May 1, 2024 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
This week's episode, story Time with Legendary Jerry. I am
Jerry Clark akad Legendary Jerry. I have my brother new
face in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We are officially here. Man, you're ready for this one that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I don't know? New face. I don't know because let
me tell you something. I've been trying to get this
brother for a minute, man, and uh fuck it, we
just gonna jump right in. Man. We got one fourth,
one a quarter of the multi platinum.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Group multi platinum, my brother Q Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
What's up family? What's up with your mind? Man? Pleasure? Pleasure?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Man, I've been hearing so many great things. I'm just honest,
man that when you went through your whole rolodex of
people that's new you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
See he start He's like he started off with the
cap already, Parker, Like, here we go, yo, I'm so honest.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It wasn't even an alphabetical order, man. We went straight from
the a's to Q.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I love it. Yeah, man, No, man, it's my pleasure.
Like I said, we've been talking for a while, we've
been seeing each other for a while. We've been knowing
each other for a while, and I gotta I got
a lot of respect for you personally and professionally. Wow.
So I just thought it was only it was only
right for us to sit and have on that's some
conversation about this music, ship, man, because you've been around this,
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you've been in this game around it for a long time,
and you know where the bodies is buried. I mean,
New Face he was there, He knows what the bodies
is buried. Man. I mean, let's let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it so early. Let me jump right in. Man,
everybody know that. You know, of course y'all groove, how
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y'all started with being named after the club and all that.
What was that first ever? Mean? Like with Puff when
y'all met, I know it was probably one here or
wasn't in New York.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
The very first one was here in Atlanta and our
managers at the time, big shout out to k Wells,
they had a relationship with Puff. Now this is after
Dallas didn't want to sign us. Jermaine didn't sign us,
Ah the Face didn't sign us.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Rico Wade like nobody, and we wanted to be.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Down with Atlanta because you know, we wrapped Atlanta all day.
But Kay was like, yo, my man, Puff is coming
in town, and I want to set up like an
impromptu audition for him. Now, the crazy thing is, you
know how it is when you're really inundated with a
lot of things, but you want to make good on
something that you told your friend. And so we literally
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catch Puff coming out of the club and so he's like,
walk with me. So we're we are auditioning as he's
walking to his vehicle. But I mean, we seized the moment,
and obviously we sparked. We sparked enough attention in him
to want to have a second meeting. Now the second meeting,
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he came back to Atlanta and we had an official
audition at Doppler Studios. So that was when we really
was able to go deep in our bag and just
throw it at him. Everything was as forward, yeah, and
shout out to Faith Evans and Usher because.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
They were getting it done. They were at the audition.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Faith was there because you know, Faith was she was
writing a lot of the songs, and Puffy was executive
producing very first album and so he was with him
just all the time. And so after we auditioned, Faith
was like, Yo, you're crazy if you don't sign these boys.
And so That's why she's always been my sister.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Man. I love her to death. And so with all
these these bad Boy artists over the years coming back
saying that that Puff robbed them and they signed fucked
up deals, was that advery case, did you ever sit
back and be like, man, we signed that as a group,
we signed a fucked up deal.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So the short answer is yes. However, my perspective is
just a little different man. Like you know, I am
a glass half full guy, and I'm always trying my
best to extract the good out of it. Now, I
could sit and cry about the deal and then not
being favorable to me and my group members. However, I'm
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still grateful because of the opportunity he invested some time
into myself my group, and that's part of the reasons
why I'm even sitting in this chair today.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Because I because a lot of artists new face, they
forget about that ship. Oh no, they so and so
rob me. They fucked me out a deal. But if
it weren't for Puff putting his time and his money
and his cashet with bad Boy, yes, you wouldn't even
be here. So I like that whole Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Now, I will say this though, so I put that
over on the left side, but on the right side,
I go back to answering your question.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
The deal wasn't the best deal.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It wasn't favorable for me being the artist who was
going to put a lot of blood, sweat and tears
into the craft. But he did nothing, no different than
anybody else. Because at the time that was the standard
issuing contract. It just wasn't favorable for artists. And so
I always tell artists a know the game, know the business,
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and if you decide to move forward with signing the deal,
just know what you're signing, man, and just be a
man about it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And fortunately for us.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
We were able to work through that first contract which
wasn't the best, but we proved our so when it
got time to renegotiate, we had some value and so
we were able to then get our worth and then more.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, y'all, did y'all make some money on the my
first two albums? We did have. We did money on
our album.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Well, not necessarily the album sales, but one thing I
will say about Courtney and Kevin Man, they kept us
on the road and so we were able to just
get money from the shows, and that was money that
the record deal could not take.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
But here's the key, tho, here's the key.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
What we didn't make from the record sales, we made
from royalties because we were songwriters and producers and.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
From day one that's not just artists.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Not knowing that.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
When we first got into the game, like nobody set
us down and said, hey, write your own stuff, produce
your own music. We were just so connected. We were
just so connected to what we wanted to sound like.
We were just writing and producing our own stuff anyway.
So all the hiss that you've heard ever heard of
one twelve, nine out of ten times them ourselves. And
so what we didn't get from our record deal in
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our contract, we got from our shows, and we got
from the fact that we were songwriters and so we
had ownership.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
And new phase. Before you jump in, I know you
got a question. I just want to ask this that's
been all over the media the last few months about
Puff Diddy giving back publishing to all his artists. Yeah, now,
qugh Parker one twelve, it's air. You just said, you
you know, you wrote a lot of stuff on your albums.
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How did that affect you? How does that How does
that with Puff giving back your publisher. What does that
do for you?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So I want to be clear, he never had all
of my publishing. So let me look at the camera
right now and say this one. He never he he
never had all of my publishing.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Uh, when you are an investor, you have to protect
your investment, of course. And so if I put you
on one could say I'm entitled to something because I'm
giving you the opportunity. I'm giving you instances where you
can elevate who you are as a songwriter. And so
I'm able to demand what I can demand now as
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a songwriter because I was in a publishing deal with
Puffy and so with him being the most sought after
producer during that time, everybody that came to him for
for a song, we was writing it.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So was that forty percent that he took of mind
worth the opportunities I'm gonna say to me as a
business I I'm gonna say absolutely, because when you come
in my house and see all them plaques on my wall,
it's because of the opportunities.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That provided he provided.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Now, the portion that he had, he just reassigned it
back to me, and so the portion that I've had
for all these years I made a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You've been eating that, yeah, I've been even very eating it.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, and so now getting now I got one hundred percent,
and so for me, that's more of a legacy play
that that that difference in the percentage now my grandchildren's
children's and children absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Nah, I'm not. I'm not the one that's that's gonna
say right off for come, you ain't selling, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I'm not selling. I've had many opportunities, but I'm not.
I'm not selling.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And then you got you know, and I take it
back to like I remember, you guys were forte.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I don't want to second. And I'm gonna tell you
why I'm not selling. I wonder why I'm gonna tell
you why I'm not selling. I I I look at
it this way. I've had conversations with my attorneys, with
my advisors, and everybody that means something to me. Who
can who can impart some financial wisdom into my intimate.
(09:51):
I've grown accustomed man to the two times a year
when I get up my royalty statements. I know when
it's coming. I can kind of see what the amount
is gonna be. And so I'm okay with just that lifestyle.
I'm not chasing the fame the money like I'm not
doing it anymore. And the best advice that I could
give to anybody who is considering selling your catalog is
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to sit down with a financial advisor. Sit down with
somebody who can actually help you allocate what you're gonna
do with that money, because I'm telling you want what
he's saying and that money is gone, that's it, out
of here. And I know many of individuals who have
sold and didn't have their ducks in the row and.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Look back and be like, shit, why why did I
do it?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And when they do it online, everybody's apart. And I
always sold it. You got these millions.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But if you don't do that groundwork, all your stuff
in order?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Man, And I remember you guys originally went by the
name of Forte.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Is that own route too? Excellence?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And now how true is this?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Shout out to Berney Seals aka Bear. He told him
there was a possibility that in the beginning it was
two members of Jagged Edge and two members of One
twelve or Forte at the time, that could have potentially
been a group that there was You guys.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Were kind of working hand in hand early on that
before everybody got established that truth to.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
The reason why Richard Wingo from Jagged Edge is one
of my best friends, shout out too. I love you man,
that's my heart. Man, I love that dude. But prior
to me joining one twelve, because I was the last
member to join what the World Know as One twelve,
Wingo was the last member to join what the World
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Knows as Jagget. But had Wingo not told Courtney to
come see Forte at a talent show, Courtney would have
never discovered One twelve to take to Kevin, to take
to Dallas, to take to Tim and Bob. So that
now it eventually get to puff. So all of this
is because of rich at history. But then I'm gonna
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take it a step further. Prior to me joining one
twelve and him Jacket Edge, Wingo and I was in
a group together.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It was myself, Wingo, my one of my current attorneys,
Chuck Douglas, and.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
One other member. We were in a group.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It didn't last but a couple of months, but uh,
he and I was in a group once. Your Wingo
and I we lived together. Man. When I bought my
first house. He came to live with me, like, that's
that's my guy. And a lot of a lot of
things that have happened in my life is because of Wingo.
I met my wife because of Wingo.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Wow. So so we got we one degree of separation
from not heavy, A one twelve and a jagged as
well we know right now absolutely one little small.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And ironically that was actually the verses, you know, and
that's what everybody kind of put together, the jacketed verse
one twelve. And would you have an opportunity to kind
of redo that as well? Because I remember you guys,
weren't you know, as a collective a part of that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Would you want to get into the reason and why?
And would you want to do it do over or
with Jack?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Dad?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well, first of all, I'm an open book. As I
told you how you hit. Absolutely, I will say, whenever
there are similarities and whenever there are greatness in the similarities,
one can't help but try to pit the two against
each other as as competitive competition. And so imagine what
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it was like for me with Wingo being my best
friend and us having rival groups, you know, on in
front of the camera.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I got to be like that now. I was one twelve.
At one point it was like some words going back
and forth, like it was a real life absolutely square
one night. We didn't necessarily square it up, but I
mean it turned into some street shit.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Our thing was always, man, you know, we're R and
B dudes. We're not trying to fight. Man, Let's just
settle it on stage, you know, don't come behind us.
And they'll say, don't come.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Behind because not because because New Face, like all the
radio stations ran with it. It's one twelve versus jacket,
one twelve versus jacket. And I gotta say, for a minute,
I thought it was like it was gonna turn into
some real life some R and B reminded me.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It reminded me of g Z and Gucci, how like
they wanted the consumers to pick one.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I was a fan of both, and Gucci one to it.
I just fuck with both. But like you said, the
radio and the media ran with one, like the media
ram which one are you?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And did that Did I put a strain on you
on Wingos relationship? Absolutely not, Okay, no, absolutely not, because
the twins from Jagged is they from the east Side.
From the east Side, you and Wingo from the South Side, huh,
and other members of One twelve. We're part of town,
they are.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
We are from the Cleveland Avenue or South Side, Yeah
we are.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
We grew up in that area.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
But man, it was It's just one of those things
where I'm first and foremost I'm a music lover.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Period. When I'm just by myself, man, I'm rocking jagged. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Like some of my favorite R and B songs are
songs of theirs. I love Drew Hill, I love Black Street,
I love Next. I never looked at it as competition
because they were great for what they did and they
are not worth They are great for who they are
and what they do, and to be honest with you,
they corner a market in R and B from a
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group standpoint that we don't. We cover an area that
they don't and so does. So it was always room
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Did you did you think just vocalists for vocalists again,
Mino and Mano, that y'all all saying, now you know that,
I was like, Man, what the fuck I mean? Listen?
I also vocalists for vocalists. One twelve y'all, y'all, y'all
got what anybody guess anybody.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Anybody, No, No, Pounderful Pound, Mono and Mono, Yeah, vocals,
these can't see one twelve period. And I say that
with love because I love all of them, but pounderful
Pound vocally, Yeah, nobody ask.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You is there one song by any of those groups,
even Jagget is that you heard came out and was like, damn,
I wish we had.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That one absolutely.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
One of my favorite Jagget Edge records is gotta be
Oh my man, it's it's so funny. Sometimes Wingo and
I do shows together, like we'll we'll, we'll create an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
For he myself r L.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
One of the group members from other groups, will we'll
do some shows together, and what kind of interchange each
other songs?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Man?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I loved One twelve and Jagged did a tour together.
It was called the one twelve Jagget Experience. Remember that,
and we changed on stage where we sang one of
these songs. They sang one of our songs. Man, I'm
a fan of rough ends like my day from back
in the.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Day, another military line of group.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
If there would be no one twelve, if it wasn't
for silk, like I give silk props because we sang
some silk songs when we auditioned for.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Puff get the Deal.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
To get the deal, we sang Jodasy boys and men,
all of them. So, man, I'm fans of all of
those guys.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So cute. With all that being said, man, let's jump
into it. Sure, one twelve man, there's always three sides
their restore. Absolutely, you want to say, what the fuck
going on? Man? Why y'all can't? What's up? Man? We
just said that, y'all went out one twelve jagget edge
of tour, y'all interchanging song, Well we got it. What
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can we do to get that back? Popping? Man? Because
y'all from the media, you hear it seems like the
beef is like I ain't gonna say irreparable, but it's
it's deep. It's very deep. I will I will say that.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
However, it's not deep enough that it still can't be healed.
If I got a deep gash in my arm, it
can still be here. It still may leave a scar there,
but I can still eventually have full mobility and functionality
of that particular limb. However, with the one twelve situation,
there are some some some some deep concerns. Uh, And
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I think, honestly, man, the the biggest thing would would
be just getting us in a room and so the
powers that be, the powers that have the power to
influence group members. I would just encourage you all. I'm
and I'm looking in the camera. I would say to everybody,
if you are connected to any member of the group,
have a conversation about us getting together and sitting down,
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because anything can be talked through, especially as men. Yeah,
we can fight, crawl, all cry and all of that.
The important thing is just getting out what needs to
get out. Eventually it'll land where it needs to land.
And I believe until we're until we the four of
us are able to do that, it'll allow the media
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because even the promoters play a part of it too.
So the promoters are still hiring the version of one
twelve that's out there.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So that makes them.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
How many versions is going out? It's just one and
you're not in that version. No, I'm not in that version.
The version that's out now is just Mike and Slam.
And to be honest with you, I don't really fault
them for that either, because they had to do what
they had to do. The first you know one of
the greatest laws is the law of preservation. So I
got to protect myself at all costs.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
From a legal standpoint. I mean, I don't know how
it works because I know the temptations at one point,
I know that's a lot older. But they even when
they do their reviews up until recently, it'll be an
old member from the original group and another How does
that work? Not I'm really not interested in that. Man.
You know I've done a lot. You don't want to
go out with your own version one twelve.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Now, I've done a lot of work, man, with just
building the Q Parker brand, and so I can. I
can go and just stand alone as Q Parker. Now
people will understand that whenever they do book a Q Parker,
I can't help but also give you parts of my
history too, which is one twelve, and so I can.
I can still do all this, all of that too.
But ultimately I do wish, and I'm intentional about my words.
(20:25):
I do wish for a reconcile.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I do hope because I saw you on i G
not long ago, and you I think it was after
somebody passed past. You were sincere by that one absolute
there was no cap shiited one. No, you know you
was like really you was like, hey, man, let's let's
get this ship right man to my members and there and.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I'm gonna say I'm yeah, I'm gonna stay it on
your podcast too, say man, call me, call me, Slim
might call me.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Y'all hear this man, this man, let's get one man,
come on one twelve. Let's let's whatever we got. What
was the original is it? It's usually two things, Yeah,
pus seal money man the ladder. Okay, yeah, the latter
it was. It was it was. It was the rumors
were that that somebody was stealing money from other members.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Like how a lot of financial discrepancies, I'll just put
it there.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But with accountants, attorneys, people, managers, people.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
That were involved in the control of the dispersing of
the money.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It was just some some lack of integrity there. Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
And because legally I can't necessarily name because we are
in illegal litigation currently, but I would just say that
the integrity in the financial aspects of it, which is
what caused me to step aside, because I can't work
with anybody man when I can't see and trust. You know,
we were all I had working.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Hard, so you try picking up the phone call them
dudes like, man, let's just nobody else. Let's go sit down. Yeah,
I take Slim, Mike, Mike nothing, no crawl back, no, no.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
So again every time I every opportunity I have, I
will say to them, Mike, Slim, the people that's in
charge of how they move promoters out here. Man, if
y'all really want one twelve to reconcile, push the buttons
to get those guys to set up as we can
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get this done.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So with the versus, was there an option for you
to join or where you guys kind of separated at
that point.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
We were already kind of The separation happened at the
conclusion of the one twelve Jacket Edge Experience tour, which
was twenty eighteen. So it's been five years since I
and Deran has been.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And y'all ain't bumping into each other out in about
in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Nothing that's weird, nah, because I do a lot of
moving around and I've never nah, I've yet to.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
What that's gonna be. Like, y'all you bumped into them,
like you said you said earlier, are being the union
about to be out here?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Swinging on them. I'm too smooth for any of that.
We're too smooth for any of that. But it would
definitely be hey, and and to be honest, let me
just be honest first and foremost. They my brothers. I
got nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I love literally.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I love Michael Keith, I love you, Bro, Marvin Slim Skendrick,
I love you man. So if I was to see
them out, it would be all love to understand that
some years man, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
All is going over some bread. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Accusations, yeah yeah, yeah, And if it wasn't true, let's
just sit down and come to that it's not true
or it's not accurate. But don't but don't just dismiss
when I bring to the table. Hey, I think something
is a little left me mentioning it is worth us
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at least having a conversation, having some dialogue because I
think and I wasn't granted that, which is why I.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And being optimistic like him.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
You look at like what Birdman situation with Wayne bg Juvie.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
They had those discriptions.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
He too and had a conversation and now they're you know,
they still working together business. You know, like you said,
it's it's not you may forgive, but the wound is
still there. But I think moving forward for the culture
and definitely for the city of Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Man, definitely for the city. It's needed, man, it's needed.
It's time. It's been long enough.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, and there's still some chapters of the one twelfth
story that still need to be told, and it can
only happen with all four original members.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah. Yeah, speaking of chapter, let's talk about the chapter.
Let's go back to the nineties when a lot of
this bullshit was going on between Death Row And and
band Boy Man. Man, what was that The word was
y'all got pressed a couple of times going out to
l A rn B group. Yeah, but when you man,
you on the label bad Boy, you'renaet. Yeah, personator, they
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don't care if you were an assistant of publicist, they
pressing you.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
There were many times when we landed in l A.
We had to check in and I just put it
that way. Yeah, we had we had to check in, man,
we had extra security. So here's here's the story. So,
and y'all know this our first single, only you right
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shout out to No, No, Not toys, b I.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
G rest in peace, Big Man. Christopher Wallace goalie, absolutely right,
come right, new face to hip hop horder right here.
You see that he bring it, He bring Q, he
brings show that hold that up.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You said that's your first thing.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Look look how y'all y'all look on that. Y'allow likes
something in that box. Some in that box showing what
that was. I cut bad boy.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
The man Look at that Jay he like about ten
years old.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Legutive just finished doing my homework.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Dang, just finish homework.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
But yeah, man, so our first single, only You, and
we're starting a promo tour and the West Coast jumps
on the record.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So y'all had to go out there.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
We had no choice, Jerry, because as you know, as
y'all know, if we don't go where they're giving us love,
we run the risk of losing and a major a
major region like the West Coast, or if big population
influenced other regions, and so if the beatst planet, then
fifteen other stations gonna play it. Just so puff Puff
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put out a label wide mandate that no artists could
go to the West Coast, and so we were in
like between the rock and a hard place, because if
we don't go and chase our record, that maybe on
the shot that might be our only shot man, And
so we we all got together, all of them. They
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were showing us so much love, and so we decided
to go and support our record and chase our record.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I'm glad that we did, but I can't I can.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I can honestly tell you, man, that there was some
some scary moments of us going out there, police escorts
everywhere we go. If somebody even mentioned your sugar Nighter
is in the building, y'all, we shouldn't be oh me,
me me this move.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
We should should sugar. So during them years, it was
a lot of pressing. Man, sure it was. It was.
It was. And we're only eighteen, nineteen years old. Yeah,
y'all like damn the South like yeah, we're like hey, man, ship,
we were just trying to make some money our record.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I remember this one time we were in the mall
and on the West coast. I think we were like
in Seattle, Washington, Yeah, Tacoma, and our thing was we'd
land into the into the market, check into the hotel,
go to the mall, buy some whatever, sneakers or whatever,
and try to meet some girls to invite them to
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the show that night. With flyers or whatever like that
was our normal every time we go in the city.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
This is this time. We go to the.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Mall and a couple of girls start following us. That's
not normal. So one turns into three, turns into ten thirty.
Next thing you know, we got like twenty thirty girls
or something.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Just like shit, just shine, we go here we go.
So we do. But then some dudes started joining the group.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Man, it got to the point where it was about
one hundred people just in our little train, and they
cornered us man in the food court. And this is
when I realized just how the media, how stuff just spread.
You ever seen man like anger in the eyes of
somebody like.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And it's a scary feeling too, Oh.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
My god, to see anger in someone's eyes, like there's
nothing they won't do if they can only get their
hands on you. I just remember being pent up in
the food court. They had the mall security to barricade
us in. And I remember nineteen and twenty year olds
as close as I am to you, like west Side,
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and I mean, like to just see it in their eyes.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like they they're really killed. All because of the affiliation.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
East West Label Association.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Was y'all at the party when I'm Big got killed
that night in La.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
So we were not at the party, but we If
you go back and look at the Soul Train Awards,
which was the night of we had a show in
North Carolina the next day, and so immediately after we
did the Soul Train we got on the Red Eye
to fly back to ours. But I'll never forget. We
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had to present for a category. It was one twelve.
It was Big and Keith Sweat, and prior to going
from commercial break, Big just kept saying, some don't feel right, Man,
I gotta get the hell out of here. We go
out to do the presentation and he's kind of molding
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with his teeth, like, man, I gotta get the fuck
out of here, Like I gotta get.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Out of head d We leave land in North Carolina
and get the news and get the news. Yep, I
still have to do the show. Still had to do
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This week's episode, story Time with Legendary Jerry. I am
Jerry Clark akad Legendary Jerry. I have my brother new
face in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We are officially here. Man, you're ready for this one that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I don't know? New face. I don't know because let
me tell you something. I've been trying to get this
brother for a minute, man, and uh fuck it, we
just gonna jump right in. Man. We got one fourth,
one a quarter of the multi platinum.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Group multi platinum, my brother Q Parker.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
What's up family? What's up with your mind? Man? Pleasure? Pleasure?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Man, I've been hearing so many great things. I'm just honest,
man that when you went through your whole rolodex of
people that's new you.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
See he start He's like he started off with the
cap already, Parker, Like, here we go, yo, I'm so honest.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It wasn't even an alphabetical order, man. We went straight from
the a's to Q.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I love it. Yeah, man, No, man, it's my pleasure.
Like I said, we've been talking for a while, we've
been seeing each other for a while. We've been knowing
each other for a while, and I gotta I got
a lot of respect for you personally and professionally. Wow.
So I just thought it was only it was only
right for us to sit and have on that's some
conversation about this music, ship, man, because you've been around this,
(01:33):
you've been in this game around it for a long time,
and you know where the bodies is buried. I mean,
New Face he was there, He knows what the bodies
is buried. Man. I mean, let's let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it so early. Let me jump right in. Man,
everybody know that. You know, of course y'all groove, how
(01:54):
y'all started with being named after the club and all that.
What was that first ever? Mean? Like with Puff when
y'all met, I know it was probably one here or
wasn't in New York.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
The very first one was here in Atlanta and our
managers at the time, big shout out to k Wells,
they had a relationship with Puff. Now this is after
Dallas didn't want to sign us. Jermaine didn't sign us,
Ah the Face didn't sign us.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Rico Wade like nobody, and we wanted to be.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Down with Atlanta because you know, we wrapped Atlanta all day.
But Kay was like, yo, my man, Puff is coming
in town, and I want to set up like an
impromptu audition for him. Now, the crazy thing is, you
know how it is when you're really inundated with a
lot of things, but you want to make good on
something that you told your friend. And so we literally
(02:55):
catch Puff coming out of the club and so he's like,
walk with me. So we're we are auditioning as he's
walking to his vehicle. But I mean, we seized the moment,
and obviously we sparked. We sparked enough attention in him
to want to have a second meeting. Now the second meeting,
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he came back to Atlanta and we had an official
audition at Doppler Studios. So that was when we really
was able to go deep in our bag and just
throw it at him. Everything was as forward, yeah, and
shout out to Faith Evans and Usher because.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
They were getting it done. They were at the audition.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Faith was there because you know, Faith was she was
writing a lot of the songs, and Puffy was executive
producing very first album and so he was with him
just all the time. And so after we auditioned, Faith
was like, Yo, you're crazy if you don't sign these boys.
And so That's why she's always been my sister.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Man. I love her to death. And so with all
these these bad Boy artists over the years coming back
saying that that Puff robbed them and they signed fucked
up deals, was that advery case, did you ever sit
back and be like, man, we signed that as a group,
we signed a fucked up deal.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
So the short answer is yes. However, my perspective is
just a little different man. Like you know, I am
a glass half full guy, and I'm always trying my
best to extract the good out of it. Now, I
could sit and cry about the deal and then not
being favorable to me and my group members. However, I'm
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still grateful because of the opportunity he invested some time
into myself my group, and that's part of the reasons
why I'm even sitting in this chair today.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Because I because a lot of artists new face, they
forget about that ship. Oh no, they so and so
rob me. They fucked me out a deal. But if
it weren't for Puff putting his time and his money
and his cashet with bad Boy, yes, you wouldn't even
be here. So I like that whole Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Now, I will say this though, so I put that
over on the left side, but on the right side,
I go back to answering your question.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
The deal wasn't the best deal.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It wasn't favorable for me being the artist who was
going to put a lot of blood, sweat and tears
into the craft. But he did nothing, no different than
anybody else. Because at the time that was the standard
issuing contract. It just wasn't favorable for artists. And so
I always tell artists a know the game, know the business,
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and if you decide to move forward with signing the deal,
just know what you're signing, man, and just be a
man about it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And fortunately for us.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
We were able to work through that first contract which
wasn't the best, but we proved our so when it
got time to renegotiate, we had some value and so
we were able to then get our worth and then more.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, y'all, did y'all make some money on the my
first two albums? We did have. We did money on
our album.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Well, not necessarily the album sales, but one thing I
will say about Courtney and Kevin Man, they kept us
on the road and so we were able to just
get money from the shows, and that was money that
the record deal could not take.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
But here's the key, tho, here's the key.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
What we didn't make from the record sales, we made
from royalties because we were songwriters and producers and.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
From day one that's not just artists.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Not knowing that.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
When we first got into the game, like nobody set
us down and said, hey, write your own stuff, produce
your own music. We were just so connected. We were
just so connected to what we wanted to sound like.
We were just writing and producing our own stuff anyway.
So all the hiss that you've heard ever heard of
one twelve, nine out of ten times them ourselves. And
so what we didn't get from our record deal in
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our contract, we got from our shows, and we got
from the fact that we were songwriters and so we
had ownership.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
And new phase. Before you jump in, I know you
got a question. I just want to ask this that's
been all over the media the last few months about
Puff Diddy giving back publishing to all his artists. Yeah, now,
qugh Parker one twelve, it's air. You just said, you
you know, you wrote a lot of stuff on your albums.
(07:34):
How did that affect you? How does that How does
that with Puff giving back your publisher. What does that
do for you?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
So I want to be clear, he never had all
of my publishing. So let me look at the camera
right now and say this one. He never he he
never had all of my publishing.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Uh, when you are an investor, you have to protect
your investment, of course. And so if I put you
on one could say I'm entitled to something because I'm
giving you the opportunity. I'm giving you instances where you
can elevate who you are as a songwriter. And so
I'm able to demand what I can demand now as
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a songwriter because I was in a publishing deal with
Puffy and so with him being the most sought after
producer during that time, everybody that came to him for
for a song, we was writing it.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So was that forty percent that he took of mind
worth the opportunities I'm gonna say to me as a
business I I'm gonna say absolutely, because when you come
in my house and see all them plaques on my wall,
it's because of the opportunities.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That provided he provided.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Now, the portion that he had, he just reassigned it
back to me, and so the portion that I've had
for all these years I made a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You've been eating that, yeah, I've been even very eating it.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, and so now getting now I got one hundred percent,
and so for me, that's more of a legacy play
that that that difference in the percentage now my grandchildren's
children's and children absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Nah, I'm not. I'm not the one that's that's gonna
say right off for come, you ain't selling, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I'm not selling. I've had many opportunities, but I'm not.
I'm not selling.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And then you got you know, and I take it
back to like I remember, you guys were forte.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I don't want to second. And I'm gonna tell you
why I'm not selling. I wonder why I'm gonna tell
you why I'm not selling. I I I look at
it this way. I've had conversations with my attorneys, with
my advisors, and everybody that means something to me. Who
can who can impart some financial wisdom into my intimate.
(09:51):
I've grown accustomed man to the two times a year
when I get up my royalty statements. I know when
it's coming. I can kind of see what the amount
is gonna be. And so I'm okay with just that lifestyle.
I'm not chasing the fame the money like I'm not
doing it anymore. And the best advice that I could
give to anybody who is considering selling your catalog is
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to sit down with a financial advisor. Sit down with
somebody who can actually help you allocate what you're gonna
do with that money, because I'm telling you want what
he's saying and that money is gone, that's it, out
of here. And I know many of individuals who have
sold and didn't have their ducks in the row and.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Look back and be like, shit, why why did I
do it?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And when they do it online, everybody's apart. And I
always sold it. You got these millions.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But if you don't do that groundwork, all your stuff
in order?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Man, And I remember you guys originally went by the
name of Forte.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Is that own route too? Excellence?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And now how true is this?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Shout out to Berney Seals aka Bear. He told him
there was a possibility that in the beginning it was
two members of Jagged Edge and two members of One
twelve or Forte at the time, that could have potentially
been a group that there was You guys.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Were kind of working hand in hand early on that
before everybody got established that truth to.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
The reason why Richard Wingo from Jagged Edge is one
of my best friends, shout out too. I love you man,
that's my heart. Man, I love that dude. But prior
to me joining one twelve, because I was the last
member to join what the World Know as One twelve,
Wingo was the last member to join what the World
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Knows as Jagget. But had Wingo not told Courtney to
come see Forte at a talent show, Courtney would have
never discovered One twelve to take to Kevin, to take
to Dallas, to take to Tim and Bob. So that
now it eventually get to puff. So all of this
is because of rich at history. But then I'm gonna
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take it a step further. Prior to me joining one
twelve and him Jacket Edge, Wingo and I was in
a group together.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It was myself, Wingo, my one of my current attorneys,
Chuck Douglas, and.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
One other member. We were in a group.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It didn't last but a couple of months, but uh,
he and I was in a group once. Your Wingo
and I we lived together. Man. When I bought my
first house. He came to live with me, like, that's
that's my guy. And a lot of a lot of
things that have happened in my life is because of Wingo.
I met my wife because of Wingo.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Wow. So so we got we one degree of separation
from not heavy, A one twelve and a jagged as
well we know right now absolutely one little small.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And ironically that was actually the verses, you know, and
that's what everybody kind of put together, the jacketed verse
one twelve. And would you have an opportunity to kind
of redo that as well? Because I remember you guys,
weren't you know, as a collective a part of that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Would you want to get into the reason and why?
And would you want to do it do over or
with Jack?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Dad?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well, first of all, I'm an open book. As I
told you how you hit. Absolutely, I will say, whenever
there are similarities and whenever there are greatness in the similarities,
one can't help but try to pit the two against
each other as as competitive competition. And so imagine what
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it was like for me with Wingo being my best
friend and us having rival groups, you know, on in
front of the camera.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I got to be like that now. I was one twelve.
At one point it was like some words going back
and forth, like it was a real life absolutely square
one night. We didn't necessarily square it up, but I
mean it turned into some street shit.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Our thing was always, man, you know, we're R and
B dudes. We're not trying to fight. Man, Let's just
settle it on stage, you know, don't come behind us.
And they'll say, don't come.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Behind because not because because New Face, like all the
radio stations ran with it. It's one twelve versus jacket,
one twelve versus jacket. And I gotta say, for a minute,
I thought it was like it was gonna turn into
some real life some R and B reminded me.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It reminded me of g Z and Gucci, how like
they wanted the consumers to pick one.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I was a fan of both, and Gucci one to it.
I just fuck with both. But like you said, the
radio and the media ran with one, like the media
ram which one are you?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And did that Did I put a strain on you
on Wingos relationship? Absolutely not, Okay, no, absolutely not, because
the twins from Jagged is they from the east Side.
From the east Side, you and Wingo from the South Side, huh,
and other members of One twelve. We're part of town,
they are.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
We are from the Cleveland Avenue or South Side, Yeah
we are.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
We grew up in that area.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
But man, it was It's just one of those things
where I'm first and foremost I'm a music lover.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Period. When I'm just by myself, man, I'm rocking jagged. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Like some of my favorite R and B songs are
songs of theirs. I love Drew Hill, I love Black Street,
I love Next. I never looked at it as competition
because they were great for what they did and they
are not worth They are great for who they are
and what they do, and to be honest with you,
they corner a market in R and B from a
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group standpoint that we don't. We cover an area that
they don't and so does. So it was always room
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Did you did you think just vocalists for vocalists again,
Mino and Mano, that y'all all saying, now you know that,
I was like, Man, what the fuck I mean? Listen?
I also vocalists for vocalists. One twelve y'all, y'all, y'all
got what anybody guess anybody.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Anybody, No, No, Pounderful Pound, Mono and Mono, Yeah, vocals,
these can't see one twelve period. And I say that
with love because I love all of them, but pounderful
Pound vocally, Yeah, nobody ask.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You is there one song by any of those groups,
even Jagget is that you heard came out and was like, damn,
I wish we had.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That one absolutely.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
One of my favorite Jagget Edge records is gotta be
Oh my man, it's it's so funny. Sometimes Wingo and
I do shows together, like we'll we'll, we'll create an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
For he myself r L.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
One of the group members from other groups, will we'll
do some shows together, and what kind of interchange each
other songs?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Man?
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I loved One twelve and Jagged did a tour together.
It was called the one twelve Jagget Experience. Remember that,
and we changed on stage where we sang one of
these songs. They sang one of our songs. Man, I'm
a fan of rough ends like my day from back
in the.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Day, another military line of group.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
If there would be no one twelve, if it wasn't
for silk, like I give silk props because we sang
some silk songs when we auditioned for.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Puff get the Deal.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
To get the deal, we sang Jodasy boys and men,
all of them. So, man, I'm fans of all of
those guys.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So cute. With all that being said, man, let's jump
into it. Sure, one twelve man, there's always three sides
their restore. Absolutely, you want to say, what the fuck
going on? Man? Why y'all can't? What's up? Man? We
just said that, y'all went out one twelve jagget edge
of tour, y'all interchanging song, Well we got it. What
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can we do to get that back? Popping? Man? Because
y'all from the media, you hear it seems like the
beef is like I ain't gonna say irreparable, but it's
it's deep. It's very deep. I will I will say that.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
However, it's not deep enough that it still can't be healed.
If I got a deep gash in my arm, it
can still be here. It still may leave a scar there,
but I can still eventually have full mobility and functionality
of that particular limb. However, with the one twelve situation,
there are some some some some deep concerns. Uh, And
(18:31):
I think, honestly, man, the the biggest thing would would
be just getting us in a room and so the
powers that be, the powers that have the power to
influence group members. I would just encourage you all. I'm
and I'm looking in the camera. I would say to everybody,
if you are connected to any member of the group,
have a conversation about us getting together and sitting down,
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because anything can be talked through, especially as men. Yeah,
we can fight, crawl, all cry and all of that.
The important thing is just getting out what needs to
get out. Eventually it'll land where it needs to land.
And I believe until we're until we the four of
us are able to do that, it'll allow the media
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because even the promoters play a part of it too.
So the promoters are still hiring the version of one
twelve that's out there.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So that makes them.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
How many versions is going out? It's just one and
you're not in that version. No, I'm not in that version.
The version that's out now is just Mike and Slam.
And to be honest with you, I don't really fault
them for that either, because they had to do what
they had to do. The first you know one of
the greatest laws is the law of preservation. So I
got to protect myself at all costs.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
From a legal standpoint. I mean, I don't know how
it works because I know the temptations at one point,
I know that's a lot older. But they even when
they do their reviews up until recently, it'll be an
old member from the original group and another How does
that work? Not I'm really not interested in that. Man.
You know I've done a lot. You don't want to
go out with your own version one twelve.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Now, I've done a lot of work, man, with just
building the Q Parker brand, and so I can. I
can go and just stand alone as Q Parker. Now
people will understand that whenever they do book a Q Parker,
I can't help but also give you parts of my
history too, which is one twelve, and so I can.
I can still do all this, all of that too.
But ultimately I do wish, and I'm intentional about my words.
(20:25):
I do wish for a reconcile.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I do hope because I saw you on i G
not long ago, and you I think it was after
somebody passed past. You were sincere by that one absolute
there was no cap shiited one. No, you know you
was like really you was like, hey, man, let's let's
get this ship right man to my members and there and.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I'm gonna say I'm yeah, I'm gonna stay it on
your podcast too, say man, call me, call me, Slim
might call me.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Y'all hear this man, this man, let's get one man,
come on one twelve. Let's let's whatever we got. What
was the original is it? It's usually two things, Yeah,
pus seal money man the ladder. Okay, yeah, the latter
it was. It was it was. It was the rumors
were that that somebody was stealing money from other members.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Like how a lot of financial discrepancies, I'll just put
it there.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But with accountants, attorneys, people, managers, people.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
That were involved in the control of the dispersing of
the money.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It was just some some lack of integrity there. Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
And because legally I can't necessarily name because we are
in illegal litigation currently, but I would just say that
the integrity in the financial aspects of it, which is
what caused me to step aside, because I can't work
with anybody man when I can't see and trust. You know,
we were all I had working.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Hard, so you try picking up the phone call them
dudes like, man, let's just nobody else. Let's go sit down. Yeah,
I take Slim, Mike, Mike nothing, no crawl back, no, no.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
So again every time I every opportunity I have, I
will say to them, Mike, Slim, the people that's in
charge of how they move promoters out here. Man, if
y'all really want one twelve to reconcile, push the buttons
to get those guys to set up as we can
(22:27):
get this done.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So with the versus, was there an option for you
to join or where you guys kind of separated at
that point.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
We were already kind of The separation happened at the
conclusion of the one twelve Jacket Edge Experience tour, which
was twenty eighteen. So it's been five years since I
and Deran has been.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And y'all ain't bumping into each other out in about
in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Nothing that's weird, nah, because I do a lot of
moving around and I've never nah, I've yet to.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
What that's gonna be. Like, y'all you bumped into them,
like you said you said earlier, are being the union
about to be out here?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Swinging on them. I'm too smooth for any of that.
We're too smooth for any of that. But it would
definitely be hey, and and to be honest, let me
just be honest first and foremost. They my brothers. I
got nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I love literally.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I love Michael Keith, I love you, Bro, Marvin Slim Skendrick,
I love you man. So if I was to see
them out, it would be all love to understand that
some years man, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
All is going over some bread. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Accusations, yeah yeah, yeah, And if it wasn't true, let's
just sit down and come to that it's not true
or it's not accurate. But don't but don't just dismiss
when I bring to the table. Hey, I think something
is a little left me mentioning it is worth us
(23:53):
at least having a conversation, having some dialogue because I
think and I wasn't granted that, which is why I.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And being optimistic like him.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
You look at like what Birdman situation with Wayne bg Juvie.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
They had those discriptions.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
He too and had a conversation and now they're you know,
they still working together business. You know, like you said,
it's it's not you may forgive, but the wound is
still there. But I think moving forward for the culture
and definitely for the city of Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Man, definitely for the city. It's needed, man, it's needed.
It's time. It's been long enough.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, and there's still some chapters of the one twelfth
story that still need to be told, and it can
only happen with all four original members.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah. Yeah, speaking of chapter, let's talk about the chapter.
Let's go back to the nineties when a lot of
this bullshit was going on between Death Row And and
band Boy Man. Man, what was that The word was
y'all got pressed a couple of times going out to
l A rn B group. Yeah, but when you man,
you on the label bad Boy, you'renaet. Yeah, personator, they
(24:58):
don't care if you were an assistant of publicist, they
pressing you.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
There were many times when we landed in l A.
We had to check in and I just put it
that way. Yeah, we had we had to check in, man,
we had extra security. So here's here's the story. So,
and y'all know this our first single, only you right
(25:21):
shout out to No, No, Not toys, b I.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
G rest in peace, Big Man. Christopher Wallace goalie, absolutely right,
come right, new face to hip hop horder right here.
You see that he bring it, He bring Q, he
brings show that hold that up.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You said that's your first thing.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Look look how y'all y'all look on that. Y'allow likes
something in that box. Some in that box showing what
that was. I cut bad boy.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
The man Look at that Jay he like about ten
years old.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Legutive just finished doing my homework.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Dang, just finish homework.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
But yeah, man, so our first single, only You, and
we're starting a promo tour and the West Coast jumps
on the record.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So y'all had to go out there.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
We had no choice, Jerry, because as you know, as
y'all know, if we don't go where they're giving us love,
we run the risk of losing and a major a
major region like the West Coast, or if big population
influenced other regions, and so if the beatst planet, then
fifteen other stations gonna play it. Just so puff Puff
(26:53):
put out a label wide mandate that no artists could
go to the West Coast, and so we were in
like between the rock and a hard place, because if
we don't go and chase our record, that maybe on
the shot that might be our only shot man, And
so we we all got together, all of them. They
(27:15):
were showing us so much love, and so we decided
to go and support our record and chase our record.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I'm glad that we did, but I can't I can.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I can honestly tell you, man, that there was some
some scary moments of us going out there, police escorts
everywhere we go. If somebody even mentioned your sugar Nighter
is in the building, y'all, we shouldn't be oh me,
me me this move.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
We should should sugar. So during them years, it was
a lot of pressing. Man, sure it was. It was.
It was. And we're only eighteen, nineteen years old. Yeah,
y'all like damn the South like yeah, we're like hey, man, ship,
we were just trying to make some money our record.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I remember this one time we were in the mall
and on the West coast. I think we were like
in Seattle, Washington, Yeah, Tacoma, and our thing was we'd
land into the into the market, check into the hotel,
go to the mall, buy some whatever, sneakers or whatever,
and try to meet some girls to invite them to
(28:24):
the show that night. With flyers or whatever like that
was our normal every time we go in the city.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
This is this time. We go to the.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Mall and a couple of girls start following us. That's
not normal. So one turns into three, turns into ten thirty.
Next thing you know, we got like twenty thirty girls
or something.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Just like shit, just shine, we go here we go.
So we do. But then some dudes started joining the group.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Man, it got to the point where it was about
one hundred people just in our little train, and they
cornered us man in the food court. And this is
when I realized just how the media, how stuff just spread.
You ever seen man like anger in the eyes of
somebody like.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And it's a scary feeling too, Oh.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
My god, to see anger in someone's eyes, like there's
nothing they won't do if they can only get their
hands on you. I just remember being pent up in
the food court. They had the mall security to barricade
us in. And I remember nineteen and twenty year olds
as close as I am to you, like west Side,
(29:40):
and I mean, like to just see it in their eyes.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like they they're really killed. All because of the affiliation.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
East West Label Association.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Was y'all at the party when I'm Big got killed
that night in La.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
So we were not at the party, but we If
you go back and look at the Soul Train Awards,
which was the night of we had a show in
North Carolina the next day, and so immediately after we
did the Soul Train we got on the Red Eye
to fly back to ours. But I'll never forget. We
(30:18):
had to present for a category. It was one twelve.
It was Big and Keith Sweat, and prior to going
from commercial break, Big just kept saying, some don't feel right, Man,
I gotta get the hell out of here. We go
out to do the presentation and he's kind of molding
(30:42):
with his teeth, like, man, I gotta get the fuck
out of here, Like I gotta get.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Out of head d We leave land in North Carolina
and get the news and get the news. Yep, I
still have to do the show. Still had to do
the show. Yeah. Storytime with the Legendary Jerry's hosted by me,
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