can't say R Kelly.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So so it's so R Kelly and Neo NEI okay,
Neil writes from his heart.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
All right, So I want to tell you this story
before my face comes in ahead, all right, I just
want to say this. And I heard Red Alert mentioned
this on a podcast, and he was the first person
that I really heard publicly say this on a major podcast.
So one of the pivotal moments in hip hop was
(15:23):
a rap battle at Harlem World between Kolmo D and
the rapper Busy Bee. That was the first rap battle
that ever went down.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
The rap battle happened at an event called the Harlem
World DJ Convention right u MC Convention, and it was
a contest YEP eighty two. It was a contest.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I was in New York.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
My uncle was one of the owners of Harlem World,
and I told my uncle, I said, I'm gonna getting
this rap contest. I'm on on stage. One of the
other people in the in the amateur division, Dougie D
who's Dougie Fresh me Frank Ski get up there, and
I won the amateur division.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Over Dougie Fresh.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yes, okay, but not anymore. Dougie Fresh will blow me.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Out the water.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And back then you won on age.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
But we were just we just kids.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah. The funny thing is when I got on stage,
I mentioned that I had come up from Florida and
I'm on this stage and I can play it for you.
And I said, I just came here to let you
know that the South can do this too.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
So before before Andre three thousand, Frank, we're gonna need
that audio. Look, look, Frank, before Andre three thousand got
up in the Source Awards, what was that ninety five?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'll play it for you, but said.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
The South got something to motherfucker say. That's right, Hey man,
this is my brother right here. Man, this dude right here.
We we we could talk for hours and hours a
put your philanthropy. Yeah, I mean this this guy right here,
I said, And I said at the beginning to show
the reason I want to have him on is because
people need to know absolutely that, they need to know
what he's done and what you know and your contributions. Frank,
(17:21):
and I just want to tell you Man, you know
I'm not going you know, on a personal level the
things you've done for me. Man, Hey boy, we could,
like I said, we could talk music because you are
one of the few casts that have seen it from
like I say, give me not even with that story
of you being Dougie Fresh in the Harlem world, like
you've seen it from from New York to Baltimore to
(17:44):
the a You've been there, man, And I just want
to tell you, boy, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'm gonna bring my brother New Face in and let
me tell you something what New Face is about to
show you. Boy, I'm scared. Let me let me tell
you all. New Face of course, for those who watch
the show every week, he's the hip hop hoarder, and
he's really his contributions to the culture unmatched.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And he's coming in right now because he has something special.
Uh okay, he's got a couple of questions probably for
you too.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Come on New.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Face story time with Legend Jerry.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Of course every week we have our special special segment
with my brother. Uh, mister new Face was there? New
Face the hip hop hoarder, he's the hip hop historian.
There's so many adjectives. I've got use Frank Sky, but
legis know for new face to be here, and he's
got some he got some surprise. I don't know what
he might pull he gonna pull out some. But I
(18:55):
want to introduce my brother new face.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
He got Hey man, thank you man. At first of all, like,
I'm really like honored to be in this position. Man,
you two are brothers that I'm really from the outside
looking in, like I look to for support, Like you
were one of them people that you spoke about, the
brother with the inspiration of vitamin How you inspired them.
You know, I had children at the time, and so
(19:17):
you on the radio when I'm taking their daughters to school.
You were that station that I turned to when I
was pumping the gas and I knew it was okay
if they were listening. You were in their arms while
I went in the store. You know, I knew they
were safe with you. The things you were doing before
people were even waking up. That was the inspiration to me.
And one of the things I wanted to just say
personally that the adversities you went through, you were that
(19:39):
person that I looked to where something happened, maybe a
position changed or a different station or a different disc
and your bounce back was just phenomenal. Brother, Like I
always seen, oh you know, you know, even before social
media and the streets, what you heard, what happened to
Frankin and every time you bounce back, And I just
wanted to personally say always looked at that as a
(20:01):
reflection and motivation. And as far as the children, me
and Jerry Clark talk about our children and how proud
he is. I want to just say, how proud you
are Franklin, Like I be with Gez and like it really,
you know, and I know Chris, I know Gez, but
I'm with him when I see Franklin. Yeah, I really
go to him and I'm just like it's crazy. So
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one I wanted to say, one, how proud you are
of him? And how did that interaction, how did you
interact with that, and how did that come into fold
with that position for Franklin.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know, Franklin has never wanted to be a musician
or anything. He just wanted to be on the business
side of it. He thinks like a businessman, and he
went to school at LSU and he thought he was
going to come out and work for Kevin lows, and
you know, we were talking about it, and he did everything.
(20:53):
I mean, he started playing golf just because he was
going to come out and have this position. And right
around that time, Jay hit me and was like, what
do you think if I interview Franklin? And I was like, dope,
go right ahead. So I had to step back, and
he was like I just I said, look, listen, if
it don't work, it don't mean nothing between me and you.
(21:14):
It's you got to feel comfortable, you know. So I
make sure that I keep a balance between his relationship
with with Jez and what he's doing, and then me
and Jeez has a separate relationship.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
We don't even talk about.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It because because you know, Franklin has to he has
to take the hits in the in the in the
knockdowns and and and the corrections and and he's learning.
But he's going to be a great music executive. And
I'm proud of that because I want to make sure
when I'm not here, there's somebody keeping the legacy alive.
(21:50):
And when you are a parent and you have a
child that kind of follows in the industry that you're in,
it really means a lot. I have an inspirational vitamin
book coming out, and I got a whole chapter about
that that as black people, we need to be more
determined in making sure our kids follow what we do
because we've opened up a lot of doors. So if
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you Jerry Clark, and you open up all these doors
for other people, why can't you open up the doors
for your own kids and keep the legacy alive.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
And the problem is we.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Keep changing what we do from generation and we never
really build real wealth because we don't have nothing that
we can say. This business been around for one hundred years,
and the only way we're going to do that is
if our kids keep following what we do. So if
you're a doctor, you need to have doctor kids, just
like white woken Jewish people. If you in the music,
your kids need to do something with music. They can
(22:41):
be a musical lawyer, you know, anything they want to do.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
This should be related.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
To what because we've opened up too many doors. So
I'm proud that he's in that place. He's getting his
knocks though it ain't easy.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
It ain't He's.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Like, I'm working all these hours, dad, Oh my god,
I've gotten three hours leap.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I was like, boy, at least you getting paid ship
we was doing it wasn't getting paid.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
So again that's as a fire. It's great to see
as well.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
And like Jerry said, I did bring something out and
honestly I had this at at the house.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
But I'm sending it.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
You know, I'm decorating the boat for the Rock the
Bells cruise. So I had to cassette single.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Oh my god, this right.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
There it is camera one right.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Yeah, So I didn't have that physically, but I do
have that one.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
But what I did was this old magazine.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
When I was at ear Wax Records, I would get
the magazines right and there was in the back of it.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I showed Dallas this. It was this situation. That's this
photo here. Wow.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
And can you let the list look how you had
a full head looked like damn texturizing his head.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Look at the waves and ship.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Wow. You remember that moment with the Mayor of Atlanta, right, the.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Mayor Mayor Bill Campbell.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
And me and Jerry are just marveling over like how
many people we lost?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
This right on there? If you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
From from Jim Crow.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
This is crazy, man, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
And lastly, the evolution recently, I was at the Tabernacle
and Gucci Man brought out t I. I know you're
in radio and you've been with these three gentlemen right here,
So what I.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Brought these out? And if you could just speak to
the evolution of these.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Gentlemen from your perspective and from radio personally and trap
music as a whole, you know it.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
It really humbles me to see these three artists because
I because I know all three of them. I was
very close to to Jiz and and when Jez came out,
he came to one of my wine tastings at my house,
and he always tells me. He said, man, when I
walked into your house and I saw you know, your
(24:59):
family and and all the people in the house that
he was raising money for kids, he said, this is
what I want in my life. And and that meant
a lot, you know, uh t I. When t I
was on house arrest, he called me to come to
his house and rap with him and just.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Hang out with him.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
When Gucci Man was in jail, he wrote me a
letter h from from jail, and I mean, it's like
you know, and and I think that it's not because
oh I'm your hangout buddy. Oh, I'm gonna come and
we're gonna turn up and whatever. It's not that, it's
like you have to be a person of a certain
(25:40):
moral character. When people are going through shit and they
need to talk to somebody, You're gonna be non judgmental
because I've been where they are. You're gonna be loving,
You're gonna give it to them straight, and you're gonna
let them know what it is. And I think that
to see all of them and where they've grown to,
(26:01):
I'm just like super proud of the culture because they
are proof positive that you can go from being crazy
and rambunctious in the street.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It's all about growth. Yeah, that's the key work.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
And speaking of being there for somebody personally, I remember
being at Jerry Clark's birthday party some years ago and
there was a story told that Jerry Clark needed letters
for the Judge of recommendations.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
If I believe, Yeah, yeah, I needed I needed a letter,
just a character letter, because I was about to I
was under federal investigation. I was about to go do
prison time, and I needed some character letter. So I
reached out to people that I considered to be friends, family,
and I'll never forget. My attorney hit me and was like,
(26:44):
hey man, he was like and it wasn't even an
I don't even think a day had passed, maybe two days,
and my attorney hit me and said, man, we already
got one letter. And I was like, oh cool, who
is it? He was like Frank Ski. He was like, man,
that you and all the stuff he was. All the
stuff you said about him is really true because this man,
he's a lot of people, some of their closest friends
(27:05):
and family never even come through as simple as it
is doing a character and his brother right here when
I needed him the most, he was there for me.
That's the type Caddy years and he's always been like that.
We watched our kids grow up and every everything. So
you know, that's why it was so important New Face
to have him more storytime of legends.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
I definitely wanted that show, that story to be told
on this platform. And lastly, these are some quick round questions.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Okay, real quick. You know hip hop turn fifty.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
You know recently, out of these fifty years, your your
personal favorite hip hop moment.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
My personal favorite hip hop moment of all time? It
would it would probably it would have to be. I
was invited to New York for Jay Z's Reasonable Doubt
album release at Roseland, and I remember I'm outside and
(28:05):
I couldn't get through the crowd and Mike Kaiser at
Deaf Jam at the time, Mike Kaiser was like, Ski
come through, and they pushed through and brought me in.
And I'm just like because I was I was living
at the time in Baltimore. And I walk in and
it's just like a sea of people and it was
the first time I really saw that raw raw that
hip hop was going through at the time, right, And
(28:27):
then I saw the crowds to see part and I'm like,
who the hell is that walking through the crowd and
it was like JD and the Brat and it was
just like and to see him get up on stage
and do ain't no nigga, it just it was just
it was just like a magical moment for me because
I just that was one of the albums that really
(28:49):
touched me most in my whole life, that Reasonable Doubt
album for so many reasons.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
Yeah, So that moment at Roseland And You've been hip
hop through the fifty years and hip hop has backlash
down forty percent with the sales. People were talking, you know,
you talked about the women in rap, the best and
worst things about hip hop in your opinion.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The best thing in hip hop is it doesn't it.
It has fed a lot of people. Man, it has
fed a lot of people. The worst part about it
is the same people are in charge. Say that again,
marinate on that, Say that again. We're gonna lead that
(29:32):
right way right okay.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
And the last one, if you could bring back any
hip hop artists, and in this last fifty years that
we lost, we've lost a lot of them. If you
could bring back two to three of them, who would
you bring back?
Speaker 5 (29:44):
And why?
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I would bring back Pac?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Because I think Pac had the best balance of anybody.
Pac was the one who obviously knew black civil rights
and cultures so much, and he and he rapped about
it and from Brenda's had has a Baby to Dear
Mama to whatever. He always had a message. But he
was still gangster that he that he wanted to be.
I think he would have been an incredible actor now
(30:12):
and we'd have been debating who's better him or Denzel.
I really think we lost like Biggie way too early.
You know what, I mean, I just I just think
he had so much more to give. He wasn't even
in like in his spot yet.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, that I would. I would say.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Those two definitely. I appreciate your time. Thank you to
sit at this table. Thank you again.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
This is my brother franks Sky. As you all know, Frank,
give everybody your social media handles before we get out
of here.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's a at Frankski. That's it at Frankski.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Story Time with Legendary Jerry. I am Jerry Clark a
k a. The Legendary Jerry. New face frank Ski. We
signing out. Thank you for tuning in, Thank you for
sha you. Story Time with the Legendary Jerry's hosted by me,
the one and Only Jerry Clark. Music has been provided
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